Neutral spike

http://13571113.blogspot.com/2012/12/flux-compression-generator-magnetic.html 
Mick! some interesting items here such as Permanent magnet flux source 
which eliminates the capacitors and HV requirements!

On 11/21/2018 6:24 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>
> Thanks! James, I am very well versed on all of Bedini's work. Welcome 
> to the Mick & Norm conversation for all input is welcome!   All of 
> this goes way, way back to 1899 when Tesla was into improving Telegraphy.
>
> On 11/20/2018 8:30 PM, James Glinski [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>> Norm who were you talking to ?
>>
>> The Bedini ground was just a source to drag up more electrons past 
>> the diodes going to the caps in response to the hivoltage pluse .
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 20, 2018, Mick [email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>     Norm,
>>
>>     OK thanks back to the bench, need to check BH on the battery
>>     setup again...
>>
>>
>>     On 11/20/2018 3:01 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected]
>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>>     I see that you still have not had your LIGHT COME ON YET.  You
>>>     are dwelling on the source side of the circuit which is not the
>>>     answer.  Simply put, you have to create the condition where you
>>>     have a totally isolated charged inductor and charged capacitors
>>>     (TOTALLY ISOLATED) from any ground reference.  Energy simply
>>>     cannot vanish into empty space. My 5 HP motor experiment
>>>     accomplished the isolation condition and when the energy was
>>>     annihilated, inductor energy & capacitor energy cancelled , I
>>>     got the EMP response from the earth side of the circuit.  To
>>>     hell with the source, for once the inductor is flux loaded, to
>>>     saturation and capacitors are charged, then the source is
>>>     totally out of the equation. Once that starting contactor opens
>>>     the source is no longer a factor. In all of my trials with this,
>>>     I have never seen any degrading or rupture of dielectric
>>>     material nor damage to any wiring, no matter how small. The
>>>     energy is in the form of a very high freq (RF event) with very
>>>     high current but no damage to small appliance motors.  I lived
>>>     in a Dallas neighborhood that had a power distribution sub
>>>     station just down the street from me. Numerous times during
>>>     lightning storms I had been awakened by my VHS VCR, old top
>>>     loader, (turned off) tape mechanism start up and start to eject
>>>     tape, get half way and reverse and put tape back down as before
>>>     it started. Like a 1/2 cycle operation. This was sort of the
>>>     same EMP neutral side surge which affected the tape drive
>>>     mechanism.  People see the sort of thing but are not smart
>>>     enough to question why they happen!      Sorry to say that most
>>>     of my experimentation was done on the KEELY BBS and was a closed
>>>     group.
>>>
>>>     On 11/20/2018 11:33 AM, Mick [email protected]
>>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     Norm,
>>>>
>>>>     Thank you for the in depth post of your experience uncovering
>>>>     this event.  Sorry to frustrate you with what seem like
>>>>     repetitive questions. Everything here is understood.  My
>>>>     question had to do with the source side of the whole systemic
>>>>     occurrence and not that I don't understand just that I like
>>>>     things to be very succinct in my small brain, therefore I was
>>>>     trying to map out the circuit including all E and B field
>>>>     connections in order that for instance the ceiling fan
>>>>     experiment be replicated from a battery inverter source without
>>>>     connection to the utility.  In other words the DUH I brought up
>>>>     the other week.  You have explained the phenomenon and it's
>>>>     creation many times but seem to have left out the functions
>>>>     from the source side of the circuit and how that interacts with
>>>>     the whole experiment and magnetic connect-anniliation-reconnect.
>>>>
>>>>     I have successfully replicated the shots to larger and smaller
>>>>     scale while using the utility sourced power but not yet
>>>>     reliably from an inverter driven isolated system so attempting
>>>>     to determine the best way to move forward on the source side
>>>>     without burning up any more devices or at least a minimum so. 
>>>>     I think I need to procure an iso transformer with a center tap
>>>>     and ground it on the sink side to the center tap in order there
>>>>     is the magnetic connection to the earth on source side in the
>>>>     first place not just the ground rod on the sink side of the
>>>>     experiment.  Otherwise part two will require a giant stepdown
>>>>     of similar proportions to a pole pig.  Just trying to
>>>>     streamline and keep expenses low.
>>>>
>>>>     I hope the above does not further frustrate you but rather
>>>>     conveys the why of my question which I can see seemed to be
>>>>     circular and puerile. Sorry to offend.
>>>>
>>>>     By the way I don't know if you had posted this story before but
>>>>     with Yahoo and search and all your references to the neutral
>>>>     spike event I have never uncovered it.
>>>>
>>>>     Thank again!
>>>>
>>>>     On 11/20/2018 6:58 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected]
>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>     Mick!  I am getting just like Hector here by having to explain
>>>>>     something over and over!  I guess short memory is the cause
>>>>>     for lack of understanding the whole project.   First you have
>>>>>     to go back to the 1981 ceiling fan, 1/6th HP capacitor run
>>>>>     shaded pole motor problem. A wiring error by a Chinese
>>>>>     assembly worker incorrectly wired the capacitor reversing
>>>>>     switch into the neutral side of the circuit which provided a
>>>>>     total isolation of charge while the switch was in transition
>>>>>     from forward operation  to reverse operation. Reversing switch
>>>>>     would explode.  This was my first encounter with the
>>>>>     phenomenon which I researched and determined that it was a
>>>>>     Magneto-Electric effect or better put, Magnetic flux
>>>>>     annihilation-reconnect as we now know it. In Physics we have
>>>>>     always been taught that energy cannot be destroyed but can
>>>>>     change forms as we clearly see by simple experiment. With this
>>>>>     knowledge tucked back in the memory bank, I had the occasion
>>>>>     to encounter this phenomenon again in around 1984. A wealthy
>>>>>     widow had remodeled her expansive Highland Park home (Dallas)
>>>>>     and I had installed a projection TV system into her den.   MS.
>>>>>     Sharp called and said  she had a Poltergeist in her den. When
>>>>>     I arrived she served tea and told me to sit there and wait a
>>>>>     few minutes. The TV screen and projector both started
>>>>>     descending from the ceiling then reversed and went back up. 
>>>>>     Both these motors were shaded pole, capacitor run design so
>>>>>     that switching via wall switch could reverse operation, either
>>>>>     up or down against limit switches. Here is the Somfy motor
>>>>>     example so you understand how they operate:
>>>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMHEJ2iIu14&feature=youtu.be
>>>>>     <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMHEJ2iIu14&feature=youtu.be>
>>>>>     When I went into attic to examine the motorized units the
>>>>>     phenomenon occurred again. Sure enough the screen and
>>>>>     projector descended half way down then reversed and retracted.
>>>>>     Over my head was a powered turbo ventilator attic fan of
>>>>>     shaded pole design which took off ZIIIIINNNNG , super fast
>>>>>     acceleration up to a speed about 10X design speed but one big
>>>>>     problem was that it took off backwards! The turbine took
>>>>>     several minutes to coast down to a stop.  A visit downstairs
>>>>>     found that a small appliance like a counter top blender in the
>>>>>     kitchen (shaded pole motor) would take off spinning backwards
>>>>>     then stop.  The only connection that all these motor had when
>>>>>     sitting in a turned off state was a connection to the neutral
>>>>>     buss.   Interesting fact was that with the very small size
>>>>>     motor windings and sudden fantastic acceleration up to very
>>>>>     high speed (backwards) did no damage to the motors. I did an
>>>>>     inspection to the mains breakers and house wiring including
>>>>>     the service cabelling and earth ground at the mains panel. All
>>>>>     was up to Dallas Code. While walking in side yard, I found a
>>>>>     brand new installation of a 5 ton A/C Condensing unit. in
>>>>>     addition to the older 5 ton unit. Both units were earth bonded
>>>>>     via the Required (Highland Park Code) 10 ft. ground rod at the
>>>>>     units. Both units were 5  Ton, 230VAC single phase.   While I
>>>>>     was looking at the A/C units , the new one tried to start
>>>>>     against a locked rotor condition.  From contactor closure to
>>>>>     WHUUUUUMP, EMP shot which you could feel the brissance in the
>>>>>     ground took about 1/2 second.  This was the source of the EMP
>>>>>     event which caused the neutral buss to carry this very unusual
>>>>>     form of energy.  The A/C guys came out and replaced the
>>>>>     compressor and rectified the situation but I came away with a
>>>>>     better understanding a very common phenomenon that most do not
>>>>>     take time to fully understand nor appreciate the implications.
>>>>>     By studing the ongoing research of the natural occurrence of
>>>>>     this EMP phenomenon from Solar magnetic storms Magnetic
>>>>>     Annihilation -Reconnect which have been duplicated in Labs
>>>>>     gathering better understanding of phenomenon. I elected to
>>>>>     bench top duplicate the situation which I had observed back in
>>>>>     1984 at the Sharp residence.  Since I was doing HVAC,
>>>>>     Electrical and Electronics Contracting, I had many compressors
>>>>>     at my disposal just like the one in the Carrier A/C unit.   
>>>>>     By hydraulic locking the compressor via filling with oil and
>>>>>     pinching off the suction and discharge lines you have a fully
>>>>>     locked up sealed unit See:
>>>>>
>>>>>     This unit utilizes a 40mfd start cap and a 5mfd run cap
>>>>>     controlled by current relay. When energized via 2 pole,230VAC,
>>>>>     starter contactor, both the start and run windings are
>>>>>     energized. When the Over current relay senses the locked rotor
>>>>>     current of 84 amps ( motor in magnetic saturation) the circuit
>>>>>     is opened leaving the stored energy in total isolation with no
>>>>>     ground reference.  A NECESSARY CONDITION TO GET THE MAGNETIC
>>>>>     FLUX ANNIHILATION-Re-CONNECT PHENOMENON or EMP.     This
>>>>>     experiment is something anyone can duplicate and observe the
>>>>>     phenomenon for yourself.  The reversible ceiling fan is the
>>>>>     simplest and easiest and less expensive to replicate. Most
>>>>>     current available reversible fans utilize the electrical
>>>>>     capacitor relocation via toggle switch to reverse rotation. 
>>>>>     All you have to do is open up circuit and re-wire the cap so
>>>>>     that you have a momentary loss of ground reference (neutral)
>>>>>     while the reversing switch is in transit. Reverse it several
>>>>>     times and you will explode switch!   Now Mick, what do you not
>>>>>     understand??   I was just too curious to let this go by
>>>>>     without finding an answer. Just remember the Axiom, Energy
>>>>>     cannot be destroyed but it can change forms.
>>>>>
>>>>>     On 11/19/2018 10:04 AM, Mick [email protected]
>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Norm,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     So why did you first notice this even at a clients, shorted
>>>>>>     start cap or seized bearing?     Interesting I have noticed a
>>>>>>     ground rod near pool equipment with GFI but rarely have seen
>>>>>>     or can recall one next to a heat pump or AC unit and 10 feet
>>>>>>     ground rod damn that's deeper than a dirt nap.  At 60hz the
>>>>>>     capacitive coupling is negligible.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Unless I am misunderstanding something the L1-L2 at the
>>>>>>     supply side... coupling to earth would still be at the
>>>>>>     transformer to center tap neutral back at the pole then the
>>>>>>     neutral is ground bonded at the service. Since it is on the
>>>>>>     sink side of the transformer from the utility there is a
>>>>>>     direct path to ground through a certain impedance,reactance
>>>>>>     and reluctance whatever importance that plays into the event.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     On 11/19/2018 4:44 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected]
>>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Locked means exactly what the term expresses! No rotor
>>>>>>>     motion relative to stator!  On the early 5 Ton A/C units
>>>>>>>     they were service wired with a 3 conductor wip from service
>>>>>>>     disconnect to A/C unit! You had L-1 & L-2 230VAC (hots) and
>>>>>>>     a green earth bonding wire to motor and chasis frame. In
>>>>>>>     addition, you had a10 ft. ground stake into earth ground to
>>>>>>>     bond this outdoor installation for safety reasons.    When
>>>>>>>     over-current relay (84 amps) drops out starter contactor
>>>>>>>     there is NO GROUND PATH to discipate the charge, both
>>>>>>>     magbetic flux sayuration (Inductive power) and the two
>>>>>>>     charged capacitors in the circuit.  This energy is in an
>>>>>>>     isolated state due to insulation in the motor windings and
>>>>>>>     capacitors.   Ole will jump in here and say there is
>>>>>>>     capacitive coupling between motor frame and isolated
>>>>>>>     capacitance and magnetic flux at saturation.    I built and
>>>>>>>     did the test on this phenomenon after I saw it in real life
>>>>>>>     in a clients back yard. Easy to duplicate!  The reversible
>>>>>>>     ceiling fan trick can be done by anyone by just changing the
>>>>>>>     wiring on the reversing capacitor in-order to float neutral
>>>>>>>     while the reversing switch is in transition.  Simple!   (
>>>>>>>     BOOM)!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     On 11/18/2018 11:15 AM, Mick [email protected]
>>>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Norm,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     How did you run the motor in locked mode, by preventing the
>>>>>>>>     start cap from energizing?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     When you experimented with the energy from this motor where
>>>>>>>>     did you extract the differential, from the green wire
>>>>>>>>     running back to the service panel or another grounding rod
>>>>>>>>     and from the motor frame where the ground bonding clip
>>>>>>>>     usually is or somewhere else?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Assuming frame on your dual winding induction motor was
>>>>>>>>     isolated sink side from the stator windings by their
>>>>>>>>     insulation  as you mentioned earlier there was no neutral
>>>>>>>>     and on the source side by the center tap in the pole pig?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Not sure why I was thinking locked was synchronous mode as
>>>>>>>>     we discussed earlier the concept of Mag Transmitter is to
>>>>>>>>     saturate the core and release, or as Hector likes to say
>>>>>>>>     switch off to turn on.  Some major issues going on here,
>>>>>>>>     head on backwards.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     So impedance does opposite of a LC tank and dropped like a
>>>>>>>>     series LC hmmm...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Thanks,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Mick
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     On 11/18/2018 3:44 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected]
>>>>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     Thanks! Ole for the explanation! Rotation is required
>>>>>>>>>     inorder for counter emf to be generated. In stalled rotor
>>>>>>>>>     or locked rotor conditions, the current through the
>>>>>>>>>     windings is only limited by R = resitance. My dual winding
>>>>>>>>>     5 HP motor in locked rotor had a combined current draw of
>>>>>>>>>     84 amps @ 230VAC input. When you look at the BH curve on a
>>>>>>>>>     scope you see the magnetic flux build to saturation at
>>>>>>>>>     which point the impedance is = to Zero ( air value) with R
>>>>>>>>>     being the only limiting factor. (Ole). I used the dual
>>>>>>>>>     winding motor for it has a starting cap value of 40mfd and
>>>>>>>>>     a run cap with a value of 5 mfd, both of which are in
>>>>>>>>>     circuit when current limiting relay drops circuit open
>>>>>>>>>     yielding the Neutral Spike form ground. Magneto Electric
>>>>>>>>>     effect. For it to work, the caps and motor windings have
>>>>>>>>>     to be isolated from neutral and earth ground reference. 
>>>>>>>>>     the iron motor frame is earth bonded. Cancellation of
>>>>>>>>>     energy in isolation will create an EMP earth ground
>>>>>>>>>     response.  This goes back to Page 25 of CSN by Tesla himself.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     On 11/17/2018 5:12 PM, [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>     Locked rotor is when the rotor is prevented from
>>>>>>>>>>     rotating. This is also known as stalled rotor.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>     Synchronous speed is when the rotor follows the rotating
>>>>>>>>>>     magnetic wave(s) of the stator. In an induction motor
>>>>>>>>>>     (asynchronous motor) this means no power transmission
>>>>>>>>>>     between the rotor and the stator. The motor is then
>>>>>>>>>>     working neither as motor or generator.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>     Slip is the ratio between the rotor speed and the
>>>>>>>>>>     rotating field speed.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>     Regards
>>>>>>>>>>     Ole
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>     ---In [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]>, <mkjekyll@...>
>>>>>>>>>>     <mailto:mkjekyll@...> wrote :
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>     Norm,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>     I am slowly digesting this but I think my concept of
>>>>>>>>>>     locked rotor was/is in error.  Always thought this was
>>>>>>>>>>     when the rotor is locked to the rotational field from
>>>>>>>>>>     stator with least amount of slip, seems like I am reading
>>>>>>>>>>     now it is most amount of slip.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>     Can you provide what locked rotor means to you and any
>>>>>>>>>>     additional information of what you think may be occurring
>>>>>>>>>>     beyond the everyday accepted definition?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>     Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>     Mick
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>     On 11/16/2018 5:55 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>>>>>>>     <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         Mick, Ole, Kone etal!  I have been thinking a lot
>>>>>>>>>>>         about my Locked Rotor experiments and did a lot of
>>>>>>>>>>>         reading to come up with a fool proof Lenz free motor
>>>>>>>>>>>         / generator combination which is so easy to build
>>>>>>>>>>>         and proof test! First of all you should read what we
>>>>>>>>>>>         know as facts! See the following articles:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         https://www.motioncontroltips.com/faq-what-are-dc-shunt-motors-and-where-are-they-used/
>>>>>>>>>>>         <https://www.motioncontroltips.com/faq-what-are-dc-shunt-motors-and-where-are-they-used/>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         http://www.machineryspaces.com/direct-current-motors.html
>>>>>>>>>>>         <http://www.machineryspaces.com/direct-current-motors.html>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         https://www.quora.com/What-will-happen-if-the-back-EMF-of-a-DC-motor-vanishes
>>>>>>>>>>>         <https://www.quora.com/What-will-happen-if-the-back-EMF-of-a-DC-motor-vanishes>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-FPcKgwSzs&feature=youtu.be
>>>>>>>>>>>         <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-FPcKgwSzs&feature=youtu.be>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3TFALmHtMw&feature=youtu.be
>>>>>>>>>>>         <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3TFALmHtMw&feature=youtu.be>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         https://www.researchgate.net/post/A_DC_shunt_motor_is_running_at_light_load_what_happens_if_the_field_winding_gets_opened
>>>>>>>>>>>         <https://www.researchgate.net/post/A_DC_shunt_motor_is_running_at_light_load_what_happens_if_the_field_winding_gets_opened>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         Kone loves to play with the very powerful Neos as
>>>>>>>>>>>         found at K&G Magnetics and shown in the video of the
>>>>>>>>>>>         Ray's LENZ free generator. What I will propose is
>>>>>>>>>>>         very simple application of DC motor principles as
>>>>>>>>>>>         read from the cited references. First you make your
>>>>>>>>>>>         LENZ free  motor which is in reality a LINEAR MOTOR
>>>>>>>>>>>         (Solenoid) which will give the necessary stroke
>>>>>>>>>>>         length to drive the LINEAR generator (Coil
>>>>>>>>>>>         oscillating within the drag free, LENZ free area of
>>>>>>>>>>>         the Neo magnets). Stroke of the solenoid is
>>>>>>>>>>>         controlled by Hall sensor and IGBT drive switch to
>>>>>>>>>>>         give an excursion rate (stroke) at a frequency of 60
>>>>>>>>>>>         HZ. By using a DC pulse  to drive the solenoid coil
>>>>>>>>>>>         it is tricked into being in LOCKED ROTOR condition,
>>>>>>>>>>>         thus no LENZ effect.  Has the light come on yet??  
>>>>>>>>>>>         We know that Ray's generator puts out a sine wave
>>>>>>>>>>>         output (AC) with no LENZ drag. Following the DC
>>>>>>>>>>>         motor principles as applied to the solenoid driver,
>>>>>>>>>>>         you have a motor that is LENZ free also. The combo
>>>>>>>>>>>         should give an Over-unity output. Now the tricky
>>>>>>>>>>>         part!  We know as Ole will agree in that when you
>>>>>>>>>>>         switch the solenoid power to off state as magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>         flux is building toward saturation there will be a
>>>>>>>>>>>         huge voltage spike (Neutral Spike) which we have to
>>>>>>>>>>>         capture and not send to ground as ordinary practice
>>>>>>>>>>>         in solid state switch design (snubber diodes)  The
>>>>>>>>>>>         capture of the SPIKE energy (HV) which occurs
>>>>>>>>>>>         naturally will be the over-unity factor here!
>>>>>>>>>>>         Interesting concept! Think about it!  Norm Mick!
>>>>>>>>>>>         (accumulator HV caps)!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         On 11/16/2018 6:23 AM, Mick mkjekyll@...
>>>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:mkjekyll@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         Ole,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         I have had caps charge much faster in an LC tank
>>>>>>>>>>>>         than otherwise, but it could also have to do with
>>>>>>>>>>>>         noise in the core material as I was no using an air
>>>>>>>>>>>>         inductor.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         On 11/16/2018 1:19 AM, onielsen@...
>>>>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:onielsen@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Hi Mick,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         "If a reactive LC tank capacitor is then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         disconnected from the reactive source then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         discharged to a resistive load then reconnected
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         energized back to the standing wave modality
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         recharged disconnected discharged etc.  If the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         reactive energy is harvested in this manner are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         you claiming the same losses will occur as power
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         factor correcting the reactive back into real power?"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Yes that's correct.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Common power factor correction in AC is for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         eliminating the reactive power that doesn't do any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         work but just heats the wires between the power
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         plant and the reactive load. This is expensive for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         the owners of the power transmission lines and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         thus should be avoided. First storing the energy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         in a capacitor (or inductor or battery) and then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         dumping it to an active load will still make the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         power go in just one direction even though it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         happens in pulses. The energy is then moving from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         the source to the load. Reactive power has the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         energy moving to and from the load and power
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         source. The power moving between the capacitor and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         inductor in an LC-tank is pure reactive except for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         the loss because of the parasitic resistance in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         the components and wires.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Ole
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         ---In [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]>, <mkjekyll@...>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:mkjekyll@...> wrote :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Ole,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Disregarding the issue at hand with the patent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         terminology and not concerning ourselves with the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         patent just a very high Q tank.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         If a reactive LC tank capacitor is then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         disconnected from the reactive source then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         discharged to a resistive load then reconnected
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         energized back to the standing wave modality
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         recharged disconnected discharged etc.  If the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         reactive energy is harvested in this manner are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         you claiming the same losses will occur as power
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         factor correcting the reactive back into real power?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         On 11/15/2018 5:36 PM, onielsen@...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:onielsen@...> [EVGRAY] wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             I have only read to the following paragraph
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             cited below. I wonder if the applicant knows
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             about what he is writing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Citing paragraph 106 of the patent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             application
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             (https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/53/7d/29/f7b4bd0194992d/US20070296373A1.pdf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             <https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/53/7d/29/f7b4bd0194992d/US20070296373A1.pdf>):
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             "[0106] There is voltage across the inductor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             connected in series to the capacitor and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             there is voltage across the inductor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             connected in parallel to the capacitor. Since
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Power=voltage×current, a single power input
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             produces two branches of electromagnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             power output, increasing the power output. In
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             the alternative, the present disclosure may
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             have one electromagnetic power output with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             less energy input."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             It isn't as simple as this. If using an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             oscilloscope for measuring the current and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             voltage it will show some phase displacement
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             between the current and voltage which means
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             reactive power. Look at the following small
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             videos to see how one can be misled if not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             knowing how the phase between the current and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>

Hi Norm,

This is correct.   As you're proclaiming, in the end a magneto type
build may be a better solution than just hard switched coil banging as
it does seem to favor finesse over force allowing for more control with
fewer supporting parts.  First in order to study this more in depth I
have to make sure my batt system is properly saturating the iron core to
create the pure current potential vacuum flux state.  Seems easier from
the wall for some reason even though there should be no diff in a DC
charged cap of the same mFd charged to the same V in the same time
constant delivering a spike to saturate a core.  Will stop trying to
correlate the wall power diff and move forward.

That link has some interesting devices such as the vircator and some
good stuff on the pinch devices.   It definitely conveys the concept of
total isolation and screw the source.

On another subject, your electrostatic device induced me to think of a
motorized variometer and what odd functions it may allow for.

When experimenting with your spinning variable cap what results did you
witness?

