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http://13571113.blogspot.com/2012/12/flux-compression-generator-magnetic.html
Mick! some interesting items here such as Permanent magnet flux source
which eliminates the capacitors and HV requirements!
On 11/21/2018 6:24 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>
> Thanks! James, I am very well versed on all of Bedini's work. Welcome
> to the Mick & Norm conversation for all input is welcome! All of
> this goes way, way back to 1899 when Tesla was into improving Telegraphy.
>
> On 11/20/2018 8:30 PM, James Glinski [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>> Norm who were you talking to ?
>>
>> The Bedini ground was just a source to drag up more electrons past
>> the diodes going to the caps in response to the hivoltage pluse .
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 20, 2018, Mick [email protected]
>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>> Norm,
>>
>> OK thanks back to the bench, need to check BH on the battery
>> setup again...
>>
>>
>> On 11/20/2018 3:01 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected]
>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>> I see that you still have not had your LIGHT COME ON YET. You
>>> are dwelling on the source side of the circuit which is not the
>>> answer. Simply put, you have to create the condition where you
>>> have a totally isolated charged inductor and charged capacitors
>>> (TOTALLY ISOLATED) from any ground reference. Energy simply
>>> cannot vanish into empty space. My 5 HP motor experiment
>>> accomplished the isolation condition and when the energy was
>>> annihilated, inductor energy & capacitor energy cancelled , I
>>> got the EMP response from the earth side of the circuit. To
>>> hell with the source, for once the inductor is flux loaded, to
>>> saturation and capacitors are charged, then the source is
>>> totally out of the equation. Once that starting contactor opens
>>> the source is no longer a factor. In all of my trials with this,
>>> I have never seen any degrading or rupture of dielectric
>>> material nor damage to any wiring, no matter how small. The
>>> energy is in the form of a very high freq (RF event) with very
>>> high current but no damage to small appliance motors. I lived
>>> in a Dallas neighborhood that had a power distribution sub
>>> station just down the street from me. Numerous times during
>>> lightning storms I had been awakened by my VHS VCR, old top
>>> loader, (turned off) tape mechanism start up and start to eject
>>> tape, get half way and reverse and put tape back down as before
>>> it started. Like a 1/2 cycle operation. This was sort of the
>>> same EMP neutral side surge which affected the tape drive
>>> mechanism. People see the sort of thing but are not smart
>>> enough to question why they happen! Sorry to say that most
>>> of my experimentation was done on the KEELY BBS and was a closed
>>> group.
>>>
>>> On 11/20/2018 11:33 AM, Mick [email protected]
>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Norm,
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for the in depth post of your experience uncovering
>>>> this event. Sorry to frustrate you with what seem like
>>>> repetitive questions. Everything here is understood. My
>>>> question had to do with the source side of the whole systemic
>>>> occurrence and not that I don't understand just that I like
>>>> things to be very succinct in my small brain, therefore I was
>>>> trying to map out the circuit including all E and B field
>>>> connections in order that for instance the ceiling fan
>>>> experiment be replicated from a battery inverter source without
>>>> connection to the utility. In other words the DUH I brought up
>>>> the other week. You have explained the phenomenon and it's
>>>> creation many times but seem to have left out the functions
>>>> from the source side of the circuit and how that interacts with
>>>> the whole experiment and magnetic connect-anniliation-reconnect.
>>>>
>>>> I have successfully replicated the shots to larger and smaller
>>>> scale while using the utility sourced power but not yet
>>>> reliably from an inverter driven isolated system so attempting
>>>> to determine the best way to move forward on the source side
>>>> without burning up any more devices or at least a minimum so.
>>>> I think I need to procure an iso transformer with a center tap
>>>> and ground it on the sink side to the center tap in order there
>>>> is the magnetic connection to the earth on source side in the
>>>> first place not just the ground rod on the sink side of the
>>>> experiment. Otherwise part two will require a giant stepdown
>>>> of similar proportions to a pole pig. Just trying to
>>>> streamline and keep expenses low.
>>>>
>>>> I hope the above does not further frustrate you but rather
>>>> conveys the why of my question which I can see seemed to be
>>>> circular and puerile. Sorry to offend.
>>>>
>>>> By the way I don't know if you had posted this story before but
>>>> with Yahoo and search and all your references to the neutral
>>>> spike event I have never uncovered it.
>>>>
>>>> Thank again!
