Neutral Spike Re: [EVGRAY] Vehicle audio - Wikipedia

Norm,
Thanks for sharing the pdf on The Tesla Switch. Very interesting.

George

    On Tuesday, 27 November 2018, 3:35:47 am AEDT, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:  
 
     
 

Back in 1984, talked to John and ordered his famous Tesla Switch plans and built same!  See: attached
 
 On 11/26/2018 8:32 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
 
 
https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/articles/12-million-volts   There was a very sad conclusion to all of Golka's research for I had to scrap down all of this Leadville Project which by many weird trun of events wound up on my Research farm in two 50 ft. semi trailers.
 
 On 11/26/2018 7:39 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
 
 
George, Interesting story about mercury as experienced by my friend Nick Holden, Waco,TX, who was manufacturing the C-60 carbon and higher Fullerines. See:  
 
 https://www.chron.com/local/history/medical-science/article/Discovery-of-Buckyballs-a-Nobel-effort-by-7939221.php

Nick developed a close relationship with Prof. Smalley (RIP) and went into the C-60 production. I built a RF plasma system using a 5KW RF power supply which I got from Texas Instruemnts salvage sales. http://www.comdel.com/high-frequency-rf-power-supplies    Made the higher fullerines and Bucky fibers.   Nick went on an expedition down into the South West New Mexico to the old abandoned mercury mines, Mercury, NM, which produced mercury needed for the WWII was effort. A full day trek via 4 wheelers with a Mexican guide brought them to an old mine. When walking inside of mine, Nick asked the Mexican why it felt like they were walking on a water bed??  The Mexican said , brush the dust off and see that you are walking on a pool of mercury.  At the time mercury was selling for $26/# so it would have taken a big 4 wheel drive vehicle to go out and retrieve enough mercury to make it worth while to explore. Lots of mercury that the Environmental people frown on.


 On 11/26/2018 6:49 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
  
 
Yep!  George, I had boxes of plunge mercury switches and ignatrons that no one wanted because of the pools of mercury inside. I parted out and saved several hundred pounds of mercury which I gave to Bert and Phil so they could build their anti-gravity vehicle. Lol
 
 On 11/25/2018 9:05 PM, george gray [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
     Norm, 
  Yes mate, I did a lot of stripping out of stuff in industrial setups and I kept all the mercury.  I have a good sized bottle of it but have not used it yet after 53 years of it sitting in a safe place in my workshop. But I  always said to myself that I would find a use for that in the future. Just being a hoarder I guess.
  
  George 
  
      On Monday, 26 November 2018, 3:47:29 am AEDT, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:  
  
          
 
 
In case you were wondering where this is going, It is  very simple.  In July 1946, I was just in Grammar School and remember sitting in my Dads car  and listening to the Operations Crossroads atom bomb  being dropped from a B-29 onto Bikini Atoll . see   
 
 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_testing_at_Bikini_Atoll 
 The radio was a Blaupunkt AS 5 medium wave and longwave radio which allow us to listen to a live broadcast of test via  short wave from the Pacific.  Sparked my interest in how these radios worked, thus I tore into  one to find the vibrator tube which made the HVDC plate voltage needed in the vacuum  tube receiver.  This was the spark that had me enroll into DeVry Electronics (1953) and  join the Ham Club in High School.
 https://youtu.be/cwYH98WseG4     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp6PkRTmb8U&feature=youtu.be   Now I know how buzzers worked along with the Model T ignition coil. I had though about using this antiquated technology to make a bullet proof switch to enable a sustained pulse train to drive the ferroresonance phenomenon.  You know how a tinkerers mind works.    Hay, look, they are still available.  https://www.tubesandmore.com/products/vibrator-6-volt-4-pin-negative-ground
 
  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignitron  Someone asked me about switching the 5 HP Neutral Spike experiment with mercury wetted switches.  I had plenty of them for we were wrecking down a lot of industrial equipment. 
  
  Just some thought food.  Lol   Norm
  
   On 11/25/2018 6:44 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_audio 
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Norm,
That would have been a weird feeling walking on a pool of mercury. I never imagined that could happen as I had not gone into the how and what about how it was mined. Anyway I'm keeping my bottle of the stuff even though they are phasing out mercury mining.
George

    On Tuesday, 27 November 2018, 3:52:13 am AEDT, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:  
 
     
 

George, Interesting story about mercury as experienced by my friend Nick Holden, Waco,TX, who was manufacturing the C-60 carbon and higher Fullerines. See:  
 
 https://www.chron.com/local/history/medical-science/article/Discovery-of-Buckyballs-a-Nobel-effort-by-7939221.php

Nick developed a close relationship with Prof. Smalley (RIP) and went into the C-60 production. I built a RF plasma system using a 5KW RF power supply which I got from Texas Instruemnts salvage sales. http://www.comdel.com/high-frequency-rf-power-supplies    Made the higher fullerines and Bucky fibers.   Nick went on an expedition down into the South West New Mexico to the old abandoned mercury mines, Mercury, NM, which produced mercury needed for the WWII was effort. A full day trek via 4 wheelers with a Mexican guide brought them to an old mine. When walking inside of mine, Nick asked the Mexican why it felt like they were walking on a water bed??  The Mexican said , brush the dust off and see that you are walking on a pool of mercury.  At the time mercury was selling for $26/# so it would have taken a big 4 wheel drive vehicle to go out and retrieve enough mercury to make it worth while to explore. Lots of mercury that the Environmental people frown on.


 On 11/26/2018 6:49 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
  
 
Yep!  George, I had boxes of plunge mercury switches and ignatrons that no one wanted because of the pools of mercury inside. I parted out and saved several hundred pounds of mercury which I gave to Bert and Phil so they could build their anti-gravity vehicle. Lol
 
 On 11/25/2018 9:05 PM, george gray [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
     Norm, 
  Yes mate, I did a lot of stripping out of stuff in industrial setups and I kept all the mercury.  I have a good sized bottle of it but have not used it yet after 53 years of it sitting in a safe place in my workshop. But I always said to myself that I would find a use for that in the future. Just being a hoarder I guess.
  
  George 
  
      On Monday, 26 November 2018, 3:47:29 am AEDT, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:  
  
          
 
 
In case you were wondering where this is going, It is  very simple.  In July 1946, I was just in Grammar School and remember sitting in my Dads car and  listening to the Operations Crossroads atom bomb  being dropped from a B-29 onto Bikini Atoll . see   
 
 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_testing_at_Bikini_Atoll 
 The radio was a Blaupunkt AS 5 medium wave and longwave radio which allow us to listen to a live broadcast of test via short wave from the Pacific.  Sparked my interest in how these radios worked, thus I tore into one to find the vibrator tube which made  the HVDC plate voltage needed in the vacuum tube receiver.  This was the spark that had me enroll into DeVry Electronics (1953) and join the Ham Club  in High School.
 https://youtu.be/cwYH98WseG4     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp6PkRTmb8U&feature=youtu.be   Now I know how buzzers worked along with the Model T ignition coil. I had though about using this antiquated technology to make a bullet proof switch to enable a sustained pulse train to drive the ferroresonance phenomenon.  You know how a tinkerers mind works.    Hay, look, they are still available.  https://www.tubesandmore.com/products/vibrator-6-volt-4-pin-negative-ground
 
  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignitron  Someone asked me about switching the 5 HP Neutral Spike experiment with mercury wetted switches.  I had plenty of them for we were wrecking down a lot of industrial equipment. 
  
  Just some thought food.  Lol   Norm
  
   On 11/25/2018 6:44 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_audio 
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PleVery well said!Ivor Catt indeed, use you observations, and drag the theorists along kicking and screaming just for the ride.Cheers Warren

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  On Tue, 27 Nov 2018 at 8:47 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
Hi Norman,

Sweet refers to Ivor Catt's theory instead of the conventional theory. Here is a searchable version of the 'Nothing is Something' document: http://jnaudin.free.fr/vta/.

Electromagnetism I by Ivor Catt: http://www.ivorcatt.com/em.htm. There's no need for displacement current to explain electromagnetism. Just treat capacitors as transmission lines. Floyd sweet explains that every signal takes time to move between two separate points which prevents the instant propagation of displacement current. Ivor Catt describes capacitors as transmission lines (http://www.ivorcatt.org/icrwiworld78dec1.htm). The signal enters the capacitor foils at a single point (or at two points) and must travel to the edges of the foils making capacitors rolled up or stacked transmission lines with the laws governing transmission lines. Catt is or was controversial when introducing a third theory of transmission lines. The theory describing what happens the most accurate way must be the best one no matter if the old theoreticians like Newton Maxwell or Einstein are treated like gods in scientific circles. Engineers may have personal experience of the phenomena happening when designing devices and thus use whatever theory that can explain the observations no matter what is written in old books. I think this is also why Tesla laughed at the theoreticians because he had his own experiences to draw from while the theoreticians made thought experiments that didn't fit the actual observations. We must learn and get wiser if we want to progress and this even if having to change or discard established theory. This is what the scientific method is about. Don't be religious about scientific theories (or even about gods). Go for truth.

Regards
Ole


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See attachments.   Ole, Sweet & Bearden both admitted thatthey did not know how to capture and utilize the strange form ofenergy being produced.

On 11/27/2018 7:27 AM,onielsen@... [EVGRAY] wrote:


 
Hi Norman,

I like that. Go for how nature works even if notconventional. The natural laws written in books are madeby humans. Science is about explaining them the right wayeven though some scientists don't do it that way unlessspecific paid to do it the intended way. According totransmission line theory the energy is running in thespace between the wires. At least this holds for goodconductors. Even good metallic conductors like silver haveresistance which dissipates the energy. Superconductorsdon't have this problem but still have some max levelwhere they can guide the energy. Where the fields meet thesurface of the conductor the fields are mirrored. Thus thesurface of the conductor has to be a perfect mirror of thefields to be superconductive.

T.J.J. See formulated it something like the forces atextremely small distances are extremely great. Or forfields at extremely thin wires the field intensity isextremely high which can ionize the air or dielectric tobe able to move the energy. Plasma is also a very goodconductor that can have even negative resistancecharacteristics from impact ionization. Thus it takes outenergy from the molecules that are hit by chargedparticles making even more ions and charged particles.

I would like to see a replication of Floyd Sweets frostedwires. He knew about transmission line theory according tohis document 'Nothing is Something' where he refers toIvor Catt and W.J. Hooper. His device was also claimed topossess antigravity just like the device of AlexyChekurov. A valid theory must be able to explain suchphenomena.

Regards
Ole



---In [email protected], <nwootan@...> wrote :

Ole, your quote,( a verypenetrating magnetic field) is precisely what 
is described as the Magneto-Electric effect which istotally inverse to 
our conventional Electro-magnetic theory and practice.All of the 
conventional electric theory goes out the window whendealing with a 
totally inverted Magneto-Electric event.  It all fitswith our often 
observed anomalies such as tremendous currents andvoltages carried over 
very small conductors doing fantastic damage in theevent.  This is not 
your Dads Oldsmobile.


 On 11/27/2018 4:15 AM,Norman Wootan nwootan@...[EVGRAY] wrote:
> a very penetrating magnetic field. 


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Warren,
Check out this video on the safety of cell phones.George

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    On Wednesday, 28 November 2018, 2:59:33 am AEDT, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:  
 
     

OleYou have made a very astute observation regarding the health concerns. Can you imagine the industry push back from cell phones? If you think Donny Trump spins, wait until they haul out their big guns in the public
relations departments, of cell phone companies.If the public embraces the health risk, we will be back to using Napoleon's semaphore towers.I hope they are not so bad, these cell phones, since my computer is still  not unpacked, and set up since moving. I have been just using this damn cell phone.Cheers Warren
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  On Tue, 27 Nov 2018 at 8:26 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
Hi Norman,

I would prefer something that's not as harmful as those high power energy discharges. I remember Wolfgang Volkroot warning about microwaves and high energy discharges. Volkroot was chief of a Siemens high energy test lab and saw his coworkers doing the high energy discharges become sick when working with those EM radiating events for years. He also warned about microwaves that made the forests between the then East and West Germany die in straight lines where there were microwave links and powerful radars pointing to the east and west blocks. His opinion back then was that this was getting solved by using fiber optic links instead of microwaves. He should have known the coming revolution in mobile phones which now have microwave transmitters almost everywhere. It was said that enough data to know if mobile phones are harmful would be gathered in 20 years. Haven't we reached that time span now and what is the conclusion? If they're harmful will they be made illegal or is it up to the users to decide for themselves.

Conclusion is that I would prefer to avoid those EMP events and use something less harmful. The EMPs may harm other things then sensitive electronics. Humans don't have senses to fell electromagnetic radiations except for the one octave optical range and perhaps one or two octaves of of infrared radiation. Thus we can't feel the radiation if harmful or not.