Thanks,

Mick


On 11/21/23:46 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> Mick!  I see now that you are attempting to get a SOURCE that is
> isolated so that you may be able to sustain the EMP pulse event. 
> Battery/ inverter set up.  If you use the EMP non nuclear device as an
> example you see that it is a one shot device since the long solenoid
> coil is progressively shorted by ultra high speed explosives while
> super saturated via capacitor discharge. See:
> https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/f20b/94c86b9620166bdb82556b5be93261c80c64.pdf      
> All with device in total isolation from earth reference ground.
> Believe it or not, Tesla advocated this technique when he discussed
> taking pure iron into a state of super saturation (coil core) which
> Ole will attest to that the impedance drops to an air value.  Doug was
> hitting on this with his coil shorting routine.  The Hyde Generator
> was a variable capacitor machine and this is a variable inductance
> device.  Please read how the current is amplified in the MFCG.    In
> the Hyde generator, when the value of C is reduced there is a
> multiplication of the voltage (amplification). In the MFCG, when the
> value of L is taken to zero in a saturated state the current is
> multiplied (Amplification).   Thanks for you effort!   You will get
> there when armed with knowledge as to how this all works!   Norm
>
> On 11/20/2018 7:23 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>  
>>
>> Norm,
>>
>> OK thanks back to the bench, need to check BH on the battery setup
>> again...
>>
>>
>> On 11/20/2018 3:01 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>  
>>>
>>> I see that you still have not had your LIGHT COME ON YET.  You are
>>> dwelling on the source side of the circuit which is not the answer. 
>>> Simply put, you have to create the condition where you have a
>>> totally isolated charged inductor and charged capacitors (TOTALLY
>>> ISOLATED) from any ground reference.  Energy simply cannot vanish
>>> into empty space.   My 5 HP motor experiment accomplished the
>>> isolation condition and when the energy was annihilated, inductor
>>> energy & capacitor energy cancelled , I got the EMP response from
>>> the earth side of the circuit.  To hell with the source, for once
>>> the inductor is flux loaded, to saturation and capacitors are
>>> charged, then the source is totally out of the equation. Once that
>>> starting contactor opens the source is no longer a factor.  In all
>>> of my trials with this, I have never seen any degrading or rupture
>>> of dielectric material nor damage to any wiring, no matter how
>>> small. The energy is in the form of a very high freq (RF event) with
>>> very high current but no damage to small appliance motors.  I lived
>>> in a Dallas neighborhood that had a power distribution sub station
>>> just down the street from me. Numerous times during lightning storms
>>> I had been awakened by my VHS VCR, old top loader, (turned off) tape
>>> mechanism start up and start to eject tape, get half way and reverse
>>> and put tape back down as before it started. Like a 1/2 cycle
>>> operation.  This was sort of the same EMP neutral side surge which
>>> affected the tape drive mechanism.  People see the sort of thing but
>>> are not smart enough to question why they happen!      Sorry to say
>>> that most of my experimentation was done on the KEELY BBS and was a
>>> closed group.
>>>
>>> On 11/20/2018 11:33 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> Norm,
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for the in depth post of your experience uncovering this
>>>> event.  Sorry to frustrate you with what seem like repetitive
>>>> questions. Everything here is understood.  My question had to do
>>>> with the source side of the whole systemic occurrence and not that
>>>> I don't understand just that I like things to be very succinct in
>>>> my small brain, therefore I was trying to map out the circuit
>>>> including all E and B field connections in order that for instance
>>>> the ceiling fan experiment be replicated from a battery inverter
>>>> source without connection to the utility.  In other words the DUH I
>>>> brought up the other week.  You have explained the phenomenon and
>>>> it's creation many times but seem to have left out the functions
>>>> from the source side of the circuit and how that interacts with the
>>>> whole experiment and magnetic connect-anniliation-reconnect.
>>>>
>>>> I have successfully replicated the shots to larger and smaller
>>>> scale while using the utility sourced power but not yet reliably
>>>> from an inverter driven isolated system so attempting to determine
>>>> the best way to move forward on the source side without burning up
>>>> any more devices or at least a minimum so.  I think I need to
>>>> procure an iso transformer with a center tap and ground it on the
>>>> sink side to the center tap in order there is the magnetic
>>>> connection to the earth on source side in the first place not just
>>>> the ground rod on the sink side of the experiment.  Otherwise part
>>>> two will require a giant stepdown of similar proportions to a pole
>>>> pig.  Just trying to streamline and keep expenses low.
>>>>
>>>> I hope the above does not further frustrate you but rather conveys
>>>> the why of my question which I can see seemed to be circular and
>>>> puerile. Sorry to offend.
>>>>
>>>> By the way I don't know if you had posted this story before but
>>>> with Yahoo and search and all your references to the neutral spike
>>>> event I have never uncovered it.
>>>>
>>>> Thank again!
>>>>
>>>> On 11/20/2018 6:58 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>> Mick!  I am getting just like Hector here by having to explain
>>>>> something over and over!  I guess short memory is the cause for
>>>>> lack of understanding the whole project.   First you have to go
>>>>> back to the 1981 ceiling fan, 1/6th HP capacitor run shaded pole
>>>>> motor problem. A wiring error by a Chinese assembly worker
>>>>> incorrectly wired the capacitor reversing switch into the neutral
>>>>> side of the circuit which provided a total isolation of charge
>>>>> while the switch was in transition from forward operation  to
>>>>> reverse operation. Reversing switch would explode.  This was my
>>>>> first encounter with the phenomenon which I researched and
>>>>> determined that it was a Magneto-Electric effect or better put,
>>>>> Magnetic flux annihilation-reconnect as we now know it. In Physics
>>>>> we have always been taught that energy cannot be destroyed but can
>>>>> change forms as we clearly see by simple experiment. With this
>>>>> knowledge tucked back in the memory bank, I had the occasion to
>>>>> encounter this phenomenon again in around 1984. A wealthy widow
>>>>> had remodeled her expansive Highland Park home (Dallas) and I had
>>>>> installed a projection TV system into her den.   MS. Sharp called
>>>>> and said  she had a Poltergeist in her den. When I arrived she
>>>>> served tea and told me to sit there and wait a few minutes.  The
>>>>> TV screen and projector both started descending from the ceiling
>>>>> then reversed and went back up.  Both these motors were shaded
>>>>> pole, capacitor run design so that switching via wall switch could
>>>>> reverse operation, either up or down against limit switches. Here
>>>>> is the Somfy motor example so you understand how they operate: 
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMHEJ2iIu14&feature=youtu.be     
>>>>> When I went into attic to examine the motorized units the
>>>>> phenomenon occurred again. Sure enough the screen and projector
>>>>> descended half way down then reversed and retracted. Over my head
>>>>> was a powered turbo ventilator attic fan of shaded pole design
>>>>> which took off ZIIIIINNNNG , super fast acceleration up to a speed
>>>>> about 10X design speed but one big problem was that it took off
>>>>> backwards! The turbine took several minutes to coast down to a
>>>>> stop.  A visit downstairs found that a small appliance like a
>>>>> counter top blender in the kitchen (shaded pole motor) would take
>>>>> off spinning backwards then stop.  The only connection that all
>>>>> these motor had when sitting in a turned off state was a
>>>>> connection to the neutral buss.   Interesting fact was that with
>>>>> the very small size motor windings and sudden fantastic
>>>>> acceleration up to very high speed (backwards) did no damage to
>>>>> the motors. I did an inspection to the mains breakers and house
>>>>> wiring including the service cabelling and earth ground at the
>>>>> mains panel. All was up to Dallas Code. While walking in side
>>>>> yard, I found a brand new installation of a 5 ton A/C Condensing
>>>>> unit. in addition to the older 5 ton unit. Both units were earth
>>>>> bonded via the Required (Highland Park Code) 10 ft. ground rod at
>>>>> the units.  Both units were 5  Ton, 230VAC single phase.   While I
>>>>> was looking at the A/C units , the new one tried to start against
>>>>> a locked rotor condition.  From contactor closure to WHUUUUUMP,
>>>>> EMP shot which you could feel the brissance in the ground took
>>>>> about 1/2 second.  This was the source of the EMP event which
>>>>> caused the neutral buss to carry this very unusual form of
>>>>> energy.  The A/C guys came out and replaced the compressor and
>>>>> rectified the situation but I came away with a better
>>>>> understanding a very common phenomenon that most do not take time
>>>>> to fully understand nor appreciate the implications.   By studing
>>>>> the ongoing research of the natural occurrence of this EMP
>>>>> phenomenon from Solar magnetic storms Magnetic Annihilation
>>>>> -Reconnect which have been duplicated in Labs gathering better
>>>>> understanding of phenomenon. I elected to bench top duplicate the
>>>>> situation which I had observed back in 1984 at the Sharp
>>>>> residence.  Since I was doing HVAC, Electrical and Electronics
>>>>> Contracting, I had many compressors at my disposal just like the
>>>>> one in the Carrier A/C unit.    By hydraulic locking the
>>>>> compressor via filling with oil and pinching off the suction and
>>>>> discharge lines you have a fully locked up sealed unit See:
>>>>>
>>>>> This unit utilizes a 40mfd start cap and a 5mfd run cap controlled
>>>>> by current relay.  When energized via 2 pole,230VAC, starter
>>>>> contactor, both the start and run windings are energized. When the
>>>>> Over current relay senses the locked rotor current of 84 amps (
>>>>> motor in magnetic saturation) the circuit is opened leaving the
>>>>> stored energy in total isolation with no ground reference.  A
>>>>> NECESSARY CONDITION TO GET THE MAGNETIC FLUX
>>>>> ANNIHILATION-Re-CONNECT PHENOMENON or EMP.     This experiment is
>>>>> something anyone can duplicate and observe the phenomenon for
>>>>> yourself.  The reversible ceiling fan is the simplest and easiest
>>>>> and less expensive to replicate. Most current available reversible
>>>>> fans utilize the electrical capacitor relocation via toggle switch
>>>>> to reverse rotation.  All you have to do is open up circuit and
>>>>> re-wire the cap so that you have a momentary loss of ground
>>>>> reference (neutral) while the reversing switch is in transit.
>>>>> Reverse it several times and you will explode switch!   Now Mick,
>>>>> what do you not understand??   I was just too curious to let this
>>>>> go by without finding an answer.   Just remember the Axiom, Energy
>>>>> cannot be destroyed but it can change forms.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/19/2018 10:04 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Norm,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So why did you first notice this even at a clients, shorted start
>>>>>> cap or seized bearing?     Interesting I have noticed a ground
>>>>>> rod near pool equipment with GFI but rarely have seen or can
>>>>>> recall one next to a heat pump or AC unit and 10 feet ground rod
>>>>>> damn that's deeper than a dirt nap.  At 60hz the capacitive
>>>>>> coupling is negligible.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Unless I am misunderstanding something the L1-L2 at the supply
>>>>>> side... coupling to earth would still be at the transformer to
>>>>>> center tap neutral back at the pole then the neutral is ground
>>>>>> bonded at the service.  Since it is on the sink side of the
>>>>>> transformer from the utility there is a direct path to ground
>>>>>> through a certain impedance,reactance and reluctance whatever
>>>>>> importance that plays into the event.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/19/2018 4:44 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Locked means exactly what the term expresses! No rotor motion
>>>>>>> relative to stator!  On the early 5 Ton A/C units they were
>>>>>>> service wired with a 3 conductor wip from service disconnect to
>>>>>>> A/C unit! You had L-1 & L-2 230VAC (hots) and a green earth
>>>>>>> bonding wire to motor and chasis frame. In addition, you had a10
>>>>>>> ft. ground stake into earth ground to bond this outdoor
>>>>>>> installation for safety reasons.    When over-current relay (84
>>>>>>> amps) drops out starter contactor there is NO GROUND PATH to
>>>>>>> discipate the charge, both magbetic flux sayuration (Inductive
>>>>>>> power) and the two charged capacitors in the circuit.  This
>>>>>>> energy is in an isolated state due to insulation in the motor
>>>>>>> windings and capacitors.   Ole will jump in here and say there
>>>>>>> is capacitive coupling between motor frame and isolated
>>>>>>> capacitance and magnetic flux at saturation.    I built and did
>>>>>>> the test on this phenomenon after I saw it in real life in a
>>>>>>> clients back yard.  Easy to duplicate!  The reversible ceiling
>>>>>>> fan trick can be done by anyone by just changing the wiring on
>>>>>>> the reversing capacitor in-order to float neutral while the
>>>>>>> reversing switch is in transition.  Simple!   ( BOOM)!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11/18/2018 11:15 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Norm,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How did you run the motor in locked mode, by preventing the
>>>>>>>> start cap from energizing?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When you experimented with the energy from this motor where did
>>>>>>>> you extract the differential, from the green wire running back
>>>>>>>> to the service panel or another grounding rod and from the
>>>>>>>> motor frame where the ground bonding clip usually is or
>>>>>>>> somewhere else? 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Assuming frame on your dual winding induction motor was
>>>>>>>> isolated sink side from the stator windings by their
>>>>>>>> insulation  as you mentioned earlier there was no neutral and
>>>>>>>> on the source side by the center tap in the pole pig?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not sure why I was thinking locked was synchronous mode as we
>>>>>>>> discussed earlier the concept of Mag Transmitter is to saturate
>>>>>>>> the core and release, or as Hector likes to say switch off to
>>>>>>>> turn on.  Some major issues going on here, head on backwards.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So impedance does opposite of a LC tank and dropped like a
>>>>>>>> series LC hmmm...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mick
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 11/18/2018 3:44 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks! Ole for the explanation!  Rotation is required inorder
>>>>>>>>> for counter emf to be generated. In stalled rotor or locked
>>>>>>>>> rotor conditions, the current through the windings is only
>>>>>>>>> limited by R = resitance. My dual winding 5 HP motor in locked
>>>>>>>>> rotor had a combined current draw of 84 amps @ 230VAC input.
>>>>>>>>> When you look at the BH curve on a scope you see the magnetic
>>>>>>>>> flux build to saturation at which point the impedance is = to
>>>>>>>>> Zero ( air value) with R being the only limiting factor.
>>>>>>>>> (Ole). I used the dual winding motor for it has a starting cap
>>>>>>>>> value of 40mfd and a run cap with a value of 5 mfd, both of
>>>>>>>>> which are in circuit when current limiting relay drops circuit
>>>>>>>>> open yielding the Neutral Spike form ground.   Magneto
>>>>>>>>> Electric effect. For it to work, the caps and motor windings
>>>>>>>>> have to be isolated from neutral and earth ground reference. 
>>>>>>>>> the iron motor frame is earth bonded. Cancellation of energy
>>>>>>>>> in isolation will create an EMP earth ground response.  This
>>>>>>>>> goes back to Page 25 of CSN by Tesla himself.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 11/17/2018 5:12 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Locked rotor is when the rotor is prevented from rotating.
>>>>>>>>>> This is also known as stalled rotor.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Synchronous speed is when the rotor follows the rotating
>>>>>>>>>> magnetic wave(s) of the stator. In an induction motor
>>>>>>>>>> (asynchronous motor) this means no power transmission between
>>>>>>>>>> the rotor and the stator. The motor is then working neither
>>>>>>>>>> as motor or generator.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Slip is the ratio between the rotor speed and the rotating
>>>>>>>>>> field speed.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>> Ole
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ---In [email protected], <mkjekyll@...> wrote :
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Norm,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I am slowly digesting this but I think my concept of locked
>>>>>>>>>> rotor was/is in error.  Always thought this was when the
>>>>>>>>>> rotor is locked to the rotational field from stator with
>>>>>>>>>> least amount of slip, seems like I am reading now it is most
>>>>>>>>>> amount of slip.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Can you provide what locked rotor means to you and any
>>>>>>>>>> additional information of what you think may be occurring
>>>>>>>>>> beyond the everyday accepted definition?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Mick
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2018 5:55 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>     Mick, Ole, Kone etal!  I have been thinking a lot about
>>>>>>>>>>>     my Locked Rotor experiments and did a lot of reading to
>>>>>>>>>>>     come up with a fool proof Lenz free motor / generator
>>>>>>>>>>>     combination which is so easy to build and proof test!
>>>>>>>>>>>     First of all you should read what we know as facts! See
>>>>>>>>>>>     the following articles:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>     https://www.motioncontroltips.com/faq-what-are-dc-shunt-motors-and-where-are-they-used/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>     http://www.machineryspaces.com/direct-current-motors.html
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>     https://www.quora.com/What-will-happen-if-the-back-EMF-of-a-DC-motor-vanishes
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-FPcKgwSzs&feature=youtu.be
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3TFALmHtMw&feature=youtu.be
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>     https://www.researchgate.net/post/A_DC_shunt_motor_is_running_at_light_load_what_happens_if_the_field_winding_gets_opened
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>     Kone loves to play with the very powerful Neos as found
>>>>>>>>>>>     at K&G Magnetics and shown in the video of the Ray's
>>>>>>>>>>>     LENZ free generator.  What I will propose is very simple
>>>>>>>>>>>     application of DC motor principles as read from the
>>>>>>>>>>>     cited references. First you make your LENZ free  motor
>>>>>>>>>>>     which is in reality a LINEAR MOTOR (Solenoid) which will
>>>>>>>>>>>     give the necessary stroke length to drive the LINEAR
>>>>>>>>>>>     generator (Coil oscillating within the drag free, LENZ
>>>>>>>>>>>     free area of the Neo magnets).   Stroke of the solenoid
>>>>>>>>>>>     is controlled by Hall sensor and IGBT drive switch to
>>>>>>>>>>>     give an excursion rate (stroke) at a frequency of 60 HZ.
>>>>>>>>>>>     By using a DC pulse  to drive the solenoid coil it is
>>>>>>>>>>>     tricked into being in LOCKED ROTOR condition, thus no
>>>>>>>>>>>     LENZ effect.  Has the light come on yet??   We know that
>>>>>>>>>>>     Ray's generator puts out a sine wave output (AC) with no
>>>>>>>>>>>     LENZ drag.  Following the DC motor principles as applied
>>>>>>>>>>>     to the solenoid driver, you have a motor that is LENZ
>>>>>>>>>>>     free also.  The combo should give an Over-unity output.
>>>>>>>>>>>     Now the tricky part!  We know as Ole will agree in that
>>>>>>>>>>>     when you switch the solenoid power to off state as
>>>>>>>>>>>     magnetic flux is building toward saturation there will
>>>>>>>>>>>     be a huge voltage spike (Neutral Spike) which we have to
>>>>>>>>>>>     capture and not send to ground as ordinary practice in
>>>>>>>>>>>     solid state switch design (snubber diodes)  The capture
>>>>>>>>>>>     of the SPIKE energy (HV) which occurs naturally will be
>>>>>>>>>>>     the over-unity factor here!  Interesting concept!  Think
>>>>>>>>>>>     about it!  Norm    Mick! (accumulator HV caps)!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>     On 11/16/2018 6:23 AM, Mick mkjekyll@...
>>>>>>>>>>>     <mailto:mkjekyll@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>     Ole,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>     I have had caps charge much faster in an LC tank than
>>>>>>>>>>>>     otherwise, but it could also have to do with noise in
>>>>>>>>>>>>     the core material as I was no using an air inductor.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>     On 11/16/2018 1:19 AM, onielsen@...
>>>>>>>>>>>>     <mailto:onielsen@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Hi Mick,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     "If a reactive LC tank capacitor is then disconnected
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     from the reactive source then discharged to a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     resistive load then reconnected energized back to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     standing wave modality recharged disconnected
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     discharged etc.  If the reactive energy is harvested
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     in this manner are you claiming the same losses will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     occur as power factor correcting the reactive back
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     into real power?"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Yes that's correct.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Common power factor correction in AC is for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     eliminating the reactive power that doesn't do any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     work but just heats the wires between the power plant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     and the reactive load. This is expensive for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     owners of the power transmission lines and thus should
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     be avoided. First storing the energy in a capacitor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     (or inductor or battery) and then dumping it to an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     active load will still make the power go in just one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     direction even though it happens in pulses. The energy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     is then moving from the source to the load. Reactive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     power has the energy moving to and from the load and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     power source. The power moving between the capacitor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     and inductor in an LC-tank is pure reactive except for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     the loss because of the parasitic resistance in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     components and wires.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Ole
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     ---In [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]>, <mkjekyll@...>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     <mailto:mkjekyll@...> wrote :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Ole,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Disregarding the issue at hand with the patent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     terminology and not concerning ourselves with the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     patent just a very high Q tank.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     If a reactive LC tank capacitor is then disconnected
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     from the reactive source then discharged to a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     resistive load then reconnected energized back to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     standing wave modality recharged disconnected
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     discharged etc.  If the reactive energy is harvested
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     in this manner are you claiming the same losses will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     occur as power factor correcting the reactive back
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     into real power?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     On 11/15/2018 5:36 PM, onielsen@...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     <mailto:onielsen@...> [EVGRAY] wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         I have only read to the following paragraph cited
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         below. I wonder if the applicant knows about what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         he is writing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Citing paragraph 106 of the patent application
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         (https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/53/7d/29/f7b4bd0194992d/US20070296373A1.pdf):
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         "[0106] There is voltage across the inductor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         connected in series to the capacitor and there is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         voltage across the inductor connected in parallel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         to the capacitor. Since Power=voltage×current, a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         single power input produces two branches of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         electromagnetic power output, increasing the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         power output. In the alternative, the present
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         disclosure may have one electromagnetic power
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         output with less energy input."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         It isn't as simple as this. If using an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         oscilloscope for measuring the current and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         voltage it will show some phase displacement
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         between the current and voltage which means
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         reactive power. Look at the following small
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         videos to see how one can be misled if not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         knowing how the phase between the current and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         voltage is: Only the the resistive part consumes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         (transforms) energy like R in figure 8.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         0:42
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJEZMCCBV3U>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               Overunity Device Cop 2,5 ? explanation part
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               3.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJEZMCCBV3U>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         9.5K views5 years ago
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         1:01
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jamj3-2w0eE>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               Overunity Device Cop 2,5 ? explanation part
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               2.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jamj3-2w0eE>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         10K views5 years ago
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>

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On 11/21/2018 12:43 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Hi Norm,
>
> This is correct.   As you're proclaiming, in the end a magneto type 
> build may be a better solution than just hard switched coil banging as 
> it does seem to favor finesse over force allowing for more control 
> with fewer supporting parts.  First in order to study this more in 
> depth I have to make sure my batt system is properly saturating the 
> iron core to create the pure current potential vacuum flux state.  
> Seems easier from the wall for some reason even though there should be 
> no diff in a DC charged cap of the same mFd charged to the same V in 
> the same time constant delivering a spike to saturate a core.  Will 
> stop trying to correlate the wall power diff and move forward.
>
> That link has some interesting devices such as the vircator and some 
> good stuff on the pinch devices.   It definitely conveys the concept 
> of total isolation and screw the source.
>
> On another subject, your electrostatic device induced me to think of a 
> motorized variometer and what odd functions it may allow for.
>
> When experimenting with your spinning variable cap what results did 
> you witness?  ( Due to the rapid change in capacitance value you could 
> realize by use of diodes to get a multiplication of potential at 
> output which was steered to accumulator capacitors just like Kone is 
> trying to do. I proved to me that the effect is real which is what Ole 
> and crew are discussing It was the basis for the Hyde Device as seen 
> on Rex Research page.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mick
>
>
> On 11/21/23:46 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>> Mick!  I see now that you are attempting to get a SOURCE that is 
>> isolated so that you may be able to sustain the EMP pulse event.  
>> Battery/ inverter set up.  If you use the EMP non nuclear device as 
>> an example you see that it is a one shot device since the long 
>> solenoid coil is progressively shorted by ultra high speed explosives 
>> while super saturated via capacitor discharge. See: 
>> https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/f20b/94c86b9620166bdb82556b5be93261c80c64.pdf 
>> All with device in total isolation from earth reference ground. 
>> Believe it or not, Tesla advocated this technique when he discussed 
>> taking pure iron into a state of super saturation (coil core) which 
>> Ole will attest to that the impedance drops to an air value. Doug was 
>> hitting on this with his coil shorting routine.  The Hyde Generator 
>> was a variable capacitor machine and this is a variable inductance 
>> device. Please read how the current is amplified in the MFCG.    In 
>> the Hyde generator, when the value of C is reduced there is a 
>> multiplication of the voltage (amplification). In the MFCG, when the 
>> value of L is taken to zero in a saturated state the current is 
>> multiplied (Amplification).   Thanks for you effort! You will get 
>> there when armed with knowledge as to how this all works!   Norm
>>
>> On 11/20/2018 7:23 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>> Norm,
>>>
>>> OK thanks back to the bench, need to check BH on the battery setup 
>>> again...
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/20/2018 3:01 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I see that you still have not had your LIGHT COME ON YET.  You are 
>>>> dwelling on the source side of the circuit which is not the answer. 
>>>> Simply put, you have to create the condition where you have a 
>>>> totally isolated charged inductor and charged capacitors (TOTALLY 
>>>> ISOLATED) from any ground reference.  Energy simply cannot vanish 
>>>> into empty space.   My 5 HP motor experiment accomplished the 
>>>> isolation condition and when the energy was annihilated, inductor 
>>>> energy & capacitor energy cancelled , I got the EMP response from 
>>>> the earth side of the circuit.  To hell with the source, for once 
>>>> the inductor is flux loaded, to saturation and capacitors are 
>>>> charged, then the source is totally out of the equation. Once that 
>>>> starting contactor opens the source is no longer a factor.  In all 
>>>> of my trials with this, I have never seen any degrading or rupture 
>>>> of dielectric material nor damage to any wiring, no matter how 
>>>> small. The energy is in the form of a very high freq (RF event) 
>>>> with very high current but no damage to small appliance motors.  I 
>>>> lived in a Dallas neighborhood that had a power distribution sub 
>>>> station just down the street from me. Numerous times during 
>>>> lightning storms I had been awakened by my VHS VCR, old top loader, 
>>>> (turned off) tape mechanism start up and start to eject tape, get 
>>>> half way and reverse and put tape back down as before it started. 
>>>> Like a 1/2 cycle operation.  This was sort of the same EMP neutral 
>>>> side surge which affected the tape drive mechanism.  People see the 
>>>> sort of thing but are not smart enough to question why they 
>>>> happen!      Sorry to say that most of my experimentation was done 
>>>> on the KEELY BBS and was a closed group.
>>>>
>>>> On 11/20/2018 11:33 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Norm,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for the in depth post of your experience uncovering this 
>>>>> event.  Sorry to frustrate you with what seem like repetitive 
>>>>> questions. Everything here is understood.  My question had to do 
>>>>> with the source side of the whole systemic occurrence and not that 
>>>>> I don't understand just that I like things to be very succinct in 
>>>>> my small brain, therefore I was trying to map out the circuit 
>>>>> including all E and B field connections in order that for instance 
>>>>> the ceiling fan experiment be replicated from a battery inverter 
>>>>> source without connection to the utility.  In other words the DUH 
>>>>> I brought up the other week.  You have explained the phenomenon 
>>>>> and it's creation many times but seem to have left out the 
>>>>> functions from the source side of the circuit and how that 
>>>>> interacts with the whole experiment and magnetic 
>>>>> connect-anniliation-reconnect.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have successfully replicated the shots to larger and smaller 
>>>>> scale while using the utility sourced power but not yet reliably 
>>>>> from an inverter driven isolated system so attempting to determine 
>>>>> the best way to move forward on the source side without burning up 
>>>>> any more devices or at least a minimum so.  I think I need to 
>>>>> procure an iso transformer with a center tap and ground it on the 
>>>>> sink side to the center tap in order there is the magnetic 
>>>>> connection to the earth on source side in the first place not just 
>>>>> the ground rod on the sink side of the experiment. Otherwise part 
>>>>> two will require a giant stepdown of similar proportions to a pole 
>>>>> pig.  Just trying to streamline and keep expenses low.
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope the above does not further frustrate you but rather conveys 
>>>>> the why of my question which I can see seemed to be circular and 
>>>>> puerile. Sorry to offend.
>>>>>
>>>>> By the way I don't know if you had posted this story before but 
>>>>> with Yahoo and search and all your references to the neutral spike 
>>>>> event I have never uncovered it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank again!
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/20/2018 6:58 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mick!  I am getting just like Hector here by having to explain 
>>>>>> something over and over!  I guess short memory is the cause for 
>>>>>> lack of understanding the whole project.   First you have to go 
>>>>>> back to the 1981 ceiling fan, 1/6th HP capacitor run shaded pole 
>>>>>> motor problem. A wiring error by a Chinese assembly worker 
>>>>>> incorrectly wired the capacitor reversing switch into the neutral 
>>>>>> side of the circuit which provided a total isolation of charge 
>>>>>> while the switch was in transition from forward operation  to 
>>>>>> reverse operation. Reversing switch would explode.  This was my 
>>>>>> first encounter with the phenomenon which I researched and 
>>>>>> determined that it was a Magneto-Electric effect or better put, 
>>>>>> Magnetic flux annihilation-reconnect as we now know it. In 
>>>>>> Physics we have always been taught that energy cannot be 
>>>>>> destroyed but can change forms as we clearly see by simple 
>>>>>> experiment. With this knowledge tucked back in the memory bank, I 
>>>>>> had the occasion to encounter this phenomenon again in around 
>>>>>> 1984. A wealthy widow had remodeled her expansive Highland Park 
>>>>>> home (Dallas) and I had installed a projection TV system into her 
>>>>>> den. MS. Sharp called and said  she had a Poltergeist in her den. 
>>>>>> When I arrived she served tea and told me to sit there and wait a 
>>>>>> few minutes.  The TV screen and projector both started descending 
>>>>>> from the ceiling then reversed and went back up.  Both these 
>>>>>> motors were shaded pole, capacitor run design so that switching 
>>>>>> via wall switch could reverse operation, either up or down 
>>>>>> against limit switches. Here is the Somfy motor example so you 
>>>>>> understand how they operate: 
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMHEJ2iIu14&feature=youtu.be When 
>>>>>> I went into attic to examine the motorized units the phenomenon 
>>>>>> occurred again. Sure enough the screen and projector descended 
>>>>>> half way down then reversed and retracted. Over my head was a 
>>>>>> powered turbo ventilator attic fan of shaded pole design which 
>>>>>> took off ZIIIIINNNNG , super fast acceleration up to a speed 
>>>>>> about 10X design speed but one big problem was that it took off 
>>>>>> backwards! The turbine took several minutes to coast down to a 
>>>>>> stop.  A visit downstairs found that a small appliance like a 
>>>>>> counter top blender in the kitchen (shaded pole motor) would take 
>>>>>> off spinning backwards then stop.  The only connection that all 
>>>>>> these motor had when sitting in a turned off state was a 
>>>>>> connection to the neutral buss.   Interesting fact was that with 
>>>>>> the very small size motor windings and sudden fantastic 
>>>>>> acceleration up to very high speed (backwards) did no damage to 
>>>>>> the motors. I did an inspection to the mains breakers and house 
>>>>>> wiring including the service cabelling and earth ground at the 
>>>>>> mains panel. All was up to Dallas Code. While walking in side 
>>>>>> yard, I found a brand new installation of a 5 ton A/C Condensing 
>>>>>> unit. in addition to the older 5 ton unit. Both units were earth 
>>>>>> bonded via the Required (Highland Park Code) 10 ft. ground rod at 
>>>>>> the units.  Both units were 5  Ton, 230VAC single phase.   While 
>>>>>> I was looking at the A/C units , the new one tried to start 
>>>>>> against a locked rotor condition.  From contactor closure to 
>>>>>> WHUUUUUMP, EMP shot which you could feel the brissance in the 
>>>>>> ground took about 1/2 second.  This was the source of the EMP 
>>>>>> event which caused the neutral buss to carry this very unusual 
>>>>>> form of energy.  The A/C guys came out and replaced the 
>>>>>> compressor and rectified the situation but I came away with a 
>>>>>> better understanding a very common phenomenon that most do not 
>>>>>> take time to fully understand nor appreciate the implications.   
>>>>>> By studing the ongoing research of the natural occurrence of this 
>>>>>> EMP phenomenon from Solar magnetic storms Magnetic Annihilation 
>>>>>> -Reconnect which have been duplicated in Labs gathering better 
>>>>>> understanding of phenomenon. I elected to bench top duplicate the 
>>>>>> situation which I had observed back in 1984 at the Sharp 
>>>>>> residence.  Since I was doing HVAC, Electrical and Electronics 
>>>>>> Contracting, I had many compressors at my disposal just like the 
>>>>>> one in the Carrier A/C unit.    By hydraulic locking the 
>>>>>> compressor via filling with oil and pinching off the suction and 
>>>>>> discharge lines you have a fully locked up sealed unit See:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This unit utilizes a 40mfd start cap and a 5mfd run cap 
>>>>>> controlled by current relay.  When energized via 2 pole,230VAC, 
>>>>>> starter contactor, both the start and run windings are energized. 
>>>>>> When the Over current relay senses the locked rotor current of 84 
>>>>>> amps ( motor in magnetic saturation) the circuit is opened 
>>>>>> leaving the stored energy in total isolation with no ground 
>>>>>> reference.  A NECESSARY CONDITION TO GET THE MAGNETIC FLUX 
>>>>>> ANNIHILATION-Re-CONNECT PHENOMENON or EMP.     This experiment is 
>>>>>> something anyone can duplicate and observe the phenomenon for 
>>>>>> yourself.  The reversible ceiling fan is the simplest and easiest 
>>>>>> and less expensive to replicate. Most current available 
>>>>>> reversible fans utilize the electrical capacitor relocation via 
>>>>>> toggle switch to reverse rotation.  All you have to do is open up 
>>>>>> circuit and re-wire the cap so that you have a momentary loss of 
>>>>>> ground reference (neutral) while the reversing switch is in 
>>>>>> transit. Reverse it several times and you will explode switch!   
>>>>>> Now Mick, what do you not understand??   I was just too curious 
>>>>>> to let this go by without finding an answer.   Just remember the 
>>>>>> Axiom, Energy cannot be destroyed but it can change forms.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/19/2018 10:04 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Norm,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So why did you first notice this even at a clients, shorted 
>>>>>>> start cap or seized bearing? Interesting I have noticed a ground 
>>>>>>> rod near pool equipment with GFI but rarely have seen or can 
>>>>>>> recall one next to a heat pump or AC unit and 10 feet ground rod 
>>>>>>> damn that's deeper than a dirt nap.  At 60hz the capacitive 
>>>>>>> coupling is negligible.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Unless I am misunderstanding something the L1-L2 at the supply 
>>>>>>> side... coupling to earth would still be at the transformer to 
>>>>>>> center tap neutral back at the pole then the neutral is ground 
>>>>>>> bonded at the service.  Since it is on the sink side of the 
>>>>>>> transformer from the utility there is a direct path to ground 
>>>>>>> through a certain impedance,reactance and reluctance whatever 
>>>>>>> importance that plays into the event.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11/19/2018 4:44 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Locked means exactly what the term expresses! No rotor motion 
>>>>>>>> relative to stator!  On the early 5 Ton A/C units they were 
>>>>>>>> service wired with a 3 conductor wip from service disconnect to 
>>>>>>>> A/C unit! You had L-1 & L-2 230VAC (hots) and a green earth 
>>>>>>>> bonding wire to motor and chasis frame. In addition, you had 
>>>>>>>> a10 ft. ground stake into earth ground to bond this outdoor 
>>>>>>>> installation for safety reasons.    When over-current relay (84 
>>>>>>>> amps) drops out starter contactor there is NO GROUND PATH to 
>>>>>>>> discipate the charge, both magbetic flux sayuration (Inductive 
>>>>>>>> power) and the two charged capacitors in the circuit.  This 
>>>>>>>> energy is in an isolated state due to insulation in the motor 
>>>>>>>> windings and capacitors.   Ole will jump in here and say there 
>>>>>>>> is capacitive coupling between motor frame and isolated 
>>>>>>>> capacitance and magnetic flux at saturation.    I built and did 
>>>>>>>> the test on this phenomenon after I saw it in real life in a 
>>>>>>>> clients back yard.  Easy to duplicate!  The reversible ceiling 
>>>>>>>> fan trick can be done by anyone by just changing the wiring on 
>>>>>>>> the reversing capacitor in-order to float neutral while the 
>>>>>>>> reversing switch is in transition. Simple!   ( BOOM)!!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 11/18/2018 11:15 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Norm,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> How did you run the motor in locked mode, by preventing the 
>>>>>>>>> start cap from energizing?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> When you experimented with the energy from this motor where 
>>>>>>>>> did you extract the differential, from the green wire running 
>>>>>>>>> back to the service panel or another grounding rod and from 
>>>>>>>>> the motor frame where the ground bonding clip usually is or 
>>>>>>>>> somewhere else?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Assuming frame on your dual winding induction motor was 
>>>>>>>>> isolated sink side from the stator windings by their 
>>>>>>>>> insulation  as you mentioned earlier there was no neutral and 
>>>>>>>>> on the source side by the center tap in the pole pig?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Not sure why I was thinking locked was synchronous mode as we 
>>>>>>>>> discussed earlier the concept of Mag Transmitter is to 
>>>>>>>>> saturate the core and release, or as Hector likes to say 
>>>>>>>>> switch off to turn on.  Some major issues going on here, head 
>>>>>>>>> on backwards.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So impedance does opposite of a LC tank and dropped like a 
>>>>>>>>> series LC hmmm...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mick
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 11/18/2018 3:44 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks! Ole for the explanation!  Rotation is required 
>>>>>>>>>> inorder for counter emf to be generated. In stalled rotor or 
>>>>>>>>>> locked rotor conditions, the current through the windings is 
>>>>>>>>>> only limited by R = resitance. My dual winding 5 HP motor in 
>>>>>>>>>> locked rotor had a combined current draw of 84 amps @ 230VAC 
>>>>>>>>>> input. When you look at the BH curve on a scope you see the 
>>>>>>>>>> magnetic flux build to saturation at which point the 
>>>>>>>>>> impedance is = to Zero ( air value) with R being the only 
>>>>>>>>>> limiting factor. (Ole). I used the dual winding motor for it 
>>>>>>>>>> has a starting cap value of 40mfd and a run cap with a value 
>>>>>>>>>> of 5 mfd, both of which are in circuit when current limiting 
>>>>>>>>>> relay drops circuit open yielding the Neutral Spike form 
>>>>>>>>>> ground.   Magneto Electric effect. For it to work, the caps 
>>>>>>>>>> and motor windings have to be isolated from neutral and earth 
>>>>>>>>>> ground reference.  the iron motor frame is earth bonded. 
>>>>>>>>>> Cancellation of energy in isolation will create an EMP earth 
>>>>>>>>>> ground response.  This goes back to Page 25 of CSN by Tesla 
>>>>>>>>>> himself.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 11/17/2018 5:12 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Locked rotor is when the rotor is prevented from rotating. 
>>>>>>>>>>> This is also known as stalled rotor.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Synchronous speed is when the rotor follows the rotating 
>>>>>>>>>>> magnetic wave(s) of the stator. In an induction motor 
>>>>>>>>>>> (asynchronous motor) this means no power transmission 
>>>>>>>>>>> between the rotor and the stator. The motor is then working 
>>>>>>>>>>> neither as motor or generator.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Slip is the ratio between the rotor speed and the rotating 
>>>>>>>>>>> field speed.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>> Ole
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ---In [email protected], <mkjekyll@...> wrote :
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Norm,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I am slowly digesting this but I think my concept of locked 
>>>>>>>>>>> rotor was/is in error.  Always thought this was when the 
>>>>>>>>>>> rotor is locked to the rotational field from stator with 
>>>>>>>>>>> least amount of slip, seems like I am reading now it is most 
>>>>>>>>>>> amount of slip.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Can you provide what locked rotor means to you and any 
>>>>>>>>>>> additional information of what you think may be occurring 
>>>>>>>>>>> beyond the everyday accepted definition?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Mick
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2018 5:55 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... 
>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>     Mick, Ole, Kone etal!  I have been thinking a lot about
>>>>>>>>>>>>     my Locked Rotor experiments and did a lot of reading to
>>>>>>>>>>>>     come up with a fool proof Lenz free motor / generator
>>>>>>>>>>>>     combination which is so easy to build and proof test!
>>>>>>>>>>>>     First of all you should read what we know as facts! See
>>>>>>>>>>>>     the following articles:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>     https://www.motioncontroltips.com/faq-what-are-dc-shunt-motors-and-where-are-they-used/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>     http://www.machineryspaces.com/direct-current-motors.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>     https://www.quora.com/What-will-happen-if-the-back-EMF-of-a-DC-motor-vanishes
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-FPcKgwSzs&feature=youtu.be
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3TFALmHtMw&feature=youtu.be
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>     https://www.researchgate.net/post/A_DC_shunt_motor_is_running_at_light_load_what_happens_if_the_field_winding_gets_opened
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>     Kone loves to play with the very powerful Neos as found
>>>>>>>>>>>>     at K&G Magnetics and shown in the video of the Ray's
>>>>>>>>>>>>     LENZ free generator. What I will propose is very simple
>>>>>>>>>>>>     application of DC motor principles as read from the
>>>>>>>>>>>>     cited references. First you make your LENZ free  motor
>>>>>>>>>>>>     which is in reality a LINEAR MOTOR (Solenoid) which
>>>>>>>>>>>>     will give the necessary stroke length to drive the
>>>>>>>>>>>>     LINEAR generator (Coil oscillating within the drag
>>>>>>>>>>>>     free, LENZ free area of the Neo magnets). Stroke of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>     solenoid is controlled by Hall sensor and IGBT drive
>>>>>>>>>>>>     switch to give an excursion rate (stroke) at a
>>>>>>>>>>>>     frequency of 60 HZ. By using a DC pulse  to drive the
>>>>>>>>>>>>     solenoid coil it is tricked into being in LOCKED ROTOR
>>>>>>>>>>>>     condition, thus no LENZ effect.  Has the light come on
>>>>>>>>>>>>     yet??   We know that Ray's generator puts out a sine
>>>>>>>>>>>>     wave output (AC) with no LENZ drag. Following the DC
>>>>>>>>>>>>     motor principles as applied to the solenoid driver, you
>>>>>>>>>>>>     have a motor that is LENZ free also. The combo should
>>>>>>>>>>>>     give an Over-unity output. Now the tricky part!  We
>>>>>>>>>>>>     know as Ole will agree in that when you switch the
>>>>>>>>>>>>     solenoid power to off state as magnetic flux is
>>>>>>>>>>>>     building toward saturation there will be a huge voltage
>>>>>>>>>>>>     spike (Neutral Spike) which we have to capture and not
>>>>>>>>>>>>     send to ground as ordinary practice in solid state
>>>>>>>>>>>>     switch design (snubber diodes)  The capture of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>     SPIKE energy (HV) which occurs naturally will be the
>>>>>>>>>>>>     over-unity factor here! Interesting concept! Think
>>>>>>>>>>>>     about it!  Norm Mick! (accumulator HV caps)!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>     On 11/16/2018 6:23 AM, Mick mkjekyll@...
>>>>>>>>>>>>     <mailto:mkjekyll@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Ole,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     I have had caps charge much faster in an LC tank than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     otherwise, but it could also have to do with noise in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     the core material as I was no using an air inductor.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     On 11/16/2018 1:19 AM, onielsen@...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     <mailto:onielsen@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Hi Mick,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     "If a reactive LC tank capacitor is then disconnected
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     from the reactive source then discharged to a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     resistive load then reconnected energized back to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     standing wave modality recharged disconnected
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     discharged etc.  If the reactive energy is harvested
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     in this manner are you claiming the same losses will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     occur as power factor correcting the reactive back
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     into real power?"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Yes that's correct.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Common power factor correction in AC is for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     eliminating the reactive power that doesn't do any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     work but just heats the wires between the power plant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     and the reactive load. This is expensive for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     owners of the power transmission lines and thus
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     should be avoided. First storing the energy in a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     capacitor (or inductor or battery) and then dumping
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     it to an active load will still make the power go in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     just one direction even though it happens in pulses.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     The energy is then moving from the source to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     load. Reactive power has the energy moving to and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     from the load and power source. The power moving
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     between the capacitor and inductor in an LC-tank is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     pure reactive except for the loss because of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     parasitic resistance in the components and wires.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Ole
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     ---In [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]>, <mkjekyll@...>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     <mailto:mkjekyll@...> wrote :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Ole,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Disregarding the issue at hand with the patent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     terminology and not concerning ourselves with the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     patent just a very high Q tank.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     If a reactive LC tank capacitor is then disconnected
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     from the reactive source then discharged to a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     resistive load then reconnected energized back to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     standing wave modality recharged disconnected
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     discharged etc.  If the reactive energy is harvested
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     in this manner are you claiming the same losses will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     occur as power factor correcting the reactive back
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     into real power?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     On 11/15/2018 5:36 PM, onielsen@...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     <mailto:onielsen@...> [EVGRAY] wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         I have only read to the following paragraph
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         cited below. I wonder if the applicant knows
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         about what he is writing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Citing paragraph 106 of the patent application
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         (https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/53/7d/29/f7b4bd0194992d/US20070296373A1.pdf):
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         "[0106] There is voltage across the inductor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         connected in series to the capacitor and there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         is voltage across the inductor connected in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         parallel to the capacitor. Since
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Power=voltage×current, a single power input
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         produces two branches of electromagnetic power
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         output, increasing the power output. In the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         alternative, the present disclosure may have one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         electromagnetic power output with less energy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         input."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         It isn't as simple as this. If using an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         oscilloscope for measuring the current and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         voltage it will show some phase displacement
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         between the current and voltage which means
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         reactive power. Look at the following small
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         videos to see how one can be misled if not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         knowing how the phase between the current and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         voltage is: Only the the resistive part consumes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         (transforms) energy like R in figure 8.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         0:42
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJEZMCCBV3U>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               Overunity Device Cop 2,5 ? explanation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               part 3.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJEZMCCBV3U>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         9.5K views5 years ago
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         1:01
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jamj3-2w0eE>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               Overunity Device Cop 2,5 ? explanation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               part 2.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jamj3-2w0eE>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         10K views5 years ago
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>

Norm,

I think of the heart as an implosion biased pump also.

