Magnetic flux annihilation-reconnect phenomenon

Shorter than Plank time, good question!
And how does the magneto optic effect break time reversal symmetry 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magneto-optic_effect

Back to basics, magnetism:  http://www.irm.umn.edu/hg2m/hg2m_b/hg2m_b.html

On 1/10/2019 7:21 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> Lets look at the actual make up of the magnetic flux lines. 
> https://van.physics.illinois.edu/qa/listing.php?id=414
>
> https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/30fari/what_is_a_magnetic_field_made_of/   
> Interesting note here  "Take the magnetic field created by the earth
> for example. This field is very big. If virtual photons can travel all
> the way around the field in a time shorter than planck time, aren't
> they moving faster than the speed of light?"   Ah Ha!   Super Light,
> Super luminal velocities.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYA0bntrjsk&feature=youtu.be
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3P-FGw5KUeo&feature=youtu.be
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crfY2vzVMbI&feature=youtu.be
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rst9EcF9ryk&feature=youtu.be
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hk1cOffTgdk&feature=youtu.be   The Best!
>
> On 1/10/2019 4:55 PM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>
>> Thank You, Bert Pool for this new soc.  
>> https://scienceblog.com/505176/scientists-inch-closer-to-fusion-energy-with-discovery-of-a-process-that-stabilizes-plasmas/
>>
>> On 1/10/2019 7:58 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>  
>>>
>>>
>>>   Alfvén wave
>>>
>>> An *Alfvén wave* is a wave that occurs in a plasma
>>> <https://www.plasma-universe.com/Plasma> (or conducting fluid),
>>> resulting from the interaction of the magnetic fields and electric
>>> currents <https://www.plasma-universe.com/Electric_current> within
>>> it, causing an oscillation of the ions. Alfvén wrote in a letter to
>>> the journal /Nature/ in 1942:
>>>
>>>     "If a conducting liquid is placed in a constant magnetic field,
>>>     every motion of the liquid gives rise to an E.M.F. which
>>>     produces electric currents. Owing to the magnetic field, these
>>>     currents give mechanical forces which change the state of motion
>>>     of the liquid. Thus a kind of combined
>>>     electromagnetic-hydrodynamic wave is produced."^[1]
>>>     <https://www.plasma-universe.com/Alfv%C3%A9n_wave#cite_note-alfven1942-1>
>>>
>>>
>>> Alfvén waves initiated the field of magnetohydrodynamics
>>> <https://www.plasma-universe.com/Magnetohydrodynamics> which
>>> subsequently earned Alfvén a Nobel Prize.
>>>
>>> Put some thought behind this statement  "A conductive liquid"!!
>>>
>>> On 1/10/2019 7:41 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannes_Alfv%C3%A9n    Please read
>>>> this mans research and see how he was often rejected by fellow
>>>> physicists.
>>>>
>>>> On 1/10/2019 7:31 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://aa.springer.de/papers/7324002/2300449.pdf   Still
>>>>> researching the importance of the Alfven waves in plasma.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 1/10/2019 6:51 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Moray, Jon Gentry and Warren asked pertinent questions regarding
>>>>>> velocities, magnetic flux etc. in plasma events so I did a search
>>>>>> as to whether Alfven waves have a frequency.  This site pretty
>>>>>> well defines a lot of plasma info that we need.   See: 
>>>>>> https://www.britannica.com/science/plasma-state-of-matter#ref507092
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/10/2019 6:29 AM, Warren Keillor
>>>>>> [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> Norman
>>>>>>> Hooper's work looks very compelling. At his time of
>>>>>>> experimentation, super conductors were not a reality as they are
>>>>>>> now. The fact that a resistance free conductor might accelerate 
>>>>>>> a potential's velocity, after going through a resistor, suggests
>>>>>>> an analogy to fluid dynamics, much like Bernuili's principle
>>>>>>> application of a venturi to gases.
>>>>>>> The idea of dielectric conductors is a mind smasher, inverting
>>>>>>> our entire circuit thoughts.
>>>>>>> Generally, pretty radical concepts, in a zone to set us up for
>>>>>>> quantum physics thinking. Whew!
>>>>>>> Cheers Warren
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 3:17 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected]
>>>>>>>     [EVGRAY]
>>>>>>>     <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Good question Warren!   Nobody really knows how the
>>>>>>>     potential and current manifest in the conductor passing
>>>>>>>     through a flux field. Your question is valid cause there
>>>>>>>     very well may be some sort of reconnect occurring here.
>>>>>>>     Theory was, that the flux field was photon stream which
>>>>>>>     enabled pairing to produce electrons and attending current. 
>>>>>>>     There is still so much that we don't know but things are
>>>>>>>     getting interesting.   Read that last doc that I posted for
>>>>>>>     it is very enlightening on this subject.  See: 
>>>>>>>     http://www.tfcbooks.com/mall/more/temp/x565-hen.htm   This
>>>>>>>     is one of Oles  favorites.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     On 1/9/2019 9:09 AM, Warren Keillor
>>>>>>>     [email protected]
>>>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Norman
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     I wonder if, in a down to earth , practical manner, the
>>>>>>>>     connect/re-connect plays a role in, for instance, the
>>>>>>>>     Kromery, where one slides the magnets at right angles to
>>>>>>>>     their locked together state.
>>>>>>>>     Initially, I need both hands to grasp the flywheel to turn
>>>>>>>>     my Kromery.
>>>>>>>>     Once turning, one finger's friction on the rim, easily
>>>>>>>>     rotates the flywheel, regardless of the load.
>>>>>>>>     Too fast, then eddy currents start warming the magnetic
>>>>>>>>     coil cores.
>>>>>>>>     Are we cutting those magnetic lines?
>>>>>>>>     Cheers Warren
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 9:25 AM, Norman Wootan
>>>>>>>>         [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
>>>>>>>>         <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>          
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         http://young.caltech.edu/Collisionless_Magnetic_Reconnection.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         On 1/9/2019 8:21 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         https://phys.org/news/2017-10-hidden-mechanics-magnetic-field-reconnection.html
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         On 1/9/2019 8:14 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         https://gss.pppl.gov/talks/reconnection%20lecture%201.pdf
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         On 1/9/2019 8:09 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007%2F978-94-009-0545-0_14
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         Recent
>>>>>>>>>>>         Developments
>>>>>>>>>>>         in
>>>>>>>>>>>         the
>>>>>>>>>>>         Theory
>>>>>>>>>>>         of
>>>>>>>>>>>         Magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>         Reconnection
>>>>>>>>>>>         Dieter
>>>>>>>>>>>         Biskamp
>>>>>>>>>>>         Max-Planck-Institut
>>>>>>>>>>>         fiir
>>>>>>>>>>>         Plasmaphysik
>>>>>>>>>>>         8046
>>>>>>>>>>>         Garching
>>>>>>>>>>>         bei
>>>>>>>>>>>         Miinchen,
>>>>>>>>>>>         Federal
>>>>>>>>>>>         Republic
>>>>>>>>>>>         of
>>>>>>>>>>>         Germany
>>>>>>>>>>>         Abstract
>>>>>>>>>>>         The
>>>>>>>>>>>         talk
>>>>>>>>>>>         briefly
>>>>>>>>>>>         reviews
>>>>>>>>>>>         previous
>>>>>>>>>>>         stationary
>>>>>>>>>>>         models,
>>>>>>>>>>>         mainly
>>>>>>>>>>>         configurations
>>>>>>>>>>>         of
>>>>>>>>>>>         the
>>>>>>>>>>>         Petschek
>>>>>>>>>>>         type,
>>>>>>>>>>>         pointing
>>>>>>>>>>>         out
>>>>>>>>>>>         their
>>>>>>>>>>>         shortcomings
>>>>>>>>>>>         and
>>>>>>>>>>>         basic
>>>>>>>>>>>         failure
>>>>>>>>>>>         in
>>>>>>>>>>>         accounting
>>>>>>>>>>>         for
>>>>>>>>>>>         fast
>>>>>>>>>>>         magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>         reconnection
>>>>>>>>>>>         in
>>>>>>>>>>>         the
>>>>>>>>>>>         limit
>>>>>>>>>>>         of
>>>>>>>>>>>         large
>>>>>>>>>>>         magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>         Reynolds
>>>>>>>>>>>         number.
>>>>>>>>>>>         It
>>>>>>>>>>>         is
>>>>>>>>>>>         shown
>>>>>>>>>>>         that
>>>>>>>>>>>         in
>>>>>>>>>>>         this
>>>>>>>>>>>         limit
>>>>>>>>>>>         no
>>>>>>>>>>>         relevant
>>>>>>>>>>>         stationary
>>>>>>>>>>>         states
>>>>>>>>>>>         exist.
>>>>>>>>>>>         Instead
>>>>>>>>>>>         strong
>>>>>>>>>>>         small-scale
>>>>>>>>>>>         MHD
>>>>>>>>>>>         turbulence
>>>>>>>>>>>         develops
>>>>>>>>>>>         even
>>>>>>>>>>>         in
>>>>>>>>>>>         2D
>>>>>>>>>>>         geometry,
>>>>>>>>>>>         giving
>>>>>>>>>>>         rise
>>>>>>>>>>>         to
>>>>>>>>>>>         energy
>>>>>>>>>>>         dissipation
>>>>>>>>>>>         and
>>>>>>>>>>>         reconnection
>>>>>>>>>>>         rates
>>>>>>>>>>>         independent
>>>>>>>>>>>         of
>>>>>>>>>>>         the
>>>>>>>>>>>         value
>>>>>>>>>>>         of
>>>>>>>>>>>         the
>>>>>>>>>>>         collisional
>>>>>>>>>>>         re-
>>>>>>>>>>>         sistivity.
>>>>>>>>>>>         I
>>>>>>>>>>>         Introduction
>>>>>>>>>>>         In
>>>>>>>>>>>         the
>>>>>>>>>>>         last
>>>>>>>>>>>         decade
>>>>>>>>>>>         it
>>>>>>>>>>>         has
>>>>>>>>>>>         been realized
>>>>>>>>>>>         that
>>>>>>>>>>>         the
>>>>>>>>>>>         presence
>>>>>>>>>>>         of
>>>>>>>>>>>         magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>         fields
>>>>>>>>>>>         is
>>>>>>>>>>>         a
>>>>>>>>>>>         ubiquitous
>>>>>>>>>>>         phenomenon
>>>>>>>>>>>         in
>>>>>>>>>>>         cosmic
>>>>>>>>>>>         systems.
>>>>>>>>>>>         On
>>>>>>>>>>>         the
>>>>>>>>>>>         one
>>>>>>>>>>>         hand,
>>>>>>>>>>>         magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>         fields
>>>>>>>>>>>         serve
>>>>>>>>>>>         as
>>>>>>>>>>>         a large
>>>>>>>>>>>         energy
>>>>>>>>>>>         reservoir
>>>>>>>>>>>         which
>>>>>>>>>>>         may
>>>>>>>>>>>         be
>>>>>>>>>>>         tapped
>>>>>>>>>>>         in
>>>>>>>>>>>         a fast
>>>>>>>>>>>         dynamic
>>>>>>>>>>>         process
>>>>>>>>>>>         leading
>>>>>>>>>>>         to
>>>>>>>>>>>         various
>>>>>>>>>>>         kinds
>>>>>>>>>>>         of
>>>>>>>>>>>         explosive
>>>>>>>>>>>         events
>>>>>>>>>>>         such
>>>>>>>>>>>         as
>>>>>>>>>>>         flares.
>>>>>>>>>>>         On
>>>>>>>>>>>         the
>>>>>>>>>>>         other
>>>>>>>>>>>         hand,
>>>>>>>>>>>         magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>         fields
>>>>>>>>>>>         tend
>>>>>>>>>>>         to
>>>>>>>>>>>         be
>>>>>>>>>>>         compressed
>>>>>>>>>>>         in
>>>>>>>>>>>         processes
>>>>>>>>>>>         such
>>>>>>>>>>>         as
>>>>>>>>>>>         protostar
>>>>>>>>>>>         formation
>>>>>>>>>>>         and
>>>>>>>>>>>         are
>>>>>>>>>>>         computed
>>>>>>>>>>>         to
>>>>>>>>>>>         dominate
>>>>>>>>>>>         the
>>>>>>>>>>>         dynamics
>>>>>>>>>>>         in
>>>>>>>>>>>         the
>>>>>>>>>>>         later
>>>>>>>>>>>         phases
>>>>>>>>>>>         in
>>>>>>>>>>>         a nonrealistic
>>>>>>>>>>>         way
>>>>>>>>>>>         if
>>>>>>>>>>>         not
>>>>>>>>>>>         dissipated
>>>>>>>>>>>         sufficiently
>>>>>>>>>>>         fast.
>>>>>>>>>>>         To
>>>>>>>>>>>         account
>>>>>>>>>>>         for
>>>>>>>>>>>         such
>>>>>>>>>>>         processes of
>>>>>>>>>>>         fast
>>>>>>>>>>>         magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>         field
>>>>>>>>>>>         annihilation
>>>>>>>>>>>         is
>>>>>>>>>>>         the
>>>>>>>>>>>         main
>>>>>>>>>>>         objective
>>>>>>>>>>>         of
>>>>>>>>>>>         the
>>>>>>>>>>>         theory
>>>>>>>>>>>         of
>>>>>>>>>>>         magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>         reconnect
>>>>>>>>>>>         ion.
>>>>>>>>>>>         The
>>>>>>>>>>>         term
>>>>>>>>>>>         magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>         reconnect
>>>>>>>>>>>         ion
>>>>>>>>>>>         refers
>>>>>>>>>>>         to
>>>>>>>>>>>         the
>>>>>>>>>>>         picture
>>>>>>>>>>>         of
>>>>>>>>>>>         magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>         field
>>>>>>>>>>>         lines.
>>>>>>>>>>>         These
>>>>>>>>>>>         have
>>>>>>>>>>>         a well-defined
>>>>>>>>>>>         meaning
>>>>>>>>>>>         in
>>>>>>>>>>>         a highly
>>>>>>>>>>>         conducting
>>>>>>>>>>>         fluid,
>>>>>>>>>>>         viz.
>>>>>>>>>>>         thin
>>>>>>>>>>>         magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>         flux
>>>>>>>>>>>         tubes
>>>>>>>>>>>         which
>>>>>>>>>>>         are
>>>>>>>>>>>         carried
>>>>>>>>>>>         along
>>>>>>>>>>>         with
>>>>>>>>>>>         the
>>>>>>>>>>>         fluid,
>>>>>>>>>>>         maintaining
>>>>>>>>>>>         their
>>>>>>>>>>>         individuality,
>>>>>>>>>>>         though
>>>>>>>>>>>         they
>>>>>>>>>>>         may
>>>>>>>>>>>         be
>>>>>>>>>>>         wound
>>>>>>>>>>>         in
>>>>>>>>>>>         a very
>>>>>>>>>>>         complex
>>>>>>>>>>>         manner.
>>>>>>>>>>>         Only
>>>>>>>>>>>         owing
>>>>>>>>>>>         to
>>>>>>>>>>>         finite
>>>>>>>>>>>         electrical
>>>>>>>>>>>         resistivity
>>>>>>>>>>>         or
>>>>>>>>>>>         some
>>>>>>>>>>>         equivalent
>>>>>>>>>>>         process
>>>>>>>>>>>         may
>>>>>>>>>>>         two
>>>>>>>>>>>         field
>>>>>>>>>>>         lines
>>>>>>>>>>>         coming
>>>>>>>>>>>         close
>>>>>>>>>>>         together
>>>>>>>>>>>         lose
>>>>>>>>>>>         their
>>>>>>>>>>>         identities
>>>>>>>>>>>         by
>>>>>>>>>>>         being
>>>>>>>>>>>         cut
>>>>>>>>>>>         and
>>>>>>>>>>>         reconnected
>>>>>>>>>>>         in
>>>>>>>>>>>         a different
>>>>>>>>>>>         way.
>>>>>>>>>>>         Though
>>>>>>>>>>>         this
>>>>>>>>>>>         is
>>>>>>>>>>>         a local
>>>>>>>>>>>         process,
>>>>>>>>>>>         it
>>>>>>>>>>>         leads
>>>>>>>>>>>         to
>>>>>>>>>>>         a change
>>>>>>>>>>>         of
>>>>>>>>>>>         field
>>>>>>>>>>>         topology
>>>>>>>>>>>         permitting
>>>>>>>>>>>         new
>>>>>>>>>>>         types
>>>>>>>>>>>         of
>>>>>>>>>>>         large-scale
>>>>>>>>>>>         plasma
>>>>>>>>>>>         motions
>>>>>>>>>>>         that
>>>>>>>>>>>         would
>>>>>>>>>>>         otherwise
>>>>>>>>>>>         be
>>>>>>>>>>>         inhibited.
>>>>>>>>>>>         The
>>>>>>>>>>>         255
>>>>>>>>>>>         w.
>>>>>>>>>>>         BrinbMnn
>>>>>>>>>>>         et
>>>>>>>>>>>         al.
>>>>>>>>>>>         (eds.J,
>>>>>>>>>>>         Physical
>>>>>>>>>>>         Processes
>>>>>>>>>>>         in
>>>>>>>>>>>         Hot
>>>>>>>>>>>         Cosmic
>>>>>>>>>>>         PlIlsmas,
>>>>>>>>>>>         255-269.
>>>>>>>>>>>         e
>>>>>>>>>>>         1990
>>>>>>>>>>>         Kluwer
>>>>>>>>>>>         Academic
>>>>>>>>>>>         Publishers.
>>>>>>>>>>>         256
>>>>>>>>>>>         change
>>>>>>>>>>>         of
>>>>>>>>>>>         the
>>>>>>>>>>>         magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>         field
>>>>>>>>>>>         is described
>>>>>>>>>>>         by
>>>>>>>>>>>         Faraday's
>>>>>>>>>>>         law:
>>>>>>>>>>>         oB
>>>>>>>>>>>         (
>>>>>>>>>>>         ...
>>>>>>>>>>>         )
>>>>>>>>>>>         2'"
>>>>>>>>>>>         7it=VX
>>>>>>>>>>>         iixB
>>>>>>>>>>>         +
>>>>>>>>>>>         'IV
>>>>>>>>>>>         B.
>>>>>>>>>>>         (1)
>>>>>>>>>>>         Here
>>>>>>>>>>>         the
>>>>>>>>>>>         ratio
>>>>>>>>>>>         of
>>>>>>>>>>>         the
>>>>>>>>>>>         diffusion
>>>>>>>>>>>         term
>>>>>>>>>>>         and
>>>>>>>>>>>         the
>>>>>>>>>>>         convection
>>>>>>>>>>>         term
>>>>>>>>>>>         (2)
>>>>>>>>>>>         is
>>>>>>>>>>>         a convenient
>>>>>>>>>>>         dimensionless
>>>>>>>>>>>         measure
>>>>>>>>>>>         of
>>>>>>>>>>>         the
>>>>>>>>>>>         resistivity,
>>>>>>>>>>>         Rm
>>>>>>>>>>>         being
>>>>>>>>>>>         the
>>>>>>>>>>>         magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>         Reynolds
>>>>>>>>>>>         number.
>>>>>>>>>>>         In
>>>>>>>>>>>         practically
>>>>>>>>>>>         all
>>>>>>>>>>>         astrophysical
>>>>>>>>>>>         plasmas
>>>>>>>>>>>         Rm
>>>>>>>>>>>         is large,
>>>>>>>>>>>         essentially
>>>>>>>>>>>         because
>>>>>>>>>>>         of
>>>>>>>>>>>         the
>>>>>>>>>>>         large
>>>>>>>>>>>         scales
>>>>>>>>>>>         L.
>>>>>>>>>>>         Hence
>>>>>>>>>>>         magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>         diffusion
>>>>>>>>>>>         is
>>>>>>>>>>>         in
>>>>>>>>>>>         general
>>>>>>>>>>>         a very
>>>>>>>>>>>         weak
>>>>>>>>>>>         process.
>>>>>>>>>>>         Magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>         processes
>>>>>>>>>>>         such
>>>>>>>>>>>         as
>>>>>>>>>>>         solar
>>>>>>>>>>>         flares,
>>>>>>>>>>>         however,
>>>>>>>>>>>         seem
>>>>>>>>>>>         to
>>>>>>>>>>>         require
>>>>>>>>>>>         fast
>>>>>>>>>>>         reconnection
>>>>>>>>>>>         with
>>>>>>>>>>>         time
>>>>>>>>>>>         scales
>>>>>>>>>>>         practically
>>>>>>>>>>>         independent
>>>>>>>>>>>         of
>>>>>>>>>>>         Rm.
>>>>>>>>>>>         The
>>>>>>>>>>>         main
>>>>>>>>>>>         theoretical
>>>>>>>>>>>         problem
>>>>>>>>>>>         therefore
>>>>>>>>>>>         is
>>>>>>>>>>>         to
>>>>>>>>>>>         find
>>>>>>>>>>>         models
>>>>>>>>>>>         allowing
>>>>>>>>>>>         sufficiently
>>>>>>>>>>>         high
>>>>>>>>>>>         reconnect
>>>>>>>>>>>         ion
>>>>>>>>>>>         rates.
>>>>>>>>>>>         Fast
>>>>>>>>>>>         reconnection
>>>>>>>>>>>         is
>>>>>>>>>>>         not
>>>>>>>>>>>         a diffuse
>>>>>>>>>>>         process,
>>>>>>>>>>>         but
>>>>>>>>>>>         is
>>>>>>>>>>>         strongly
>>>>>>>>>>>         localized
>>>>>>>>>>>         in
>>>>>>>>>>>         current
>>>>>>>>>>>         sheets.
>>>>>>>>>>>         Such
>>>>>>>>>>>         current
>>>>>>>>>>>         sheets
>>>>>>>>>>>         may
>>>>>>>>>>>         arise
>>>>>>>>>>>         at
>>>>>>>>>>>         any
>>>>>>>>>>>         point
>>>>>>>>>>>         with
>>>>>>>>>>>         non-vanishing
>>>>>>>>>>>         magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>         shear
>>>>>>>>>>>         and
>>>>>>>>>>>         a velocity
>>>>>>>>>>>         gradient
>>>>>>>>>>>         along
>>>>>>>>>>>         the
>>>>>>>>>>>         direction
>>>>>>>>>>>         of
>>>>>>>>>>>         the
>>>>>>>>>>>         shear
>>>>>>>>>>>         perpendicular
>>>>>>>>>>>         to
>>>>>>>>>>>         the
>>>>>>>>>>>         field,
>>>>>>>>>>>         i.e.
>>>>>>>>>>>         virtually
>>>>>>>>>>>         everywhere
>>>>>>>>>>>         in
>>>>>>>>>>>         the
>>>>>>>>>>>         plasma,
>>>>>>>>>>>         as
>>>>>>>>>>>         visualized
>>>>>>>>>>>         in
>>>>>>>>>>>         Fig.
>>>>>>>>>>>         1.
>>>>>>>>>>>         The
>>>>>>>>>>>         simplest
>>>>>>>>>>>         models
>>>>>>>>>>>         are
>>>>>>>>>>>         quasi-stationary
>>>>>>>>>>>         configurations
>>>>>>>>>>>         with
>>>>>>>>>>>         one
>>>>>>>>>>>         current
>>>>>>>>>>>         sheet
>>>>>>>>>>>         at
>>>>>>>>>>>         a well
>>>>>>>>>>>         defined
>>>>>>>>>>>         location
>>>>>>>>>>>         determined
>>>>>>>>>>>         by
>>>>>>>>>>>         the
>>>>>>>>>>>         overall
>>>>>>>>>>>         geometry,
>>>>>>>>>>>         which
>>>>>>>>>>>         have
>>>>>>>>>>>         been
>>>>>>>>>>>         investigated
>>>>>>>>>>>         in
>>>>>>>>>>>         the
>>>>>>>>>>>         conventional
>>>>>>>>>>>         theory
>>>>>>>>>>>         of
>>>>>>>>>>>         magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>         reconnection.
>>>>>>>>>>>         The
>>>>>>>>>>>         basic
>>>>>>>>>>>         assumption
>>>>>>>>>>>         in
>>>>>>>>>>>         these
>>>>>>>>>>>         theoretical
>>>>>>>>>>>         approaches is
>>>>>>>>>>>         the
>>>>>>>>>>>         existence
>>>>>>>>>>>         of
>>>>>>>>>>>         a two-dimensional
>>>>>>>>>>>         subsystem
>>>>>>>>>>>         around
>>>>>>>>>>>         an
>>>>>>>>>>>         X-type
>>>>>>>>>>>         magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>         neutral
>>>>>>>>>>>         point
>>>>>>>>>>>         which
>>>>>>>>>>>         is
>>>>>>>>>>>         small
>>>>>>>>>>>         compared
>>>>>>>>>>>         with
>>>>>>>>>>>         the
>>>>>>>>>>>         global
>>>>>>>>>>>         magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>         configuration
>>>>>>>>>>>         but
>>>>>>>>>>>         large
>>>>>>>>>>>         compared
>>>>>>>>>>>         with
>>>>>>>>>>>         the
>>>>>>>>>>>         so-called
>>>>>>>>>>>         diffusion
>>>>>>>>>>>         region
>>>>>>>>>>>         around
>>>>>>>>>>>         the
>>>>>>>>>>>         neutral
>>>>>>>>>>>         point,
>>>>>>>>>>>         where
>>>>>>>>>>>         the
>>>>>>>>>>>         diffusion
>>>>>>>>>>>         term
>>>>>>>>>>>         in
>>>>>>>>>>>         (1)
>>>>>>>>>>>         is
>>>>>>>>>>>         important.
>>>>>>>>>>>         In
>>>>>>>>>>>         this
>>>>>>>>>>>         subsystem
>>>>>>>>>>>         conditions
>>>>>>>>>>>         would
>>>>>>>>>>>         rapidly
>>>>>>>>>>>         adjust
>>>>>>>>>>>         to
>>>>>>>>>>>         changes
>>>>>>>>>>>         in
>>>>>>>>>>>         the
>>>>>>>>>>>         global
>>>>>>>>>>>         configuration,
>>>>>>>>>>>         so
>>>>>>>>>>>         that
>>>>>>>>>>>         the
>>>>>>>>>>>         evolution
>>>>>>>>>>>         of
>>>>>>>>>>>         the
>>>>>>>>>>>         latter
>>>>>>>>>>>         would
>>>>>>>>>>>         correspond
>>>>>>>>>>>         to
>>>>>>>>>>>         a sequence
>>>>>>>>>>>         of
>>>>>>>>>>>         stationary
>>>>>>>>>>>         states
>>>>>>>>>>>         in
>>>>>>>>>>>         the
>>>>>>>>>>>         former
>>>>>>>>>>>         which
>>>>>>>>>>>         are
>>>>>>>>>>>         steady-state
>>>>>>>>>>>         solutions
>>>>>>>>>>>         with
>>>>>>>>>>>         the
>>>>>>>>>>>         boundary
>>>>>>>>>>>         conditions
>>>>>>>>>>>         determined
>>>>>>>>>>>         by
>>>>>>>>>>>         the
>>>>>>>>>>>         global
>>>>>>>>>>>         system.
>>>>>>>>>>>         This
>>>>>>>>>>>         is
>>>>>>>>>>>         the
>>>>>>>>>>>         idea
>>>>>>>>>>>         of
>>>>>>>>>>>         stationary
>>>>>>>>>>>         forced
>>>>>>>>>>>         reconnection.
>>>>>>>>>>>         The
>>>>>>>>>>>         prototype
>>>>>>>>>>>         of
>>>>>>>>>>>         such
>>>>>>>>>>>         configurations
>>>>>>>>>>>         is Petschek's
>>>>>>>>>>>         reconnection
>>>>>>>>>>>         model
>>>>>>>>>>>         1),
>>>>>>>>>>>         which
>>>>>>>>>>>         is given
>>>>>>>>>>>         schematically
>>>>>>>>>>>         in
>>>>>>>>>>>         Fig.
>>>>>>>>>>>         2.
>>>>>>>>>>>         In
>>>>>>>>>>>         fact,
>>>>>>>>>>>         much
>>>>>>>>>>>         of
>>>>>>>>>>>         the
>>>>>>>>>>>         theoretical
>>>>>>>>>>>         work
>>>>>>>>>>>         on
>>>>>>>>>>>         magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>         reconnection
>>>>>>>>>>>         2
>>>>>>>>>>>         ),3)
>>>>>>>>>>>         consists
>>>>>>>>>>>         of
>>>>>>>>>>>         modifications
>>>>>>>>>>>         and
>>>>>>>>>>>         refinements
>>>>>>>>>>>         of
>>>>>>>>>>>         this
>>>>>>>>>>>         model.
>>>>>>>>>>>         The
>>>>>>>>>>>         theory
>>>>>>>>>>>         is based
>>>>>>>>>>>         on
>>>>>>>>>>>         the
>>>>>>>>>>>         effect
>>>>>>>>>>>         that
>>>>>>>>>>>         the
>>>>>>>>>>>         motion
>>>>>>>>>>>         of
>>>>>>>>>>>         a plasma
>>>>>>>>>>>         may
>>>>>>>>>>>         be
>>>>>>>>>>>         supersonic
>>>>>>>>>>>         at
>>>>>>>>>>>         arbitrarily
>>>>>>>>>>>         low
>>>>>>>>>>>         speed
>>>>>>>>>>>         with
>>>>>>>>>>>         respect
>>>>>>>>>>>         to
>>>>>>>>>>>         the
>>>>>>>>>>>         slow
>>>>>>>>>>>         mode
>>>>>>>>>>>         . Hence,
>>>>>>>>>>>         by
>>>>>>>>>>>         analogy
>>>>>>>>>>>         with
>>>>>>>>>>>         a system
>>>>>>>>>>>         of
>>>>>>>>>>>         two
>>>>>>>>>>>         supersonic
>>>>>>>>>>>         gas
>>>>>>>>>>>         jets
>>>>>>>>
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MickYup! I can do that. Just make sure its empty. Oh! The sacrifice to science!Cheers Warren

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  On Thu, 10 Jan 2019 at 4:05 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
 

Another metaphor, it is like compressing the ends of a beercan  and the center bulges and expands at 90 degrees tangent to the compression force.
 
 On 1/10/2019 9:06 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
 
 
Yes!  The transverse wave gives the pinch, compression that drives the anti-parallel flux annihilation, reconnect.
 
Illustration:  
 On 1/10/2019 7:47 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
Norm,
 
 As far as a rudimentary frequency:
 
 Looks to me it's like strumming a guitar string, depending on which
 string, as depending on the ions and density of the plasma as a
 secondary reaction vis a vis frequency.  Nothing much on the primary
 magnetic flux besides Alven wave velocity and time.    I guess it's akin
 to throwing a permanent magnet towards some wires...  The Alvin is
 longitudinal and the frequency reaction is transverse.
 
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfv%C3%A9n_wave
 
 On 1/10/2019 7:51 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
 > Alfven waves
 
 
  
  
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Hi Norman,

When looking at a weather map showing the air pressure wind speed or temperature as field lines does that really mean that air is made up of field lines or just being some mathematical construct? What if the air is made up of small particles only connected when bouncing into each other. The particles then could transfer forces just like electric and magnetic fields or gravitational fields. T.J.J. See (https://wiki2.org/en/Thomas_Jefferson_Jackson_See https://wiki2.org/en/Thomas_Jefferson_Jackson_See) and C.A. Bjérknes (https://wiki2.org/en/Carl_Anton_Bjerknes https://wiki2.org/en/Carl_Anton_Bjerknes) demonstrated that the same laws applied no matter what medium was used and thus concluded that there must be some aether behaving like gases or liquids. The same conclusion is made by the Rhythmodynamics theory: http://mirit.ru/rd_2007en.htm http://mirit.ru/rd_2007en.htm.

Even gravity is united into those kind of theories but still missing in classical electromagnetism. Here is a video showing levitating objects using sound waves in air: Present: "Levitation in a Sound Standing Wave" (11 khz): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIi5tUupH9c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIi5tUupH9c  (3:35). Even though the sound waves may be described by using field lines I don't see this really describing air or sound as being made of field lines. It's just a mathematical construct that can be broken down to something even smaller. Field lines are very useful in describing a field except when the field lines become discontinuous at some intersections.

"https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/30fari/what_is_a_magnetic_field_made_of/ https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/30fari/what_is_a_magnetic_field_made_of/    Interesting note here  "Take the magnetic field created by the earth for example. This field is very big. If virtual photons can travel all the way around the field in a time shorter than planck time, aren't they moving faster than the speed of light?"   Ah Ha!   Super Light, Super luminal velocities."
This may actually be the case. W.B. Smith couldn't measure any delay in the propagation of his tensor beam. His theory tells that it carries time along with its length and thus is at the same time along its length. What is considered empty space by most of science actually has the physical constants of permittivity of vacuum and permeability of vacuum as if there is still something physical there? The theories that take this into account are probably more correct than the ones dismissing such facts. According to the theory of Rhythmodynamics there are different modes of wave propagation like longitudinal waves behaving like transverse waves at some distance from the emitters which could be why light and other electromagnetic waves are seen as transverse electromagnetic waves.

We may be living in several different densities that propagates signals at each their own speed. Glass water air and vacuum have each their own density and speed of propagating electromagnetic waves. Perhaps there are even less densities than the ones we know. John W. Keely claimed that this is the case.

Regards
Ole


 

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 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4gCTmlm5RQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4gCTmlm5RQ

 On 1/10/2019 6:21 PM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... mailto:nwootan@... [EVGRAY] wrote:

   
 Lets look at the actual make up of the magnetic flux lines.  https://van.physics.illinois.edu/qa/listing.php?id=414 https://van.physics.illinois.edu/qa/listing.php?id=414
 https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/30fari/what_is_a_magnetic_field_made_of/ https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/30fari/what_is_a_magnetic_field_made_of/    Interesting note here  "Take the magnetic field created by the earth for example. This field is very big. If virtual photons can travel all the way around the field in a time shorter than planck time, aren't they moving faster than the speed of light?"   Ah Ha!   Super Light, Super luminal velocities.
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYA0bntrjsk&feature=youtu.be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYA0bntrjsk&feature=youtu.be
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3P-FGw5KUeo&feature=youtu.be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3P-FGw5KUeo&feature=youtu.be
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crfY2vzVMbI&feature=youtu.be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crfY2vzVMbI&feature=youtu.be
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rst9EcF9ryk&feature=youtu.be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rst9EcF9ryk&feature=youtu.be
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hk1cOffTgdk&feature=youtu.be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hk1cOffTgdk&feature=youtu.be   The Best!

 On 1/10/2019 4:55 PM, Norman Wootan wrote:

 Thank You, Bert Pool for this new soc.   https://scienceblog.com/505176/scientists-inch-closer-to-fusion-energy-with-discovery-of-a-process-that-stabilizes-plasmas/ https://scienceblog.com/505176/scientists-inch-closer-to-fusion-energy-with-discovery-of-a-process-that-stabilizes-plasmas/

 On 1/10/2019 7:58 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... mailto:nwootan@... [EVGRAY] wrote:

   
 Alfvén wave 
 An Alfvén wave is a wave that occurs in a plasma https://www.plasma-universe.com/Plasma (or conducting fluid), resulting from the interaction of the magnetic fields and electric currents within it, causing an oscillation of the ions. Alfvén wrote in a letter to the journal Nature in 1942:
 "If a conducting liquid is placed in a constant magnetic field, every motion of the liquid gives rise to an E.M.F. which produces electric currents. Owing to the magnetic field, these currents give mechanical forces which change the state of motion of the liquid. Thus a kind of combined electromagnetic-hydrodynamic wave is produced."[1] https://www.plasma-universe.com/Alfv%C3%A9n_wave#cite_note-alfven1942-1 Alfvén waves initiated the field of magnetohydrodynamics https://www.plasma-universe.com/Magnetohydrodynamics which subsequently earned Alfvén a Nobel Prize. 

 Put some thought behind this statement  "A conductive liquid"!!

 On 1/10/2019 7:41 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannes_Alfv%C3%A9n https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannes_Alfv%C3%A9n    Please read this mans research and see how he was often rejected by fellow physicists.

 On 1/10/2019 7:31 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:

 http://aa.springer.de/papers/7324002/2300449.pdf http://aa.springer.de/papers/7324002/2300449.pdf   Still researching the importance of the Alfven waves in plasma.

 On 1/10/2019 6:51 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:

 Moray, Jon Gentry and Warren asked pertinent questions regarding velocities, magnetic flux etc. in plasma events so I did a search as to whether Alfven waves have a frequency.  This site pretty well defines a lot of plasma info that we need.   See:  https://www.britannica.com/science/plasma-state-of-matter#ref507092 https://www.britannica.com/science/plasma-state-of-matter#ref507092

 On 1/10/2019 6:29 AM, Warren Keillor schoonersolsticemoon@... mailto:schoonersolsticemoon@... [EVGRAY] wrote:

   Norman Hooper's work looks very compelling. At his time of experimentation, super conductors were not a reality as they are now. The fact that a resistance free conductor might accelerate  a potential's velocity, after going through a resistor, suggests an analogy to fluid dynamics, much like Bernuili's principle application of a venturi to gases.
 The idea of dielectric conductors is a mind smasher, inverting our entire circuit thoughts.
 Generally, pretty radical concepts, in a zone to set us up for quantum physics thinking. Whew!
 Cheers Warren
 
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 On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 3:17 PM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... mailto:nwootan@... [EVGRAY]
 <[email protected]> mailto:[email protected] wrote:

   
 Good question Warren!   Nobody really knows how the potential and current manifest in the conductor passing through a flux field. Your question is valid cause there very well may be some sort of reconnect occurring here. Theory was, that the flux field was photon stream which enabled pairing to produce electrons and attending current.  There is still so much that we don't know but things are getting interesting.   Read that last doc that I posted for it is very enlightening on this subject.  See:  http://www.tfcbooks.com/mall/more/temp/x565-hen.htm http://www.tfcbooks.com/mall/more/temp/x565-hen.htm   This is one of Oles  favorites.