>>>>
>>>> On 11/20/2018 6:58 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected]
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Mick! I am getting just like Hector here by having to explain
>>>>> something over and over! I guess short memory is the cause
>>>>> for lack of understanding the whole project. First you have
>>>>> to go back to the 1981 ceiling fan, 1/6th HP capacitor run
>>>>> shaded pole motor problem. A wiring error by a Chinese
>>>>> assembly worker incorrectly wired the capacitor reversing
>>>>> switch into the neutral side of the circuit which provided a
>>>>> total isolation of charge while the switch was in transition
>>>>> from forward operation to reverse operation. Reversing switch
>>>>> would explode. This was my first encounter with the
>>>>> phenomenon which I researched and determined that it was a
>>>>> Magneto-Electric effect or better put, Magnetic flux
>>>>> annihilation-reconnect as we now know it. In Physics we have
>>>>> always been taught that energy cannot be destroyed but can
>>>>> change forms as we clearly see by simple experiment. With this
>>>>> knowledge tucked back in the memory bank, I had the occasion
>>>>> to encounter this phenomenon again in around 1984. A wealthy
>>>>> widow had remodeled her expansive Highland Park home (Dallas)
>>>>> and I had installed a projection TV system into her den. MS.
>>>>> Sharp called and said she had a Poltergeist in her den. When
>>>>> I arrived she served tea and told me to sit there and wait a
>>>>> few minutes. The TV screen and projector both started
>>>>> descending from the ceiling then reversed and went back up.
>>>>> Both these motors were shaded pole, capacitor run design so
>>>>> that switching via wall switch could reverse operation, either
>>>>> up or down against limit switches. Here is the Somfy motor
>>>>> example so you understand how they operate:
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMHEJ2iIu14&feature=youtu.be
>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMHEJ2iIu14&feature=youtu.be>
>>>>> When I went into attic to examine the motorized units the
>>>>> phenomenon occurred again. Sure enough the screen and
>>>>> projector descended half way down then reversed and retracted.
>>>>> Over my head was a powered turbo ventilator attic fan of
>>>>> shaded pole design which took off ZIIIIINNNNG , super fast
>>>>> acceleration up to a speed about 10X design speed but one big
>>>>> problem was that it took off backwards! The turbine took
>>>>> several minutes to coast down to a stop. A visit downstairs
>>>>> found that a small appliance like a counter top blender in the
>>>>> kitchen (shaded pole motor) would take off spinning backwards
>>>>> then stop. The only connection that all these motor had when
>>>>> sitting in a turned off state was a connection to the neutral
>>>>> buss. Interesting fact was that with the very small size
>>>>> motor windings and sudden fantastic acceleration up to very
>>>>> high speed (backwards) did no damage to the motors. I did an
>>>>> inspection to the mains breakers and house wiring including
>>>>> the service cabelling and earth ground at the mains panel. All
>>>>> was up to Dallas Code. While walking in side yard, I found a
>>>>> brand new installation of a 5 ton A/C Condensing unit. in
>>>>> addition to the older 5 ton unit. Both units were earth bonded
>>>>> via the Required (Highland Park Code) 10 ft. ground rod at the
>>>>> units. Both units were 5 Ton, 230VAC single phase. While I
>>>>> was looking at the A/C units , the new one tried to start
>>>>> against a locked rotor condition. From contactor closure to
>>>>> WHUUUUUMP, EMP shot which you could feel the brissance in the
>>>>> ground took about 1/2 second. This was the source of the EMP
>>>>> event which caused the neutral buss to carry this very unusual
>>>>> form of energy. The A/C guys came out and replaced the
>>>>> compressor and rectified the situation but I came away with a
>>>>> better understanding a very common phenomenon that most do not
>>>>> take time to fully understand nor appreciate the implications.
>>>>> By studing the ongoing research of the natural occurrence of
>>>>> this EMP phenomenon from Solar magnetic storms Magnetic
>>>>> Annihilation -Reconnect which have been duplicated in Labs
>>>>> gathering better understanding of phenomenon. I elected to
>>>>> bench top duplicate the situation which I had observed back in
>>>>> 1984 at the Sharp residence. Since I was doing HVAC,
>>>>> Electrical and Electronics Contracting, I had many compressors
>>>>> at my disposal just like the one in the Carrier A/C unit.
