Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery

On 11/7/2018 6:06 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>
> Jakob Wall! & all other researchers on here need to read the Whole 
> Story as to why I no longer have a research lab. Jakob, I'm sorry I 
> did not reveal to you the BEST in my opinion of methods of producing 
> hydrogen gas for I felt it was a little too advanced and difficult for 
> you to experiment with.  See: 
> https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en .   There is a very 
> long story behind this US Patent and a hell of a lot of research. The 
> quest for a very inexpensive method of splitting water has been the 
> Holy Grail of  cheap energy.   In addition to the research papers and 
> links that I gave to you, here are some more to dwell on.
>
> https://www.researchgate.net/post/At_what_temperature_water_will_decompose_to_Oxygen_and_Hydrogen
>
> https://www.quora.com/Does-water-break-down-into-oxygen-and-hydrogen-at-high-temperatures-If-so-then-at-what-temperature
>
> https://www.quora.com/How-much-water-can-you-split-into-hydrogen-and-oxygen-using-electrolysis-with-one-kilowatt-hour-of-electricity
>
> http://www.redrok.com/hion96a1.htm
>
> https://www.nature.com/articles/nplants201741 Please read carefully 
> about the play of Nickel in this approach!
>
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_splitting
>
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water-gas_shift_reaction I owned 77 
> acres of land in Eureka Springs, AR where they still had the old water 
> gas generator and gas storage facility.
>
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decarboxylation
>
> https://phys.org/news/2018-02-uncovers-mechanism-water-splitting-catalyst.html
>
> https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/new-catalyst-could-split-water-cheaply/
>
> https://www.technologyreview.com/s/512996/a-cheaper-way-to-make-hydrogen-from-water/
>
> "*SUPER STEAM* - A Tesla conference in Colorado surfaces new Super 
> Steam Technology (SST). Leonard Dorsett and friends from Texas share 
> strikingly similar views to Aquarian Agency Ltd. They have technology 
> which produces steam instantly at up to 3,000F without a boiler and 
> with 60% savings in fuel over traditional boilers. Nitrogen rich, it 
> can put out gasoline fires and treat many waste problems. Of major 
> importance to Aquarian, this nitrogen-rich steam will help to produce 
> heat and Aquastone at considerable savings."
>
> For further information on Aquarian Agency Ltd. they can be contacted 
> at 38 Weir Rd, Wimbledon, London SW19 SUG, England or on Internet at 
> <aquarian ocign.ape.org>. *_SUPER STEAM TECHNOLOGY PART 2_*
>
> Leonard Dorsett (PO Box 365, Grapevine, TX 76092) demonstrated his 
> Super Steam Technology at the 1994 International Tesla Symposium. SST 
> is a system for producing steam at any temperature or pressure 
> independently and instantly without the need for a conventional 
> boiler. It can instantly produce steam of any temperature from hot 
> water at 180F to super heated steam at over 3000F, while pressures can 
> vary from 1PSI to 3000PSI with airflow volumes of 1CFM up to over 
> 2000CFM. The system operates on propane, methane, petrol, kerosene, 
> methanol, diesel, hydrogen or just about anything else that bums and 
> converts virtually 100% of the fuel into usable energy. (Note: The 
> person in the picture is Norman Wootan of MRA fame)
>
> This all sounds great, but how does it work? The basis of the unit is 
> a specially designed open throat chamber with controlled air, water 
> and fuel interaction and a high voltage ignition resulting in a direct 
> fire process establishing thermal zones. This creates a stoichiometric 
> condition resulting in a full spectrum of steam product. Now comes the 
> interesting part At the increased temperatures of steam, 
> disassociation occurs. (Could this be a clue to running cars on 
> water??) The hydrogen and oxygen reacts causing an exponential 
> increase of energy resulting in super heated steam. A similar 
> superheat process was addressed by Tesla in the October 12, 1911 
> publication of the "Engineering News Record".
>
> Applications of the SST system include a much more economical way of 
> producing electricity as no conventional boiler is needed. It will 
> also be an ideal low cost method for heating and cooling homes and 
> businesses. Small portable units can be developed for home use, such 
> as steam cleaning, and insect and ant removal, without the dangers of 
> insecticides. The system can also be used for low cost purification of 
> polluted water or sewerage and can also convert salt water into 
> drinking water both quickly and inexpensively. Other uses are in fire 
> fighting applications, ice and snow removal from roads, etc. and 
> sterilization and nurturing of soil for agriculture where 
> contamination has occurred.
>
> I had designed a method of making hydrogen from carbon & water vapor 
> using the Tesla Atomic Bombardment method of high frequency inside of 
> spherical inclosure like this experiments with the carbon button lamp 
> globes.   After working with Leonard Dorsett and his Super Steam 
> Project, I chose to use the Water Shift Process instead.  A side note 
> is needed here!  The Super Steam Process was a result of Professor 
> Brown studying the method the German's used for torpedo propulsion 
> from WWI. Acetylene Gas and sea water produced an exothermic reaction 
> generating Super Steam. Brown built several reactors and tested them 
> in the Tulsa area to break (down hole) the parafin deposits to release 
> crude oil.
>
> The Chemical equation for the reaction in the US Patent: 
> https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en
>
> *(6C + 12 H2O= 6CO2 + 24H) *
>
> Hydrogen Reactor Development
>
> **
>
> Original concept design was a high voltage, high frequency resonant 
> device that utilized carbon water reaction with the feedstock being in 
> the form of graphite rod stock.This unit was designed for vehicle 
> application and had too many limitations to be used for mass hydrogen 
> generation.This type reactor is very effective at hydrogen production 
> since it targets the water vapor molecule at MRI frequencies, which 
> breaks the bonding, allowing the carbon to latch onto the oxygen atoms 
> leaving the hydrogen free. This device was a closed system that used a 
> simple CO2/hydrogen separation stage that enabled the hydrogen to be 
> feed to an internal combustion engine.
>
> **
>
> *To allow for a sustained high mass flow of hydrogen gas output, 
> reactor design took on a radical change.By incorporating the 
> Ranque/Hilsch, Counter Flow Implosion Vortex Principle, and continuous 
> high mass flow and gas separation were achieved in one stage of 
> operation.Feedstock for this type reactor could be any carbon-based 
> material that could be put into a powder form.Highest carbon content 
> of the feedstock provides for the most efficient hydrogen production 
> with the least undesirable output material.*
>
> **
>
> *Super high temperature operating regime was chosen to be above 2500 C 
> for the purpose of producing atomic hydrogen in the process.The 
> original reactor operated at temperatures that easily gasified basic 
> carbon into a plasma state (>10,000 F) more easily allowing the 
> production of hydrogen from the stoichiometric feed stock ratios.*
>
> *
> *
>
> **
>
> I sold one of my Patents (Sonodiffuser) and paid for my 52 acres of 
> land and built a 5200 sq. Ft. lab the do the Prototype machining and 
> Proof of Concept testing for GAZPROM, Moscow in 2005. A $1.2 million 
> investment and they got the rights to the process and I got the 
> beautiful Research Lab all paid in full. I was a self employed 
> Contractor in Dallas working with HVAC, Electrical and Electronics 
> Maintenance so had to commute 170 miles/day and only had the week ends 
> for my time! Having to mow grass and maintane the 52 acres took all my 
> time and when I suffered a neck fracture in 2012, had to retire. 
> Liquidated the entire facility and sold it off. Moved to Dallas then 
> to South Louisiana where I now do a lot of relaxing and fishing!
>
> Hector and ALL, I did my time in the Barrel so now I will just 
> contribute to the dialog inorder to assist any research you may be 
> doing within my area of experitise!     BTW! I have been out to 
> pasture for a long time now, so no BULL offense!  As Hector knows, "It 
> fits"! Lol
>
>
>
> Yes! Hector, I will wear my Border Patrol Hat when you come visit from 
> PR!  Lol
>
>
>
>
> On 11/6/2018 8:52 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>>
>> By the way ... i can hit mega millions or the power ball  . i never 
>> will not have a lab i can work in,  that is worst than death , you 
>> have no idea of the technology that had being lost by the greedy 
>> fucking bastards fucking my life , they will loose all they have  
>> "soon" because it had being engineered that way by accumulative bad 
>> karma, i have another lab they will never reach or be able to 
>> intercept or destroy and that will decide their fate ..... they will 
>> be fucked hard !
>>
>>
>>
>> (H)
>>
>> ---In [email protected], <mkjekyll@...> wrote :
>>
>> Cmon Hector,
>>
>> Bad taste!
>>
>> The man had a more serious lab than anyone else here and his work 
>> speaks for itself.  Maybe he has gained the fortune he desired 
>> through R&D and now shitting in tall cotton or gone fishing reaping 
>> the rewards of retirement. Notwithstanding is still kind enough to 
>> help point us in the right directions around here.
>>
>> "*Funny–I can look back on a life of achievement, on challenges met, 
>> competitors bested, obstacles overcome. I’ve accomplished more than 
>> most men, and without the use of my legs. What?What makes a man, Mr. 
>> Lebowski?"*
>>
>>
>> On 11/6/2018 8:04 AM, arkresearch@... <mailto:arkresearch@...> 
>> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>>>     Dar n ! a Scientist inventor with no lab is like a breeding bull
>>>     with no balls !
>>>
>>>     Balls Cow GIF - Balls Cow WingDangDoodle GIFs
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>     ---In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>,
>>>     <nwootan@...> <mailto:nwootan@...> wrote :
>>>
>>>     Jacob! You asked me a question and I gave you my opinion!  I'm
>>>     totally retired at 80 years old and have no lab to experiment
>>>     in!  Your quote; I heard once a phrase from a researcher who
>>>     said. '' Slow down boy, we get paid for llooking for solutions,
>>>     not to find them!''   That certainly does not apply to me for I
>>>     have shared all with the folks on this site.  I find you
>>>     statement very interesting: Technics that use up 10 % of a
>>>     magnet in 24 hours with usual amount of gas looks to me
>>>     extremely inefficient.   ?????? Care to share where you saw the
>>>     power of a permanent magnet being used up!   We all here on this
>>>     site share what ever knowledge we have on the various subjects
>>>     not seeking any monetary gain in any way! That is my approach!  
>>>     I just contribute to the dialog when I run across something
>>>     interesting and think it will assist you guys!   Norm
>>>
>>>
>>>     On 11/3/2018 11:32 PM, Jakob Wall wall_jakob@...
>>>     <mailto:wall_jakob@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>>>         Thanks Norman,
>>>>         But i actually asced for ''most efficient way'' to split
>>>>         water known to you!
>>>>         I realize there are a lot of different technigues to do
>>>>         just that.
>>>>         And yes i realize you could give me a rather complex
>>>>         answer. But instead i hope for a
>>>>         rather easy and reproductive answer since i am looking
>>>>         forward to solve my enerrgy
>>>>         problems i just can not live with the momentary (sad and
>>>>         very stupid energy situation)
>>>>         I am still not giving up becouse of a couple mistakes and
>>>>         misunderstandings.
>>>>         If i would be a car dealer and you would ask me for a most
>>>>         efficient car available on the market
>>>>         i would for sure not recommend a Prius, since there are a
>>>>         lot of cars with better fuel economie
>>>>         even without being a hybrid and without additional cost
>>>>         like batterys,e-motors and a bunch added ECU's
>>>>
>>>>         Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours with
>>>>         usual amount of gas looks to me extremely
>>>>         inefficient.
>>>>         Also very expensive HHO-Garage products with output of 1,6
>>>>         ltr/min.
>>>>         Come on, 6 rusty nails and a old car batery does this job,
>>>>         no need to spend 1600 bucks on it.
>>>>         I honestly expected solide advise or a honest NO way boy, i
>>>>         just talking around.
>>>>
>>>>         I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. '' Slow
>>>>         down boy, we get paid for llooking for
>>>>         solutions, not to find them!'' That shoked me deeply and
>>>>         even if i get 150 years old, i will not forget it.
>>>>         Thats true treason on mankind and deciving the people. I
>>>>         really hope nobody on this forum only care
>>>>         about what he/she will be doing tomorrow.
>>>>
>>>>         Jakob
>>>>
>>>>         --------------------------------------------
>>>>         On Sun, 10/28/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>         <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>         Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery
>>>>         To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>,
>>>>         "Bert Pool" <BertPool512@...> <mailto:BertPool512@...>,
>>>>         "Bob Paddock" <bob.paddock@...> <mailto:bob.paddock@...>,
>>>>         "joel mcclain" <joel_76670@...> <mailto:joel_76670@...>,
>>>>         "Jon Gentry" <jongen422@...> <mailto:jongen422@...>,
>>>>         "Mbking42" <mbking42@...> <mailto:mbking42@...>, "Toby
>>>>         Grotz" <wireless2@...> <mailto:wireless2@...>, "Phil
>>>>         Rembold" <prembold@...> <mailto:prembold@...>, "Angel
>>>>         Alvarez" <angel@...> <mailto:angel@...>, "Fredric Fletcher"
>>>>         <ffletcher@...> <mailto:ffletcher@...>
>>>>         Received: Sunday, October 28, 2018, 9:44 AM
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>         Jacob!  That would be a rather complex answer
>>>>         but here is your
>>>>         starting point!
>>>>         https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct-thermomagnetic-splitting-of-water-.html
>>>>
>>>>         After having been heavily involved in the COLD FUSION
>>>>         Research
>>>>         back in the 70s and 80s I quickly settled o0n the best
>>>>         catalyst in
>>>>         electrolytic cells which is pure nickel. I still have
>>>>         the cell
>>>>         used in the Elemental Replication experiments.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm
>>>>         The hidden
>>>>         part of this research is the use of a nickel component
>>>>         in the
>>>>         combustion chamber. Bosch developed 90,000V ignition
>>>>         systems to
>>>>         enable water injection in gas engine which high
>>>>         lighted the
>>>>         Graneau HV decomposition of water via HVDC
>>>>         discharge!
>>>>         My magnetic Battery when run as an electrolytic cell
>>>>         to produce
>>>>         hydrogen does produce a huge amount of hydrogen gas as
>>>>         shown by
>>>>         the Dr. Ehrenhaft document.  I would tell you to
>>>>         pursue the super
>>>>         high Tesla magnetic flux and nickel electrodes in an
>>>>         electrolytic
>>>>         cell.  The major obstacle to be overcome is the rapid
>>>>         collection
>>>>         of ions from solution by the 1.3 Tesla flux across a
>>>>         .020"
>>>>         mechanical gap which quickly takes the cell into a
>>>>         super-conduction mode which takes out the driving DC
>>>>         power supply.
>>>>         You can flush the magnetic gaps with distilled water
>>>>         and the gaps
>>>>         will show in the meg-ohm range then go to zero ohms
>>>>         after a short
>>>>         period of running, the gathered ions totally short
>>>>         cell. During
>>>>         the brief runs there is a huge amount of hydrogen gas
>>>>         produced
>>>>         which I burned off as it was generated.  Much can be
>>>>         said about
>>>>         driving the cell with high frequencies as the Myers
>>>>         research
>>>>         showed.  Our friend up in Canada at George Wiseman,
>>>>         Eagle Research
>>>>         is running well ahead of the crowd on the production
>>>>         of H-H-O.
>>>>         Just for giggles!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         16 October
>>>>         1996
>>>>         To: Hal
>>>>         Fox,  Fusion Facts
>>>>         Elemental
>>>>         Replication ?
>>>>
>>>>               Around mid
>>>>         September
>>>>         I put together an
>>>>         electrolysis cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold
>>>>         Fusion Cell
>>>>         with the goal of
>>>>         exploring the possibilities of making what is
>>>>         termed “Pristine
>>>>         Water”.   This water
>>>>         which will be used by Homeopaths
>>>>         will have had all memory or information
>>>>         removed.  This is accomplished by
>>>>         recombining monatomic
>>>>         hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated in a
>>>>         properly
>>>>         designed cell.  This is
>>>>         the ultimate in purity since this is
>>>>         water with conditions at the time of original
>>>>         creation.  “Holly Water”is a term
>>>>         coined by my dear
>>>>         friend and fellow researcher Joe Tyls of
>>>>         Vancouver, BC.   After several weeks of
>>>>         successful operation
>>>>         producing water that had all the earmarks of a
>>>>         true “pristine
>>>>         water” a fellow
>>>>         researcher suggested using an alternate
>>>>         electrolyte.   A solution was selected
>>>>         that contained 77
>>>>         colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the
>>>>         easiest
>>>>         assimilated into the
>>>>         body.   With the
>>>>         electrolyte changed the
>>>>         cell was put back into operation as before with a
>>>>         nice
>>>>         recombination burn and
>>>>         production of the sought after “pristine
>>>>         water”.
>>>>
>>>>             After about an
>>>>         hour of
>>>>         operation the cell
>>>>         went absolutely “nuts” with the temperature
>>>>         rapidly climbing
>>>>         to boiling point
>>>>         and the current out of sight.
>>>>         When the
>>>>         cell was opened we found a deep red sludge deposit
>>>>         which
>>>>         shorted the cell
>>>>         plates.   Our first
>>>>         thought was that the
>>>>         electrolytic action precipitated out the colloidal
>>>>         minerals
>>>>         which caused the
>>>>         deposit found.   The
>>>>         electrolyte was allowed
>>>>         to settle out the
>>>>         precipitate.   After
>>>>         decanting off,  the clear electrolyte
>>>>         was
>>>>         returned to the
>>>>         cell for another run. Again the cell operated
>>>>         normally for
>>>>         about an hour with a
>>>>         normal recombination burn and recovery of the
>>>>         water being
>>>>         consumed by the cell
>>>>         in the splitting action.   Again
>>>>         the cell
>>>>         temperature and current mirrored the first
>>>>         run.
>>>>         Again the cell contained the same amount of
>>>>         sludge
>>>>         residue.   This process
>>>>         was repeated ten (10) times
>>>>         with exactly the same results.
>>>>         All of
>>>>         the sludge was carefully dried and weighed on an
>>>>         electronic
>>>>         scale with a five
>>>>         decimal
>>>>         resolution.
>>>>         The cell plates and all hardware were
>>>>         weighed to
>>>>         determine any loss of
>>>>         mass that may contribute to the mass gain observed
>>>>         in the
>>>>         sludge.  Five hundred
>>>>         (500) ml of the original
>>>>         electrolyte solution used in the cell was vacuum
>>>>         distilled to
>>>>         determine the
>>>>         exact mass of colloidal minerals
>>>>         contained.
>>>>         When all factors were considered we came
>>>>         out with a
>>>>         mass gain of  48 gm
>>>>         which cannot be explained by
>>>>         conventional
>>>>         electrolysis.
>>>>
>>>>             After talking
>>>>         to Dr.
>>>>         Robert Bass and Hal
>>>>         Fox I learned of a patent that has been filed on
>>>>         the
>>>>         transmutation of elements
>>>>         in the cold fusion cell which is the process that
>>>>         Dr. John
>>>>         Bockris has been so
>>>>         active in.   Both Dr.
>>>>         Bass and Hal Fox
>>>>         stated that what I was observing is not the same
>>>>         as the
>>>>         transmutation observed
>>>>         in the cold fusion cell since I have a overall
>>>>         mass gain and
>>>>         not a lateral
>>>>         movement of elements in the periodic table toward
>>>>         lighter
>>>>         elements with a
>>>>         resulting heat release.  This
>>>>         unusual
>>>>         cell operation has caused quite a reaction in the
>>>>         scientific
>>>>         community.  At this
>>>>         time I have built a complete new cell
>>>>         with every possible factor which could possibly
>>>>         explain the
>>>>         mass gain
>>>>         considered and documented.  The
>>>>         ten (10)
>>>>         consecutive runs on the new cell will be completed
>>>>         soon and a
>>>>         report will be
>>>>         forthcoming.   What is
>>>>         interesting about
>>>>         this phenomenon is that when an eleventh run was
>>>>         made with the
>>>>         original
>>>>         electrolyte exactly the same amount of residue was
>>>>         recovered
>>>>         as in the previous
>>>>         ten
>>>>         runs.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         Since
>>>>         the same electrolyte is reused each time with only
>>>>         distilled
>>>>         water being added
>>>>         to replace the volume lost by the removal of the
>>>>         solids and
>>>>         the water recovered
>>>>         by the recombination burn we are hard pressed to
>>>>         explain the
>>>>         observed
>>>>         phenomenon.     The
>>>>         electrolyte appears
>>>>         stronger in mineral concentration and shows no
>>>>         sign of
>>>>
>>>>         depletion.
>>>>
>>>>            After conferring
>>>>         with
>>>>         Joe Tyls we arrived at
>>>>         the conclusion that the 77 colloidal minerals
>>>>         contained in the
>>>>         electrolyte
>>>>         provide the atomic templates needed for the
>>>>         monatomic hydrogen
>>>>         (father of all
>>>>         the elements) to replicate selected elements in
>>>>         this exotic
>>>>         mixture.  If you
>>>>         subscribe to the theories of the late
>>>>         Walter Russell and his explanation of the octave
>>>>         based
>>>>         periodic table with
>>>>         monatonic hydrogen being what he describes as
>>>>         hydrons
>>>>         (precursor to hydrogen)
>>>>         then it is possible for the replication of
>>>>         elements directly
>>>>         from energy input
>>>>         alone.  This is how all
>>>>         matter was
>>>>         created in the beginning as described by
>>>>         Schappeller in “The
>>>>         Physics of the
>>>>         Primary State of Matter”.    I
>>>>         will keep
>>>>         all informed as to our progress and findings in
>>>>         this very
>>>>         intriguing venture.
>>>>
>>>>         Norman
>>>>         Wootan
>>>>         P.O.
>>>>         Box 141049
>>>>         Dallas,
>>>>         TX 75214
>>>>         (214)
>>>>         360-0865
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         CC:  Gene Mallove,
>>>>         Infinite
>>>>         Energy
>>>>         CC:  Dr. John
>>>>         Bockris, Texas
>>>>         A/M
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         On 10/28/2018 1:01 AM,
>>>>         Jakob Wall
>>>>         wall_jakob@... <mailto:wall_jakob@...>
>>>>         [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         Thanks Norman,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         BTW, what is the most effective water split
>>>>         device that
>>>>         you ever put you hands on?
>>>>
>>>>         As HHO researcher for dekades you should be
>>>>         able to point
>>>>         us directly to the most effective known!
>>>>
>>>>         Please be specific about reconstruction of the
>>>>         same, since
>>>>         we are in public domain it will become public
>>>>         knowledge
>>>>         and public good. I assume you intend nothing
>>>>         else,rigth ?
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>         On Sat, 10/27/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>         <mailto:nwootan@...>
>>>>         [EVGRAY]
>>>>         <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>         wrote:
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>         Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's
>>>>         Magnetic
>>>>         Battery [3 Attachments]
>>>>
>>>>         To: "Bert Pool" <BertPool512@...> <mailto:BertPool512@...>,
>>>>         "Bob
>>>>         Paddock" <bob.paddock@...> <mailto:bob.paddock@...>,
>>>>         "joel mcclain"
>>>>         <joel_76670@...> <mailto:joel_76670@...>,
>>>>         "Jon Gentry"
>>>>         <jongen422@...> <mailto:jongen422@...>,
>>>>         "Lane Wootan"
>>>>         <lanewootan@...> <mailto:lanewootan@...>,
>>>>         "Mbking42"
>>>>         <mbking42@...> <mailto:mbking42@...>,
>>>>         "Toby Grotz"
>>>>         <wireless2@...> <mailto:wireless2@...>,
>>>>         "Phil Rembold"
>>>>         <prembold@...> <mailto:prembold@...>,
>>>>         "Angel Alvarez"
>>>>         <angel@...> <mailto:angel@...>,
>>>>         "Fredric Fletcher"
>>>>         <ffletcher@...> <mailto:ffletcher@...>,
>>>>         [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>
>>>>         To understand the unwinding of a thread
>>>>         leading
>>>>
>>>>         to Magnetic
>>>>
>>>>         Generating Hydrogen and this Magnetic Battery,
>>>>         we have
>>>>
>>>>         to dust off
>>>>
>>>>         our  9th grade Chemistry Books!
>>>>
>>>>         http://www.rexresearch.com/ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm
>>>>
>>>>         I guess Dr.
>>>>
>>>>         Ehrenhaft was the first to propose a Magnetic
>>>>         Current.
>>>>
>>>>         (Jon
>>>>
>>>>         Gentry, Your liquid metal vortex helix).
>>>>
>>>>         https://revolution-green.com/can-electrolysis-powered-magnets/
>>>>
>>>>         Ah! Ha!  more on Magnetic Currents!!!
>>>>
>>>>         https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446.html
>>>>
>>>>         https://www.labmanager.com/white-papers-and-application-notes/2010/05/resistivity-conductivity-measurement-of-purified-water#.W9So9uJRc2w
>>>>
>>>>         https://www.askiitians.com/forums/Physical-Chemistry/19/19074/electro-che
>>>>
>>>>         https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpotential
>>>>
>>>>         https://www.quora.com/Why-is-oxygen-molecule-paramagnetic-although-it-does-not-contain-any-unpaired-electron
>>>>
>>>>         https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251580541_The_effect_of_magnetic_force_on_hydrogen_production_efficiency_in_water_electrolysis
>>>>
>>>>         http://www.physicscentral.com/experiment/physicsathome/electricwhirlpool.cfm
>>>>
>>>>         http://www.linux-host.org/energy/bmagpump.htm
>>>>
>>>>         Now Jon Gentry you have your liquid metal pump
>>>>         so
>>>>
>>>>         that you can
>>>>
>>>>         make the helix tube Vortex!
>>>>         Ferricpetacarbonyl or
>>>>
>>>>         micro fine neo
>>>>
>>>>         powder to provide the liquid metal for pump
>>>>
>>>>         circuit.
>>>>
>>>>         Lots of reading here!     Please think
>>>>         about the
>>>>
>>>>         ramifications of
>>>>
>>>>         a Magnetic Current as proposed by Dr.
>>>>         Ehrenhaft!
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>> 
>

Jakob,

You may also have a look at this as it's a less complex version
incorporating a couple of Norms findings allegedly allowing for enough
power to run internal combustion engines from water and a carbon arc. 
The name is funny as it's a pun from the lexicon of a pilot one never
wants to hear from the cockpit.  If the pilot says bingofuel to ATC that
means he thinks he may have just enough fuel to the drop to land the
plane so clear me for a runway and get the emergency crews there.
http://bingofuel.online.fr/bingofuel/html/bfr10.htm


On 11/7/2018 4:15 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
>
> On 11/7/2018 6:06 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>
>> Jakob Wall! & all other researchers on here need to read the Whole
>> Story as to why I no longer have a research lab.  Jakob, I'm sorry I
>> did not reveal to you the BEST in my opinion of methods of producing
>> hydrogen gas for I felt it was a little too advanced and difficult
>> for you to experiment with.  See:
>> https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en .   There is a very
>> long story behind this US Patent and a hell of a lot of research. The
>> quest for a very inexpensive method of splitting water has been the
>> Holy Grail of  cheap energy.   In addition to the research papers and
>> links that I gave to you, here are some more to dwell on.
>>
>> https://www.researchgate.net/post/At_what_temperature_water_will_decompose_to_Oxygen_and_Hydrogen
>>
>> https://www.quora.com/Does-water-break-down-into-oxygen-and-hydrogen-at-high-temperatures-If-so-then-at-what-temperature
>>
>> https://www.quora.com/How-much-water-can-you-split-into-hydrogen-and-oxygen-using-electrolysis-with-one-kilowatt-hour-of-electricity
>>
>> http://www.redrok.com/hion96a1.htm
>>
>> https://www.nature.com/articles/nplants201741   Please read carefully
>> about the play of Nickel in this approach!
>>
>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_splitting
>>
>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water-gas_shift_reaction    I owned
>> 77 acres of land in Eureka Springs, AR where they still had the old
>> water gas generator and gas storage facility.
>>
>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decarboxylation
>>
>> https://phys.org/news/2018-02-uncovers-mechanism-water-splitting-catalyst.html
>>
>> https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/new-catalyst-could-split-water-cheaply/
>>
>> https://www.technologyreview.com/s/512996/a-cheaper-way-to-make-hydrogen-from-water/
>>
>> "*SUPER STEAM* - A Tesla conference in Colorado surfaces new Super
>> Steam Technology (SST). Leonard Dorsett and friends from Texas share
>> strikingly similar views to Aquarian Agency Ltd. They have technology
>> which produces steam instantly at up to 3,000F without a boiler and
>> with 60% savings in fuel over traditional boilers. Nitrogen rich, it
>> can put out gasoline fires and treat many waste problems. Of major
>> importance to Aquarian, this nitrogen-rich steam will help to produce
>> heat and Aquastone at considerable savings."
>>
>> For further information on Aquarian Agency Ltd. they can be contacted
>> at 38 Weir Rd, Wimbledon, London SW19 SUG, England or on Internet at
>> <aquarian ocign.ape.org>. *_SUPER STEAM TECHNOLOGY PART 2_*
>>
>> Leonard Dorsett (PO Box 365, Grapevine, TX 76092) demonstrated his
>> Super Steam Technology at the 1994 International Tesla Symposium. SST
>> is a system for producing steam at any temperature or pressure
>> independently and instantly without the need for a conventional
>> boiler. It can instantly produce steam of any temperature from hot
>> water at 180F to super heated steam at over 3000F, while pressures
>> can vary from 1PSI to 3000PSI with airflow volumes of 1CFM up to over
>> 2000CFM. The system operates on propane, methane, petrol, kerosene,
>> methanol, diesel, hydrogen or just about anything else that bums and
>> converts virtually 100% of the fuel into usable energy. (Note: The
>> person in the picture is Norman Wootan of MRA fame)
>>
>> This all sounds great, but how does it work? The basis of the unit is
>> a specially designed open throat chamber with controlled air, water
>> and fuel interaction and a high voltage ignition resulting in a
>> direct fire process establishing thermal zones. This creates a
>> stoichiometric condition resulting in a full spectrum of steam
>> product. Now comes the interesting part At the increased temperatures
>> of steam, disassociation occurs. (Could this be a clue to running
>> cars on water??) The hydrogen and oxygen reacts causing an
>> exponential increase of energy resulting in super heated steam. A
>> similar superheat process was addressed by Tesla in the October 12,
>> 1911 publication of the "Engineering News Record".
>>
>> Applications of the SST system include a much more economical way of
>> producing electricity as no conventional boiler is needed. It will
>> also be an ideal low cost method for heating and cooling homes and
>> businesses. Small portable units can be developed for home use, such
>> as steam cleaning, and insect and ant removal, without the dangers of
>> insecticides. The system can also be used for low cost purification
>> of polluted water or sewerage and can also convert salt water into
>> drinking water both quickly and inexpensively. Other uses are in fire
>> fighting applications, ice and snow removal from roads, etc. and
>> sterilization and nurturing of soil for agriculture where
>> contamination has occurred.
>>
>> I had designed a method of making hydrogen from carbon & water vapor
>> using the Tesla Atomic Bombardment method of high frequency inside of
>> spherical inclosure like this experiments with the carbon button lamp
>> globes.   After working with Leonard Dorsett and his Super Steam
>> Project, I chose to use the Water Shift Process instead.  A side note
>> is needed here!  The Super Steam Process was a result of Professor
>> Brown studying the method the German's used for torpedo propulsion
>> from WWI.  Acetylene Gas and sea water produced an exothermic
>> reaction generating Super Steam. Brown built several reactors and
>> tested them in the Tulsa area to break (down hole) the parafin
>> deposits to release crude oil.
>>
>> The Chemical equation for the reaction in the US Patent:
>> https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en
>>
>> *(6C + 12 H2O  = 6CO2 + 24H) *
>>
>> Hydrogen Reactor Development
>>
>> * *
>>
>> Original concept design was a high voltage, high frequency resonant
>> device that utilized carbon water reaction with the feedstock being
>> in the form of graphite rod stock.  This unit was designed for
>> vehicle application and had too many limitations to be used for mass
>> hydrogen generation.  This type reactor is very effective at hydrogen
>> production since it targets the water vapor molecule at MRI
>> frequencies, which breaks the bonding, allowing the carbon to latch
>> onto the oxygen atoms leaving the hydrogen free. This device was a
>> closed system that used a simple CO2/hydrogen separation stage that
>> enabled the hydrogen to be feed to an internal combustion engine.
>>
>> * *
>>
>> *To allow for a sustained high mass flow of hydrogen gas output,
>> reactor design took on a radical change.  By incorporating the
>> Ranque/Hilsch, Counter Flow Implosion Vortex Principle, and
>> continuous high mass flow and gas separation were achieved in one
>> stage of operation.  Feedstock for this type reactor could be any
>> carbon-based material that could be put into a powder form.  Highest
>> carbon content of the feedstock provides for the most efficient
>> hydrogen production with the least undesirable output material.*
>>
>> * *
>>
>> *Super high temperature operating regime was chosen to be above 2500
>> C for the purpose of producing atomic hydrogen in the process.  The
>> original reactor operated at temperatures that easily gasified basic
>> carbon into a plasma state (>10,000 F) more easily allowing the
>> production of hydrogen from the stoichiometric feed stock ratios.*
>>
>> *
>> *
>>
>> **
>>
>> I sold one of my Patents (Sonodiffuser) and paid for my 52 acres of
>> land and built a 5200 sq. Ft. lab the do the Prototype machining and
>> Proof of Concept testing for GAZPROM, Moscow in 2005. A $1.2 million
>> investment and they got the rights to the process and I got the
>> beautiful Research Lab all paid in full. I was a self employed
>> Contractor in Dallas working with HVAC, Electrical and Electronics
>> Maintenance so had to commute 170 miles/day and only had the week
>> ends for my time! Having to mow grass and maintane the 52 acres took
>> all my time and when I suffered a neck fracture in 2012, had to
>> retire. Liquidated the entire facility and sold it off. Moved to
>> Dallas then to South Louisiana where I now do a lot of relaxing and
>> fishing!
>>
>> Hector and ALL, I did my time in the Barrel so now I will just
>> contribute to the dialog inorder to assist any research you may be
>> doing within my area of experitise!     BTW! I have been out to
>> pasture for a long time now, so no BULL offense!  As Hector knows,
>> "It fits"! Lol
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes! Hector, I will wear my Border Patrol Hat when you come visit
>> from PR!  Lol
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/6/2018 8:52 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>  
>>>
>>>
>>> By the way ... i can hit mega millions or the power ball  . i never
>>> will not have a lab i can work in,  that is worst than death , you
>>> have no idea of the technology that had being lost by the greedy
>>> fucking bastards fucking my life , they will loose all they have 
>>> "soon" because it had being engineered that way by accumulative bad
>>> karma, i have another lab they will never reach or be able to
>>> intercept or destroy and that will decide their fate ..... they will
>>> be fucked hard !
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> (H)   
>>>
>>> ---In [email protected], <mkjekyll@...> wrote :
>>>
>>> Cmon Hector,
>>>
>>> Bad taste!
>>>
>>> The man had a more serious lab than anyone else here and his work
>>> speaks for itself.  Maybe he has gained the fortune he desired
>>> through R&D and now shitting in tall cotton or gone fishing reaping
>>> the rewards of retirement. Notwithstanding is still kind enough to
>>> help point us in the right directions around here.
>>>
>>> "*Funny–I can look back on a life of achievement, on challenges met,
>>> competitors bested, obstacles overcome. I’ve accomplished more than
>>> most men, and without the use of my legs. What?What makes a man, Mr.
>>> Lebowski?"*
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/6/2018 8:04 AM, arkresearch@... <mailto:arkresearch@...>
>>> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>>>      
>>>>
>>>>     Dar n ! a Scientist inventor with no lab is like a breeding
>>>>     bull with no balls !
>>>>
>>>>     Balls Cow GIF - Balls Cow WingDangDoodle GIFs
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     ---In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>,
>>>>     <nwootan@...> <mailto:nwootan@...> wrote :
>>>>
>>>>     Jacob! You asked me a question and I gave you my opinion!  I'm
>>>>     totally retired at 80 years old and have no lab to experiment
>>>>     in!  Your quote; I heard once a phrase from a researcher who
>>>>     said. '' Slow down boy, we get paid for llooking for solutions,
>>>>     not to find them!''   That certainly does not apply to me for I
>>>>     have shared all with the folks on this site.  I find you
>>>>     statement very interesting:  Technics that use up 10 % of a
>>>>     magnet in 24 hours with usual amount of gas looks to me
>>>>     extremely inefficient.   ??????        Care to share where you
>>>>     saw the power of a permanent magnet being used up!   We all
>>>>     here on this site share what ever knowledge we have on the
>>>>     various subjects not seeking any monetary gain in any way! That
>>>>     is my approach!   I just contribute to the dialog when I run
>>>>     across something interesting and think it will assist you
>>>>     guys!   Norm
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     On 11/3/2018 11:32 PM, Jakob Wall wall_jakob@...
>>>>     <mailto:wall_jakob@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>         Thanks Norman,
>>>>>         But i actually asced for ''most efficient way'' to split
>>>>>         water known to you!
>>>>>         I realize there are a lot of different technigues to do
>>>>>         just that.
>>>>>         And yes i realize you could give me a rather complex
>>>>>         answer. But instead i hope for a
>>>>>         rather easy and reproductive answer since i am looking
>>>>>         forward to solve my enerrgy
>>>>>         problems i just can not live with the momentary (sad and
>>>>>         very stupid energy situation)
>>>>>         I am still not giving up becouse of a couple mistakes and
>>>>>         misunderstandings.
>>>>>         If i would be a car dealer and you would ask me for a most
>>>>>         efficient car available on the market
>>>>>         i would for sure not recommend a Prius, since there are a
>>>>>         lot of cars with better fuel economie
>>>>>         even without being a hybrid and without additional cost
>>>>>         like batterys,e-motors and a bunch added ECU's
>>>>>
>>>>>         Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours with
>>>>>         usual amount of gas looks to me extremely
>>>>>         inefficient.
>>>>>         Also very expensive HHO-Garage products with output of 1,6
>>>>>         ltr/min.
>>>>>         Come on, 6 rusty nails and a old car batery does this job,
>>>>>         no need to spend 1600 bucks on it.
>>>>>         I honestly expected solide advise or a honest NO way boy,
>>>>>         i just talking around.
>>>>>
>>>>>         I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. '' Slow
>>>>>         down boy, we get paid for llooking for
>>>>>         solutions, not to find them!'' That shoked me deeply and
>>>>>         even if i get 150 years old, i will not forget it.
>>>>>         Thats true treason on mankind and deciving the people. I
>>>>>         really hope nobody on this forum only care
>>>>>         about what he/she will be doing tomorrow.
>>>>>
>>>>>         Jakob
>>>>>
>>>>>         --------------------------------------------
>>>>>         On Sun, 10/28/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>>         <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
>>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>         Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery
>>>>>         To: [email protected]
>>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]>, "Bert Pool"
>>>>>         <BertPool512@...> <mailto:BertPool512@...>, "Bob Paddock"
>>>>>         <bob.paddock@...> <mailto:bob.paddock@...>, "joel mcclain"
>>>>>         <joel_76670@...> <mailto:joel_76670@...>, "Jon Gentry"
>>>>>         <jongen422@...> <mailto:jongen422@...>, "Mbking42"
>>>>>         <mbking42@...> <mailto:mbking42@...>, "Toby Grotz"
>>>>>         <wireless2@...> <mailto:wireless2@...>, "Phil Rembold"
>>>>>         <prembold@...> <mailto:prembold@...>, "Angel Alvarez"
>>>>>         <angel@...> <mailto:angel@...>, "Fredric Fletcher"
>>>>>         <ffletcher@...> <mailto:ffletcher@...>
>>>>>         Received: Sunday, October 28, 2018, 9:44 AM
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>         Jacob!  That would be a rather complex answer
>>>>>         but here is your
>>>>>         starting point!
>>>>>         https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct-thermomagnetic-splitting-of-water-.html   
>>>>>         After having been heavily involved in the COLD FUSION
>>>>>         Research
>>>>>         back in the 70s and 80s I quickly settled o0n the best
>>>>>         catalyst in
>>>>>         electrolytic cells which is pure nickel. I still have
>>>>>         the cell
>>>>>         used in the Elemental Replication experiments.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>         http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm    
>>>>>         The hidden
>>>>>         part of this research is the use of a nickel component
>>>>>         in the
>>>>>         combustion chamber. Bosch developed 90,000V ignition
>>>>>         systems to
>>>>>         enable water injection in gas engine which high
>>>>>         lighted the
>>>>>         Graneau HV decomposition of water via HVDC
>>>>>         discharge!
>>>>>         My magnetic Battery when run as an electrolytic cell
>>>>>         to produce
>>>>>         hydrogen does produce a huge amount of hydrogen gas as
>>>>>         shown by
>>>>>         the Dr. Ehrenhaft document.  I would tell you to
>>>>>         pursue the super
>>>>>         high Tesla magnetic flux and nickel electrodes in an
>>>>>         electrolytic
>>>>>         cell.  The major obstacle to be overcome is the rapid
>>>>>         collection
>>>>>         of ions from solution by the 1.3 Tesla flux across a
>>>>>         .020"
>>>>>         mechanical gap which quickly takes the cell into a
>>>>>         super-conduction mode which takes out the driving DC
>>>>>         power supply.
>>>>>         You can flush the magnetic gaps with distilled water
>>>>>         and the gaps
>>>>>         will show in the meg-ohm range then go to zero ohms
>>>>>         after a short
>>>>>         period of running, the gathered ions totally short
>>>>>         cell. During
>>>>>         the brief runs there is a huge amount of hydrogen gas
>>>>>         produced 
>>>>>         which I burned off as it was generated.  Much can be
>>>>>         said about
>>>>>         driving the cell with high frequencies as the Myers
>>>>>         research
>>>>>         showed.  Our friend up in Canada at George Wiseman,
>>>>>         Eagle Research
>>>>>         is running well ahead of the crowd on the production
>>>>>         of H-H-O.
>>>>>         Just for giggles!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>         16 October
>>>>>         1996
>>>>>         To: Hal
>>>>>         Fox,  Fusion Facts
>>>>>         Elemental
>>>>>         Replication ?
>>>>>          
>>>>>               Around mid
>>>>>         September
>>>>>         I put together an
>>>>>         electrolysis cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold
>>>>>         Fusion Cell
>>>>>         with the goal of
>>>>>         exploring the possibilities of making what is
>>>>>         termed “Pristine
>>>>>         Water”.   This water
>>>>>         which will be used by Homeopaths
>>>>>         will have had all memory or information
>>>>>         removed.  This is accomplished by
>>>>>         recombining monatomic
>>>>>         hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated in a
>>>>>         properly
>>>>>         designed cell.  This is
>>>>>         the ultimate in purity since this is
>>>>>         water with conditions at the time of original
>>>>>         creation.  “Holly Water”is a term
>>>>>         coined by my dear
>>>>>         friend and fellow researcher Joe Tyls of
>>>>>         Vancouver, BC.   After several weeks of
>>>>>         successful operation
>>>>>         producing water that had all the earmarks of a
>>>>>         true “pristine
>>>>>         water” a fellow
>>>>>         researcher suggested using an alternate
>>>>>         electrolyte.   A solution was selected
>>>>>         that contained 77
>>>>>         colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the
>>>>>         easiest
>>>>>         assimilated into the
>>>>>         body.   With the
>>>>>         electrolyte changed the
>>>>>         cell was put back into operation as before with a
>>>>>         nice
>>>>>         recombination burn and
>>>>>         production of the sought after “pristine
>>>>>         water”.                                                                                                                                     
>>>>>                
>>>>>             After about an
>>>>>         hour of
>>>>>         operation the cell
>>>>>         went absolutely “nuts” with the temperature
>>>>>         rapidly climbing
>>>>>         to boiling point
>>>>>         and the current out of sight. 
>>>>>         When the
>>>>>         cell was opened we found a deep red sludge deposit
>>>>>         which
>>>>>         shorted the cell
>>>>>         plates.   Our first
>>>>>         thought was that the
>>>>>         electrolytic action precipitated out the colloidal
>>>>>         minerals
>>>>>         which caused the
>>>>>         deposit found.   The 
>>>>>         electrolyte was allowed
>>>>>         to settle out the
>>>>>         precipitate.   After 
>>>>>         decanting off,  the clear electrolyte
>>>>>         was
>>>>>         returned to the
>>>>>         cell for another run. Again the cell operated
>>>>>         normally for
>>>>>         about an hour with a
>>>>>         normal recombination burn and recovery of the
>>>>>         water being
>>>>>         consumed by the cell
>>>>>         in the splitting action.   Again
>>>>>         the cell
>>>>>         temperature and current mirrored the first
>>>>>         run. 
>>>>>         Again the cell contained the same amount of
>>>>>         sludge
>>>>>         residue.   This process
>>>>>         was repeated ten (10) times
>>>>>         with exactly the same results.  
>>>>>         All of
>>>>>         the sludge was carefully dried and weighed on an
>>>>>         electronic
>>>>>         scale with a five
>>>>>         decimal
>>>>>         resolution.                     
>>>>>         The cell plates and all hardware were
>>>>>         weighed to
>>>>>         determine any loss of
>>>>>         mass that may contribute to the mass gain observed
>>>>>         in the
>>>>>         sludge.  Five hundred
>>>>>         (500) ml of the original
>>>>>         electrolyte solution used in the cell was vacuum
>>>>>         distilled to
>>>>>         determine the
>>>>>         exact mass of colloidal minerals
>>>>>         contained. 
>>>>>         When all factors were considered we came
>>>>>         out with a
>>>>>         mass gain of  48 gm
>>>>>         which cannot be explained by
>>>>>         conventional
>>>>>         electrolysis.                      
>>>>>
>>>>>             After talking
>>>>>         to Dr.
>>>>>         Robert Bass and Hal
>>>>>         Fox I learned of a patent that has been filed on
>>>>>         the
>>>>>         transmutation of elements
>>>>>         in the cold fusion cell which is the process that
>>>>>         Dr. John
>>>>>         Bockris has been so
>>>>>         active in.   Both Dr.
>>>>>         Bass and Hal Fox
>>>>>         stated that what I was observing is not the same
>>>>>         as the
>>>>>         transmutation observed
>>>>>         in the cold fusion cell since I have a overall
>>>>>         mass gain and
>>>>>         not a lateral
>>>>>         movement of elements in the periodic table toward
>>>>>         lighter
>>>>>         elements with a
>>>>>         resulting heat release.  This
>>>>>         unusual
>>>>>         cell operation has caused quite a reaction in the
>>>>>         scientific
>>>>>         community.  At this
>>>>>         time I have built a complete new cell
>>>>>         with every possible factor which could possibly
>>>>>         explain the
>>>>>         mass gain
>>>>>         considered and documented.  The
>>>>>         ten (10)
>>>>>         consecutive runs on the new cell will be completed
>>>>>         soon and a
>>>>>         report will be
>>>>>         forthcoming.   What is
>>>>>         interesting about
>>>>>         this phenomenon is that when an eleventh run was
>>>>>         made with the
>>>>>         original
>>>>>         electrolyte exactly the same amount of residue was
>>>>>         recovered
>>>>>         as in the previous
>>>>>         ten
>>>>>         runs.                                                                       
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>         Since
>>>>>         the same electrolyte is reused each time with only
>>>>>         distilled
>>>>>         water being added
>>>>>         to replace the volume lost by the removal of the
>>>>>         solids and
>>>>>         the water recovered
>>>>>         by the recombination burn we are hard pressed to
>>>>>         explain the
>>>>>         observed
>>>>>         phenomenon.     The
>>>>>         electrolyte appears
>>>>>         stronger in mineral concentration and shows no
>>>>>         sign of
>>>>>
>>>>>         depletion.                                
>>>>>
>>>>>            After conferring
>>>>>         with
>>>>>         Joe Tyls we arrived at
>>>>>         the conclusion that the 77 colloidal minerals
>>>>>         contained in the
>>>>>         electrolyte
>>>>>         provide the atomic templates needed for the
>>>>>         monatomic hydrogen
>>>>>         (father of all
>>>>>         the elements) to replicate selected elements in
>>>>>         this exotic
>>>>>         mixture.  If you
>>>>>         subscribe to the theories of the late
>>>>>         Walter Russell and his explanation of the octave
>>>>>         based
>>>>>         periodic table with
>>>>>         monatonic hydrogen being what he describes as
>>>>>         hydrons
>>>>>         (precursor to hydrogen)
>>>>>         then it is possible for the replication of
>>>>>         elements directly
>>>>>         from energy input
>>>>>         alone.  This is how all
>>>>>         matter was
>>>>>         created in the beginning as described by
>>>>>         Schappeller in “The
>>>>>         Physics of the
>>>>>         Primary State of Matter”.    I
>>>>>         will keep
>>>>>         all informed as to our progress and findings in
>>>>>         this very
>>>>>         intriguing venture.
>>>>>          
>>>>>         Norman
>>>>>         Wootan
>>>>>         P.O.
>>>>>         Box 141049
>>>>>         Dallas,
>>>>>         TX 75214
>>>>>         (214)
>>>>>         360-0865
>>>>>          
>>>>>          
>>>>>         CC:  Gene Mallove,
>>>>>         Infinite
>>>>>         Energy
>>>>>         CC:  Dr. John
>>>>>         Bockris, Texas
>>>>>         A/M
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>         On 10/28/2018 1:01 AM,
>>>>>         Jakob Wall
>>>>>         wall_jakob@... <mailto:wall_jakob@...>
>>>>>         [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>         Thanks Norman,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>         BTW, what is the most effective water split
>>>>>         device that
>>>>>         you ever put you hands on?
>>>>>
>>>>>         As HHO researcher for dekades you should be
>>>>>         able to point
>>>>>         us directly to the most effective known!
>>>>>
>>>>>         Please be specific about reconstruction of the
>>>>>         same, since
>>>>>         we are in public domain it will become public
>>>>>         knowledge
>>>>>         and public good. I assume you intend nothing
>>>>>         else,rigth ?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>         --------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>>         On Sat, 10/27/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>>         <mailto:nwootan@...>
>>>>>         [EVGRAY]
>>>>>         <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>         wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>         Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's
>>>>>         Magnetic
>>>>>         Battery [3 Attachments]
>>>>>
>>>>>         To: "Bert Pool" <BertPool512@...> <mailto:BertPool512@...>,
>>>>>         "Bob
>>>>>         Paddock" <bob.paddock@...> <mailto:bob.paddock@...>,
>>>>>         "joel mcclain"
>>>>>         <joel_76670@...> <mailto:joel_76670@...>,
>>>>>         "Jon Gentry"
>>>>>         <jongen422@...> <mailto:jongen422@...>,
>>>>>         "Lane Wootan"
>>>>>         <lanewootan@...> <mailto:lanewootan@...>,
>>>>>         "Mbking42"
>>>>>         <mbking42@...> <mailto:mbking42@...>,
>>>>>         "Toby Grotz"
>>>>>         <wireless2@...> <mailto:wireless2@...>,
>>>>>         "Phil Rembold"
>>>>>         <prembold@...> <mailto:prembold@...>,
>>>>>         "Angel Alvarez"
>>>>>         <angel@...> <mailto:angel@...>,
>>>>>         "Fredric Fletcher"
>>>>>         <ffletcher@...> <mailto:ffletcher@...>,
>>>>>         [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>
>>>>>         To understand the unwinding of a thread
>>>>>         leading
>>>>>
>>>>>         to Magnetic
>>>>>
>>>>>         Generating Hydrogen and this Magnetic Battery,
>>>>>         we have
>>>>>
>>>>>         to dust off
>>>>>
>>>>>         our  9th grade Chemistry Books!
>>>>>
>>>>>         http://www.rexresearch.com/ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm     
>>>>>
>>>>>         I guess Dr.
>>>>>
>>>>>         Ehrenhaft was the first to propose a Magnetic
>>>>>         Current.
>>>>>
>>>>>         (Jon
>>>>>
>>>>>         Gentry, Your liquid metal vortex helix).
>>>>>
>>>>>         https://revolution-green.com/can-electrolysis-powered-magnets/      
>>>>>
>>>>>         Ah! Ha!  more on Magnetic Currents!!!
>>>>>
>>>>>         https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446.html
>>>>>
>>>>>         https://www.labmanager.com/white-papers-and-application-notes/2010/05/resistivity-conductivity-measurement-of-purified-water#.W9So9uJRc2w
>>>>>
>>>>>         https://www.askiitians.com/forums/Physical-Chemistry/19/19074/electro-che
>>>>>
>>>>>         https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpotential
>>>>>
>>>>>         https://www.quora.com/Why-is-oxygen-molecule-paramagnetic-although-it-does-not-contain-any-unpaired-electron
>>>>>
>>>>>         https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251580541_The_effect_of_magnetic_force_on_hydrogen_production_efficiency_in_water_electrolysis
>>>>>
>>>>>         http://www.physicscentral.com/experiment/physicsathome/electricwhirlpool.cfm
>>>>>
>>>>>         http://www.linux-host.org/energy/bmagpump.htm
>>>>>
>>>>>         Now Jon Gentry you have your liquid metal pump
>>>>>         so
>>>>>
>>>>>         that you can
>>>>>
>>>>>         make the helix tube Vortex! 
>>>>>         Ferricpetacarbonyl or
>>>>>
>>>>>         micro fine neo
>>>>>
>>>>>         powder to provide the liquid metal for pump
>>>>>
>>>>>         circuit.
>>>>>
>>>>>         Lots of reading here!     Please think
>>>>>         about the
>>>>>
>>>>>         ramifications of
>>>>>
>>>>>         a Magnetic Current as proposed by Dr.
>>>>>         Ehrenhaft!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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Hi Norm,

The catalysts are very interesting.  Iron Cobalt and Nickel all
ferromagnetic but at different spins.

Correct me if I am wrong but based on reading your links a bingofuel
type reactor using tungsten electrodes that hopefully would last much
longer would likely produce OH rather than H and carbon monoxide, what
do you think?

Also water is strange indeed in that a pyramid or orgone accumulator
changes it and these simple changes could make for water that breaks up
more easily.  I would love to know what results you demonstrated with
the totally juvenile memory free water you put back together from the OH? 

Sorry to hear about your neck fracture, I have a similar issue and it is
extremely painful and debilitating at times.

Mick


On 11/7/2018 4:15 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
>
> On 11/7/2018 6:06 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>
>> Jakob Wall! & all other researchers on here need to read the Whole
>> Story as to why I no longer have a research lab.  Jakob, I'm sorry I
>> did not reveal to you the BEST in my opinion of methods of producing
>> hydrogen gas for I felt it was a little too advanced and difficult
>> for you to experiment with.  See:
>> https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en .   There is a very
>> long story behind this US Patent and a hell of a lot of research. The
>> quest for a very inexpensive method of splitting water has been the
>> Holy Grail of  cheap energy.   In addition to the research papers and
>> links that I gave to you, here are some more to dwell on.
>>
>> https://www.researchgate.net/post/At_what_temperature_water_will_decompose_to_Oxygen_and_Hydrogen
>>
>> https://www.quora.com/Does-water-break-down-into-oxygen-and-hydrogen-at-high-temperatures-If-so-then-at-what-temperature
>>
>> https://www.quora.com/How-much-water-can-you-split-into-hydrogen-and-oxygen-using-electrolysis-with-one-kilowatt-hour-of-electricity
>>
>> http://www.redrok.com/hion96a1.htm
>>
>> https://www.nature.com/articles/nplants201741   Please read carefully
>> about the play of Nickel in this approach!
>>
>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_splitting
>>
>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water-gas_shift_reaction    I owned
>> 77 acres of land in Eureka Springs, AR where they still had the old
>> water gas generator and gas storage facility.
>>
>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decarboxylation
>>
>> https://phys.org/news/2018-02-uncovers-mechanism-water-splitting-catalyst.html
>>
>> https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/new-catalyst-could-split-water-cheaply/
>>
>> https://www.technologyreview.com/s/512996/a-cheaper-way-to-make-hydrogen-from-water/
>>
>> "*SUPER STEAM* - A Tesla conference in Colorado surfaces new Super
>> Steam Technology (SST). Leonard Dorsett and friends from Texas share
>> strikingly similar views to Aquarian Agency Ltd. They have technology
>> which produces steam instantly at up to 3,000F without a boiler and
>> with 60% savings in fuel over traditional boilers. Nitrogen rich, it
>> can put out gasoline fires and treat many waste problems. Of major
>> importance to Aquarian, this nitrogen-rich steam will help to produce
>> heat and Aquastone at considerable savings."
>>
>> For further information on Aquarian Agency Ltd. they can be contacted
>> at 38 Weir Rd, Wimbledon, London SW19 SUG, England or on Internet at
>> <aquarian ocign.ape.org>. *_SUPER STEAM TECHNOLOGY PART 2_*
>>
>> Leonard Dorsett (PO Box 365, Grapevine, TX 76092) demonstrated his
>> Super Steam Technology at the 1994 International Tesla Symposium. SST
>> is a system for producing steam at any temperature or pressure
>> independently and instantly without the need for a conventional
>> boiler. It can instantly produce steam of any temperature from hot
>> water at 180F to super heated steam at over 3000F, while pressures
>> can vary from 1PSI to 3000PSI with airflow volumes of 1CFM up to over
>> 2000CFM. The system operates on propane, methane, petrol, kerosene,
>> methanol, diesel, hydrogen or just about anything else that bums and
>> converts virtually 100% of the fuel into usable energy. (Note: The
>> person in the picture is Norman Wootan of MRA fame)
>>
>> This all sounds great, but how does it work? The basis of the unit is
>> a specially designed open throat chamber with controlled air, water
>> and fuel interaction and a high voltage ignition resulting in a
>> direct fire process establishing thermal zones. This creates a
>> stoichiometric condition resulting in a full spectrum of steam
>> product. Now comes the interesting part At the increased temperatures
>> of steam, disassociation occurs. (Could this be a clue to running
>> cars on water??) The hydrogen and oxygen reacts causing an
>> exponential increase of energy resulting in super heated steam. A
>> similar superheat process was addressed by Tesla in the October 12,
>> 1911 publication of the "Engineering News Record".
>>
>> Applications of the SST system include a much more economical way of
>> producing electricity as no conventional boiler is needed. It will
>> also be an ideal low cost method for heating and cooling homes and
>> businesses. Small portable units can be developed for home use, such
>> as steam cleaning, and insect and ant removal, without the dangers of
>> insecticides. The system can also be used for low cost purification
>> of polluted water or sewerage and can also convert salt water into
>> drinking water both quickly and inexpensively. Other uses are in fire
>> fighting applications, ice and snow removal from roads, etc. and
>> sterilization and nurturing of soil for agriculture where
>> contamination has occurred.
>>
>> I had designed a method of making hydrogen from carbon & water vapor
>> using the Tesla Atomic Bombardment method of high frequency inside of
>> spherical inclosure like this experiments with the carbon button lamp
>> globes.   After working with Leonard Dorsett and his Super Steam
>> Project, I chose to use the Water Shift Process instead.  A side note
>> is needed here!  The Super Steam Process was a result of Professor
>> Brown studying the method the German's used for torpedo propulsion
>> from WWI.  Acetylene Gas and sea water produced an exothermic
>> reaction generating Super Steam. Brown built several reactors and
>> tested them in the Tulsa area to break (down hole) the parafin
>> deposits to release crude oil.
>>
>> The Chemical equation for the reaction in the US Patent:
>> https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en
>>
>> *(6C + 12 H2O  = 6CO2 + 24H) *
>>
>> Hydrogen Reactor Development
>>
>> * *
>>
>> Original concept design was a high voltage, high frequency resonant
>> device that utilized carbon water reaction with the feedstock being
>> in the form of graphite rod stock.  This unit was designed for
>> vehicle application and had too many limitations to be used for mass
>> hydrogen generation.  This type reactor is very effective at hydrogen
>> production since it targets the water vapor molecule at MRI
>> frequencies, which breaks the bonding, allowing the carbon to latch
>> onto the oxygen atoms leaving the hydrogen free. This device was a
>> closed system that used a simple CO2/hydrogen separation stage that
>> enabled the hydrogen to be feed to an internal combustion engine.
>>
>> * *
>>
>> *To allow for a sustained high mass flow of hydrogen gas output,
>> reactor design took on a radical change.  By incorporating the
>> Ranque/Hilsch, Counter Flow Implosion Vortex Principle, and
>> continuous high mass flow and gas separation were achieved in one
>> stage of operation.  Feedstock for this type reactor could be any
>> carbon-based material that could be put into a powder form.  Highest
>> carbon content of the feedstock provides for the most efficient
>> hydrogen production with the least undesirable output material.*
>>
>> * *
>>
>> *Super high temperature operating regime was chosen to be above 2500
>> C for the purpose of producing atomic hydrogen in the process.  The
>> original reactor operated at temperatures that easily gasified basic
>> carbon into a plasma state (>10,000 F) more easily allowing the
>> production of hydrogen from the stoichiometric feed stock ratios.*
>>
>> *
>> *
>>
>> **
>>
>> I sold one of my Patents (Sonodiffuser) and paid for my 52 acres of
>> land and built a 5200 sq. Ft. lab the do the Prototype machining and
>> Proof of Concept testing for GAZPROM, Moscow in 2005. A $1.2 million
>> investment and they got the rights to the process and I got the
>> beautiful Research Lab all paid in full. I was a self employed
>> Contractor in Dallas working with HVAC, Electrical and Electronics
>> Maintenance so had to commute 170 miles/day and only had the week
>> ends for my time! Having to mow grass and maintane the 52 acres took
>> all my time and when I suffered a neck fracture in 2012, had to
>> retire. Liquidated the entire facility and sold it off. Moved to
>> Dallas then to South Louisiana where I now do a lot of relaxing and
>> fishing!
>>
>> Hector and ALL, I did my time in the Barrel so now I will just
>> contribute to the dialog inorder to assist any research you may be
>> doing within my area of experitise!     BTW! I have been out to
>> pasture for a long time now, so no BULL offense!  As Hector knows,
>> "It fits"! Lol
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes! Hector, I will wear my Border Patrol Hat when you come visit
>> from PR!  Lol
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/6/2018 8:52 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>  
>>>
>>>
>>> By the way ... i can hit mega millions or the power ball  . i never
>>> will not have a lab i can work in,  that is worst than death , you
>>> have no idea of the technology that had being lost by the greedy
>>> fucking bastards fucking my life , they will loose all they have 
>>> "soon" because it had being engineered that way by accumulative bad
>>> karma, i have another lab they will never reach or be able to
>>> intercept or destroy and that will decide their fate ..... they will
>>> be fucked hard !
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> (H)   
>>>
>>> ---In [email protected], <mkjekyll@...> wrote :
>>>
>>> Cmon Hector,
>>>
>>> Bad taste!
>>>
>>> The man had a more serious lab than anyone else here and his work
>>> speaks for itself.  Maybe he has gained the fortune he desired
>>> through R&D and now shitting in tall cotton or gone fishing reaping
>>> the rewards of retirement. Notwithstanding is still kind enough to
>>> help point us in the right directions around here.
>>>
>>> "*Funny–I can look back on a life of achievement, on challenges met,
>>> competitors bested, obstacles overcome. I’ve accomplished more than
>>> most men, and without the use of my legs. What?What makes a man, Mr.
>>> Lebowski?"*
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/6/2018 8:04 AM, arkresearch@... <mailto:arkresearch@...>
>>> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>>>      
>>>>
>>>>     Dar n ! a Scientist inventor with no lab is like a breeding
>>>>     bull with no balls !
>>>>
>>>>     Balls Cow GIF - Balls Cow WingDangDoodle GIFs
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     ---In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>,
>>>>     <nwootan@...> <mailto:nwootan@...> wrote :
>>>>
>>>>     Jacob! You asked me a question and I gave you my opinion!  I'm
>>>>     totally retired at 80 years old and have no lab to experiment
>>>>     in!  Your quote; I heard once a phrase from a researcher who
>>>>     said. '' Slow down boy, we get paid for llooking for solutions,
>>>>     not to find them!''   That certainly does not apply to me for I
>>>>     have shared all with the folks on this site.  I find you
>>>>     statement very interesting:  Technics that use up 10 % of a
>>>>     magnet in 24 hours with usual amount of gas looks to me
>>>>     extremely inefficient.   ??????        Care to share where you
>>>>     saw the power of a permanent magnet being used up!   We all
>>>>     here on this site share what ever knowledge we have on the
>>>>     various subjects not seeking any monetary gain in any way! That
>>>>     is my approach!   I just contribute to the dialog when I run
>>>>     across something interesting and think it will assist you
>>>>     guys!   Norm
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     On 11/3/2018 11:32 PM, Jakob Wall wall_jakob@...
>>>>     <mailto:wall_jakob@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>         Thanks Norman,
>>>>>         But i actually asced for ''most efficient way'' to split
>>>>>         water known to you!
>>>>>         I realize there are a lot of different technigues to do
>>>>>         just that.
>>>>>         And yes i realize you could give me a rather complex
>>>>>         answer. But instead i hope for a
>>>>>         rather easy and reproductive answer since i am looking
>>>>>         forward to solve my enerrgy
>>>>>         problems i just can not live with the momentary (sad and
>>>>>         very stupid energy situation)
>>>>>         I am still not giving up becouse of a couple mistakes and
>>>>>         misunderstandings.
>>>>>         If i would be a car dealer and you would ask me for a most
>>>>>         efficient car available on the market
>>>>>         i would for sure not recommend a Prius, since there are a
>>>>>         lot of cars with better fuel economie
>>>>>         even without being a hybrid and without additional cost
>>>>>         like batterys,e-motors and a bunch added ECU's
>>>>>
>>>>>         Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours with
>>>>>         usual amount of gas looks to me extremely
>>>>>         inefficient.
>>>>>         Also very expensive HHO-Garage products with output of 1,6
>>>>>         ltr/min.
>>>>>         Come on, 6 rusty nails and a old car batery does this job,
>>>>>         no need to spend 1600 bucks on it.
>>>>>         I honestly expected solide advise or a honest NO way boy,
>>>>>         i just talking around.
>>>>>
>>>>>         I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. '' Slow
>>>>>         down boy, we get paid for llooking for
>>>>>         solutions, not to find them!'' That shoked me deeply and
>>>>>         even if i get 150 years old, i will not forget it.
>>>>>         Thats true treason on mankind and deciving the people. I
>>>>>         really hope nobody on this forum only care
>>>>>         about what he/she will be doing tomorrow.
>>>>>
>>>>>         Jakob
>>>>>
>>>>>         --------------------------------------------
>>>>>         On Sun, 10/28/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>>         <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
>>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>         Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery
>>>>>         To: [email protected]
>>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]>, "Bert Pool"
>>>>>         <BertPool512@...> <mailto:BertPool512@...>, "Bob Paddock"
>>>>>         <bob.paddock@...> <mailto:bob.paddock@...>, "joel mcclain"
>>>>>         <joel_76670@...> <mailto:joel_76670@...>, "Jon Gentry"
>>>>>         <jongen422@...> <mailto:jongen422@...>, "Mbking42"
>>>>>         <mbking42@...> <mailto:mbking42@...>, "Toby Grotz"
>>>>>         <wireless2@...> <mailto:wireless2@...>, "Phil Rembold"
>>>>>         <prembold@...> <mailto:prembold@...>, "Angel Alvarez"
>>>>>         <angel@...> <mailto:angel@...>, "Fredric Fletcher"
>>>>>         <ffletcher@...> <mailto:ffletcher@...>
>>>>>         Received: Sunday, October 28, 2018, 9:44 AM
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>         Jacob!  That would be a rather complex answer
>>>>>         but here is your
>>>>>         starting point!
>>>>>         https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct-thermomagnetic-splitting-of-water-.html   
>>>>>         After having been heavily involved in the COLD FUSION
>>>>>         Research
>>>>>         back in the 70s and 80s I quickly settled o0n the best
>>>>>         catalyst in
>>>>>         electrolytic cells which is pure nickel. I still have
>>>>>         the cell
>>>>>         used in the Elemental Replication experiments.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>         http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm    
>>>>>         The hidden
>>>>>         part of this research is the use of a nickel component
>>>>>         in the
>>>>>         combustion chamber. Bosch developed 90,000V ignition
>>>>>         systems to
>>>>>         enable water injection in gas engine which high
>>>>>         lighted the
>>>>>         Graneau HV decomposition of water via HVDC
>>>>>         discharge!
>>>>>         My magnetic Battery when run as an electrolytic cell
>>>>>         to produce
>>>>>         hydrogen does produce a huge amount of hydrogen gas as
>>>>>         shown by
>>>>>         the Dr. Ehrenhaft document.  I would tell you to
>>>>>         pursue the super
>>>>>         high Tesla magnetic flux and nickel electrodes in an
>>>>>         electrolytic
>>>>>         cell.  The major obstacle to be overcome is the rapid
>>>>>         collection
>>>>>         of ions from solution by the 1.3 Tesla flux across a
>>>>>         .020"
>>>>>         mechanical gap which quickly takes the cell into a
>>>>>         super-conduction mode which takes out the driving DC
>>>>>         power supply.
>>>>>         You can flush the magnetic gaps with distilled water
>>>>>         and the gaps
>>>>>         will show in the meg-ohm range then go to zero ohms
>>>>>         after a short
>>>>>         period of running, the gathered ions totally short
>>>>>         cell. During
>>>>>         the brief runs there is a huge amount of hydrogen gas
>>>>>         produced 
>>>>>         which I burned off as it was generated.  Much can be
>>>>>         said about
>>>>>         driving the cell with high frequencies as the Myers
>>>>>         research
>>>>>         showed.  Our friend up in Canada at George Wiseman,
>>>>>         Eagle Research
>>>>>         is running well ahead of the crowd on the production
>>>>>         of H-H-O.
>>>>>         Just for giggles!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>         16 October
>>>>>         1996
>>>>>         To: Hal
>>>>>         Fox,  Fusion Facts
>>>>>         Elemental
>>>>>         Replication ?
>>>>>          
>>>>>               Around mid
>>>>>         September
>>>>>         I put together an
>>>>>         electrolysis cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold
>>>>>         Fusion Cell
>>>>>         with the goal of
>>>>>         exploring the possibilities of making what is
>>>>>         termed “Pristine
>>>>>         Water”.   This water
>>>>>         which will be used by Homeopaths
>>>>>         will have had all memory or information
>>>>>         removed.  This is accomplished by
>>>>>         recombining monatomic
>>>>>         hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated in a
>>>>>         properly
>>>>>         designed cell.  This is
>>>>>         the ultimate in purity since this is
>>>>>         water with conditions at the time of original
>>>>>         creation.  “Holly Water”is a term
>>>>>         coined by my dear
>>>>>         friend and fellow researcher Joe Tyls of
>>>>>         Vancouver, BC.   After several weeks of
>>>>>         successful operation
>>>>>         producing water that had all the earmarks of a
>>>>>         true “pristine
>>>>>         water” a fellow
>>>>>         researcher suggested using an alternate
>>>>>         electrolyte.   A solution was selected
>>>>>         that contained 77
>>>>>         colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the
>>>>>         easiest
>>>>>         assimilated into the
>>>>>         body.   With the
>>>>>         electrolyte changed the
>>>>>         cell was put back into operation as before with a
>>>>>         nice
>>>>>         recombination burn and
>>>>>         production of the sought after “pristine
>>>>>         water”.                                                                                                                                     
>>>>>                
>>>>>             After about an
>>>>>         hour of
>>>>>         operation the cell
>>>>>         went absolutely “nuts” with the temperature
>>>>>         rapidly climbing
>>>>>         to boiling point
>>>>>         and the current out of sight. 
>>>>>         When the
>>>>>         cell was opened we found a deep red sludge deposit
>>>>>         which
>>>>>         shorted the cell
>>>>>         plates.   Our first
>>>>>         thought was that the
>>>>>         electrolytic action precipitated out the colloidal
>>>>>         minerals
>>>>>         which caused the
>>>>>         deposit found.   The 
>>>>>         electrolyte was allowed
>>>>>         to settle out the
>>>>>         precipitate.   After 
>>>>>         decanting off,  the clear electrolyte
>>>>>         was
>>>>>         returned to the
>>>>>         cell for another run. Again the cell operated
>>>>>         normally for
>>>>>         about an hour with a
>>>>>         normal recombination burn and recovery of the
>>>>>         water being
>>>>>         consumed by the cell
>>>>>         in the splitting action.   Again
>>>>>         the cell
>>>>>         temperature and current mirrored the first
>>>>>         run. 
>>>>>         Again the cell contained the same amount of
>>>>>         sludge
>>>>>         residue.   This process
>>>>>         was repeated ten (10) times
>>>>>         with exactly the same results.  
>>>>>         All of
>>>>>         the sludge was carefully dried and weighed on an
>>>>>         electronic
>>>>>         scale with a five
>>>>>         decimal
>>>>>         resolution.                     
>>>>>         The cell plates and all hardware were
>>>>>         weighed to
>>>>>         determine any loss of
>>>>>         mass that may contribute to the mass gain observed
>>>>>         in the
>>>>>         sludge.  Five hundred
>>>>>         (500) ml of the original
>>>>>         electrolyte solution used in the cell was vacuum
>>>>>         distilled to
>>>>>         determine the
>>>>>         exact mass of colloidal minerals
>>>>>         contained. 
>>>>>         When all factors were considered we came
>>>>>         out with a
>>>>>         mass gain of  48 gm
>>>>>         which cannot be explained by
>>>>>         conventional
>>>>>         electrolysis.                      
>>>>>
>>>>>             After talking
>>>>>         to Dr.
>>>>>         Robert Bass and Hal
>>>>>         Fox I learned of a patent that has been filed on
>>>>>         the
>>>>>         transmutation of elements
>>>>>         in the cold fusion cell which is the process that
>>>>>         Dr. John
>>>>>         Bockris has been so
>>>>>         active in.   Both Dr.
>>>>>         Bass and Hal Fox
>>>>>         stated that what I was observing is not the same
>>>>>         as the
>>>>>         transmutation observed
>>>>>         in the cold fusion cell since I have a overall
>>>>>         mass gain and
>>>>>         not a lateral
>>>>>         movement of elements in the periodic table toward
>>>>>         lighter
>>>>>         elements with a
>>>>>         resulting heat release.  This
>>>>>         unusual
>>>>>         cell operation has caused quite a reaction in the
>>>>>         scientific
>>>>>         community.  At this
>>>>>         time I have built a complete new cell
>>>>>         with every possible factor which could possibly
>>>>>         explain the
>>>>>         mass gain
>>>>>         considered and documented.  The
>>>>>         ten (10)
>>>>>         consecutive runs on the new cell will be completed
>>>>>         soon and a
>>>>>         report will be
>>>>>         forthcoming.   What is
>>>>>         interesting about
>>>>>         this phenomenon is that when an eleventh run was
>>>>>         made with the
>>>>>         original
>>>>>         electrolyte exactly the same amount of residue was
>>>>>         recovered
>>>>>         as in the previous
>>>>>         ten
>>>>>         runs.                                                                       
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>         Since
>>>>>         the same electrolyte is reused each time with only
>>>>>         distilled
>>>>>         water being added
>>>>>         to replace the volume lost by the removal of the
>>>>>         solids and
>>>>>         the water recovered
>>>>>         by the recombination burn we are hard pressed to
>>>>>         explain the
>>>>>         observed
>>>>>         phenomenon.     The
>>>>>         electrolyte appears
>>>>>         stronger in mineral concentration and shows no
>>>>>         sign of
>>>>>
>>>>>         depletion.                                
>>>>>
>>>>>            After conferring
>>>>>         with
>>>>>         Joe Tyls we arrived at
>>>>>         the conclusion that the 77 colloidal minerals
>>>>>         contained in the
>>>>>         electrolyte
>>>>>         provide the atomic templates needed for the
>>>>>         monatomic hydrogen
>>>>>         (father of all
>>>>>         the elements) to replicate selected elements in
>>>>>         this exotic
>>>>>         mixture.  If you
>>>>>         subscribe to the theories of the late
>>>>>         Walter Russell and his explanation of the octave
>>>>>         based
>>>>>         periodic table with
>>>>>         monatonic hydrogen being what he describes as
>>>>>         hydrons
>>>>>         (precursor to hydrogen)
>>>>>         then it is possible for the replication of
>>>>>         elements directly
>>>>>         from energy input
>>>>>         alone.  This is how all
>>>>>         matter was
>>>>>         created in the beginning as described by
>>>>>         Schappeller in “The
>>>>>         Physics of the
>>>>>         Primary State of Matter”.    I
>>>>>         will keep
>>>>>         all informed as to our progress and findings in
>>>>>         this very
>>>>>         intriguing venture.
>>>>>          
>>>>>         Norman
>>>>>         Wootan
>>>>>         P.O.
>>>>>         Box 141049
>>>>>         Dallas,
>>>>>         TX 75214
>>>>>         (214)
>>>>>         360-0865
>>>>>          
>>>>>          
>>>>>         CC:  Gene Mallove,
>>>>>         Infinite
>>>>>         Energy
>>>>>         CC:  Dr. John
>>>>>         Bockris, Texas
>>>>>         A/M
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>         On 10/28/2018 1:01 AM,
>>>>>         Jakob Wall
>>>>>         wall_jakob@... <mailto:wall_jakob@...>
>>>>>         [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>         Thanks Norman,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>         BTW, what is the most effective water split
>>>>>         device that
>>>>>         you ever put you hands on?
>>>>>
>>>>>         As HHO researcher for dekades you should be
>>>>>         able to point
>>>>>         us directly to the most effective known!
>>>>>
>>>>>         Please be specific about reconstruction of the
>>>>>         same, since
>>>>>         we are in public domain it will become public
>>>>>         knowledge
>>>>>         and public good. I assume you intend nothing
>>>>>         else,rigth ?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>         --------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>>         On Sat, 10/27/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>>         <mailto:nwootan@...>
>>>>>         [EVGRAY]
>>>>>         <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>         wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>         Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's
>>>>>         Magnetic
>>>>>         Battery [3 Attachments]
>>>>>
>>>>>         To: "Bert Pool" <BertPool512@...> <mailto:BertPool512@...>,
>>>>>         "Bob
>>>>>         Paddock" <bob.paddock@...> <mailto:bob.paddock@...>,
>>>>>         "joel mcclain"
>>>>>         <joel_76670@...> <mailto:joel_76670@...>,
>>>>>         "Jon Gentry"
>>>>>         <jongen422@...> <mailto:jongen422@...>,
>>>>>         "Lane Wootan"
>>>>>         <lanewootan@...> <mailto:lanewootan@...>,
>>>>>         "Mbking42"
>>>>>         <mbking42@...> <mailto:mbking42@...>,
>>>>>         "Toby Grotz"
>>>>>         <wireless2@...> <mailto:wireless2@...>,
>>>>>         "Phil Rembold"
>>>>>         <prembold@...> <mailto:prembold@...>,
>>>>>         "Angel Alvarez"
>>>>>         <angel@...> <mailto:angel@...>,
>>>>>         "Fredric Fletcher"
>>>>>         <ffletcher@...> <mailto:ffletcher@...>,
>>>>>         [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>
>>>>>         To understand the unwinding of a thread
>>>>>         leading
>>>>>
>>>>>         to Magnetic
>>>>>
>>>>>         Generating Hydrogen and this Magnetic Battery,
>>>>>         we have
>>>>>
>>>>>         to dust off
>>>>>
>>>>>         our  9th grade Chemistry Books!
>>>>>
>>>>>         http://www.rexresearch.com/ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm     
>>>>>
>>>>>         I guess Dr.
>>>>>
>>>>>         Ehrenhaft was the first to propose a Magnetic
>>>>>         Current.
>>>>>
>>>>>         (Jon
>>>>>
>>>>>         Gentry, Your liquid metal vortex helix).
>>>>>
>>>>>         https://revolution-green.com/can-electrolysis-powered-magnets/      
>>>>>
>>>>>         Ah! Ha!  more on Magnetic Currents!!!
>>>>>
>>>>>         https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446.html
>>>>>
>>>>>         https://www.labmanager.com/white-papers-and-application-notes/2010/05/resistivity-conductivity-measurement-of-purified-water#.W9So9uJRc2w
>>>>>
>>>>>         https://www.askiitians.com/forums/Physical-Chemistry/19/19074/electro-che
>>>>>
>>>>>         https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpotential
>>>>>
>>>>>         https://www.quora.com/Why-is-oxygen-molecule-paramagnetic-although-it-does-not-contain-any-unpaired-electron
>>>>>
>>>>>         https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251580541_The_effect_of_magnetic_force_on_hydrogen_production_efficiency_in_water_electrolysis
>>>>>
>>>>>         http://www.physicscentral.com/experiment/physicsathome/electricwhirlpool.cfm
>>>>>
>>>>>         http://www.linux-host.org/energy/bmagpump.htm
>>>>>
>>>>>         Now Jon Gentry you have your liquid metal pump
>>>>>         so
>>>>>
>>>>>         that you can
>>>>>
>>>>>         make the helix tube Vortex! 
>>>>>         Ferricpetacarbonyl or
>>>>>
>>>>>         micro fine neo
>>>>>
>>>>>         powder to provide the liquid metal for pump
>>>>>
>>>>>         circuit.
>>>>>
>>>>>         Lots of reading here!     Please think
>>>>>         about the
>>>>>
>>>>>         ramifications of
>>>>>
>>>>>         a Magnetic Current as proposed by Dr.
>>>>>         Ehrenhaft!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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I want to prepare some findings on "Catalysts" tomorrow. I need to pull up some interesting info for you all!

