Body
Bart,
Your information including on your cat is very interesting. I have been
using distilled water that is first softened and then RO then distilled
beginning from my well. It has a similar "drying" effect as norms
wholly water though not as pronounced.
Could you please provide more information on your experiments concerning
distilled water and using the magnetic stirrer and how that alkalizes
the water? The NMR and parahydrogen post if very long winded so
difficult for me to get the gist of your presentation.
Thanks,
Mick
On 11/10/2018 10:37 AM, bart woodard [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
>
> I use a magnetic stirrer with distilled and wait for the ph to rise,
> the results are immediate.
>
> https://hannainst.com/hi190m-1-magnetic-mini-stirrer.html
>
> Mini Magnetic Stirrer (115V) - HI190M-1 - Hanna Instruments
> <https://hannainst.com/hi190m-1-magnetic-mini-stirrer.html>
> hannainst.com
> Compact. Lightweight. This mini magnetic stirrer with plastic cover
> can stir up to 1 liter. Big power, small footprint. Perfect for any lab!
>
>
>
>
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> *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of
> Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* November 10, 2018 12:34 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery [2
> Attachments]
>
>
>
> No!� Bart, never got into that exotic element stuff!� Just
> followed those that were!
>
> On 11/10/2018 10:42 AM, bart woodard [email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>> �
>>
>> Hey Norm , your life's experiences have been fruitful!! Congrats!!
>>
>> Have you ever played with table top combinations� such as thorium
>> and fluoride or the molten salt combo?
>>
>> On a hobbyist� basis approach?
>>
>> Rossi likes to inject nickel/mag� powder so as I see to maintain
>> his 1k output!.
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> on behalf of
>> Norman Wootan [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
>> *Sent:* November 9, 2018 3:12 PM
>> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>> *Subject:* Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery [2
>> Attachments]
>> �
>> �
>>
>> Mick! To answer the rest of your questions:� In that ARC process
>> you have to use carbon rods to yield the carbon monoxide &
>> hydrogen.� (carbon source) (arc is heat source).
>>
>> Holy Water was interesting part of the Elemental Replication
>> experiment. See:�
>>
>> *Elemental Replication ?*
>>
>> *�*
>>
>> ����� Around mid September I put together an electrolysis
>> cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold Fusion Cell with the goal of
>> exploring the possibilities of making what is termed �Pristine
>> Water�.�� This water which will be used by Homeopaths will have
>> had all memory or information removed.� This is accomplished by
>> recombining monatomic hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated in a
>> properly designed cell.� This is the ultimate in purity since this
>> is water with conditions at the time of original creation.�
>> �Wholy Water�is a term coined by my dear friend and fellow
>> researcher Joe Tyls of Vancouver, BC.�� After several weeks of
>> successful operation producing water that had all the earmarks of a
>> true �pristine water� a fellow researcher suggested using an
>> alternate electrolyte.�� A solution was selected that contained
>> 77 colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the easiest
>> assimilated into the body.�� With the electrolyte changed the
>> cell was put back into operation as before with a nice recombination
>> burn and production of the sought after �pristine water�.���
>>
>>
>> The water produced in the recombination burn of the H-H-O was
>> collected from a silica glass condenser into a silica glass beaker
>> for sampling.� When you flipped several CCs of the water into your
>> mouth and tried to swallow, there was nothing there.� Hmmmm!� We
>> immediately tested the viscosity and surface tension of the water and
>> found it to be far below human blood which means that the water
>> diffused directly into the capillaries around the tongue therefore
>> nothing there to swallow.� The two Doctor who were there were
>> amazed. � To prove the theory as to information carried by water,
>> we collected a sample of several CCs into a plastic lab cup instead
>> of the silica glass beaker. When you flipped the several CCs into
>> your mouth you had to immediately spit it out for it was pure taste
>> of plastic. This water picks up signature of anything it comes into
>> contact with.� That is why the Homeopathic Doctors wanted it for
>> making their tinctures.��� (signature of a healing agent).
>> ��� We had all the necessary instruments to evaluate the
>> Pristine water. See: � https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemorheology
>>
>> Hemorheology - Wikipedia <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemorheology>
>> en.m.wikipedia.org
>> Blood viscosity is a measure of the resistance of blood to flow. It
>> can also be described as the thickness and stickiness of blood. This
>> biophysical property makes it a critical determinant of friction
>> against the vessel walls, the rate of venous return, the work
>> required for the heart to pump blood, and how much oxygen is
>> transported to tissues and organs.
>>
>> ��
>> http://www.dynalenelabs.com/testing-services/thermal-testing/viscosity-rheology/?gclid=CjwKCAiA_ZTfBRBjEiwAN6YG4SdHu5bWZ9yHLBM9VNQ0TLl4tB1hOqMvR_dOEHNbGX6k_kDHHtb5xhoCgIgQAvD_BwE
>> �������� https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tensiometer
>>
>> � https://hydramotion.com/en/technical/units-of-viscosity
>>
>> I made an offer to the Doctors present that a small unit for
>> production of a liter/day of Pristine Water via complete unit built
>> of quartz glass could be had for $5,000. Apparently they were not
>> that enthused as we thought!� Oh! Well!