>>>>> By hydraulic locking the compressor via filling with oil and
>>>>> pinching off the suction and discharge lines you have a fully
>>>>> locked up sealed unit See:
>>>>>
>>>>> This unit utilizes a 40mfd start cap and a 5mfd run cap
>>>>> controlled by current relay. When energized via 2 pole,230VAC,
>>>>> starter contactor, both the start and run windings are
>>>>> energized. When the Over current relay senses the locked rotor
>>>>> current of 84 amps ( motor in magnetic saturation) the circuit
>>>>> is opened leaving the stored energy in total isolation with no
>>>>> ground reference. A NECESSARY CONDITION TO GET THE MAGNETIC
>>>>> FLUX ANNIHILATION-Re-CONNECT PHENOMENON or EMP. This
>>>>> experiment is something anyone can duplicate and observe the
>>>>> phenomenon for yourself. The reversible ceiling fan is the
>>>>> simplest and easiest and less expensive to replicate. Most
>>>>> current available reversible fans utilize the electrical
>>>>> capacitor relocation via toggle switch to reverse rotation.
>>>>> All you have to do is open up circuit and re-wire the cap so
>>>>> that you have a momentary loss of ground reference (neutral)
>>>>> while the reversing switch is in transit. Reverse it several
>>>>> times and you will explode switch! Now Mick, what do you not
>>>>> understand?? I was just too curious to let this go by
>>>>> without finding an answer. Just remember the Axiom, Energy
>>>>> cannot be destroyed but it can change forms.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/19/2018 10:04 AM, Mick [email protected]
>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Norm,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So why did you first notice this even at a clients, shorted
>>>>>> start cap or seized bearing? Interesting I have noticed a
>>>>>> ground rod near pool equipment with GFI but rarely have seen
>>>>>> or can recall one next to a heat pump or AC unit and 10 feet
>>>>>> ground rod damn that's deeper than a dirt nap. At 60hz the
>>>>>> capacitive coupling is negligible.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Unless I am misunderstanding something the L1-L2 at the
>>>>>> supply side... coupling to earth would still be at the
>>>>>> transformer to center tap neutral back at the pole then the
>>>>>> neutral is ground bonded at the service. Since it is on the
>>>>>> sink side of the transformer from the utility there is a
>>>>>> direct path to ground through a certain impedance,reactance
>>>>>> and reluctance whatever importance that plays into the event.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/19/2018 4:44 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected]
>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Locked means exactly what the term expresses! No rotor
>>>>>>> motion relative to stator! On the early 5 Ton A/C units
>>>>>>> they were service wired with a 3 conductor wip from service
>>>>>>> disconnect to A/C unit! You had L-1 & L-2 230VAC (hots) and
>>>>>>> a green earth bonding wire to motor and chasis frame. In
>>>>>>> addition, you had a10 ft. ground stake into earth ground to
>>>>>>> bond this outdoor installation for safety reasons. When
>>>>>>> over-current relay (84 amps) drops out starter contactor
>>>>>>> there is NO GROUND PATH to discipate the charge, both
>>>>>>> magbetic flux sayuration (Inductive power) and the two
>>>>>>> charged capacitors in the circuit. This energy is in an
>>>>>>> isolated state due to insulation in the motor windings and
>>>>>>> capacitors. Ole will jump in here and say there is
>>>>>>> capacitive coupling between motor frame and isolated
>>>>>>> capacitance and magnetic flux at saturation. I built and
>>>>>>> did the test on this phenomenon after I saw it in real life
>>>>>>> in a clients back yard. Easy to duplicate! The reversible
>>>>>>> ceiling fan trick can be done by anyone by just changing the
>>>>>>> wiring on the reversing capacitor in-order to float neutral
>>>>>>> while the reversing switch is in transition. Simple! (
>>>>>>> BOOM)!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11/18/2018 11:15 AM, Mick [email protected]
>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Norm,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How did you run the motor in locked mode, by preventing the
>>>>>>>> start cap from energizing?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When you experimented with the energy from this motor where
>>>>>>>> did you extract the differential, from the green wire
>>>>>>>> running back to the service panel or another grounding rod
>>>>>>>> and from the motor frame where the ground bonding clip
>>>>>>>> usually is or somewhere else?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Assuming frame on your dual winding induction motor was
>>>>>>>> isolated sink side from the stator windings by their
>>>>>>>> insulation as you mentioned earlier there was no neutral
>>>>>>>> and on the source side by the center tap in the pole pig?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not sure why I was thinking locked was synchronous mode as
>>>>>>>> we discussed earlier the concept of Mag Transmitter is to
>>>>>>>> saturate the core and release, or as Hector likes to say
>>>>>>>> switch off to turn on. Some major issues going on here,
>>>>>>>> head on backwards.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So impedance does opposite of a LC tank and dropped like a
>>>>>>>> series LC hmmm...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mick
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 11/18/2018 3:44 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected]
>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks! Ole for the explanation! Rotation is required
>>>>>>>>> inorder for counter emf to be generated. In stalled rotor
>>>>>>>>> or locked rotor conditions, the current through the
>>>>>>>>> windings is only limited by R = resitance. My dual winding
>>>>>>>>> 5 HP motor in locked rotor had a combined current draw of
>>>>>>>>> 84 amps @ 230VAC input. When you look at the BH curve on a
>>>>>>>>> scope you see the magnetic flux build to saturation at
>>>>>>>>> which point the impedance is = to Zero ( air value) with R
>>>>>>>>> being the only limiting factor. (Ole). I used the dual
>>>>>>>>> winding motor for it has a starting cap value of 40mfd and
>>>>>>>>> a run cap with a value of 5 mfd, both of which are in
>>>>>>>>> circuit when current limiting relay drops circuit open
>>>>>>>>> yielding the Neutral Spike form ground. Magneto Electric
>>>>>>>>> effect. For it to work, the caps and motor windings have
>>>>>>>>> to be isolated from neutral and earth ground reference.