Great stuff on the parametric pumps, so a variometer in theory could be
used in the same manner for flux pumping hmmm...

I have to study the Hyde unit further.  When I first saw the concept
used in the super high output electrostatic machines my main thought was
it's a good way to begin to be able to use transfomers and pictured the
voltage change like a cap divider but did not understand how the gain in
coulombs would take place so thanks for the PDF's.

Did you measure a power gain when using this device.

Experimenting with the neutral spike, were you able to store in a cap
bank and if so did you notice a temp change one way or another with the
caps?

On 11/21/2018 2:24 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
> Hyde Device

Mick! There is much more going on in the variable capacitor than meets 
the eye!  A mechanical analog would be like a human heart for it moves 
fluid (blood) by squeezing through valves. It in reality is an electron 
pump in effect.  See: Resonance-assisted parametric electron pump   See: 
Spin-polarized parametric pumping: Theory and numerical results  Ole has 
been discussing this parametric pumping action.

On 11/21/2018 12:55 PM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>
> See: Imbeded response.
>
> On 11/21/2018 12:43 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>> Hi Norm,
>>
>> This is correct.   As you're proclaiming, in the end a magneto type 
>> build may be a better solution than just hard switched coil banging 
>> as it does seem to favor finesse over force allowing for more control 
>> with fewer supporting parts.  First in order to study this more in 
>> depth I have to make sure my batt system is properly saturating the 
>> iron core to create the pure current potential vacuum flux state.  
>> Seems easier from the wall for some reason even though there should 
>> be no diff in a DC charged cap of the same mFd charged to the same V 
>> in the same time constant delivering a spike to saturate a core.  
>> Will stop trying to correlate the wall power diff and move forward.
>>
>> That link has some interesting devices such as the vircator and some 
>> good stuff on the pinch devices.   It definitely conveys the concept 
>> of total isolation and screw the source.
>>
>> On another subject, your electrostatic device induced me to think of 
>> a motorized variometer and what odd functions it may allow for.
>>
>> When experimenting with your spinning variable cap what results did 
>> you witness?  ( Due to the rapid change in capacitance value you 
>> could realize by use of diodes to get a multiplication of potential 
>> at output which was steered to accumulator capacitors just like Kone 
>> is trying to do. I proved to me that the effect is real which is what 
>> Ole and crew are discussing It was the basis for the Hyde Device as 
>> seen on Rex Research page.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Mick
>>
>>
>> On 11/21/23:46 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>> Mick!  I see now that you are attempting to get a SOURCE that is 
>>> isolated so that you may be able to sustain the EMP pulse event.  
>>> Battery/ inverter set up.  If you use the EMP non nuclear device as 
>>> an example you see that it is a one shot device since the long 
>>> solenoid coil is progressively shorted by ultra high speed 
>>> explosives while super saturated via capacitor discharge. See: 
>>> https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/f20b/94c86b9620166bdb82556b5be93261c80c64.pdf 
>>> All with device in total isolation from earth reference ground. 
>>> Believe it or not, Tesla advocated this technique when he discussed 
>>> taking pure iron into a state of super saturation (coil core) which 
>>> Ole will attest to that the impedance drops to an air value.  Doug 
>>> was hitting on this with his coil shorting routine.  The Hyde 
>>> Generator was a variable capacitor machine and this is a variable 
>>> inductance device.  Please read how the current is amplified in the 
>>> MFCG.    In the Hyde generator, when the value of C is reduced there 
>>> is a multiplication of the voltage (amplification). In the MFCG, 
>>> when the value of L is taken to zero in a saturated state the 
>>> current is multiplied (Amplification).   Thanks for you effort!   
>>> You will get there when armed with knowledge as to how this all 
>>> works!   Norm
>>>
>>> On 11/20/2018 7:23 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Norm,
>>>>
>>>> OK thanks back to the bench, need to check BH on the battery setup 
>>>> again...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11/20/2018 3:01 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I see that you still have not had your LIGHT COME ON YET.  You are 
>>>>> dwelling on the source side of the circuit which is not the 
>>>>> answer.  Simply put, you have to create the condition where you 
>>>>> have a totally isolated charged inductor and charged capacitors 
>>>>> (TOTALLY ISOLATED) from any ground reference.  Energy simply 
>>>>> cannot vanish into empty space.   My 5 HP motor experiment 
>>>>> accomplished the isolation condition and when the energy was 
>>>>> annihilated, inductor energy & capacitor energy cancelled , I got 
>>>>> the EMP response from the earth side of the circuit.  To hell with 
>>>>> the source, for once the inductor is flux loaded, to saturation 
>>>>> and capacitors are charged, then the source is totally out of the 
>>>>> equation. Once that starting contactor opens the source is no 
>>>>> longer a factor.  In all of my trials with this, I have never seen 
>>>>> any degrading or rupture of dielectric material nor damage to any 
>>>>> wiring, no matter how small. The energy is in the form of a very 
>>>>> high freq (RF event) with very high current but no damage to small 
>>>>> appliance motors.  I lived in a Dallas neighborhood that had a 
>>>>> power distribution sub station just down the street from me. 
>>>>> Numerous times during lightning storms I had been awakened by my 
>>>>> VHS VCR, old top loader, (turned off) tape mechanism start up and 
>>>>> start to eject tape, get half way and reverse and put tape back 
>>>>> down as before it started. Like a 1/2 cycle operation.  This was 
>>>>> sort of the same EMP neutral side surge which affected the tape 
>>>>> drive mechanism.  People see the sort of thing but are not smart 
>>>>> enough to question why they happen!      Sorry to say that most of 
>>>>> my experimentation was done on the KEELY BBS and was a closed group.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/20/2018 11:33 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Norm,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you for the in depth post of your experience uncovering 
>>>>>> this event.  Sorry to frustrate you with what seem like 
>>>>>> repetitive questions. Everything here is understood.  My question 
>>>>>> had to do with the source side of the whole systemic occurrence 
>>>>>> and not that I don't understand just that I like things to be 
>>>>>> very succinct in my small brain, therefore I was trying to map 
>>>>>> out the circuit including all E and B field connections in order 
>>>>>> that for instance the ceiling fan experiment be replicated from a 
>>>>>> battery inverter source without connection to the utility.  In 
>>>>>> other words the DUH I brought up the other week.  You have 
>>>>>> explained the phenomenon and it's creation many times but seem to 
>>>>>> have left out the functions from the source side of the circuit 
>>>>>> and how that interacts with the whole experiment and magnetic 
>>>>>> connect-anniliation-reconnect.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have successfully replicated the shots to larger and smaller 
>>>>>> scale while using the utility sourced power but not yet reliably 
>>>>>> from an inverter driven isolated system so attempting to 
>>>>>> determine the best way to move forward on the source side without 
>>>>>> burning up any more devices or at least a minimum so.  I think I 
>>>>>> need to procure an iso transformer with a center tap and ground 
>>>>>> it on the sink side to the center tap in order there is the 
>>>>>> magnetic connection to the earth on source side in the first 
>>>>>> place not just the ground rod on the sink side of the 
>>>>>> experiment.  Otherwise part two will require a giant stepdown of 
>>>>>> similar proportions to a pole pig. Just trying to streamline and 
>>>>>> keep expenses low.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I hope the above does not further frustrate you but rather 
>>>>>> conveys the why of my question which I can see seemed to be 
>>>>>> circular and puerile. Sorry to offend.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> By the way I don't know if you had posted this story before but 
>>>>>> with Yahoo and search and all your references to the neutral 
>>>>>> spike event I have never uncovered it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank again!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/20/2018 6:58 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mick!  I am getting just like Hector here by having to explain 
>>>>>>> something over and over!  I guess short memory is the cause for 
>>>>>>> lack of understanding the whole project.   First you have to go 
>>>>>>> back to the 1981 ceiling fan, 1/6th HP capacitor run shaded pole 
>>>>>>> motor problem. A wiring error by a Chinese assembly worker 
>>>>>>> incorrectly wired the capacitor reversing switch into the 
>>>>>>> neutral side of the circuit which provided a total isolation of 
>>>>>>> charge while the switch was in transition from forward operation 
>>>>>>> to reverse operation. Reversing switch would explode.  This was 
>>>>>>> my first encounter with the phenomenon which I researched and 
>>>>>>> determined that it was a Magneto-Electric effect or better put, 
>>>>>>> Magnetic flux annihilation-reconnect as we now know it. In 
>>>>>>> Physics we have always been taught that energy cannot be 
>>>>>>> destroyed but can change forms as we clearly see by simple 
>>>>>>> experiment. With this knowledge tucked back in the memory bank, 
>>>>>>> I had the occasion to encounter this phenomenon again in around 
>>>>>>> 1984. A wealthy widow had remodeled her expansive Highland Park 
>>>>>>> home (Dallas) and I had installed a projection TV system into 
>>>>>>> her den.   MS. Sharp called and said  she had a Poltergeist in 
>>>>>>> her den. When I arrived she served tea and told me to sit there 
>>>>>>> and wait a few minutes.  The TV screen and projector both 
>>>>>>> started descending from the ceiling then reversed and went back 
>>>>>>> up.  Both these motors were shaded pole, capacitor run design so 
>>>>>>> that switching via wall switch could reverse operation, either 
>>>>>>> up or down against limit switches. Here is the Somfy motor 
>>>>>>> example so you understand how they operate: 
>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMHEJ2iIu14&feature=youtu.be 
>>>>>>> When I went into attic to examine the motorized units the 
>>>>>>> phenomenon occurred again. Sure enough the screen and projector 
>>>>>>> descended half way down then reversed and retracted. Over my 
>>>>>>> head was a powered turbo ventilator attic fan of shaded pole 
>>>>>>> design which took off ZIIIIINNNNG , super fast acceleration up 
>>>>>>> to a speed about 10X design speed but one big problem was that 
>>>>>>> it took off backwards! The turbine took several minutes to coast 
>>>>>>> down to a stop.  A visit downstairs found that a small appliance 
>>>>>>> like a counter top blender in the kitchen (shaded pole motor) 
>>>>>>> would take off spinning backwards then stop.  The only 
>>>>>>> connection that all these motor had when sitting in a turned off 
>>>>>>> state was a connection to the neutral buss.   Interesting fact 
>>>>>>> was that with the very small size motor windings and sudden 
>>>>>>> fantastic acceleration up to very high speed (backwards) did no 
>>>>>>> damage to the motors. I did an inspection to the mains breakers 
>>>>>>> and house wiring including the service cabelling and earth 
>>>>>>> ground at the mains panel. All was up to Dallas Code. While 
>>>>>>> walking in side yard, I found a brand new installation of a 5 
>>>>>>> ton A/C Condensing unit. in addition to the older 5 ton unit. 
>>>>>>> Both units were earth bonded via the Required (Highland Park 
>>>>>>> Code) 10 ft. ground rod at the units.  Both units were 5  Ton, 
>>>>>>> 230VAC single phase. While I was looking at the A/C units , the 
>>>>>>> new one tried to start against a locked rotor condition.  From 
>>>>>>> contactor closure to WHUUUUUMP, EMP shot which you could feel 
>>>>>>> the brissance in the ground took about 1/2 second.  This was the 
>>>>>>> source of the EMP event which caused the neutral buss to carry 
>>>>>>> this very unusual form of energy.  The A/C guys came out and 
>>>>>>> replaced the compressor and rectified the situation but I came 
>>>>>>> away with a better understanding a very common phenomenon that 
>>>>>>> most do not take time to fully understand nor appreciate the 
>>>>>>> implications.   By studing the ongoing research of the natural 
>>>>>>> occurrence of this EMP phenomenon from Solar magnetic storms 
>>>>>>> Magnetic Annihilation -Reconnect which have been duplicated in 
>>>>>>> Labs gathering better understanding of phenomenon. I elected to 
>>>>>>> bench top duplicate the situation which I had observed back in 
>>>>>>> 1984 at the Sharp residence. Since I was doing HVAC, Electrical 
>>>>>>> and Electronics Contracting, I had many compressors at my 
>>>>>>> disposal just like the one in the Carrier A/C unit.    By 
>>>>>>> hydraulic locking the compressor via filling with oil and 
>>>>>>> pinching off the suction and discharge lines you have a fully 
>>>>>>> locked up sealed unit See:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This unit utilizes a 40mfd start cap and a 5mfd run cap 
>>>>>>> controlled by current relay.  When energized via 2 pole,230VAC, 
>>>>>>> starter contactor, both the start and run windings are 
>>>>>>> energized. When the Over current relay senses the locked rotor 
>>>>>>> current of 84 amps ( motor in magnetic saturation) the circuit 
>>>>>>> is opened leaving the stored energy in total isolation with no 
>>>>>>> ground reference.  A NECESSARY CONDITION TO GET THE MAGNETIC 
>>>>>>> FLUX ANNIHILATION-Re-CONNECT PHENOMENON or EMP.     This 
>>>>>>> experiment is something anyone can duplicate and observe the 
>>>>>>> phenomenon for yourself.  The reversible ceiling fan is the 
>>>>>>> simplest and easiest and less expensive to replicate. Most 
>>>>>>> current available reversible fans utilize the electrical 
>>>>>>> capacitor relocation via toggle switch to reverse rotation.  All 
>>>>>>> you have to do is open up circuit and re-wire the cap so that 
>>>>>>> you have a momentary loss of ground reference (neutral) while 
>>>>>>> the reversing switch is in transit. Reverse it several times and 
>>>>>>> you will explode switch!   Now Mick, what do you not 
>>>>>>> understand?? I was just too curious to let this go by without 
>>>>>>> finding an answer. Just remember the Axiom, Energy cannot be 
>>>>>>> destroyed but it can change forms.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11/19/2018 10:04 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Norm,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So why did you first notice this even at a clients, shorted 
>>>>>>>> start cap or seized bearing? Interesting I have noticed a 
>>>>>>>> ground rod near pool equipment with GFI but rarely have seen or 
>>>>>>>> can recall one next to a heat pump or AC unit and 10 feet 
>>>>>>>> ground rod damn that's deeper than a dirt nap.  At 60hz the 
>>>>>>>> capacitive coupling is negligible.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Unless I am misunderstanding something the L1-L2 at the supply 
>>>>>>>> side... coupling to earth would still be at the transformer to 
>>>>>>>> center tap neutral back at the pole then the neutral is ground 
>>>>>>>> bonded at the service.  Since it is on the sink side of the 
>>>>>>>> transformer from the utility there is a direct path to ground 
>>>>>>>> through a certain impedance,reactance and reluctance whatever 
>>>>>>>> importance that plays into the event.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 11/19/2018 4:44 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Locked means exactly what the term expresses! No rotor motion 
>>>>>>>>> relative to stator! On the early 5 Ton A/C units they were 
>>>>>>>>> service wired with a 3 conductor wip from service disconnect 
>>>>>>>>> to A/C unit! You had L-1 & L-2 230VAC (hots) and a green earth 
>>>>>>>>> bonding wire to motor and chasis frame. In addition, you had 
>>>>>>>>> a10 ft. ground stake into earth ground to bond this outdoor 
>>>>>>>>> installation for safety reasons.    When over-current relay 
>>>>>>>>> (84 amps) drops out starter contactor there is NO GROUND PATH 
>>>>>>>>> to discipate the charge, both magbetic flux sayuration 
>>>>>>>>> (Inductive power) and the two charged capacitors in the 
>>>>>>>>> circuit.  This energy is in an isolated state due to 
>>>>>>>>> insulation in the motor windings and capacitors. Ole will jump 
>>>>>>>>> in here and say there is capacitive coupling between motor 
>>>>>>>>> frame and isolated capacitance and magnetic flux at 
>>>>>>>>> saturation.    I built and did the test on this phenomenon 
>>>>>>>>> after I saw it in real life in a clients back yard.  Easy to 
>>>>>>>>> duplicate! The reversible ceiling fan trick can be done by 
>>>>>>>>> anyone by just changing the wiring on the reversing capacitor 
>>>>>>>>> in-order to float neutral while the reversing switch is in 
>>>>>>>>> transition.  Simple! ( BOOM)!!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 11/18/2018 11:15 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Norm,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> How did you run the motor in locked mode, by preventing the 
>>>>>>>>>> start cap from energizing?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> When you experimented with the energy from this motor where 
>>>>>>>>>> did you extract the differential, from the green wire running 
>>>>>>>>>> back to the service panel or another grounding rod and from 
>>>>>>>>>> the motor frame where the ground bonding clip usually is or 
>>>>>>>>>> somewhere else?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Assuming frame on your dual winding induction motor was 
>>>>>>>>>> isolated sink side from the stator windings by their 
>>>>>>>>>> insulation  as you mentioned earlier there was no neutral and 
>>>>>>>>>> on the source side by the center tap in the pole pig?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Not sure why I was thinking locked was synchronous mode as we 
>>>>>>>>>> discussed earlier the concept of Mag Transmitter is to 
>>>>>>>>>> saturate the core and release, or as Hector likes to say 
>>>>>>>>>> switch off to turn on.  Some major issues going on here, head 
>>>>>>>>>> on backwards.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So impedance does opposite of a LC tank and dropped like a 
>>>>>>>>>> series LC hmmm...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Mick
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 11/18/2018 3:44 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] 
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks! Ole for the explanation! Rotation is required 
>>>>>>>>>>> inorder for counter emf to be generated. In stalled rotor or 
>>>>>>>>>>> locked rotor conditions, the current through the windings is 
>>>>>>>>>>> only limited by R = resitance. My dual winding 5 HP motor in 
>>>>>>>>>>> locked rotor had a combined current draw of 84 amps @ 230VAC 
>>>>>>>>>>> input. When you look at the BH curve on a scope you see the 
>>>>>>>>>>> magnetic flux build to saturation at which point the 
>>>>>>>>>>> impedance is = to Zero ( air value) with R being the only 
>>>>>>>>>>> limiting factor. (Ole). I used the dual winding motor for it 
>>>>>>>>>>> has a starting cap value of 40mfd and a run cap with a value 
>>>>>>>>>>> of 5 mfd, both of which are in circuit when current limiting 
>>>>>>>>>>> relay drops circuit open yielding the Neutral Spike form 
>>>>>>>>>>> ground. Magneto Electric effect. For it to work, the caps 
>>>>>>>>>>> and motor windings have to be isolated from neutral and 
>>>>>>>>>>> earth ground reference. the iron motor frame is earth 
>>>>>>>>>>> bonded. Cancellation of energy in isolation will create an 
>>>>>>>>>>> EMP earth ground response.  This goes back to Page 25 of CSN 
>>>>>>>>>>> by Tesla himself.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/17/2018 5:12 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Locked rotor is when the rotor is prevented from rotating. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> This is also known as stalled rotor.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Synchronous speed is when the rotor follows the rotating 
>>>>>>>>>>>> magnetic wave(s) of the stator. In an induction motor 
>>>>>>>>>>>> (asynchronous motor) this means no power transmission 
>>>>>>>>>>>> between the rotor and the stator. The motor is then working 
>>>>>>>>>>>> neither as motor or generator.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Slip is the ratio between the rotor speed and the rotating 
>>>>>>>>>>>> field speed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ole
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ---In [email protected], <mkjekyll@...> wrote :
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Norm,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I am slowly digesting this but I think my concept of locked 
>>>>>>>>>>>> rotor was/is in error.  Always thought this was when the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> rotor is locked to the rotational field from stator with 
>>>>>>>>>>>> least amount of slip, seems like I am reading now it is 
>>>>>>>>>>>> most amount of slip.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you provide what locked rotor means to you and any 
>>>>>>>>>>>> additional information of what you think may be occurring 
>>>>>>>>>>>> beyond the everyday accepted definition?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mick
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2018 5:55 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... 
>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Mick, Ole, Kone etal!  I have been thinking a lot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     about my Locked Rotor experiments and did a lot of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     reading to come up with a fool proof Lenz free motor /
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     generator combination which is so easy to build and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     proof test! First of all you should read what we know
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     as facts! See the following articles:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     https://www.motioncontroltips.com/faq-what-are-dc-shunt-motors-and-where-are-they-used/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     http://www.machineryspaces.com/direct-current-motors.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     https://www.quora.com/What-will-happen-if-the-back-EMF-of-a-DC-motor-vanishes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-FPcKgwSzs&feature=youtu.be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3TFALmHtMw&feature=youtu.be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     https://www.researchgate.net/post/A_DC_shunt_motor_is_running_at_light_load_what_happens_if_the_field_winding_gets_opened
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Kone loves to play with the very powerful Neos as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     found at K&G Magnetics and shown in the video of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Ray's LENZ free generator. What I will propose is very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     simple application of DC motor principles as read from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     the cited references. First you make your LENZ free 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     motor which is in reality a LINEAR MOTOR (Solenoid)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     which will give the necessary stroke length to drive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     the LINEAR generator (Coil oscillating within the drag
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     free, LENZ free area of the Neo magnets). Stroke of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     the solenoid is controlled by Hall sensor and IGBT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     drive switch to give an excursion rate (stroke) at a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     frequency of 60 HZ. By using a DC pulse  to drive the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     solenoid coil it is tricked into being in LOCKED ROTOR
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     condition, thus no LENZ effect.  Has the light come on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     yet??   We know that Ray's generator puts out a sine
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     wave output (AC) with no LENZ drag. Following the DC
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     motor principles as applied to the solenoid driver,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     you have a motor that is LENZ free also. The combo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     should give an Over-unity output. Now the tricky
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     part!  We know as Ole will agree in that when you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     switch the solenoid power to off state as magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     flux is building toward saturation there will be a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     huge voltage spike (Neutral Spike) which we have to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     capture and not send to ground as ordinary practice in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     solid state switch design (snubber diodes)  The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     capture of the SPIKE energy (HV) which occurs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     naturally will be the over-unity factor here!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Interesting concept! Think about it!  Norm Mick!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     (accumulator HV caps)!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     On 11/16/2018 6:23 AM, Mick mkjekyll@...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     <mailto:mkjekyll@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Ole,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     I have had caps charge much faster in an LC tank than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     otherwise, but it could also have to do with noise in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     the core material as I was no using an air inductor.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     On 11/16/2018 1:19 AM, onielsen@...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     <mailto:onielsen@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Hi Mick,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     "If a reactive LC tank capacitor is then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     disconnected from the reactive source then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     discharged to a resistive load then reconnected
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     energized back to the standing wave modality
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     recharged disconnected discharged etc.  If the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     reactive energy is harvested in this manner are you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     claiming the same losses will occur as power factor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     correcting the reactive back into real power?"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Yes that's correct.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Common power factor correction in AC is for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     eliminating the reactive power that doesn't do any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     work but just heats the wires between the power
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     plant and the reactive load. This is expensive for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     the owners of the power transmission lines and thus
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     should be avoided. First storing the energy in a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     capacitor (or inductor or battery) and then dumping
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     it to an active load will still make the power go in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     just one direction even though it happens in pulses.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     The energy is then moving from the source to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     load. Reactive power has the energy moving to and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     from the load and power source. The power moving
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     between the capacitor and inductor in an LC-tank is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     pure reactive except for the loss because of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     parasitic resistance in the components and wires.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Ole
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     ---In [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]>, <mkjekyll@...>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     <mailto:mkjekyll@...> wrote :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Ole,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Disregarding the issue at hand with the patent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     terminology and not concerning ourselves with the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     patent just a very high Q tank.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     If a reactive LC tank capacitor is then disconnected
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     from the reactive source then discharged to a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     resistive load then reconnected energized back to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     the standing wave modality recharged disconnected
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     discharged etc.  If the reactive energy is harvested
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     in this manner are you claiming the same losses will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     occur as power factor correcting the reactive back
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     into real power?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     On 11/15/2018 5:36 PM, onielsen@...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     <mailto:onielsen@...> [EVGRAY] wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         I have only read to the following paragraph
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         cited below. I wonder if the applicant knows
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         about what he is writing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Citing paragraph 106 of the patent application
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         (https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/53/7d/29/f7b4bd0194992d/US20070296373A1.pdf):
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         "[0106] There is voltage across the inductor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         connected in series to the capacitor and there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         is voltage across the inductor connected in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         parallel to the capacitor. Since
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Power=voltage×current, a single power input
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         produces two branches of electromagnetic power
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         output, increasing the power output. In the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         alternative, the present disclosure may have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         one electromagnetic power output with less
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         energy input."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         It isn't as simple as this. If using an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         oscilloscope for measuring the current and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         voltage it will show some phase displacement
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         between the current and voltage which means
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         reactive power. Look at the following small
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         videos to see how one can be misled if not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         knowing how the phase between the current and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         voltage is: Only the the resistive part
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         consumes (transforms) energy like R in figure 8.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         0:42
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJEZMCCBV3U>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               Overunity Device Cop 2,5 ? explanation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               part 3.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJEZMCCBV3U>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         9.5K views5 years ago
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         1:01
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jamj3-2w0eE>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               Overunity Device Cop 2,5 ? explanation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               part 2.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jamj3-2w0eE>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         10K views5 years ago
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>

Dave,

Cables do make a big diff but anyone who spends more than a few hundred
has more money than brains, silver sounds the best and teflon makes
great insulation.  If you have great components simply buy some .999
silver wire for jewelry and make your own cables.  Single strand the
smaller OD the better.

Gold is only used on connectors because it does not oxidize, copper is a
better connector.  The rhodium often used for the plating process sounds
not so nice.  Silver connectors are best and silver oxide is still
highly conductive.  Silver is only a problem in polluted areas with high
amounts of sulfur dioxide mixing with oxygen and creating a sulfide, the
silver sulfide does not conduct well.

Transformers and audio are a whole another science and properly designed
ones like Jensen or Llundahl are extremely transparent and much better
than differential op amps for galvanic isolation on balanced lines.

I have little respect for most of the high end gear and cables sold to
audiophools.

Yes everyone have a good holiday season!!!

