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Ok! folks, Ole has brought up a very interesting point when comparing
the air mass, weather and the phenomenon of levitation, anti-gravity
etc. Something that I have been wanting to bring up but the subject is a
little far out of the mainstream thinking. Lets look at a profound
statement here:
Alfven quote:"If a conducting liquid is placed in a constant magnetic
field, every motion of the liquid gives rise to an E.M.F. which produces
electric currents. Owing to the magnetic field, these currents give
mechanical forces which change the state of motion of the liquid. Thus a
kind of combined electromagnetic-hydrodynamic wave is produced.^"
^
^
^Back when I posted the articles on electrostatic generators, I had
stated that the 9th grade Science Class explanation for the source of
the electrons was believed to be a shearing from the air as the device
rotated, example Wimshurst Machine. WRONG. I gave you the example of
the Felici Electrostatic Generator
http://u2.lege.net/newebmasters.com__freeenergy/external_links_from_theverylastpageoftheinternet.com/highvoltage/HVgenerator/HVgenerator.htm
Here we have a device that uses pure hydrogen gas at 30 bar pressure as
the operating media and produces 2.5 KW at 300KV. CERN is operating an
electrostatic generator that has a deep vacuum as the operating media.
?? Ole's example of air is interesting for we have discussed tornadoes
and how we observe Anti-gravitic phenomenon at the vortex base due to
the counter rotating, vortex-anti vortex eddy currents in which we get
the Alfven example of Electromagnetic-hydrodynamics. We see this same
example in the Sonodiffuser with the production of the micro cavitation
production of vortex-counter vortex producing the photon burst. Air
when ionized is a highly conductive fluid as is water.
^
^With a background education in Aerodynamics, I studied the subject as
thoroughly as possible an came away with a different Theory. See:
https://www.mpoweruk.com/flight_theory.htm. Bernoulli's Principle and
Newton's Law of motion do not complete the puzzle. In wind tunnel
testing of airfoils, little turfs of string are attached at thousands of
points on the upper, lift producing areas of the wing. There is clear
evidence that micro vertices are produced along with the counter
vertices and we get a gross production of the anti-gravitic effects as
we see in the tornado example. See, I told you that this fly's way
outside of mainstream thinking. The more we examine the evidence, new
conclusions spring forth. Thank You Ole for your question opens a
whole new approach into all thing that perturb the Aether.
On 1/10/2019 8:40 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Hi Norman,
>
> When looking at a weather map showing the air pressure wind speed or
> temperature as field lines does that really mean that air is made up
> of field lines or just being some mathematical construct? What if the
> air is made up of small particles only connected when bouncing into
> each other. The particles then could transfer forces just like
> electric and magnetic fields or gravitational fields. T.J.J. See
> (https://wiki2.org/en/Thomas_Jefferson_Jackson_See) and C.A. Bjérknes
> (https://wiki2.org/en/Carl_Anton_Bjerknes) demonstrated that the same
> laws applied no matter what medium was used and thus concluded that
> there must be some aether behaving like gases or liquids. The same
> conclusion is made by the Rhythmodynamics theory:
> http://mirit.ru/rd_2007en.htm.
>
> Even gravity is united into those kind of theories but still missing
> in classical electromagnetism. Here is a video showing levitating
> objects using sound waves in air: Present: "Levitation in a Sound
> Standing Wave" (11 khz): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIi5tUupH9c
> (3:35). Even though the sound waves may be described by using field
> lines I don't see this really describing air or sound as being made of
> field lines. It's just a mathematical construct that can be broken
> down to something even smaller. Field lines are very useful in
> describing a field except when the field lines become discontinuous at
> some intersections.
>
> "https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/30fari/what_is_a_magnetic_field_made_of/
> Interesting note here "Take the magnetic field created by the earth
> for example. This field is very big. If virtual photons can travel all
> the way around the field in a time shorter than planck time, aren't
> they moving faster than the speed of light?" Ah Ha! Super Light,
> Super luminal velocities."
> This may actually be the case. W.B. Smith couldn't measure any delay
> in the propagation of his tensor beam. His theory tells that it
> carries time along with its length and thus is at the same time along
> its length. What is considered empty space by most of science actually
> has the physical constants of permittivity of vacuum and permeability
> of vacuum as if there is still something physical there? The theories
> that take this into account are probably more correct than the ones
> dismissing such facts. According to the theory of Rhythmodynamics
> there are different modes of wave propagation like longitudinal waves
> behaving like transverse waves at some distance from the emitters
> which could be why light and other electromagnetic waves are seen as
> transverse electromagnetic waves.