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 4:52 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
 

Hi Norm,
 
The catalysts are very interesting.  Iron Cobalt and Nickel all ferromagnetic but at different spins.
 
Correct me if I am wrong but based on reading your links a bingofuel type reactor using tungsten electrodes that hopefully would last much longer would likely produce OH rather than H and carbon monoxide, what do you think?
 
Also water is strange indeed in that a pyramid or orgone accumulator changes it and these simple changes could make for water that breaks up more easily.  I would love to know what results you demonstrated with the totally juvenile memory free water you put back together from the OH?  
 
 
Sorry to hear about your neck fracture, I have a similar issue and it is extremely painful and debilitating at times.
 
Mick
 
 
 On 11/7/2018 4:15 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
 
 

 
 On 11/7/2018 6:06 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
  
 
Jakob Wall! & all other researchers on here need to read the Whole Story as to why I no longer have a research lab.  Jakob, I'm sorry I did not reveal to you the BEST in my opinion of methods of producing hydrogen gas for I felt it was a little too advanced and difficult for you to experiment with.  See: https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en .   There is a very long story behind this US Patent and a hell of a lot of research. The quest for a very inexpensive method of splitting water has been the Holy Grail of  cheap energy.   In addition to the research papers and links that I gave to you, here are some more to dwell on.
 
https://www.researchgate.net/post/At_what_temperature_water_will_decompose_to_Oxygen_and_Hydrogen
 
https://www.quora.com/Does-water-break-down-into-oxygen-and-hydrogen-at-high-temperatures-If-so-then-at-what-temperature
 
https://www.quora.com/How-much-water-can-you-split-into-hydrogen-and-oxygen-using-electrolysis-with-one-kilowatt-hour-of-electricity
 
http://www.redrok.com/hion96a1.htm
 
https://www.nature.com/articles/nplants201741   Please read carefully about the play of Nickel in this approach!
 
 
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_splitting
 
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water-gas_shift_reaction    I owned 77 acres of land in Eureka Springs, AR where they still had the old water gas generator and gas storage facility.
 
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decarboxylation
 
https://phys.org/news/2018-02-uncovers-mechanism-water-splitting-catalyst.html
 
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/new-catalyst-could-split-water-cheaply/
 
https://www.technologyreview.com/s/512996/a-cheaper-way-to-make-hydrogen-from-water/
 
"SUPER STEAM - A Tesla conference in Colorado surfaces new Super Steam Technology (SST). Leonard Dorsett and friends from Texas share strikingly similar views to Aquarian Agency Ltd. They have technology which produces steam instantly at up to 3,000F without a boiler and with 60% savings in fuel over traditional boilers. Nitrogen rich, it can put out gasoline fires and treat many waste problems. Of major importance to Aquarian, this nitrogen-rich steam will help to produce heat and Aquastone at considerable savings."
 
 For further information on Aquarian Agency Ltd. they can be contacted at 38 Weir Rd, Wimbledon, London SW19 SUG, England or on Internet at <aquarian ocign.ape.org>. SUPER STEAM TECHNOLOGY PART 2
 
 Leonard Dorsett (PO Box 365, Grapevine, TX 76092) demonstrated his Super Steam Technology at the 1994 International Tesla Symposium. SST is a system for producing steam at any temperature or pressure independently and instantly without the need for a conventional boiler. It can instantly produce steam of any temperature from hot water at 180F to super heated steam at over 3000F, while pressures can vary from 1PSI to 3000PSI with airflow volumes of 1CFM up to over 2000CFM. The system operates on propane, methane, petrol, kerosene, methanol, diesel, hydrogen or just  about anything else that bums and converts virtually 100% of the fuel into usable energy. (Note: The person in the picture is Norman Wootan of MRA fame)
 
 This all sounds great, but how does it work? The basis of the unit is a specially designed open throat chamber with controlled air, water and fuel interaction and a high voltage ignition resulting in a direct fire process establishing thermal zones. This creates a stoichiometric condition resulting in a full spectrum of steam product. Now comes the interesting part At the increased temperatures of steam, disassociation occurs. (Could this be a clue to running cars on water??) The hydrogen and oxygen reacts causing an exponential increase of energy resulting in super heated steam. A similar superheat process was addressed by Tesla in the October 12, 1911 publication of the "Engineering News Record".
 
 Applications of the SST system include a much more economical way of producing electricity as no conventional boiler is needed. It will also be an ideal low cost method for heating and cooling homes and businesses. Small portable units can be developed for home use, such as steam cleaning, and insect and ant removal, without the dangers of insecticides. The system can also be used for low cost purification of polluted water or sewerage and can also convert salt water into drinking water both quickly and inexpensively. Other uses are in fire fighting applications, ice and snow removal from roads, etc. and sterilization and nurturing of soil for agriculture where contamination has occurred.
 
I had designed a method of making hydrogen from carbon & water vapor using the Tesla Atomic Bombardment method of high frequency inside of spherical inclosure like this experiments with the carbon button lamp globes.   After working with Leonard Dorsett and his Super Steam Project, I chose to use the Water Shift Process instead.  A side note is needed here!  The Super Steam Process was a result of Professor Brown studying the method the German's used for torpedo propulsion from WWI.  Acetylene Gas and sea water produced an exothermic reaction generating Super Steam. Brown built several reactors and tested them in the Tulsa area to break (down hole) the parafin deposits to release crude oil.
 
The Chemical equation for the reaction in the US Patent: https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en 
 
 

 
 
 
(6C + 12 H2O  = 6CO2 + 24H) 
 

 
 
 
Hydrogen Reactor Development
 
 
 
Original concept design was a high voltage, high frequency resonant device that utilized carbon water reaction with the feedstock being in the form of graphite rod stock.  This unit was designed for vehicle application and had too many limitations to be used for mass hydrogen generation.  This type reactor is very effective at hydrogen production since it targets the water vapor molecule at MRI frequencies, which breaks the bonding, allowing the carbon to latch onto the oxygen atoms leaving the hydrogen free. This device was a closed system that used a simple CO2/hydrogen separation stage that enabled the hydrogen to be feed to an internal combustion engine.
 
 
 
To allow for a sustained high mass flow of hydrogen gas output, reactor design took on a radical change.  By incorporating the Ranque/Hilsch, Counter Flow Implosion Vortex Principle, and continuous high mass flow and gas separation were achieved in one stage of operation.  Feedstock for this type reactor could be any carbon-based material that could be put into a powder form.  Highest carbon content of the feedstock provides for the most efficient hydrogen production with the least undesirable output material.
 
 
 
Super high temperature operating regime was chosen to be above 2500 C for the purpose of producing atomic hydrogen in the process.  The original reactor operated at temperatures that easily gasified basic carbon into a plasma state (>10,000 F) more easily allowing the production of hydrogen from the stoichiometric feed stock ratios.
 

 
 

 
I sold one of my Patents (Sonodiffuser) and paid for my 52 acres of land and built a 5200 sq. Ft. lab the do the Prototype machining and Proof of Concept testing for GAZPROM, Moscow in 2005. A $1.2 million investment and they got the rights to the process and I got the beautiful Research Lab all paid in full. I was a self employed Contractor in Dallas working with HVAC, Electrical and Electronics Maintenance so had to commute 170 miles/day and only had the week ends for my time! Having to mow grass and maintane the 52 acres took all my time and when I suffered a neck fracture in 2012, had  to retire. Liquidated the entire facility and sold it off. Moved to Dallas then to South Louisiana where I now do a lot of relaxing and fishing!
 
Hector and ALL, I did my time in the Barrel so now I will just contribute to the dialog inorder to assist any research you may be doing within my area of experitise!     BTW! I have been out to pasture for a long time now, so no BULL offense!  As Hector knows, "It fits"! Lol
 

 
 

 
 
 
 
 Yes! Hector, I will wear my Border Patrol Hat when you come visit from PR!  Lol
 

 
 

 
 

 
 On 11/6/2018 8:52 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    

 By the way ... i can hit mega millions or the power ball  . i never will not have a lab i can work in,  that is worst than death , you have no idea of the technology that had being lost by the greedy fucking bastards fucking my life , they will loose all they have  "soon" because it had being engineered that way by accumulative bad karma, i have another lab they will never reach or be able to intercept or destroy and that will decide their fate ..... they will be fucked hard ! 
 
 
 
 (H)    
 
 ---In [email protected], <mkjekyll@...> wrote :
 
 
  
Cmon Hector,
 
Bad taste!
 
 
The man had a more serious lab than anyone else here and his work speaks for itself.  Maybe he has gained the fortune he desired through R&D and now shitting in tall cotton or gone fishing reaping the rewards of retirement. Notwithstanding is still kind enough to help point us in the right directions around here.
 
"Funny–I can look back on a life of achievement, on challenges met, competitors bested, obstacles overcome. I’ve accomplished more than most men, and without the use  of my legs. What?What makes a man, Mr. Lebowski?"
 
 On 11/6/2018 8:04 AM, arkresearch@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
 
    
Dar n ! a Scientist inventor with no lab is like a breeding bull with no balls ! 
 
 
 
 
 ---In [email protected], <nwootan@...> wrote :
 
  
Jacob! You asked me a question and I gave you my opinion!  I'm totally retired at 80 years old and have no lab to experiment in!  Your quote; I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. '' Slow down boy, we get paid for llooking for solutions, not to find them!''   That certainly does not apply to me for I have shared all with the folks on this site.  I find you statement very interesting:  Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours with usual amount of gas looks to me extremely inefficient.   ??????        Care to share where you saw the power of a permanent magnet being used up!   We all here on this site share what ever knowledge we have on the various subjects not seeking any monetary gain in any way! That is my approach!   I just contribute to the dialog when I run across something interesting and think it will assist you guys!   Norm
 
 
 On 11/3/2018 11:32 PM, Jakob Wall wall_jakob@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
 
    
Thanks Norman,
 But i actually asced for ''most efficient way'' to split water known to you!
 I realize there are a lot of different technigues to do just that.
 And yes i realize you could give me a rather complex answer. But instead i hope for a 
 rather easy and reproductive answer since i am looking forward to solve my enerrgy 
 problems i just can not live with the momentary (sad and very stupid energy situation)
 I am still not giving up becouse of a couple mistakes and misunderstandings.
 If i would be a car dealer and you would ask me for a most efficient car available on the market
 i would for sure not recommend a Prius, since there are a lot of cars with better fuel economie
 even without being a hybrid and without additional cost like batterys,e-motors and a bunch added ECU's
 
 Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours with usual amount of gas looks to me extremely 
 inefficient.
 Also very expensive HHO-Garage products with output of 1,6 ltr/min.
 Come on, 6 rusty nails and a old car batery does this job, no need to spend 1600 bucks on it.
 I honestly expected solide advise or a honest NO way boy, i just talking around.
 
 I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. '' Slow down boy, we get paid for llooking for
 solutions, not to find them!'' That shoked me deeply and even if i get 150 years old, i will not forget it.
 Thats true treason on mankind and deciving the people. I really hope nobody on this forum only care 
 about what he/she will be doing tomorrow.
 
 Jakob
 
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 On Sun, 10/28/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@... [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:
 
 Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery
 To: [email protected], "Bert Pool" <BertPool512@...>, "Bob Paddock" <bob.paddock@...>, "joel mcclain" <joel_76670@...>, "Jon Gentry" <jongen422@...>, "Mbking42" <mbking42@...>, "Toby Grotz" <wireless2@...>, "Phil Rembold" <prembold@...>, "Angel Alvarez" <angel@...>, "Fredric Fletcher" <ffletcher@...>
 Received: Sunday, October 28, 2018, 9:44 AM
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Jacob!  That would be a rather complex answer
 but here is your
 starting point!
 https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct-thermomagnetic-splitting-of-water-.html   
 After having been heavily involved in the COLD FUSION
 Research
 back in the 70s and 80s I quickly settled o0n the best
 catalyst in
 electrolytic cells which is pure nickel. I still have
 the cell
 used in the Elemental Replication experiments. 
 
 
 http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm    
 The hidden
 part of this research is the use of a nickel component
 in the
 combustion chamber. Bosch developed 90,000V ignition
 systems to
 enable water injection in gas engine which high
 lighted the
 Graneau HV decomposition of water via HVDC
 discharge!
 My magnetic Battery when run as an electrolytic cell
 to produce
 hydrogen does produce a huge amount of hydrogen gas as
 shown by
 the Dr. Ehrenhaft document.  I would tell you to
 pursue the super
 high Tesla magnetic flux and nickel electrodes in an
 electrolytic
 cell.  The major obstacle to be overcome is the rapid
 collection
 of ions from solution by the 1.3 Tesla flux across a
 .020"
 mechanical gap which quickly takes the cell into a
 super-conduction mode which takes out the driving DC
 power supply.
 You can flush the magnetic gaps with distilled water
 and the gaps
 will show in the meg-ohm range then go to zero ohms
 after a short
 period of running, the gathered ions totally short
 cell. During
 the brief runs there is a huge amount of hydrogen gas
 produced 
 which I burned off as it was generated.  Much can be
 said about
 driving the cell with high frequencies as the Myers
 research
 showed.  Our friend up in Canada at George Wiseman,
 Eagle Research
 is running well ahead of the crowd on the production
 of H-H-O.
 Just for giggles!
 
 
 16 October
 1996
 To: Hal
 Fox,  Fusion Facts
 Elemental
 Replication ?
  
       Around mid
 September
 I put together an
 electrolysis cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold
 Fusion Cell
 with the goal of
 exploring the possibilities of making what is
 termed “Pristine
 Water”.   This water
 which will be used by Homeopaths
 will have had all memory or information
 removed.  This is accomplished by
 recombining monatomic
 hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated in a
 properly
 designed cell.  This is
 the ultimate in purity since this is
 water with conditions at the time of original
 creation.  “Holly Water”is a term
 coined by my dear
 friend and fellow researcher Joe Tyls of
 Vancouver, BC.   After several weeks of
 successful operation
 producing water that had all the earmarks of a
 true “pristine
 water” a fellow
 researcher suggested using an alternate
 electrolyte.   A solution was selected
 that contained 77
 colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the
 easiest
 assimilated into the
 body.   With the
 electrolyte changed the
 cell was put back into operation as before with a
 nice
 recombination burn and
 production of the sought after “pristine
water”.                                                                                                                                     
        
     After about an
 hour of
 operation the cell
 went absolutely “nuts” with the temperature
 rapidly climbing
 to boiling point
 and the current out of sight. 
 When the
 cell was opened we found a deep red sludge deposit
 which
 shorted the cell
 plates.   Our first
 thought was that the
 electrolytic action precipitated out the colloidal
 minerals
 which caused the
 deposit found.   The 
 electrolyte was allowed
 to settle out the
 precipitate.   After 
 decanting off,  the clear electrolyte
 was
 returned to the
 cell for another run. Again the cell operated
 normally for
 about an hour with a
 normal recombination burn and recovery of the
 water being
 consumed by the cell
 in the splitting action.   Again
 the cell
 temperature and current mirrored the first
 run. 
 Again the cell contained the same amount of
 sludge
 residue.   This process
 was repeated ten (10) times
 with exactly the same results.  
 All of
 the sludge was carefully dried and weighed on an
 electronic
 scale with a five
 decimal
resolution.                     
 The cell plates and all hardware were
 weighed to
 determine any loss of
 mass that may contribute to the mass gain observed
 in the
 sludge.  Five hundred
 (500) ml of the original
 electrolyte solution used in the cell was vacuum
 distilled to
 determine the
 exact mass of colloidal minerals
 contained. 
 When all factors were considered we came
 out with a
 mass gain of  48 gm
 which cannot be explained by
 conventional
electrolysis.                      
 
     After talking
 to Dr.
 Robert Bass and Hal
 Fox I learned of a patent that has been filed on
 the
 transmutation of elements
 in the cold fusion cell which is the process that
 Dr. John
 Bockris has been so
 active in.   Both Dr.
 Bass and Hal Fox
 stated that what I was observing is not the same
 as the
 transmutation observed
 in the cold fusion cell since I have a overall
 mass gain and
 not a lateral
 movement of elements in the periodic table toward
 lighter
 elements with a
 resulting heat release.  This
 unusual
 cell operation has caused quite a reaction in the
 scientific
 community.  At this
 time I have built a complete new cell
 with every possible factor which could possibly
 explain the
 mass gain
 considered and documented.  The
 ten (10)
 consecutive runs on the new cell will be completed
 soon and a
 report will be
 forthcoming.   What is
 interesting about
 this phenomenon is that when an eleventh run was
 made with the
 original
 electrolyte exactly the same amount of residue was
 recovered
 as in the previous
 ten
runs.                                                                       
 
  
 Since
 the same electrolyte is reused each time with only
 distilled
 water being added
 to replace the volume lost by the removal of the
 solids and
 the water recovered
 by the recombination burn we are hard pressed to
 explain the
 observed
 phenomenon.     The
 electrolyte appears
 stronger in mineral concentration and shows no
 sign of
 
depletion.                                
 
    After conferring
 with
 Joe Tyls we arrived at
 the conclusion that the 77 colloidal minerals
 contained in the
 electrolyte
 provide the atomic templates needed for the
 monatomic hydrogen
 (father of all
 the elements) to replicate selected elements in
 this exotic
 mixture.  If you
 subscribe to the theories of the late
 Walter Russell and his explanation of the octave
 based
 periodic table with
 monatonic hydrogen being what he describes as
 hydrons
 (precursor to hydrogen)
 then it is possible for the replication of
 elements directly
 from energy input
 alone.  This is how all
 matter was
 created in the beginning as described by
 Schappeller in “The
 Physics of the
 Primary State of Matter”.    I
 will keep
 all informed as to our progress and findings in
 this very
 intriguing venture.
  
 Norman
 Wootan
 P.O.
 Box 141049
 Dallas,
 TX 75214
 (214)
 360-0865
  
  
 CC:  Gene Mallove,
 Infinite
 Energy
 CC:  Dr. John
 Bockris, Texas
 A/M
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On 10/28/2018 1:01 AM,
 Jakob Wall
 wall_jakob@...
 [EVGRAY] wrote:
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 Thanks Norman,
 
 
 
 BTW, what is the most effective water split
 device that
 you ever put you hands on?
 
 As HHO researcher for dekades you should be
 able to point
 us directly to the most effective known!
 
 Please be specific about reconstruction of the
 same, since
 we are in public domain it will become public
 knowledge
 and public good. I assume you intend nothing
 else,rigth ?
 
 
--------------------------------------------
 
 On Sat, 10/27/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
 [EVGRAY]
 <[email protected]>
 wrote:
 
 
 
 Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's
 Magnetic
 Battery [3 Attachments]
 
 To: "Bert Pool" <BertPool512@...>,
 "Bob
 Paddock" <bob.paddock@...>,
 "joel mcclain"
 <joel_76670@...>,
 "Jon Gentry"
 <jongen422@...>,
 "Lane Wootan"
 <lanewootan@...>,
 "Mbking42"
 <mbking42@...>,
 "Toby Grotz"
 <wireless2@...>,
 "Phil Rembold"
 <prembold@...>,
 "Angel Alvarez"
 <angel@...>,
 "Fredric Fletcher"
 <ffletcher@...>,
 [email protected]
 
 To understand the unwinding of a thread
 leading
 
 to Magnetic
 
 Generating Hydrogen and this Magnetic Battery,
 we have
 
 to dust off
 
 our  9th grade Chemistry Books!
 
 http://www.rexresearch.com/ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm     
 
 I guess Dr.
 
 Ehrenhaft was the first to propose a Magnetic
 Current.
 
 (Jon
 
 Gentry, Your liquid metal vortex helix).
 
 https://revolution-green.com/can-electrolysis-powered-magnets/      
 
 Ah! Ha!  more on Magnetic Currents!!!
 
 https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446.html
 
 https://www.labmanager.com/white-papers-and-application-notes/2010/05/resistivity-conductivity-measurement-of-purified-water#.W9So9uJRc2w
 
 https://www.askiitians.com/forums/Physical-Chemistry/19/19074/electro-che
 
 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpotential
 
 https://www.quora.com/Why-is-oxygen-molecule-paramagnetic-although-it-does-not-contain-any-unpaired-electron
 
 https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251580541_The_effect_of_magnetic_force_on_hydrogen_production_efficiency_in_water_electrolysis
 
 http://www.physicscentral.com/experiment/physicsathome/electricwhirlpool.cfm
 
 http://www.linux-host.org/energy/bmagpump.htm
 
 Now Jon Gentry you have your liquid metal pump
 so
 
 that you can
 
 make the helix tube Vortex! 
 Ferricpetacarbonyl or
 
 micro fine neo
 
 powder to provide the liquid metal for pump
 
 circuit.
 
 Lots of reading here!     Please think
 about the
 
 ramifications of
 
 a Magnetic Current as proposed by Dr.
 Ehrenhaft!
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Once upon a time, back in the 80s there was the famous Cold Fusion 
Debate of which I was a part.  There was a Cold Fusion Cell built that 
used pure nickel for the anode/cathodes., Called a Double Nickel Cell.  
It happened that Bert Pool & Leslie were going to Canada for a little 
vacation so Bert brought back Canadian quarters which BTW were pure 
nickel.   I built the below cell to measure  anomalous heat output which 
had been reported. I called it the Octa-Nickel Cell and by using pure 
nickel elements, it was a huge hydrogen producer.  I used Potassium 
Carbonate for the electrolyte with a 5VDC power supply @ 10 amps to 
drive the cell and it did deliver the additional heat output over the 
input wattage as measured by the instrumented enclosure. I burned off 
the H-H-O produced with the little stainless nozzle shown and it would 
sublimate tungsten wire in the 10,000 degree pink/blue recombination 
burn.  A true sign of atomic hydrogen.   A real break through occurred 
when I took the experiment to a Vanguard Science Meeting to do a report 
on Cold Fusion.  While transporting the cell some of my electrolyte was 
spilled, so I went to the rest room and got some Dallas tap water to top 
off the 100ml beaker. When placed into operation, the cell sat there and 
produced the atomic hydrogen /oxygen gas but the cell temperature was 
going down below the ambient starting temperature of 78 degrees at 
start.  I was puzzled over how you could be putting in 50 watts of hard 
DC power and the cell temperature was going down.  Demonstration ruined 
BUT, quite revealing since there was something unusual going on. I 
suspected that the nickel electrode cell was transmuting the chlorine 
contaminates in the Dallas tap water.  Thus, I built the Elemental 
Replication Cell which was designed around 316L stainless steel 
anodes/cathodes cause I could not afford to buy sheet nickel stock. See 
: 
http://www.pennstainless.com/stainless-grades/300-series-stainless-steel/316l-stainless-steel/ 
The elemental Replication Phenomenon was verified by other researches in 
the Tesla Tech Group as reported at the annual meetings by Steve 
Elswick.  Nickel has been shown to be a very powerful catalytic agent in 
the combustion of diesel/water mix as done by Caterpillar Corp and the 
auto Industry.  See: http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm   
Bosch Corp. designed ultra high voltage ignition system to burn water 
fuel combination which BTW had the nickel catalyst present.


http://www.detailshere.com/coldfusion.htm

http://www.rexresearch.com/millshyd/millshyd.htm

http://www.rexresearch.com/rossi/rossi.htm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPycGwgFW6k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLbFGAHi9A

https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/secret_projects/project112.htm

https://coldfusionnow.org/sri-replicates-six-different-types-of-cells/

https://phys.org/news/2011-01-italian-scientists-cold-fusion-video.html

On 11/8/2018 6:42 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> I want to prepare some findings on "Catalysts" tomorrow. I need to 
> pull up some interesting info for you all!
>
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>
>     On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 4:52 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]
>     <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>     Hi Norm,
>
>     The catalysts are very interesting.  Iron Cobalt and Nickel all
>     ferromagnetic but at different spins.
>
>     Correct me if I am wrong but based on reading your links a
>     bingofuel type reactor using tungsten electrodes that hopefully
>     would last much longer would likely produce OH rather than H and
>     carbon monoxide, what do you think?
>
>     Also water is strange indeed in that a pyramid or orgone
>     accumulator changes it and these simple changes could make for
>     water that breaks up more easily.  I would love to know what
>     results you demonstrated with the totally juvenile memory free
>     water you put back together from the OH?
>
>     Sorry to hear about your neck fracture, I have a similar issue and
>     it is extremely painful and debilitating at times.
>
>     Mick
>
>
>     On 11/7/2018 4:15 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>>
>>     On 11/7/2018 6:06 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>
>>>     Jakob Wall! & all other researchers on here need to read the
>>>     Whole Story as to why I no longer have a research lab.  Jakob,
>>>     I'm sorry I did not reveal to you the BEST in my opinion of
>>>     methods of producing hydrogen gas for I felt it was a little too
>>>     advanced and difficult for you to experiment with.  See:
>>>     https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en .   There is a
>>>     very long story behind this US Patent and a hell of a lot of
>>>     research. The quest for a very inexpensive method of splitting
>>>     water has been the Holy Grail of cheap energy.   In addition to
>>>     the research papers and links that I gave to you, here are some
>>>     more to dwell on.
>>>
>>>     https://www.researchgate.net/post/At_what_temperature_water_will_decompose_to_Oxygen_and_Hydrogen
>>>
>>>     https://www.quora.com/Does-water-break-down-into-oxygen-and-hydrogen-at-high-temperatures-If-so-then-at-what-temperature
>>>
>>>     https://www.quora.com/How-much-water-can-you-split-into-hydrogen-and-oxygen-using-electrolysis-with-one-kilowatt-hour-of-electricity
>>>
>>>     http://www.redrok.com/hion96a1.htm
>>>
>>>     https://www.nature.com/articles/nplants201741 Please read
>>>     carefully about the play of Nickel in this approach!
>>>
>>>     https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_splitting
>>>
>>>     https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water-gas_shift_reaction I owned
>>>     77 acres of land in Eureka Springs, AR where they still had the
>>>     old water gas generator and gas storage facility.
>>>
>>>     https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decarboxylation
>>>
>>>     https://phys.org/news/2018-02-uncovers-mechanism-water-splitting-catalyst.html
>>>
>>>     https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/new-catalyst-could-split-water-cheaply/
>>>
>>>     https://www.technologyreview.com/s/512996/a-cheaper-way-to-make-hydrogen-from-water/
>>>
>>>     "*SUPER STEAM* - A Tesla conference in Colorado surfaces new
>>>     Super Steam Technology (SST). Leonard Dorsett and friends from
>>>     Texas share strikingly similar views to Aquarian Agency Ltd.
>>>     They have technology which produces steam instantly at up to
>>>     3,000F without a boiler and with 60% savings in fuel over
>>>     traditional boilers. Nitrogen rich, it can put out gasoline
>>>     fires and treat many waste problems. Of major importance to
>>>     Aquarian, this nitrogen-rich steam will help to produce heat and
>>>     Aquastone at considerable savings."
>>>
>>>     For further information on Aquarian Agency Ltd. they can be
>>>     contacted at 38 Weir Rd, Wimbledon, London SW19 SUG, England or
>>>     on Internet at <aquarian ocign.ape.org>. *_SUPER STEAM
>>>     TECHNOLOGY PART 2_*
>>>
>>>     Leonard Dorsett (PO Box 365, Grapevine, TX 76092) demonstrated
>>>     his Super Steam Technology at the 1994 International Tesla
>>>     Symposium. SST is a system for producing steam at any
>>>     temperature or pressure independently and instantly without the
>>>     need for a conventional boiler. It can instantly produce steam
>>>     of any temperature from hot water at 180F to super heated steam
>>>     at over 3000F, while pressures can vary from 1PSI to 3000PSI
>>>     with airflow volumes of 1CFM up to over 2000CFM. The system
>>>     operates on propane, methane, petrol, kerosene, methanol,
>>>     diesel, hydrogen or just about anything else that bums and
>>>     converts virtually 100% of the fuel into usable energy. (Note:
>>>     The person in the picture is Norman Wootan of MRA fame)
>>>
>>>     This all sounds great, but how does it work? The basis of the
>>>     unit is a specially designed open throat chamber with controlled
>>>     air, water and fuel interaction and a high voltage ignition
>>>     resulting in a direct fire process establishing thermal zones.
>>>     This creates a stoichiometric condition resulting in a full
>>>     spectrum of steam product. Now comes the interesting part At the
>>>     increased temperatures of steam, disassociation occurs. (Could
>>>     this be a clue to running cars on water??) The hydrogen and
>>>     oxygen reacts causing an exponential increase of energy
>>>     resulting in super heated steam. A similar superheat process was
>>>     addressed by Tesla in the October 12, 1911 publication of the
>>>     "Engineering News Record".
>>>
>>>     Applications of the SST system include a much more economical
>>>     way of producing electricity as no conventional boiler is
>>>     needed. It will also be an ideal low cost method for heating and
>>>     cooling homes and businesses. Small portable units can be
>>>     developed for home use, such as steam cleaning, and insect and
>>>     ant removal, without the dangers of insecticides. The system can
>>>     also be used for low cost purification of polluted water or
>>>     sewerage and can also convert salt water into drinking water
>>>     both quickly and inexpensively. Other uses are in fire fighting
>>>     applications, ice and snow removal from roads, etc. and
>>>     sterilization and nurturing of soil for agriculture where
>>>     contamination has occurred.
>>>
>>>     I had designed a method of making hydrogen from carbon & water
>>>     vapor using the Tesla Atomic Bombardment method of high
>>>     frequency inside of spherical inclosure like this experiments
>>>     with the carbon button lamp globes.   After working with Leonard
>>>     Dorsett and his Super Steam Project, I chose to use the Water
>>>     Shift Process instead.  A side note is needed here!  The Super
>>>     Steam Process was a result of Professor Brown studying the
>>>     method the German's used for torpedo propulsion from WWI. 
>>>     Acetylene Gas and sea water produced an exothermic reaction
>>>     generating Super Steam. Brown built several reactors and tested
>>>     them in the Tulsa area to break (down hole) the parafin deposits
>>>     to release crude oil.
>>>
>>>     The Chemical equation for the reaction in the US Patent:
>>>     https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en
>>>
>>>     *(6C + 12 H2O= 6CO2 + 24H) *
>>>
>>>     Hydrogen Reactor Development
>>>
>>>     **
>>>
>>>     Original concept design was a high voltage, high frequency
>>>     resonant device that utilized carbon water reaction with the
>>>     feedstock being in the form of graphite rod stock.This unit was
>>>     designed for vehicle application and had too many limitations to
>>>     be used for mass hydrogen generation.This type reactor is very
>>>     effective at hydrogen production since it targets the water
>>>     vapor molecule at MRI frequencies, which breaks the bonding,
>>>     allowing the carbon to latch onto the oxygen atoms leaving the
>>>     hydrogen free. This device was a closed system that used a
>>>     simple CO2/hydrogen separation stage that enabled the hydrogen
>>>     to be feed to an internal combustion engine.
>>>
>>>     **
>>>
>>>     *To allow for a sustained high mass flow of hydrogen gas output,
>>>     reactor design took on a radical change.By incorporating the
>>>     Ranque/Hilsch, Counter Flow Implosion Vortex Principle, and
>>>     continuous high mass flow and gas separation were achieved in
>>>     one stage of operation.Feedstock for this type reactor could be
>>>     any carbon-based material that could be put into a powder
>>>     form.Highest carbon content of the feedstock provides for the
>>>     most efficient hydrogen production with the least undesirable
>>>     output material.*
>>>
>>>     **
>>>
>>>     *Super high temperature operating regime was chosen to be above
>>>     2500 C for the purpose of producing atomic hydrogen in the
>>>     process.The original reactor operated at temperatures that
>>>     easily gasified basic carbon into a plasma state (>10,000 F)
>>>     more easily allowing the production of hydrogen from the
>>>     stoichiometric feed stock ratios.*
>>>
>>>     *
>>>     *
>>>
>>>     *alt*
>>>
>>>     I sold one of my Patents (Sonodiffuser) and paid for my 52 acres
>>>     of land and built a 5200 sq. Ft. lab the do the Prototype
>>>     machining and Proof of Concept testing for GAZPROM, Moscow in
>>>     2005. A $1.2 million investment and they got the rights to the
>>>     process and I got the beautiful Research Lab all paid in full. I
>>>     was a self employed Contractor in Dallas working with HVAC,
>>>     Electrical and Electronics Maintenance so had to commute 170
>>>     miles/day and only had the week ends for my time! Having to mow
>>>     grass and maintane the 52 acres took all my time and when I
>>>     suffered a neck fracture in 2012, had to retire. Liquidated the
>>>     entire facility and sold it off. Moved to Dallas then to South
>>>     Louisiana where I now do a lot of relaxing and fishing!
>>>
>>>     Hector and ALL, I did my time in the Barrel so now I will just
>>>     contribute to the dialog inorder to assist any research you may
>>>     be doing within my area of experitise! BTW! I have been out to
>>>     pasture for a long time now, so no BULL offense!  As Hector
>>>     knows, "It fits"! Lol
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>     alt
>>>
>>>     Yes! Hector, I will wear my Border Patrol Hat when you come
>>>     visit from PR!  Lol
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>     On 11/6/2018 8:52 PM, [email protected]
>>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     By the way ... i can hit mega millions or the power ball  . i
>>>>     never will not have a lab i can work in,  that is worst than
>>>>     death , you have no idea of the technology that had being lost
>>>>     by the greedy fucking bastards fucking my life , they will
>>>>     loose all they have  "soon" because it had being engineered
>>>>     that way by accumulative bad karma, i have another lab they
>>>>     will never reach or be able to intercept or destroy and that
>>>>     will decide their fate ..... they will be fucked hard !
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     (H)
>>>>
>>>>     ---In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>,
>>>>     <mkjekyll@...> <mailto:mkjekyll@...> wrote :
>>>>
>>>>     Cmon Hector,
>>>>
>>>>     Bad taste!
>>>>
>>>>     The man had a more serious lab than anyone else here and his
>>>>     work speaks for itself. Maybe he has gained the fortune he
>>>>     desired through R&D and now shitting in tall cotton or gone
>>>>     fishing reaping the rewards of retirement. Notwithstanding is
>>>>     still kind enough to help point us in the right directions
>>>>     around here.
>>>>
>>>>     "*Funny–I can look back on a life of achievement, on challenges
>>>>     met, competitors bested, obstacles overcome. I’ve accomplished
>>>>     more than most men, and without the use of my legs. What?What
>>>>     makes a man, Mr. Lebowski?"*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     On 11/6/2018 8:04 AM, arkresearch@... <mailto:arkresearch@...>
>>>>     [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>         Dar n ! a Scientist inventor with no lab is like a
>>>>>         breeding bull with no balls !
>>>>>
>>>>>         Balls Cow GIF - Balls Cow WingDangDoodle GIFs
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>         ---In [email protected]
>>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]>, <nwootan@...>
>>>>>         <mailto:nwootan@...> wrote :
>>>>>
>>>>>         Jacob! You asked me a question and I gave you my opinion! 
>>>>>         I'm totally retired at 80 years old and have no lab to
>>>>>         experiment in!  Your quote; I heard once a phrase from a
>>>>>         researcher who said. '' Slow down boy, we get paid for
>>>>>         llooking for solutions, not to find them!''   That
>>>>>         certainly does not apply to me for I have shared all with
>>>>>         the folks on this site.  I find you statement very
>>>>>         interesting: Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24
>>>>>         hours with usual amount of gas looks to me extremely
>>>>>         inefficient. ??????        Care to share where you saw the
>>>>>         power of a permanent magnet being used up!   We all here
>>>>>         on this site share what ever knowledge we have on the
>>>>>         various subjects not seeking any monetary gain in any way!
>>>>>         That is my approach!   I just contribute to the dialog
>>>>>         when I run across something interesting and think it will
>>>>>         assist you guys!   Norm
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>         On 11/3/2018 11:32 PM, Jakob Wall wall_jakob@...
>>>>>         <mailto:wall_jakob@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>             Thanks Norman,
>>>>>>             But i actually asced for ''most efficient way'' to
>>>>>>             split water known to you!
>>>>>>             I realize there are a lot of different technigues to
>>>>>>             do just that.
>>>>>>             And yes i realize you could give me a rather complex
>>>>>>             answer. But instead i hope for a
>>>>>>             rather easy and reproductive answer since i am
>>>>>>             looking forward to solve my enerrgy
>>>>>>             problems i just can not live with the momentary (sad
>>>>>>             and very stupid energy situation)
>>>>>>             I am still not giving up becouse of a couple mistakes
>>>>>>             and misunderstandings.
>>>>>>             If i would be a car dealer and you would ask me for a
>>>>>>             most efficient car available on the market
>>>>>>             i would for sure not recommend a Prius, since there
>>>>>>             are a lot of cars with better fuel economie
>>>>>>             even without being a hybrid and without additional
>>>>>>             cost like batterys,e-motors and a bunch added ECU's
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours
>>>>>>             with usual amount of gas looks to me extremely
>>>>>>             inefficient.
>>>>>>             Also very expensive HHO-Garage products with output
>>>>>>             of 1,6 ltr/min.
>>>>>>             Come on, 6 rusty nails and a old car batery does this
>>>>>>             job, no need to spend 1600 bucks on it.
>>>>>>             I honestly expected solide advise or a honest NO way
>>>>>>             boy, i just talking around.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. ''
>>>>>>             Slow down boy, we get paid for llooking for
>>>>>>             solutions, not to find them!'' That shoked me deeply
>>>>>>             and even if i get 150 years old, i will not forget it.
>>>>>>             Thats true treason on mankind and deciving the
>>>>>>             people. I really hope nobody on this forum only care
>>>>>>             about what he/she will be doing tomorrow.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             Jakob
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             --------------------------------------------
>>>>>>             On Sun, 10/28/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>>>             <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY]
>>>>>>             <[email protected]>
>>>>>>             <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic
>>>>>>             Battery
>>>>>>             To: [email protected]
>>>>>>             <mailto:[email protected]>, "Bert Pool"
>>>>>>             <BertPool512@...> <mailto:BertPool512@...>, "Bob
>>>>>>             Paddock" <bob.paddock@...> <mailto:bob.paddock@...>,
>>>>>>             "joel mcclain" <joel_76670@...>
>>>>>>             <mailto:joel_76670@...>, "Jon Gentry" <jongen422@...>
>>>>>>             <mailto:jongen422@...>, "Mbking42" <mbking42@...>
>>>>>>             <mailto:mbking42@...>, "Toby Grotz" <wireless2@...>
>>>>>>             <mailto:wireless2@...>, "Phil Rembold" <prembold@...>
>>>>>>             <mailto:prembold@...>, "Angel Alvarez" <angel@...>
>>>>>>             <mailto:angel@...>, "Fredric Fletcher"
>>>>>>             <ffletcher@...> <mailto:ffletcher@...>
>>>>>>             Received: Sunday, October 28, 2018, 9:44 AM
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             Jacob!  That would be a rather complex answer
>>>>>>             but here is your
>>>>>>             starting point!
>>>>>>             https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct-thermomagnetic-splitting-of-water-.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             After having been heavily involved in the COLD FUSION
>>>>>>             Research
>>>>>>             back in the 70s and 80s I quickly settled o0n the best
>>>>>>             catalyst in
>>>>>>             electrolytic cells which is pure nickel. I still have
>>>>>>             the cell
>>>>>>             used in the Elemental Replication experiments.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm
>>>>>>             The hidden
>>>>>>             part of this research is the use of a nickel component
>>>>>>             in the
>>>>>>             combustion chamber. Bosch developed 90,000V ignition
>>>>>>             systems to
>>>>>>             enable water injection in gas engine which high
>>>>>>             lighted the
>>>>>>             Graneau HV decomposition of water via HVDC
>>>>>>             discharge!
>>>>>>             My magnetic Battery when run as an electrolytic cell
>>>>>>             to produce
>>>>>>             hydrogen does produce a huge amount of hydrogen gas as
>>>>>>             shown by
>>>>>>             the Dr. Ehrenhaft document.  I would tell you to
>>>>>>             pursue the super
>>>>>>             high Tesla magnetic flux and nickel electrodes in an
>>>>>>             electrolytic
>>>>>>             cell.  The major obstacle to be overcome is the rapid
>>>>>>             collection
>>>>>>             of ions from solution by the 1.3 Tesla flux across a
>>>>>>             .020"
>>>>>>             mechanical gap which quickly takes the cell into a
>>>>>>             super-conduction mode which takes out the driving DC
>>>>>>             power supply.
>>>>>>             You can flush the magnetic gaps with distilled water
>>>>>>             and the gaps
>>>>>>             will show in the meg-ohm range then go to zero ohms
>>>>>>             after a short
>>>>>>             period of running, the gathered ions totally short
>>>>>>             cell. During
>>>>>>             the brief runs there is a huge amount of hydrogen gas
>>>>>>             produced
>>>>>>             which I burned off as it was generated. Much can be
>>>>>>             said about
>>>>>>             driving the cell with high frequencies as the Myers
>>>>>>             research
>>>>>>             showed.  Our friend up in Canada at George Wiseman,
>>>>>>             Eagle Research
>>>>>>             is running well ahead of the crowd on the production
>>>>>>             of H-H-O.
>>>>>>             Just for giggles!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             16 October
>>>>>>             1996
>>>>>>             To: Hal
>>>>>>             Fox,  Fusion Facts
>>>>>>             Elemental
>>>>>>             Replication ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                   Around mid
>>>>>>             September
>>>>>>             I put together an
>>>>>>             electrolysis cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold
>>>>>>             Fusion Cell
>>>>>>             with the goal of
>>>>>>             exploring the possibilities of making what is
>>>>>>             termed “Pristine
>>>>>>             Water”.   This water
>>>>>>             which will be used by Homeopaths
>>>>>>             will have had all memory or information
>>>>>>             removed.  This is accomplished by
>>>>>>             recombining monatomic
>>>>>>             hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated in a
>>>>>>             properly
>>>>>>             designed cell.  This is
>>>>>>             the ultimate in purity since this is
>>>>>>             water with conditions at the time of original
>>>>>>             creation. “Holly Water”is a term
>>>>>>             coined by my dear
>>>>>>             friend and fellow researcher Joe Tyls of
>>>>>>             Vancouver, BC.   After several weeks of
>>>>>>             successful operation
>>>>>>             producing water that had all the earmarks of a
>>>>>>             true “pristine
>>>>>>             water” a fellow
>>>>>>             researcher suggested using an alternate
>>>>>>             electrolyte. A solution was selected
>>>>>>             that contained 77
>>>>>>             colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the
>>>>>>             easiest
>>>>>>             assimilated into the
>>>>>>             body.   With the
>>>>>>             electrolyte changed the
>>>>>>             cell was put back into operation as before with a
>>>>>>             nice
>>>>>>             recombination burn and
>>>>>>             production of the sought after “pristine
>>>>>>             water”.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                 After about an
>>>>>>             hour of
>>>>>>             operation the cell
>>>>>>             went absolutely “nuts” with the temperature
>>>>>>             rapidly climbing
>>>>>>             to boiling point
>>>>>>             and the current out of sight.
>>>>>>             When the
>>>>>>             cell was opened we found a deep red sludge deposit
>>>>>>             which
>>>>>>             shorted the cell
>>>>>>             plates.   Our first
>>>>>>             thought was that the
>>>>>>             electrolytic action precipitated out the colloidal
>>>>>>             minerals
>>>>>>             which caused the
>>>>>>             deposit found.   The
>>>>>>             electrolyte was allowed
>>>>>>             to settle out the
>>>>>>             precipitate. After
>>>>>>             decanting off,  the clear electrolyte
>>>>>>             was
>>>>>>             returned to the
>>>>>>             cell for another run. Again the cell operated
>>>>>>             normally for
>>>>>>             about an hour with a
>>>>>>             normal recombination burn and recovery of the
>>>>>>             water being
>>>>>>             consumed by the cell
>>>>>>             in the splitting action. Again
>>>>>>             the cell
>>>>>>             temperature and current mirrored the first
>>>>>>             run.
>>>>>>             Again the cell contained the same amount of
>>>>>>             sludge
>>>>>>             residue. This process
>>>>>>             was repeated ten (10) times
>>>>>>             with exactly the same results.
>>>>>>             All of
>>>>>>             the sludge was carefully dried and weighed on an
>>>>>>             electronic
>>>>>>             scale with a five
>>>>>>             decimal
>>>>>>             resolution.
>>>>>>             The cell plates and all hardware were
>>>>>>             weighed to
>>>>>>             determine any loss of
>>>>>>             mass that may contribute to the mass gain observed
>>>>>>             in the
>>>>>>             sludge.  Five hundred
>>>>>>             (500) ml of the original
>>>>>>             electrolyte solution used in the cell was vacuum
>>>>>>             distilled to
>>>>>>             determine the
>>>>>>             exact mass of colloidal minerals
>>>>>>             contained.
>>>>>>             When all factors were considered we came
>>>>>>             out with a
>>>>>>             mass gain of 48 gm
>>>>>>             which cannot be explained by
>>>>>>             conventional
>>>>>>             electrolysis.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                 After talking
>>>>>>             to Dr.
>>>>>>             Robert Bass and Hal
>>>>>>             Fox I learned of a patent that has been filed on
>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>             transmutation of elements
>>>>>>             in the cold fusion cell which is the process that
>>>>>>             Dr. John
>>>>>>             Bockris has been so
>>>>>>             active in. Both Dr.
>>>>>>             Bass and Hal Fox
>>>>>>             stated that what I was observing is not the same
>>>>>>             as the
>>>>>>             transmutation observed
>>>>>>             in the cold fusion cell since I have a overall
>>>>>>             mass gain and
>>>>>>             not a lateral
>>>>>>             movement of elements in the periodic table toward
>>>>>>             lighter
>>>>>>             elements with a
>>>>>>             resulting heat release.  This
>>>>>>             unusual
>>>>>>             cell operation has caused quite a reaction in the
>>>>>>             scientific
>>>>>>             community.  At this
>>>>>>             time I have built a complete new cell
>>>>>>             with every possible factor which could possibly
>>>>>>             explain the
>>>>>>             mass gain
>>>>>>             considered and documented. The
>>>>>>             ten (10)
>>>>>>             consecutive runs on the new cell will be completed
>>>>>>             soon and a
>>>>>>             report will be
>>>>>>             forthcoming. What is
>>>>>>             interesting about
>>>>>>             this phenomenon is that when an eleventh run was
>>>>>>             made with the
>>>>>>             original
>>>>>>             electrolyte exactly the same amount of residue was
>>>>>>             recovered
>>>>>>             as in the previous
>>>>>>             ten
>>>>>>             runs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             Since
>>>>>>             the same electrolyte is reused each time with only
>>>>>>             distilled
>>>>>>             water being added
>>>>>>             to replace the volume lost by the removal of the
>>>>>>             solids and
>>>>>>             the water recovered
>>>>>>             by the recombination burn we are hard pressed to
>>>>>>             explain the
>>>>>>             observed
>>>>>>             phenomenon.     The
>>>>>>             electrolyte appears
>>>>>>             stronger in mineral concentration and shows no
>>>>>>             sign of
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             depletion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                After conferring
>>>>>>             with
>>>>>>             Joe Tyls we arrived at
>>>>>>             the conclusion that the 77 colloidal minerals
>>>>>>             contained in the
>>>>>>             electrolyte
>>>>>>             provide the atomic templates needed for the
>>>>>>             monatomic hydrogen
>>>>>>             (father of all
>>>>>>             the elements) to replicate selected elements in
>>>>>>             this exotic
>>>>>>             mixture.  If you
>>>>>>             subscribe to the theories of the late
>>>>>>             Walter Russell and his explanation of the octave
>>>>>>             based
>>>>>>             periodic table with
>>>>>>             monatonic hydrogen being what he describes as
>>>>>>             hydrons
>>>>>>             (precursor to hydrogen)
>>>>>>             then it is possible for the replication of
>>>>>>             elements directly
>>>>>>             from energy input
>>>>>>             alone.  This is how all
>>>>>>             matter was
>>>>>>             created in the beginning as described by
>>>>>>             Schappeller in “The
>>>>>>             Physics of the
>>>>>>             Primary State of Matter”. I
>>>>>>             will keep
>>>>>>             all informed as to our progress and findings in
>>>>>>             this very
>>>>>>             intriguing venture.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             Norman
>>>>>>             Wootan
>>>>>>             P.O.
>>>>>>             Box 141049
>>>>>>             Dallas,
>>>>>>             TX 75214
>>>>>>             (214)
>>>>>>             360-0865
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             CC:  Gene Mallove,
>>>>>>             Infinite
>>>>>>             Energy
>>>>>>             CC:  Dr. John
>>>>>>             Bockris, Texas
>>>>>>             A/M
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             On 10/28/2018 1:01 AM,
>>>>>>             Jakob Wall
>>>>>>             wall_jakob@... <mailto:wall_jakob@...>
>>>>>>             [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             Thanks Norman,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             BTW, what is the most effective water split
>>>>>>             device that
>>>>>>             you ever put you hands on?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             As HHO researcher for dekades you should be
>>>>>>             able to point
>>>>>>             us directly to the most effective known!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             Please be specific about reconstruction of the
>>>>>>             same, since
>>>>>>             we are in public domain it will become public
>>>>>>             knowledge
>>>>>>             and public good. I assume you intend nothing
>>>>>>             else,rigth ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             --------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             On Sat, 10/27/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>>>             <mailto:nwootan@...>
>>>>>>             [EVGRAY]
>>>>>>             <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>             wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's
>>>>>>             Magnetic
>>>>>>             Battery [3 Attachments]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             To: "Bert Pool" <BertPool512@...>
>>>>>>             <mailto:BertPool512@...>,
>>>>>>             "Bob
>>>>>>             Paddock" <bob.paddock@...> <mailto:bob.paddock@...>,
>>>>>>             "joel mcclain"
>>>>>>             <joel_76670@...> <mailto:joel_76670@...>,
>>>>>>             "Jon Gentry"
>>>>>>             <jongen422@...> <mailto:jongen422@...>,
>>>>>>             "Lane Wootan"
>>>>>>             <lanewootan@...> <mailto:lanewootan@...>,
>>>>>>             "Mbking42"
>>>>>>             <mbking42@...> <mailto:mbking42@...>,
>>>>>>             "Toby Grotz"
>>>>>>             <wireless2@...> <mailto:wireless2@...>,
>>>>>>             "Phil Rembold"
>>>>>>             <prembold@...> <mailto:prembold@...>,
>>>>>>             "Angel Alvarez"
>>>>>>             <angel@...> <mailto:angel@...>,
>>>>>>             "Fredric Fletcher"
>>>>>>             <ffletcher@...> <mailto:ffletcher@...>,
>>>>>>             [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             To understand the unwinding of a thread
>>>>>>             leading
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             to Magnetic
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             Generating Hydrogen and this Magnetic Battery,
>>>>>>             we have
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             to dust off
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             our  9th grade Chemistry Books!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             http://www.rexresearch.com/ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             I guess Dr.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             Ehrenhaft was the first to propose a Magnetic
>>>>>>             Current.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             (Jon
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             Gentry, Your liquid metal vortex helix).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             https://revolution-green.com/can-electrolysis-powered-magnets/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             Ah! Ha!  more on Magnetic Currents!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             https://www.labmanager.com/white-papers-and-application-notes/2010/05/resistivity-conductivity-measurement-of-purified-water#.W9So9uJRc2w
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             https://www.askiitians.com/forums/Physical-Chemistry/19/19074/electro-che
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpotential
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             https://www.quora.com/Why-is-oxygen-molecule-paramagnetic-although-it-does-not-contain-any-unpaired-electron
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251580541_The_effect_of_magnetic_force_on_hydrogen_production_efficiency_in_water_electrolysis
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             http://www.physicscentral.com/experiment/physicsathome/electricwhirlpool.cfm
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             http://www.linux-host.org/energy/bmagpump.htm
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             Now Jon Gentry you have your liquid metal pump
>>>>>>             so
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             that you can
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             make the helix tube Vortex!
>>>>>>             Ferricpetacarbonyl or
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             micro fine neo
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             powder to provide the liquid metal for pump
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             circuit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             Lots of reading here! Please think
>>>>>>             about the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             ramifications of
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             a Magnetic Current as proposed by Dr.
>>>>>>             Ehrenhaft!
>>>>>>
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>

Norm,

That is a strange looking cell it looks like it's upside down and maybe
made from a water separator for a big diesel engine.  I hope you show us
your SS elemental replication cell in this series. Interesting that
little cell produced enough oh to make a torch with four quarters on
each side of one cell!

What were the screws nuts and spacers made from?
What was the power supply one of those brass looking computer switching
supply bricks?

Yes I was surprised how much retail Nickel cost when I was looking for
materials found the cheapest source to be electroplating ingots.

Rosi technology seems to be in perpetual test stages like
blacklightpower and the rest, all on the soft shoe suppression strategy,
feed em some money and put it into testing proof of concept forever.

