Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery

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BTW, The 1/4 cylindrical section magnets come from these IBM, Main Frame 
HD assemblies!� I salvaged down 100s of them during the 90s. Read Write 
head, linear servo modules. See:

On 11/10/2018 12:37 PM, bart woodard [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> I use a magnetic stirrer with distilled and wait for the ph to rise, 
> the results are immediate.
>
> https://hannainst.com/hi190m-1-magnetic-mini-stirrer.html
>
> Mini Magnetic Stirrer (115V) - HI190M-1 - Hanna Instruments 
> <https://hannainst.com/hi190m-1-magnetic-mini-stirrer.html>
> hannainst.com
> Compact. Lightweight. This mini magnetic stirrer with plastic cover 
> can stir up to 1 liter. Big power, small footprint. Perfect for any lab!
>
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> *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of 
> Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* November 10, 2018 12:34 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery [2 
> Attachments]
>
> No!� Bart, never got into that exotic element stuff!� Just 
> followed those that were!
>
> On 11/10/2018 10:42 AM, bart woodard [email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>> �
>>
>> Hey Norm , your life's experiences have been fruitful!! Congrats!!
>>
>> Have you ever played with table top combinations� such as thorium 
>> and fluoride or the molten salt combo?
>>
>> On a hobbyist� basis approach?
>>
>> Rossi likes to inject nickel/mag� powder so as I see to maintain 
>> his 1k output!.
>>
>>
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>> *From:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> on behalf of 
>> Norman Wootan [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] 
>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
>> *Sent:* November 9, 2018 3:12 PM
>> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>> *Subject:* Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery [2 
>> Attachments]
>> �
>> �
>>
>> Mick! To answer the rest of your questions:� In that ARC process 
>> you have to use carbon rods to yield the carbon monoxide & 
>> hydrogen.� (carbon source) (arc is heat source).
>>
>> Holy Water was interesting part of the Elemental Replication 
>> experiment. See:�
>>
>> *Elemental Replication ?*
>>
>> *�*
>>
>> ����� Around mid September I put together an electrolysis 
>> cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold Fusion Cell with the goal of 
>> exploring the possibilities of making what is termed �Pristine 
>> Water�.�� This water which will be used by Homeopaths will have 
>> had all memory or information removed.� This is accomplished by 
>> recombining monatomic hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated in a 
>> properly designed cell.� This is the ultimate in purity since this 
>> is water with conditions at the time of original creation.� 
>> �Wholy Water�is a term coined by my dear friend and fellow 
>> researcher Joe Tyls of Vancouver, BC.�� After several weeks of 
>> successful operation producing water that had all the earmarks of a 
>> true �pristine water� a fellow researcher suggested using an 
>> alternate electrolyte.�� A solution was selected that contained 
>> 77 colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the easiest 
>> assimilated into the body.�� With the electrolyte changed the 
>> cell was put back into operation as before with a nice recombination 
>> burn and production of the sought after �pristine water�.���
>>
>>
>> The water produced in the recombination burn of the H-H-O was 
>> collected from a silica glass condenser into a silica glass beaker 
>> for sampling.� When you flipped several CCs of the water into your 
>> mouth and tried to swallow, there was nothing there.� Hmmmm!� We 
>> immediately tested the viscosity and surface tension of the water and 
>> found it to be far below human blood which means that the water 
>> diffused directly into the capillaries around the tongue therefore 
>> nothing there to swallow.� The two Doctor who were there were 
>> amazed. � To prove the theory as to information carried by water, 
>> we collected a sample of several CCs into a plastic lab cup instead 
>> of the silica glass beaker. When you flipped the several CCs into 
>> your mouth you had to immediately spit it out for it was pure taste 
>> of plastic. This water picks up signature of anything it comes into 
>> contact with.� That is why the Homeopathic Doctors wanted it for 
>> making their tinctures.��� (signature of a healing agent). 