>>
>> I built numerous Pyramids of all sizes and the Orgone Accumulators
>> and even the Cloud� Buster.�� The pyramid experiments were very
>> interesting for real effects were shown.�� Never tested whether
>> water would� break after treatment by either Orgone� or
>> pyramid.��� The complete description of the 4 inch cell is in
>> the Elemental replication Part Two. See:
>>
>>
>> Cell Description
>>
>> �
>>
>> ��� The electrolysis cell is designed to hold one (1) liter of
>> electrolyte and operate at approximately 150 watt power level for the
>> production of monatomic hydrogen and� monatomic oxygen which is
>> burned back to pure water and collected in a glass condenser.� Cell
>> container is schedule 40 PVC pipe section 6 inches long with bottom
>> cap cemented on.� The top of the cell has a 4 inch female thread
>> adapter cemented on to provide access to the interior via a male
>> threaded plug which has the gas outlet port and two electrolyte fill
>> ports to provide for replacement of lost electrolyte on the fly for
>> continuos operation.� Positive and negative terminals are provided
>> for external connection of the power supply leads to the internal
>> anode- cathode stack.
>>
>> ��� The cell plate stack consist of 8 anode plates and 8
>> cathode plates of the following sizes constructed from 316L stainless
>> steel of 22 ga. thickness.
>>
>> 4 ea.� 3� X 3� plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 2.75�plates,� 2 ea.
>> 3� X 2.5�plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 2.25� plates,� 2 ea. 3� X
>> 2� plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 1.75� plates, and� 2 ea. 3� X
>> 1.5� plates.� The plates are drilled and stacked with alternating
>> anode and cathode plates spaced 1/8� apart which makes a
>> cylindrical shaped array which fits nicely inside of the 4� ID
>> PVC� cell container.� Electrical leads are braided copper of #10
>> size which are covered by shrink tubing to cover conductive surface
>> as they pass through the electrolyte to the cell terminal bolts.�
>> All electrical surfaces other than the anode and cathode plates are
>> carefully covered with PVC cement to prevent deterioration from
>> electrolyte contact.��� Please note that if allowed to come
>> into contact with �charged� surfaces monatomic hydrogen and
>> monatonic oxygen will imediately form into their usual occuring state
>> as diatomic H2 and O2 molecules.
>>
>> ���������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������
>>
>>
>> On 11/8/2018 4:29 PM, Mick [email protected]
>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>> �
>>>
>>> Hi Norm,
>>>
>>> The catalysts are very interesting.� Iron Cobalt and Nickel all
>>> ferromagnetic but at different spins.
>>>
>>> Correct me if I am wrong but based on reading your links a bingofuel
>>> type reactor using tungsten electrodes that hopefully would last
>>> much longer would likely produce OH rather than H and carbon
>>> monoxide, what do you think?
>>>
>>> Also water is strange indeed in that a pyramid or orgone accumulator
>>> changes it and these simple changes could make for water that breaks
>>> up more easily.� I would love to know what results you
>>> demonstrated with the totally juvenile memory free water you put
>>> back together from the OH?�
>>>
>>> Sorry to hear about your neck fracture, I have a similar issue and
>>> it is extremely painful and debilitating at times.
>>>
>>> Mick
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/7/2018 4:15 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected]
>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>> �
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11/7/2018 6:06 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Jakob Wall! & all other researchers on here need to read the Whole
>>>>> Story as to why I no longer have a research lab.� Jakob, I'm
>>>>> sorry I did not reveal to you the BEST in my opinion of methods of
>>>>> producing hydrogen gas for I felt it was a little too advanced and
>>>>> difficult for you to experiment with.� See:
>>>>> https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en .�� There is
>>>>> a very long story behind this US Patent and a hell of a lot of
>>>>> research. The quest for a very inexpensive method of splitting
>>>>> water has been the Holy Grail of� cheap energy.�� In
>>>>> addition to the research papers and links that I gave to you, here
>>>>> are some more to dwell on.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.researchgate.net/post/At_what_temperature_water_will_decompose_to_Oxygen_and_Hydrogen
>>>>> <https://www..researchgate.net/post/At_what_temperature_water_will_decompose_to_Oxygen_and_Hydrogen>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.quora.com/Does-water-break-down-into-oxygen-and-hydrogen-at-high-temperatures-If-so-then-at-what-temperature
>>>>> <https://www..quora.com/Does-water-break-down-into-oxygen-and-hydrogen-at-high-temperatures-If-so-then-at-what-temperature>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.quora.com/How-much-water-can-you-split-into-hydrogen-and-oxygen-using-electrolysis-with-one-kilowatt-hour-of-electricity
>>>>> <https://www..quora.com/How-much-water-can-you-split-into-hydrogen-and-oxygen-using-electrolysis-with-one-kilowatt-hour-of-electricity>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.redrok.com/hion96a1.htm
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.nature.com/articles/nplants201741
>>>>> <https://www..nature.com/articles/nplants201741>�� Please read
>>>>> carefully about the play of Nickel in this approach!