On 11/21/2018 7:57 PM, Dave Muckerman [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
> Have anyone seen the youtube posters boasting about 1,700 dollars
> audiophile patch cables they claim that sound so great?
> I can't see needing them after spending all the money on the other
> fine components.
>
> Does it have impedance variations? does it look sound? that's all one
> needs.
> Ferrites and shielded cables and gold are all one needs!  silver for
> RF helps too.
>
> If you wanna test a transformer run audio through it to speakers and
> listen to the crossover and un-linearness.
>
> side note: Remember the Fogal transistor??? Claims of FTL and
> holographic sound images.
> Place a ceramic cap. across the junction and have many of same in
> parallel.
>
>
> On Saturday, November 3, 2018, 7:55:51 PM CDT, Mick [email protected]
> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>  
>
> Norm,
>
> The interconnects used for home audio should be illegal for bad sound,
> but even a properly designed mic cable with an XLR on each end with a
> hot a cold and a shield one will notice only on female side the shield
> connects to the chassis of the connector.  It is a single shield run
> on #1 to both sides though as the connections are designed balanced
> for just the reason you mentioned.
>
> XLR's are the best connector for long run connections but I make my
> own cable with silver plated aircraft cable with teflon insulation, a
> pain to work with but sound is great.
>
> For short single ended runs the RCA end sucks and it should have been
> BNC or the extra small microwave connectors that look like mini BNC's 
> If one removes the RCA connectors and replaces with BNC and high
> quality aircraft cable and the rest of the gear is good enough one
> will notice the difference.  Networking cable Cat 5 or 6 can also
> sound great as speaker cable.
>
> The story gets worse though as the old tube guitar amp had a switch
> that would toggle chassis ground between either connector on the power
> connection for the purpose of preventing ground loops when some live
> show venue had the outlets wired with hot and neutral reversed.  Well
> when that guitarist also happens to be a vocalist and touched a mic
> stand with the ground switched wrong it was not pretty if the shield
> was run to both chassis of the connectors.  This was an old soundman
> trick to get back at the rude ego asshole guitar players using the
> special fully grounded mic cable.  I am sure some people died from
> this prank where 220 was used.
>
>
> On 11/3/2018 4:46 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>  
>>
>> Mick!  Just had to laugh at your remark about floating grounds in the
>> recording studio!  Ha! Ha!  Way back when I was learning about fine
>> audio, I ran a shielded line level audio cable to hook two sound
>> systems together, about 100 ft run.  When I turned on the systems and
>> selected line in on the 2nd system, I had the prettiest motor boat
>> you ever heard!  Lol  Yep! I had grounded both ends of a shielded
>> cable and got a good example of a ground loop!
>>
>>
>> On 11/3/2018 4:54 PM, Mick [email protected]
>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>  
>>>
>>> Norm,
>>>
>>> Thanks for that.
>>>
>>> I love Mr Calrsons lab, I could happily live there for quite awhile
>>> with all that awesome vintage gear.  I have seen isolation
>>> transformers wired like that and it's so insane but I am used to
>>> testing all the grounding points.  When building a recording studio
>>> we have to float all the grounds so they are single point at the
>>> service panel and not looped anywhere else.  Often they are lifted
>>> at the outlet j-box due to the lack of control in a prewired
>>> building.  Ironically we also used to use autoformers for all of the
>>> light dimmers to prevent noise, so we often referred to the variacs
>>> as light dimmers.
>>>
>>> I still don't completely trust a scope on an isolation transformer
>>> even if the ground is properly isolated/ lifted due to the somewhat
>>> rare magnetic emp events we are talking about like when I kicked off
>>> all my ground faults in the house through one.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/3/2018 2:03 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected]
>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> Mick! Here is a helpful video regarding scopes and isolation
>>>> transformers on the test bench!
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBsQ3sZ45Fk&feature=youtu.be
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaELqAo4kkQ
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11/3/2018 12:36 PM, Mick [email protected]
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>> Norm,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the nudge in the right direction.  Now the process
>>>>> demands repeating with a totally isolated battery source
>>>>> configured the same way.   Funny how I was concentrating on
>>>>> isolating and connecting saturated inductive charge without the
>>>>> first magnetic variable taken into account.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have had no problem creating the event with my grid power source
>>>>> and even warned Sven that an isolation transformer will not always
>>>>> protect his scope when messing around with this energy.  My scope
>>>>> probe sitting on a bench shot me in the leg when I walked by when
>>>>> performing the experiments from my bench supply.  The bench supply
>>>>> has an isolation transformer of sorts. Being it is torroidal there
>>>>> is more inter-winding capacitive coupling and mutual inductance
>>>>> than with the proper EI transformer though there is at least the
>>>>> electrostatic shield and galvanic isolation.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for that reference. the Brit guy was funny, although I'm
>>>>> very familiar with iso transformers in audio work used for
>>>>> galvanic isolation and balancing to eliminate common mode noise.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/3/2018 4:42 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected]
>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mick!     Your DUH reference is funny!   To understand Isolation,
>>>>>> best to study and understand the Isolation Transformer.   The
>>>>>> super high quality ones are built to eliminate noise and DC
>>>>>> components that effect sensitive instruments like EEG and EKG
>>>>>> instruments. This will give you an idea as to construction and
>>>>>> purpose::
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isolation_transformer
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A little tutorial as to how they work!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfzy5IQMzyc&feature=youtu.be
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14kPQif9P7c&feature=youtu.be
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://toroid.com/Products/Medical-Isolation-Transformers
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The 230VAC, 5 HP locked rotor experiment was an example of
>>>>>> electrically isolated electrical circuitry when mains contactor
>>>>>> was opened since there was no neutral involve. There is magnetic
>>>>>> and capacitive coup[ling only   The dielectric insulation was not
>>>>>> compromised therefore no electrical connection.  The Chinese
>>>>>> motor experiment was isolated, (electrically) when the reversing
>>>>>> action was in transient. (Floating neutral) since there is a line
>>>>>> neutral in the 120VAC input.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/2/2018 2:44 PM, Mick [email protected]
>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Norm,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Since you have performed mass research on this event would you
>>>>>>> concur
>>>>>>> with my long distance observation that the event is not only due to
>>>>>>> charge isolation but inclusive of a magnetic connection from
>>>>>>> source in
>>>>>>> addition to the saturated and lifted inductive load?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Your bell buzzer and bell transformer acting as an isolation
>>>>>>> transformer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Both motor experiments, the small Emerson type and the HVAC unit
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> only two hot's no neutral, must have been powered by an isolation
>>>>>>> transformer of some type also such as the utility step down for the
>>>>>>> neighborhood or dedicated delta or wye for commercial or even
>>>>>>> acted as
>>>>>>> such from the dual windings of the HVAC motor.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Have you reliably produced the NS from any type of isolated battery
>>>>>>> system, or in all such cases was there a magnetic connection to
>>>>>>> an earth
>>>>>>> bonding in another spot?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My thoughts being one side of a transformer acting as a source is
>>>>>>> grounded and the secondary side isolated so that the only
>>>>>>> conceivable
>>>>>>> ground bonding on the sink might be considered as magnetic aside
>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>> the bonded motor frame or what not producing the reconnection.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I may be pissing up a rope notwithstanding the NS seems to be
>>>>>>> predicated
>>>>>>> on a B field connection somewhere in the source feed though the
>>>>>>> neutral
>>>>>>> is isolated electrically.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Perhaps this is a simple "Duh" to you that you had already
>>>>>>> figured out
>>>>>>> assuming everyone else at least this smart.  Either way it does
>>>>>>> create
>>>>>>> an interesting position in which to view 3 phase and
>>>>>>> transformers with
>>>>>>> an extra resonant winding.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> By the way, ironic your implication that the large medical isolation
>>>>>>> transformers create a heretofore unknown vector of extreme danger.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mick
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

Mick!  First of all I did not explore the Hyde type device far enough to 
glean any power gain from it. I just observed that it was sort of an 
electron pump using positive displacement like operation. When the 
capacitance value would go down the electrons flowed past the diodes at 
higher potential. My unit only varied by a value of about 20ufd turning 
at around 1,000 RPM. Real low freq.    Your second question require me 
to say Houston, We have a problem. No one yet has been able to capture 
an EMP event and store it in any kind of capacitor. I started a folder 
on the EVGRAY TWO site titled Ferroresonance Capture. It was under 
Norm's Research. I wanted to determine if this event can be captured 
since it happens so fast and at ultra high frequencies which I believe 
as in the Superlight doc. is above cosmic ray frequencies in the 
electromagnetic spectrum.  Just how do you propose to capture an A/C 
(really super high RF) pulse without first rectifying it to a DC 
component????? I do not know of any device that can capture and store 
ultra, ultra high freq RF.  Can you capture light frequencies and store 
them in a bottle???  You are attempting to store something a million 
times higher in freq than light.

See:

*WHAT IS SUPERLIGHT ?*

*By:Dr. John Mileweski***

*SuperLight is magnetic light; it is **magneto–electric radiation**. *

*Regular light is electric light or **electro–magnetic radiation**. 
There is parity or symmetry the Universe, everything has an equal and 
opposite mirror–image counterpart, the Ying and the Yang, right and 
left, matter and anti matter, the electron and the positron. Why not 
light? *

*Both science and metaphysics have honored this parity law in all things 
except light. They are wrong. **There is parity in light as well ! *

*I will now explain and give you more detail. *

*SuperLight is the unseen force in nature that has been ignored by 
science but real to the mystics and metaphysicians for thousands of 
years. It has been given different names by different cultures for 
thousands of years. *

*A Nuous, Chi, Biomagnetic Energy, Wilhelm Reich's Orgone Energy, 
Tesler's Free Earth Energy, Animal Magnetism, Space Energy, Vacuum 
Energy, and Zero Point Energy, etc. Those who have subtle perception 
know it is real. *

*SuperLight was identified scientifically over 100 years ago when James 
Clerk Maxwell <http://www.hbci.com/%7Ewenonah/new/report.htm> solved his 
famous wave equation. This occurred shortly after radio was invented by 
Nikola Tesla <http://www.hbci.com/%7Ewenonah/new/tesla.htm>, and 
theoretical physicists tried to find a mathematical model to explain 
radio waves. When using positive numbers in Maxwell's Equations this 
explains radio waves and also all forms of electro–magnetic radiation 
such as light, radio, TV, microwaves, x–rays, etc. What his equation 
also explains 100 years ago was SuperLight but because it was the 
solution that comes from the use of negative numbers, **"this second 
solution"**was ignored for over 100 years. Remember when you were taught 
algebra and were told to ignore imaginary numbers (e.g. The square root 
of –1) because they have no meaning in this world. Well, times have 
changed and now we have a very valid second solution to Maxwell's 
equation and it is SuperLight. *

*In the mid 70's a scientist, Dr. William Tiller, at Stanford University 
took another look at Maxwell's equation and asked; "What does this 
second solution explain when interpreted in our world."_{1} *

*To understand this second solution, we must first review what the first 
or positive solution explains. The first solution is as follows: Radio 
waves leave the antenna and radiate out into space from a point source 
(the antenna) equally in all directions into space toward infinity 
traveling at the speed of light. The wave is composed of a large 
electrical component and a small magnetic component 90 degrees to the 
electrical component. Thus named, electro–magnetic radiation. *

*The second solution describes a particle wave of just the opposite 
structure. It explains that **from infinity traveling toward the point 
source from all directions radiates SuperLight**. This new radiation is 
composed of a large magnetic component and a small electrical component, 
thus the name, magneto–electric radiation. When the equations are looked 
at more closely, one finds that **"SuperLight" travels at the speed of 
light squared !**  10^20 meters per second,   or 10 billion times faster 
than light <http://www.hbci.com/%7Ewenonah/new/gravity2.htm>. *

*It has a frequency 10 billion times higher, and has a corresponding, 
shorter wavelength.   It therefore has a higher energy density. *

*The question one asks immediately is, "if it is so powerful, how come 
we do not feel it, or how come it is not detected scientifically?"   
Well, the frequency is so high, its wave length so short, (4 x 10^–8 
nano–meters, or 4 x 10^–17 meters), its velocity so fast, that it goes 
through everything as though the substance was nearly completely 
transparent (like glass). *

*We can say the higher frequency is completely penetrating like x–rays, 
but even more so. More information, regarding the relative size, will be 
given later. *

*WHERE DOES SUPERLIGHT COME FROM ?***

*It comes out of black holes !***

*First, I will describe how regular light is formed and then make the 
analogy for SuperLight. *

*Regular electro–magnetic radiation or light is formed when electric 
monopoles give off energy. The electron in orbit about our atoms is an 
electric monopole — as it changes its' orbit it either gives off or 
absorbs energy in the form of electro– magnetic radiation. Sunlight is 
converted into electricity by this process in a solar cell. Just the 
opposite occurs in optical diodes, which convert electricity into light. *

*So, electro magnetic radiation or visible light is produced when an 
electron (an electric monopole) lowers its orbit and releases its energy 
in the form of light. *

*Now, I believe a similar event occurs in the extremely dense and hot 
matter found in black holes. It is theorized that black holes contain 
magnetic monopoles and when these extremely dense, extremely small, 
extremely energetic magnetic monopoles release energy by lowering their 
orbit they radiate magneto–electric radiation, our SuperLight. So black 
holes really are not so black. They are radiant beings of SuperLight. Of 
course SuperLight escapes the strong gravitation forces of the black 
holes because its velocity is the square of the velocity of light and it 
therefore, can easily escape._{7} *

*The current scientific thinking is that in the center of every galaxy 
in the universe is a black hole. There are billions and billions of 
galaxies all around us, and they all are producing SuperLight. We are 
literally bathed in a three-dimensional dynamic energy field, or an 
"Ether" of SuperLight — a Dynamic Ether. *

On 11/21/2018 5:44 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Norm,
>
> I think of the heart as an implosion biased pump also.
>
> Great stuff on the parametric pumps, so a variometer in theory could be
> used in the same manner for flux pumping hmmm...
>
> I have to study the Hyde unit further.  When I first saw the concept
> used in the super high output electrostatic machines my main thought was
> it's a good way to begin to be able to use transfomers and pictured the
> voltage change like a cap divider but did not understand how the gain in
> coulombs would take place so thanks for the PDF's.
>
> Did you measure a power gain when using this device.
>
> Experimenting with the neutral spike, were you able to store in a cap
> bank and if so did you notice a temp change one way or another with the
> caps?
>
> On 11/21/2018 2:24 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
> > Hyde Device
>
>

Norm,

OK now I can see another reason why you like page 25 so much.

Light can be captured and stored in a bottle of sorts with phase
conjugate mirrors, how long is debatable and very expensive to find out
but the time constant compared to wavelength is as molasses .  Funny
that I almost added at the end of my last post many years from now if
sapiens are still here and have not degenerated and continued to mature
technically, the light perhaps from a high power flashlight now will be
somehow turned into sizable power. 

But you're right this gets into theoretical quantum tunneling stuff that
if in existence is probably at the lowest story of a NORAD equivalent or
some such.

Or ask Hector he claims he can slow down light so may have thought of a
way to capture the event directly by slowing it down and suctioning off
the heat, rf or mag flux.

So I guess if we cannot capture it directly then we can only achieve
practical use by way of some indirect action caused by interference such
as how radioactive isotopes may function from this black hole spewage. 
Interesting how the high energy isotopes are so dense...

On 11/21/2018 6:53 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> Mick!  First of all I did not explore the Hyde type device far enough
> to glean any power gain from it. I just observed that it was sort of
> an electron pump using positive displacement like operation. When the
> capacitance value would go down the electrons flowed past the diodes
> at higher potential. My unit only varied by a value of about 20ufd
> turning at around 1,000 RPM. Real low freq.    Your second question
> require me to say Houston, We have a problem. No one yet has been able
> to capture an EMP event and store it in any kind of capacitor. I
> started a folder on the EVGRAY TWO site titled Ferroresonance Capture.
> It was under Norm's Research. I wanted to determine if this event can
> be captured since it happens so fast and at ultra high frequencies
> which I believe as in the Superlight doc. is above cosmic ray
> frequencies in the electromagnetic spectrum.  Just how do you propose
> to capture an A/C (really super high RF) pulse without first
> rectifying it to a DC component????? I do not know of any device that
> can capture and store ultra, ultra high freq RF.  Can you capture
> light frequencies and store them in a bottle???  You are attempting to
> store something a million times higher in freq than light.
>
> See: 
>
> *WHAT IS SUPERLIGHT ?*
>
> *By:  Dr. John Mileweski***
>
> *SuperLight is magnetic light; it is **magneto–electric radiation**. *
>
> *Regular light is electric light or **electro–magnetic radiation**.
> There is parity or symmetry the Universe, everything has an equal and
> opposite mirror–image counterpart, the Ying and the Yang, right and
> left, matter and anti matter, the electron and the positron. Why not
> light? *
>
> *Both science and metaphysics have honored this parity law in all
> things except light. They are wrong. **  There is parity in light as
> well ! *
>
> *I will now explain and give you more detail. *
>
> *SuperLight is the unseen force in nature that has been ignored by
> science but real to the mystics and metaphysicians for thousands of
> years. It has been given different names by different cultures for
> thousands of years. *
>
> *A Nuous, Chi, Biomagnetic Energy, Wilhelm Reich's Orgone Energy,
> Tesler's Free Earth Energy, Animal Magnetism, Space Energy, Vacuum
> Energy, and Zero Point Energy, etc. Those who have subtle perception
> know it is real. *
>
> *SuperLight was identified scientifically over 100 years ago when
> James Clerk Maxwell <http://www.hbci.com/%7Ewenonah/new/report.htm>
> solved his famous wave equation. This occurred shortly after radio was
> invented by Nikola Tesla
> <http://www.hbci.com/%7Ewenonah/new/tesla.htm>, and theoretical
> physicists tried to find a mathematical model to explain radio waves.
> When using positive numbers in Maxwell's Equations this explains radio
> waves and also all forms of electro–magnetic radiation such as light,
> radio, TV, microwaves, x–rays, etc. What his equation also explains
> 100 years ago was SuperLight but because it was the solution that
> comes from the use of negative numbers, **"this second solution"**was
> ignored for over 100 years. Remember when you were taught algebra and
> were told to ignore imaginary numbers (e.g. The square root of –1)
> because they have no meaning in this world. Well, times have changed
> and now we have a very valid second solution to Maxwell's equation and
> it is SuperLight. *
>
> *In the mid 70's a scientist, Dr. William Tiller, at Stanford
> University took another look at Maxwell's equation and asked; "What
> does this second solution explain when interpreted in our world."_{1} *
>
> *To understand this second solution, we must first review what the
> first or positive solution explains. The first solution is as follows:
> Radio waves leave the antenna and radiate out into space from a point
> source (the antenna) equally in all directions into space toward
> infinity traveling at the speed of light. The wave is composed of a
> large electrical component and a small magnetic component 90 degrees
> to the electrical component. Thus named, electro–magnetic radiation. *
>
> *The second solution describes a particle wave of just the opposite
> structure. It explains that **from infinity traveling toward the point
> source from all directions radiates SuperLight**. This new radiation
> is composed of a large magnetic component and a small electrical
> component, thus the name, magneto–electric radiation. When the
> equations are looked at more closely, one finds that **"SuperLight"
> travels at the speed of light squared !**  10^20 meters per second,  
> or 10 billion times faster than light
> <http://www.hbci.com/%7Ewenonah/new/gravity2.htm>. *
>
> *It has a frequency 10 billion times higher, and has a corresponding,
> shorter wavelength.   It therefore has a higher energy density. *
>
> *The question one asks immediately is, "if it is so powerful, how come
> we do not feel it, or how come it is not detected scientifically?"  
> Well, the frequency is so high, its wave length so short, (4 x 10^–8
> nano–meters, or 4 x 10^–17 meters), its velocity so fast, that it goes
> through everything as though the substance was nearly completely
> transparent (like glass). *
>
> *We can say the higher frequency is completely penetrating like
> x–rays, but even more so. More information, regarding the relative
> size, will be given later. *
>
> *WHERE DOES SUPERLIGHT COME FROM ?***
>
> *It comes out of black holes !***
>
> *First, I will describe how regular light is formed and then make the
> analogy for SuperLight. *
>
> *Regular electro–magnetic radiation or light is formed when electric
> monopoles give off energy. The electron in orbit about our atoms is an
> electric monopole — as it changes its' orbit it either gives off or
> absorbs energy in the form of electro– magnetic radiation. Sunlight is
> converted into electricity by this process in a solar cell. Just the
> opposite occurs in optical diodes, which convert electricity into light. *
>
> *So, electro magnetic radiation or visible light is produced when an
> electron (an electric monopole) lowers its orbit and releases its
> energy in the form of light. *
>
> *Now, I believe a similar event occurs in the extremely dense and hot
> matter found in black holes. It is theorized that black holes contain
> magnetic monopoles and when these extremely dense, extremely small,
> extremely energetic magnetic monopoles release energy by lowering
> their orbit they radiate magneto–electric radiation, our SuperLight.
> So black holes really are not so black. They are radiant beings of
> SuperLight. Of course SuperLight escapes the strong gravitation forces
> of the black holes because its velocity is the square of the velocity
> of light and it therefore, can easily escape._{7} *
>
> *The current scientific thinking is that in the center of every galaxy
> in the universe is a black hole. There are billions and billions of
> galaxies all around us, and they all are producing SuperLight. We are
> literally bathed in a three-dimensional dynamic energy field, or an
> "Ether" of SuperLight — a Dynamic Ether. *
>
> On 11/21/2018 5:44 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>  
>>
>> Norm,
>>
>> I think of the heart as an implosion biased pump also.
>>
>> Great stuff on the parametric pumps, so a variometer in theory could be
>> used in the same manner for flux pumping hmmm...
>>
>> I have to study the Hyde unit further.  When I first saw the concept
>> used in the super high output electrostatic machines my main thought was
>> it's a good way to begin to be able to use transfomers and pictured the
>> voltage change like a cap divider but did not understand how the gain in
>> coulombs would take place so thanks for the PDF's.
>>
>> Did you measure a power gain when using this device.
>>
>> Experimenting with the neutral spike, were you able to store in a cap
>> bank and if so did you notice a temp change one way or another with the
>> caps?
>>
>> On 11/21/2018 2:24 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>> > Hyde Device
>>
>

see: Effect of inelastic scattering on parametric pumping

On 11/21/2018 4:24 PM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>
> Mick! There is much more going on in the variable capacitor than meets 
> the eye!  A mechanical analog would be like a human heart for it moves 
> fluid (blood) by squeezing through valves. It in reality is an 
> electron pump in effect.  See: Resonance-assisted parametric electron 
> pump   See: Spin-polarized parametric pumping: Theory and numerical 
> results Ole has been discussing this parametric pumping action.
>
> On 11/21/2018 12:55 PM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>
>> See: Imbeded response.
>>
>> On 11/21/2018 12:43 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Norm,
>>>
>>> This is correct.   As you're proclaiming, in the end a magneto type 
>>> build may be a better solution than just hard switched coil banging 
>>> as it does seem to favor finesse over force allowing for more 
>>> control with fewer supporting parts.  First in order to study this 
>>> more in depth I have to make sure my batt system is properly 
>>> saturating the iron core to create the pure current potential vacuum 
>>> flux state.  Seems easier from the wall for some reason even though 
>>> there should be no diff in a DC charged cap of the same mFd charged 
>>> to the same V in the same time constant delivering a spike to 
>>> saturate a core.  Will stop trying to correlate the wall power diff 
>>> and move forward.
>>>
>>> That link has some interesting devices such as the vircator and some 
>>> good stuff on the pinch devices. It definitely conveys the concept 
>>> of total isolation and screw the source.
>>>
>>> On another subject, your electrostatic device induced me to think of 
>>> a motorized variometer and what odd functions it may allow for.
>>>
>>> When experimenting with your spinning variable cap what results did 
>>> you witness?  ( Due to the rapid change in capacitance value you 
>>> could realize by use of diodes to get a multiplication of potential 
>>> at output which was steered to accumulator capacitors just like Kone 
>>> is trying to do. I proved to me that the effect is real which is 
>>> what Ole and crew are discussing It was the basis for the Hyde 
>>> Device as seen on Rex Research page.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Mick
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/21/23:46 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Mick!  I see now that you are attempting to get a SOURCE that is 
>>>> isolated so that you may be able to sustain the EMP pulse event.  
>>>> Battery/ inverter set up.  If you use the EMP non nuclear device as 
>>>> an example you see that it is a one shot device since the long 
>>>> solenoid coil is progressively shorted by ultra high speed 
>>>> explosives while super saturated via capacitor discharge. See: 
>>>> https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/f20b/94c86b9620166bdb82556b5be93261c80c64.pdf 
>>>> All with device in total isolation from earth reference ground. 
>>>> Believe it or not, Tesla advocated this technique when he discussed 
>>>> taking pure iron into a state of super saturation (coil core) which 
>>>> Ole will attest to that the impedance drops to an air value.  Doug 
>>>> was hitting on this with his coil shorting routine.  The Hyde 
>>>> Generator was a variable capacitor machine and this is a variable 
>>>> inductance device.  Please read how the current is amplified in the 
>>>> MFCG.    In the Hyde generator, when the value of C is reduced 
>>>> there is a multiplication of the voltage (amplification). In the 
>>>> MFCG, when the value of L is taken to zero in a saturated state the 
>>>> current is multiplied (Amplification).   Thanks for you effort!   
>>>> You will get there when armed with knowledge as to how this all 
>>>> works!   Norm
>>>>
>>>> On 11/20/2018 7:23 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Norm,
>>>>>
>>>>> OK thanks back to the bench, need to check BH on the battery setup 
>>>>> again...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/20/2018 3:01 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I see that you still have not had your LIGHT COME ON YET.  You 
>>>>>> are dwelling on the source side of the circuit which is not the 
>>>>>> answer.  Simply put, you have to create the condition where you 
>>>>>> have a totally isolated charged inductor and charged capacitors 
>>>>>> (TOTALLY ISOLATED) from any ground reference.  Energy simply 
>>>>>> cannot vanish into empty space.   My 5 HP motor experiment 
>>>>>> accomplished the isolation condition and when the energy was 
>>>>>> annihilated, inductor energy & capacitor energy cancelled , I got 
>>>>>> the EMP response from the earth side of the circuit.  To hell 
>>>>>> with the source, for once the inductor is flux loaded, to 
>>>>>> saturation and capacitors are charged, then the source is totally 
>>>>>> out of the equation. Once that starting contactor opens the 
>>>>>> source is no longer a factor. In all of my trials with this, I 
>>>>>> have never seen any degrading or rupture of dielectric material 
>>>>>> nor damage to any wiring, no matter how small. The energy is in 
>>>>>> the form of a very high freq (RF event) with very high current 
>>>>>> but no damage to small appliance motors.  I lived in a Dallas 
>>>>>> neighborhood that had a power distribution sub station just down 
>>>>>> the street from me. Numerous times during lightning storms I had 
>>>>>> been awakened by my VHS VCR, old top loader, (turned off) tape 
>>>>>> mechanism start up and start to eject tape, get half way and 
>>>>>> reverse and put tape back down as before it started. Like a 1/2 
>>>>>> cycle operation.  This was sort of the same EMP neutral side 
>>>>>> surge which affected the tape drive mechanism.  People see the 
>>>>>> sort of thing but are not smart enough to question why they 
>>>>>> happen! Sorry to say that most of my experimentation was done on 
>>>>>> the KEELY BBS and was a closed group.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/20/2018 11:33 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Norm,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you for the in depth post of your experience uncovering 
>>>>>>> this event.  Sorry to frustrate you with what seem like 
>>>>>>> repetitive questions. Everything here is understood.  My 
>>>>>>> question had to do with the source side of the whole systemic 
>>>>>>> occurrence and not that I don't understand just that I like 
>>>>>>> things to be very succinct in my small brain, therefore I was 
>>>>>>> trying to map out the circuit including all E and B field 
>>>>>>> connections in order that for instance the ceiling fan 
>>>>>>> experiment be replicated from a battery inverter source without 
>>>>>>> connection to the utility.  In other words the DUH I brought up 
>>>>>>> the other week.  You have explained the phenomenon and it's 
>>>>>>> creation many times but seem to have left out the functions from 
>>>>>>> the source side of the circuit and how that interacts with the 
>>>>>>> whole experiment and magnetic connect-anniliation-reconnect.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have successfully replicated the shots to larger and smaller 
>>>>>>> scale while using the utility sourced power but not yet reliably 
>>>>>>> from an inverter driven isolated system so attempting to 
>>>>>>> determine the best way to move forward on the source side 
>>>>>>> without burning up any more devices or at least a minimum so.  I 
>>>>>>> think I need to procure an iso transformer with a center tap and 
>>>>>>> ground it on the sink side to the center tap in order there is 
>>>>>>> the magnetic connection to the earth on source side in the first 
>>>>>>> place not just the ground rod on the sink side of the 
>>>>>>> experiment. Otherwise part two will require a giant stepdown of 
>>>>>>> similar proportions to a pole pig.  Just trying to streamline 
>>>>>>> and keep expenses low.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I hope the above does not further frustrate you but rather 
>>>>>>> conveys the why of my question which I can see seemed to be 
>>>>>>> circular and puerile. Sorry to offend.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> By the way I don't know if you had posted this story before but 
>>>>>>> with Yahoo and search and all your references to the neutral 
>>>>>>> spike event I have never uncovered it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank again!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11/20/2018 6:58 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mick!  I am getting just like Hector here by having to explain 
>>>>>>>> something over and over!  I guess short memory is the cause for 
>>>>>>>> lack of understanding the whole project.   First you have to go 
>>>>>>>> back to the 1981 ceiling fan, 1/6th HP capacitor run shaded 
>>>>>>>> pole motor problem. A wiring error by a Chinese assembly worker 
>>>>>>>> incorrectly wired the capacitor reversing switch into the 
>>>>>>>> neutral side of the circuit which provided a total isolation of 
>>>>>>>> charge while the switch was in transition from forward 
>>>>>>>> operation  to reverse operation. Reversing switch would 
>>>>>>>> explode.  This was my first encounter with the phenomenon which 
>>>>>>>> I researched and determined that it was a Magneto-Electric 
>>>>>>>> effect or better put, Magnetic flux annihilation-reconnect as 
>>>>>>>> we now know it. In Physics we have always been taught that 
>>>>>>>> energy cannot be destroyed but can change forms as we clearly 
>>>>>>>> see by simple experiment. With this knowledge tucked back in 
>>>>>>>> the memory bank, I had the occasion to encounter this 
>>>>>>>> phenomenon again in around 1984. A wealthy widow had remodeled 
>>>>>>>> her expansive Highland Park home (Dallas) and I had installed a 
>>>>>>>> projection TV system into her den.   MS. Sharp called and said 
>>>>>>>> she had a Poltergeist in her den. When I arrived she served tea 
>>>>>>>> and told me to sit there and wait a few minutes.  The TV screen 
>>>>>>>> and projector both started descending from the ceiling then 
>>>>>>>> reversed and went back up.  Both these motors were shaded pole, 
>>>>>>>> capacitor run design so that switching via wall switch could 
>>>>>>>> reverse operation, either up or down against limit switches. 
>>>>>>>> Here is the Somfy motor example so you understand how they 
>>>>>>>> operate: 
>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMHEJ2iIu14&feature=youtu.be 
>>>>>>>> When I went into attic to examine the motorized units the 
>>>>>>>> phenomenon occurred again. Sure enough the screen and projector 
>>>>>>>> descended half way down then reversed and retracted. Over my 
>>>>>>>> head was a powered turbo ventilator attic fan of shaded pole 
>>>>>>>> design which took off ZIIIIINNNNG , super fast acceleration up 
>>>>>>>> to a speed about 10X design speed but one big problem was that 
>>>>>>>> it took off backwards! The turbine took several minutes to 
>>>>>>>> coast down to a stop.  A visit downstairs found that a small 
>>>>>>>> appliance like a counter top blender in the kitchen (shaded 
>>>>>>>> pole motor) would take off spinning backwards then stop.  The 
>>>>>>>> only connection that all these motor had when sitting in a 
>>>>>>>> turned off state was a connection to the neutral buss.   
>>>>>>>> Interesting fact was that with the very small size motor 
>>>>>>>> windings and sudden fantastic acceleration up to very high 
>>>>>>>> speed (backwards) did no damage to the motors. I did an 
>>>>>>>> inspection to the mains breakers and house wiring including the 
>>>>>>>> service cabelling and earth ground at the mains panel. All was 
>>>>>>>> up to Dallas Code. While walking in side yard, I found a brand 
>>>>>>>> new installation of a 5 ton A/C Condensing unit. in addition to 
>>>>>>>> the older 5 ton unit. Both units were earth bonded via the 
>>>>>>>> Required (Highland Park Code) 10 ft. ground rod at the units.  
>>>>>>>> Both units were 5  Ton, 230VAC single phase. While I was 
>>>>>>>> looking at the A/C units , the new one tried to start against a 
>>>>>>>> locked rotor condition. From contactor closure to WHUUUUUMP, 
>>>>>>>> EMP shot which you could feel the brissance in the ground took 
>>>>>>>> about 1/2 second. This was the source of the EMP event which 
>>>>>>>> caused the neutral buss to carry this very unusual form of 
>>>>>>>> energy.  The A/C guys came out and replaced the compressor and 
>>>>>>>> rectified the situation but I came away with a better 
>>>>>>>> understanding a very common phenomenon that most do not take 
>>>>>>>> time to fully understand nor appreciate the implications.   By 
>>>>>>>> studing the ongoing research of the natural occurrence of this 
>>>>>>>> EMP phenomenon from Solar magnetic storms Magnetic Annihilation 
>>>>>>>> -Reconnect which have been duplicated in Labs gathering better 
>>>>>>>> understanding of phenomenon. I elected to bench top duplicate 
>>>>>>>> the situation which I had observed back in 1984 at the Sharp 
>>>>>>>> residence.  Since I was doing HVAC, Electrical and Electronics 
>>>>>>>> Contracting, I had many compressors at my disposal just like 
>>>>>>>> the one in the Carrier A/C unit.    By hydraulic locking the 
>>>>>>>> compressor via filling with oil and pinching off the suction 
>>>>>>>> and discharge lines you have a fully locked up sealed unit See:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This unit utilizes a 40mfd start cap and a 5mfd run cap 
>>>>>>>> controlled by current relay.  When energized via 2 pole,230VAC, 
>>>>>>>> starter contactor, both the start and run windings are 
>>>>>>>> energized. When the Over current relay senses the locked rotor 
>>>>>>>> current of 84 amps ( motor in magnetic saturation) the circuit 
>>>>>>>> is opened leaving the stored energy in total isolation with no 
>>>>>>>> ground reference.  A NECESSARY CONDITION TO GET THE MAGNETIC 
>>>>>>>> FLUX ANNIHILATION-Re-CONNECT PHENOMENON or EMP.     This 
>>>>>>>> experiment is something anyone can duplicate and observe the 
>>>>>>>> phenomenon for yourself.  The reversible ceiling fan is the 
>>>>>>>> simplest and easiest and less expensive to replicate. Most 
>>>>>>>> current available reversible fans utilize the electrical 
>>>>>>>> capacitor relocation via toggle switch to reverse rotation.  
>>>>>>>> All you have to do is open up circuit and re-wire the cap so 
>>>>>>>> that you have a momentary loss of ground reference (neutral) 
>>>>>>>> while the reversing switch is in transit. Reverse it several 
>>>>>>>> times and you will explode switch!   Now Mick, what do you not 
>>>>>>>> understand??   I was just too curious to let this go by without 
>>>>>>>> finding an answer. Just remember the Axiom, Energy cannot be 
>>>>>>>> destroyed but it can change forms.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 11/19/2018 10:04 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Norm,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So why did you first notice this even at a clients, shorted 
>>>>>>>>> start cap or seized bearing?     Interesting I have noticed a 
>>>>>>>>> ground rod near pool equipment with GFI but rarely have seen 
>>>>>>>>> or can recall one next to a heat pump or AC unit and 10 feet 
>>>>>>>>> ground rod damn that's deeper than a dirt nap.  At 60hz the 
>>>>>>>>> capacitive coupling is negligible.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Unless I am misunderstanding something the L1-L2 at the supply 
>>>>>>>>> side... coupling to earth would still be at the transformer to 
>>>>>>>>> center tap neutral back at the pole then the neutral is ground 
>>>>>>>>> bonded at the service.  Since it is on the sink side of the 
>>>>>>>>> transformer from the utility there is a direct path to ground 
>>>>>>>>> through a certain impedance,reactance and reluctance whatever 
>>>>>>>>> importance that plays into the event.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 11/19/2018 4:44 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Locked means exactly what the term expresses! No rotor motion 
>>>>>>>>>> relative to stator!  On the early 5 Ton A/C units they were 
>>>>>>>>>> service wired with a 3 conductor wip from service disconnect 
>>>>>>>>>> to A/C unit! You had L-1 & L-2 230VAC (hots) and a green 
>>>>>>>>>> earth bonding wire to motor and chasis frame. In addition, 
>>>>>>>>>> you had a10 ft. ground stake into earth ground to bond this 
>>>>>>>>>> outdoor installation for safety reasons.    When over-current 
>>>>>>>>>> relay (84 amps) drops out starter contactor there is NO 
>>>>>>>>>> GROUND PATH to discipate the charge, both magbetic flux 
>>>>>>>>>> sayuration (Inductive power) and the two charged capacitors 
>>>>>>>>>> in the circuit.  This energy is in an isolated state due to 
>>>>>>>>>> insulation in the motor windings and capacitors. Ole will 
>>>>>>>>>> jump in here and say there is capacitive coupling between 
>>>>>>>>>> motor frame and isolated capacitance and magnetic flux at 
>>>>>>>>>> saturation.    I built and did the test on this phenomenon 
>>>>>>>>>> after I saw it in real life in a clients back yard.  Easy to 
>>>>>>>>>> duplicate!  The reversible ceiling fan trick can be done by 
>>>>>>>>>> anyone by just changing the wiring on the reversing capacitor 
>>>>>>>>>> in-order to float neutral while the reversing switch is in 
>>>>>>>>>> transition. Simple!   ( BOOM)!!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 11/18/2018 11:15 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Norm,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> How did you run the motor in locked mode, by preventing the 
>>>>>>>>>>> start cap from energizing?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> When you experimented with the energy from this motor where 
>>>>>>>>>>> did you extract the differential, from the green wire 
>>>>>>>>>>> running back to the service panel or another grounding rod 
>>>>>>>>>>> and from the motor frame where the ground bonding clip 
>>>>>>>>>>> usually is or somewhere else?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Assuming frame on your dual winding induction motor was 
>>>>>>>>>>> isolated sink side from the stator windings by their 
>>>>>>>>>>> insulation  as you mentioned earlier there was no neutral 
>>>>>>>>>>> and on the source side by the center tap in the pole pig?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Not sure why I was thinking locked was synchronous mode as 
>>>>>>>>>>> we discussed earlier the concept of Mag Transmitter is to 
>>>>>>>>>>> saturate the core and release, or as Hector likes to say 
>>>>>>>>>>> switch off to turn on.  Some major issues going on here, 
>>>>>>>>>>> head on backwards.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So impedance does opposite of a LC tank and dropped like a 
>>>>>>>>>>> series LC hmmm...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Mick
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/18/2018 3:44 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] 
>>>>>>>>>>> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks! Ole for the explanation! Rotation is required 
>>>>>>>>>>>> inorder for counter emf to be generated. In stalled rotor 
>>>>>>>>>>>> or locked rotor conditions, the current through the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> windings is only limited by R = resitance. My dual winding 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 5 HP motor in locked rotor had a combined current draw of 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 84 amps @ 230VAC input. When you look at the BH curve on a 
>>>>>>>>>>>> scope you see the magnetic flux build to saturation at 
>>>>>>>>>>>> which point the impedance is = to Zero ( air value) with R 
>>>>>>>>>>>> being the only limiting factor. (Ole). I used the dual 
>>>>>>>>>>>> winding motor for it has a starting cap value of 40mfd and 
>>>>>>>>>>>> a run cap with a value of 5 mfd, both of which are in 
>>>>>>>>>>>> circuit when current limiting relay drops circuit open 
>>>>>>>>>>>> yielding the Neutral Spike form ground.   Magneto Electric 
>>>>>>>>>>>> effect. For it to work, the caps and motor windings have to 
>>>>>>>>>>>> be isolated from neutral and earth ground reference. the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> iron motor frame is earth bonded. Cancellation of energy in 
>>>>>>>>>>>> isolation will create an EMP earth ground response.  This 
>>>>>>>>>>>> goes back to Page 25 of CSN by Tesla himself.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/17/2018 5:12 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Locked rotor is when the rotor is prevented from rotating. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is also known as stalled rotor.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Synchronous speed is when the rotor follows the rotating 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> magnetic wave(s) of the stator. In an induction motor 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (asynchronous motor) this means no power transmission 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> between the rotor and the stator. The motor is then 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> working neither as motor or generator.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Slip is the ratio between the rotor speed and the rotating 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> field speed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ole
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---In [email protected], <mkjekyll@...> wrote :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Norm,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am slowly digesting this but I think my concept of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> locked rotor was/is in error.  Always thought this was 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> when the rotor is locked to the rotational field from 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> stator with least amount of slip, seems like I am reading 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> now it is most amount of slip.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you provide what locked rotor means to you and any 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> additional information of what you think may be occurring 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> beyond the everyday accepted definition?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mick
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2018 5:55 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Mick, Ole, Kone etal!  I have been thinking a lot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     about my Locked Rotor experiments and did a lot of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     reading to come up with a fool proof Lenz free motor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     / generator combination which is so easy to build and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     proof test! First of all you should read what we know
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     as facts! See the following articles:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     https://www.motioncontroltips.com/faq-what-are-dc-shunt-motors-and-where-are-they-used/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     http://www.machineryspaces.com/direct-current-motors.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     https://www.quora.com/What-will-happen-if-the-back-EMF-of-a-DC-motor-vanishes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-FPcKgwSzs&feature=youtu.be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3TFALmHtMw&feature=youtu.be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     https://www.researchgate.net/post/A_DC_shunt_motor_is_running_at_light_load_what_happens_if_the_field_winding_gets_opened
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Kone loves to play with the very powerful Neos as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     found at K&G Magnetics and shown in the video of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Ray's LENZ free generator. What I will propose is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     very simple application of DC motor principles as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     read from the cited references. First you make your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     LENZ free  motor which is in reality a LINEAR MOTOR
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     (Solenoid) which will give the necessary stroke
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     length to drive the LINEAR generator (Coil
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     oscillating within the drag free, LENZ free area of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     the Neo magnets). Stroke of the solenoid is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     controlled by Hall sensor and IGBT drive switch to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     give an excursion rate (stroke) at a frequency of 60
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     HZ. By using a DC pulse  to drive the solenoid coil
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     it is tricked into being in LOCKED ROTOR condition,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     thus no LENZ effect.  Has the light come on yet??  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     We know that Ray's generator puts out a sine wave
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     output (AC) with no LENZ drag. Following the DC motor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     principles as applied to the solenoid driver, you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     have a motor that is LENZ free also. The combo should
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     give an Over-unity output. Now the tricky part!  We
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     know as Ole will agree in that when you switch the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     solenoid power to off state as magnetic flux is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     building toward saturation there will be a huge
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     voltage spike (Neutral Spike) which we have to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     capture and not send to ground as ordinary practice
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     in solid state switch design (snubber diodes)  The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     capture of the SPIKE energy (HV) which occurs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     naturally will be the over-unity factor here!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Interesting concept! Think about it!  Norm Mick!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     (accumulator HV caps)!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     On 11/16/2018 6:23 AM, Mick mkjekyll@...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     <mailto:mkjekyll@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Ole,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     I have had caps charge much faster in an LC tank
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     than otherwise, but it could also have to do with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     noise in the core material as I was no using an air
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     inductor.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     On 11/16/2018 1:19 AM, onielsen@...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     <mailto:onielsen@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Hi Mick,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     "If a reactive LC tank capacitor is then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     disconnected from the reactive source then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     discharged to a resistive load then reconnected
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     energized back to the standing wave modality
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     recharged disconnected discharged etc.  If the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     reactive energy is harvested in this manner are you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     claiming the same losses will occur as power factor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     correcting the reactive back into real power?"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Yes that's correct.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Common power factor correction in AC is for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     eliminating the reactive power that doesn't do any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     work but just heats the wires between the power
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     plant and the reactive load. This is expensive for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     the owners of the power transmission lines and thus
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     should be avoided. First storing the energy in a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     capacitor (or inductor or battery) and then dumping
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     it to an active load will still make the power go
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     in just one direction even though it happens in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     pulses. The energy is then moving from the source
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     to the load. Reactive power has the energy moving
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     to and from the load and power source. The power
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     moving between the capacitor and inductor in an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     LC-tank is pure reactive except for the loss
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     because of the parasitic resistance in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     components and wires.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Ole
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     ---In [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]>, <mkjekyll@...>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     <mailto:mkjekyll@...> wrote :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Ole,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Disregarding the issue at hand with the patent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     terminology and not concerning ourselves with the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     patent just a very high Q tank.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     If a reactive LC tank capacitor is then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     disconnected from the reactive source then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     discharged to a resistive load then reconnected
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     energized back to the standing wave modality
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     recharged disconnected discharged etc.  If the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     reactive energy is harvested in this manner are you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     claiming the same losses will occur as power factor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     correcting the reactive back into real power?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     On 11/15/2018 5:36 PM, onielsen@...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     <mailto:onielsen@...> [EVGRAY] wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         I have only read to the following paragraph
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         cited below. I wonder if the applicant knows
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         about what he is writing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Citing paragraph 106 of the patent application
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         (https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/53/7d/29/f7b4bd0194992d/US20070296373A1.pdf):
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         "[0106] There is voltage across the inductor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         connected in series to the capacitor and there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         is voltage across the inductor connected in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         parallel to the capacitor. Since
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Power=voltage×current, a single power input
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         produces two branches of electromagnetic power
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         output, increasing the power output. In the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         alternative, the present disclosure may have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         one electromagnetic power output with less
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         energy input."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         It isn't as simple as this. If using an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         oscilloscope for measuring the current and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         voltage it will show some phase displacement
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         between the current and voltage which means
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         reactive power. Look at the following small
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         videos to see how one can be misled if not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         knowing how the phase between the current and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         voltage is: Only the the resistive part
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         consumes (transforms) energy like R in figure 8.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         0:42
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJEZMCCBV3U>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               Overunity Device Cop 2,5 ? explanation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               part 3.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJEZMCCBV3U>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         9.5K views5 years ago
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         1:01
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jamj3-2w0eE>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               Overunity Device Cop 2,5 ? explanation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               part 2.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jamj3-2w0eE>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         10K views5 years ago
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>

