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NormanI made a Van De Graaff generator about five feet high with an 18" steel ball on top.It was steel because at that time I was able to form, and weld steel very easily, as opposed to some other metals. I spun the steel in hemispheres, on the lathe over a laminated wood form, then weld the two halves together, after detailing the method of attachment to the plastic column. I curved the hole in a gentle radius into the inside of tje sphere, having no sharp edges.Surprisingly, this Van De Graaff worked rather well, reliably giving a 14" spark every few seconds.I drove it with a dc shunt wound Bodine motor of 1/10 hpIt just ran a rubber belt between pulleys with wire brushes at either end of the belt. That seems to be the entire load of the motor, under all conditions.Cheers Warren.
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On Wed, 28 Nov 2018 at 1:04 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:
Yeeeeeaaaaaah. I agree for I am serious about the conductive dielectric. Still studying the Felici Hydrogen dielectric Electrostatic Generator. Amazing, for we have a lot to learn.
On 11/28/2018 10:06 AM, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
Norman
Crossing the carpet in your bunny slippers, only to get the shock of your life, touching the door knob? The dielectric, when not moisture sodden, and conductive, becomes alive, as it dries, and rubs against other dielectrics. Lets start saving examples of the phenomenon, we observe. Cheers Warren
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On Wed, 28 Nov 2018 at 6:12 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:
Ole, this is all so correct. I have lived and learned just enough to be dangerous. Lol When I first hand witness an anomalous event in electrical applications, my response is curiosity instead of writing it off as most folks do. A thought that has been popping up in my mind is the definition of reciprocal, https://www.dictionary.com/browse/reciprocal where in conventional theory we have copper or other metals as conductors where as in the opposite (negative energy) the dielectric is the conductor and the metals become the dielectric. Maybe we are looking in the wrong places for our solution. Just a thought. Bearden told me once to think opposite. BTW, Joel & I made a trip to Atlanta, GA in spring of 1995 to demonstrate our MRA device to the Procurement Officer of IBM Corp. and two of his EE engineering. They were blown away with what they saw and we were told that IBM had a blank check for our technology if we could successfully get a Patent. Dr. Bass, Hughes Aircraft was our Patent Attorney. On return trip back to Dallas we stopped at Tom Beardens place in Huntsville, AL and gave him a working MRA device at which time he totally explained his MEG device for which he was assembling a team to do the Patent. Bearden fully explained all that Floyd Sweet had divulged regarding the Negative Energy and the incompatibility in our frame of reference. Thoughts? Norm
On 11/27/2018 7:47 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
Hi Norman,
Sweet refers to Ivor Catt's theory instead of the conventional theory. Here is a searchable version of the 'Nothing is Something' document: http://jnaudin.free.fr/vta/.
Electromagnetism I by Ivor Catt: http://www.ivorcatt.com/em.htm. There's no need for displacement current to explain electromagnetism. Just treat capacitors as transmission lines. Floyd sweet explains that every signal takes time to move between two separate points which prevents the instant propagation of displacement current. Ivor Catt describes capacitors as transmission lines (http://www.ivorcatt.org/icrwiworld78dec1.htm). The signal enters the capacitor foils at a single point (or at two points) and must travel to the edges of the foils making capacitors rolled up or stacked transmission lines with the laws governing transmission lines. Catt is or was controversial when introducing a third theory of transmission lines. The theory describing what happens the most accurate way must be the best one no matter if the old theoreticians like Newton Maxwell or Einstein are treated like gods in scientific circles. Engineers may have personal experience of the phenomena happening when designing devices and thus use whatever theory that can explain the observations no matter what is written in old books. I think this is also why Tesla laughed at the theoreticians because he had his own experiences to draw from while the theoreticians made thought experiments that didn't fit the actual observations. We must learn and get wiser if we want to progress and this even if having to change or discard established theory. This is what the scientific method is about. Don't be religious about scientific theories (or even about gods). Go for truth.
Regards
Ole
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See attachments. Ole, Sweet & Bearden both admitted that they did not know how to capture and utilize the strange form of energy being produced.
On 11/27/2018 7:27 AM, onielsen@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
Hi Norman,
I like that. Go for how nature works even if not conventional. The natural laws written in books are made by humans. Science is about explaining them the right way even though some scientists don't do it that way unless specific paid to do it the intended way. According to transmission line theory the energy is running in the space between the wires. At least this holds for good conductors. Even good metallic conductors like silver have resistance which dissipates the energy. Superconductors don't have this problem but still have some max level where they can guide the energy. Where the fields meet the surface of the conductor the fields are mirrored. Thus the surface of the conductor has to be a perfect mirror of the fields to be superconductive.
T.J.J. See formulated it something like the forces at extremely small distances are extremely great. Or for fields at extremely thin wires the field intensity is extremely high which can ionize the air or dielectric to be able to move the energy. Plasma is also a very good conductor that can have even negative resistance characteristics from impact ionization. Thus it takes out energy from the molecules that are hit by charged particles making even more ions and charged particles.
I would like to see a replication of Floyd Sweets frosted wires. He knew about transmission line theory according to his document 'Nothing is Something' where he refers to Ivor Catt and W.J. Hooper. His device was also claimed to possess antigravity just like the device of Alexy Chekurov. A valid theory must be able to explain such phenomena.
Regards
Ole
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Ole, your quote,( a very penetrating magnetic field) is precisely what
is described as the Magneto-Electric effect which is totally inverse to
our conventional Electro-magnetic theory and practice. All of the
conventional electric theory goes out the window when dealing with a
totally inverted Magneto-Electric event. It all fits with our often
observed anomalies such as tremendous currents and voltages carried over
very small conductors doing fantastic damage in the event. This is not
your Dads Oldsmobile.
On 11/27/2018 4:15 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
> a very penetrating magnetic field.
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