Regards
Ole



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PLEASE, all, we are trying to enhance,purposely provoke andattempt to capture the event, NOT mitigate or prevent it fromhappening.   In all of the studies of the Ferroresonantphenomenon, all effort is to prevent, mitigate the effects.  Whydo you insist on using solid state devices or circuits which needprotection.  Just like the Russians who still use mini vacuumtubes in critical EMP vulnerable aviation equipment, I would fallback to using the trusted Vacuum Thyratron https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thyratron https://dbtubes.com/en/thyratron-vacuum-tube/     This wholeNeutral Spike (EMP event) study is to prove that an extra ordinaryform of energy is manifest at the point of magnetic fluxannihilation (In the plasma of the arc).  It is called thereconnect phase. The preponderance of the knowledge of thissubject has been the study of the magnetic ropes (plasma) of thesun and the EMP burst from the annihilation/reconnect phenomenon.The old saying, As above so below certainly applies here for theseplasma conditions have been accomplished in research labs to proveout exactly what happens.  Run with what we have learned byapplying the info in your device design and methodology.   Asstrong as a blacksmith anvil.

On 11/26/2018 7:21 PM,onielsen@... [EVGRAY] wrote:


 
Hi Mick,

TVS diodes are rated for some max power dissipation andperhaps some max energy too (fusing energy I^2t). Ifapplying more energy than the max i^2t rating it melts. Asbeing fast Zener diodes they clamp the voltage at somelevel while having current through them at the same timewhich means power dissipation in them. If reading EMC(EMI) theory several stages are needed to protect forpowerful EMP transients. The first step is a spark gap.The spark gap is followed by a varistor that is followedby a TVS or Zener diode. The spark gap breaks down to lowimpedance which reflects or dissipates much of the energyof the signal. The varistor is a solid state spark in somemetal grains and has the same purpose as the spark gap.the TVS or Zener diode stage removes the rest of theenergy to protect the sensitive electronics. It isessential to know how the electromagnetic radiation istransferred between the different stages to prevent itfrom reaching the sensitive electronics. Every currentloop transmits the energy as a very penetrating magneticfield. That magnetic energy has to be dissipated orreflected which can be done with electrical conductivematerials like iron or aluminum. The field induces currentin the screening material which requires only connectingthe circuit inside the screen to a single point. Audioguys probably have experienced this when buildingamplifiers.

A thyristor (SCR) crowbar is also a good protection. Itshorts the pulse just like a spark gap and then blows afuse to disconnect the circuit to be protected..

Regards
Ole



---In [email protected], <mkjekyll@...> wrote :


Hi Norm, 


This paper is one of your excellent references.


I would like to replicate the events through theplasma that Iachieved as it creates a huge magnetic pulse that canbe harvestedbut as you say gets to kill the solid state stuff asif the TVSdiodes were not even there. At least the ferroresonantamplification without the plasma gap just cooks theTVS diodeslike popcorn even though rated at 1000 amps with onlyabout 2 amp23v input, but spared the rest, I guess it chose atthe diodes tomanifest.  Oh yeah the ferrotranny was connected with30 guagewire wrap wire when the 1000 amps TVS diodes explodedfrom 46w andwire was fine. Have not built the tube circuits yetjust workingon the solid state grid control circuits first thenplan todecouple with something similar to cascode sohopefully thesuperfast gate driver does not cook.  


Not sure if Ole's snubber network would stop theevent but havethe feeling so since caps will suppress the rise timeand killringing, but have not tried so can't say.  Seems to methe eventis created right at the switch and the rise in voltageis like theinertia x acceleration before the end of a whip cracksandnecessary.  





"Why does death need time?  Death needs time for whatit kills togrow in."




On11/26/2018 4:44 AM, Norman Wootannwootan@... [EVGRAY]wrote:


 
Precisely, Bob Paddock.  Please read thisdocument tounderstand that a local plasma event mustoccur (Arc inthe gap) for the manifestation of this energy.Pleaseread:  http://www-brs.ub.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/netahtml/HSS/Diss/TassiEmanuele/diss.pdf

On11/25/2018 7:36 PM, BobPaddock bob.paddock@...[EVGRAY] wrote:

 
> Why not replace the relay with aswitchingtransistor. Mechanical switches wear fastcompared toa semiconductor switch.

What if the Arc/Spark is part of theactual process ingetting more energy?

Every O/U thing I've ever though workedusually had aPlasm or Arc/Spark.
Usually not intentionally and the designeralwayswanted to get rid of it.

Do you remember in High School Chemistry class when you applied heat to 
mercuric oxide in a closed retort the condensate was liquid mercury.  I 
guess the low level heat in a boarded up mercury mine in the NM desert 
was enough to make the mercury pools over many years.  You can Google 
the location of the old mines down in NM. Actually there are old mines 
in many states with California being the most populated. see: 
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/32900375/ns/us_news-environment/t/mercury-still-leaking-closed-calif-mine-sites/#.W_5l-eJRc2w

On 11/27/2018 6:29 PM, george gray [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
> Norm,
>
> That would have been a weird feeling walking on a pool of mercury. I 
> never imagined that could happen as I had not gone into the how and 
> what about how it was mined. Anyway I'm keeping my bottle of the stuff 
> even though they are phasing out mercury mining.
>
> George
>
> On Tuesday, 27 November 2018, 3:52:13 am AEDT, Norman Wootan 
> [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> George, Interesting story about mercury as experienced by my friend 
> Nick Holden, Waco,TX, who was manufacturing the C-60 carbon and higher 
> Fullerines. See:
>
> https://www.chron.com/local/history/medical-science/article/Discovery-of-Buckyballs-a-Nobel-effort-by-7939221.php
>
> Nick developed a close relationship with Prof. Smalley (RIP) and went into the C-60 production. I built a RF plasma system using a 5KW RF power supply which I got from Texas Instruemnts salvage sales.http://www.comdel.com/high-frequency-rf-power-supplies     Made the higher fullerines and Bucky fibers.   Nick went on an expedition down into the South West New Mexico to the old abandoned mercury mines, Mercury, NM, which produced mercury needed for the WWII was effort. A full day trek via 4 wheelers with a Mexican guide brought them to an old mine. When walking inside of mine, Nick asked the Mexican why it felt like they were walking on a water bed??  The Mexican said , brush the dust off and see that you are walking on a pool of mercury.  At the time mercury was selling for $26/# so it would have taken a big 4 wheel drive vehicle to go out and retrieve enough mercury to make it worth while to explore. Lots of mercury that the Environmental people frown on.
>
>
> On 11/26/2018 6:49 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>
>> Yep!  George, I had boxes of plunge mercury switches and ignatrons 
>> that no one wanted because of the pools of mercury inside. I parted 
>> out and saved several hundred pounds of mercury which I gave to Bert 
>> and Phil so they could build their anti-gravity vehicle. Lol
>>
>> On 11/25/2018 9:05 PM, george gray [email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>> Norm,
>>>
>>> Yes mate, I did a lot of stripping out of stuff in industrial setups 
>>> and I kept all the mercury.  I have a good sized bottle of it but 
>>> have not used it yet after 53 years of it sitting in a safe place in 
>>> my workshop. But I always said to myself that I would find a use for 
>>> that in the future. Just being a hoarder I guess.
>>>
>>> George
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, 26 November 2018, 3:47:29 am AEDT, Norman Wootan 
>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] 
>>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> In case you were wondering where this is going, It is  very simple. 
>>> In July 1946, I was just in Grammar School and remember sitting in 
>>> my Dads car and listening to the Operations Crossroads atom bomb  
>>> being dropped from a B-29 onto Bikini Atoll . see
>>>
>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_testing_at_Bikini_Atoll
>>>
>>> The radio was a Blaupunkt 
>>> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blaupunkt> AS 5 medium wave 
>>> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medium_wave> and longwave 
>>> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longwave> radio which allow us to 
>>> listen to a live broadcast of test via short wave from the Pacific.  
>>> Sparked my interest in how these radios worked, thus I tore into one 
>>> to find the vibrator tube which made the HVDC plate voltage needed 
>>> in the vacuum tube receiver.  This was the spark that had me enroll 
>>> into DeVry Electronics (1953) and join the Ham Club in High School.
>>>
>>> https://youtu.be/cwYH98WseG4      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp6PkRTmb8U&feature=youtu.be    Now I know how buzzers worked along with the Model T ignition coil. I had though about using this antiquated technology to make a bullet proof switch to enable a sustained pulse train to drive the ferroresonance phenomenon.  You know how a tinkerers mind works.    Hay, look, they are still available.https://www.tubesandmore.com/products/vibrator-6-volt-4-pin-negative-ground
>>>
>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignitron Someone asked me about 
>>> switching the 5 HP Neutral Spike experiment with mercury wetted 
>>> switches. I had plenty of them for we were wrecking down a lot of 
>>> industrial equipment.
>>>
>>> Just some thought food.  Lol   Norm
>>>
>>> On 11/25/2018 6:44 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_audio
>>>>
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http://explore.museumca.org/creeks/z-mercurymines.html

On 11/28/2018 4:01 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>
> Do you remember in High School Chemistry class when you applied heat 
> to mercuric oxide in a closed retort the condensate was liquid 
> mercury.  I guess the low level heat in a boarded up mercury mine in 
> the NM desert was enough to make the mercury pools over many years.  
> You can Google the location of the old mines down in NM. Actually 
> there are old mines in many states with California being the most 
> populated. see: 
> http://www.nbcnews.com/id/32900375/ns/us_news-environment/t/mercury-still-leaking-closed-calif-mine-sites/#.W_5l-eJRc2w
>
> On 11/27/2018 6:29 PM, george gray [email protected] [EVGRAY] 
> wrote:
>> Norm,
>>
>> That would have been a weird feeling walking on a pool of mercury. I 
>> never imagined that could happen as I had not gone into the how and 
>> what about how it was mined. Anyway I'm keeping my bottle of the 
>> stuff even though they are phasing out mercury mining.
>>
>> George
>>
>> On Tuesday, 27 November 2018, 3:52:13 am AEDT, Norman Wootan 
>> [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> George, Interesting story about mercury as experienced by my friend 
>> Nick Holden, Waco,TX, who was manufacturing the C-60 carbon and 
>> higher Fullerines. See:
>>
>> https://www.chron.com/local/history/medical-science/article/Discovery-of-Buckyballs-a-Nobel-effort-by-7939221.php
>>
>> Nick developed a close relationship with Prof. Smalley (RIP) and went into the C-60 production. I built a RF plasma system using a 5KW RF power supply which I got from Texas Instruemnts salvage sales.http://www.comdel.com/high-frequency-rf-power-supplies     Made the higher fullerines and Bucky fibers.   Nick went on an expedition down into the South West New Mexico to the old abandoned mercury mines, Mercury, NM, which produced mercury needed for the WWII was effort. A full day trek via 4 wheelers with a Mexican guide brought them to an old mine. When walking inside of mine, Nick asked the Mexican why it felt like they were walking on a water bed??  The Mexican said , brush the dust off and see that you are walking on a pool of mercury.  At the time mercury was selling for $26/# so it would have taken a big 4 wheel drive vehicle to go out and retrieve enough mercury to make it worth while to explore. Lots of mercury that the Environmental people frown on.
>>
>>
>> On 11/26/2018 6:49 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>
>>> Yep!  George, I had boxes of plunge mercury switches and ignatrons 
>>> that no one wanted because of the pools of mercury inside. I parted 
>>> out and saved several hundred pounds of mercury which I gave to Bert 
>>> and Phil so they could build their anti-gravity vehicle. Lol
>>>
>>> On 11/25/2018 9:05 PM, george gray [email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>> Norm,
>>>>
>>>> Yes mate, I did a lot of stripping out of stuff in industrial 
>>>> setups and I kept all the mercury.  I have a good sized bottle of 
>>>> it but have not used it yet after 53 years of it sitting in a safe 
>>>> place in my workshop. But I always said to myself that I would find 
>>>> a use for that in the future. Just being a hoarder I guess.
>>>>
>>>> George
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, 26 November 2018, 3:47:29 am AEDT, Norman Wootan 
>>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] 
>>>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In case you were wondering where this is going, It is very simple.  
>>>> In July 1946, I was just in Grammar School and remember sitting in 
>>>> my Dads car and listening to the Operations Crossroads atom bomb  
>>>> being dropped from a B-29 onto Bikini Atoll . see
>>>>
>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_testing_at_Bikini_Atoll
>>>>
>>>> The radio was a Blaupunkt 
>>>> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blaupunkt> AS 5 medium wave 
>>>> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medium_wave> and longwave 
>>>> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longwave> radio which allow us to 
>>>> listen to a live broadcast of test via short wave from the Pacific. 
>>>> Sparked my interest in how these radios worked, thus I tore into 
>>>> one to find the vibrator tube which made the HVDC plate voltage 
>>>> needed in the vacuum tube receiver. This was the spark that had me 
>>>> enroll into DeVry Electronics (1953) and join the Ham Club in High 
>>>> School.
>>>>
>>>> https://youtu.be/cwYH98WseG4      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp6PkRTmb8U&feature=youtu.be    Now I know how buzzers worked along with the Model T ignition coil. I had though about using this antiquated technology to make a bullet proof switch to enable a sustained pulse train to drive the ferroresonance phenomenon.  You know how a tinkerers mind works.    Hay, look, they are still available.https://www.tubesandmore.com/products/vibrator-6-volt-4-pin-negative-ground
>>>>
>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignitron Someone asked me about 
>>>> switching the 5 HP Neutral Spike experiment with mercury wetted 
>>>> switches.  I had plenty of them for we were wrecking down a lot of 
>>>> industrial equipment.
>>>>
>>>> Just some thought food.  Lol Norm
>>>>
>>>> On 11/25/2018 6:44 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] 
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_audio
>>>>>
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>>