 On 1/9/2019 9:09 AM, Warren Keillor schoonersolsticemoon@... mailto:schoonersolsticemoon@... [EVGRAY] wrote:

   Norman
 I wonder if, in a down to earth , practical manner, the connect/re-connect plays a role in, for instance, the Kromery, where one slides the magnets at right angles to their locked together state.
 Initially, I need both hands to grasp the flywheel to turn my Kromery.
 Once turning, one finger's friction on the rim, easily rotates the flywheel, regardless of the load.
 Too fast, then eddy currents start warming the magnetic coil cores.
 Are we cutting those magnetic lines?
 Cheers Warren
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 On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 9:25 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... mailto:nwootan@... [EVGRAY]
 <[email protected]> mailto:[email protected] wrote:

   
 http://young.caltech.edu/Collisionless_Magnetic_Reconnection.html http://young.caltech.edu/Collisionless_Magnetic_Reconnection.html

 On 1/9/2019 8:21 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:

 https://phys.org/news/2017-10-hidden-mechanics-magnetic-field-reconnection.html https://phys.org/news/2017-10-hidden-mechanics-magnetic-field-reconnection.html

 On 1/9/2019 8:14 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:

 https://gss.pppl.gov/talks/reconnection%20lecture%201.pdf https://gss.pppl.gov/talks/reconnection%20lecture%201.pdf

 On 1/9/2019 8:09 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:

 
 



 

 




 
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Ok! folks, Ole has brought up a very interesting point when comparing 
the air mass, weather and the phenomenon of levitation, anti-gravity 
etc. Something that I have been wanting to bring up but the subject is a 
little far out of the mainstream thinking.  Lets look at a profound 
statement here:


Alfven quote:"If a conducting liquid is placed in a constant magnetic 
field, every motion of the liquid gives rise to an E.M.F. which produces 
electric currents. Owing to the magnetic field, these currents give 
mechanical forces which change the state of motion of the liquid. Thus a 
kind of combined electromagnetic-hydrodynamic wave is produced.^"

^

^

^Back when I posted the articles on electrostatic generators, I had 
stated that the 9th grade Science Class explanation for the source of 
the electrons was believed to be a shearing from the air as the device 
rotated, example Wimshurst Machine. WRONG.  I gave you the example of 
the Felici Electrostatic Generator 
http://u2.lege.net/newebmasters.com__freeenergy/external_links_from_theverylastpageoftheinternet.com/highvoltage/HVgenerator/HVgenerator.htm 
Here we have a device that uses pure hydrogen gas at 30 bar pressure as 
the operating media and produces 2.5 KW at 300KV.   CERN is operating an 
electrostatic generator that has a deep vacuum as the operating media. 
??   Ole's example of air is interesting for we have discussed tornadoes 
and how we observe Anti-gravitic phenomenon at the vortex base due to 
the  counter  rotating, vortex-anti vortex eddy currents in which we get 
the Alfven example of Electromagnetic-hydrodynamics.  We see this same 
example in the Sonodiffuser with the production of the micro cavitation 
production of vortex-counter vortex producing the photon burst.     Air 
when ionized is a highly conductive fluid as is water.


^

^With a background education in Aerodynamics, I studied the subject as 
thoroughly as possible an came away with a different Theory.  See: 
https://www.mpoweruk.com/flight_theory.htm.    Bernoulli's Principle and 
Newton's Law of motion do not complete the puzzle.  In wind tunnel 
testing of airfoils, little turfs of string are attached at thousands of 
points on the upper, lift producing areas of the wing. There is clear 
evidence that micro vertices are produced along with the counter 
vertices and we get a gross production of the anti-gravitic effects as 
we see in the tornado example.  See, I told you that this fly's way 
outside of mainstream thinking.   The more we examine the evidence, new 
conclusions spring forth.   Thank You Ole for your question opens a 
whole new approach into all thing that perturb the Aether.

On 1/10/2019 8:40 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Hi Norman,
>
> When looking at a weather map showing the air pressure wind speed or 
> temperature as field lines does that really mean that air is made up 
> of field lines or just being some mathematical construct? What if the 
> air is made up of small particles only connected when bouncing into 
> each other. The particles then could transfer forces just like 
> electric and magnetic fields or gravitational fields. T.J.J. See 
> (https://wiki2.org/en/Thomas_Jefferson_Jackson_See) and C.A. Bjérknes 
> (https://wiki2.org/en/Carl_Anton_Bjerknes) demonstrated that the same 
> laws applied no matter what medium was used and thus concluded that 
> there must be some aether behaving like gases or liquids. The same 
> conclusion is made by the Rhythmodynamics theory: 
> http://mirit.ru/rd_2007en.htm.
>
> Even gravity is united into those kind of theories but still missing 
> in classical electromagnetism. Here is a video showing levitating 
> objects using sound waves in air: Present: "Levitation in a Sound 
> Standing Wave" (11 khz): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIi5tUupH9c 
> (3:35). Even though the sound waves may be described by using field 
> lines I don't see this really describing air or sound as being made of 
> field lines. It's just a mathematical construct that can be broken 
> down to something even smaller. Field lines are very useful in 
> describing a field except when the field lines become discontinuous at 
> some intersections.
>
> "https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/30fari/what_is_a_magnetic_field_made_of/ 
> Interesting note here  "Take the magnetic field created by the earth 
> for example. This field is very big. If virtual photons can travel all 
> the way around the field in a time shorter than planck time, aren't 
> they moving faster than the speed of light?"   Ah Ha!   Super Light, 
> Super luminal velocities."
> This may actually be the case. W.B. Smith couldn't measure any delay 
> in the propagation of his tensor beam. His theory tells that it 
> carries time along with its length and thus is at the same time along 
> its length. What is considered empty space by most of science actually 
> has the physical constants of permittivity of vacuum and permeability 
> of vacuum as if there is still something physical there? The theories 
> that take this into account are probably more correct than the ones 
> dismissing such facts. According to the theory of Rhythmodynamics 
> there are different modes of wave propagation like longitudinal waves 
> behaving like transverse waves at some distance from the emitters 
> which could be why light and other electromagnetic waves are seen as 
> transverse electromagnetic waves.
>
> We may be living in several different densities that propagates 
> signals at each their own speed. Glass water air and vacuum have each 
> their own density and speed of propagating electromagnetic waves. 
> Perhaps there are even less densities than the ones we know. John W. 
> Keely claimed that this is the case.
>
> Regards
> Ole
>
>
>
>
> ---In [email protected], <nwootan@...> wrote :
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4gCTmlm5RQ
>
> On 1/10/2019 6:21 PM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... <mailto:nwootan@...> 
> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
>>     Lets look at the actual make up of the magnetic flux lines.
>>     https://van.physics.illinois.edu/qa/listing.php?id=414
>>
>>     https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/30fari/what_is_a_magnetic_field_made_of/
>>     Interesting note here  "Take the magnetic field created by the
>>     earth for example. This field is very big. If virtual photons can
>>     travel all the way around the field in a time shorter than planck
>>     time, aren't they moving faster than the speed of light?"   Ah
>>     Ha!   Super Light, Super luminal velocities.
>>
>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYA0bntrjsk&feature=youtu.be
>>
>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3P-FGw5KUeo&feature=youtu.be
>>
>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crfY2vzVMbI&feature=youtu.be
>>
>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rst9EcF9ryk&feature=youtu.be
>>
>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hk1cOffTgdk&feature=youtu.be The
>>     Best!
>>
>>     On 1/10/2019 4:55 PM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>
>>>     Thank You, Bert Pool for this new soc.
>>>     https://scienceblog.com/505176/scientists-inch-closer-to-fusion-energy-with-discovery-of-a-process-that-stabilizes-plasmas/
>>>
>>>     On 1/10/2019 7:58 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>     <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>       Alfvén wave
>>>>
>>>>     An *Alfvén wave* is a wave that occurs in a plasma
>>>>     <https://www.plasma-universe.com/Plasma> (or conducting fluid),
>>>>     resulting from the interaction of the magnetic fields and
>>>>     electric currents
>>>>     <https://www.plasma-universe.com/Electric_current> within it,
>>>>     causing an oscillation of the ions. Alfvén wrote in a letter to
>>>>     the journal /Nature/ in 1942:
>>>>
>>>>         "If a conducting liquid is placed in a constant magnetic
>>>>         field, every motion of the liquid gives rise to an E.M.F.
>>>>         which produces electric currents. Owing to the magnetic
>>>>         field, these currents give mechanical forces which change
>>>>         the state of motion of the liquid. Thus a kind of combined
>>>>         electromagnetic-hydrodynamic wave is produced."^[1]
>>>>         <https://www.plasma-universe.com/Alfv%C3%A9n_wave#cite_note-alfven1942-1>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     Alfvén waves initiated the field of magnetohydrodynamics
>>>>     <https://www.plasma-universe.com/Magnetohydrodynamics> which
>>>>     subsequently earned Alfvén a Nobel Prize.
>>>>
>>>>     Put some thought behind this statement "A conductive liquid"!!
>>>>
>>>>     On 1/10/2019 7:41 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannes_Alfv%C3%A9n Please read
>>>>>     this mans research and see how he was often rejected by fellow
>>>>>     physicists.
>>>>>
>>>>>     On 1/10/2019 7:31 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     http://aa.springer.de/papers/7324002/2300449.pdf Still
>>>>>>     researching the importance of the Alfven waves in plasma.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     On 1/10/2019 6:51 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Moray, Jon Gentry and Warren asked pertinent questions
>>>>>>>     regarding velocities, magnetic flux etc. in plasma events so
>>>>>>>     I did a search as to whether Alfven waves have a frequency. 
>>>>>>>     This site pretty well defines a lot of plasma info that we
>>>>>>>     need.   See:
>>>>>>>     https://www.britannica.com/science/plasma-state-of-matter#ref507092
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     On 1/10/2019 6:29 AM, Warren Keillor
>>>>>>>     schoonersolsticemoon@... <mailto:schoonersolsticemoon@...>
>>>>>>>     [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>     Norman
>>>>>>>>     Hooper's work looks very compelling. At his time of
>>>>>>>>     experimentation, super conductors were not a reality as
>>>>>>>>     they are now. The fact that a resistance free conductor
>>>>>>>>     might accelerate  a potential's velocity, after going
>>>>>>>>     through a resistor, suggests an analogy to fluid dynamics,
>>>>>>>>     much like Bernuili's principle application of a venturi to
>>>>>>>>     gases.
>>>>>>>>     The idea of dielectric conductors is a mind smasher,
>>>>>>>>     inverting our entire circuit thoughts.
>>>>>>>>     Generally, pretty radical concepts, in a zone to set us up
>>>>>>>>     for quantum physics thinking. Whew!
>>>>>>>>     Cheers Warren
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>>>>>>>     <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 3:17 PM, Norman Wootan
>>>>>>>>         nwootan@... <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY]
>>>>>>>>         <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         Good question Warren! Nobody really knows how the
>>>>>>>>         potential and current manifest in the conductor passing
>>>>>>>>         through a flux field. Your question is valid cause
>>>>>>>>         there very well may be some sort of reconnect occurring
>>>>>>>>         here. Theory was, that the flux field was photon stream
>>>>>>>>         which enabled pairing to produce electrons and
>>>>>>>>         attending current. There is still so much that we don't
>>>>>>>>         know but things are getting interesting. Read that last
>>>>>>>>         doc that I posted for it is very enlightening on this
>>>>>>>>         subject. See:
>>>>>>>>         http://www.tfcbooks.com/mall/more/temp/x565-hen.htm
>>>>>>>>         This is one of Oles favorites.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         On 1/9/2019 9:09 AM, Warren Keillor
>>>>>>>>         schoonersolsticemoon@...
>>>>>>>>         <mailto:schoonersolsticemoon@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         Norman
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         I wonder if, in a down to earth , practical manner,
>>>>>>>>>         the connect/re-connect plays a role in, for instance,
>>>>>>>>>         the Kromery, where one slides the magnets at right
>>>>>>>>>         angles to their locked together state.
>>>>>>>>>         Initially, I need both hands to grasp the flywheel to
>>>>>>>>>         turn my Kromery.
>>>>>>>>>         Once turning, one finger's friction on the rim, easily
>>>>>>>>>         rotates the flywheel, regardless of the load.
>>>>>>>>>         Too fast, then eddy currents start warming the
>>>>>>>>>         magnetic coil cores.
>>>>>>>>>         Are we cutting those magnetic lines?
>>>>>>>>>         Cheers Warren
>>>>>>>>>         Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>>>>>>>>         <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 9:25 AM, Norman Wootan
>>>>>>>>>             nwootan@... <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY]
>>>>>>>>>             <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>             <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             http://young.caltech.edu/Collisionless_Magnetic_Reconnection.html
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             On 1/9/2019 8:21 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>             https://phys.org/news/2017-10-hidden-mechanics-magnetic-field-reconnection.html
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>             On 1/9/2019 8:14 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>             https://gss.pppl.gov/talks/reconnection%20lecture%201.pdf
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>             On 1/9/2019 8:09 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>             https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007%2F978-94-009-0545-0_14
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>             Recent
>>>>>>>>>>>>             Developments
>>>>>>>>>>>>             in
>>>>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>>>>             Theory
>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>             Magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>>             Reconnection
>>>>>>>>>>>>             Dieter
>>>>>>>>>>>>             Biskamp
>>>>>>>>>>>>             Max-Planck-Institut
>>>>>>>>>>>>             fiir
>>>>>>>>>>>>             Plasmaphysik
>>>>>>>>>>>>             8046
>>>>>>>>>>>>             Garching
>>>>>>>>>>>>             bei
>>>>>>>>>>>>             Miinchen,
>>>>>>>>>>>>             Federal
>>>>>>>>>>>>             Republic
>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>             Germany
>>>>>>>>>>>>             Abstract
>>>>>>>>>>>>             The
>>>>>>>>>>>>             talk
>>>>>>>>>>>>             briefly
>>>>>>>>>>>>             reviews
>>>>>>>>>>>>             previous
>>>>>>>>>>>>             stationary
>>>>>>>>>>>>             models,
>>>>>>>>>>>>             mainly
>>>>>>>>>>>>             configurations
>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>>>>             Petschek
>>>>>>>>>>>>             type,
>>>>>>>>>>>>             pointing
>>>>>>>>>>>>             out
>>>>>>>>>>>>             their
>>>>>>>>>>>>             shortcomings
>>>>>>>>>>>>             and
>>>>>>>>>>>>             basic
>>>>>>>>>>>>             failure
>>>>>>>>>>>>             in
>>>>>>>>>>>>             accounting
>>>>>>>>>>>>             for
>>>>>>>>>>>>             fast
>>>>>>>>>>>>             magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>>             reconnection
>>>>>>>>>>>>             in
>>>>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>>>>             limit
>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>             large
>>>>>>>>>>>>             magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>>             Reynolds
>>>>>>>>>>>>             number.
>>>>>>>>>>>>             It
>>>>>>>>>>>>             is
>>>>>>>>>>>>             shown
>>>>>>>>>>>>             that
>>>>>>>>>>>>             in
>>>>>>>>>>>>             this
>>>>>>>>>>>>             limit
>>>>>>>>>>>>             no
>>>>>>>>>>>>             relevant
>>>>>>>>>>>>             stationary
>>>>>>>>>>>>             states
>>>>>>>>>>>>             exist.
>>>>>>>>>>>>             Instead
>>>>>>>>>>>>             strong
>>>>>>>>>>>>             small-scale
>>>>>>>>>>>>             MHD
>>>>>>>>>>>>             turbulence
>>>>>>>>>>>>             develops
>>>>>>>>>>>>             even
>>>>>>>>>>>>             in
>>>>>>>>>>>>             2D
>>>>>>>>>>>>             geometry,
>>>>>>>>>>>>             giving
>>>>>>>>>>>>             rise
>>>>>>>>>>>>             to
>>>>>>>>>>>>             energy
>>>>>>>>>>>>             dissipation
>>>>>>>>>>>>             and
>>>>>>>>>>>>             reconnection
>>>>>>>>>>>>             rates
>>>>>>>>>>>>             independent
>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>>>>             value
>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>>>>             collisional
>>>>>>>>>>>>             re-
>>>>>>>>>>>>             sistivity.
>>>>>>>>>>>>             I
>>>>>>>>>>>>             Introduction
>>>>>>>>>>>>             In
>>>>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>>>>             last
>>>>>>>>>>>>             decade
>>>>>>>>>>>>             it
>>>>>>>>>>>>             has
>>>>>>>>>>>>             been realized
>>>>>>>>>>>>             that
>>>>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>>>>             presence
>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>             magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>>             fields
>>>>>>>>>>>>             is
>>>>>>>>>>>>             a
>>>>>>>>>>>>             ubiquitous
>>>>>>>>>>>>             phenomenon
>>>>>>>>>>>>             in
>>>>>>>>>>>>             cosmic
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>             (Message over 64 KB, truncated)
>>>>>>>>>
>

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/225697264_A_standing_wave_acoustic_levitation_system_for_large_planar_objects


Ja Brink & John ,"Thanks for your comments"!  Since I went to 
Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University and am a dual rated aviator (rotary 
wing), I concur with your observation regarding the lift multiplication 
with multiple "counter rotating" rotors for this is where the "pair 
production" of vortices happens which gives an order of magnitude gross 
lift.

Having studied the large beetles (Rhinobeetle) it is interesting to 
watch in slow motion video, them first cam forward and outward and lock 
their Elytra (Wing cover shell)  "no lift yet", then start rotary wing 
motion which activates the micro cavity structure (under side of Elyton) 
then take off with surprising ease!  The anomalous lift is induced by 
the wing motion air currents under the shells.  "Pure and simple"!  Look 
at the video and please note several Elyton (shells) laying on table 
"cup side down" and are not "hovering".  They are not "glued down to 
table top" so if the "static" lift theory were valid they could not 
simply lie there motionless!  It takes the vortex air  movement to 
create the eddy flow which in-turn activates the AG effects the same as 
seen in close proximity tornado vortex eddy air flows. Please see shells 
laying cup side down here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HW6uOW4aoJQ

Dallas tornado 2005, semi trailers suspended in mid air! (outside of 
tornado vortex).  53 ft. trailer weighing 12,000 #s


On 4/3/2017 9:52 PM, jabrinka [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
> In the study of flight when using models to determine flight 
> characteristics the models are typically smaller than the aircraft 
> design being studied however the components that make up air remain 
> the same size so... a smaller version will be operating in relatively 
> more dense compressible fluid. This is known as scale effect. When a 
> fish swings its tail to one side a vortex is created as a result. On 
> the return swing the tail has the additional rotary motion (angular 
> momentum) to push against as opposed to a stationary volume of fluid 
> resulting in extra thrust. This explains the increased efficiency of 
> multiple rotors on an aircraft drone or otherwise.
> On the lungan mousetrap buzzer thread, sometime ago 2007ish on this 
> forum a member Gary (the Skipper ) had a design for a long coil with 
> em/back emf collecting coils along its length. I had almost finished 
> my reproduction when the latest spook showed up with several wild 
> geese for me to chase. Lost my house and havent made another coil yet. 
> The buzzer kickback Norm mentioned spelled out for me how Ron Cole's 
> electric car with all the clicking relays must have worked (before he 
> was disappeared). Evidently grounding to the car frame was enough to 
> make a neutral spike of sorts.. heh....heh. Best to all Ja Brink
>

John!  Watch this video and pay close attention to the "Bird in flight 
part"!    See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcNGwmV1Yio "Vortex pair 
generation via leading edge feathers"  allows bird to land "vertically"!


On 4/3/2017 8:45 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:

John: Sorry! I did not see any evidence of "lift" or anti-gravity with 
"dead bug" parts!  What are you referring to with the window blind & 
glue??? I did not see this evidence?? My "pair production of counter 
rotating vortices" is a "dynamic flow" situation and contend that you do 
not have evidence of a "static" no air flow lift situation!  Please show 
me some evidence of a totally "static lift".  Sure! the movement of 
"Elytra" on a table top was shown as false due to "electrostatic 
effects".  I can walk across a polyester carpet and pick up a pair of 
steel tweasers and make the Elyton move about via electrostatic charge! 
Nothing conclusive here!  Show me a Elyton hovering in air "static, no 
air flow" over the table, them I will be convinced! Sure there is the 
"AG" effect when the wings of the bug provide the necessary circulating 
vortex air flow within the micro cavities under the Elytra thus giving 
the anomalous lift we all see as evidence that very large bugs, 
rhinobeatles and bumblebees can achieve what the text books prove cannot 
be done. "Fly"!

Sometimes it is great to be able to go back and retreive messages that 
are applicable to today's topics.

On 1/11/2019 6:30 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Ok!   folks, Ole has brought up a very interesting point when 
> comparing the air mass, weather and the phenomenon of levitation, 
> anti-gravity etc. Something that I have been wanting to bring up but 
> the subject is a little far out of the mainstream thinking.  Lets look 
> at a profound statement here:
>
>
> Alfven quote:"If a conducting liquid is placed in a constant magnetic 
> field, every motion of the liquid gives rise to an E.M.F. which 
> produces electric currents. Owing to the magnetic field, these 
> currents give mechanical forces which change the state of motion of 
> the liquid. Thus a kind of combined electromagnetic-hydrodynamic wave 
> is produced.^"
>
> ^
>
> ^
>
> ^Back when I posted the articles on electrostatic generators, I had 
> stated that the 9th grade Science Class explanation for the source of 
> the electrons was believed to be a shearing from the air as the device 
> rotated, example Wimshurst Machine. WRONG.  I gave you the example of 
> the Felici Electrostatic Generator 
> http://u2.lege.net/newebmasters.com__freeenergy/external_links_from_theverylastpageoftheinternet.com/highvoltage/HVgenerator/HVgenerator.htm 
> Here we have a device that uses pure hydrogen gas at 30 bar pressure 
> as the operating media and produces 2.5 KW at 300KV.   CERN is 
> operating an electrostatic generator that has a deep vacuum as the 
> operating media. ??   Ole's example of air is interesting for we have 
> discussed tornadoes and how we observe Anti-gravitic phenomenon at the 
> vortex base due to the  counter  rotating, vortex-anti vortex eddy 
> currents in which we get the Alfven example of 
> Electromagnetic-hydrodynamics.  We see this same example in the 
> Sonodiffuser with the production of the micro cavitation production of 
> vortex-counter vortex producing the photon burst.     Air when ionized 
> is a highly conductive fluid as is water.
>
>
> ^
>
> ^With a background education in Aerodynamics, I studied the subject as 
> thoroughly as possible an came away with a different Theory.  See: 
> https://www.mpoweruk.com/flight_theory.htm. Bernoulli's Principle and 
> Newton's Law of motion do not complete the puzzle.  In wind tunnel 
> testing of airfoils, little turfs of string are attached at thousands 
> of points on the upper, lift producing areas of the wing.  There is 
> clear evidence that micro vertices are produced along with the counter 
> vertices and we get a gross production of the anti-gravitic effects as 
> we see in the tornado example.  See, I told you that this fly's way 
> outside of mainstream thinking.   The more we examine the evidence, 
> new conclusions spring forth.   Thank You Ole for your question opens 
> a whole new approach into all thing that perturb the Aether.
>
> On 1/10/2019 8:40 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>> Hi Norman,
>>
>> When looking at a weather map showing the air pressure wind speed or 
>> temperature as field lines does that really mean that air is made up 
>> of field lines or just being some mathematical construct? What if the 
>> air is made up of small particles only connected when bouncing into 
>> each other. The particles then could transfer forces just like 
>> electric and magnetic fields or gravitational fields. T.J.J. See 
>> (https://wiki2.org/en/Thomas_Jefferson_Jackson_See) and C.A. Bjérknes 
>> (https://wiki2.org/en/Carl_Anton_Bjerknes) demonstrated that the same 
>> laws applied no matter what medium was used and thus concluded that 
>> there must be some aether behaving like gases or liquids. The same 
>> conclusion is made by the Rhythmodynamics theory: 
>> http://mirit.ru/rd_2007en.htm.
>>
>> Even gravity is united into those kind of theories but still missing 
>> in classical electromagnetism. Here is a video showing levitating 
>> objects using sound waves in air: Present: "Levitation in a Sound 
>> Standing Wave" (11 khz): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIi5tUupH9c 
>> (3:35). Even though the sound waves may be described by using field 
>> lines I don't see this really describing air or sound as being made 
>> of field lines. It's just a mathematical construct that can be broken 
>> down to something even smaller. Field lines are very useful in 
>> describing a field except when the field lines become discontinuous 
>> at some intersections.
>>
>> "https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/30fari/what_is_a_magnetic_field_made_of/ 
>> Interesting note here  "Take the magnetic field created by the earth 
>> for example. This field is very big. If virtual photons can travel 
>> all the way around the field in a time shorter than planck time, 
>> aren't they moving faster than the speed of light?"   Ah Ha!   Super 
>> Light, Super luminal velocities."
>> This may actually be the case. W.B. Smith couldn't measure any delay 
>> in the propagation of his tensor beam. His theory tells that it 
>> carries time along with its length and thus is at the same time along 
>> its length. What is considered empty space by most of science 
>> actually has the physical constants of permittivity of vacuum and 
>> permeability of vacuum as if there is still something physical there? 
>> The theories that take this into account are probably more correct 
>> than the ones dismissing such facts. According to the theory of 
>> Rhythmodynamics there are different modes of wave propagation like 
>> longitudinal waves behaving like transverse waves at some distance 
>> from the emitters which could be why light and other electromagnetic 
>> waves are seen as transverse electromagnetic waves.
>>
>> We may be living in several different densities that propagates 
>> signals at each their own speed. Glass water air and vacuum have each 
>> their own density and speed of propagating electromagnetic waves. 
>> Perhaps there are even less densities than the ones we know. John W. 
>> Keely claimed that this is the case.
>>
>> Regards
>> Ole
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ---In [email protected], <nwootan@...> wrote :
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4gCTmlm5RQ
>>
>> On 1/10/2019 6:21 PM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... <mailto:nwootan@...> 
>> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>>>     Lets look at the actual make up of the magnetic flux lines.
>>>     https://van.physics.illinois.edu/qa/listing.php?id=414
>>>
>>>     https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/30fari/what_is_a_magnetic_field_made_of/
>>>     Interesting note here  "Take the magnetic field created by the
>>>     earth for example. This field is very big. If virtual photons
>>>     can travel all the way around the field in a time shorter than
>>>     planck time, aren't they moving faster than the speed of light?"
>>>       Ah Ha!   Super Light, Super luminal velocities.
>>>
>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYA0bntrjsk&feature=youtu.be
>>>
>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3P-FGw5KUeo&feature=youtu.be
>>>
>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crfY2vzVMbI&feature=youtu.be
>>>
>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rst9EcF9ryk&feature=youtu.be
>>>
>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hk1cOffTgdk&feature=youtu.be The
>>>     Best!
>>>
>>>     On 1/10/2019 4:55 PM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     Thank You, Bert Pool for this new soc.
>>>>     https://scienceblog.com/505176/scientists-inch-closer-to-fusion-energy-with-discovery-of-a-process-that-stabilizes-plasmas/
>>>>
>>>>     On 1/10/2019 7:58 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>     <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>       Alfvén wave
>>>>>
>>>>>     An *Alfvén wave* is a wave that occurs in a plasma
>>>>>     <https://www.plasma-universe.com/Plasma> (or conducting
>>>>>     fluid), resulting from the interaction of the magnetic fields
>>>>>     and electric currents
>>>>>     <https://www.plasma-universe.com/Electric_current> within it,
>>>>>     causing an oscillation of the ions. Alfvén wrote in a letter
>>>>>     to the journal /Nature/ in 1942:
>>>>>
>>>>>         "If a conducting liquid is placed in a constant magnetic
>>>>>         field, every motion of the liquid gives rise to an E.M.F.
>>>>>         which produces electric currents. Owing to the magnetic
>>>>>         field, these currents give mechanical forces which change
>>>>>         the state of motion of the liquid. Thus a kind of combined
>>>>>         electromagnetic-hydrodynamic wave is produced."^[1]
>>>>>         <https://www.plasma-universe.com/Alfv%C3%A9n_wave#cite_note-alfven1942-1>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     Alfvén waves initiated the field of magnetohydrodynamics
>>>>>     <https://www.plasma-universe.com/Magnetohydrodynamics> which
>>>>>     subsequently earned Alfvén a Nobel Prize.
>>>>>
>>>>>     Put some thought behind this statement  "A conductive liquid"!!
>>>>>
>>>>>     On 1/10/2019 7:41 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannes_Alfv%C3%A9n Please read
>>>>>>     this mans research and see how he was often rejected by
>>>>>>     fellow physicists.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     On 1/10/2019 7:31 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     http://aa.springer.de/papers/7324002/2300449.pdf Still
>>>>>>>     researching the importance of the Alfven waves in plasma.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     On 1/10/2019 6:51 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Moray, Jon Gentry and Warren asked pertinent questions
>>>>>>>>     regarding velocities, magnetic flux etc. in plasma events
>>>>>>>>     so I did a search as to whether Alfven waves have a
>>>>>>>>     frequency.  This site pretty well defines a lot of plasma
>>>>>>>>     info that we need.   See:
>>>>>>>>     https://www.britannica.com/science/plasma-state-of-matter#ref507092
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     On 1/10/2019 6:29 AM, Warren Keillor
>>>>>>>>     schoonersolsticemoon@... <mailto:schoonersolsticemoon@...>
>>>>>>>>     [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>     Norman
>>>>>>>>>     Hooper's work looks very compelling. At his time of
>>>>>>>>>     experimentation, super conductors were not a reality as
>>>>>>>>>     they are now. The fact that a resistance free conductor
>>>>>>>>>     might accelerate  a potential's velocity, after going
>>>>>>>>>     through a resistor, suggests an analogy to fluid dynamics,
>>>>>>>>>     much like Bernuili's principle application of a venturi to
>>>>>>>>>     gases.
>>>>>>>>>     The idea of dielectric conductors is a mind smasher,
>>>>>>>>>     inverting our entire circuit thoughts.
>>>>>>>>>     Generally, pretty radical concepts, in a zone to set us up
>>>>>>>>>     for quantum physics thinking. Whew!
>>>>>>>>>     Cheers Warren
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>>>>>>>>     <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 3:17 PM, Norman Wootan
>>>>>>>>>         nwootan@... <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY]
>>>>>>>>>         <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         Good question Warren! Nobody really knows how the
>>>>>>>>>         potential and current manifest in the conductor
>>>>>>>>>         passing through a flux field. Your question is valid
>>>>>>>>>         cause there very well may be some sort of reconnect
>>>>>>>>>         occurring here. Theory was, that the flux field was
>>>>>>>>>         photon stream which enabled pairing to produce
>>>>>>>>>         electrons and attending current. There is still so
>>>>>>>>>         much that we don't know but things are getting
>>>>>>>>>         interesting. Read that last doc that I posted for it
>>>>>>>>>         is very enlightening on this subject. See:
>>>>>>>>>         http://www.tfcbooks.com/mall/more/temp/x565-hen.htm
>>>>>>>>>         This is one of Oles favorites.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         On 1/9/2019 9:09 AM, Warren Keillor
>>>>>>>>>         schoonersolsticemoon@...
>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:schoonersolsticemoon@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         Norman
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         I wonder if, in a down to earth , practical manner,
>>>>>>>>>>         the connect/re-connect plays a role in, for instance,
>>>>>>>>>>         the Kromery, where one slides the magnets at right
>>>>>>>>>>         angles to their locked together state.
>>>>>>>>>>         Initially, I need both hands to grasp the flywheel to
>>>>>>>>>>         turn my Kromery.
>>>>>>>>>>         Once turning, one finger's friction on the rim,
>>>>>>>>>>         easily rotates the flywheel, regardless of the load.
>>>>>>>>>>         Too fast, then eddy currents start warming the
>>>>>>>>>>         magnetic coil cores.
>>>>>>>>>>         Are we cutting those magnetic lines?
>>>>>>>>>>         Cheers Warren
>>>>>>>>>>         Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>>>>>>>>>         <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>             On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 9:25 AM, Norman Wootan
>>>>>>>>>>             nwootan@... <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY]
>>>>>>>>>>             <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>             <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>             http://young.caltech.edu/Collisionless_Magnetic_Reconnection.html
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>             On 1/9/2019 8:21 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>             https://phys.org/news/2017-10-hidden-mechanics-magnetic-field-reconnection.html
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>             On 1/9/2019 8:14 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>             https://gss.pppl.gov/talks/reconnection%20lecture%201.pdf
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>             On 1/9/2019 8:09 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007%2F978-94-009-0545-0_14
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Recent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Developments
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Theory
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Reconnection
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Dieter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Biskamp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Max-Planck-Institut
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             fiir
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Plasmaphysik
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             8046
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Garching
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             bei
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Miinchen,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Federal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Republic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Germany
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Abstract
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             talk
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             briefly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             reviews
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             previous
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             stationary
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             models,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             mainly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             configurations
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Petschek
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             type,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             pointing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             shortcomings
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             basic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             failure
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             accounting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             fast
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             reconnection
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             limit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             large
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Reynolds
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             number.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             It
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             shown
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             limit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             relevant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             stationary
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             states
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             exist.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Instead
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             strong
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             small-scale
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             MHD
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             turbulence
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             develops
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             even
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             2D
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             geometry,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             giving
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             rise
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             energy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             dissipation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             reconnection
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             rates
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             independent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             value
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             collisional
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             re-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             sistivity.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Introduction
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             In
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             last
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             decade
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             been realized
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             presence
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             fields
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             ubiquitous
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             phenomenon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             cosmic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             (Message over 64 KB, truncated)
>>>>>>>>>>
>