>>>>>
>>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_splitting
>>>>>
>>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water-gas_shift_reaction���
>>>>> I owned 77 acres of land in Eureka Springs, AR where they still
>>>>> had the old water gas generator and gas storage facility.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decarboxylation
>>>>>
>>>>> https://phys.org/news/2018-02-uncovers-mechanism-water-splitting-catalyst.html
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/new-catalyst-could-split-water-cheaply/
>>>>> <https://www..scientificamerican.com/article/new-catalyst-could-split-water-cheaply/>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.technologyreview.com/s/512996/a-cheaper-way-to-make-hydrogen-from-water/
>>>>> <https://www..technologyreview.com/s/512996/a-cheaper-way-to-make-hydrogen-from-water/>
>>>>>
>>>>> "*SUPER STEAM* - A Tesla conference in Colorado surfaces new Super
>>>>> Steam Technology (SST). Leonard Dorsett and friends from Texas
>>>>> share strikingly similar views to Aquarian Agency Ltd. They have
>>>>> technology which produces steam instantly at up to 3,000F without
>>>>> a boiler and with 60% savings in fuel over traditional boilers.
>>>>> Nitrogen rich, it can put out gasoline fires and treat many waste
>>>>> problems. Of major importance to Aquarian, this nitrogen-rich
>>>>> steam will help to produce heat and Aquastone at considerable
>>>>> savings."
>>>>>
>>>>> For further information on Aquarian Agency Ltd. they can be
>>>>> contacted at 38 Weir Rd, Wimbledon, London SW19 SUG, England or on
>>>>> Internet at <aquarian ocign.ape.org>. *_SUPER STEAM TECHNOLOGY
>>>>> PART 2_*
>>>>>
>>>>> Leonard Dorsett (PO Box 365, Grapevine, TX 76092) demonstrated his
>>>>> Super Steam Technology at the 1994 International Tesla Symposium.
>>>>> SST is a system for producing steam at any temperature or pressure
>>>>> independently and instantly without the need for a conventional
>>>>> boiler. It can instantly produce steam of any temperature from hot
>>>>> water at 180F to super heated steam at over 3000F, while pressures
>>>>> can vary from 1PSI to 3000PSI with airflow volumes of 1CFM up to
>>>>> over 2000CFM. The system operates on propane, methane, petrol,
>>>>> kerosene, methanol, diesel, hydrogen or just about anything else
>>>>> that bums and converts virtually 100% of the fuel into usable
>>>>> energy. (Note: The person in the picture is Norman Wootan of MRA fame)
>>>>>
>>>>> This all sounds great, but how does it work? The basis of the unit
>>>>> is a specially designed open throat chamber with controlled air,
>>>>> water and fuel interaction and a high voltage ignition resulting
>>>>> in a direct fire process establishing thermal zones. This creates
>>>>> a stoichiometric condition resulting in a full spectrum of steam
>>>>> product. Now comes the interesting part At the increased
>>>>> temperatures of steam, disassociation occurs. (Could this be a
>>>>> clue to running cars on water??) The hydrogen and oxygen reacts
>>>>> causing an exponential increase of energy resulting in super
>>>>> heated steam. A similar superheat process was addressed by Tesla
>>>>> in the October 12, 1911 publication of the "Engineering News Record".
>>>>>
>>>>> Applications of the SST system include a much more economical way
>>>>> of producing electricity as no conventional boiler is needed. It
>>>>> will also be an ideal low cost method for heating and cooling
>>>>> homes and businesses. Small portable units can be developed for
>>>>> home use, such as steam cleaning, and insect and ant removal,
>>>>> without the dangers of insecticides. The system can also be used
>>>>> for low cost purification of polluted water or sewerage and can
>>>>> also convert salt water into drinking water both quickly and
>>>>> inexpensively. Other uses are in fire fighting applications, ice
>>>>> and snow removal from roads, etc. and sterilization and nurturing
>>>>> of soil for agriculture where contamination has occurred.