Ole, this is all so correct. I have lived and learned just enough to be 
dangerous.  Lol  When I first hand witness an anomalous event in 
electrical applications, my response is curiosity instead of writing it 
off as most folks do. A thought that has been popping up in my mind is 
the definition of reciprocal, 
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/reciprocal  where in conventional 
theory we have copper or other metals as conductors where as in the 
opposite (negative energy) the dielectric is the conductor and the 
metals become the dielectric.  Maybe we are looking in the wrong places 
for our solution.  Just a thought. Bearden told me once to think 
opposite.   BTW, Joel & I made a trip to Atlanta, GA in spring of 1995 
to demonstrate our MRA device to the Procurement Officer of IBM Corp. 
and two of his EE engineering. They were blown away with what they saw 
and we were told that IBM had a blank check for our technology if we 
could successfully get a Patent. Dr. Bass, Hughes Aircraft was our 
Patent Attorney.  On return trip back to Dallas we stopped at Tom 
Beardens place in Huntsville, AL and gave him a working MRA device at 
which time he totally explained his MEG device for which he was 
assembling a team to do the Patent.  Bearden fully explained all that 
Floyd Sweet had divulged regarding the Negative Energy and the 
incompatibility in our frame of reference. Thoughts?    Norm

On 11/27/2018 7:47 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Hi Norman,
>
> Sweet refers to Ivor Catt's theory instead of the conventional theory. 
> Here is a searchable version of the 'Nothing is Something' document: 
> http://jnaudin.free.fr/vta/.
>
> Electromagnetism I by Ivor Catt: http://www.ivorcatt.com/em.htm. 
> There's no need for displacement current to explain electromagnetism. 
> Just treat capacitors as transmission lines. Floyd sweet explains that 
> every signal takes time to move between two separate points which 
> prevents the instant propagation of displacement current. Ivor Catt 
> describes capacitors as transmission lines 
> (http://www.ivorcatt.org/icrwiworld78dec1.htm). The signal enters the 
> capacitor foils at a single point (or at two points) and must travel 
> to the edges of the foils making capacitors rolled up or stacked 
> transmission lines with the laws governing transmission lines. Catt is 
> or was controversial when introducing a third theory of transmission 
> lines. The theory describing what happens the most accurate way must 
> be the best one no matter if the old theoreticians like Newton Maxwell 
> or Einstein are treated like gods in scientific circles. Engineers may 
> have personal experience of the phenomena happening when designing 
> devices and thus use whatever theory that can explain the observations 
> no matter what is written in old books. I think this is also why Tesla 
> laughed at the theoreticians because he had his own experiences to 
> draw from while the theoreticians made thought experiments that didn't 
> fit the actual observations. We must learn and get wiser if we want to 
> progress and this even if having to change or discard established 
> theory. This is what the scientific method is about. Don't be 
> religious about scientific theories (or even about gods). Go for truth.
>
> Regards
> Ole
>
>
>
> ---In [email protected], <nwootan@...> wrote :
>
> See attachments.   Ole, Sweet & Bearden both admitted that they did 
> not know how to capture and utilize the strange form of energy being 
> produced.
>
> On 11/27/2018 7:27 AM, onielsen@... <mailto:onielsen@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
>>     Hi Norman,
>>
>>     I like that. Go for how nature works even if not conventional.
>>     The natural laws written in books are made by humans. Science is
>>     about explaining them the right way even though some scientists
>>     don't do it that way unless specific paid to do it the intended
>>     way. According to transmission line theory the energy is running
>>     in the space between the wires. At least this holds for good
>>     conductors. Even good metallic conductors like silver have
>>     resistance which dissipates the energy. Superconductors don't
>>     have this problem but still have some max level where they can
>>     guide the energy. Where the fields meet the surface of the
>>     conductor the fields are mirrored. Thus the surface of the
>>     conductor has to be a perfect mirror of the fields to be
>>     superconductive.
>>
>>     T.J.J. See formulated it something like the forces at extremely
>>     small distances are extremely great. Or for fields at extremely
>>     thin wires the field intensity is extremely high which can ionize
>>     the air or dielectric to be able to move the energy. Plasma is
>>     also a very good conductor that can have even negative resistance
>>     characteristics from impact ionization. Thus it takes out energy
>>     from the molecules that are hit by charged particles making even
>>     more ions and charged particles.
>>
>>     I would like to see a replication of Floyd Sweets frosted wires.
>>     He knew about transmission line theory according to his document
>>     'Nothing is Something' where he refers to Ivor Catt and W.J.
>>     Hooper. His device was also claimed to possess antigravity just
>>     like the device of Alexy Chekurov. A valid theory must be able to
>>     explain such phenomena.
>>
>>     Regards
>>     Ole
>>
>>
>>
>>     ---In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>,
>>     <nwootan@...> <mailto:nwootan@...> wrote :
>>
>>     Ole, your quote,( a very penetrating magnetic field) is precisely
>>     what
>>     is described as the Magneto-Electric effect which is totally
>>     inverse to
>>     our conventional Electro-magnetic theory and practice. All of the
>>     conventional electric theory goes out the window when dealing with a
>>     totally inverted Magneto-Electric event.  It all fits with our often
>>     observed anomalies such as tremendous currents and voltages
>>     carried over
>>     very small conductors doing fantastic damage in the event.  This
>>     is not
>>     your Dads Oldsmobile.
>>
>>         On 11/27/2018 4:15 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>         <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>         > a very penetrating magnetic field. 
>>
>

Hi Mick
Interesting description of Sweets magnets it reminds me of Bill Miller's description of his black sand cores; "random polarities" to the crystalline encased ferrite in the black sand he used
Kone

Yeeeeeaaaaaah.    I agree for I am serious about the conductive 
dielectric. Still studying the Felici Hydrogen dielectric Electrostatic 
Generator.   Amazing, for we have a lot to learn.

On 11/28/2018 10:06 AM, Warren Keillor [email protected] 
[EVGRAY] wrote:
>
>
> Norman
>
> Crossing the carpet in your bunny slippers, only to get the shock of 
> your life, touching the door knob?
> The dielectric, when not moisture sodden, and conductive, becomes 
> alive, as it dries, and rubs against other dielectrics.
> Lets start saving examples of the phenomenon, we observe.
> Cheers Warren
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>
>     On Wed, 28 Nov 2018 at 6:12 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]
>     <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>     Ole, this is all so correct. I have lived and learned just enough
>     to be dangerous. Lol  When I first hand witness an anomalous event
>     in electrical applications, my response is curiosity instead of
>     writing it off as most folks do. A thought that has been popping
>     up in my mind is the definition of reciprocal,
>     https://www.dictionary.com/browse/reciprocal where in conventional
>     theory we have copper or other metals as conductors where as in
>     the opposite (negative energy) the dielectric is the conductor and
>     the metals become the dielectric.  Maybe we are looking in the
>     wrong places for our solution.  Just a thought.   Bearden told me
>     once to think opposite.   BTW, Joel & I made a trip to Atlanta, GA
>     in spring of 1995 to demonstrate our MRA device to the Procurement
>     Officer of IBM Corp. and two of his EE engineering. They were
>     blown away with what they saw and we were told that IBM had a
>     blank check for our technology if we could successfully get a
>     Patent. Dr. Bass, Hughes Aircraft was our Patent Attorney.  On
>     return trip back to Dallas we stopped at Tom Beardens place in
>     Huntsville, AL and gave him a working MRA device at which time he
>     totally explained his MEG device for which he was assembling a
>     team to do the Patent.  Bearden fully explained all that Floyd
>     Sweet had divulged regarding the Negative Energy and the
>     incompatibility in our frame of reference. Thoughts?    Norm
>
>     On 11/27/2018 7:47 PM, [email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>>     Hi Norman,
>>
>>     Sweet refers to Ivor Catt's theory instead of the conventional
>>     theory. Here is a searchable version of the 'Nothing is
>>     Something' document: http://jnaudin.free.fr/vta/.
>>
>>     Electromagnetism I by Ivor Catt: http://www.ivorcatt.com/em.htm.
>>     There's no need for displacement current to explain
>>     electromagnetism. Just treat capacitors as transmission lines.
>>     Floyd sweet explains that every signal takes time to move between
>>     two separate points which prevents the instant propagation of
>>     displacement current. Ivor Catt describes capacitors as
>>     transmission lines
>>     (http://www.ivorcatt.org/icrwiworld78dec1.htm). The signal enters
>>     the capacitor foils at a single point (or at two points) and must
>>     travel to the edges of the foils making capacitors rolled up or
>>     stacked transmission lines with the laws governing transmission
>>     lines. Catt is or was controversial when introducing a third
>>     theory of transmission lines. The theory describing what happens
>>     the most accurate way must be the best one no matter if the old
>>     theoreticians like Newton Maxwell or Einstein are treated like
>>     gods in scientific circles. Engineers may have personal
>>     experience of the phenomena happening when designing devices and
>>     thus use whatever theory that can explain the observations no
>>     matter what is written in old books. I think this is also why
>>     Tesla laughed at the theoreticians because he had his own
>>     experiences to draw from while the theoreticians made thought
>>     experiments that didn't fit the actual observations. We must
>>     learn and get wiser if we want to progress and this even if
>>     having to change or discard established theory. This is what the
>>     scientific method is about. Don't be religious about scientific
>>     theories (or even about gods). Go for truth.
>>
>>     Regards
>>     Ole
>>
>>
>>
>>     ---In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>,
>>     <nwootan@...> <mailto:nwootan@...> wrote :
>>
>>     See attachments.   Ole, Sweet & Bearden both admitted that they
>>     did not know how to capture and utilize the strange form of
>>     energy being produced.
>>
>>     On 11/27/2018 7:27 AM, onielsen@... <mailto:onielsen@...>
>>     [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>>>         Hi Norman,
>>>
>>>         I like that. Go for how nature works even if not
>>>         conventional. The natural laws written in books are made by
>>>         humans. Science is about explaining them the right way even
>>>         though some scientists don't do it that way unless specific
>>>         paid to do it the intended way. According to transmission
>>>         line theory the energy is running in the space between the
>>>         wires. At least this holds for good conductors. Even good
>>>         metallic conductors like silver have resistance which
>>>         dissipates the energy. Superconductors don't have this
>>>         problem but still have some max level where they can guide
>>>         the energy. Where the fields meet the surface of the
>>>         conductor the fields are mirrored. Thus the surface of the
>>>         conductor has to be a perfect mirror of the fields to be
>>>         superconductive.
>>>
>>>         T.J.J. See formulated it something like the forces at
>>>         extremely small distances are extremely great. Or for fields
>>>         at extremely thin wires the field intensity is extremely
>>>         high which can ionize the air or dielectric to be able to
>>>         move the energy. Plasma is also a very good conductor that
>>>         can have even negative resistance characteristics from
>>>         impact ionization. Thus it takes out energy from the
>>>         molecules that are hit by charged particles making even more
>>>         ions and charged particles.
>>>
>>>         I would like to see a replication of Floyd Sweets frosted
>>>         wires. He knew about transmission line theory according to
>>>         his document 'Nothing is Something' where he refers to Ivor
>>>         Catt and W.J. Hooper. His device was also claimed to possess
>>>         antigravity just like the device of Alexy Chekurov. A valid
>>>         theory must be able to explain such phenomena.
>>>
>>>         Regards
>>>         Ole
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         ---In [email protected]
>>>         <mailto:[email protected]>, <nwootan@...>
>>>         <mailto:nwootan@...> wrote :
>>>
>>>         Ole, your quote,( a very penetrating magnetic field) is
>>>         precisely what
>>>         is described as the Magneto-Electric effect which is totally
>>>         inverse to
>>>         our conventional Electro-magnetic theory and practice. All
>>>         of the
>>>         conventional electric theory goes out the window when
>>>         dealing with a
>>>         totally inverted Magneto-Electric event. It all fits with
>>>         our often
>>>         observed anomalies such as tremendous currents and voltages
>>>         carried over
>>>         very small conductors doing fantastic damage in the event. 
>>>         This is not
>>>         your Dads Oldsmobile.
>>>
>>>             On 11/27/2018 4:15 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>             <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>             > a very penetrating magnetic field. 
>>>
>

*TEOTWAWKI* is an acronym for *T*he *E*nd *O*f *T*he *W*orld *A*s *W*e 
*K*now *I*t. TEOTWAKI describes any event that plunges an organized 
society into a new order of survival and self-sufficiency.   See: 
attachment.