http://physics.tutorcircle.com/modern-physics/pair-production.html


On 1/11/2019 7:15 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/225697264_A_standing_wave_acoustic_levitation_system_for_large_planar_objects
>
>
> Ja Brink & John ,"Thanks for your comments"!  Since I went to 
> Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University and am a dual rated aviator 
> (rotary wing), I concur with your observation regarding the lift 
> multiplication with multiple "counter rotating" rotors for this is 
> where the "pair production" of vortices happens which gives an order 
> of magnitude gross lift.
>
> Having studied the large beetles (Rhinobeetle) it is interesting to 
> watch in slow motion video, them first cam forward and outward and 
> lock their Elytra (Wing cover shell)  "no lift yet", then start rotary 
> wing motion which activates the micro cavity structure (under side of 
> Elyton) then take off with surprising ease!  The anomalous lift is 
> induced by the wing motion air currents under the shells.  "Pure and 
> simple"!  Look at the video and please note several Elyton (shells) 
> laying on table "cup side down" and are not "hovering".  They are not 
> "glued down to table top" so if the "static" lift theory were valid 
> they could not simply lie there motionless!  It takes the vortex air  
> movement to create the eddy flow which in-turn activates the AG 
> effects the same as seen in close proximity tornado vortex eddy air 
> flows.  Please see shells laying cup side down here: 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HW6uOW4aoJQ
>
> Dallas tornado 2005, semi trailers suspended in mid air! (outside of 
> tornado vortex).  53 ft. trailer weighing 12,000 #s
>
>
> On 4/3/2017 9:52 PM, jabrinka [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>> In the study of flight when using models to determine flight 
>> characteristics the models are typically smaller than the aircraft 
>> design being studied however the components that make up air remain 
>> the same size so... a smaller version will be operating in relatively 
>> more dense compressible fluid. This is known as scale effect. When a 
>> fish swings its tail to one side a vortex is created as a result. On 
>> the return swing the tail has the additional rotary motion (angular 
>> momentum) to push against as opposed to a stationary volume of fluid 
>> resulting in extra thrust. This explains the increased efficiency of 
>> multiple rotors on an aircraft drone or otherwise.
>> On the lungan mousetrap buzzer thread, sometime ago 2007ish on this 
>> forum a member Gary (the Skipper ) had a design for a long coil with 
>> em/back emf collecting coils along its length. I had almost finished 
>> my reproduction when the latest spook showed up with several wild 
>> geese for me to chase. Lost my house and havent made another coil 
>> yet. The buzzer kickback Norm mentioned spelled out for me how Ron 
>> Cole's electric car with all the clicking relays must have worked 
>> (before he was disappeared). Evidently grounding to the car frame was 
>> enough to make a neutral spike of sorts.. heh....heh. Best to all Ja 
>> Brink
>>
>
> John!  Watch this video and pay close attention to the "Bird in flight 
> part"!    See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcNGwmV1Yio "Vortex 
> pair generation via leading edge feathers"  allows bird to land 
> "vertically"!
>
>
> On 4/3/2017 8:45 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>
> John: Sorry! I did not see any evidence of "lift" or anti-gravity with 
> "dead bug" parts!  What are you referring to with the window blind & 
> glue??? I did not see this evidence??  My "pair production of counter 
> rotating vortices" is a "dynamic flow" situation and contend that you 
> do not have evidence of a "static" no air flow lift situation!  Please 
> show me some evidence of a totally "static lift".  Sure! the movement 
> of "Elytra" on a table top was shown as false due to "electrostatic 
> effects".  I can walk across a polyester carpet and pick up a pair of 
> steel tweasers and make the Elyton move about via electrostatic 
> charge!  Nothing conclusive here!  Show me a Elyton hovering in air 
> "static, no air flow" over the table, them I will be convinced!  Sure 
> there is the "AG" effect when the wings of the bug provide the 
> necessary circulating vortex air flow within the micro cavities under 
> the Elytra thus giving the anomalous lift we all see as evidence that 
> very large bugs, rhinobeatles and bumblebees can achieve what the text 
> books prove cannot be done. "Fly"!
>
> Sometimes it is great to be able to go back and retreive messages that 
> are applicable to today's topics.
>
> On 1/11/2019 6:30 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>> Ok!   folks, Ole has brought up a very interesting point when 
>> comparing the air mass, weather and the phenomenon of levitation, 
>> anti-gravity etc. Something that I have been wanting to bring up but 
>> the subject is a little far out of the mainstream thinking.  Lets 
>> look at a profound statement here:
>>
>>
>> Alfven quote:"If a conducting liquid is placed in a constant magnetic 
>> field, every motion of the liquid gives rise to an E.M.F. which 
>> produces electric currents. Owing to the magnetic field, these 
>> currents give mechanical forces which change the state of motion of 
>> the liquid. Thus a kind of combined electromagnetic-hydrodynamic wave 
>> is produced.^"
>>
>> ^
>>
>> ^
>>
>> ^Back when I posted the articles on electrostatic generators, I had 
>> stated that the 9th grade Science Class explanation for the source of 
>> the electrons was believed to be a shearing from the air as the 
>> device rotated, example Wimshurst Machine.  WRONG.  I gave you the 
>> example of the Felici Electrostatic Generator 
>> http://u2.lege.net/newebmasters.com__freeenergy/external_links_from_theverylastpageoftheinternet.com/highvoltage/HVgenerator/HVgenerator.htm 
>> Here we have a device that uses pure hydrogen gas at 30 bar pressure 
>> as the operating media and produces 2.5 KW at 300KV.   CERN is 
>> operating an electrostatic generator that has a deep vacuum as the 
>> operating media. ??   Ole's example of air is interesting for we have 
>> discussed tornadoes and how we observe Anti-gravitic phenomenon at 
>> the vortex base due to the  counter  rotating, vortex-anti vortex 
>> eddy currents in which we get the Alfven example of 
>> Electromagnetic-hydrodynamics.  We see this same example in the 
>> Sonodiffuser with the production of the micro cavitation production 
>> of vortex-counter vortex producing the photon burst.     Air when 
>> ionized is a highly conductive fluid as is water.
>>
>>
>> ^
>>
>> ^With a background education in Aerodynamics, I studied the subject 
>> as thoroughly as possible an came away with a different Theory.  See: 
>> https://www.mpoweruk.com/flight_theory.htm. Bernoulli's Principle and 
>> Newton's Law of motion do not complete the puzzle.  In wind tunnel 
>> testing of airfoils, little turfs of string are attached at thousands 
>> of points on the upper, lift producing areas of the wing.  There is 
>> clear evidence that micro vertices are produced along with the 
>> counter vertices and we get a gross production of the anti-gravitic 
>> effects as we see in the tornado example.  See, I told you that this 
>> fly's way outside of mainstream thinking.   The more we examine the 
>> evidence, new conclusions spring forth.   Thank You Ole for your 
>> question opens a whole new approach into all thing that perturb the 
>> Aether.
>>
>> On 1/10/2019 8:40 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Norman,
>>>
>>> When looking at a weather map showing the air pressure wind speed or 
>>> temperature as field lines does that really mean that air is made up 
>>> of field lines or just being some mathematical construct? What if 
>>> the air is made up of small particles only connected when bouncing 
>>> into each other. The particles then could transfer forces just like 
>>> electric and magnetic fields or gravitational fields. T.J.J. See 
>>> (https://wiki2.org/en/Thomas_Jefferson_Jackson_See) and C.A. 
>>> Bjérknes (https://wiki2.org/en/Carl_Anton_Bjerknes) demonstrated 
>>> that the same laws applied no matter what medium was used and thus 
>>> concluded that there must be some aether behaving like gases or 
>>> liquids. The same conclusion is made by the Rhythmodynamics theory: 
>>> http://mirit.ru/rd_2007en.htm.
>>>
>>> Even gravity is united into those kind of theories but still missing 
>>> in classical electromagnetism. Here is a video showing levitating 
>>> objects using sound waves in air: Present: "Levitation in a Sound 
>>> Standing Wave" (11 khz): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIi5tUupH9c 
>>> (3:35). Even though the sound waves may be described by using field 
>>> lines I don't see this really describing air or sound as being made 
>>> of field lines. It's just a mathematical construct that can be 
>>> broken down to something even smaller. Field lines are very useful 
>>> in describing a field except when the field lines become 
>>> discontinuous at some intersections.
>>>
>>> "https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/30fari/what_is_a_magnetic_field_made_of/ 
>>> Interesting note here  "Take the magnetic field created by the earth 
>>> for example. This field is very big. If virtual photons can travel 
>>> all the way around the field in a time shorter than planck time, 
>>> aren't they moving faster than the speed of light?"   Ah Ha! Super 
>>> Light, Super luminal velocities."
>>> This may actually be the case. W.B. Smith couldn't measure any delay 
>>> in the propagation of his tensor beam. His theory tells that it 
>>> carries time along with its length and thus is at the same time 
>>> along its length. What is considered empty space by most of science 
>>> actually has the physical constants of permittivity of vacuum and 
>>> permeability of vacuum as if there is still something physical 
>>> there? The theories that take this into account are probably more 
>>> correct than the ones dismissing such facts. According to the theory 
>>> of Rhythmodynamics there are different modes of wave propagation 
>>> like longitudinal waves behaving like transverse waves at some 
>>> distance from the emitters which could be why light and other 
>>> electromagnetic waves are seen as transverse electromagnetic waves.
>>>
>>> We may be living in several different densities that propagates 
>>> signals at each their own speed. Glass water air and vacuum have 
>>> each their own density and speed of propagating electromagnetic 
>>> waves. Perhaps there are even less densities than the ones we know. 
>>> John W. Keely claimed that this is the case.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Ole
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---In [email protected], <nwootan@...> wrote :
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4gCTmlm5RQ
>>>
>>> On 1/10/2019 6:21 PM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... <mailto:nwootan@...> 
>>> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>>>     Lets look at the actual make up of the magnetic flux lines.
>>>>     https://van.physics.illinois.edu/qa/listing.php?id=414
>>>>
>>>>     https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/30fari/what_is_a_magnetic_field_made_of/
>>>>     Interesting note here  "Take the magnetic field created by the
>>>>     earth for example. This field is very big. If virtual photons
>>>>     can travel all the way around the field in a time shorter than
>>>>     planck time, aren't they moving faster than the speed of
>>>>     light?"   Ah Ha!   Super Light, Super luminal velocities.
>>>>
>>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYA0bntrjsk&feature=youtu.be
>>>>
>>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3P-FGw5KUeo&feature=youtu.be
>>>>
>>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crfY2vzVMbI&feature=youtu.be
>>>>
>>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rst9EcF9ryk&feature=youtu.be
>>>>
>>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hk1cOffTgdk&feature=youtu.be
>>>>     The Best!
>>>>
>>>>     On 1/10/2019 4:55 PM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>     Thank You, Bert Pool for this new soc.
>>>>>     https://scienceblog.com/505176/scientists-inch-closer-to-fusion-energy-with-discovery-of-a-process-that-stabilizes-plasmas/
>>>>>
>>>>>     On 1/10/2019 7:58 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>>     <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       Alfvén wave
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     An *Alfvén wave* is a wave that occurs in a plasma
>>>>>>     <https://www.plasma-universe.com/Plasma> (or conducting
>>>>>>     fluid), resulting from the interaction of the magnetic fields
>>>>>>     and electric currents
>>>>>>     <https://www.plasma-universe.com/Electric_current> within it,
>>>>>>     causing an oscillation of the ions. Alfvén wrote in a letter
>>>>>>     to the journal /Nature/ in 1942:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         "If a conducting liquid is placed in a constant magnetic
>>>>>>         field, every motion of the liquid gives rise to an E.M.F.
>>>>>>         which produces electric currents. Owing to the magnetic
>>>>>>         field, these currents give mechanical forces which change
>>>>>>         the state of motion of the liquid. Thus a kind of
>>>>>>         combined electromagnetic-hydrodynamic wave is
>>>>>>         produced."^[1]
>>>>>>         <https://www.plasma-universe.com/Alfv%C3%A9n_wave#cite_note-alfven1942-1>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Alfvén waves initiated the field of magnetohydrodynamics
>>>>>>     <https://www.plasma-universe.com/Magnetohydrodynamics> which
>>>>>>     subsequently earned Alfvén a Nobel Prize.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Put some thought behind this statement  "A conductive liquid"!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     On 1/10/2019 7:41 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannes_Alfv%C3%A9n Please read
>>>>>>>     this mans research and see how he was often rejected by
>>>>>>>     fellow physicists.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     On 1/10/2019 7:31 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     http://aa.springer.de/papers/7324002/2300449.pdf Still
>>>>>>>>     researching the importance of the Alfven waves in plasma.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     On 1/10/2019 6:51 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     Moray, Jon Gentry and Warren asked pertinent questions
>>>>>>>>>     regarding velocities, magnetic flux etc. in plasma events
>>>>>>>>>     so I did a search as to whether Alfven waves have a
>>>>>>>>>     frequency.  This site pretty well defines a lot of plasma
>>>>>>>>>     info that we need.   See:
>>>>>>>>>     https://www.britannica.com/science/plasma-state-of-matter#ref507092
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     On 1/10/2019 6:29 AM, Warren Keillor
>>>>>>>>>     schoonersolsticemoon@... <mailto:schoonersolsticemoon@...>
>>>>>>>>>     [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>     Norman
>>>>>>>>>>     Hooper's work looks very compelling. At his time of
>>>>>>>>>>     experimentation, super conductors were not a reality as
>>>>>>>>>>     they are now. The fact that a resistance free conductor
>>>>>>>>>>     might accelerate  a potential's velocity, after going
>>>>>>>>>>     through a resistor, suggests an analogy to fluid
>>>>>>>>>>     dynamics, much like Bernuili's principle application of a
>>>>>>>>>>     venturi to gases.
>>>>>>>>>>     The idea of dielectric conductors is a mind smasher,
>>>>>>>>>>     inverting our entire circuit thoughts.
>>>>>>>>>>     Generally, pretty radical concepts, in a zone to set us
>>>>>>>>>>     up for quantum physics thinking. Whew!
>>>>>>>>>>     Cheers Warren
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>     Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>>>>>>>>>     <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 3:17 PM, Norman Wootan
>>>>>>>>>>         nwootan@... <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY]
>>>>>>>>>>         <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         Good question Warren! Nobody really knows how the
>>>>>>>>>>         potential and current manifest in the conductor
>>>>>>>>>>         passing through a flux field. Your question is valid
>>>>>>>>>>         cause there very well may be some sort of reconnect
>>>>>>>>>>         occurring here. Theory was, that the flux field was
>>>>>>>>>>         photon stream which enabled pairing to produce
>>>>>>>>>>         electrons and attending current. There is still so
>>>>>>>>>>         much that we don't know but things are getting
>>>>>>>>>>         interesting. Read that last doc that I posted for it
>>>>>>>>>>         is very enlightening on this subject. See:
>>>>>>>>>>         http://www.tfcbooks.com/mall/more/temp/x565-hen.htm
>>>>>>>>>>         This is one of Oles favorites.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         On 1/9/2019 9:09 AM, Warren Keillor
>>>>>>>>>>         schoonersolsticemoon@...
>>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:schoonersolsticemoon@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         Norman
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         I wonder if, in a down to earth , practical manner,
>>>>>>>>>>>         the connect/re-connect plays a role in, for
>>>>>>>>>>>         instance, the Kromery, where one slides the magnets
>>>>>>>>>>>         at right angles to their locked together state.
>>>>>>>>>>>         Initially, I need both hands to grasp the flywheel
>>>>>>>>>>>         to turn my Kromery.
>>>>>>>>>>>         Once turning, one finger's friction on the rim,
>>>>>>>>>>>         easily rotates the flywheel, regardless of the load.
>>>>>>>>>>>         Too fast, then eddy currents start warming the
>>>>>>>>>>>         magnetic coil cores.
>>>>>>>>>>>         Are we cutting those magnetic lines?
>>>>>>>>>>>         Cheers Warren
>>>>>>>>>>>         Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>>>>>>>>>>         <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>             On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 9:25 AM, Norman Wootan
>>>>>>>>>>>             nwootan@... <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY]
>>>>>>>>>>>             <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>             <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>             http://young.caltech.edu/Collisionless_Magnetic_Reconnection.html
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>             On 1/9/2019 8:21 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>             https://phys.org/news/2017-10-hidden-mechanics-magnetic-field-reconnection.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>             On 1/9/2019 8:14 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             https://gss.pppl.gov/talks/reconnection%20lecture%201.pdf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             On 1/9/2019 8:09 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007%2F978-94-009-0545-0_14
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Recent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Developments
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Theory
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Reconnection
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Dieter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Biskamp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Max-Planck-Institut
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             fiir
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Plasmaphysik
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             8046
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Garching
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             bei
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Miinchen,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Federal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Republic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Germany
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Abstract
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             talk
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             briefly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             reviews
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             previous
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             stationary
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             models,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             mainly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             configurations
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Petschek
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             type,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             pointing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             shortcomings
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             basic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             failure
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             accounting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             fast
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             reconnection
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             limit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             large
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Reynolds
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             number.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             It
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             shown
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             limit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             relevant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             stationary
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             states
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             exist.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Instead
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             strong
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             small-scale
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             MHD
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             turbulence
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             develops
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             even
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             2D
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             geometry,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             giving
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             rise
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             energy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             dissipation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             reconnection
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             rates
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             independent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             value
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             collisional
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             re-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             sistivity.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Introduction
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             In
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             last
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             decade
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             been realized
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             presence
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             fields
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             ubiquitous
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             phenomenon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             cosmic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             (Message over 64 KB, truncated)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>

Hi Norman,

In the second video it's not the Viktor Grebennikov effect as he calls it invisible tread: https://youtu.be/HW6uOW4aoJQ?t=74 https://youtu.be/HW6uOW4aoJQ?t=74

Viktor Grebennikov video search: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=viktor+grebennikov https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=viktor+grebennikov

Regards
Ole
 

---In [email protected], <nwootan@...> wrote :

 
 https://www.researchgate.net/publication/225697264_A_standing_wave_acoustic_levitation_system_for_large_planar_objects https://www.researchgate.net/publication/225697264_A_standing_wave_acoustic_levitation_system_for_large_planar_objects
 

 Ja Brink & John ,"Thanks for your comments"!  Since I went to Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University and am a dual rated aviator (rotary wing), I concur with your observation regarding the lift multiplication with multiple "counter rotating" rotors for this is where the "pair production" of vortices happens which gives an order of magnitude gross lift.
 Having studied the large beetles (Rhinobeetle) it is interesting to watch in slow motion video, them first cam forward and outward and lock their Elytra (Wing cover shell)  "no lift yet", then start rotary wing motion which activates the micro cavity structure (under side of Elyton) then take off with surprising ease!  The anomalous lift is induced by the wing motion air currents under the shells.  "Pure and simple"!  Look at the video and please note several Elyton (shells) laying on table "cup side down" and are not "hovering".  They are not "glued down to table top" so if the "static" lift theory were valid they could not simply lie there motionless!  It takes the vortex air  movement to create the eddy flow which in-turn activates the AG effects the same as seen in close proximity tornado vortex eddy air flows.  Please see shells laying cup side down here:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HW6uOW4aoJQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HW6uOW4aoJQ
 Dallas tornado 2005, semi trailers suspended in mid air!  (outside of tornado vortex).  53 ft. trailer weighing 12,000 #s

 
 
 On 4/3/2017 9:52 PM, jabrinka jabrinka@... mailto:jabrinka@... [EVGRAY] wrote:

   In the study of flight when using models to determine flight characteristics the models are typically smaller than the aircraft design being studied however the components that make up air remain the same size so... a smaller version will be operating in relatively more dense compressible fluid. This is known as scale effect. When a fish swings its tail to one side a vortex is created as a result. On the return swing the tail has the additional rotary motion (angular momentum) to push against as opposed to a stationary volume of fluid resulting in extra thrust. This explains the increased efficiency of multiple rotors on an aircraft drone or otherwise.
 On the lungan mousetrap buzzer thread, sometime ago 2007ish on this forum a member Gary (the Skipper ) had a design for a long coil with em/back emf collecting coils along its length. I had almost finished my reproduction when the latest spook showed up with several wild geese for me to chase. Lost my house and havent made another coil yet. The buzzer kickback Norm mentioned spelled out for me how Ron Cole's electric car with all the clicking relays must have worked (before he was disappeared). Evidently grounding to the car frame was enough to make a neutral spike of sorts.. heh....heh. Best to all Ja Brink
 


 
 John!  Watch this video and pay close attention to the "Bird in flight part"!    See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcNGwmV1Yio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcNGwmV1Yio   "Vortex pair generation via leading edge feathers"  allows bird to land "vertically"!

 
 On 4/3/2017 8:45 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:

 John: Sorry! I did not see any evidence of "lift" or anti-gravity with "dead bug" parts!  What are you referring to with the window blind & glue??? I did not see this evidence??  My "pair production of counter rotating vortices" is a "dynamic flow" situation and contend that you do not have evidence of a "static" no air flow lift situation!  Please show me some evidence of a totally "static lift".  Sure! the movement of "Elytra" on a table top was shown as false due to "electrostatic effects".  I can walk across a polyester carpet and pick up a pair of steel tweasers and make the Elyton move about via electrostatic charge!  Nothing conclusive here!  Show me a Elyton hovering in air "static, no air flow" over the table, them I will be convinced!  Sure there is the "AG" effect when the wings of the bug provide the necessary circulating vortex air flow within the micro cavities under the Elytra thus giving the anomalous lift we all see as evidence that very large bugs, rhinobeatles and bumblebees can achieve what the text books prove cannot be done. "Fly"!   

 Sometimes it is great to be able to go back and retreive messages that are applicable to today's topics.

 On 1/11/2019 6:30 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... mailto:nwootan@... [EVGRAY] wrote:

   
 
 Ok!   folks, Ole has brought up a very interesting point when comparing the air mass, weather and the phenomenon of levitation, anti-gravity etc. Something that I have been wanting to bring up but the subject is a little far out of the mainstream thinking.  Lets look at a profound statement here: 
 
 
 
 Alfven quote:"If a conducting liquid is placed in a constant magnetic field, every motion of the liquid gives rise to an E.M.F. which produces electric currents. Owing to the magnetic field, these currents give mechanical forces which change the state of motion of the liquid. Thus a kind of combined electromagnetic-hydrodynamic wave is produced."
 
 
 
 
 Back when I posted the articles on electrostatic generators, I had stated that the 9th grade Science Class explanation for the source of the electrons was believed to be a shearing from the air as the device rotated, example Wimshurst Machine.  WRONG.  I gave you the example of the Felici Electrostatic Generator   http://u2.lege.net/newebmasters.com__freeenergy/external_links_from_theverylastpageoftheinternet.com/highvoltage/HVgenerator/HVgenerator.htm http://u2.lege.net/newebmasters.com__freeenergy/external_links_from_theverylastpageoftheinternet.com/highvoltage/HVgenerator/HVgenerator.htm   Here we have a device that uses pure hydrogen gas at 30 bar pressure as the operating media and produces 2.5 KW at 300KV.   CERN is operating an electrostatic generator that has a deep vacuum as the operating media. ??   Ole's example of air is interesting for we have discussed tornadoes and how we observe Anti-gravitic phenomenon at the vortex base due to the  counter  rotating, vortex-anti vortex eddy currents in which we get the Alfven example of Electromagnetic-hydrodynamics.  We see this same example in the Sonodiffuser with the production of the micro cavitation production of vortex-counter vortex producing the photon burst.     Air when ionized is a highly conductive fluid as is water.
 
 
 With a background education in Aerodynamics, I studied the subject as thoroughly as possible an came away with a different Theory.  See: https://www.mpoweruk.com/flight_theory.htm https://www.mpoweruk.com/flight_theory.htm.    Bernoulli's Principle and Newton's Law of motion do not complete the puzzle.  In wind tunnel testing of airfoils, little turfs of string are attached at thousands of points on the upper, lift producing areas of the wing.  There is clear evidence that micro vertices are produced along with the counter vertices and we get a gross production of the anti-gravitic effects as we see in the tornado example.  See, I told you that this fly's way outside of mainstream thinking.   The more we examine the evidence, new conclusions spring forth.   Thank You Ole for your question opens a whole new approach into all thing that perturb the Aether.
  
 On 1/10/2019 8:40 PM, onielsen@... mailto:onielsen@... [EVGRAY] wrote:

   Hi Norman,
 
 When looking at a weather map showing the air pressure wind speed or temperature as field lines does that really mean that air is made up of field lines or just being some mathematical construct? What if the air is made up of small particles only connected when bouncing into each other. The particles then could transfer forces just like electric and magnetic fields or gravitational fields. T.J.J. See (https://wiki2.org/en/Thomas_Jefferson_Jackson_See https://wiki2.org/en/Thomas_Jefferson_Jackson_See) and C.A. Bjérknes (https://wiki2.org/en/Carl_Anton_Bjerknes https://wiki2.org/en/Carl_Anton_Bjerknes) demonstrated that the same laws applied no matter what medium was used and thus concluded that there must be some aether behaving like gases or liquids. The same conclusion is made by the Rhythmodynamics theory: http://mirit.ru/rd_2007en.htm http://mirit.ru/rd_2007en.htm.
 
 Even gravity is united into those kind of theories but still missing in classical electromagnetism. Here is a video showing levitating objects using sound waves in air: Present: "Levitation in a Sound Standing Wave" (11 khz): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIi5tUupH9c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIi5tUupH9c  (3:35). Even though the sound waves may be described by using field lines I don't see this really describing air or sound as being made of field lines. It's just a mathematical construct that can be broken down to something even smaller. Field lines are very useful in describing a field except when the field lines become discontinuous at some intersections.
 
 "https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/30fari/what_is_a_magnetic_field_made_of/ https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/30fari/what_is_a_magnetic_field_made_of/    Interesting note here  "Take the magnetic field created by the earth for example. This field is very big. If virtual photons can travel all the way around the field in a time shorter than planck time, aren't they moving faster than the speed of light?"   Ah Ha!   Super Light, Super luminal velocities."
 This may actually be the case. W.B. Smith couldn't measure any delay in the propagation of his tensor beam. His theory tells that it carries time along with its length and thus is at the same time along its length. What is considered empty space by most of science actually has the physical constants of permittivity of vacuum and permeability of vacuum as if there is still something physical there? The theories that take this into account are probably more correct than the ones dismissing such facts. According to the theory of Rhythmodynamics there are different modes of wave propagation like longitudinal waves behaving like transverse waves at some distance from the emitters which could be why light and other electromagnetic waves are seen as transverse electromagnetic waves.
 
 We may be living in several different densities that propagates signals at each their own speed. Glass water air and vacuum have each their own density and speed of propagating electromagnetic waves. Perhaps there are even less densities than the ones we know. John W. Keely claimed that this is the case.
 
 Regards
 Ole
 
 

 
 
 ---In [email protected] mailto:[email protected], <nwootan@...> mailto:nwootan@... wrote :
 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4gCTmlm5RQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4gCTmlm5RQ

 On 1/10/2019 6:21 PM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... mailto:nwootan@... [EVGRAY] wrote:

   Lets look at the actual make up of the magnetic flux lines.  https://van.physics.illinois.edu/qa/listing.php?id=414 https://van.physics.illinois.edu/qa/listing.php?id=414
 https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/30fari/what_is_a_magnetic_field_made_of/ https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/30fari/what_is_a_magnetic_field_made_of/    Interesting note here  "Take the magnetic field created by the earth for example. This field is very big. If virtual photons can travel all the way around the field in a time shorter than planck time, aren't they moving faster than the speed of light?"   Ah Ha!   Super Light, Super luminal velocities.
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYA0bntrjsk&feature=youtu.be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYA0bntrjsk&feature=youtu.be
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3P-FGw5KUeo&feature=youtu.be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3P-FGw5KUeo&feature=youtu.be
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crfY2vzVMbI&feature=youtu.be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crfY2vzVMbI&feature=youtu.be
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rst9EcF9ryk&feature=youtu.be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rst9EcF9ryk&feature=youtu.be
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hk1cOffTgdk&feature=youtu.be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hk1cOffTgdk&feature=youtu.be   The Best!

 On 1/10/2019 4:55 PM, Norman Wootan wrote:

 Thank You, Bert Pool for this new soc.   https://scienceblog.com/505176/scientists-inch-closer-to-fusion-energy-with-discovery-of-a-process-that-stabilizes-plasmas/ https://scienceblog.com/505176/scientists-inch-closer-to-fusion-energy-with-discovery-of-a-process-that-stabilizes-plasmas/

 On 1/10/2019 7:58 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... mailto:nwootan@... [EVGRAY] wrote:

   Alfvén wave An Alfvén wave is a wave that occurs in a plasma https://www.plasma-universe.com/Plasma (or conducting fluid), resulting from the interaction of the magnetic fields and electric currents within it, causing an oscillation of the ions. Alfvén wrote in a letter to the journal Nature in 1942:
 "If a conducting liquid is placed in a constant magnetic field, every motion of the liquid gives rise to an E.M.F. which produces electric currents. Owing to the magnetic field, these currents give mechanical forces which change the state of motion of the liquid. Thus a kind of combined electromagnetic-hydrodynamic wave is produced."[1] https://www.plasma-universe.com/Alfv%C3%A9n_wave#cite_note-alfven1942-1 Alfvén waves initiated the field of magnetohydrodynamics https://www.plasma-universe.com/Magnetohydrodynamics which subsequently earned Alfvén a Nobel Prize. 

 Put some thought behind this statement  "A conductive liquid"!!

 On 1/10/2019 7:41 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannes_Alfv%C3%A9n https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannes_Alfv%C3%A9n    Please read this mans research and see how he was often rejected by fellow physicists.

 On 1/10/2019 7:31 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:

 http://aa.springer.de/papers/7324002/2300449.pdf http://aa.springer.de/papers/7324002/2300449.pdf   Still researching the importance of the Alfven waves in

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Norm,

Could you please distill the concept of soft particles?  I read the
Cater book and for some reason have a disconnect concerning what defines
a soft or hard electron etc.

Thanks,

Mick



On 1/11/2019 9:28 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> http://physics.tutorcircle.com/modern-physics/pair-production.html    
>
>
> On 1/11/2019 7:15 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>  
>>
>> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/225697264_A_standing_wave_acoustic_levitation_system_for_large_planar_objects
>>
>>
>> Ja Brink & John ,"Thanks for your comments"!  Since I went to
>> Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University and am a dual rated aviator
>> (rotary wing), I concur with your observation regarding the lift
>> multiplication with multiple "counter rotating" rotors for this is
>> where the "pair production" of vortices happens which gives an order
>> of magnitude gross lift.
>>
>> Having studied the large beetles (Rhinobeetle) it is interesting to
>> watch in slow motion video, them first cam forward and outward and
>> lock their Elytra (Wing cover shell)  "no lift yet", then start
>> rotary wing motion which activates the micro cavity structure (under
>> side of Elyton) then take off with surprising ease!  The anomalous
>> lift is induced by the wing motion air currents under the shells. 
>> "Pure and simple"!  Look at the video and please note several Elyton
>> (shells) laying on table "cup side down" and are not "hovering". 
>> They are not "glued down to table top" so if the "static" lift theory
>> were valid they could not simply lie there motionless!  It takes the
>> vortex air  movement to create the eddy flow which in-turn activates
>> the AG effects the same as seen in close proximity tornado vortex
>> eddy air flows.  Please see shells laying cup side down here: 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HW6uOW4aoJQ
>>
>> Dallas tornado 2005, semi trailers suspended in mid air!  (outside of
>> tornado vortex).  53 ft. trailer weighing 12,000 #s
>>
>>
>> On 4/3/2017 9:52 PM, jabrinka [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>  
>>> In the study of flight when using models to determine flight
>>> characteristics the models are typically smaller than the aircraft
>>> design being studied however the components that make up air remain
>>> the same size so... a smaller version will be operating in
>>> relatively more dense compressible fluid. This is known as scale
>>> effect. When a fish swings its tail to one side a vortex is created
>>> as a result. On the return swing the tail has the additional rotary
>>> motion (angular momentum) to push against as opposed to a stationary
>>> volume of fluid resulting in extra thrust. This explains the
>>> increased efficiency of multiple rotors on an aircraft drone or
>>> otherwise.
>>> On the lungan mousetrap buzzer thread, sometime ago 2007ish on this
>>> forum a member Gary (the Skipper ) had a design for a long coil with
>>> em/back emf collecting coils along its length. I had almost finished
>>> my reproduction when the latest spook showed up with several wild
>>> geese for me to chase. Lost my house and havent made another coil
>>> yet. The buzzer kickback Norm mentioned spelled out for me how Ron
>>> Cole's electric car with all the clicking relays must have worked
>>> (before he was disappeared). Evidently grounding to the car frame
>>> was enough to make a neutral spike of sorts.. heh....heh. Best to
>>> all Ja Brink
>>>
>>
>> John!  Watch this video and pay close attention to the "Bird in
>> flight part"!    See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcNGwmV1Yio  
>> "Vortex pair generation via leading edge feathers"  allows bird to
>> land "vertically"!
>>
>>
>> On 4/3/2017 8:45 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>
>> John: Sorry! I did not see any evidence of "lift" or anti-gravity
>> with "dead bug" parts!  What are you referring to with the window
>> blind & glue??? I did not see this evidence??  My "pair production of
>> counter rotating vortices" is a "dynamic flow" situation and contend
>> that you do not have evidence of a "static" no air flow lift
>> situation!  Please show me some evidence of a totally "static lift". 
>> Sure! the movement of "Elytra" on a table top was shown as false due
>> to "electrostatic effects".  I can walk across a polyester carpet and
>> pick up a pair of steel tweasers and make the Elyton move about via
>> electrostatic charge!  Nothing conclusive here!  Show me a Elyton
>> hovering in air "static, no air flow" over the table, them I will be
>> convinced!  Sure there is the "AG" effect when the wings of the bug
>> provide the necessary circulating vortex air flow within the micro
>> cavities under the Elytra thus giving the anomalous lift we all see
>> as evidence that very large bugs, rhinobeatles and bumblebees can
>> achieve what the text books prove cannot be done. "Fly"!  
>>
>> Sometimes it is great to be able to go back and retreive messages
>> that are applicable to today's topics.
>>
>> On 1/11/2019 6:30 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>  
>>>
>>> Ok!   folks, Ole has brought up a very interesting point when
>>> comparing the air mass, weather and the phenomenon of levitation,
>>> anti-gravity etc. Something that I have been wanting to bring up but
>>> the subject is a little far out of the mainstream thinking.  Lets
>>> look at a profound statement here:
>>>
>>>
>>> Alfven quote:"If a conducting liquid is placed in a constant
>>> magnetic field, every motion of the liquid gives rise to an E.M.F.
>>> which produces electric currents. Owing to the magnetic field, these
>>> currents give mechanical forces which change the state of motion of
>>> the liquid. Thus a kind of combined electromagnetic-hydrodynamic
>>> wave is produced.^"
>>>
>>> ^
>>>
>>> ^
>>>
>>> ^Back when I posted the articles on electrostatic generators, I had
>>> stated that the 9th grade Science Class explanation for the source
>>> of the electrons was believed to be a shearing from the air as the
>>> device rotated, example Wimshurst Machine.  WRONG.  I gave you the
>>> example of the Felici Electrostatic Generator  
>>> http://u2.lege.net/newebmasters.com__freeenergy/external_links_from_theverylastpageoftheinternet.com/highvoltage/HVgenerator/HVgenerator.htm  
>>> Here we have a device that uses pure hydrogen gas at 30 bar pressure
>>> as the operating media and produces 2.5 KW at 300KV.   CERN is
>>> operating an electrostatic generator that has a deep vacuum as the
>>> operating media. ??   Ole's example of air is interesting for we
>>> have discussed tornadoes and how we observe Anti-gravitic phenomenon
>>> at the vortex base due to the  counter  rotating, vortex-anti vortex
>>> eddy currents in which we get the Alfven example of
>>> Electromagnetic-hydrodynamics.  We see this same example in the
>>> Sonodiffuser with the production of the micro cavitation production
>>> of vortex-counter vortex producing the photon burst.     Air when
>>> ionized is a highly conductive fluid as is water.
>>>
>>>
>>> ^
>>>
>>> ^With a background education in Aerodynamics, I studied the subject
>>> as thoroughly as possible an came away with a different Theory. 
>>> See: https://www.mpoweruk.com/flight_theory.htm.    Bernoulli's
>>> Principle and Newton's Law of motion do not complete the puzzle.  In
>>> wind tunnel testing of airfoils, little turfs of string are attached
>>> at thousands of points on the upper, lift producing areas of the
>>> wing.  There is clear evidence that micro vertices are produced
>>> along with the counter vertices and we get a gross production of the
>>> anti-gravitic effects as we see in the tornado example.  See, I told
>>> you that this fly's way outside of mainstream thinking.   The more
>>> we examine the evidence, new conclusions spring forth.   Thank You
>>> Ole for your question opens a whole new approach into all thing that
>>> perturb the Aether.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> On 1/10/2019 8:40 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> Hi Norman,
>>>>
>>>> When looking at a weather map showing the air pressure wind speed
>>>> or temperature as field lines does that really mean that air is
>>>> made up of field lines or just being some mathematical construct?
>>>> What if the air is made up of small particles only connected when
>>>> bouncing into each other. The particles then could transfer forces
>>>> just like electric and magnetic fields or gravitational fields.
>>>> T.J.J. See (https://wiki2.org/en/Thomas_Jefferson_Jackson_See) and
>>>> C.A. Bjérknes (https://wiki2.org/en/Carl_Anton_Bjerknes)
>>>> demonstrated that the same laws applied no matter what medium was
>>>> used and thus concluded that there must be some aether behaving
>>>> like gases or liquids. The same conclusion is made by the
>>>> Rhythmodynamics theory: http://mirit.ru/rd_2007en.htm.
>>>>
>>>> Even gravity is united into those kind of theories but still
>>>> missing in classical electromagnetism. Here is a video showing
>>>> levitating objects using sound waves in air: Present: "Levitation
>>>> in a Sound Standing Wave" (11 khz):
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIi5tUupH9c  (3:35). Even though
>>>> the sound waves may be described by using field lines I don't see
>>>> this really describing air or sound as being made of field lines.
>>>> It's just a mathematical construct that can be broken down to
>>>> something even smaller. Field lines are very useful in describing a
>>>> field except when the field lines become discontinuous at some
>>>> intersections.
>>>>
>>>> "https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/30fari/what_is_a_magnetic_field_made_of/   
>>>> Interesting note here  "Take the magnetic field created by the
>>>> earth for example. This field is very big. If virtual photons can
>>>> travel all the way around the field in a time shorter than planck
>>>> time, aren't they moving faster than the speed of light?"   Ah Ha!
>>>>   Super Light, Super luminal velocities."
>>>> This may actually be the case. W.B. Smith couldn't measure any
>>>> delay in the propagation of his tensor beam. His theory tells that
>>>> it carries time along with its length and thus is at the same time
>>>> along its length. What is considered empty space by most of science
>>>> actually has the physical constants of permittivity of vacuum and
>>>> permeability of vacuum as if there is still something physical
>>>> there? The theories that take this into account are probably more
>>>> correct than the ones dismissing such facts. According to the
>>>> theory of Rhythmodynamics there are different modes of wave
>>>> propagation like longitudinal waves behaving like transverse waves
>>>> at some distance from the emitters which could be why light and
>>>> other electromagnetic waves are seen as transverse electromagnetic
>>>> waves.
>>>>
>>>> We may be living in several different densities that propagates
>>>> signals at each their own speed. Glass water air and vacuum have
>>>> each their own density and speed of propagating electromagnetic
>>>> waves. Perhaps there are even less densities than the ones we know.
>>>> John W. Keely claimed that this is the case.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Ole
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---In [email protected], <nwootan@...> wrote :
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4gCTmlm5RQ
>>>>
>>>> On 1/10/2019 6:21 PM, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>> <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>      
>>>>>
>>>>>     Lets look at the actual make up of the magnetic flux lines. 
>>>>>     https://van.physics.illinois.edu/qa/listing.php?id=414
>>>>>
>>>>>     https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/30fari/what_is_a_magnetic_field_made_of/   
>>>>>     Interesting note here  "Take the magnetic field created by the
>>>>>     earth for example. This field is very big. If virtual photons
>>>>>     can travel all the way around the field in a time shorter than
>>>>>     planck time, aren't they moving faster than the speed of
>>>>>     light?"   Ah Ha!   Super Light, Super luminal velocities.
>>>>>
>>>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYA0bntrjsk&feature=youtu.be
>>>>>
>>>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3P-FGw5KUeo&feature=youtu.be
>>>>>
>>>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crfY2vzVMbI&feature=youtu.be
>>>>>
>>>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rst9EcF9ryk&feature=youtu.be
>>>>>
>>>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hk1cOffTgdk&feature=youtu.be  
>>>>>     The Best!
>>>>>
>>>>>     On 1/10/2019 4:55 PM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Thank You, Bert Pool for this new soc.  
>>>>>>     https://scienceblog.com/505176/scientists-inch-closer-to-fusion-energy-with-discovery-of-a-process-that-stabilizes-plasmas/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     On 1/10/2019 7:58 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>>>     <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>       Alfvén wave
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     An *Alfvén wave* is a wave that occurs in a plasma
>>>>>>>     <https://www.plasma-universe.com/Plasma> (or conducting
>>>>>>>     fluid), resulting from the interaction of the magnetic
>>>>>>>     fields and electric currents
>>>>>>>     <https://www.plasma-universe.com/Electric_current> within
>>>>>>>     it, causing an oscillation of the ions. Alfvén wrote in a
>>>>>>>     letter to the journal /Nature/ in 1942:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         "If a conducting liquid is placed in a constant magnetic
>>>>>>>         field, every motion of the liquid gives rise to an
>>>>>>>         E.M.F. which produces electric currents. Owing to the
>>>>>>>         magnetic field, these currents give mechanical forces
>>>>>>>         which change the state of motion of the liquid. Thus a
>>>>>>>         kind of combined electromagnetic-hydrodynamic wave is
>>>>>>>         produced."^[1]
>>>>>>>         <https://www.plasma-universe.com/Alfv%C3%A9n_wave#cite_note-alfven1942-1>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Alfvén waves initiated the field of magnetohydrodynamics
>>>>>>>     <https://www.plasma-universe.com/Magnetohydrodynamics> which
>>>>>>>     subsequently earned Alfvén a Nobel Prize.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Put some thought behind this statement  "A conductive liquid"!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     On 1/10/2019 7:41 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannes_Alfv%C3%A9n    Please
>>>>>>>>     read this mans research and see how he was often rejected
>>>>>>>>     by fellow physicists.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     On 1/10/2019 7:31 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     http://aa.springer.de/papers/7324002/2300449.pdf   Still
>>>>>>>>>     researching the importance of the Alfven waves in plasma.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     On 1/10/2019 6:51 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>     Moray, Jon Gentry and Warren asked pertinent questions
>>>>>>>>>>     regarding velocities, magnetic flux etc. in plasma events
>>>>>>>>>>     so I did a search as to whether Alfven waves have a
>>>>>>>>>>     frequency.  This site pretty well defines a lot of plasma
>>>>>>>>>>     info that we need.   See: 
>>>>>>>>>>     https://www.britannica.com/science/plasma-state-of-matter#ref507092
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>     On 1/10/2019 6:29 AM, Warren Keillor
>>>>>>>>>>     schoonersolsticemoon@...
>>>>>>>>>>     <mailto:schoonersolsticemoon@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>>>>>     Norman
>>>>>>>>>>>     Hooper's work looks very compelling. At his time of
>>>>>>>>>>>     experimentation, super conductors were not a reality as
>>>>>>>>>>>     they are now. The fact that a resistance free conductor
>>>>>>>>>>>     might accelerate  a potential's velocity, after going
>>>>>>>>>>>     through a resistor, suggests an analogy to fluid
>>>>>>>>>>>     dynamics, much like Bernuili's principle application of
>>>>>>>>>>>     a venturi to gases.
>>>>>>>>>>>     The idea of dielectric conductors is a mind smasher,
>>>>>>>>>>>     inverting our entire circuit thoughts.
>>>>>>>>>>>     Generally, pretty radical concepts, in a zone to set us
>>>>>>>>>>>     up for quantum physics thinking. Whew!
>>>>>>>>>>>     Cheers Warren
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>     Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>>>>>>>>>>     <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 3:17 PM, Norman Wootan
>>>>>>>>>>>         nwootan@... <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY]
>>>>>>>>>>>         <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>          
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         Good question Warren!   Nobody really knows how the
>>>>>>>>>>>         potential and current manifest in the conductor
>>>>>>>>>>>         passing through a flux field. Your question is valid
>>>>>>>>>>>         cause there very well may be some sort of reconnect
>>>>>>>>>>>         occurring here. Theory was, that the flux field was
>>>>>>>>>>>         photon stream which enabled pairing to produce
>>>>>>>>>>>         electrons and attending current.  There is still so
>>>>>>>>>>>         much that we don't know but things are getting
>>>>>>>>>>>         interesting.   Read that last doc that I posted for
>>>>>>>>>>>         it is very enlightening on this subject.  See: 
>>>>>>>>>>>         http://www.tfcbooks.com/mall/more/temp/x565-hen.htm  
>>>>>>>>>>>         This is one of Oles  favorites.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         On 1/9/2019 9:09 AM, Warren Keillor
>>>>>>>>>>>         schoonersolsticemoon@...
>>>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:schoonersolsticemoon@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>          
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         Norman
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         I wonder if, in a down to earth , practical manner,
>>>>>>>>>>>>         the connect/re-connect plays a role in, for
>>>>>>>>>>>>         instance, the Kromery, where one slides the magnets
>>>>>>>>>>>>         at right angles to their locked together state.
>>>>>>>>>>>>         Initially, I need both hands to grasp the flywheel
>>>>>>>>>>>>         to turn my Kromery.
>>>>>>>>>>>>         Once turning, one finger's friction on the rim,
>>>>>>>>>>>>         easily rotates the flywheel, regardless of the load.
>>>>>>>>>>>>         Too fast, then eddy currents start warming the
>>>>>>>>>>>>         magnetic coil cores.
>>>>>>>>>>>>         Are we cutting those magnetic lines?
>>>>>>>>>>>>         Cheers Warren
>>>>>>>>>>>>         Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>>>>>>>>>>>         <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>             On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 9:25 AM, Norman Wootan
>>>>>>>>>>>>             nwootan@... <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY]
>>>>>>>>>>>>             <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>             <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>             http://young.caltech.edu/Collisionless_Magnetic_Reconnection.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>             On 1/9/2019 8:21 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             https://phys.org/news/2017-10-hidden-mechanics-magnetic-field-reconnection.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             On 1/9/2019 8:14 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             https://gss.pppl.gov/talks/reconnection%20lecture%201.pdf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             On 1/9/2019 8:09 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007%2F978-94-009-0545-0_14
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Recent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Developments
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Theory
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Reconnection
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Dieter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Biskamp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Max-Planck-Institut
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             fiir
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Plasmaphysik
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             8046
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Garching
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             bei
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Miinchen,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Federal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Republic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Germany
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Abstract
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             talk
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             briefly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             reviews
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             previous
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             stationary
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             models,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             mainly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             configurations
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Petschek
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             type,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             pointing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             shortcomings
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             basic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             failure
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             accounting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             fast
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             reconnection
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             limit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             large
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Reynolds
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             number.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             It
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             shown
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             limit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             relevant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             stationary
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             states
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             exist.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Instead
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             strong
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             small-scale
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             MHD
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             turbulence
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             develops
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             even
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             2D
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             geometry,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             giving
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             rise
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             energy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             dissipation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             reconnection
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             rates
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             independent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             value
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             collisional
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             re-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             sistivity.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Introduction
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             In
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             last
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             decade
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             been realized
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             presence
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             fields
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             ubiquitous
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             phenomenon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             cosmic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             (Message over 64 KB, truncated)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
>

Glad you asked there Mick for almost all of us have our copies of Joseph 
Cater's Book, Awesome Life Force in which he uses the terms Hard 
Electrons vs Soft Electrons.  The Scientific Community take a dim view 
of publications such as this BUT teach, even at MIT that there are hard 
vs Soft electrons??