>>>>>
>>>>> I had designed a method of making hydrogen from carbon & water
>>>>> vapor using the Tesla Atomic Bombardment method of high frequency
>>>>> inside of spherical inclosure like this experiments with the
>>>>> carbon button lamp globes.�� After working with Leonard
>>>>> Dorsett and his Super Steam Project, I chose to use the Water
>>>>> Shift Process instead.� A side note is needed here!� The Super
>>>>> Steam Process was a result of Professor Brown studying the method
>>>>> the German's used for torpedo propulsion from WWI.� Acetylene
>>>>> Gas and sea water produced an exothermic reaction generating Super
>>>>> Steam. Brown built several reactors and tested them in the Tulsa
>>>>> area to break (down hole) the parafin deposits to release crude oil.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Chemical equation for the reaction in the US Patent:
>>>>> https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en
>>>>>
>>>>> *(6C + 12 H2O� = 6CO2 + 24H) *
>>>>>
>>>>> Hydrogen Reactor Development
>>>>>
>>>>> *�*
>>>>>
>>>>> Original concept design was a high voltage, high frequency
>>>>> resonant device that utilized carbon water reaction with the
>>>>> feedstock being in the form of graphite rod stock.� This unit
>>>>> was designed for vehicle application and had too many limitations
>>>>> to be used for mass hydrogen generation.� This type reactor is
>>>>> very effective at hydrogen production since it targets the water
>>>>> vapor molecule at MRI frequencies, which breaks the bonding,
>>>>> allowing the carbon to latch onto the oxygen atoms leaving the
>>>>> hydrogen free. This device was a closed system that used a simple
>>>>> CO2/hydrogen separation stage that enabled the hydrogen to be feed
>>>>> to an internal combustion engine.
>>>>>
>>>>> *�*
>>>>>
>>>>> *To allow for a sustained high mass flow of hydrogen gas output,
>>>>> reactor design took on a radical change.� By incorporating the
>>>>> Ranque/Hilsch, Counter Flow Implosion Vortex Principle, and
>>>>> continuous high mass flow and gas separation were achieved in one
>>>>> stage of operation.� Feedstock for this type reactor could be
>>>>> any carbon-based material that could be put into a powder form.�
>>>>> Highest carbon content of the feedstock provides for the most
>>>>> efficient hydrogen production with the least undesirable output
>>>>> material.*
>>>>>
>>>>> *�*
>>>>>
>>>>> *Super high temperature operating regime was chosen to be above
>>>>> 2500 C for the purpose of producing atomic hydrogen in the
>>>>> process.� The original reactor operated at temperatures that
>>>>> easily gasified basic carbon into a plasma state (>10,000 F) more
>>>>> easily allowing the production of hydrogen from the stoichiometric
>>>>> feed stock ratios.*
>>>>>
>>>>> *
>>>>> *
>>>>>
>>>>> **
>>>>>
>>>>> I sold one of my Patents (Sonodiffuser) and paid for my 52 acres
>>>>> of land and built a 5200 sq. Ft. lab the do the Prototype
>>>>> machining and Proof of Concept testing for GAZPROM, Moscow in
>>>>> 2005. A $1.2 million investment and they got the rights to the
>>>>> process and I got the beautiful Research Lab all paid in full. I
>>>>> was a self employed Contractor in Dallas working with HVAC,
>>>>> Electrical and Electronics Maintenance so had to commute 170
>>>>> miles/day and only had the week ends for my time! Having to mow
>>>>> grass and maintane the 52 acres took all my time and when I
>>>>> suffered a neck fracture in 2012, had to retire. Liquidated the
>>>>> entire facility and sold it off. Moved to Dallas then to South
>>>>> Louisiana where I now do a lot of relaxing and fishing!
>>>>>
>>>>> Hector and ALL, I did my time in the Barrel so now I will just
>>>>> contribute to the dialog inorder to assist any research you may be
>>>>> doing within my area of experitise!���� BTW! I have been
>>>>> out to pasture for a long time now, so no BULL offense!� As
>>>>> Hector knows, "It fits"! Lol
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes! Hector, I will wear my Border Patrol Hat when you come visit
>>>>> from PR!� Lol
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/6/2018 8:52 PM, [email protected]
>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>> �
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> By the way ... i can hit mega millions or the power ball� . i
>>>>>> never will not have a lab i can work in,� that is worst than
>>>>>> death , you have no idea of the technology that had being lost by
>>>>>> the greedy fucking bastards fucking my life , they will loose all
>>>>>> they have� "soon" because it had being engineered that way by
>>>>>> accumulative bad karma, i have another lab they will never reach
>>>>>> or be able to intercept or destroy and that will decide their
>>>>>> fate ..... they will be fucked hard !
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (H)� �
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>,
>>>>>> <mkjekyll@...> <mailto:mkjekyll@...> wrote :
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cmon Hector,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bad taste!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The man had a more serious lab than anyone else here and his work
>>>>>> speaks for itself.� Maybe he has gained the fortune he desired
>>>>>> through R&D and now shitting in tall cotton or gone fishing
>>>>>> reaping the rewards of retirement. Notwithstanding is still kind
>>>>>> enough to help point us in the right directions around here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "*Funny�I can look back on a life of achievement, on challenges
>>>>>> met, competitors bested, obstacles overcome. I�ve accomplished
>>>>>> more than most men, and without the use of my legs. What?What
>>>>>> makes a man, Mr. Lebowski?"*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/6/2018 8:04 AM, arkresearch@... <mailto:arkresearch@...>
>>>>>> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> �
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dar n ! a Scientist inventor with no lab is like a breeding
>>>>>>> bull with no balls !