>
> We may be living in several different densities that propagates
> signals at each their own speed. Glass water air and vacuum have each
> their own density and speed of propagating electromagnetic waves.
> Perhaps there are even less densities than the ones we know. John W.
> Keely claimed that this is the case.
>
> Regards
> Ole
>
>
>
>
> ---In [email protected], <nwootan@...> wrote :
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4gCTmlm5RQ
>
> On 1/10/2019 6:21 PM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... <mailto:nwootan@...>
> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
>> Lets look at the actual make up of the magnetic flux lines.
>> https://van.physics.illinois.edu/qa/listing.php?id=414
>>
>> https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/30fari/what_is_a_magnetic_field_made_of/
>> Interesting note here "Take the magnetic field created by the
>> earth for example. This field is very big. If virtual photons can
>> travel all the way around the field in a time shorter than planck
>> time, aren't they moving faster than the speed of light?" Ah
>> Ha! Super Light, Super luminal velocities.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYA0bntrjsk&feature=youtu.be
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3P-FGw5KUeo&feature=youtu.be
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crfY2vzVMbI&feature=youtu.be
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rst9EcF9ryk&feature=youtu.be
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hk1cOffTgdk&feature=youtu.be The
>> Best!
>>
>> On 1/10/2019 4:55 PM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>
>>> Thank You, Bert Pool for this new soc.
>>> https://scienceblog.com/505176/scientists-inch-closer-to-fusion-energy-with-discovery-of-a-process-that-stabilizes-plasmas/
>>>
>>> On 1/10/2019 7:58 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>> <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Alfvén wave
>>>>
>>>> An *Alfvén wave* is a wave that occurs in a plasma
>>>> <https://www.plasma-universe.com/Plasma> (or conducting fluid),
>>>> resulting from the interaction of the magnetic fields and
>>>> electric currents
>>>> <https://www.plasma-universe.com/Electric_current> within it,
>>>> causing an oscillation of the ions. Alfvén wrote in a letter to
>>>> the journal /Nature/ in 1942:
>>>>
>>>> "If a conducting liquid is placed in a constant magnetic
>>>> field, every motion of the liquid gives rise to an E.M.F.
>>>> which produces electric currents. Owing to the magnetic
>>>> field, these currents give mechanical forces which change
>>>> the state of motion of the liquid. Thus a kind of combined
>>>> electromagnetic-hydrodynamic wave is produced."^[1]
>>>> <https://www.plasma-universe.com/Alfv%C3%A9n_wave#cite_note-alfven1942-1>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Alfvén waves initiated the field of magnetohydrodynamics
>>>> <https://www.plasma-universe.com/Magnetohydrodynamics> which
>>>> subsequently earned Alfvén a Nobel Prize.
>>>>
>>>> Put some thought behind this statement "A conductive liquid"!!
>>>>
>>>> On 1/10/2019 7:41 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannes_Alfv%C3%A9n Please read
>>>>> this mans research and see how he was often rejected by fellow
>>>>> physicists.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 1/10/2019 7:31 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://aa.springer.de/papers/7324002/2300449.pdf Still
>>>>>> researching the importance of the Alfven waves in plasma.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/10/2019 6:51 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Moray, Jon Gentry and Warren asked pertinent questions
>>>>>>> regarding velocities, magnetic flux etc. in plasma events so
>>>>>>> I did a search as to whether Alfven waves have a frequency.
>>>>>>> This site pretty well defines a lot of plasma info that we
>>>>>>> need. See:
>>>>>>> https://www.britannica.com/science/plasma-state-of-matter#ref507092
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 1/10/2019 6:29 AM, Warren Keillor
>>>>>>> schoonersolsticemoon@... <mailto:schoonersolsticemoon@...>
>>>>>>> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>> Norman
>>>>>>>> Hooper's work looks very compelling. At his time of
>>>>>>>> experimentation, super conductors were not a reality as
>>>>>>>> they are now. The fact that a resistance free conductor
>>>>>>>> might accelerate a potential's velocity, after going
>>>>>>>> through a resistor, suggests an analogy to fluid dynamics,
>>>>>>>> much like Bernuili's principle application of a venturi to
>>>>>>>> gases.
>>>>>>>> The idea of dielectric conductors is a mind smasher,
>>>>>>>> inverting our entire circuit thoughts.
>>>>>>>> Generally, pretty radical concepts, in a zone to set us up
>>>>>>>> for quantum physics thinking. Whew!