See; 
https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/6twjgw/eli5_what_are_soft_and_hard_electrons/

MIT lecture on Superposition: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZ3bPUKo5zc&feature=youtu.be

https://www.diffen.com/difference/Electric_Field_vs_Magnetic_Field

To sum up this whole argument, this article says it best 
https://www.differencebetween.com/difference-between-static-and-vs-dynamic-electricity/ 
If it is moving (dynamic) they are hard electrons and carry a magnetic 
field and electric field.  If they are standing still, (no movement) 
they are  Soft Electrons.  Moving charges create fields.  You can charge 
a large capacitor via an influence machine (electrostatic generator) and 
as long as the charge is at rest state, it is static electricity. When 
you discharge the capacitor, the resultant moving of charge (dynamic) 
creates the fields due to moving charge.  This is how I see it.

https://www.plasma-universe.com/Plasma_classification_(types_of_plasma)

I had a friend, Leonard Dorsett that lived at Grapevine, TX by the lake. 
In the evening, just at dusk, the metal roof of his house would glow due 
to a strange ionization soft plasma. We never figured out  this phenomenon.

On 1/11/2019 8:09 PM, Mick [email protected]  wrote:
>
> Norm,
>
> Could you please distill the concept of soft particles? I read the 
> Cater book and for some reason have a disconnect concerning what 
> defines a soft or hard electron etc.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mick
>
>
>
> On 1/11/2019 9:28 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>> http://physics.tutorcircle.com/modern-physics/pair-production.html
>>
>>
>> On 1/11/2019 7:15 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/225697264_A_standing_wave_acoustic_levitation_system_for_large_planar_objects
>>>
>>>
>>> Ja Brink & John ,"Thanks for your comments"! Since I went to 
>>> Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University and am a dual rated aviator 
>>> (rotary wing), I concur with your observation regarding the lift 
>>> multiplication with multiple "counter rotating" rotors for this is 
>>> where the "pair production" of vortices happens which gives an order 
>>> of magnitude gross lift.
>>>
>>> Having studied the large beetles (Rhinobeetle) it is interesting to 
>>> watch in slow motion video, them first cam forward and outward and 
>>> lock their Elytra (Wing cover shell)  "no lift yet", then start 
>>> rotary wing motion which activates the micro cavity structure (under 
>>> side of Elyton) then take off with surprising ease!  The anomalous 
>>> lift is induced by the wing motion air currents under the shells.  
>>> "Pure and simple"!  Look at the video and please note several Elyton 
>>> (shells) laying on table "cup side down" and are not "hovering". 
>>> They are not "glued down to table top" so if the "static" lift 
>>> theory were valid they could not simply lie there motionless!  It 
>>> takes the vortex air  movement to create the eddy flow which in-turn 
>>> activates the AG effects the same as seen in close proximity tornado 
>>> vortex eddy air flows. Please see shells laying cup side down here: 
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HW6uOW4aoJQ
>>>
>>> Dallas tornado 2005, semi trailers suspended in mid air!  (outside 
>>> of tornado vortex).  53 ft. trailer weighing 12,000 #s
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/3/2017 9:52 PM, jabrinka [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>> In the study of flight when using models to determine flight 
>>>> characteristics the models are typically smaller than the aircraft 
>>>> design being studied however the components that make up air remain 
>>>> the same size so... a smaller version will be operating in 
>>>> relatively more dense compressible fluid. This is known as scale 
>>>> effect. When a fish swings its tail to one side a vortex is created 
>>>> as a result. On the return swing the tail has the additional rotary 
>>>> motion (angular momentum) to push against as opposed to a 
>>>> stationary volume of fluid resulting in extra thrust. This explains 
>>>> the increased efficiency of multiple rotors on an aircraft drone or 
>>>> otherwise.
>>>> On the lungan mousetrap buzzer thread, sometime ago 2007ish on this 
>>>> forum a member Gary (the Skipper ) had a design for a long coil 
>>>> with em/back emf collecting coils along its length. I had almost 
>>>> finished my reproduction when the latest spook showed up with 
>>>> several wild geese for me to chase. Lost my house and havent made 
>>>> another coil yet. The buzzer kickback Norm mentioned spelled out 
>>>> for me how Ron Cole's electric car with all the clicking relays 
>>>> must have worked (before he was disappeared). Evidently grounding 
>>>> to the car frame was enough to make a neutral spike of sorts.. 
>>>> heh....heh. Best to all Ja Brink
>>>>
>>>
>>> John!  Watch this video and pay close attention to the "Bird in 
>>> flight part"!    See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcNGwmV1Yio 
>>> "Vortex pair generation via leading edge feathers"  allows bird to 
>>> land "vertically"!
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/3/2017 8:45 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>
>>> John: Sorry! I did not see any evidence of "lift" or anti-gravity 
>>> with "dead bug" parts! What are you referring to with the window 
>>> blind & glue??? I did not see this evidence??  My "pair production 
>>> of counter rotating vortices" is a "dynamic flow" situation and 
>>> contend that you do not have evidence of a "static" no air flow lift 
>>> situation!  Please show me some evidence of a totally "static 
>>> lift".  Sure! the movement of "Elytra" on a table top was shown as 
>>> false due to "electrostatic effects".  I can walk across a polyester 
>>> carpet and pick up a pair of steel tweasers and make the Elyton move 
>>> about via electrostatic charge!  Nothing conclusive here! Show me a 
>>> Elyton hovering in air "static, no air flow" over the table, them I 
>>> will be convinced! Sure there is the "AG" effect when the wings of 
>>> the bug provide the necessary circulating vortex air flow within the 
>>> micro cavities under the Elytra thus giving the anomalous lift we 
>>> all see as evidence that very large bugs, rhinobeatles and 
>>> bumblebees can achieve what the text books prove cannot be done. "Fly"!
>>>
>>> Sometimes it is great to be able to go back and retreive messages 
>>> that are applicable to today's topics.
>>>
>>> On 1/11/2019 6:30 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Ok!   folks, Ole has brought up a very interesting point when 
>>>> comparing the air mass, weather and the phenomenon of levitation, 
>>>> anti-gravity etc. Something that I have been wanting to bring up 
>>>> but the subject is a little far out of the mainstream thinking.  
>>>> Lets look at a profound statement here:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Alfven quote:"If a conducting liquid is placed in a constant 
>>>> magnetic field, every motion of the liquid gives rise to an E.M.F. 
>>>> which produces electric currents. Owing to the magnetic field, 
>>>> these currents give mechanical forces which change the state of 
>>>> motion of the liquid. Thus a kind of combined 
>>>> electromagnetic-hydrodynamic wave is produced.^"
>>>>
>>>> ^
>>>>
>>>> ^
>>>>
>>>> ^Back when I posted the articles on electrostatic generators, I had 
>>>> stated that the 9th grade Science Class explanation for the source 
>>>> of the electrons was believed to be a shearing from the air as the 
>>>> device rotated, example Wimshurst Machine.  WRONG.  I gave you the 
>>>> example of the Felici Electrostatic Generator 
>>>> http://u2.lege.net/newebmasters.com__freeenergy/external_links_from_theverylastpageoftheinternet.com/highvoltage/HVgenerator/HVgenerator.htm 
>>>> Here we have a device that uses pure hydrogen gas at 30 bar 
>>>> pressure as the operating media and produces 2.5 KW at 300KV.   
>>>> CERN is operating an electrostatic generator that has a deep vacuum 
>>>> as the operating media. ??   Ole's example of air is interesting 
>>>> for we have discussed tornadoes and how we observe Anti-gravitic 
>>>> phenomenon at the vortex base due to the  counter  rotating, 
>>>> vortex-anti vortex eddy currents in which we get the Alfven example 
>>>> of Electromagnetic-hydrodynamics.  We see this same example in the 
>>>> Sonodiffuser with the production of the micro cavitation production 
>>>> of vortex-counter vortex producing the photon burst.     Air when 
>>>> ionized is a highly conductive fluid as is water.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ^
>>>>
>>>> ^With a background education in Aerodynamics, I studied the subject 
>>>> as thoroughly as possible an came away with a different Theory.  
>>>> See: https://www.mpoweruk.com/flight_theory.htm. Bernoulli's 
>>>> Principle and Newton's Law of motion do not complete the puzzle.  
>>>> In wind tunnel testing of airfoils, little turfs of string are 
>>>> attached at thousands of points on the upper, lift producing areas 
>>>> of the wing.  There is clear evidence that micro vertices are 
>>>> produced along with the counter vertices and we get a gross 
>>>> production of the anti-gravitic effects as we see in the tornado 
>>>> example. See, I told you that this fly's way outside of mainstream 
>>>> thinking.   The more we examine the evidence, new conclusions 
>>>> spring forth.   Thank You Ole for your question opens a whole new 
>>>> approach into all thing that perturb the Aether.
>>>>
>>>> On 1/10/2019 8:40 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Norman,
>>>>>
>>>>> When looking at a weather map showing the air pressure wind speed 
>>>>> or temperature as field lines does that really mean that air is 
>>>>> made up of field lines or just being some mathematical construct? 
>>>>> What if the air is made up of small particles only connected when 
>>>>> bouncing into each other. The particles then could transfer forces 
>>>>> just like electric and magnetic fields or gravitational fields. 
>>>>> T.J.J. See (https://wiki2.org/en/Thomas_Jefferson_Jackson_See) and 
>>>>> C.A. Bjérknes (https://wiki2.org/en/Carl_Anton_Bjerknes) 
>>>>> demonstrated that the same laws applied no matter what medium was 
>>>>> used and thus concluded that there must be some aether behaving 
>>>>> like gases or liquids. The same conclusion is made by the 
>>>>> Rhythmodynamics theory: http://mirit.ru/rd_2007en.htm.
>>>>>
>>>>> Even gravity is united into those kind of theories but still 
>>>>> missing in classical electromagnetism. Here is a video showing 
>>>>> levitating objects using sound waves in air: Present: "Levitation 
>>>>> in a Sound Standing Wave" (11 khz): 
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIi5tUupH9c (3:35). Even though 
>>>>> the sound waves may be described by using field lines I don't see 
>>>>> this really describing air or sound as being made of field lines. 
>>>>> It's just a mathematical construct that can be broken down to 
>>>>> something even smaller. Field lines are very useful in describing 
>>>>> a field except when the field lines become discontinuous at some 
>>>>> intersections.
>>>>>
>>>>> "https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/30fari/what_is_a_magnetic_field_made_of/ 
>>>>> Interesting note here  "Take the magnetic field created by the 
>>>>> earth for example. This field is very big. If virtual photons can 
>>>>> travel all the way around the field in a time shorter than planck 
>>>>> time, aren't they moving faster than the speed of light?"   Ah Ha! 
>>>>>   Super Light, Super luminal velocities."
>>>>> This may actually be the case. W.B. Smith couldn't measure any 
>>>>> delay in the propagation of his tensor beam. His theory tells that 
>>>>> it carries time along with its length and thus is at the same time 
>>>>> along its length. What is considered empty space by most of 
>>>>> science actually has the physical constants of permittivity of 
>>>>> vacuum and permeability of vacuum as if there is still something 
>>>>> physical there? The theories that take this into account are 
>>>>> probably more correct than the ones dismissing such facts. 
>>>>> According to the theory of Rhythmodynamics there are different 
>>>>> modes of wave propagation like longitudinal waves behaving like 
>>>>> transverse waves at some distance from the emitters which could be 
>>>>> why light and other electromagnetic waves are seen as transverse 
>>>>> electromagnetic waves.
>>>>>
>>>>> We may be living in several different densities that propagates 
>>>>> signals at each their own speed. Glass water air and vacuum have 
>>>>> each their own density and speed of propagating electromagnetic 
>>>>> waves. Perhaps there are even less densities than the ones we 
>>>>> know. John W. Keely claimed that this is the case.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Ole
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---In [email protected], <nwootan@...> wrote :
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4gCTmlm5RQ
>>>>>
>>>>> On 1/10/2019 6:21 PM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... 
>>>>> <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>     Lets look at the actual make up of the magnetic flux lines.
>>>>>>     https://van.physics.illinois.edu/qa/listing.php?id=414
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/30fari/what_is_a_magnetic_field_made_of/
>>>>>>     Interesting note here  "Take the magnetic field created by
>>>>>>     the earth for example. This field is very big. If virtual
>>>>>>     photons can travel all the way around the field in a time
>>>>>>     shorter than planck time, aren't they moving faster than the
>>>>>>     speed of light?"   Ah Ha!   Super Light, Super luminal
>>>>>>     velocities.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYA0bntrjsk&feature=youtu.be
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3P-FGw5KUeo&feature=youtu.be
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crfY2vzVMbI&feature=youtu.be
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rst9EcF9ryk&feature=youtu.be
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hk1cOffTgdk&feature=youtu.be
>>>>>>     The Best!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     On 1/10/2019 4:55 PM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Thank You, Bert Pool for this new soc.
>>>>>>>     https://scienceblog.com/505176/scientists-inch-closer-to-fusion-energy-with-discovery-of-a-process-that-stabilizes-plasmas/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     On 1/10/2019 7:58 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>>>>     <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>       Alfvén wave
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     An *Alfvén wave* is a wave that occurs in a plasma
>>>>>>>>     <https://www.plasma-universe.com/Plasma> (or conducting
>>>>>>>>     fluid), resulting from the interaction of the magnetic
>>>>>>>>     fields and electric currents
>>>>>>>>     <https://www.plasma-universe.com/Electric_current> within
>>>>>>>>     it, causing an oscillation of the ions. Alfvén wrote in a
>>>>>>>>     letter to the journal /Nature/ in 1942:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         "If a conducting liquid is placed in a constant
>>>>>>>>         magnetic field, every motion of the liquid gives rise
>>>>>>>>         to an E.M.F. which produces electric currents. Owing to
>>>>>>>>         the magnetic field, these currents give mechanical
>>>>>>>>         forces which change the state of motion of the liquid.
>>>>>>>>         Thus a kind of combined electromagnetic-hydrodynamic
>>>>>>>>         wave is produced."^[1]
>>>>>>>>         <https://www.plasma-universe.com/Alfv%C3%A9n_wave#cite_note-alfven1942-1>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Alfvén waves initiated the field of magnetohydrodynamics
>>>>>>>>     <https://www.plasma-universe.com/Magnetohydrodynamics>
>>>>>>>>     which subsequently earned Alfvén a Nobel Prize.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Put some thought behind this statement  "A conductive liquid"!!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     On 1/10/2019 7:41 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannes_Alfv%C3%A9n Please
>>>>>>>>>     read this mans research and see how he was often rejected
>>>>>>>>>     by fellow physicists.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     On 1/10/2019 7:31 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>     http://aa.springer.de/papers/7324002/2300449.pdf Still
>>>>>>>>>>     researching the importance of the Alfven waves in plasma.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>     On 1/10/2019 6:51 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>     Moray, Jon Gentry and Warren asked pertinent questions
>>>>>>>>>>>     regarding velocities, magnetic flux etc. in plasma
>>>>>>>>>>>     events so I did a search as to whether Alfven waves have
>>>>>>>>>>>     a frequency.  This site pretty well defines a lot of
>>>>>>>>>>>     plasma info that we need.   See:
>>>>>>>>>>>     https://www.britannica.com/science/plasma-state-of-matter#ref507092
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>     On 1/10/2019 6:29 AM, Warren Keillor
>>>>>>>>>>>     schoonersolsticemoon@...
>>>>>>>>>>>     <mailto:schoonersolsticemoon@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>     Norman
>>>>>>>>>>>>     Hooper's work looks very compelling. At his time of
>>>>>>>>>>>>     experimentation, super conductors were not a reality as
>>>>>>>>>>>>     they are now. The fact that a resistance free conductor
>>>>>>>>>>>>     might accelerate  a potential's velocity, after going
>>>>>>>>>>>>     through a resistor, suggests an analogy to fluid
>>>>>>>>>>>>     dynamics, much like Bernuili's principle application of
>>>>>>>>>>>>     a venturi to gases.
>>>>>>>>>>>>     The idea of dielectric conductors is a mind smasher,
>>>>>>>>>>>>     inverting our entire circuit thoughts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>     Generally, pretty radical concepts, in a zone to set us
>>>>>>>>>>>>     up for quantum physics thinking. Whew!
>>>>>>>>>>>>     Cheers Warren
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>     Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>>>>>>>>>>>     <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 3:17 PM, Norman Wootan
>>>>>>>>>>>>         nwootan@... <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY]
>>>>>>>>>>>>         <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         Good question Warren! Nobody really knows how the
>>>>>>>>>>>>         potential and current manifest in the conductor
>>>>>>>>>>>>         passing through a flux field. Your question is
>>>>>>>>>>>>         valid cause there very well may be some sort of
>>>>>>>>>>>>         reconnect occurring here. Theory was, that the flux
>>>>>>>>>>>>         field was photon stream which enabled pairing to
>>>>>>>>>>>>         produce electrons and attending current. There is
>>>>>>>>>>>>         still so much that we don't know but things are
>>>>>>>>>>>>         getting interesting. Read that last doc that I
>>>>>>>>>>>>         posted for it is very enlightening on this subject.
>>>>>>>>>>>>         See:
>>>>>>>>>>>>         http://www.tfcbooks.com/mall/more/temp/x565-hen.htm
>>>>>>>>>>>>         This is one of Oles favorites.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         On 1/9/2019 9:09 AM, Warren Keillor
>>>>>>>>>>>>         schoonersolsticemoon@...
>>>>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:schoonersolsticemoon@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Norman
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         I wonder if, in a down to earth , practical
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         manner, the connect/re-connect plays a role in,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         for instance, the Kromery, where one slides the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         magnets at right angles to their locked together
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         state.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Initially, I need both hands to grasp the flywheel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         to turn my Kromery.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Once turning, one finger's friction on the rim,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         easily rotates the flywheel, regardless of the load.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Too fast, then eddy currents start warming the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         magnetic coil cores.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Are we cutting those magnetic lines?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Cheers Warren
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 9:25 AM, Norman Wootan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             nwootan@... <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             http://young.caltech.edu/Collisionless_Magnetic_Reconnection.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             On 1/9/2019 8:21 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             https://phys.org/news/2017-10-hidden-mechanics-magnetic-field-reconnection.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             On 1/9/2019 8:14 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             https://gss.pppl.gov/talks/reconnection%20lecture%201.pdf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             On 1/9/2019 8:09 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007%2F978-94-009-0545-0_14
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Recent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Developments
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Theory
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Reconnection
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Dieter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Biskamp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Max-Planck-Institut
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             fiir
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Plasmaphysik
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             8046
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Garching
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             bei
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Miinchen,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Federal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Republic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Germany
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Abstract
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             talk
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             briefly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             reviews
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             previous
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             stationary
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             models,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             mainly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             configurations
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Petschek
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             type,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             pointing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             shortcomings
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             basic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             failure
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             accounting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             fast
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             reconnection
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             limit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             large
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Reynolds
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             number.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             It
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             shown
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             limit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             relevant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             stationary
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             states
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             exist.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Instead
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             strong
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             small-scale
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             MHD
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             turbulence
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             develops
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             even
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             2D
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             geometry,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             giving
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             rise
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             energy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             dissipation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             reconnection
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             rates
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             independent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             value
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             collisional
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             re-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             sistivity.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Introduction
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             In
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             last
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             decade
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             been realized
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             presence
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             fields
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             ubiquitous
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             phenomenon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             cosmic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             (Message over 64 KB, truncated)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>
>

Since it was mentioned in the reddit article: 
https://books.google.com/books/about/The_Ultimate_Reality.html?id=ySsNiCPUPecC

On 1/12/2019 6:28 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Glad you asked there Mick for almost all of us have our copies of 
> Joseph Cater's Book, Awesome Life Force in which he uses the terms 
> Hard Electrons vs Soft Electrons.  The Scientific Community take a dim 
> view of publications such as this BUT teach, even at MIT that there 
> are hard vs Soft electrons??
>
> See; 
> https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/6twjgw/eli5_what_are_soft_and_hard_electrons/
>
> MIT lecture on Superposition: 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZ3bPUKo5zc&feature=youtu.be
>
> https://www.diffen.com/difference/Electric_Field_vs_Magnetic_Field
>
> To sum up this whole argument, this article says it best 
> https://www.differencebetween.com/difference-between-static-and-vs-dynamic-electricity/ 
> If it is moving (dynamic) they are hard electrons and carry a magnetic 
> field and electric field.  If they are standing still,  (no movement) 
> they are  Soft Electrons. Moving charges create fields.  You can 
> charge a large capacitor via an influence machine (electrostatic 
> generator) and as long as the charge is at rest state, it is static 
> electricity. When you discharge the capacitor, the resultant moving of 
> charge (dynamic) creates the fields due to moving charge.  This is how 
> I see it.
>
> https://www.plasma-universe.com/Plasma_classification_(types_of_plasma)
>
> I had a friend, Leonard Dorsett that lived at Grapevine, TX by the 
> lake. In the evening, just at dusk, the metal roof of his house would 
> glow due to a strange ionization soft plasma. We never figured out  
> this phenomenon.
>
> On 1/11/2019 8:09 PM, Mick [email protected] wrote:
>>
>> Norm,
>>
>> Could you please distill the concept of soft particles?  I read the 
>> Cater book and for some reason have a disconnect concerning what 
>> defines a soft or hard electron etc.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Mick
>>
>>
>>
>> On 1/11/2019 9:28 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>> http://physics.tutorcircle.com/modern-physics/pair-production.html
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1/11/2019 7:15 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/225697264_A_standing_wave_acoustic_levitation_system_for_large_planar_objects
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ja Brink & John ,"Thanks for your comments"!  Since I went to 
>>>> Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University and am a dual rated aviator 
>>>> (rotary wing), I concur with your observation regarding the lift 
>>>> multiplication with multiple "counter rotating" rotors for this is 
>>>> where the "pair production" of vortices happens which gives an 
>>>> order of magnitude gross lift.
>>>>
>>>> Having studied the large beetles (Rhinobeetle) it is interesting to 
>>>> watch in slow motion video, them first cam forward and outward and 
>>>> lock their Elytra (Wing cover shell)  "no lift yet", then start 
>>>> rotary wing motion which activates the micro cavity structure 
>>>> (under side of Elyton) then take off with surprising ease!  The 
>>>> anomalous lift is induced by the wing motion air currents under the 
>>>> shells.  "Pure and simple"!  Look at the video and please note 
>>>> several Elyton (shells) laying on table "cup side down" and are not 
>>>> "hovering".  They are not "glued down to table top" so if the 
>>>> "static" lift theory were valid they could not simply lie there 
>>>> motionless! It takes the vortex air  movement to create the eddy 
>>>> flow which in-turn activates the AG effects the same as seen in 
>>>> close proximity tornado vortex eddy air flows.  Please see shells 
>>>> laying cup side down here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HW6uOW4aoJQ
>>>>
>>>> Dallas tornado 2005, semi trailers suspended in mid air!  (outside 
>>>> of tornado vortex).  53 ft. trailer weighing 12,000 #s
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 4/3/2017 9:52 PM, jabrinka [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>> In the study of flight when using models to determine flight 
>>>>> characteristics the models are typically smaller than the aircraft 
>>>>> design being studied however the components that make up air 
>>>>> remain the same size so... a smaller version will be operating in 
>>>>> relatively more dense compressible fluid. This is known as scale 
>>>>> effect. When a fish swings its tail to one side a vortex is 
>>>>> created as a result. On the return swing the tail has the 
>>>>> additional rotary motion (angular momentum) to push against as 
>>>>> opposed to a stationary volume of fluid resulting in extra thrust. 
>>>>> This explains the increased efficiency of multiple rotors on an 
>>>>> aircraft drone or otherwise.
>>>>> On the lungan mousetrap buzzer thread, sometime ago 2007ish on 
>>>>> this forum a member Gary (the Skipper ) had a design for a long 
>>>>> coil with em/back emf collecting coils along its length. I had 
>>>>> almost finished my reproduction when the latest spook showed up 
>>>>> with several wild geese for me to chase. Lost my house and havent 
>>>>> made another coil yet. The buzzer kickback Norm mentioned spelled 
>>>>> out for me how Ron Cole's electric car with all the clicking 
>>>>> relays must have worked (before he was disappeared). Evidently 
>>>>> grounding to the car frame was enough to make a neutral spike of 
>>>>> sorts.. heh....heh. Best to all Ja Brink
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> John!  Watch this video and pay close attention to the "Bird in 
>>>> flight part"! See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcNGwmV1Yio 
>>>> "Vortex pair generation via leading edge feathers"  allows bird to 
>>>> land "vertically"!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 4/3/2017 8:45 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>
>>>> John: Sorry! I did not see any evidence of "lift" or anti-gravity 
>>>> with "dead bug" parts! What are you referring to with the window 
>>>> blind & glue??? I did not see this evidence??  My "pair production 
>>>> of counter rotating vortices" is a "dynamic flow" situation and 
>>>> contend that you do not have evidence of a "static" no air flow 
>>>> lift situation!  Please show me some evidence of a totally "static 
>>>> lift".  Sure! the movement of "Elytra" on a table top was shown as 
>>>> false due to "electrostatic effects".  I can walk across a 
>>>> polyester carpet and pick up a pair of steel tweasers and make the 
>>>> Elyton move about via electrostatic charge!  Nothing conclusive 
>>>> here!  Show me a Elyton hovering in air "static, no air flow" over 
>>>> the table, them I will be convinced!  Sure there is the "AG" effect 
>>>> when the wings of the bug provide the necessary circulating vortex 
>>>> air flow within the micro cavities under the Elytra thus giving the 
>>>> anomalous lift we all see as evidence that very large bugs, 
>>>> rhinobeatles and bumblebees can achieve what the text books prove 
>>>> cannot be done. "Fly"!
>>>>
>>>> Sometimes it is great to be able to go back and retreive messages 
>>>> that are applicable to today's topics.
>>>>
>>>> On 1/11/2019 6:30 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Ok!   folks, Ole has brought up a very interesting point when 
>>>>> comparing the air mass, weather and the phenomenon of levitation, 
>>>>> anti-gravity etc. Something that I have been wanting to bring up 
>>>>> but the subject is a little far out of the mainstream thinking.  
>>>>> Lets look at a profound statement here:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Alfven quote:"If a conducting liquid is placed in a constant 
>>>>> magnetic field, every motion of the liquid gives rise to an E.M.F. 
>>>>> which produces electric currents. Owing to the magnetic field, 
>>>>> these currents give mechanical forces which change the state of 
>>>>> motion of the liquid. Thus a kind of combined 
>>>>> electromagnetic-hydrodynamic wave is produced.^"
>>>>>
>>>>> ^
>>>>>
>>>>> ^
>>>>>
>>>>> ^Back when I posted the articles on electrostatic generators, I 
>>>>> had stated that the 9th grade Science Class explanation for the 
>>>>> source of the electrons was believed to be a shearing from the air 
>>>>> as the device rotated, example Wimshurst Machine.  WRONG.  I gave 
>>>>> you the example of the Felici Electrostatic Generator 
>>>>> http://u2.lege.net/newebmasters.com__freeenergy/external_links_from_theverylastpageoftheinternet.com/highvoltage/HVgenerator/HVgenerator.htm 
>>>>> Here we have a device that uses pure hydrogen gas at 30 bar 
>>>>> pressure as the operating media and produces 2.5 KW at 300KV.   
>>>>> CERN is operating an electrostatic generator that has a deep 
>>>>> vacuum as the operating media. ??   Ole's example of air is 
>>>>> interesting for we have discussed tornadoes and how we observe 
>>>>> Anti-gravitic phenomenon at the vortex base due to the  counter  
>>>>> rotating, vortex-anti vortex eddy currents in which we get the 
>>>>> Alfven example of Electromagnetic-hydrodynamics.  We see this same 
>>>>> example in the Sonodiffuser with the production of the micro 
>>>>> cavitation production of vortex-counter vortex producing the 
>>>>> photon burst.     Air when ionized is a highly conductive fluid as 
>>>>> is water.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ^
>>>>>
>>>>> ^With a background education in Aerodynamics, I studied the 
>>>>> subject as thoroughly as possible an came away with a different 
>>>>> Theory.  See: https://www.mpoweruk.com/flight_theory.htm. 
>>>>> Bernoulli's Principle and Newton's Law of motion do not complete 
>>>>> the puzzle. In wind tunnel testing of airfoils, little turfs of 
>>>>> string are attached at thousands of points on the upper, lift 
>>>>> producing areas of the wing.  There is clear evidence that micro 
>>>>> vertices are produced along with the counter vertices and we get a 
>>>>> gross production of the anti-gravitic effects as we see in the 
>>>>> tornado example.  See, I told you that this fly's way outside of 
>>>>> mainstream thinking.   The more we examine the evidence, new 
>>>>> conclusions spring forth.   Thank You Ole for your question opens 
>>>>> a whole new approach into all thing that perturb the Aether.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 1/10/2019 8:40 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Norman,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When looking at a weather map showing the air pressure wind speed 
>>>>>> or temperature as field lines does that really mean that air is 
>>>>>> made up of field lines or just being some mathematical construct? 
>>>>>> What if the air is made up of small particles only connected when 
>>>>>> bouncing into each other. The particles then could transfer 
>>>>>> forces just like electric and magnetic fields or gravitational 
>>>>>> fields. T.J.J. See 
>>>>>> (https://wiki2.org/en/Thomas_Jefferson_Jackson_See) and C.A. 
>>>>>> Bjérknes (https://wiki2.org/en/Carl_Anton_Bjerknes) demonstrated 
>>>>>> that the same laws applied no matter what medium was used and 
>>>>>> thus concluded that there must be some aether behaving like gases 
>>>>>> or liquids. The same conclusion is made by the Rhythmodynamics 
>>>>>> theory: http://mirit.ru/rd_2007en.htm.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Even gravity is united into those kind of theories but still 
>>>>>> missing in classical electromagnetism. Here is a video showing 
>>>>>> levitating objects using sound waves in air: Present: "Levitation 
>>>>>> in a Sound Standing Wave" (11 khz): 
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIi5tUupH9c (3:35). Even though 
>>>>>> the sound waves may be described by using field lines I don't see 
>>>>>> this really describing air or sound as being made of field lines. 
>>>>>> It's just a mathematical construct that can be broken down to 
>>>>>> something even smaller. Field lines are very useful in describing 
>>>>>> a field except when the field lines become discontinuous at some 
>>>>>> intersections.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/30fari/what_is_a_magnetic_field_made_of/ 
>>>>>> Interesting note here  "Take the magnetic field created by the 
>>>>>> earth for example. This field is very big. If virtual photons can 
>>>>>> travel all the way around the field in a time shorter than planck 
>>>>>> time, aren't they moving faster than the speed of light?" Ah Ha! 
>>>>>>   Super Light, Super luminal velocities."
>>>>>> This may actually be the case. W.B. Smith couldn't measure any 
>>>>>> delay in the propagation of his tensor beam. His theory tells 
>>>>>> that it carries time along with its length and thus is at the 
>>>>>> same time along its length. What is considered empty space by 
>>>>>> most of science actually has the physical constants of 
>>>>>> permittivity of vacuum and permeability of vacuum as if there is 
>>>>>> still something physical there? The theories that take this into 
>>>>>> account are probably more correct than the ones dismissing such 
>>>>>> facts. According to the theory of Rhythmodynamics there are 
>>>>>> different modes of wave propagation like longitudinal waves 
>>>>>> behaving like transverse waves at some distance from the emitters 
>>>>>> which could be why light and other electromagnetic waves are seen 
>>>>>> as transverse electromagnetic waves.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We may be living in several different densities that propagates 
>>>>>> signals at each their own speed. Glass water air and vacuum have 
>>>>>> each their own density and speed of propagating electromagnetic 
>>>>>> waves. Perhaps there are even less densities than the ones we 
>>>>>> know. John W. Keely claimed that this is the case.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> Ole
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---In [email protected], <nwootan@...> wrote :
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4gCTmlm5RQ
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/10/2019 6:21 PM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... 
>>>>>> <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Lets look at the actual make up of the magnetic flux lines.
>>>>>>>     https://van.physics.illinois.edu/qa/listing.php?id=414
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/30fari/what_is_a_magnetic_field_made_of/
>>>>>>>     Interesting note here "Take the magnetic field created by
>>>>>>>     the earth for example. This field is very big. If virtual
>>>>>>>     photons can travel all the way around the field in a time
>>>>>>>     shorter than planck time, aren't they moving faster than the
>>>>>>>     speed of light?"   Ah Ha!   Super Light, Super luminal
>>>>>>>     velocities.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYA0bntrjsk&feature=youtu.be
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3P-FGw5KUeo&feature=youtu.be
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crfY2vzVMbI&feature=youtu.be
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rst9EcF9ryk&feature=youtu.be
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hk1cOffTgdk&feature=youtu.be
>>>>>>>     The Best!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     On 1/10/2019 4:55 PM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Thank You, Bert Pool for this new soc.
>>>>>>>>     https://scienceblog.com/505176/scientists-inch-closer-to-fusion-energy-with-discovery-of-a-process-that-stabilizes-plasmas/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     On 1/10/2019 7:58 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>>>>>     <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>       Alfvén wave
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     An *Alfvén wave* is a wave that occurs in a plasma
>>>>>>>>>     <https://www.plasma-universe.com/Plasma> (or conducting
>>>>>>>>>     fluid), resulting from the interaction of the magnetic
>>>>>>>>>     fields and electric currents
>>>>>>>>>     <https://www.plasma-universe.com/Electric_current> within
>>>>>>>>>     it, causing an oscillation of the ions. Alfvén wrote in a
>>>>>>>>>     letter to the journal /Nature/ in 1942:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         "If a conducting liquid is placed in a constant
>>>>>>>>>         magnetic field, every motion of the liquid gives rise
>>>>>>>>>         to an E.M.F. which produces electric currents. Owing
>>>>>>>>>         to the magnetic field, these currents give mechanical
>>>>>>>>>         forces which change the state of motion of the liquid.
>>>>>>>>>         Thus a kind of combined electromagnetic-hydrodynamic
>>>>>>>>>         wave is produced."^[1]
>>>>>>>>>         <https://www.plasma-universe.com/Alfv%C3%A9n_wave#cite_note-alfven1942-1>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     Alfvén waves initiated the field of magnetohydrodynamics
>>>>>>>>>     <https://www.plasma-universe.com/Magnetohydrodynamics>
>>>>>>>>>     which subsequently earned Alfvén a Nobel Prize.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     Put some thought behind this statement  "A conductive
>>>>>>>>>     liquid"!!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     On 1/10/2019 7:41 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannes_Alfv%C3%A9n Please
>>>>>>>>>>     read this mans research and see how he was often rejected
>>>>>>>>>>     by fellow physicists.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>     On 1/10/2019 7:31 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>     http://aa.springer.de/papers/7324002/2300449.pdf Still
>>>>>>>>>>>     researching the importance of the Alfven waves in plasma.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>     On 1/10/2019 6:51 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>     Moray, Jon Gentry and Warren asked pertinent questions
>>>>>>>>>>>>     regarding velocities, magnetic flux etc. in plasma
>>>>>>>>>>>>     events so I did a search as to whether Alfven waves
>>>>>>>>>>>>     have a frequency. This site pretty well defines a lot
>>>>>>>>>>>>     of plasma info that we need.   See:
>>>>>>>>>>>>     https://www.britannica.com/science/plasma-state-of-matter#ref507092
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>     On 1/10/2019 6:29 AM, Warren Keillor
>>>>>>>>>>>>     schoonersolsticemoon@...
>>>>>>>>>>>>     <mailto:schoonersolsticemoon@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Norman
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Hooper's work looks very compelling. At his time of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     experimentation, super conductors were not a reality
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     as they are now. The fact that a resistance free
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     conductor might accelerate  a potential's velocity,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     after going through a resistor, suggests an analogy to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     fluid dynamics, much like Bernuili's principle
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     application of a venturi to gases.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     The idea of dielectric conductors is a mind smasher,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     inverting our entire circuit thoughts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Generally, pretty radical concepts, in a zone to set
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     us up for quantum physics thinking. Whew!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Cheers Warren
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 3:17 PM, Norman Wootan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         nwootan@... <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Good question Warren! Nobody really knows how the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         potential and current manifest in the conductor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         passing through a flux field. Your question is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         valid cause there very well may be some sort of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         reconnect occurring here. Theory was, that the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         flux field was photon stream which enabled pairing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         to produce electrons and attending current. There
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         is still so much that we don't know but things are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         getting interesting. Read that last doc that I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         posted for it is very enlightening on this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         subject. See:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         http://www.tfcbooks.com/mall/more/temp/x565-hen.htm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         This is one of Oles favorites.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         On 1/9/2019 9:09 AM, Warren Keillor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         schoonersolsticemoon@...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:schoonersolsticemoon@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Norman
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         I wonder if, in a down to earth , practical
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         manner, the connect/re-connect plays a role in,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         for instance, the Kromery, where one slides the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         magnets at right angles to their locked together
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         state.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Initially, I need both hands to grasp the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         flywheel to turn my Kromery.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Once turning, one finger's friction on the rim,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         easily rotates the flywheel, regardless of the load.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Too fast, then eddy currents start warming the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         magnetic coil cores.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Are we cutting those magnetic lines?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Cheers Warren
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 9:25 AM, Norman Wootan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             nwootan@... <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             http://young.caltech.edu/Collisionless_Magnetic_Reconnection.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             On 1/9/2019 8:21 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             https://phys.org/news/2017-10-hidden-mechanics-magnetic-field-reconnection.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             On 1/9/2019 8:14 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             https://gss.pppl.gov/talks/reconnection%20lecture%201.pdf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             On 1/9/2019 8:09 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007%2F978-94-009-0545-0_14
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Recent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Developments
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Theory
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Reconnection
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Dieter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Biskamp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Max-Planck-Institut
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             fiir
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Plasmaphysik
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             8046
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Garching
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             bei
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Miinchen,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Federal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Republic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Germany
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Abstract
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             talk
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             briefly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             reviews
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             previous
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             stationary
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             models,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             mainly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             configurations
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Petschek
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             type,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             pointing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             shortcomings
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             basic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             failure
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             accounting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             fast
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             reconnection
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             limit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             large
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Reynolds
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             number.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             It
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             shown
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             limit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             relevant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             stationary
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             states
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             exist.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Instead
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             strong
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             small-scale
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             MHD
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             turbulence
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             develops
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             even
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             2D
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             geometry,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             giving
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             rise
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             energy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             dissipation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             reconnection
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             rates
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             independent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             value
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             collisional
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             re-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             sistivity.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Introduction
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             In
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             last
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             decade
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             been realized
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             presence
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             fields
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             ubiquitous
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             phenomenon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             cosmic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             (Message over 64 KB, truncated)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>