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Balls Cow GIF - Balls Cow WingDangDoodle GIFs
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ---In [email protected]
>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>, <nwootan@...>
>>>>>>> <mailto:nwootan@...> wrote :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jacob! You asked me a question and I gave you my opinion!�
>>>>>>> I'm totally retired at 80 years old and have no lab to
>>>>>>> experiment in!� Your quote; I heard once a phrase from a
>>>>>>> researcher who said. '' Slow down boy, we get paid for
>>>>>>> llooking for solutions, not to find them!''�� That
>>>>>>> certainly does not apply to me for I have shared all with
>>>>>>> the folks on this site.� I find you statement very
>>>>>>> interesting:� Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24
>>>>>>> hours with usual amount of gas looks to me extremely
>>>>>>> inefficient.�� ??????������� Care to share
>>>>>>> where you saw the power of a permanent magnet being used
>>>>>>> up!�� We all here on this site share what ever knowledge
>>>>>>> we have on the various subjects not seeking any monetary
>>>>>>> gain in any way! That is my approach!�� I just
>>>>>>> contribute to the dialog when I run across something
>>>>>>> interesting and think it will assist you guys!�� Norm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11/3/2018 11:32 PM, Jakob Wall wall_jakob@...
>>>>>>> <mailto:wall_jakob@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> �
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks Norman,
>>>>>>>> But i actually asced for ''most efficient way'' to
>>>>>>>> split water known to you!
>>>>>>>> I realize there are a lot of different technigues to do
>>>>>>>> just that.
>>>>>>>> And yes i realize you could give me a rather complex
>>>>>>>> answer. But instead i hope for a
>>>>>>>> rather easy and reproductive answer since i am looking
>>>>>>>> forward to solve my enerrgy
>>>>>>>> problems i just can not live with the momentary (sad
>>>>>>>> and very stupid energy situation)
>>>>>>>> I am still not giving up becouse of a couple mistakes
>>>>>>>> and misunderstandings..
>>>>>>>> If i would be a car dealer and you would ask me for a
>>>>>>>> most efficient car available on the market
>>>>>>>> i would for sure not recommend a Prius, since there are
>>>>>>>> a lot of cars with better fuel economie
>>>>>>>> even without being a hybrid and without additional cost
>>>>>>>> like batterys,e-motors and a bunch added ECU's
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours with
>>>>>>>> usual amount of gas looks to me extremely
>>>>>>>> inefficient.
>>>>>>>> Also very expensive HHO-Garage products with output of
>>>>>>>> 1,6 ltr/min.
>>>>>>>> Come on, 6 rusty nails and a old car batery does this
>>>>>>>> job, no need to spend 1600 bucks on it.
>>>>>>>> I honestly expected solide advise or a honest NO way
>>>>>>>> boy, i just talking around.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. ''
>>>>>>>> Slow down boy, we get paid for llooking for
>>>>>>>> solutions, not to find them!'' That shoked me deeply
>>>>>>>> and even if i get 150 years old, i will not forget it.
>>>>>>>> Thats true treason on mankind and deciving the people.
>>>>>>>> I really hope nobody on this forum only care
>>>>>>>> about what he/she will be doing tomorrow.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jakob
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 10/28/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>>>>> <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery
>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>, "Bert Pool"
>>>>>>>> <BertPool512@...> <mailto:BertPool512@...>, "Bob
>>>>>>>> Paddock" <bob.paddock@...> <mailto:bob.paddock@...>,
>>>>>>>> "joel mcclain" <joel_76670@...>
>>>>>>>> <mailto:joel_76670@...>, "Jon Gentry" <jongen422@...>
>>>>>>>> <mailto:jongen422@...>, "Mbking42" <mbking42@...>
>>>>>>>> <mailto:mbking42@...>, "Toby Grotz" <wireless2@...>
>>>>>>>> <mailto:wireless2@...>, "Phil Rembold" <prembold@...>
>>>>>>>> <mailto:prembold@...>, "Angel Alvarez" <angel@...>
>>>>>>>> <mailto:angel@...>, "Fredric Fletcher" <ffletcher@...>
>>>>>>>> <mailto:ffletcher@...>
>>>>>>>> Received: Sunday, October 28, 2018, 9:44 AM
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> �
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jacob!� That would be a rather complex answer
>>>>>>>> but here is your
>>>>>>>> starting point!