>>>>>>>>> the iron motor frame is earth bonded. Cancellation of
>>>>>>>>> energy in isolation will create an EMP earth ground
>>>>>>>>> response. This goes back to Page 25 of CSN by Tesla himself.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 11/17/2018 5:12 PM, [email protected]
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Locked rotor is when the rotor is prevented from
>>>>>>>>>> rotating. This is also known as stalled rotor.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Synchronous speed is when the rotor follows the rotating
>>>>>>>>>> magnetic wave(s) of the stator. In an induction motor
>>>>>>>>>> (asynchronous motor) this means no power transmission
>>>>>>>>>> between the rotor and the stator. The motor is then
>>>>>>>>>> working neither as motor or generator.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Slip is the ratio between the rotor speed and the
>>>>>>>>>> rotating field speed.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>> Ole
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ---In [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>, <mkjekyll@...>
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:mkjekyll@...> wrote :
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Norm,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I am slowly digesting this but I think my concept of
>>>>>>>>>> locked rotor was/is in error. Always thought this was
>>>>>>>>>> when the rotor is locked to the rotational field from
>>>>>>>>>> stator with least amount of slip, seems like I am reading
>>>>>>>>>> now it is most amount of slip.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Can you provide what locked rotor means to you and any
>>>>>>>>>> additional information of what you think may be occurring
>>>>>>>>>> beyond the everyday accepted definition?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Mick
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2018 5:55 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Mick, Ole, Kone etal! I have been thinking a lot
>>>>>>>>>>> about my Locked Rotor experiments and did a lot of
>>>>>>>>>>> reading to come up with a fool proof Lenz free motor
>>>>>>>>>>> / generator combination which is so easy to build
>>>>>>>>>>> and proof test! First of all you should read what we
>>>>>>>>>>> know as facts! See the following articles:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.motioncontroltips.com/faq-what-are-dc-shunt-motors-and-where-are-they-used/
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.motioncontroltips.com/faq-what-are-dc-shunt-motors-and-where-are-they-used/>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.machineryspaces.com/direct-current-motors.html
>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.machineryspaces.com/direct-current-motors.html>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.quora.com/What-will-happen-if-the-back-EMF-of-a-DC-motor-vanishes
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.quora.com/What-will-happen-if-the-back-EMF-of-a-DC-motor-vanishes>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-FPcKgwSzs&feature=youtu.be
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-FPcKgwSzs&feature=youtu.be>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3TFALmHtMw&feature=youtu.be
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3TFALmHtMw&feature=youtu.be>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.researchgate.net/post/A_DC_shunt_motor_is_running_at_light_load_what_happens_if_the_field_winding_gets_opened
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.researchgate.net/post/A_DC_shunt_motor_is_running_at_light_load_what_happens_if_the_field_winding_gets_opened>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Kone loves to play with the very powerful Neos as
>>>>>>>>>>> found at K&G Magnetics and shown in the video of the
>>>>>>>>>>> Ray's LENZ free generator. What I will propose is
>>>>>>>>>>> very simple application of DC motor principles as
>>>>>>>>>>> read from the cited references. First you make your
>>>>>>>>>>> LENZ free motor which is in reality a LINEAR MOTOR
>>>>>>>>>>> (Solenoid) which will give the necessary stroke
>>>>>>>>>>> length to drive the LINEAR generator (Coil
>>>>>>>>>>> oscillating within the drag free, LENZ free area of
>>>>>>>>>>> the Neo magnets). Stroke of the solenoid is
>>>>>>>>>>> controlled by Hall sensor and IGBT drive switch to
>>>>>>>>>>> give an excursion rate (stroke) at a frequency of 60
>>>>>>>>>>> HZ. By using a DC pulse to drive the solenoid coil
>>>>>>>>>>> it is tricked into being in LOCKED ROTOR condition,
>>>>>>>>>>> thus no LENZ effect. Has the light come on yet??