Bert Pool and Phil will appreciate this little piece of history of my 
research into Tesla back in the 70s.  Before I met the boys of Ft. Worth 
Tesla Coil Builders, I called D C Cox and ordered a plan set for my 
first Tesla Coil. At the time I also asked for plans for a large Van de 
Graff Generator and got a resounding NO! Cox explained the huge 
difference between the two systems. In the Van de Graff you are 
accumulating charge (electrostatic) that when discharged is a 
multi-million volt discharge (DC) that, if you are grounded, flows 
through the body and will kill you deader that hell. The Tesla Coil on 
the other hand is HVAC at high frequency therefore travels over your 
body (skin effect) and will do no harm since the discharge never 
penetrates the body.  Oh!  Take off any metals from your body such as 
bracelets, rings etc. cause the high freq will cause heating and will 
burn you.  I remember my first visit with Bert and Leslie at his 
Teslathon at Irving Texas back in the 80s.

https://vimeo.com/channels/resonanceresearch

https://library.e.abb.com/public/6d17725e73e547d6922c408557562ec4/DC_Resonance%20Analysis%20of%20a%20Hybrid%20HVDC%20System.pdf

A note here that is of interest to Angel and Fredric since they are very 
active in the transmission of HVDC at  megawatt levels. Any system that 
has the basic components of an LC circuit is subject to a resonance 
effect. So do not say "What, Resonance in a DC circuit"???    The 
switching will get you every time. Lol Norm

On 1/12/2019 6:42 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>
> Since it was mentioned in the reddit article: 
> https://books.google.com/books/about/The_Ultimate_Reality.html?id=ySsNiCPUPecC
>
> On 1/12/2019 6:28 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>> Glad you asked there Mick for almost all of us have our copies of 
>> Joseph Cater's Book, Awesome Life Force in which he uses the terms 
>> Hard Electrons vs Soft Electrons.  The Scientific Community take a 
>> dim view of publications such as this BUT teach, even at MIT that 
>> there are hard vs Soft electrons??
>>
>> See; 
>> https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/6twjgw/eli5_what_are_soft_and_hard_electrons/
>>
>> MIT lecture on Superposition: 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZ3bPUKo5zc&feature=youtu.be
>>
>> https://www.diffen.com/difference/Electric_Field_vs_Magnetic_Field
>>
>> To sum up this whole argument, this article says it best 
>> https://www.differencebetween.com/difference-between-static-and-vs-dynamic-electricity/ 
>> If it is moving (dynamic) they are hard electrons and carry a 
>> magnetic field and electric field.  If they are standing still,  (no 
>> movement) they are  Soft Electrons.  Moving charges create fields.  
>> You can charge a large capacitor via an influence machine 
>> (electrostatic generator) and as long as the charge is at rest state, 
>> it is static electricity. When you discharge the capacitor, the 
>> resultant moving of charge (dynamic) creates the fields due to moving 
>> charge.  This is how I see it.
>>
>> https://www.plasma-universe.com/Plasma_classification_(types_of_plasma)
>>
>> I had a friend, Leonard Dorsett that lived at Grapevine, TX by the 
>> lake. In the evening, just at dusk, the metal roof of his house would 
>> glow due to a strange ionization soft plasma. We never figured out  
>> this phenomenon.
>>
>> On 1/11/2019 8:09 PM, Mick [email protected]  wrote:
>>>
>>> Norm,
>>>
>>> Could you please distill the concept of soft particles?  I read the 
>>> Cater book and for some reason have a disconnect concerning what 
>>> defines a soft or hard electron etc.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Mick
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1/11/2019 9:28 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>
>>>> http://physics.tutorcircle.com/modern-physics/pair-production.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 1/11/2019 7:15 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/225697264_A_standing_wave_acoustic_levitation_system_for_large_planar_objects
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ja Brink & John ,"Thanks for your comments"!  Since I went to 
>>>>> Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University and am a dual rated aviator 
>>>>> (rotary wing), I concur with your observation regarding the lift 
>>>>> multiplication with multiple "counter rotating" rotors for this is 
>>>>> where the "pair production" of vortices happens which gives an 
>>>>> order of magnitude gross lift.
>>>>>
>>>>> Having studied the large beetles (Rhinobeetle) it is interesting 
>>>>> to watch in slow motion video, them first cam forward and outward 
>>>>> and lock their Elytra (Wing cover shell)  "no lift yet", then 
>>>>> start rotary wing motion which activates the micro cavity 
>>>>> structure (under side of Elyton) then take off with surprising 
>>>>> ease!  The anomalous lift is induced by the wing motion air 
>>>>> currents under the shells.  "Pure and simple"!  Look at the video 
>>>>> and please note several Elyton (shells) laying on table "cup side 
>>>>> down" and are not "hovering".  They are not "glued down to table 
>>>>> top" so if the "static" lift theory were valid they could not 
>>>>> simply lie there motionless!  It takes the vortex air  movement to 
>>>>> create the eddy flow which in-turn activates the AG effects the 
>>>>> same as seen in close proximity tornado vortex eddy air flows.  
>>>>> Please see shells laying cup side down here: 
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HW6uOW4aoJQ
>>>>>
>>>>> Dallas tornado 2005, semi trailers suspended in mid air!  (outside 
>>>>> of tornado vortex).  53 ft. trailer weighing 12,000 #s
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4/3/2017 9:52 PM, jabrinka [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>> In the study of flight when using models to determine flight 
>>>>>> characteristics the models are typically smaller than the 
>>>>>> aircraft design being studied however the components that make up 
>>>>>> air remain the same size so... a smaller version will be 
>>>>>> operating in relatively more dense compressible fluid. This is 
>>>>>> known as scale effect. When a fish swings its tail to one side a 
>>>>>> vortex is created as a result. On the return swing the tail has 
>>>>>> the additional rotary motion (angular momentum) to push against 
>>>>>> as opposed to a stationary volume of fluid resulting in extra 
>>>>>> thrust. This explains the increased efficiency of multiple rotors 
>>>>>> on an aircraft drone or otherwise.
>>>>>> On the lungan mousetrap buzzer thread, sometime ago 2007ish on 
>>>>>> this forum a member Gary (the Skipper ) had a design for a long 
>>>>>> coil with em/back emf collecting coils along its length. I had 
>>>>>> almost finished my reproduction when the latest spook showed up 
>>>>>> with several wild geese for me to chase. Lost my house and havent 
>>>>>> made another coil yet. The buzzer kickback Norm mentioned spelled 
>>>>>> out for me how Ron Cole's electric car with all the clicking 
>>>>>> relays must have worked (before he was disappeared). Evidently 
>>>>>> grounding to the car frame was enough to make a neutral spike of 
>>>>>> sorts.. heh....heh. Best to all Ja Brink
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> John!  Watch this video and pay close attention to the "Bird in 
>>>>> flight part"! See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcNGwmV1Yio 
>>>>> "Vortex pair generation via leading edge feathers"  allows bird to 
>>>>> land "vertically"!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4/3/2017 8:45 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> John: Sorry! I did not see any evidence of "lift" or anti-gravity 
>>>>> with "dead bug" parts!  What are you referring to with the window 
>>>>> blind & glue??? I did not see this evidence??  My "pair production 
>>>>> of counter rotating vortices" is a "dynamic flow" situation and 
>>>>> contend that you do not have evidence of a "static" no air flow 
>>>>> lift situation!  Please show me some evidence of a totally "static 
>>>>> lift".  Sure! the movement of "Elytra" on a table top was shown as 
>>>>> false due to "electrostatic effects".  I can walk across a 
>>>>> polyester carpet and pick up a pair of steel tweasers and make the 
>>>>> Elyton move about via electrostatic charge! Nothing conclusive 
>>>>> here!  Show me a Elyton hovering in air "static, no air flow" over 
>>>>> the table, them I will be convinced!  Sure there is the "AG" 
>>>>> effect when the wings of the bug provide the necessary circulating 
>>>>> vortex air flow within the micro cavities under the Elytra thus 
>>>>> giving the anomalous lift we all see as evidence that very large 
>>>>> bugs, rhinobeatles and bumblebees can achieve what the text books 
>>>>> prove cannot be done. "Fly"!
>>>>>
>>>>> Sometimes it is great to be able to go back and retreive messages 
>>>>> that are applicable to today's topics.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 1/11/2019 6:30 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ok!   folks, Ole has brought up a very interesting point when 
>>>>>> comparing the air mass, weather and the phenomenon of levitation, 
>>>>>> anti-gravity etc. Something that I have been wanting to bring up 
>>>>>> but the subject is a little far out of the mainstream thinking. 
>>>>>> Lets look at a profound statement here:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alfven quote:"If a conducting liquid is placed in a constant 
>>>>>> magnetic field, every motion of the liquid gives rise to an 
>>>>>> E.M.F. which produces electric currents. Owing to the magnetic 
>>>>>> field, these currents give mechanical forces which change the 
>>>>>> state of motion of the liquid. Thus a kind of combined 
>>>>>> electromagnetic-hydrodynamic wave is produced.^"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ^
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ^
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ^Back when I posted the articles on electrostatic generators, I 
>>>>>> had stated that the 9th grade Science Class explanation for the 
>>>>>> source of the electrons was believed to be a shearing from the 
>>>>>> air as the device rotated, example Wimshurst Machine.  WRONG.  I 
>>>>>> gave you the example of the Felici Electrostatic Generator 
>>>>>> http://u2.lege.net/newebmasters.com__freeenergy/external_links_from_theverylastpageoftheinternet.com/highvoltage/HVgenerator/HVgenerator.htm 
>>>>>> Here we have a device that uses pure hydrogen gas at 30 bar 
>>>>>> pressure as the operating media and produces 2.5 KW at 300KV.   
>>>>>> CERN is operating an electrostatic generator that has a deep 
>>>>>> vacuum as the operating media. ??   Ole's example of air is 
>>>>>> interesting for we have discussed tornadoes and how we observe 
>>>>>> Anti-gravitic phenomenon at the vortex base due to the  counter 
>>>>>> rotating, vortex-anti vortex eddy currents in which we get the 
>>>>>> Alfven example of Electromagnetic-hydrodynamics.  We see this 
>>>>>> same example in the Sonodiffuser with the production of the micro 
>>>>>> cavitation production of vortex-counter vortex producing the 
>>>>>> photon burst.     Air when ionized is a highly conductive fluid 
>>>>>> as is water.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ^
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ^With a background education in Aerodynamics, I studied the 
>>>>>> subject as thoroughly as possible an came away with a different 
>>>>>> Theory.  See: https://www.mpoweruk.com/flight_theory.htm. 
>>>>>> Bernoulli's Principle and Newton's Law of motion do not complete 
>>>>>> the puzzle.  In wind tunnel testing of airfoils, little turfs of 
>>>>>> string are attached at thousands of points on the upper, lift 
>>>>>> producing areas of the wing.  There is clear evidence that micro 
>>>>>> vertices are produced along with the counter vertices and we get 
>>>>>> a gross production of the anti-gravitic effects as we see in the 
>>>>>> tornado example.  See, I told you that this fly's way outside of 
>>>>>> mainstream thinking.   The more we examine the evidence, new 
>>>>>> conclusions spring forth.   Thank You Ole for your question opens 
>>>>>> a whole new approach into all thing that perturb the Aether.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/10/2019 8:40 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Norman,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When looking at a weather map showing the air pressure wind 
>>>>>>> speed or temperature as field lines does that really mean that 
>>>>>>> air is made up of field lines or just being some mathematical 
>>>>>>> construct? What if the air is made up of small particles only 
>>>>>>> connected when bouncing into each other. The particles then 
>>>>>>> could transfer forces just like electric and magnetic fields or 
>>>>>>> gravitational fields. T.J.J. See 
>>>>>>> (https://wiki2.org/en/Thomas_Jefferson_Jackson_See) and C.A. 
>>>>>>> Bjérknes (https://wiki2.org/en/Carl_Anton_Bjerknes) demonstrated 
>>>>>>> that the same laws applied no matter what medium was used and 
>>>>>>> thus concluded that there must be some aether behaving like 
>>>>>>> gases or liquids. The same conclusion is made by the 
>>>>>>> Rhythmodynamics theory: http://mirit.ru/rd_2007en.htm.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Even gravity is united into those kind of theories but still 
>>>>>>> missing in classical electromagnetism. Here is a video showing 
>>>>>>> levitating objects using sound waves in air: Present: 
>>>>>>> "Levitation in a Sound Standing Wave" (11 khz): 
>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIi5tUupH9c (3:35). Even though 
>>>>>>> the sound waves may be described by using field lines I don't 
>>>>>>> see this really describing air or sound as being made of field 
>>>>>>> lines. It's just a mathematical construct that can be broken 
>>>>>>> down to something even smaller. Field lines are very useful in 
>>>>>>> describing a field except when the field lines become 
>>>>>>> discontinuous at some intersections.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/30fari/what_is_a_magnetic_field_made_of/ 
>>>>>>> Interesting note here  "Take the magnetic field created by the 
>>>>>>> earth for example. This field is very big. If virtual photons 
>>>>>>> can travel all the way around the field in a time shorter than 
>>>>>>> planck time, aren't they moving faster than the speed of light?" 
>>>>>>>   Ah Ha!   Super Light, Super luminal velocities."
>>>>>>> This may actually be the case. W.B. Smith couldn't measure any 
>>>>>>> delay in the propagation of his tensor beam. His theory tells 
>>>>>>> that it carries time along with its length and thus is at the 
>>>>>>> same time along its length. What is considered empty space by 
>>>>>>> most of science actually has the physical constants of 
>>>>>>> permittivity of vacuum and permeability of vacuum as if there is 
>>>>>>> still something physical there? The theories that take this into 
>>>>>>> account are probably more correct than the ones dismissing such 
>>>>>>> facts. According to the theory of Rhythmodynamics there are 
>>>>>>> different modes of wave propagation like longitudinal waves 
>>>>>>> behaving like transverse waves at some distance from the 
>>>>>>> emitters which could be why light and other electromagnetic 
>>>>>>> waves are seen as transverse electromagnetic waves.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We may be living in several different densities that propagates 
>>>>>>> signals at each their own speed. Glass water air and vacuum have 
>>>>>>> each their own density and speed of propagating electromagnetic 
>>>>>>> waves. Perhaps there are even less densities than the ones we 
>>>>>>> know. John W. Keely claimed that this is the case.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>> Ole
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ---In [email protected], <nwootan@...> wrote :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4gCTmlm5RQ
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 1/10/2019 6:21 PM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... 
>>>>>>> <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Lets look at the actual make up of the magnetic flux lines.
>>>>>>>>     https://van.physics.illinois.edu/qa/listing.php?id=414
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/30fari/what_is_a_magnetic_field_made_of/
>>>>>>>>     Interesting note here "Take the magnetic field created by
>>>>>>>>     the earth for example. This field is very big. If virtual
>>>>>>>>     photons can travel all the way around the field in a time
>>>>>>>>     shorter than planck time, aren't they moving faster than
>>>>>>>>     the speed of light?"   Ah Ha!   Super Light, Super luminal
>>>>>>>>     velocities.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYA0bntrjsk&feature=youtu.be
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3P-FGw5KUeo&feature=youtu.be
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crfY2vzVMbI&feature=youtu.be
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rst9EcF9ryk&feature=youtu.be
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hk1cOffTgdk&feature=youtu.be
>>>>>>>>     The Best!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     On 1/10/2019 4:55 PM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     Thank You, Bert Pool for this new soc.
>>>>>>>>>     https://scienceblog.com/505176/scientists-inch-closer-to-fusion-energy-with-discovery-of-a-process-that-stabilizes-plasmas/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     On 1/10/2019 7:58 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>>>>>>     <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>       Alfvén wave
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>     An *Alfvén wave* is a wave that occurs in a plasma
>>>>>>>>>>     <https://www.plasma-universe.com/Plasma> (or conducting
>>>>>>>>>>     fluid), resulting from the interaction of the magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>     fields and electric currents
>>>>>>>>>>     <https://www.plasma-universe.com/Electric_current> within
>>>>>>>>>>     it, causing an oscillation of the ions. Alfvén wrote in a
>>>>>>>>>>     letter to the journal /Nature/ in 1942:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         "If a conducting liquid is placed in a constant
>>>>>>>>>>         magnetic field, every motion of the liquid gives rise
>>>>>>>>>>         to an E.M.F. which produces electric currents. Owing
>>>>>>>>>>         to the magnetic field, these currents give mechanical
>>>>>>>>>>         forces which change the state of motion of the
>>>>>>>>>>         liquid. Thus a kind of combined
>>>>>>>>>>         electromagnetic-hydrodynamic wave is produced."^[1]
>>>>>>>>>>         <https://www.plasma-universe.com/Alfv%C3%A9n_wave#cite_note-alfven1942-1>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>     Alfvén waves initiated the field of magnetohydrodynamics
>>>>>>>>>>     <https://www.plasma-universe.com/Magnetohydrodynamics>
>>>>>>>>>>     which subsequently earned Alfvén a Nobel Prize.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>     Put some thought behind this statement  "A conductive
>>>>>>>>>>     liquid"!!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>     On 1/10/2019 7:41 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannes_Alfv%C3%A9n Please
>>>>>>>>>>>     read this mans research and see how he was often
>>>>>>>>>>>     rejected by fellow physicists.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>     On 1/10/2019 7:31 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>     http://aa.springer.de/papers/7324002/2300449.pdf Still
>>>>>>>>>>>>     researching the importance of the Alfven waves in plasma.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>     On 1/10/2019 6:51 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Moray, Jon Gentry and Warren asked pertinent questions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     regarding velocities, magnetic flux etc. in plasma
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     events so I did a search as to whether Alfven waves
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     have a frequency. This site pretty well defines a lot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     of plasma info that we need.   See:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     https://www.britannica.com/science/plasma-state-of-matter#ref507092
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     On 1/10/2019 6:29 AM, Warren Keillor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     schoonersolsticemoon@...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     <mailto:schoonersolsticemoon@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Norman
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Hooper's work looks very compelling. At his time of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     experimentation, super conductors were not a reality
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     as they are now. The fact that a resistance free
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     conductor might accelerate  a potential's velocity,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     after going through a resistor, suggests an analogy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     to fluid dynamics, much like Bernuili's principle
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     application of a venturi to gases.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     The idea of dielectric conductors is a mind smasher,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     inverting our entire circuit thoughts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Generally, pretty radical concepts, in a zone to set
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     us up for quantum physics thinking. Whew!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Cheers Warren
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 3:17 PM, Norman Wootan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         nwootan@... <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Good question Warren! Nobody really knows how the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         potential and current manifest in the conductor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         passing through a flux field. Your question is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         valid cause there very well may be some sort of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         reconnect occurring here. Theory was, that the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         flux field was photon stream which enabled
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         pairing to produce electrons and attending
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         current. There is still so much that we don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         know but things are getting interesting. Read
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         that last doc that I posted for it is very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         enlightening on this subject. See:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         http://www.tfcbooks.com/mall/more/temp/x565-hen.htm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         This is one of Oles favorites.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         On 1/9/2019 9:09 AM, Warren Keillor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         schoonersolsticemoon@...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:schoonersolsticemoon@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Norman
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         I wonder if, in a down to earth , practical
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         manner, the connect/re-connect plays a role in,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         for instance, the Kromery, where one slides the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         magnets at right angles to their locked together
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         state.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Initially, I need both hands to grasp the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         flywheel to turn my Kromery.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Once turning, one finger's friction on the rim,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         easily rotates the flywheel, regardless of the load.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Too fast, then eddy currents start warming the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         magnetic coil cores.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Are we cutting those magnetic lines?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Cheers Warren
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 9:25 AM, Norman Wootan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             nwootan@... <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             http://young.caltech.edu/Collisionless_Magnetic_Reconnection.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             On 1/9/2019 8:21 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             https://phys.org/news/2017-10-hidden-mechanics-magnetic-field-reconnection.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             On 1/9/2019 8:14 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             https://gss.pppl.gov/talks/reconnection%20lecture%201.pdf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             On 1/9/2019 8:09 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007%2F978-94-009-0545-0_14
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Recent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Developments
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Theory
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Reconnection
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Dieter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Biskamp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Max-Planck-Institut
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             fiir
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Plasmaphysik
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             8046
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Garching
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             bei
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Miinchen,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Federal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Republic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Germany
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Abstract
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             talk
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             briefly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             reviews
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             previous
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             stationary
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             models,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             mainly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             configurations
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Petschek
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             type,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             pointing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             shortcomings
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             basic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             failure
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             accounting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             fast
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             reconnection
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             limit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             large
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Reynolds
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             number.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             It
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             shown
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             limit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             relevant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             stationary
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             states
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             exist.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Instead
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             strong
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             small-scale
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             MHD
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             turbulence
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             develops
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             even
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             2D
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             geometry,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             giving
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             rise
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             energy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             dissipation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             reconnection
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             rates
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             independent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             value
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             collisional
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             re-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             sistivity.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Introduction
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             In
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             last
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             decade
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             been realized
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             presence
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             fields
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             ubiquitous
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             phenomenon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             cosmic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             (Message over 64 KB, truncated)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>

Awesome, thanks Norm!

On 1/12/2019 7:28 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> Glad you asked there Mick for almost all of us have our copies of
> Joseph Cater's Book, Awesome Life Force in which he uses the terms
> Hard Electrons vs Soft Electrons.  The Scientific Community take a dim
> view of publications such as this BUT teach, even at MIT that there
> are hard vs Soft electrons??
>
> See;
> https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/6twjgw/eli5_what_are_soft_and_hard_electrons/
>
> MIT lecture on Superposition: 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZ3bPUKo5zc&feature=youtu.be
>
> https://www.diffen.com/difference/Electric_Field_vs_Magnetic_Field
>
> To sum up this whole argument, this article says it best   
> https://www.differencebetween.com/difference-between-static-and-vs-dynamic-electricity/        
> If it is moving (dynamic) they are hard electrons and carry a magnetic
> field and electric field.  If they are standing still,  (no movement)
> they are  Soft Electrons.  Moving charges create fields.  You can
> charge a large capacitor via an influence machine (electrostatic
> generator) and as long as the charge is at rest state, it is static
> electricity. When you discharge the capacitor, the resultant moving of
> charge (dynamic) creates the fields due to moving charge.  This is how
> I see it.
>
> https://www.plasma-universe.com/Plasma_classification_(types_of_plasma)
>
> I had a friend, Leonard Dorsett that lived at Grapevine, TX by the
> lake. In the evening, just at dusk, the metal roof of his house would
> glow due to a strange ionization soft plasma. We never figured out 
> this phenomenon.
>
> On 1/11/2019 8:09 PM, Mick [email protected]  wrote:
>>  
>>
>> Norm,
>>
>> Could you please distill the concept of soft particles?  I read the
>> Cater book and for some reason have a disconnect concerning what
>> defines a soft or hard electron etc.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Mick
>>
>>
>>
>> On 1/11/2019 9:28 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>  
>>>
>>> http://physics.tutorcircle.com/modern-physics/pair-production.html    
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1/11/2019 7:15 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/225697264_A_standing_wave_acoustic_levitation_system_for_large_planar_objects
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ja Brink & John ,"Thanks for your comments"!  Since I went to
>>>> Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University and am a dual rated aviator
>>>> (rotary wing), I concur with your observation regarding the lift
>>>> multiplication with multiple "counter rotating" rotors for this is
>>>> where the "pair production" of vortices happens which gives an
>>>> order of magnitude gross lift.
>>>>
>>>> Having studied the large beetles (Rhinobeetle) it is interesting to
>>>> watch in slow motion video, them first cam forward and outward and
>>>> lock their Elytra (Wing cover shell)  "no lift yet", then start
>>>> rotary wing motion which activates the micro cavity structure
>>>> (under side of Elyton) then take off with surprising ease!  The
>>>> anomalous lift is induced by the wing motion air currents under the
>>>> shells.  "Pure and simple"!  Look at the video and please note
>>>> several Elyton (shells) laying on table "cup side down" and are not
>>>> "hovering".  They are not "glued down to table top" so if the
>>>> "static" lift theory were valid they could not simply lie there
>>>> motionless!  It takes the vortex air  movement to create the eddy
>>>> flow which in-turn activates the AG effects the same as seen in
>>>> close proximity tornado vortex eddy air flows.  Please see shells
>>>> laying cup side down here:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HW6uOW4aoJQ
>>>>
>>>> Dallas tornado 2005, semi trailers suspended in mid air!  (outside
>>>> of tornado vortex).  53 ft. trailer weighing 12,000 #s
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 4/3/2017 9:52 PM, jabrinka [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>  
>>>>> In the study of flight when using models to determine flight
>>>>> characteristics the models are typically smaller than the aircraft
>>>>> design being studied however the components that make up air
>>>>> remain the same size so... a smaller version will be operating in
>>>>> relatively more dense compressible fluid. This is known as scale
>>>>> effect. When a fish swings its tail to one side a vortex is
>>>>> created as a result. On the return swing the tail has the
>>>>> additional rotary motion (angular momentum) to push against as
>>>>> opposed to a stationary volume of fluid resulting in extra thrust.
>>>>> This explains the increased efficiency of multiple rotors on an
>>>>> aircraft drone or otherwise.
>>>>> On the lungan mousetrap buzzer thread, sometime ago 2007ish on
>>>>> this forum a member Gary (the Skipper ) had a design for a long
>>>>> coil with em/back emf collecting coils along its length. I had
>>>>> almost finished my reproduction when the latest spook showed up
>>>>> with several wild geese for me to chase. Lost my house and havent
>>>>> made another coil yet. The buzzer kickback Norm mentioned spelled
>>>>> out for me how Ron Cole's electric car with all the clicking
>>>>> relays must have worked (before he was disappeared). Evidently
>>>>> grounding to the car frame was enough to make a neutral spike of
>>>>> sorts.. heh....heh. Best to all Ja Brink
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> John!  Watch this video and pay close attention to the "Bird in
>>>> flight part"!    See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcNGwmV1Yio  
>>>> "Vortex pair generation via leading edge feathers"  allows bird to
>>>> land "vertically"!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 4/3/2017 8:45 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>
>>>> John: Sorry! I did not see any evidence of "lift" or anti-gravity
>>>> with "dead bug" parts!  What are you referring to with the window
>>>> blind & glue??? I did not see this evidence??  My "pair production
>>>> of counter rotating vortices" is a "dynamic flow" situation and
>>>> contend that you do not have evidence of a "static" no air flow
>>>> lift situation!  Please show me some evidence of a totally "static
>>>> lift".  Sure! the movement of "Elytra" on a table top was shown as
>>>> false due to "electrostatic effects".  I can walk across a
>>>> polyester carpet and pick up a pair of steel tweasers and make the
>>>> Elyton move about via electrostatic charge!  Nothing conclusive
>>>> here!  Show me a Elyton hovering in air "static, no air flow" over
>>>> the table, them I will be convinced!  Sure there is the "AG" effect
>>>> when the wings of the bug provide the necessary circulating vortex
>>>> air flow within the micro cavities under the Elytra thus giving the
>>>> anomalous lift we all see as evidence that very large bugs,
>>>> rhinobeatles and bumblebees can achieve what the text books prove
>>>> cannot be done. "Fly"!  
>>>>
>>>> Sometimes it is great to be able to go back and retreive messages
>>>> that are applicable to today's topics.
>>>>
>>>> On 1/11/2019 6:30 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>> Ok!   folks, Ole has brought up a very interesting point when
>>>>> comparing the air mass, weather and the phenomenon of levitation,
>>>>> anti-gravity etc. Something that I have been wanting to bring up
>>>>> but the subject is a little far out of the mainstream thinking. 
>>>>> Lets look at a profound statement here:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Alfven quote:"If a conducting liquid is placed in a constant
>>>>> magnetic field, every motion of the liquid gives rise to an E.M.F.
>>>>> which produces electric currents. Owing to the magnetic field,
>>>>> these currents give mechanical forces which change the state of
>>>>> motion of the liquid. Thus a kind of combined
>>>>> electromagnetic-hydrodynamic wave is produced.^"
>>>>>
>>>>> ^
>>>>>
>>>>> ^
>>>>>
>>>>> ^Back when I posted the articles on electrostatic generators, I
>>>>> had stated that the 9th grade Science Class explanation for the
>>>>> source of the electrons was believed to be a shearing from the air
>>>>> as the device rotated, example Wimshurst Machine.  WRONG.  I gave
>>>>> you the example of the Felici Electrostatic Generator  
>>>>> http://u2.lege.net/newebmasters.com__freeenergy/external_links_from_theverylastpageoftheinternet.com/highvoltage/HVgenerator/HVgenerator.htm  
>>>>> Here we have a device that uses pure hydrogen gas at 30 bar
>>>>> pressure as the operating media and produces 2.5 KW at 300KV.  
>>>>> CERN is operating an electrostatic generator that has a deep
>>>>> vacuum as the operating media. ??   Ole's example of air is
>>>>> interesting for we have discussed tornadoes and how we observe
>>>>> Anti-gravitic phenomenon at the vortex base due to the  counter 
>>>>> rotating, vortex-anti vortex eddy currents in which we get the
>>>>> Alfven example of Electromagnetic-hydrodynamics.  We see this same
>>>>> example in the Sonodiffuser with the production of the micro
>>>>> cavitation production of vortex-counter vortex producing the
>>>>> photon burst.     Air when ionized is a highly conductive fluid as
>>>>> is water.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ^
>>>>>
>>>>> ^With a background education in Aerodynamics, I studied the
>>>>> subject as thoroughly as possible an came away with a different
>>>>> Theory.  See: https://www.mpoweruk.com/flight_theory.htm.   
>>>>> Bernoulli's Principle and Newton's Law of motion do not complete
>>>>> the puzzle.  In wind tunnel testing of airfoils, little turfs of
>>>>> string are attached at thousands of points on the upper, lift
>>>>> producing areas of the wing.  There is clear evidence that micro
>>>>> vertices are produced along with the counter vertices and we get a
>>>>> gross production of the anti-gravitic effects as we see in the
>>>>> tornado example.  See, I told you that this fly's way outside of
>>>>> mainstream thinking.   The more we examine the evidence, new
>>>>> conclusions spring forth.   Thank You Ole for your question opens
>>>>> a whole new approach into all thing that perturb the Aether.
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>> On 1/10/2019 8:40 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Norman,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When looking at a weather map showing the air pressure wind speed
>>>>>> or temperature as field lines does that really mean that air is
>>>>>> made up of field lines or just being some mathematical construct?
>>>>>> What if the air is made up of small particles only connected when
>>>>>> bouncing into each other. The particles then could transfer
>>>>>> forces just like electric and magnetic fields or gravitational
>>>>>> fields. T.J.J. See
>>>>>> (https://wiki2.org/en/Thomas_Jefferson_Jackson_See) and C.A.
>>>>>> Bjérknes (https://wiki2.org/en/Carl_Anton_Bjerknes) demonstrated
>>>>>> that the same laws applied no matter what medium was used and
>>>>>> thus concluded that there must be some aether behaving like gases
>>>>>> or liquids. The same conclusion is made by the Rhythmodynamics
>>>>>> theory: http://mirit.ru/rd_2007en.htm.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Even gravity is united into those kind of theories but still
>>>>>> missing in classical electromagnetism. Here is a video showing
>>>>>> levitating objects using sound waves in air: Present: "Levitation
>>>>>> in a Sound Standing Wave" (11 khz):
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIi5tUupH9c  (3:35). Even though
>>>>>> the sound waves may be described by using field lines I don't see
>>>>>> this really describing air or sound as being made of field lines.
>>>>>> It's just a mathematical construct that can be broken down to
>>>>>> something even smaller. Field lines are very useful in describing
>>>>>> a field except when the field lines become discontinuous at some
>>>>>> intersections.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/30fari/what_is_a_magnetic_field_made_of/   
>>>>>> Interesting note here  "Take the magnetic field created by the
>>>>>> earth for example. This field is very big. If virtual photons can
>>>>>> travel all the way around the field in a time shorter than planck
>>>>>> time, aren't they moving faster than the speed of light?"   Ah
>>>>>> Ha!   Super Light, Super luminal velocities."
>>>>>> This may actually be the case. W.B. Smith couldn't measure any
>>>>>> delay in the propagation of his tensor beam. His theory tells
>>>>>> that it carries time along with its length and thus is at the
>>>>>> same time along its length. What is considered empty space by
>>>>>> most of science actually has the physical constants of
>>>>>> permittivity of vacuum and permeability of vacuum as if there is
>>>>>> still something physical there? The theories that take this into
>>>>>> account are probably more correct than the ones dismissing such
>>>>>> facts. According to the theory of Rhythmodynamics there are
>>>>>> different modes of wave propagation like longitudinal waves
>>>>>> behaving like transverse waves at some distance from the emitters
>>>>>> which could be why light and other electromagnetic waves are seen
>>>>>> as transverse electromagnetic waves.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We may be living in several different densities that propagates
>>>>>> signals at each their own speed. Glass water air and vacuum have
>>>>>> each their own density and speed of propagating electromagnetic
>>>>>> waves. Perhaps there are even less densities than the ones we
>>>>>> know. John W. Keely claimed that this is the case.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> Ole
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---In [email protected], <nwootan@...> wrote :
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4gCTmlm5RQ
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/10/2019 6:21 PM, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>>> <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Lets look at the actual make up of the magnetic flux lines. 
>>>>>>>     https://van.physics.illinois.edu/qa/listing.php?id=414
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/30fari/what_is_a_magnetic_field_made_of/   
>>>>>>>     Interesting note here  "Take the magnetic field created by
>>>>>>>     the earth for example. This field is very big. If virtual
>>>>>>>     photons can travel all the way around the field in a time
>>>>>>>     shorter than planck time, aren't they moving faster than the
>>>>>>>     speed of light?"   Ah Ha!   Super Light, Super luminal
>>>>>>>     velocities.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYA0bntrjsk&feature=youtu.be
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3P-FGw5KUeo&feature=youtu.be
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crfY2vzVMbI&feature=youtu.be
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rst9EcF9ryk&feature=youtu.be
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hk1cOffTgdk&feature=youtu.be  
>>>>>>>     The Best!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     On 1/10/2019 4:55 PM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Thank You, Bert Pool for this new soc.  
>>>>>>>>     https://scienceblog.com/505176/scientists-inch-closer-to-fusion-energy-with-discovery-of-a-process-that-stabilizes-plasmas/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     On 1/10/2019 7:58 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>>>>>     <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>       Alfvén wave
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     An *Alfvén wave* is a wave that occurs in a plasma
>>>>>>>>>     <https://www.plasma-universe.com/Plasma> (or conducting
>>>>>>>>>     fluid), resulting from the interaction of the magnetic
>>>>>>>>>     fields and electric currents
>>>>>>>>>     <https://www.plasma-universe.com/Electric_current> within
>>>>>>>>>     it, causing an oscillation of the ions. Alfvén wrote in a
>>>>>>>>>     letter to the journal /Nature/ in 1942:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         "If a conducting liquid is placed in a constant
>>>>>>>>>         magnetic field, every motion of the liquid gives rise
>>>>>>>>>         to an E.M.F. which produces electric currents. Owing
>>>>>>>>>         to the magnetic field, these currents give mechanical
>>>>>>>>>         forces which change the state of motion of the liquid.
>>>>>>>>>         Thus a kind of combined electromagnetic-hydrodynamic
>>>>>>>>>         wave is produced."^[1]
>>>>>>>>>         <https://www.plasma-universe.com/Alfv%C3%A9n_wave#cite_note-alfven1942-1>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     Alfvén waves initiated the field of magnetohydrodynamics
>>>>>>>>>     <https://www.plasma-universe.com/Magnetohydrodynamics>
>>>>>>>>>     which subsequently earned Alfvén a Nobel Prize.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     Put some thought behind this statement  "A conductive
>>>>>>>>>     liquid"!!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     On 1/10/2019 7:41 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannes_Alfv%C3%A9n   
>>>>>>>>>>     Please read this mans research and see how he was often
>>>>>>>>>>     rejected by fellow physicists.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>     On 1/10/2019 7:31 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>     http://aa.springer.de/papers/7324002/2300449.pdf   Still
>>>>>>>>>>>     researching the importance of the Alfven waves in plasma.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>     On 1/10/2019 6:51 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>     Moray, Jon Gentry and Warren asked pertinent questions
>>>>>>>>>>>>     regarding velocities, magnetic flux etc. in plasma
>>>>>>>>>>>>     events so I did a search as to whether Alfven waves
>>>>>>>>>>>>     have a frequency.  This site pretty well defines a lot
>>>>>>>>>>>>     of plasma info that we need.   See: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>     https://www.britannica.com/science/plasma-state-of-matter#ref507092
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>     On 1/10/2019 6:29 AM, Warren Keillor
>>>>>>>>>>>>     schoonersolsticemoon@...
>>>>>>>>>>>>     <mailto:schoonersolsticemoon@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Norman
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Hooper's work looks very compelling. At his time of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     experimentation, super conductors were not a reality
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     as they are now. The fact that a resistance free
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     conductor might accelerate  a potential's velocity,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     after going through a resistor, suggests an analogy to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     fluid dynamics, much like Bernuili's principle
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     application of a venturi to gases.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     The idea of dielectric conductors is a mind smasher,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     inverting our entire circuit thoughts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Generally, pretty radical concepts, in a zone to set
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     us up for quantum physics thinking. Whew!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Cheers Warren
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 3:17 PM, Norman Wootan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         nwootan@... <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>          
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Good question Warren!   Nobody really knows how
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         the potential and current manifest in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         conductor passing through a flux field. Your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         question is valid cause there very well may be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         some sort of reconnect occurring here. Theory was,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         that the flux field was photon stream which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         enabled pairing to produce electrons and attending
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         current.  There is still so much that we don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         know but things are getting interesting.   Read
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         that last doc that I posted for it is very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         enlightening on this subject.  See: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         http://www.tfcbooks.com/mall/more/temp/x565-hen.htm  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         This is one of Oles  favorites.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         On 1/9/2019 9:09 AM, Warren Keillor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         schoonersolsticemoon@...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:schoonersolsticemoon@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Norman
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         I wonder if, in a down to earth , practical
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         manner, the connect/re-connect plays a role in,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         for instance, the Kromery, where one slides the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         magnets at right angles to their locked together
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         state.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Initially, I need both hands to grasp the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         flywheel to turn my Kromery.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Once turning, one finger's friction on the rim,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         easily rotates the flywheel, regardless of the load.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Too fast, then eddy currents start warming the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         magnetic coil cores.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Are we cutting those magnetic lines?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Cheers Warren
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 9:25 AM, Norman Wootan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             nwootan@... <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             http://young.caltech.edu/Collisionless_Magnetic_Reconnection.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             On 1/9/2019 8:21 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             https://phys.org/news/2017-10-hidden-mechanics-magnetic-field-reconnection.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             On 1/9/2019 8:14 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             https://gss.pppl.gov/talks/reconnection%20lecture%201.pdf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             On 1/9/2019 8:09 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007%2F978-94-009-0545-0_14
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Recent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Developments
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Theory
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Reconnection
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Dieter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Biskamp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Max-Planck-Institut
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             fiir
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Plasmaphysik
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             8046
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Garching
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             bei
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Miinchen,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Federal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Republic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Germany
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Abstract
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             talk
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             briefly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             reviews
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             previous
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             stationary
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             models,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             mainly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             configurations
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Petschek
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             type,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             pointing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             shortcomings
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             basic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             failure
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             accounting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             fast
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             reconnection
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             limit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             large
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Reynolds
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             number.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             It
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             shown
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             limit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             relevant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             stationary
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             states
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             exist.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Instead
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             strong
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             small-scale
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             MHD
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             turbulence
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             develops
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             even
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             2D
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             geometry,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             giving
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             rise
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             energy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             dissipation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             reconnection
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             rates
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             independent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             value
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             collisional
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             re-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             sistivity.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Introduction
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             In
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             last
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             decade
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             been realized
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             presence
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             fields
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             ubiquitous
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             phenomenon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             cosmic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             (Message over 64 KB, truncated)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>

Concerning the DC grid, I was told by an engineer that two inverters
tied between one of these giant DC transmission lines need to be set as
master and slave due to switching interference.  Wouldn't there be an
easy way to decouple the switching modulations from the TL?  Good
question for Ole!