Scope isolation problems?You just need to see a changing voltage?
Make a probe jig with a HV film or mica capacitor in line
You will kill yourself floating the equipment.Lots of transient protect circuits in there, HV sneeks around the 10meg iso. and to protect warranty
I always just use 3 to 2 line adapter the fucking ground screws around with testing.Also I found everything now has a 2X cap. between line and DC side at least!

Think a man using  such high tech equip. has enough knowledge we need a ground for safety? haha

    On Saturday, November 3, 2018, 4:54:43 PM CDT, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:  
 
     
 

Norm,
 
Thanks for that.
 
 
I love Mr Calrsons lab, I could happily live there for quite awhile with all that awesome vintage gear.  I have seen isolation transformers wired like that and it's so insane but I am used to testing all the grounding points.  When building a recording studio we have to float all the grounds so they are single point at the service panel and not looped anywhere else.  Often they are lifted at the outlet j-box due to the lack of control in a prewired building.  Ironically we also used to use autoformers for all of the light dimmers to prevent noise, so we often referred to the variacs as light dimmers.
 
I still don't completely trust a scope on an isolation transformer even if the ground is properly isolated/ lifted due to the somewhat rare magnetic emp events we are talking about like when I kicked off all my ground faults in the house through one.
 
 
 On 11/3/2018 2:03 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
 
 
Mick! Here is a helpful video regarding scopes and isolation transformers on the test bench!
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBsQ3sZ45Fk&feature=youtu.be
 
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaELqAo4kkQ
 
 
 On 11/3/2018 12:36 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
 
 
Norm,
 
Thanks for the nudge in the right direction.  Now the process demands repeating with a totally isolated battery source configured the same way.   Funny how I was concentrating on isolating and connecting saturated inductive charge without the first magnetic variable taken into account.
 
 
I have had no problem creating the event with my grid power source and even warned Sven that an isolation transformer will not always protect his scope when messing around with this energy.  My scope probe sitting on a bench shot me in the leg when I walked by when performing the experiments from my bench supply.  The bench supply has an isolation transformer of sorts. Being it is torroidal there is more inter-winding capacitive coupling and mutual inductance than with the proper EI transformer though there is at least the electrostatic shield and galvanic isolation.
 
 
Thanks for that reference. the Brit guy was funny, although I'm very familiar with iso transformers in audio work used for galvanic isolation and balancing to eliminate common mode noise. 
 
 
 On 11/3/2018 4:42 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
 
 
Mick!     Your DUH reference is funny!   To understand Isolation, best to study and understand the Isolation Transformer.   The super high quality ones are built to eliminate noise and DC components that effect sensitive instruments like  EEG and EKG instruments. This will give you an idea as to construction and purpose:: 
 
 
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isolation_transformer
 
A little tutorial as to how they work!
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfzy5IQMzyc&feature=youtu.be
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14kPQif9P7c&feature=youtu.be
 
https://toroid.com/Products/Medical-Isolation-Transformers
 
The 230VAC, 5 HP locked rotor experiment was an example of electrically isolated electrical circuitry when mains contactor was opened since there was no neutral involve. There is magnetic and capacitive coup[ling only   The dielectric insulation was not compromised therefore no electrical connection.  The Chinese motor experiment was isolated, (electrically) when the reversing action was in transient. (Floating neutral) since there is a line neutral in the 120VAC input.
 
 
 On 11/2/2018 2:44 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
Norm,
 
 Since you have performed mass research on this event would you concur
 with my long distance observation that the event is not only due to
 charge isolation but inclusive of a magnetic connection from source in
 addition to the saturated and lifted inductive load?
 
 Your bell buzzer and bell transformer acting as an isolation transformer.
 
 Both motor experiments, the small Emerson type and the HVAC unit with
 only two hot's no neutral, must have been powered by an isolation
 transformer of some type also such as the utility step down for the
 neighborhood or dedicated delta or wye for commercial or even acted as
 such from the dual windings of the HVAC motor.
 
 Have you reliably produced the NS from any type of isolated battery
 system, or in all such cases was there a magnetic connection to an earth
 bonding in another spot?
 
 My thoughts being one side of a transformer acting as a source is
 grounded and the secondary side isolated so that the only conceivable
 ground bonding on the sink might be considered as magnetic aside from
 the bonded motor frame or what not producing the reconnection.
 
 I may be pissing up a rope notwithstanding the NS seems to be predicated
 on a B field connection somewhere in the source feed though the neutral
 is isolated electrically.
 
 Perhaps this is a simple "Duh" to you that you had already figured out
 assuming everyone else at least this smart.  Either way it does create
 an interesting position in which to view 3 phase and transformers with
 an extra resonant winding.
 
 By the way, ironic your implication that the large medical isolation
 transformers create a heretofore unknown vector of extreme danger.
 
 Mick
 
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
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Have anyone seen the youtube posters boasting about 1,700 dollars audiophile patch cables they claim that sound so great?I can't see needing them after spending all the money on the other fine components.
Does it have impedance variations? does it look sound? that's all one needs.Ferrites and shielded cables and gold are all one needs!  silver for RF helps too.

If you wanna test a transformer run audio through it to speakers and listen to the crossover and un-linearness.
side note: Remember the Fogal transistor??? Claims of FTL and holographic sound images.Place a ceramic cap. across the junction and have many of same in parallel.


    On Saturday, November 3, 2018, 7:55:51 PM CDT, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:  
 
     
 

Norm,
 
The interconnects used for home audio should be illegal for bad sound, but even a properly designed mic cable with an XLR on each end with a hot a cold and a shield one will notice only on female side the shield connects to the chassis of the connector.  It is a single shield run on #1 to both sides though as the connections are designed balanced for just the reason you mentioned.
 
 
XLR's are the best connector for long run connections but I make my own cable with silver plated aircraft cable with teflon insulation, a pain to work with but sound is great.
 
For short single ended runs the RCA end sucks and it should have been BNC or the extra small microwave connectors that look like mini BNC's  If one removes the RCA connectors and replaces with BNC and high quality aircraft cable and the rest of the gear is good enough one will notice the difference.  Networking cable Cat 5 or 6 can also sound great as speaker cable.
 
The story gets worse though as the old tube guitar amp had a switch that would toggle chassis ground between either connector on the power connection for the purpose of preventing ground loops when some live show venue had the outlets wired with hot and neutral reversed.  Well when that guitarist also happens to be a vocalist and touched a mic stand with the ground switched wrong it was not pretty if the shield was run to both chassis of the connectors.  This was an old soundman trick to get back at the rude ego asshole guitar players using the special fully grounded mic cable.  I am sure some people died from this prank where 220 was used.
 
 
 On 11/3/2018 4:46 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote: 
  
    
 
 
Mick!  Just had to laugh at your remark about floating grounds in the recording studio!  Ha! Ha!  Way back when I was learning about fine audio, I ran a shielded line level audio cable to hook two sound systems together, about 100 ft run.  When I turned on the systems and selected line in on the 2nd system, I had the prettiest motor boat you ever heard!  Lol  Yep! I had grounded both ends of a shielded cable and got a good example of a ground loop!
 
 
 On 11/3/2018 4:54 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
 
 
Norm,
 
Thanks for that.
 
 
I love Mr Calrsons lab, I could happily live there for quite awhile with all that awesome vintage gear.  I have seen isolation transformers wired like that and it's so insane but I am used to testing all the grounding points.  When building a recording studio we have to float all the grounds so they are single point at the service panel and not looped anywhere else.  Often they are lifted at the outlet j-box due to the lack of control in a prewired building.  Ironically we also used to use autoformers for all of the light dimmers to prevent noise, so we often referred to the variacs as light dimmers.
 
I still don't completely trust a scope on an isolation transformer even if the ground is properly isolated/ lifted due to the somewhat rare magnetic emp events we are talking about like when I kicked off all my ground faults in the house through one.
 
 
 On 11/3/2018 2:03 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
 
 
Mick! Here is a helpful video regarding scopes and isolation transformers on the test bench!
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBsQ3sZ45Fk&feature=youtu.be
 
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaELqAo4kkQ
 
 
 On 11/3/2018 12:36 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
 
 
Norm,
 
Thanks for the nudge in the right direction.  Now the process demands repeating with a totally isolated battery source configured the same way.   Funny how I was concentrating on isolating and connecting saturated inductive charge without the first magnetic variable  taken into account.
 
 
I have had no problem creating the event with my grid power source and even warned Sven that an isolation transformer will not always protect his scope when messing around with this energy.  My scope probe sitting on a bench shot me in the leg when I walked by when performing the experiments from my bench  supply.  The bench supply has an isolation transformer of sorts. Being it is torroidal there is more inter-winding capacitive  coupling and mutual inductance than with the proper EI transformer though there is at least the electrostatic shield and galvanic isolation.
 
 
Thanks for that reference. the Brit guy was funny, although I'm very familiar with iso transformers in audio work used for galvanic isolation and balancing to eliminate common mode noise. 
 
 
 On 11/3/2018 4:42 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
 
 
Mick!     Your DUH reference is funny!   To understand Isolation, best to study and understand the Isolation Transformer.   The super high quality ones are built to eliminate noise and DC components that effect sensitive instruments like EEG and EKG instruments. This will give you an idea as to construction and purpose:: 
 
 
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isolation_transformer
 
A little tutorial as to how they work!
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfzy5IQMzyc&feature=youtu.be
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14kPQif9P7c&feature=youtu.be
 
https://toroid.com/Products/Medical-Isolation-Transformers
 
The 230VAC, 5 HP locked rotor experiment was an example of electrically isolated electrical circuitry when mains contactor was opened since there was no neutral involve. There is magnetic and capacitive coup[ling only   The dielectric insulation was not compromised therefore no electrical connection.  The Chinese motor experiment was isolated, (electrically) when the reversing action was in  transient. (Floating neutral) since there is a line neutral in the 120VAC input.
 
 
 On 11/2/2018 2:44 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
Norm,
 
 Since you have performed mass research on this event would you concur
 with my long distance observation that the event is not only due to
 charge isolation but inclusive of a magnetic connection from source in
 addition to the saturated and lifted inductive load?
 
 Your bell buzzer and bell transformer acting as an isolation transformer.
 
 Both motor experiments, the small Emerson type and the HVAC unit with
 only two hot's no neutral, must have been powered by an isolation
 transformer of some type also such as the utility step down for the
 neighborhood or dedicated delta or wye for commercial or even acted as
 such from the dual windings of the HVAC motor.
 
 Have you reliably produced the NS from any type of isolated battery
 system, or in all such cases was there a magnetic connection to an earth
 bonding in another spot?
 
 My thoughts being one side of a transformer acting as a source is
 grounded and the secondary side isolated so that the only conceivable
 ground bonding on the sink might be considered as magnetic aside from
 the bonded motor frame or what not producing the reconnection.
 
 I may be pissing up a rope notwithstanding the NS seems to be predicated
 on a B field connection somewhere in the source feed though the neutral
 is isolated electrically.
 
 Perhaps this is a simple "Duh" to you that you had already figured out
 assuming everyone else at least this smart.  Either way it does create
 an interesting position in which to view 3 phase and transformers with
 an extra resonant winding.
 
 By the way, ironic your implication that the large medical isolation
 transformers create a heretofore unknown vector of extreme danger.
 
 Mick
 
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
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Happy holiday men.USA Thankgivings from you for giving away all your freedom, health and labor. haha
Is Lava escaping in the Californication State?

    On Thursday, November 15, 2018, 6:02:57 AM CST, [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:  
 
     
Hello to all those interested, I have now built a push-pull inverter for the transverter anti-drive to drive it. From 37 Hz 650Hz is fully adjustable and the pulse width.
A simple square wave signal is generated and sent. It works wonderfully. The interference is a problem when switching 350V peaks. I have now wrapped all power lines with aluminum foil and this one-sided grounded. The boards I will install in an aluminum housing and also this ground, the disturbances are almost all gone. By shielding, the energy is no longer emitted and remains in the lines apparently, since the shielding, the high-power mosfets are very hot although they are used at most 10%. The cut-off voltage at the drain increases in the kilovolt range when the transverter is connected. The complete line to Transverter is also shielded. I now wanted to build an Energy Recovery Snubber to recycle that energy. First test show that you can drive the transverter so much more efficient. I have to build this inverter even more reliable or change.
Best regards
Sven
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On this Thanksgivings Day, a little note of humor!

Back in 1971, while attending the Ordnance Officer Advanced Course at 
Aberdeen Proving Grounds, MD we were touring via bus the Letterkenny 
Army Depot at Chambersburg, PA. When the bus turned the corner in the 
town we were greeted by a huge billboard over the KFC with the Old 
Colonel depicted with a chicken leg in hand. The caption read, COME IN 
AND BITE MY BIRD. The whole bus erupted in laughter.  Wishing my friends 
a Happy Thanksgivings.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letterkenny_Army_Depot

On 11/21/2018 10:55 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Norm,
>
> OK now I can see another reason why you like page 25 so much.
>
> Light can be captured and stored in a bottle of sorts with phase 
> conjugate mirrors, how long is debatable and very expensive to find 
> out but the time constant compared to wavelength is as molasses .  
> Funny that I almost added at the end of my last post many years from 
> now if sapiens are still here and have not degenerated and continued 
> to mature technically, the light perhaps from a high power flashlight 
> now will be somehow turned into sizable power.
>
> But you're right this gets into theoretical quantum tunneling stuff 
> that if in existence is probably at the lowest story of a NORAD 
> equivalent or some such.
>
> Or ask Hector he claims he can slow down light so may have thought of 
> a way to capture the event directly by slowing it down and suctioning 
> off the heat, rf or mag flux.
>
> So I guess if we cannot capture it directly then we can only achieve 
> practical use by way of some indirect action caused by interference 
> such as how radioactive isotopes may function from this black hole 
> spewage.  Interesting how the high energy isotopes are so dense...
>
> On 11/21/2018 6:53 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>> Mick!  First of all I did not explore the Hyde type device far enough 
>> to glean any power gain from it. I just observed that it was sort of 
>> an electron pump using positive displacement like operation. When the 
>> capacitance value would go down the electrons flowed past the diodes 
>> at higher potential. My unit only varied by a value of about 20ufd 
>> turning at around 1,000 RPM. Real low freq.    Your second question 
>> require me to say Houston, We have a problem. No one yet has been 
>> able to capture an EMP event and store it in any kind of capacitor. I 
>> started a folder on the EVGRAY TWO site titled Ferroresonance 
>> Capture. It was under Norm's Research. I wanted to determine if this 
>> event can be captured since it happens so fast and at ultra high 
>> frequencies which I believe as in the Superlight doc. is above cosmic 
>> ray frequencies in the electromagnetic spectrum.  Just how do you 
>> propose to capture an A/C (really super high RF) pulse without first 
>> rectifying it to a DC component????? I do not know of any device that 
>> can capture and store ultra, ultra high freq RF.  Can you capture 
>> light frequencies and store them in a bottle???  You are attempting 
>> to store something a million times higher in freq than light.
>>
>> See:
>>
>> *WHAT IS SUPERLIGHT ?*
>>
>> *By:Dr. John Mileweski***
>>
>> *SuperLight is magnetic light; it is **magneto–electric radiation**. *
>>
>> *Regular light is electric light or **electro–magnetic radiation**. 
>> There is parity or symmetry the Universe, everything has an equal and 
>> opposite mirror–image counterpart, the Ying and the Yang, right and 
>> left, matter and anti matter, the electron and the positron. Why not 
>> light? *
>>
>> *Both science and metaphysics have honored this parity law in all 
>> things except light. They are wrong. **  There is parity in light as 
>> well ! *
>>
>> *I will now explain and give you more detail. *
>>
>> *SuperLight is the unseen force in nature that has been ignored by 
>> science but real to the mystics and metaphysicians for thousands of 
>> years. It has been given different names by different cultures for 
>> thousands of years. *
>>
>> *A Nuous, Chi, Biomagnetic Energy, Wilhelm Reich's Orgone Energy, 
>> Tesler's Free Earth Energy, Animal Magnetism, Space Energy, Vacuum 
>> Energy, and Zero Point Energy, etc. Those who have subtle perception 
>> know it is real. *
>>
>> *SuperLight was identified scientifically over 100 years ago when 
>> James Clerk Maxwell <http://www.hbci.com/%7Ewenonah/new/report.htm> 
>> solved his famous wave equation. This occurred shortly after radio 
>> was invented by Nikola Tesla 
>> <http://www.hbci.com/%7Ewenonah/new/tesla.htm>, and theoretical 
>> physicists tried to find a mathematical model to explain radio waves. 
>> When using positive numbers in Maxwell's Equations this explains 
>> radio waves and also all forms of electro–magnetic radiation such as 
>> light, radio, TV, microwaves, x–rays, etc. What his equation also 
>> explains 100 years ago was SuperLight but because it was the solution 
>> that comes from the use of negative numbers, **"this second 
>> solution"**was ignored for over 100 years. Remember when you were 
>> taught algebra and were told to ignore imaginary numbers (e.g. The 
>> square root of –1) because they have no meaning in this world. Well, 
>> times have changed and now we have a very valid second solution to 
>> Maxwell's equation and it is SuperLight. *
>>
>> *In the mid 70's a scientist, Dr. William Tiller, at Stanford 
>> University took another look at Maxwell's equation and asked; "What 
>> does this second solution explain when interpreted in our world."_{1} *
>>
>> *To understand this second solution, we must first review what the 
>> first or positive solution explains. The first solution is as 
>> follows: Radio waves leave the antenna and radiate out into space 
>> from a point source (the antenna) equally in all directions into 
>> space toward infinity traveling at the speed of light. The wave is 
>> composed of a large electrical component and a small magnetic 
>> component 90 degrees to the electrical component. Thus named, 
>> electro–magnetic radiation. *
>>
>> *The second solution describes a particle wave of just the opposite 
>> structure. It explains that **from infinity traveling toward the 
>> point source from all directions radiates SuperLight**. This new 
>> radiation is composed of a large magnetic component and a small 
>> electrical component, thus the name, magneto–electric radiation. When 
>> the equations are looked at more closely, one finds that 
>> **"SuperLight" travels at the speed of light squared !**  10^20 
>> meters per second,   or 10 billion times faster than light 
>> <http://www.hbci.com/%7Ewenonah/new/gravity2.htm>. *
>>
>> *It has a frequency 10 billion times higher, and has a corresponding, 
>> shorter wavelength.   It therefore has a higher energy density. *
>>
>> *The question one asks immediately is, "if it is so powerful, how 
>> come we do not feel it, or how come it is not detected 
>> scientifically?"   Well, the frequency is so high, its wave length so 
>> short, (4 x 10^–8 nano–meters, or 4 x 10^–17 meters), its velocity so 
>> fast, that it goes through everything as though the substance was 
>> nearly completely transparent (like glass). *
>>
>> *We can say the higher frequency is completely penetrating like 
>> x–rays, but even more so. More information, regarding the relative 
>> size, will be given later. *
>>
>> *WHERE DOES SUPERLIGHT COME FROM ?***
>>
>> *It comes out of black holes !***
>>
>> *First, I will describe how regular light is formed and then make the 
>> analogy for SuperLight. *
>>
>> *Regular electro–magnetic radiation or light is formed when electric 
>> monopoles give off energy. The electron in orbit about our atoms is 
>> an electric monopole — as it changes its' orbit it either gives off 
>> or absorbs energy in the form of electro– magnetic radiation. 
>> Sunlight is converted into electricity by this process in a solar 
>> cell. Just the opposite occurs in optical diodes, which convert 
>> electricity into light. *
>>
>> *So, electro magnetic radiation or visible light is produced when an 
>> electron (an electric monopole) lowers its orbit and releases its 
>> energy in the form of light. *
>>
>> *Now, I believe a similar event occurs in the extremely dense and hot 
>> matter found in black holes. It is theorized that black holes contain 
>> magnetic monopoles and when these extremely dense, extremely small, 
>> extremely energetic magnetic monopoles release energy by lowering 
>> their orbit they radiate magneto–electric radiation, our SuperLight. 
>> So black holes really are not so black. They are radiant beings of 
>> SuperLight. Of course SuperLight escapes the strong gravitation 
>> forces of the black holes because its velocity is the square of the 
>> velocity of light and it therefore, can easily escape._{7} *
>>
>> *The current scientific thinking is that in the center of every 
>> galaxy in the universe is a black hole. There are billions and 
>> billions of galaxies all around us, and they all are producing 
>> SuperLight. We are literally bathed in a three-dimensional dynamic 
>> energy field, or an "Ether" of SuperLight — a Dynamic Ether. *
>>
>> On 11/21/2018 5:44 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>> Norm,
>>>
>>> I think of the heart as an implosion biased pump also.
>>>
>>> Great stuff on the parametric pumps, so a variometer in theory could be
>>> used in the same manner for flux pumping hmmm...
>>>
>>> I have to study the Hyde unit further.  When I first saw the concept
>>> used in the super high output electrostatic machines my main thought was
>>> it's a good way to begin to be able to use transfomers and pictured the
>>> voltage change like a cap divider but did not understand how the gain in
>>> coulombs would take place so thanks for the PDF's.
>>>
>>> Did you measure a power gain when using this device.
>>>
>>> Experimenting with the neutral spike, were you able to store in a cap
>>> bank and if so did you notice a temp change one way or another with the
>>> caps?
>>>
>>> On 11/21/2018 2:24 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>> > Hyde Device
>>>
>

yes XLR is a musicians best friend.iv been a audio fanatic forever!

    On Wednesday, November 21, 2018, 10:28:17 PM CST, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:  
 
     
 

Dave,
 
Cables do make a big diff but anyone who spends more than a few hundred has more money than brains, silver sounds the best and teflon makes great insulation.  If you have great components simply buy some .999 silver wire for jewelry and make your own cables.  Single strand the smaller OD the better.
 
Gold is only used on connectors because it does not oxidize, copper is a better connector.  The rhodium often used for the plating process sounds not so nice.  Silver connectors are best and silver oxide is still highly conductive.  Silver is only a problem in polluted areas with high amounts of sulfur dioxide mixing with oxygen and creating a sulfide, the silver sulfide does not conduct well. 
 