>> ��� We had all the necessary instruments to evaluate the 
>> Pristine water. See: � https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemorheology
>>
>> Hemorheology - Wikipedia <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemorheology>
>> en.m.wikipedia.org
>> Blood viscosity is a measure of the resistance of blood to flow. It 
>> can also be described as the thickness and stickiness of blood. This 
>> biophysical property makes it a critical determinant of friction 
>> against the vessel walls, the rate of venous return, the work 
>> required for the heart to pump blood, and how much oxygen is 
>> transported to tissues and organs.
>>
>> �� 
>> http://www.dynalenelabs.com/testing-services/thermal-testing/viscosity-rheology/?gclid=CjwKCAiA_ZTfBRBjEiwAN6YG4SdHu5bWZ9yHLBM9VNQ0TLl4tB1hOqMvR_dOEHNbGX6k_kDHHtb5xhoCgIgQAvD_BwE 
>> �������� https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tensiometer
>>
>> � https://hydramotion.com/en/technical/units-of-viscosity
>>
>> I made an offer to the Doctors present that a small unit for 
>> production of a liter/day of Pristine Water via complete unit built 
>> of quartz glass could be had for $5,000. Apparently they were not 
>> that enthused as we thought!� Oh! Well!
>>
>> I built numerous Pyramids of all sizes and the Orgone Accumulators 
>> and even the Cloud� Buster.�� The pyramid experiments were very 
>> interesting for real effects were shown.�� Never tested whether 
>> water would� break after treatment by either Orgone� or 
>> pyramid.��� The complete description of the 4 inch cell is in 
>> the Elemental replication Part Two. See:
>>
>>
>> Cell Description
>>
>> �
>>
>> ��� The electrolysis cell is designed to hold one (1) liter of 
>> electrolyte and operate at approximately 150 watt power level for the 
>> production of monatomic hydrogen and� monatomic oxygen which is 
>> burned back to pure water and collected in a glass condenser.� Cell 
>> container is schedule 40 PVC pipe section 6 inches long with bottom 
>> cap cemented on.� The top of the cell has a 4 inch female thread 
>> adapter cemented on to provide access to the interior via a male 
>> threaded plug which has the gas outlet port and two electrolyte fill 
>> ports to provide for replacement of lost electrolyte on the fly for 
>> continuos operation.� Positive and negative terminals are provided 
>> for external connection of the power supply leads to the internal 
>> anode- cathode stack.
>>
>> ��� The cell plate stack consist of 8 anode plates and 8 
>> cathode plates of the following sizes constructed from 316L stainless 
>> steel of 22 ga. thickness.
>>
>> 4 ea.� 3� X 3� plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 2.75�plates,� 2 ea. 
>> 3� X 2.5�plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 2.25� plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 
>> 2� plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 1.75� plates, and� 2 ea. 3� X 
>> 1.5� plates.� The plates are drilled and stacked with alternating 
>> anode and cathode plates spaced 1/8� apart which makes a 
>> cylindrical shaped array which fits nicely inside of the 4� ID 
>> PVC� cell container.� Electrical leads are braided copper of #10 
>> size which are covered by shrink tubing to cover conductive surface 
>> as they pass through the electrolyte to the cell terminal bolts.� 
>> All electrical surfaces other than the anode and cathode plates are 
>> carefully covered with PVC cement to prevent deterioration from 
>> electrolyte contact.��� Please note that if allowed to come 
>> into contact with �charged� surfaces monatomic hydrogen and 
>> monatonic oxygen will imediately form into their usual occuring state 
>> as diatomic H2 and O2 molecules.
>>
>> ��������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������� 
>>
>>
>> On 11/8/2018 4:29 PM, Mick [email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>> �
>>>
>>> Hi Norm,
>>>
>>> The catalysts are very interesting.� Iron Cobalt and Nickel all 
>>> ferromagnetic but at different spins.
>>>
>>> Correct me if I am wrong but based on reading your links a bingofuel 
>>> type reactor using tungsten electrodes that hopefully would last 
>>> much longer would likely produce OH rather than H and carbon 
>>> monoxide, what do you think?
>>>
>>> Also water is strange indeed in that a pyramid or orgone accumulator 
>>> changes it and these simple changes could make for water that breaks 
>>> up more easily.� I would love to know what results you 
>>> demonstrated with the totally juvenile memory free water you put 
>>> back together from the OH?�
>>>
>>> Sorry to hear about your neck fracture, I have a similar issue and 
>>> it is extremely painful and debilitating at times.