On 11/9/2018 4:22 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> Once upon a time, back in the 80s there was the famous Cold Fusion
> Debate of which I was a part.  There was a Cold Fusion Cell built that
> used pure nickel for the anode/cathodes., Called a Double Nickel
> Cell.  It happened that Bert Pool & Leslie were going to Canada for a
> little vacation so Bert brought back Canadian quarters which BTW were
> pure nickel.   I built the below cell to measure  anomalous heat
> output which had been reported.   I called it the Octa-Nickel Cell and
> by using pure nickel elements, it was a huge hydrogen producer.  I
> used Potassium Carbonate for the electrolyte with a 5VDC power supply
> @ 10 amps to drive the cell and it did deliver the additional heat
> output over the input wattage as measured by the instrumented
> enclosure. I burned off the H-H-O produced with the little stainless
> nozzle shown and it would sublimate tungsten wire in the 10,000 degree
> pink/blue recombination burn.  A true sign of atomic hydrogen.   A
> real break through occurred when I took the experiment to a Vanguard
> Science Meeting to do a report on Cold Fusion.  While transporting the
> cell some of my electrolyte was spilled, so I went to the rest room
> and got some Dallas tap water to top off the 100ml beaker. When placed
> into operation, the cell sat there and produced the atomic hydrogen
> /oxygen gas but the cell temperature was going down below the ambient
> starting temperature of 78 degrees at start.  I was puzzled over how
> you could be putting in 50 watts of hard DC power and the cell
> temperature was going down.  Demonstration ruined BUT, quite revealing
> since there was something unusual going on. I suspected that the
> nickel electrode cell was transmuting the chlorine contaminates in the
> Dallas tap water.  Thus, I built the Elemental Replication Cell which
> was designed around 316L stainless steel anodes/cathodes cause I could
> not afford to buy sheet nickel stock. See :
> http://www.pennstainless.com/stainless-grades/300-series-stainless-steel/316l-stainless-steel/   
> The elemental Replication Phenomenon was verified by other researches
> in the Tesla Tech Group as reported at the annual meetings by Steve
> Elswick.  Nickel has been shown to be a very powerful catalytic agent
> in the combustion of diesel/water mix as done by Caterpillar Corp and
> the auto Industry.  See:
> http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm   Bosch Corp.
> designed ultra high voltage ignition system to burn water fuel
> combination which BTW had the nickel catalyst present.
>
>
> http://www.detailshere.com/coldfusion.htm
>
> http://www.rexresearch.com/millshyd/millshyd.htm
>
> http://www.rexresearch.com/rossi/rossi.htm
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPycGwgFW6k
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLbFGAHi9A
>
> https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/secret_projects/project112.htm
>
> https://coldfusionnow.org/sri-replicates-six-different-types-of-cells/
>
> https://phys.org/news/2011-01-italian-scientists-cold-fusion-video.html
>
> On 11/8/2018 6:42 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>  
>>
>> I want to prepare some findings on "Catalysts" tomorrow. I need to
>> pull up some interesting info for you all!
>>
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>>
>>     On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 4:52 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]
>>     <[email protected]> wrote:
>>      
>>
>>     Hi Norm,
>>
>>     The catalysts are very interesting.  Iron Cobalt and Nickel all
>>     ferromagnetic but at different spins.
>>
>>     Correct me if I am wrong but based on reading your links a
>>     bingofuel type reactor using tungsten electrodes that hopefully
>>     would last much longer would likely produce OH rather than H and
>>     carbon monoxide, what do you think?
>>
>>     Also water is strange indeed in that a pyramid or orgone
>>     accumulator changes it and these simple changes could make for
>>     water that breaks up more easily.  I would love to know what
>>     results you demonstrated with the totally juvenile memory free
>>     water you put back together from the OH? 
>>
>>     Sorry to hear about your neck fracture, I have a similar issue
>>     and it is extremely painful and debilitating at times.
>>
>>     Mick
>>
>>
>>     On 11/7/2018 4:15 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected]
>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>      
>>>
>>>
>>>     On 11/7/2018 6:06 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     Jakob Wall! & all other researchers on here need to read the
>>>>     Whole Story as to why I no longer have a research lab.  Jakob,
>>>>     I'm sorry I did not reveal to you the BEST in my opinion of
>>>>     methods of producing hydrogen gas for I felt it was a little
>>>>     too advanced and difficult for you to experiment with.  See:
>>>>     https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en .   There is a
>>>>     very long story behind this US Patent and a hell of a lot of
>>>>     research. The quest for a very inexpensive method of splitting
>>>>     water has been the Holy Grail of  cheap energy.   In addition
>>>>     to the research papers and links that I gave to you, here are
>>>>     some more to dwell on.
>>>>
>>>>     https://www.researchgate.net/post/At_what_temperature_water_will_decompose_to_Oxygen_and_Hydrogen
>>>>
>>>>     https://www.quora.com/Does-water-break-down-into-oxygen-and-hydrogen-at-high-temperatures-If-so-then-at-what-temperature
>>>>
>>>>     https://www.quora.com/How-much-water-can-you-split-into-hydrogen-and-oxygen-using-electrolysis-with-one-kilowatt-hour-of-electricity
>>>>
>>>>     http://www.redrok.com/hion96a1.htm
>>>>
>>>>     https://www.nature.com/articles/nplants201741   Please read
>>>>     carefully about the play of Nickel in this approach!
>>>>
>>>>     https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_splitting
>>>>
>>>>     https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water-gas_shift_reaction    I
>>>>     owned 77 acres of land in Eureka Springs, AR where they still
>>>>     had the old water gas generator and gas storage facility.
>>>>
>>>>     https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decarboxylation
>>>>
>>>>     https://phys.org/news/2018-02-uncovers-mechanism-water-splitting-catalyst.html
>>>>
>>>>     https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/new-catalyst-could-split-water-cheaply/
>>>>
>>>>     https://www.technologyreview.com/s/512996/a-cheaper-way-to-make-hydrogen-from-water/
>>>>
>>>>     "*SUPER STEAM* - A Tesla conference in Colorado surfaces new
>>>>     Super Steam Technology (SST). Leonard Dorsett and friends from
>>>>     Texas share strikingly similar views to Aquarian Agency Ltd.
>>>>     They have technology which produces steam instantly at up to
>>>>     3,000F without a boiler and with 60% savings in fuel over
>>>>     traditional boilers. Nitrogen rich, it can put out gasoline
>>>>     fires and treat many waste problems. Of major importance to
>>>>     Aquarian, this nitrogen-rich steam will help to produce heat
>>>>     and Aquastone at considerable savings."
>>>>
>>>>     For further information on Aquarian Agency Ltd. they can be
>>>>     contacted at 38 Weir Rd, Wimbledon, London SW19 SUG, England or
>>>>     on Internet at <aquarian ocign.ape.org>. *_SUPER STEAM
>>>>     TECHNOLOGY PART 2_*
>>>>
>>>>     Leonard Dorsett (PO Box 365, Grapevine, TX 76092) demonstrated
>>>>     his Super Steam Technology at the 1994 International Tesla
>>>>     Symposium. SST is a system for producing steam at any
>>>>     temperature or pressure independently and instantly without the
>>>>     need for a conventional boiler. It can instantly produce steam
>>>>     of any temperature from hot water at 180F to super heated steam
>>>>     at over 3000F, while pressures can vary from 1PSI to 3000PSI
>>>>     with airflow volumes of 1CFM up to over 2000CFM. The system
>>>>     operates on propane, methane, petrol, kerosene, methanol,
>>>>     diesel, hydrogen or just about anything else that bums and
>>>>     converts virtually 100% of the fuel into usable energy. (Note:
>>>>     The person in the picture is Norman Wootan of MRA fame)
>>>>
>>>>     This all sounds great, but how does it work? The basis of the
>>>>     unit is a specially designed open throat chamber with
>>>>     controlled air, water and fuel interaction and a high voltage
>>>>     ignition resulting in a direct fire process establishing
>>>>     thermal zones. This creates a stoichiometric condition
>>>>     resulting in a full spectrum of steam product. Now comes the
>>>>     interesting part At the increased temperatures of steam,
>>>>     disassociation occurs. (Could this be a clue to running cars on
>>>>     water??) The hydrogen and oxygen reacts causing an exponential
>>>>     increase of energy resulting in super heated steam. A similar
>>>>     superheat process was addressed by Tesla in the October 12,
>>>>     1911 publication of the "Engineering News Record".
>>>>
>>>>     Applications of the SST system include a much more economical
>>>>     way of producing electricity as no conventional boiler is
>>>>     needed. It will also be an ideal low cost method for heating
>>>>     and cooling homes and businesses. Small portable units can be
>>>>     developed for home use, such as steam cleaning, and insect and
>>>>     ant removal, without the dangers of insecticides. The system
>>>>     can also be used for low cost purification of polluted water or
>>>>     sewerage and can also convert salt water into drinking water
>>>>     both quickly and inexpensively. Other uses are in fire fighting
>>>>     applications, ice and snow removal from roads, etc. and
>>>>     sterilization and nurturing of soil for agriculture where
>>>>     contamination has occurred.
>>>>
>>>>     I had designed a method of making hydrogen from carbon & water
>>>>     vapor using the Tesla Atomic Bombardment method of high
>>>>     frequency inside of spherical inclosure like this experiments
>>>>     with the carbon button lamp globes.   After working with
>>>>     Leonard Dorsett and his Super Steam Project, I chose to use the
>>>>     Water Shift Process instead.  A side note is needed here!  The
>>>>     Super Steam Process was a result of Professor Brown studying
>>>>     the method the German's used for torpedo propulsion from WWI. 
>>>>     Acetylene Gas and sea water produced an exothermic reaction
>>>>     generating Super Steam. Brown built several reactors and tested
>>>>     them in the Tulsa area to break (down hole) the parafin
>>>>     deposits to release crude oil.
>>>>
>>>>     The Chemical equation for the reaction in the US Patent:
>>>>     https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en
>>>>
>>>>     *(6C + 12 H2O  = 6CO2 + 24H) *
>>>>
>>>>     Hydrogen Reactor Development
>>>>
>>>>     * *
>>>>
>>>>     Original concept design was a high voltage, high frequency
>>>>     resonant device that utilized carbon water reaction with the
>>>>     feedstock being in the form of graphite rod stock.  This unit
>>>>     was designed for vehicle application and had too many
>>>>     limitations to be used for mass hydrogen generation.  This type
>>>>     reactor is very effective at hydrogen production since it
>>>>     targets the water vapor molecule at MRI frequencies, which
>>>>     breaks the bonding, allowing the carbon to latch onto the
>>>>     oxygen atoms leaving the hydrogen free. This device was a
>>>>     closed system that used a simple CO2/hydrogen separation stage
>>>>     that enabled the hydrogen to be feed to an internal combustion
>>>>     engine.
>>>>
>>>>     * *
>>>>
>>>>     *To allow for a sustained high mass flow of hydrogen gas
>>>>     output, reactor design took on a radical change.  By
>>>>     incorporating the Ranque/Hilsch, Counter Flow Implosion Vortex
>>>>     Principle, and continuous high mass flow and gas separation
>>>>     were achieved in one stage of operation.  Feedstock for this
>>>>     type reactor could be any carbon-based material that could be
>>>>     put into a powder form.  Highest carbon content of the
>>>>     feedstock provides for the most efficient hydrogen production
>>>>     with the least undesirable output material.*
>>>>
>>>>     * *
>>>>
>>>>     *Super high temperature operating regime was chosen to be above
>>>>     2500 C for the purpose of producing atomic hydrogen in the
>>>>     process.  The original reactor operated at temperatures that
>>>>     easily gasified basic carbon into a plasma state (>10,000 F)
>>>>     more easily allowing the production of hydrogen from the
>>>>     stoichiometric feed stock ratios.*
>>>>
>>>>     *
>>>>     *
>>>>
>>>>     *alt*
>>>>
>>>>     I sold one of my Patents (Sonodiffuser) and paid for my 52
>>>>     acres of land and built a 5200 sq. Ft. lab the do the Prototype
>>>>     machining and Proof of Concept testing for GAZPROM, Moscow in
>>>>     2005. A $1.2 million investment and they got the rights to the
>>>>     process and I got the beautiful Research Lab all paid in full.
>>>>     I was a self employed Contractor in Dallas working with HVAC,
>>>>     Electrical and Electronics Maintenance so had to commute 170
>>>>     miles/day and only had the week ends for my time! Having to mow
>>>>     grass and maintane the 52 acres took all my time and when I
>>>>     suffered a neck fracture in 2012, had to retire. Liquidated the
>>>>     entire facility and sold it off. Moved to Dallas then to South
>>>>     Louisiana where I now do a lot of relaxing and fishing!
>>>>
>>>>     Hector and ALL, I did my time in the Barrel so now I will just
>>>>     contribute to the dialog inorder to assist any research you may
>>>>     be doing within my area of experitise!     BTW! I have been out
>>>>     to pasture for a long time now, so no BULL offense!  As Hector
>>>>     knows, "It fits"! Lol
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     alt
>>>>
>>>>     Yes! Hector, I will wear my Border Patrol Hat when you come
>>>>     visit from PR!  Lol
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     On 11/6/2018 8:52 PM, [email protected]
>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>      
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     By the way ... i can hit mega millions or the power ball  . i
>>>>>     never will not have a lab i can work in,  that is worst than
>>>>>     death , you have no idea of the technology that had being lost
>>>>>     by the greedy fucking bastards fucking my life , they will
>>>>>     loose all they have  "soon" because it had being engineered
>>>>>     that way by accumulative bad karma, i have another lab they
>>>>>     will never reach or be able to intercept or destroy and that
>>>>>     will decide their fate ..... they will be fucked hard !
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     (H)   
>>>>>
>>>>>     ---In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>,
>>>>>     <mkjekyll@...> <mailto:mkjekyll@...> wrote :
>>>>>
>>>>>     Cmon Hector,
>>>>>
>>>>>     Bad taste!
>>>>>
>>>>>     The man had a more serious lab than anyone else here and his
>>>>>     work speaks for itself.  Maybe he has gained the fortune he
>>>>>     desired through R&D and now shitting in tall cotton or gone
>>>>>     fishing reaping the rewards of retirement. Notwithstanding is
>>>>>     still kind enough to help point us in the right directions
>>>>>     around here.
>>>>>
>>>>>     "*Funny–I can look back on a life of achievement, on
>>>>>     challenges met, competitors bested, obstacles overcome. I’ve
>>>>>     accomplished more than most men, and without the use of my
>>>>>     legs. What?What makes a man, Mr. Lebowski?"*
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     On 11/6/2018 8:04 AM, arkresearch@... <mailto:arkresearch@...>
>>>>>     [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>          
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Dar n ! a Scientist inventor with no lab is like a
>>>>>>         breeding bull with no balls !
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Balls Cow GIF - Balls Cow WingDangDoodle GIFs
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         ---In [email protected]
>>>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]>, <nwootan@...>
>>>>>>         <mailto:nwootan@...> wrote :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Jacob! You asked me a question and I gave you my
>>>>>>         opinion!  I'm totally retired at 80 years old and have no
>>>>>>         lab to experiment in!  Your quote; I heard once a phrase
>>>>>>         from a researcher who said. '' Slow down boy, we get paid
>>>>>>         for llooking for solutions, not to find them!''   That
>>>>>>         certainly does not apply to me for I have shared all with
>>>>>>         the folks on this site.  I find you statement very
>>>>>>         interesting:  Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24
>>>>>>         hours with usual amount of gas looks to me extremely
>>>>>>         inefficient.   ??????        Care to share where you saw
>>>>>>         the power of a permanent magnet being used up!   We all
>>>>>>         here on this site share what ever knowledge we have on
>>>>>>         the various subjects not seeking any monetary gain in any
>>>>>>         way! That is my approach!   I just contribute to the
>>>>>>         dialog when I run across something interesting and think
>>>>>>         it will assist you guys!   Norm
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         On 11/3/2018 11:32 PM, Jakob Wall wall_jakob@...
>>>>>>         <mailto:wall_jakob@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             Thanks Norman,
>>>>>>>             But i actually asced for ''most efficient way'' to
>>>>>>>             split water known to you!
>>>>>>>             I realize there are a lot of different technigues to
>>>>>>>             do just that.
>>>>>>>             And yes i realize you could give me a rather complex
>>>>>>>             answer. But instead i hope for a
>>>>>>>             rather easy and reproductive answer since i am
>>>>>>>             looking forward to solve my enerrgy
>>>>>>>             problems i just can not live with the momentary (sad
>>>>>>>             and very stupid energy situation)
>>>>>>>             I am still not giving up becouse of a couple
>>>>>>>             mistakes and misunderstandings.
>>>>>>>             If i would be a car dealer and you would ask me for
>>>>>>>             a most efficient car available on the market
>>>>>>>             i would for sure not recommend a Prius, since there
>>>>>>>             are a lot of cars with better fuel economie
>>>>>>>             even without being a hybrid and without additional
>>>>>>>             cost like batterys,e-motors and a bunch added ECU's
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours
>>>>>>>             with usual amount of gas looks to me extremely
>>>>>>>             inefficient.
>>>>>>>             Also very expensive HHO-Garage products with output
>>>>>>>             of 1,6 ltr/min.
>>>>>>>             Come on, 6 rusty nails and a old car batery does
>>>>>>>             this job, no need to spend 1600 bucks on it.
>>>>>>>             I honestly expected solide advise or a honest NO way
>>>>>>>             boy, i just talking around.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. ''
>>>>>>>             Slow down boy, we get paid for llooking for
>>>>>>>             solutions, not to find them!'' That shoked me deeply
>>>>>>>             and even if i get 150 years old, i will not forget it.
>>>>>>>             Thats true treason on mankind and deciving the
>>>>>>>             people. I really hope nobody on this forum only care
>>>>>>>             about what he/she will be doing tomorrow.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             Jakob
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             --------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>             On Sun, 10/28/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>>>>             <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY]
>>>>>>>             <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>             <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic
>>>>>>>             Battery
>>>>>>>             To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>             <mailto:[email protected]>, "Bert Pool"
>>>>>>>             <BertPool512@...> <mailto:BertPool512@...>, "Bob
>>>>>>>             Paddock" <bob.paddock@...> <mailto:bob.paddock@...>,
>>>>>>>             "joel mcclain" <joel_76670@...>
>>>>>>>             <mailto:joel_76670@...>, "Jon Gentry"
>>>>>>>             <jongen422@...> <mailto:jongen422@...>, "Mbking42"
>>>>>>>             <mbking42@...> <mailto:mbking42@...>, "Toby Grotz"
>>>>>>>             <wireless2@...> <mailto:wireless2@...>, "Phil
>>>>>>>             Rembold" <prembold@...> <mailto:prembold@...>,
>>>>>>>             "Angel Alvarez" <angel@...> <mailto:angel@...>,
>>>>>>>             "Fredric Fletcher" <ffletcher@...>
>>>>>>>             <mailto:ffletcher@...>
>>>>>>>             Received: Sunday, October 28, 2018, 9:44 AM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             Jacob!  That would be a rather complex answer
>>>>>>>             but here is your
>>>>>>>             starting point!
>>>>>>>             https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct-thermomagnetic-splitting-of-water-.html   
>>>>>>>             After having been heavily involved in the COLD FUSION
>>>>>>>             Research
>>>>>>>             back in the 70s and 80s I quickly settled o0n the best
>>>>>>>             catalyst in
>>>>>>>             electrolytic cells which is pure nickel. I still have
>>>>>>>             the cell
>>>>>>>             used in the Elemental Replication experiments.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm    
>>>>>>>             The hidden
>>>>>>>             part of this research is the use of a nickel component
>>>>>>>             in the
>>>>>>>             combustion chamber. Bosch developed 90,000V ignition
>>>>>>>             systems to
>>>>>>>             enable water injection in gas engine which high
>>>>>>>             lighted the
>>>>>>>             Graneau HV decomposition of water via HVDC
>>>>>>>             discharge!
>>>>>>>             My magnetic Battery when run as an electrolytic cell
>>>>>>>             to produce
>>>>>>>             hydrogen does produce a huge amount of hydrogen gas as
>>>>>>>             shown by
>>>>>>>             the Dr. Ehrenhaft document.  I would tell you to
>>>>>>>             pursue the super
>>>>>>>             high Tesla magnetic flux and nickel electrodes in an
>>>>>>>             electrolytic
>>>>>>>             cell.  The major obstacle to be overcome is the rapid
>>>>>>>             collection
>>>>>>>             of ions from solution by the 1.3 Tesla flux across a
>>>>>>>             .020"
>>>>>>>             mechanical gap which quickly takes the cell into a
>>>>>>>             super-conduction mode which takes out the driving DC
>>>>>>>             power supply.
>>>>>>>             You can flush the magnetic gaps with distilled water
>>>>>>>             and the gaps
>>>>>>>             will show in the meg-ohm range then go to zero ohms
>>>>>>>             after a short
>>>>>>>             period of running, the gathered ions totally short
>>>>>>>             cell. During
>>>>>>>             the brief runs there is a huge amount of hydrogen gas
>>>>>>>             produced 
>>>>>>>             which I burned off as it was generated.  Much can be
>>>>>>>             said about
>>>>>>>             driving the cell with high frequencies as the Myers
>>>>>>>             research
>>>>>>>             showed.  Our friend up in Canada at George Wiseman,
>>>>>>>             Eagle Research
>>>>>>>             is running well ahead of the crowd on the production
>>>>>>>             of H-H-O.
>>>>>>>             Just for giggles!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             16 October
>>>>>>>             1996
>>>>>>>             To: Hal
>>>>>>>             Fox,  Fusion Facts
>>>>>>>             Elemental
>>>>>>>             Replication ?
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>                   Around mid
>>>>>>>             September
>>>>>>>             I put together an
>>>>>>>             electrolysis cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold
>>>>>>>             Fusion Cell
>>>>>>>             with the goal of
>>>>>>>             exploring the possibilities of making what is
>>>>>>>             termed “Pristine
>>>>>>>             Water”.   This water
>>>>>>>             which will be used by Homeopaths
>>>>>>>             will have had all memory or information
>>>>>>>             removed.  This is accomplished by
>>>>>>>             recombining monatomic
>>>>>>>             hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated in a
>>>>>>>             properly
>>>>>>>             designed cell.  This is
>>>>>>>             the ultimate in purity since this is
>>>>>>>             water with conditions at the time of original
>>>>>>>             creation.  “Holly Water”is a term
>>>>>>>             coined by my dear
>>>>>>>             friend and fellow researcher Joe Tyls of
>>>>>>>             Vancouver, BC.   After several weeks of
>>>>>>>             successful operation
>>>>>>>             producing water that had all the earmarks of a
>>>>>>>             true “pristine
>>>>>>>             water” a fellow
>>>>>>>             researcher suggested using an alternate
>>>>>>>             electrolyte.   A solution was selected
>>>>>>>             that contained 77
>>>>>>>             colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the
>>>>>>>             easiest
>>>>>>>             assimilated into the
>>>>>>>             body.   With the
>>>>>>>             electrolyte changed the
>>>>>>>             cell was put back into operation as before with a
>>>>>>>             nice
>>>>>>>             recombination burn and
>>>>>>>             production of the sought after “pristine
>>>>>>>             water”.                                                                                                                                     
>>>>>>>                    
>>>>>>>                 After about an
>>>>>>>             hour of
>>>>>>>             operation the cell
>>>>>>>             went absolutely “nuts” with the temperature
>>>>>>>             rapidly climbing
>>>>>>>             to boiling point
>>>>>>>             and the current out of sight. 
>>>>>>>             When the
>>>>>>>             cell was opened we found a deep red sludge deposit
>>>>>>>             which
>>>>>>>             shorted the cell
>>>>>>>             plates.   Our first
>>>>>>>             thought was that the
>>>>>>>             electrolytic action precipitated out the colloidal
>>>>>>>             minerals
>>>>>>>             which caused the
>>>>>>>             deposit found.   The 
>>>>>>>             electrolyte was allowed
>>>>>>>             to settle out the
>>>>>>>             precipitate.   After 
>>>>>>>             decanting off,  the clear electrolyte
>>>>>>>             was
>>>>>>>             returned to the
>>>>>>>             cell for another run. Again the cell operated
>>>>>>>             normally for
>>>>>>>             about an hour with a
>>>>>>>             normal recombination burn and recovery of the
>>>>>>>             water being
>>>>>>>             consumed by the cell
>>>>>>>             in the splitting action.   Again
>>>>>>>             the cell
>>>>>>>             temperature and current mirrored the first
>>>>>>>             run. 
>>>>>>>             Again the cell contained the same amount of
>>>>>>>             sludge
>>>>>>>             residue.   This process
>>>>>>>             was repeated ten (10) times
>>>>>>>             with exactly the same results.  
>>>>>>>             All of
>>>>>>>             the sludge was carefully dried and weighed on an
>>>>>>>             electronic
>>>>>>>             scale with a five
>>>>>>>             decimal
>>>>>>>             resolution.                     
>>>>>>>             The cell plates and all hardware were
>>>>>>>             weighed to
>>>>>>>             determine any loss of
>>>>>>>             mass that may contribute to the mass gain observed
>>>>>>>             in the
>>>>>>>             sludge.  Five hundred
>>>>>>>             (500) ml of the original
>>>>>>>             electrolyte solution used in the cell was vacuum
>>>>>>>             distilled to
>>>>>>>             determine the
>>>>>>>             exact mass of colloidal minerals
>>>>>>>             contained. 
>>>>>>>             When all factors were considered we came
>>>>>>>             out with a
>>>>>>>             mass gain of  48 gm
>>>>>>>             which cannot be explained by
>>>>>>>             conventional
>>>>>>>             electrolysis.                      
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                 After talking
>>>>>>>             to Dr.
>>>>>>>             Robert Bass and Hal
>>>>>>>             Fox I learned of a patent that has been filed on
>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>             transmutation of elements
>>>>>>>             in the cold fusion cell which is the process that
>>>>>>>             Dr. John
>>>>>>>             Bockris has been so
>>>>>>>             active in.   Both Dr.
>>>>>>>             Bass and Hal Fox
>>>>>>>             stated that what I was observing is not the same
>>>>>>>             as the
>>>>>>>             transmutation observed
>>>>>>>             in the cold fusion cell since I have a overall
>>>>>>>             mass gain and
>>>>>>>             not a lateral
>>>>>>>             movement of elements in the periodic table toward
>>>>>>>             lighter
>>>>>>>             elements with a
>>>>>>>             resulting heat release.  This
>>>>>>>             unusual
>>>>>>>             cell operation has caused quite a reaction in the
>>>>>>>             scientific
>>>>>>>             community.  At this
>>>>>>>             time I have built a complete new cell
>>>>>>>             with every possible factor which could possibly
>>>>>>>             explain the
>>>>>>>             mass gain
>>>>>>>             considered and documented.  The
>>>>>>>             ten (10)
>>>>>>>             consecutive runs on the new cell will be completed
>>>>>>>             soon and a
>>>>>>>             report will be
>>>>>>>             forthcoming.   What is
>>>>>>>             interesting about
>>>>>>>             this phenomenon is that when an eleventh run was
>>>>>>>             made with the
>>>>>>>             original
>>>>>>>             electrolyte exactly the same amount of residue was
>>>>>>>             recovered
>>>>>>>             as in the previous
>>>>>>>             ten
>>>>>>>             runs.                                                                       
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>             Since
>>>>>>>             the same electrolyte is reused each time with only
>>>>>>>             distilled
>>>>>>>             water being added
>>>>>>>             to replace the volume lost by the removal of the
>>>>>>>             solids and
>>>>>>>             the water recovered
>>>>>>>             by the recombination burn we are hard pressed to
>>>>>>>             explain the
>>>>>>>             observed
>>>>>>>             phenomenon.     The
>>>>>>>             electrolyte appears
>>>>>>>             stronger in mineral concentration and shows no
>>>>>>>             sign of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             depletion.                                
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                After conferring
>>>>>>>             with
>>>>>>>             Joe Tyls we arrived at
>>>>>>>             the conclusion that the 77 colloidal minerals
>>>>>>>             contained in the
>>>>>>>             electrolyte
>>>>>>>             provide the atomic templates needed for the
>>>>>>>             monatomic hydrogen
>>>>>>>             (father of all
>>>>>>>             the elements) to replicate selected elements in
>>>>>>>             this exotic
>>>>>>>             mixture.  If you
>>>>>>>             subscribe to the theories of the late
>>>>>>>             Walter Russell and his explanation of the octave
>>>>>>>             based
>>>>>>>             periodic table with
>>>>>>>             monatonic hydrogen being what he describes as
>>>>>>>             hydrons
>>>>>>>             (precursor to hydrogen)
>>>>>>>             then it is possible for the replication of
>>>>>>>             elements directly
>>>>>>>             from energy input
>>>>>>>             alone.  This is how all
>>>>>>>             matter was
>>>>>>>             created in the beginning as described by
>>>>>>>             Schappeller in “The
>>>>>>>             Physics of the
>>>>>>>             Primary State of Matter”.    I
>>>>>>>             will keep
>>>>>>>             all informed as to our progress and findings in
>>>>>>>             this very
>>>>>>>             intriguing venture.
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>             Norman
>>>>>>>             Wootan
>>>>>>>             P.O.
>>>>>>>             Box 141049
>>>>>>>             Dallas,
>>>>>>>             TX 75214
>>>>>>>             (214)
>>>>>>>             360-0865
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>             CC:  Gene Mallove,
>>>>>>>             Infinite
>>>>>>>             Energy
>>>>>>>             CC:  Dr. John
>>>>>>>             Bockris, Texas
>>>>>>>             A/M
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             On 10/28/2018 1:01 AM,
>>>>>>>             Jakob Wall
>>>>>>>             wall_jakob@... <mailto:wall_jakob@...>
>>>>>>>             [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             Thanks Norman,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             BTW, what is the most effective water split
>>>>>>>             device that
>>>>>>>             you ever put you hands on?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             As HHO researcher for dekades you should be
>>>>>>>             able to point
>>>>>>>             us directly to the most effective known!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             Please be specific about reconstruction of the
>>>>>>>             same, since
>>>>>>>             we are in public domain it will become public
>>>>>>>             knowledge
>>>>>>>             and public good. I assume you intend nothing
>>>>>>>             else,rigth ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             --------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             On Sat, 10/27/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>>>>             <mailto:nwootan@...>
>>>>>>>             [EVGRAY]
>>>>>>>             <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>>             wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's
>>>>>>>             Magnetic
>>>>>>>             Battery [3 Attachments]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             To: "Bert Pool" <BertPool512@...>
>>>>>>>             <mailto:BertPool512@...>,
>>>>>>>             "Bob
>>>>>>>             Paddock" <bob.paddock@...> <mailto:bob.paddock@...>,
>>>>>>>             "joel mcclain"
>>>>>>>             <joel_76670@...> <mailto:joel_76670@...>,
>>>>>>>             "Jon Gentry"
>>>>>>>             <jongen422@...> <mailto:jongen422@...>,
>>>>>>>             "Lane Wootan"
>>>>>>>             <lanewootan@...> <mailto:lanewootan@...>,
>>>>>>>             "Mbking42"
>>>>>>>             <mbking42@...> <mailto:mbking42@...>,
>>>>>>>             "Toby Grotz"
>>>>>>>             <wireless2@...> <mailto:wireless2@...>,
>>>>>>>             "Phil Rembold"
>>>>>>>             <prembold@...> <mailto:prembold@...>,
>>>>>>>             "Angel Alvarez"
>>>>>>>             <angel@...> <mailto:angel@...>,
>>>>>>>             "Fredric Fletcher"
>>>>>>>             <ffletcher@...> <mailto:ffletcher@...>,
>>>>>>>             [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             To understand the unwinding of a thread
>>>>>>>             leading
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             to Magnetic
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             Generating Hydrogen and this Magnetic Battery,
>>>>>>>             we have
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             to dust off
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             our  9th grade Chemistry Books!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             http://www.rexresearch.com/ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm     
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             I guess Dr.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             Ehrenhaft was the first to propose a Magnetic
>>>>>>>             Current.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             (Jon
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             Gentry, Your liquid metal vortex helix).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             https://revolution-green.com/can-electrolysis-powered-magnets/      
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             Ah! Ha!  more on Magnetic Currents!!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             https://www.labmanager.com/white-papers-and-application-notes/2010/05/resistivity-conductivity-measurement-of-purified-water#.W9So9uJRc2w
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             https://www.askiitians.com/forums/Physical-Chemistry/19/19074/electro-che
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpotential
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             https://www.quora.com/Why-is-oxygen-molecule-paramagnetic-although-it-does-not-contain-any-unpaired-electron
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251580541_The_effect_of_magnetic_force_on_hydrogen_production_efficiency_in_water_electrolysis
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             http://www.physicscentral.com/experiment/physicsathome/electricwhirlpool.cfm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             http://www.linux-host.org/energy/bmagpump.htm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             Now Jon Gentry you have your liquid metal pump
>>>>>>>             so
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             that you can
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             make the helix tube Vortex! 
>>>>>>>             Ferricpetacarbonyl or
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             micro fine neo
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             powder to provide the liquid metal for pump
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             circuit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             Lots of reading here!     Please think
>>>>>>>             about the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             ramifications of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             a Magnetic Current as proposed by Dr.
>>>>>>>             Ehrenhaft!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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On 11/9/2018 6:22 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>
> Once upon a time, back in the 80s there was the famous Cold Fusion 
> Debate of which I was a part.  There was a Cold Fusion Cell built that 
> used pure nickel for the anode/cathodes., Called a Double Nickel 
> Cell.  It happened that Bert Pool & Leslie were going to Canada for a 
> little vacation so Bert brought back Canadian quarters which BTW were 
> pure nickel.   I built the below cell to measure  anomalous heat 
> output which had been reported.   I called it the Octa-Nickel Cell and 
> by using pure nickel elements, it was a huge hydrogen producer.  I 
> used Potassium Carbonate for the electrolyte with a 5VDC power supply 
> @ 10 amps to drive the cell and it did deliver the additional heat 
> output over the input wattage as measured by the instrumented 
> enclosure. I burned off the H-H-O produced with the little stainless 
> nozzle shown and it would sublimate tungsten wire in the 10,000 degree 
> pink/blue recombination burn.  A true sign of atomic hydrogen.   A 
> real break through occurred when I took the experiment to a Vanguard 
> Science Meeting to do a report on Cold Fusion.  While transporting the 
> cell some of my electrolyte was spilled, so I went to the rest room 
> and got some Dallas tap water to top off the 100ml beaker. When placed 
> into operation, the cell sat there and produced the atomic hydrogen 
> /oxygen gas but the cell temperature was going down below the ambient 
> starting temperature of 78 degrees at start.  I was puzzled over how 
> you could be putting in 50 watts of hard DC power and the cell 
> temperature was going down.  Demonstration ruined BUT, quite revealing 
> since there was something unusual going on. I suspected that the 
> nickel electrode cell was transmuting the chlorine contaminates in the 
> Dallas tap water. Thus, I built the Elemental Replication Cell which 
> was designed around 316L stainless steel anodes/cathodes cause I could 
> not afford to buy sheet nickel stock. See : 
> http://www.pennstainless.com/stainless-grades/300-series-stainless-steel/316l-stainless-steel/ 
> The elemental Replication Phenomenon was verified by other researches 
> in the Tesla Tech Group as reported at the annual meetings by Steve 
> Elswick.  Nickel has been shown to be a very powerful catalytic agent 
> in the combustion of diesel/water mix as done by Caterpillar Corp and 
> the auto Industry.  See: 
> http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm Bosch Corp. designed 
> ultra high voltage ignition system to burn water fuel combination 
> which BTW had the nickel catalyst present.
>
>
>
>
> On 11/8/2018 6:42 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>> I want to prepare some findings on "Catalysts" tomorrow. I need to 
>> pull up some interesting info for you all!
>>
>>

Mick! I had to retire from my Contracting Business due to the neck 
fratures See;

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On 11/8/2018 4:29 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Hi Norm,
>
> The catalysts are very interesting.  Iron Cobalt and Nickel all 
> ferromagnetic but at different spins.
>
> Correct me if I am wrong but based on reading your links a bingofuel 
> type reactor using tungsten electrodes that hopefully would last much 
> longer would likely produce OH rather than H and carbon monoxide, what 
> do you think?
>
> Also water is strange indeed in that a pyramid or orgone accumulator 
> changes it and these simple changes could make for water that breaks 
> up more easily.  I would love to know what results you demonstrated 
> with the totally juvenile memory free water you put back together from 
> the OH?
>
> Sorry to hear about your neck fracture, I have a similar issue and it 
> is extremely painful and debilitating at times.
>
> Mick
>
>
> On 11/7/2018 4:15 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 11/7/2018 6:06 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>
>>> Jakob Wall! & all other researchers on here need to read the Whole 
>>> Story as to why I no longer have a research lab.  Jakob, I'm sorry I 
>>> did not reveal to you the BEST in my opinion of methods of producing 
>>> hydrogen gas for I felt it was a little too advanced and difficult 
>>> for you to experiment with.  See: 
>>> https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en .   There is a very 
>>> long story behind this US Patent and a hell of a lot of research. 
>>> The quest for a very inexpensive method of splitting water has been 
>>> the Holy Grail of  cheap energy.   In addition to the research 
>>> papers and links that I gave to you, here are some more to dwell on.
>>>
>>> https://www.researchgate.net/post/At_what_temperature_water_will_decompose_to_Oxygen_and_Hydrogen
>>>
>>> https://www.quora.com/Does-water-break-down-into-oxygen-and-hydrogen-at-high-temperatures-If-so-then-at-what-temperature
>>>
>>> https://www.quora.com/How-much-water-can-you-split-into-hydrogen-and-oxygen-using-electrolysis-with-one-kilowatt-hour-of-electricity
>>>
>>> http://www.redrok.com/hion96a1.htm
>>>
>>> https://www.nature.com/articles/nplants201741 Please read carefully 
>>> about the play of Nickel in this approach!
>>>
>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_splitting
>>>
>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water-gas_shift_reaction I owned 77 
>>> acres of land in Eureka Springs, AR where they still had the old 
>>> water gas generator and gas storage facility.
>>>
>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decarboxylation
>>>
>>> https://phys.org/news/2018-02-uncovers-mechanism-water-splitting-catalyst.html
>>>
>>> https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/new-catalyst-could-split-water-cheaply/
>>>
>>> https://www.technologyreview.com/s/512996/a-cheaper-way-to-make-hydrogen-from-water/
>>>
>>> "*SUPER STEAM* - A Tesla conference in Colorado surfaces new Super 
>>> Steam Technology (SST). Leonard Dorsett and friends from Texas share 
>>> strikingly similar views to Aquarian Agency Ltd. They have 
>>> technology which produces steam instantly at up to 3,000F without a 
>>> boiler and with 60% savings in fuel over traditional boilers. 
>>> Nitrogen rich, it can put out gasoline fires and treat many waste 
>>> problems. Of major importance to Aquarian, this nitrogen-rich steam 
>>> will help to produce heat and Aquastone at considerable savings."
>>>
>>> For further information on Aquarian Agency Ltd. they can be 
>>> contacted at 38 Weir Rd, Wimbledon, London SW19 SUG, England or on 
>>> Internet at <aquarian ocign.ape.org>. *_SUPER STEAM TECHNOLOGY PART 2_*
>>>
>>> Leonard Dorsett (PO Box 365, Grapevine, TX 76092) demonstrated his 
>>> Super Steam Technology at the 1994 International Tesla Symposium. 
>>> SST is a system for producing steam at any temperature or pressure 
>>> independently and instantly without the need for a conventional 
>>> boiler. It can instantly produce steam of any temperature from hot 
>>> water at 180F to super heated steam at over 3000F, while pressures 
>>> can vary from 1PSI to 3000PSI with airflow volumes of 1CFM up to 
>>> over 2000CFM. The system operates on propane, methane, petrol, 
>>> kerosene, methanol, diesel, hydrogen or just about anything else 
>>> that bums and converts virtually 100% of the fuel into usable 
>>> energy. (Note: The person in the picture is Norman Wootan of MRA fame)
>>>
>>> This all sounds great, but how does it work? The basis of the unit 
>>> is a specially designed open throat chamber with controlled air, 
>>> water and fuel interaction and a high voltage ignition resulting in 
>>> a direct fire process establishing thermal zones. This creates a 
>>> stoichiometric condition resulting in a full spectrum of steam 
>>> product. Now comes the interesting part At the increased 
>>> temperatures of steam, disassociation occurs. (Could this be a clue 
>>> to running cars on water??) The hydrogen and oxygen reacts causing 
>>> an exponential increase of energy resulting in super heated steam. A 
>>> similar superheat process was addressed by Tesla in the October 12, 
>>> 1911 publication of the "Engineering News Record".
>>>
>>> Applications of the SST system include a much more economical way of 
>>> producing electricity as no conventional boiler is needed. It will 
>>> also be an ideal low cost method for heating and cooling homes and 
>>> businesses. Small portable units can be developed for home use, such 
>>> as steam cleaning, and insect and ant removal, without the dangers 
>>> of insecticides. The system can also be used for low cost 
>>> purification of polluted water or sewerage and can also convert salt 
>>> water into drinking water both quickly and inexpensively. Other uses 
>>> are in fire fighting applications, ice and snow removal from roads, 
>>> etc. and sterilization and nurturing of soil for agriculture where 
>>> contamination has occurred.
>>>
>>> I had designed a method of making hydrogen from carbon & water vapor 
>>> using the Tesla Atomic Bombardment method of high frequency inside 
>>> of spherical inclosure like this experiments with the carbon button 
>>> lamp globes.   After working with Leonard Dorsett and his Super 
>>> Steam Project, I chose to use the Water Shift Process instead.  A 
>>> side note is needed here!  The Super Steam Process was a result of 
>>> Professor Brown studying the method the German's used for torpedo 
>>> propulsion from WWI. Acetylene Gas and sea water produced an 
>>> exothermic reaction generating Super Steam. Brown built several 
>>> reactors and tested them in the Tulsa area to break (down hole) the 
>>> parafin deposits to release crude oil.
>>>
>>> The Chemical equation for the reaction in the US Patent: 
>>> https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en
>>>
>>> *(6C + 12 H2O= 6CO2 + 24H) *
>>>
>>> Hydrogen Reactor Development
>>>
>>> **
>>>
>>> Original concept design was a high voltage, high frequency resonant 
>>> device that utilized carbon water reaction with the feedstock being 
>>> in the form of graphite rod stock.This unit was designed for vehicle 
>>> application and had too many limitations to be used for mass 
>>> hydrogen generation.This type reactor is very effective at hydrogen 
>>> production since it targets the water vapor molecule at MRI 
>>> frequencies, which breaks the bonding, allowing the carbon to latch 
>>> onto the oxygen atoms leaving the hydrogen free. This device was a 
>>> closed system that used a simple CO2/hydrogen separation stage that 
>>> enabled the hydrogen to be feed to an internal combustion engine.
>>>
>>> **
>>>
>>> *To allow for a sustained high mass flow of hydrogen gas output, 
>>> reactor design took on a radical change.By incorporating the 
>>> Ranque/Hilsch, Counter Flow Implosion Vortex Principle, and 
>>> continuous high mass flow and gas separation were achieved in one 
>>> stage of operation.Feedstock for this type reactor could be any 
>>> carbon-based material that could be put into a powder form.Highest 
>>> carbon content of the feedstock provides for the most efficient 
>>> hydrogen production with the least undesirable output material.*
>>>
>>> **
>>>
>>> *Super high temperature operating regime was chosen to be above 2500 
>>> C for the purpose of producing atomic hydrogen in the process.The 
>>> original reactor operated at temperatures that easily gasified basic 
>>> carbon into a plasma state (>10,000 F) more easily allowing the 
>>> production of hydrogen from the stoichiometric feed stock ratios.*
>>>
>>> *
>>> *
>>>
>>> **
>>>
>>> I sold one of my Patents (Sonodiffuser) and paid for my 52 acres of 
>>> land and built a 5200 sq. Ft. lab the do the Prototype machining and 
>>> Proof of Concept testing for GAZPROM, Moscow in 2005. A $1.2 million 
>>> investment and they got the rights to the process and I got the 
>>> beautiful Research Lab all paid in full. I was a self employed 
>>> Contractor in Dallas working with HVAC, Electrical and Electronics 
>>> Maintenance so had to commute 170 miles/day and only had the week 
>>> ends for my time! Having to mow grass and maintane the 52 acres took 
>>> all my time and when I suffered a neck fracture in 2012, had to 
>>> retire. Liquidated the entire facility and sold it off. Moved to 
>>> Dallas then to South Louisiana where I now do a lot of relaxing and 
>>> fishing!
>>>
>>> Hector and ALL, I did my time in the Barrel so now I will just 
>>> contribute to the dialog inorder to assist any research you may be 
>>> doing within my area of experitise!     BTW! I have been out to 
>>> pasture for a long time now, so no BULL offense!  As Hector knows, 
>>> "It fits"! Lol
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes! Hector, I will wear my Border Patrol Hat when you come visit 
>>> from PR!  Lol
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/6/2018 8:52 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> By the way ... i can hit mega millions or the power ball  . i never 
>>>> will not have a lab i can work in,  that is worst than death , you 
>>>> have no idea of the technology that had being lost by the greedy 
>>>> fucking bastards fucking my life , they will loose all they have  
>>>> "soon" because it had being engineered that way by accumulative bad 
>>>> karma, i have another lab they will never reach or be able to 
>>>> intercept or destroy and that will decide their fate ..... they 
>>>> will be fucked hard !
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> (H)
>>>>
>>>> ---In [email protected], <mkjekyll@...> wrote :
>>>>
>>>> Cmon Hector,
>>>>
>>>> Bad taste!
>>>>
>>>> The man had a more serious lab than anyone else here and his work 
>>>> speaks for itself. Maybe he has gained the fortune he desired 
>>>> through R&D and now shitting in tall cotton or gone fishing reaping 
>>>> the rewards of retirement. Notwithstanding is still kind enough to 
>>>> help point us in the right directions around here.
>>>>
>>>> "*Funny–I can look back on a life of achievement, on challenges 
>>>> met, competitors bested, obstacles overcome. I’ve accomplished more 
>>>> than most men, and without the use of my legs. What?What makes a 
>>>> man, Mr. Lebowski?"*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11/6/2018 8:04 AM, arkresearch@... <mailto:arkresearch@...> 
>>>> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>     Dar n ! a Scientist inventor with no lab is like a breeding
>>>>>     bull with no balls !
>>>>>
>>>>>     Balls Cow GIF - Balls Cow WingDangDoodle GIFs
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     ---In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>,
>>>>>     <nwootan@...> <mailto:nwootan@...> wrote :
>>>>>
>>>>>     Jacob! You asked me a question and I gave you my opinion!  I'm
>>>>>     totally retired at 80 years old and have no lab to experiment
>>>>>     in! Your quote; I heard once a phrase from a researcher who
>>>>>     said. '' Slow down boy, we get paid for llooking for
>>>>>     solutions, not to find them!''   That certainly does not apply
>>>>>     to me for I have shared all with the folks on this site. I
>>>>>     find you statement very interesting:  Technics that use up 10
>>>>>     % of a magnet in 24 hours with usual amount of gas looks to me
>>>>>     extremely inefficient. ??????        Care to share where you
>>>>>     saw the power of a permanent magnet being used up!   We all
>>>>>     here on this site share what ever knowledge we have on the
>>>>>     various subjects not seeking any monetary gain in any way!
>>>>>     That is my approach!   I just contribute to the dialog when I
>>>>>     run across something interesting and think it will assist you
>>>>>     guys!   Norm
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     On 11/3/2018 11:32 PM, Jakob Wall wall_jakob@...
>>>>>     <mailto:wall_jakob@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>         Thanks Norman,
>>>>>>         But i actually asced for ''most efficient way'' to split
>>>>>>         water known to you!
>>>>>>         I realize there are a lot of different technigues to do
>>>>>>         just that.
>>>>>>         And yes i realize you could give me a rather complex
>>>>>>         answer. But instead i hope for a
>>>>>>         rather easy and reproductive answer since i am looking
>>>>>>         forward to solve my enerrgy
>>>>>>         problems i just can not live with the momentary (sad and
>>>>>>         very stupid energy situation)
>>>>>>         I am still not giving up becouse of a couple mistakes and
>>>>>>         misunderstandings.
>>>>>>         If i would be a car dealer and you would ask me for a
>>>>>>         most efficient car available on the market
>>>>>>         i would for sure not recommend a Prius, since there are a
>>>>>>         lot of cars with better fuel economie
>>>>>>         even without being a hybrid and without additional cost
>>>>>>         like batterys,e-motors and a bunch added ECU's
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours with
>>>>>>         usual amount of gas looks to me extremely
>>>>>>         inefficient.
>>>>>>         Also very expensive HHO-Garage products with output of
>>>>>>         1,6 ltr/min.
>>>>>>         Come on, 6 rusty nails and a old car batery does this
>>>>>>         job, no need to spend 1600 bucks on it.
>>>>>>         I honestly expected solide advise or a honest NO way boy,
>>>>>>         i just talking around.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. '' Slow
>>>>>>         down boy, we get paid for llooking for
>>>>>>         solutions, not to find them!'' That shoked me deeply and
>>>>>>         even if i get 150 years old, i will not forget it.
>>>>>>         Thats true treason on mankind and deciving the people. I
>>>>>>         really hope nobody on this forum only care
>>>>>>         about what he/she will be doing tomorrow.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Jakob
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         --------------------------------------------
>>>>>>         On Sun, 10/28/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>>>         <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
>>>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery
>>>>>>         To: [email protected]
>>>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]>, "Bert Pool"
>>>>>>         <BertPool512@...> <mailto:BertPool512@...>, "Bob Paddock"
>>>>>>         <bob.paddock@...> <mailto:bob.paddock@...>, "joel
>>>>>>         mcclain" <joel_76670@...> <mailto:joel_76670@...>, "Jon
>>>>>>         Gentry" <jongen422@...> <mailto:jongen422@...>,
>>>>>>         "Mbking42" <mbking42@...> <mailto:mbking42@...>, "Toby
>>>>>>         Grotz" <wireless2@...> <mailto:wireless2@...>, "Phil
>>>>>>         Rembold" <prembold@...> <mailto:prembold@...>, "Angel
>>>>>>         Alvarez" <angel@...> <mailto:angel@...>, "Fredric
>>>>>>         Fletcher" <ffletcher@...> <mailto:ffletcher@...>
>>>>>>         Received: Sunday, October 28, 2018, 9:44 AM
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Jacob!  That would be a rather complex answer
>>>>>>         but here is your
>>>>>>         starting point!
>>>>>>         https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct-thermomagnetic-splitting-of-water-.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         After having been heavily involved in the COLD FUSION
>>>>>>         Research
>>>>>>         back in the 70s and 80s I quickly settled o0n the best
>>>>>>         catalyst in
>>>>>>         electrolytic cells which is pure nickel. I still have
>>>>>>         the cell
>>>>>>         used in the Elemental Replication experiments.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm
>>>>>>         The hidden
>>>>>>         part of this research is the use of a nickel component
>>>>>>         in the
>>>>>>         combustion chamber. Bosch developed 90,000V ignition
>>>>>>         systems to
>>>>>>         enable water injection in gas engine which high
>>>>>>         lighted the
>>>>>>         Graneau HV decomposition of water via HVDC
>>>>>>         discharge!
>>>>>>         My magnetic Battery when run as an electrolytic cell
>>>>>>         to produce
>>>>>>         hydrogen does produce a huge amount of hydrogen gas as
>>>>>>         shown by
>>>>>>         the Dr. Ehrenhaft document.  I would tell you to
>>>>>>         pursue the super
>>>>>>         high Tesla magnetic flux and nickel electrodes in an
>>>>>>         electrolytic
>>>>>>         cell.  The major obstacle to be overcome is the rapid
>>>>>>         collection
>>>>>>         of ions from solution by the 1.3 Tesla flux across a
>>>>>>         .020"
>>>>>>         mechanical gap which quickly takes the cell into a
>>>>>>         super-conduction mode which takes out the driving DC
>>>>>>         power supply.
>>>>>>         You can flush the magnetic gaps with distilled water
>>>>>>         and the gaps
>>>>>>         will show in the meg-ohm range then go to zero ohms
>>>>>>         after a short
>>>>>>         period of running, the gathered ions totally short
>>>>>>         cell. During
>>>>>>         the brief runs there is a huge amount of hydrogen gas
>>>>>>         produced
>>>>>>         which I burned off as it was generated.  Much can be
>>>>>>         said about
>>>>>>         driving the cell with high frequencies as the Myers
>>>>>>         research
>>>>>>         showed.  Our friend up in Canada at George Wiseman,
>>>>>>         Eagle Research
>>>>>>         is running well ahead of the crowd on the production
>>>>>>         of H-H-O.
>>>>>>         Just for giggles!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         16 October
>>>>>>         1996
>>>>>>         To: Hal
>>>>>>         Fox,  Fusion Facts
>>>>>>         Elemental
>>>>>>         Replication ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>               Around mid
>>>>>>         September
>>>>>>         I put together an
>>>>>>         electrolysis cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold
>>>>>>         Fusion Cell
>>>>>>         with the goal of
>>>>>>         exploring the possibilities of making what is
>>>>>>         termed “Pristine
>>>>>>         Water”.   This water
>>>>>>         which will be used by Homeopaths
>>>>>>         will have had all memory or information
>>>>>>         removed.  This is accomplished by
>>>>>>         recombining monatomic
>>>>>>         hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated in a
>>>>>>         properly
>>>>>>         designed cell.  This is
>>>>>>         the ultimate in purity since this is
>>>>>>         water with conditions at the time of original
>>>>>>         creation.  “Holly Water”is a term
>>>>>>         coined by my dear
>>>>>>         friend and fellow researcher Joe Tyls of
>>>>>>         Vancouver, BC.   After several weeks of
>>>>>>         successful operation
>>>>>>         producing water that had all the earmarks of a
>>>>>>         true “pristine
>>>>>>         water” a fellow
>>>>>>         researcher suggested using an alternate
>>>>>>         electrolyte.   A solution was selected
>>>>>>         that contained 77
>>>>>>         colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the
>>>>>>         easiest
>>>>>>         assimilated into the
>>>>>>         body.   With the
>>>>>>         electrolyte changed the
>>>>>>         cell was put back into operation as before with a
>>>>>>         nice
>>>>>>         recombination burn and
>>>>>>         production of the sought after “pristine
>>>>>>         water”.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             After about an
>>>>>>         hour of
>>>>>>         operation the cell
>>>>>>         went absolutely “nuts” with the temperature
>>>>>>         rapidly climbing
>>>>>>         to boiling point
>>>>>>         and the current out of sight.
>>>>>>         When the
>>>>>>         cell was opened we found a deep red sludge deposit
>>>>>>         which
>>>>>>         shorted the cell
>>>>>>         plates.   Our first
>>>>>>         thought was that the
>>>>>>         electrolytic action precipitated out the colloidal
>>>>>>         minerals
>>>>>>         which caused the
>>>>>>         deposit found.   The
>>>>>>         electrolyte was allowed
>>>>>>         to settle out the
>>>>>>         precipitate.   After
>>>>>>         decanting off,  the clear electrolyte
>>>>>>         was
>>>>>>         returned to the
>>>>>>         cell for another run. Again the cell operated
>>>>>>         normally for
>>>>>>         about an hour with a
>>>>>>         normal recombination burn and recovery of the
>>>>>>         water being
>>>>>>         consumed by the cell
>>>>>>         in the splitting action. Again
>>>>>>         the cell
>>>>>>         temperature and current mirrored the first
>>>>>>         run.
>>>>>>         Again the cell contained the same amount of
>>>>>>         sludge
>>>>>>         residue.   This process
>>>>>>         was repeated ten (10) times
>>>>>>         with exactly the same results.
>>>>>>         All of
>>>>>>         the sludge was carefully dried and weighed on an
>>>>>>         electronic
>>>>>>         scale with a five
>>>>>>         decimal
>>>>>>         resolution.
>>>>>>         The cell plates and all hardware were
>>>>>>         weighed to
>>>>>>         determine any loss of
>>>>>>         mass that may contribute to the mass gain observed
>>>>>>         in the
>>>>>>         sludge.  Five hundred
>>>>>>         (500) ml of the original
>>>>>>         electrolyte solution used in the cell was vacuum
>>>>>>         distilled to
>>>>>>         determine the
>>>>>>         exact mass of colloidal minerals
>>>>>>         contained.
>>>>>>         When all factors were considered we came
>>>>>>         out with a
>>>>>>         mass gain of  48 gm
>>>>>>         which cannot be explained by
>>>>>>         conventional
>>>>>>         electrolysis.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             After talking
>>>>>>         to Dr.
>>>>>>         Robert Bass and Hal
>>>>>>         Fox I learned of a patent that has been filed on
>>>>>>         the
>>>>>>         transmutation of elements
>>>>>>         in the cold fusion cell which is the process that
>>>>>>         Dr. John
>>>>>>         Bockris has been so
>>>>>>         active in.   Both Dr.
>>>>>>         Bass and Hal Fox
>>>>>>         stated that what I was observing is not the same
>>>>>>         as the
>>>>>>         transmutation observed
>>>>>>         in the cold fusion cell since I have a overall
>>>>>>         mass gain and
>>>>>>         not a lateral
>>>>>>         movement of elements in the periodic table toward
>>>>>>         lighter
>>>>>>         elements with a
>>>>>>         resulting heat release. This
>>>>>>         unusual
>>>>>>         cell operation has caused quite a reaction in the
>>>>>>         scientific
>>>>>>         community.  At this
>>>>>>         time I have built a complete new cell
>>>>>>         with every possible factor which could possibly
>>>>>>         explain the
>>>>>>         mass gain
>>>>>>         considered and documented.  The
>>>>>>         ten (10)
>>>>>>         consecutive runs on the new cell will be completed
>>>>>>         soon and a
>>>>>>         report will be
>>>>>>         forthcoming.   What is
>>>>>>         interesting about
>>>>>>         this phenomenon is that when an eleventh run was
>>>>>>         made with the
>>>>>>         original
>>>>>>         electrolyte exactly the same amount of residue was
>>>>>>         recovered
>>>>>>         as in the previous
>>>>>>         ten
>>>>>>         runs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Since
>>>>>>         the same electrolyte is reused each time with only
>>>>>>         distilled
>>>>>>         water being added
>>>>>>         to replace the volume lost by the removal of the
>>>>>>         solids and
>>>>>>         the water recovered
>>>>>>         by the recombination burn we are hard pressed to
>>>>>>         explain the
>>>>>>         observed
>>>>>>         phenomenon.     The
>>>>>>         electrolyte appears
>>>>>>         stronger in mineral concentration and shows no
>>>>>>         sign of
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         depletion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            After conferring
>>>>>>         with
>>>>>>         Joe Tyls we arrived at
>>>>>>         the conclusion that the 77 colloidal minerals
>>>>>>         contained in the
>>>>>>         electrolyte
>>>>>>         provide the atomic templates needed for the
>>>>>>         monatomic hydrogen
>>>>>>         (father of all
>>>>>>         the elements) to replicate selected elements in
>>>>>>         this exotic
>>>>>>         mixture.  If you
>>>>>>         subscribe to the theories of the late
>>>>>>         Walter Russell and his explanation of the octave
>>>>>>         based
>>>>>>         periodic table with
>>>>>>         monatonic hydrogen being what he describes as
>>>>>>         hydrons
>>>>>>         (precursor to hydrogen)
>>>>>>         then it is possible for the replication of
>>>>>>         elements directly
>>>>>>         from energy input
>>>>>>         alone.  This is how all
>>>>>>         matter was
>>>>>>         created in the beginning as described by
>>>>>>         Schappeller in “The
>>>>>>         Physics of the
>>>>>>         Primary State of Matter”.    I
>>>>>>         will keep
>>>>>>         all informed as to our progress and findings in
>>>>>>         this very
>>>>>>         intriguing venture.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Norman
>>>>>>         Wootan
>>>>>>         P.O.
>>>>>>         Box 141049
>>>>>>         Dallas,
>>>>>>         TX 75214
>>>>>>         (214)
>>>>>>         360-0865
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         CC:  Gene Mallove,
>>>>>>         Infinite
>>>>>>         Energy
>>>>>>         CC:  Dr. John
>>>>>>         Bockris, Texas
>>>>>>         A/M
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         On 10/28/2018 1:01 AM,
>>>>>>         Jakob Wall
>>>>>>         wall_jakob@... <mailto:wall_jakob@...>
>>>>>>         [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Thanks Norman,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         BTW, what is the most effective water split
>>>>>>         device that
>>>>>>         you ever put you hands on?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         As HHO researcher for dekades you should be
>>>>>>         able to point
>>>>>>         us directly to the most effective known!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Please be specific about reconstruction of the
>>>>>>         same, since
>>>>>>         we are in public domain it will become public
>>>>>>         knowledge
>>>>>>         and public good. I assume you intend nothing
>>>>>>         else,rigth ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         --------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         On Sat, 10/27/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>>>         <mailto:nwootan@...>
>>>>>>         [EVGRAY]
>>>>>>         <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>         wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's
>>>>>>         Magnetic
>>>>>>         Battery [3 Attachments]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         To: "Bert Pool" <BertPool512@...> <mailto:BertPool512@...>,
>>>>>>         "Bob
>>>>>>         Paddock" <bob.paddock@...> <mailto:bob.paddock@...>,
>>>>>>         "joel mcclain"
>>>>>>         <joel_76670@...> <mailto:joel_76670@...>,
>>>>>>         "Jon Gentry"
>>>>>>         <jongen422@...> <mailto:jongen422@...>,
>>>>>>         "Lane Wootan"
>>>>>>         <lanewootan@...> <mailto:lanewootan@...>,
>>>>>>         "Mbking42"
>>>>>>         <mbking42@...> <mailto:mbking42@...>,
>>>>>>         "Toby Grotz"
>>>>>>         <wireless2@...> <mailto:wireless2@...>,
>>>>>>         "Phil Rembold"
>>>>>>         <prembold@...> <mailto:prembold@...>,
>>>>>>         "Angel Alvarez"
>>>>>>         <angel@...> <mailto:angel@...>,
>>>>>>         "Fredric Fletcher"
>>>>>>         <ffletcher@...> <mailto:ffletcher@...>,
>>>>>>         [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         To understand the unwinding of a thread
>>>>>>         leading
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         to Magnetic
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Generating Hydrogen and this Magnetic Battery,
>>>>>>         we have
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         to dust off
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         our  9th grade Chemistry Books!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         http://www.rexresearch.com/ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         I guess Dr.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Ehrenhaft was the first to propose a Magnetic
>>>>>>         Current.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         (Jon
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Gentry, Your liquid metal vortex helix).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         https://revolution-green.com/can-electrolysis-powered-magnets/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Ah! Ha!  more on Magnetic Currents!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         https://www.labmanager.com/white-papers-and-application-notes/2010/05/resistivity-conductivity-measurement-of-purified-water#.W9So9uJRc2w
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         https://www.askiitians.com/forums/Physical-Chemistry/19/19074/electro-che
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpotential
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         https://www.quora.com/Why-is-oxygen-molecule-paramagnetic-although-it-does-not-contain-any-unpaired-electron
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251580541_The_effect_of_magnetic_force_on_hydrogen_production_efficiency_in_water_electrolysis
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         http://www.physicscentral.com/experiment/physicsathome/electricwhirlpool.cfm
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         http://www.linux-host.org/energy/bmagpump.htm
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Now Jon Gentry you have your liquid metal pump
>>>>>>         so
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         that you can
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         make the helix tube Vortex!
>>>>>>         Ferricpetacarbonyl or
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         micro fine neo
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         powder to provide the liquid metal for pump
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         circuit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Lots of reading here! Please think
>>>>>>         about the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         ramifications of
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         a Magnetic Current as proposed by Dr.
>>>>>>         Ehrenhaft!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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Norm,

I have similar issues due to some creep rear ending me on the fwy. 
Traffic was traveling about 70 and due to construction we did not know
around the next corner traffic was stopped as 4x8 sheets of plywood on
the concrete abutment due to hwy construction were blocking line of
sight around a right hand sweep curve.    I was in an old Jag xj6 series
one with a chevy V8 conversion, one flatbed driver claimed it was the
heaviest car he had towed including trucks.  I came within about one
foot of the stationary car in front of me when I braked hard.  The car
behind me had just speed-ed up to pass someone and hit me, no brake
sound or evidence skidmarks, this was before cars besides German ones
had antilock brakes and his shitbox certainly did not.  The impact was
transferred to me as the car did not have crumple zones, the thick steel
seat brackets broke and my neck got fucked up.  The car from the outside
looked like barely much had happened just a dent on the left rear
messing up the trunk and left quarter panel, that thing had thick body
metal like 50's Detroit iron.  His 30 grand of insurance, the California
minimum then did not go far towards medical.

I know all about the debilitating nature of this and feel for you.  I
get the headaches and often my back is swollen and feels as if someone
has been slamming on it with a baseball bat.  A dark room and Salonpas
menthol patches are about the best one can do for these headaches.  If
one catches it in time and has some strong prescription painkiller
sometimes this will cut it to a dull throb through the day rather than
self isolated darkroom hell.