 
Transformers and audio are a whole another science and properly designed ones like Jensen or Llundahl are extremely transparent and much better than differential op amps for galvanic isolation on balanced lines.
 
I have little respect for most of the high end gear and cables sold to audiophools.
 
Yes everyone have a good holiday season!!!
 
 On 11/21/2018 7:57 PM, Dave Muckerman [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
     Have anyone seen the youtube posters boasting about 1,700 dollars audiophile patch cables they claim that sound so great? I can't see needing them after spending all the money on the other fine components. 
  Does it have impedance variations? does it look sound? that's all one needs. Ferrites and shielded cables and gold are all one needs!  silver for RF helps too.
  
  If you wanna test a transformer run audio through it to speakers and listen to the crossover and un-linearness. 
  side note: Remember the Fogal transistor??? Claims of FTL and holographic sound images. Place a ceramic cap. across the junction and have many of same in parallel.
  
  
      On Saturday, November 3, 2018, 7:55:51 PM CDT, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:  
  
          
 
 
Norm,
 
The interconnects used for home audio should be illegal for bad sound, but even a properly designed mic cable with an XLR on each end with a hot a cold and a shield one will notice only on female side the shield connects to the chassis of the connector.  It is a single shield run on #1 to both sides though as the connections are designed balanced for just the reason  you mentioned.
 
 
XLR's are the best connector for long run connections but I make my own cable with silver plated aircraft cable with teflon insulation, a pain to work with but sound is great.
 
For short single ended runs the RCA end sucks and it should have been BNC or the extra small microwave connectors that look like mini BNC's  If one removes the RCA connectors and replaces with BNC and high quality aircraft cable and the rest of the  gear is good enough one will notice the difference.  Networking cable Cat 5 or 6 can also sound great as speaker cable.
 
The story gets worse though as the old tube guitar amp had a switch that would toggle chassis ground between either  connector on the power connection for the purpose of preventing ground loops when some live show venue had the outlets wired with hot and neutral reversed.  Well when that guitarist also happens to be a vocalist and touched a mic stand with the ground switched wrong it was not pretty if the shield was run to both chassis of the connectors.  This was an old soundman trick to get back at the rude ego asshole guitar players using the special fully  grounded mic cable.  I am sure some people died from this prank where 220 was used.
 
 
  On 11/3/2018 4:46 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote: 
  
    
 
 
Mick!  Just had to laugh at your remark about floating grounds in the recording studio!  Ha! Ha!  Way back when I was learning about fine audio, I ran a shielded line level  audio cable to hook two sound systems together, about 100 ft run.  When I turned on the systems and selected line in on the 2nd system, I had the prettiest motor boat you ever heard!  Lol  Yep! I had grounded both ends of a shielded cable and got a good example of a  ground loop!
 
 
 On 11/3/2018 4:54 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
 
 
Norm,
 
Thanks for that.
 
 
I love Mr Calrsons lab, I could happily live there for quite awhile with all that awesome  vintage gear.  I have seen isolation transformers wired like that and it's so insane but  I am used to testing all the grounding points.  When building a recording studio we have to float all the grounds so they  are single point at the service panel and not looped anywhere else.  Often they are lifted at the outlet j-box due to the lack of control in a prewired  building.  Ironically we also used to use autoformers for all of the light dimmers to prevent  noise, so we often referred to the variacs as light dimmers.
 
I still don't completely trust a scope on an isolation transformer even if the ground  is properly isolated/ lifted due to the somewhat rare magnetic emp events we are talking about like when I kicked off all my ground faults in the house  through one.
 
 
 On 11/3/2018 2:03 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
 
 
Mick! Here is a helpful video regarding scopes and isolation transformers on  the test bench!
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBsQ3sZ45Fk&feature=youtu.be
 
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaELqAo4kkQ
 
 
 On 11/3/2018 12:36 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
 
 
Norm,
 
Thanks for the nudge in the right direction.  Now the process demands repeating with a totally  isolated battery source configured the same way.   Funny how I was concentrating on isolating and connecting  saturated inductive charge without the first magnetic variable taken into account.
 
 
I have had no problem creating the event with my grid power source and  even warned Sven that an isolation transformer will not always protect his scope when messing around with this  energy.  My scope probe sitting on a bench shot me in the leg when I  walked by when performing the experiments from my  bench supply.  The bench supply has an isolation transformer of sorts.  Being it is torroidal there is more inter-winding capacitive  coupling and mutual inductance than with the  proper EI transformer though there is at least the electrostatic shield  and galvanic isolation.
 
 
Thanks for that reference. the Brit guy was funny, although I'm  very familiar with iso transformers in audio work used for galvanic isolation and balancing to eliminate common mode  noise. 
 
 
 On 11/3/2018 4:42 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
 
 
Mick!     Your DUH reference is funny!   To understand Isolation, best to  study and understand the Isolation Transformer.   The super high quality ones are built to  eliminate noise and DC components that effect sensitive  instruments like EEG and EKG instruments.  This will give you an idea as to construction and  purpose:: 
 
 
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isolation_transformer
 
A little tutorial as to how they work!
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfzy5IQMzyc&feature=youtu.be
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14kPQif9P7c&feature=youtu.be
 
https://toroid.com/Products/Medical-Isolation-Transformers
 
The 230VAC, 5 HP locked rotor experiment was an  example of electrically isolated electrical  circuitry when mains contactor was opened  since there was no neutral involve. There is magnetic  and capacitive coup[ling only   The dielectric insulation was not  compromised therefore no electrical  connection.  The Chinese motor experiment was  isolated, (electrically) when the reversing action  was in transient. (Floating neutral) since there is a line neutral in the 120VAC input.
 
 
 On 11/2/2018 2:44 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
Norm,
 
 Since you have performed mass  research on this event would you concur
 with my long distance  observation that the event is not only due to
 charge isolation but inclusive of  a magnetic connection from source in
 addition to the saturated and  lifted inductive load?
 
 Your bell buzzer and bell  transformer acting as an isolation  transformer.
 
 Both motor experiments, the  small Emerson type and the HVAC unit with
 only two hot's no neutral, must  have been powered by an isolation
 transformer of some type also  such as the utility step down for the
 neighborhood or dedicated delta  or wye for commercial or even acted as
 such from the dual windings of  the HVAC motor.
 
 Have you reliably  produced the NS from any type of isolated battery
 system, or in all such cases  was there a magnetic connection to an  earth
 bonding in another spot?
 
 My thoughts being one side  of a transformer acting as a source is
 grounded and the secondary side  isolated so that the only conceivable
 ground bonding on the sink  might be considered as magnetic aside  from
 the bonded motor frame or what  not producing the reconnection.
 
 I may be pissing up a rope  notwithstanding the NS seems to be predicated
 on a B field connection  somewhere in the source feed though the  neutral
 is isolated electrically.
 
 Perhaps this is a simple "Duh"  to you that you had already figured out
 assuming everyone else at  least this smart.  Either way it does create
 an interesting position in  which to view 3 phase and transformers  with
 an extra resonant  winding.
 
 By the way, ironic your  implication that the large medical  isolation
 transformers create a  heretofore unknown vector of extreme  danger.
 
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Norm,
Very good info about the EMP.  I've had quite a few experiences with it over the years. The last one was with a refrigeration unit being installed by other contractors in a supermarket food store and it blew up the lightning protection unit in the main Switchboard.  We got the blame and we could not convince the owner otherwise and he didn't want to pay for our work of installing the lightning protection unit. Most times it has happened in my experiences has been associated with refrigeration and air conditioning systems.  I did see something unusual with large motors in an off mode turning backwards in a brick-works when the metal detector stopped the motors of the feeding conveyors into the pan mixer. You do see some weird things sometimes and you go away scratching your head.
George

    On Wednesday, 21 November 2018, 3:21:33 am AEDT, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:  
 
     
 

Mick!  I am getting just like Hector here by having to explain something over and over!  I guess short memory is the cause for lack of understanding the whole project.   First you have to go back to the 1981 ceiling fan, 1/6th HP capacitor run shaded pole motor problem. A wiring error by a Chinese assembly worker incorrectly wired the capacitor reversing switch into the neutral side of the circuit which provided a total isolation of charge while the switch was in transition from forward operation  to reverse operation. Reversing switch would explode.  This was my first encounter with the phenomenon which I researched and determined that it was a Magneto-Electric effect or better put, Magnetic flux annihilation-reconnect as we now know it. In Physics we have always been taught that energy cannot be destroyed but can change forms as we clearly see by simple experiment. With this knowledge tucked back in the memory bank, I had the occasion to encounter this phenomenon again in around 1984. A wealthy widow had remodeled her expansive Highland Park home (Dallas) and I had installed a projection TV system into her den.   MS. Sharp called and said  she had a Poltergeist in her den. When I arrived she served tea and told me to sit there and wait a few minutes.  The TV screen and projector both started descending from the ceiling then reversed and went back up.  Both these motors were shaded pole, capacitor run design so that switching via wall switch could reverse operation, either up or down against limit switches. Here  is the Somfy motor example so you understand how they operate:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMHEJ2iIu14&feature=youtu.be      When I went into attic to examine the motorized units the phenomenon occurred again. Sure enough the screen and projector descended half way down then reversed and retracted. Over my head was a powered turbo ventilator attic fan of shaded pole design which took off ZIIIIINNNNG , super fast acceleration up to a speed about 10X design speed but one big problem was that it took off backwards! The turbine took several minutes to coast down to a stop.  A visit downstairs found that a small appliance like a counter top blender in the kitchen (shaded pole motor) would take off spinning backwards then stop.  The only connection that all these motor had when sitting in a turned off state was a connection to the neutral buss.   Interesting fact was that with the very small size motor windings and sudden fantastic acceleration up to very high speed (backwards) did no damage to the motors. I did an inspection to the mains breakers and house wiring including the service cabelling and earth ground at the mains panel. All was up to Dallas Code. While walking in side yard, I found a brand new installation of a 5 ton A/C Condensing unit. in addition to the older 5 ton unit. Both units were earth bonded via the Required (Highland Park Code) 10 ft. ground rod at the units.  Both units were 5  Ton, 230VAC single phase.   While I was looking at the A/C units , the new one tried to start against a locked rotor condition.  From contactor closure to WHUUUUUMP, EMP shot which you could feel the brissance in the ground took about 1/2 second.  This was the source of the EMP event which caused the neutral buss to carry this very unusual form of energy.  The A/C guys came out and replaced the compressor and rectified the situation but I came away with a better understanding a very common phenomenon that most do not take time to fully understand nor appreciate the implications.   By studing the ongoing research of the natural occurrence of this EMP phenomenon from Solar magnetic storms Magnetic Annihilation -Reconnect which have been duplicated in Labs gathering better understanding of phenomenon. I elected to bench top duplicate the situation which I had observed back in 1984 at the Sharp residence.  Since I was doing HVAC, Electrical and Electronics Contracting, I had many compressors at my disposal just like the one in the Carrier A/C unit.    By hydraulic locking the compressor via filling with oil and pinching off the suction and discharge lines you have a fully locked up sealed unit See: 
 
 
This unit utilizes a 40mfd start cap and a 5mfd run cap controlled by current relay.  When energized via 2 pole,230VAC, starter contactor, both the start and run windings are energized. When the Over current relay senses the locked rotor current of 84 amps ( motor in magnetic saturation) the circuit is opened leaving the stored energy in total isolation with no ground reference.  A NECESSARY CONDITION TO GET THE MAGNETIC FLUX ANNIHILATION-Re-CONNECT PHENOMENON or EMP.     This experiment is something anyone can duplicate and observe the phenomenon for yourself.  The reversible ceiling fan is the simplest and easiest and less expensive to replicate. Most current available reversible fans utilize the electrical capacitor relocation via toggle switch to reverse rotation.  All you have to do is open up circuit and re-wire the cap so that you have a momentary loss of ground reference (neutral) while the reversing switch is in transit.  Reverse it several times and you will explode switch!   Now Mick, what do you not understand??   I was just too curious to let this go by without finding an answer.   Just remember the Axiom, Energy cannot be destroyed but it can change forms.
 
 

 On 11/19/2018 10:04 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
 
 
Norm,
 
So why did you first notice this even at a clients, shorted start cap or seized bearing?     Interesting I have noticed a ground rod near pool equipment with GFI but rarely have seen or can recall one next to a heat pump or AC unit and 10 feet ground rod damn that's deeper than a dirt nap.  At 60hz the capacitive coupling is negligible.
 
Unless I am misunderstanding something the L1-L2 at the supply side... coupling to earth would still be at the transformer to center tap neutral back at the pole then the neutral is ground bonded at the service.  Since it is on the sink side of the transformer from the utility there is a direct path to ground through a certain impedance,reactance and reluctance whatever importance that plays into the event.
 
 On 11/19/2018 4:44 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
 
 
Locked means exactly what the term expresses! No rotor motion relative to stator!  On the early 5 Ton A/C units they were service wired with a 3 conductor wip from service disconnect to A/C unit! You had L-1  & L-2 230VAC (hots) and a green earth bonding wire to motor and chasis frame. In addition, you had a10 ft. ground stake into earth ground to bond this outdoor installation for safety reasons.    When over-current relay (84 amps) drops out starter contactor there is NO GROUND PATH to discipate the charge, both magbetic flux sayuration (Inductive power) and the two charged capacitors in the circuit.  This energy is in an isolated state due to insulation in the motor windings and capacitors.   Ole will jump in here and say there is capacitive coupling between motor frame and isolated capacitance and magnetic flux at saturation.    I built and did the test on this phenomenon after I saw it in real life in a clients back yard.  Easy to duplicate!  The reversible ceiling fan trick can be done by anyone by just changing the wiring on the reversing capacitor in-order to float  neutral while the reversing switch is in transition.  Simple!   ( BOOM)!!
 
 On 11/18/2018 11:15 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
 
 
Norm,
 
How did you run the motor in locked mode, by preventing the start cap from energizing?
 
When you experimented with the energy from this motor where did you extract the differential, from the green wire running back to the service panel or another grounding rod and from the motor frame where the ground bonding clip usually is or somewhere else?  
 
 
Assuming frame on your dual winding induction motor was isolated sink side from the stator windings by their insulation  as you mentioned earlier there was no neutral and on the source side by the center tap in the pole pig?
 
Not sure why I was thinking locked was synchronous mode as we discussed earlier the concept of Mag Transmitter is to saturate the core  and release, or as Hector likes to say switch off to turn on.  Some major issues going on here, head on backwards.
 
 
So impedance does opposite of a LC tank and dropped like a series LC hmmm...
 
Thanks,
 
Mick
 

 
 On 11/18/2018 3:44 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
 
 
Thanks! Ole for the explanation!  Rotation is required inorder for counter emf to be generated. In stalled rotor or locked rotor conditions, the current through the windings is only limited by R = resitance. My dual winding 5 HP motor in locked rotor had a  combined current draw of 84 amps @ 230VAC input. When you look at the BH curve on a scope you see the magnetic flux build to saturation at which point the impedance is = to Zero ( air value) with R being the only  limiting factor. (Ole). I used the dual winding motor for it has a starting cap value of 40mfd and a run cap with a value of 5 mfd, both of which are in circuit when current limiting relay drops circuit open yielding the Neutral Spike form ground.   Magneto Electric effect. For it to work, the caps and motor windings have to be isolated from neutral and  earth ground reference.  the iron motor frame is earth bonded. Cancellation of energy in isolation will create an EMP earth ground  response.  This goes back to Page 25 of CSN by Tesla himself.
 
 On 11/17/2018 5:12 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
Locked rotor is when the rotor is prevented from rotating. This is also known as stalled rotor.
 
 Synchronous speed is when the rotor follows the rotating magnetic wave(s) of the stator. In an induction motor  (asynchronous motor) this means no power transmission between the rotor and the stator. The motor is then working neither as motor or generator.
 
 Slip is the ratio between the rotor speed and the rotating field speed.
 
 Regards
 Ole
 
 
 ---In [email protected], <mkjekyll@...> wrote :
 
 
  
Norm,
 
I am slowly digesting this but I think my concept of locked rotor was/is in error.  Always thought this was when the rotor is locked to the rotational field from stator with least amount of slip,  seems like I am reading now it is most amount of slip.
 
Can you provide what locked rotor means to you and any additional information of what you think may be occurring beyond the everyday accepted definition?
 
Thanks,
 
Mick
 
 On 11/16/2018 5:55 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
 
    
 
 
Mick, Ole, Kone etal!  I have been thinking a lot about my Locked Rotor experiments and did  a lot of reading to come up with a fool proof Lenz free motor / generator combination which is so easy to build and proof test! First of all you should read  what we know as facts! See the following articles:
 
https://www.motioncontroltips.com/faq-what-are-dc-shunt-motors-and-where-are-they-used/
 
http://www.machineryspaces.com/direct-current-motors.html
 
https://www.quora.com/What-will-happen-if-the-back-EMF-of-a-DC-motor-vanishes
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-FPcKgwSzs&feature=youtu.be
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3TFALmHtMw&feature=youtu.be
 
https://www.researchgate.net/post/A_DC_shunt_motor_is_running_at_light_load_what_happens_if_the_field_winding_gets_opened
 
Kone loves to play with the very powerful Neos as found at K&G Magnetics and shown in the video of the Ray's LENZ free generator.  What I will propose is very simple application of DC motor principles as read from  the cited references. First you make your LENZ free  motor which is in reality a LINEAR MOTOR (Solenoid) which will give the  necessary stroke length to drive the LINEAR generator (Coil oscillating within the drag free, LENZ free area of the Neo magnets).   Stroke of the solenoid is controlled by Hall sensor and IGBT drive switch to  give an excursion rate (stroke) at a frequency of 60 HZ. By using a DC pulse  to drive the solenoid coil it is tricked into being in LOCKED ROTOR condition,  thus no LENZ effect.  Has the light come on yet??   We know that Ray's generator puts out a sine wave output (AC) with no  LENZ drag.  Following the DC motor principles as applied to the solenoid driver, you have a  motor that is LENZ free also.  The combo should give an Over-unity output. Now the tricky part!  We know as Ole will agree in that when you switch the solenoid power to off  state as magnetic flux is building toward saturation there will be a huge voltage spike (Neutral Spike) which we have to capture and not send to ground  as ordinary practice in solid state switch design (snubber diodes)  The capture of the SPIKE energy (HV) which occurs naturally will be the over-unity  factor here!  Interesting concept!  Think about it!  Norm    Mick! (accumulator HV caps)!
 
 On 11/16/2018 6:23 AM, Mick mkjekyll@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
 
 
Ole,
 
I have had caps charge much faster in an LC tank than otherwise, but it could also  have to do with noise in the core material as I was no using an air inductor.
 
 
 On 11/16/2018 1:19 AM, onielsen@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
Hi Mick,
 
 "If a reactive LC tank capacitor is then  disconnected from the reactive source then discharged to a  resistive load then reconnected  energized back to the standing wave modality recharged  disconnected discharged etc.  If the reactive energy is harvested in this  manner are you claiming the same losses will occur as power factor correcting the  reactive back into real power?"
 
 Yes that's correct.
 
 Common power factor correction in AC is for  eliminating the reactive power that doesn't do any work but just heats  the wires between the power plant and the  reactive load. This is expensive for the owners of the power  transmission lines and thus should be avoided. First storing the energy in a capacitor (or inductor or battery) and  then dumping it to an active load will still make the power go in just one direction even though it happens in  pulses. The energy is then moving from the source to the load.  Reactive power has the energy moving to and  from the load and power source. The power moving between the capacitor  and inductor in an LC-tank is pure reactive except for the loss because of the parasitic resistance in the  components and wires.
 
 Regards
 Ole
 
 
 ---In [email protected], <mkjekyll@...> wrote :
 
 
  
Ole,
 
Disregarding the issue at hand with the patent terminology and  not concerning ourselves with the patent just a very high Q tank.
 
 
If a reactive LC tank capacitor is then disconnected from the  reactive source then discharged to a resistive load then reconnected energized back to the standing  wave modality recharged disconnected discharged etc.  If the reactive energy is harvested in this  manner are you claiming the same losses will occur as  power factor correcting the reactive back into real power?
 

 
 

 
 On 11/15/2018 5:36 PM, onielsen@... [EVGRAY] wrote
  
 
    
I have only read to the following  paragraph cited below. I wonder if the applicant knows about  what he is writing.
 
 Citing paragraph 106  of the patent application (https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/53/7d/29/f7b4bd0194992d/US20070296373A1.pdf):
 "[0106] There is voltage across  the inductor connected in series to the capacitor and there is  voltage across the inductor connected in  parallel to the capacitor.  SincePower=voltage×current, a single power input produces two branches of electromagnetic  power output, increasing the  power output. In the alternative,  the present disclosure may have one electromagnetic power output  with less energy input."
 
 
 
 It isn't as simple as this. If using an oscilloscope for measuring the current and voltage it will show some phase displacement between the current and voltage which means reactive power. Look at the following small videos to see how one can be misled if not knowing how the phase between the current and voltage is: Only the the resistive part consumes (transforms) energy like R in figure 8.
 
 
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I just found an article about stopping a motor by reversing it while running. It's called plugging. Below are two figures from the article where one is showing the speed and braking torque and the other one is shoving the current. Here is the article: https://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/general/reversing-3-phase-motor-stop-149599/ https://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/general/reversing-3-phase-motor-stop-149599/. Look at the currents. The switch contact points have to carry perhaps 20 times the running current. If they don't have low resistance they're welded or vaporized as the dissipated power is proportional to the current squared. Thus if the current is 20 times greater than normal the power dissipation is 400 times greater than normal. If the contacts bounce the formed plasma may dissipate even more power as the resistance becomes greater while the current stays the same.

 
 Regards
Ole


 

---In [email protected], <canowindracd@...> wrote :

 
 Norm,
 

 Very good info about the EMP.  I've had quite a few experiences with it over the years. The last one was with a refrigeration unit being installed by other contractors in a supermarket food store and it blew up the lightning protection unit in the main Switchboard.  We got the blame and we could not convince the owner otherwise and he didn't want to pay for our work of installing the lightning protection unit. Most times it has happened in my experiences has been associated with refrigeration and air conditioning systems.  I did see something unusual with large motors in an off mode turning backwards in a brick-works when the metal detector stopped the motors of the feeding conveyors into the pan mixer. You do see some weird things sometimes and you go away scratching your head.
 

 George

 


 On Wednesday, 21 November 2018, 3:21:33 am AEDT, Norman Wootan nwootan@... [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote: 
 

 

   
 Mick!  I am getting just like Hector here by having to explain something over and over!  I guess short memory is the cause for lack of understanding the whole project.   First you have to go back to the 1981 ceiling fan, 1/6th HP capacitor run shaded pole motor problem. A wiring error by a Chinese assembly worker incorrectly wired the capacitor reversing switch into the neutral side of the circuit which provided a total isolation of charge while the switch was in transition from forward operation  to reverse operation. Reversing switch would explode.  This was my first encounter with the phenomenon which I researched and determined that it was a Magneto-Electric effect or better put, Magnetic flux annihilation-reconnect as we now know it. In Physics we have always been taught that energy cannot be destroyed but can change forms as we clearly see by simple experiment. With this knowledge tucked back in the memory bank, I had the occasion to encounter this phenomenon again in around 1984. A wealthy widow had remodeled her expansive Highland Park home (Dallas) and I had installed a projection TV system into her den.   MS. Sharp called and said  she had a Poltergeist in her den. When I arrived she served tea and told me to sit there and wait a few minutes.  The TV screen and projector both started descending from the ceiling then reversed and went back up.  Both these motors were shaded pole, capacitor run design so that switching via wall switch could reverse operation, either up or down against limit switches. Here is the Somfy motor example so you understand how they operate:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMHEJ2iIu14&feature=youtu.be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMHEJ2iIu14&feature=youtu.be      When I went into attic to examine the motorized units the phenomenon occurred again. Sure enough the screen and projector descended half way down then reversed and retracted. Over my head was a powered turbo ventilator attic fan of shaded pole design which took off ZIIIIINNNNG , super fast acceleration up to a speed about 10X design speed but one big problem was that it took off backwards! The turbine took several minutes to coast down to a stop.  A visit downstairs found that a small appliance like a counter top blender in the kitchen (shaded pole motor) would take off spinning backwards then stop.  The only connection that all these motor had when sitting in a turned off state was a connection to the neutral buss.   Interesting fact was that with the very small size motor windings and sudden fantastic acceleration up to very high speed (backwards) did no damage to the motors. I did an inspection to the mains breakers and house wiring including the service cabelling and earth ground at the mains panel. All was up to Dallas Code. While walking in side yard, I found a brand new installation of a 5 ton A/C Condensing unit. in addition to the older 5 ton unit. Both units were earth bonded via the Required (Highland Park Code) 10 ft. ground rod at the units.  Both units were 5  Ton, 230VAC single phase.   While I was looking at the A/C units , the new one tried to start against a locked rotor condition.  From contactor closure to WHUUUUUMP, EMP shot which you could feel the brissance in the ground took about 1/2 second.  This was the source of the EMP event which caused the neutral buss to carry this very unusual form of energy.  The A/C guys came out and replaced the compressor and rectified the situation but I came away with a better understanding a very common phenomenon that most do not take time to fully understand nor appreciate the implications.   By studing the ongoing research of the natural occurrence of this EMP phenomenon from Solar magnetic storms Magnetic Annihilation -Reconnect which have been duplicated in Labs gathering better understanding of phenomenon. I elected to bench top duplicate the situation which I had observed back in 1984 at the Sharp residence.  Since I was doing HVAC, Electrical and Electronics Contracting, I had many compressors at my disposal just like the one in the Carrier A/C unit.    By hydraulic locking the compressor via filling with oil and pinching off the suction and discharge lines you have a fully locked up sealed unit See: 

 This unit utilizes a 40mfd start cap and a 5mfd run cap controlled by current relay.  When energized via 2 pole,230VAC, starter contactor, both the start and run windings are energized. When the Over current relay senses the locked rotor current of 84 amps ( motor in magnetic saturation) the circuit is opened leaving the stored energy in total isolation with no ground reference.  A NECESSARY CONDITION TO GET THE MAGNETIC FLUX ANNIHILATION-Re-CONNECT PHENOMENON or EMP.     This experiment is something anyone can duplicate and observe the phenomenon for yourself.  The reversible ceiling fan is the simplest and easiest and less expensive to replicate. Most current available reversible fans utilize the electrical capacitor relocation via toggle switch to reverse rotation.  All you have to do is open up circuit and re-wire the cap so that you have a momentary loss of ground reference (neutral) while the reversing switch is in transit. Reverse it several times and you will explode switch!   Now Mick, what do you not understand??   I was just too curious to let this go by without finding an answer.   Just remember the Axiom, Energy cannot be destroyed but it can change forms.

 
 On 11/19/2018 10:04 AM, Mick mkjekyll@... mailto:mkjekyll@... [EVGRAY] wrote:

   
 Norm,
 So why did you first notice this even at a clients, shorted start cap or seized bearing?     Interesting I have noticed a ground rod near pool equipment with GFI but rarely have seen or can recall one next to a heat pump or AC unit and 10 feet ground rod damn that's deeper than a dirt nap.  At 60hz the capacitive coupling is negligible.
 Unless I am misunderstanding something the L1-L2 at the supply side... coupling to earth would still be at the transformer to center tap neutral back at the pole then the neutral is ground bonded at the service.  Since it is on the sink side of the transformer from the utility there is a direct path to ground through a certain impedance,reactance and reluctance whatever importance that plays into the event.

 On 11/19/2018 4:44 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... mailto:nwootan@... [EVGRAY] wrote:

   
 Locked means exactly what the term expresses! No rotor motion relative to stator!  On the early 5 Ton A/C units they were service wired with a 3 conductor wip from service disconnect to A/C unit! You had L-1 & L-2 230VAC (hots) and a green earth bonding wire to motor and chasis frame. In addition, you had a10 ft. ground stake into earth ground to bond this outdoor installation for safety reasons.    When over-current relay (84 amps) drops out starter contactor there is NO GROUND PATH to discipate the charge, both magbetic flux sayuration (Inductive power) and the two charged capacitors in the circuit.  This energy is in an isolated state due to insulation in the motor windings and capacitors.   Ole will jump in here and say there is capacitive coupling between motor frame and isolated capacitance and magnetic flux at saturation.    I built and did the test on this phenomenon after I saw it in real life in a clients back yard.  Easy to duplicate!  The reversible ceiling fan trick can be done by anyone by just changing the wiring on the reversing capacitor in-order to float neutral while the reversing switch is in transition.  Simple!   ( BOOM)!!

 On 11/18/2018 11:15 AM, Mick mkjekyll@... mailto:mkjekyll@... [EVGRAY] wrote:

   
 Norm,
 How did you run the motor in locked mode, by preventing the start cap from energizing?
 When you experimented with the energy from this motor where did you extract the differential, from the green wire running back to the service panel or another grounding rod and from the motor frame where the ground bonding clip usually is or somewhere else?  

 Assuming frame on your dual winding induction motor was isolated sink side from the stator windings by their insulation  as you mentioned earlier there was no neutral and on the source side by the center tap in the pole pig?
 Not sure why I was thinking locked was synchronous mode as we discussed earlier the concept of Mag Transmitter is to saturate the core and release, or as Hector likes to say switch off to turn on.  Some major issues going on here, head on backwards.

 So impedance does opposite of a LC tank and dropped like a series LC hmmm...
 Thanks,
 Mick
 

 On 11/18/2018 3:44 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... mailto:nwootan@... [EVGRAY] wrote:

   
 Thanks! Ole for the explanation!  Rotation is required inorder for counter emf to be generated. In stalled rotor or locked rotor conditions, the current through the windings is only limited by R = resitance. My dual winding 5 HP motor in locked rotor had a combined current draw of 84 amps @ 230VAC input. When you look at the BH curve on a scope you see the magnetic flux build to saturation at which point the impedance is = to Zero ( air value) with R being the only limiting factor. (Ole). I used the dual winding motor for it has a starting cap value of 40mfd and a run cap with a value of 5 mfd, both of which are in circuit when current limiting relay drops circuit open yielding the Neutral Spike form ground.   Magneto Electric effect. For it to work, the caps and motor windings have to be isolated from neutral and earth ground reference.  the iron motor frame is earth bonded. Cancellation of energy in isolation will create an EMP earth ground response.  This goes back to Page 25 of CSN by Tesla himself.

 On 11/17/2018 5:12 PM, onielsen@... mailto:onielsen@... [EVGRAY] wrote:

   Locked rotor is when the rotor is prevented from rotating. This is also known as stalled rotor.
 
 Synchronous speed is when the rotor follows the rotating magnetic wave(s) of the stator. In an induction motor (asynchronous motor) this means no power transmission between the rotor and the stator. The motor is then working neither as motor or generator.
 
 Slip is the ratio between the rotor speed and the rotating field speed.
 
 Regards
 Ole
 
 
 ---In [email protected] mailto:[email protected], <mkjekyll@...> mailto:mkjekyll@... wrote :
 

 Norm,
 I am slowly digesting this but I think my concept of locked rotor was/is in error.  Always thought this was when the rotor is locked to the rotational field from stator with least amount of slip, seems like I am reading now it is most amount of slip.
 Can you provide what locked rotor means to you and any additional information of what you think may be occurring beyond the everyday accepted definition?
 Thanks,
 Mick

 On 11/16/2018 5:55 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... mailto:nwootan@... [EVGRAY] wrote:

   
 Mick, Ole, Kone etal!  I have been thinking a lot about my Locked Rotor experiments and did a lot of reading to come up with a fool proof Lenz free motor / generator combination which is so easy to build and proof test! First of all you should read what we know as facts! See the following articles:
 https://www.motioncontroltips.com/faq-what-are-dc-shunt-motors-and-where-are-they-used/ https://www.motioncontroltips.com/faq-what-are-dc-shunt-motors-and-where-are-they-used/
 http://www.machineryspaces.com/direct-current-motors.html http://www.machineryspaces.com/direct-current-motors.html
 https://www.quora.com/What-will-happen-if-the-back-EMF-of-a-DC-motor-vanishes https://www.quora.com/What-will-happen-if-the-back-EMF-of-a-DC-motor-vanishes
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-FPcKgwSzs&feature=youtu.be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-FPcKgwSzs&feature=youtu.be
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3TFALmHtMw&feature=youtu.be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3TFALmHtMw&feature=youtu.be
 https://www.researchgate.net/post/A_DC_shunt_motor_is_running_at_light_load_what_happens_if_the_field_winding_gets_opened https://www.researchgate.net/post/A_DC_shunt_motor_is_running_at_light_load_what_happens_if_the_field_winding_gets_opened
 Kone loves to play with the very powerful Neos as found at K&G Magnetics and shown in the video of the Ray's LENZ free generator.  What I will propose is very simple application of DC motor principles as read from the cited references. First you make your LENZ free  motor which is in reality a LINEAR MOTOR (Solenoid) which will give the necessary stroke length to drive the LINEAR generator (Coil oscillating within the drag free, LENZ free area of the Neo magnets).   Stroke of the solenoid is controlled by Hall sensor and IGBT drive switch to give an excursion rate (stroke) at a frequency of 60 HZ. By using a DC pulse  to drive the solenoid coil it is tricked into being in LOCKED ROTOR condition, thus no LENZ effect.  Has the light come on yet??   We know that Ray's generator puts out a sine wave output (AC) with no LENZ drag.  Following the DC motor principles as applied to the solenoid driver, you have a motor that is LENZ free also.  The combo should give an Over-unity output. Now the tricky part!  We know as Ole will agree in that when you switch the solenoid power to off state as magnetic flux is building toward saturation there will be a huge voltage spike (Neutral Spike) which we have to capture and not send to ground as ordinary practice in solid state switch design (snubber diodes)  The capture of the SPIKE energy (HV) which occurs naturally will be the over-unity factor here!  Interesting concept!  Think about it!  Norm    Mick! (accumulator HV caps)!