On 1/12/2019 8:19 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> Bert Pool and Phil will appreciate this little piece of history of my
> research into Tesla back in the 70s.  Before I met the boys of Ft.
> Worth Tesla Coil Builders, I called D C Cox and ordered a plan set for
> my first Tesla Coil. At the time I also asked for plans for a large
> Van de Graff Generator and got a resounding NO!  Cox explained the
> huge difference between the two systems. In the Van de Graff you are
> accumulating charge (electrostatic) that when discharged is a
> multi-million volt discharge (DC) that, if you are grounded, flows
> through the body and will kill you deader that hell. The Tesla Coil on
> the other hand is HVAC at high frequency therefore travels over your
> body (skin effect) and will do no harm since the discharge never
> penetrates the body.  Oh!  Take off any metals from your body such as
> bracelets, rings etc. cause the high freq will cause heating and will
> burn you.  I remember my first visit with Bert and Leslie at his
> Teslathon at Irving Texas back in the 80s.
>
> https://vimeo.com/channels/resonanceresearch
>
> https://library.e.abb.com/public/6d17725e73e547d6922c408557562ec4/DC_Resonance%20Analysis%20of%20a%20Hybrid%20HVDC%20System.pdf
>
> A note here that is of interest to Angel and Fredric since they are
> very active in the transmission of HVDC at  megawatt levels. Any
> system that has the basic components of an LC circuit is subject to a
> resonance effect. So do not say "What, Resonance in a DC
> circuit"???    The switching will get you every time. Lol    Norm
>
> On 1/12/2019 6:42 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>
>> Since it was mentioned in the reddit article:  
>> https://books.google.com/books/about/The_Ultimate_Reality.html?id=ySsNiCPUPecC
>>
>> On 1/12/2019 6:28 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>  
>>>
>>> Glad you asked there Mick for almost all of us have our copies of
>>> Joseph Cater's Book, Awesome Life Force in which he uses the terms
>>> Hard Electrons vs Soft Electrons.  The Scientific Community take a
>>> dim view of publications such as this BUT teach, even at MIT that
>>> there are hard vs Soft electrons??
>>>
>>> See;
>>> https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/6twjgw/eli5_what_are_soft_and_hard_electrons/
>>>
>>> MIT lecture on Superposition: 
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZ3bPUKo5zc&feature=youtu.be
>>>
>>> https://www.diffen.com/difference/Electric_Field_vs_Magnetic_Field
>>>
>>> To sum up this whole argument, this article says it best   
>>> https://www.differencebetween.com/difference-between-static-and-vs-dynamic-electricity/        
>>> If it is moving (dynamic) they are hard electrons and carry a
>>> magnetic field and electric field.  If they are standing still,  (no
>>> movement) they are  Soft Electrons.  Moving charges create fields. 
>>> You can charge a large capacitor via an influence machine
>>> (electrostatic generator) and as long as the charge is at rest
>>> state, it is static electricity. When you discharge the capacitor,
>>> the resultant moving of charge (dynamic) creates the fields due to
>>> moving charge.  This is how I see it.
>>>
>>> https://www.plasma-universe.com/Plasma_classification_(types_of_plasma)
>>>
>>> I had a friend, Leonard Dorsett that lived at Grapevine, TX by the
>>> lake. In the evening, just at dusk, the metal roof of his house
>>> would glow due to a strange ionization soft plasma. We never figured
>>> out  this phenomenon.
>>>
>>> On 1/11/2019 8:09 PM, Mick [email protected]  wrote:
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> Norm,
>>>>
>>>> Could you please distill the concept of soft particles?  I read the
>>>> Cater book and for some reason have a disconnect concerning what
>>>> defines a soft or hard electron etc.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Mick
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 1/11/2019 9:28 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>> http://physics.tutorcircle.com/modern-physics/pair-production.html    
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 1/11/2019 7:15 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/225697264_A_standing_wave_acoustic_levitation_system_for_large_planar_objects
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ja Brink & John ,"Thanks for your comments"!  Since I went to
>>>>>> Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University and am a dual rated aviator
>>>>>> (rotary wing), I concur with your observation regarding the lift
>>>>>> multiplication with multiple "counter rotating" rotors for this
>>>>>> is where the "pair production" of vortices happens which gives an
>>>>>> order of magnitude gross lift.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Having studied the large beetles (Rhinobeetle) it is interesting
>>>>>> to watch in slow motion video, them first cam forward and outward
>>>>>> and lock their Elytra (Wing cover shell)  "no lift yet", then
>>>>>> start rotary wing motion which activates the micro cavity
>>>>>> structure (under side of Elyton) then take off with surprising
>>>>>> ease!  The anomalous lift is induced by the wing motion air
>>>>>> currents under the shells.  "Pure and simple"!  Look at the video
>>>>>> and please note several Elyton (shells) laying on table "cup side
>>>>>> down" and are not "hovering".  They are not "glued down to table
>>>>>> top" so if the "static" lift theory were valid they could not
>>>>>> simply lie there motionless!  It takes the vortex air  movement
>>>>>> to create the eddy flow which in-turn activates the AG effects
>>>>>> the same as seen in close proximity tornado vortex eddy air
>>>>>> flows.  Please see shells laying cup side down here: 
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HW6uOW4aoJQ
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dallas tornado 2005, semi trailers suspended in mid air! 
>>>>>> (outside of tornado vortex).  53 ft. trailer weighing 12,000 #s
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/3/2017 9:52 PM, jabrinka [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> In the study of flight when using models to determine flight
>>>>>>> characteristics the models are typically smaller than the
>>>>>>> aircraft design being studied however the components that make
>>>>>>> up air remain the same size so... a smaller version will be
>>>>>>> operating in relatively more dense compressible fluid. This is
>>>>>>> known as scale effect. When a fish swings its tail to one side a
>>>>>>> vortex is created as a result. On the return swing the tail has
>>>>>>> the additional rotary motion (angular momentum) to push against
>>>>>>> as opposed to a stationary volume of fluid resulting in extra
>>>>>>> thrust. This explains the increased efficiency of multiple
>>>>>>> rotors on an aircraft drone or otherwise.
>>>>>>> On the lungan mousetrap buzzer thread, sometime ago 2007ish on
>>>>>>> this forum a member Gary (the Skipper ) had a design for a long
>>>>>>> coil with em/back emf collecting coils along its length. I had
>>>>>>> almost finished my reproduction when the latest spook showed up
>>>>>>> with several wild geese for me to chase. Lost my house and
>>>>>>> havent made another coil yet. The buzzer kickback Norm mentioned
>>>>>>> spelled out for me how Ron Cole's electric car with all the
>>>>>>> clicking relays must have worked (before he was disappeared).
>>>>>>> Evidently grounding to the car frame was enough to make a
>>>>>>> neutral spike of sorts.. heh....heh. Best to all Ja Brink
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John!  Watch this video and pay close attention to the "Bird in
>>>>>> flight part"!    See:
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcNGwmV1Yio   "Vortex pair
>>>>>> generation via leading edge feathers"  allows bird to land
>>>>>> "vertically"!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/3/2017 8:45 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John: Sorry! I did not see any evidence of "lift" or anti-gravity
>>>>>> with "dead bug" parts!  What are you referring to with the window
>>>>>> blind & glue??? I did not see this evidence??  My "pair
>>>>>> production of counter rotating vortices" is a "dynamic flow"
>>>>>> situation and contend that you do not have evidence of a "static"
>>>>>> no air flow lift situation!  Please show me some evidence of a
>>>>>> totally "static lift".  Sure! the movement of "Elytra" on a table
>>>>>> top was shown as false due to "electrostatic effects".  I can
>>>>>> walk across a polyester carpet and pick up a pair of steel
>>>>>> tweasers and make the Elyton move about via electrostatic
>>>>>> charge!  Nothing conclusive here!  Show me a Elyton hovering in
>>>>>> air "static, no air flow" over the table, them I will be
>>>>>> convinced!  Sure there is the "AG" effect when the wings of the
>>>>>> bug provide the necessary circulating vortex air flow within the
>>>>>> micro cavities under the Elytra thus giving the anomalous lift we
>>>>>> all see as evidence that very large bugs, rhinobeatles and
>>>>>> bumblebees can achieve what the text books prove cannot be done.
>>>>>> "Fly"!  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sometimes it is great to be able to go back and retreive messages
>>>>>> that are applicable to today's topics.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/11/2019 6:30 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ok!   folks, Ole has brought up a very interesting point when
>>>>>>> comparing the air mass, weather and the phenomenon of
>>>>>>> levitation, anti-gravity etc. Something that I have been wanting
>>>>>>> to bring up but the subject is a little far out of the
>>>>>>> mainstream thinking.  Lets look at a profound statement here:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alfven quote:"If a conducting liquid is placed in a constant
>>>>>>> magnetic field, every motion of the liquid gives rise to an
>>>>>>> E.M.F. which produces electric currents. Owing to the magnetic
>>>>>>> field, these currents give mechanical forces which change the
>>>>>>> state of motion of the liquid. Thus a kind of combined
>>>>>>> electromagnetic-hydrodynamic wave is produced.^"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ^
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ^
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ^Back when I posted the articles on electrostatic generators, I
>>>>>>> had stated that the 9th grade Science Class explanation for the
>>>>>>> source of the electrons was believed to be a shearing from the
>>>>>>> air as the device rotated, example Wimshurst Machine.  WRONG.  I
>>>>>>> gave you the example of the Felici Electrostatic Generator  
>>>>>>> http://u2.lege.net/newebmasters.com__freeenergy/external_links_from_theverylastpageoftheinternet.com/highvoltage/HVgenerator/HVgenerator.htm  
>>>>>>> Here we have a device that uses pure hydrogen gas at 30 bar
>>>>>>> pressure as the operating media and produces 2.5 KW at 300KV.  
>>>>>>> CERN is operating an electrostatic generator that has a deep
>>>>>>> vacuum as the operating media. ??   Ole's example of air is
>>>>>>> interesting for we have discussed tornadoes and how we observe
>>>>>>> Anti-gravitic phenomenon at the vortex base due to the  counter 
>>>>>>> rotating, vortex-anti vortex eddy currents in which we get the
>>>>>>> Alfven example of Electromagnetic-hydrodynamics.  We see this
>>>>>>> same example in the Sonodiffuser with the production of the
>>>>>>> micro cavitation production of vortex-counter vortex producing
>>>>>>> the photon burst.     Air when ionized is a highly conductive
>>>>>>> fluid as is water.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ^
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ^With a background education in Aerodynamics, I studied the
>>>>>>> subject as thoroughly as possible an came away with a different
>>>>>>> Theory.  See: https://www.mpoweruk.com/flight_theory.htm.   
>>>>>>> Bernoulli's Principle and Newton's Law of motion do not complete
>>>>>>> the puzzle.  In wind tunnel testing of airfoils, little turfs of
>>>>>>> string are attached at thousands of points on the upper, lift
>>>>>>> producing areas of the wing.  There is clear evidence that micro
>>>>>>> vertices are produced along with the counter vertices and we get
>>>>>>> a gross production of the anti-gravitic effects as we see in the
>>>>>>> tornado example.  See, I told you that this fly's way outside of
>>>>>>> mainstream thinking.   The more we examine the evidence, new
>>>>>>> conclusions spring forth.   Thank You Ole for your question
>>>>>>> opens a whole new approach into all thing that perturb the Aether.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 1/10/2019 8:40 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Norman,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When looking at a weather map showing the air pressure wind
>>>>>>>> speed or temperature as field lines does that really mean that
>>>>>>>> air is made up of field lines or just being some mathematical
>>>>>>>> construct? What if the air is made up of small particles only
>>>>>>>> connected when bouncing into each other. The particles then
>>>>>>>> could transfer forces just like electric and magnetic fields or
>>>>>>>> gravitational fields. T.J.J. See
>>>>>>>> (https://wiki2.org/en/Thomas_Jefferson_Jackson_See) and C.A.
>>>>>>>> Bjérknes (https://wiki2.org/en/Carl_Anton_Bjerknes)
>>>>>>>> demonstrated that the same laws applied no matter what medium
>>>>>>>> was used and thus concluded that there must be some aether
>>>>>>>> behaving like gases or liquids. The same conclusion is made by
>>>>>>>> the Rhythmodynamics theory: http://mirit.ru/rd_2007en.htm.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Even gravity is united into those kind of theories but still
>>>>>>>> missing in classical electromagnetism. Here is a video showing
>>>>>>>> levitating objects using sound waves in air: Present:
>>>>>>>> "Levitation in a Sound Standing Wave" (11 khz):
>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIi5tUupH9c  (3:35). Even
>>>>>>>> though the sound waves may be described by using field lines I
>>>>>>>> don't see this really describing air or sound as being made of
>>>>>>>> field lines. It's just a mathematical construct that can be
>>>>>>>> broken down to something even smaller. Field lines are very
>>>>>>>> useful in describing a field except when the field lines become
>>>>>>>> discontinuous at some intersections.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/30fari/what_is_a_magnetic_field_made_of/   
>>>>>>>> Interesting note here  "Take the magnetic field created by the
>>>>>>>> earth for example. This field is very big. If virtual photons
>>>>>>>> can travel all the way around the field in a time shorter than
>>>>>>>> planck time, aren't they moving faster than the speed of
>>>>>>>> light?"   Ah Ha!   Super Light, Super luminal velocities."
>>>>>>>> This may actually be the case. W.B. Smith couldn't measure any
>>>>>>>> delay in the propagation of his tensor beam. His theory tells
>>>>>>>> that it carries time along with its length and thus is at the
>>>>>>>> same time along its length. What is considered empty space by
>>>>>>>> most of science actually has the physical constants of
>>>>>>>> permittivity of vacuum and permeability of vacuum as if there
>>>>>>>> is still something physical there? The theories that take this
>>>>>>>> into account are probably more correct than the ones dismissing
>>>>>>>> such facts. According to the theory of Rhythmodynamics there
>>>>>>>> are different modes of wave propagation like longitudinal waves
>>>>>>>> behaving like transverse waves at some distance from the
>>>>>>>> emitters which could be why light and other electromagnetic
>>>>>>>> waves are seen as transverse electromagnetic waves.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We may be living in several different densities that propagates
>>>>>>>> signals at each their own speed. Glass water air and vacuum
>>>>>>>> have each their own density and speed of propagating
>>>>>>>> electromagnetic waves. Perhaps there are even less densities
>>>>>>>> than the ones we know. John W. Keely claimed that this is the case.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>> Ole
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ---In [email protected], <nwootan@...> wrote :
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4gCTmlm5RQ
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 1/10/2019 6:21 PM, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>>>>> <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     Lets look at the actual make up of the magnetic flux
>>>>>>>>>     lines.  https://van.physics.illinois.edu/qa/listing.php?id=414
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/30fari/what_is_a_magnetic_field_made_of/   
>>>>>>>>>     Interesting note here  "Take the magnetic field created by
>>>>>>>>>     the earth for example. This field is very big. If virtual
>>>>>>>>>     photons can travel all the way around the field in a time
>>>>>>>>>     shorter than planck time, aren't they moving faster than
>>>>>>>>>     the speed of light?"   Ah Ha!   Super Light, Super luminal
>>>>>>>>>     velocities.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYA0bntrjsk&feature=youtu.be
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3P-FGw5KUeo&feature=youtu.be
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crfY2vzVMbI&feature=youtu.be
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rst9EcF9ryk&feature=youtu.be
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hk1cOffTgdk&feature=youtu.be  
>>>>>>>>>     The Best!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     On 1/10/2019 4:55 PM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>     Thank You, Bert Pool for this new soc.  
>>>>>>>>>>     https://scienceblog.com/505176/scientists-inch-closer-to-fusion-energy-with-discovery-of-a-process-that-stabilizes-plasmas/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>     On 1/10/2019 7:58 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>>>>>>>     <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>       Alfvén wave
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>     An *Alfvén wave* is a wave that occurs in a plasma
>>>>>>>>>>>     <https://www.plasma-universe.com/Plasma> (or conducting
>>>>>>>>>>>     fluid), resulting from the interaction of the magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>     fields and electric currents
>>>>>>>>>>>     <https://www.plasma-universe.com/Electric_current>
>>>>>>>>>>>     within it, causing an oscillation of the ions. Alfvén
>>>>>>>>>>>     wrote in a letter to the journal /Nature/ in 1942:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         "If a conducting liquid is placed in a constant
>>>>>>>>>>>         magnetic field, every motion of the liquid gives
>>>>>>>>>>>         rise to an E.M.F. which produces electric currents.
>>>>>>>>>>>         Owing to the magnetic field, these currents give
>>>>>>>>>>>         mechanical forces which change the state of motion
>>>>>>>>>>>         of the liquid. Thus a kind of combined
>>>>>>>>>>>         electromagnetic-hydrodynamic wave is produced."^[1]
>>>>>>>>>>>         <https://www.plasma-universe.com/Alfv%C3%A9n_wave#cite_note-alfven1942-1>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>     Alfvén waves initiated the field of magnetohydrodynamics
>>>>>>>>>>>     <https://www.plasma-universe.com/Magnetohydrodynamics>
>>>>>>>>>>>     which subsequently earned Alfvén a Nobel Prize.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>     Put some thought behind this statement  "A conductive
>>>>>>>>>>>     liquid"!!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>     On 1/10/2019 7:41 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannes_Alfv%C3%A9n   
>>>>>>>>>>>>     Please read this mans research and see how he was often
>>>>>>>>>>>>     rejected by fellow physicists.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>     On 1/10/2019 7:31 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     http://aa.springer.de/papers/7324002/2300449.pdf  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Still researching the importance of the Alfven waves
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     in plasma.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     On 1/10/2019 6:51 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Moray, Jon Gentry and Warren asked pertinent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     questions regarding velocities, magnetic flux etc. in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     plasma events so I did a search as to whether Alfven
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     waves have a frequency.  This site pretty well
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     defines a lot of plasma info that we need.   See: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     https://www.britannica.com/science/plasma-state-of-matter#ref507092
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     On 1/10/2019 6:29 AM, Warren Keillor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     schoonersolsticemoon@...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     <mailto:schoonersolsticemoon@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Norman
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Hooper's work looks very compelling. At his time of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     experimentation, super conductors were not a reality
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     as they are now. The fact that a resistance free
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     conductor might accelerate  a potential's velocity,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     after going through a resistor, suggests an analogy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     to fluid dynamics, much like Bernuili's principle
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     application of a venturi to gases.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     The idea of dielectric conductors is a mind smasher,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     inverting our entire circuit thoughts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Generally, pretty radical concepts, in a zone to set
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     us up for quantum physics thinking. Whew!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Cheers Warren
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 3:17 PM, Norman Wootan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         nwootan@... <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Good question Warren!   Nobody really knows how
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         the potential and current manifest in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         conductor passing through a flux field. Your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         question is valid cause there very well may be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         some sort of reconnect occurring here. Theory
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         was, that the flux field was photon stream which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         enabled pairing to produce electrons and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         attending current.  There is still so much that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         we don't know but things are getting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         interesting.   Read that last doc that I posted
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         for it is very enlightening on this subject. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         See: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         http://www.tfcbooks.com/mall/more/temp/x565-hen.htm  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         This is one of Oles  favorites.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         On 1/9/2019 9:09 AM, Warren Keillor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         schoonersolsticemoon@...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:schoonersolsticemoon@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Norman
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         I wonder if, in a down to earth , practical
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         manner, the connect/re-connect plays a role in,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         for instance, the Kromery, where one slides the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         magnets at right angles to their locked
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         together state.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Initially, I need both hands to grasp the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         flywheel to turn my Kromery.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Once turning, one finger's friction on the rim,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         easily rotates the flywheel, regardless of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         load.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Too fast, then eddy currents start warming the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         magnetic coil cores.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Are we cutting those magnetic lines?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Cheers Warren
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 9:25 AM, Norman
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Wootan nwootan@... <mailto:nwootan@...>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             [EVGRAY]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             http://young.caltech.edu/Collisionless_Magnetic_Reconnection.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             On 1/9/2019 8:21 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             https://phys.org/news/2017-10-hidden-mechanics-magnetic-field-reconnection.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             On 1/9/2019 8:14 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             https://gss.pppl.gov/talks/reconnection%20lecture%201.pdf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             On 1/9/2019 8:09 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007%2F978-94-009-0545-0_14
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Recent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Developments
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Theory
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Reconnection
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Dieter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Biskamp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Max-Planck-Institut
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             fiir
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Plasmaphysik
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             8046
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Garching
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             bei
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Miinchen,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Federal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Republic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Germany
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Abstract
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             talk
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             briefly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             reviews
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             previous
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             stationary
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             models,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             mainly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             configurations
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Petschek
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermodynamic_temperature

https://arxiv.org/abs/cond-mat/0506196

Looking at it from the perspective of moving charge carriers 
(electrons), you are correct all the way down to the Absolute Zero but 
this is all Theoretical.

On 1/12/2019 8:13 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Hi Norman,
>
> Don't be too sure that there is such a thing as static electricity. It 
> may look static but the charges may actually be moving at signal speed 
> but opposing each other to look like a static field. Ivor Catt's 
> theory C tells that the charges always have to be on their move. 
> Wilbert B. Smith's theory tells that electrons and positrons cannot 
> exist without being on the move. An analogy can be made by using smoke 
> rings which have some of the same properties as electrons and 
> positrons. Try to stop a smoke ring and it just disintegrates.
>
> Citing Ivor Catt from here http://www.ivorcatt.co.uk/965.htm:
> "We are driving towards the principle that Energy (current) E x H 
> cannot stand still; it can only travel at the speed of light. Any 
> apparently steady field is a combination of two energy currents 
> travelling in opposite directions at the speed of light.
>
> Ivor Catt   6 May 2012"
>
> Article about the experiment done by Tony Wakefield that confirmed 
> Ivor Catt's theory C:
> http://www.ivorcatt.co.uk/x343.pdf
> And a succeeding experiment (Experiment to complement the Wakefield 
> Experiment. Suggested by 4
> students at Newcastle University UK.): 
> http://www.ivorcatt.co.uk/x3a922.pdf
>
> "The Wakefield Experiments Background and Motivation:" 
> http://www.naturalphilosophy.org/site/harryricker/2015/12/12/the-wakefield-experiments-background-and-motivation/
>
> The problem is if nature is right and the experiments show how nature 
> works or if theory is right and nature must follow theory even though 
> it doesn't always do so. But even us humans violate laws and perhaps 
> nature isn't different in that way or it is just ruled by its own laws.
>
> Regards
> Ole
>
> Strange. Show message history doesn't work so copy pasted some in:
>
>
> On 1/12/2019 7:28 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... <mailto:nwootan@...> 
> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
>> Glad you asked there Mick for almost all of us have our copies of 
>> Joseph Cater's Book, Awesome Life Force in which he uses the terms 
>> Hard Electrons vs Soft Electrons.  The Scientific Community take a 
>> dim view of publications such as this BUT teach, even at MIT that 
>> there are hard vs Soft electrons??
>>
>> See; 
>> https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/6twjgw/eli5_what_are_soft_and_hard_electrons/
>>
>> MIT lecture on Superposition: 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZ3bPUKo5zc&feature=youtu.be
>>
>> https://www.diffen.com/difference/Electric_Field_vs_Magnetic_Field
>>
>> To sum up this whole argument, this article says it best 
>> https://www.differencebetween.com/difference-between-static-and-vs-dynamic-electricity/ 
>> If it is moving (dynamic) they are hard electrons and carry a 
>> magnetic field and electric field.  If they are standing still, (no 
>> movement) they are  Soft Electrons.  Moving charges create fields.  
>> You can charge a large capacitor via an influence machine 
>> (electrostatic generator) and as long as the charge is at rest state, 
>> it is static electricity. When you discharge the capacitor, the 
>> resultant moving of charge (dynamic) creates the fields due to moving 
>> charge.  This is how I see it.
>>
>> https://www.plasma-universe.com/Plasma_classification_(types_of_plasma)
>>
>> I had a friend, Leonard Dorsett that lived at Grapevine, TX by the 
>> lake. In the evening, just at dusk, the metal roof of his house would 
>> glow due to a strange ionization soft plasma. We never figured out  
>> this phenomenon.
>>
>> On 1/11/2019 8:09 PM, Mick mkjekyll@... <mailto:mkjekyll@...>  wrote:
>> Hide message history
>>>
>>> Norm,
>>>
>>> Could you please distill the concept of soft particles? I read the 
>>> Cater book and for some reason have a disconnect concerning what 
>>> defines a soft or hard electron etc.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Mick
>>>
>

NormanBeing able to throttle a capacitor discharge without wasting the potential, as heat, seems to challenge me in practice.I would like to have a controlled flow like a battery, without the charging time. (Wouldn't we all)Cheers Warren

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  On Sat, 12 Jan 2019 at 7:29 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
 

Glad you asked there Mick for almost all of us have our copies of Joseph Cater's Book, Awesome Life Force in which he uses the terms Hard Electrons vs Soft Electrons.  The Scientific Community take a dim view of publications such as this BUT teach, even at MIT that there are hard vs Soft electrons??
 
See;https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/6twjgw/eli5_what_are_soft_and_hard_electrons/
 
MIT lecture on Superposition:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZ3bPUKo5zc&feature=youtu.be
 
https://www.diffen.com/difference/Electric_Field_vs_Magnetic_Field
 
To sum up this whole argument, this article says it best   https://www.differencebetween.com/difference-between-static-and-vs-dynamic-electricity/         If it is moving (dynamic) they are hard electrons and carry a magnetic field and electric field.  If they are standing still,  (no movement) they are  Soft Electrons.  Moving charges create fields.  You can charge a large capacitor via an influence machine (electrostatic generator) and as long as the charge is at rest state, it is static electricity. When you discharge the capacitor, the resultant moving of charge (dynamic) creates the fields due to moving charge.  This is how I see it.
 
https://www.plasma-universe.com/Plasma_classification_(types_of_plasma) 
 
 
 I had a friend, Leonard Dorsett that lived at Grapevine, TX by the lake. In the evening, just at dusk, the metal roof of his house would glow due to a strange ionization soft plasma. We never figured out  this phenomenon.
 
 On 1/11/2019 8:09 PM, Mick [email protected]  wrote:
  
    
 
 
Norm,
 
Could you please distill the concept of soft particles?  I read the Cater book and for some reason have a disconnect concerning what defines a soft or hard electron etc.
 
Thanks,
 
Mick
 

 
 

 
 On 1/11/2019 9:28 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
 
 
http://physics.tutorcircle.com/modern-physics/pair-production.html     
 
 
 On 1/11/2019 7:15 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
 
 

 
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/225697264_A_standing_wave_acoustic_levitation_system_for_large_planar_objects
 

 
 
Ja Brink & John ,"Thanks for your comments"!  Since I went to Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University and am a dual rated aviator (rotary wing), I concur with your observation regarding the lift multiplication with multiple "counter rotating" rotors for this is where the "pair production" of vortices happens which gives an order of magnitude gross lift.
 
Having studied the large beetles (Rhinobeetle) it is interesting to watch in slow motion video, them first cam forward and outward and lock their Elytra (Wing cover shell)  "no lift yet", then start rotary wing motion which activates the micro cavity structure (under side of Elyton) then take off with surprising ease!  The anomalous lift is induced by the wing motion air currents under the shells.  "Pure and simple"!  Look at the video and please note several Elyton (shells) laying on table "cup side down" and are not "hovering".  They are not "glued down to table top" so if the "static" lift theory were valid they could not simply lie there motionless!  It takes the vortex air  movement to create the eddy flow which in-turn activates the AG effects the same as seen in close proximity tornado vortex eddy air flows.  Please see shells laying cup side down here:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HW6uOW4aoJQ
 
Dallas tornado 2005, semi trailers suspended in mid air!  (outside of tornado vortex).  53 ft. trailer weighing 12,000 #s
 
 

 
 On 4/3/2017 9:52 PM, jabrinka [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    In the study of flight when using models to determine flight characteristics the models are typically smaller than the aircraft design being studied however the components that make up air remain the same size so... a smaller version will be operating in relatively more dense compressible fluid. This is known as scale effect. When a fish swings its tail to one side a vortex is created as a result. On the return swing the tail has the additional rotary motion (angular momentum) to push  against as opposed to a stationary volume of fluid resulting in extra thrust. This explains the increased efficiency of multiple rotors on an aircraft drone or otherwise.
 On the lungan mousetrap buzzer thread, sometime ago 2007ish on this forum a member Gary (the Skipper ) had a design for a long coil with em/back emf collecting coils along its length. I had almost finished my reproduction when the latest spook showed up with several wild geese for me to chase. Lost my house and havent made another coil yet. The buzzer kickback Norm mentioned spelled out for me how Ron Cole's electric car with all the clicking relays must have worked (before he was disappeared). Evidently grounding to the car frame was enough to make a neutral spike of sorts.. heh....heh. Best to all Ja Brink
 
   
 
 
John!  Watch this video and pay close attention to the "Bird in flight part"!    See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcNGwmV1Yio   "Vortex pair generation via leading edge feathers"  allows bird to land "vertically"!
 
 
 On 4/3/2017 8:45 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
  
 John: Sorry! I did not see any evidence of "lift" or anti-gravity with "dead bug" parts!  What are you referring to with the window blind & glue??? I did not see this evidence??  My "pair production of counter rotating vortices" is a "dynamic flow" situation and contend that you do not have evidence of a "static" no air flow lift situation!  Please show me some evidence of a totally "static lift".  Sure! the movement of "Elytra" on a table top was shown as false due to "electrostatic effects".  I can walk across a polyester carpet and pick up a pair of steel tweasers and make the Elyton move about via electrostatic charge!  Nothing conclusive here!  Show me a Elyton hovering in air "static, no air flow" over the table, them I will be convinced!  Sure there is the "AG" effect when the wings of the bug provide the necessary circulating vortex air flow within the micro cavities under the Elytra thus giving the anomalous lift we all see as evidence that very large bugs, rhinobeatles and bumblebees can achieve what the text books prove cannot be done. "Fly"!   
 
 
Sometimes it is great to be able to go back and retreive messages that are applicable to today's topics.
 
 On 1/11/2019 6:30 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
 
 
 
 
Ok!   folks, Ole has brought up a very interesting point when comparing the air mass, weather and the phenomenon of levitation, anti-gravity etc. Something that I have been wanting to bring up but the subject is a little far out of  the mainstream thinking.  Lets look at a profound statement here: 
 
 

 
 
 Alfven quote:"If a conducting liquid is placed in a constant magnetic field, every motion of the liquid gives rise to an E.M.F. which produces electric currents. Owing to the magnetic field, these currents give mechanical forces  which change the state of motion of the liquid. Thus a kind of combined electromagnetic-hydrodynamic wave is produced."
 

 
 

 
 
Back when I posted the articles on electrostatic generators, I had stated that the 9th grade Science Class explanation for the source of the electrons was believed to be a shearing from the air as the device rotated,  example Wimshurst Machine.  WRONG.  I gave you the example of the Felici Electrostatic Generator   http://u2.lege.net/newebmasters.com__freeenergy/external_links_from_theverylastpageoftheinternet.com/highvoltage/HVgenerator/HVgenerator.htm   Here we have a device that uses pure hydrogen gas at 30 bar pressure as the operating media and produces 2.5 KW at 300KV.   CERN is operating an electrostatic generator that has a deep vacuum as the operating media. ??   Ole's example of air is interesting for we have discussed tornadoes and how we observe Anti-gravitic phenomenon at the vortex base due to the  counter  rotating, vortex-anti vortex eddy currents in which we get the Alfven example of Electromagnetic-hydrodynamics.  We see this same example in the Sonodiffuser with the production of the micro cavitation production of vortex-counter vortex producing the photon burst.     Air when ionized is a highly conductive fluid as is water.
 

 
 
With a background education in Aerodynamics, I studied the subject as thoroughly as possible an came away with a different Theory.  See: https://www.mpoweruk.com/flight_theory.htm.    Bernoulli's Principle and Newton's Law of motion do not complete the puzzle.  In wind tunnel testing of airfoils, little turfs of string are attached at thousands of points on the upper, lift producing areas of the wing.  There is clear evidence that micro vertices are produced along with the counter vertices and we get a gross production of the anti-gravitic effects as we see in the tornado example.  See, I told you that this fly's way outside of mainstream thinking.   The more we examine the evidence, new conclusions spring forth.   Thank You Ole for your question opens a whole new approach into all thing that perturb the Aether.
 
 
 On 1/10/2019 8:40 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
Hi Norman,
 
 When looking at a weather map showing the air pressure wind speed or temperature as field lines does that really mean that air is made up of field lines or just being some mathematical construct? What if the  air is made up of small particles only connected when bouncing into each other. The particles then could transfer forces just like electric and magnetic fields or gravitational fields. T.J.J. See (https://wiki2.org/en/Thomas_Jefferson_Jackson_See) and C.A. Bjérknes (https://wiki2.org/en/Carl_Anton_Bjerknes) demonstrated that the same laws applied no matter what medium was used and thus concluded that there must be some aether behaving like gases or liquids. The same conclusion is made by the Rhythmodynamics  theory: http://mirit.ru/rd_2007en.htm.
 