On 11/28/2018 12:04 PM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>
> Yeeeeeaaaaaah.    I agree for I am serious about the conductive  
> dielectric. Still studying the Felici Hydrogen dielectric 
> Electrostatic Generator.   Amazing, for we have a lot to learn.
>
> On 11/28/2018 10:06 AM, Warren Keillor [email protected] 
> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>>
>> Norman
>>
>> Crossing the carpet in your bunny slippers, only to get the shock of 
>> your life, touching the door knob?
>> The dielectric, when not moisture sodden, and conductive, becomes 
>> alive, as it dries, and rubs against other dielectrics.
>> Lets start saving examples of the phenomenon, we observe.
>> Cheers Warren
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
>> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>>
>>     On Wed, 28 Nov 2018 at 6:12 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected]
>>     [EVGRAY]
>>     <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>     Ole, this is all so correct. I have lived and learned just enough
>>     to be dangerous.  Lol  When I first hand witness an anomalous
>>     event in electrical applications, my response is curiosity
>>     instead of writing it off as most folks do. A thought that has
>>     been popping up in my mind is the definition of reciprocal,
>>     https://www.dictionary.com/browse/reciprocal where in
>>     conventional theory we have copper or other metals as conductors
>>     where as in the opposite (negative energy) the dielectric is the
>>     conductor and the metals become the dielectric. Maybe we are
>>     looking in the wrong places for our solution.  Just a thought.
>>     Bearden told me once to think opposite.   BTW, Joel & I made a
>>     trip to Atlanta, GA in spring of 1995 to demonstrate our MRA
>>     device to the Procurement Officer of IBM Corp. and two of his EE
>>     engineering. They were blown away with what they saw and we were
>>     told that IBM had a blank check for our technology if we could
>>     successfully get a Patent. Dr. Bass, Hughes Aircraft was our
>>     Patent Attorney.  On return trip back to Dallas we stopped at Tom
>>     Beardens place in Huntsville, AL and gave him a working MRA
>>     device at which time he totally explained his MEG device for
>>     which he was assembling a team to do the Patent.  Bearden fully
>>     explained all that Floyd Sweet had divulged regarding the
>>     Negative Energy and the incompatibility in our frame of
>>     reference. Thoughts?    Norm
>>
>>     On 11/27/2018 7:47 PM, [email protected]
>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>>     Hi Norman,
>>>
>>>     Sweet refers to Ivor Catt's theory instead of the conventional
>>>     theory. Here is a searchable version of the 'Nothing is
>>>     Something' document: http://jnaudin.free.fr/vta/.
>>>
>>>     Electromagnetism I by Ivor Catt: http://www.ivorcatt.com/em.htm.
>>>     There's no need for displacement current to explain
>>>     electromagnetism. Just treat capacitors as transmission lines.
>>>     Floyd sweet explains that every signal takes time to move
>>>     between two separate points which prevents the instant
>>>     propagation of displacement current. Ivor Catt describes
>>>     capacitors as transmission lines
>>>     (http://www.ivorcatt.org/icrwiworld78dec1.htm). The signal
>>>     enters the capacitor foils at a single point (or at two points)
>>>     and must travel to the edges of the foils making capacitors
>>>     rolled up or stacked transmission lines with the laws governing
>>>     transmission lines. Catt is or was controversial when
>>>     introducing a third theory of transmission lines. The theory
>>>     describing what happens the most accurate way must be the best
>>>     one no matter if the old theoreticians like Newton Maxwell or
>>>     Einstein are treated like gods in scientific circles. Engineers
>>>     may have personal experience of the phenomena happening when
>>>     designing devices and thus use whatever theory that can explain
>>>     the observations no matter what is written in old books. I think
>>>     this is also why Tesla laughed at the theoreticians because he
>>>     had his own experiences to draw from while the theoreticians
>>>     made thought experiments that didn't fit the actual
>>>     observations. We must learn and get wiser if we want to progress
>>>     and this even if having to change or discard established theory.
>>>     This is what the scientific method is about. Don't be religious
>>>     about scientific theories (or even about gods). Go for truth.
>>>
>>>     Regards
>>>     Ole
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>     ---In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>,
>>>     <nwootan@...> <mailto:nwootan@...> wrote :
>>>
>>>     See attachments.   Ole, Sweet & Bearden both admitted that they
>>>     did not know how to capture and utilize the strange form of
>>>     energy being produced.
>>>
>>>     On 11/27/2018 7:27 AM, onielsen@... <mailto:onielsen@...>
>>>     [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>>>         Hi Norman,
>>>>
>>>>         I like that. Go for how nature works even if not
>>>>         conventional. The natural laws written in books are made by
>>>>         humans. Science is about explaining them the right way even
>>>>         though some scientists don't do it that way unless specific
>>>>         paid to do it the intended way. According to transmission
>>>>         line theory the energy is running in the space between the
>>>>         wires. At least this holds for good conductors. Even good
>>>>         metallic conductors like silver have resistance which
>>>>         dissipates the energy. Superconductors don't have this
>>>>         problem but still have some max level where they can guide
>>>>         the energy. Where the fields meet the surface of the
>>>>         conductor the fields are mirrored. Thus the surface of the
>>>>         conductor has to be a perfect mirror of the fields to be
>>>>         superconductive.
>>>>
>>>>         T.J.J. See formulated it something like the forces at
>>>>         extremely small distances are extremely great. Or for
>>>>         fields at extremely thin wires the field intensity is
>>>>         extremely high which can ionize the air or dielectric to be
>>>>         able to move the energy. Plasma is also a very good
>>>>         conductor that can have even negative resistance
>>>>         characteristics from impact ionization. Thus it takes out
>>>>         energy from the molecules that are hit by charged particles
>>>>         making even more ions and charged particles.
>>>>
>>>>         I would like to see a replication of Floyd Sweets frosted
>>>>         wires. He knew about transmission line theory according to
>>>>         his document 'Nothing is Something' where he refers to Ivor
>>>>         Catt and W.J. Hooper. His device was also claimed to
>>>>         possess antigravity just like the device of Alexy Chekurov.
>>>>         A valid theory must be able to explain such phenomena.
>>>>
>>>>         Regards
>>>>         Ole
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         ---In [email protected]
>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]>, <nwootan@...>
>>>>         <mailto:nwootan@...> wrote :
>>>>
>>>>         Ole, your quote,( a very penetrating magnetic field) is
>>>>         precisely what
>>>>         is described as the Magneto-Electric effect which is
>>>>         totally inverse to
>>>>         our conventional Electro-magnetic theory and practice. All
>>>>         of the
>>>>         conventional electric theory goes out the window when
>>>>         dealing with a
>>>>         totally inverted Magneto-Electric event.  It all fits with
>>>>         our often
>>>>         observed anomalies such as tremendous currents and voltages
>>>>         carried over
>>>>         very small conductors doing fantastic damage in the event. 
>>>>         This is not
>>>>         your Dads Oldsmobile.
>>>>
>>>>             On 11/27/2018 4:15 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>             <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>             > a very penetrating magnetic field. 
>>>>
>>

https://www.space.com/29903-sun-xray-light-nasa-nustar-image.html

On 11/28/2018 12:32 PM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>
> *TEOTWAWKI* is an acronym for *T*he *E*nd *O*f *T*he *W*orld *A*s *W*e 
> *K*now *I*t. TEOTWAKI describes any event that plunges an organized 
> society into a new order of survival and self-sufficiency.   See: 
> attachment.
>
> On 11/28/2018 12:04 PM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>
>> Yeeeeeaaaaaah.    I agree for I am serious about the conductive  
>> dielectric. Still studying the Felici Hydrogen dielectric 
>> Electrostatic Generator.   Amazing, for we have a lot to learn.
>>
>> On 11/28/2018 10:06 AM, Warren Keillor [email protected] 
>> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Norman
>>>
>>> Crossing the carpet in your bunny slippers, only to get the shock of 
>>> your life, touching the door knob?
>>> The dielectric, when not moisture sodden, and conductive, becomes 
>>> alive, as it dries, and rubs against other dielectrics.
>>> Lets start saving examples of the phenomenon, we observe.
>>> Cheers Warren
>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
>>> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>>>
>>>     On Wed, 28 Nov 2018 at 6:12 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected]
>>>     [EVGRAY]
>>>     <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>     Ole, this is all so correct. I have lived and learned just
>>>     enough to be dangerous.  Lol  When I first hand witness an
>>>     anomalous event in electrical applications, my response is
>>>     curiosity instead of writing it off as most folks do. A thought
>>>     that has been popping up in my mind is the definition of
>>>     reciprocal, https://www.dictionary.com/browse/reciprocal where
>>>     in conventional theory we have copper or other metals as
>>>     conductors where as in the opposite (negative energy) the
>>>     dielectric is the conductor and the metals become the
>>>     dielectric.  Maybe we are looking in the wrong places for our
>>>     solution. Just a thought.   Bearden told me once to think
>>>     opposite.   BTW, Joel & I made a trip to Atlanta, GA in spring
>>>     of 1995 to demonstrate our MRA device to the Procurement Officer
>>>     of IBM Corp. and two of his EE engineering. They were blown away
>>>     with what they saw and we were told that IBM had a blank check
>>>     for our technology if we could successfully get a Patent. Dr.
>>>     Bass, Hughes Aircraft was our Patent Attorney.  On return trip
>>>     back to Dallas we stopped at Tom Beardens place in Huntsville,
>>>     AL and gave him a working MRA device at which time he totally
>>>     explained his MEG device for which he was assembling a team to
>>>     do the Patent.  Bearden fully explained all that Floyd Sweet had
>>>     divulged regarding the Negative Energy and the incompatibility
>>>     in our frame of reference. Thoughts?    Norm
>>>
>>>     On 11/27/2018 7:47 PM, [email protected]
>>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     Hi Norman,
>>>>
>>>>     Sweet refers to Ivor Catt's theory instead of the conventional
>>>>     theory. Here is a searchable version of the 'Nothing is
>>>>     Something' document: http://jnaudin.free.fr/vta/.
>>>>
>>>>     Electromagnetism I by Ivor Catt:
>>>>     http://www.ivorcatt.com/em.htm. There's no need for
>>>>     displacement current to explain electromagnetism. Just treat
>>>>     capacitors as transmission lines. Floyd sweet explains that
>>>>     every signal takes time to move between two separate points
>>>>     which prevents the instant propagation of displacement current.
>>>>     Ivor Catt describes capacitors as transmission lines
>>>>     (http://www.ivorcatt.org/icrwiworld78dec1.htm). The signal
>>>>     enters the capacitor foils at a single point (or at two points)
>>>>     and must travel to the edges of the foils making capacitors
>>>>     rolled up or stacked transmission lines with the laws governing
>>>>     transmission lines. Catt is or was controversial when
>>>>     introducing a third theory of transmission lines. The theory
>>>>     describing what happens the most accurate way must be the best
>>>>     one no matter if the old theoreticians like Newton Maxwell or
>>>>     Einstein are treated like gods in scientific circles. Engineers
>>>>     may have personal experience of the phenomena happening when
>>>>     designing devices and thus use whatever theory that can explain
>>>>     the observations no matter what is written in old books. I
>>>>     think this is also why Tesla laughed at the theoreticians
>>>>     because he had his own experiences to draw from while the
>>>>     theoreticians made thought experiments that didn't fit the
>>>>     actual observations. We must learn and get wiser if we want to
>>>>     progress and this even if having to change or discard
>>>>     established theory. This is what the scientific method is
>>>>     about. Don't be religious about scientific theories (or even
>>>>     about gods). Go for truth.
>>>>
>>>>     Regards
>>>>     Ole
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     ---In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>,
>>>>     <nwootan@...> <mailto:nwootan@...> wrote :
>>>>
>>>>     See attachments.   Ole, Sweet & Bearden both admitted that they
>>>>     did not know how to capture and utilize the strange form of
>>>>     energy being produced.
>>>>
>>>>     On 11/27/2018 7:27 AM, onielsen@... <mailto:onielsen@...>
>>>>     [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>         Hi Norman,
>>>>>
>>>>>         I like that. Go for how nature works even if not
>>>>>         conventional. The natural laws written in books are made
>>>>>         by humans. Science is about explaining them the right way
>>>>>         even though some scientists don't do it that way unless
>>>>>         specific paid to do it the intended way. According to
>>>>>         transmission line theory the energy is running in the
>>>>>         space between the wires. At least this holds for good
>>>>>         conductors. Even good metallic conductors like silver have
>>>>>         resistance which dissipates the energy. Superconductors
>>>>>         don't have this problem but still have some max level
>>>>>         where they can guide the energy. Where the fields meet the
>>>>>         surface of the conductor the fields are mirrored. Thus the
>>>>>         surface of the conductor has to be a perfect mirror of the
>>>>>         fields to be superconductive.
>>>>>
>>>>>         T.J.J. See formulated it something like the forces at
>>>>>         extremely small distances are extremely great. Or for
>>>>>         fields at extremely thin wires the field intensity is
>>>>>         extremely high which can ionize the air or dielectric to
>>>>>         be able to move the energy. Plasma is also a very good
>>>>>         conductor that can have even negative resistance
>>>>>         characteristics from impact ionization. Thus it takes out
>>>>>         energy from the molecules that are hit by charged
>>>>>         particles making even more ions and charged particles.
>>>>>
>>>>>         I would like to see a replication of Floyd Sweets frosted
>>>>>         wires. He knew about transmission line theory according to
>>>>>         his document 'Nothing is Something' where he refers to
>>>>>         Ivor Catt and W.J. Hooper. His device was also claimed to
>>>>>         possess antigravity just like the device of Alexy
>>>>>         Chekurov. A valid theory must be able to explain such
>>>>>         phenomena.
>>>>>
>>>>>         Regards
>>>>>         Ole
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>         ---In [email protected]
>>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]>, <nwootan@...>
>>>>>         <mailto:nwootan@...> wrote :
>>>>>
>>>>>         Ole, your quote,( a very penetrating magnetic field) is
>>>>>         precisely what
>>>>>         is described as the Magneto-Electric effect which is
>>>>>         totally inverse to
>>>>>         our conventional Electro-magnetic theory and practice. All
>>>>>         of the
>>>>>         conventional electric theory goes out the window when
>>>>>         dealing with a
>>>>>         totally inverted Magneto-Electric event.  It all fits with
>>>>>         our often
>>>>>         observed anomalies such as tremendous currents and
>>>>>         voltages carried over
>>>>>         very small conductors doing fantastic damage in the
>>>>>         event.  This is not
>>>>>         your Dads Oldsmobile.
>>>>>
>>>>>             On 11/27/2018 4:15 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>>             <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>             > a very penetrating magnetic field. 
>>>>>
>>>