 On 11/16/2018 6:23 AM, Mick mkjekyll@... mailto:mkjekyll@... [EVGRAY] wrote:

   
 Ole,
 I have had caps charge much faster in an LC tank than otherwise, but it could also have to do with noise in the core material as I was no using an air inductor.

 
 On 11/16/2018 1:19 AM, onielsen@... mailto:onielsen@... [EVGRAY] wrote:

   Hi Mick,
 
 "If a reactive LC tank capacitor is then disconnected from the reactive source then discharged to a resistive load then reconnected energized back to the standing wave modality recharged disconnected discharged etc.  If the reactive energy is harvested in this manner are you claiming the same losses will occur as power factor correcting the reactive back into real power?"
 
 Yes that's correct.
 
 Common power factor correction in AC is for eliminating the reactive power that doesn't do any work but just heats the wires between the power plant and the reactive load. This is expensive for the owners of the power transmission lines and thus should be avoided. First storing the energy in a capacitor (or inductor or battery) and then dumping it to an active load will still make the power go in just one direction even though it happens in pulses. The energy is then moving from the source to the load. Reactive power has the energy moving to and from the load and power source. The power moving between the capacitor and inductor in an LC-tank is pure reactive except for the loss because of the parasitic resistance in the components and wires.
 
 Regards
 Ole
 
 
 ---In [email protected] mailto:[email protected], <mkjekyll@...> mailto:mkjekyll@... wrote :
 

 Ole,
 Disregarding the issue at hand with the patent terminology and not concerning ourselves with the patent just a very high Q tank.

 If a reactive LC tank capacitor is then disconnected from the reactive source then discharged to a resistive load then reconnected energized back to the standing wave modality recharged disconnected discharged etc.  If the reactive energy is harvested in this manner are you claiming the same losses will occur as power factor correcting the reactive back into real power?
 

 

 On 11/15/2018 5:36 PM, onielsen@... mailto:onielsen@... [EVGRAY] wrote

   I have only read to the following paragraph cited below. I wonder if the applicant knows about what he is writing.
 
 Citing paragraph 106 of the patent application (https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/53/7d/29/f7b4bd0194992d/US20070296373A1.pdf https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/53/7d/29/f7b4bd0194992d/US20070296373A1.pdf):
 "[0106] There is voltage across the inductor connected in series to the capacitor and there is voltage across the inductor connected in parallel to the capacitor. Since Power=voltage×current, a single power input produces two branches of electromagnetic power output, increasing the power output. In the alternative, the present disclosure may have one electromagnetic power output with less energy input."

More on plugging.
http://www.industrial-electronics.com/Motor_Control_10-48.html http://www.industrial-electronics.com/Motor_Control_10-48.html

This site seems be a wealth of electrical engineering info. Here is the index page: http://www.industrial-electronics.com/index.html http://www.industrial-electronics.com/index.html

Regards
Ole


---In [email protected], <onielsen@...> wrote :

 I just found an article about stopping a motor by reversing it while running. It's called plugging. Below are two figures from the article where one is showing the speed and braking torque and the other one is shoving the current. Here is the article: https://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/general/reversing-3-phase-motor-stop-149599/ https://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/general/reversing-3-phase-motor-stop-149599/. Look at the currents. The switch contact points have to carry perhaps 20 times the running current. If they don't have low resistance they're welded or vaporized as the dissipated power is proportional to the current squared. Thus if the current is 20 times greater than normal the power dissipation is 400 times greater than normal. If the contacts bounce the formed plasma may dissipate even more power as the resistance becomes greater while the current stays the same.

 
 Regards
Ole


 

---In [email protected], <canowindracd@...> wrote :

 
 Norm,
 

 Very good info about the EMP.  I've had quite a few experiences with it over the years. The last one was with a refrigeration unit being installed by other contractors in a supermarket food store and it blew up the lightning protection unit in the main Switchboard.  We got the blame and we could not convince the owner otherwise and he didn't want to pay for our work of installing the lightning protection unit. Most times it has happened in my experiences has been associated with refrigeration and air conditioning systems.  I did see something unusual with large motors in an off mode turning backwards in a brick-works when the metal detector stopped the motors of the feeding conveyors into the pan mixer. You do see some weird things sometimes and you go away scratching your head.
 

 George

 
 

 On Wednesday, 21 November 2018, 3:21:33 am AEDT, Norman Wootan nwootan@... [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote: 
 

 

   
 Mick!  I am getting just like Hector here by having to explain something over and over!  I guess short memory is the cause for lack of understanding the whole project.   First you have to go back to the 1981 ceiling fan, 1/6th HP capacitor run shaded pole motor problem. A wiring error by a Chinese assembly worker incorrectly wired the capacitor reversing switch into the neutral side of the circuit which provided a total isolation of charge while the switch was in transition from forward operation  to reverse operation. Reversing switch would explode.  This was my first encounter with the phenomenon which I researched and determined that it was a Magneto-Electric effect or better put, Magnetic flux annihilation-reconnect as we now know it. In Physics we have always been taught that energy cannot be destroyed but can change forms as we clearly see by simple experiment. With this knowledge tucked back in the memory bank, I had the occasion to encounter this phenomenon again in around 1984. A wealthy widow had remodeled her expansive Highland Park home (Dallas) and I had installed a projection TV system into her den.   MS. Sharp called and said  she had a Poltergeist in her den. When I arrived she served tea and told me to sit there and wait a few minutes.  The TV screen and projector both started descending from the ceiling then reversed and went back up.  Both these motors were shaded pole, capacitor run design so that switching via wall switch could reverse operation, either up or down against limit switches. Here is the Somfy motor example so you understand how they operate:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMHEJ2iIu14&feature=youtu.be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMHEJ2iIu14&feature=youtu.be      When I went into attic to examine the motorized units the phenomenon occurred again. Sure enough the screen and projector descended half way down then reversed and retracted. Over my head was a powered turbo ventilator attic fan of shaded pole design which took off ZIIIIINNNNG , super fast acceleration up to a speed about 10X design speed but one big problem was that it took off backwards! The turbine took several minutes to coast down to a stop.  A visit downstairs found that a small appliance like a counter top blender in the kitchen (shaded pole motor) would take off spinning backwards then stop.  The only connection that all these motor had when sitting in a turned off state was a connection to the neutral buss.   Interesting fact was that with the very small size motor windings and sudden fantastic acceleration up to very high speed (backwards) did no damage to the motors. I did an inspection to the mains breakers and house wiring including the service cabelling and earth ground at the mains panel. All was up to Dallas Code. While walking in side yard, I found a brand new installation of a 5 ton A/C Condensing unit. in addition to the older 5 ton unit. Both units were earth bonded via the Required (Highland Park Code) 10 ft. ground rod at the units.  Both units were 5  Ton, 230VAC single phase.   While I was looking at the A/C units , the new one tried to start against a locked rotor condition.  From contactor closure to WHUUUUUMP, EMP shot which you could feel the brissance in the ground took about 1/2 second.  This was the source of the EMP event which caused the neutral buss to carry this very unusual form of energy.  The A/C guys came out and replaced the compressor and rectified the situation but I came away with a better understanding a very common phenomenon that most do not take time to fully understand nor appreciate the implications.   By studing the ongoing research of the natural occurrence of this EMP phenomenon from Solar magnetic storms Magnetic Annihilation -Reconnect which have been duplicated in Labs gathering better understanding of phenomenon. I elected to bench top duplicate the situation which I had observed back in 1984 at the Sharp residence.  Since I was doing HVAC, Electrical and Electronics Contracting, I had many compressors at my disposal just like the one in the Carrier A/C unit.    By hydraulic locking the compressor via filling with oil and pinching off the suction and discharge lines you have a fully locked up sealed unit See: 

 This unit utilizes a 40mfd start cap and a 5mfd run cap controlled by current relay.  When energized via 2 pole,230VAC, starter contactor, both the start and run windings are energized. When the Over current relay senses the locked rotor current of 84 amps ( motor in magnetic saturation) the circuit is opened leaving the stored energy in total isolation with no ground reference.  A NECESSARY CONDITION TO GET THE MAGNETIC FLUX ANNIHILATION-Re-CONNECT PHENOMENON or EMP.     This experiment is something anyone can duplicate and observe the phenomenon for yourself.  The reversible ceiling fan is the simplest and easiest and less expensive to replicate. Most current available reversible fans utilize the electrical capacitor relocation via toggle switch to reverse rotation.  All you have to do is open up circuit and re-wire the cap so that you have a momentary loss of ground reference (neutral) while the reversing switch is in transit. Reverse it several times and you will explode switch!   Now Mick, what do you not understand??   I was just too curious to let this go by without finding an answer.   Just remember the Axiom, Energy cannot be destroyed but it can change forms.

 
...

OleThat is very interesting. 20 times the running current by reversing!Can a machine be devised to exploit this current?Let us consider how to conceive a motor that gets to speed, and then reverses, capturing all that current, then runs the other direction to hit full speed, then reverses.Somehow, I am sure someone must have tried this, faced with some motor drive of something.I had to build a full sized aluminium man who could break dance to music for an artist. I was supplied the servos by the artist who was an early pioneer of machine programming, and had matched his very expensive, at that time, permanent magnet chopper driven servos, to his prototype driver boards. I looked at the weenie shafts, and said "no way can these handle the torque, splined or not"Sure enough they didn't even lift the honey comb aluminium arm, the motor shearing off its own shaft, with tremendous torque, that that little motor in chopper mode produced.I know it is not the same phenomena you are pointing out, it is really about the positive aspect of a very unpleasant mechanical event, we often would rather forget than exploit as a discovery, and make use of.20 times the current indeed!Lets take it and use it.Cheers Warren

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Thu, 22 Nov 2018 at 8:55 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
I just found an article about stopping a motor by reversing it while running. It's called plugging. Below are two figures from the article where one is showing the speed and braking torque and the other one is shoving the current. Here is the article: https://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/general/reversing-3-phase-motor-stop-149599/. Look at the currents. The switch contact points have to carry perhaps 20 times the running current. If they don't have low resistance they're welded or vaporized as the dissipated power is proportional to the current squared. Thus if the current is 20 times greater than normal the power dissipation is 400 times greater than normal. If the contacts bounce the formed plasma may dissipate even more power as the resistance becomes greater while the current stays the same.


Regards
Ole



---In [email protected], <canowindracd@...> wrote :

Norm,
Very good info about the EMP.  I've had quite a few experiences with it over the years. The last one was with a refrigeration unit being installed by other contractors in a supermarket food store and it blew up the lightning protection unit in the main Switchboard.  We got the blame and we could not convince the owner otherwise and he didn't want to pay for our work of installing the lightning protection unit. Most times it has happened in my experiences has been associated with refrigeration and air conditioning systems.  I did see something unusual with large motors in an off mode turning backwards in a brick-works when the metal detector stopped the motors of the feeding conveyors into the pan mixer. You do see some weird things sometimes and you go away scratching your head.
George


 On Wednesday, 21 November 2018, 3:21:33 am AEDT, Norman Wootan nwootan@... [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:


 


Mick!  I am getting just like Hector here by having to explainsomething over and over!  I guess short memory is the cause forlack of understanding the whole project.   First you have to goback to the 1981 ceiling fan, 1/6th HP capacitor run shaded polemotor problem. A wiring error by a Chinese assembly workerincorrectly wired the capacitor reversing switch into the neutralside of the circuit which provided a total isolation of chargewhile the switch was in transition from forward operation  toreverse operation. Reversing switch would explode.  This was myfirst encounter with the phenomenon which I researched anddetermined that it was a Magneto-Electric effect or better put,Magnetic flux annihilation-reconnect as we now know it. In Physicswe have always been taught that energy cannot be destroyed but canchange forms as we clearly see by simple experiment. With thisknowledge tucked back in the memory bank, I had the occasion toencounter this phenomenon again in around 1984. A wealthy widowhad remodeled her expansive Highland Park home (Dallas) and I hadinstalled a projection TV system into her den.   MS. Sharp calledand said  she had a Poltergeist in her den. When I arrived sheserved tea and told me to sit there and wait a few minutes.  TheTV screen and projector both started descending from the ceilingthen reversed and went back up.  Both these motors were shadedpole, capacitor run design so that switching via wall switch couldreverse operation, either up or down against limit switches. Hereis the Somfy motor example so you understand how they operate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMHEJ2iIu14&feature=youtu.be     When I went into attic to examine the motorized units thephenomenon occurred again. Sure enough the screen and projectordescended half way down then reversed and retracted. Over my headwas a powered turbo ventilator attic fan of shaded pole designwhich took off ZIIIIINNNNG , super fast acceleration up to a speedabout 10X design speed but one big problem was that it took offbackwards! The turbine took several minutes to coast down to astop.  A visit downstairs found that a small appliance like acounter top blender in the kitchen (shaded pole motor) would takeoff spinning backwards then stop.  The only connection that allthese motor had when sitting in a turned off state was aconnection to the neutral buss.   Interesting fact was that withthe very small size motor windings and sudden fantasticacceleration up to very high speed (backwards) did no damage tothe motors. I did an inspection to the mains breakers and housewiring including the service cabelling and earth ground at themains panel. All was up to Dallas Code. While walking in sideyard, I found a brand new installation of a 5 ton A/C Condensingunit. in addition to the older 5 ton unit. Both units were earthbonded via the Required (Highland Park Code) 10 ft. ground rod atthe units.  Both units were 5  Ton, 230VAC single phase.   While Iwas looking at the A/C units , the new one tried to start againsta locked rotor condition.  From contactor closure to WHUUUUUMP,EMP shot which you could feel the brissance in the ground tookabout 1/2 second.  This was the source of the EMP event whichcaused the neutral buss to carry this very unusual form ofenergy.  The A/C guys came out and replaced the compressor andrectified the situation but I came away with a betterunderstanding a very common phenomenon that most do not take timeto fully understand nor appreciate the implications.   By studingthe ongoing research of the natural occurrence of this EMPphenomenon from Solar magnetic storms Magnetic Annihilation-Reconnect which have been duplicated in Labs gathering betterunderstanding of phenomenon. I elected to bench top duplicate thesituation which I had observed back in 1984 at the Sharpresidence.  Since I was doing HVAC, Electrical and ElectronicsContracting, I had many compressors at my disposal just like theone in the Carrier A/C unit.    By hydraulic locking thecompressor via filling with oil and pinching off the suction anddischarge lines you have a fully locked up sealed unit See: 


This unit utilizes a 40mfd start cap and a 5mfd run capcontrolled by current relay.  When energized via 2 pole,230VAC,starter contactor, both the start and run windings are energized.When the Over current relay senses the locked rotor current of 84amps ( motor in magnetic saturation) the circuit is opened leavingthe stored energy in total isolation with no ground reference.  ANECESSARY CONDITION TO GET THE MAGNETIC FLUXANNIHILATION-Re-CONNECT PHENOMENON or EMP.     This experiment issomething anyone can duplicate and observe the phenomenon foryourself.  The reversible ceiling fan is the simplest and easiestand less expensive to replicate. Most current available reversiblefans utilize the electrical capacitor relocation via toggle switchto reverse rotation.  All you have to do is open up circuit andre-wire the cap so that you have a momentary loss of groundreference (neutral) while the reversing switch is in transit.Reverse it several times and you will explode switch!   Now Mick,what do you not understand??   I was just too curious to let thisgo by without finding an answer.   Just remember the Axiom, Energycannot be destroyed but it can change forms.



On 11/19/2018 10:04 AM, Mickmkjekyll@... [EVGRAY] wrote:

 


Norm,

So why did you first notice this even at a clients,shorted start cap or seized bearing?     Interesting Ihave noticed a ground rod near pool equipment with GFI butrarely have seen or can recall one next to a heat pump orAC unit and 10 feet ground rod damn that's deeper than adirt nap.  At 60hz the capacitive coupling is negligible.

Unless I am misunderstanding something the L1-L2 at thesupply side... coupling to earth would still be at thetransformer to center tap neutral back at the pole thenthe neutral is ground bonded at the service.  Since it ison the sink side of the transformer from the utility thereis a direct path to ground through a certainimpedance,reactance and reluctance whatever importancethat plays into the event.

On 11/19/2018 4:44 AM, NormanWootan nwootan@...[EVGRAY] wrote:

  


Locked means exactly what the term expresses! Norotor motion relative to stator!  On the early 5 TonA/C units they were service wired with a 3 conductorwip from service disconnect to A/C unit! You had L-1& L-2 230VAC (hots) and a green earth bonding wireto motor and chasis frame. In addition, you had a10ft. ground stake into earth ground to bond thisoutdoor installation for safety reasons.    Whenover-current relay (84 amps) drops out startercontactor there is NO GROUND PATH to discipate thecharge, both magbetic flux sayuration (Inductivepower) and the two charged capacitors in the circuit. This energy is in an isolated state due to insulationin the motor windings and capacitors.   Ole will jumpin here and say there is capacitive coupling betweenmotor frame and isolated capacitance and magnetic fluxat saturation.    I built and did the test on thisphenomenon after I saw it in real life in a clientsback yard.  Easy to duplicate!  The reversible ceilingfan trick can be done by anyone by just changing thewiring on the reversing capacitor in-order to floatneutral while the reversing switch is in transition. Simple!   ( BOOM)!!

On 11/18/2018 11:15 AM,Mick mkjekyll@...[EVGRAY] wrote:

 


Norm,

How did you run the motor in locked mode, bypreventing the start cap from energizing?

When you experimented with the energy from thismotor where did you extract the differential, fromthe green wire running back to the service panelor another grounding rod and from the motor framewhere the ground bonding clip usually is orsomewhere else?  


Assuming frame on your dual winding inductionmotor was isolated sink side from the statorwindings by their insulation  as you mentionedearlier there was no neutral and on the sourceside by the center tap in the pole pig?

Not sure why I was thinking locked wassynchronous mode as we discussed earlier theconcept of Mag Transmitter is to saturate the coreand release, or as Hector likes to say switch offto turn on.  Some major issues going on here, headon backwards.


So impedance does opposite of a LC tank anddropped like a series LC hmmm...

Thanks,

Mick



On 11/18/2018 3:44 AM,Norman Wootan nwootan@...[EVGRAY] wrote:

 


Thanks! Ole for the explanation!  Rotation isrequired inorder for counter emf to begenerated. In stalled rotor or locked rotorconditions, the current through the windingsis only limited by R = resitance. My dualwinding 5 HP motor in locked rotor had acombined current draw of 84 amps @ 230VACinput. When you look at the BH curve on ascope you see the magnetic flux build tosaturation at which point the impedance is =to Zero ( air value) with R being the onlylimiting factor. (Ole). I used the dualwinding motor for it has a starting cap valueof 40mfd and a run cap with a value of 5 mfd,both of which are in circuit when currentlimiting relay drops circuit open yielding theNeutral Spike form ground.   Magneto Electriceffect. For it to work, the caps and motorwindings have to be isolated from neutral andearth ground reference.  the iron motor frameis earth bonded. Cancellation of energy inisolation will create an EMP earth groundresponse.  This goes back to Page 25 of CSN byTesla himself.

On 11/17/2018 5:12PM, onielsen@...[EVGRAY] wrote:

  
Lockedrotor is when the rotor isprevented from rotating. This is alsoknown as stalledrotor.

Synchronousspeed is when the rotor followsthe rotating magnetic wave(s) of thestator. In an induction motor(asynchronous motor) this means no powertransmission between the rotor and thestator. The motor is then working neitheras motor or generator.

Slipis the ratio between the rotor speed andthe rotating field speed.

Regards
Ole


---In [email protected],<mkjekyll@...>wrote :



Norm,

I am slowly digesting this but I thinkmy concept of locked rotor was/is inerror.  Always thought this was when therotor is locked to the rotational fieldfrom stator with least amount of slip,seems like I am reading now it is mostamount of slip.

Can you provide what locked rotor meansto you and any additional information ofwhat you think may be occurring beyondthe everyday accepted definition?

Thanks,

Mick

On11/16/2018 5:55 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@...[EVGRAY] wrote:


  


Mick, Ole, Kone etal!  I havebeen thinking a lot about myLocked Rotor experiments and dida lot of reading to come up witha fool proof Lenz free motor /generator combination which isso easy to build and proof test!First of all you should readwhat we know as facts! See thefollowing articles:

https://www.motioncontroltips.com/faq-what-are-dc-shunt-motors-and-where-are-they-used/

http://www.machineryspaces.com/direct-current-motors.html

https://www.quora.com/What-will-happen-if-the-back-EMF-of-a-DC-motor-vanishes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-FPcKgwSzs&feature=youtu.be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3TFALmHtMw&feature=youtu.be

https://www.researchgate.net/post/A_DC_shunt_motor_is_running_at_light_load_what_happens_if_the_field_winding_gets_opened

Kone loves to play with thevery powerful Neos as found atK&G Magnetics and shown inthe video of the Ray's LENZ freegenerator.  What I will proposeis very simple application of DCmotor principles as read fromthe cited references. First youmake your LENZ free  motor whichis in reality a LINEAR MOTOR(Solenoid) which will give thenecessary stroke length to drivethe LINEAR generator (Coiloscillating within the dragfree, LENZ free area of the Neomagnets).   Stroke of thesolenoid is controlled by Hallsensor and IGBT drive switch togive an excursion rate (stroke)at a frequency of 60 HZ. Byusing a DC pulse  to drive thesolenoid coil it is tricked intobeing in LOCKED ROTOR condition,thus no LENZ effect.  Has thelight come on yet??   We knowthat Ray's generator puts out asine wave output (AC) with noLENZ drag.  Following the DCmotor principles as applied tothe solenoid driver, you have amotor that is LENZ free also. The combo should give anOver-unity output. Now thetricky part!  We know as Olewill agree in that when youswitch the solenoid power to offstate as magnetic flux isbuilding toward saturation therewill be a huge voltage spike(Neutral Spike) which we have tocapture and not send to groundas ordinary practice in solidstate switch design (snubberdiodes)  The capture of theSPIKE energy (HV) which occursnaturally will be the over-unityfactor here!  Interestingconcept!  Think about it! Norm    Mick! (accumulator HVcaps)!

On11/16/2018 6:23 AM, Mick mkjekyll@...[EVGRAY] wrote:

  


Ole,

I have had caps charge muchfaster in an LC tank thanotherwise, but it could alsohave to do with noise in thecore material as I was nousing an air inductor.


On11/16/2018 1:19 AM, onielsen@...[EVGRAY] wrote:

  
Hi Mick,

"Ifa reactive LC tankcapacitor is thendisconnected fromthe reactive sourcethen discharged to aresistive load thenreconnectedenergized back tothe standing wavemodality rechargeddisconnecteddischarged etc.  Ifthe reactive energyis harvested in thismanner are youclaiming the samelosses will occur aspower factorcorrecting thereactive back intoreal power?"

Yes that's correct.

Common power factorcorrection in AC is foreliminating the reactivepower that doesn't doany work but just heatsthe wires between thepower plant and thereactive load. This isexpensive for the ownersof the powertransmission lines andthus should be avoided.First storing the energyin a capacitor (orinductor or battery) andthen dumping it to anactive load will stillmake the power go injust one direction eventhough it happens inpulses. The energy isthen moving from thesource to the load.Reactive power has theenergy moving to andfrom the load and powersource. The power movingbetween the capacitorand inductor in anLC-tank is pure reactiveexcept for the lossbecause of the parasiticresistance in thecomponents and wires.

Regards
Ole


---In [email protected],<mkjekyll@...>wrote :



Ole,

Disregarding theissue at hand with thepatent terminology andnot concerningourselves with thepatent just a veryhigh Q tank.


If a reactive LC tankcapacitor is thendisconnected from thereactive source thendischarged to aresistive load thenreconnected energizedback to the standingwave modalityrecharged disconnecteddischarged etc.  Ifthe reactive energy isharvested in thismanner are youclaiming the samelosses will occur aspower factorcorrecting thereactive back intoreal power?






On11/15/2018 5:36 PM, onielsen@...[EVGRAY] wrote


  
I have onlyread to thefollowingparagraphcited below. Iwonder if theapplicantknows aboutwhat he iswriting.

Citingparagraph 106of the patentapplication (https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/53/7d/29/f7b4bd0194992d/US20070296373A1.pdf):
"[0106]There isvoltage acrossthe inductorconnected inseries to thecapacitor andthere isvoltage acrossthe inductorconnected inparallel tothe capacitor.SincePower=voltage×current, a single power input produces two branches ofelectromagneticpower output,increasing thepower output.In thealternative,the presentdisclosure mayhave oneelectromagneticpower outputwith lessenergy input."













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Ole & Warren, I did extensive testing on the GUNNING PRINCIPLE which 
Hector and I discussed here on the forum back several years ago. For me 
it started with the Ferroresonance phenomenon which I had envisioned a 
way to purposely bypass all the mitigating steps to prevent the 
phenomenon to setting up a circuit to exploit the Ferroresonant event 
and figure out a way to capture energy.  Thus my folder on EVGRAY TWO, 
Ferroresonance Capture.  In the ferroresonant phenomenon, unbalanced 
conditions trip the circuit into self targeting resonant conditions (non 
linear) which causes voltages to be multiplied by 10X and currents 
likewise.  As warren said, make it happen in a sustained mode and siphon 
off and use this energy.  Problem here is mains are supplying the energy 
which gets around safety breakers and disconnects. Pick up any 20amp 
thermo-magnetic breaker and see on the side of it that the instantaneous 
rating is 10KA (10,000 amps).    My experiments with the big 5HP setup  
was to take the line supply out of the conserved energy equation and get 
the amplified Neutral Spike (EMP).  My small ceiling fan experiments 
were done with 18ga. zip cord line input with all wiring, (hook up) over 
18 ga. wire. Motor windings, both run and shading windings were 22 ga. 
magnet wire. The last destructive test, totally exploded a reversing 
contactor that by parallel wiring of contacts gave a 120 amp capability. 
the contator was totally destroyed. I still think that all of this goes 
back to the Anti-parallel magnetic flux annihilation-reconnect 
phenomenon which produces an EMP event just the same as I experienced in 
all my test.  Thanks Ole for your excellent document on the reversal 
GUNNING charts.   From my experiments, I do not accept this conventional 
explanation as the bottom line.  Sorry, for there is more to the story.  
Additional notes here in the area of big RV experimentation, I sold my 
40 HP Marathon RV to Luther down in Houston after experiencing magnetic 
lockup when clip leading in different cap values.  Highly dangerous with 
such high rotating mass.

I literally had a TON of RV 3 phase motors to play with.