>>>>>>>>>>> We know that Ray's generator puts out a sine wave
>>>>>>>>>>> output (AC) with no LENZ drag. Following the DC
>>>>>>>>>>> motor principles as applied to the solenoid driver,
>>>>>>>>>>> you have a motor that is LENZ free also. The combo
>>>>>>>>>>> should give an Over-unity output. Now the tricky
>>>>>>>>>>> part! We know as Ole will agree in that when you
>>>>>>>>>>> switch the solenoid power to off state as magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>> flux is building toward saturation there will be a
>>>>>>>>>>> huge voltage spike (Neutral Spike) which we have to
>>>>>>>>>>> capture and not send to ground as ordinary practice
>>>>>>>>>>> in solid state switch design (snubber diodes) The
>>>>>>>>>>> capture of the SPIKE energy (HV) which occurs
>>>>>>>>>>> naturally will be the over-unity factor here!
>>>>>>>>>>> Interesting concept! Think about it! Norm Mick!
>>>>>>>>>>> (accumulator HV caps)!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2018 6:23 AM, Mick mkjekyll@...
>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:mkjekyll@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ole,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I have had caps charge much faster in an LC tank
>>>>>>>>>>>> than otherwise, but it could also have to do with
>>>>>>>>>>>> noise in the core material as I was no using an air
>>>>>>>>>>>> inductor.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2018 1:19 AM, onielsen@...
>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:onielsen@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Mick,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "If a reactive LC tank capacitor is then
>>>>>>>>>>>>> disconnected from the reactive source then
>>>>>>>>>>>>> discharged to a resistive load then reconnected
>>>>>>>>>>>>> energized back to the standing wave modality
>>>>>>>>>>>>> recharged disconnected discharged etc. If the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> reactive energy is harvested in this manner are
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you claiming the same losses will occur as power
>>>>>>>>>>>>> factor correcting the reactive back into real power?"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes that's correct.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Common power factor correction in AC is for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> eliminating the reactive power that doesn't do any
>>>>>>>>>>>>> work but just heats the wires between the power
>>>>>>>>>>>>> plant and the reactive load. This is expensive for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the owners of the power transmission lines and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> thus should be avoided. First storing the energy
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in a capacitor (or inductor or battery) and then
>>>>>>>>>>>>> dumping it to an active load will still make the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> power go in just one direction even though it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> happens in pulses. The energy is then moving from
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the source to the load. Reactive power has the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> energy moving to and from the load and power
>>>>>>>>>>>>> source. The power moving between the capacitor and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> inductor in an LC-tank is pure reactive except for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the loss because of the parasitic resistance in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the components and wires.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ole
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---In [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>, <mkjekyll@...>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:mkjekyll@...> wrote :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ole,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Disregarding the issue at hand with the patent
>>>>>>>>>>>>> terminology and not concerning ourselves with the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> patent just a very high Q tank.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If a reactive LC tank capacitor is then
>>>>>>>>>>>>> disconnected from the reactive source then
>>>>>>>>>>>>> discharged to a resistive load then reconnected
>>>>>>>>>>>>> energized back to the standing wave modality
>>>>>>>>>>>>> recharged disconnected discharged etc. If the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> reactive energy is harvested in this manner are
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you claiming the same losses will occur as power
>>>>>>>>>>>>> factor correcting the reactive back into real power?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/15/2018 5:36 PM, onielsen@...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:onielsen@...> [EVGRAY] wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have only read to the following paragraph
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cited below. I wonder if the applicant knows
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about what he is writing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Citing paragraph 106 of the patent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> application
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/53/7d/29/f7b4bd0194992d/US20070296373A1.pdf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/53/7d/29/f7b4bd0194992d/US20070296373A1.pdf>):
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "[0106] There is voltage across the inductor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> connected in series to the capacitor and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there is voltage across the inductor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> connected in parallel to the capacitor. Since
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Power=voltage×current, a single power input
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> produces two branches of electromagnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> power output, increasing the power output. In
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the alternative, the present disclosure may
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have one electromagnetic power output with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> less energy input."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It isn't as simple as this. If using an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oscilloscope for measuring the current and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> voltage it will show some phase displacement
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> between the current and voltage which means
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reactive power. Look at the following small
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> videos to see how one can be misled if not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> knowing how the phase between the current and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>