I acquired the display piece from Stanford University Physics Dept. 
Linear Accelerator Lab, (SLAC) which was a Van de Graff 6 ft tall with 
chrome dome, rubber belt and all. I donated it to the Tesla Museum at 
Colorado Springs. I built all sorts of influence machines, Whinshurst, 
Holtz etc. Lot of fun experimenting with them. I never bought the theory 
of how they worked from High School Science Class.  Lots more going on 
here.  L>ol

On 11/28/2018 1:15 PM, Warren Keillor [email protected] 
[EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Norman
>
> I made a Van De Graaff generator about five feet high with an 18" 
> steel ball on top.
> It was steel because at that time I was able to form, and weld steel 
> very easily, as opposed to some other metals. I spun the steel in 
> hemispheres, on the lathe over a laminated wood form, then weld the 
> two halves together, after detailing the method of attachment to the 
> plastic column. I curved the hole in a gentle radius into the inside 
> of tje sphere, having no sharp edges.
> Surprisingly, this Van De Graaff worked rather well, reliably giving a 
> 14" spark every few seconds.
> I drove it with a dc shunt wound Bodine motor of 1/10 hp
> It just ran a rubber belt between pulleys with wire brushes at either 
> end of the belt. That seems to be the entire load of the motor, under 
> all conditions.
> Cheers Warren
> .
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
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>
>     On Wed, 28 Nov 2018 at 1:04 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]
>     <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>     Yeeeeeaaaaaah.    I agree for I am serious about the conductive 
>     dielectric. Still studying the Felici Hydrogen dielectric
>     Electrostatic Generator. Amazing, for we have a lot to learn.
>
>     On 11/28/2018 10:06 AM, Warren Keillor
>     [email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>>
>>     Norman
>>
>>     Crossing the carpet in your bunny slippers, only to get the shock
>>     of your life, touching the door knob?
>>     The dielectric, when not moisture sodden, and conductive, becomes
>>     alive, as it dries, and rubs against other dielectrics.
>>     Lets start saving examples of the phenomenon, we observe.
>>     Cheers Warren
>>     Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>     <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>>
>>         On Wed, 28 Nov 2018 at 6:12 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected]
>>         <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
>>         <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>         Ole, this is all so correct. I have lived and learned just
>>         enough to be dangerous.  Lol When I first hand witness an
>>         anomalous event in electrical applications, my response is
>>         curiosity instead of writing it off as most folks do. A
>>         thought that has been popping up in my mind is the definition
>>         of reciprocal, https://www.dictionary.com/browse/reciprocal
>>         where in conventional theory we have copper or other metals
>>         as conductors where as in the opposite (negative energy) the
>>         dielectric is the conductor and the metals become the
>>         dielectric. Maybe we are looking in the wrong places for our
>>         solution. Just a thought. Bearden told me once to think
>>         opposite. BTW, Joel & I made a trip to Atlanta, GA in spring
>>         of 1995 to demonstrate our MRA device to the Procurement
>>         Officer of IBM Corp. and two of his EE engineering. They were
>>         blown away with what they saw and we were told that IBM had a
>>         blank check for our technology if we could successfully get a
>>         Patent. Dr. Bass, Hughes Aircraft was our Patent Attorney. 
>>         On return trip back to Dallas we stopped at Tom Beardens
>>         place in Huntsville, AL and gave him a working MRA device at
>>         which time he totally explained his MEG device for which he
>>         was assembling a team to do the Patent.  Bearden fully
>>         explained all that Floyd Sweet had divulged regarding the
>>         Negative Energy and the incompatibility in our frame of
>>         reference. Thoughts?    Norm
>>
>>         On 11/27/2018 7:47 PM, [email protected]
>>         <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>>         Hi Norman,
>>>
>>>         Sweet refers to Ivor Catt's theory instead of the
>>>         conventional theory. Here is a searchable version of the
>>>         'Nothing is Something' document: http://jnaudin.free.fr/vta/.
>>>
>>>         Electromagnetism I by Ivor Catt:
>>>         http://www.ivorcatt.com/em.htm. There's no need for
>>>         displacement current to explain electromagnetism. Just treat
>>>         capacitors as transmission lines. Floyd sweet explains that
>>>         every signal takes time to move between two separate points
>>>         which prevents the instant propagation of displacement
>>>         current. Ivor Catt describes capacitors as transmission
>>>         lines (http://www.ivorcatt.org/icrwiworld78dec1.htm). The
>>>         signal enters the capacitor foils at a single point (or at
>>>         two points) and must travel to the edges of the foils making
>>>         capacitors rolled up or stacked transmission lines with the
>>>         laws governing transmission lines. Catt is or was
>>>         controversial when introducing a third theory of
>>>         transmission lines. The theory describing what happens the
>>>         most accurate way must be the best one no matter if the old
>>>         theoreticians like Newton Maxwell or Einstein are treated
>>>         like gods in scientific circles. Engineers may have personal
>>>         experience of the phenomena happening when designing devices
>>>         and thus use whatever theory that can explain the
>>>         observations no matter what is written in old books. I think
>>>         this is also why Tesla laughed at the theoreticians because
>>>         he had his own experiences to draw from while the
>>>         theoreticians made thought experiments that didn't fit the
>>>         actual observations. We must learn and get wiser if we want
>>>         to progress and this even if having to change or discard
>>>         established theory. This is what the scientific method is
>>>         about. Don't be religious about scientific theories (or even
>>>         about gods). Go for truth.
>>>
>>>         Regards
>>>         Ole
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         ---In [email protected]
>>>         <mailto:[email protected]>, <nwootan@...>
>>>         <mailto:nwootan@...> wrote :
>>>
>>>         See attachments. Ole, Sweet & Bearden both admitted that
>>>         they did not know how to capture and utilize the strange
>>>         form of energy being produced.
>>>
>>>         On 11/27/2018 7:27 AM, onielsen@... <mailto:onielsen@...>
>>>         [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>>>             Hi Norman,
>>>>
>>>>             I like that. Go for how nature works even if not
>>>>             conventional. The natural laws written in books are
>>>>             made by humans. Science is about explaining them the
>>>>             right way even though some scientists don't do it that
>>>>             way unless specific paid to do it the intended way.
>>>>             According to transmission line theory the energy is
>>>>             running in the space between the wires. At least this
>>>>             holds for good conductors. Even good metallic
>>>>             conductors like silver have resistance which dissipates
>>>>             the energy. Superconductors don't have this problem but
>>>>             still have some max level where they can guide the
>>>>             energy. Where the fields meet the surface of the
>>>>             conductor the fields are mirrored. Thus the surface of
>>>>             the conductor has to be a perfect mirror of the fields
>>>>             to be superconductive.
>>>>
>>>>             T.J.J. See formulated it something like the forces at
>>>>             extremely small distances are extremely great. Or for
>>>>             fields at extremely thin wires the field intensity is
>>>>             extremely high which can ionize the air or dielectric
>>>>             to be able to move the energy. Plasma is also a very
>>>>             good conductor that can have even negative resistance
>>>>             characteristics from impact ionization. Thus it takes
>>>>             out energy from the molecules that are hit by charged
>>>>             particles making even more ions and charged particles.
>>>>
>>>>             I would like to see a replication of Floyd Sweets
>>>>             frosted wires. He knew about transmission line theory
>>>>             according to his document 'Nothing is Something' where
>>>>             he refers to Ivor Catt and W.J. Hooper. His device was
>>>>             also claimed to possess antigravity just like the
>>>>             device of Alexy Chekurov. A valid theory must be able
>>>>             to explain such phenomena.
>>>>
>>>>             Regards
>>>>             Ole
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>             ---In [email protected]
>>>>             <mailto:[email protected]>, <nwootan@...>
>>>>             <mailto:nwootan@...> wrote :
>>>>
>>>>             Ole, your quote,( a very penetrating magnetic field) is
>>>>             precisely what
>>>>             is described as the Magneto-Electric effect which is
>>>>             totally inverse to
>>>>             our conventional Electro-magnetic theory and practice.
>>>>             All of the
>>>>             conventional electric theory goes out the window when
>>>>             dealing with a
>>>>             totally inverted Magneto-Electric event.  It all fits
>>>>             with our often
>>>>             observed anomalies such as tremendous currents and
>>>>             voltages carried over
>>>>             very small conductors doing fantastic damage in the
>>>>             event.  This is not
>>>>             your Dads Oldsmobile.
>>>>
>>>>                 On 11/27/2018 4:15 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>                 <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>                 > a very penetrating magnetic field. 
>>>>
>

DougIt reminds me of Howard Johnsons prototype I saw. The little tiny bits of hammer smashed magnets, carefully glued just so, in a gravel like array, along his tracks, where the car would go. It was like a scenic embankment, populated with chunky gravel stones, in a model rail road, large scale.He used early seventies five minute epoxy, rather than hot glue. It seemed to work just fine.Until I read up on it, I was unaware of how much consideration went into each and every one of those magnet crumbs, as to the position, and orientation.It makes you wonder, how did he read the magnets? A little hiker 's compass?In any event, he sure overcame the block wall, that any of us working with magnet motors, were challenged with. It was a blue bastard to overcome, but old Howard Johnson pulled it off, and made an, all magnet, self runner, back then. Too bad he messed with aluminium, and eddy currents, which he didn't know about.Cheers Warren

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  On Wed, 28 Nov 2018 at 12:57 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
Hi Mick
Interesting description of Sweets magnets it reminds me of Bill Miller's description of his black sand cores; "random polarities" to the crystalline encased ferrite in the black sand he used
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NormanCrossing the carpet in your bunny slippers, only to get the shock of your life, touching the door knob?The dielectric, when not moisture sodden, and conductive, becomes alive, as it dries, and rubs against other dielectrics.Lets start saving examples of the phenomenon, we observe.Cheers Warren
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  On Wed, 28 Nov 2018 at 6:12 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
 

Ole, this is all so correct. I have lived and learned just enough to be dangerous.  Lol  When I first hand witness an anomalous event in electrical applications, my response is curiosity instead of writing it off as most folks do. A thought that has been popping up in my mind is the definition of reciprocal,  https://www.dictionary.com/browse/reciprocal  where in conventional theory we have copper or other metals as conductors where as in the opposite (negative energy) the dielectric is the conductor and the metals become the dielectric.  Maybe we are looking in the wrong places for our solution.  Just a thought.   Bearden told me once to think opposite.   BTW, Joel & I made a trip to Atlanta, GA in spring of 1995 to demonstrate our MRA device to the Procurement Officer of IBM Corp. and two of his EE engineering. They were blown away with what they saw and we were told that IBM had a blank check for our technology if we could successfully get a Patent. Dr. Bass, Hughes Aircraft was our Patent Attorney.  On return trip back to Dallas we stopped at Tom Beardens place in Huntsville, AL and gave him a working MRA device at which time he totally explained his MEG device for which he was assembling a team to do the Patent.  Bearden fully explained all that Floyd Sweet had divulged regarding the Negative Energy and the incompatibility in our frame of reference. Thoughts?    Norm
 
 On 11/27/2018 7:47 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
Hi Norman,
 
 Sweet refers to Ivor Catt's theory instead of the conventional theory. Here is a searchable version of the 'Nothing is Something' document: http://jnaudin.free.fr/vta/.
 