On 11/9/2018 6:23 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> Mick! I had to retire from my Contracting Business due to the neck
> fratures See;
>
> Back to Blog <https://gallatinvalleychiropractic.com/blog/blog.html>
>
> Posted on 05-14-2013
>
> *Chiropractic Treatment of the Cervical Spine*
>
>  
>
> Neck (cervical spine) pain
> <http://gallatinvalleychiropractic.com/custom_content/c_116237_neck_pain.html>is
> a common issue among many people. The cervical spine consists of seven
> vertebrae that start from the base of your head to the upper area of
> your shoulders. If the cervical spine is not aligned properly, it
> could cause many different unwanted symptoms other than just pain.
> Listed below are the vertebrae in the cervical spine and some organs
> and conditions that each segment may affect.
>
> C1- One of the most important vertebrae in the body to be aligned
> properly. This vertebrae alone can cause major conditions that can
> range from sinus issues and congestion to increased blood pressure and
> severe migraine headaches
> <http://gallatinvalleychiropractic.com/Headaches.html>. Other
> conditions are ear infections, and anything involving blood supply to
> the head.
>
> C2- This vertebrae is also very important, and with it misaligned many
> people get conditions with sinus infections, hearing issues, and
> relates to the optic nerve for vision. Also very common issues with C1
> and C2 vertebrae is balance and the vestibular system which
> misalignment can cause vertigo and dizziness.
>
> I have all the "Classic Symptoms" of the C1 & C2 fracture!
>
>
>
> On 11/8/2018 4:29 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>  
>>
>> Hi Norm,
>>
>> The catalysts are very interesting.  Iron Cobalt and Nickel all
>> ferromagnetic but at different spins.
>>
>> Correct me if I am wrong but based on reading your links a bingofuel
>> type reactor using tungsten electrodes that hopefully would last much
>> longer would likely produce OH rather than H and carbon monoxide,
>> what do you think?
>>
>> Also water is strange indeed in that a pyramid or orgone accumulator
>> changes it and these simple changes could make for water that breaks
>> up more easily.  I would love to know what results you demonstrated
>> with the totally juvenile memory free water you put back together
>> from the OH? 
>>
>> Sorry to hear about your neck fracture, I have a similar issue and it
>> is extremely painful and debilitating at times.
>>
>> Mick
>>
>>
>> On 11/7/2018 4:15 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>  
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/7/2018 6:06 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Jakob Wall! & all other researchers on here need to read the Whole
>>>> Story as to why I no longer have a research lab.  Jakob, I'm sorry
>>>> I did not reveal to you the BEST in my opinion of methods of
>>>> producing hydrogen gas for I felt it was a little too advanced and
>>>> difficult for you to experiment with.  See:
>>>> https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en .   There is a
>>>> very long story behind this US Patent and a hell of a lot of
>>>> research. The quest for a very inexpensive method of splitting
>>>> water has been the Holy Grail of  cheap energy.   In addition to
>>>> the research papers and links that I gave to you, here are some
>>>> more to dwell on.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.researchgate.net/post/At_what_temperature_water_will_decompose_to_Oxygen_and_Hydrogen
>>>>
>>>> https://www.quora.com/Does-water-break-down-into-oxygen-and-hydrogen-at-high-temperatures-If-so-then-at-what-temperature
>>>>
>>>> https://www.quora.com/How-much-water-can-you-split-into-hydrogen-and-oxygen-using-electrolysis-with-one-kilowatt-hour-of-electricity
>>>>
>>>> http://www.redrok.com/hion96a1.htm
>>>>
>>>> https://www.nature.com/articles/nplants201741   Please read
>>>> carefully about the play of Nickel in this approach!
>>>>
>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_splitting
>>>>
>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water-gas_shift_reaction    I owned
>>>> 77 acres of land in Eureka Springs, AR where they still had the old
>>>> water gas generator and gas storage facility.
>>>>
>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decarboxylation
>>>>
>>>> https://phys.org/news/2018-02-uncovers-mechanism-water-splitting-catalyst.html
>>>>
>>>> https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/new-catalyst-could-split-water-cheaply/
>>>>
>>>> https://www.technologyreview.com/s/512996/a-cheaper-way-to-make-hydrogen-from-water/
>>>>
>>>> "*SUPER STEAM* - A Tesla conference in Colorado surfaces new Super
>>>> Steam Technology (SST). Leonard Dorsett and friends from Texas
>>>> share strikingly similar views to Aquarian Agency Ltd. They have
>>>> technology which produces steam instantly at up to 3,000F without a
>>>> boiler and with 60% savings in fuel over traditional boilers.
>>>> Nitrogen rich, it can put out gasoline fires and treat many waste
>>>> problems. Of major importance to Aquarian, this nitrogen-rich steam
>>>> will help to produce heat and Aquastone at considerable savings."
>>>>
>>>> For further information on Aquarian Agency Ltd. they can be
>>>> contacted at 38 Weir Rd, Wimbledon, London SW19 SUG, England or on
>>>> Internet at <aquarian ocign.ape.org>. *_SUPER STEAM TECHNOLOGY PART 2_*
>>>>
>>>> Leonard Dorsett (PO Box 365, Grapevine, TX 76092) demonstrated his
>>>> Super Steam Technology at the 1994 International Tesla Symposium.
>>>> SST is a system for producing steam at any temperature or pressure
>>>> independently and instantly without the need for a conventional
>>>> boiler. It can instantly produce steam of any temperature from hot
>>>> water at 180F to super heated steam at over 3000F, while pressures
>>>> can vary from 1PSI to 3000PSI with airflow volumes of 1CFM up to
>>>> over 2000CFM. The system operates on propane, methane, petrol,
>>>> kerosene, methanol, diesel, hydrogen or just about anything else
>>>> that bums and converts virtually 100% of the fuel into usable
>>>> energy. (Note: The person in the picture is Norman Wootan of MRA fame)
>>>>
>>>> This all sounds great, but how does it work? The basis of the unit
>>>> is a specially designed open throat chamber with controlled air,
>>>> water and fuel interaction and a high voltage ignition resulting in
>>>> a direct fire process establishing thermal zones. This creates a
>>>> stoichiometric condition resulting in a full spectrum of steam
>>>> product. Now comes the interesting part At the increased
>>>> temperatures of steam, disassociation occurs. (Could this be a clue
>>>> to running cars on water??) The hydrogen and oxygen reacts causing
>>>> an exponential increase of energy resulting in super heated steam.
>>>> A similar superheat process was addressed by Tesla in the October
>>>> 12, 1911 publication of the "Engineering News Record".
>>>>
>>>> Applications of the SST system include a much more economical way
>>>> of producing electricity as no conventional boiler is needed. It
>>>> will also be an ideal low cost method for heating and cooling homes
>>>> and businesses. Small portable units can be developed for home use,
>>>> such as steam cleaning, and insect and ant removal, without the
>>>> dangers of insecticides. The system can also be used for low cost
>>>> purification of polluted water or sewerage and can also convert
>>>> salt water into drinking water both quickly and inexpensively.
>>>> Other uses are in fire fighting applications, ice and snow removal
>>>> from roads, etc. and sterilization and nurturing of soil for
>>>> agriculture where contamination has occurred.
>>>>
>>>> I had designed a method of making hydrogen from carbon & water
>>>> vapor using the Tesla Atomic Bombardment method of high frequency
>>>> inside of spherical inclosure like this experiments with the carbon
>>>> button lamp globes.   After working with Leonard Dorsett and his
>>>> Super Steam Project, I chose to use the Water Shift Process
>>>> instead.  A side note is needed here!  The Super Steam Process was
>>>> a result of Professor Brown studying the method the German's used
>>>> for torpedo propulsion from WWI.  Acetylene Gas and sea water
>>>> produced an exothermic reaction generating Super Steam. Brown built
>>>> several reactors and tested them in the Tulsa area to break (down
>>>> hole) the parafin deposits to release crude oil.
>>>>
>>>> The Chemical equation for the reaction in the US Patent:
>>>> https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en
>>>>
>>>> *(6C + 12 H2O  = 6CO2 + 24H) *
>>>>
>>>> Hydrogen Reactor Development
>>>>
>>>> * *
>>>>
>>>> Original concept design was a high voltage, high frequency resonant
>>>> device that utilized carbon water reaction with the feedstock being
>>>> in the form of graphite rod stock.  This unit was designed for
>>>> vehicle application and had too many limitations to be used for
>>>> mass hydrogen generation.  This type reactor is very effective at
>>>> hydrogen production since it targets the water vapor molecule at
>>>> MRI frequencies, which breaks the bonding, allowing the carbon to
>>>> latch onto the oxygen atoms leaving the hydrogen free. This device
>>>> was a closed system that used a simple CO2/hydrogen separation
>>>> stage that enabled the hydrogen to be feed to an internal
>>>> combustion engine.
>>>>
>>>> * *
>>>>
>>>> *To allow for a sustained high mass flow of hydrogen gas output,
>>>> reactor design took on a radical change.  By incorporating the
>>>> Ranque/Hilsch, Counter Flow Implosion Vortex Principle, and
>>>> continuous high mass flow and gas separation were achieved in one
>>>> stage of operation.  Feedstock for this type reactor could be any
>>>> carbon-based material that could be put into a powder form. 
>>>> Highest carbon content of the feedstock provides for the most
>>>> efficient hydrogen production with the least undesirable output
>>>> material.*
>>>>
>>>> * *
>>>>
>>>> *Super high temperature operating regime was chosen to be above
>>>> 2500 C for the purpose of producing atomic hydrogen in the
>>>> process.  The original reactor operated at temperatures that easily
>>>> gasified basic carbon into a plasma state (>10,000 F) more easily
>>>> allowing the production of hydrogen from the stoichiometric feed
>>>> stock ratios.*
>>>>
>>>> *
>>>> *
>>>>
>>>> **
>>>>
>>>> I sold one of my Patents (Sonodiffuser) and paid for my 52 acres of
>>>> land and built a 5200 sq. Ft. lab the do the Prototype machining
>>>> and Proof of Concept testing for GAZPROM, Moscow in 2005. A $1.2
>>>> million investment and they got the rights to the process and I got
>>>> the beautiful Research Lab all paid in full. I was a self employed
>>>> Contractor in Dallas working with HVAC, Electrical and Electronics
>>>> Maintenance so had to commute 170 miles/day and only had the week
>>>> ends for my time! Having to mow grass and maintane the 52 acres
>>>> took all my time and when I suffered a neck fracture in 2012, had
>>>> to retire. Liquidated the entire facility and sold it off. Moved to
>>>> Dallas then to South Louisiana where I now do a lot of relaxing and
>>>> fishing!
>>>>
>>>> Hector and ALL, I did my time in the Barrel so now I will just
>>>> contribute to the dialog inorder to assist any research you may be
>>>> doing within my area of experitise!     BTW! I have been out to
>>>> pasture for a long time now, so no BULL offense!  As Hector knows,
>>>> "It fits"! Lol
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes! Hector, I will wear my Border Patrol Hat when you come visit
>>>> from PR!  Lol
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11/6/2018 8:52 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> By the way ... i can hit mega millions or the power ball  . i
>>>>> never will not have a lab i can work in,  that is worst than death
>>>>> , you have no idea of the technology that had being lost by the
>>>>> greedy fucking bastards fucking my life , they will loose all they
>>>>> have  "soon" because it had being engineered that way by
>>>>> accumulative bad karma, i have another lab they will never reach
>>>>> or be able to intercept or destroy and that will decide their fate
>>>>> ..... they will be fucked hard !
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> (H)   
>>>>>
>>>>> ---In [email protected], <mkjekyll@...> wrote :
>>>>>
>>>>> Cmon Hector,
>>>>>
>>>>> Bad taste!
>>>>>
>>>>> The man had a more serious lab than anyone else here and his work
>>>>> speaks for itself.  Maybe he has gained the fortune he desired
>>>>> through R&D and now shitting in tall cotton or gone fishing
>>>>> reaping the rewards of retirement. Notwithstanding is still kind
>>>>> enough to help point us in the right directions around here.
>>>>>
>>>>> "*Funny–I can look back on a life of achievement, on challenges
>>>>> met, competitors bested, obstacles overcome. I’ve accomplished
>>>>> more than most men, and without the use of my legs. What?What
>>>>> makes a man, Mr. Lebowski?"*
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/6/2018 8:04 AM, arkresearch@... <mailto:arkresearch@...>
>>>>> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>      
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Dar n ! a Scientist inventor with no lab is like a breeding
>>>>>>     bull with no balls !
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Balls Cow GIF - Balls Cow WingDangDoodle GIFs
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     ---In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>,
>>>>>>     <nwootan@...> <mailto:nwootan@...> wrote :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Jacob! You asked me a question and I gave you my opinion! 
>>>>>>     I'm totally retired at 80 years old and have no lab to
>>>>>>     experiment in!  Your quote; I heard once a phrase from a
>>>>>>     researcher who said. '' Slow down boy, we get paid for
>>>>>>     llooking for solutions, not to find them!''   That certainly
>>>>>>     does not apply to me for I have shared all with the folks on
>>>>>>     this site.  I find you statement very interesting:  Technics
>>>>>>     that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours with usual amount of
>>>>>>     gas looks to me extremely inefficient.   ??????        Care
>>>>>>     to share where you saw the power of a permanent magnet being
>>>>>>     used up!   We all here on this site share what ever knowledge
>>>>>>     we have on the various subjects not seeking any monetary gain
>>>>>>     in any way! That is my approach!   I just contribute to the
>>>>>>     dialog when I run across something interesting and think it
>>>>>>     will assist you guys!   Norm
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     On 11/3/2018 11:32 PM, Jakob Wall wall_jakob@...
>>>>>>     <mailto:wall_jakob@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>          
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         Thanks Norman,
>>>>>>>         But i actually asced for ''most efficient way'' to split
>>>>>>>         water known to you!
>>>>>>>         I realize there are a lot of different technigues to do
>>>>>>>         just that.
>>>>>>>         And yes i realize you could give me a rather complex
>>>>>>>         answer. But instead i hope for a
>>>>>>>         rather easy and reproductive answer since i am looking
>>>>>>>         forward to solve my enerrgy
>>>>>>>         problems i just can not live with the momentary (sad and
>>>>>>>         very stupid energy situation)
>>>>>>>         I am still not giving up becouse of a couple mistakes
>>>>>>>         and misunderstandings.
>>>>>>>         If i would be a car dealer and you would ask me for a
>>>>>>>         most efficient car available on the market
>>>>>>>         i would for sure not recommend a Prius, since there are
>>>>>>>         a lot of cars with better fuel economie
>>>>>>>         even without being a hybrid and without additional cost
>>>>>>>         like batterys,e-motors and a bunch added ECU's
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours with
>>>>>>>         usual amount of gas looks to me extremely
>>>>>>>         inefficient.
>>>>>>>         Also very expensive HHO-Garage products with output of
>>>>>>>         1,6 ltr/min.
>>>>>>>         Come on, 6 rusty nails and a old car batery does this
>>>>>>>         job, no need to spend 1600 bucks on it.
>>>>>>>         I honestly expected solide advise or a honest NO way
>>>>>>>         boy, i just talking around.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. ''
>>>>>>>         Slow down boy, we get paid for llooking for
>>>>>>>         solutions, not to find them!'' That shoked me deeply and
>>>>>>>         even if i get 150 years old, i will not forget it.
>>>>>>>         Thats true treason on mankind and deciving the people. I
>>>>>>>         really hope nobody on this forum only care
>>>>>>>         about what he/she will be doing tomorrow.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         Jakob
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         --------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>         On Sun, 10/28/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>>>>         <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery
>>>>>>>         To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]>, "Bert Pool"
>>>>>>>         <BertPool512@...> <mailto:BertPool512@...>, "Bob
>>>>>>>         Paddock" <bob.paddock@...> <mailto:bob.paddock@...>,
>>>>>>>         "joel mcclain" <joel_76670@...> <mailto:joel_76670@...>,
>>>>>>>         "Jon Gentry" <jongen422@...> <mailto:jongen422@...>,
>>>>>>>         "Mbking42" <mbking42@...> <mailto:mbking42@...>, "Toby
>>>>>>>         Grotz" <wireless2@...> <mailto:wireless2@...>, "Phil
>>>>>>>         Rembold" <prembold@...> <mailto:prembold@...>, "Angel
>>>>>>>         Alvarez" <angel@...> <mailto:angel@...>, "Fredric
>>>>>>>         Fletcher" <ffletcher@...> <mailto:ffletcher@...>
>>>>>>>         Received: Sunday, October 28, 2018, 9:44 AM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>          
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         Jacob!  That would be a rather complex answer
>>>>>>>         but here is your
>>>>>>>         starting point!
>>>>>>>         https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct-thermomagnetic-splitting-of-water-.html   
>>>>>>>         After having been heavily involved in the COLD FUSION
>>>>>>>         Research
>>>>>>>         back in the 70s and 80s I quickly settled o0n the best
>>>>>>>         catalyst in
>>>>>>>         electrolytic cells which is pure nickel. I still have
>>>>>>>         the cell
>>>>>>>         used in the Elemental Replication experiments.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm    
>>>>>>>         The hidden
>>>>>>>         part of this research is the use of a nickel component
>>>>>>>         in the
>>>>>>>         combustion chamber. Bosch developed 90,000V ignition
>>>>>>>         systems to
>>>>>>>         enable water injection in gas engine which high
>>>>>>>         lighted the
>>>>>>>         Graneau HV decomposition of water via HVDC
>>>>>>>         discharge!
>>>>>>>         My magnetic Battery when run as an electrolytic cell
>>>>>>>         to produce
>>>>>>>         hydrogen does produce a huge amount of hydrogen gas as
>>>>>>>         shown by
>>>>>>>         the Dr. Ehrenhaft document.  I would tell you to
>>>>>>>         pursue the super
>>>>>>>         high Tesla magnetic flux and nickel electrodes in an
>>>>>>>         electrolytic
>>>>>>>         cell.  The major obstacle to be overcome is the rapid
>>>>>>>         collection
>>>>>>>         of ions from solution by the 1.3 Tesla flux across a
>>>>>>>         .020"
>>>>>>>         mechanical gap which quickly takes the cell into a
>>>>>>>         super-conduction mode which takes out the driving DC
>>>>>>>         power supply.
>>>>>>>         You can flush the magnetic gaps with distilled water
>>>>>>>         and the gaps
>>>>>>>         will show in the meg-ohm range then go to zero ohms
>>>>>>>         after a short
>>>>>>>         period of running, the gathered ions totally short
>>>>>>>         cell. During
>>>>>>>         the brief runs there is a huge amount of hydrogen gas
>>>>>>>         produced 
>>>>>>>         which I burned off as it was generated.  Much can be
>>>>>>>         said about
>>>>>>>         driving the cell with high frequencies as the Myers
>>>>>>>         research
>>>>>>>         showed.  Our friend up in Canada at George Wiseman,
>>>>>>>         Eagle Research
>>>>>>>         is running well ahead of the crowd on the production
>>>>>>>         of H-H-O.
>>>>>>>         Just for giggles!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         16 October
>>>>>>>         1996
>>>>>>>         To: Hal
>>>>>>>         Fox,  Fusion Facts
>>>>>>>         Elemental
>>>>>>>         Replication ?
>>>>>>>          
>>>>>>>               Around mid
>>>>>>>         September
>>>>>>>         I put together an
>>>>>>>         electrolysis cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold
>>>>>>>         Fusion Cell
>>>>>>>         with the goal of
>>>>>>>         exploring the possibilities of making what is
>>>>>>>         termed “Pristine
>>>>>>>         Water”.   This water
>>>>>>>         which will be used by Homeopaths
>>>>>>>         will have had all memory or information
>>>>>>>         removed.  This is accomplished by
>>>>>>>         recombining monatomic
>>>>>>>         hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated in a
>>>>>>>         properly
>>>>>>>         designed cell.  This is
>>>>>>>         the ultimate in purity since this is
>>>>>>>         water with conditions at the time of original
>>>>>>>         creation.  “Holly Water”is a term
>>>>>>>         coined by my dear
>>>>>>>         friend and fellow researcher Joe Tyls of
>>>>>>>         Vancouver, BC.   After several weeks of
>>>>>>>         successful operation
>>>>>>>         producing water that had all the earmarks of a
>>>>>>>         true “pristine
>>>>>>>         water” a fellow
>>>>>>>         researcher suggested using an alternate
>>>>>>>         electrolyte.   A solution was selected
>>>>>>>         that contained 77
>>>>>>>         colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the
>>>>>>>         easiest
>>>>>>>         assimilated into the
>>>>>>>         body.   With the
>>>>>>>         electrolyte changed the
>>>>>>>         cell was put back into operation as before with a
>>>>>>>         nice
>>>>>>>         recombination burn and
>>>>>>>         production of the sought after “pristine
>>>>>>>         water”.                                                                                                                                     
>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>             After about an
>>>>>>>         hour of
>>>>>>>         operation the cell
>>>>>>>         went absolutely “nuts” with the temperature
>>>>>>>         rapidly climbing
>>>>>>>         to boiling point
>>>>>>>         and the current out of sight. 
>>>>>>>         When the
>>>>>>>         cell was opened we found a deep red sludge deposit
>>>>>>>         which
>>>>>>>         shorted the cell
>>>>>>>         plates.   Our first
>>>>>>>         thought was that the
>>>>>>>         electrolytic action precipitated out the colloidal
>>>>>>>         minerals
>>>>>>>         which caused the
>>>>>>>         deposit found.   The 
>>>>>>>         electrolyte was allowed
>>>>>>>         to settle out the
>>>>>>>         precipitate.   After 
>>>>>>>         decanting off,  the clear electrolyte
>>>>>>>         was
>>>>>>>         returned to the
>>>>>>>         cell for another run. Again the cell operated
>>>>>>>         normally for
>>>>>>>         about an hour with a
>>>>>>>         normal recombination burn and recovery of the
>>>>>>>         water being
>>>>>>>         consumed by the cell
>>>>>>>         in the splitting action.   Again
>>>>>>>         the cell
>>>>>>>         temperature and current mirrored the first
>>>>>>>         run. 
>>>>>>>         Again the cell contained the same amount of
>>>>>>>         sludge
>>>>>>>         residue.   This process
>>>>>>>         was repeated ten (10) times
>>>>>>>         with exactly the same results.  
>>>>>>>         All of
>>>>>>>         the sludge was carefully dried and weighed on an
>>>>>>>         electronic
>>>>>>>         scale with a five
>>>>>>>         decimal
>>>>>>>         resolution.                     
>>>>>>>         The cell plates and all hardware were
>>>>>>>         weighed to
>>>>>>>         determine any loss of
>>>>>>>         mass that may contribute to the mass gain observed
>>>>>>>         in the
>>>>>>>         sludge.  Five hundred
>>>>>>>         (500) ml of the original
>>>>>>>         electrolyte solution used in the cell was vacuum
>>>>>>>         distilled to
>>>>>>>         determine the
>>>>>>>         exact mass of colloidal minerals
>>>>>>>         contained. 
>>>>>>>         When all factors were considered we came
>>>>>>>         out with a
>>>>>>>         mass gain of  48 gm
>>>>>>>         which cannot be explained by
>>>>>>>         conventional
>>>>>>>         electrolysis.                      
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             After talking
>>>>>>>         to Dr.
>>>>>>>         Robert Bass and Hal
>>>>>>>         Fox I learned of a patent that has been filed on
>>>>>>>         the
>>>>>>>         transmutation of elements
>>>>>>>         in the cold fusion cell which is the process that
>>>>>>>         Dr. John
>>>>>>>         Bockris has been so
>>>>>>>         active in.   Both Dr.
>>>>>>>         Bass and Hal Fox
>>>>>>>         stated that what I was observing is not the same
>>>>>>>         as the
>>>>>>>         transmutation observed
>>>>>>>         in the cold fusion cell since I have a overall
>>>>>>>         mass gain and
>>>>>>>         not a lateral
>>>>>>>         movement of elements in the periodic table toward
>>>>>>>         lighter
>>>>>>>         elements with a
>>>>>>>         resulting heat release.  This
>>>>>>>         unusual
>>>>>>>         cell operation has caused quite a reaction in the
>>>>>>>         scientific
>>>>>>>         community.  At this
>>>>>>>         time I have built a complete new cell
>>>>>>>         with every possible factor which could possibly
>>>>>>>         explain the
>>>>>>>         mass gain
>>>>>>>         considered and documented.  The
>>>>>>>         ten (10)
>>>>>>>         consecutive runs on the new cell will be completed
>>>>>>>         soon and a
>>>>>>>         report will be
>>>>>>>         forthcoming.   What is
>>>>>>>         interesting about
>>>>>>>         this phenomenon is that when an eleventh run was
>>>>>>>         made with the
>>>>>>>         original
>>>>>>>         electrolyte exactly the same amount of residue was
>>>>>>>         recovered
>>>>>>>         as in the previous
>>>>>>>         ten
>>>>>>>         runs.                                                                       
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>          
>>>>>>>         Since
>>>>>>>         the same electrolyte is reused each time with only
>>>>>>>         distilled
>>>>>>>         water being added
>>>>>>>         to replace the volume lost by the removal of the
>>>>>>>         solids and
>>>>>>>         the water recovered
>>>>>>>         by the recombination burn we are hard pressed to
>>>>>>>         explain the
>>>>>>>         observed
>>>>>>>         phenomenon.     The
>>>>>>>         electrolyte appears
>>>>>>>         stronger in mineral concentration and shows no
>>>>>>>         sign of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         depletion.                                
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>            After conferring
>>>>>>>         with
>>>>>>>         Joe Tyls we arrived at
>>>>>>>         the conclusion that the 77 colloidal minerals
>>>>>>>         contained in the
>>>>>>>         electrolyte
>>>>>>>         provide the atomic templates needed for the
>>>>>>>         monatomic hydrogen
>>>>>>>         (father of all
>>>>>>>         the elements) to replicate selected elements in
>>>>>>>         this exotic
>>>>>>>         mixture.  If you
>>>>>>>         subscribe to the theories of the late
>>>>>>>         Walter Russell and his explanation of the octave
>>>>>>>         based
>>>>>>>         periodic table with
>>>>>>>         monatonic hydrogen being what he describes as
>>>>>>>         hydrons
>>>>>>>         (precursor to hydrogen)
>>>>>>>         then it is possible for the replication of
>>>>>>>         elements directly
>>>>>>>         from energy input
>>>>>>>         alone.  This is how all
>>>>>>>         matter was
>>>>>>>         created in the beginning as described by
>>>>>>>         Schappeller in “The
>>>>>>>         Physics of the
>>>>>>>         Primary State of Matter”.    I
>>>>>>>         will keep
>>>>>>>         all informed as to our progress and findings in
>>>>>>>         this very
>>>>>>>         intriguing venture.
>>>>>>>          
>>>>>>>         Norman
>>>>>>>         Wootan
>>>>>>>         P.O.
>>>>>>>         Box 141049
>>>>>>>         Dallas,
>>>>>>>         TX 75214
>>>>>>>         (214)
>>>>>>>         360-0865
>>>>>>>          
>>>>>>>          
>>>>>>>         CC:  Gene Mallove,
>>>>>>>         Infinite
>>>>>>>         Energy
>>>>>>>         CC:  Dr. John
>>>>>>>         Bockris, Texas
>>>>>>>         A/M
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         On 10/28/2018 1:01 AM,
>>>>>>>         Jakob Wall
>>>>>>>         wall_jakob@... <mailto:wall_jakob@...>
>>>>>>>         [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>          
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         Thanks Norman,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         BTW, what is the most effective water split
>>>>>>>         device that
>>>>>>>         you ever put you hands on?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         As HHO researcher for dekades you should be
>>>>>>>         able to point
>>>>>>>         us directly to the most effective known!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         Please be specific about reconstruction of the
>>>>>>>         same, since
>>>>>>>         we are in public domain it will become public
>>>>>>>         knowledge
>>>>>>>         and public good. I assume you intend nothing
>>>>>>>         else,rigth ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         --------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         On Sat, 10/27/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>>>>         <mailto:nwootan@...>
>>>>>>>         [EVGRAY]
>>>>>>>         <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>>         wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's
>>>>>>>         Magnetic
>>>>>>>         Battery [3 Attachments]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         To: "Bert Pool" <BertPool512@...> <mailto:BertPool512@...>,
>>>>>>>         "Bob
>>>>>>>         Paddock" <bob.paddock@...> <mailto:bob.paddock@...>,
>>>>>>>         "joel mcclain"
>>>>>>>         <joel_76670@...> <mailto:joel_76670@...>,
>>>>>>>         "Jon Gentry"
>>>>>>>         <jongen422@...> <mailto:jongen422@...>,
>>>>>>>         "Lane Wootan"
>>>>>>>         <lanewootan@...> <mailto:lanewootan@...>,
>>>>>>>         "Mbking42"
>>>>>>>         <mbking42@...> <mailto:mbking42@...>,
>>>>>>>         "Toby Grotz"
>>>>>>>         <wireless2@...> <mailto:wireless2@...>,
>>>>>>>         "Phil Rembold"
>>>>>>>         <prembold@...> <mailto:prembold@...>,
>>>>>>>         "Angel Alvarez"
>>>>>>>         <angel@...> <mailto:angel@...>,
>>>>>>>         "Fredric Fletcher"
>>>>>>>         <ffletcher@...> <mailto:ffletcher@...>,
>>>>>>>         [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         To understand the unwinding of a thread
>>>>>>>         leading
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         to Magnetic
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         Generating Hydrogen and this Magnetic Battery,
>>>>>>>         we have
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         to dust off
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         our  9th grade Chemistry Books!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         http://www.rexresearch.com/ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm     
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         I guess Dr.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         Ehrenhaft was the first to propose a Magnetic
>>>>>>>         Current.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         (Jon
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         Gentry, Your liquid metal vortex helix).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         https://revolution-green.com/can-electrolysis-powered-magnets/      
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         Ah! Ha!  more on Magnetic Currents!!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         https://www.labmanager.com/white-papers-and-application-notes/2010/05/resistivity-conductivity-measurement-of-purified-water#.W9So9uJRc2w
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         https://www.askiitians.com/forums/Physical-Chemistry/19/19074/electro-che
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpotential
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         https://www.quora.com/Why-is-oxygen-molecule-paramagnetic-although-it-does-not-contain-any-unpaired-electron
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251580541_The_effect_of_magnetic_force_on_hydrogen_production_efficiency_in_water_electrolysis
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         http://www.physicscentral.com/experiment/physicsathome/electricwhirlpool.cfm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         http://www.linux-host.org/energy/bmagpump.htm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         Now Jon Gentry you have your liquid metal pump
>>>>>>>         so
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         that you can
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         make the helix tube Vortex! 
>>>>>>>         Ferricpetacarbonyl or
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         micro fine neo
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         powder to provide the liquid metal for pump
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         circuit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         Lots of reading here!     Please think
>>>>>>>         about the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         ramifications of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         a Magnetic Current as proposed by Dr.
>>>>>>>         Ehrenhaft!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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Mick! To answer the rest of your questions:  In that ARC process you 
have to use carbon rods to yield the carbon monoxide & hydrogen.  
(carbon source) (arc is heat source).

Holy Water was interesting part of the Elemental Replication experiment. 
See:

*Elemental Replication ?*

**

Around mid September I put together an electrolysis cell similar to the 
Miles Nickel Cold Fusion Cell with the goal of exploring the 
possibilities of making what is termed “Pristine Water”.This water which 
will be used by Homeopaths will have had all memory or information 
removed.This is accomplished by recombining monatomic hydrogen and 
monatomic oxygen as generated in a properly designed cell.This is the 
ultimate in purity since this is water with conditions at the time of 
original creation.“Wholy Water”is a term coined by my dear friend and 
fellow researcher Joe Tyls of Vancouver, BC.After several weeks of 
successful operation producing water that had all the earmarks of a true 
“pristine water” a fellow researcher suggested using an alternate 
electrolyte.A solution was selected that contained 77 colloidal minerals 
as found in plants that are the easiest assimilated into the body.With 
the electrolyte changed the cell was put back into operation as before 
with a nice recombination burn and production of the sought after 
“pristine water”.


The water produced in the recombination burn of the H-H-O was collected 
from a silica glass condenser into a silica glass beaker for sampling. 
When you flipped several CCs of the water into your mouth and tried to 
swallow, there was nothing there.  Hmmmm!  We immediately tested the 
viscosity and surface tension of the water and found it to be far below 
human blood which means that the water diffused directly into the 
capillaries around the tongue therefore nothing there to swallow.  The 
two Doctor who were there were amazed.   To prove the theory as to 
information carried by water, we collected a sample of several CCs into 
a plastic lab cup instead of the silica glass beaker. When you flipped 
the several CCs into your mouth you had to immediately spit it out for 
it was pure taste of plastic. This water picks up signature of anything 
it comes into contact with.  That is why the Homeopathic Doctors wanted 
it for making their tinctures.    (signature of a healing agent).     We 
had all the necessary instruments to evaluate the Pristine water. See: 
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemorheology

http://www.dynalenelabs.com/testing-services/thermal-testing/viscosity-rheology/?gclid=CjwKCAiA_ZTfBRBjEiwAN6YG4SdHu5bWZ9yHLBM9VNQ0TLl4tB1hOqMvR_dOEHNbGX6k_kDHHtb5xhoCgIgQAvD_BwE 
          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tensiometer

https://hydramotion.com/en/technical/units-of-viscosity

I made an offer to the Doctors present that a small unit for production 
of a liter/day of Pristine Water via complete unit built of quartz glass 
could be had for $5,000. Apparently they were not that enthused as we 
thought!  Oh! Well!

I built numerous Pyramids of all sizes and the Orgone Accumulators and 
even the Cloud Buster.   The pyramid experiments were very interesting 
for real effects were shown.   Never tested whether water would break 
after treatment by either Orgone  or pyramid.    The complete 
description of the 4 inch cell is in the Elemental replication Part Two. 
See:


Cell Description

The electrolysis cell is designed to hold one (1) liter of electrolyte 
and operate at approximately 150 watt power level for the production of 
monatomic hydrogen andmonatomic oxygen which is burned back to pure 
water and collected in a glass condenser.Cell container is schedule 40 
PVC pipe section 6 inches long with bottom cap cemented on.The top of 
the cell has a 4 inch female thread adapter cemented on to provide 
access to the interior via a male threaded plug which has the gas outlet 
port and two electrolyte fill ports to provide for replacement of lost 
electrolyte on the fly for continuos operation.Positive and negative 
terminals are provided for external connection of the power supply leads 
to the internal anode- cathode stack.

The cell plate stack consist of 8 anode plates and 8 cathode plates of 
the following sizes constructed from 316L stainless steel of 22 ga. 
thickness.

4 ea.3” X 3” plates,2 ea. 3” X 2.75”plates,2 ea. 3” X 2.5”plates,2 ea. 
3” X 2.25” plates,2 ea. 3” X 2” plates,2 ea. 3” X 1.75” plates, and2 ea. 
3” X 1.5” plates.The plates are drilled and stacked with alternating 
anode and cathode plates spaced 1/8” apart which makes a cylindrical 
shaped array which fits nicely inside of the 4” ID PVCcell 
container.Electrical leads are braided copper of #10 size which are 
covered by shrink tubing to cover conductive surface as they pass 
through the electrolyte to the cell terminal bolts.All electrical 
surfaces other than the anode and cathode plates are carefully covered 
with PVC cement to prevent deterioration from electrolyte contact.Please 
note that if allowed to come into contact with “charged” surfaces 
monatomic hydrogen and monatonic oxygen will imediately form into their 
usual occuring state as diatomic H2 and O2 molecules.


On 11/8/2018 4:29 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Hi Norm,
>
> The catalysts are very interesting.  Iron Cobalt and Nickel all 
> ferromagnetic but at different spins.
>
> Correct me if I am wrong but based on reading your links a bingofuel 
> type reactor using tungsten electrodes that hopefully would last much 
> longer would likely produce OH rather than H and carbon monoxide, what 
> do you think?
>
> Also water is strange indeed in that a pyramid or orgone accumulator 
> changes it and these simple changes could make for water that breaks 
> up more easily.  I would love to know what results you demonstrated 
> with the totally juvenile memory free water you put back together from 
> the OH?
>
> Sorry to hear about your neck fracture, I have a similar issue and it 
> is extremely painful and debilitating at times.
>
> Mick
>
>
> On 11/7/2018 4:15 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 11/7/2018 6:06 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>
>>> Jakob Wall! & all other researchers on here need to read the Whole 
>>> Story as to why I no longer have a research lab.  Jakob, I'm sorry I 
>>> did not reveal to you the BEST in my opinion of methods of producing 
>>> hydrogen gas for I felt it was a little too advanced and difficult 
>>> for you to experiment with.  See: 
>>> https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en .   There is a very 
>>> long story behind this US Patent and a hell of a lot of research. 
>>> The quest for a very inexpensive method of splitting water has been 
>>> the Holy Grail of  cheap energy.   In addition to the research 
>>> papers and links that I gave to you, here are some more to dwell on.
>>>
>>> https://www.researchgate.net/post/At_what_temperature_water_will_decompose_to_Oxygen_and_Hydrogen
>>>
>>> https://www.quora.com/Does-water-break-down-into-oxygen-and-hydrogen-at-high-temperatures-If-so-then-at-what-temperature
>>>
>>> https://www.quora.com/How-much-water-can-you-split-into-hydrogen-and-oxygen-using-electrolysis-with-one-kilowatt-hour-of-electricity
>>>
>>> http://www.redrok.com/hion96a1.htm
>>>
>>> https://www.nature.com/articles/nplants201741 Please read carefully 
>>> about the play of Nickel in this approach!
>>>
>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_splitting
>>>
>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water-gas_shift_reaction I owned 77 
>>> acres of land in Eureka Springs, AR where they still had the old 
>>> water gas generator and gas storage facility.
>>>
>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decarboxylation
>>>
>>> https://phys.org/news/2018-02-uncovers-mechanism-water-splitting-catalyst.html
>>>
>>> https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/new-catalyst-could-split-water-cheaply/
>>>
>>> https://www.technologyreview.com/s/512996/a-cheaper-way-to-make-hydrogen-from-water/
>>>
>>> "*SUPER STEAM* - A Tesla conference in Colorado surfaces new Super 
>>> Steam Technology (SST). Leonard Dorsett and friends from Texas share 
>>> strikingly similar views to Aquarian Agency Ltd. They have 
>>> technology which produces steam instantly at up to 3,000F without a 
>>> boiler and with 60% savings in fuel over traditional boilers. 
>>> Nitrogen rich, it can put out gasoline fires and treat many waste 
>>> problems. Of major importance to Aquarian, this nitrogen-rich steam 
>>> will help to produce heat and Aquastone at considerable savings."
>>>
>>> For further information on Aquarian Agency Ltd. they can be 
>>> contacted at 38 Weir Rd, Wimbledon, London SW19 SUG, England or on 
>>> Internet at <aquarian ocign.ape.org>. *_SUPER STEAM TECHNOLOGY PART 2_*
>>>
>>> Leonard Dorsett (PO Box 365, Grapevine, TX 76092) demonstrated his 
>>> Super Steam Technology at the 1994 International Tesla Symposium. 
>>> SST is a system for producing steam at any temperature or pressure 
>>> independently and instantly without the need for a conventional 
>>> boiler. It can instantly produce steam of any temperature from hot 
>>> water at 180F to super heated steam at over 3000F, while pressures 
>>> can vary from 1PSI to 3000PSI with airflow volumes of 1CFM up to 
>>> over 2000CFM. The system operates on propane, methane, petrol, 
>>> kerosene, methanol, diesel, hydrogen or just about anything else 
>>> that bums and converts virtually 100% of the fuel into usable 
>>> energy. (Note: The person in the picture is Norman Wootan of MRA fame)
>>>
>>> This all sounds great, but how does it work? The basis of the unit 
>>> is a specially designed open throat chamber with controlled air, 
>>> water and fuel interaction and a high voltage ignition resulting in 
>>> a direct fire process establishing thermal zones. This creates a 
>>> stoichiometric condition resulting in a full spectrum of steam 
>>> product. Now comes the interesting part At the increased 
>>> temperatures of steam, disassociation occurs. (Could this be a clue 
>>> to running cars on water??) The hydrogen and oxygen reacts causing 
>>> an exponential increase of energy resulting in super heated steam. A 
>>> similar superheat process was addressed by Tesla in the October 12, 
>>> 1911 publication of the "Engineering News Record".
>>>
>>> Applications of the SST system include a much more economical way of 
>>> producing electricity as no conventional boiler is needed. It will 
>>> also be an ideal low cost method for heating and cooling homes and 
>>> businesses. Small portable units can be developed for home use, such 
>>> as steam cleaning, and insect and ant removal, without the dangers 
>>> of insecticides. The system can also be used for low cost 
>>> purification of polluted water or sewerage and can also convert salt 
>>> water into drinking water both quickly and inexpensively. Other uses 
>>> are in fire fighting applications, ice and snow removal from roads, 
>>> etc. and sterilization and nurturing of soil for agriculture where 
>>> contamination has occurred.
>>>
>>> I had designed a method of making hydrogen from carbon & water vapor 
>>> using the Tesla Atomic Bombardment method of high frequency inside 
>>> of spherical inclosure like this experiments with the carbon button 
>>> lamp globes.   After working with Leonard Dorsett and his Super 
>>> Steam Project, I chose to use the Water Shift Process instead.  A 
>>> side note is needed here!  The Super Steam Process was a result of 
>>> Professor Brown studying the method the German's used for torpedo 
>>> propulsion from WWI. Acetylene Gas and sea water produced an 
>>> exothermic reaction generating Super Steam. Brown built several 
>>> reactors and tested them in the Tulsa area to break (down hole) the 
>>> parafin deposits to release crude oil.
>>>
>>> The Chemical equation for the reaction in the US Patent: 
>>> https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en
>>>
>>> *(6C + 12 H2O= 6CO2 + 24H) *
>>>
>>> Hydrogen Reactor Development
>>>
>>> **
>>>
>>> Original concept design was a high voltage, high frequency resonant 
>>> device that utilized carbon water reaction with the feedstock being 
>>> in the form of graphite rod stock.This unit was designed for vehicle 
>>> application and had too many limitations to be used for mass 
>>> hydrogen generation.This type reactor is very effective at hydrogen 
>>> production since it targets the water vapor molecule at MRI 
>>> frequencies, which breaks the bonding, allowing the carbon to latch 
>>> onto the oxygen atoms leaving the hydrogen free. This device was a 
>>> closed system that used a simple CO2/hydrogen separation stage that 
>>> enabled the hydrogen to be feed to an internal combustion engine.
>>>
>>> **
>>>
>>> *To allow for a sustained high mass flow of hydrogen gas output, 
>>> reactor design took on a radical change.By incorporating the 
>>> Ranque/Hilsch, Counter Flow Implosion Vortex Principle, and 
>>> continuous high mass flow and gas separation were achieved in one 
>>> stage of operation.Feedstock for this type reactor could be any 
>>> carbon-based material that could be put into a powder form.Highest 
>>> carbon content of the feedstock provides for the most efficient 
>>> hydrogen production with the least undesirable output material.*
>>>
>>> **
>>>
>>> *Super high temperature operating regime was chosen to be above 2500 
>>> C for the purpose of producing atomic hydrogen in the process.The 
>>> original reactor operated at temperatures that easily gasified basic 
>>> carbon into a plasma state (>10,000 F) more easily allowing the 
>>> production of hydrogen from the stoichiometric feed stock ratios.*
>>>
>>> *
>>> *
>>>
>>> **
>>>
>>> I sold one of my Patents (Sonodiffuser) and paid for my 52 acres of 
>>> land and built a 5200 sq. Ft. lab the do the Prototype machining and 
>>> Proof of Concept testing for GAZPROM, Moscow in 2005. A $1.2 million 
>>> investment and they got the rights to the process and I got the 
>>> beautiful Research Lab all paid in full. I was a self employed 
>>> Contractor in Dallas working with HVAC, Electrical and Electronics 
>>> Maintenance so had to commute 170 miles/day and only had the week 
>>> ends for my time! Having to mow grass and maintane the 52 acres took 
>>> all my time and when I suffered a neck fracture in 2012, had to 
>>> retire. Liquidated the entire facility and sold it off. Moved to 
>>> Dallas then to South Louisiana where I now do a lot of relaxing and 
>>> fishing!
>>>
>>> Hector and ALL, I did my time in the Barrel so now I will just 
>>> contribute to the dialog inorder to assist any research you may be 
>>> doing within my area of experitise!     BTW! I have been out to 
>>> pasture for a long time now, so no BULL offense!  As Hector knows, 
>>> "It fits"! Lol
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes! Hector, I will wear my Border Patrol Hat when you come visit 
>>> from PR!  Lol
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/6/2018 8:52 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> By the way ... i can hit mega millions or the power ball  . i never 
>>>> will not have a lab i can work in,  that is worst than death , you 
>>>> have no idea of the technology that had being lost by the greedy 
>>>> fucking bastards fucking my life , they will loose all they have  
>>>> "soon" because it had being engineered that way by accumulative bad 
>>>> karma, i have another lab they will never reach or be able to 
>>>> intercept or destroy and that will decide their fate ..... they 
>>>> will be fucked hard !
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> (H)
>>>>
>>>> ---In [email protected], <mkjekyll@...> wrote :
>>>>
>>>> Cmon Hector,
>>>>
>>>> Bad taste!
>>>>
>>>> The man had a more serious lab than anyone else here and his work 
>>>> speaks for itself. Maybe he has gained the fortune he desired 
>>>> through R&D and now shitting in tall cotton or gone fishing reaping 
>>>> the rewards of retirement. Notwithstanding is still kind enough to 
>>>> help point us in the right directions around here.
>>>>
>>>> "*Funny–I can look back on a life of achievement, on challenges 
>>>> met, competitors bested, obstacles overcome. I’ve accomplished more 
>>>> than most men, and without the use of my legs. What?What makes a 
>>>> man, Mr. Lebowski?"*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11/6/2018 8:04 AM, arkresearch@... <mailto:arkresearch@...> 
>>>> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>     Dar n ! a Scientist inventor with no lab is like a breeding
>>>>>     bull with no balls !
>>>>>
>>>>>     Balls Cow GIF - Balls Cow WingDangDoodle GIFs
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     ---In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>,
>>>>>     <nwootan@...> <mailto:nwootan@...> wrote :
>>>>>
>>>>>     Jacob! You asked me a question and I gave you my opinion!  I'm
>>>>>     totally retired at 80 years old and have no lab to experiment
>>>>>     in! Your quote; I heard once a phrase from a researcher who
>>>>>     said. '' Slow down boy, we get paid for llooking for
>>>>>     solutions, not to find them!''   That certainly does not apply
>>>>>     to me for I have shared all with the folks on this site. I
>>>>>     find you statement very interesting:  Technics that use up 10
>>>>>     % of a magnet in 24 hours with usual amount of gas looks to me
>>>>>     extremely inefficient. ??????        Care to share where you
>>>>>     saw the power of a permanent magnet being used up!   We all
>>>>>     here on this site share what ever knowledge we have on the
>>>>>     various subjects not seeking any monetary gain in any way!
>>>>>     That is my approach!   I just contribute to the dialog when I
>>>>>     run across something interesting and think it will assist you
>>>>>     guys!   Norm
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     On 11/3/2018 11:32 PM, Jakob Wall wall_jakob@...
>>>>>     <mailto:wall_jakob@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>         Thanks Norman,
>>>>>>         But i actually asced for ''most efficient way'' to split
>>>>>>         water known to you!
>>>>>>         I realize there are a lot of different technigues to do
>>>>>>         just that.
>>>>>>         And yes i realize you could give me a rather complex
>>>>>>         answer. But instead i hope for a
>>>>>>         rather easy and reproductive answer since i am looking
>>>>>>         forward to solve my enerrgy
>>>>>>         problems i just can not live with the momentary (sad and
>>>>>>         very stupid energy situation)
>>>>>>         I am still not giving up becouse of a couple mistakes and
>>>>>>         misunderstandings.
>>>>>>         If i would be a car dealer and you would ask me for a
>>>>>>         most efficient car available on the market
>>>>>>         i would for sure not recommend a Prius, since there are a
>>>>>>         lot of cars with better fuel economie
>>>>>>         even without being a hybrid and without additional cost
>>>>>>         like batterys,e-motors and a bunch added ECU's
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours with
>>>>>>         usual amount of gas looks to me extremely
>>>>>>         inefficient.
>>>>>>         Also very expensive HHO-Garage products with output of
>>>>>>         1,6 ltr/min.
>>>>>>         Come on, 6 rusty nails and a old car batery does this
>>>>>>         job, no need to spend 1600 bucks on it.
>>>>>>         I honestly expected solide advise or a honest NO way boy,
>>>>>>         i just talking around.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. '' Slow
>>>>>>         down boy, we get paid for llooking for
>>>>>>         solutions, not to find them!'' That shoked me deeply and
>>>>>>         even if i get 150 years old, i will not forget it.
>>>>>>         Thats true treason on mankind and deciving the people. I
>>>>>>         really hope nobody on this forum only care
>>>>>>         about what he/she will be doing tomorrow.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Jakob
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         --------------------------------------------
>>>>>>         On Sun, 10/28/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>>>         <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
>>>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery
>>>>>>         To: [email protected]
>>>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]>, "Bert Pool"
>>>>>>         <BertPool512@...> <mailto:BertPool512@...>, "Bob Paddock"
>>>>>>         <bob.paddock@...> <mailto:bob.paddock@...>, "joel
>>>>>>         mcclain" <joel_76670@...> <mailto:joel_76670@...>, "Jon
>>>>>>         Gentry" <jongen422@...> <mailto:jongen422@...>,
>>>>>>         "Mbking42" <mbking42@...> <mailto:mbking42@...>, "Toby
>>>>>>         Grotz" <wireless2@...> <mailto:wireless2@...>, "Phil
>>>>>>         Rembold" <prembold@...> <mailto:prembold@...>, "Angel
>>>>>>         Alvarez" <angel@...> <mailto:angel@...>, "Fredric
>>>>>>         Fletcher" <ffletcher@...> <mailto:ffletcher@...>
>>>>>>         Received: Sunday, October 28, 2018, 9:44 AM
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Jacob!  That would be a rather complex answer
>>>>>>         but here is your
>>>>>>         starting point!
>>>>>>         https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct-thermomagnetic-splitting-of-water-.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         After having been heavily involved in the COLD FUSION
>>>>>>         Research
>>>>>>         back in the 70s and 80s I quickly settled o0n the best
>>>>>>         catalyst in
>>>>>>         electrolytic cells which is pure nickel. I still have
>>>>>>         the cell
>>>>>>         used in the Elemental Replication experiments.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm
>>>>>>         The hidden
>>>>>>         part of this research is the use of a nickel component
>>>>>>         in the
>>>>>>         combustion chamber. Bosch developed 90,000V ignition
>>>>>>         systems to
>>>>>>         enable water injection in gas engine which high
>>>>>>         lighted the
>>>>>>         Graneau HV decomposition of water via HVDC
>>>>>>         discharge!
>>>>>>         My magnetic Battery when run as an electrolytic cell
>>>>>>         to produce
>>>>>>         hydrogen does produce a huge amount of hydrogen gas as
>>>>>>         shown by
>>>>>>         the Dr. Ehrenhaft document.  I would tell you to
>>>>>>         pursue the super
>>>>>>         high Tesla magnetic flux and nickel electrodes in an
>>>>>>         electrolytic
>>>>>>         cell.  The major obstacle to be overcome is the rapid
>>>>>>         collection
>>>>>>         of ions from solution by the 1.3 Tesla flux across a
>>>>>>         .020"
>>>>>>         mechanical gap which quickly takes the cell into a
>>>>>>         super-conduction mode which takes out the driving DC
>>>>>>         power supply.
>>>>>>         You can flush the magnetic gaps with distilled water
>>>>>>         and the gaps
>>>>>>         will show in the meg-ohm range then go to zero ohms
>>>>>>         after a short
>>>>>>         period of running, the gathered ions totally short
>>>>>>         cell. During
>>>>>>         the brief runs there is a huge amount of hydrogen gas
>>>>>>         produced
>>>>>>         which I burned off as it was generated.  Much can be
>>>>>>         said about
>>>>>>         driving the cell with high frequencies as the Myers
>>>>>>         research
>>>>>>         showed.  Our friend up in Canada at George Wiseman,
>>>>>>         Eagle Research
>>>>>>         is running well ahead of the crowd on the production
>>>>>>         of H-H-O.
>>>>>>         Just for giggles!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         16 October
>>>>>>         1996
>>>>>>         To: Hal
>>>>>>         Fox,  Fusion Facts
>>>>>>         Elemental
>>>>>>         Replication ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>               Around mid
>>>>>>         September
>>>>>>         I put together an
>>>>>>         electrolysis cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold
>>>>>>         Fusion Cell
>>>>>>         with the goal of
>>>>>>         exploring the possibilities of making what is
>>>>>>         termed “Pristine
>>>>>>         Water”.   This water
>>>>>>         which will be used by Homeopaths
>>>>>>         will have had all memory or information
>>>>>>         removed.  This is accomplished by
>>>>>>         recombining monatomic
>>>>>>         hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated in a
>>>>>>         properly
>>>>>>         designed cell.  This is
>>>>>>         the ultimate in purity since this is
>>>>>>         water with conditions at the time of original
>>>>>>         creation.  “Holly Water”is a term
>>>>>>         coined by my dear
>>>>>>         friend and fellow researcher Joe Tyls of
>>>>>>         Vancouver, BC.   After several weeks of
>>>>>>         successful operation
>>>>>>         producing water that had all the earmarks of a
>>>>>>         true “pristine
>>>>>>         water” a fellow
>>>>>>         researcher suggested using an alternate
>>>>>>         electrolyte.   A solution was selected
>>>>>>         that contained 77
>>>>>>         colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the
>>>>>>         easiest
>>>>>>         assimilated into the
>>>>>>         body.   With the
>>>>>>         electrolyte changed the
>>>>>>         cell was put back into operation as before with a
>>>>>>         nice
>>>>>>         recombination burn and
>>>>>>         production of the sought after “pristine
>>>>>>         water”.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             After about an
>>>>>>         hour of
>>>>>>         operation the cell
>>>>>>         went absolutely “nuts” with the temperature
>>>>>>         rapidly climbing
>>>>>>         to boiling point
>>>>>>         and the current out of sight.
>>>>>>         When the
>>>>>>         cell was opened we found a deep red sludge deposit
>>>>>>         which
>>>>>>         shorted the cell
>>>>>>         plates.   Our first
>>>>>>         thought was that the
>>>>>>         electrolytic action precipitated out the colloidal
>>>>>>         minerals
>>>>>>         which caused the
>>>>>>         deposit found.   The
>>>>>>         electrolyte was allowed
>>>>>>         to settle out the
>>>>>>         precipitate.   After
>>>>>>         decanting off,  the clear electrolyte
>>>>>>         was
>>>>>>         returned to the
>>>>>>         cell for another run. Again the cell operated
>>>>>>         normally for
>>>>>>         about an hour with a
>>>>>>         normal recombination burn and recovery of the
>>>>>>         water being
>>>>>>         consumed by the cell
>>>>>>         in the splitting action. Again
>>>>>>         the cell
>>>>>>         temperature and current mirrored the first
>>>>>>         run.
>>>>>>         Again the cell contained the same amount of
>>>>>>         sludge
>>>>>>         residue.   This process
>>>>>>         was repeated ten (10) times
>>>>>>         with exactly the same results.
>>>>>>         All of
>>>>>>         the sludge was carefully dried and weighed on an
>>>>>>         electronic
>>>>>>         scale with a five
>>>>>>         decimal
>>>>>>         resolution.
>>>>>>         The cell plates and all hardware were
>>>>>>         weighed to
>>>>>>         determine any loss of
>>>>>>         mass that may contribute to the mass gain observed
>>>>>>         in the
>>>>>>         sludge.  Five hundred
>>>>>>         (500) ml of the original
>>>>>>         electrolyte solution used in the cell was vacuum
>>>>>>         distilled to
>>>>>>         determine the
>>>>>>         exact mass of colloidal minerals
>>>>>>         contained.
>>>>>>         When all factors were considered we came
>>>>>>         out with a
>>>>>>         mass gain of  48 gm
>>>>>>         which cannot be explained by
>>>>>>         conventional
>>>>>>         electrolysis.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             After talking
>>>>>>         to Dr.
>>>>>>         Robert Bass and Hal
>>>>>>         Fox I learned of a patent that has been filed on
>>>>>>         the
>>>>>>         transmutation of elements
>>>>>>         in the cold fusion cell which is the process that
>>>>>>         Dr. John
>>>>>>         Bockris has been so
>>>>>>         active in.   Both Dr.
>>>>>>         Bass and Hal Fox
>>>>>>         stated that what I was observing is not the same
>>>>>>         as the
>>>>>>         transmutation observed
>>>>>>         in the cold fusion cell since I have a overall
>>>>>>         mass gain and
>>>>>>         not a lateral
>>>>>>         movement of elements in the periodic table toward
>>>>>>         lighter
>>>>>>         elements with a
>>>>>>         resulting heat release. This
>>>>>>         unusual
>>>>>>         cell operation has caused quite a reaction in the
>>>>>>         scientific
>>>>>>         community.  At this
>>>>>>         time I have built a complete new cell
>>>>>>         with every possible factor which could possibly
>>>>>>         explain the
>>>>>>         mass gain
>>>>>>         considered and documented.  The
>>>>>>         ten (10)
>>>>>>         consecutive runs on the new cell will be completed
>>>>>>         soon and a
>>>>>>         report will be
>>>>>>         forthcoming.   What is
>>>>>>         interesting about
>>>>>>         this phenomenon is that when an eleventh run was
>>>>>>         made with the
>>>>>>         original
>>>>>>         electrolyte exactly the same amount of residue was
>>>>>>         recovered
>>>>>>         as in the previous
>>>>>>         ten
>>>>>>         runs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Since
>>>>>>         the same electrolyte is reused each time with only
>>>>>>         distilled
>>>>>>         water being added
>>>>>>         to replace the volume lost by the removal of the
>>>>>>         solids and
>>>>>>         the water recovered
>>>>>>         by the recombination burn we are hard pressed to
>>>>>>         explain the
>>>>>>         observed
>>>>>>         phenomenon.     The
>>>>>>         electrolyte appears
>>>>>>         stronger in mineral concentration and shows no
>>>>>>         sign of
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         depletion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            After conferring
>>>>>>         with
>>>>>>         Joe Tyls we arrived at
>>>>>>         the conclusion that the 77 colloidal minerals
>>>>>>         contained in the
>>>>>>         electrolyte
>>>>>>         provide the atomic templates needed for the
>>>>>>         monatomic hydrogen
>>>>>>         (father of all
>>>>>>         the elements) to replicate selected elements in
>>>>>>         this exotic
>>>>>>         mixture.  If you
>>>>>>         subscribe to the theories of the late
>>>>>>         Walter Russell and his explanation of the octave
>>>>>>         based
>>>>>>         periodic table with
>>>>>>         monatonic hydrogen being what he describes as
>>>>>>         hydrons
>>>>>>         (precursor to hydrogen)
>>>>>>         then it is possible for the replication of
>>>>>>         elements directly
>>>>>>         from energy input
>>>>>>         alone.  This is how all
>>>>>>         matter was
>>>>>>         created in the beginning as described by
>>>>>>         Schappeller in “The
>>>>>>         Physics of the
>>>>>>         Primary State of Matter”.    I
>>>>>>         will keep
>>>>>>         all informed as to our progress and findings in
>>>>>>         this very
>>>>>>         intriguing venture.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Norman
>>>>>>         Wootan
>>>>>>         P.O.
>>>>>>         Box 141049
>>>>>>         Dallas,
>>>>>>         TX 75214
>>>>>>         (214)
>>>>>>         360-0865
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         CC:  Gene Mallove,
>>>>>>         Infinite
>>>>>>         Energy
>>>>>>         CC:  Dr. John
>>>>>>         Bockris, Texas
>>>>>>         A/M
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         On 10/28/2018 1:01 AM,
>>>>>>         Jakob Wall
>>>>>>         wall_jakob@... <mailto:wall_jakob@...>
>>>>>>         [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Thanks Norman,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         BTW, what is the most effective water split
>>>>>>         device that
>>>>>>         you ever put you hands on?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         As HHO researcher for dekades you should be
>>>>>>         able to point
>>>>>>         us directly to the most effective known!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Please be specific about reconstruction of the
>>>>>>         same, since
>>>>>>         we are in public domain it will become public
>>>>>>         knowledge
>>>>>>         and public good. I assume you intend nothing
>>>>>>         else,rigth ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         --------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         On Sat, 10/27/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>>>         <mailto:nwootan@...>
>>>>>>         [EVGRAY]
>>>>>>         <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>         wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's
>>>>>>         Magnetic
>>>>>>         Battery [3 Attachments]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         To: "Bert Pool" <BertPool512@...> <mailto:BertPool512@...>,
>>>>>>         "Bob
>>>>>>         Paddock" <bob.paddock@...> <mailto:bob.paddock@...>,
>>>>>>         "joel mcclain"
>>>>>>         <joel_76670@...> <mailto:joel_76670@...>,
>>>>>>         "Jon Gentry"
>>>>>>         <jongen422@...> <mailto:jongen422@...>,
>>>>>>         "Lane Wootan"
>>>>>>         <lanewootan@...> <mailto:lanewootan@...>,
>>>>>>         "Mbking42"
>>>>>>         <mbking42@...> <mailto:mbking42@...>,
>>>>>>         "Toby Grotz"
>>>>>>         <wireless2@...> <mailto:wireless2@...>,
>>>>>>         "Phil Rembold"
>>>>>>         <prembold@...> <mailto:prembold@...>,
>>>>>>         "Angel Alvarez"
>>>>>>         <angel@...> <mailto:angel@...>,
>>>>>>         "Fredric Fletcher"
>>>>>>         <ffletcher@...> <mailto:ffletcher@...>,
>>>>>>         [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         To understand the unwinding of a thread
>>>>>>         leading
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         to Magnetic
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Generating Hydrogen and this Magnetic Battery,
>>>>>>         we have
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         to dust off
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         our  9th grade Chemistry Books!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         http://www.rexresearch.com/ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         I guess Dr.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Ehrenhaft was the first to propose a Magnetic
>>>>>>         Current.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         (Jon
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Gentry, Your liquid metal vortex helix).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         https://revolution-green.com/can-electrolysis-powered-magnets/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Ah! Ha!  more on Magnetic Currents!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         https://www.labmanager.com/white-papers-and-application-notes/2010/05/resistivity-conductivity-measurement-of-purified-water#.W9So9uJRc2w
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         https://www.askiitians.com/forums/Physical-Chemistry/19/19074/electro-che
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpotential
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         https://www.quora.com/Why-is-oxygen-molecule-paramagnetic-although-it-does-not-contain-any-unpaired-electron
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251580541_The_effect_of_magnetic_force_on_hydrogen_production_efficiency_in_water_electrolysis
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         http://www.physicscentral.com/experiment/physicsathome/electricwhirlpool.cfm
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         http://www.linux-host.org/energy/bmagpump.htm
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Now Jon Gentry you have your liquid metal pump
>>>>>>         so
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         that you can
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         make the helix tube Vortex!
>>>>>>         Ferricpetacarbonyl or
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         micro fine neo
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         powder to provide the liquid metal for pump
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         circuit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Lots of reading here! Please think
>>>>>>         about the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         ramifications of
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         a Magnetic Current as proposed by Dr.
>>>>>>         Ehrenhaft!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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NormanToo bad I didn't know you then.My scrap yard across the street was my source of pure nickel.For metal plating of most metals, they use nickel as the base, as it is the easiest to apply, and almost anything can plate on top of it.They hang the objects to be plated on pure nickel wire hangers, just cut off a roll, and twisted as you might any wire.In the course of plating in the tanks, this wire builds up to several inches sometimes, into amazing shapes much like coral undersea organic creatures.Of course I scooped up a bunch of these, being a special effects artist, and still have them.You might want to lurk around your friendly neighborhood metal platers, for some nickel.You know, the Hell's Angels, and their Harley's, half a block away from my old studio, were a boost to the very local community, when it came to metal plating. They sure liked shiny chrome on their bikes.My local metal plater was on the back alleyway from my studio.There were advantages to buying a place in the ratty lower East end of Toronto, near the waterfront, other than being close to where I built my boat on the dock.The entire film industry followed me there in later years, displacing the shoddy steel warehouses, and lead foundry, further down the street.Now it is all chi chi Starbucks, and bistrosI'm sure you live in a much better neighbourhood, but these places exist all over. I even found them in down town Manhattan, near the Village, when I worked there, in the 80'sSo buy your pure nickel from small time platers, as scrap. Tell them all about what you are doing, and they will likely be charmed by the story, and just give it to you.Forget the crooks. The biggest supporters of research are ordinary people just like you, and me, but, you have to share. I had my whole neighborhood supporting my research, from thrown out microwaves, and oil furnace transformers, to DC motors from tread mills, and any weird motors and stuff that they might think would help.I miss my contact with grass roots, in the city, as here in the country, people are more spread out, and need to drive, to meet each other.Cheers Warren

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Once upon a time, back in the 80s there was the famous Cold Fusion Debate of which I was a part.  There was a Cold Fusion Cell built that used pure nickel for the anode/cathodes., Called a Double Nickel Cell.  It happened that Bert Pool & Leslie were going to Canada for a little vacation so Bert brought back Canadian quarters which BTW were pure nickel.   I built the below cell to measure  anomalous heat output which had been reported.   I called it the Octa-Nickel Cell and by using pure nickel elements, it was a huge hydrogen producer.  I used Potassium Carbonate for the electrolyte with a 5VDC power supply @ 10 amps to drive the cell and it did deliver the additional heat output over the input wattage as measured by the instrumented enclosure. I burned off the H-H-O produced with the little stainless nozzle shown and it would sublimate tungsten wire in the 10,000 degree pink/blue recombination burn.  A true sign of atomic hydrogen.   A real break through occurred when I took the experiment to a Vanguard Science Meeting to do a report on Cold Fusion.  While transporting the cell some of my electrolyte was spilled, so I went to the rest room and got some Dallas tap water to top off the 100ml beaker. When placed into operation, the cell sat there and produced the atomic hydrogen /oxygen gas but the cell temperature was going down below the ambient starting temperature of 78 degrees at start.  I was puzzled over how you could be putting in 50 watts of hard DC power and the cell temperature was going down.  Demonstration ruined BUT, quite revealing since there was something unusual going on. I suspected that the nickel electrode cell was transmuting the chlorine contaminates in the Dallas tap water.  Thus, I built the Elemental Replication Cell which was designed around 316L stainless steel anodes/cathodes cause I could not afford to buy sheet nickel stock. See : http://www.pennstainless.com/stainless-grades/300-series-stainless-steel/316l-stainless-steel/    The elemental Replication Phenomenon was verified by other researches in the Tesla Tech Group as reported at the annual meetings by Steve Elswick.  Nickel has been shown to be a very powerful catalytic agent in the combustion of diesel/water mix as done by Caterpillar Corp and the auto Industry.  See: http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm   Bosch Corp. designed ultra high voltage ignition system to burn water fuel combination which BTW had the nickel catalyst present.
 
 

 

 
 

 
 
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I want to prepare some findings on "Catalysts" tomorrow. I need to pull up some interesting info for you all!
 
 
 
  
 
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Bart,

Your information including on your cat is very interesting.  I have been
using distilled water that is first softened and then RO  then distilled
beginning from my well.   It has a similar "drying" effect as norms
wholly water though not as pronounced.

Could you please provide more information on your experiments concerning
distilled water and using the magnetic stirrer and how that alkalizes
the water?   The NMR and parahydrogen post if very long winded so
difficult for me to get the gist of your presentation.