On 11/22/2018 11:40 PM, Warren Keillor [email protected] 
[EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Ole
>
> That is very interesting. 20 times the running current by reversing!
> Can a machine be devised to exploit this current?
> Let us consider how to conceive a motor that gets to speed, and then 
> reverses, capturing all that current, then runs the other direction to 
> hit full speed, then reverses.
> Somehow, I am sure someone must have tried this, faced with some motor 
> drive of something.
> I had to build a full sized aluminium man who could break dance to 
> music for an artist. I was supplied the servos by the artist who was 
> an early pioneer of machine programming, and had matched his very 
> expensive, at that time, permanent magnet chopper driven servos, to 
> his prototype driver boards. I looked at the weenie shafts, and said 
> "no way can these handle the torque, splined or not"
> Sure enough they didn't even lift the honey comb aluminium arm, the 
> motor shearing off its own shaft, with tremendous torque, that that 
> little motor in chopper mode produced.
> I know it is not the same phenomena you are pointing out, it is really 
> about the positive aspect of a very unpleasant mechanical event, we 
> often would rather forget than exploit as a discovery, and make use of.
> 20 times the current indeed!
> Lets take it and use it.
> Cheers Warren
>
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>
>     On Thu, 22 Nov 2018 at 8:55 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]
>     <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>     I just found an article about stopping a motor by reversing it
>     while running. It's called plugging. Below are two figures from
>     the article where one is showing the speed and braking torque and
>     the other one is shoving the current. Here is the article:
>     https://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/general/reversing-3-phase-motor-stop-149599/.
>     Look at the currents. The switch contact points have to carry
>     perhaps 20 times the running current. If they don't have low
>     resistance they're welded or vaporized as the dissipated power is
>     proportional to the current squared. Thus if the current is 20
>     times greater than normal the power dissipation is 400 times
>     greater than normal. If the contacts bounce the formed plasma may
>     dissipate even more power as the resistance becomes greater while
>     the current stays the same.
>     alt
>
>     alt
>     Regards
>     Ole
>
>
>
>     ---In [email protected], <canowindracd@...> wrote :
>
>     Norm,
>
>     Very good info about the EMP. I've had quite a few experiences
>     with it over the years. The last one was with a refrigeration unit
>     being installed by other contractors in a supermarket food store
>     and it blew up the lightning protection unit in the main
>     Switchboard.  We got the blame and we could not convince the owner
>     otherwise and he didn't want to pay for our work of installing the
>     lightning protection unit. Most times it has happened in my
>     experiences has been associated with refrigeration and air
>     conditioning systems.  I did see something unusual with large
>     motors in an off mode turning backwards in a brick-works when the
>     metal detector stopped the motors of the feeding conveyors into
>     the pan mixer. You do see some weird things sometimes and you go
>     away scratching your head.
>
>     George
>
>         On Wednesday, 21 November 2018, 3:21:33 am AEDT, Norman Wootan
>         nwootan@... [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote: 
>
>
>
>     Mick!  I am getting just like Hector here by having to explain
>     something over and over!  I guess short memory is the cause for
>     lack of understanding the whole project. First you have to go back
>     to the 1981 ceiling fan, 1/6th HP capacitor run shaded pole motor
>     problem. A wiring error by a Chinese assembly worker incorrectly
>     wired the capacitor reversing switch into the neutral side of the
>     circuit which provided a total isolation of charge while the
>     switch was in transition from forward operation  to reverse
>     operation. Reversing switch would explode.  This was my first
>     encounter with the phenomenon which I researched and determined
>     that it was a Magneto-Electric effect or better put, Magnetic flux
>     annihilation-reconnect as we now know it. In Physics we have
>     always been taught that energy cannot be destroyed but can change
>     forms as we clearly see by simple experiment. With this knowledge
>     tucked back in the memory bank, I had the occasion to encounter
>     this phenomenon again in around 1984. A wealthy widow had
>     remodeled her expansive Highland Park home (Dallas) and I had
>     installed a projection TV system into her den.   MS. Sharp called
>     and said  she had a Poltergeist in her den. When I arrived she
>     served tea and told me to sit there and wait a few minutes.  The
>     TV screen and projector both started descending from the ceiling
>     then reversed and went back up.  Both these motors were shaded
>     pole, capacitor run design so that switching via wall switch could
>     reverse operation, either up or down against limit switches. Here
>     is the Somfy motor example so you understand how they operate:
>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMHEJ2iIu14&feature=youtu.be When
>     I went into attic to examine the motorized units the phenomenon
>     occurred again. Sure enough the screen and projector descended
>     half way down then reversed and retracted. Over my head was a
>     powered turbo ventilator attic fan of shaded pole design which
>     took off ZIIIIINNNNG , super fast acceleration up to a speed about
>     10X design speed but one big problem was that it took off
>     backwards! The turbine took several minutes to coast down to a
>     stop.  A visit downstairs found that a small appliance like a
>     counter top blender in the kitchen (shaded pole motor) would take
>     off spinning backwards then stop.  The only connection that all
>     these motor had when sitting in a turned off state was a
>     connection to the neutral buss. Interesting fact was that with the
>     very small size motor windings and sudden fantastic acceleration
>     up to very high speed (backwards) did no damage to the motors. I
>     did an inspection to the mains breakers and house wiring including
>     the service cabelling and earth ground at the mains panel. All was
>     up to Dallas Code. While walking in side yard, I found a brand new
>     installation of a 5 ton A/C Condensing unit. in addition to the
>     older 5 ton unit. Both units were earth bonded via the Required
>     (Highland Park Code) 10 ft. ground rod at the units.  Both units
>     were 5  Ton, 230VAC single phase.   While I was looking at the A/C
>     units , the new one tried to start against a locked rotor
>     condition.  From contactor closure to WHUUUUUMP, EMP shot which
>     you could feel the brissance in the ground took about 1/2 second.
>     This was the source of the EMP event which caused the neutral buss
>     to carry this very unusual form of energy.  The A/C guys came out
>     and replaced the compressor and rectified the situation but I came
>     away with a better understanding a very common phenomenon that
>     most do not take time to fully understand nor appreciate the
>     implications.   By studing the ongoing research of the natural
>     occurrence of this EMP phenomenon from Solar magnetic storms
>     Magnetic Annihilation -Reconnect which have been duplicated in
>     Labs gathering better understanding of phenomenon. I elected to
>     bench top duplicate the situation which I had observed back in
>     1984 at the Sharp residence.  Since I was doing HVAC, Electrical
>     and Electronics Contracting, I had many compressors at my disposal
>     just like the one in the Carrier A/C unit.    By hydraulic locking
>     the compressor via filling with oil and pinching off the suction
>     and discharge lines you have a fully locked up sealed unit See:
>
>     This unit utilizes a 40mfd start cap and a 5mfd run cap controlled
>     by current relay.  When energized via 2 pole,230VAC, starter
>     contactor, both the start and run windings are energized. When the
>     Over current relay senses the locked rotor current of 84 amps (
>     motor in magnetic saturation) the circuit is opened leaving the
>     stored energy in total isolation with no ground reference. A
>     NECESSARY CONDITION TO GET THE MAGNETIC FLUX
>     ANNIHILATION-Re-CONNECT PHENOMENON or EMP.     This experiment is
>     something anyone can duplicate and observe the phenomenon for
>     yourself.  The reversible ceiling fan is the simplest and easiest
>     and less expensive to replicate. Most current available reversible
>     fans utilize the electrical capacitor relocation via toggle switch
>     to reverse rotation. All you have to do is open up circuit and
>     re-wire the cap so that you have a momentary loss of ground
>     reference (neutral) while the reversing switch is in transit.
>     Reverse it several times and you will explode switch!   Now Mick,
>     what do you not understand??   I was just too curious to let this
>     go by without finding an answer.   Just remember the Axiom, Energy
>     cannot be destroyed but it can change forms.
>
>     alt
>
>     On 11/19/2018 10:04 AM, Mick mkjekyll@... <mailto:mkjekyll@...>
>     [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>>     Norm,
>>
>>     So why did you first notice this even at a clients, shorted start
>>     cap or seized bearing? Interesting I have noticed a ground rod
>>     near pool equipment with GFI but rarely have seen or can recall
>>     one next to a heat pump or AC unit and 10 feet ground rod damn
>>     that's deeper than a dirt nap.  At 60hz the capacitive coupling
>>     is negligible.
>>
>>     Unless I am misunderstanding something the L1-L2 at the supply
>>     side... coupling to earth would still be at the transformer to
>>     center tap neutral back at the pole then the neutral is ground
>>     bonded at the service. Since it is on the sink side of the
>>     transformer from the utility there is a direct path to ground
>>     through a certain impedance,reactance and reluctance whatever
>>     importance that plays into the event.
>>
>>     On 11/19/2018 4:44 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>     <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>>     Locked means exactly what the term expresses! No rotor motion
>>>     relative to stator!  On the early 5 Ton A/C units they were
>>>     service wired with a 3 conductor wip from service disconnect to
>>>     A/C unit! You had L-1 & L-2 230VAC (hots) and a green earth
>>>     bonding wire to motor and chasis frame. In addition, you had a10
>>>     ft. ground stake into earth ground to bond this outdoor
>>>     installation for safety reasons. When over-current relay (84
>>>     amps) drops out starter contactor there is NO GROUND PATH to
>>>     discipate the charge, both magbetic flux sayuration (Inductive
>>>     power) and the two charged capacitors in the circuit. This
>>>     energy is in an isolated state due to insulation in the motor
>>>     windings and capacitors. Ole will jump in here and say there is
>>>     capacitive coupling between motor frame and isolated capacitance
>>>     and magnetic flux at saturation. I built and did the test on
>>>     this phenomenon after I saw it in real life in a clients back
>>>     yard. Easy to duplicate! The reversible ceiling fan trick can be
>>>     done by anyone by just changing the wiring on the reversing
>>>     capacitor in-order to float neutral while the reversing switch
>>>     is in transition. Simple!   ( BOOM)!!
>>>
>>>     On 11/18/2018 11:15 AM, Mick mkjekyll@... <mailto:mkjekyll@...>
>>>     [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     Norm,
>>>>
>>>>     How did you run the motor in locked mode, by preventing the
>>>>     start cap from energizing?
>>>>
>>>>     When you experimented with the energy from this motor where did
>>>>     you extract the differential, from the green wire running back
>>>>     to the service panel or another grounding rod and from the
>>>>     motor frame where the ground bonding clip usually is or
>>>>     somewhere else?
>>>>
>>>>     Assuming frame on your dual winding induction motor was
>>>>     isolated sink side from the stator windings by their
>>>>     insulation  as you mentioned earlier there was no neutral and
>>>>     on the source side by the center tap in the pole pig?
>>>>
>>>>     Not sure why I was thinking locked was synchronous mode as we
>>>>     discussed earlier the concept of Mag Transmitter is to saturate
>>>>     the core and release, or as Hector likes to say switch off to
>>>>     turn on. Some major issues going on here, head on backwards.
>>>>
>>>>     So impedance does opposite of a LC tank and dropped like a
>>>>     series LC hmmm...
>>>>
>>>>     Thanks,
>>>>
>>>>     Mick
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     On 11/18/2018 3:44 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>     <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>     Thanks! Ole for the explanation! Rotation is required inorder
>>>>>     for counter emf to be generated. In stalled rotor or locked
>>>>>     rotor conditions, the current through the windings is only
>>>>>     limited by R = resitance. My dual winding 5 HP motor in locked
>>>>>     rotor had a combined current draw of 84 amps @ 230VAC input.
>>>>>     When you look at the BH curve on a scope you see the magnetic
>>>>>     flux build to saturation at which point the impedance is = to
>>>>>     Zero ( air value) with R being the only limiting factor.
>>>>>     (Ole). I used the dual winding motor for it has a starting cap
>>>>>     value of 40mfd and a run cap with a value of 5 mfd, both of
>>>>>     which are in circuit when current limiting relay drops circuit
>>>>>     open yielding the Neutral Spike form ground. Magneto Electric
>>>>>     effect. For it to work, the caps and motor windings have to be
>>>>>     isolated from neutral and earth ground reference. the iron
>>>>>     motor frame is earth bonded. Cancellation of energy in
>>>>>     isolation will create an EMP earth ground response. This goes
>>>>>     back to Page 25 of CSN by Tesla himself.
>>>>>
>>>>>     On 11/17/2018 5:12 PM, onielsen@... <mailto:onielsen@...>
>>>>>     [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Locked rotor is when the rotor is prevented from rotating.
>>>>>>     This is also known as stalled rotor.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Synchronous speed is when the rotor follows the rotating
>>>>>>     magnetic wave(s) of the stator. In an induction motor
>>>>>>     (asynchronous motor) this means no power transmission between
>>>>>>     the rotor and the stator. The motor is then working neither
>>>>>>     as motor or generator.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Slip is the ratio between the rotor speed and the rotating
>>>>>>     field speed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Regards
>>>>>>     Ole
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     ---In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>,
>>>>>>     <mkjekyll@...> <mailto:mkjekyll@...> wrote :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Norm,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     I am slowly digesting this but I think my concept of locked
>>>>>>     rotor was/is in error.  Always thought this was when the
>>>>>>     rotor is locked to the rotational field from stator with
>>>>>>     least amount of slip, seems like I am reading now it is most
>>>>>>     amount of slip.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Can you provide what locked rotor means to you and any
>>>>>>     additional information of what you think may be occurring
>>>>>>     beyond the everyday accepted definition?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Mick
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     On 11/16/2018 5:55 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>>>     <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         Mick, Ole, Kone etal!  I have been thinking a lot about
>>>>>>>         my Locked Rotor experiments and did a lot of reading to
>>>>>>>         come up with a fool proof Lenz free motor / generator
>>>>>>>         combination which is so easy to build and proof test!
>>>>>>>         First of all you should read what we know as facts! See
>>>>>>>         the following articles:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         https://www.motioncontroltips.com/faq-what-are-dc-shunt-motors-and-where-are-they-used/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         http://www.machineryspaces.com/direct-current-motors.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         https://www.quora.com/What-will-happen-if-the-back-EMF-of-a-DC-motor-vanishes
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-FPcKgwSzs&feature=youtu.be
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3TFALmHtMw&feature=youtu.be
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         https://www.researchgate.net/post/A_DC_shunt_motor_is_running_at_light_load_what_happens_if_the_field_winding_gets_opened
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         Kone loves to play with the very powerful Neos as found
>>>>>>>         at K&G Magnetics and shown in the video of the Ray's
>>>>>>>         LENZ free generator. What I will propose is very simple
>>>>>>>         application of DC motor principles as read from the
>>>>>>>         cited references. First you make your LENZ free  motor
>>>>>>>         which is in reality a LINEAR MOTOR (Solenoid) which will
>>>>>>>         give the necessary stroke length to drive the LINEAR
>>>>>>>         generator (Coil oscillating within the drag free, LENZ
>>>>>>>         free area of the Neo magnets). Stroke of the solenoid is
>>>>>>>         controlled by Hall sensor and IGBT drive switch to give
>>>>>>>         an excursion rate (stroke) at a frequency of 60 HZ. By
>>>>>>>         using a DC pulse  to drive the solenoid coil it is
>>>>>>>         tricked into being in LOCKED ROTOR condition, thus no
>>>>>>>         LENZ effect.  Has the light come on yet??   We know that
>>>>>>>         Ray's generator puts out a sine wave output (AC) with no
>>>>>>>         LENZ drag. Following the DC motor principles as applied
>>>>>>>         to the solenoid driver, you have a motor that is LENZ
>>>>>>>         free also. The combo should give an Over-unity output.
>>>>>>>         Now the tricky part! We know as Ole will agree in that
>>>>>>>         when you switch the solenoid power to off state as
>>>>>>>         magnetic flux is building toward saturation there will
>>>>>>>         be a huge voltage spike (Neutral Spike) which we have to
>>>>>>>         capture and not send to ground as ordinary practice in
>>>>>>>         solid state switch design (snubber diodes)  The capture
>>>>>>>         of the SPIKE energy (HV) which occurs naturally will be
>>>>>>>         the over-unity factor here! Interesting concept! Think
>>>>>>>         about it! Norm    Mick! (accumulator HV caps)!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         On 11/16/2018 6:23 AM, Mick mkjekyll@...
>>>>>>>         <mailto:mkjekyll@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         Ole,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         I have had caps charge much faster in an LC tank than
>>>>>>>>         otherwise, but it could also have to do with noise in
>>>>>>>>         the core material as I was no using an air inductor.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         On 11/16/2018 1:19 AM, onielsen@...
>>>>>>>>         <mailto:onielsen@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         Hi Mick,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         "If a reactive LC tank capacitor is then disconnected
>>>>>>>>>         from the reactive source then discharged to a
>>>>>>>>>         resistive load then reconnected energized back to the
>>>>>>>>>         standing wave modality recharged disconnected
>>>>>>>>>         discharged etc.  If the reactive energy is harvested
>>>>>>>>>         in this manner are you claiming the same losses will
>>>>>>>>>         occur as power factor correcting the reactive back
>>>>>>>>>         into real power?"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         Yes that's correct.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         Common power factor correction in AC is for
>>>>>>>>>         eliminating the reactive power that doesn't do any
>>>>>>>>>         work but just heats the wires between the power plant
>>>>>>>>>         and the reactive load. This is expensive for the
>>>>>>>>>         owners of the power transmission lines and thus should
>>>>>>>>>         be avoided. First storing the energy in a capacitor
>>>>>>>>>         (or inductor or battery) and then dumping it to an
>>>>>>>>>         active load will still make the power go in just one
>>>>>>>>>         direction even though it happens in pulses. The energy
>>>>>>>>>         is then moving from the source to the load. Reactive
>>>>>>>>>         power has the energy moving to and from the load and
>>>>>>>>>         power source. The power moving between the capacitor
>>>>>>>>>         and inductor in an LC-tank is pure reactive except for
>>>>>>>>>         the loss because of the parasitic resistance in the
>>>>>>>>>         components and wires.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         Regards
>>>>>>>>>         Ole
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         ---In [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]>, <mkjekyll@...>
>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:mkjekyll@...> wrote :
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         Ole,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         Disregarding the issue at hand with the patent
>>>>>>>>>         terminology and not concerning ourselves with the
>>>>>>>>>         patent just a very high Q tank.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         If a reactive LC tank capacitor is then disconnected
>>>>>>>>>         from the reactive source then discharged to a
>>>>>>>>>         resistive load then reconnected energized back to the
>>>>>>>>>         standing wave modality recharged disconnected
>>>>>>>>>         discharged etc.  If the reactive energy is harvested
>>>>>>>>>         in this manner are you claiming the same losses will
>>>>>>>>>         occur as power factor correcting the reactive back
>>>>>>>>>         into real power?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         On 11/15/2018 5:36 PM, onielsen@...
>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:onielsen@...> [EVGRAY] wrote
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>             I have only read to the following paragraph cited
>>>>>>>>>>             below. I wonder if the applicant knows about what
>>>>>>>>>>             he is writing.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>             Citing paragraph 106 of the patent application
>>>>>>>>>>             (https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/53/7d/29/f7b4bd0194992d/US20070296373A1.pdf):
>>>>>>>>>>             "[0106] There is voltage across the inductor
>>>>>>>>>>             connected in series to the capacitor and there is
>>>>>>>>>>             voltage across the inductor connected in parallel
>>>>>>>>>>             to the capacitor. Since Power=voltage×current, a
>>>>>>>>>>             single power input produces two branches of
>>>>>>>>>>             electromagnetic power output, increasing the
>>>>>>>>>>             power output. In the alternative, the present
>>>>>>>>>>             disclosure may have one electromagnetic power
>>>>>>>>>>             output with less energy input."
>>>>>>>>>>
>

George, excellent observation regarding the EMP event relationship with 
air conditioning and refrigeration equipment. It is due to the fact that 
this type of mostly hermetic design compressors start with severe loads 
on the rotor therefore have both start and run windings with appropriate 
capacitance values to enable for them to roll off under load.  That is 
why Hard Start kits are provided to assist a locked rotor boost in 
rolling off. Other motors in Industry are not built for operation like 
this severe environment.  A lot of single phase shop motors have the 
dual capacitors and centrifugal internal switches to enable start up.  
Am EMP pulse will cause some induction motor to run backwards even where 
turned off for the energy enters the motor via the grounding circuits, 
both neutral and earth ground.  Very common thing if you are astute 
enough to recognize it.

On 11/22/2018 6:32 PM, george gray [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
> Norm,
>
> Very good info about the EMP.  I've had quite a few experiences with 
> it over the years. The last one was with a refrigeration unit being 
> installed by other contractors in a supermarket food store and it blew 
> up the lightning protection unit in the main Switchboard. We got the 
> blame and we could not convince the owner otherwise and he didn't want 
> to pay for our work of installing the lightning protection unit. Most 
> times it has happened in my experiences has been associated with 
> refrigeration and air conditioning systems.  I did see something 
> unusual with large motors in an off mode turning backwards in a 
> brick-works when the metal detector stopped the motors of the feeding 
> conveyors into the pan mixer. You do see some weird things sometimes 
> and you go away scratching your head.
>
> George
>
> On Wednesday, 21 November 2018, 3:21:33 am AEDT, Norman Wootan 
> [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Mick!  I am getting just like Hector here by having to explain 
> something over and over!  I guess short memory is the cause for lack 
> of understanding the whole project.   First you have to go back to the 
> 1981 ceiling fan, 1/6th HP capacitor run shaded pole motor problem. A 
> wiring error by a Chinese assembly worker incorrectly wired the 
> capacitor reversing switch into the neutral side of the circuit which 
> provided a total isolation of charge while the switch was in 
> transition from forward operation  to reverse operation. Reversing 
> switch would explode.  This was my first encounter with the phenomenon 
> which I researched and determined that it was a Magneto-Electric 
> effect or better put, Magnetic flux annihilation-reconnect as we now 
> know it. In Physics we have always been taught that energy cannot be 
> destroyed but can change forms as we clearly see by simple experiment. 
> With this knowledge tucked back in the memory bank, I had the occasion 
> to encounter this phenomenon again in around 1984. A wealthy widow had 
> remodeled her expansive Highland Park home (Dallas) and I had 
> installed a projection TV system into her den.   MS. Sharp called and 
> said  she had a Poltergeist in her den. When I arrived she served tea 
> and told me to sit there and wait a few minutes.  The TV screen and 
> projector both started descending from the ceiling then reversed and 
> went back up.  Both these motors were shaded pole, capacitor run 
> design so that switching via wall switch could reverse operation, 
> either up or down against limit switches. Here is the Somfy motor 
> example so you understand how they operate: 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMHEJ2iIu14&feature=youtu.be When I 
> went into attic to examine the motorized units the phenomenon occurred 
> again. Sure enough the screen and projector descended half way down 
> then reversed and retracted. Over my head was a powered turbo 
> ventilator attic fan of shaded pole design which took off ZIIIIINNNNG 
> , super fast acceleration up to a speed about 10X design speed but one 
> big problem was that it took off backwards! The turbine took several 
> minutes to coast down to a stop.  A visit downstairs found that a 
> small appliance like a counter top blender in the kitchen (shaded pole 
> motor) would take off spinning backwards then stop.  The only 
> connection that all these motor had when sitting in a turned off state 
> was a connection to the neutral buss. Interesting fact was that with 
> the very small size motor windings and sudden fantastic acceleration 
> up to very high speed (backwards) did no damage to the motors. I did 
> an inspection to the mains breakers and house wiring including the 
> service cabelling and earth ground at the mains panel. All was up to 
> Dallas Code. While walking in side yard, I found a brand new 
> installation of a 5 ton A/C Condensing unit. in addition to the older 
> 5 ton unit. Both units were earth bonded via the Required (Highland 
> Park Code) 10 ft. ground rod at the units.  Both units were 5  Ton, 
> 230VAC single phase.   While I was looking at the A/C units , the new 
> one tried to start against a locked rotor condition.  From contactor 
> closure to WHUUUUUMP, EMP shot which you could feel the brissance in 
> the ground took about 1/2 second.  This was the source of the EMP 
> event which caused the neutral buss to carry this very unusual form of 
> energy. The A/C guys came out and replaced the compressor and 
> rectified the situation but I came away with a better understanding a 
> very common phenomenon that most do not take time to fully understand 
> nor appreciate the implications.   By studing the ongoing research of 
> the natural occurrence of this EMP phenomenon from Solar magnetic 
> storms Magnetic Annihilation -Reconnect which have been duplicated in 
> Labs gathering better understanding of phenomenon. I elected to bench 
> top duplicate the situation which I had observed back in 1984 at the 
> Sharp residence.  Since I was doing HVAC, Electrical and Electronics 
> Contracting, I had many compressors at my disposal just like the one 
> in the Carrier A/C unit. By hydraulic locking the compressor via 
> filling with oil and pinching off the suction and discharge lines you 
> have a fully locked up sealed unit See:
>
> This unit utilizes a 40mfd start cap and a 5mfd run cap controlled by 
> current relay.  When energized via 2 pole,230VAC, starter contactor, 
> both the start and run windings are energized. When the Over current 
> relay senses the locked rotor current of 84 amps ( motor in magnetic 
> saturation) the circuit is opened leaving the stored energy in total 
> isolation with no ground reference.  A NECESSARY CONDITION TO GET THE 
> MAGNETIC FLUX ANNIHILATION-Re-CONNECT PHENOMENON or EMP.     This 
> experiment is something anyone can duplicate and observe the 
> phenomenon for yourself.  The reversible ceiling fan is the simplest 
> and easiest and less expensive to replicate. Most current available 
> reversible fans utilize the electrical capacitor relocation via toggle 
> switch to reverse rotation.  All you have to do is open up circuit and 
> re-wire the cap so that you have a momentary loss of ground reference 
> (neutral) while the reversing switch is in transit. Reverse it several 
> times and you will explode switch!   Now Mick, what do you not 
> understand??   I was just too curious to let this go by without 
> finding an answer.   Just remember the Axiom, Energy cannot be 
> destroyed but it can change forms.
>
> alt
>
> On 11/19/2018 10:04 AM, Mick [email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>> Norm,
>>
>> So why did you first notice this even at a clients, shorted start cap 
>> or seized bearing?     Interesting I have noticed a ground rod near 
>> pool equipment with GFI but rarely have seen or can recall one next 
>> to a heat pump or AC unit and 10 feet ground rod damn that's deeper 
>> than a dirt nap.  At 60hz the capacitive coupling is negligible.
>>
>> Unless I am misunderstanding something the L1-L2 at the supply 
>> side... coupling to earth would still be at the transformer to center 
>> tap neutral back at the pole then the neutral is ground bonded at the 
>> service.  Since it is on the sink side of the transformer from the 
>> utility there is a direct path to ground through a certain 
>> impedance,reactance and reluctance whatever importance that plays 
>> into the event.
>>
>> On 11/19/2018 4:44 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>> Locked means exactly what the term expresses! No rotor motion 
>>> relative to stator!  On the early 5 Ton A/C units they were service 
>>> wired with a 3 conductor wip from service disconnect to A/C unit! 
>>> You had L-1 & L-2 230VAC (hots) and a green earth bonding wire to 
>>> motor and chasis frame. In addition, you had a10 ft. ground stake 
>>> into earth ground to bond this outdoor installation for safety 
>>> reasons.    When over-current relay (84 amps) drops out starter 
>>> contactor there is NO GROUND PATH to discipate the charge, both 
>>> magbetic flux sayuration (Inductive power) and the two charged 
>>> capacitors in the circuit.  This energy is in an isolated state due 
>>> to insulation in the motor windings and capacitors.   Ole will jump 
>>> in here and say there is capacitive coupling between motor frame and 
>>> isolated capacitance and magnetic flux at saturation.    I built and 
>>> did the test on this phenomenon after I saw it in real life in a 
>>> clients back yard.  Easy to duplicate!  The reversible ceiling fan 
>>> trick can be done by anyone by just changing the wiring on the 
>>> reversing capacitor in-order to float neutral while the reversing 
>>> switch is in transition. Simple!   ( BOOM)!!
>>>
>>> On 11/18/2018 11:15 AM, Mick [email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Norm,
>>>>
>>>> How did you run the motor in locked mode, by preventing the start 
>>>> cap from energizing?
>>>>
>>>> When you experimented with the energy from this motor where did you 
>>>> extract the differential, from the green wire running back to the 
>>>> service panel or another grounding rod and from the motor frame 
>>>> where the ground bonding clip usually is or somewhere else?
>>>>
>>>> Assuming frame on your dual winding induction motor was isolated 
>>>> sink side from the stator windings by their insulation  as you 
>>>> mentioned earlier there was no neutral and on the source side by 
>>>> the center tap in the pole pig?
>>>>
>>>> Not sure why I was thinking locked was synchronous mode as we 
>>>> discussed earlier the concept of Mag Transmitter is to saturate the 
>>>> core and release, or as Hector likes to say switch off to turn on.  
>>>> Some major issues going on here, head on backwards.
>>>>
>>>> So impedance does opposite of a LC tank and dropped like a series 
>>>> LC hmmm...
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Mick
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11/18/2018 3:44 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] 
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks! Ole for the explanation!  Rotation is required inorder for 
>>>>> counter emf to be generated. In stalled rotor or locked rotor 
>>>>> conditions, the current through the windings is only limited by R 
>>>>> = resitance. My dual winding 5 HP motor in locked rotor had a 
>>>>> combined current draw of 84 amps @ 230VAC input. When you look at 
>>>>> the BH curve on a scope you see the magnetic flux build to 
>>>>> saturation at which point the impedance is = to Zero ( air value) 
>>>>> with R being the only limiting factor. (Ole). I used the dual 
>>>>> winding motor for it has a starting cap value of 40mfd and a run 
>>>>> cap with a value of 5 mfd, both of which are in circuit when 
>>>>> current limiting relay drops circuit open yielding the Neutral 
>>>>> Spike form ground. Magneto Electric effect. For it to work, the 
>>>>> caps and motor windings have to be isolated from neutral and earth 
>>>>> ground reference.  the iron motor frame is earth bonded. 
>>>>> Cancellation of energy in isolation will create an EMP earth 
>>>>> ground response.  This goes back to Page 25 of CSN by Tesla himself.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/17/2018 5:12 PM, [email protected] 
>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Locked rotor is when the rotor is prevented from rotating. This 
>>>>>> is also known as stalled rotor.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Synchronous speed is when the rotor follows the rotating magnetic 
>>>>>> wave(s) of the stator. In an induction motor (asynchronous motor) 
>>>>>> this means no power transmission between the rotor and the 
>>>>>> stator. The motor is then working neither as motor or generator.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Slip is the ratio between the rotor speed and the rotating field 
>>>>>> speed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> Ole
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>, 
>>>>>> <mkjekyll@...> <mailto:mkjekyll@...> wrote :
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Norm,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am slowly digesting this but I think my concept of locked rotor 
>>>>>> was/is in error. Always thought this was when the rotor is locked 
>>>>>> to the rotational field from stator with least amount of slip, 
>>>>>> seems like I am reading now it is most amount of slip.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can you provide what locked rotor means to you and any additional 
>>>>>> information of what you think may be occurring beyond the 
>>>>>> everyday accepted definition?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mick
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/16/2018 5:55 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... 
>>>>>> <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Mick, Ole, Kone etal!  I have been thinking a lot about my
>>>>>>>     Locked Rotor experiments and did a lot of reading to come up
>>>>>>>     with a fool proof Lenz free motor / generator combination
>>>>>>>     which is so easy to build and proof test! First of all you
>>>>>>>     should read what we know as facts! See the following articles:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     https://www.motioncontroltips.com/faq-what-are-dc-shunt-motors-and-where-are-they-used/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     http://www.machineryspaces.com/direct-current-motors.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     https://www.quora.com/What-will-happen-if-the-back-EMF-of-a-DC-motor-vanishes
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-FPcKgwSzs&feature=youtu.be
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3TFALmHtMw&feature=youtu.be
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     https://www.researchgate.net/post/A_DC_shunt_motor_is_running_at_light_load_what_happens_if_the_field_winding_gets_opened
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Kone loves to play with the very powerful Neos as found at
>>>>>>>     K&G Magnetics and shown in the video of the Ray's LENZ free
>>>>>>>     generator. What I will propose is very simple application of
>>>>>>>     DC motor principles as read from the cited references. First
>>>>>>>     you make your LENZ free  motor which is in reality a LINEAR
>>>>>>>     MOTOR (Solenoid) which will give the necessary stroke length
>>>>>>>     to drive the LINEAR generator (Coil oscillating within the
>>>>>>>     drag free, LENZ free area of the Neo magnets). Stroke of the
>>>>>>>     solenoid is controlled by Hall sensor and IGBT drive switch
>>>>>>>     to give an excursion rate (stroke) at a frequency of 60 HZ.
>>>>>>>     By using a DC pulse  to drive the solenoid coil it is
>>>>>>>     tricked into being in LOCKED ROTOR condition, thus no LENZ
>>>>>>>     effect.  Has the light come on yet??   We know that Ray's
>>>>>>>     generator puts out a sine wave output (AC) with no LENZ
>>>>>>>     drag. Following the DC motor principles as applied to the
>>>>>>>     solenoid driver, you have a motor that is LENZ free also.
>>>>>>>     The combo should give an Over-unity output. Now the tricky
>>>>>>>     part!  We know as Ole will agree in that when you switch the
>>>>>>>     solenoid power to off state as magnetic flux is building
>>>>>>>     toward saturation there will be a huge voltage spike
>>>>>>>     (Neutral Spike) which we have to capture and not send to
>>>>>>>     ground as ordinary practice in solid state switch design
>>>>>>>     (snubber diodes)  The capture of the SPIKE energy (HV) which
>>>>>>>     occurs naturally will be the over-unity factor here!
>>>>>>>     Interesting concept! Think about it!  Norm Mick!
>>>>>>>     (accumulator HV caps)!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     On 11/16/2018 6:23 AM, Mick mkjekyll@...
>>>>>>>     <mailto:mkjekyll@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Ole,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     I have had caps charge much faster in an LC tank than
>>>>>>>>     otherwise, but it could also have to do with noise in the
>>>>>>>>     core material as I was no using an air inductor.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     On 11/16/2018 1:19 AM, onielsen@... <mailto:onielsen@...>
>>>>>>>>     [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     Hi Mick,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     "If a reactive LC tank capacitor is then disconnected from
>>>>>>>>>     the reactive source then discharged to a resistive load
>>>>>>>>>     then reconnected energized back to the standing wave
>>>>>>>>>     modality recharged disconnected discharged etc.  If the
>>>>>>>>>     reactive energy is harvested in this manner are you
>>>>>>>>>     claiming the same losses will occur as power factor
>>>>>>>>>     correcting the reactive back into real power?"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     Yes that's correct.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     Common power factor correction in AC is for eliminating
>>>>>>>>>     the reactive power that doesn't do any work but just heats
>>>>>>>>>     the wires between the power plant and the reactive load.
>>>>>>>>>     This is expensive for the owners of the power transmission
>>>>>>>>>     lines and thus should be avoided. First storing the energy
>>>>>>>>>     in a capacitor (or inductor or battery) and then dumping
>>>>>>>>>     it to an active load will still make the power go in just
>>>>>>>>>     one direction even though it happens in pulses. The energy
>>>>>>>>>     is then moving from the source to the load. Reactive power
>>>>>>>>>     has the energy moving to and from the load and power
>>>>>>>>>     source. The power moving between the capacitor and
>>>>>>>>>     inductor in an LC-tank is pure reactive except for the
>>>>>>>>>     loss because of the parasitic resistance in the components
>>>>>>>>>     and wires.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     Regards
>>>>>>>>>     Ole
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     ---In [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]>, <mkjekyll@...>
>>>>>>>>>     <mailto:mkjekyll@...> wrote :
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     Ole,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     Disregarding the issue at hand with the patent terminology
>>>>>>>>>     and not concerning ourselves with the patent just a very
>>>>>>>>>     high Q tank.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     If a reactive LC tank capacitor is then disconnected from
>>>>>>>>>     the reactive source then discharged to a resistive load
>>>>>>>>>     then reconnected energized back to the standing wave
>>>>>>>>>     modality recharged disconnected discharged etc.  If the
>>>>>>>>>     reactive energy is harvested in this manner are you
>>>>>>>>>     claiming the same losses will occur as power factor
>>>>>>>>>     correcting the reactive back into real power?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     On 11/15/2018 5:36 PM, onielsen@... <mailto:onielsen@...>
>>>>>>>>>     [EVGRAY] wrote
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         I have only read to the following paragraph cited
>>>>>>>>>>         below. I wonder if the applicant knows about what he
>>>>>>>>>>         is writing.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         Citing paragraph 106 of the patent application
>>>>>>>>>>         (https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/53/7d/29/f7b4bd0194992d/US20070296373A1.pdf):
>>>>>>>>>>         "[0106] There is voltage across the inductor
>>>>>>>>>>         connected in series to the capacitor and there is
>>>>>>>>>>         voltage across the inductor connected in parallel to
>>>>>>>>>>         the capacitor. Since Power=voltage×current, a single
>>>>>>>>>>         power input produces two branches of electromagnetic
>>>>>>>>>>         power output, increasing the power output. In the
>>>>>>>>>>         alternative, the present disclosure may have one
>>>>>>>>>>         electromagnetic power output with less energy input."
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         alt
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         It isn't as simple as this. If using an oscilloscope
>>>>>>>>>>         for measuring the current and voltage it will show
>>>>>>>>>>         some phase displacement between the current and
>>>>>>>>>>         voltage which means reactive power. Look at the
>>>>>>>>>>         following small videos to see how one can be misled
>>>>>>>>>>         if not knowing how the phase between the current and
>>>>>>>>>>         voltage is: Only the the resistive part consumes
>>>>>>>>>>         (transforms) energy like R in figure 8.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         alt
>>>>>>>>>>         0:42
>>>>>>>>>>         <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJEZMCCBV3U>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>               Overunity Device Cop 2,5 ? explanation part 3.
>>>>>>>>>>               <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJEZMCCBV3U>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         9.5K views5 years ago
>>>>>>>>>>         alt
>>>>>>>>>>         1:01
>>>>>>>>>>         <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jamj3-2w0eE>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>               Overunity Device Cop 2,5 ? explanation part 2.
>>>>>>>>>>               <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jamj3-2w0eE>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         10K views5 years ago
>>>>>>>>>
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