Re: [EVGRAY] Re: Magnetic flux annihilation-reconnect phenomenon [1 Attachment]

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Hi Norman,

When looking at a weather map showing the air pressure wind speed or temperature as field lines does that really mean that air is made up of field lines or just being some mathematical construct? What if the air is made up of small particles only connected when bouncing into each other. The particles then could transfer forces just like electric and magnetic fields or gravitational fields. T.J.J. See (https://wiki2.org/en/Thomas_Jefferson_Jackson_See https://wiki2.org/en/Thomas_Jefferson_Jackson_See) and C.A. Bjérknes (https://wiki2.org/en/Carl_Anton_Bjerknes https://wiki2.org/en/Carl_Anton_Bjerknes) demonstrated that the same laws applied no matter what medium was used and thus concluded that there must be some aether behaving like gases or liquids. The same conclusion is made by the Rhythmodynamics theory: http://mirit.ru/rd_2007en.htm http://mirit.ru/rd_2007en.htm.

Even gravity is united into those kind of theories but still missing in classical electromagnetism. Here is a video showing levitating objects using sound waves in air: Present: "Levitation in a Sound Standing Wave" (11 khz): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIi5tUupH9c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIi5tUupH9c  (3:35). Even though the sound waves may be described by using field lines I don't see this really describing air or sound as being made of field lines. It's just a mathematical construct that can be broken down to something even smaller. Field lines are very useful in describing a field except when the field lines become discontinuous at some intersections.

"https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/30fari/what_is_a_magnetic_field_made_of/ https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/30fari/what_is_a_magnetic_field_made_of/    Interesting note here  "Take the magnetic field created by the earth for example. This field is very big. If virtual photons can travel all the way around the field in a time shorter than planck time, aren't they moving faster than the speed of light?"   Ah Ha!   Super Light, Super luminal velocities."
This may actually be the case. W.B. Smith couldn't measure any delay in the propagation of his tensor beam. His theory tells that it carries time along with its length and thus is at the same time along its length. What is considered empty space by most of science actually has the physical constants of permittivity of vacuum and permeability of vacuum as if there is still something physical there? The theories that take this into account are probably more correct than the ones dismissing such facts. According to the theory of Rhythmodynamics there are different modes of wave propagation like longitudinal waves behaving like transverse waves at some distance from the emitters which could be why light and other electromagnetic waves are seen as transverse electromagnetic waves.

We may be living in several different densities that propagates signals at each their own speed. Glass water air and vacuum have each their own density and speed of propagating electromagnetic waves. Perhaps there are even less densities than the ones we know. John W. Keely claimed that this is the case.

Regards
Ole


 

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 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4gCTmlm5RQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4gCTmlm5RQ

 On 1/10/2019 6:21 PM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... mailto:nwootan@... [EVGRAY] wrote:

   
 Lets look at the actual make up of the magnetic flux lines.  https://van.physics.illinois.edu/qa/listing.php?id=414 https://van.physics.illinois.edu/qa/listing.php?id=414
 https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/30fari/what_is_a_magnetic_field_made_of/ https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/30fari/what_is_a_magnetic_field_made_of/    Interesting note here  "Take the magnetic field created by the earth for example. This field is very big. If virtual photons can travel all the way around the field in a time shorter than planck time, aren't they moving faster than the speed of light?"   Ah Ha!   Super Light, Super luminal velocities.
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYA0bntrjsk&feature=youtu.be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYA0bntrjsk&feature=youtu.be
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3P-FGw5KUeo&feature=youtu.be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3P-FGw5KUeo&feature=youtu.be
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crfY2vzVMbI&feature=youtu.be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crfY2vzVMbI&feature=youtu.be
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rst9EcF9ryk&feature=youtu.be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rst9EcF9ryk&feature=youtu.be
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hk1cOffTgdk&feature=youtu.be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hk1cOffTgdk&feature=youtu.be   The Best!

 On 1/10/2019 4:55 PM, Norman Wootan wrote:

 Thank You, Bert Pool for this new soc.   https://scienceblog.com/505176/scientists-inch-closer-to-fusion-energy-with-discovery-of-a-process-that-stabilizes-plasmas/ https://scienceblog.com/505176/scientists-inch-closer-to-fusion-energy-with-discovery-of-a-process-that-stabilizes-plasmas/

 On 1/10/2019 7:58 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... mailto:nwootan@... [EVGRAY] wrote:

   
 Alfvén wave 
 An Alfvén wave is a wave that occurs in a plasma https://www.plasma-universe.com/Plasma (or conducting fluid), resulting from the interaction of the magnetic fields and electric currents within it, causing an oscillation of the ions. Alfvén wrote in a letter to the journal Nature in 1942:
 "If a conducting liquid is placed in a constant magnetic field, every motion of the liquid gives rise to an E.M.F. which produces electric currents. Owing to the magnetic field, these currents give mechanical forces which change the state of motion of the liquid. Thus a kind of combined electromagnetic-hydrodynamic wave is produced."[1] https://www.plasma-universe.com/Alfv%C3%A9n_wave#cite_note-alfven1942-1 Alfvén waves initiated the field of magnetohydrodynamics https://www.plasma-universe.com/Magnetohydrodynamics which subsequently earned Alfvén a Nobel Prize. 