Thanks,

Mick


On 11/10/2018 10:37 AM, bart woodard [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> I use a magnetic stirrer with distilled and wait for the ph to rise,
> the results are immediate.
>
> https://hannainst.com/hi190m-1-magnetic-mini-stirrer.html
>
> Mini Magnetic Stirrer (115V) - HI190M-1 - Hanna Instruments
> <https://hannainst.com/hi190m-1-magnetic-mini-stirrer.html>
> hannainst.com
> Compact. Lightweight. This mini magnetic stirrer with plastic cover
> can stir up to 1 liter. Big power, small footprint. Perfect for any lab!
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of
> Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* November 10, 2018 12:34 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery [2
> Attachments]
>  
>  
>
> No!� Bart, never got into that exotic element stuff!� Just
> followed those that were!
>
> On 11/10/2018 10:42 AM, bart woodard [email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>> �
>>
>> Hey Norm , your life's experiences have been fruitful!! Congrats!!
>>
>> Have you ever played with table top combinations� such as thorium
>> and fluoride or the molten salt combo?
>>
>> On a hobbyist� basis approach?
>>
>> Rossi likes to inject nickel/mag� powder so as I see to maintain
>> his 1k output!.
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> on behalf of
>> Norman Wootan [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
>> *Sent:* November 9, 2018 3:12 PM
>> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>> *Subject:* Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery [2
>> Attachments]
>> �
>> �
>>
>> Mick! To answer the rest of your questions:� In that ARC process
>> you have to use carbon rods to yield the carbon monoxide &
>> hydrogen.� (carbon source) (arc is heat source).
>>
>> Holy Water was interesting part of the Elemental Replication
>> experiment. See:�
>>
>> *Elemental Replication ?*
>>
>> *�*
>>
>> ����� Around mid September I put together an electrolysis
>> cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold Fusion Cell with the goal of
>> exploring the possibilities of making what is termed �Pristine
>> Water�.�� This water which will be used by Homeopaths will have
>> had all memory or information removed.� This is accomplished by
>> recombining monatomic hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated in a
>> properly designed cell.� This is the ultimate in purity since this
>> is water with conditions at the time of original creation.�
>> �Wholy Water�is a term coined by my dear friend and fellow
>> researcher Joe Tyls of Vancouver, BC.�� After several weeks of
>> successful operation producing water that had all the earmarks of a
>> true �pristine water� a fellow researcher suggested using an
>> alternate electrolyte.�� A solution was selected that contained
>> 77 colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the easiest
>> assimilated into the body.�� With the electrolyte changed the
>> cell was put back into operation as before with a nice recombination
>> burn and production of the sought after �pristine water�.���
>>
>>
>> The water produced in the recombination burn of the H-H-O was
>> collected from a silica glass condenser into a silica glass beaker
>> for sampling.� When you flipped several CCs of the water into your
>> mouth and tried to swallow, there was nothing there.� Hmmmm!� We
>> immediately tested the viscosity and surface tension of the water and
>> found it to be far below human blood which means that the water
>> diffused directly into the capillaries around the tongue therefore
>> nothing there to swallow.� The two Doctor who were there were
>> amazed. � To prove the theory as to information carried by water,
>> we collected a sample of several CCs into a plastic lab cup instead
>> of the silica glass beaker. When you flipped the several CCs into
>> your mouth you had to immediately spit it out for it was pure taste
>> of plastic. This water picks up signature of anything it comes into
>> contact with.� That is why the Homeopathic Doctors wanted it for
>> making their tinctures.��� (signature of a healing agent).
>> ��� We had all the necessary instruments to evaluate the
>> Pristine water. See: � https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemorheology
>>
>> Hemorheology - Wikipedia <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemorheology>
>> en.m.wikipedia.org
>> Blood viscosity is a measure of the resistance of blood to flow. It
>> can also be described as the thickness and stickiness of blood. This
>> biophysical property makes it a critical determinant of friction
>> against the vessel walls, the rate of venous return, the work
>> required for the heart to pump blood, and how much oxygen is
>> transported to tissues and organs.
>>
>> ��
>> http://www.dynalenelabs.com/testing-services/thermal-testing/viscosity-rheology/?gclid=CjwKCAiA_ZTfBRBjEiwAN6YG4SdHu5bWZ9yHLBM9VNQ0TLl4tB1hOqMvR_dOEHNbGX6k_kDHHtb5xhoCgIgQAvD_BwE
>> �������� https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tensiometer
>>
>> � https://hydramotion.com/en/technical/units-of-viscosity
>>
>> I made an offer to the Doctors present that a small unit for
>> production of a liter/day of Pristine Water via complete unit built
>> of quartz glass could be had for $5,000. Apparently they were not
>> that enthused as we thought!� Oh! Well!
>>
>> I built numerous Pyramids of all sizes and the Orgone Accumulators
>> and even the Cloud� Buster.�� The pyramid experiments were very
>> interesting for real effects were shown.�� Never tested whether
>> water would� break after treatment by either Orgone� or
>> pyramid.��� The complete description of the 4 inch cell is in
>> the Elemental replication Part Two. See:
>>
>>
>> Cell Description
>>
>> �
>>
>> ��� The electrolysis cell is designed to hold one (1) liter of
>> electrolyte and operate at approximately 150 watt power level for the
>> production of monatomic hydrogen and� monatomic oxygen which is
>> burned back to pure water and collected in a glass condenser.� Cell
>> container is schedule 40 PVC pipe section 6 inches long with bottom
>> cap cemented on.� The top of the cell has a 4 inch female thread
>> adapter cemented on to provide access to the interior via a male
>> threaded plug which has the gas outlet port and two electrolyte fill
>> ports to provide for replacement of lost electrolyte on the fly for
>> continuos operation.� Positive and negative terminals are provided
>> for external connection of the power supply leads to the internal
>> anode- cathode stack.
>>
>> ��� The cell plate stack consist of 8 anode plates and 8
>> cathode plates of the following sizes constructed from 316L stainless
>> steel of 22 ga. thickness.
>>
>> 4 ea.� 3� X 3� plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 2.75�plates,� 2 ea.
>> 3� X 2.5�plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 2.25� plates,� 2 ea. 3� X
>> 2� plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 1.75� plates, and� 2 ea. 3� X
>> 1.5� plates.� The plates are drilled and stacked with alternating
>> anode and cathode plates spaced 1/8� apart which makes a
>> cylindrical shaped array which fits nicely inside of the 4� ID
>> PVC� cell container.� Electrical leads are braided copper of #10
>> size which are covered by shrink tubing to cover conductive surface
>> as they pass through the electrolyte to the cell terminal bolts.�
>> All electrical surfaces other than the anode and cathode plates are
>> carefully covered with PVC cement to prevent deterioration from
>> electrolyte contact.��� Please note that if allowed to come
>> into contact with �charged� surfaces monatomic hydrogen and
>> monatonic oxygen will imediately form into their usual occuring state
>> as diatomic H2 and O2 molecules.
>>
>> ���������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������
>>
>>
>> On 11/8/2018 4:29 PM, Mick [email protected]
>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>> �
>>>
>>> Hi Norm,
>>>
>>> The catalysts are very interesting.� Iron Cobalt and Nickel all
>>> ferromagnetic but at different spins.
>>>
>>> Correct me if I am wrong but based on reading your links a bingofuel
>>> type reactor using tungsten electrodes that hopefully would last
>>> much longer would likely produce OH rather than H and carbon
>>> monoxide, what do you think?
>>>
>>> Also water is strange indeed in that a pyramid or orgone accumulator
>>> changes it and these simple changes could make for water that breaks
>>> up more easily.� I would love to know what results you
>>> demonstrated with the totally juvenile memory free water you put
>>> back together from the OH?�
>>>
>>> Sorry to hear about your neck fracture, I have a similar issue and
>>> it is extremely painful and debilitating at times.
>>>
>>> Mick
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/7/2018 4:15 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected]
>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>> �
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11/7/2018 6:06 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Jakob Wall! & all other researchers on here need to read the Whole
>>>>> Story as to why I no longer have a research lab.� Jakob, I'm
>>>>> sorry I did not reveal to you the BEST in my opinion of methods of
>>>>> producing hydrogen gas for I felt it was a little too advanced and
>>>>> difficult for you to experiment with.� See:
>>>>> https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en .�� There is
>>>>> a very long story behind this US Patent and a hell of a lot of
>>>>> research. The quest for a very inexpensive method of splitting
>>>>> water has been the Holy Grail of� cheap energy.�� In
>>>>> addition to the research papers and links that I gave to you, here
>>>>> are some more to dwell on.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.researchgate.net/post/At_what_temperature_water_will_decompose_to_Oxygen_and_Hydrogen
>>>>> <https://www..researchgate.net/post/At_what_temperature_water_will_decompose_to_Oxygen_and_Hydrogen>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.quora.com/Does-water-break-down-into-oxygen-and-hydrogen-at-high-temperatures-If-so-then-at-what-temperature
>>>>> <https://www..quora.com/Does-water-break-down-into-oxygen-and-hydrogen-at-high-temperatures-If-so-then-at-what-temperature>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.quora.com/How-much-water-can-you-split-into-hydrogen-and-oxygen-using-electrolysis-with-one-kilowatt-hour-of-electricity
>>>>> <https://www..quora.com/How-much-water-can-you-split-into-hydrogen-and-oxygen-using-electrolysis-with-one-kilowatt-hour-of-electricity>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.redrok.com/hion96a1.htm
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.nature.com/articles/nplants201741
>>>>> <https://www..nature.com/articles/nplants201741>�� Please read
>>>>> carefully about the play of Nickel in this approach!
>>>>>
>>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_splitting
>>>>>
>>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water-gas_shift_reaction���
>>>>> I owned 77 acres of land in Eureka Springs, AR where they still
>>>>> had the old water gas generator and gas storage facility.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decarboxylation
>>>>>
>>>>> https://phys.org/news/2018-02-uncovers-mechanism-water-splitting-catalyst.html
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/new-catalyst-could-split-water-cheaply/
>>>>> <https://www..scientificamerican.com/article/new-catalyst-could-split-water-cheaply/>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.technologyreview.com/s/512996/a-cheaper-way-to-make-hydrogen-from-water/
>>>>> <https://www..technologyreview.com/s/512996/a-cheaper-way-to-make-hydrogen-from-water/>
>>>>>
>>>>> "*SUPER STEAM* - A Tesla conference in Colorado surfaces new Super
>>>>> Steam Technology (SST). Leonard Dorsett and friends from Texas
>>>>> share strikingly similar views to Aquarian Agency Ltd. They have
>>>>> technology which produces steam instantly at up to 3,000F without
>>>>> a boiler and with 60% savings in fuel over traditional boilers.
>>>>> Nitrogen rich, it can put out gasoline fires and treat many waste
>>>>> problems. Of major importance to Aquarian, this nitrogen-rich
>>>>> steam will help to produce heat and Aquastone at considerable
>>>>> savings."
>>>>>
>>>>> For further information on Aquarian Agency Ltd. they can be
>>>>> contacted at 38 Weir Rd, Wimbledon, London SW19 SUG, England or on
>>>>> Internet at <aquarian ocign.ape.org>. *_SUPER STEAM TECHNOLOGY
>>>>> PART 2_*
>>>>>
>>>>> Leonard Dorsett (PO Box 365, Grapevine, TX 76092) demonstrated his
>>>>> Super Steam Technology at the 1994 International Tesla Symposium.
>>>>> SST is a system for producing steam at any temperature or pressure
>>>>> independently and instantly without the need for a conventional
>>>>> boiler. It can instantly produce steam of any temperature from hot
>>>>> water at 180F to super heated steam at over 3000F, while pressures
>>>>> can vary from 1PSI to 3000PSI with airflow volumes of 1CFM up to
>>>>> over 2000CFM. The system operates on propane, methane, petrol,
>>>>> kerosene, methanol, diesel, hydrogen or just about anything else
>>>>> that bums and converts virtually 100% of the fuel into usable
>>>>> energy. (Note: The person in the picture is Norman Wootan of MRA fame)
>>>>>
>>>>> This all sounds great, but how does it work? The basis of the unit
>>>>> is a specially designed open throat chamber with controlled air,
>>>>> water and fuel interaction and a high voltage ignition resulting
>>>>> in a direct fire process establishing thermal zones. This creates
>>>>> a stoichiometric condition resulting in a full spectrum of steam
>>>>> product. Now comes the interesting part At the increased
>>>>> temperatures of steam, disassociation occurs. (Could this be a
>>>>> clue to running cars on water??) The hydrogen and oxygen reacts
>>>>> causing an exponential increase of energy resulting in super
>>>>> heated steam. A similar superheat process was addressed by Tesla
>>>>> in the October 12, 1911 publication of the "Engineering News Record".
>>>>>
>>>>> Applications of the SST system include a much more economical way
>>>>> of producing electricity as no conventional boiler is needed. It
>>>>> will also be an ideal low cost method for heating and cooling
>>>>> homes and businesses. Small portable units can be developed for
>>>>> home use, such as steam cleaning, and insect and ant removal,
>>>>> without the dangers of insecticides. The system can also be used
>>>>> for low cost purification of polluted water or sewerage and can
>>>>> also convert salt water into drinking water both quickly and
>>>>> inexpensively. Other uses are in fire fighting applications, ice
>>>>> and snow removal from roads, etc. and sterilization and nurturing
>>>>> of soil for agriculture where contamination has occurred.
>>>>>
>>>>> I had designed a method of making hydrogen from carbon & water
>>>>> vapor using the Tesla Atomic Bombardment method of high frequency
>>>>> inside of spherical inclosure like this experiments with the
>>>>> carbon button lamp globes.�� After working with Leonard
>>>>> Dorsett and his Super Steam Project, I chose to use the Water
>>>>> Shift Process instead.� A side note is needed here!� The Super
>>>>> Steam Process was a result of Professor Brown studying the method
>>>>> the German's used for torpedo propulsion from WWI.� Acetylene
>>>>> Gas and sea water produced an exothermic reaction generating Super
>>>>> Steam. Brown built several reactors and tested them in the Tulsa
>>>>> area to break (down hole) the parafin deposits to release crude oil.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Chemical equation for the reaction in the US Patent:
>>>>> https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en
>>>>>
>>>>> *(6C + 12 H2O� = 6CO2 + 24H) *
>>>>>
>>>>> Hydrogen Reactor Development
>>>>>
>>>>> *�*
>>>>>
>>>>> Original concept design was a high voltage, high frequency
>>>>> resonant device that utilized carbon water reaction with the
>>>>> feedstock being in the form of graphite rod stock.� This unit
>>>>> was designed for vehicle application and had too many limitations
>>>>> to be used for mass hydrogen generation.� This type reactor is
>>>>> very effective at hydrogen production since it targets the water
>>>>> vapor molecule at MRI frequencies, which breaks the bonding,
>>>>> allowing the carbon to latch onto the oxygen atoms leaving the
>>>>> hydrogen free. This device was a closed system that used a simple
>>>>> CO2/hydrogen separation stage that enabled the hydrogen to be feed
>>>>> to an internal combustion engine.
>>>>>
>>>>> *�*
>>>>>
>>>>> *To allow for a sustained high mass flow of hydrogen gas output,
>>>>> reactor design took on a radical change.� By incorporating the
>>>>> Ranque/Hilsch, Counter Flow Implosion Vortex Principle, and
>>>>> continuous high mass flow and gas separation were achieved in one
>>>>> stage of operation.� Feedstock for this type reactor could be
>>>>> any carbon-based material that could be put into a powder form.�
>>>>> Highest carbon content of the feedstock provides for the most
>>>>> efficient hydrogen production with the least undesirable output
>>>>> material.*
>>>>>
>>>>> *�*
>>>>>
>>>>> *Super high temperature operating regime was chosen to be above
>>>>> 2500 C for the purpose of producing atomic hydrogen in the
>>>>> process.� The original reactor operated at temperatures that
>>>>> easily gasified basic carbon into a plasma state (>10,000 F) more
>>>>> easily allowing the production of hydrogen from the stoichiometric
>>>>> feed stock ratios.*
>>>>>
>>>>> *
>>>>> *
>>>>>
>>>>> **
>>>>>
>>>>> I sold one of my Patents (Sonodiffuser) and paid for my 52 acres
>>>>> of land and built a 5200 sq. Ft. lab the do the Prototype
>>>>> machining and Proof of Concept testing for GAZPROM, Moscow in
>>>>> 2005. A $1.2 million investment and they got the rights to the
>>>>> process and I got the beautiful Research Lab all paid in full. I
>>>>> was a self employed Contractor in Dallas working with HVAC,
>>>>> Electrical and Electronics Maintenance so had to commute 170
>>>>> miles/day and only had the week ends for my time! Having to mow
>>>>> grass and maintane the 52 acres took all my time and when I
>>>>> suffered a neck fracture in 2012, had to retire. Liquidated the
>>>>> entire facility and sold it off. Moved to Dallas then to South
>>>>> Louisiana where I now do a lot of relaxing and fishing!
>>>>>
>>>>> Hector and ALL, I did my time in the Barrel so now I will just
>>>>> contribute to the dialog inorder to assist any research you may be
>>>>> doing within my area of experitise!���� BTW! I have been
>>>>> out to pasture for a long time now, so no BULL offense!� As
>>>>> Hector knows, "It fits"! Lol
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes! Hector, I will wear my Border Patrol Hat when you come visit
>>>>> from PR!� Lol
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/6/2018 8:52 PM, [email protected]
>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>> �
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> By the way ... i can hit mega millions or the power ball� . i
>>>>>> never will not have a lab i can work in,� that is worst than
>>>>>> death , you have no idea of the technology that had being lost by
>>>>>> the greedy fucking bastards fucking my life , they will loose all
>>>>>> they have� "soon" because it had being engineered that way by
>>>>>> accumulative bad karma, i have another lab they will never reach
>>>>>> or be able to intercept or destroy and that will decide their
>>>>>> fate ..... they will be fucked hard !
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (H)� �
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>,
>>>>>> <mkjekyll@...> <mailto:mkjekyll@...> wrote :
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cmon Hector,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bad taste!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The man had a more serious lab than anyone else here and his work
>>>>>> speaks for itself.� Maybe he has gained the fortune he desired
>>>>>> through R&D and now shitting in tall cotton or gone fishing
>>>>>> reaping the rewards of retirement. Notwithstanding is still kind
>>>>>> enough to help point us in the right directions around here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "*Funny�I can look back on a life of achievement, on challenges
>>>>>> met, competitors bested, obstacles overcome. I�ve accomplished
>>>>>> more than most men, and without the use of my legs. What?What
>>>>>> makes a man, Mr. Lebowski?"*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/6/2018 8:04 AM, arkresearch@... <mailto:arkresearch@...>
>>>>>> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     �
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Dar n ! a Scientist inventor with no lab is like a breeding
>>>>>>>     bull with no balls !
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Balls Cow GIF - Balls Cow WingDangDoodle GIFs
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     ---In [email protected]
>>>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]>, <nwootan@...>
>>>>>>>     <mailto:nwootan@...> wrote :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Jacob! You asked me a question and I gave you my opinion!�
>>>>>>>     I'm totally retired at 80 years old and have no lab to
>>>>>>>     experiment in!� Your quote; I heard once a phrase from a
>>>>>>>     researcher who said. '' Slow down boy, we get paid for
>>>>>>>     llooking for solutions, not to find them!''�� That
>>>>>>>     certainly does not apply to me for I have shared all with
>>>>>>>     the folks on this site.� I find you statement very
>>>>>>>     interesting:� Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24
>>>>>>>     hours with usual amount of gas looks to me extremely
>>>>>>>     inefficient.�� ??????������� Care to share
>>>>>>>     where you saw the power of a permanent magnet being used
>>>>>>>     up!�� We all here on this site share what ever knowledge
>>>>>>>     we have on the various subjects not seeking any monetary
>>>>>>>     gain in any way! That is my approach!�� I just
>>>>>>>     contribute to the dialog when I run across something
>>>>>>>     interesting and think it will assist you guys!�� Norm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     On 11/3/2018 11:32 PM, Jakob Wall wall_jakob@...
>>>>>>>     <mailto:wall_jakob@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         �
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         Thanks Norman,
>>>>>>>>         But i actually asced for ''most efficient way'' to
>>>>>>>>         split water known to you!
>>>>>>>>         I realize there are a lot of different technigues to do
>>>>>>>>         just that.
>>>>>>>>         And yes i realize you could give me a rather complex
>>>>>>>>         answer. But instead i hope for a
>>>>>>>>         rather easy and reproductive answer since i am looking
>>>>>>>>         forward to solve my enerrgy
>>>>>>>>         problems i just can not live with the momentary (sad
>>>>>>>>         and very stupid energy situation)
>>>>>>>>         I am still not giving up becouse of a couple mistakes
>>>>>>>>         and misunderstandings..
>>>>>>>>         If i would be a car dealer and you would ask me for a
>>>>>>>>         most efficient car available on the market
>>>>>>>>         i would for sure not recommend a Prius, since there are
>>>>>>>>         a lot of cars with better fuel economie
>>>>>>>>         even without being a hybrid and without additional cost
>>>>>>>>         like batterys,e-motors and a bunch added ECU's
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours with
>>>>>>>>         usual amount of gas looks to me extremely
>>>>>>>>         inefficient.
>>>>>>>>         Also very expensive HHO-Garage products with output of
>>>>>>>>         1,6 ltr/min.
>>>>>>>>         Come on, 6 rusty nails and a old car batery does this
>>>>>>>>         job, no need to spend 1600 bucks on it.
>>>>>>>>         I honestly expected solide advise or a honest NO way
>>>>>>>>         boy, i just talking around.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. ''
>>>>>>>>         Slow down boy, we get paid for llooking for
>>>>>>>>         solutions, not to find them!'' That shoked me deeply
>>>>>>>>         and even if i get 150 years old, i will not forget it.
>>>>>>>>         Thats true treason on mankind and deciving the people.
>>>>>>>>         I really hope nobody on this forum only care
>>>>>>>>         about what he/she will be doing tomorrow.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         Jakob
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         --------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>         On Sun, 10/28/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>>>>>         <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery
>>>>>>>>         To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]>, "Bert Pool"
>>>>>>>>         <BertPool512@...> <mailto:BertPool512@...>, "Bob
>>>>>>>>         Paddock" <bob.paddock@...> <mailto:bob.paddock@...>,
>>>>>>>>         "joel mcclain" <joel_76670@...>
>>>>>>>>         <mailto:joel_76670@...>, "Jon Gentry" <jongen422@...>
>>>>>>>>         <mailto:jongen422@...>, "Mbking42" <mbking42@...>
>>>>>>>>         <mailto:mbking42@...>, "Toby Grotz" <wireless2@...>
>>>>>>>>         <mailto:wireless2@...>, "Phil Rembold" <prembold@...>
>>>>>>>>         <mailto:prembold@...>, "Angel Alvarez" <angel@...>
>>>>>>>>         <mailto:angel@...>, "Fredric Fletcher" <ffletcher@...>
>>>>>>>>         <mailto:ffletcher@...>
>>>>>>>>         Received: Sunday, October 28, 2018, 9:44 AM
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         �
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         Jacob!� That would be a rather complex answer
>>>>>>>>         but here is your
>>>>>>>>         starting point!
>>>>>>>>         https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct-thermomagnetic-splitting-of-water-.html���
>>>>>>>>         After having been heavily involved in the COLD FUSION
>>>>>>>>         Research
>>>>>>>>         back in the 70s and 80s I quickly settled o0n the best
>>>>>>>>         catalyst in
>>>>>>>>         electrolytic cells which is pure nickel. I still have
>>>>>>>>         the cell
>>>>>>>>         used in the Elemental Replication experiments.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm����
>>>>>>>>         The hidden
>>>>>>>>         part of this research is the use of a nickel component
>>>>>>>>         in the
>>>>>>>>         combustion chamber. Bosch developed 90,000V ignition
>>>>>>>>         systems to
>>>>>>>>         enable water injection in gas engine which high
>>>>>>>>         lighted the
>>>>>>>>         Graneau HV decomposition of water via HVDC
>>>>>>>>         discharge!
>>>>>>>>         My magnetic Battery when run as an electrolytic cell
>>>>>>>>         to produce
>>>>>>>>         hydrogen does produce a huge amount of hydrogen gas as
>>>>>>>>         shown by
>>>>>>>>         the Dr. Ehrenhaft document.� I would tell you to
>>>>>>>>         pursue the super
>>>>>>>>         high Tesla magnetic flux and nickel electrodes in an
>>>>>>>>         electrolytic
>>>>>>>>         cell.� The major obstacle to be overcome is the rapid
>>>>>>>>         collection
>>>>>>>>         of ions from solution by the 1.3 Tesla flux across a
>>>>>>>>         ..020"
>>>>>>>>         mechanical gap which quickly takes the cell into a
>>>>>>>>         super-conduction mode which takes out the driving DC
>>>>>>>>         power supply.
>>>>>>>>         You can flush the magnetic gaps with distilled water
>>>>>>>>         and the gaps
>>>>>>>>         will show in the meg-ohm range then go to zero ohms
>>>>>>>>         after a short
>>>>>>>>         period of running, the gathered ions totally short
>>>>>>>>         cell. During
>>>>>>>>         the brief runs there is a huge amount of hydrogen gas
>>>>>>>>         produced�
>>>>>>>>         which I burned off as it was generated.� Much can be
>>>>>>>>         said about
>>>>>>>>         driving the cell with high frequencies as the Myers
>>>>>>>>         research
>>>>>>>>         showed.� Our friend up in Canada at George Wiseman,
>>>>>>>>         Eagle Research
>>>>>>>>         is running well ahead of the crowd on the production
>>>>>>>>         of H-H-O.
>>>>>>>>         Just for giggles!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         16 October
>>>>>>>>         1996
>>>>>>>>         To: Hal
>>>>>>>>         Fox,� Fusion Facts
>>>>>>>>         Elemental
>>>>>>>>         Replication ?
>>>>>>>>         �
>>>>>>>>         ����� Around mid
>>>>>>>>         September
>>>>>>>>         I put together an
>>>>>>>>         electrolysis cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold
>>>>>>>>         Fusion Cell
>>>>>>>>         with the goal of
>>>>>>>>         exploring the possibilities of making what is
>>>>>>>>         termed �Pristine
>>>>>>>>         Water�.�� This water
>>>>>>>>         which will be used by Homeopaths
>>>>>>>>         will have had all memory or information
>>>>>>>>         removed.� This is accomplished by
>>>>>>>>         recombining monatomic
>>>>>>>>         hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated in a
>>>>>>>>         properly
>>>>>>>>         designed cell.� This is
>>>>>>>>         the ultimate in purity since this is
>>>>>>>>         water with conditions at the time of original
>>>>>>>>         creation.� �Holly Water�is a term
>>>>>>>>         coined by my dear
>>>>>>>>         friend and fellow researcher Joe Tyls of
>>>>>>>>         Vancouver, BC.�� After several weeks of
>>>>>>>>         successful operation
>>>>>>>>         producing water that had all the earmarks of a
>>>>>>>>         true �pristine
>>>>>>>>         water� a fellow
>>>>>>>>         researcher suggested using an alternate
>>>>>>>>         electrolyte.�� A solution was selected
>>>>>>>>         that contained 77
>>>>>>>>         colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the
>>>>>>>>         easiest
>>>>>>>>         assimilated into the
>>>>>>>>         body.�� With the
>>>>>>>>         electrolyte changed the
>>>>>>>>         cell was put back into operation as before with a
>>>>>>>>         nice
>>>>>>>>         recombination burn and
>>>>>>>>         production of the sought after �pristine
>>>>>>>>         water�.�������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������
>>>>>>>>         �������
>>>>>>>>         ��� After about an
>>>>>>>>         hour of
>>>>>>>>         operation the cell
>>>>>>>>         went absolutely �nuts� with the temperature
>>>>>>>>         rapidly climbing
>>>>>>>>         to boiling point
>>>>>>>>         and the current out of sight.�
>>>>>>>>         When the
>>>>>>>>         cell was opened we found a deep red sludge deposit
>>>>>>>>         which
>>>>>>>>         shorted the cell
>>>>>>>>         plates.�� Our first
>>>>>>>>         thought was that the
>>>>>>>>         electrolytic action precipitated out the colloidal
>>>>>>>>         minerals
>>>>>>>>         which caused the
>>>>>>>>         deposit found.�� The�
>>>>>>>>         electrolyte was allowed
>>>>>>>>         to settle out the
>>>>>>>>         precipitate.�� After�
>>>>>>>>         decanting off,� the clear electrolyte
>>>>>>>>         was
>>>>>>>>         returned to the
>>>>>>>>         cell for another run. Again the cell operated
>>>>>>>>         normally for
>>>>>>>>         about an hour with a
>>>>>>>>         normal recombination burn and recovery of the
>>>>>>>>         water being
>>>>>>>>         consumed by the cell
>>>>>>>>         in the splitting action.�� Again
>>>>>>>>         the cell
>>>>>>>>         temperature and current mirrored the first
>>>>>>>>         run.�
>>>>>>>>         Again the cell contained the same amount of
>>>>>>>>         sludge
>>>>>>>>         residue.�� This process
>>>>>>>>         was repeated ten (10) times
>>>>>>>>         with exactly the same results.��
>>>>>>>>         All of
>>>>>>>>         the sludge was carefully dried and weighed on an
>>>>>>>>         electronic
>>>>>>>>         scale with a five
>>>>>>>>         decimal
>>>>>>>>         resolution.���������������������
>>>>>>>>         The cell plates and all hardware were
>>>>>>>>         weighed to
>>>>>>>>         determine any loss of
>>>>>>>>         mass that may contribute to the mass gain observed
>>>>>>>>         in the
>>>>>>>>         sludge.� Five hundred
>>>>>>>>         (500) ml of the original
>>>>>>>>         electrolyte solution used in the cell was vacuum
>>>>>>>>         distilled to
>>>>>>>>         determine the
>>>>>>>>         exact mass of colloidal minerals
>>>>>>>>         contained.�
>>>>>>>>         When all factors were considered we came
>>>>>>>>         out with a
>>>>>>>>         mass gain of� 48 gm
>>>>>>>>         which cannot be explained by
>>>>>>>>         conventional
>>>>>>>>         electrolysis.����������������������
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         ��� After talking
>>>>>>>>         to Dr.
>>>>>>>>         Robert Bass and Hal
>>>>>>>>         Fox I learned of a patent that has been filed on
>>>>>>>>         the
>>>>>>>>         transmutation of elements
>>>>>>>>         in the cold fusion cell which is the process that
>>>>>>>>         Dr. John
>>>>>>>>         Bockris has been so
>>>>>>>>         active in.�� Both Dr.
>>>>>>>>         Bass and Hal Fox
>>>>>>>>         stated that what I was observing is not the same
>>>>>>>>         as the
>>>>>>>>         transmutation observed
>>>>>>>>         in the cold fusion cell since I have a overall
>>>>>>>>         mass gain and
>>>>>>>>         not a lateral
>>>>>>>>         movement of elements in the periodic table toward
>>>>>>>>         lighter
>>>>>>>>         elements with a
>>>>>>>>         resulting heat release.� This
>>>>>>>>         unusual
>>>>>>>>         cell operation has caused quite a reaction in the
>>>>>>>>         scientific
>>>>>>>>         community. �At this
>>>>>>>>         time I have built a complete new cell
>>>>>>>>         with every possible factor which could possibly
>>>>>>>>         explain the
>>>>>>>>         mass gain
>>>>>>>>         considered and documented.� The
>>>>>>>>         ten (10)
>>>>>>>>         consecutive runs on the new cell will be completed
>>>>>>>>         soon and a
>>>>>>>>         report will be
>>>>>>>>         forthcoming.�� What is
>>>>>>>>         interesting about
>>>>>>>>         this phenomenon is that when an eleventh run was
>>>>>>>>         made with the
>>>>>>>>         original
>>>>>>>>         electrolyte exactly the same amount of residue was
>>>>>>>>         recovered
>>>>>>>>         as in the previous
>>>>>>>>         ten
>>>>>>>>         runs.�����������������������������������������������������������������������
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         �
>>>>>>>>         Since
>>>>>>>>         the same electrolyte is reused each time with only
>>>>>>>>         distilled
>>>>>>>>         water being added
>>>>>>>>         to replace the volume lost by the removal of the
>>>>>>>>         solids and
>>>>>>>>         the water recovered
>>>>>>>>         by the recombination burn we are hard pressed to
>>>>>>>>         explain the
>>>>>>>>         observed
>>>>>>>>         phenomenon.���� The
>>>>>>>>         electrolyte appears
>>>>>>>>         stronger in mineral concentration and shows no
>>>>>>>>         sign of
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         depletion.��������������������������������
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         �� After conferring
>>>>>>>>         with
>>>>>>>>         Joe Tyls we arrived at
>>>>>>>>         the conclusion that the 77 colloidal minerals
>>>>>>>>         contained in the
>>>>>>>>         electrolyte
>>>>>>>>         provide the atomic templates needed for the
>>>>>>>>         monatomic hydrogen
>>>>>>>>         (father of all
>>>>>>>>         the elements) to replicate selected elements in
>>>>>>>>         this exotic
>>>>>>>>         mixture.� If you
>>>>>>>>         subscribe to the theories of the late
>>>>>>>>         Walter Russell and his explanation of the octave
>>>>>>>>         based
>>>>>>>>         periodic table with
>>>>>>>>         monatonic hydrogen being what he describes as
>>>>>>>>         hydrons
>>>>>>>>         (precursor to hydrogen)
>>>>>>>>         then it is possible for the replication of
>>>>>>>>         elements directly
>>>>>>>>         from energy input
>>>>>>>>         alone.� This is how all
>>>>>>>>         matter was
>>>>>>>>         created in the beginning as described by
>>>>>>>>         Schappeller in �The
>>>>>>>>         Physics of the
>>>>>>>>         Primary State of Matter�.��� I
>>>>>>>>         will keep
>>>>>>>>         all informed as to our progress and findings in
>>>>>>>>         this very
>>>>>>>>         intriguing venture.
>>>>>>>>         �
>>>>>>>>         Norman
>>>>>>>>         Wootan
>>>>>>>>         P.O.
>>>>>>>>         Box 141049
>>>>>>>>         Dallas,
>>>>>>>>         TX 75214
>>>>>>>>         (214)
>>>>>>>>         360-0865
>>>>>>>>         �
>>>>>>>>         �
>>>>>>>>         CC:� Gene Mallove,
>>>>>>>>         Infinite
>>>>>>>>         Energy
>>>>>>>>         CC:� Dr. John
>>>>>>>>         Bockris, Texas
>>>>>>>>         A/M
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         On 10/28/2018 1:01 AM,
>>>>>>>>         Jakob Wall
>>>>>>>>         wall_jakob@... <mailto:wall_jakob@...>
>>>>>>>>         [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         �
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         Thanks Norman,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         BTW, what is the most effective water split
>>>>>>>>         device that
>>>>>>>>         you ever put you hands on?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         As HHO researcher for dekades you should be
>>>>>>>>         able to point
>>>>>>>>         us directly to the most effective known!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         Please be specific about reconstruction of the
>>>>>>>>         same, since
>>>>>>>>         we are in public domain it will become public
>>>>>>>>         knowledge
>>>>>>>>         and public good. I assume you intend nothing
>>>>>>>>         else,rigth ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         --------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         On Sat, 10/27/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>>>>>         <mailto:nwootan@...>
>>>>>>>>         [EVGRAY]
>>>>>>>>         <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>         wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's
>>>>>>>>         Magnetic
>>>>>>>>         Battery [3 Attachments]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         To: "Bert Pool" <BertPool512@...> <mailto:BertPool512@...>,
>>>>>>>>         "Bob
>>>>>>>>         Paddock" <bob.paddock@...> <mailto:bob.paddock@...>,
>>>>>>>>         "joel mcclain"
>>>>>>>>         <joel_76670@...> <mailto:joel_76670@...>,
>>>>>>>>         "Jon Gentry"
>>>>>>>>         <jongen422@...> <mailto:jongen422@...>,
>>>>>>>>         "Lane Wootan"
>>>>>>>>         <lanewootan@...> <mailto:lanewootan@...>,
>>>>>>>>         "Mbking42"
>>>>>>>>         <mbking42@...> <mailto:mbking42@....>,
>>>>>>>>         "Toby Grotz"
>>>>>>>>         <wireless2@...> <mailto:wireless2@...>,
>>>>>>>>         "Phil Rembold"
>>>>>>>>         <prembold@...> <mailto:prembold@....>,
>>>>>>>>         "Angel Alvarez"
>>>>>>>>         <angel@...> <mailto:angel@...>,
>>>>>>>>         "Fredric Fletcher"
>>>>>>>>         <ffletcher@...> <mailto:ffletcher@...>,
>>>>>>>>         [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         To understand the unwinding of a thread
>>>>>>>>         leading
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         to Magnetic
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         Generating Hydrogen and this Magnetic Battery,
>>>>>>>>         we have
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         to dust off
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         our� 9th grade Chemistry Books!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         http://www.rexresearch.com/ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm�����
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         I guess Dr.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         Ehrenhaft was the first to propose a Magnetic
>>>>>>>>         Current.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         (Jon
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         Gentry, Your liquid metal vortex helix).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         https://revolution-green.com/can-electrolysis-powered-magnets/������
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         Ah! Ha!� more on Magnetic Currents!!!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446..html
>>>>>>>>         <https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446.html>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         https://www.labmanager.com/white-papers-and-application-notes/2010/05/resistivity-conductivity-measurement-of-purified-water#.W9So9uJRc2w
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         https://www.askiitians.com/forums/Physical-Chemistry/19/19074/electro-che
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpotential
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         https://www.quora.com/Why-is-oxygen-molecule-paramagnetic-although-it-does-not-contain-any-unpaired-electron
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251580541_The_effect_of_magnetic_force_on_hydrogen_production_efficiency_in_water_electrolysis
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         http://www.physicscentral.com/experiment/physicsathome/electricwhirlpool.cfm
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         http://www.linux-host.org/energy/bmagpump.htm
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         Now Jon Gentry you have your liquid metal pump
>>>>>>>>         so
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         that you can
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         make the helix tube Vortex!�
>>>>>>>>         Ferricpetacarbonyl or
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         micro fine neo
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         powder to provide the liquid metal for pump
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         circuit.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         Lots of reading here!���� Please think
>>>>>>>>         about the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         ramifications of
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         a Magnetic Current as proposed by Dr.
>>>>>>>>         Ehrenhaft!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>

No!� Bart, never got into that exotic element stuff!� Just followed 
those that were!

On 11/10/2018 10:42 AM, bart woodard [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Hey Norm , your life's experiences have been fruitful!! Congrats!!
>
> Have you ever played with table top combinations� such as thorium and 
> fluoride or the molten salt combo?
>
> On a hobbyist basis approach?
>
> Rossi likes to inject nickel/mag� powder so as I see to maintain his 
> 1k output!.
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of 
> Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* November 9, 2018 3:12 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery [2 
> Attachments]
>
> Mick! To answer the rest of your questions: In that ARC process you 
> have to use carbon rods to yield the carbon monoxide & hydrogen.� 
> (carbon source) (arc is heat source).
>
> Holy Water was interesting part of the Elemental Replication 
> experiment. See:
>
> *Elemental Replication ?*
>
> **
>
> Around mid September I put together an electrolysis cell similar to 
> the Miles Nickel Cold Fusion Cell with the goal of exploring the 
> possibilities of making what is termed �Pristine Water�.This water 
> which will be used by Homeopaths will have had all memory or 
> information removed.This is accomplished by recombining monatomic 
> hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated in a properly designed 
> cell.This is the ultimate in purity since this is water with 
> conditions at the time of original creation.�Wholy Water�is a term 
> coined by my dear friend and fellow researcher Joe Tyls of Vancouver, 
> BC.After several weeks of successful operation producing water that 
> had all the earmarks of a true �pristine water� a fellow researcher 
> suggested using an alternate electrolyte.A solution was selected that 
> contained 77 colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the 
> easiest assimilated into the body.With the electrolyte changed the 
> cell was put back into operation as before with a nice recombination 
> burn and production of the sought after �pristine water�.
>
>
> The water produced in the recombination burn of the H-H-O was 
> collected from a silica glass condenser into a silica glass beaker for 
> sampling.� When you flipped several CCs of the water into your mouth 
> and tried to swallow, there was nothing there.� Hmmmm! We immediately 
> tested the viscosity and surface tension of the water and found it to 
> be far below human blood which means that the water diffused directly 
> into the capillaries around the tongue therefore nothing there to 
> swallow.� The two Doctor who were there were amazed. � To prove the 
> theory as to information carried by water, we collected a sample of 
> several CCs into a plastic lab cup instead of the silica glass beaker. 
> When you flipped the several CCs into your mouth you had to 
> immediately spit it out for it was pure taste of plastic. This water 
> picks up signature of anything it comes into contact with.� That is 
> why the Homeopathic Doctors wanted it for making their 
> tinctures.(signature of a healing agent). ��� We had all the necessary 
> instruments to evaluate the Pristine water. See: 
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemorheology
>
> Hemorheology - Wikipedia <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemorheology>
> en.m.wikipedia.org
> Blood viscosity is a measure of the resistance of blood to flow. It 
> can also be described as the thickness and stickiness of blood. This 
> biophysical property makes it a critical determinant of friction 
> against the vessel walls, the rate of venous return, the work required 
> for the heart to pump blood, and how much oxygen is transported to 
> tissues and organs.
>
> http://www.dynalenelabs.com/testing-services/thermal-testing/viscosity-rheology/?gclid=CjwKCAiA_ZTfBRBjEiwAN6YG4SdHu5bWZ9yHLBM9VNQ0TLl4tB1hOqMvR_dOEHNbGX6k_kDHHtb5xhoCgIgQAvD_BwE 
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tensiometer
>
> https://hydramotion.com/en/technical/units-of-viscosity
>
> I made an offer to the Doctors present that a small unit for 
> production of a liter/day of Pristine Water via complete unit built of 
> quartz glass could be had for $5,000. Apparently they were not that 
> enthused as we thought!� Oh! Well!
>
> I built numerous Pyramids of all sizes and the Orgone Accumulators and 
> even the Cloud Buster.�� The pyramid experiments were very interesting 
> for real effects were shown.�� Never tested whether water would break 
> after treatment by either Orgone� or pyramid.��� The complete 
> description of the 4 inch cell is in the Elemental replication Part 
> Two. See:
>
>
> Cell Description
>
> The electrolysis cell is designed to hold one (1) liter of electrolyte 
> and operate at approximately 150 watt power level for the production 
> of monatomic hydrogen andmonatomic oxygen which is burned back to pure 
> water and collected in a glass condenser.Cell container is schedule 40 
> PVC pipe section 6 inches long with bottom cap cemented on.The top of 
> the cell has a 4 inch female thread adapter cemented on to provide 
> access to the interior via a male threaded plug which has the gas 
> outlet port and two electrolyte fill ports to provide for replacement 
> of lost electrolyte on the fly for continuos operation.Positive and 
> negative terminals are provided for external connection of the power 
> supply leads to the internal anode- cathode stack.
>
> The cell plate stack consist of 8 anode plates and 8 cathode plates of 
> the following sizes constructed from 316L stainless steel of 22 ga. 
> thickness.
>
> 4 ea.3� X 3� plates,2 ea. 3� X 2.75�plates,2 ea. 3� X 2.5�plates,2 ea. 
> 3� X 2.25� plates,2 ea. 3� X 2� plates,2 ea. 3� X 1.75� plates, and2 
> ea. 3� X 1.5� plates.The plates are drilled and stacked with 
> alternating anode and cathode plates spaced 1/8� apart which makes a 
> cylindrical shaped array which fits nicely inside of the 4� ID PVCcell 
> container.Electrical leads are braided copper of #10 size which are 
> covered by shrink tubing to cover conductive surface as they pass 
> through the electrolyte to the cell terminal bolts.All electrical 
> surfaces other than the anode and cathode plates are carefully covered 
> with PVC cement to prevent deterioration from electrolyte 
> contact.Please note that if allowed to come into contact with 
> �charged� surfaces monatomic hydrogen and monatonic oxygen will 
> imediately form into their usual occuring state as diatomic H2 and O2 
> molecules.
>
>
> On 11/8/2018 4:29 PM, Mick [email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>> Hi Norm,
>>
>> The catalysts are very interesting.� Iron Cobalt and Nickel all 
>> ferromagnetic but at different spins.
>>
>> Correct me if I am wrong but based on reading your links a bingofuel 
>> type reactor using tungsten electrodes that hopefully would last much 
>> longer would likely produce OH rather than H and carbon monoxide, 
>> what do you think?
>>
>> Also water is strange indeed in that a pyramid or orgone accumulator 
>> changes it and these simple changes could make for water that breaks 
>> up more easily.� I would love to know what results you demonstrated 
>> with the totally juvenile memory free water you put back together 
>> from the OH?
>>
>> Sorry to hear about your neck fracture, I have a similar issue and it 
>> is extremely painful and debilitating at times.
>>
>> Mick
>>
>>
>> On 11/7/2018 4:15 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/7/2018 6:06 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Jakob Wall! & all other researchers on here need to read the Whole 
>>>> Story as to why I no longer have a research lab.� Jakob, I'm sorry 
>>>> I did not reveal to you the BEST in my opinion of methods of 
>>>> producing hydrogen gas for I felt it was a little too advanced and 
>>>> difficult for you to experiment with.� See: 
>>>> https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en .�� There is a 
>>>> very long story behind this US Patent and a hell of a lot of 
>>>> research. The quest for a very inexpensive method of splitting 
>>>> water has been the Holy Grail of� cheap energy.�� In addition to 
>>>> the research papers and links that I gave to you, here are some 
>>>> more to dwell on.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.researchgate.net/post/At_what_temperature_water_will_decompose_to_Oxygen_and_Hydrogen
>>>>
>>>> https://www.quora.com/Does-water-break-down-into-oxygen-and-hydrogen-at-high-temperatures-If-so-then-at-what-temperature
>>>>
>>>> https://www.quora.com/How-much-water-can-you-split-into-hydrogen-and-oxygen-using-electrolysis-with-one-kilowatt-hour-of-electricity
>>>>
>>>> http://www.redrok.com/hion96a1.htm
>>>>
>>>> https://www.nature.com/articles/nplants201741 Please read carefully 
>>>> about the play of Nickel in this approach!
>>>>
>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_splitting
>>>>
>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water-gas_shift_reaction I owned 77 
>>>> acres of land in Eureka Springs, AR where they still had the old 
>>>> water gas generator and gas storage facility.
>>>>
>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decarboxylation
>>>>
>>>> https://phys.org/news/2018-02-uncovers-mechanism-water-splitting-catalyst.html
>>>>
>>>> https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/new-catalyst-could-split-water-cheaply/
>>>>
>>>> https://www.technologyreview.com/s/512996/a-cheaper-way-to-make-hydrogen-from-water/
>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>> contacted at 38 Weir Rd, Wimbledon, London SW19 SUG, England or on 
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>>>>
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>>>> Super Steam Technology at the 1994 International Tesla Symposium. 
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>>>> kerosene, methanol, diesel, hydrogen or just about anything else 
>>>> that bums and converts virtually 100% of the fuel into usable 
>>>> energy. (Note: The person in the picture is Norman Wootan of MRA fame)
>>>>
>>>> This all sounds great, but how does it work? The basis of the unit 
>>>> is a specially designed open throat chamber with controlled air, 
>>>> water and fuel interaction and a high voltage ignition resulting in 
>>>> a direct fire process establishing thermal zones. This creates a 
>>>> stoichiometric condition resulting in a full spectrum of steam 
>>>> product. Now comes the interesting part At the increased 
>>>> temperatures of steam, disassociation occurs. (Could this be a clue 
>>>> to running cars on water??) The hydrogen and oxygen reacts causing 
>>>> an exponential increase of energy resulting in super heated steam. 
>>>> A similar superheat process was addressed by Tesla in the October 
>>>> 12, 1911 publication of the "Engineering News Record".
>>>>
>>>> Applications of the SST system include a much more economical way 
>>>> of producing electricity as no conventional boiler is needed. It 
>>>> will also be an ideal low cost method for heating and cooling homes 
>>>> and businesses. Small portable units can be developed for home use, 
>>>> such as steam cleaning, and insect and ant removal, without the 
>>>> dangers of insecticides. The system can also be used for low cost 
>>>> purification of polluted water or sewerage and can also convert 
>>>> salt water into drinking water both quickly and inexpensively. 
>>>> Other uses are in fire fighting applications, ice and snow removal 
>>>> from roads, etc. and sterilization and nurturing of soil for 
>>>> agriculture where contamination has occurred.
>>>>
>>>> I had designed a method of making hydrogen from carbon & water 
>>>> vapor using the Tesla Atomic Bombardment method of high frequency 
>>>> inside of spherical inclosure like this experiments with the carbon 
>>>> button lamp globes.�� After working with Leonard Dorsett and his 
>>>> Super Steam Project, I chose to use the Water Shift Process 
>>>> instead.� A side note is needed here!� The Super Steam Process was 
>>>> a result of Professor Brown studying the method the German's used 
>>>> for torpedo propulsion from WWI.� Acetylene Gas and sea water 
>>>> produced an exothermic reaction generating Super Steam. Brown built 
>>>> several reactors and tested them in the Tulsa area to break (down 
>>>> hole) the parafin deposits to release crude oil.
>>>>
>>>> The Chemical equation for the reaction in the US Patent: 
>>>> https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en
>>>>
>>>> *(6C + 12 H2O= 6CO2 + 24H) *
>>>>
>>>> Hydrogen Reactor Development
>>>>
>>>> **
>>>>
>>>> Original concept design was a high voltage, high frequency resonant 
>>>> device that utilized carbon water reaction with the feedstock being 
>>>> in the form of graphite rod stock.This unit was designed for 
>>>> vehicle application and had too many limitations to be used for 
>>>> mass hydrogen generation.This type reactor is very effective at 
>>>> hydrogen production since it targets the water vapor molecule at 
>>>> MRI frequencies, which breaks the bonding, allowing the carbon to 
>>>> latch onto the oxygen atoms leaving the hydrogen free. This device 
>>>> was a closed system that used a simple CO2/hydrogen separation 
>>>> stage that enabled the hydrogen to be feed to an internal 
>>>> combustion engine.
>>>>
>>>> **
>>>>
>>>> *To allow for a sustained high mass flow of hydrogen gas output, 
>>>> reactor design took on a radical change.By incorporating the 
>>>> Ranque/Hilsch, Counter Flow Implosion Vortex Principle, and 
>>>> continuous high mass flow and gas separation were achieved in one 
>>>> stage of operation.Feedstock for this type reactor could be any 
>>>> carbon-based material that could be put into a powder form.Highest 
>>>> carbon content of the feedstock provides for the most efficient 
>>>> hydrogen production with the least undesirable output material.*
>>>>
>>>> **
>>>>
>>>> *Super high temperature operating regime was chosen to be above 
>>>> 2500 C for the purpose of producing atomic hydrogen in the 
>>>> process.The original reactor operated at temperatures that easily 
>>>> gasified basic carbon into a plasma state (>10,000 F) more easily 
>>>> allowing the production of hydrogen from the stoichiometric feed 
>>>> stock ratios.*
>>>>
>>>> *
>>>> *
>>>>
>>>> **
>>>>
>>>> I sold one of my Patents (Sonodiffuser) and paid for my 52 acres of 
>>>> land and built a 5200 sq. Ft. lab the do the Prototype machining 
>>>> and Proof of Concept testing for GAZPROM, Moscow in 2005. A $1.2 
>>>> million investment and they got the rights to the process and I got 
>>>> the beautiful Research Lab all paid in full. I was a self employed 
>>>> Contractor in Dallas working with HVAC, Electrical and Electronics 
>>>> Maintenance so had to commute 170 miles/day and only had the week 
>>>> ends for my time! Having to mow grass and maintane the 52 acres 
>>>> took all my time and when I suffered a neck fracture in 2012, had 
>>>> to retire. Liquidated the entire facility and sold it off. Moved to 
>>>> Dallas then to South Louisiana where I now do a lot of relaxing and 
>>>> fishing!
>>>>
>>>> Hector and ALL, I did my time in the Barrel so now I will just 
>>>> contribute to the dialog inorder to assist any research you may be 
>>>> doing within my area of experitise! BTW! I have been out to pasture 
>>>> for a long time now, so no BULL offense!� As Hector knows, "It 
>>>> fits"! Lol
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes! Hector, I will wear my Border Patrol Hat when you come visit 
>>>> from PR!� Lol
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11/6/2018 8:52 PM, [email protected] 
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> By the way ... i can hit mega millions or the power ball� . i 
>>>>> never will not have a lab i can work in,� that is worst than death 
>>>>> , you have no idea of the technology that had being lost by the 
>>>>> greedy fucking bastards fucking my life , they will loose all they 
>>>>> have� "soon" because it had being engineered that way by 
>>>>> accumulative bad karma, i have another lab they will never reach 
>>>>> or be able to intercept or destroy and that will decide their fate 
>>>>> ..... they will be fucked hard !
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> (H)
>>>>>
>>>>> ---In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>, 
>>>>> <mkjekyll@...> <mailto:mkjekyll@...> wrote :
>>>>>
>>>>> Cmon Hector,
>>>>>
>>>>> Bad taste!
>>>>>
>>>>> The man had a more serious lab than anyone else here and his work 
>>>>> speaks for itself. Maybe he has gained the fortune he desired 
>>>>> through R&D and now shitting in tall cotton or gone fishing 
>>>>> reaping the rewards of retirement. Notwithstanding is still kind 
>>>>> enough to help point us in the right directions around here.
>>>>>
>>>>> "*Funny�I can look back on a life of achievement, on challenges 
>>>>> met, competitors bested, obstacles overcome. I�ve accomplished 
>>>>> more than most men, and without the use of my legs. What?What 
>>>>> makes a man, Mr. Lebowski?"*
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/6/2018 8:04 AM, arkresearch@... <mailto:arkresearch@...> 
>>>>> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>     Dar n ! a Scientist inventor with no lab is like a breeding
>>>>>>     bull with no balls !
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Balls Cow GIF - Balls Cow WingDangDoodle GIFs
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     ---In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>,
>>>>>>     <nwootan@...> <mailto:nwootan@...> wrote :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Jacob! You asked me a question and I gave you my opinion!�
>>>>>>     I'm totally retired at 80 years old and have no lab to
>>>>>>     experiment in! Your quote; I heard once a phrase from a
>>>>>>     researcher who said. '' Slow down boy, we get paid for
>>>>>>     llooking for solutions, not to find them!'' That certainly
>>>>>>     does not apply to me for I have shared all with the folks on
>>>>>>     this site.� I find you statement very interesting: Technics
>>>>>>     that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours with usual amount of
>>>>>>     gas looks to me extremely inefficient. ??????������� Care to
>>>>>>     share where you saw the power of a permanent magnet being
>>>>>>     used up! We all here on this site share what ever knowledge
>>>>>>     we have on the various subjects not seeking any monetary gain
>>>>>>     in any way! That is my approach!�� I just contribute to the
>>>>>>     dialog when I run across something interesting and think it
>>>>>>     will assist you guys! Norm
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     On 11/3/2018 11:32 PM, Jakob Wall wall_jakob@...
>>>>>>     <mailto:wall_jakob@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         Thanks Norman,
>>>>>>>         But i actually asced for ''most efficient way'' to split
>>>>>>>         water known to you!
>>>>>>>         I realize there are a lot of different technigues to do
>>>>>>>         just that.
>>>>>>>         And yes i realize you could give me a rather complex
>>>>>>>         answer. But instead i hope for a
>>>>>>>         rather easy and reproductive answer since i am looking
>>>>>>>         forward to solve my enerrgy
>>>>>>>         problems i just can not live with the momentary (sad and
>>>>>>>         very stupid energy situation)
>>>>>>>         I am still not giving up becouse of a couple mistakes
>>>>>>>         and misunderstandings.
>>>>>>>         If i would be a car dealer and you would ask me for a
>>>>>>>         most efficient car available on the market
>>>>>>>         i would for sure not recommend a Prius, since there are
>>>>>>>         a lot of cars with better fuel economie
>>>>>>>         even without being a hybrid and without additional cost
>>>>>>>         like batterys,e-motors and a bunch added ECU's
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours with
>>>>>>>         usual amount of gas looks to me extremely
>>>>>>>         inefficient.
>>>>>>>         Also very expensive HHO-Garage products with output of
>>>>>>>         1,6 ltr/min.
>>>>>>>         Come on, 6 rusty nails and a old car batery does this
>>>>>>>         job, no need to spend 1600 bucks on it.
>>>>>>>         I honestly expected solide advise or a honest NO way
>>>>>>>         boy, i just talking around.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. ''
>>>>>>>         Slow down boy, we get paid for llooking for
>>>>>>>         solutions, not to find them!'' That shoked me deeply and
>>>>>>>         even if i get 150 years old, i will not forget it.
>>>>>>>         Thats true treason on mankind and deciving the people. I
>>>>>>>         really hope nobody on this forum only care
>>>>>>>         about what he/she will be doing tomorrow.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         Jakob
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         --------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>         On Sun, 10/28/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>>>>         <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery
>>>>>>>         To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]>, "Bert Pool"
>>>>>>>         <BertPool512@...> <mailto:BertPool512@...>, "Bob
>>>>>>>         Paddock" <bob.paddock@...> <mailto:bob.paddock@...>,
>>>>>>>         "joel mcclain" <joel_76670@...> <mailto:joel_76670@...>,
>>>>>>>         "Jon Gentry" <jongen422@...> <mailto:jongen422@...>,
>>>>>>>         "Mbking42" <mbking42@...> <mailto:mbking42@...>, "Toby
>>>>>>>         Grotz" <wireless2@...> <mailto:wireless2@...>, "Phil
>>>>>>>         Rembold" <prembold@...> <mailto:prembold@...>, "Angel
>>>>>>>         Alvarez" <angel@...> <mailto:angel@...>, "Fredric
>>>>>>>         Fletcher" <ffletcher@...> <mailto:ffletcher@...>
>>>>>>>         Received: Sunday, October 28, 2018, 9:44 AM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         Jacob!� That would be a rather complex answer
>>>>>>>         but here is your
>>>>>>>         starting point!
>>>>>>>         https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct-thermomagnetic-splitting-of-water-.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         After having been heavily involved in the COLD FUSION
>>>>>>>         Research
>>>>>>>         back in the 70s and 80s I quickly settled o0n the best
>>>>>>>         catalyst in
>>>>>>>         electrolytic cells which is pure nickel. I still have
>>>>>>>         the cell
>>>>>>>         used in the Elemental Replication experiments.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm
>>>>>>>         The hidden
>>>>>>>         part of this research is the use of a nickel component
>>>>>>>         in the
>>>>>>>         combustion chamber. Bosch developed 90,000V ignition
>>>>>>>         systems to
>>>>>>>         enable water injection in gas engine which high
>>>>>>>         lighted the
>>>>>>>         Graneau HV decomposition of water via HVDC
>>>>>>>         discharge!
>>>>>>>         My magnetic Battery when run as an electrolytic cell
>>>>>>>         to produce
>>>>>>>         hydrogen does produce a huge amount of hydrogen gas as
>>>>>>>         shown by
>>>>>>>         the Dr. Ehrenhaft document.� I would tell you to
>>>>>>>         pursue the super
>>>>>>>         high Tesla magnetic flux and nickel electrodes in an
>>>>>>>         electrolytic
>>>>>>>         cell.� The major obstacle to be overcome is the rapid
>>>>>>>         collection
>>>>>>>         of ions from solution by the 1.3 Tesla flux across a
>>>>>>>         .020"
>>>>>>>         mechanical gap which quickly takes the cell into a
>>>>>>>         super-conduction mode which takes out the driving DC
>>>>>>>         power supply.
>>>>>>>         You can flush the magnetic gaps with distilled water
>>>>>>>         and the gaps
>>>>>>>         will show in the meg-ohm range then go to zero ohms
>>>>>>>         after a short
>>>>>>>         period of running, the gathered ions totally short
>>>>>>>         cell. During
>>>>>>>         the brief runs there is a huge amount of hydrogen gas
>>>>>>>         produced
>>>>>>>         which I burned off as it was generated. Much can be
>>>>>>>         said about
>>>>>>>         driving the cell with high frequencies as the Myers
>>>>>>>         research
>>>>>>>         showed.� Our friend up in Canada at George Wiseman,
>>>>>>>         Eagle Research
>>>>>>>         is running well ahead of the crowd on the production
>>>>>>>         of H-H-O.
>>>>>>>         Just for giggles!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         16 October
>>>>>>>         1996
>>>>>>>         To: Hal
>>>>>>>         Fox,� Fusion Facts
>>>>>>>         Elemental
>>>>>>>         Replication ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         ����� Around mid
>>>>>>>         September
>>>>>>>         I put together an
>>>>>>>         electrolysis cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold
>>>>>>>         Fusion Cell
>>>>>>>         with the goal of
>>>>>>>         exploring the possibilities of making what is
>>>>>>>         termed �Pristine
>>>>>>>         Water�.�� This water
>>>>>>>         which will be used by Homeopaths
>>>>>>>         will have had all memory or information
>>>>>>>         removed.� This is accomplished by
>>>>>>>         recombining monatomic
>>>>>>>         hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated in a
>>>>>>>         properly
>>>>>>>         designed cell.� This is
>>>>>>>         the ultimate in purity since this is
>>>>>>>         water with conditions at the time of original
>>>>>>>         creation. �Holly Water�is a term
>>>>>>>         coined by my dear
>>>>>>>         friend and fellow researcher Joe Tyls of
>>>>>>>         Vancouver, BC.�� After several weeks of
>>>>>>>         successful operation
>>>>>>>         producing water that had all the earmarks of a
>>>>>>>         true �pristine
>>>>>>>         water� a fellow
>>>>>>>         researcher suggested using an alternate
>>>>>>>         electrolyte. A solution was selected
>>>>>>>         that contained 77
>>>>>>>         colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the
>>>>>>>         easiest
>>>>>>>         assimilated into the
>>>>>>>         body.�� With the
>>>>>>>         electrolyte changed the
>>>>>>>         cell was put back into operation as before with a
>>>>>>>         nice
>>>>>>>         recombination burn and
>>>>>>>         production of the sought after �pristine
>>>>>>>         water�.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         ��� After about an
>>>>>>>         hour of
>>>>>>>         operation the cell
>>>>>>>         went absolutely �nuts� with the temperature
>>>>>>>         rapidly climbing
>>>>>>>         to boiling point
>>>>>>>         and the current out of sight.
>>>>>>>         When the
>>>>>>>         cell was opened we found a deep red sludge deposit
>>>>>>>         which
>>>>>>>         shorted the cell
>>>>>>>         plates.�� Our first
>>>>>>>         thought was that the
>>>>>>>         electrolytic action precipitated out the colloidal
>>>>>>>         minerals
>>>>>>>         which caused the
>>>>>>>         deposit found.�� The
>>>>>>>         electrolyte was allowed
>>>>>>>         to settle out the
>>>>>>>         precipitate. After
>>>>>>>         decanting off,� the clear electrolyte
>>>>>>>         was
>>>>>>>         returned to the
>>>>>>>         cell for another run. Again the cell operated
>>>>>>>         normally for
>>>>>>>         about an hour with a
>>>>>>>         normal recombination burn and recovery of the
>>>>>>>         water being
>>>>>>>         consumed by the cell
>>>>>>>         in the splitting action. Again
>>>>>>>         the cell
>>>>>>>         temperature and current mirrored the first
>>>>>>>         run.
>>>>>>>         Again the cell contained the same amount of
>>>>>>>         sludge
>>>>>>>         residue. This process
>>>>>>>         was repeated ten (10) times
>>>>>>>         with exactly the same results.
>>>>>>>         All of
>>>>>>>         the sludge was carefully dried and weighed on an
>>>>>>>         electronic
>>>>>>>         scale with a five
>>>>>>>         decimal
>>>>>>>         resolution.
>>>>>>>         The cell plates and all hardware were
>>>>>>>         weighed to
>>>>>>>         determine any loss of
>>>>>>>         mass that may contribute to the mass gain observed
>>>>>>>         in the
>>>>>>>         sludge.� Five hundred
>>>>>>>         (500) ml of the original
>>>>>>>         electrolyte solution used in the cell was vacuum
>>>>>>>         distilled to
>>>>>>>         determine the
>>>>>>>         exact mass of colloidal minerals
>>>>>>>         contained.
>>>>>>>         When all factors were considered we came
>>>>>>>         out with a
>>>>>>>         mass gain of 48 gm
>>>>>>>         which cannot be explained by
>>>>>>>         conventional
>>>>>>>         electrolysis.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         ��� After talking
>>>>>>>         to Dr.
>>>>>>>         Robert Bass and Hal
>>>>>>>         Fox I learned of a patent that has been filed on
>>>>>>>         the
>>>>>>>         transmutation of elements
>>>>>>>         in the cold fusion cell which is the process that
>>>>>>>         Dr. John
>>>>>>>         Bockris has been so
>>>>>>>         active in. Both Dr.
>>>>>>>         Bass and Hal Fox
>>>>>>>         stated that what I was observing is not the same
>>>>>>>         as the
>>>>>>>         transmutation observed
>>>>>>>         in the cold fusion cell since I have a overall
>>>>>>>         mass gain and
>>>>>>>         not a lateral
>>>>>>>         movement of elements in the periodic table toward
>>>>>>>         lighter
>>>>>>>         elements with a
>>>>>>>         resulting heat release.� This
>>>>>>>         unusual
>>>>>>>         cell operation has caused quite a reaction in the
>>>>>>>         scientific
>>>>>>>         community. �At this
>>>>>>>         time I have built a complete new cell
>>>>>>>         with every possible factor which could possibly
>>>>>>>         explain the
>>>>>>>         mass gain
>>>>>>>         considered and documented. The
>>>>>>>         ten (10)
>>>>>>>         consecutive runs on the new cell will be completed
>>>>>>>         soon and a
>>>>>>>         report will be
>>>>>>>         forthcoming. What is
>>>>>>>         interesting about
>>>>>>>         this phenomenon is that when an eleventh run was
>>>>>>>         made with the
>>>>>>>         original
>>>>>>>         electrolyte exactly the same amount of residue was
>>>>>>>         recovered
>>>>>>>         as in the previous
>>>>>>>         ten
>>>>>>>         runs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         Since
>>>>>>>         the same electrolyte is reused each time with only
>>>>>>>         distilled
>>>>>>>         water being added
>>>>>>>         to replace the volume lost by the removal of the
>>>>>>>         solids and
>>>>>>>         the water recovered
>>>>>>>         by the recombination burn we are hard pressed to
>>>>>>>         explain the
>>>>>>>         observed
>>>>>>>         phenomenon.���� The
>>>>>>>         electrolyte appears
>>>>>>>         stronger in mineral concentration and shows no
>>>>>>>         sign of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         depletion.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         �� After conferring
>>>>>>>         with
>>>>>>>         Joe Tyls we arrived at
>>>>>>>         the conclusion that the 77 colloidal minerals
>>>>>>>         contained in the
>>>>>>>         electrolyte
>>>>>>>         provide the atomic templates needed for the
>>>>>>>         monatomic hydrogen
>>>>>>>         (father of all
>>>>>>>         the elements) to replicate selected elements in
>>>>>>>         this exotic
>>>>>>>         mixture.� If you
>>>>>>>         subscribe to the theories of the late
>>>>>>>         Walter Russell and his explanation of the octave
>>>>>>>         based
>>>>>>>         periodic table with
>>>>>>>         monatonic hydrogen being what he describes as
>>>>>>>         hydrons
>>>>>>>         (precursor to hydrogen)
>>>>>>>         then it is possible for the replication of
>>>>>>>         elements directly
>>>>>>>         from energy input
>>>>>>>         alone.� This is how all
>>>>>>>         matter was
>>>>>>>         created in the beginning as described by
>>>>>>>         Schappeller in �The
>>>>>>>         Physics of the
>>>>>>>         Primary State of Matter�. I
>>>>>>>         will keep
>>>>>>>         all informed as to our progress and findings in
>>>>>>>         this very
>>>>>>>         intriguing venture.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         Norman
>>>>>>>         Wootan
>>>>>>>         P.O.
>>>>>>>         Box 141049
>>>>>>>         Dallas,
>>>>>>>         TX 75214
>>>>>>>         (214)
>>>>>>>         360-0865
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         CC:� Gene Mallove,
>>>>>>>         Infinite
>>>>>>>         Energy
>>>>>>>         CC:� Dr. John
>>>>>>>         Bockris, Texas
>>>>>>>         A/M
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         On 10/28/2018 1:01 AM,
>>>>>>>         Jakob Wall
>>>>>>>         wall_jakob@... <mailto:wall_jakob@...>
>>>>>>>         [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         Thanks Norman,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         BTW, what is the most effective water split
>>>>>>>         device that
>>>>>>>         you ever put you hands on?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         As HHO researcher for dekades you should be
>>>>>>>         able to point
>>>>>>>         us directly to the most effective known!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         Please be specific about reconstruction of the
>>>>>>>         same, since
>>>>>>>         we are in public domain it will become public
>>>>>>>         knowledge
>>>>>>>         and public good. I assume you intend nothing
>>>>>>>         else,rigth ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         --------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         On Sat, 10/27/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>>>>         <mailto:nwootan@...>
>>>>>>>         [EVGRAY]
>>>>>>>         <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>>         wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's
>>>>>>>         Magnetic
>>>>>>>         Battery [3 Attachments]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         To: "Bert Pool" <BertPool512@...> <mailto:BertPool512@...>,
>>>>>>>         "Bob
>>>>>>>         Paddock" <bob.paddock@...> <mailto:bob.paddock@...>,
>>>>>>>         "joel mcclain"
>>>>>>>         <joel_76670@...> <mailto:joel_76670@...>,
>>>>>>>         "Jon Gentry"
>>>>>>>         <jongen422@...> <mailto:jongen422@...>,
>>>>>>>         "Lane Wootan"
>>>>>>>         <lanewootan@...> <mailto:lanewootan@...>,
>>>>>>>         "Mbking42"
>>>>>>>         <mbking42@...> <mailto:mbking42@...>,
>>>>>>>         "Toby Grotz"
>>>>>>>         <wireless2@...> <mailto:wireless2@...>,
>>>>>>>         "Phil Rembold"
>>>>>>>         <prembold@...> <mailto:prembold@...>,
>>>>>>>         "Angel Alvarez"
>>>>>>>         <angel@...> <mailto:angel@...>,
>>>>>>>         "Fredric Fletcher"
>>>>>>>         <ffletcher@...> <mailto:ffletcher@...>,
>>>>>>>         [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         To understand the unwinding of a thread
>>>>>>>         leading
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         to Magnetic
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         Generating Hydrogen and this Magnetic Battery,
>>>>>>>         we have
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         to dust off
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         our� 9th grade Chemistry Books!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         http://www.rexresearch.com/ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         I guess Dr.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         Ehrenhaft was the first to propose a Magnetic
>>>>>>>         Current.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         (Jon
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         Gentry, Your liquid metal vortex helix).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         https://revolution-green.com/can-electrolysis-powered-magnets/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         Ah! Ha!� more on Magnetic Currents!!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         https://www.labmanager.com/white-papers-and-application-notes/2010/05/resistivity-conductivity-measurement-of-purified-water#.W9So9uJRc2w
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         https://www.askiitians.com/forums/Physical-Chemistry/19/19074/electro-che
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpotential
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         https://www.quora.com/Why-is-oxygen-molecule-paramagnetic-although-it-does-not-contain-any-unpaired-electron
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251580541_The_effect_of_magnetic_force_on_hydrogen_production_efficiency_in_water_electrolysis
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         http://www.physicscentral.com/experiment/physicsathome/electricwhirlpool.cfm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         http://www.linux-host.org/energy/bmagpump.htm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         Now Jon Gentry you have your liquid metal pump
>>>>>>>         so
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         that you can
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         make the helix tube Vortex!
>>>>>>>         Ferricpetacarbonyl or
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         micro fine neo
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         powder to provide the liquid metal for pump
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         circuit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         Lots of reading here! Please think
>>>>>>>         about the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         ramifications of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         a Magnetic Current as proposed by Dr.
>>>>>>>         Ehrenhaft!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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Bart,

Tell your friend-Even if ethically swayed by grant money, professors can
be human too, or maybe long ago they once were.

Is there any procedure you utilize to determine if the ghost elements
are carcinogenic or not?

What is the best material for the magnetic stirrer? 

I think many are polyethylene coated due to it's inert nature.

I recently acquired this water distiller. I have seen these used in two
places with tap water in Southern California and the crap on the bottom
stunk and was brown and crusty.  When I use the distiller with my
processed water the bottom of the unit is clean but for a few drop of
something I have been collecting in a glass.   We live in Oregon in the
mountains not near any old mines or chemical sites so the water is
pretty pristine except for a high concentration of minerals and manganese.

The stuff left in the distiller has a flowery smell so I think it make
be sapogens from plants or oils from minerals, maybe just info fields
trying to recombine.