 Electromagnetism I by Ivor Catt: http://www.ivorcatt.com/em.htm. There's no need for displacement current to explain electromagnetism. Just treat capacitors as transmission lines. Floyd sweet explains that every signal takes time to move between two separate points which prevents the instant propagation of displacement current. Ivor Catt describes capacitors as transmission lines (http://www.ivorcatt.org/icrwiworld78dec1.htm). The signal enters the capacitor foils at a single point (or at two points) and must travel to the edges of the foils making capacitors rolled up or stacked transmission lines with the laws governing transmission lines. Catt is or was controversial when introducing a third theory of transmission lines. The theory describing what happens the most accurate way must be the best one no matter if the old theoreticians like Newton Maxwell or Einstein are treated like gods in scientific circles. Engineers may have personal experience of the phenomena happening when designing devices and thus use whatever theory that can explain the observations no matter what is written in old books. I think this is also why Tesla laughed at the theoreticians because he had his own experiences to draw from while the theoreticians made thought experiments that didn't fit the actual observations. We must learn and get  wiser if we want to progress and this even if having to change or discard established theory. This is what the scientific method is about. Don't be religious about scientific theories (or even about gods). Go for truth.
 
 Regards
 Ole
 
 
 ---In [email protected], <nwootan@...> wrote :
 
  
See attachments.   Ole, Sweet & Bearden both admitted that they did not know how to capture and utilize the strange form of energy being produced.
 
 On 11/27/2018 7:27 AM, onielsen@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
 
    
Hi Norman,
 
 I like that. Go for how nature works even if not conventional. The natural laws written in books are made by humans. Science is about explaining them the right way even though some scientists don't do it that way unless specific paid to do it the intended way. According to transmission line theory the energy is running in the space between the wires. At least this holds for good  conductors. Even good metallic conductors like silver have resistance which dissipates the energy. Superconductors don't have this problem but still have some max level where they can guide the energy. Where the fields meet the surface of the conductor the fields are mirrored. Thus the surface of the conductor has to be a perfect mirror of the fields to be superconductive.
 
 T.J.J. See formulated it something like the forces at extremely small distances are extremely great. Or for fields at extremely thin wires the field intensity is extremely high which can ionize the air or dielectric to be able to move the energy. Plasma is also a very good conductor that can have even negative resistance characteristics from impact ionization. Thus it takes out  energy from the molecules that are hit by charged particles making even more ions and charged particles.
 
 I would like to see a replication of Floyd Sweets frosted wires. He knew about transmission line theory according to his document 'Nothing is Something' where he refers to Ivor Catt and W.J. Hooper. His device was also claimed to possess antigravity just like the device of Alexy Chekurov. A valid theory must be able to explain such phenomena.
 
 Regards
 Ole
 
 
 
 ---In [email protected], <nwootan@...> wrote :
 
 Ole, your quote,( a very penetrating magnetic field) is precisely what 
 is described as the Magneto-Electric effect which is totally inverse to 
 our conventional Electro-magnetic theory and practice. All of the 
 conventional electric theory goes out the window when dealing with a 
 totally inverted Magneto-Electric event.  It all fits with our often 
 observed anomalies such as tremendous currents and voltages carried over 
 very small conductors doing fantastic damage in the event.  This is not 
 your Dads Oldsmobile.
 
 
 On 11/27/2018 4:15 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
 > a very penetrating magnetic field. 
    
 
    
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NormanI made a Van De Graaff generator about five feet high with an 18" steel ball on top.It was steel because at that time I was able to form, and weld steel very easily, as opposed to some other metals. I spun the steel in hemispheres, on the lathe over a laminated wood form, then weld the two halves together, after detailing the method of attachment to the plastic column. I curved the hole in a gentle radius into the inside of tje sphere, having no sharp edges.Surprisingly, this Van De Graaff worked rather well, reliably giving a 14" spark every few seconds.I drove it with a dc shunt wound Bodine motor of 1/10 hpIt just ran a rubber belt between pulleys with wire brushes at either end of the belt. That seems to be the entire load of the motor, under all conditions.Cheers Warren. 

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  On Wed, 28 Nov 2018 at 1:04 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
 

Yeeeeeaaaaaah.    I agree for I am serious about the conductive  dielectric. Still studying the Felici Hydrogen dielectric Electrostatic Generator.   Amazing, for we have a lot to learn.
 
 On 11/28/2018 10:06 AM, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    

 Norman
 Crossing the carpet in your bunny slippers, only to get the shock of your life, touching the door knob? The dielectric, when not moisture sodden, and conductive, becomes alive, as it dries, and rubs against other dielectrics. Lets start saving examples of the phenomenon, we observe. Cheers Warren
 Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Wed, 28 Nov 2018 at 6:12 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:          
 
 
Ole, this is all so correct. I have lived and learned just enough to be dangerous.  Lol  When I first hand witness an anomalous event in electrical applications, my response is curiosity instead of writing it off as most folks do. A thought that has been popping up in my mind is the definition of reciprocal,  https://www.dictionary.com/browse/reciprocal  where in conventional theory we have copper or other metals as conductors where as in the opposite (negative energy) the dielectric is the conductor and the metals become the dielectric.  Maybe we are looking in the wrong places for our solution.  Just a thought.   Bearden told me once to think opposite.   BTW, Joel & I made a trip to Atlanta, GA in spring of 1995 to demonstrate our MRA device to the Procurement Officer of IBM Corp. and two of his EE engineering. They were blown away with what they saw and we were told that IBM had a blank check for our technology if we could successfully get a Patent. Dr. Bass, Hughes Aircraft was our Patent Attorney.  On return trip back to Dallas we stopped at Tom Beardens place in Huntsville, AL and gave him a working MRA device at which time he totally explained his MEG device for which he was assembling a team to do the  Patent.  Bearden fully explained all that Floyd Sweet had divulged regarding the Negative Energy and the incompatibility in our frame of reference. Thoughts?    Norm
 
  On 11/27/2018 7:47 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
Hi Norman,
 
 Sweet refers to Ivor Catt's theory instead of the conventional theory. Here is a searchable version of the 'Nothing is Something' document: http://jnaudin.free.fr/vta/.
 
 Electromagnetism I by Ivor Catt: http://www.ivorcatt.com/em.htm. There's no need for displacement current to explain electromagnetism. Just treat capacitors as transmission lines. Floyd sweet explains that every signal takes time to move between two separate points which prevents the instant propagation of displacement current. Ivor Catt describes capacitors as transmission lines (http://www.ivorcatt.org/icrwiworld78dec1.htm). The signal enters the capacitor foils at a single point (or at two points) and must travel to the edges of the foils making capacitors rolled up or stacked transmission  lines with the laws governing transmission lines. Catt is or was controversial when introducing a third theory of transmission lines. The theory describing what happens the most accurate way must be the best one no matter if the old theoreticians like Newton Maxwell or Einstein are treated like gods in scientific circles. Engineers may have personal experience of the  phenomena happening when designing devices and thus use whatever theory that can explain the observations no matter what is written in old books. I think this is also why Tesla laughed at the theoreticians because he had his own experiences to draw from while the theoreticians made thought experiments that didn't fit the actual observations. We must learn and get wiser if we want to progress and this even if having to change or discard established theory. This is what the scientific method is about. Don't be religious about scientific theories (or even  about gods). Go for truth.
 
 Regards
 Ole
 
 
 ---In [email protected], <nwootan@...> wrote :
 
  
See attachments.   Ole, Sweet & Bearden both admitted that they did not know how to capture and utilize the strange form of energy being produced.
 
 On 11/27/2018 7:27 AM, onielsen@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
  
    
Hi Norman,
 
 I like that. Go for how nature works even if not conventional. The natural laws written in books are made by humans. Science is  about explaining them the right way even though some scientists don't do it that way unless specific paid to do it the intended  way. According to transmission line theory the energy is running in the space between the wires. At least this holds for good conductors. Even  good metallic conductors like silver have resistance which dissipates the energy. Superconductors don't have  this problem but still have some max level where they can guide the energy. Where the fields meet the surface of the conductor the fields are mirrored. Thus the surface of the conductor has to be a perfect mirror of the fields to be superconductive.
 
 T.J.J. See formulated it something like the forces at extremely small distances are extremely great. Or for fields at  extremely thin wires the field intensity is extremely high which can ionize the air or dielectric to be able to move the energy. Plasma is also a very good conductor that can have even negative resistance characteristics from impact ionization. Thus it  takes out energy from the molecules that are hit by charged particles making even more ions and charged particles.
 
 I would like to see a replication of Floyd Sweets frosted wires. He knew about transmission line theory according to  his document 'Nothing is Something' where he refers to Ivor Catt and W.J. Hooper. His device was also claimed to possess antigravity just like the device of Alexy Chekurov. A valid theory must be able to explain such phenomena.
 
 Regards
 Ole
 
 
 
 ---In [email protected], <nwootan@...> wrote :
 
 Ole, your quote,( a very penetrating magnetic field) is precisely what 
 is described as the Magneto-Electric effect which is totally inverse to 
 our conventional Electro-magnetic theory and practice. All of the 
 conventional electric theory goes out the window when dealing with a 
 totally inverted Magneto-Electric event.  It all fits with our often 
 observed anomalies such as tremendous currents and voltages carried over 
 very small conductors doing fantastic damage in the event.  This is not 
 your Dads Oldsmobile.
 
 
 On 11/27/2018 4:15 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
 > a very penetrating magnetic field. 
    
 
    
        
   
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Hi Norman,

I remember Ivor Catt mentioned that copper could actually have infinite high dielectric constant or relative permittivity. 
https://wiki2.org/en/Permittivity https://wiki2.org/en/Permittivity
https://wiki2.org/en/Relative_permittivity https://wiki2.org/en/Relative_permittivity

I once measured the propagation speed of electromagnetic fields through a ferrite ring. This speed is quite slow compared to its speed in vacuum meaning the product of the permittivity and permeability is larger for ferrite than for vacuum. This is used in one of the equations that is forbidden by scientists but are very useful in engineering (Forrest Bishop discussing the Catt question formula 5 here: http://www.naturalphilosophy.org/pdf/abstracts/abstracts_paperlink_7395.pdf http://www.naturalphilosophy.org/pdf/abstracts/abstracts_paperlink_7395.pdf). W.J. Hooper did some measurements of the signal speed of charges through a copper wire in his motional electric field generator. The motional electric field can't be screened and may actually be what causes gravity according to W.B. Smith and W.J. Hooper. The motional electric field is caused by moving charges. The field strength E_motional is the vector product or cross product:

E_motional = B X v

where B is the magnetic field strength of the moving charges and v is the speed of the charges. For a high field strength of the motional electric field the vector product of the magnetic field strength and the electric field strength of the moving charges is necessary. Hooper found that in copper the charge carriers moved faster the colder the wire was. The speed is still very slow for the currents he was able to run through the zig zagging wire which was some 30A if I remember correct. The wire was cooled by dry ice.

Floyd Sweet may have made a much more powerful motional electric field by using ferrite magnets. The figures he uses in his document are the same ones used by Hooper. Sweet used the theory of Hooper. The Russian antigravity device or levitation device of Alexey Chekurov may use exactly that same motional electric field. Chekurov has the charges on the rotating metal discs. Their rotation while charged creates the normal magnetic field which is canceled by making the discs spin in opposite directions. But by using the not smooth surface discs the charges are better forced to follow the discs while spinning. This I guess gives a great motional electric field which is what lifts the device from the ground if Smith and Hooper are correct. The field may have to be shaped in some direction like diverged to or away from some point or points. Larry Wandell also shows the interaction of a permanent magnetic field lifting gold aluminum and wood. Actually I'm not sure the video with the wood sample is active anymore. Anyway Wandell charges the samples with a handheld Van de Graaff generator and then lifts the nonmagnetic samples with a permanent magnet. It only works with the samples charged: https://www.youtube.com/user/bluedoaify/videos https://www.youtube.com/user/bluedoaify/videos

BTW when reading the Bearden MEG patent it looks like they have forgotten the parasitic reverse diode in such devices due to being NP (or PN) semiconductors. The spikes going back to the battery goes through those parasitic diodes.