>>>>>>>> https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct-thermomagnetic-splitting-of-water-.html���
>>>>>>>> After having been heavily involved in the COLD FUSION
>>>>>>>> Research
>>>>>>>> back in the 70s and 80s I quickly settled o0n the best
>>>>>>>> catalyst in
>>>>>>>> electrolytic cells which is pure nickel. I still have
>>>>>>>> the cell
>>>>>>>> used in the Elemental Replication experiments.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm����
>>>>>>>> The hidden
>>>>>>>> part of this research is the use of a nickel component
>>>>>>>> in the
>>>>>>>> combustion chamber. Bosch developed 90,000V ignition
>>>>>>>> systems to
>>>>>>>> enable water injection in gas engine which high
>>>>>>>> lighted the
>>>>>>>> Graneau HV decomposition of water via HVDC
>>>>>>>> discharge!
>>>>>>>> My magnetic Battery when run as an electrolytic cell
>>>>>>>> to produce
>>>>>>>> hydrogen does produce a huge amount of hydrogen gas as
>>>>>>>> shown by
>>>>>>>> the Dr. Ehrenhaft document.� I would tell you to
>>>>>>>> pursue the super
>>>>>>>> high Tesla magnetic flux and nickel electrodes in an
>>>>>>>> electrolytic
>>>>>>>> cell.� The major obstacle to be overcome is the rapid
>>>>>>>> collection
>>>>>>>> of ions from solution by the 1.3 Tesla flux across a
>>>>>>>> ..020"
>>>>>>>> mechanical gap which quickly takes the cell into a
>>>>>>>> super-conduction mode which takes out the driving DC
>>>>>>>> power supply.
>>>>>>>> You can flush the magnetic gaps with distilled water
>>>>>>>> and the gaps
>>>>>>>> will show in the meg-ohm range then go to zero ohms
>>>>>>>> after a short
>>>>>>>> period of running, the gathered ions totally short
>>>>>>>> cell. During
>>>>>>>> the brief runs there is a huge amount of hydrogen gas
>>>>>>>> produced�
>>>>>>>> which I burned off as it was generated.� Much can be
>>>>>>>> said about
>>>>>>>> driving the cell with high frequencies as the Myers
>>>>>>>> research
>>>>>>>> showed.� Our friend up in Canada at George Wiseman,
>>>>>>>> Eagle Research
>>>>>>>> is running well ahead of the crowd on the production
>>>>>>>> of H-H-O.
>>>>>>>> Just for giggles!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 16 October
>>>>>>>> 1996
>>>>>>>> To: Hal
>>>>>>>> Fox,� Fusion Facts
>>>>>>>> Elemental
>>>>>>>> Replication ?
>>>>>>>> �
>>>>>>>> ����� Around mid
>>>>>>>> September
>>>>>>>> I put together an
>>>>>>>> electrolysis cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold
>>>>>>>> Fusion Cell
>>>>>>>> with the goal of
>>>>>>>> exploring the possibilities of making what is
>>>>>>>> termed �Pristine
>>>>>>>> Water�.�� This water
>>>>>>>> which will be used by Homeopaths
>>>>>>>> will have had all memory or information
>>>>>>>> removed.� This is accomplished by
>>>>>>>> recombining monatomic
>>>>>>>> hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated in a
>>>>>>>> properly
>>>>>>>> designed cell.� This is
>>>>>>>> the ultimate in purity since this is
>>>>>>>> water with conditions at the time of original
>>>>>>>> creation.� �Holly Water�is a term
>>>>>>>> coined by my dear
>>>>>>>> friend and fellow researcher Joe Tyls of
>>>>>>>> Vancouver, BC.�� After several weeks of
>>>>>>>> successful operation
>>>>>>>> producing water that had all the earmarks of a
>>>>>>>> true �pristine
>>>>>>>> water� a fellow
>>>>>>>> researcher suggested using an alternate
>>>>>>>> electrolyte.�� A solution was selected
>>>>>>>> that contained 77
>>>>>>>> colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the
>>>>>>>> easiest
>>>>>>>> assimilated into the
>>>>>>>> body.�� With the
>>>>>>>> electrolyte changed the
>>>>>>>> cell was put back into operation as before with a
>>>>>>>> nice
>>>>>>>> recombination burn and
>>>>>>>> production of the sought after �pristine
>>>>>>>> water�.�������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������
>>>>>>>> �������
>>>>>>>> ��� After about an
>>>>>>>> hour of
>>>>>>>> operation the cell
>>>>>>>> went absolutely �nuts� with the temperature
>>>>>>>> rapidly climbing
>>>>>>>> to boiling point
>>>>>>>> and the current out of sight.�
>>>>>>>> When the
>>>>>>>> cell was opened we found a deep red sludge deposit
>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>> shorted the cell
>>>>>>>> plates.�� Our first
>>>>>>>> thought was that the
>>>>>>>> electrolytic action precipitated out the colloidal
>>>>>>>> minerals
>>>>>>>> which caused the
>>>>>>>> deposit found.�� The�
>>>>>>>> electrolyte was allowed
>>>>>>>> to settle out the
>>>>>>>> precipitate.�� After�
>>>>>>>> decanting off,� the clear electrolyte
>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>> returned to the