On 11/10/2018 12:31 PM, bart woodard [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> Hi Mick,
>
>   Well needless to say... you are charged lol!
>
> All water from any where has different values with different mineral
> combinations.
>
> So whether its been RO then distilled it will still continue with
> carrying its trace like (ghost)  elements. You are only looking at ppm
> or parts per million.
>
> Not parts per billion and so on. Some say parts per google!
>
> Unfortunately most will be carcinogenic due to its weight like or
> charges needed to extend itself  tho not all will.
>
> Even so with the stirrer the vortex will create an implosion enhancing
> the ghost like values remaining.
>
> The molecule will become broken down to several sizes smaller , lets
> say 5 times approximately or less or greater than.
>
> The four principles of play come in effect.
>
> *The Four Fundamental Forces and their strengths*
>
>   * Gravitational Force – Weakest force; but infinite range. ( Not
>     part of standard model)
>   * Weak Nuclear Force – Next weakest; but short range.
>   * Electromagnetic Force – Stronger, with infinite range.
>   * Strong Nuclear Force – Strongest; but short range.
>
> With in the molecule it has a characteristic tendency so as not to
> enhance its ph factor with straight on electrical simulated charges.
>
> We can not for now mimic the frequency  water likes to evolve to
> sustain itself at keeping it at a stabilized value with in.
>
> So circuit wise or electronically it is only a short life the ph may
> be increased . Tho I have not ventured out lately.
>
> Its been several years for me so forgive my sloppy answers on
> recalling the research done.
>
> Magnetic values are best used for the best overall out come. The
> molecule stabilizes itself after a would be spike ( Brownian Motion).
>
> Distilled that's  acidic at 6.2  can be elevated to 7.4 after it hits
> 8.5 or so give or take.
>
> It can stabilize itself to 7.4 which is where I like it to be for
> consumption.
>
> Tap water, well water etc will go to ammonia like, say right up to 14-
> 15- ph.
>
> Good for paint stripping lol.
>
> So distilled @ 0 ppm  will go to 3ppm or more as well as the ph increase.
>
> I do not want to use RO as its values can be anywhere.
>
> The clustering effect has all the values as in one make up volume.
>
> So you get it all , all charges , but mostly enhanced as our body only
> keeps the larger values and discharges the unwanted ones .
>
> We discharge positive and maintain negative values.
>
> In another words you get it all good with the bad. But still better
> than a too high ph value as this can burn your cilia and enzymes
>
> with all and good and bad acids in digestion values.
>
> Our mitochondria will only accept values approx one micron , so water
> at five or more times smaller hydrates our cells more easily.
>
> Thus delivering any value needed to cells requiring assistance.
>
> Hope this has some value some-wheres lol
>
> As I said its been a while.
>
> Bart
>
> PS  A prof just showed up while I am typing this laughing at me .
>
>         He says to add that the sun feels symbiotic to earth as it
> senses we are out of sync so its releasing more flares.
>
> I told him its the hydrogen intent! lol
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of
> Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* November 10 
>  
>
> Bart,
>
> Your information including on your cat is very interesting.  I have
> been using distilled water that is first softened and then RO  then
> distilled beginning from my well.   It has a similar "drying" effect
> as norms wholly water though not as pronounced.
>
> Could you please provide more information on your experiments
> concerning distilled water and using the magnetic stirrer and how that
> alkalizes the water?   The NMR and parahydrogen post if very long
> winded so difficult for me to get the gist of your presentation.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mick
>
>
> On 11/10/2018 10:37 AM, bart woodard [email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>  
>>
>> I use a magnetic stirrer with distilled and wait for the ph to rise,
>> the results are immediate.
>>
>> https://hannainst.com/hi190m-1-magnetic-mini-stirrer.html
>>
>> Mini Magnetic Stirrer (115V) - HI190M-1 - Hanna Instruments
>> <https://hannainst.com/hi190m-1-magnetic-mini-stirrer.html>
>> hannainst.com
>> Compact. Lightweight. This mini magnetic stirrer with plastic cover
>> can stir up to 1 liter. Big power, small footprint. Perfect for any lab!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> on behalf of
>> Norman Wootan [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
>> *Sent:* November 10, 2018 12:34 PM
>> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>> *Subject:* Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery [2
>> Attachments]
>>  
>>  
>>
>> No!� Bart, never got into that exotic element stuff!� Just
>> followed those that were!
>>
>> On 11/10/2018 10:42 AM, bart woodard [email protected]
>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>> �
>>>
>>> Hey Norm , your life's experiences have been fruitful!! Congrats!!
>>>
>>> Have you ever played with table top combinations� such as thorium
>>> and fluoride or the molten salt combo?
>>>
>>> On a hobbyist� basis approach?
>>>
>>> Rossi likes to inject nickel/mag� powder so as I see to maintain
>>> his 1k output!.
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> *From:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> on behalf
>>> of Norman Wootan [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
>>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>> *Sent:* November 9, 2018 3:12 PM
>>> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>> *Subject:* Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery [2
>>> Attachments]
>>> �
>>> �
>>>
>>> Mick! To answer the rest of your questions:� In that ARC process
>>> you have to use carbon rods to yield the carbon monoxide &
>>> hydrogen.� (carbon source) (arc is heat source).
>>>
>>> Holy Water was interesting part of the Elemental Replication
>>> experiment. See:�
>>>
>>> *Elemental Replication ?*
>>>
>>> *�*
>>>
>>> ����� Around mid September I put together an electrolysis
>>> cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold Fusion Cell with the goal of
>>> exploring the possibilities of making what is termed �Pristine
>>> Water�.�� This water which will be used by Homeopaths will
>>> have had all memory or information removed.� This is accomplished
>>> by recombining monatomic hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated
>>> in a properly designed cell.� This is the ultimate in purity since
>>> this is water with conditions at the time of original creation.�
>>> �Wholy Water�is a term coined by my dear friend and fellow
>>> researcher Joe Tyls of Vancouver, BC.�� After several weeks of
>>> successful operation producing water that had all the earmarks of a
>>> true �pristine water� a fellow researcher suggested using an
>>> alternate electrolyte.�� A solution was selected that contained
>>> 77 colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the easiest
>>> assimilated into the body.�� With the electrolyte changed the
>>> cell was put back into operation as before with a nice recombination
>>> burn and production of the sought after �pristine water�.���
>>>
>>>
>>> The water produced in the recombination burn of the H-H-O was
>>> collected from a silica glass condenser into a silica glass beaker
>>> for sampling.� When you flipped several CCs of the water into your
>>> mouth and tried to swallow, there was nothing there.� Hmmmm!� We
>>> immediately tested the viscosity and surface tension of the water
>>> and found it to be far below human blood which means that the water
>>> diffused directly into the capillaries around the tongue therefore
>>> nothing there to swallow.� The two Doctor who were there were
>>> amazed. � To prove the theory as to information carried by water,
>>> we collected a sample of several CCs into a plastic lab cup instead
>>> of the silica glass beaker. When you flipped the several CCs into
>>> your mouth you had to immediately spit it out for it was pure taste
>>> of plastic. This water picks up signature of anything it comes into
>>> contact with.� That is why the Homeopathic Doctors wanted it for
>>> making their tinctures.��� (signature of a healing agent).
>>> ��� We had all the necessary instruments to evaluate the
>>> Pristine water. See: �
>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemorheology
>>> <https://en..m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemorheology>
>>>
>>> Hemorheology - Wikipedia <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemorheology>
>>> en.m.wikipedia.org
>>> Blood viscosity is a measure of the resistance of blood to flow. It
>>> can also be described as the thickness and stickiness of blood. This
>>> biophysical property makes it a critical determinant of friction
>>> against the vessel walls, the rate of venous return, the work
>>> required for the heart to pump blood, and how much oxygen is
>>> transported to tissues and organs.
>>>
>>> ��
>>> http://www.dynalenelabs.com/testing-services/thermal-testing/viscosity-rheology/?gclid=CjwKCAiA_ZTfBRBjEiwAN6YG4SdHu5bWZ9yHLBM9VNQ0TLl4tB1hOqMvR_dOEHNbGX6k_kDHHtb5xhoCgIgQAvD_BwE
>>> �������� https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tensiometer
>>> <https://en..m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tensiometer>
>>>
>>> � https://hydramotion.com/en/technical/units-of-viscosity
>>>
>>> I made an offer to the Doctors present that a small unit for
>>> production of a liter/day of Pristine Water via complete unit built
>>> of quartz glass could be had for $5,000. Apparently they were not
>>> that enthused as we thought!� Oh! Well!
>>>
>>> I built numerous Pyramids of all sizes and the Orgone Accumulators
>>> and even the Cloud� Buster.�� The pyramid experiments were
>>> very interesting for real effects were shown.�� Never tested
>>> whether water would� break after treatment by either Orgone� or
>>> pyramid.��� The complete description of the 4 inch cell is in
>>> the Elemental replication Part Two. See:
>>>
>>>
>>> Cell Description
>>>
>>> �
>>>
>>> ��� The electrolysis cell is designed to hold one (1) liter of
>>> electrolyte and operate at approximately 150 watt power level for
>>> the production of monatomic hydrogen and� monatomic oxygen which
>>> is burned back to pure water and collected in a glass condenser.�
>>> Cell container is schedule 40 PVC pipe section 6 inches long with
>>> bottom cap cemented on.� The top of the cell has a 4 inch female
>>> thread adapter cemented on to provide access to the interior via a
>>> male threaded plug which has the gas outlet port and two electrolyte
>>> fill ports to provide for replacement of lost electrolyte on the fly
>>> for continuos operation.� Positive and negative terminals are
>>> provided for external connection of the power supply leads to the
>>> internal anode- cathode stack.
>>>
>>> ��� The cell plate stack consist of 8 anode plates and 8
>>> cathode plates of the following sizes constructed from 316L
>>> stainless steel of 22 ga. thickness.
>>>
>>> 4 ea.� 3� X 3� plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 2.75�plates,� 2 ea.
>>> 3� X 2.5�plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 2.25� plates,� 2 ea. 3� X
>>> 2� plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 1.75� plates, and� 2 ea. 3� X
>>> 1.5� plates.� The plates are drilled and stacked with
>>> alternating anode and cathode plates spaced 1/8� apart which makes
>>> a cylindrical shaped array which fits nicely inside of the 4� ID
>>> PVC� cell container.� Electrical leads are braided copper of #10
>>> size which are covered by shrink tubing to cover conductive surface
>>> as they pass through the electrolyte to the cell terminal bolts.�
>>> All electrical surfaces other than the anode and cathode plates are
>>> carefully covered with PVC cement to prevent deterioration from
>>> electrolyte contact.��� Please note that if allowed to come
>>> into contact with �charged� surfaces monatomic hydrogen and
>>> monatonic oxygen will imediately form into their usual occuring
>>> state as diatomic H2 and O2 molecules.
>>>
>>> ���������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/8/2018 4:29 PM, Mick [email protected]
>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>> �
>>>>
>>>> Hi Norm,
>>>>
>>>> The catalysts are very interesting.� Iron Cobalt and Nickel all
>>>> ferromagnetic but at different spins.
>>>>
>>>> Correct me if I am wrong but based on reading your links a
>>>> bingofuel type reactor using tungsten electrodes that hopefully
>>>> would last much longer would likely produce OH rather than H and
>>>> carbon monoxide, what do you think?
>>>>
>>>> Also water is strange indeed in that a pyramid or orgone
>>>> accumulator changes it and these simple changes could make for
>>>> water that breaks up more easily.� I would love to know what
>>>> results you demonstrated with the totally juvenile memory free
>>>> water you put back together from the OH?�
>>>>
>>>> Sorry to hear about your neck fracture, I have a similar issue and
>>>> it is extremely painful and debilitating at times.
>>>>
>>>> Mick
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11/7/2018 4:15 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected]
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>> �
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/7/2018 6:06 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jakob Wall! & all other researchers on here need to read the
>>>>>> Whole Story as to why I no longer have a research lab.� Jakob,
>>>>>> I'm sorry I did not reveal to you the BEST in my opinion of
>>>>>> methods of producing hydrogen gas for I felt it was a little too
>>>>>> advanced and difficult for you to experiment with.� See:
>>>>>> https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en .�� There is
>>>>>> a very long story behind this US Patent and a hell of a lot of
>>>>>> research. The quest for a very inexpensive method of splitting
>>>>>> water has been the Holy Grail of� cheap energy.�� In
>>>>>> addition to the research papers and links that I gave to you,
>>>>>> here are some more to dwell on.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.researchgate.net/post/At_what_temperature_water_will_decompose_to_Oxygen_and_Hydrogen
>>>>>> <https://www..researchgate.net/post/At_what_temperature_water_will_decompose_to_Oxygen_and_Hydrogen>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.quora.com/Does-water-break-down-into-oxygen-and-hydrogen-at-high-temperatures-If-so-then-at-what-temperature
>>>>>> <https://www..quora.com/Does-water-break-down-into-oxygen-and-hydrogen-at-high-temperatures-If-so-then-at-what-temperature>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.quora.com/How-much-water-can-you-split-into-hydrogen-and-oxygen-using-electrolysis-with-one-kilowatt-hour-of-electricity
>>>>>> <https://www..quora.com/How-much-water-can-you-split-into-hydrogen-and-oxygen-using-electrolysis-with-one-kilowatt-hour-of-electricity>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.redrok.com/hion96a1.htm
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.nature.com/articles/nplants201741
>>>>>> <https://www..nature.com/articles/nplants201741>�� Please
>>>>>> read carefully about the play of Nickel in this approach!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_splitting
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water-gas_shift_reaction���
>>>>>> I owned 77 acres of land in Eureka Springs, AR where they still
>>>>>> had the old water gas generator and gas storage facility.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decarboxylation
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://phys.org/news/2018-02-uncovers-mechanism-water-splitting-catalyst.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/new-catalyst-could-split-water-cheaply/
>>>>>> <https://www..scientificamerican.com/article/new-catalyst-could-split-water-cheaply/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.technologyreview.com/s/512996/a-cheaper-way-to-make-hydrogen-from-water/
>>>>>> <https://www..technologyreview.com/s/512996/a-cheaper-way-to-make-hydrogen-from-water/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "*SUPER STEAM* - A Tesla conference in Colorado surfaces new
>>>>>> Super Steam Technology (SST). Leonard Dorsett and friends from
>>>>>> Texas share strikingly similar views to Aquarian Agency Ltd. They
>>>>>> have technology which produces steam instantly at up to 3,000F
>>>>>> without a boiler and with 60% savings in fuel over traditional
>>>>>> boilers. Nitrogen rich, it can put out gasoline fires and treat
>>>>>> many waste problems. Of major importance to Aquarian, this
>>>>>> nitrogen-rich steam will help to produce heat and Aquastone at
>>>>>> considerable savings."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For further information on Aquarian Agency Ltd. they can be
>>>>>> contacted at 38 Weir Rd, Wimbledon, London SW19 SUG, England or
>>>>>> on Internet at <aquarian ocign.ape.org>. *_SUPER STEAM TECHNOLOGY
>>>>>> PART 2_*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Leonard Dorsett (PO Box 365, Grapevine, TX 76092) demonstrated
>>>>>> his Super Steam Technology at the 1994 International Tesla
>>>>>> Symposium. SST is a system for producing steam at any temperature
>>>>>> or pressure independently and instantly without the need for a
>>>>>> conventional boiler. It can instantly produce steam of any
>>>>>> temperature from hot water at 180F to super heated steam at over
>>>>>> 3000F, while pressures can vary from 1PSI to 3000PSI with airflow
>>>>>> volumes of 1CFM up to over 2000CFM. The system operates on
>>>>>> propane, methane, petrol, kerosene, methanol, diesel, hydrogen or
>>>>>> just about anything else that bums and converts virtually 100% of
>>>>>> the fuel into usable energy. (Note: The person in the picture is
>>>>>> Norman Wootan of MRA fame)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This all sounds great, but how does it work? The basis of the
>>>>>> unit is a specially designed open throat chamber with controlled
>>>>>> air, water and fuel interaction and a high voltage ignition
>>>>>> resulting in a direct fire process establishing thermal zones.
>>>>>> This creates a stoichiometric condition resulting in a full
>>>>>> spectrum of steam product. Now comes the interesting part At the
>>>>>> increased temperatures of steam, disassociation occurs. (Could
>>>>>> this be a clue to running cars on water??) The hydrogen and
>>>>>> oxygen reacts causing an exponential increase of energy resulting
>>>>>> in super heated steam. A similar superheat process was addressed
>>>>>> by Tesla in the October 12, 1911 publication of the "Engineering
>>>>>> News Record".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Applications of the SST system include a much more economical way
>>>>>> of producing electricity as no conventional boiler is needed. It
>>>>>> will also be an ideal low cost method for heating and cooling
>>>>>> homes and businesses. Small portable units can be developed for
>>>>>> home use, such as steam cleaning, and insect and ant removal,
>>>>>> without the dangers of insecticides. The system can also be used
>>>>>> for low cost purification of polluted water or sewerage and can
>>>>>> also convert salt water into drinking water both quickly and
>>>>>> inexpensively. Other uses are in fire fighting applications, ice
>>>>>> and snow removal from roads, etc. and sterilization and nurturing
>>>>>> of soil for agriculture where contamination has occurred.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I had designed a method of making hydrogen from carbon & water
>>>>>> vapor using the Tesla Atomic Bombardment method of high frequency
>>>>>> inside of spherical inclosure like this experiments with the
>>>>>> carbon button lamp globes.�� After working with Leonard
>>>>>> Dorsett and his Super Steam Project, I chose to use the Water
>>>>>> Shift Process instead.� A side note is needed here!� The
>>>>>> Super Steam Process was a result of Professor Brown studying the
>>>>>> method the German's used for torpedo propulsion from WWI.�
>>>>>> Acetylene Gas and sea water produced an exothermic reaction
>>>>>> generating Super Steam. Brown built several reactors and tested
>>>>>> them in the Tulsa area to break (down hole) the parafin deposits
>>>>>> to release crude oil.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Chemical equation for the reaction in the US Patent:
>>>>>> https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *(6C + 12 H2O� = 6CO2 + 24H) *
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hydrogen Reactor Development
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *�*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Original concept design was a high voltage, high frequency
>>>>>> resonant device that utilized carbon water reaction with the
>>>>>> feedstock being in the form of graphite rod stock.� This unit
>>>>>> was designed for vehicle application and had too many limitations
>>>>>> to be used for mass hydrogen generation.� This type reactor is
>>>>>> very effective at hydrogen production since it targets the water
>>>>>> vapor molecule at MRI frequencies, which breaks the bonding,
>>>>>> allowing the carbon to latch onto the oxygen atoms leaving the
>>>>>> hydrogen free. This device was a closed system that used a simple
>>>>>> CO2/hydrogen separation stage that enabled the hydrogen to be
>>>>>> feed to an internal combustion engine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *�*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *To allow for a sustained high mass flow of hydrogen gas output,
>>>>>> reactor design took on a radical change.� By incorporating the
>>>>>> Ranque/Hilsch, Counter Flow Implosion Vortex Principle, and
>>>>>> continuous high mass flow and gas separation were achieved in one
>>>>>> stage of operation.� Feedstock for this type reactor could be
>>>>>> any carbon-based material that could be put into a powder
>>>>>> form.� Highest carbon content of the feedstock provides for the
>>>>>> most efficient hydrogen production with the least undesirable
>>>>>> output material.*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *�*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Super high temperature operating regime was chosen to be above
>>>>>> 2500 C for the purpose of producing atomic hydrogen in the
>>>>>> process.� The original reactor operated at temperatures that
>>>>>> easily gasified basic carbon into a plasma state (>10,000 F) more
>>>>>> easily allowing the production of hydrogen from the
>>>>>> stoichiometric feed stock ratios.*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *
>>>>>> *
>>>>>>
>>>>>> **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I sold one of my Patents (Sonodiffuser) and paid for my 52 acres
>>>>>> of land and built a 5200 sq. Ft. lab the do the Prototype
>>>>>> machining and Proof of Concept testing for GAZPROM, Moscow in
>>>>>> 2005. A $1.2 million investment and they got the rights to the
>>>>>> process and I got the beautiful Research Lab all paid in full. I
>>>>>> was a self employed Contractor in Dallas working with HVAC,
>>>>>> Electrical and Electronics Maintenance so had to commute 170
>>>>>> miles/day and only had the week ends for my time! Having to mow
>>>>>> grass and maintane the 52 acres took all my time and when I
>>>>>> suffered a neck fracture in 2012, had to retire. Liquidated the
>>>>>> entire facility and sold it off. Moved to Dallas then to South
>>>>>> Louisiana where I now do a lot of relaxing and fishing!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hector and ALL, I did my time in the Barrel so now I will just
>>>>>> contribute to the dialog inorder to assist any research you may
>>>>>> be doing within my area of experitise!���� BTW! I have
>>>>>> been out to pasture for a long time now, so no BULL offense!�
>>>>>> As Hector knows, "It fits"! Lol
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes! Hector, I will wear my Border Patrol Hat when you come visit
>>>>>> from PR!� Lol
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/6/2018 8:52 PM, [email protected]
>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>> �
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> By the way ... i can hit mega millions or the power ball� . i
>>>>>>> never will not have a lab i can work in,� that is worst than
>>>>>>> death , you have no idea of the technology that had being lost
>>>>>>> by the greedy fucking bastards fucking my life , they will loose
>>>>>>> all they have� "soon" because it had being engineered that way
>>>>>>> by accumulative bad karma, i have another lab they will never
>>>>>>> reach or be able to intercept or destroy and that will decide
>>>>>>> their fate ..... they will be fucked hard !
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (H)� �
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ---In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>,
>>>>>>> <mkjekyll@...> <mailto:mkjekyll@...> wrote :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cmon Hector,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bad taste!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The man had a more serious lab than anyone else here and his
>>>>>>> work speaks for itself.� Maybe he has gained the fortune he
>>>>>>> desired through R&D and now shitting in tall cotton or gone
>>>>>>> fishing reaping the rewards of retirement. Notwithstanding is
>>>>>>> still kind enough to help point us in the right directions
>>>>>>> around here.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "*Funny�I can look back on a life of achievement, on
>>>>>>> challenges met, competitors bested, obstacles overcome. I�ve
>>>>>>> accomplished more than most men, and without the use of my legs.
>>>>>>> What?What makes a man, Mr. Lebowski?"*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11/6/2018 8:04 AM, arkresearch@... <mailto:arkresearch@...>
>>>>>>> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     �
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Dar n ! a Scientist inventor with no lab is like a breeding
>>>>>>>>     bull with no balls !
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Balls Cow GIF - Balls Cow WingDangDoodle GIFs
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     ---In [email protected]
>>>>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]>, <nwootan@...>
>>>>>>>>     <mailto:nwootan@...> wrote :
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Jacob! You asked me a question and I gave you my
>>>>>>>>     opinion!� I'm totally retired at 80 years old and have no
>>>>>>>>     lab to experiment in!� Your quote; I heard once a phrase
>>>>>>>>     from a researcher who said. '' Slow down boy, we get paid
>>>>>>>>     for llooking for solutions, not to find them!''�� That
>>>>>>>>     certainly does not apply to me for I have shared all with
>>>>>>>>     the folks on this site.� I find you statement very
>>>>>>>>     interesting:� Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24
>>>>>>>>     hours with usual amount of gas looks to me extremely
>>>>>>>>     inefficient.�� ??????������� Care to
>>>>>>>>     share where you saw the power of a permanent magnet being
>>>>>>>>     used up!�� We all here on this site share what ever
>>>>>>>>     knowledge we have on the various subjects not seeking any
>>>>>>>>     monetary gain in any way! That is my approach!�� I just
>>>>>>>>     contribute to the dialog when I run across something
>>>>>>>>     interesting and think it will assist you guys!�� Norm
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     On 11/3/2018 11:32 PM, Jakob Wall wall_jakob@...
>>>>>>>>     <mailto:wall_jakob@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         �
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         Thanks Norman,
>>>>>>>>>         But i actually asced for ''most efficient way'' to
>>>>>>>>>         split water known to you!
>>>>>>>>>         I realize there are a lot of different technigues to
>>>>>>>>>         do just that.
>>>>>>>>>         And yes i realize you could give me a rather complex
>>>>>>>>>         answer. But instead i hope for a
>>>>>>>>>         rather easy and reproductive answer since i am looking
>>>>>>>>>         forward to solve my enerrgy
>>>>>>>>>         problems i just can not live with the momentary (sad
>>>>>>>>>         and very stupid energy situation)
>>>>>>>>>         I am still not giving up becouse of a couple mistakes
>>>>>>>>>         and misunderstandings...
>>>>>>>>>         If i would be a car dealer and you would ask me for a
>>>>>>>>>         most efficient car available on the market
>>>>>>>>>         i would for sure not recommend a Prius, since there
>>>>>>>>>         are a lot of cars with better fuel economie
>>>>>>>>>         even without being a hybrid and without additional
>>>>>>>>>         cost like batterys,e-motors and a bunch added ECU's
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours with
>>>>>>>>>         usual amount of gas looks to me extremely
>>>>>>>>>         inefficient.
>>>>>>>>>         Also very expensive HHO-Garage products with output of
>>>>>>>>>         1,6 ltr/min.
>>>>>>>>>         Come on, 6 rusty nails and a old car batery does this
>>>>>>>>>         job, no need to spend 1600 bucks on it.
>>>>>>>>>         I honestly expected solide advise or a honest NO way
>>>>>>>>>         boy, i just talking around.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. ''
>>>>>>>>>         Slow down boy, we get paid for llooking for
>>>>>>>>>         solutions, not to find them!'' That shoked me deeply
>>>>>>>>>         and even if i get 150 years old, i will not forget it.
>>>>>>>>>         Thats true treason on mankind and deciving the people.
>>>>>>>>>         I really hope nobody on this forum only care
>>>>>>>>>         about what he/she will be doing tomorrow.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         Jakob
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         --------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>         On Sun, 10/28/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic
>>>>>>>>>         Battery
>>>>>>>>>         To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]>, "Bert Pool"
>>>>>>>>>         <BertPool512@...> <mailto:BertPool512@...>, "Bob
>>>>>>>>>         Paddock" <bob.paddock@...> <mailto:bob.paddock@...>,
>>>>>>>>>         "joel mcclain" <joel_76670@...>
>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:joel_76670@...>, "Jon Gentry" <jongen422@...>
>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:jongen422@...>, "Mbking42" <mbking42@...>
>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:mbking42@...>, "Toby Grotz" <wireless2@...>
>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:wireless2@...>, "Phil Rembold" <prembold@...>
>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:prembold@...>, "Angel Alvarez" <angel@...>
>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:angel@...>, "Fredric Fletcher" <ffletcher@...>
>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:ffletcher@...>
>>>>>>>>>         Received: Sunday, October 28, 2018, 9:44 AM
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         �
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         Jacob!� That would be a rather complex answer
>>>>>>>>>         but here is your
>>>>>>>>>         starting point!
>>>>>>>>>         https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct-thermomagnetic-splitting-of-water-.html���
>>>>>>>>>         After having been heavily involved in the COLD FUSION
>>>>>>>>>         Research
>>>>>>>>>         back in the 70s and 80s I quickly settled o0n the best
>>>>>>>>>         catalyst in
>>>>>>>>>         electrolytic cells which is pure nickel. I still have
>>>>>>>>>         the cell
>>>>>>>>>         used in the Elemental Replication experiments.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm����
>>>>>>>>>         The hidden
>>>>>>>>>         part of this research is the use of a nickel component
>>>>>>>>>         in the
>>>>>>>>>         combustion chamber. Bosch developed 90,000V ignition
>>>>>>>>>         systems to
>>>>>>>>>         enable water injection in gas engine which high
>>>>>>>>>         lighted the
>>>>>>>>>         Graneau HV decomposition of water via HVDC
>>>>>>>>>         discharge!
>>>>>>>>>         My magnetic Battery when run as an electrolytic cell
>>>>>>>>>         to produce
>>>>>>>>>         hydrogen does produce a huge amount of hydrogen gas as
>>>>>>>>>         shown by
>>>>>>>>>         the Dr. Ehrenhaft document.� I would tell you to
>>>>>>>>>         pursue the super
>>>>>>>>>         high Tesla magnetic flux and nickel electrodes in an
>>>>>>>>>         electrolytic
>>>>>>>>>         cell.� The major obstacle to be overcome is the rapid
>>>>>>>>>         collection
>>>>>>>>>         of ions from solution by the 1.3 Tesla flux across a
>>>>>>>>>         ...020"
>>>>>>>>>         mechanical gap which quickly takes the cell into a
>>>>>>>>>         super-conduction mode which takes out the driving DC
>>>>>>>>>         power supply.
>>>>>>>>>         You can flush the magnetic gaps with distilled water
>>>>>>>>>         and the gaps
>>>>>>>>>         will show in the meg-ohm range then go to zero ohms
>>>>>>>>>         after a short
>>>>>>>>>         period of running, the gathered ions totally short
>>>>>>>>>         cell. During
>>>>>>>>>         the brief runs there is a huge amount of hydrogen gas
>>>>>>>>>         produced�
>>>>>>>>>         which I burned off as it was generated.� Much can be
>>>>>>>>>         said about
>>>>>>>>>         driving the cell with high frequencies as the Myers
>>>>>>>>>         research
>>>>>>>>>         showed.� Our friend up in Canada at George Wiseman,
>>>>>>>>>         Eagle Research
>>>>>>>>>         is running well ahead of the crowd on the production
>>>>>>>>>         of H-H-O.
>>>>>>>>>         Just for giggles!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         16 October
>>>>>>>>>         1996
>>>>>>>>>         To: Hal
>>>>>>>>>         Fox,� Fusion Facts
>>>>>>>>>         Elemental
>>>>>>>>>         Replication ?
>>>>>>>>>         �
>>>>>>>>>         ����� Around mid
>>>>>>>>>         September
>>>>>>>>>         I put together an
>>>>>>>>>         electrolysis cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold
>>>>>>>>>         Fusion Cell
>>>>>>>>>         with the goal of
>>>>>>>>>         exploring the possibilities of making what is
>>>>>>>>>         termed �Pristine
>>>>>>>>>         Water�.�� This water
>>>>>>>>>         which will be used by Homeopaths
>>>>>>>>>         will have had all memory or information
>>>>>>>>>         removed.� This is accomplished by
>>>>>>>>>         recombining monatomic
>>>>>>>>>         hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated in a
>>>>>>>>>         properly
>>>>>>>>>         designed cell.� This is
>>>>>>>>>         the ultimate in purity since this is
>>>>>>>>>         water with conditions at the time of original
>>>>>>>>>         creation.� �Holly Water�is a term
>>>>>>>>>         coined by my dear
>>>>>>>>>         friend and fellow researcher Joe Tyls of
>>>>>>>>>         Vancouver, BC.�� After several weeks of
>>>>>>>>>         successful operation
>>>>>>>>>         producing water that had all the earmarks of a
>>>>>>>>>         true �pristine
>>>>>>>>>         water� a fellow
>>>>>>>>>         researcher suggested using an alternate
>>>>>>>>>         electrolyte.�� A solution was selected
>>>>>>>>>         that contained 77
>>>>>>>>>         colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the
>>>>>>>>>         easiest
>>>>>>>>>         assimilated into the
>>>>>>>>>         body.�� With the
>>>>>>>>>         electrolyte changed the
>>>>>>>>>         cell was put back into operation as before with a
>>>>>>>>>         nice
>>>>>>>>>         recombination burn and
>>>>>>>>>         production of the sought after �pristine
>>>>>>>>>         water�.�������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������
>>>>>>>>>         �������
>>>>>>>>>         ��� After about an
>>>>>>>>>         hour of
>>>>>>>>>         operation the cell
>>>>>>>>>         went absolutely �nuts� with the temperature
>>>>>>>>>         rapidly climbing
>>>>>>>>>         to boiling point
>>>>>>>>>         and the current out of sight.�
>>>>>>>>>         When the
>>>>>>>>>         cell was opened we found a deep red sludge deposit
>>>>>>>>>         which
>>>>>>>>>         shorted the cell
>>>>>>>>>         plates.�� Our first
>>>>>>>>>         thought was that the
>>>>>>>>>         electrolytic action precipitated out the colloidal
>>>>>>>>>         minerals
>>>>>>>>>         which caused the
>>>>>>>>>         deposit found.�� The�
>>>>>>>>>         electrolyte was allowed
>>>>>>>>>         to settle out the
>>>>>>>>>         precipitate.�� After�
>>>>>>>>>         decanting off,� the clear electrolyte
>>>>>>>>>         was
>>>>>>>>>         returned to the
>>>>>>>>>         cell for another run. Again the cell operated
>>>>>>>>>         normally for
>>>>>>>>>         about an hour with a
>>>>>>>>>         normal recombination burn and recovery of the
>>>>>>>>>         water being
>>>>>>>>>         consumed by the cell
>>>>>>>>>         in the splitting action.�� Again
>>>>>>>>>         the cell
>>>>>>>>>         temperature and current mirrored the first
>>>>>>>>>         run.�
>>>>>>>>>         Again the cell contained the same amount of
>>>>>>>>>         sludge
>>>>>>>>>         residue.�� This process
>>>>>>>>>         was repeated ten (10) times
>>>>>>>>>         with exactly the same results.��
>>>>>>>>>         All of
>>>>>>>>>         the sludge was carefully dried and weighed on an
>>>>>>>>>         electronic
>>>>>>>>>         scale with a five
>>>>>>>>>         decimal
>>>>>>>>>         resolution.���������������������
>>>>>>>>>         The cell plates and all hardware were
>>>>>>>>>         weighed to
>>>>>>>>>         determine any loss of
>>>>>>>>>         mass that may contribute to the mass gain observed
>>>>>>>>>         in the
>>>>>>>>>         sludge.� Five hundred
>>>>>>>>>         (500) ml of the original
>>>>>>>>>         electrolyte solution used in the cell was vacuum
>>>>>>>>>         distilled to
>>>>>>>>>         determine the
>>>>>>>>>         exact mass of colloidal minerals
>>>>>>>>>         contained.�
>>>>>>>>>         When all factors were considered we came
>>>>>>>>>         out with a
>>>>>>>>>         mass gain of� 48 gm
>>>>>>>>>         which cannot be explained by
>>>>>>>>>         conventional
>>>>>>>>>         electrolysis.����������������������
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         ��� After talking
>>>>>>>>>         to Dr.
>>>>>>>>>         Robert Bass and Hal
>>>>>>>>>         Fox I learned of a patent that has been filed on
>>>>>>>>>         the
>>>>>>>>>         transmutation of elements
>>>>>>>>>         in the cold fusion cell which is the process that
>>>>>>>>>         Dr. John
>>>>>>>>>         Bockris has been so
>>>>>>>>>         active in.�� Both Dr.
>>>>>>>>>         Bass and Hal Fox
>>>>>>>>>         stated that what I was observing is not the same
>>>>>>>>>         as the
>>>>>>>>>         transmutation observed
>>>>>>>>>         in the cold fusion cell since I have a overall
>>>>>>>>>         mass gain and
>>>>>>>>>         not a lateral
>>>>>>>>>         movement of elements in the periodic table toward
>>>>>>>>>         lighter
>>>>>>>>>         elements with a
>>>>>>>>>         resulting heat release.� This
>>>>>>>>>         unusual
>>>>>>>>>         cell operation has caused quite a reaction in the
>>>>>>>>>         scientific
>>>>>>>>>         community. �At this
>>>>>>>>>         time I have built a complete new cell
>>>>>>>>>         with every possible factor which could possibly
>>>>>>>>>         explain the
>>>>>>>>>         mass gain
>>>>>>>>>         considered and documented.� The
>>>>>>>>>         ten (10)
>>>>>>>>>         consecutive runs on the new cell will be completed
>>>>>>>>>         soon and a
>>>>>>>>>         report will be
>>>>>>>>>         forthcoming.�� What is
>>>>>>>>>         interesting about
>>>>>>>>>         this phenomenon is that when an eleventh run was
>>>>>>>>>         made with the
>>>>>>>>>         original
>>>>>>>>>         electrolyte exactly the same amount of residue was
>>>>>>>>>         recovered
>>>>>>>>>         as in the previous
>>>>>>>>>         ten
>>>>>>>>>         runs.�����������������������������������������������������������������������
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         �
>>>>>>>>>         Since
>>>>>>>>>         the same electrolyte is reused each time with only
>>>>>>>>>         distilled
>>>>>>>>>         water being added
>>>>>>>>>         to replace the volume lost by the removal of the
>>>>>>>>>         solids and
>>>>>>>>>         the water recovered
>>>>>>>>>         by the recombination burn we are hard pressed to
>>>>>>>>>         explain the
>>>>>>>>>         observed
>>>>>>>>>         phenomenon.���� The
>>>>>>>>>         electrolyte appears
>>>>>>>>>         stronger in mineral concentration and shows no
>>>>>>>>>         sign of
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         depletion.��������������������������������
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         �� After conferring
>>>>>>>>>         with
>>>>>>>>>         Joe Tyls we arrived at
>>>>>>>>>         the conclusion that the 77 colloidal minerals
>>>>>>>>>         contained in the
>>>>>>>>>         electrolyte
>>>>>>>>>         provide the atomic templates needed for the
>>>>>>>>>         monatomic hydrogen
>>>>>>>>>         (father of all
>>>>>>>>>         the elements) to replicate selected elements in
>>>>>>>>>         this exotic
>>>>>>>>>         mixture.� If you
>>>>>>>>>         subscribe to the theories of the late
>>>>>>>>>         Walter Russell and his explanation of the octave
>>>>>>>>>         based
>>>>>>>>>         periodic table with
>>>>>>>>>         monatonic hydrogen being what he describes as
>>>>>>>>>         hydrons
>>>>>>>>>         (precursor to hydrogen)
>>>>>>>>>         then it is possible for the replication of
>>>>>>>>>         elements directly
>>>>>>>>>         from energy input
>>>>>>>>>         alone.� This is how all
>>>>>>>>>         matter was
>>>>>>>>>         created in the beginning as described by
>>>>>>>>>         Schappeller in �The
>>>>>>>>>         Physics of the
>>>>>>>>>         Primary State of Matter�.��� I
>>>>>>>>>         will keep
>>>>>>>>>         all informed as to our progress and findings in
>>>>>>>>>         this very
>>>>>>>>>         intriguing venture.
>>>>>>>>>         �
>>>>>>>>>         Norman
>>>>>>>>>         Wootan
>>>>>>>>>         P.O.
>>>>>>>>>         Box 141049
>>>>>>>>>         Dallas,
>>>>>>>>>         TX 75214
>>>>>>>>>         (214)
>>>>>>>>>         360-0865
>>>>>>>>>         �
>>>>>>>>>         �
>>>>>>>>>         CC:� Gene Mallove,
>>>>>>>>>         Infinite
>>>>>>>>>         Energy
>>>>>>>>>         CC:� Dr. John
>>>>>>>>>         Bockris, Texas
>>>>>>>>>         A/M
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         On 10/28/2018 1:01 AM,
>>>>>>>>>         Jakob Wall
>>>>>>>>>         wall_jakob@... <mailto:wall_jakob@...>
>>>>>>>>>         [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         �
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         Thanks Norman,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         BTW, what is the most effective water split
>>>>>>>>>         device that
>>>>>>>>>         you ever put you hands on?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         As HHO researcher for dekades you should be
>>>>>>>>>         able to point
>>>>>>>>>         us directly to the most effective known!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         Please be specific about reconstruction of the
>>>>>>>>>         same, since
>>>>>>>>>         we are in public domain it will become public
>>>>>>>>>         knowledge
>>>>>>>>>         and public good. I assume you intend nothing
>>>>>>>>>         else,rigth ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         --------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         On Sat, 10/27/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:nwootan@...>
>>>>>>>>>         [EVGRAY]
>>>>>>>>>         <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>         wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's
>>>>>>>>>         Magnetic
>>>>>>>>>         Battery [3 Attachments]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         To: "Bert Pool" <BertPool512@...>
>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:BertPool512@...>,
>>>>>>>>>         "Bob
>>>>>>>>>         Paddock" <bob.paddock@...> <mailto:bob.paddock@...>,
>>>>>>>>>         "joel mcclain"
>>>>>>>>>         <joel_76670@...> <mailto:joel_76670@...>,
>>>>>>>>>         "Jon Gentry"
>>>>>>>>>         <jongen422@...> <mailto:jongen422@...>,
>>>>>>>>>         "Lane Wootan"
>>>>>>>>>         <lanewootan@...> <mailto:lanewootan@...>,
>>>>>>>>>         "Mbking42"
>>>>>>>>>         <mbking42@...> <mailto:mbking42@....>,
>>>>>>>>>         "Toby Grotz"
>>>>>>>>>         <wireless2@...> <mailto:wireless2@...>,
>>>>>>>>>         "Phil Rembold"
>>>>>>>>>         <prembold@...> <mailto:prembold@....>,
>>>>>>>>>         "Angel Alvarez"
>>>>>>>>>         <angel@...> <mailto:angel@...>,
>>>>>>>>>         "Fredric Fletcher"
>>>>>>>>>         <ffletcher@...> <mailto:ffletcher@...>,
>>>>>>>>>         [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         To understand the unwinding of a thread
>>>>>>>>>         leading
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         to Magnetic
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         Generating Hydrogen and this Magnetic Battery,
>>>>>>>>>         we have
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         to dust off
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         our� 9th grade Chemistry Books!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         http://www.rexresearch.com/ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm�����
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         I guess Dr.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         Ehrenhaft was the first to propose a Magnetic
>>>>>>>>>         Current.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         (Jon
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         Gentry, Your liquid metal vortex helix).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         https://revolution-green.com/can-electrolysis-powered-magnets/������
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         Ah! Ha!� more on Magnetic Currents!!!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446..html
>>>>>>>>>         <https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446.html>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         https://www.labmanager.com/white-papers-and-application-notes/2010/05/resistivity-conductivity-measurement-of-purified-water#.W9So9uJRc2w
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         https://www.askiitians.com/forums/Physical-Chemistry/19/19074/electro-che
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpotential
>>>>>>>>>         <https://en.m..wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpotential>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         https://www.quora.com/Why-is-oxygen-molecule-paramagnetic-although-it-does-not-contain-any-unpaired-electron
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251580541_The_effect_of_magnetic_force_on_hydrogen_production_efficiency_in_water_electrolysis
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         http://www.physicscentral.com/experiment/physicsathome/electricwhirlpool.cfm
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         http://www.linux-host.org/energy/bmagpump.htm
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         Now Jon Gentry you have your liquid metal pump
>>>>>>>>>         so
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         that you can
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         make the helix tube Vortex!�
>>>>>>>>>         Ferricpetacarbonyl or
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         micro fine neo
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         powder to provide the liquid metal for pump
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         circuit.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         Lots of reading here!���� Please think
>>>>>>>>>         about the
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         ramifications of
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         a Magnetic Current as proposed by Dr.
>>>>>>>>>         Ehrenhaft!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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Bart, I have been drinking 4 liters a day of Magnet Treated Water sine 
Dr. John Miliweski introduced it to me back in 2001. You may have seen 
how my unit is constructed sine I have posted it before.

On 11/10/2018 12:45 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Bart,
>
> Your information including on your cat is very interesting.� I have 
> been using distilled water that is first softened and then RO� then 
> distilled beginning from my well.�� It has a similar "drying" effect 
> as norms wholly water though not as pronounced.
>
> Could you please provide more information on your experiments 
> concerning distilled water and using the magnetic stirrer and how that 
> alkalizes the water?�� The NMR and parahydrogen post if very long 
> winded so difficult for me to get the gist of your presentation.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mick
>
>
> On 11/10/2018 10:37 AM, bart woodard [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>> I use a magnetic stirrer with distilled and wait for the ph to rise, 
>> the results are immediate.
>>
>> https://hannainst.com/hi190m-1-magnetic-mini-stirrer.html
>>
>> Mini Magnetic Stirrer (115V) - HI190M-1 - Hanna Instruments 
>> <https://hannainst.com/hi190m-1-magnetic-mini-stirrer.html>
>> hannainst.com
>> Compact. Lightweight. This mini magnetic stirrer with plastic cover 
>> can stir up to 1 liter. Big power, small footprint. Perfect for any lab!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of 
>> Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
>> *Sent:* November 10, 2018 12:34 PM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery [2 
>> Attachments]
>>
>> No!� Bart, never got into that exotic element stuff!� Just 
>> followed those that were!
>>
>> On 11/10/2018 10:42 AM, bart woodard [email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>> �
>>>
>>> Hey Norm , your life's experiences have been fruitful!! Congrats!!
>>>
>>> Have you ever played with table top combinations� such as thorium 
>>> and fluoride or the molten salt combo?
>>>
>>> On a hobbyist� basis approach?
>>>
>>> Rossi likes to inject nickel/mag� powder so as I see to maintain 
>>> his 1k output!.
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> *From:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
>>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> on behalf 
>>> of Norman Wootan [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] 
>>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>> *Sent:* November 9, 2018 3:12 PM
>>> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>> *Subject:* Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery [2 
>>> Attachments]
>>> �
>>> �
>>>
>>> Mick! To answer the rest of your questions:� In that ARC process 
>>> you have to use carbon rods to yield the carbon monoxide & 
>>> hydrogen.� (carbon source) (arc is heat source).
>>>
>>> Holy Water was interesting part of the Elemental Replication 
>>> experiment. See:�
>>>
>>> *Elemental Replication ?*
>>>
>>> *�*
>>>
>>> ����� Around mid September I put together an electrolysis 
>>> cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold Fusion Cell with the goal of 
>>> exploring the possibilities of making what is termed �Pristine 
>>> Water�.�� This water which will be used by Homeopaths will 
>>> have had all memory or information removed.� This is accomplished 
>>> by recombining monatomic hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated 
>>> in a properly designed cell.� This is the ultimate in purity since 
>>> this is water with conditions at the time of original creation.� 
>>> �Wholy Water�is a term coined by my dear friend and fellow 
>>> researcher Joe Tyls of Vancouver, BC.�� After several weeks of 
>>> successful operation producing water that had all the earmarks of a 
>>> true �pristine water� a fellow researcher suggested using an 
>>> alternate electrolyte.�� A solution was selected that contained 
>>> 77 colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the easiest 
>>> assimilated into the body.�� With the electrolyte changed the 
>>> cell was put back into operation as before with a nice recombination 
>>> burn and production of the sought after �pristine water�.���
>>>
>>>
>>> The water produced in the recombination burn of the H-H-O was 
>>> collected from a silica glass condenser into a silica glass beaker 
>>> for sampling.� When you flipped several CCs of the water into your 
>>> mouth and tried to swallow, there was nothing there.� Hmmmm!� We 
>>> immediately tested the viscosity and surface tension of the water 
>>> and found it to be far below human blood which means that the water 
>>> diffused directly into the capillaries around the tongue therefore 
>>> nothing there to swallow.� The two Doctor who were there were 
>>> amazed. � To prove the theory as to information carried by water, 
>>> we collected a sample of several CCs into a plastic lab cup instead 
>>> of the silica glass beaker. When you flipped the several CCs into 
>>> your mouth you had to immediately spit it out for it was pure taste 
>>> of plastic. This water picks up signature of anything it comes into 
>>> contact with.� That is why the Homeopathic Doctors wanted it for 
>>> making their tinctures.��� (signature of a healing agent). 
>>> ��� We had all the necessary instruments to evaluate the 
>>> Pristine water. See: � https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemorheology
>>>
>>> Hemorheology - Wikipedia <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemorheology>
>>> en.m.wikipedia.org
>>> Blood viscosity is a measure of the resistance of blood to flow. It 
>>> can also be described as the thickness and stickiness of blood. This 
>>> biophysical property makes it a critical determinant of friction 
>>> against the vessel walls, the rate of venous return, the work 
>>> required for the heart to pump blood, and how much oxygen is 
>>> transported to tissues and organs.
>>>
>>> �� 
>>> http://www.dynalenelabs.com/testing-services/thermal-testing/viscosity-rheology/?gclid=CjwKCAiA_ZTfBRBjEiwAN6YG4SdHu5bWZ9yHLBM9VNQ0TLl4tB1hOqMvR_dOEHNbGX6k_kDHHtb5xhoCgIgQAvD_BwE 
>>> �������� https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tensiometer
>>>
>>> � https://hydramotion.com/en/technical/units-of-viscosity
>>>
>>> I made an offer to the Doctors present that a small unit for 
>>> production of a liter/day of Pristine Water via complete unit built 
>>> of quartz glass could be had for $5,000. Apparently they were not 
>>> that enthused as we thought!� Oh! Well!
>>>
>>> I built numerous Pyramids of all sizes and the Orgone Accumulators 
>>> and even the Cloud� Buster.�� The pyramid experiments were 
>>> very interesting for real effects were shown.�� Never tested 
>>> whether water would� break after treatment by either Orgone� or 
>>> pyramid.��� The complete description of the 4 inch cell is in 
>>> the Elemental replication Part Two. See:
>>>
>>>
>>> Cell Description
>>>
>>> �
>>>
>>> ��� The electrolysis cell is designed to hold one (1) liter of 
>>> electrolyte and operate at approximately 150 watt power level for 
>>> the production of monatomic hydrogen and� monatomic oxygen which 
>>> is burned back to pure water and collected in a glass condenser.� 
>>> Cell container is schedule 40 PVC pipe section 6 inches long with 
>>> bottom cap cemented on.� The top of the cell has a 4 inch female 
>>> thread adapter cemented on to provide access to the interior via a 
>>> male threaded plug which has the gas outlet port and two electrolyte 
>>> fill ports to provide for replacement of lost electrolyte on the fly 
>>> for continuos operation.� Positive and negative terminals are 
>>> provided for external connection of the power supply leads to the 
>>> internal anode- cathode stack.
>>>
>>> ��� The cell plate stack consist of 8 anode plates and 8 
>>> cathode plates of the following sizes constructed from 316L 
>>> stainless steel of 22 ga. thickness.
>>>
>>> 4 ea.� 3� X 3� plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 2.75�plates,� 2 ea. 
>>> 3� X 2.5�plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 2.25� plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 
>>> 2� plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 1.75� plates, and� 2 ea. 3� X 
>>> 1.5� plates.� The plates are drilled and stacked with 
>>> alternating anode and cathode plates spaced 1/8� apart which makes 
>>> a cylindrical shaped array which fits nicely inside of the 4� ID 
>>> PVC� cell container.� Electrical leads are braided copper of #10 
>>> size which are covered by shrink tubing to cover conductive surface 
>>> as they pass through the electrolyte to the cell terminal bolts.� 
>>> All electrical surfaces other than the anode and cathode plates are 
>>> carefully covered with PVC cement to prevent deterioration from 
>>> electrolyte contact.��� Please note that if allowed to come 
>>> into contact with �charged� surfaces monatomic hydrogen and 
>>> monatonic oxygen will imediately form into their usual occuring 
>>> state as diatomic H2 and O2 molecules.
>>>
>>> ��������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������� 
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/8/2018 4:29 PM, Mick [email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>> �
>>>>
>>>> Hi Norm,
>>>>
>>>> The catalysts are very interesting.� Iron Cobalt and Nickel all 
>>>> ferromagnetic but at different spins.
>>>>
>>>> Correct me if I am wrong but based on reading your links a 
>>>> bingofuel type reactor using tungsten electrodes that hopefully 
>>>> would last much longer would likely produce OH rather than H and 
>>>> carbon monoxide, what do you think?
>>>>
>>>> Also water is strange indeed in that a pyramid or orgone 
>>>> accumulator changes it and these simple changes could make for 
>>>> water that breaks up more easily.� I would love to know what 
>>>> results you demonstrated with the totally juvenile memory free 
>>>> water you put back together from the OH?�
>>>>
>>>> Sorry to hear about your neck fracture, I have a similar issue and 
>>>> it is extremely painful and debilitating at times.
>>>>
>>>> Mick
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11/7/2018 4:15 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] 
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>> �
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/7/2018 6:06 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jakob Wall! & all other researchers on here need to read the 
>>>>>> Whole Story as to why I no longer have a research lab.� Jakob, 
>>>>>> I'm sorry I did not reveal to you the BEST in my opinion of 
>>>>>> methods of producing hydrogen gas for I felt it was a little too 
>>>>>> advanced and difficult for you to experiment with.� See: 
>>>>>> https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en .�� There is 
>>>>>> a very long story behind this US Patent and a hell of a lot of 
>>>>>> research. The quest for a very inexpensive method of splitting 
>>>>>> water has been the Holy Grail of� cheap energy.�� In 
>>>>>> addition to the research papers and links that I gave to you, 
>>>>>> here are some more to dwell on.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.researchgate.net/post/At_what_temperature_water_will_decompose_to_Oxygen_and_Hydrogen 
>>>>>> <https://www..researchgate.net/post/At_what_temperature_water_will_decompose_to_Oxygen_and_Hydrogen>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.quora.com/Does-water-break-down-into-oxygen-and-hydrogen-at-high-temperatures-If-so-then-at-what-temperature 
>>>>>> <https://www..quora.com/Does-water-break-down-into-oxygen-and-hydrogen-at-high-temperatures-If-so-then-at-what-temperature>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.quora.com/How-much-water-can-you-split-into-hydrogen-and-oxygen-using-electrolysis-with-one-kilowatt-hour-of-electricity 
>>>>>> <https://www..quora.com/How-much-water-can-you-split-into-hydrogen-and-oxygen-using-electrolysis-with-one-kilowatt-hour-of-electricity>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.redrok.com/hion96a1.htm
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.nature.com/articles/nplants201741 
>>>>>> <https://www..nature.com/articles/nplants201741>�� Please 
>>>>>> read carefully about the play of Nickel in this approach!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_splitting
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water-gas_shift_reaction��� 
>>>>>> I owned 77 acres of land in Eureka Springs, AR where they still 
>>>>>> had the old water gas generator and gas storage facility.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decarboxylation
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://phys.org/news/2018-02-uncovers-mechanism-water-splitting-catalyst.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/new-catalyst-could-split-water-cheaply/ 
>>>>>> <https://www..scientificamerican.com/article/new-catalyst-could-split-water-cheaply/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.technologyreview.com/s/512996/a-cheaper-way-to-make-hydrogen-from-water/ 
>>>>>> <https://www..technologyreview.com/s/512996/a-cheaper-way-to-make-hydrogen-from-water/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "*SUPER STEAM* - A Tesla conference in Colorado surfaces new 
>>>>>> Super Steam Technology (SST). Leonard Dorsett and friends from 
>>>>>> Texas share strikingly similar views to Aquarian Agency Ltd. They 
>>>>>> have technology which produces steam instantly at up to 3,000F 
>>>>>> without a boiler and with 60% savings in fuel over traditional 
>>>>>> boilers. Nitrogen rich, it can put out gasoline fires and treat 
>>>>>> many waste problems. Of major importance to Aquarian, this 
>>>>>> nitrogen-rich steam will help to produce heat and Aquastone at 
>>>>>> considerable savings."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For further information on Aquarian Agency Ltd. they can be 
>>>>>> contacted at 38 Weir Rd, Wimbledon, London SW19 SUG, England or 
>>>>>> on Internet at <aquarian ocign.ape.org>. *_SUPER STEAM TECHNOLOGY 
>>>>>> PART 2_*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Leonard Dorsett (PO Box 365, Grapevine, TX 76092) demonstrated 
>>>>>> his Super Steam Technology at the 1994 International Tesla 
>>>>>> Symposium. SST is a system for producing steam at any temperature 
>>>>>> or pressure independently and instantly without the need for a 
>>>>>> conventional boiler. It can instantly produce steam of any 
>>>>>> temperature from hot water at 180F to super heated steam at over 
>>>>>> 3000F, while pressures can vary from 1PSI to 3000PSI with airflow 
>>>>>> volumes of 1CFM up to over 2000CFM. The system operates on 
>>>>>> propane, methane, petrol, kerosene, methanol, diesel, hydrogen or 
>>>>>> just about anything else that bums and converts virtually 100% of 
>>>>>> the fuel into usable energy. (Note: The person in the picture is 
>>>>>> Norman Wootan of MRA fame)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This all sounds great, but how does it work? The basis of the 
>>>>>> unit is a specially designed open throat chamber with controlled 
>>>>>> air, water and fuel interaction and a high voltage ignition 
>>>>>> resulting in a direct fire process establishing thermal zones. 
>>>>>> This creates a stoichiometric condition resulting in a full 
>>>>>> spectrum of steam product. Now comes the interesting part At the 
>>>>>> increased temperatures of steam, disassociation occurs. (Could 
>>>>>> this be a clue to running cars on water??) The hydrogen and 
>>>>>> oxygen reacts causing an exponential increase of energy resulting 
>>>>>> in super heated steam. A similar superheat process was addressed 
>>>>>> by Tesla in the October 12, 1911 publication of the "Engineering 
>>>>>> News Record".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Applications of the SST system include a much more economical way 
>>>>>> of producing electricity as no conventional boiler is needed. It 
>>>>>> will also be an ideal low cost method for heating and cooling 
>>>>>> homes and businesses. Small portable units can be developed for 
>>>>>> home use, such as steam cleaning, and insect and ant removal, 
>>>>>> without the dangers of insecticides. The system can also be used 
>>>>>> for low cost purification of polluted water or sewerage and can 
>>>>>> also convert salt water into drinking water both quickly and 
>>>>>> inexpensively. Other uses are in fire fighting applications, ice 
>>>>>> and snow removal from roads, etc. and sterilization and nurturing 
>>>>>> of soil for agriculture where contamination has occurred.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I had designed a method of making hydrogen from carbon & water 
>>>>>> vapor using the Tesla Atomic Bombardment method of high frequency 
>>>>>> inside of spherical inclosure like this experiments with the 
>>>>>> carbon button lamp globes.�� After working with Leonard 
>>>>>> Dorsett and his Super Steam Project, I chose to use the Water 
>>>>>> Shift Process instead.� A side note is needed here!� The 
>>>>>> Super Steam Process was a result of Professor Brown studying the 
>>>>>> method the German's used for torpedo propulsion from WWI.� 
>>>>>> Acetylene Gas and sea water produced an exothermic reaction 
>>>>>> generating Super Steam. Brown built several reactors and tested 
>>>>>> them in the Tulsa area to break (down hole) the parafin deposits 
>>>>>> to release crude oil.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Chemical equation for the reaction in the US Patent: 
>>>>>> https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *(6C + 12 H2O� = 6CO2 + 24H) *
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hydrogen Reactor Development
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *�*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Original concept design was a high voltage, high frequency 
>>>>>> resonant device that utilized carbon water reaction with the 
>>>>>> feedstock being in the form of graphite rod stock.� This unit 
>>>>>> was designed for vehicle application and had too many limitations 
>>>>>> to be used for mass hydrogen generation.� This type reactor is 
>>>>>> very effective at hydrogen production since it targets the water 
>>>>>> vapor molecule at MRI frequencies, which breaks the bonding, 
>>>>>> allowing the carbon to latch onto the oxygen atoms leaving the 
>>>>>> hydrogen free. This device was a closed system that used a simple 
>>>>>> CO2/hydrogen separation stage that enabled the hydrogen to be 
>>>>>> feed to an internal combustion engine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *�*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *To allow for a sustained high mass flow of hydrogen gas output, 
>>>>>> reactor design took on a radical change.� By incorporating the 
>>>>>> Ranque/Hilsch, Counter Flow Implosion Vortex Principle, and 
>>>>>> continuous high mass flow and gas separation were achieved in one 
>>>>>> stage of operation.� Feedstock for this type reactor could be 
>>>>>> any carbon-based material that could be put into a powder 
>>>>>> form.� Highest carbon content of the feedstock provides for the 
>>>>>> most efficient hydrogen production with the least undesirable 
>>>>>> output material.*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *�*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Super high temperature operating regime was chosen to be above 
>>>>>> 2500 C for the purpose of producing atomic hydrogen in the 
>>>>>> process.� The original reactor operated at temperatures that 
>>>>>> easily gasified basic carbon into a plasma state (>10,000 F) more 
>>>>>> easily allowing the production of hydrogen from the 
>>>>>> stoichiometric feed stock ratios.*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *
>>>>>> *
>>>>>>
>>>>>> **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I sold one of my Patents (Sonodiffuser) and paid for my 52 acres 
>>>>>> of land and built a 5200 sq. Ft. lab the do the Prototype 
>>>>>> machining and Proof of Concept testing for GAZPROM, Moscow in 
>>>>>> 2005. A $1.2 million investment and they got the rights to the 
>>>>>> process and I got the beautiful Research Lab all paid in full. I 
>>>>>> was a self employed Contractor in Dallas working with HVAC, 
>>>>>> Electrical and Electronics Maintenance so had to commute 170 
>>>>>> miles/day and only had the week ends for my time! Having to mow 
>>>>>> grass and maintane the 52 acres took all my time and when I 
>>>>>> suffered a neck fracture in 2012, had to retire. Liquidated the 
>>>>>> entire facility and sold it off. Moved to Dallas then to South 
>>>>>> Louisiana where I now do a lot of relaxing and fishing!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hector and ALL, I did my time in the Barrel so now I will just 
>>>>>> contribute to the dialog inorder to assist any research you may 
>>>>>> be doing within my area of experitise!���� BTW! I have 
>>>>>> been out to pasture for a long time now, so no BULL offense!� 
>>>>>> As Hector knows, "It fits"! Lol
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes! Hector, I will wear my Border Patrol Hat when you come visit 
>>>>>> from PR!� Lol
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/6/2018 8:52 PM, [email protected] 
>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>> �
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> By the way ... i can hit mega millions or the power ball� . i 
>>>>>>> never will not have a lab i can work in,� that is worst than 
>>>>>>> death , you have no idea of the technology that had being lost 
>>>>>>> by the greedy fucking bastards fucking my life , they will loose 
>>>>>>> all they have� "soon" because it had being engineered that way 
>>>>>>> by accumulative bad karma, i have another lab they will never 
>>>>>>> reach or be able to intercept or destroy and that will decide 
>>>>>>> their fate ..... they will be fucked hard !
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (H)� �
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ---In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>, 
>>>>>>> <mkjekyll@...> <mailto:mkjekyll@...> wrote :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cmon Hector,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bad taste!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The man had a more serious lab than anyone else here and his 
>>>>>>> work speaks for itself.� Maybe he has gained the fortune he 
>>>>>>> desired through R&D and now shitting in tall cotton or gone 
>>>>>>> fishing reaping the rewards of retirement. Notwithstanding is 
>>>>>>> still kind enough to help point us in the right directions 
>>>>>>> around here.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "*Funny�I can look back on a life of achievement, on 
>>>>>>> challenges met, competitors bested, obstacles overcome. I�ve 
>>>>>>> accomplished more than most men, and without the use of my legs. 
>>>>>>> What?What makes a man, Mr. Lebowski?"*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11/6/2018 8:04 AM, arkresearch@... <mailto:arkresearch@...> 
>>>>>>> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     �
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Dar n ! a Scientist inventor with no lab is like a breeding
>>>>>>>>     bull with no balls !
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Balls Cow GIF - Balls Cow WingDangDoodle GIFs
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     ---In [email protected]
>>>>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]>, <nwootan@...>
>>>>>>>>     <mailto:nwootan@...> wrote :
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Jacob! You asked me a question and I gave you my
>>>>>>>>     opinion!� I'm totally retired at 80 years old and have no
>>>>>>>>     lab to experiment in!� Your quote; I heard once a phrase
>>>>>>>>     from a researcher who said. '' Slow down boy, we get paid
>>>>>>>>     for llooking for solutions, not to find them!''�� That
>>>>>>>>     certainly does not apply to me for I have shared all with
>>>>>>>>     the folks on this site.� I find you statement very
>>>>>>>>     interesting:� Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24
>>>>>>>>     hours with usual amount of gas looks to me extremely
>>>>>>>>     inefficient.�� ??????������� Care to
>>>>>>>>     share where you saw the power of a permanent magnet being
>>>>>>>>     used up!�� We all here on this site share what ever
>>>>>>>>     knowledge we have on the various subjects not seeking any
>>>>>>>>     monetary gain in any way! That is my approach!�� I just
>>>>>>>>     contribute to the dialog when I run across something
>>>>>>>>     interesting and think it will assist you guys!�� Norm
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     On 11/3/2018 11:32 PM, Jakob Wall wall_jakob@...
>>>>>>>>     <mailto:wall_jakob@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         �
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         Thanks Norman,
>>>>>>>>>         But i actually asced for ''most efficient way'' to
>>>>>>>>>         split water known to you!
>>>>>>>>>         I realize there are a lot of different technigues to
>>>>>>>>>         do just that.
>>>>>>>>>         And yes i realize you could give me a rather complex
>>>>>>>>>         answer. But instead i hope for a
>>>>>>>>>         rather easy and reproductive answer since i am looking
>>>>>>>>>         forward to solve my enerrgy
>>>>>>>>>         problems i just can not live with the momentary (sad
>>>>>>>>>         and very stupid energy situation)
>>>>>>>>>         I am still not giving up becouse of a couple mistakes
>>>>>>>>>         and misunderstandings..
>>>>>>>>>         If i would be a car dealer and you would ask me for a
>>>>>>>>>         most efficient car available on the market
>>>>>>>>>         i would for sure not recommend a Prius, since there
>>>>>>>>>         are a lot of cars with better fuel economie
>>>>>>>>>         even without being a hybrid and without additional
>>>>>>>>>         cost like batterys,e-motors and a bunch added ECU's
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours with
>>>>>>>>>         usual amount of gas looks to me extremely
>>>>>>>>>         inefficient.
>>>>>>>>>         Also very expensive HHO-Garage products with output of
>>>>>>>>>         1,6 ltr/min.
>>>>>>>>>         Come on, 6 rusty nails and a old car batery does this
>>>>>>>>>         job, no need to spend 1600 bucks on it.
>>>>>>>>>         I honestly expected solide advise or a honest NO way
>>>>>>>>>         boy, i just talking around.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. ''
>>>>>>>>>         Slow down boy, we get paid for llooking for
>>>>>>>>>         solutions, not to find them!'' That shoked me deeply
>>>>>>>>>         and even if i get 150 years old, i will not forget it.
>>>>>>>>>         Thats true treason on mankind and deciving the people.
>>>>>>>>>         I really hope nobody on this forum only care
>>>>>>>>>         about what he/she will be doing tomorrow.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         Jakob
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         --------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>         On Sun, 10/28/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic
>>>>>>>>>         Battery
>>>>>>>>>         To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]>, "Bert Pool"
>>>>>>>>>         <BertPool512@...> <mailto:BertPool512@...>, "Bob
>>>>>>>>>         Paddock" <bob.paddock@...> <mailto:bob.paddock@...>,
>>>>>>>>>         "joel mcclain" <joel_76670@...>
>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:joel_76670@...>, "Jon Gentry" <jongen422@...>
>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:jongen422@...>, "Mbking42" <mbking42@...>
>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:mbking42@...>, "Toby Grotz" <wireless2@...>
>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:wireless2@...>, "Phil Rembold" <prembold@...>
>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:prembold@...>, "Angel Alvarez" <angel@...>
>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:angel@...>, "Fredric Fletcher" <ffletcher@...>
>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:ffletcher@...>
>>>>>>>>>         Received: Sunday, October 28, 2018, 9:44 AM
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         �
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         Jacob!� That would be a rather complex answer
>>>>>>>>>         but here is your
>>>>>>>>>         starting point!
>>>>>>>>>         https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct-thermomagnetic-splitting-of-water-.html���
>>>>>>>>>         After having been heavily involved in the COLD FUSION
>>>>>>>>>         Research
>>>>>>>>>         back in the 70s and 80s I quickly settled o0n the best
>>>>>>>>>         catalyst in
>>>>>>>>>         electrolytic cells which is pure nickel. I still have
>>>>>>>>>         the cell
>>>>>>>>>         used in the Elemental Replication experiments.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm����
>>>>>>>>>         The hidden
>>>>>>>>>         part of this research is the use of a nickel component
>>>>>>>>>         in the
>>>>>>>>>         combustion chamber. Bosch developed 90,000V ignition
>>>>>>>>>         systems to
>>>>>>>>>         enable water injection in gas engine which high
>>>>>>>>>         lighted the
>>>>>>>>>         Graneau HV decomposition of water via HVDC
>>>>>>>>>         discharge!
>>>>>>>>>         My magnetic Battery when run as an electrolytic cell
>>>>>>>>>         to produce
>>>>>>>>>         hydrogen does produce a huge amount of hydrogen gas as
>>>>>>>>>         shown by
>>>>>>>>>         the Dr. Ehrenhaft document.� I would tell you to
>>>>>>>>>         pursue the super
>>>>>>>>>         high Tesla magnetic flux and nickel electrodes in an
>>>>>>>>>         electrolytic
>>>>>>>>>         cell.� The major obstacle to be overcome is the rapid
>>>>>>>>>         collection
>>>>>>>>>         of ions from solution by the 1.3 Tesla flux across a
>>>>>>>>>         ..020"
>>>>>>>>>         mechanical gap which quickly takes the cell into a
>>>>>>>>>         super-conduction mode which takes out the driving DC
>>>>>>>>>         power supply.
>>>>>>>>>         You can flush the magnetic gaps with distilled water
>>>>>>>>>         and the gaps
>>>>>>>>>         will show in the meg-ohm range then go to zero ohms
>>>>>>>>>         after a short
>>>>>>>>>         period of running, the gathered ions totally short
>>>>>>>>>         cell. During
>>>>>>>>>         the brief runs there is a huge amount of hydrogen gas
>>>>>>>>>         produced�
>>>>>>>>>         which I burned off as it was generated.� Much can be
>>>>>>>>>         said about
>>>>>>>>>         driving the cell with high frequencies as the Myers
>>>>>>>>>         research
>>>>>>>>>         showed.� Our friend up in Canada at George Wiseman,
>>>>>>>>>         Eagle Research
>>>>>>>>>         is running well ahead of the crowd on the production
>>>>>>>>>         of H-H-O.
>>>>>>>>>         Just for giggles!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         16 October
>>>>>>>>>         1996
>>>>>>>>>         To: Hal
>>>>>>>>>         Fox,� Fusion Facts
>>>>>>>>>         Elemental
>>>>>>>>>         Replication ?
>>>>>>>>>         �
>>>>>>>>>         ����� Around mid
>>>>>>>>>         September
>>>>>>>>>         I put together an
>>>>>>>>>         electrolysis cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold
>>>>>>>>>         Fusion Cell
>>>>>>>>>         with the goal of
>>>>>>>>>         exploring the possibilities of making what is
>>>>>>>>>         termed �Pristine
>>>>>>>>>         Water�.�� This water
>>>>>>>>>         which will be used by Homeopaths
>>>>>>>>>         will have had all memory or information
>>>>>>>>>         removed.� This is accomplished by
>>>>>>>>>         recombining monatomic
>>>>>>>>>         hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated in a
>>>>>>>>>         properly
>>>>>>>>>         designed cell.� This is
>>>>>>>>>         the ultimate in purity since this is
>>>>>>>>>         water with conditions at the time of original
>>>>>>>>>         creation.� �Holly Water�is a term
>>>>>>>>>         coined by my dear
>>>>>>>>>         friend and fellow researcher Joe Tyls of
>>>>>>>>>         Vancouver, BC.�� After several weeks of
>>>>>>>>>         successful operation
>>>>>>>>>         producing water that had all the earmarks of a
>>>>>>>>>         true �pristine
>>>>>>>>>         water� a fellow
>>>>>>>>>         researcher suggested using an alternate
>>>>>>>>>         electrolyte.�� A solution was selected
>>>>>>>>>         that contained 77
>>>>>>>>>         colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the
>>>>>>>>>         easiest
>>>>>>>>>         assimilated into the
>>>>>>>>>         body.�� With the
>>>>>>>>>         electrolyte changed the
>>>>>>>>>         cell was put back into operation as before with a
>>>>>>>>>         nice
>>>>>>>>>         recombination burn and
>>>>>>>>>         production of the sought after �pristine
>>>>>>>>>         water�.�������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������
>>>>>>>>>         �������
>>>>>>>>>         ��� After about an
>>>>>>>>>         hour of
>>>>>>>>>         operation the cell
>>>>>>>>>         went absolutely �nuts� with the temperature
>>>>>>>>>         rapidly climbing
>>>>>>>>>         to boiling point
>>>>>>>>>         and the current out of sight.�
>>>>>>>>>         When the
>>>>>>>>>         cell was opened we found a deep red sludge deposit
>>>>>>>>>         which
>>>>>>>>>         shorted the cell
>>>>>>>>>         plates.�� Our first
>>>>>>>>>         thought was that the
>>>>>>>>>         electrolytic action precipitated out the colloidal
>>>>>>>>>         minerals
>>>>>>>>>         which caused the
>>>>>>>>>         deposit found.�� The�
>>>>>>>>>         electrolyte was allowed
>>>>>>>>>         to settle out the
>>>>>>>>>         precipitate.�� After�
>>>>>>>>>         decanting off,� the clear electrolyte
>>>>>>>>>         was
>>>>>>>>>         returned to the
>>>>>>>>>         cell for another run. Again the cell operated
>>>>>>>>>         normally for
>>>>>>>>>         about an hour with a
>>>>>>>>>         normal recombination burn and recovery of the
>>>>>>>>>         water being
>>>>>>>>>         consumed by the cell
>>>>>>>>>         in the splitting action.�� Again
>>>>>>>>>         the cell
>>>>>>>>>         temperature and current mirrored the first
>>>>>>>>>         run.�
>>>>>>>>>         Again the cell contained the same amount of
>>>>>>>>>         sludge
>>>>>>>>>         residue.�� This process
>>>>>>>>>         was repeated ten (10) times
>>>>>>>>>         with exactly the same results.��
>>>>>>>>>         All of
>>>>>>>>>         the sludge was carefully dried and weighed on an
>>>>>>>>>         electronic
>>>>>>>>>         scale with a five
>>>>>>>>>         decimal
>>>>>>>>>         resolution.���������������������
>>>>>>>>>         The cell plates and all hardware were
>>>>>>>>>         weighed to
>>>>>>>>>         determine any loss of
>>>>>>>>>         mass that may contribute to the mass gain observed
>>>>>>>>>         in the
>>>>>>>>>         sludge.� Five hundred
>>>>>>>>>         (500) ml of the original
>>>>>>>>>         electrolyte solution used in the cell was vacuum
>>>>>>>>>         distilled to
>>>>>>>>>         determine the
>>>>>>>>>         exact mass of colloidal minerals
>>>>>>>>>         contained.�
>>>>>>>>>         When all factors were considered we came
>>>>>>>>>         out with a
>>>>>>>>>         mass gain of� 48 gm
>>>>>>>>>         which cannot be explained by
>>>>>>>>>         conventional
>>>>>>>>>         electrolysis.����������������������
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         ��� After talking
>>>>>>>>>         to Dr.
>>>>>>>>>         Robert Bass and Hal
>>>>>>>>>         Fox I learned of a patent that has been filed on
>>>>>>>>>         the
>>>>>>>>>         transmutation of elements
>>>>>>>>>         in the cold fusion cell which is the process that
>>>>>>>>>         Dr. John
>>>>>>>>>         Bockris has been so
>>>>>>>>>         active in.�� Both Dr.
>>>>>>>>>         Bass and Hal Fox
>>>>>>>>>         stated that what I was observing is not the same
>>>>>>>>>         as the
>>>>>>>>>         transmutation observed
>>>>>>>>>         in the cold fusion cell since I have a overall
>>>>>>>>>         mass gain and
>>>>>>>>>         not a lateral
>>>>>>>>>         movement of elements in the periodic table toward
>>>>>>>>>         lighter
>>>>>>>>>         elements with a
>>>>>>>>>         resulting heat release.� This
>>>>>>>>>         unusual
>>>>>>>>>         cell operation has caused quite a reaction in the
>>>>>>>>>         scientific
>>>>>>>>>         community. �At this
>>>>>>>>>         time I have built a complete new cell
>>>>>>>>>         with every possible factor which could possibly
>>>>>>>>>         explain the
>>>>>>>>>         mass gain
>>>>>>>>>         considered and documented.� The
>>>>>>>>>         ten (10)
>>>>>>>>>         consecutive runs on the new cell will be completed
>>>>>>>>>         soon and a
>>>>>>>>>         report will be
>>>>>>>>>         forthcoming.�� What is
>>>>>>>>>         interesting about
>>>>>>>>>         this phenomenon is that when an eleventh run was
>>>>>>>>>         made with the
>>>>>>>>>         original
>>>>>>>>>         electrolyte exactly the same amount of residue was
>>>>>>>>>         recovered
>>>>>>>>>         as in the previous
>>>>>>>>>         ten
>>>>>>>>>         runs.�����������������������������������������������������������������������
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         �
>>>>>>>>>         Since
>>>>>>>>>         the same electrolyte is reused each time with only
>>>>>>>>>         distilled
>>>>>>>>>         water being added
>>>>>>>>>         to replace the volume lost by the removal of the
>>>>>>>>>         solids and
>>>>>>>>>         the water recovered
>>>>>>>>>         by the recombination burn we are hard pressed to
>>>>>>>>>         explain the
>>>>>>>>>         observed
>>>>>>>>>         phenomenon.���� The
>>>>>>>>>         electrolyte appears
>>>>>>>>>         stronger in mineral concentration and shows no
>>>>>>>>>         sign of
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         depletion.��������������������������������
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         �� After conferring
>>>>>>>>>         with
>>>>>>>>>         Joe Tyls we arrived at
>>>>>>>>>         the conclusion that the 77 colloidal minerals
>>>>>>>>>         contained in the
>>>>>>>>>         electrolyte
>>>>>>>>>         provide the atomic templates needed for the
>>>>>>>>>         monatomic hydrogen
>>>>>>>>>         (father of all
>>>>>>>>>         the elements) to replicate selected elements in
>>>>>>>>>         this exotic
>>>>>>>>>         mixture.� If you
>>>>>>>>>         subscribe to the theories of the late
>>>>>>>>>         Walter Russell and his explanation of the octave
>>>>>>>>>         based
>>>>>>>>>         periodic table with
>>>>>>>>>         monatonic hydrogen being what he describes as
>>>>>>>>>         hydrons
>>>>>>>>>         (precursor to hydrogen)
>>>>>>>>>         then it is possible for the replication of
>>>>>>>>>         elements directly
>>>>>>>>>         from energy input
>>>>>>>>>         alone.� This is how all
>>>>>>>>>         matter was
>>>>>>>>>         created in the beginning as described by
>>>>>>>>>         Schappeller in �The
>>>>>>>>>         Physics of the
>>>>>>>>>         Primary State of Matter�.��� I
>>>>>>>>>         will keep
>>>>>>>>>         all informed as to our progress and findings in
>>>>>>>>>         this very
>>>>>>>>>         intriguing venture.
>>>>>>>>>         �
>>>>>>>>>         Norman
>>>>>>>>>         Wootan
>>>>>>>>>         P.O.
>>>>>>>>>         Box 141049
>>>>>>>>>         Dallas,
>>>>>>>>>         TX 75214
>>>>>>>>>         (214)
>>>>>>>>>         360-0865
>>>>>>>>>         �
>>>>>>>>>         �
>>>>>>>>>         CC:� Gene Mallove,
>>>>>>>>>         Infinite
>>>>>>>>>         Energy
>>>>>>>>>         CC:� Dr. John
>>>>>>>>>         Bockris, Texas
>>>>>>>>>         A/M
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         On 10/28/2018 1:01 AM,
>>>>>>>>>         Jakob Wall
>>>>>>>>>         wall_jakob@... <mailto:wall_jakob@...>
>>>>>>>>>         [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         �
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         Thanks Norman,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         BTW, what is the most effective water split
>>>>>>>>>         device that
>>>>>>>>>         you ever put you hands on?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         As HHO researcher for dekades you should be
>>>>>>>>>         able to point
>>>>>>>>>         us directly to the most effective known!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         Please be specific about reconstruction of the
>>>>>>>>>         same, since
>>>>>>>>>         we are in public domain it will become public
>>>>>>>>>         knowledge
>>>>>>>>>         and public good. I assume you intend nothing
>>>>>>>>>         else,rigth ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         --------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         On Sat, 10/27/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:nwootan@...>
>>>>>>>>>         [EVGRAY]
>>>>>>>>>         <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>         wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's
>>>>>>>>>         Magnetic
>>>>>>>>>         Battery [3 Attachments]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         To: "Bert Pool" <BertPool512@...>
>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:BertPool512@...>,
>>>>>>>>>         "Bob
>>>>>>>>>         Paddock" <bob.paddock@...> <mailto:bob.paddock@...>,
>>>>>>>>>         "joel mcclain"
>>>>>>>>>         <joel_76670@...> <mailto:joel_76670@...>,
>>>>>>>>>         "Jon Gentry"
>>>>>>>>>         <jongen422@...> <mailto:jongen422@...>,
>>>>>>>>>         "Lane Wootan"
>>>>>>>>>         <lanewootan@...> <mailto:lanewootan@...>,
>>>>>>>>>         "Mbking42"
>>>>>>>>>         <mbking42@...> <mailto:mbking42@....>,
>>>>>>>>>         "Toby Grotz"
>>>>>>>>>         <wireless2@...> <mailto:wireless2@...>,
>>>>>>>>>         "Phil Rembold"
>>>>>>>>>         <prembold@...> <mailto:prembold@....>,
>>>>>>>>>         "Angel Alvarez"
>>>>>>>>>         <angel@...> <mailto:angel@...>,
>>>>>>>>>         "Fredric Fletcher"
>>>>>>>>>         <ffletcher@...> <mailto:ffletcher@...>,
>>>>>>>>>         [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         To understand the unwinding of a thread
>>>>>>>>>         leading
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         to Magnetic
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         Generating Hydrogen and this Magnetic Battery,
>>>>>>>>>         we have
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         to dust off
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         our� 9th grade Chemistry Books!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         http://www.rexresearch.com/ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm�����
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         I guess Dr.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         Ehrenhaft was the first to propose a Magnetic
>>>>>>>>>         Current.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         (Jon
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         Gentry, Your liquid metal vortex helix).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         https://revolution-green.com/can-electrolysis-powered-magnets/������
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         Ah! Ha!� more on Magnetic Currents!!!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446..html
>>>>>>>>>         <https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446.html>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         https://www.labmanager.com/white-papers-and-application-notes/2010/05/resistivity-conductivity-measurement-of-purified-water#.W9So9uJRc2w
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         https://www.askiitians.com/forums/Physical-Chemistry/19/19074/electro-che
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpotential
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         https://www.quora.com/Why-is-oxygen-molecule-paramagnetic-although-it-does-not-contain-any-unpaired-electron
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251580541_The_effect_of_magnetic_force_on_hydrogen_production_efficiency_in_water_electrolysis
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         http://www.physicscentral.com/experiment/physicsathome/electricwhirlpool.cfm
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         http://www.linux-host.org/energy/bmagpump.htm
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         Now Jon Gentry you have your liquid metal pump
>>>>>>>>>         so
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         that you can
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         make the helix tube Vortex!�
>>>>>>>>>         Ferricpetacarbonyl or
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         micro fine neo
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         powder to provide the liquid metal for pump
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         circuit.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         Lots of reading here!���� Please think
>>>>>>>>>         about the
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         ramifications of
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         a Magnetic Current as proposed by Dr.
>>>>>>>>>         Ehrenhaft!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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BTW, The 1/4 cylindrical section magnets come from these IBM, Main Frame 
HD assemblies!� I salvaged down 100s of them during the 90s. Read Write 
head, linear servo modules. See:

On 11/10/2018 12:37 PM, bart woodard [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> I use a magnetic stirrer with distilled and wait for the ph to rise, 
> the results are immediate.
>
> https://hannainst.com/hi190m-1-magnetic-mini-stirrer.html
>
> Mini Magnetic Stirrer (115V) - HI190M-1 - Hanna Instruments 
> <https://hannainst.com/hi190m-1-magnetic-mini-stirrer.html>
> hannainst.com
> Compact. Lightweight. This mini magnetic stirrer with plastic cover 
> can stir up to 1 liter. Big power, small footprint. Perfect for any lab!
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of 
> Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* November 10, 2018 12:34 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery [2 
> Attachments]
>
> No!� Bart, never got into that exotic element stuff!� Just 
> followed those that were!
>
> On 11/10/2018 10:42 AM, bart woodard [email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>> �
>>
>> Hey Norm , your life's experiences have been fruitful!! Congrats!!
>>
>> Have you ever played with table top combinations� such as thorium 
>> and fluoride or the molten salt combo?
>>
>> On a hobbyist� basis approach?
>>
>> Rossi likes to inject nickel/mag� powder so as I see to maintain 
>> his 1k output!.
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> on behalf of 
>> Norman Wootan [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] 
>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
>> *Sent:* November 9, 2018 3:12 PM
>> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>> *Subject:* Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery [2 
>> Attachments]
>> �
>> �
>>
>> Mick! To answer the rest of your questions:� In that ARC process 
>> you have to use carbon rods to yield the carbon monoxide & 
>> hydrogen.� (carbon source) (arc is heat source).
>>
>> Holy Water was interesting part of the Elemental Replication 
>> experiment. See:�
>>
>> *Elemental Replication ?*
>>
>> *�*
>>
>> ����� Around mid September I put together an electrolysis 
>> cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold Fusion Cell with the goal of 
>> exploring the possibilities of making what is termed �Pristine 
>> Water�.�� This water which will be used by Homeopaths will have 
>> had all memory or information removed.� This is accomplished by 
>> recombining monatomic hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated in a 
>> properly designed cell.� This is the ultimate in purity since this 
>> is water with conditions at the time of original creation.� 
>> �Wholy Water�is a term coined by my dear friend and fellow 
>> researcher Joe Tyls of Vancouver, BC.�� After several weeks of 
>> successful operation producing water that had all the earmarks of a 
>> true �pristine water� a fellow researcher suggested using an 
>> alternate electrolyte.�� A solution was selected that contained 
>> 77 colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the easiest 
>> assimilated into the body.�� With the electrolyte changed the 
>> cell was put back into operation as before with a nice recombination 
>> burn and production of the sought after �pristine water�.���
>>
>>
>> The water produced in the recombination burn of the H-H-O was 
>> collected from a silica glass condenser into a silica glass beaker 
>> for sampling.� When you flipped several CCs of the water into your 
>> mouth and tried to swallow, there was nothing there.� Hmmmm!� We 
>> immediately tested the viscosity and surface tension of the water and 
>> found it to be far below human blood which means that the water 
>> diffused directly into the capillaries around the tongue therefore 
>> nothing there to swallow.� The two Doctor who were there were 
>> amazed. � To prove the theory as to information carried by water, 
>> we collected a sample of several CCs into a plastic lab cup instead 
>> of the silica glass beaker. When you flipped the several CCs into 
>> your mouth you had to immediately spit it out for it was pure taste 
>> of plastic. This water picks up signature of anything it comes into 
>> contact with.� That is why the Homeopathic Doctors wanted it for 
>> making their tinctures.��� (signature of a healing agent). 
>> ��� We had all the necessary instruments to evaluate the 
>> Pristine water. See: � https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemorheology
>>
>> Hemorheology - Wikipedia <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemorheology>
>> en.m.wikipedia.org
>> Blood viscosity is a measure of the resistance of blood to flow. It 
>> can also be described as the thickness and stickiness of blood. This 
>> biophysical property makes it a critical determinant of friction 
>> against the vessel walls, the rate of venous return, the work 
>> required for the heart to pump blood, and how much oxygen is 
>> transported to tissues and organs.
>>
>> �� 
>> http://www.dynalenelabs.com/testing-services/thermal-testing/viscosity-rheology/?gclid=CjwKCAiA_ZTfBRBjEiwAN6YG4SdHu5bWZ9yHLBM9VNQ0TLl4tB1hOqMvR_dOEHNbGX6k_kDHHtb5xhoCgIgQAvD_BwE 
>> �������� https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tensiometer
>>
>> � https://hydramotion.com/en/technical/units-of-viscosity
>>
>> I made an offer to the Doctors present that a small unit for 
>> production of a liter/day of Pristine Water via complete unit built 
>> of quartz glass could be had for $5,000. Apparently they were not 
>> that enthused as we thought!� Oh! Well!
>>
>> I built numerous Pyramids of all sizes and the Orgone Accumulators 
>> and even the Cloud� Buster.�� The pyramid experiments were very 
>> interesting for real effects were shown.�� Never tested whether 
>> water would� break after treatment by either Orgone� or 
>> pyramid.��� The complete description of the 4 inch cell is in 
>> the Elemental replication Part Two. See:
>>
>>
>> Cell Description
>>
>> �
>>
>> ��� The electrolysis cell is designed to hold one (1) liter of 
>> electrolyte and operate at approximately 150 watt power level for the 
>> production of monatomic hydrogen and� monatomic oxygen which is 
>> burned back to pure water and collected in a glass condenser.� Cell 
>> container is schedule 40 PVC pipe section 6 inches long with bottom 
>> cap cemented on.� The top of the cell has a 4 inch female thread 
>> adapter cemented on to provide access to the interior via a male 
>> threaded plug which has the gas outlet port and two electrolyte fill 
>> ports to provide for replacement of lost electrolyte on the fly for 
>> continuos operation.� Positive and negative terminals are provided 
>> for external connection of the power supply leads to the internal 
>> anode- cathode stack.
>>
>> ��� The cell plate stack consist of 8 anode plates and 8 
>> cathode plates of the following sizes constructed from 316L stainless 
>> steel of 22 ga. thickness.
>>
>> 4 ea.� 3� X 3� plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 2.75�plates,� 2 ea. 
>> 3� X 2.5�plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 2.25� plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 
>> 2� plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 1.75� plates, and� 2 ea. 3� X 
>> 1.5� plates.� The plates are drilled and stacked with alternating 
>> anode and cathode plates spaced 1/8� apart which makes a 
>> cylindrical shaped array which fits nicely inside of the 4� ID 
>> PVC� cell container.� Electrical leads are braided copper of #10 
>> size which are covered by shrink tubing to cover conductive surface 
>> as they pass through the electrolyte to the cell terminal bolts.� 
>> All electrical surfaces other than the anode and cathode plates are 
>> carefully covered with PVC cement to prevent deterioration from 
>> electrolyte contact.��� Please note that if allowed to come 
>> into contact with �charged� surfaces monatomic hydrogen and 
>> monatonic oxygen will imediately form into their usual occuring state 
>> as diatomic H2 and O2 molecules.
>>
>> ��������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������� 
>>
>>
>> On 11/8/2018 4:29 PM, Mick [email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>> �
>>>
>>> Hi Norm,
>>>
>>> The catalysts are very interesting.� Iron Cobalt and Nickel all 
>>> ferromagnetic but at different spins.
>>>
>>> Correct me if I am wrong but based on reading your links a bingofuel 
>>> type reactor using tungsten electrodes that hopefully would last 
>>> much longer would likely produce OH rather than H and carbon 
>>> monoxide, what do you think?
>>>
>>> Also water is strange indeed in that a pyramid or orgone accumulator 
>>> changes it and these simple changes could make for water that breaks 
>>> up more easily.� I would love to know what results you 
>>> demonstrated with the totally juvenile memory free water you put 
>>> back together from the OH?�
>>>
>>> Sorry to hear about your neck fracture, I have a similar issue and 
>>> it is extremely painful and debilitating at times.
>>>
>>> Mick
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/7/2018 4:15 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>> �
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11/7/2018 6:06 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Jakob Wall! & all other researchers on here need to read the Whole 
>>>>> Story as to why I no longer have a research lab.� Jakob, I'm 
>>>>> sorry I did not reveal to you the BEST in my opinion of methods of 
>>>>> producing hydrogen gas for I felt it was a little too advanced and 
>>>>> difficult for you to experiment with.� See: 
>>>>> https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en .�� There is 
>>>>> a very long story behind this US Patent and a hell of a lot of 
>>>>> research. The quest for a very inexpensive method of splitting 
>>>>> water has been the Holy Grail of� cheap energy.�� In 
>>>>> addition to the research papers and links that I gave to you, here 
>>>>> are some more to dwell on.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.researchgate.net/post/At_what_temperature_water_will_decompose_to_Oxygen_and_Hydrogen
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.quora.com/Does-water-break-down-into-oxygen-and-hydrogen-at-high-temperatures-If-so-then-at-what-temperature
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.quora.com/How-much-water-can-you-split-into-hydrogen-and-oxygen-using-electrolysis-with-one-kilowatt-hour-of-electricity
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.redrok.com/hion96a1.htm
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.nature.com/articles/nplants201741�� Please read 
>>>>> carefully about the play of Nickel in this approach!
>>>>>
>>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_splitting
>>>>>
>>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water-gas_shift_reaction��� 
>>>>> I owned 77 acres of land in Eureka Springs, AR where they still 
>>>>> had the old water gas generator and gas storage facility.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decarboxylation
>>>>>
>>>>> https://phys.org/news/2018-02-uncovers-mechanism-water-splitting-catalyst.html
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/new-catalyst-could-split-water-cheaply/
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.technologyreview.com/s/512996/a-cheaper-way-to-make-hydrogen-from-water/
>>>>>
>>>>> "*SUPER STEAM* - A Tesla conference in Colorado surfaces new Super 
>>>>> Steam Technology (SST). Leonard Dorsett and friends from Texas 
>>>>> share strikingly similar views to Aquarian Agency Ltd. They have 
>>>>> technology which produces steam instantly at up to 3,000F without 
>>>>> a boiler and with 60% savings in fuel over traditional boilers. 
>>>>> Nitrogen rich, it can put out gasoline fires and treat many waste 
>>>>> problems. Of major importance to Aquarian, this nitrogen-rich 
>>>>> steam will help to produce heat and Aquastone at considerable 
>>>>> savings."
>>>>>
>>>>> For further information on Aquarian Agency Ltd. they can be 
>>>>> contacted at 38 Weir Rd, Wimbledon, London SW19 SUG, England or on 
>>>>> Internet at <aquarian ocign.ape.org>. *_SUPER STEAM TECHNOLOGY 
>>>>> PART 2_*
>>>>>
>>>>> Leonard Dorsett (PO Box 365, Grapevine, TX 76092) demonstrated his 
>>>>> Super Steam Technology at the 1994 International Tesla Symposium. 
>>>>> SST is a system for producing steam at any temperature or pressure 
>>>>> independently and instantly without the need for a conventional 
>>>>> boiler. It can instantly produce steam of any temperature from hot 
>>>>> water at 180F to super heated steam at over 3000F, while pressures 
>>>>> can vary from 1PSI to 3000PSI with airflow volumes of 1CFM up to 
>>>>> over 2000CFM. The system operates on propane, methane, petrol, 
>>>>> kerosene, methanol, diesel, hydrogen or just about anything else 
>>>>> that bums and converts virtually 100% of the fuel into usable 
>>>>> energy. (Note: The person in the picture is Norman Wootan of MRA fame)
>>>>>
>>>>> This all sounds great, but how does it work? The basis of the unit 
>>>>> is a specially designed open throat chamber with controlled air, 
>>>>> water and fuel interaction and a high voltage ignition resulting 
>>>>> in a direct fire process establishing thermal zones. This creates 
>>>>> a stoichiometric condition resulting in a full spectrum of steam 
>>>>> product. Now comes the interesting part At the increased 
>>>>> temperatures of steam, disassociation occurs. (Could this be a 
>>>>> clue to running cars on water??) The hydrogen and oxygen reacts 
>>>>> causing an exponential increase of energy resulting in super 
>>>>> heated steam. A similar superheat process was addressed by Tesla 
>>>>> in the October 12, 1911 publication of the "Engineering News Record".
>>>>>
>>>>> Applications of the SST system include a much more economical way 
>>>>> of producing electricity as no conventional boiler is needed. It 
>>>>> will also be an ideal low cost method for heating and cooling 
>>>>> homes and businesses. Small portable units can be developed for 
>>>>> home use, such as steam cleaning, and insect and ant removal, 
>>>>> without the dangers of insecticides. The system can also be used 
>>>>> for low cost purification of polluted water or sewerage and can 
>>>>> also convert salt water into drinking water both quickly and 
>>>>> inexpensively. Other uses are in fire fighting applications, ice 
>>>>> and snow removal from roads, etc. and sterilization and nurturing 
>>>>> of soil for agriculture where contamination has occurred.
>>>>>
>>>>> I had designed a method of making hydrogen from carbon & water 
>>>>> vapor using the Tesla Atomic Bombardment method of high frequency 
>>>>> inside of spherical inclosure like this experiments with the 
>>>>> carbon button lamp globes.�� After working with Leonard 
>>>>> Dorsett and his Super Steam Project, I chose to use the Water 
>>>>> Shift Process instead.� A side note is needed here!� The Super 
>>>>> Steam Process was a result of Professor Brown studying the method 
>>>>> the German's used for torpedo propulsion from WWI.� Acetylene 
>>>>> Gas and sea water produced an exothermic reaction generating Super 
>>>>> Steam. Brown built several reactors and tested them in the Tulsa 
>>>>> area to break (down hole) the parafin deposits to release crude oil.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Chemical equation for the reaction in the US Patent: 
>>>>> https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en
>>>>>
>>>>> *(6C + 12 H2O� = 6CO2 + 24H) *
>>>>>
>>>>> Hydrogen Reactor Development
>>>>>
>>>>> *�*
>>>>>
>>>>> Original concept design was a high voltage, high frequency 
>>>>> resonant device that utilized carbon water reaction with the 
>>>>> feedstock being in the form of graphite rod stock.� This unit 
>>>>> was designed for vehicle application and had too many limitations 
>>>>> to be used for mass hydrogen generation.� This type reactor is 
>>>>> very effective at hydrogen production since it targets the water 
>>>>> vapor molecule at MRI frequencies, which breaks the bonding, 
>>>>> allowing the carbon to latch onto the oxygen atoms leaving the 
>>>>> hydrogen free. This device was a closed system that used a simple 
>>>>> CO2/hydrogen separation stage that enabled the hydrogen to be feed 
>>>>> to an internal combustion engine.
>>>>>
>>>>> *�*
>>>>>
>>>>> *To allow for a sustained high mass flow of hydrogen gas output, 
>>>>> reactor design took on a radical change.� By incorporating the 
>>>>> Ranque/Hilsch, Counter Flow Implosion Vortex Principle, and 
>>>>> continuous high mass flow and gas separation were achieved in one 
>>>>> stage of operation.� Feedstock for this type reactor could be 
>>>>> any carbon-based material that could be put into a powder form.� 
>>>>> Highest carbon content of the feedstock provides for the most 
>>>>> efficient hydrogen production with the least undesirable output 
>>>>> material.*
>>>>>
>>>>> *�*
>>>>>
>>>>> *Super high temperature operating regime was chosen to be above 
>>>>> 2500 C for the purpose of producing atomic hydrogen in the 
>>>>> process.� The original reactor operated at temperatures that 
>>>>> easily gasified basic carbon into a plasma state (>10,000 F) more 
>>>>> easily allowing the production of hydrogen from the stoichiometric 
>>>>> feed stock ratios.*
>>>>>
>>>>> *
>>>>> *
>>>>>
>>>>> **
>>>>>
>>>>> I sold one of my Patents (Sonodiffuser) and paid for my 52 acres 
>>>>> of land and built a 5200 sq. Ft. lab the do the Prototype 
>>>>> machining and Proof of Concept testing for GAZPROM, Moscow in 
>>>>> 2005. A $1.2 million investment and they got the rights to the 
>>>>> process and I got the beautiful Research Lab all paid in full. I 
>>>>> was a self employed Contractor in Dallas working with HVAC, 
>>>>> Electrical and Electronics Maintenance so had to commute 170 
>>>>> miles/day and only had the week ends for my time! Having to mow 
>>>>> grass and maintane the 52 acres took all my time and when I 
>>>>> suffered a neck fracture in 2012, had to retire. Liquidated the 
>>>>> entire facility and sold it off. Moved to Dallas then to South 
>>>>> Louisiana where I now do a lot of relaxing and fishing!
>>>>>
>>>>> Hector and ALL, I did my time in the Barrel so now I will just 
>>>>> contribute to the dialog inorder to assist any research you may be 
>>>>> doing within my area of experitise!���� BTW! I have been 
>>>>> out to pasture for a long time now, so no BULL offense!� As 
>>>>> Hector knows, "It fits"! Lol
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes! Hector, I will wear my Border Patrol Hat when you come visit 
>>>>> from PR!� Lol
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/6/2018 8:52 PM, [email protected] 
>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>> �
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> By the way ... i can hit mega millions or the power ball� . i 
>>>>>> never will not have a lab i can work in,� that is worst than 
>>>>>> death , you have no idea of the technology that had being lost by 
>>>>>> the greedy fucking bastards fucking my life , they will loose all 
>>>>>> they have� "soon" because it had being engineered that way by 
>>>>>> accumulative bad karma, i have another lab they will never reach 
>>>>>> or be able to intercept or destroy and that will decide their 
>>>>>> fate ..... they will be fucked hard !
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (H)� �
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>, 
>>>>>> <mkjekyll@...> <mailto:mkjekyll@...> wrote :
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cmon Hector,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bad taste!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The man had a more serious lab than anyone else here and his work 
>>>>>> speaks for itself.� Maybe he has gained the fortune he desired 
>>>>>> through R&D and now shitting in tall cotton or gone fishing 
>>>>>> reaping the rewards of retirement. Notwithstanding is still kind 
>>>>>> enough to help point us in the right directions around here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "*Funny�I can look back on a life of achievement, on challenges 
>>>>>> met, competitors bested, obstacles overcome. I�ve accomplished 
>>>>>> more than most men, and without the use of my legs. What?What 
>>>>>> makes a man, Mr. Lebowski?"*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/6/2018 8:04 AM, arkresearch@... <mailto:arkresearch@...> 
>>>>>> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     �
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Dar n ! a Scientist inventor with no lab is like a breeding
>>>>>>>     bull with no balls !
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Balls Cow GIF - Balls Cow WingDangDoodle GIFs
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     ---In [email protected]
>>>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]>, <nwootan@...>
>>>>>>>     <mailto:nwootan@...> wrote :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Jacob! You asked me a question and I gave you my opinion!�
>>>>>>>     I'm totally retired at 80 years old and have no lab to
>>>>>>>     experiment in!� Your quote; I heard once a phrase from a
>>>>>>>     researcher who said. '' Slow down boy, we get paid for
>>>>>>>     llooking for solutions, not to find them!''�� That
>>>>>>>     certainly does not apply to me for I have shared all with
>>>>>>>     the folks on this site.� I find you statement very
>>>>>>>     interesting:� Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24
>>>>>>>     hours with usual amount of gas looks to me extremely
>>>>>>>     inefficient.�� ??????������� Care to share
>>>>>>>     where you saw the power of a permanent magnet being used
>>>>>>>     up!�� We all here on this site share what ever knowledge
>>>>>>>     we have on the various subjects not seeking any monetary
>>>>>>>     gain in any way! That is my approach!�� I just
>>>>>>>     contribute to the dialog when I run across something
>>>>>>>     interesting and think it will assist you guys!�� Norm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     On 11/3/2018 11:32 PM, Jakob Wall wall_jakob@...
>>>>>>>     <mailto:wall_jakob@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         �
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         Thanks Norman,
>>>>>>>>         But i actually asced for ''most efficient way'' to
>>>>>>>>         split water known to you!
>>>>>>>>         I realize there are a lot of different technigues to do
>>>>>>>>         just that.
>>>>>>>>         And yes i realize you could give me a rather complex
>>>>>>>>         answer. But instead i hope for a
>>>>>>>>         rather easy and reproductive answer since i am looking
>>>>>>>>         forward to solve my enerrgy
>>>>>>>>         problems i just can not live with the momentary (sad
>>>>>>>>         and very stupid energy situation)
>>>>>>>>         I am still not giving up becouse of a couple mistakes
>>>>>>>>         and misunderstandings.
>>>>>>>>         If i would be a car dealer and you would ask me for a
>>>>>>>>         most efficient car available on the market
>>>>>>>>         i would for sure not recommend a Prius, since there are
>>>>>>>>         a lot of cars with better fuel economie
>>>>>>>>         even without being a hybrid and without additional cost
>>>>>>>>         like batterys,e-motors and a bunch added ECU's
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours with
>>>>>>>>         usual amount of gas looks to me extremely
>>>>>>>>         inefficient.
>>>>>>>>         Also very expensive HHO-Garage products with output of
>>>>>>>>         1,6 ltr/min.
>>>>>>>>         Come on, 6 rusty nails and a old car batery does this
>>>>>>>>         job, no need to spend 1600 bucks on it.
>>>>>>>>         I honestly expected solide advise or a honest NO way
>>>>>>>>         boy, i just talking around.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. ''
>>>>>>>>         Slow down boy, we get paid for llooking for
>>>>>>>>         solutions, not to find them!'' That shoked me deeply
>>>>>>>>         and even if i get 150 years old, i will not forget it.
>>>>>>>>         Thats true treason on mankind and deciving the people.
>>>>>>>>         I really hope nobody on this forum only care
>>>>>>>>         about what he/she will be doing tomorrow.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         Jakob
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         --------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>         On Sun, 10/28/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>>>>>         <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery
>>>>>>>>         To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]>, "Bert Pool"
>>>>>>>>         <BertPool512@...> <mailto:BertPool512@...>, "Bob
>>>>>>>>         Paddock" <bob.paddock@...> <mailto:bob.paddock@...>,
>>>>>>>>         "joel mcclain" <joel_76670@...>
>>>>>>>>         <mailto:joel_76670@...>, "Jon Gentry" <jongen422@...>
>>>>>>>>         <mailto:jongen422@...>, "Mbking42" <mbking42@...>
>>>>>>>>         <mailto:mbking42@...>, "Toby Grotz" <wireless2@...>
>>>>>>>>         <mailto:wireless2@...>, "Phil Rembold" <prembold@...>
>>>>>>>>         <mailto:prembold@...>, "Angel Alvarez" <angel@...>
>>>>>>>>         <mailto:angel@...>, "Fredric Fletcher" <ffletcher@...>
>>>>>>>>         <mailto:ffletcher@...>
>>>>>>>>         Received: Sunday, October 28, 2018, 9:44 AM
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         �
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         Jacob!� That would be a rather complex answer
>>>>>>>>         but here is your
>>>>>>>>         starting point!
>>>>>>>>         https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct-thermomagnetic-splitting-of-water-.html���
>>>>>>>>         After having been heavily involved in the COLD FUSION
>>>>>>>>         Research
>>>>>>>>         back in the 70s and 80s I quickly settled o0n the best
>>>>>>>>         catalyst in
>>>>>>>>         electrolytic cells which is pure nickel. I still have
>>>>>>>>         the cell
>>>>>>>>         used in the Elemental Replication experiments.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm����
>>>>>>>>         The hidden
>>>>>>>>         part of this research is the use of a nickel component
>>>>>>>>         in the
>>>>>>>>         combustion chamber. Bosch developed 90,000V ignition
>>>>>>>>         systems to
>>>>>>>>         enable water injection in gas engine which high
>>>>>>>>         lighted the
>>>>>>>>         Graneau HV decomposition of water via HVDC
>>>>>>>>         discharge!
>>>>>>>>         My magnetic Battery when run as an electrolytic cell
>>>>>>>>         to produce
>>>>>>>>         hydrogen does produce a huge amount of hydrogen gas as
>>>>>>>>         shown by
>>>>>>>>         the Dr. Ehrenhaft document.� I would tell you to
>>>>>>>>         pursue the super
>>>>>>>>         high Tesla magnetic flux and nickel electrodes in an
>>>>>>>>         electrolytic
>>>>>>>>         cell.� The major obstacle to be overcome is the rapid
>>>>>>>>         collection
>>>>>>>>         of ions from solution by the 1.3 Tesla flux across a
>>>>>>>>         .020"
>>>>>>>>         mechanical gap which quickly takes the cell into a
>>>>>>>>         super-conduction mode which takes out the driving DC
>>>>>>>>         power supply.
>>>>>>>>         You can flush the magnetic gaps with distilled water
>>>>>>>>         and the gaps
>>>>>>>>         will show in the meg-ohm range then go to zero ohms
>>>>>>>>         after a short
>>>>>>>>         period of running, the gathered ions totally short
>>>>>>>>         cell. During
>>>>>>>>         the brief runs there is a huge amount of hydrogen gas
>>>>>>>>         produced�
>>>>>>>>         which I burned off as it was generated.� Much can be
>>>>>>>>         said about
>>>>>>>>         driving the cell with high frequencies as the Myers
>>>>>>>>         research
>>>>>>>>         showed.� Our friend up in Canada at George Wiseman,
>>>>>>>>         Eagle Research
>>>>>>>>         is running well ahead of the crowd on the production
>>>>>>>>         of H-H-O.
>>>>>>>>         Just for giggles!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         16 October
>>>>>>>>         1996
>>>>>>>>         To: Hal
>>>>>>>>         Fox,� Fusion Facts
>>>>>>>>         Elemental
>>>>>>>>         Replication ?
>>>>>>>>         �
>>>>>>>>         ����� Around mid
>>>>>>>>         September
>>>>>>>>         I put together an
>>>>>>>>         electrolysis cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold
>>>>>>>>         Fusion Cell
>>>>>>>>         with the goal of
>>>>>>>>         exploring the possibilities of making what is
>>>>>>>>         termed �Pristine
>>>>>>>>         Water�.�� This water
>>>>>>>>         which will be used by Homeopaths
>>>>>>>>         will have had all memory or information
>>>>>>>>         removed.� This is accomplished by
>>>>>>>>         recombining monatomic
>>>>>>>>         hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated in a
>>>>>>>>         properly
>>>>>>>>         designed cell.� This is
>>>>>>>>         the ultimate in purity since this is
>>>>>>>>         water with conditions at the time of original
>>>>>>>>         creation.� �Holly Water�is a term
>>>>>>>>         coined by my dear
>>>>>>>>         friend and fellow researcher Joe Tyls of
>>>>>>>>         Vancouver, BC.�� After several weeks of
>>>>>>>>         successful operation
>>>>>>>>         producing water that had all the earmarks of a
>>>>>>>>         true �pristine
>>>>>>>>         water� a fellow
>>>>>>>>         researcher suggested using an alternate
>>>>>>>>         electrolyte.�� A solution was selected
>>>>>>>>         that contained 77
>>>>>>>>         colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the
>>>>>>>>         easiest
>>>>>>>>         assimilated into the
>>>>>>>>         body.�� With the
>>>>>>>>         electrolyte changed the
>>>>>>>>         cell was put back into operation as before with a
>>>>>>>>         nice
>>>>>>>>         recombination burn and
>>>>>>>>         production of the sought after �pristine
>>>>>>>>         water�.�������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������
>>>>>>>>         �������
>>>>>>>>         ��� After about an
>>>>>>>>         hour of
>>>>>>>>         operation the cell
>>>>>>>>         went absolutely �nuts� with the temperature
>>>>>>>>         rapidly climbing
>>>>>>>>         to boiling point
>>>>>>>>         and the current out of sight.�
>>>>>>>>         When the
>>>>>>>>         cell was opened we found a deep red sludge deposit
>>>>>>>>         which
>>>>>>>>         shorted the cell
>>>>>>>>         plates.�� Our first
>>>>>>>>         thought was that the
>>>>>>>>         electrolytic action precipitated out the colloidal
>>>>>>>>         minerals
>>>>>>>>         which caused the
>>>>>>>>         deposit found.�� The�
>>>>>>>>         electrolyte was allowed
>>>>>>>>         to settle out the
>>>>>>>>         precipitate.�� After�
>>>>>>>>         decanting off,� the clear electrolyte
>>>>>>>>         was
>>>>>>>>         returned to the
>>>>>>>>         cell for another run. Again the cell operated
>>>>>>>>         normally for
>>>>>>>>         about an hour with a
>>>>>>>>         normal recombination burn and recovery of the
>>>>>>>>         water being
>>>>>>>>         consumed by the cell
>>>>>>>>         in the splitting action.�� Again
>>>>>>>>         the cell
>>>>>>>>         temperature and current mirrored the first
>>>>>>>>         run.�
>>>>>>>>         Again the cell contained the same amount of
>>>>>>>>         sludge
>>>>>>>>         residue.�� This process
>>>>>>>>         was repeated ten (10) times
>>>>>>>>         with exactly the same results.��
>>>>>>>>         All of
>>>>>>>>         the sludge was carefully dried and weighed on an
>>>>>>>>         electronic
>>>>>>>>         scale with a five
>>>>>>>>         decimal
>>>>>>>>         resolution.���������������������
>>>>>>>>         The cell plates and all hardware were
>>>>>>>>         weighed to
>>>>>>>>         determine any loss of
>>>>>>>>         mass that may contribute to the mass gain observed
>>>>>>>>         in the
>>>>>>>>         sludge.� Five hundred
>>>>>>>>         (500) ml of the original
>>>>>>>>         electrolyte solution used in the cell was vacuum
>>>>>>>>         distilled to
>>>>>>>>         determine the
>>>>>>>>         exact mass of colloidal minerals
>>>>>>>>         contained.�
>>>>>>>>         When all factors were considered we came
>>>>>>>>         out with a
>>>>>>>>         mass gain of� 48 gm
>>>>>>>>         which cannot be explained by
>>>>>>>>         conventional
>>>>>>>>         electrolysis.����������������������
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         ��� After talking
>>>>>>>>         to Dr.
>>>>>>>>         Robert Bass and Hal
>>>>>>>>         Fox I learned of a patent that has been filed on
>>>>>>>>         the
>>>>>>>>         transmutation of elements
>>>>>>>>         in the cold fusion cell which is the process that
>>>>>>>>         Dr. John
>>>>>>>>         Bockris has been so
>>>>>>>>         active in.�� Both Dr.
>>>>>>>>         Bass and Hal Fox
>>>>>>>>         stated that what I was observing is not the same
>>>>>>>>         as the
>>>>>>>>         transmutation observed
>>>>>>>>         in the cold fusion cell since I have a overall
>>>>>>>>         mass gain and
>>>>>>>>         not a lateral
>>>>>>>>         movement of elements in the periodic table toward
>>>>>>>>         lighter
>>>>>>>>         elements with a
>>>>>>>>         resulting heat release.� This
>>>>>>>>         unusual
>>>>>>>>         cell operation has caused quite a reaction in the
>>>>>>>>         scientific
>>>>>>>>         community. �At this
>>>>>>>>         time I have built a complete new cell
>>>>>>>>         with every possible factor which could possibly
>>>>>>>>         explain the
>>>>>>>>         mass gain
>>>>>>>>         considered and documented.� The
>>>>>>>>         ten (10)
>>>>>>>>         consecutive runs on the new cell will be completed
>>>>>>>>         soon and a
>>>>>>>>         report will be
>>>>>>>>         forthcoming.�� What is
>>>>>>>>         interesting about
>>>>>>>>         this phenomenon is that when an eleventh run was
>>>>>>>>         made with the
>>>>>>>>         original
>>>>>>>>         electrolyte exactly the same amount of residue was
>>>>>>>>         recovered
>>>>>>>>         as in the previous
>>>>>>>>         ten
>>>>>>>>         runs.�����������������������������������������������������������������������
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         �
>>>>>>>>         Since
>>>>>>>>         the same electrolyte is reused each time with only
>>>>>>>>         distilled
>>>>>>>>         water being added
>>>>>>>>         to replace the volume lost by the removal of the
>>>>>>>>         solids and
>>>>>>>>         the water recovered
>>>>>>>>         by the recombination burn we are hard pressed to
>>>>>>>>         explain the
>>>>>>>>         observed
>>>>>>>>         phenomenon.���� The
>>>>>>>>         electrolyte appears
>>>>>>>>         stronger in mineral concentration and shows no
>>>>>>>>         sign of
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         depletion.��������������������������������
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         �� After conferring
>>>>>>>>         with
>>>>>>>>         Joe Tyls we arrived at
>>>>>>>>         the conclusion that the 77 colloidal minerals
>>>>>>>>         contained in the
>>>>>>>>         electrolyte
>>>>>>>>         provide the atomic templates needed for the
>>>>>>>>         monatomic hydrogen
>>>>>>>>         (father of all
>>>>>>>>         the elements) to replicate selected elements in
>>>>>>>>         this exotic
>>>>>>>>         mixture.� If you
>>>>>>>>         subscribe to the theories of the late
>>>>>>>>         Walter Russell and his explanation of the octave
>>>>>>>>         based
>>>>>>>>         periodic table with
>>>>>>>>         monatonic hydrogen being what he describes as
>>>>>>>>         hydrons
>>>>>>>>         (precursor to hydrogen)
>>>>>>>>         then it is possible for the replication of
>>>>>>>>         elements directly
>>>>>>>>         from energy input
>>>>>>>>         alone.� This is how all
>>>>>>>>         matter was
>>>>>>>>         created in the beginning as described by
>>>>>>>>         Schappeller in �The
>>>>>>>>         Physics of the
>>>>>>>>         Primary State of Matter�.��� I
>>>>>>>>         will keep
>>>>>>>>         all informed as to our progress and findings in
>>>>>>>>         this very
>>>>>>>>         intriguing venture.
>>>>>>>>         �
>>>>>>>>         Norman
>>>>>>>>         Wootan
>>>>>>>>         P.O.
>>>>>>>>         Box 141049
>>>>>>>>         Dallas,
>>>>>>>>         TX 75214
>>>>>>>>         (214)
>>>>>>>>         360-0865
>>>>>>>>         �
>>>>>>>>         �
>>>>>>>>         CC:� Gene Mallove,
>>>>>>>>         Infinite
>>>>>>>>         Energy
>>>>>>>>         CC:� Dr. John
>>>>>>>>         Bockris, Texas
>>>>>>>>         A/M
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         On 10/28/2018 1:01 AM,
>>>>>>>>         Jakob Wall
>>>>>>>>         wall_jakob@... <mailto:wall_jakob@...>
>>>>>>>>         [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         �
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         Thanks Norman,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         BTW, what is the most effective water split
>>>>>>>>         device that
>>>>>>>>         you ever put you hands on?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         As HHO researcher for dekades you should be
>>>>>>>>         able to point
>>>>>>>>         us directly to the most effective known!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         Please be specific about reconstruction of the
>>>>>>>>         same, since
>>>>>>>>         we are in public domain it will become public
>>>>>>>>         knowledge
>>>>>>>>         and public good. I assume you intend nothing
>>>>>>>>         else,rigth ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         --------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         On Sat, 10/27/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>>>>>         <mailto:nwootan@...>
>>>>>>>>         [EVGRAY]
>>>>>>>>         <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>         wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's
>>>>>>>>         Magnetic
>>>>>>>>         Battery [3 Attachments]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         To: "Bert Pool" <BertPool512@...> <mailto:BertPool512@...>,
>>>>>>>>         "Bob
>>>>>>>>         Paddock" <bob.paddock@...> <mailto:bob.paddock@...>,
>>>>>>>>         "joel mcclain"
>>>>>>>>         <joel_76670@...> <mailto:joel_76670@...>,
>>>>>>>>         "Jon Gentry"
>>>>>>>>         <jongen422@...> <mailto:jongen422@...>,
>>>>>>>>         "Lane Wootan"
>>>>>>>>         <lanewootan@...> <mailto:lanewootan@...>,
>>>>>>>>         "Mbking42"
>>>>>>>>         <mbking42@...> <mailto:mbking42@...>,
>>>>>>>>         "Toby Grotz"
>>>>>>>>         <wireless2@...> <mailto:wireless2@...>,
>>>>>>>>         "Phil Rembold"
>>>>>>>>         <prembold@...> <mailto:prembold@...>,
>>>>>>>>         "Angel Alvarez"
>>>>>>>>         <angel@...> <mailto:angel@...>,
>>>>>>>>         "Fredric Fletcher"
>>>>>>>>         <ffletcher@...> <mailto:ffletcher@...>,
>>>>>>>>         [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         To understand the unwinding of a thread
>>>>>>>>         leading
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         to Magnetic
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         Generating Hydrogen and this Magnetic Battery,
>>>>>>>>         we have
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         to dust off
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         our� 9th grade Chemistry Books!
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Hey Norm , your life's experiences have been fruitful!! Congrats!!

Have you ever played with table top combinations  such as thorium and fluoride or the molten salt combo?

On a hobbyist  basis approach?

Rossi likes to inject nickel/mag  powder so as I see to maintain his 1k output!.

________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
Sent: November 9, 2018 3:12 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery [2 Attachments]



Mick! To answer the rest of your questions:  In that ARC process you have to use carbon rods to yield the carbon monoxide & hydrogen.  (carbon source) (arc is heat source).

Holy Water was interesting part of the Elemental Replication experiment. See:

Elemental Replication ?



      Around mid September I put together an electrolysis cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold Fusion Cell with the goal of exploring the possibilities of making what is termed “Pristine Water”.   This water which will be used by Homeopaths will have had all memory or information removed.  This is accomplished by recombining monatomic hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated in a properly designed cell.  This is the ultimate in purity since this is water with conditions at the time of original creation.  “Wholy Water”is a term coined by my dear friend and fellow researcher Joe Tyls of Vancouver, BC.   After several weeks of successful operation producing water that had all the earmarks of a true “pristine water” a fellow researcher suggested using an alternate electrolyte.   A solution was selected that contained 77 colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the easiest assimilated into the body.   With the electrolyte changed the cell was put back into operation as before with a nice recombination burn and production of the sought after “pristine water”.


The water produced in the recombination burn of the H-H-O was collected from a silica glass condenser into a silica glass beaker for sampling.  When you flipped several CCs of the water into your mouth and tried to swallow, there was nothing there.  Hmmmm!  We immediately tested the viscosity and surface tension of the water and found it to be far below human blood which means that the water diffused directly into the capillaries around the tongue therefore nothing there to swallow.  The two Doctor who were there were amazed.   To prove the theory as to information carried by water, we collected a sample of several CCs into a plastic lab cup instead of the silica glass beaker. When you flipped the several CCs into your mouth you had to immediately spit it out for it was pure taste of plastic. This water picks up signature of anything it comes into contact with.  That is why the Homeopathic Doctors wanted it for making their tinctures.    (signature of a healing agent).     We had all the necessary instruments to evaluate the Pristine water. See:   https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemorheology

Hemorheology - Wikipedia<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemorheology>
en.m.wikipedia.org
Blood viscosity is a measure of the resistance of blood to flow. It can also be described as the thickness and stickiness of blood. This biophysical property makes it a critical determinant of friction against the vessel walls, the rate of venous return, the work required for the heart to pump blood, and how much oxygen is transported to tissues and organs.


   http://www.dynalenelabs.com/testing-services/thermal-testing/viscosity-rheology/?gclid=CjwKCAiA_ZTfBRBjEiwAN6YG4SdHu5bWZ9yHLBM9VNQ0TLl4tB1hOqMvR_dOEHNbGX6k_kDHHtb5xhoCgIgQAvD_BwE          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tensiometer

  https://hydramotion.com/en/technical/units-of-viscosity

I made an offer to the Doctors present that a small unit for production of a liter/day of Pristine Water via complete unit built of quartz glass could be had for $5,000. Apparently they were not that enthused as we thought!  Oh! Well!

I built numerous Pyramids of all sizes and the Orgone Accumulators and even the Cloud  Buster.   The pyramid experiments were very interesting for real effects were shown.   Never tested whether water would  break after treatment by either Orgone  or pyramid.    The complete description of the 4 inch cell is in the Elemental replication Part Two. See:


Cell Description



    The electrolysis cell is designed to hold one (1) liter of electrolyte and operate at approximately 150 watt power level for the production of monatomic hydrogen and  monatomic oxygen which is burned back to pure water and collected in a glass condenser.  Cell container is schedule 40 PVC pipe section 6 inches long with bottom cap cemented on.  The top of the cell has a 4 inch female thread adapter cemented on to provide access to the interior via a male threaded plug which has the gas outlet port and two electrolyte fill ports to provide for replacement of lost electrolyte on the fly for continuos operation.  Positive and negative terminals are provided for external connection of the power supply leads to the internal anode- cathode stack.

    The cell plate stack consist of 8 anode plates and 8 cathode plates of the following sizes constructed from 316L stainless steel of 22 ga. thickness.

4 ea.  3” X 3” plates,  2 ea. 3” X 2.75”plates,  2 ea. 3” X 2.5”plates,  2 ea. 3” X 2.25” plates,  2 ea. 3” X 2” plates,  2 ea. 3” X 1.75” plates, and  2 ea. 3” X 1.5” plates.  The plates are drilled and stacked with alternating anode and cathode plates spaced 1/8” apart which makes a cylindrical shaped array which fits nicely inside of the 4” ID PVC  cell container.  Electrical leads are braided copper of #10 size which are covered by shrink tubing to cover conductive surface as they pass through the electrolyte to the cell terminal bolts.  All electrical surfaces other than the anode and cathode plates are carefully covered with PVC cement to prevent deterioration from electrolyte contact.    Please note that if allowed to come into contact with “charged” surfaces monatomic hydrogen and monatonic oxygen will imediately form into their usual occuring state as diatomic H2 and O2 molecules.



On 11/8/2018 4:29 PM, Mick [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:


Hi Norm,

The catalysts are very interesting.  Iron Cobalt and Nickel all ferromagnetic but at different spins.

Correct me if I am wrong but based on reading your links a bingofuel type reactor using tungsten electrodes that hopefully would last much longer would likely produce OH rather than H and carbon monoxide, what do you think?

Also water is strange indeed in that a pyramid or orgone accumulator changes it and these simple changes could make for water that breaks up more easily.  I would love to know what results you demonstrated with the totally juvenile memory free water you put back together from the OH?

Sorry to hear about your neck fracture, I have a similar issue and it is extremely painful and debilitating at times.

Mick

On 11/7/2018 4:15 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:



On 11/7/2018 6:06 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:

Jakob Wall! & all other researchers on here need to read the Whole Story as to why I no longer have a research lab.  Jakob, I'm sorry I did not reveal to you the BEST in my opinion of methods of producing hydrogen gas for I felt it was a little too advanced and difficult for you to experiment with.  See: https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en .   There is a very long story behind this US Patent and a hell of a lot of research. The quest for a very inexpensive method of splitting water has been the Holy Grail of  cheap energy.   In addition to the research papers and links that I gave to you, here are some more to dwell on.

https://www.researchgate.net/post/At_what_temperature_water_will_decompose_to_Oxygen_and_Hydrogen

https://www.quora.com/Does-water-break-down-into-oxygen-and-hydrogen-at-high-temperatures-If-so-then-at-what-temperature

https://www.quora.com/How-much-water-can-you-split-into-hydrogen-and-oxygen-using-electrolysis-with-one-kilowatt-hour-of-electricity

http://www.redrok.com/hion96a1.htm

https://www.nature.com/articles/nplants201741   Please read carefully about the play of Nickel in this approach!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_splitting

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water-gas_shift_reaction    I owned 77 acres of land in Eureka Springs, AR where they still had the old water gas generator and gas storage facility.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decarboxylation

https://phys.org/news/2018-02-uncovers-mechanism-water-splitting-catalyst.html

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/new-catalyst-could-split-water-cheaply/

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/512996/a-cheaper-way-to-make-hydrogen-from-water/

"SUPER STEAM - A Tesla conference in Colorado surfaces new Super Steam Technology (SST). Leonard Dorsett and friends from Texas share strikingly similar views to Aquarian Agency Ltd. They have technology which produces steam instantly at up to 3,000F without a boiler and with 60% savings in fuel over traditional boilers. Nitrogen rich, it can put out gasoline fires and treat many waste problems. Of major importance to Aquarian, this nitrogen-rich steam will help to produce heat and Aquastone at considerable savings."

For further information on Aquarian Agency Ltd. they can be contacted at 38 Weir Rd, Wimbledon, London SW19 SUG, England or on Internet at <aquarian ocign.ape.org>. SUPER STEAM TECHNOLOGY PART 2[http://astrosa.com/n95/n059501.gif]

Leonard Dorsett (PO Box 365, Grapevine, TX 76092) demonstrated his Super Steam Technology at the 1994 International Tesla Symposium. SST is a system for producing steam at any temperature or pressure independently and instantly without the need for a conventional boiler. It can instantly produce steam of any temperature from hot water at 180F to super heated steam at over 3000F, while pressures can vary from 1PSI to 3000PSI with airflow volumes of 1CFM up to over 2000CFM. The system operates on propane, methane, petrol, kerosene, methanol, diesel, hydrogen or just about anything else that bums and converts virtually 100% of the fuel into usable energy. (Note: The person in the picture is Norman Wootan of MRA fame)

This all sounds great, but how does it work? The basis of the unit is a specially designed open throat chamber with controlled air, water and fuel interaction and a high voltage ignition resulting in a direct fire process establishing thermal zones. This creates a stoichiometric condition resulting in a full spectrum of steam product. Now comes the interesting part At the increased temperatures of steam, disassociation occurs. (Could this be a clue to running cars on water??) The hydrogen and oxygen reacts causing an exponential increase of energy resulting in super heated steam. A similar superheat process was addressed by Tesla in the October 12, 1911 publication of the "Engineering News Record".

Applications of the SST system include a much more economical way of producing electricity as no conventional boiler is needed. It will also be an ideal low cost method for heating and cooling homes and businesses. Small portable units can be developed for home use, such as steam cleaning, and insect and ant removal, without the dangers of insecticides. The system can also be used for low cost purification of polluted water or sewerage and can also convert salt water into drinking water both quickly and inexpensively. Other uses are in fire fighting applications, ice and snow removal from roads, etc. and sterilization and nurturing of soil for agriculture where contamination has occurred.

I had designed a method of making hydrogen from carbon & water vapor using the Tesla Atomic Bombardment method of high frequency inside of spherical inclosure like this experiments with the carbon button lamp globes.   After working with Leonard Dorsett and his Super Steam Project, I chose to use the Water Shift Process instead.  A side note is needed here!  The Super Steam Process was a result of Professor Brown studying the method the German's used for torpedo propulsion from WWI.  Acetylene Gas and sea water produced an exothermic reaction generating Super Steam. Brown built several reactors and tested them in the Tulsa area to break (down hole) the parafin deposits to release crude oil.

The Chemical equation for the reaction in the US Patent: https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en

(6C + 12 H2O  = 6CO2 + 24H)

Hydrogen Reactor Development



Original concept design was a high voltage, high frequency resonant device that utilized carbon water reaction with the feedstock being in the form of graphite rod stock.  This unit was designed for vehicle application and had too many limitations to be used for mass hydrogen generation.  This type reactor is very effective at hydrogen production since it targets the water vapor molecule at MRI frequencies, which breaks the bonding, allowing the carbon to latch onto the oxygen atoms leaving the hydrogen free. This device was a closed system that used a simple CO2/hydrogen separation stage that enabled the hydrogen to be feed to an internal combustion engine.



To allow for a sustained high mass flow of hydrogen gas output, reactor design took on a radical change.  By incorporating the Ranque/Hilsch, Counter Flow Implosion Vortex Principle, and continuous high mass flow and gas separation were achieved in one stage of operation.  Feedstock for this type reactor could be any carbon-based material that could be put into a powder form.  Highest carbon content of the feedstock provides for the most efficient hydrogen production with the least undesirable output material.



Super high temperature operating regime was chosen to be above 2500 C for the purpose of producing atomic hydrogen in the process.  The original reactor operated at temperatures that easily gasified basic carbon into a plasma state (>10,000 F) more easily allowing the production of hydrogen from the stoichiometric feed stock ratios.


[cid:[email protected]]

I sold one of my Patents (Sonodiffuser) and paid for my 52 acres of land and built a 5200 sq. Ft. lab the do the Prototype machining and Proof of Concept testing for GAZPROM, Moscow in 2005. A $1.2 million investment and they got the rights to the process and I got the beautiful Research Lab all paid in full. I was a self employed Contractor in Dallas working with HVAC, Electrical and Electronics Maintenance so had to commute 170 miles/day and only had the week ends for my time! Having to mow grass and maintane the 52 acres took all my time and when I suffered a neck fracture in 2012, had to retire. Liquidated the entire facility and sold it off. Moved to Dallas then to South Louisiana where I now do a lot of relaxing and fishing!

Hector and ALL, I did my time in the Barrel so now I will just contribute to the dialog inorder to assist any research you may be doing within my area of experitise!     BTW! I have been out to pasture for a long time now, so no BULL offense!  As Hector knows, "It fits"! Lol



[cid:[email protected]]

Yes! Hector, I will wear my Border Patrol Hat when you come visit from PR!  Lol




On 11/6/2018 8:52 PM, [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:


By the way ... i can hit mega millions or the power ball  . i never will not have a lab i can work in,  that is worst than death , you have no idea of the technology that had being lost by the greedy fucking bastards fucking my life , they will loose all they have  "soon" because it had being engineered that way by accumulative bad karma, i have another lab they will never reach or be able to intercept or destroy and that will decide their fate ..... they will be fucked hard !



(H)

---In [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>, <mkjekyll@...><mailto:mkjekyll@...> wrote :


Cmon Hector,

Bad taste!

The man had a more serious lab than anyone else here and his work speaks for itself.  Maybe he has gained the fortune he desired through R&D and now shitting in tall cotton or gone fishing reaping the rewards of retirement. Notwithstanding is still kind enough to help point us in the right directions around here.

"Funny–I can look back on a life of achievement, on challenges met, competitors bested, obstacles overcome. I’ve accomplished more than most men, and without the use of my legs. What?What makes a man, Mr. Lebowski?"

On 11/6/2018 8:04 AM, arkresearch@...<mailto:arkresearch@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:


Dar n ! a Scientist inventor with no lab is like a breeding bull with no balls !

[Balls Cow GIF - Balls Cow                                      WingDangDoodle GIFs]


---In [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>, <nwootan@...><mailto:nwootan@...> wrote :


Jacob! You asked me a question and I gave you my opinion!  I'm totally retired at 80 years old and have no lab to experiment in!  Your quote; I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. '' Slow down boy, we get paid for llooking for solutions, not to find them!''   That certainly does not apply to me for I have shared all with the folks on this site.  I find you statement very interesting:  Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours with usual amount of gas looks to me extremely inefficient.   ??????        Care to share where you saw the power of a permanent magnet being used up!   We all here on this site share what ever knowledge we have on the various subjects not seeking any monetary gain in any way! That is my approach!   I just contribute to the dialog when I run across something interesting and think it will assist you guys!   Norm

On 11/3/2018 11:32 PM, Jakob Wall wall_jakob@...<mailto:wall_jakob@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:


Thanks Norman,
But i actually asced for ''most efficient way'' to split water known to you!
I realize there are a lot of different technigues to do just that.
And yes i realize you could give me a rather complex answer. But instead i hope for a
rather easy and reproductive answer since i am looking forward to solve my enerrgy
problems i just can not live with the momentary (sad and very stupid energy situation)
I am still not giving up becouse of a couple mistakes and misunderstandings.
If i would be a car dealer and you would ask me for a most efficient car available on the market
i would for sure not recommend a Prius, since there are a lot of cars with better fuel economie
even without being a hybrid and without additional cost like batterys,e-motors and a bunch added ECU's

Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours with usual amount of gas looks to me extremely
inefficient.
Also very expensive HHO-Garage products with output of 1,6 ltr/min.
Come on, 6 rusty nails and a old car batery does this job, no need to spend 1600 bucks on it.
I honestly expected solide advise or a honest NO way boy, i just talking around.

I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. '' Slow down boy, we get paid for llooking for
solutions, not to find them!'' That shoked me deeply and even if i get 150 years old, i will not forget it.
Thats true treason on mankind and deciving the people. I really hope nobody on this forum only care
about what he/she will be doing tomorrow.

Jakob

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On Sun, 10/28/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@...<mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]> wrote:

Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>, "Bert Pool" <BertPool512@...><mailto:BertPool512@...>, "Bob Paddock" <bob.paddock@...><mailto:bob.paddock@...>, "joel mcclain" <joel_76670@...><mailto:joel_76670@...>, "Jon Gentry" <jongen422@...><mailto:jongen422@...>, "Mbking42" <mbking42@...><mailto:mbking42@...>, "Toby Grotz" <wireless2@...><mailto:wireless2@...>, "Phil Rembold" <prembold@...><mailto:prembold@...>, "Angel Alvarez" <angel@...><mailto:angel@...>, "Fredric Fletcher" <ffletcher@...><mailto:ffletcher@...>
Received: Sunday, October 28, 2018, 9:44 AM















Jacob!  That would be a rather complex answer
but here is your
starting point!
https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct-thermomagnetic-splitting-of-water-.html
After having been heavily involved in the COLD FUSION
Research
back in the 70s and 80s I quickly settled o0n the best
catalyst in
electrolytic cells which is pure nickel. I still have
the cell
used in the Elemental Replication experiments.


http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm
The hidden
part of this research is the use of a nickel component
in the
combustion chamber. Bosch developed 90,000V ignition
systems to
enable water injection in gas engine which high
lighted the
Graneau HV decomposition of water via HVDC
discharge!
My magnetic Battery when run as an electrolytic cell
to produce
hydrogen does produce a huge amount of hydrogen gas as
shown by
the Dr. Ehrenhaft document.  I would tell you to
pursue the super
high Tesla magnetic flux and nickel electrodes in an
electrolytic
cell.  The major obstacle to be overcome is the rapid
collection
of ions from solution by the 1.3 Tesla flux across a
.020"
mechanical gap which quickly takes the cell into a
super-conduction mode which takes out the driving DC
power supply.
You can flush the magnetic gaps with distilled water
and the gaps
will show in the meg-ohm range then go to zero ohms
after a short
period of running, the gathered ions totally short
cell. During
the brief runs there is a huge amount of hydrogen gas
produced
which I burned off as it was generated.  Much can be
said about
driving the cell with high frequencies as the Myers
research
showed.  Our friend up in Canada at George Wiseman,
Eagle Research
is running well ahead of the crowd on the production
of H-H-O.
Just for giggles!


16 October
1996
To: Hal
Fox,  Fusion Facts
Elemental
Replication ?

      Around mid
September
I put together an
electrolysis cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold
Fusion Cell
with the goal of
exploring the possibilities of making what is
termed “Pristine
Water”.   This water
which will be used by Homeopaths
will have had all memory or information
removed.  This is accomplished by
recombining monatomic
hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated in a
properly
designed cell.  This is
the ultimate in purity since this is
water with conditions at the time of original
creation.  “Holly Water”is a term
coined by my dear
friend and fellow researcher Joe Tyls of
Vancouver, BC.   After several weeks of
successful operation
producing water that had all the earmarks of a
true “pristine
water” a fellow
researcher suggested using an alternate
electrolyte.   A solution was selected
that contained 77
colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the
easiest
assimilated into the
body.   With the
electrolyte changed the
cell was put back into operation as before with a
nice
recombination burn and
production of the sought after “pristine
water”.

    After about an
hour of
operation the cell
went absolutely “nuts” with the temperature
rapidly climbing
to boiling point
and the current out of sight.
When the
cell was opened we found a deep red sludge deposit
which
shorted the cell
plates.   Our first
thought was that the
electrolytic action precipitated out the colloidal
minerals
which caused the
deposit found.   The
electrolyte was allowed
to settle out the
precipitate.   After
decanting off,  the clear electrolyte
was
returned to the
cell for another run. Again the cell operated
normally for
about an hour with a
normal recombination burn and recovery of the
water being
consumed by the cell
in the splitting action.   Again
the cell
temperature and current mirrored the first
run.
Again the cell contained the same amount of
sludge
residue.   This process
was repeated ten (10) times
with exactly the same results.
All of
the sludge was carefully dried and weighed on an
electronic
scale with a five
decimal
resolution.
The cell plates and all hardware were
weighed to
determine any loss of
mass that may contribute to the mass gain observed
in the
sludge.  Five hundred
(500) ml of the original
electrolyte solution used in the cell was vacuum
distilled to
determine the
exact mass of colloidal minerals
contained.
When all factors were considered we came
out with a
mass gain of  48 gm
which cannot be explained by
conventional
electrolysis.

    After talking
to Dr.
Robert Bass and Hal
Fox I learned of a patent that has been filed on
the
transmutation of elements
in the cold fusion cell which is the process that
Dr. John
Bockris has been so
active in.   Both Dr.
Bass and Hal Fox
stated that what I was observing is not the same
as the
transmutation observed
in the cold fusion cell since I have a overall
mass gain and
not a lateral
movement of elements in the periodic table toward
lighter
elements with a
resulting heat release.  This
unusual
cell operation has caused quite a reaction in the
scientific
community.  At this
time I have built a complete new cell
with every possible factor which could possibly
explain the
mass gain
considered and documented.  The
ten (10)
consecutive runs on the new cell will be completed
soon and a
report will be
forthcoming.   What is
interesting about
this phenomenon is that when an eleventh run was
made with the
original
electrolyte exactly the same amount of residue was
recovered
as in the previous
ten
runs.


Since
the same electrolyte is reused each time with only
distilled
water being added
to replace the volume lost by the removal of the
solids and
the water recovered
by the recombination burn we are hard pressed to
explain the
observed
phenomenon.     The
electrolyte appears
stronger in mineral concentration and shows no
sign of

depletion.

   After conferring
with
Joe Tyls we arrived at
the conclusion that the 77 colloidal minerals
contained in the
electrolyte
provide the atomic templates needed for the
monatomic hydrogen
(father of all
the elements) to replicate selected elements in
this exotic
mixture.  If you
subscribe to the theories of the late
Walter Russell and his explanation of the octave
based
periodic table with
monatonic hydrogen being what he describes as
hydrons
(precursor to hydrogen)
then it is possible for the replication of
elements directly
from energy input
alone.  This is how all
matter was
created in the beginning as described by
Schappeller in “The
Physics of the
Primary State of Matter”.    I
will keep
all informed as to our progress and findings in
this very
intriguing venture.

Norman
Wootan
P.O.
Box 141049
Dallas,
TX 75214
(214)
360-0865


CC:  Gene Mallove,
Infinite
Energy
CC:  Dr. John
Bockris, Texas
A/M






On 10/28/2018 1:01 AM,
Jakob Wall
wall_jakob@...<mailto:wall_jakob@...>
[EVGRAY] wrote:







Thanks Norman,



BTW, what is the most effective water split
device that
you ever put you hands on?

As HHO researcher for dekades you should be
able to point
us directly to the most effective known!

Please be specific about reconstruction of the
same, since
we are in public domain it will become public
knowledge
and public good. I assume you intend nothing
else,rigth ?


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On Sat, 10/27/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@...<mailto:nwootan@...>
[EVGRAY]
<[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>
wrote:



Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's
Magnetic
Battery [3 Attachments]

To: "Bert Pool" <BertPool512@...><mailto:BertPool512@...>,
"Bob
Paddock" <bob.paddock@...><mailto:bob.paddock@...>,
"joel mcclain"
<joel_76670@...><mailto:joel_76670@...>,
"Jon Gentry"
<jongen422@...><mailto:jongen422@...>,
"Lane Wootan"
<lanewootan@...><mailto:lanewootan@...>,
"Mbking42"
<mbking42@...><mailto:mbking42@...>,
"Toby Grotz"
<wireless2@...><mailto:wireless2@...>,
"Phil Rembold"
<prembold@...><mailto:prembold@...>,
"Angel Alvarez"
<angel@...><mailto:angel@...>,
"Fredric Fletcher"
<ffletcher@...><mailto:ffletcher@...>,
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

To understand the unwinding of a thread
leading

to Magnetic

Generating Hydrogen and this Magnetic Battery,
we have

to dust off

our  9th grade Chemistry Books!

http://www.rexresearch.com/ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm

I guess Dr.

Ehrenhaft was the first to propose a Magnetic
Current.

(Jon

Gentry, Your liquid metal vortex helix).

https://revolution-green.com/can-electrolysis-powered-magnets/

Ah! Ha!  more on Magnetic Currents!!!

https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446.html

https://www.labmanager.com/white-papers-and-application-notes/2010/05/resistivity-conductivity-measurement-of-purified-water#.W9So9uJRc2w

https://www.askiitians.com/forums/Physical-Chemistry/19/19074/electro-che

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpotential

https://www.quora.com/Why-is-oxygen-molecule-paramagnetic-although-it-does-not-contain-any-unpaired-electron

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251580541_The_effect_of_magnetic_force_on_hydrogen_production_efficiency_in_water_electrolysis

http://www.physicscentral.com/experiment/physicsathome/electricwhirlpool.cfm

http://www.linux-host.org/energy/bmagpump.htm

Now Jon Gentry you have your liquid metal pump
so

that you can

make the helix tube Vortex!
Ferricpetacarbonyl or

micro fine neo

powder to provide the liquid metal for pump

circuit.

Lots of reading here!     Please think
about the

ramifications of

a Magnetic Current as proposed by Dr.
Ehrenhaft!























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The reason for this is to show you an intro if you will! In the nuclear medicine factor.

I have played with para hydrogen values with distilled and have great results in cellular repair.

Combined with essential oils and salt elderly people with https://www.nof.org/patients/what-is-osteoporosis/

Although yours is an injury , the results may be the same on the outcome.

I remember a few years back you posted your magnetically charged water devises.

Perhaps try it with distilled for a longer time then take with medications.

Several people have parked their walkers and or wheel chairs.

The results have been in the time zone of several months, mostly three to four.


Here is a blurp on parahydrogen


https://pure.mpg.de/rest/items/item_1423083/component/file_1423082/content


I have  been treating my cat for several years now ! lol

She was 17 years when I started as she had signs of physical failure as well as urinating  and stoolingwith no control.

She is now 26 and can still manage to jump up on the sofa and has control .

We all take the water as well as many people do. It gives the blood flow separation with movement holding a sustaining  charge.

________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
Sent: November 10, 2018 12:34 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery [2 Attachments]



No!� Bart, never got into that exotic element stuff!� Just followed those that were!

On 11/10/2018 10:42 AM, bart woodard [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
�

Hey Norm , your life's experiences have been fruitful!! Congrats!!

Have you ever played with table top combinations� such as thorium and fluoride or the molten salt combo?

On a hobbyist� basis approach?

Rossi likes to inject nickel/mag� powder so as I see to maintain his 1k output!.

________________________________
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Sent: November 9, 2018 3:12 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery [2 Attachments]
�
�

Mick! To answer the rest of your questions:� In that ARC process you have to use carbon rods to yield the carbon monoxide & hydrogen.� (carbon source) (arc is heat source).

Holy Water was interesting part of the Elemental Replication experiment. See:�

Elemental Replication ?

�

����� Around mid September I put together an electrolysis cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold Fusion Cell with the goal of exploring the possibilities of making what is termed �Pristine Water�.�� This water which will be used by Homeopaths will have had all memory or information removed.� This is accomplished by recombining monatomic hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated in a properly designed cell.� This is the ultimate in purity since this is water with conditions at the time of original creation.� �Wholy Water�is a term coined by my dear friend and fellow researcher Joe Tyls of Vancouver, BC.�� After several weeks of successful operation producing water that had all the earmarks of a true �pristine water� a fellow researcher suggested using an alternate electrolyte.�� A solution was selected that contained 77 colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the easiest assimilated into the body.�� With the electrolyte changed the cell was put back into operation as before with a nice recombination burn and production of the sought after �pristine water�.���


The water produced in the recombination burn of the H-H-O was collected from a silica glass condenser into a silica glass beaker for sampling.� When you flipped several CCs of the water into your mouth and tried to swallow, there was nothing there.� Hmmmm!� We immediately tested the viscosity and surface tension of the water and found it to be far below human blood which means that the water diffused directly into the capillaries around the tongue therefore nothing there to swallow.� The two Doctor who were there were amazed. � To prove the theory as to information carried by water, we collected a sample of several CCs into a plastic lab cup instead of the silica glass beaker. When you flipped the several CCs into your mouth you had to immediately spit it out for it was pure taste of plastic. This water picks up signature of anything it comes into contact with.� That is why the Homeopathic Doctors wanted it for making their tinctures.��� (signature of a healing agent). ��� We had all the necessary instruments to evaluate the Pristine water. See: � https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemorheology

Hemorheology - Wikipedia<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemorheology>
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Blood viscosity is a measure of the resistance of blood to flow. It can also be described as the thickness and stickiness of blood. This biophysical property makes it a critical determinant of friction against the vessel walls, the rate of venous return, the work required for the heart to pump blood, and how much oxygen is transported to tissues and organs.


�� http://www.dynalenelabs.com/testing-services/thermal-testing/viscosity-rheology/?gclid=CjwKCAiA_ZTfBRBjEiwAN6YG4SdHu5bWZ9yHLBM9VNQ0TLl4tB1hOqMvR_dOEHNbGX6k_kDHHtb5xhoCgIgQAvD_BwE �������� https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tensiometer

� https://hydramotion.com/en/technical/units-of-viscosity

I made an offer to the Doctors present that a small unit for production of a liter/day of Pristine Water via complete unit built of quartz glass could be had for $5,000. Apparently they were not that enthused as we thought!� Oh! Well!

I built numerous Pyramids of all sizes and the Orgone Accumulators and even the Cloud� Buster.�� The pyramid experiments were very interesting for real effects were shown.�� Never tested whether water would� break after treatment by either Orgone� or pyramid.��� The complete description of the 4 inch cell is in the Elemental replication Part Two. See:


Cell Description

�

��� The electrolysis cell is designed to hold one (1) liter of electrolyte and operate at approximately 150 watt power level for the production of monatomic hydrogen and� monatomic oxygen which is burned back to pure water and collected in a glass condenser.� Cell container is schedule 40 PVC pipe section 6 inches long with bottom cap cemented on.� The top of the cell has a 4 inch female thread adapter cemented on to provide access to the interior via a male threaded plug which has the gas outlet port and two electrolyte fill ports to provide for replacement of lost electrolyte on the fly for continuos operation.� Positive and negative terminals are provided for external connection of the power supply leads to the internal anode- cathode stack.

��� The cell plate stack consist of 8 anode plates and 8 cathode plates of the following sizes constructed from 316L stainless steel of 22 ga. thickness.

4 ea.� 3� X 3� plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 2.75�plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 2.5�plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 2.25� plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 2� plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 1.75� plates, and� 2 ea. 3� X 1.5� plates.� The plates are drilled and stacked with alternating anode and cathode plates spaced 1/8� apart which makes a cylindrical shaped array which fits nicely inside of the 4� ID PVC� cell container.� Electrical leads are braided copper of #10 size which are covered by shrink tubing to cover conductive surface as they pass through the electrolyte to the cell terminal bolts.� All electrical surfaces other than the anode and cathode plates are carefully covered with PVC cement to prevent deterioration from electrolyte contact.��� Please note that if allowed to come into contact with �charged� surfaces monatomic hydrogen and monatonic oxygen will imediately form into their usual occuring state as diatomic H2 and O2 molecules.

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On 11/8/2018 4:29 PM, Mick [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
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Hi Norm,

The catalysts are very interesting.� Iron Cobalt and Nickel all ferromagnetic but at different spins.

Correct me if I am wrong but based on reading your links a bingofuel type reactor using tungsten electrodes that hopefully would last much longer would likely produce OH rather than H and carbon monoxide, what do you think?

Also water is strange indeed in that a pyramid or orgone accumulator changes it and these simple changes could make for water that breaks up more easily.� I would love to know what results you demonstrated with the totally juvenile memory free water you put back together from the OH?�

Sorry to hear about your neck fracture, I have a similar issue and it is extremely painful and debilitating at times.