Regards
Ole 

---In [email protected], <nwootan@...> wrote :

 Ole, this is all so correct. I have lived and learned just enough to be dangerous.  Lol  When I first hand witness an anomalous event in electrical applications, my response is curiosity instead of writing it off as most folks do. A thought that has been popping up in my mind is the definition of reciprocal,  https://www.dictionary.com/browse/reciprocal https://www.dictionary.com/browse/reciprocal  where in conventional theory we have copper or other metals as conductors where as in the opposite (negative energy) the dielectric is the conductor and the metals become the dielectric.  Maybe we are looking in the wrong places for our solution.  Just a thought.   Bearden told me once to think opposite.   BTW, Joel & I made a trip to Atlanta, GA in spring of 1995 to demonstrate our MRA device to the Procurement Officer of IBM Corp. and two of his EE engineering. They were blown away with what they saw and we were told that IBM had a blank check for our technology if we could successfully get a Patent. Dr. Bass, Hughes Aircraft was our Patent Attorney.  On return trip back to Dallas we stopped at Tom Beardens place in Huntsville, AL and gave him a working MRA device at which time he totally explained his MEG device for which he was assembling a team to do the Patent.  Bearden fully explained all that Floyd Sweet had divulged regarding the Negative Energy and the incompatibility in our frame of reference. Thoughts?    Norm

 On 11/27/2018 7:47 PM, onielsen@... mailto:onielsen@... [EVGRAY] wrote:

   Hi Norman,
 
 Sweet refers to Ivor Catt's theory instead of the conventional theory. Here is a searchable version of the 'Nothing is Something' document: http://jnaudin.free.fr/vta/ http://jnaudin.free.fr/vta/.
 
 Electromagnetism I by Ivor Catt: http://www.ivorcatt.com/em.htm http://www.ivorcatt.com/em.htm. There's no need for displacement current to explain electromagnetism. Just treat capacitors as transmission lines. Floyd sweet explains that every signal takes time to move between two separate points which prevents the instant propagation of displacement current. Ivor Catt describes capacitors as transmission lines (http://www.ivorcatt.org/icrwiworld78dec1.htm http://www.ivorcatt.org/icrwiworld78dec1.htm). The signal enters the capacitor foils at a single point (or at two points) and must travel to the edges of the foils making capacitors rolled up or stacked transmission lines with the laws governing transmission lines. Catt is or was controversial when introducing a third theory of transmission lines. The theory describing what happens the most accurate way must be the best one no matter if the old theoreticians like Newton Maxwell or Einstein are treated like gods in scientific circles. Engineers may have personal experience of the phenomena happening when designing devices and thus use whatever theory that can explain the observations no matter what is written in old books. I think this is also why Tesla laughed at the theoreticians because he had his own experiences to draw from while the theoreticians made thought experiments that didn't fit the actual observations. We must learn and get wiser if we want to progress and this even if having to change or discard established theory. This is what the scientific method is about. Don't be religious about scientific theories (or even about gods). Go for truth.
 
 Regards
 Ole
 
 
 ---In [email protected] mailto:[email protected], <nwootan@...> mailto:nwootan@... wrote :
 
 See attachments.   Ole, Sweet & Bearden both admitted that they did not know how to capture and utilize the strange form of energy being produced.

 On 11/27/2018 7:27 AM, onielsen@... mailto:onielsen@... [EVGRAY] wrote:

   Hi Norman,
 
 I like that. Go for how nature works even if not conventional. The natural laws written in books are made by humans. Science is about explaining them the right way even though some scientists don't do it that way unless specific paid to do it the intended way. According to transmission line theory the energy is running in the space between the wires. At least this holds for good conductors. Even good metallic conductors like silver have resistance which dissipates the energy. Superconductors don't have this problem but still have some max level where they can guide the energy. Where the fields meet the surface of the conductor the fields are mirrored. Thus the surface of the conductor has to be a perfect mirror of the fields to be superconductive.
 
 T.J.J. See formulated it something like the forces at extremely small distances are extremely great. Or for fields at extremely thin wires the field intensity is extremely high which can ionize the air or dielectric to be able to move the energy. Plasma is also a very good conductor that can have even negative resistance characteristics from impact ionization. Thus it takes out energy from the molecules that are hit by charged particles making even more ions and charged particles.
 
 I would like to see a replication of Floyd Sweets frosted wires. He knew about transmission line theory according to his document 'Nothing is Something' where he refers to Ivor Catt and W.J. Hooper. His device was also claimed to possess antigravity just like the device of Alexy Chekurov. A valid theory must be able to explain such phenomena.
 
 Regards
 Ole

 
 
 ---In [email protected] mailto:[email protected], <nwootan@...> mailto:nwootan@... wrote :
 
 Ole, your quote,( a very penetrating magnetic field) is precisely what 
 is described as the Magneto-Electric effect which is totally inverse to 
 our conventional Electro-magnetic theory and practice. All of the 
 conventional electric theory goes out the window when dealing with a 
 totally inverted Magneto-Electric event.  It all fits with our often 
 observed anomalies such as tremendous currents and voltages carried over 
 very small conductors doing fantastic damage in the event.  This is not 
 your Dads Oldsmobile.
 
 On 11/27/2018 4:15 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... mailto:nwootan@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
 > a very penetrating magnetic field.

Ole, After reading Ivor Catt doc and understanding Alfven waves and TEM 
we can get a better handle on the flux anninilation-reconnect phenomenon 
in a common high amperage switching event arc (plasma). See: 
http://www.physics.ucla.edu/plasma-exp/research/MagFieldAnnihilation/index.html

https://svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/4560

On 11/27/2018 7:47 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Hi Norman,
>
> Sweet refers to Ivor Catt's theory instead of the conventional theory. 
> Here is a searchable version of the 'Nothing is Something' document: 
> http://jnaudin.free.fr/vta/.
>
> Electromagnetism I by Ivor Catt: http://www.ivorcatt.com/em.htm. 
> There's no need for displacement current to explain electromagnetism. 
> Just treat capacitors as transmission lines. Floyd sweet explains that 
> every signal takes time to move between two separate points which 
> prevents the instant propagation of displacement current. Ivor Catt 
> describes capacitors as transmission lines 
> (http://www.ivorcatt.org/icrwiworld78dec1.htm). The signal enters the 
> capacitor foils at a single point (or at two points) and must travel 
> to the edges of the foils making capacitors rolled up or stacked 
> transmission lines with the laws governing transmission lines. Catt is 
> or was controversial when introducing a third theory of transmission 
> lines. The theory describing what happens the most accurate way must 
> be the best one no matter if the old theoreticians like Newton Maxwell 
> or Einstein are treated like gods in scientific circles. Engineers may 
> have personal experience of the phenomena happening when designing 
> devices and thus use whatever theory that can explain the observations 
> no matter what is written in old books. I think this is also why Tesla 
> laughed at the theoreticians because he had his own experiences to 
> draw from while the theoreticians made thought experiments that didn't 
> fit the actual observations. We must learn and get wiser if we want to 
> progress and this even if having to change or discard established 
> theory. This is what the scientific method is about. Don't be 
> religious about scientific theories (or even about gods). Go for truth.
>
> Regards
> Ole
>
>
>
> ---In [email protected], <nwootan@...> wrote :
>
> See attachments.   Ole, Sweet & Bearden both admitted that they did 
> not know how to capture and utilize the strange form of energy being 
> produced.
>
> On 11/27/2018 7:27 AM, onielsen@... <mailto:onielsen@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
>>     Hi Norman,
>>
>>     I like that. Go for how nature works even if not conventional.
>>     The natural laws written in books are made by humans. Science is
>>     about explaining them the right way even though some scientists
>>     don't do it that way unless specific paid to do it the intended
>>     way. According to transmission line theory the energy is running
>>     in the space between the wires. At least this holds for good
>>     conductors. Even good metallic conductors like silver have
>>     resistance which dissipates the energy. Superconductors don't
>>     have this problem but still have some max level where they can
>>     guide the energy. Where the fields meet the surface of the
>>     conductor the fields are mirrored. Thus the surface of the
>>     conductor has to be a perfect mirror of the fields to be
>>     superconductive.
>>
>>     T.J.J. See formulated it something like the forces at extremely
>>     small distances are extremely great. Or for fields at extremely
>>     thin wires the field intensity is extremely high which can ionize
>>     the air or dielectric to be able to move the energy. Plasma is
>>     also a very good conductor that can have even negative resistance
>>     characteristics from impact ionization. Thus it takes out energy
>>     from the molecules that are hit by charged particles making even
>>     more ions and charged particles.
>>
>>     I would like to see a replication of Floyd Sweets frosted wires.
>>     He knew about transmission line theory according to his document
>>     'Nothing is Something' where he refers to Ivor Catt and W.J.
>>     Hooper. His device was also claimed to possess antigravity just
>>     like the device of Alexy Chekurov. A valid theory must be able to
>>     explain such phenomena.
>>
>>     Regards
>>     Ole
>>
>>
>>
>>     ---In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>,
>>     <nwootan@...> <mailto:nwootan@...> wrote :
>>
>>     Ole, your quote,( a very penetrating magnetic field) is precisely
>>     what
>>     is described as the Magneto-Electric effect which is totally
>>     inverse to
>>     our conventional Electro-magnetic theory and practice. All of the
>>     conventional electric theory goes out the window when dealing with a
>>     totally inverted Magneto-Electric event.  It all fits with our often
>>     observed anomalies such as tremendous currents and voltages
>>     carried over
>>     very small conductors doing fantastic damage in the event.  This
>>     is not
>>     your Dads Oldsmobile.
>>
>>         On 11/27/2018 4:15 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>         <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>         > a very penetrating magnetic field. 
>>
>

http://www.fusion.ucla.edu/FNST/Renew_Presentations/Tuesday/5.7-Slough-ReNeW%20Theme%204%20talk.pdf

On 11/29/2018 7:02 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>
> Ole, After reading Ivor Catt doc and understanding Alfven waves and 
> TEM we can get a better handle on the flux anninilation-reconnect 
> phenomenon in a common high amperage switching event arc (plasma). 
> See: 
> http://www.physics.ucla.edu/plasma-exp/research/MagFieldAnnihilation/index.html
>
> https://svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/4560
>
> On 11/27/2018 7:47 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>> Hi Norman,
>>
>> Sweet refers to Ivor Catt's theory instead of the conventional 
>> theory. Here is a searchable version of the 'Nothing is Something' 
>> document: http://jnaudin.free.fr/vta/.
>>
>> Electromagnetism I by Ivor Catt: http://www.ivorcatt.com/em.htm. 
>> There's no need for displacement current to explain electromagnetism. 
>> Just treat capacitors as transmission lines. Floyd sweet explains 
>> that every signal takes time to move between two separate points 
>> which prevents the instant propagation of displacement current. Ivor 
>> Catt describes capacitors as transmission lines 
>> (http://www.ivorcatt.org/icrwiworld78dec1.htm). The signal enters the 
>> capacitor foils at a single point (or at two points) and must travel 
>> to the edges of the foils making capacitors rolled up or stacked 
>> transmission lines with the laws governing transmission lines. Catt 
>> is or was controversial when introducing a third theory of 
>> transmission lines. The theory describing what happens the most 
>> accurate way must be the best one no matter if the old theoreticians 
>> like Newton Maxwell or Einstein are treated like gods in scientific 
>> circles. Engineers may have personal experience of the phenomena 
>> happening when designing devices and thus use whatever theory that 
>> can explain the observations no matter what is written in old books. 
>> I think this is also why Tesla laughed at the theoreticians because 
>> he had his own experiences to draw from while the theoreticians made 
>> thought experiments that didn't fit the actual observations. We must 
>> learn and get wiser if we want to progress and this even if having to 
>> change or discard established theory. This is what the scientific 
>> method is about. Don't be religious about scientific theories (or 
>> even about gods). Go for truth.
>>
>> Regards
>> Ole
>>
>>
>>
>> ---In [email protected], <nwootan@...> wrote :
>>
>> See attachments.   Ole, Sweet & Bearden both admitted that they did 
>> not know how to capture and utilize the strange form of energy being 
>> produced.
>>
>> On 11/27/2018 7:27 AM, onielsen@... <mailto:onielsen@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>>>     Hi Norman,
>>>
>>>     I like that. Go for how nature works even if not conventional.
>>>     The natural laws written in books are made by humans. Science is
>>>     about explaining them the right way even though some scientists
>>>     don't do it that way unless specific paid to do it the intended
>>>     way. According to transmission line theory the energy is running
>>>     in the space between the wires. At least this holds for good
>>>     conductors. Even good metallic conductors like silver have
>>>     resistance which dissipates the energy. Superconductors don't
>>>     have this problem but still have some max level where they can
>>>     guide the energy. Where the fields meet the surface of the
>>>     conductor the fields are mirrored. Thus the surface of the
>>>     conductor has to be a perfect mirror of the fields to be
>>>     superconductive.
>>>
>>>     T.J.J. See formulated it something like the forces at extremely
>>>     small distances are extremely great. Or for fields at extremely
>>>     thin wires the field intensity is extremely high which can
>>>     ionize the air or dielectric to be able to move the energy.
>>>     Plasma is also a very good conductor that can have even negative
>>>     resistance characteristics from impact ionization. Thus it takes
>>>     out energy from the molecules that are hit by charged particles
>>>     making even more ions and charged particles.
>>>
>>>     I would like to see a replication of Floyd Sweets frosted wires.
>>>     He knew about transmission line theory according to his document
>>>     'Nothing is Something' where he refers to Ivor Catt and W.J.
>>>     Hooper. His device was also claimed to possess antigravity just
>>>     like the device of Alexy Chekurov. A valid theory must be able
>>>     to explain such phenomena.
>>>
>>>     Regards
>>>     Ole
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>     ---In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>,
>>>     <nwootan@...> <mailto:nwootan@...> wrote :
>>>
>>>     Ole, your quote,( a very penetrating magnetic field) is
>>>     precisely what
>>>     is described as the Magneto-Electric effect which is totally
>>>     inverse to
>>>     our conventional Electro-magnetic theory and practice. All of the
>>>     conventional electric theory goes out the window when dealing
>>>     with a
>>>     totally inverted Magneto-Electric event. It all fits with our often
>>>     observed anomalies such as tremendous currents and voltages
>>>     carried over
>>>     very small conductors doing fantastic damage in the event.  This
>>>     is not
>>>     your Dads Oldsmobile.
>>>
>>>         On 11/27/2018 4:15 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>         <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>         > a very penetrating magnetic field. 
>>>
>>