>>>>>>>> cell for another run. Again the cell operated
>>>>>>>> normally for
>>>>>>>> about an hour with a
>>>>>>>> normal recombination burn and recovery of the
>>>>>>>> water being
>>>>>>>> consumed by the cell
>>>>>>>> in the splitting action.�� Again
>>>>>>>> the cell
>>>>>>>> temperature and current mirrored the first
>>>>>>>> run.�
>>>>>>>> Again the cell contained the same amount of
>>>>>>>> sludge
>>>>>>>> residue.�� This process
>>>>>>>> was repeated ten (10) times
>>>>>>>> with exactly the same results.��
>>>>>>>> All of
>>>>>>>> the sludge was carefully dried and weighed on an
>>>>>>>> electronic
>>>>>>>> scale with a five
>>>>>>>> decimal
>>>>>>>> resolution.���������������������
>>>>>>>> The cell plates and all hardware were
>>>>>>>> weighed to
>>>>>>>> determine any loss of
>>>>>>>> mass that may contribute to the mass gain observed
>>>>>>>> in the
>>>>>>>> sludge.� Five hundred
>>>>>>>> (500) ml of the original
>>>>>>>> electrolyte solution used in the cell was vacuum
>>>>>>>> distilled to
>>>>>>>> determine the
>>>>>>>> exact mass of colloidal minerals
>>>>>>>> contained.�
>>>>>>>> When all factors were considered we came
>>>>>>>> out with a
>>>>>>>> mass gain of� 48 gm
>>>>>>>> which cannot be explained by
>>>>>>>> conventional
>>>>>>>> electrolysis.����������������������
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ��� After talking
>>>>>>>> to Dr.
>>>>>>>> Robert Bass and Hal
>>>>>>>> Fox I learned of a patent that has been filed on
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> transmutation of elements
>>>>>>>> in the cold fusion cell which is the process that
>>>>>>>> Dr. John
>>>>>>>> Bockris has been so
>>>>>>>> active in.�� Both Dr.
>>>>>>>> Bass and Hal Fox
>>>>>>>> stated that what I was observing is not the same
>>>>>>>> as the
>>>>>>>> transmutation observed
>>>>>>>> in the cold fusion cell since I have a overall
>>>>>>>> mass gain and
>>>>>>>> not a lateral
>>>>>>>> movement of elements in the periodic table toward
>>>>>>>> lighter
>>>>>>>> elements with a
>>>>>>>> resulting heat release.� This
>>>>>>>> unusual
>>>>>>>> cell operation has caused quite a reaction in the
>>>>>>>> scientific
>>>>>>>> community. �At this
>>>>>>>> time I have built a complete new cell
>>>>>>>> with every possible factor which could possibly
>>>>>>>> explain the
>>>>>>>> mass gain
>>>>>>>> considered and documented.� The
>>>>>>>> ten (10)
>>>>>>>> consecutive runs on the new cell will be completed
>>>>>>>> soon and a
>>>>>>>> report will be
>>>>>>>> forthcoming.�� What is
>>>>>>>> interesting about
>>>>>>>> this phenomenon is that when an eleventh run was
>>>>>>>> made with the
>>>>>>>> original
>>>>>>>> electrolyte exactly the same amount of residue was
>>>>>>>> recovered
>>>>>>>> as in the previous
>>>>>>>> ten
>>>>>>>> runs.�����������������������������������������������������������������������
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> �
>>>>>>>> Since
>>>>>>>> the same electrolyte is reused each time with only
>>>>>>>> distilled
>>>>>>>> water being added
>>>>>>>> to replace the volume lost by the removal of the
>>>>>>>> solids and
>>>>>>>> the water recovered
>>>>>>>> by the recombination burn we are hard pressed to
>>>>>>>> explain the
>>>>>>>> observed
>>>>>>>> phenomenon.���� The
>>>>>>>> electrolyte appears
>>>>>>>> stronger in mineral concentration and shows no
>>>>>>>> sign of
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> depletion.��������������������������������
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> �� After conferring
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> Joe Tyls we arrived at
>>>>>>>> the conclusion that the 77 colloidal minerals
>>>>>>>> contained in the
>>>>>>>> electrolyte
>>>>>>>> provide the atomic templates needed for the
>>>>>>>> monatomic hydrogen
>>>>>>>> (father of all
>>>>>>>> the elements) to replicate selected elements in
>>>>>>>> this exotic
>>>>>>>> mixture.� If you
>>>>>>>> subscribe to the theories of the late
>>>>>>>> Walter Russell and his explanation of the octave
>>>>>>>> based
>>>>>>>> periodic table with
>>>>>>>> monatonic hydrogen being what he describes as
>>>>>>>> hydrons
>>>>>>>> (precursor to hydrogen)
>>>>>>>> then it is possible for the replication of
>>>>>>>> elements directly
>>>>>>>> from energy input
>>>>>>>> alone.� This is how all
>>>>>>>> matter was
>>>>>>>> created in the beginning as described by
>>>>>>>> Schappeller in �The
>>>>>>>> Physics of the
>>>>>>>> Primary State of Matter�.��� I
>>>>>>>> will keep
>>>>>>>> all informed as to our progress and findings in
>>>>>>>> this very
>>>>>>>> intriguing venture.