 Put some thought behind this statement  "A conductive liquid"!!

 On 1/10/2019 7:41 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannes_Alfv%C3%A9n https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannes_Alfv%C3%A9n    Please read this mans research and see how he was often rejected by fellow physicists.

 On 1/10/2019 7:31 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:

 http://aa.springer.de/papers/7324002/2300449.pdf http://aa.springer.de/papers/7324002/2300449.pdf   Still researching the importance of the Alfven waves in plasma.

 On 1/10/2019 6:51 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:

 Moray, Jon Gentry and Warren asked pertinent questions regarding velocities, magnetic flux etc. in plasma events so I did a search as to whether Alfven waves have a frequency.  This site pretty well defines a lot of plasma info that we need.   See:  https://www.britannica.com/science/plasma-state-of-matter#ref507092 https://www.britannica.com/science/plasma-state-of-matter#ref507092

 On 1/10/2019 6:29 AM, Warren Keillor schoonersolsticemoon@... mailto:schoonersolsticemoon@... [EVGRAY] wrote:

   Norman Hooper's work looks very compelling. At his time of experimentation, super conductors were not a reality as they are now. The fact that a resistance free conductor might accelerate  a potential's velocity, after going through a resistor, suggests an analogy to fluid dynamics, much like Bernuili's principle application of a venturi to gases.
 The idea of dielectric conductors is a mind smasher, inverting our entire circuit thoughts.
 Generally, pretty radical concepts, in a zone to set us up for quantum physics thinking. Whew!
 Cheers Warren
 
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 On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 3:17 PM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... mailto:nwootan@... [EVGRAY]
 <[email protected]> mailto:[email protected] wrote:

   
 Good question Warren!   Nobody really knows how the potential and current manifest in the conductor passing through a flux field. Your question is valid cause there very well may be some sort of reconnect occurring here. Theory was, that the flux field was photon stream which enabled pairing to produce electrons and attending current.  There is still so much that we don't know but things are getting interesting.   Read that last doc that I posted for it is very enlightening on this subject.  See:  http://www.tfcbooks.com/mall/more/temp/x565-hen.htm http://www.tfcbooks.com/mall/more/temp/x565-hen.htm   This is one of Oles  favorites.

 On 1/9/2019 9:09 AM, Warren Keillor schoonersolsticemoon@... mailto:schoonersolsticemoon@... [EVGRAY] wrote:

   Norman
 I wonder if, in a down to earth , practical manner, the connect/re-connect plays a role in, for instance, the Kromery, where one slides the magnets at right angles to their locked together state.
 Initially, I need both hands to grasp the flywheel to turn my Kromery.
 Once turning, one finger's friction on the rim, easily rotates the flywheel, regardless of the load.
 Too fast, then eddy currents start warming the magnetic coil cores.
 Are we cutting those magnetic lines?
 Cheers Warren
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 On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 9:25 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... mailto:nwootan@... [EVGRAY]
 <[email protected]> mailto:[email protected] wrote:

   
 http://young.caltech.edu/Collisionless_Magnetic_Reconnection.html http://young.caltech.edu/Collisionless_Magnetic_Reconnection.html

 On 1/9/2019 8:21 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:

 https://phys.org/news/2017-10-hidden-mechanics-magnetic-field-reconnection.html https://phys.org/news/2017-10-hidden-mechanics-magnetic-field-reconnection.html

 On 1/9/2019 8:14 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:

 https://gss.pppl.gov/talks/reconnection%20lecture%201.pdf https://gss.pppl.gov/talks/reconnection%20lecture%201.pdf

 On 1/9/2019 8:09 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:

 
 



 

 




 
 https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007%2F978-94-009-0545-0_14 https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007%2F978-94-009-0545-0_14
 

 
 

 

 
 
 

 
 Recent
 Developments
 in
 the
 Theory
 of
 Magnetic
 Reconnection
 Dieter
 Biskamp
 Max-Planck-Institut
 fiir
 Plasmaphysik
 8046
 Garching
 bei
 Miinchen,
 Federal
 Republic
 of
 Germany
 Abstract
 The
 talk
 briefly
 reviews
 previous
 stationary
 models,
 mainly
 configurations
 of
 the
 Petschek
 type,
 pointing
 out
 their
 shortcomings
 and
 basic
 failure
 in
 accounting
 for
 fast
 magnetic
 reconnection
 in
 the
 limit
 of
 large
 magnetic
 Reynolds
 number.
 It
 is
 shown
 that
 in
 this
 limit
 no
 relevant
 stationary
 states
 exist.
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 strong
 small-scale
 MHD
 turbulence
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 even
 in
 2D
 geometry,
 giving
 rise
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 energy
 dissipation
 and
 reconnection
 rates
 independent
 of
 the
 value
 of
 the
 collisional
 re-
 sistivity.
 I
 Introduction
 In
 the
 last
 decade
 it
 has
 been realized
 that
 the
 presence
 of
 magnetic
 fields
 is
 a
 ubiquitous
 phenomenon
 in
 cosmic
 

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