See attached

On 11/29/2018 7:34 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>
> http://www.fusion.ucla.edu/FNST/Renew_Presentations/Tuesday/5.7-Slough-ReNeW%20Theme%204%20talk.pdf
>
> On 11/29/2018 7:02 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>
>> Ole, After reading Ivor Catt doc and understanding Alfven waves and 
>> TEM we can get a better handle on the flux anninilation-reconnect 
>> phenomenon in a common high amperage switching event arc (plasma). 
>> See: 
>> http://www.physics.ucla.edu/plasma-exp/research/MagFieldAnnihilation/index.html
>>
>> https://svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/4560
>>
>> On 11/27/2018 7:47 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Norman,
>>>
>>> Sweet refers to Ivor Catt's theory instead of the conventional 
>>> theory. Here is a searchable version of the 'Nothing is Something' 
>>> document: http://jnaudin.free.fr/vta/.
>>>
>>> Electromagnetism I by Ivor Catt: http://www.ivorcatt.com/em.htm. 
>>> There's no need for displacement current to explain 
>>> electromagnetism. Just treat capacitors as transmission lines. Floyd 
>>> sweet explains that every signal takes time to move between two 
>>> separate points which prevents the instant propagation of 
>>> displacement current. Ivor Catt describes capacitors as transmission 
>>> lines (http://www.ivorcatt.org/icrwiworld78dec1.htm). The signal 
>>> enters the capacitor foils at a single point (or at two points) and 
>>> must travel to the edges of the foils making capacitors rolled up or 
>>> stacked transmission lines with the laws governing transmission 
>>> lines. Catt is or was controversial when introducing a third theory 
>>> of transmission lines. The theory describing what happens the most 
>>> accurate way must be the best one no matter if the old theoreticians 
>>> like Newton Maxwell or Einstein are treated like gods in scientific 
>>> circles. Engineers may have personal experience of the phenomena 
>>> happening when designing devices and thus use whatever theory that 
>>> can explain the observations no matter what is written in old books. 
>>> I think this is also why Tesla laughed at the theoreticians because 
>>> he had his own experiences to draw from while the theoreticians made 
>>> thought experiments that didn't fit the actual observations. We must 
>>> learn and get wiser if we want to progress and this even if having 
>>> to change or discard established theory. This is what the scientific 
>>> method is about. Don't be religious about scientific theories (or 
>>> even about gods). Go for truth.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Ole
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---In [email protected], <nwootan@...> wrote :
>>>
>>> See attachments.   Ole, Sweet & Bearden both admitted that they did 
>>> not know how to capture and utilize the strange form of energy being 
>>> produced.
>>>
>>> On 11/27/2018 7:27 AM, onielsen@... <mailto:onielsen@...> [EVGRAY] 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>     Hi Norman,
>>>>
>>>>     I like that. Go for how nature works even if not conventional.
>>>>     The natural laws written in books are made by humans. Science
>>>>     is about explaining them the right way even though some
>>>>     scientists don't do it that way unless specific paid to do it
>>>>     the intended way. According to transmission line theory the
>>>>     energy is running in the space between the wires. At least this
>>>>     holds for good conductors. Even good metallic conductors like
>>>>     silver have resistance which dissipates the energy.
>>>>     Superconductors don't have this problem but still have some max
>>>>     level where they can guide the energy. Where the fields meet
>>>>     the surface of the conductor the fields are mirrored. Thus the
>>>>     surface of the conductor has to be a perfect mirror of the
>>>>     fields to be superconductive.
>>>>
>>>>     T.J.J. See formulated it something like the forces at extremely
>>>>     small distances are extremely great. Or for fields at extremely
>>>>     thin wires the field intensity is extremely high which can
>>>>     ionize the air or dielectric to be able to move the energy.
>>>>     Plasma is also a very good conductor that can have even
>>>>     negative resistance characteristics from impact ionization.
>>>>     Thus it takes out energy from the molecules that are hit by
>>>>     charged particles making even more ions and charged particles.
>>>>
>>>>     I would like to see a replication of Floyd Sweets frosted
>>>>     wires. He knew about transmission line theory according to his
>>>>     document 'Nothing is Something' where he refers to Ivor Catt
>>>>     and W.J. Hooper. His device was also claimed to possess
>>>>     antigravity just like the device of Alexy Chekurov. A valid
>>>>     theory must be able to explain such phenomena.
>>>>
>>>>     Regards
>>>>     Ole
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     ---In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>,
>>>>     <nwootan@...> <mailto:nwootan@...> wrote :
>>>>
>>>>     Ole, your quote,( a very penetrating magnetic field) is
>>>>     precisely what
>>>>     is described as the Magneto-Electric effect which is totally
>>>>     inverse to
>>>>     our conventional Electro-magnetic theory and practice. All of the
>>>>     conventional electric theory goes out the window when dealing
>>>>     with a
>>>>     totally inverted Magneto-Electric event.  It all fits with our
>>>>     often
>>>>     observed anomalies such as tremendous currents and voltages
>>>>     carried over
>>>>     very small conductors doing fantastic damage in the event. 
>>>>     This is not
>>>>     your Dads Oldsmobile.
>>>>
>>>>         On 11/27/2018 4:15 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>         <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>         > a very penetrating magnetic field. 
>>>>
>>>

http://scholarlypages.org/Articles/electronics-and-communication/jec-1-001.php?jid=electronics-and-communication

On 11/29/2018 7:58 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>
> See attached
>
> On 11/29/2018 7:34 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>
>> http://www.fusion.ucla.edu/FNST/Renew_Presentations/Tuesday/5.7-Slough-ReNeW%20Theme%204%20talk.pdf
>>
>> On 11/29/2018 7:02 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>
>>> Ole, After reading Ivor Catt doc and understanding Alfven waves and 
>>> TEM we can get a better handle on the flux anninilation-reconnect 
>>> phenomenon in a common high amperage switching event arc (plasma). 
>>> See: 
>>> http://www.physics.ucla.edu/plasma-exp/research/MagFieldAnnihilation/index.html
>>>
>>> https://svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/4560
>>>
>>> On 11/27/2018 7:47 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Norman,
>>>>
>>>> Sweet refers to Ivor Catt's theory instead of the conventional 
>>>> theory. Here is a searchable version of the 'Nothing is Something' 
>>>> document: http://jnaudin.free.fr/vta/.
>>>>
>>>> Electromagnetism I by Ivor Catt: http://www.ivorcatt.com/em.htm. 
>>>> There's no need for displacement current to explain 
>>>> electromagnetism. Just treat capacitors as transmission lines. 
>>>> Floyd sweet explains that every signal takes time to move between 
>>>> two separate points which prevents the instant propagation of 
>>>> displacement current. Ivor Catt describes capacitors as 
>>>> transmission lines (http://www.ivorcatt.org/icrwiworld78dec1.htm). 
>>>> The signal enters the capacitor foils at a single point (or at two 
>>>> points) and must travel to the edges of the foils making capacitors 
>>>> rolled up or stacked transmission lines with the laws governing 
>>>> transmission lines. Catt is or was controversial when introducing a 
>>>> third theory of transmission lines. The theory describing what 
>>>> happens the most accurate way must be the best one no matter if the 
>>>> old theoreticians like Newton Maxwell or Einstein are treated like 
>>>> gods in scientific circles. Engineers may have personal experience 
>>>> of the phenomena happening when designing devices and thus use 
>>>> whatever theory that can explain the observations no matter what is 
>>>> written in old books. I think this is also why Tesla laughed at the 
>>>> theoreticians because he had his own experiences to draw from while 
>>>> the theoreticians made thought experiments that didn't fit the 
>>>> actual observations. We must learn and get wiser if we want to 
>>>> progress and this even if having to change or discard established 
>>>> theory. This is what the scientific method is about. Don't be 
>>>> religious about scientific theories (or even about gods). Go for truth.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Ole
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---In [email protected], <nwootan@...> wrote :
>>>>
>>>> See attachments.   Ole, Sweet & Bearden both admitted that they did 
>>>> not know how to capture and utilize the strange form of energy 
>>>> being produced.
>>>>
>>>> On 11/27/2018 7:27 AM, onielsen@... <mailto:onielsen@...> [EVGRAY] 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>     Hi Norman,
>>>>>
>>>>>     I like that. Go for how nature works even if not conventional.
>>>>>     The natural laws written in books are made by humans. Science
>>>>>     is about explaining them the right way even though some
>>>>>     scientists don't do it that way unless specific paid to do it
>>>>>     the intended way. According to transmission line theory the
>>>>>     energy is running in the space between the wires. At least
>>>>>     this holds for good conductors. Even good metallic conductors
>>>>>     like silver have resistance which dissipates the energy.
>>>>>     Superconductors don't have this problem but still have some
>>>>>     max level where they can guide the energy. Where the fields
>>>>>     meet the surface of the conductor the fields are mirrored.
>>>>>     Thus the surface of the conductor has to be a perfect mirror
>>>>>     of the fields to be superconductive.
>>>>>
>>>>>     T.J.J. See formulated it something like the forces at
>>>>>     extremely small distances are extremely great. Or for fields
>>>>>     at extremely thin wires the field intensity is extremely high
>>>>>     which can ionize the air or dielectric to be able to move the
>>>>>     energy. Plasma is also a very good conductor that can have
>>>>>     even negative resistance characteristics from impact
>>>>>     ionization. Thus it takes out energy from the molecules that
>>>>>     are hit by charged particles making even more ions and charged
>>>>>     particles.
>>>>>
>>>>>     I would like to see a replication of Floyd Sweets frosted
>>>>>     wires. He knew about transmission line theory according to his
>>>>>     document 'Nothing is Something' where he refers to Ivor Catt
>>>>>     and W.J. Hooper. His device was also claimed to possess
>>>>>     antigravity just like the device of Alexy Chekurov. A valid
>>>>>     theory must be able to explain such phenomena.
>>>>>
>>>>>     Regards
>>>>>     Ole
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     ---In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>,
>>>>>     <nwootan@...> <mailto:nwootan@...> wrote :
>>>>>
>>>>>     Ole, your quote,( a very penetrating magnetic field) is
>>>>>     precisely what
>>>>>     is described as the Magneto-Electric effect which is totally
>>>>>     inverse to
>>>>>     our conventional Electro-magnetic theory and practice. All of the
>>>>>     conventional electric theory goes out the window when dealing
>>>>>     with a
>>>>>     totally inverted Magneto-Electric event.  It all fits with our
>>>>>     often
>>>>>     observed anomalies such as tremendous currents and voltages
>>>>>     carried over
>>>>>     very small conductors doing fantastic damage in the event. 
>>>>>     This is not
>>>>>     your Dads Oldsmobile.
>>>>>
>>>>>         On 11/27/2018 4:15 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>>         <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>         > a very penetrating magnetic field. 
>>>>>
>>>>