>>>>>>>> �
>>>>>>>> Norman
>>>>>>>> Wootan
>>>>>>>> P.O.
>>>>>>>> Box 141049
>>>>>>>> Dallas,
>>>>>>>> TX 75214
>>>>>>>> (214)
>>>>>>>> 360-0865
>>>>>>>> �
>>>>>>>> �
>>>>>>>> CC:� Gene Mallove,
>>>>>>>> Infinite
>>>>>>>> Energy
>>>>>>>> CC:� Dr. John
>>>>>>>> Bockris, Texas
>>>>>>>> A/M
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 10/28/2018 1:01 AM,
>>>>>>>> Jakob Wall
>>>>>>>> wall_jakob@... <mailto:wall_jakob@...>
>>>>>>>> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> �
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks Norman,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> BTW, what is the most effective water split
>>>>>>>> device that
>>>>>>>> you ever put you hands on?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As HHO researcher for dekades you should be
>>>>>>>> able to point
>>>>>>>> us directly to the most effective known!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please be specific about reconstruction of the
>>>>>>>> same, since
>>>>>>>> we are in public domain it will become public
>>>>>>>> knowledge
>>>>>>>> and public good. I assume you intend nothing
>>>>>>>> else,rigth ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 10/27/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>>>>> <mailto:nwootan@...>
>>>>>>>> [EVGRAY]
>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's
>>>>>>>> Magnetic
>>>>>>>> Battery [3 Attachments]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To: "Bert Pool" <BertPool512@...> <mailto:BertPool512@...>,
>>>>>>>> "Bob
>>>>>>>> Paddock" <bob.paddock@...> <mailto:bob.paddock@...>,
>>>>>>>> "joel mcclain"
>>>>>>>> <joel_76670@...> <mailto:joel_76670@...>,
>>>>>>>> "Jon Gentry"
>>>>>>>> <jongen422@...> <mailto:jongen422@...>,
>>>>>>>> "Lane Wootan"
>>>>>>>> <lanewootan@...> <mailto:lanewootan@...>,
>>>>>>>> "Mbking42"
>>>>>>>> <mbking42@...> <mailto:mbking42@....>,
>>>>>>>> "Toby Grotz"
>>>>>>>> <wireless2@...> <mailto:wireless2@...>,
>>>>>>>> "Phil Rembold"
>>>>>>>> <prembold@...> <mailto:prembold@....>,
>>>>>>>> "Angel Alvarez"
>>>>>>>> <angel@...> <mailto:angel@...>,
>>>>>>>> "Fredric Fletcher"
>>>>>>>> <ffletcher@...> <mailto:ffletcher@...>,
>>>>>>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To understand the unwinding of a thread
>>>>>>>> leading
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> to Magnetic
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Generating Hydrogen and this Magnetic Battery,
>>>>>>>> we have
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> to dust off
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> our� 9th grade Chemistry Books!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.rexresearch.com/ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm�����
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I guess Dr.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ehrenhaft was the first to propose a Magnetic
>>>>>>>> Current.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (Jon
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Gentry, Your liquid metal vortex helix).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://revolution-green.com/can-electrolysis-powered-magnets/������
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ah! Ha!� more on Magnetic Currents!!!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446..html
>>>>>>>> <https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446.html>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.labmanager.com/white-papers-and-application-notes/2010/05/resistivity-conductivity-measurement-of-purified-water#.W9So9uJRc2w
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.askiitians.com/forums/Physical-Chemistry/19/19074/electro-che
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpotential
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.quora.com/Why-is-oxygen-molecule-paramagnetic-although-it-does-not-contain-any-unpaired-electron
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251580541_The_effect_of_magnetic_force_on_hydrogen_production_efficiency_in_water_electrolysis
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.physicscentral.com/experiment/physicsathome/electricwhirlpool.cfm
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.linux-host.org/energy/bmagpump.htm
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Now Jon Gentry you have your liquid metal pump
>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> that you can
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> make the helix tube Vortex!�
>>>>>>>> Ferricpetacarbonyl or
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> micro fine neo
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> powder to provide the liquid metal for pump
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> circuit.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Lots of reading here!���� Please think
>>>>>>>> about the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ramifications of
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> a Magnetic Current as proposed by Dr.
>>>>>>>> Ehrenhaft!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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