Mick

On 11/7/2018 4:15 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
�


On 11/7/2018 6:06 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:

Jakob Wall! & all other researchers on here need to read the Whole Story as to why I no longer have a research lab.� Jakob, I'm sorry I did not reveal to you the BEST in my opinion of methods of producing hydrogen gas for I felt it was a little too advanced and difficult for you to experiment with.� See: https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en .�� There is a very long story behind this US Patent and a hell of a lot of research. The quest for a very inexpensive method of splitting water has been the Holy Grail of� cheap energy.�� In addition to the research papers and links that I gave to you, here are some more to dwell on.

https://www.researchgate.net/post/At_what_temperature_water_will_decompose_to_Oxygen_and_Hydrogen

https://www.quora.com/Does-water-break-down-into-oxygen-and-hydrogen-at-high-temperatures-If-so-then-at-what-temperature

https://www.quora.com/How-much-water-can-you-split-into-hydrogen-and-oxygen-using-electrolysis-with-one-kilowatt-hour-of-electricity

http://www.redrok.com/hion96a1.htm

https://www.nature.com/articles/nplants201741�� Please read carefully about the play of Nickel in this approach!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_splitting

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water-gas_shift_reaction��� I owned 77 acres of land in Eureka Springs, AR where they still had the old water gas generator and gas storage facility.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decarboxylation

https://phys.org/news/2018-02-uncovers-mechanism-water-splitting-catalyst.html

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/new-catalyst-could-split-water-cheaply/

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/512996/a-cheaper-way-to-make-hydrogen-from-water/

"SUPER STEAM - A Tesla conference in Colorado surfaces new Super Steam Technology (SST). Leonard Dorsett and friends from Texas share strikingly similar views to Aquarian Agency Ltd. They have technology which produces steam instantly at up to 3,000F without a boiler and with 60% savings in fuel over traditional boilers. Nitrogen rich, it can put out gasoline fires and treat many waste problems. Of major importance to Aquarian, this nitrogen-rich steam will help to produce heat and Aquastone at considerable savings."

For further information on Aquarian Agency Ltd. they can be contacted at 38 Weir Rd, Wimbledon, London SW19 SUG, England or on Internet at <aquarian ocign.ape.org>. SUPER STEAM TECHNOLOGY PART 2[http://astrosa.com/n95/n059501.gif]

Leonard Dorsett (PO Box 365, Grapevine, TX 76092) demonstrated his Super Steam Technology at the 1994 International Tesla Symposium. SST is a system for producing steam at any temperature or pressure independently and instantly without the need for a conventional boiler. It can instantly produce steam of any temperature from hot water at 180F to super heated steam at over 3000F, while pressures can vary from 1PSI to 3000PSI with airflow volumes of 1CFM up to over 2000CFM. The system operates on propane, methane, petrol, kerosene, methanol, diesel, hydrogen or just about anything else that bums and converts virtually 100% of the fuel into usable energy. (Note: The person in the picture is Norman Wootan of MRA fame)

This all sounds great, but how does it work? The basis of the unit is a specially designed open throat chamber with controlled air, water and fuel interaction and a high voltage ignition resulting in a direct fire process establishing thermal zones. This creates a stoichiometric condition resulting in a full spectrum of steam product. Now comes the interesting part At the increased temperatures of steam, disassociation occurs. (Could this be a clue to running cars on water??) The hydrogen and oxygen reacts causing an exponential increase of energy resulting in super heated steam. A similar superheat process was addressed by Tesla in the October 12, 1911 publication of the "Engineering News Record".

Applications of the SST system include a much more economical way of producing electricity as no conventional boiler is needed. It will also be an ideal low cost method for heating and cooling homes and businesses. Small portable units can be developed for home use, such as steam cleaning, and insect and ant removal, without the dangers of insecticides. The system can also be used for low cost purification of polluted water or sewerage and can also convert salt water into drinking water both quickly and inexpensively. Other uses are in fire fighting applications, ice and snow removal from roads, etc. and sterilization and nurturing of soil for agriculture where contamination has occurred.

I had designed a method of making hydrogen from carbon & water vapor using the Tesla Atomic Bombardment method of high frequency inside of spherical inclosure like this experiments with the carbon button lamp globes.�� After working with Leonard Dorsett and his Super Steam Project, I chose to use the Water Shift Process instead.� A side note is needed here!� The Super Steam Process was a result of Professor Brown studying the method the German's used for torpedo propulsion from WWI.� Acetylene Gas and sea water produced an exothermic reaction generating Super Steam. Brown built several reactors and tested them in the Tulsa area to break (down hole) the parafin deposits to release crude oil.

The Chemical equation for the reaction in the US Patent: https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en

(6C + 12 H2O� = 6CO2 + 24H)

Hydrogen Reactor Development

�

Original concept design was a high voltage, high frequency resonant device that utilized carbon water reaction with the feedstock being in the form of graphite rod stock.� This unit was designed for vehicle application and had too many limitations to be used for mass hydrogen generation.� This type reactor is very effective at hydrogen production since it targets the water vapor molecule at MRI frequencies, which breaks the bonding, allowing the carbon to latch onto the oxygen atoms leaving the hydrogen free. This device was a closed system that used a simple CO2/hydrogen separation stage that enabled the hydrogen to be feed to an internal combustion engine.

�

To allow for a sustained high mass flow of hydrogen gas output, reactor design took on a radical change.� By incorporating the Ranque/Hilsch, Counter Flow Implosion Vortex Principle, and continuous high mass flow and gas separation were achieved in one stage of operation.� Feedstock for this type reactor could be any carbon-based material that could be put into a powder form.� Highest carbon content of the feedstock provides for the most efficient hydrogen production with the least undesirable output material.

�

Super high temperature operating regime was chosen to be above 2500 C for the purpose of producing atomic hydrogen in the process.� The original reactor operated at temperatures that easily gasified basic carbon into a plasma state (>10,000 F) more easily allowing the production of hydrogen from the stoichiometric feed stock ratios.


[cid:[email protected]]

I sold one of my Patents (Sonodiffuser) and paid for my 52 acres of land and built a 5200 sq. Ft. lab the do the Prototype machining and Proof of Concept testing for GAZPROM, Moscow in 2005. A $1.2 million investment and they got the rights to the process and I got the beautiful Research Lab all paid in full. I was a self employed Contractor in Dallas working with HVAC, Electrical and Electronics Maintenance so had to commute 170 miles/day and only had the week ends for my time! Having to mow grass and maintane the 52 acres took all my time and when I suffered a neck fracture in 2012, had to retire. Liquidated the entire facility and sold it off. Moved to Dallas then to South Louisiana where I now do a lot of relaxing and fishing!

Hector and ALL, I did my time in the Barrel so now I will just contribute to the dialog inorder to assist any research you may be doing within my area of experitise!���� BTW! I have been out to pasture for a long time now, so no BULL offense!� As Hector knows, "It fits"! Lol



[cid:[email protected]]

Yes! Hector, I will wear my Border Patrol Hat when you come visit from PR!� Lol




On 11/6/2018 8:52 PM, [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
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By the way ... i can hit mega millions or the power ball� . i never will not have a lab i can work in,� that is worst than death , you have no idea of the technology that had being lost by the greedy fucking bastards fucking my life , they will loose all they have� "soon" because it had being engineered that way by accumulative bad karma, i have another lab they will never reach or be able to intercept or destroy and that will decide their fate ..... they will be fucked hard !



(H)� �

---In [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>, <mkjekyll@...><mailto:mkjekyll@...> wrote :


Cmon Hector,

Bad taste!

The man had a more serious lab than anyone else here and his work speaks for itself.� Maybe he has gained the fortune he desired through R&D and now shitting in tall cotton or gone fishing reaping the rewards of retirement. Notwithstanding is still kind enough to help point us in the right directions around here.

"Funny�I can look back on a life of achievement, on challenges met, competitors bested, obstacles overcome. I�ve accomplished more than most men, and without the use of my legs. What?What makes a man, Mr. Lebowski?"

On 11/6/2018 8:04 AM, arkresearch@...<mailto:arkresearch@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
�

Dar n ! a Scientist inventor with no lab is like a breeding bull with no balls !

[Balls Cow                                                     GIF - Balls                                                     Cow                                                       WingDangDoodle GIFs]


---In [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>, <nwootan@...><mailto:nwootan@...> wrote :


Jacob! You asked me a question and I gave you my opinion!� I'm totally retired at 80 years old and have no lab to experiment in!� Your quote; I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. '' Slow down boy, we get paid for llooking for solutions, not to find them!''�� That certainly does not apply to me for I have shared all with the folks on this site.� I find you statement very interesting:� Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours with usual amount of gas looks to me extremely inefficient.�� ??????������� Care to share where you saw the power of a permanent magnet being used up!�� We all here on this site share what ever knowledge we have on the various subjects not seeking any monetary gain in any way! That is my approach!�� I just contribute to the dialog when I run across something interesting and think it will assist you guys!�� Norm

On 11/3/2018 11:32 PM, Jakob Wall wall_jakob@...<mailto:wall_jakob@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
�

Thanks Norman,
But i actually asced for ''most efficient way'' to split water known to you!
I realize there are a lot of different technigues to do just that.
And yes i realize you could give me a rather complex answer. But instead i hope for a
rather easy and reproductive answer since i am looking forward to solve my enerrgy
problems i just can not live with the momentary (sad and very stupid energy situation)
I am still not giving up becouse of a couple mistakes and misunderstandings.
If i would be a car dealer and you would ask me for a most efficient car available on the market
i would for sure not recommend a Prius, since there are a lot of cars with better fuel economie
even without being a hybrid and without additional cost like batterys,e-motors and a bunch added ECU's

Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours with usual amount of gas looks to me extremely
inefficient.
Also very expensive HHO-Garage products with output of 1,6 ltr/min.
Come on, 6 rusty nails and a old car batery does this job, no need to spend 1600 bucks on it.
I honestly expected solide advise or a honest NO way boy, i just talking around.

I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. '' Slow down boy, we get paid for llooking for
solutions, not to find them!'' That shoked me deeply and even if i get 150 years old, i will not forget it.
Thats true treason on mankind and deciving the people. I really hope nobody on this forum only care
about what he/she will be doing tomorrow.

Jakob

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On Sun, 10/28/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@...<mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]> wrote:

Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery
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Received: Sunday, October 28, 2018, 9:44 AM


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Jacob!� That would be a rather complex answer
but here is your
starting point!
https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct-thermomagnetic-splitting-of-water-.html���
After having been heavily involved in the COLD FUSION
Research
back in the 70s and 80s I quickly settled o0n the best
catalyst in
electrolytic cells which is pure nickel. I still have
the cell
used in the Elemental Replication experiments.


http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm����
The hidden
part of this research is the use of a nickel component
in the
combustion chamber. Bosch developed 90,000V ignition
systems to
enable water injection in gas engine which high
lighted the
Graneau HV decomposition of water via HVDC
discharge!
My magnetic Battery when run as an electrolytic cell
to produce
hydrogen does produce a huge amount of hydrogen gas as
shown by
the Dr. Ehrenhaft document.� I would tell you to
pursue the super
high Tesla magnetic flux and nickel electrodes in an
electrolytic
cell.� The major obstacle to be overcome is the rapid
collection
of ions from solution by the 1.3 Tesla flux across a
.020"
mechanical gap which quickly takes the cell into a
super-conduction mode which takes out the driving DC
power supply.
You can flush the magnetic gaps with distilled water
and the gaps
will show in the meg-ohm range then go to zero ohms
after a short
period of running, the gathered ions totally short
cell. During
the brief runs there is a huge amount of hydrogen gas
produced�
which I burned off as it was generated.� Much can be
said about
driving the cell with high frequencies as the Myers
research
showed.� Our friend up in Canada at George Wiseman,
Eagle Research
is running well ahead of the crowd on the production
of H-H-O.
Just for giggles!


16 October
1996
To: Hal
Fox,� Fusion Facts
Elemental
Replication ?
�
����� Around mid
September
I put together an
electrolysis cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold
Fusion Cell
with the goal of
exploring the possibilities of making what is
termed �Pristine
Water�.�� This water
which will be used by Homeopaths
will have had all memory or information
removed.� This is accomplished by
recombining monatomic
hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated in a
properly
designed cell.� This is
the ultimate in purity since this is
water with conditions at the time of original
creation.� �Holly Water�is a term
coined by my dear
friend and fellow researcher Joe Tyls of
Vancouver, BC.�� After several weeks of
successful operation
producing water that had all the earmarks of a
true �pristine
water� a fellow
researcher suggested using an alternate
electrolyte.�� A solution was selected
that contained 77
colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the
easiest
assimilated into the
body.�� With the
electrolyte changed the
cell was put back into operation as before with a
nice
recombination burn and
production of the sought after �pristine
water�.�������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������
�������
��� After about an
hour of
operation the cell
went absolutely �nuts� with the temperature
rapidly climbing
to boiling point
and the current out of sight.�
When the
cell was opened we found a deep red sludge deposit
which
shorted the cell
plates.�� Our first
thought was that the
electrolytic action precipitated out the colloidal
minerals
which caused the
deposit found.�� The�
electrolyte was allowed
to settle out the
precipitate.�� After�
decanting off,� the clear electrolyte
was
returned to the
cell for another run. Again the cell operated
normally for
about an hour with a
normal recombination burn and recovery of the
water being
consumed by the cell
in the splitting action.�� Again
the cell
temperature and current mirrored the first
run.�
Again the cell contained the same amount of
sludge
residue.�� This process
was repeated ten (10) times
with exactly the same results.��
All of
the sludge was carefully dried and weighed on an
electronic
scale with a five
decimal
resolution.���������������������
The cell plates and all hardware were
weighed to
determine any loss of
mass that may contribute to the mass gain observed
in the
sludge.� Five hundred
(500) ml of the original
electrolyte solution used in the cell was vacuum
distilled to
determine the
exact mass of colloidal minerals
contained.�
When all factors were considered we came
out with a
mass gain of� 48 gm
which cannot be explained by
conventional
electrolysis.����������������������

��� After talking
to Dr.
Robert Bass and Hal
Fox I learned of a patent that has been filed on
the
transmutation of elements
in the cold fusion cell which is the process that
Dr. John
Bockris has been so
active in.�� Both Dr.
Bass and Hal Fox
stated that what I was observing is not the same
as the
transmutation observed
in the cold fusion cell since I have a overall
mass gain and
not a lateral
movement of elements in the periodic table toward
lighter
elements with a
resulting heat release.� This
unusual
cell operation has caused quite a reaction in the
scientific
community. �At this
time I have built a complete new cell
with every possible factor which could possibly
explain the
mass gain
considered and documented.� The
ten (10)
consecutive runs on the new cell will be completed
soon and a
report will be
forthcoming.�� What is
interesting about
this phenomenon is that when an eleventh run was
made with the
original
electrolyte exactly the same amount of residue was
recovered
as in the previous
ten
runs.�����������������������������������������������������������������������

�
Since
the same electrolyte is reused each time with only
distilled
water being added
to replace the volume lost by the removal of the
solids and
the water recovered
by the recombination burn we are hard pressed to
explain the
observed
phenomenon.���� The
electrolyte appears
stronger in mineral concentration and shows no
sign of

depletion.��������������������������������

�� After conferring
with
Joe Tyls we arrived at
the conclusion that the 77 colloidal minerals
contained in the
electrolyte
provide the atomic templates needed for the
monatomic hydrogen
(father of all
the elements) to replicate selected elements in
this exotic
mixture.� If you
subscribe to the theories of the late
Walter Russell and his explanation of the octave
based
periodic table with
monatonic hydrogen being what he describes as
hydrons
(precursor to hydrogen)
then it is possible for the replication of
elements directly
from energy input
alone.� This is how all
matter was
created in the beginning as described by
Schappeller in �The
Physics of the
Primary State of Matter�.��� I
will keep
all informed as to our progress and findings in
this very
intriguing venture.
�
Norman
Wootan
P.O.
Box 141049
Dallas,
TX 75214
(214)
360-0865
�
�
CC:� Gene Mallove,
Infinite
Energy
CC:� Dr. John
Bockris, Texas
A/M






On 10/28/2018 1:01 AM,
Jakob Wall
wall_jakob@...<mailto:wall_jakob@...>
[EVGRAY] wrote:




�


Thanks Norman,



BTW, what is the most effective water split
device that
you ever put you hands on?

As HHO researcher for dekades you should be
able to point
us directly to the most effective known!

Please be specific about reconstruction of the
same, since
we are in public domain it will become public
knowledge
and public good. I assume you intend nothing
else,rigth ?


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On Sat, 10/27/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@...<mailto:nwootan@...>
[EVGRAY]
<[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>
wrote:



Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's
Magnetic
Battery [3 Attachments]

To: "Bert Pool" <BertPool512@...><mailto:BertPool512@...>,
"Bob
Paddock" <bob.paddock@...><mailto:bob.paddock@...>,
"joel mcclain"
<joel_76670@...><mailto:joel_76670@...>,
"Jon Gentry"
<jongen422@...><mailto:jongen422@...>,
"Lane Wootan"
<lanewootan@...><mailto:lanewootan@...>,
"Mbking42"
<mbking42@...><mailto:mbking42@...>,
"Toby Grotz"
<wireless2@...><mailto:wireless2@...>,
"Phil Rembold"
<prembold@...><mailto:prembold@...>,
"Angel Alvarez"
<angel@...><mailto:angel@...>,
"Fredric Fletcher"
<ffletcher@...><mailto:ffletcher@...>,
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

To understand the unwinding of a thread
leading

to Magnetic

Generating Hydrogen and this Magnetic Battery,
we have

to dust off

our� 9th grade Chemistry Books!

http://www.rexresearch.com/ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm�����

I guess Dr.

Ehrenhaft was the first to propose a Magnetic
Current.

(Jon

Gentry, Your liquid metal vortex helix).

https://revolution-green.com/can-electrolysis-powered-magnets/������

Ah! Ha!� more on Magnetic Currents!!!

https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446.html

https://www.labmanager.com/white-papers-and-application-notes/2010/05/resistivity-conductivity-measurement-of-purified-water#.W9So9uJRc2w

https://www.askiitians.com/forums/Physical-Chemistry/19/19074/electro-che

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpotential

https://www.quora.com/Why-is-oxygen-molecule-paramagnetic-although-it-does-not-contain-any-unpaired-electron

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251580541_The_effect_of_magnetic_force_on_hydrogen_production_efficiency_in_water_electrolysis

http://www.physicscentral.com/experiment/physicsathome/electricwhirlpool.cfm

http://www.linux-host.org/energy/bmagpump.htm

Now Jon Gentry you have your liquid metal pump
so

that you can

make the helix tube Vortex!�
Ferricpetacarbonyl or

micro fine neo

powder to provide the liquid metal for pump

circuit.

Lots of reading here!���� Please think
about the

ramifications of

a Magnetic Current as proposed by Dr.
Ehrenhaft!























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To ad to this I have spent six months in India in the recent past and can tell you that tumeric  and  the general spices

helps reduce inflammations. This of course is not new.


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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of bart woodard [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
Sent: November 10, 2018 1:17 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery



The reason for this is to show you an intro if you will! In the nuclear medicine factor.

I have played with para hydrogen values with distilled and have great results in cellular repair.

Combined with essential oils and salt elderly people with https://www.nof.org/patients/what-is-osteoporosis/

Although yours is an injury , the results may be the same on the outcome.

I remember a few years back you posted your magnetically charged water devises.

Perhaps try it with distilled for a longer time then take with medications.

Several people have parked their walkers and or wheel chairs.

The results have been in the time zone of several months, mostly three to four.


Here is a blurp on parahydrogen


https://pure.mpg.de/rest/items/item_1423083/component/file_1423082/content


I have  been treating my cat for several years now ! lol

She was 17 years when I started as she had signs of physical failure as well as urinating  and stoolingwith no control.

She is now 26 and can still manage to jump up on the sofa and has control .

We all take the water as well as many people do. It gives the blood flow separation with movement holding a sustaining  charge.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
Sent: November 10, 2018 12:34 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery [2 Attachments]



No!� Bart, never got into that exotic element stuff!� Just followed those that were!

On 11/10/2018 10:42 AM, bart woodard [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
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Hey Norm , your life's experiences have been fruitful!! Congrats!!

Have you ever played with table top combinations� such as thorium and fluoride or the molten salt combo?

On a hobbyist� basis approach?

Rossi likes to inject nickel/mag� powder so as I see to maintain his 1k output!.

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From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]> on behalf of Norman Wootan [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: November 9, 2018 3:12 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery [2 Attachments]
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Mick! To answer the rest of your questions:� In that ARC process you have to use carbon rods to yield the carbon monoxide & hydrogen.� (carbon source) (arc is heat source).

Holy Water was interesting part of the Elemental Replication experiment. See:�

Elemental Replication ?

�

����� Around mid September I put together an electrolysis cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold Fusion Cell with the goal of exploring the possibilities of making what is termed �Pristine Water�.�� This water which will be used by Homeopaths will have had all memory or information removed.� This is accomplished by recombining monatomic hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated in a properly designed cell.� This is the ultimate in purity since this is water with conditions at the time of original creation.� �Wholy Water�is a term coined by my dear friend and fellow researcher Joe Tyls of Vancouver, BC.�� After several weeks of successful operation producing water that had all the earmarks of a true �pristine water� a fellow researcher suggested using an alternate electrolyte.�� A solution was selected that contained 77 colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the easiest assimilated into the body.�� With the electrolyte changed the cell was put back into operation as before with a nice recombination burn and production of the sought after �pristine water�.���


The water produced in the recombination burn of the H-H-O was collected from a silica glass condenser into a silica glass beaker for sampling.� When you flipped several CCs of the water into your mouth and tried to swallow, there was nothing there.� Hmmmm!� We immediately tested the viscosity and surface tension of the water and found it to be far below human blood which means that the water diffused directly into the capillaries around the tongue therefore nothing there to swallow.� The two Doctor who were there were amazed. � To prove the theory as to information carried by water, we collected a sample of several CCs into a plastic lab cup instead of the silica glass beaker. When you flipped the several CCs into your mouth you had to immediately spit it out for it was pure taste of plastic. This water picks up signature of anything it comes into contact with.� That is why the Homeopathic Doctors wanted it for making their tinctures.��� (signature of a healing agent). ��� We had all the necessary instruments to evaluate the Pristine water. See: � https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemorheology

Hemorheology - Wikipedia<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemorheology>
en.m.wikipedia.org
Blood viscosity is a measure of the resistance of blood to flow. It can also be described as the thickness and stickiness of blood. This biophysical property makes it a critical determinant of friction against the vessel walls, the rate of venous return, the work required for the heart to pump blood, and how much oxygen is transported to tissues and organs.


�� http://www.dynalenelabs.com/testing-services/thermal-testing/viscosity-rheology/?gclid=CjwKCAiA_ZTfBRBjEiwAN6YG4SdHu5bWZ9yHLBM9VNQ0TLl4tB1hOqMvR_dOEHNbGX6k_kDHHtb5xhoCgIgQAvD_BwE �������� https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tensiometer

� https://hydramotion.com/en/technical/units-of-viscosity

I made an offer to the Doctors present that a small unit for production of a liter/day of Pristine Water via complete unit built of quartz glass could be had for $5,000. Apparently they were not that enthused as we thought!� Oh! Well!

I built numerous Pyramids of all sizes and the Orgone Accumulators and even the Cloud� Buster.�� The pyramid experiments were very interesting for real effects were shown.�� Never tested whether water would� break after treatment by either Orgone� or pyramid.��� The complete description of the 4 inch cell is in the Elemental replication Part Two. See:


Cell Description

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��� The electrolysis cell is designed to hold one (1) liter of electrolyte and operate at approximately 150 watt power level for the production of monatomic hydrogen and� monatomic oxygen which is burned back to pure water and collected in a glass condenser.� Cell container is schedule 40 PVC pipe section 6 inches long with bottom cap cemented on.� The top of the cell has a 4 inch female thread adapter cemented on to provide access to the interior via a male threaded plug which has the gas outlet port and two electrolyte fill ports to provide for replacement of lost electrolyte on the fly for continuos operation.� Positive and negative terminals are provided for external connection of the power supply leads to the internal anode- cathode stack.

��� The cell plate stack consist of 8 anode plates and 8 cathode plates of the following sizes constructed from 316L stainless steel of 22 ga. thickness.

4 ea.� 3� X 3� plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 2.75�plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 2.5�plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 2.25� plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 2� plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 1.75� plates, and� 2 ea. 3� X 1.5� plates.� The plates are drilled and stacked with alternating anode and cathode plates spaced 1/8� apart which makes a cylindrical shaped array which fits nicely inside of the 4� ID PVC� cell container.� Electrical leads are braided copper of #10 size which are covered by shrink tubing to cover conductive surface as they pass through the electrolyte to the cell terminal bolts.� All electrical surfaces other than the anode and cathode plates are carefully covered with PVC cement to prevent deterioration from electrolyte contact.��� Please note that if allowed to come into contact with �charged� surfaces monatomic hydrogen and monatonic oxygen will imediately form into their usual occuring state as diatomic H2 and O2 molecules.

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On 11/8/2018 4:29 PM, Mick [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
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Hi Norm,

The catalysts are very interesting.� Iron Cobalt and Nickel all ferromagnetic but at different spins.

Correct me if I am wrong but based on reading your links a bingofuel type reactor using tungsten electrodes that hopefully would last much longer would likely produce OH rather than H and carbon monoxide, what do you think?

Also water is strange indeed in that a pyramid or orgone accumulator changes it and these simple changes could make for water that breaks up more easily.� I would love to know what results you demonstrated with the totally juvenile memory free water you put back together from the OH?�

Sorry to hear about your neck fracture, I have a similar issue and it is extremely painful and debilitating at times.

Mick

On 11/7/2018 4:15 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
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On 11/7/2018 6:06 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:

Jakob Wall! & all other researchers on here need to read the Whole Story as to why I no longer have a research lab.� Jakob, I'm sorry I did not reveal to you the BEST in my opinion of methods of producing hydrogen gas for I felt it was a little too advanced and difficult for you to experiment with.� See: https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en .�� There is a very long story behind this US Patent and a hell of a lot of research. The quest for a very inexpensive method of splitting water has been the Holy Grail of� cheap energy.�� In addition to the research papers and links that I gave to you, here are some more to dwell on.

https://www.researchgate.net/post/At_what_temperature_water_will_decompose_to_Oxygen_and_Hydrogen<https://www..researchgate.net/post/At_what_temperature_water_will_decompose_to_Oxygen_and_Hydrogen>

https://www.quora.com/Does-water-break-down-into-oxygen-and-hydrogen-at-high-temperatures-If-so-then-at-what-temperature<https://www..quora.com/Does-water-break-down-into-oxygen-and-hydrogen-at-high-temperatures-If-so-then-at-what-temperature>

https://www.quora.com/How-much-water-can-you-split-into-hydrogen-and-oxygen-using-electrolysis-with-one-kilowatt-hour-of-electricity<https://www..quora.com/How-much-water-can-you-split-into-hydrogen-and-oxygen-using-electrolysis-with-one-kilowatt-hour-of-electricity>

http://www.redrok.com/hion96a1.htm

https://www.nature.com/articles/nplants201741<https://www..nature.com/articles/nplants201741>�� Please read carefully about the play of Nickel in this approach!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_splitting

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water-gas_shift_reaction��� I owned 77 acres of land in Eureka Springs, AR where they still had the old water gas generator and gas storage facility.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decarboxylation

https://phys.org/news/2018-02-uncovers-mechanism-water-splitting-catalyst.html

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/new-catalyst-could-split-water-cheaply/<https://www..scientificamerican.com/article/new-catalyst-could-split-water-cheaply/>

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/512996/a-cheaper-way-to-make-hydrogen-from-water/<https://www..technologyreview.com/s/512996/a-cheaper-way-to-make-hydrogen-from-water/>

"SUPER STEAM - A Tesla conference in Colorado surfaces new Super Steam Technology (SST). Leonard Dorsett and friends from Texas share strikingly similar views to Aquarian Agency Ltd. They have technology which produces steam instantly at up to 3,000F without a boiler and with 60% savings in fuel over traditional boilers. Nitrogen rich, it can put out gasoline fires and treat many waste problems. Of major importance to Aquarian, this nitrogen-rich steam will help to produce heat and Aquastone at considerable savings."

For further information on Aquarian Agency Ltd. they can be contacted at 38 Weir Rd, Wimbledon, London SW19 SUG, England or on Internet at <aquarian ocign.ape.org>. SUPER STEAM TECHNOLOGY PART 2[http://astrosa.com/n95/n059501.gif]

Leonard Dorsett (PO Box 365, Grapevine, TX 76092) demonstrated his Super Steam Technology at the 1994 International Tesla Symposium. SST is a system for producing steam at any temperature or pressure independently and instantly without the need for a conventional boiler. It can instantly produce steam of any temperature from hot water at 180F to super heated steam at over 3000F, while pressures can vary from 1PSI to 3000PSI with airflow volumes of 1CFM up to over 2000CFM. The system operates on propane, methane, petrol, kerosene, methanol, diesel, hydrogen or just about anything else that bums and converts virtually 100% of the fuel into usable energy. (Note: The person in the picture is Norman Wootan of MRA fame)

This all sounds great, but how does it work? The basis of the unit is a specially designed open throat chamber with controlled air, water and fuel interaction and a high voltage ignition resulting in a direct fire process establishing thermal zones. This creates a stoichiometric condition resulting in a full spectrum of steam product. Now comes the interesting part At the increased temperatures of steam, disassociation occurs. (Could this be a clue to running cars on water??) The hydrogen and oxygen reacts causing an exponential increase of energy resulting in super heated steam. A similar superheat process was addressed by Tesla in the October 12, 1911 publication of the "Engineering News Record".

Applications of the SST system include a much more economical way of producing electricity as no conventional boiler is needed. It will also be an ideal low cost method for heating and cooling homes and businesses. Small portable units can be developed for home use, such as steam cleaning, and insect and ant removal, without the dangers of insecticides. The system can also be used for low cost purification of polluted water or sewerage and can also convert salt water into drinking water both quickly and inexpensively. Other uses are in fire fighting applications, ice and snow removal from roads, etc. and sterilization and nurturing of soil for agriculture where contamination has occurred.

I had designed a method of making hydrogen from carbon & water vapor using the Tesla Atomic Bombardment method of high frequency inside of spherical inclosure like this experiments with the carbon button lamp globes.�� After working with Leonard Dorsett and his Super Steam Project, I chose to use the Water Shift Process instead.� A side note is needed here!� The Super Steam Process was a result of Professor Brown studying the method the German's used for torpedo propulsion from WWI.� Acetylene Gas and sea water produced an exothermic reaction generating Super Steam. Brown built several reactors and tested them in the Tulsa area to break (down hole) the parafin deposits to release crude oil.

The Chemical equation for the reaction in the US Patent: https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en

(6C + 12 H2O� = 6CO2 + 24H)

Hydrogen Reactor Development

�

Original concept design was a high voltage, high frequency resonant device that utilized carbon water reaction with the feedstock being in the form of graphite rod stock.� This unit was designed for vehicle application and had too many limitations to be used for mass hydrogen generation.� This type reactor is very effective at hydrogen production since it targets the water vapor molecule at MRI frequencies, which breaks the bonding, allowing the carbon to latch onto the oxygen atoms leaving the hydrogen free. This device was a closed system that used a simple CO2/hydrogen separation stage that enabled the hydrogen to be feed to an internal combustion engine.

�

To allow for a sustained high mass flow of hydrogen gas output, reactor design took on a radical change.� By incorporating the Ranque/Hilsch, Counter Flow Implosion Vortex Principle, and continuous high mass flow and gas separation were achieved in one stage of operation.� Feedstock for this type reactor could be any carbon-based material that could be put into a powder form.� Highest carbon content of the feedstock provides for the most efficient hydrogen production with the least undesirable output material.

�

Super high temperature operating regime was chosen to be above 2500 C for the purpose of producing atomic hydrogen in the process.� The original reactor operated at temperatures that easily gasified basic carbon into a plasma state (>10,000 F) more easily allowing the production of hydrogen from the stoichiometric feed stock ratios.


[cid:[email protected]]

I sold one of my Patents (Sonodiffuser) and paid for my 52 acres of land and built a 5200 sq. Ft. lab the do the Prototype machining and Proof of Concept testing for GAZPROM, Moscow in 2005. A $1.2 million investment and they got the rights to the process and I got the beautiful Research Lab all paid in full. I was a self employed Contractor in Dallas working with HVAC, Electrical and Electronics Maintenance so had to commute 170 miles/day and only had the week ends for my time! Having to mow grass and maintane the 52 acres took all my time and when I suffered a neck fracture in 2012, had to retire. Liquidated the entire facility and sold it off. Moved to Dallas then to South Louisiana where I now do a lot of relaxing and fishing!

Hector and ALL, I did my time in the Barrel so now I will just contribute to the dialog inorder to assist any research you may be doing within my area of experitise!���� BTW! I have been out to pasture for a long time now, so no BULL offense!� As Hector knows, "It fits"! Lol



[cid:[email protected]]

Yes! Hector, I will wear my Border Patrol Hat when you come visit from PR!� Lol




On 11/6/2018 8:52 PM, [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
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By the way ... i can hit mega millions or the power ball� . i never will not have a lab i can work in,� that is worst than death , you have no idea of the technology that had being lost by the greedy fucking bastards fucking my life , they will loose all they have� "soon" because it had being engineered that way by accumulative bad karma, i have another lab they will never reach or be able to intercept or destroy and that will decide their fate ..... they will be fucked hard !



(H)� �

---In [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>, <mkjekyll@...><mailto:mkjekyll@...> wrote :


Cmon Hector,

Bad taste!

The man had a more serious lab than anyone else here and his work speaks for itself.� Maybe he has gained the fortune he desired through R&D and now shitting in tall cotton or gone fishing reaping the rewards of retirement. Notwithstanding is still kind enough to help point us in the right directions around here.

"Funny�I can look back on a life of achievement, on challenges met, competitors bested, obstacles overcome. I�ve accomplished more than most men, and without the use of my legs. What?What makes a man, Mr. Lebowski?"

On 11/6/2018 8:04 AM, arkresearch@...<mailto:arkresearch@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
�

Dar n ! a Scientist inventor with no lab is like a breeding bull with no balls !

[Balls Cow                                                     GIF - Balls                                                     Cow                                                       WingDangDoodle GIFs]


---In [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>, <nwootan@...><mailto:nwootan@...> wrote :


Jacob! You asked me a question and I gave you my opinion!� I'm totally retired at 80 years old and have no lab to experiment in!� Your quote; I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. '' Slow down boy, we get paid for llooking for solutions, not to find them!''�� That certainly does not apply to me for I have shared all with the folks on this site.� I find you statement very interesting:� Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours with usual amount of gas looks to me extremely inefficient.�� ??????������� Care to share where you saw the power of a permanent magnet being used up!�� We all here on this site share what ever knowledge we have on the various subjects not seeking any monetary gain in any way! That is my approach!�� I just contribute to the dialog when I run across something interesting and think it will assist you guys!�� Norm

On 11/3/2018 11:32 PM, Jakob Wall wall_jakob@...<mailto:wall_jakob@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
�

Thanks Norman,
But i actually asced for ''most efficient way'' to split water known to you!
I realize there are a lot of different technigues to do just that.
And yes i realize you could give me a rather complex answer. But instead i hope for a
rather easy and reproductive answer since i am looking forward to solve my enerrgy
problems i just can not live with the momentary (sad and very stupid energy situation)
I am still not giving up becouse of a couple mistakes and misunderstandings..
If i would be a car dealer and you would ask me for a most efficient car available on the market
i would for sure not recommend a Prius, since there are a lot of cars with better fuel economie
even without being a hybrid and without additional cost like batterys,e-motors and a bunch added ECU's

Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours with usual amount of gas looks to me extremely
inefficient.
Also very expensive HHO-Garage products with output of 1,6 ltr/min.
Come on, 6 rusty nails and a old car batery does this job, no need to spend 1600 bucks on it.
I honestly expected solide advise or a honest NO way boy, i just talking around.

I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. '' Slow down boy, we get paid for llooking for
solutions, not to find them!'' That shoked me deeply and even if i get 150 years old, i will not forget it.
Thats true treason on mankind and deciving the people. I really hope nobody on this forum only care
about what he/she will be doing tomorrow.

Jakob

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On Sun, 10/28/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@...<mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]> wrote:

Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>, "Bert Pool" <BertPool512@...><mailto:BertPool512@...>, "Bob Paddock" <bob.paddock@...><mailto:bob.paddock@...>, "joel mcclain" <joel_76670@...><mailto:joel_76670@...>, "Jon Gentry" <jongen422@...><mailto:jongen422@...>, "Mbking42" <mbking42@...><mailto:mbking42@...>, "Toby Grotz" <wireless2@...><mailto:wireless2@...>, "Phil Rembold" <prembold@...><mailto:prembold@...>, "Angel Alvarez" <angel@...><mailto:angel@...>, "Fredric Fletcher" <ffletcher@...><mailto:ffletcher@...>
Received: Sunday, October 28, 2018, 9:44 AM


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Jacob!� That would be a rather complex answer
but here is your
starting point!
https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct-thermomagnetic-splitting-of-water-.html���
After having been heavily involved in the COLD FUSION
Research
back in the 70s and 80s I quickly settled o0n the best
catalyst in
electrolytic cells which is pure nickel. I still have
the cell
used in the Elemental Replication experiments.


http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm����
The hidden
part of this research is the use of a nickel component
in the
combustion chamber. Bosch developed 90,000V ignition
systems to
enable water injection in gas engine which high
lighted the
Graneau HV decomposition of water via HVDC
discharge!
My magnetic Battery when run as an electrolytic cell
to produce
hydrogen does produce a huge amount of hydrogen gas as
shown by
the Dr. Ehrenhaft document.� I would tell you to
pursue the super
high Tesla magnetic flux and nickel electrodes in an
electrolytic
cell.� The major obstacle to be overcome is the rapid
collection
of ions from solution by the 1.3 Tesla flux across a
..020"
mechanical gap which quickly takes the cell into a
super-conduction mode which takes out the driving DC
power supply.
You can flush the magnetic gaps with distilled water
and the gaps
will show in the meg-ohm range then go to zero ohms
after a short
period of running, the gathered ions totally short
cell. During
the brief runs there is a huge amount of hydrogen gas
produced�
which I burned off as it was generated.� Much can be
said about
driving the cell with high frequencies as the Myers
research
showed.� Our friend up in Canada at George Wiseman,
Eagle Research
is running well ahead of the crowd on the production
of H-H-O.
Just for giggles!


16 October
1996
To: Hal
Fox,� Fusion Facts
Elemental
Replication ?
�
����� Around mid
September
I put together an
electrolysis cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold
Fusion Cell
with the goal of
exploring the possibilities of making what is
termed �Pristine
Water�.�� This water
which will be used by Homeopaths
will have had all memory or information
removed.� This is accomplished by
recombining monatomic
hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated in a
properly
designed cell.� This is
the ultimate in purity since this is
water with conditions at the time of original
creation.� �Holly Water�is a term
coined by my dear
friend and fellow researcher Joe Tyls of
Vancouver, BC.�� After several weeks of
successful operation
producing water that had all the earmarks of a
true �pristine
water� a fellow
researcher suggested using an alternate
electrolyte.�� A solution was selected
that contained 77
colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the
easiest
assimilated into the
body.�� With the
electrolyte changed the
cell was put back into operation as before with a
nice
recombination burn and
production of the sought after �pristine
water�.�������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������
�������
��� After about an
hour of
operation the cell
went absolutely �nuts� with the temperature
rapidly climbing
to boiling point
and the current out of sight.�
When the
cell was opened we found a deep red sludge deposit
which
shorted the cell
plates.�� Our first
thought was that the
electrolytic action precipitated out the colloidal
minerals
which caused the
deposit found.�� The�
electrolyte was allowed
to settle out the
precipitate.�� After�
decanting off,� the clear electrolyte
was
returned to the
cell for another run. Again the cell operated
normally for
about an hour with a
normal recombination burn and recovery of the
water being
consumed by the cell
in the splitting action.�� Again
the cell
temperature and current mirrored the first
run.�
Again the cell contained the same amount of
sludge
residue.�� This process
was repeated ten (10) times
with exactly the same results.��
All of
the sludge was carefully dried and weighed on an
electronic
scale with a five
decimal
resolution.���������������������
The cell plates and all hardware were
weighed to
determine any loss of
mass that may contribute to the mass gain observed
in the
sludge.� Five hundred
(500) ml of the original
electrolyte solution used in the cell was vacuum
distilled to
determine the
exact mass of colloidal minerals
contained.�
When all factors were considered we came
out with a
mass gain of� 48 gm
which cannot be explained by
conventional
electrolysis.����������������������

��� After talking
to Dr.
Robert Bass and Hal
Fox I learned of a patent that has been filed on
the
transmutation of elements
in the cold fusion cell which is the process that
Dr. John
Bockris has been so
active in.�� Both Dr.
Bass and Hal Fox
stated that what I was observing is not the same
as the
transmutation observed
in the cold fusion cell since I have a overall
mass gain and
not a lateral
movement of elements in the periodic table toward
lighter
elements with a
resulting heat release.� This
unusual
cell operation has caused quite a reaction in the
scientific
community. �At this
time I have built a complete new cell
with every possible factor which could possibly
explain the
mass gain
considered and documented.� The
ten (10)
consecutive runs on the new cell will be completed
soon and a
report will be
forthcoming.�� What is
interesting about
this phenomenon is that when an eleventh run was
made with the
original
electrolyte exactly the same amount of residue was
recovered
as in the previous
ten
runs.�����������������������������������������������������������������������

�
Since
the same electrolyte is reused each time with only
distilled
water being added
to replace the volume lost by the removal of the
solids and
the water recovered
by the recombination burn we are hard pressed to
explain the
observed
phenomenon.���� The
electrolyte appears
stronger in mineral concentration and shows no
sign of

depletion.��������������������������������

�� After conferring
with
Joe Tyls we arrived at
the conclusion that the 77 colloidal minerals
contained in the
electrolyte
provide the atomic templates needed for the
monatomic hydrogen
(father of all
the elements) to replicate selected elements in
this exotic
mixture.� If you
subscribe to the theories of the late
Walter Russell and his explanation of the octave
based
periodic table with
monatonic hydrogen being what he describes as
hydrons
(precursor to hydrogen)
then it is possible for the replication of
elements directly
from energy input
alone.� This is how all
matter was
created in the beginning as described by
Schappeller in �The
Physics of the
Primary State of Matter�.��� I
will keep
all informed as to our progress and findings in
this very
intriguing venture.
�
Norman
Wootan
P.O.
Box 141049
Dallas,
TX 75214
(214)
360-0865
�
�
CC:� Gene Mallove,
Infinite
Energy
CC:� Dr. John
Bockris, Texas
A/M






On 10/28/2018 1:01 AM,
Jakob Wall
wall_jakob@...<mailto:wall_jakob@...>
[EVGRAY] wrote:




�


Thanks Norman,



BTW, what is the most effective water split
device that
you ever put you hands on?

As HHO researcher for dekades you should be
able to point
us directly to the most effective known!

Please be specific about reconstruction of the
same, since
we are in public domain it will become public
knowledge
and public good. I assume you intend nothing
else,rigth ?


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On Sat, 10/27/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@...<mailto:nwootan@...>
[EVGRAY]
<[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>
wrote:



Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's
Magnetic
Battery [3 Attachments]

To: "Bert Pool" <BertPool512@...><mailto:BertPool512@...>,
"Bob
Paddock" <bob.paddock@...><mailto:bob.paddock@...>,
"joel mcclain"
<joel_76670@...><mailto:joel_76670@...>,
"Jon Gentry"
<jongen422@...><mailto:jongen422@...>,
"Lane Wootan"
<lanewootan@...><mailto:lanewootan@...>,
"Mbking42"
<mbking42@...><mailto:mbking42@....>,
"Toby Grotz"
<wireless2@...><mailto:wireless2@...>,
"Phil Rembold"
<prembold@...><mailto:prembold@....>,
"Angel Alvarez"
<angel@...><mailto:angel@...>,
"Fredric Fletcher"
<ffletcher@...><mailto:ffletcher@...>,
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

To understand the unwinding of a thread
leading

to Magnetic

Generating Hydrogen and this Magnetic Battery,
we have

to dust off

our� 9th grade Chemistry Books!

http://www.rexresearch.com/ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm�����

I guess Dr.

Ehrenhaft was the first to propose a Magnetic
Current.

(Jon

Gentry, Your liquid metal vortex helix).

https://revolution-green.com/can-electrolysis-powered-magnets/������

Ah! Ha!� more on Magnetic Currents!!!

https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446..html<https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446.html>

https://www.labmanager.com/white-papers-and-application-notes/2010/05/resistivity-conductivity-measurement-of-purified-water#.W9So9uJRc2w

https://www.askiitians.com/forums/Physical-Chemistry/19/19074/electro-che

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpotential

https://www.quora.com/Why-is-oxygen-molecule-paramagnetic-although-it-does-not-contain-any-unpaired-electron

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251580541_The_effect_of_magnetic_force_on_hydrogen_production_efficiency_in_water_electrolysis

http://www.physicscentral.com/experiment/physicsathome/electricwhirlpool.cfm

http://www.linux-host.org/energy/bmagpump.htm

Now Jon Gentry you have your liquid metal pump
so

that you can

make the helix tube Vortex!�
Ferricpetacarbonyl or

micro fine neo

powder to provide the liquid metal for pump

circuit.

Lots of reading here!���� Please think
about the

ramifications of

a Magnetic Current as proposed by Dr.
Ehrenhaft!























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________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
Sent: November 10, 2018 12:34 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery [2 Attachments]



No!� Bart, never got into that exotic element stuff!� Just followed those that were!

On 11/10/2018 10:42 AM, bart woodard [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
�

Hey Norm , your life's experiences have been fruitful!! Congrats!!

Have you ever played with table top combinations� such as thorium and fluoride or the molten salt combo?

On a hobbyist� basis approach?

Rossi likes to inject nickel/mag� powder so as I see to maintain his 1k output!.

________________________________
From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]> on behalf of Norman Wootan [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: November 9, 2018 3:12 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery [2 Attachments]
�
�

Mick! To answer the rest of your questions:� In that ARC process you have to use carbon rods to yield the carbon monoxide & hydrogen.� (carbon source) (arc is heat source).

Holy Water was interesting part of the Elemental Replication experiment. See:�

Elemental Replication ?

�

����� Around mid September I put together an electrolysis cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold Fusion Cell with the goal of exploring the possibilities of making what is termed �Pristine Water�.�� This water which will be used by Homeopaths will have had all memory or information removed.� This is accomplished by recombining monatomic hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated in a properly designed cell.� This is the ultimate in purity since this is water with conditions at the time of original creation.� �Wholy Water�is a term coined by my dear friend and fellow researcher Joe Tyls of Vancouver, BC.�� After several weeks of successful operation producing water that had all the earmarks of a true �pristine water� a fellow researcher suggested using an alternate electrolyte.�� A solution was selected that contained 77 colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the easiest assimilated into the body.�� With the electrolyte changed the cell was put back into operation as before with a nice recombination burn and production of the sought after �pristine water�.���


The water produced in the recombination burn of the H-H-O was collected from a silica glass condenser into a silica glass beaker for sampling.� When you flipped several CCs of the water into your mouth and tried to swallow, there was nothing there.� Hmmmm!� We immediately tested the viscosity and surface tension of the water and found it to be far below human blood which means that the water diffused directly into the capillaries around the tongue therefore nothing there to swallow.� The two Doctor who were there were amazed. � To prove the theory as to information carried by water, we collected a sample of several CCs into a plastic lab cup instead of the silica glass beaker. When you flipped the several CCs into your mouth you had to immediately spit it out for it was pure taste of plastic. This water picks up signature of anything it comes into contact with.� That is why the Homeopathic Doctors wanted it for making their tinctures.��� (signature of a healing agent). ��� We had all the necessary instruments to evaluate the Pristine water. See: � https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemorheology

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�� http://www.dynalenelabs.com/testing-services/thermal-testing/viscosity-rheology/?gclid=CjwKCAiA_ZTfBRBjEiwAN6YG4SdHu5bWZ9yHLBM9VNQ0TLl4tB1hOqMvR_dOEHNbGX6k_kDHHtb5xhoCgIgQAvD_BwE �������� https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tensiometer

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I made an offer to the Doctors present that a small unit for production of a liter/day of Pristine Water via complete unit built of quartz glass could be had for $5,000. Apparently they were not that enthused as we thought!� Oh! Well!

I built numerous Pyramids of all sizes and the Orgone Accumulators and even the Cloud� Buster.�� The pyramid experiments were very interesting for real effects were shown.�� Never tested whether water would� break after treatment by either Orgone� or pyramid.��� The complete description of the 4 inch cell is in the Elemental replication Part Two. See:


Cell Description

�

��� The electrolysis cell is designed to hold one (1) liter of electrolyte and operate at approximately 150 watt power level for the production of monatomic hydrogen and� monatomic oxygen which is burned back to pure water and collected in a glass condenser.� Cell container is schedule 40 PVC pipe section 6 inches long with bottom cap cemented on.� The top of the cell has a 4 inch female thread adapter cemented on to provide access to the interior via a male threaded plug which has the gas outlet port and two electrolyte fill ports to provide for replacement of lost electrolyte on the fly for continuos operation.� Positive and negative terminals are provided for external connection of the power supply leads to the internal anode- cathode stack.

��� The cell plate stack consist of 8 anode plates and 8 cathode plates of the following sizes constructed from 316L stainless steel of 22 ga. thickness.

4 ea.� 3� X 3� plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 2.75�plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 2.5�plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 2.25� plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 2� plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 1.75� plates, and� 2 ea. 3� X 1.5� plates.� The plates are drilled and stacked with alternating anode and cathode plates spaced 1/8� apart which makes a cylindrical shaped array which fits nicely inside of the 4� ID PVC� cell container.� Electrical leads are braided copper of #10 size which are covered by shrink tubing to cover conductive surface as they pass through the electrolyte to the cell terminal bolts.� All electrical surfaces other than the anode and cathode plates are carefully covered with PVC cement to prevent deterioration from electrolyte contact.��� Please note that if allowed to come into contact with �charged� surfaces monatomic hydrogen and monatonic oxygen will imediately form into their usual occuring state as diatomic H2 and O2 molecules.

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On 11/8/2018 4:29 PM, Mick [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
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Hi Norm,

The catalysts are very interesting.� Iron Cobalt and Nickel all ferromagnetic but at different spins.

Correct me if I am wrong but based on reading your links a bingofuel type reactor using tungsten electrodes that hopefully would last much longer would likely produce OH rather than H and carbon monoxide, what do you think?

Also water is strange indeed in that a pyramid or orgone accumulator changes it and these simple changes could make for water that breaks up more easily.� I would love to know what results you demonstrated with the totally juvenile memory free water you put back together from the OH?�

Sorry to hear about your neck fracture, I have a similar issue and it is extremely painful and debilitating at times.

Mick

On 11/7/2018 4:15 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
�


On 11/7/2018 6:06 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:

Jakob Wall! & all other researchers on here need to read the Whole Story as to why I no longer have a research lab.� Jakob, I'm sorry I did not reveal to you the BEST in my opinion of methods of producing hydrogen gas for I felt it was a little too advanced and difficult for you to experiment with.� See: https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en .�� There is a very long story behind this US Patent and a hell of a lot of research. The quest for a very inexpensive method of splitting water has been the Holy Grail of� cheap energy.�� In addition to the research papers and links that I gave to you, here are some more to dwell on.

https://www.researchgate.net/post/At_what_temperature_water_will_decompose_to_Oxygen_and_Hydrogen

https://www.quora.com/Does-water-break-down-into-oxygen-and-hydrogen-at-high-temperatures-If-so-then-at-what-temperature

https://www.quora.com/How-much-water-can-you-split-into-hydrogen-and-oxygen-using-electrolysis-with-one-kilowatt-hour-of-electricity

http://www.redrok.com/hion96a1.htm

https://www.nature.com/articles/nplants201741�� Please read carefully about the play of Nickel in this approach!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_splitting

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water-gas_shift_reaction��� I owned 77 acres of land in Eureka Springs, AR where they still had the old water gas generator and gas storage facility.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decarboxylation

https://phys.org/news/2018-02-uncovers-mechanism-water-splitting-catalyst.html

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/new-catalyst-could-split-water-cheaply/

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/512996/a-cheaper-way-to-make-hydrogen-from-water/

"SUPER STEAM - A Tesla conference in Colorado surfaces new Super Steam Technology (SST). Leonard Dorsett and friends from Texas share strikingly similar views to Aquarian Agency Ltd. They have technology which produces steam instantly at up to 3,000F without a boiler and with 60% savings in fuel over traditional boilers. Nitrogen rich, it can put out gasoline fires and treat many waste problems. Of major importance to Aquarian, this nitrogen-rich steam will help to produce heat and Aquastone at considerable savings."

For further information on Aquarian Agency Ltd. they can be contacted at 38 Weir Rd, Wimbledon, London SW19 SUG, England or on Internet at <aquarian ocign.ape.org>. SUPER STEAM TECHNOLOGY PART 2[http://astrosa.com/n95/n059501.gif]

Leonard Dorsett (PO Box 365, Grapevine, TX 76092) demonstrated his Super Steam Technology at the 1994 International Tesla Symposium. SST is a system for producing steam at any temperature or pressure independently and instantly without the need for a conventional boiler. It can instantly produce steam of any temperature from hot water at 180F to super heated steam at over 3000F, while pressures can vary from 1PSI to 3000PSI with airflow volumes of 1CFM up to over 2000CFM. The system operates on propane, methane, petrol, kerosene, methanol, diesel, hydrogen or just about anything else that bums and converts virtually 100% of the fuel into usable energy. (Note: The person in the picture is Norman Wootan of MRA fame)

This all sounds great, but how does it work? The basis of the unit is a specially designed open throat chamber with controlled air, water and fuel interaction and a high voltage ignition resulting in a direct fire process establishing thermal zones. This creates a stoichiometric condition resulting in a full spectrum of steam product. Now comes the interesting part At the increased temperatures of steam, disassociation occurs. (Could this be a clue to running cars on water??) The hydrogen and oxygen reacts causing an exponential increase of energy resulting in super heated steam. A similar superheat process was addressed by Tesla in the October 12, 1911 publication of the "Engineering News Record".

Applications of the SST system include a much more economical way of producing electricity as no conventional boiler is needed. It will also be an ideal low cost method for heating and cooling homes and businesses. Small portable units can be developed for home use, such as steam cleaning, and insect and ant removal, without the dangers of insecticides. The system can also be used for low cost purification of polluted water or sewerage and can also convert salt water into drinking water both quickly and inexpensively. Other uses are in fire fighting applications, ice and snow removal from roads, etc. and sterilization and nurturing of soil for agriculture where contamination has occurred.

I had designed a method of making hydrogen from carbon & water vapor using the Tesla Atomic Bombardment method of high frequency inside of spherical inclosure like this experiments with the carbon button lamp globes.�� After working with Leonard Dorsett and his Super Steam Project, I chose to use the Water Shift Process instead.� A side note is needed here!� The Super Steam Process was a result of Professor Brown studying the method the German's used for torpedo propulsion from WWI.� Acetylene Gas and sea water produced an exothermic reaction generating Super Steam. Brown built several reactors and tested them in the Tulsa area to break (down hole) the parafin deposits to release crude oil.

The Chemical equation for the reaction in the US Patent: https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en

(6C + 12 H2O� = 6CO2 + 24H)

Hydrogen Reactor Development

�

Original concept design was a high voltage, high frequency resonant device that utilized carbon water reaction with the feedstock being in the form of graphite rod stock.� This unit was designed for vehicle application and had too many limitations to be used for mass hydrogen generation.� This type reactor is very effective at hydrogen production since it targets the water vapor molecule at MRI frequencies, which breaks the bonding, allowing the carbon to latch onto the oxygen atoms leaving the hydrogen free. This device was a closed system that used a simple CO2/hydrogen separation stage that enabled the hydrogen to be feed to an internal combustion engine.

�

To allow for a sustained high mass flow of hydrogen gas output, reactor design took on a radical change.� By incorporating the Ranque/Hilsch, Counter Flow Implosion Vortex Principle, and continuous high mass flow and gas separation were achieved in one stage of operation.� Feedstock for this type reactor could be any carbon-based material that could be put into a powder form.� Highest carbon content of the feedstock provides for the most efficient hydrogen production with the least undesirable output material.

�

Super high temperature operating regime was chosen to be above 2500 C for the purpose of producing atomic hydrogen in the process.� The original reactor operated at temperatures that easily gasified basic carbon into a plasma state (>10,000 F) more easily allowing the production of hydrogen from the stoichiometric feed stock ratios.


[cid:[email protected]]

I sold one of my Patents (Sonodiffuser) and paid for my 52 acres of land and built a 5200 sq. Ft. lab the do the Prototype machining and Proof of Concept testing for GAZPROM, Moscow in 2005. A $1.2 million investment and they got the rights to the process and I got the beautiful Research Lab all paid in full. I was a self employed Contractor in Dallas working with HVAC, Electrical and Electronics Maintenance so had to commute 170 miles/day and only had the week ends for my time! Having to mow grass and maintane the 52 acres took all my time and when I suffered a neck fracture in 2012, had to retire. Liquidated the entire facility and sold it off. Moved to Dallas then to South Louisiana where I now do a lot of relaxing and fishing!

Hector and ALL, I did my time in the Barrel so now I will just contribute to the dialog inorder to assist any research you may be doing within my area of experitise!���� BTW! I have been out to pasture for a long time now, so no BULL offense!� As Hector knows, "It fits"! Lol



[cid:[email protected]]

Yes! Hector, I will wear my Border Patrol Hat when you come visit from PR!� Lol




On 11/6/2018 8:52 PM, [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
�

By the way ... i can hit mega millions or the power ball� . i never will not have a lab i can work in,� that is worst than death , you have no idea of the technology that had being lost by the greedy fucking bastards fucking my life , they will loose all they have� "soon" because it had being engineered that way by accumulative bad karma, i have another lab they will never reach or be able to intercept or destroy and that will decide their fate ..... they will be fucked hard !



(H)� �

---In [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>, <mkjekyll@...><mailto:mkjekyll@...> wrote :


Cmon Hector,

Bad taste!

The man had a more serious lab than anyone else here and his work speaks for itself.� Maybe he has gained the fortune he desired through R&D and now shitting in tall cotton or gone fishing reaping the rewards of retirement. Notwithstanding is still kind enough to help point us in the right directions around here.

"Funny�I can look back on a life of achievement, on challenges met, competitors bested, obstacles overcome. I�ve accomplished more than most men, and without the use of my legs. What?What makes a man, Mr. Lebowski?"

On 11/6/2018 8:04 AM, arkresearch@...<mailto:arkresearch@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
�

Dar n ! a Scientist inventor with no lab is like a breeding bull with no balls !

[Balls Cow                                                     GIF - Balls                                                     Cow                                                       WingDangDoodle GIFs]


---In [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>, <nwootan@...><mailto:nwootan@...> wrote :


Jacob! You asked me a question and I gave you my opinion!� I'm totally retired at 80 years old and have no lab to experiment in!� Your quote; I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. '' Slow down boy, we get paid for llooking for solutions, not to find them!''�� That certainly does not apply to me for I have shared all with the folks on this site.� I find you statement very interesting:� Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours with usual amount of gas looks to me extremely inefficient.�� ??????������� Care to share where you saw the power of a permanent magnet being used up!�� We all here on this site share what ever knowledge we have on the various subjects not seeking any monetary gain in any way! That is my approach!�� I just contribute to the dialog when I run across something interesting and think it will assist you guys!�� Norm

On 11/3/2018 11:32 PM, Jakob Wall wall_jakob@...<mailto:wall_jakob@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
�

Thanks Norman,
But i actually asced for ''most efficient way'' to split water known to you!
I realize there are a lot of different technigues to do just that.
And yes i realize you could give me a rather complex answer. But instead i hope for a
rather easy and reproductive answer since i am looking forward to solve my enerrgy
problems i just can not live with the momentary (sad and very stupid energy situation)
I am still not giving up becouse of a couple mistakes and misunderstandings.
If i would be a car dealer and you would ask me for a most efficient car available on the market
i would for sure not recommend a Prius, since there are a lot of cars with better fuel economie
even without being a hybrid and without additional cost like batterys,e-motors and a bunch added ECU's

Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours with usual amount of gas looks to me extremely
inefficient.
Also very expensive HHO-Garage products with output of 1,6 ltr/min.
Come on, 6 rusty nails and a old car batery does this job, no need to spend 1600 bucks on it.
I honestly expected solide advise or a honest NO way boy, i just talking around.

I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. '' Slow down boy, we get paid for llooking for
solutions, not to find them!'' That shoked me deeply and even if i get 150 years old, i will not forget it.
Thats true treason on mankind and deciving the people. I really hope nobody on this forum only care
about what he/she will be doing tomorrow.

Jakob

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On Sun, 10/28/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@...<mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]> wrote:

Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>, "Bert Pool" <BertPool512@...><mailto:BertPool512@...>, "Bob Paddock" <bob.paddock@...><mailto:bob.paddock@...>, "joel mcclain" <joel_76670@...><mailto:joel_76670@...>, "Jon Gentry" <jongen422@...><mailto:jongen422@...>, "Mbking42" <mbking42@...><mailto:mbking42@...>, "Toby Grotz" <wireless2@...><mailto:wireless2@...>, "Phil Rembold" <prembold@...><mailto:prembold@...>, "Angel Alvarez" <angel@...><mailto:angel@...>, "Fredric Fletcher" <ffletcher@...><mailto:ffletcher@...>
Received: Sunday, October 28, 2018, 9:44 AM


�












Jacob!� That would be a rather complex answer
but here is your
starting point!
https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct-thermomagnetic-splitting-of-water-.html���
After having been heavily involved in the COLD FUSION
Research
back in the 70s and 80s I quickly settled o0n the best
catalyst in
electrolytic cells which is pure nickel. I still have
the cell
used in the Elemental Replication experiments.


http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm����
The hidden
part of this research is the use of a nickel component
in the
combustion chamber. Bosch developed 90,000V ignition
systems to
enable water injection in gas engine which high
lighted the
Graneau HV decomposition of water via HVDC
discharge!
My magnetic Battery when run as an electrolytic cell
to produce
hydrogen does produce a huge amount of hydrogen gas as
shown by
the Dr. Ehrenhaft document.� I would tell you to
pursue the super
high Tesla magnetic flux and nickel electrodes in an
electrolytic
cell.� The major obstacle to be overcome is the rapid
collection
of ions from solution by the 1.3 Tesla flux across a
.020"
mechanical gap which quickly takes the cell into a
super-conduction mode which takes out the driving DC
power supply.
You can flush the magnetic gaps with distilled water
and the gaps
will show in the meg-ohm range then go to zero ohms
after a short
period of running, the gathered ions totally short
cell. During
the brief runs there is a huge amount of hydrogen gas
produced�
which I burned off as it was generated.� Much can be
said about
driving the cell with high frequencies as the Myers
research
showed.� Our friend up in Canada at George Wiseman,
Eagle Research
is running well ahead of the crowd on the production
of H-H-O.
Just for giggles!


16 October
1996
To: Hal
Fox,� Fusion Facts
Elemental
Replication ?
�
����� Around mid
September
I put together an
electrolysis cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold
Fusion Cell
with the goal of
exploring the possibilities of making what is
termed �Pristine
Water�.�� This water
which will be used by Homeopaths
will have had all memory or information
removed.� This is accomplished by
recombining monatomic
hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated in a
properly
designed cell.� This is
the ultimate in purity since this is
water with conditions at the time of original
creation.� �Holly Water�is a term
coined by my dear
friend and fellow researcher Joe Tyls of
Vancouver, BC.�� After several weeks of
successful operation
producing water that had all the earmarks of a
true �pristine
water� a fellow
researcher suggested using an alternate
electrolyte.�� A solution was selected
that contained 77
colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the
easiest
assimilated into the
body.�� With the
electrolyte changed the
cell was put back into operation as before with a
nice
recombination burn and
production of the sought after �pristine
water�.�������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������
�������
��� After about an
hour of
operation the cell
went absolutely �nuts� with the temperature
rapidly climbing
to boiling point
and the current out of sight.�
When the
cell was opened we found a deep red sludge deposit
which
shorted the cell
plates.�� Our first
thought was that the
electrolytic action precipitated out the colloidal
minerals
which caused the
deposit found.�� The�
electrolyte was allowed
to settle out the
precipitate.�� After�
decanting off,� the clear electrolyte
was
returned to the
cell for another run. Again the cell operated
normally for
about an hour with a
normal recombination burn and recovery of the
water being
consumed by the cell
in the splitting action.�� Again
the cell
temperature and current mirrored the first
run.�
Again the cell contained the same amount of
sludge
residue.�� This process
was repeated ten (10) times
with exactly the same results.��
All of
the sludge was carefully dried and weighed on an
electronic
scale with a five
decimal
resolution.���������������������
The cell plates and all hardware were
weighed to
determine any loss of
mass that may contribute to the mass gain observed
in the
sludge.� Five hundred
(500) ml of the original
electrolyte solution used in the cell was vacuum
distilled to
determine the
exact mass of colloidal minerals
contained.�
When all factors were considered we came
out with a
mass gain of� 48 gm
which cannot be explained by
conventional
electrolysis.����������������������

��� After talking
to Dr.
Robert Bass and Hal
Fox I learned of a patent that has been filed on
the
transmutation of elements
in the cold fusion cell which is the process that
Dr. John
Bockris has been so
active in.�� Both Dr.
Bass and Hal Fox
stated that what I was observing is not the same
as the
transmutation observed
in the cold fusion cell since I have a overall
mass gain and
not a lateral
movement of elements in the periodic table toward
lighter
elements with a
resulting heat release.� This
unusual
cell operation has caused quite a reaction in the
scientific
community. �At this
time I have built a complete new cell
with every possible factor which could possibly
explain the
mass gain
considered and documented.� The
ten (10)
consecutive runs on the new cell will be completed
soon and a
report will be
forthcoming.�� What is
interesting about
this phenomenon is that when an eleventh run was
made with the
original
electrolyte exactly the same amount of residue was
recovered
as in the previous
ten
runs.�����������������������������������������������������������������������

�
Since
the same electrolyte is reused each time with only
distilled
water being added
to replace the volume lost by the removal of the
solids and
the water recovered
by the recombination burn we are hard pressed to
explain the
observed
phenomenon.���� The
electrolyte appears
stronger in mineral concentration and shows no
sign of

depletion.��������������������������������

�� After conferring
with
Joe Tyls we arrived at
the conclusion that the 77 colloidal minerals
contained in the
electrolyte
provide the atomic templates needed for the
monatomic hydrogen
(father of all
the elements) to replicate selected elements in
this exotic
mixture.� If you
subscribe to the theories of the late
Walter Russell and his explanation of the octave
based
periodic table with
monatonic hydrogen being what he describes as
hydrons
(precursor to hydrogen)
then it is possible for the replication of
elements directly
from energy input
alone.� This is how all
matter was
created in the beginning as described by
Schappeller in �The
Physics of the
Primary State of Matter�.��� I
will keep
all informed as to our progress and findings in
this very
intriguing venture.
�
Norman
Wootan
P.O.
Box 141049
Dallas,
TX 75214
(214)
360-0865
�
�
CC:� Gene Mallove,
Infinite
Energy
CC:� Dr. John
Bockris, Texas
A/M






On 10/28/2018 1:01 AM,
Jakob Wall
wall_jakob@...<mailto:wall_jakob@...>
[EVGRAY] wrote:




�


Thanks Norman,



BTW, what is the most effective water split
device that
you ever put you hands on?

As HHO researcher for dekades you should be
able to point
us directly to the most effective known!

Please be specific about reconstruction of the
same, since
we are in public domain it will become public
knowledge
and public good. I assume you intend nothing
else,rigth ?


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On Sat, 10/27/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@...<mailto:nwootan@...>
[EVGRAY]
<[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>
wrote:



Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's
Magnetic
Battery [3 Attachments]

To: "Bert Pool" <BertPool512@...><mailto:BertPool512@...>,
"Bob
Paddock" <bob.paddock@...><mailto:bob.paddock@...>,
"joel mcclain"
<joel_76670@...><mailto:joel_76670@...>,
"Jon Gentry"
<jongen422@...><mailto:jongen422@...>,
"Lane Wootan"
<lanewootan@...><mailto:lanewootan@...>,
"Mbking42"
<mbking42@...><mailto:mbking42@...>,
"Toby Grotz"
<wireless2@...><mailto:wireless2@...>,
"Phil Rembold"
<prembold@...><mailto:prembold@...>,
"Angel Alvarez"
<angel@...><mailto:angel@...>,
"Fredric Fletcher"
<ffletcher@...><mailto:ffletcher@...>,
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

To understand the unwinding of a thread
leading

to Magnetic

Generating Hydrogen and this Magnetic Battery,
we have

to dust off

our� 9th grade Chemistry Books!

http://www.rexresearch.com/ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm�����

I guess Dr.

Ehrenhaft was the first to propose a Magnetic
Current.

(Jon

Gentry, Your liquid metal vortex helix).

https://revolution-green.com/can-electrolysis-powered-magnets/������

Ah! Ha!� more on Magnetic Currents!!!

https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446.html

https://www.labmanager.com/white-papers-and-application-notes/2010/05/resistivity-conductivity-measurement-of-purified-water#.W9So9uJRc2w

https://www.askiitians.com/forums/Physical-Chemistry/19/19074/electro-che

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpotential

https://www.quora.com/Why-is-oxygen-molecule-paramagnetic-although-it-does-not-contain-any-unpaired-electron

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251580541_The_effect_of_magnetic_force_on_hydrogen_production_efficiency_in_water_electrolysis

http://www.physicscentral.com/experiment/physicsathome/electricwhirlpool.cfm

http://www.linux-host.org/energy/bmagpump.htm

Now Jon Gentry you have your liquid metal pump
so

that you can

make the helix tube Vortex!�
Ferricpetacarbonyl or

micro fine neo

powder to provide the liquid metal for pump

circuit.

Lots of reading here!���� Please think
about the

ramifications of

a Magnetic Current as proposed by Dr.
Ehrenhaft!























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