>>>>>>>> Cheers Warren
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 3:17 PM, Norman Wootan
>>>>>>>> nwootan@... <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY]
>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Good question Warren! Nobody really knows how the
>>>>>>>> potential and current manifest in the conductor passing
>>>>>>>> through a flux field. Your question is valid cause
>>>>>>>> there very well may be some sort of reconnect occurring
>>>>>>>> here. Theory was, that the flux field was photon stream
>>>>>>>> which enabled pairing to produce electrons and
>>>>>>>> attending current. There is still so much that we don't
>>>>>>>> know but things are getting interesting. Read that last
>>>>>>>> doc that I posted for it is very enlightening on this
>>>>>>>> subject. See:
>>>>>>>> http://www.tfcbooks.com/mall/more/temp/x565-hen.htm
>>>>>>>> This is one of Oles favorites.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 1/9/2019 9:09 AM, Warren Keillor
>>>>>>>> schoonersolsticemoon@...
>>>>>>>> <mailto:schoonersolsticemoon@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Norman
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I wonder if, in a down to earth , practical manner,
>>>>>>>>> the connect/re-connect plays a role in, for instance,
>>>>>>>>> the Kromery, where one slides the magnets at right
>>>>>>>>> angles to their locked together state.
>>>>>>>>> Initially, I need both hands to grasp the flywheel to
>>>>>>>>> turn my Kromery.
>>>>>>>>> Once turning, one finger's friction on the rim, easily
>>>>>>>>> rotates the flywheel, regardless of the load.
>>>>>>>>> Too fast, then eddy currents start warming the
>>>>>>>>> magnetic coil cores.
>>>>>>>>> Are we cutting those magnetic lines?
>>>>>>>>> Cheers Warren
>>>>>>>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>>>>>>>> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 9:25 AM, Norman Wootan
>>>>>>>>> nwootan@... <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY]
>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://young.caltech.edu/Collisionless_Magnetic_Reconnection.html
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 1/9/2019 8:21 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://phys.org/news/2017-10-hidden-mechanics-magnetic-field-reconnection.html
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 1/9/2019 8:14 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://gss.pppl.gov/talks/reconnection%20lecture%201.pdf
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/9/2019 8:09 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007%2F978-94-009-0545-0_14
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Recent
>>>>>>>>>>>> Developments
>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> Theory
>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>> Magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>> Reconnection
>>>>>>>>>>>> Dieter
>>>>>>>>>>>> Biskamp
>>>>>>>>>>>> Max-Planck-Institut
>>>>>>>>>>>> fiir
>>>>>>>>>>>> Plasmaphysik
>>>>>>>>>>>> 8046
>>>>>>>>>>>> Garching
>>>>>>>>>>>> bei
>>>>>>>>>>>> Miinchen,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Federal
>>>>>>>>>>>> Republic
>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>> Germany
>>>>>>>>>>>> Abstract
>>>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>>> talk
>>>>>>>>>>>> briefly
>>>>>>>>>>>> reviews
>>>>>>>>>>>> previous
>>>>>>>>>>>> stationary
>>>>>>>>>>>> models,
>>>>>>>>>>>> mainly
>>>>>>>>>>>> configurations
>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> Petschek
>>>>>>>>>>>> type,
>>>>>>>>>>>> pointing
>>>>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>>>> shortcomings
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> basic
>>>>>>>>>>>> failure
>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>> accounting
>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>> fast
>>>>>>>>>>>> magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>> reconnection
>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> limit
>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>> large
>>>>>>>>>>>> magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>> Reynolds
>>>>>>>>>>>> number.
>>>>>>>>>>>> It
>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>> shown
>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>> limit
>>>>>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>>>>> relevant
>>>>>>>>>>>> stationary
>>>>>>>>>>>> states
>>>>>>>>>>>> exist.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Instead
>>>>>>>>>>>> strong
>>>>>>>>>>>> small-scale
>>>>>>>>>>>> MHD
>>>>>>>>>>>> turbulence
>>>>>>>>>>>> develops
>>>>>>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2D
>>>>>>>>>>>> geometry,
>>>>>>>>>>>> giving
>>>>>>>>>>>> rise
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> energy
>>>>>>>>>>>> dissipation
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> reconnection
>>>>>>>>>>>> rates
>>>>>>>>>>>> independent
>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> value
>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> collisional
>>>>>>>>>>>> re-
>>>>>>>>>>>> sistivity.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>> Introduction
>>>>>>>>>>>> In
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> last
>>>>>>>>>>>> decade
>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>>>>> been realized
>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> presence
>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>> magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>> fields
>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>> ubiquitous
>>>>>>>>>>>> phenomenon
>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>> cosmic
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> (Message over 64 KB, truncated)
>>>>>>>>>
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