 Even gravity is united into those kind of theories but still missing in classical electromagnetism. Here is a video showing levitating objects using sound waves in air: Present: "Levitation in a Sound  Standing Wave" (11 khz): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIi5tUupH9c  (3:35). Even though the sound waves may be described by using field lines I don't see this really describing air or sound as being made of field lines. It's just a mathematical construct that can be broken  down to something even smaller. Field lines are very useful in describing a field except when the field lines become discontinuous at some intersections.
 
 "https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/30fari/what_is_a_magnetic_field_made_of/    Interesting note here  "Take the magnetic field created by the earth for example. This field is very big. If virtual photons can travel all the way around the field in a time shorter than planck time, aren't they moving  faster than the speed of light?"   Ah Ha!   Super Light, Super luminal velocities."
 This may actually be the case. W.B. Smith couldn't measure any delay in the propagation of his tensor beam. His theory tells that it carries time along with its length and thus is at the same time along  its length. What is considered empty space by most of science actually has the physical constants of permittivity of vacuum and permeability of vacuum as if there is still something physical there? The theories that take this into account are probably more correct than the ones dismissing such facts. According to the theory of Rhythmodynamics there are different modes of wave propagation like longitudinal waves behaving like  transverse waves at some distance from the emitters which could be why light and other electromagnetic waves are seen as transverse electromagnetic waves.
 
 We may be living in several different densities that propagates signals at each their own speed. Glass water air and vacuum have each their own density and speed of propagating electromagnetic waves. Perhaps there are even less densities than the ones we know. John W. Keely claimed that this is the case.
 
 Regards
 Ole
 
 
 
 
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4gCTmlm5RQ
 
 On 1/10/2019 6:21 PM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
 
    
Lets look at the actual make up of the magnetic flux lines.  https://van.physics.illinois.edu/qa/listing.php?id=414
 
https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/30fari/what_is_a_magnetic_field_made_of/    Interesting note here  "Take the magnetic field created by the earth for example. This field is very big. If virtual photons can travel all the way around the field in a time  shorter than planck time, aren't they moving faster than the speed of light?"   Ah Ha!   Super Light, Super luminal velocities.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYA0bntrjsk&feature=youtu.be
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3P-FGw5KUeo&feature=youtu.be
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crfY2vzVMbI&feature=youtu.be
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rst9EcF9ryk&feature=youtu.be
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hk1cOffTgdk&feature=youtu.be   The Best!
 
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Thank You, Bert Pool for this new soc.   https://scienceblog.com/505176/scientists-inch-closer-to-fusion-energy-with-discovery-of-a-process-that-stabilizes-plasmas/
 
 On 1/10/2019 7:58 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
Alfvén wave
 
An Alfvén wave is a wave that occurs in a plasma (or conducting fluid), resulting from the interaction of the magnetic fields and electric currents within it, causing an oscillation of the ions. Alfvén wrote in a letter to the journal Nature in 1942:
    
      - "If a conducting liquid is placed in a constant magnetic field, every motion of the liquid gives rise to an E.M.F. which  produces electric currents. Owing to the magnetic field, these currents give mechanical forces  which change the state of motion of the liquid. Thus a kind of combined electromagnetic-hydrodynamic wave is produced."   [1]
 
Alfvén waves initiated the field of magnetohydrodynamics which subsequently earned Alfvén a Nobel Prize. 
 
 
Put some thought behind this statement  "A conductive liquid"!!
 
 On 1/10/2019 7:41 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
  
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannes_Alfv%C3%A9n    Please read this mans research and see how he was often rejected by fellow physicists.
 
 On 1/10/2019 7:31 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
  
 
http://aa.springer.de/papers/7324002/2300449.pdf   Still researching the importance of the Alfven waves in plasma.
 
 On 1/10/2019 6:51 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
  
 
Moray, Jon Gentry and Warren asked pertinent questions regarding velocities,  magnetic flux etc. in plasma events so I did a search as to whether Alfven waves have a frequency.  This site pretty well defines a lot of plasma info that we need.   See:  https://www.britannica.com/science/plasma-state-of-matter#ref507092
 
 On 1/10/2019 6:29 AM, Warren Keillor schoonersolsticemoon@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
     Norman Hooper's work looks very compelling. At his time of experimentation,  super conductors were not a reality as they are now. The fact that a resistance free conductor might accelerate  a potential's velocity, after going through a resistor,  suggests an analogy to fluid dynamics, much like Bernuili's  principle application of a venturi to gases. The idea of dielectric conductors is a mind smasher,  inverting our entire circuit thoughts. Generally, pretty radical concepts, in a zone to set us up for quantum physics  thinking. Whew! Cheers Warren
 
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   On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 3:17 PM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:          
Good question Warren!   Nobody really knows how the potential and current manifest in  the conductor passing through a flux field. Your question is  valid cause there very well may be some sort of reconnect occurring  here. Theory was, that the flux field was photon stream which enabled  pairing to produce electrons and attending current.  There is still so much that we don't know but things are getting  interesting.   Read that last doc that I posted for it is very enlightening  on this subject.  See:  http://www.tfcbooks.com/mall/more/temp/x565-hen.htm   This is one of Oles  favorites.
 
  On 1/9/2019 9:09 AM, Warren Keillor schoonersolsticemoon@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
Norman
 I wonder if, in a down to earth , practical manner, theconnect/re-connect plays a role in, for instance, the Kromery, where one slides the magnets at right angles to their locked together state. Initially, I need both hands to grasp the flywheel to turn my Kromery. Once turning, one finger's friction on the rim, easily rotates  the flywheel, regardless of the load.
 Too fast, then eddy currents start warming the magnetic coil cores. Are we cutting those magnetic lines? Cheers Warren
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  On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 9:25 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:          
http://young.caltech.edu/Collisionless_Magnetic_Reconnection.html
 
  On 1/9/2019 8:21 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
  
 
https://phys.org/news/2017-10-hidden-mechanics-magnetic-field-reconnection.html
 
 On 1/9/2019 8:14 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
  
 
https://gss.pppl.gov/talks/reconnection%20lecture%201.pdf
 
 On 1/9/2019 8:09 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
  
 
 https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007%2F978-94-009-0545-0_14
 

 
 

 

 
 

 
 Recent Developments in the Theory of Magnetic Reconnection Dieter Biskamp Max-Planck-Institut fiir Plasmaphysik 8046 Garching bei Miinchen, Federal Republic of Germany Abstract The talk briefly reviews previous stationary models, mainly configurations of the Petschek type, pointing out their shortcomings and basic failure in accounting for fast magnetic reconnection in the limit of large magnetic Reynolds number. It is shown that in this limit no relevant stationary states exist. Instead strong small-scale MHD turbulence develops even in 2D geometry, giving rise to energy dissipation and reconnection rates independent of the value of the collisional re- sistivity. I Introduction In the last decade it has been realized that the presence of magnetic fields is a ubiquitous phenomenon in cosmic 
 
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Hi Norman,

Don't be too sure that there is such a thing as static electricity. It may look static but the charges may actually be moving at signal speed but opposing each other to look like a static field. Ivor Catt's theory C tells that the charges always have to be on their move. Wilbert B. Smith's theory tells that electrons and positrons cannot exist without being on the move. An analogy can be made by using smoke rings which have some of the same properties as electrons and positrons. Try to stop a smoke ring and it just disintegrates.

Citing Ivor Catt from here http://www.ivorcatt.co.uk/965.htm http://www.ivorcatt.co.uk/965.htm:
"We are driving towards the principle that Energy (current) E x H cannot stand still; it can only travel at the speed of light. Any apparently steady field is a combination of two energy currents travelling in opposite directions at the speed of light.
 
 Ivor Catt   6 May 2012"

Article about the experiment done by Tony Wakefield that confirmed Ivor Catt's theory C:
http://www.ivorcatt.co.uk/x343.pdf http://www.ivorcatt.co.uk/x343.pdf
And a succeeding experiment (Experiment to complement the Wakefield Experiment. Suggested by 4
 students at Newcastle University UK.): http://www.ivorcatt.co.uk/x3a922.pdf http://www.ivorcatt.co.uk/x3a922.pdf

"The Wakefield Experiments Background and Motivation:" http://www.naturalphilosophy.org/site/harryricker/2015/12/12/the-wakefield-experiments-background-and-motivation/ http://www.naturalphilosophy.org/site/harryricker/2015/12/12/the-wakefield-experiments-background-and-motivation/

The problem is if nature is right and the experiments show how nature works or if theory is right and nature must follow theory even though it doesn't always do so. But even us humans violate laws and perhaps nature isn't different in that way or it is just ruled by its own laws.

Regards
Ole

Strange. Show message history doesn't work so copy pasted some in:
 

 On 1/12/2019 7:28 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... mailto:nwootan@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
 
 Glad you asked there Mick for almost all of us have our copies of Joseph Cater's Book, Awesome Life Force in which he uses the terms Hard Electrons vs Soft Electrons.  The Scientific Community take a dim view of publications such as this BUT teach, even at MIT that there are hard vs Soft electrons??
 See; https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/6twjgw/eli5_what_are_soft_and_hard_electrons/ https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/6twjgw/eli5_what_are_soft_and_hard_electrons/
 MIT lecture on Superposition:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZ3bPUKo5zc&feature=youtu.be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZ3bPUKo5zc&feature=youtu.be
 https://www.diffen.com/difference/Electric_Field_vs_Magnetic_Field https://www.diffen.com/difference/Electric_Field_vs_Magnetic_Field
 To sum up this whole argument, this article says it best    https://www.differencebetween.com/difference-between-static-and-vs-dynamic-electricity/ https://www.differencebetween.com/difference-between-static-and-vs-dynamic-electricity/         If it is moving (dynamic) they are hard electrons and carry a magnetic field and electric field.  If they are standing still,  (no movement) they are  Soft Electrons.  Moving charges create fields.  You can charge a large capacitor via an influence machine (electrostatic generator) and as long as the charge is at rest state, it is static electricity. When you discharge the capacitor, the resultant moving of charge (dynamic) creates the fields due to moving charge.  This is how I see it.
 https://www.plasma-universe.com/Plasma_classification_(types_of_plasma) https://www.plasma-universe.com/Plasma_classification_(types_of_plasma) 

 I had a friend, Leonard Dorsett that lived at Grapevine, TX by the lake. In the evening, just at dusk, the metal roof of his house would glow due to a strange ionization soft plasma. We never figured out  this phenomenon.

 On 1/11/2019 8:09 PM, Mick mkjekyll@... mailto:mkjekyll@...  wrote:

 Hide message history
 Norm,
 Could you please distill the concept of soft particles?  I read the Cater book and for some reason have a disconnect concerning what defines a soft or hard electron etc.
 Thanks,
 Mick

Jon Gentry sent me this interesting book preview!  Take a look: 
https://books.google.com/books?id=Ec6MP26x6J8C&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false

On 1/12/2019 7:19 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>
> Bert Pool and Phil will appreciate this little piece of history of my 
> research into Tesla back in the 70s.  Before I met the boys of Ft. 
> Worth Tesla Coil Builders, I called D C Cox and ordered a plan set for 
> my first Tesla Coil. At the time I also asked for plans for a large 
> Van de Graff Generator and got a resounding NO!  Cox explained the 
> huge difference between the two systems. In the Van de Graff you are 
> accumulating charge (electrostatic) that when discharged is a 
> multi-million volt discharge (DC) that, if you are grounded, flows 
> through the body and will kill you deader that hell. The Tesla Coil on 
> the other hand is HVAC at high frequency therefore travels over your 
> body (skin effect) and will do no harm since the discharge never 
> penetrates the body.  Oh!  Take off any metals from your body such as 
> bracelets, rings etc. cause the high freq will cause heating and will 
> burn you.  I remember my first visit with Bert and Leslie at his 
> Teslathon at Irving Texas back in the 80s.
>
> https://vimeo.com/channels/resonanceresearch
>
> https://library.e.abb.com/public/6d17725e73e547d6922c408557562ec4/DC_Resonance%20Analysis%20of%20a%20Hybrid%20HVDC%20System.pdf
>
> A note here that is of interest to Angel and Fredric since they are 
> very active in the transmission of HVDC at  megawatt levels. Any 
> system that has the basic components of an LC circuit is subject to a 
> resonance effect. So do not say "What, Resonance in a DC 
> circuit"???    The switching will get you every time. Lol    Norm
>
> On 1/12/2019 6:42 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>
>> Since it was mentioned in the reddit article: 
>> https://books.google.com/books/about/The_Ultimate_Reality.html?id=ySsNiCPUPecC
>>
>> On 1/12/2019 6:28 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>> Glad you asked there Mick for almost all of us have our copies of 
>>> Joseph Cater's Book, Awesome Life Force in which he uses the terms 
>>> Hard Electrons vs Soft Electrons.  The Scientific Community take a 
>>> dim view of publications such as this BUT teach, even at MIT that 
>>> there are hard vs Soft electrons??
>>>
>>> See; 
>>> https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/6twjgw/eli5_what_are_soft_and_hard_electrons/
>>>
>>> MIT lecture on Superposition: 
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZ3bPUKo5zc&feature=youtu.be
>>>
>>> https://www.diffen.com/difference/Electric_Field_vs_Magnetic_Field
>>>
>>> To sum up this whole argument, this article says it best 
>>> https://www.differencebetween.com/difference-between-static-and-vs-dynamic-electricity/ 
>>> If it is moving (dynamic) they are hard electrons and carry a 
>>> magnetic field and electric field.  If they are standing still,  (no 
>>> movement) they are  Soft Electrons.  Moving charges create fields.  
>>> You can charge a large capacitor via an influence machine 
>>> (electrostatic generator) and as long as the charge is at rest 
>>> state, it is static electricity. When you discharge the capacitor, 
>>> the resultant moving of charge (dynamic) creates the fields due to 
>>> moving charge.  This is how I see it.
>>>
>>> https://www.plasma-universe.com/Plasma_classification_(types_of_plasma)
>>>
>>> I had a friend, Leonard Dorsett that lived at Grapevine, TX by the 
>>> lake. In the evening, just at dusk, the metal roof of his house 
>>> would glow due to a strange ionization soft plasma. We never figured 
>>> out this phenomenon.
>>>
>>> On 1/11/2019 8:09 PM, Mick [email protected] wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Norm,
>>>>
>>>> Could you please distill the concept of soft particles?  I read the 
>>>> Cater book and for some reason have a disconnect concerning what 
>>>> defines a soft or hard electron etc.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Mick
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 1/11/2019 9:28 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://physics.tutorcircle.com/modern-physics/pair-production.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 1/11/2019 7:15 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/225697264_A_standing_wave_acoustic_levitation_system_for_large_planar_objects
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ja Brink & John ,"Thanks for your comments"!  Since I went to 
>>>>>> Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University and am a dual rated aviator 
>>>>>> (rotary wing), I concur with your observation regarding the lift 
>>>>>> multiplication with multiple "counter rotating" rotors for this 
>>>>>> is where the "pair production" of vortices happens which gives an 
>>>>>> order of magnitude gross lift.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Having studied the large beetles (Rhinobeetle) it is interesting 
>>>>>> to watch in slow motion video, them first cam forward and outward 
>>>>>> and lock their Elytra (Wing cover shell)  "no lift yet", then 
>>>>>> start rotary wing motion which activates the micro cavity 
>>>>>> structure (under side of Elyton) then take off with surprising 
>>>>>> ease!  The anomalous lift is induced by the wing motion air 
>>>>>> currents under the shells.  "Pure and simple"!  Look at the video 
>>>>>> and please note several Elyton (shells) laying on table "cup side 
>>>>>> down" and are not "hovering".  They are not "glued down to table 
>>>>>> top" so if the "static" lift theory were valid they could not 
>>>>>> simply lie there motionless!  It takes the vortex air  movement 
>>>>>> to create the eddy flow which in-turn activates the AG effects 
>>>>>> the same as seen in close proximity tornado vortex eddy air 
>>>>>> flows. Please see shells laying cup side down here: 
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HW6uOW4aoJQ
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dallas tornado 2005, semi trailers suspended in mid air!  
>>>>>> (outside of tornado vortex).  53 ft. trailer weighing 12,000 #s
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/3/2017 9:52 PM, jabrinka [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>> In the study of flight when using models to determine flight 
>>>>>>> characteristics the models are typically smaller than the 
>>>>>>> aircraft design being studied however the components that make 
>>>>>>> up air remain the same size so... a smaller version will be 
>>>>>>> operating in relatively more dense compressible fluid. This is 
>>>>>>> known as scale effect. When a fish swings its tail to one side a 
>>>>>>> vortex is created as a result. On the return swing the tail has 
>>>>>>> the additional rotary motion (angular momentum) to push against 
>>>>>>> as opposed to a stationary volume of fluid resulting in extra 
>>>>>>> thrust. This explains the increased efficiency of multiple 
>>>>>>> rotors on an aircraft drone or otherwise.
>>>>>>> On the lungan mousetrap buzzer thread, sometime ago 2007ish on 
>>>>>>> this forum a member Gary (the Skipper ) had a design for a long 
>>>>>>> coil with em/back emf collecting coils along its length. I had 
>>>>>>> almost finished my reproduction when the latest spook showed up 
>>>>>>> with several wild geese for me to chase. Lost my house and 
>>>>>>> havent made another coil yet. The buzzer kickback Norm mentioned 
>>>>>>> spelled out for me how Ron Cole's electric car with all the 
>>>>>>> clicking relays must have worked (before he was disappeared). 
>>>>>>> Evidently grounding to the car frame was enough to make a 
>>>>>>> neutral spike of sorts.. heh....heh. Best to all Ja Brink
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John!  Watch this video and pay close attention to the "Bird in 
>>>>>> flight part"! See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcNGwmV1Yio 
>>>>>> "Vortex pair generation via leading edge feathers"  allows bird 
>>>>>> to land "vertically"!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/3/2017 8:45 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John: Sorry! I did not see any evidence of "lift" or anti-gravity 
>>>>>> with "dead bug" parts!  What are you referring to with the window 
>>>>>> blind & glue??? I did not see this evidence??  My "pair 
>>>>>> production of counter rotating vortices" is a "dynamic flow" 
>>>>>> situation and contend that you do not have evidence of a "static" 
>>>>>> no air flow lift situation!  Please show me some evidence of a 
>>>>>> totally "static lift". Sure! the movement of "Elytra" on a table 
>>>>>> top was shown as false due to "electrostatic effects".  I can 
>>>>>> walk across a polyester carpet and pick up a pair of steel 
>>>>>> tweasers and make the Elyton move about via electrostatic charge! 
>>>>>> Nothing conclusive here!  Show me a Elyton hovering in air 
>>>>>> "static, no air flow" over the table, them I will be convinced!  
>>>>>> Sure there is the "AG" effect when the wings of the bug provide 
>>>>>> the necessary circulating vortex air flow within the micro 
>>>>>> cavities under the Elytra thus giving the anomalous lift we all 
>>>>>> see as evidence that very large bugs, rhinobeatles and bumblebees 
>>>>>> can achieve what the text books prove cannot be done. "Fly"!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sometimes it is great to be able to go back and retreive messages 
>>>>>> that are applicable to today's topics.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/11/2019 6:30 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ok!   folks, Ole has brought up a very interesting point when 
>>>>>>> comparing the air mass, weather and the phenomenon of 
>>>>>>> levitation, anti-gravity etc. Something that I have been wanting 
>>>>>>> to bring up but the subject is a little far out of the 
>>>>>>> mainstream thinking.  Lets look at a profound statement here:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alfven quote:"If a conducting liquid is placed in a constant 
>>>>>>> magnetic field, every motion of the liquid gives rise to an 
>>>>>>> E.M.F. which produces electric currents. Owing to the magnetic 
>>>>>>> field, these currents give mechanical forces which change the 
>>>>>>> state of motion of the liquid. Thus a kind of combined 
>>>>>>> electromagnetic-hydrodynamic wave is produced.^"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ^
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ^
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ^Back when I posted the articles on electrostatic generators, I 
>>>>>>> had stated that the 9th grade Science Class explanation for the 
>>>>>>> source of the electrons was believed to be a shearing from the 
>>>>>>> air as the device rotated, example Wimshurst Machine.  WRONG.  I 
>>>>>>> gave you the example of the Felici Electrostatic Generator 
>>>>>>> http://u2.lege.net/newebmasters.com__freeenergy/external_links_from_theverylastpageoftheinternet.com/highvoltage/HVgenerator/HVgenerator.htm 
>>>>>>> Here we have a device that uses pure hydrogen gas at 30 bar 
>>>>>>> pressure as the operating media and produces 2.5 KW at 300KV. 
>>>>>>> CERN is operating an electrostatic generator that has a deep 
>>>>>>> vacuum as the operating media. ??   Ole's example of air is 
>>>>>>> interesting for we have discussed tornadoes and how we observe 
>>>>>>> Anti-gravitic phenomenon at the vortex base due to the  counter  
>>>>>>> rotating, vortex-anti vortex eddy currents in which we get the 
>>>>>>> Alfven example of Electromagnetic-hydrodynamics. We see this 
>>>>>>> same example in the Sonodiffuser with the production of the 
>>>>>>> micro cavitation production of vortex-counter vortex producing 
>>>>>>> the photon burst.     Air when ionized is a highly conductive 
>>>>>>> fluid as is water.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ^
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ^With a background education in Aerodynamics, I studied the 
>>>>>>> subject as thoroughly as possible an came away with a different 
>>>>>>> Theory.  See: https://www.mpoweruk.com/flight_theory.htm. 
>>>>>>> Bernoulli's Principle and Newton's Law of motion do not complete 
>>>>>>> the puzzle.  In wind tunnel testing of airfoils, little turfs of 
>>>>>>> string are attached at thousands of points on the upper, lift 
>>>>>>> producing areas of the wing. There is clear evidence that micro 
>>>>>>> vertices are produced along with the counter vertices and we get 
>>>>>>> a gross production of the anti-gravitic effects as we see in the 
>>>>>>> tornado example.  See, I told you that this fly's way outside of 
>>>>>>> mainstream thinking.   The more we examine the evidence, new 
>>>>>>> conclusions spring forth.   Thank You Ole for your question 
>>>>>>> opens a whole new approach into all thing that perturb the Aether.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 1/10/2019 8:40 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Norman,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When looking at a weather map showing the air pressure wind 
>>>>>>>> speed or temperature as field lines does that really mean that 
>>>>>>>> air is made up of field lines or just being some mathematical 
>>>>>>>> construct? What if the air is made up of small particles only 
>>>>>>>> connected when bouncing into each other. The particles then 
>>>>>>>> could transfer forces just like electric and magnetic fields or 
>>>>>>>> gravitational fields. T.J.J. See 
>>>>>>>> (https://wiki2.org/en/Thomas_Jefferson_Jackson_See) and C.A. 
>>>>>>>> Bjérknes (https://wiki2.org/en/Carl_Anton_Bjerknes) 
>>>>>>>> demonstrated that the same laws applied no matter what medium 
>>>>>>>> was used and thus concluded that there must be some aether 
>>>>>>>> behaving like gases or liquids. The same conclusion is made by 
>>>>>>>> the Rhythmodynamics theory: http://mirit.ru/rd_2007en.htm.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Even gravity is united into those kind of theories but still 
>>>>>>>> missing in classical electromagnetism. Here is a video showing 
>>>>>>>> levitating objects using sound waves in air: Present: 
>>>>>>>> "Levitation in a Sound Standing Wave" (11 khz): 
>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIi5tUupH9c (3:35). Even though 
>>>>>>>> the sound waves may be described by using field lines I don't 
>>>>>>>> see this really describing air or sound as being made of field 
>>>>>>>> lines. It's just a mathematical construct that can be broken 
>>>>>>>> down to something even smaller. Field lines are very useful in 
>>>>>>>> describing a field except when the field lines become 
>>>>>>>> discontinuous at some intersections.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/30fari/what_is_a_magnetic_field_made_of/ 
>>>>>>>> Interesting note here  "Take the magnetic field created by the 
>>>>>>>> earth for example. This field is very big. If virtual photons 
>>>>>>>> can travel all the way around the field in a time shorter than 
>>>>>>>> planck time, aren't they moving faster than the speed of 
>>>>>>>> light?"   Ah Ha!   Super Light, Super luminal velocities."
>>>>>>>> This may actually be the case. W.B. Smith couldn't measure any 
>>>>>>>> delay in the propagation of his tensor beam. His theory tells 
>>>>>>>> that it carries time along with its length and thus is at the 
>>>>>>>> same time along its length. What is considered empty space by 
>>>>>>>> most of science actually has the physical constants of 
>>>>>>>> permittivity of vacuum and permeability of vacuum as if there 
>>>>>>>> is still something physical there? The theories that take this 
>>>>>>>> into account are probably more correct than the ones dismissing 
>>>>>>>> such facts. According to the theory of Rhythmodynamics there 
>>>>>>>> are different modes of wave propagation like longitudinal waves 
>>>>>>>> behaving like transverse waves at some distance from the 
>>>>>>>> emitters which could be why light and other electromagnetic 
>>>>>>>> waves are seen as transverse electromagnetic waves.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We may be living in several different densities that propagates 
>>>>>>>> signals at each their own speed. Glass water air and vacuum 
>>>>>>>> have each their own density and speed of propagating 
>>>>>>>> electromagnetic waves. Perhaps there are even less densities 
>>>>>>>> than the ones we know. John W. Keely claimed that this is the case.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>> Ole
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ---In [email protected], <nwootan@...> wrote :
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4gCTmlm5RQ
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 1/10/2019 6:21 PM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... 
>>>>>>>> <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     Lets look at the actual make up of the magnetic flux
>>>>>>>>>     lines. https://van.physics.illinois.edu/qa/listing.php?id=414
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/30fari/what_is_a_magnetic_field_made_of/
>>>>>>>>>     Interesting note here "Take the magnetic field created by
>>>>>>>>>     the earth for example. This field is very big. If virtual
>>>>>>>>>     photons can travel all the way around the field in a time
>>>>>>>>>     shorter than planck time, aren't they moving faster than
>>>>>>>>>     the speed of light?"   Ah Ha!   Super Light, Super luminal
>>>>>>>>>     velocities.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYA0bntrjsk&feature=youtu.be
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3P-FGw5KUeo&feature=youtu.be
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crfY2vzVMbI&feature=youtu.be
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rst9EcF9ryk&feature=youtu.be
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hk1cOffTgdk&feature=youtu.be
>>>>>>>>>     The Best!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     On 1/10/2019 4:55 PM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>     Thank You, Bert Pool for this new soc.
>>>>>>>>>>     https://scienceblog.com/505176/scientists-inch-closer-to-fusion-energy-with-discovery-of-a-process-that-stabilizes-plasmas/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>     On 1/10/2019 7:58 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>>>>>>>     <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>       Alfvén wave
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>     An *Alfvén wave* is a wave that occurs in a plasma
>>>>>>>>>>>     <https://www.plasma-universe.com/Plasma> (or conducting
>>>>>>>>>>>     fluid), resulting from the interaction of the magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>     fields and electric currents
>>>>>>>>>>>     <https://www.plasma-universe.com/Electric_current>
>>>>>>>>>>>     within it, causing an oscillation of the ions. Alfvén
>>>>>>>>>>>     wrote in a letter to the journal /Nature/ in 1942:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         "If a conducting liquid is placed in a constant
>>>>>>>>>>>         magnetic field, every motion of the liquid gives
>>>>>>>>>>>         rise to an E.M.F. which produces electric currents.
>>>>>>>>>>>         Owing to the magnetic field, these currents give
>>>>>>>>>>>         mechanical forces which change the state of motion
>>>>>>>>>>>         of the liquid. Thus a kind of combined
>>>>>>>>>>>         electromagnetic-hydrodynamic wave is produced."^[1]
>>>>>>>>>>>         <https://www.plasma-universe.com/Alfv%C3%A9n_wave#cite_note-alfven1942-1>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>     Alfvén waves initiated the field of magnetohydrodynamics
>>>>>>>>>>>     <https://www.plasma-universe.com/Magnetohydrodynamics>
>>>>>>>>>>>     which subsequently earned Alfvén a Nobel Prize.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>     Put some thought behind this statement "A conductive
>>>>>>>>>>>     liquid"!!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>     On 1/10/2019 7:41 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannes_Alfv%C3%A9n Please
>>>>>>>>>>>>     read this mans research and see how he was often
>>>>>>>>>>>>     rejected by fellow physicists.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>     On 1/10/2019 7:31 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     http://aa.springer.de/papers/7324002/2300449.pdf Still
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     researching the importance of the Alfven waves in plasma.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     On 1/10/2019 6:51 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Moray, Jon Gentry and Warren asked pertinent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     questions regarding velocities, magnetic flux etc. in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     plasma events so I did a search as to whether Alfven
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     waves have a frequency. This site pretty well defines
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     a lot of plasma info that we need.   See:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     https://www.britannica.com/science/plasma-state-of-matter#ref507092
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     On 1/10/2019 6:29 AM, Warren Keillor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     schoonersolsticemoon@...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     <mailto:schoonersolsticemoon@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Norman
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Hooper's work looks very compelling. At his time of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     experimentation, super conductors were not a reality
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     as they are now. The fact that a resistance free
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     conductor might accelerate  a potential's velocity,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     after going through a resistor, suggests an analogy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     to fluid dynamics, much like Bernuili's principle
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     application of a venturi to gases.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     The idea of dielectric conductors is a mind smasher,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     inverting our entire circuit thoughts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Generally, pretty radical concepts, in a zone to set
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     us up for quantum physics thinking. Whew!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Cheers Warren
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 3:17 PM, Norman Wootan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         nwootan@... <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Good question Warren! Nobody really knows how
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         the potential and current manifest in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         conductor passing through a flux field. Your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         question is valid cause there very well may be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         some sort of reconnect occurring here. Theory
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         was, that the flux field was photon stream which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         enabled pairing to produce electrons and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         attending current. There is still so much that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         we don't know but things are getting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         interesting. Read that last doc that I posted
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         for it is very enlightening on this subject.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         See:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         http://www.tfcbooks.com/mall/more/temp/x565-hen.htm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         This is one of Oles favorites.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         On 1/9/2019 9:09 AM, Warren Keillor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         schoonersolsticemoon@...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:schoonersolsticemoon@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Norman
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         I wonder if, in a down to earth , practical
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         manner, the connect/re-connect plays a role in,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         for instance, the Kromery, where one slides the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         magnets at right angles to their locked
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         together state.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Initially, I need both hands to grasp the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         flywheel to turn my Kromery.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Once turning, one finger's friction on the rim,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         easily rotates the flywheel, regardless of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         load.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Too fast, then eddy currents start warming the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         magnetic coil cores.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Are we cutting those magnetic lines?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Cheers Warren
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 9:25 AM, Norman
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Wootan nwootan@... <mailto:nwootan@...>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             [EVGRAY]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             http://young.caltech.edu/Collisionless_Magnetic_Reconnection.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             On 1/9/2019 8:21 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             https://phys.org/news/2017-10-hidden-mechanics-magnetic-field-reconnection.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             On 1/9/2019 8:14 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             https://gss.pppl.gov/talks/reconnection%20lecture%201.pdf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             On 1/9/2019 8:09 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007%2F978-94-009-0545-0_14
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Recent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Developments
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Theory
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Reconnection
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Dieter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Biskamp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Max-Planck-Institut
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             fiir
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Plasmaphysik
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             8046
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Garching
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             bei
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Miinchen,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Federal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Republic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Germany
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Abstract
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             talk
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             briefly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             reviews
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             previous
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             stationary
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             models,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             mainly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             configurations
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Petschek
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             type,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             pointing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             shortcomings
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             basic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             failure
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             accounting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             fast
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             reconnection
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             limit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             large
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Reynolds
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             number.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             It
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             shown
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             limit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             relevant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             stationary
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             states
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             exist.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Instead
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             strong
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             small-scale
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             MHD
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             turbulence
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             develops
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             even
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             2D
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             geometry,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             giving
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             rise
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             energy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             dissipation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             reconnection
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             rates
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             independent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             value
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             collisional
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             re-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             sistivity.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Introduction
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             In
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             last
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             decade
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             been realized
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             presence
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             fields
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             ubiquitous
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             phenomenon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             cosmic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             (Message over 64 KB, truncated)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>

I just love some of the answers found on these physics sites. Lol 
OOOOOOOOH BOY!!! YOU GON ON TO MAKE A DOOZY OF A WIRL-WIN AIN'TCHA?!?!

https://www.quora.com/What-will-happen-if-two-electrons-collide-Or-in-other-words-can-we-fuse-electrons

On 1/12/2019 3:01 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Jon Gentry sent me this interesting book preview!  Take a look: 
> https://books.google.com/books?id=Ec6MP26x6J8C&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false
>
> On 1/12/2019 7:19 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>
>> Bert Pool and Phil will appreciate this little piece of history of my 
>> research into Tesla back in the 70s. Before I met the boys of Ft. 
>> Worth Tesla Coil Builders, I called D C Cox and ordered a plan set 
>> for my first Tesla Coil. At the time I also asked for plans for a 
>> large Van de Graff Generator and got a resounding NO! Cox explained 
>> the huge difference between the two systems. In the Van de Graff you 
>> are accumulating charge (electrostatic) that when discharged is a 
>> multi-million volt discharge (DC) that, if you are grounded, flows 
>> through the body and will kill you deader that hell. The Tesla Coil 
>> on the other hand is HVAC at high frequency therefore travels over 
>> your body (skin effect) and will do no harm since the discharge never 
>> penetrates the body.  Oh!  Take off any metals from your body such as 
>> bracelets, rings etc. cause the high freq will cause heating and will 
>> burn you.  I remember my first visit with Bert and Leslie at his 
>> Teslathon at Irving Texas back in the 80s.
>>
>> https://vimeo.com/channels/resonanceresearch
>>
>> https://library.e.abb.com/public/6d17725e73e547d6922c408557562ec4/DC_Resonance%20Analysis%20of%20a%20Hybrid%20HVDC%20System.pdf
>>
>> A note here that is of interest to Angel and Fredric since they are 
>> very active in the transmission of HVDC at  megawatt levels. Any 
>> system that has the basic components of an LC circuit is subject to a 
>> resonance effect. So do not say "What, Resonance in a DC 
>> circuit"???    The switching will get you every time. Lol    Norm
>>
>> On 1/12/2019 6:42 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>
>>> Since it was mentioned in the reddit article: 
>>> https://books.google.com/books/about/The_Ultimate_Reality.html?id=ySsNiCPUPecC
>>>
>>> On 1/12/2019 6:28 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Glad you asked there Mick for almost all of us have our copies of 
>>>> Joseph Cater's Book, Awesome Life Force in which he uses the terms 
>>>> Hard Electrons vs Soft Electrons.  The Scientific Community take a 
>>>> dim view of publications such as this BUT teach, even at MIT that 
>>>> there are hard vs Soft electrons??
>>>>
>>>> See; 
>>>> https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/6twjgw/eli5_what_are_soft_and_hard_electrons/
>>>>
>>>> MIT lecture on Superposition: 
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZ3bPUKo5zc&feature=youtu.be
>>>>
>>>> https://www.diffen.com/difference/Electric_Field_vs_Magnetic_Field
>>>>
>>>> To sum up this whole argument, this article says it best 
>>>> https://www.differencebetween.com/difference-between-static-and-vs-dynamic-electricity/ 
>>>> If it is moving (dynamic) they are hard electrons and carry a 
>>>> magnetic field and electric field.  If they are standing still,  
>>>> (no movement) they are Soft Electrons.  Moving charges create 
>>>> fields. You can charge a large capacitor via an influence machine 
>>>> (electrostatic generator) and as long as the charge is at rest 
>>>> state, it is static electricity. When you discharge the capacitor, 
>>>> the resultant moving of charge (dynamic) creates the fields due to 
>>>> moving charge.  This is how I see it.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.plasma-universe.com/Plasma_classification_(types_of_plasma) 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I had a friend, Leonard Dorsett that lived at Grapevine, TX by the 
>>>> lake. In the evening, just at dusk, the metal roof of his house 
>>>> would glow due to a strange ionization soft plasma. We never 
>>>> figured out  this phenomenon.
>>>>
>>>> On 1/11/2019 8:09 PM, Mick [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Norm,
>>>>>
>>>>> Could you please distill the concept of soft particles?  I read 
>>>>> the Cater book and for some reason have a disconnect concerning 
>>>>> what defines a soft or hard electron etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Mick
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 1/11/2019 9:28 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://physics.tutorcircle.com/modern-physics/pair-production.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/11/2019 7:15 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/225697264_A_standing_wave_acoustic_levitation_system_for_large_planar_objects
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ja Brink & John ,"Thanks for your comments"!  Since I went to 
>>>>>>> Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University and am a dual rated aviator 
>>>>>>> (rotary wing), I concur with your observation regarding the lift 
>>>>>>> multiplication with multiple "counter rotating" rotors for this 
>>>>>>> is where the "pair production" of vortices happens which gives 
>>>>>>> an order of magnitude gross lift.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Having studied the large beetles (Rhinobeetle) it is interesting 
>>>>>>> to watch in slow motion video, them first cam forward and 
>>>>>>> outward and lock their Elytra (Wing cover shell)  "no lift yet", 
>>>>>>> then start rotary wing motion which activates the micro cavity 
>>>>>>> structure (under side of Elyton) then take off with surprising 
>>>>>>> ease!  The anomalous lift is induced by the wing motion air 
>>>>>>> currents under the shells. "Pure and simple"!  Look at the video 
>>>>>>> and please note several Elyton (shells) laying on table "cup 
>>>>>>> side down" and are not "hovering".  They are not "glued down to 
>>>>>>> table top" so if the "static" lift theory were valid they could 
>>>>>>> not simply lie there motionless!  It takes the vortex air 
>>>>>>> movement to create the eddy flow which in-turn activates the AG 
>>>>>>> effects the same as seen in close proximity tornado vortex eddy 
>>>>>>> air flows.  Please see shells laying cup side down here: 
>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HW6uOW4aoJQ
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dallas tornado 2005, semi trailers suspended in mid air!  
>>>>>>> (outside of tornado vortex).  53 ft. trailer weighing 12,000 #s
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 4/3/2017 9:52 PM, jabrinka [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>> In the study of flight when using models to determine flight 
>>>>>>>> characteristics the models are typically smaller than the 
>>>>>>>> aircraft design being studied however the components that make 
>>>>>>>> up air remain the same size so... a smaller version will be 
>>>>>>>> operating in relatively more dense compressible fluid. This is 
>>>>>>>> known as scale effect. When a fish swings its tail to one side 
>>>>>>>> a vortex is created as a result. On the return swing the tail 
>>>>>>>> has the additional rotary motion (angular momentum) to push 
>>>>>>>> against as opposed to a stationary volume of fluid resulting in 
>>>>>>>> extra thrust. This explains the increased efficiency of 
>>>>>>>> multiple rotors on an aircraft drone or otherwise.
>>>>>>>> On the lungan mousetrap buzzer thread, sometime ago 2007ish on 
>>>>>>>> this forum a member Gary (the Skipper ) had a design for a long 
>>>>>>>> coil with em/back emf collecting coils along its length. I had 
>>>>>>>> almost finished my reproduction when the latest spook showed up 
>>>>>>>> with several wild geese for me to chase. Lost my house and 
>>>>>>>> havent made another coil yet. The buzzer kickback Norm 
>>>>>>>> mentioned spelled out for me how Ron Cole's electric car with 
>>>>>>>> all the clicking relays must have worked (before he was 
>>>>>>>> disappeared). Evidently grounding to the car frame was enough 
>>>>>>>> to make a neutral spike of sorts.. heh....heh. Best to all Ja Brink
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> John!  Watch this video and pay close attention to the "Bird in 
>>>>>>> flight part"!    See: 
>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcNGwmV1Yio "Vortex pair 
>>>>>>> generation via leading edge feathers"  allows bird to land 
>>>>>>> "vertically"!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 4/3/2017 8:45 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> John: Sorry! I did not see any evidence of "lift" or 
>>>>>>> anti-gravity with "dead bug" parts!  What are you referring to 
>>>>>>> with the window blind & glue??? I did not see this evidence??  
>>>>>>> My "pair production of counter rotating vortices" is a "dynamic 
>>>>>>> flow" situation and contend that you do not have evidence of a 
>>>>>>> "static" no air flow lift situation! Please show me some 
>>>>>>> evidence of a totally "static lift".  Sure! the movement of 
>>>>>>> "Elytra" on a table top was shown as false due to "electrostatic 
>>>>>>> effects".  I can walk across a polyester carpet and pick up a 
>>>>>>> pair of steel tweasers and make the Elyton move about via 
>>>>>>> electrostatic charge!  Nothing conclusive here! Show me a Elyton 
>>>>>>> hovering in air "static, no air flow" over the table, them I 
>>>>>>> will be convinced!  Sure there is the "AG" effect when the wings 
>>>>>>> of the bug provide the necessary circulating vortex air flow 
>>>>>>> within the micro cavities under the Elytra thus giving the 
>>>>>>> anomalous lift we all see as evidence that very large bugs, 
>>>>>>> rhinobeatles and bumblebees can achieve what the text books 
>>>>>>> prove cannot be done. "Fly"!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sometimes it is great to be able to go back and retreive 
>>>>>>> messages that are applicable to today's topics.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 1/11/2019 6:30 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ok! folks, Ole has brought up a very interesting point when 
>>>>>>>> comparing the air mass, weather and the phenomenon of 
>>>>>>>> levitation, anti-gravity etc. Something that I have been 
>>>>>>>> wanting to bring up but the subject is a little far out of the 
>>>>>>>> mainstream thinking. Lets look at a profound statement here:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Alfven quote:"If a conducting liquid is placed in a constant 
>>>>>>>> magnetic field, every motion of the liquid gives rise to an 
>>>>>>>> E.M.F. which produces electric currents. Owing to the magnetic 
>>>>>>>> field, these currents give mechanical forces which change the 
>>>>>>>> state of motion of the liquid. Thus a kind of combined 
>>>>>>>> electromagnetic-hydrodynamic wave is produced.^"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ^
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ^
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ^Back when I posted the articles on electrostatic generators, I 
>>>>>>>> had stated that the 9th grade Science Class explanation for the 
>>>>>>>> source of the electrons was believed to be a shearing from the 
>>>>>>>> air as the device rotated, example Wimshurst Machine.  WRONG.  
>>>>>>>> I gave you the example of the Felici Electrostatic Generator 
>>>>>>>> http://u2.lege.net/newebmasters.com__freeenergy/external_links_from_theverylastpageoftheinternet.com/highvoltage/HVgenerator/HVgenerator.htm 
>>>>>>>> Here we have a device that uses pure hydrogen gas at 30 bar 
>>>>>>>> pressure as the operating media and produces 2.5 KW at 300KV.   
>>>>>>>> CERN is operating an electrostatic generator that has a deep 
>>>>>>>> vacuum as the operating media. ??   Ole's example of air is 
>>>>>>>> interesting for we have discussed tornadoes and how we observe 
>>>>>>>> Anti-gravitic phenomenon at the vortex base due to the counter  
>>>>>>>> rotating, vortex-anti vortex eddy currents in which we get the 
>>>>>>>> Alfven example of Electromagnetic-hydrodynamics. We see this 
>>>>>>>> same example in the Sonodiffuser with the production of the 
>>>>>>>> micro cavitation production of vortex-counter vortex producing 
>>>>>>>> the photon burst.     Air when ionized is a highly conductive 
>>>>>>>> fluid as is water.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ^
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ^With a background education in Aerodynamics, I studied the 
>>>>>>>> subject as thoroughly as possible an came away with a different 
>>>>>>>> Theory.  See: https://www.mpoweruk.com/flight_theory.htm. 
>>>>>>>> Bernoulli's Principle and Newton's Law of motion do not 
>>>>>>>> complete the puzzle.  In wind tunnel testing of airfoils, 
>>>>>>>> little turfs of string are attached at thousands of points on 
>>>>>>>> the upper, lift producing areas of the wing. There is clear 
>>>>>>>> evidence that micro vertices are produced along with the 
>>>>>>>> counter vertices and we get a gross production of the 
>>>>>>>> anti-gravitic effects as we see in the tornado example. See, I 
>>>>>>>> told you that this fly's way outside of mainstream thinking.   
>>>>>>>> The more we examine the evidence, new conclusions spring 
>>>>>>>> forth.   Thank You Ole for your question opens a whole new 
>>>>>>>> approach into all thing that perturb the Aether.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 1/10/2019 8:40 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Norman,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> When looking at a weather map showing the air pressure wind 
>>>>>>>>> speed or temperature as field lines does that really mean that 
>>>>>>>>> air is made up of field lines or just being some mathematical 
>>>>>>>>> construct? What if the air is made up of small particles only 
>>>>>>>>> connected when bouncing into each other. The particles then 
>>>>>>>>> could transfer forces just like electric and magnetic fields 
>>>>>>>>> or gravitational fields. T.J.J. See 
>>>>>>>>> (https://wiki2.org/en/Thomas_Jefferson_Jackson_See) and C.A. 
>>>>>>>>> Bjérknes (https://wiki2.org/en/Carl_Anton_Bjerknes) 
>>>>>>>>> demonstrated that the same laws applied no matter what medium 
>>>>>>>>> was used and thus concluded that there must be some aether 
>>>>>>>>> behaving like gases or liquids. The same conclusion is made by 
>>>>>>>>> the Rhythmodynamics theory: http://mirit.ru/rd_2007en.htm.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Even gravity is united into those kind of theories but still 
>>>>>>>>> missing in classical electromagnetism. Here is a video showing 
>>>>>>>>> levitating objects using sound waves in air: Present: 
>>>>>>>>> "Levitation in a Sound Standing Wave" (11 khz): 
>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIi5tUupH9c (3:35). Even 
>>>>>>>>> though the sound waves may be described by using field lines I 
>>>>>>>>> don't see this really describing air or sound as being made of 
>>>>>>>>> field lines. It's just a mathematical construct that can be 
>>>>>>>>> broken down to something even smaller. Field lines are very 
>>>>>>>>> useful in describing a field except when the field lines 
>>>>>>>>> become discontinuous at some intersections.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/30fari/what_is_a_magnetic_field_made_of/ 
>>>>>>>>> Interesting note here "Take the magnetic field created by the 
>>>>>>>>> earth for example. This field is very big. If virtual photons 
>>>>>>>>> can travel all the way around the field in a time shorter than 
>>>>>>>>> planck time, aren't they moving faster than the speed of 
>>>>>>>>> light?"   Ah Ha!   Super Light, Super luminal velocities."
>>>>>>>>> This may actually be the case. W.B. Smith couldn't measure any 
>>>>>>>>> delay in the propagation of his tensor beam. His theory tells 
>>>>>>>>> that it carries time along with its length and thus is at the 
>>>>>>>>> same time along its length. What is considered empty space by 
>>>>>>>>> most of science actually has the physical constants of 
>>>>>>>>> permittivity of vacuum and permeability of vacuum as if there 
>>>>>>>>> is still something physical there? The theories that take this 
>>>>>>>>> into account are probably more correct than the ones 
>>>>>>>>> dismissing such facts. According to the theory of 
>>>>>>>>> Rhythmodynamics there are different modes of wave propagation 
>>>>>>>>> like longitudinal waves behaving like transverse waves at some 
>>>>>>>>> distance from the emitters which could be why light and other 
>>>>>>>>> electromagnetic waves are seen as transverse electromagnetic 
>>>>>>>>> waves.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We may be living in several different densities that 
>>>>>>>>> propagates signals at each their own speed. Glass water air 
>>>>>>>>> and vacuum have each their own density and speed of 
>>>>>>>>> propagating electromagnetic waves. Perhaps there are even less 
>>>>>>>>> densities than the ones we know. John W. Keely claimed that 
>>>>>>>>> this is the case.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>> Ole
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ---In [email protected], <nwootan@...> wrote :
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4gCTmlm5RQ
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 1/10/2019 6:21 PM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... 
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>     Lets look at the actual make up of the magnetic flux
>>>>>>>>>>     lines. https://van.physics.illinois.edu/qa/listing.php?id=414
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>     https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/30fari/what_is_a_magnetic_field_made_of/
>>>>>>>>>>     Interesting note here  "Take the magnetic field created
>>>>>>>>>>     by the earth for example. This field is very big. If
>>>>>>>>>>     virtual photons can travel all the way around the field
>>>>>>>>>>     in a time shorter than planck time, aren't they moving
>>>>>>>>>>     faster than the speed of light?" Ah Ha!   Super Light,
>>>>>>>>>>     Super luminal velocities.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYA0bntrjsk&feature=youtu.be
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3P-FGw5KUeo&feature=youtu.be
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crfY2vzVMbI&feature=youtu.be
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rst9EcF9ryk&feature=youtu.be
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hk1cOffTgdk&feature=youtu.be
>>>>>>>>>>     The Best!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>     On 1/10/2019 4:55 PM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>     Thank You, Bert Pool for this new soc.
>>>>>>>>>>>     https://scienceblog.com/505176/scientists-inch-closer-to-fusion-energy-with-discovery-of-a-process-that-stabilizes-plasmas/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>     On 1/10/2019 7:58 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>>>>>>>>     <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>       Alfvén wave
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>     An *Alfvén wave* is a wave that occurs in a plasma
>>>>>>>>>>>>     <https://www.plasma-universe.com/Plasma> (or conducting
>>>>>>>>>>>>     fluid), resulting from the interaction of the magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>>     fields and electric currents
>>>>>>>>>>>>     <https://www.plasma-universe.com/Electric_current>
>>>>>>>>>>>>     within it, causing an oscillation of the ions. Alfvén
>>>>>>>>>>>>     wrote in a letter to the journal /Nature/ in 1942:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         "If a conducting liquid is placed in a constant
>>>>>>>>>>>>         magnetic field, every motion of the liquid gives
>>>>>>>>>>>>         rise to an E.M.F. which produces electric currents.
>>>>>>>>>>>>         Owing to the magnetic field, these currents give
>>>>>>>>>>>>         mechanical forces which change the state of motion
>>>>>>>>>>>>         of the liquid. Thus a kind of combined
>>>>>>>>>>>>         electromagnetic-hydrodynamic wave is produced."^[1]
>>>>>>>>>>>>         <https://www.plasma-universe.com/Alfv%C3%A9n_wave#cite_note-alfven1942-1>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>     Alfvén waves initiated the field of
>>>>>>>>>>>>     magnetohydrodynamics
>>>>>>>>>>>>     <https://www.plasma-universe.com/Magnetohydrodynamics>
>>>>>>>>>>>>     which subsequently earned Alfvén a Nobel Prize.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>     Put some thought behind this statement  "A conductive
>>>>>>>>>>>>     liquid"!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>     On 1/10/2019 7:41 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannes_Alfv%C3%A9n
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Please read this mans research and see how he was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     often rejected by fellow physicists.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     On 1/10/2019 7:31 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     http://aa.springer.de/papers/7324002/2300449.pdf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Still researching the importance of the Alfven waves
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     in plasma.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     On 1/10/2019 6:51 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Moray, Jon Gentry and Warren asked pertinent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     questions regarding velocities, magnetic flux etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     in plasma events so I did a search as to whether
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Alfven waves have a frequency. This site pretty well
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     defines a lot of plasma info that we need.   See:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     https://www.britannica.com/science/plasma-state-of-matter#ref507092
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     On 1/10/2019 6:29 AM, Warren Keillor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     schoonersolsticemoon@...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     <mailto:schoonersolsticemoon@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Norman
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Hooper's work looks very compelling. At his time of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     experimentation, super conductors were not a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     reality as they are now. The fact that a resistance
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     free conductor might accelerate  a potential's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     velocity, after going through a resistor, suggests
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     an analogy to fluid dynamics, much like Bernuili's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     principle application of a venturi to gases.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     The idea of dielectric conductors is a mind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     smasher, inverting our entire circuit thoughts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Generally, pretty radical concepts, in a zone to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     set us up for quantum physics thinking. Whew!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Cheers Warren
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 3:17 PM, Norman Wootan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         nwootan@... <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Good question Warren! Nobody really knows how
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         the potential and current manifest in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         conductor passing through a flux field. Your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         question is valid cause there very well may be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         some sort of reconnect occurring here. Theory
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         was, that the flux field was photon stream
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         which enabled pairing to produce electrons and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         attending current. There is still so much that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         we don't know but things are getting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         interesting. Read that last doc that I posted
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         for it is very enlightening on this subject.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         See:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         http://www.tfcbooks.com/mall/more/temp/x565-hen.htm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         This is one of Oles favorites.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         On 1/9/2019 9:09 AM, Warren Keillor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         schoonersolsticemoon@...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:schoonersolsticemoon@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Norman
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         I wonder if, in a down to earth , practical
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         manner, the connect/re-connect plays a role
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         in, for instance, the Kromery, where one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         slides the magnets at right angles to their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         locked together state.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Initially, I need both hands to grasp the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         flywheel to turn my Kromery.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Once turning, one finger's friction on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         rim, easily rotates the flywheel, regardless
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         of the load.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Too fast, then eddy currents start warming the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         magnetic coil cores.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Are we cutting those magnetic lines?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Cheers Warren
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 9:25 AM, Norman
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Wootan nwootan@... <mailto:nwootan@...>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             [EVGRAY]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             http://young.caltech.edu/Collisionless_Magnetic_Reconnection.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             On 1/9/2019 8:21 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             https://phys.org/news/2017-10-hidden-mechanics-magnetic-field-reconnection.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             On 1/9/2019 8:14 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             https://gss.pppl.gov/talks/reconnection%20lecture%201.pdf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             On 1/9/2019 8:09 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007%2F978-94-009-0545-0_14
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Recent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Developments
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Theory
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Reconnection
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Dieter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Biskamp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Max-Planck-Institut
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             fiir
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Plasmaphysik
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             8046
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Garching
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             bei
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Miinchen,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Federal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Republic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Germany
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Abstract
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             talk
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             briefly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             reviews
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             previous
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             stationary
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             models,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             mainly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             configurations
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Petschek
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             type,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             pointing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             shortcomings
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             basic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             failure
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             accounting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             fast
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             reconnection
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             limit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             large
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Reynolds
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             number.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             It
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             shown
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             limit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             relevant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             stationary
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             states
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             exist.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Instead
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             strong
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             small-scale
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             MHD
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             turbulence
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             develops
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             even
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             2D
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             geometry,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             giving
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             rise
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             energy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             dissipation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             reconnection
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             rates
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             independent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             value
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             collisional
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             re-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             sistivity.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Introduction
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             In
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             last
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             decade
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             been realized
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             presence
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             fields
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             ubiquitous
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             phenomenon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             cosmic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             (Message over 64 KB, truncated)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>

https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/358727/two-electrons-exchanging-a-photon

On 1/12/2019 6:56 PM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>
> I just love some of the answers found on these physics sites. Lol 
> OOOOOOOOH BOY!!! YOU GON ON TO MAKE A DOOZY OF A WIRL-WIN AIN'TCHA?!?!
>
> https://www.quora.com/What-will-happen-if-two-electrons-collide-Or-in-other-words-can-we-fuse-electrons
>
> On 1/12/2019 3:01 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>> Jon Gentry sent me this interesting book preview!  Take a look: 
>> https://books.google.com/books?id=Ec6MP26x6J8C&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false
>>
>> On 1/12/2019 7:19 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>
>>> Bert Pool and Phil will appreciate this little piece of history of 
>>> my research into Tesla back in the 70s. Before I met the boys of Ft. 
>>> Worth Tesla Coil Builders, I called D C Cox and ordered a plan set 
>>> for my first Tesla Coil. At the time I also asked for plans for a 
>>> large Van de Graff Generator and got a resounding NO!  Cox explained 
>>> the huge difference between the two systems. In the Van de Graff you 
>>> are accumulating charge (electrostatic) that when discharged is a 
>>> multi-million volt discharge (DC) that, if you are grounded, flows 
>>> through the body and will kill you deader that hell. The Tesla Coil 
>>> on the other hand is HVAC at high frequency therefore travels over 
>>> your body (skin effect) and will do no harm since the discharge 
>>> never penetrates the body.  Oh!  Take off any metals from your body 
>>> such as bracelets, rings etc. cause the high freq will cause heating 
>>> and will burn you.  I remember my first visit with Bert and Leslie 
>>> at his Teslathon at Irving Texas back in the 80s.
>>>
>>> https://vimeo.com/channels/resonanceresearch
>>>
>>> https://library.e.abb.com/public/6d17725e73e547d6922c408557562ec4/DC_Resonance%20Analysis%20of%20a%20Hybrid%20HVDC%20System.pdf
>>>
>>> A note here that is of interest to Angel and Fredric since they are 
>>> very active in the transmission of HVDC at  megawatt levels. Any 
>>> system that has the basic components of an LC circuit is subject to 
>>> a resonance effect. So do not say "What, Resonance in a DC 
>>> circuit"???    The switching will get you every time. Lol    Norm
>>>
>>> On 1/12/2019 6:42 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Since it was mentioned in the reddit article: 
>>>> https://books.google.com/books/about/The_Ultimate_Reality.html?id=ySsNiCPUPecC
>>>>
>>>> On 1/12/2019 6:28 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Glad you asked there Mick for almost all of us have our copies of 
>>>>> Joseph Cater's Book, Awesome Life Force in which he uses the terms 
>>>>> Hard Electrons vs Soft Electrons.  The Scientific Community take a 
>>>>> dim view of publications such as this BUT teach, even at MIT that 
>>>>> there are hard vs Soft electrons??
>>>>>
>>>>> See; 
>>>>> https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/6twjgw/eli5_what_are_soft_and_hard_electrons/
>>>>>
>>>>> MIT lecture on Superposition: 
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZ3bPUKo5zc&feature=youtu.be
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.diffen.com/difference/Electric_Field_vs_Magnetic_Field
>>>>>
>>>>> To sum up this whole argument, this article says it best 
>>>>> https://www.differencebetween.com/difference-between-static-and-vs-dynamic-electricity/ 
>>>>> If it is moving (dynamic) they are hard electrons and carry a 
>>>>> magnetic field and electric field.  If they are standing still, 
>>>>> (no movement) they are  Soft Electrons.  Moving charges create 
>>>>> fields.  You can charge a large capacitor via an influence machine 
>>>>> (electrostatic generator) and as long as the charge is at rest 
>>>>> state, it is static electricity. When you discharge the capacitor, 
>>>>> the resultant moving of charge (dynamic) creates the fields due to 
>>>>> moving charge.  This is how I see it.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.plasma-universe.com/Plasma_classification_(types_of_plasma) 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I had a friend, Leonard Dorsett that lived at Grapevine, TX by the 
>>>>> lake. In the evening, just at dusk, the metal roof of his house 
>>>>> would glow due to a strange ionization soft plasma. We never 
>>>>> figured out  this phenomenon.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 1/11/2019 8:09 PM, Mick [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Norm,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Could you please distill the concept of soft particles?  I read 
>>>>>> the Cater book and for some reason have a disconnect concerning 
>>>>>> what defines a soft or hard electron etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mick
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/11/2019 9:28 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://physics.tutorcircle.com/modern-physics/pair-production.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 1/11/2019 7:15 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/225697264_A_standing_wave_acoustic_levitation_system_for_large_planar_objects
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ja Brink & John ,"Thanks for your comments"!  Since I went to 
>>>>>>>> Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University and am a dual rated 
>>>>>>>> aviator (rotary wing), I concur with your observation regarding 
>>>>>>>> the lift multiplication with multiple "counter rotating" rotors 
>>>>>>>> for this is where the "pair production" of vortices happens 
>>>>>>>> which gives an order of magnitude gross lift.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Having studied the large beetles (Rhinobeetle) it is 
>>>>>>>> interesting to watch in slow motion video, them first cam 
>>>>>>>> forward and outward and lock their Elytra (Wing cover shell)  
>>>>>>>> "no lift yet", then start rotary wing motion which activates 
>>>>>>>> the micro cavity structure (under side of Elyton) then take off 
>>>>>>>> with surprising ease!  The anomalous lift is induced by the 
>>>>>>>> wing motion air currents under the shells.  "Pure and simple"!  
>>>>>>>> Look at the video and please note several Elyton (shells) 
>>>>>>>> laying on table "cup side down" and are not "hovering".  They 
>>>>>>>> are not "glued down to table top" so if the "static" lift 
>>>>>>>> theory were valid they could not simply lie there motionless!  
>>>>>>>> It takes the vortex air  movement to create the eddy flow which 
>>>>>>>> in-turn activates the AG effects the same as seen in close 
>>>>>>>> proximity tornado vortex eddy air flows.  Please see shells 
>>>>>>>> laying cup side down here: 
>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HW6uOW4aoJQ
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dallas tornado 2005, semi trailers suspended in mid air!  
>>>>>>>> (outside of tornado vortex).  53 ft. trailer weighing 12,000 #s
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 4/3/2017 9:52 PM, jabrinka [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In the study of flight when using models to determine flight 
>>>>>>>>> characteristics the models are typically smaller than the 
>>>>>>>>> aircraft design being studied however the components that make 
>>>>>>>>> up air remain the same size so... a smaller version will be 
>>>>>>>>> operating in relatively more dense compressible fluid. This is 
>>>>>>>>> known as scale effect. When a fish swings its tail to one side 
>>>>>>>>> a vortex is created as a result. On the return swing the tail 
>>>>>>>>> has the additional rotary motion (angular momentum) to push 
>>>>>>>>> against as opposed to a stationary volume of fluid resulting 
>>>>>>>>> in extra thrust. This explains the increased efficiency of 
>>>>>>>>> multiple rotors on an aircraft drone or otherwise.
>>>>>>>>> On the lungan mousetrap buzzer thread, sometime ago 2007ish on 
>>>>>>>>> this forum a member Gary (the Skipper ) had a design for a 
>>>>>>>>> long coil with em/back emf collecting coils along its length. 
>>>>>>>>> I had almost finished my reproduction when the latest spook 
>>>>>>>>> showed up with several wild geese for me to chase. Lost my 
>>>>>>>>> house and havent made another coil yet. The buzzer kickback 
>>>>>>>>> Norm mentioned spelled out for me how Ron Cole's electric car 
>>>>>>>>> with all the clicking relays must have worked (before he was 
>>>>>>>>> disappeared). Evidently grounding to the car frame was enough 
>>>>>>>>> to make a neutral spike of sorts.. heh....heh. Best to all Ja 
>>>>>>>>> Brink
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> John!  Watch this video and pay close attention to the "Bird in 
>>>>>>>> flight part"!    See: 
>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcNGwmV1Yio "Vortex pair 
>>>>>>>> generation via leading edge feathers"  allows bird to land 
>>>>>>>> "vertically"!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 4/3/2017 8:45 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> John: Sorry! I did not see any evidence of "lift" or 
>>>>>>>> anti-gravity with "dead bug" parts!  What are you referring to 
>>>>>>>> with the window blind & glue??? I did not see this evidence??  
>>>>>>>> My "pair production of counter rotating vortices" is a "dynamic 
>>>>>>>> flow" situation and contend that you do not have evidence of a 
>>>>>>>> "static" no air flow lift situation!  Please show me some 
>>>>>>>> evidence of a totally "static lift".  Sure! the movement of 
>>>>>>>> "Elytra" on a table top was shown as false due to 
>>>>>>>> "electrostatic effects".  I can walk across a polyester carpet 
>>>>>>>> and pick up a pair of steel tweasers and make the Elyton move 
>>>>>>>> about via electrostatic charge!  Nothing conclusive here! Show 
>>>>>>>> me a Elyton hovering in air "static, no air flow" over the 
>>>>>>>> table, them I will be convinced! Sure there is the "AG" effect 
>>>>>>>> when the wings of the bug provide the necessary circulating 
>>>>>>>> vortex air flow within the micro cavities under the Elytra thus 
>>>>>>>> giving the anomalous lift we all see as evidence that very 
>>>>>>>> large bugs, rhinobeatles and bumblebees can achieve what the 
>>>>>>>> text books prove cannot be done. "Fly"!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sometimes it is great to be able to go back and retreive 
>>>>>>>> messages that are applicable to today's topics.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 1/11/2019 6:30 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ok! folks, Ole has brought up a very interesting point when 
>>>>>>>>> comparing the air mass, weather and the phenomenon of 
>>>>>>>>> levitation, anti-gravity etc. Something that I have been 
>>>>>>>>> wanting to bring up but the subject is a little far out of the 
>>>>>>>>> mainstream thinking.  Lets look at a profound statement here:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Alfven quote:"If a conducting liquid is placed in a constant 
>>>>>>>>> magnetic field, every motion of the liquid gives rise to an 
>>>>>>>>> E.M.F. which produces electric currents. Owing to the magnetic 
>>>>>>>>> field, these currents give mechanical forces which change the 
>>>>>>>>> state of motion of the liquid. Thus a kind of combined 
>>>>>>>>> electromagnetic-hydrodynamic wave is produced.^"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ^
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ^
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ^Back when I posted the articles on electrostatic generators, 
>>>>>>>>> I had stated that the 9th grade Science Class explanation for 
>>>>>>>>> the source of the electrons was believed to be a shearing from 
>>>>>>>>> the air as the device rotated, example Wimshurst Machine.  
>>>>>>>>> WRONG.  I gave you the example of the Felici Electrostatic 
>>>>>>>>> Generator 
>>>>>>>>> http://u2.lege.net/newebmasters.com__freeenergy/external_links_from_theverylastpageoftheinternet.com/highvoltage/HVgenerator/HVgenerator.htm 
>>>>>>>>> Here we have a device that uses pure hydrogen gas at 30 bar 
>>>>>>>>> pressure as the operating media and produces 2.5 KW at 
>>>>>>>>> 300KV.   CERN is operating an electrostatic generator that has 
>>>>>>>>> a deep vacuum as the operating media. ??   Ole's example of 
>>>>>>>>> air is interesting for we have discussed tornadoes and how we 
>>>>>>>>> observe Anti-gravitic phenomenon at the vortex base due to 
>>>>>>>>> the  counter rotating, vortex-anti vortex eddy currents in 
>>>>>>>>> which we get the Alfven example of 
>>>>>>>>> Electromagnetic-hydrodynamics. We see this same example in the 
>>>>>>>>> Sonodiffuser with the production of the micro cavitation 
>>>>>>>>> production of vortex-counter vortex producing the photon 
>>>>>>>>> burst.     Air when ionized is a highly conductive fluid as is 
>>>>>>>>> water.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ^
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ^With a background education in Aerodynamics, I studied the 
>>>>>>>>> subject as thoroughly as possible an came away with a 
>>>>>>>>> different Theory.  See: 
>>>>>>>>> https://www.mpoweruk.com/flight_theory.htm. Bernoulli's 
>>>>>>>>> Principle and Newton's Law of motion do not complete the 
>>>>>>>>> puzzle.  In wind tunnel testing of airfoils, little turfs of 
>>>>>>>>> string are attached at thousands of points on the upper, lift 
>>>>>>>>> producing areas of the wing.  There is clear evidence that 
>>>>>>>>> micro vertices are produced along with the counter vertices 
>>>>>>>>> and we get a gross production of the anti-gravitic effects as 
>>>>>>>>> we see in the tornado example. See, I told you that this fly's 
>>>>>>>>> way outside of mainstream thinking.   The more we examine the 
>>>>>>>>> evidence, new conclusions spring forth.   Thank You Ole for 
>>>>>>>>> your question opens a whole new approach into all thing that 
>>>>>>>>> perturb the Aether.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 1/10/2019 8:40 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Norman,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> When looking at a weather map showing the air pressure wind 
>>>>>>>>>> speed or temperature as field lines does that really mean 
>>>>>>>>>> that air is made up of field lines or just being some 
>>>>>>>>>> mathematical construct? What if the air is made up of small 
>>>>>>>>>> particles only connected when bouncing into each other. The 
>>>>>>>>>> particles then could transfer forces just like electric and 
>>>>>>>>>> magnetic fields or gravitational fields. T.J.J. See 
>>>>>>>>>> (https://wiki2.org/en/Thomas_Jefferson_Jackson_See) and C.A. 
>>>>>>>>>> Bjérknes (https://wiki2.org/en/Carl_Anton_Bjerknes) 
>>>>>>>>>> demonstrated that the same laws applied no matter what medium 
>>>>>>>>>> was used and thus concluded that there must be some aether 
>>>>>>>>>> behaving like gases or liquids. The same conclusion is made 
>>>>>>>>>> by the Rhythmodynamics theory: http://mirit.ru/rd_2007en.htm.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Even gravity is united into those kind of theories but still 
>>>>>>>>>> missing in classical electromagnetism. Here is a video 
>>>>>>>>>> showing levitating objects using sound waves in air: Present: 
>>>>>>>>>> "Levitation in a Sound Standing Wave" (11 khz): 
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIi5tUupH9c (3:35). Even 
>>>>>>>>>> though the sound waves may be described by using field lines 
>>>>>>>>>> I don't see this really describing air or sound as being made 
>>>>>>>>>> of field lines. It's just a mathematical construct that can 
>>>>>>>>>> be broken down to something even smaller. Field lines are 
>>>>>>>>>> very useful in describing a field except when the field lines 
>>>>>>>>>> become discontinuous at some intersections.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/30fari/what_is_a_magnetic_field_made_of/ 
>>>>>>>>>> Interesting note here "Take the magnetic field created by the 
>>>>>>>>>> earth for example. This field is very big. If virtual photons 
>>>>>>>>>> can travel all the way around the field in a time shorter 
>>>>>>>>>> than planck time, aren't they moving faster than the speed of 
>>>>>>>>>> light?"   Ah Ha!   Super Light, Super luminal velocities."
>>>>>>>>>> This may actually be the case. W.B. Smith couldn't measure 
>>>>>>>>>> any delay in the propagation of his tensor beam. His theory 
>>>>>>>>>> tells that it carries time along with its length and thus is 
>>>>>>>>>> at the same time along its length. What is considered empty 
>>>>>>>>>> space by most of science actually has the physical constants 
>>>>>>>>>> of permittivity of vacuum and permeability of vacuum as if 
>>>>>>>>>> there is still something physical there? The theories that 
>>>>>>>>>> take this into account are probably more correct than the 
>>>>>>>>>> ones dismissing such facts. According to the theory of 
>>>>>>>>>> Rhythmodynamics there are different modes of wave propagation 
>>>>>>>>>> like longitudinal waves behaving like transverse waves at 
>>>>>>>>>> some distance from the emitters which could be why light and 
>>>>>>>>>> other electromagnetic waves are seen as transverse 
>>>>>>>>>> electromagnetic waves.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We may be living in several different densities that 
>>>>>>>>>> propagates signals at each their own speed. Glass water air 
>>>>>>>>>> and vacuum have each their own density and speed of 
>>>>>>>>>> propagating electromagnetic waves. Perhaps there are even 
>>>>>>>>>> less densities than the ones we know. John W. Keely claimed 
>>>>>>>>>> that this is the case.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>> Ole
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ---In [email protected], <nwootan@...> wrote :
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4gCTmlm5RQ
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 1/10/2019 6:21 PM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... 
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>     Lets look at the actual make up of the magnetic flux
>>>>>>>>>>>     lines.
>>>>>>>>>>>     https://van.physics.illinois.edu/qa/listing.php?id=414
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>     https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/30fari/what_is_a_magnetic_field_made_of/
>>>>>>>>>>>     Interesting note here  "Take the magnetic field created
>>>>>>>>>>>     by the earth for example. This field is very big. If
>>>>>>>>>>>     virtual photons can travel all the way around the field
>>>>>>>>>>>     in a time shorter than planck time, aren't they moving
>>>>>>>>>>>     faster than the speed of light?"   Ah Ha!   Super Light,
>>>>>>>>>>>     Super luminal velocities.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYA0bntrjsk&feature=youtu.be
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3P-FGw5KUeo&feature=youtu.be
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crfY2vzVMbI&feature=youtu.be
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rst9EcF9ryk&feature=youtu.be
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hk1cOffTgdk&feature=youtu.be
>>>>>>>>>>>     The Best!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>     On 1/10/2019 4:55 PM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>     Thank You, Bert Pool for this new soc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>     https://scienceblog.com/505176/scientists-inch-closer-to-fusion-energy-with-discovery-of-a-process-that-stabilizes-plasmas/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>     On 1/10/2019 7:58 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>>>>>>>>>     <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>       Alfvén wave
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     An *Alfvén wave* is a wave that occurs in a plasma
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     <https://www.plasma-universe.com/Plasma> (or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     conducting fluid), resulting from the interaction of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     the magnetic fields and electric currents
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     <https://www.plasma-universe.com/Electric_current>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     within it, causing an oscillation of the ions. Alfvén
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     wrote in a letter to the journal /Nature/ in 1942:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         "If a conducting liquid is placed in a constant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         magnetic field, every motion of the liquid gives
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         rise to an E.M.F. which produces electric
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         currents. Owing to the magnetic field, these
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         currents give mechanical forces which change the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         state of motion of the liquid. Thus a kind of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         combined electromagnetic-hydrodynamic wave is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         produced."^[1]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         <https://www.plasma-universe.com/Alfv%C3%A9n_wave#cite_note-alfven1942-1>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Alfvén waves initiated the field of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     magnetohydrodynamics
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     <https://www.plasma-universe.com/Magnetohydrodynamics>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     which subsequently earned Alfvén a Nobel Prize.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Put some thought behind this statement  "A conductive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     liquid"!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     On 1/10/2019 7:41 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannes_Alfv%C3%A9n
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Please read this mans research and see how he was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     often rejected by fellow physicists.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     On 1/10/2019 7:31 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     http://aa.springer.de/papers/7324002/2300449.pdf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Still researching the importance of the Alfven waves
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     in plasma.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     On 1/10/2019 6:51 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Moray, Jon Gentry and Warren asked pertinent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     questions regarding velocities, magnetic flux etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     in plasma events so I did a search as to whether
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Alfven waves have a frequency. This site pretty
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     well defines a lot of plasma info that we need.  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     See:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     https://www.britannica.com/science/plasma-state-of-matter#ref507092
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     On 1/10/2019 6:29 AM, Warren Keillor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     schoonersolsticemoon@...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     <mailto:schoonersolsticemoon@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Norman
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Hooper's work looks very compelling. At his time
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     of experimentation, super conductors were not a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     reality as they are now. The fact that a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     resistance free conductor might accelerate  a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     potential's velocity, after going through a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     resistor, suggests an analogy to fluid dynamics,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     much like Bernuili's principle application of a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     venturi to gases.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     The idea of dielectric conductors is a mind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     smasher, inverting our entire circuit thoughts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Generally, pretty radical concepts, in a zone to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     set us up for quantum physics thinking. Whew!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Cheers Warren
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 3:17 PM, Norman Wootan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         nwootan@... <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Good question Warren! Nobody really knows how
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         the potential and current manifest in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         conductor passing through a flux field. Your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         question is valid cause there very well may be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         some sort of reconnect occurring here. Theory
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         was, that the flux field was photon stream
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         which enabled pairing to produce electrons and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         attending current. There is still so much that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         we don't know but things are getting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         interesting. Read that last doc that I posted
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         for it is very enlightening on this subject.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         See:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         http://www.tfcbooks.com/mall/more/temp/x565-hen.htm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         This is one of Oles favorites.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         On 1/9/2019 9:09 AM, Warren Keillor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         schoonersolsticemoon@...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:schoonersolsticemoon@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Norman
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         I wonder if, in a down to earth , practical
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         manner, the connect/re-connect plays a role
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         in, for instance, the Kromery, where one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         slides the magnets at right angles to their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         locked together state.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Initially, I need both hands to grasp the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         flywheel to turn my Kromery.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Once turning, one finger's friction on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         rim, easily rotates the flywheel, regardless
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         of the load.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Too fast, then eddy currents start warming
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         the magnetic coil cores.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Are we cutting those magnetic lines?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Cheers Warren
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 9:25 AM, Norman
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Wootan nwootan@... <mailto:nwootan@...>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             [EVGRAY]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             http://young.caltech.edu/Collisionless_Magnetic_Reconnection.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             On 1/9/2019 8:21 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             https://phys.org/news/2017-10-hidden-mechanics-magnetic-field-reconnection.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             On 1/9/2019 8:14 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             https://gss.pppl.gov/talks/reconnection%20lecture%201.pdf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             On 1/9/2019 8:09 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007%2F978-94-009-0545-0_14
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Recent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Developments
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Theory
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Reconnection
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Dieter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Biskamp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Max-Planck-Institut
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             fiir
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Plasmaphysik
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             8046
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Garching
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             bei
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Miinchen,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Federal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Republic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Germany
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Abstract
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             talk
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             briefly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             reviews
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             previous
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             stationary
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             models,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             mainly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             configurations
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Petschek
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             type,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             pointing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             shortcomings
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             basic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             failure
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             accounting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             fast
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             reconnection
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             limit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             large
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Reynolds
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             number.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             It
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             shown
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             limit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             relevant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             stationary
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             states
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             exist.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Instead
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             strong
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             small-scale
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             MHD
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             turbulence
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             develops
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             even
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             2D
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             geometry,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             giving
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             rise
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             energy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             dissipation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             reconnection
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             rates
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             independent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             value
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             collisional
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             re-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             sistivity.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Introduction
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             In
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             last
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             decade
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             been realized
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             presence
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             fields
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             ubiquitous
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             phenomenon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             cosmic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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