>>>
>>> Mick
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/7/2018 4:15 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>> �
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11/7/2018 6:06 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Jakob Wall! & all other researchers on here need to read the Whole 
>>>>> Story as to why I no longer have a research lab.� Jakob, I'm 
>>>>> sorry I did not reveal to you the BEST in my opinion of methods of 
>>>>> producing hydrogen gas for I felt it was a little too advanced and 
>>>>> difficult for you to experiment with.� See: 
>>>>> https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en .�� There is 
>>>>> a very long story behind this US Patent and a hell of a lot of 
>>>>> research. The quest for a very inexpensive method of splitting 
>>>>> water has been the Holy Grail of� cheap energy.�� In 
>>>>> addition to the research papers and links that I gave to you, here 
>>>>> are some more to dwell on.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.researchgate.net/post/At_what_temperature_water_will_decompose_to_Oxygen_and_Hydrogen
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.quora.com/Does-water-break-down-into-oxygen-and-hydrogen-at-high-temperatures-If-so-then-at-what-temperature
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.quora.com/How-much-water-can-you-split-into-hydrogen-and-oxygen-using-electrolysis-with-one-kilowatt-hour-of-electricity
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.redrok.com/hion96a1.htm
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.nature.com/articles/nplants201741�� Please read 
>>>>> carefully about the play of Nickel in this approach!
>>>>>
>>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_splitting
>>>>>
>>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water-gas_shift_reaction��� 
>>>>> I owned 77 acres of land in Eureka Springs, AR where they still 
>>>>> had the old water gas generator and gas storage facility.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decarboxylation
>>>>>
>>>>> https://phys.org/news/2018-02-uncovers-mechanism-water-splitting-catalyst.html
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/new-catalyst-could-split-water-cheaply/
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.technologyreview.com/s/512996/a-cheaper-way-to-make-hydrogen-from-water/
>>>>>
>>>>> "*SUPER STEAM* - A Tesla conference in Colorado surfaces new Super 
>>>>> Steam Technology (SST). Leonard Dorsett and friends from Texas 
>>>>> share strikingly similar views to Aquarian Agency Ltd. They have 
>>>>> technology which produces steam instantly at up to 3,000F without 
>>>>> a boiler and with 60% savings in fuel over traditional boilers. 
>>>>> Nitrogen rich, it can put out gasoline fires and treat many waste 
>>>>> problems. Of major importance to Aquarian, this nitrogen-rich 
>>>>> steam will help to produce heat and Aquastone at considerable 
>>>>> savings."
>>>>>
>>>>> For further information on Aquarian Agency Ltd. they can be 
>>>>> contacted at 38 Weir Rd, Wimbledon, London SW19 SUG, England or on 
>>>>> Internet at <aquarian ocign.ape.org>. *_SUPER STEAM TECHNOLOGY 
>>>>> PART 2_*
>>>>>
>>>>> Leonard Dorsett (PO Box 365, Grapevine, TX 76092) demonstrated his 
>>>>> Super Steam Technology at the 1994 International Tesla Symposium. 
>>>>> SST is a system for producing steam at any temperature or pressure 
>>>>> independently and instantly without the need for a conventional 
>>>>> boiler. It can instantly produce steam of any temperature from hot 
>>>>> water at 180F to super heated steam at over 3000F, while pressures 
>>>>> can vary from 1PSI to 3000PSI with airflow volumes of 1CFM up to 
>>>>> over 2000CFM. The system operates on propane, methane, petrol, 
>>>>> kerosene, methanol, diesel, hydrogen or just about anything else 
>>>>> that bums and converts virtually 100% of the fuel into usable 
>>>>> energy. (Note: The person in the picture is Norman Wootan of MRA fame)
>>>>>
>>>>> This all sounds great, but how does it work? The basis of the unit 
>>>>> is a specially designed open throat chamber with controlled air, 
>>>>> water and fuel interaction and a high voltage ignition resulting 
>>>>> in a direct fire process establishing thermal zones. This creates 
>>>>> a stoichiometric condition resulting in a full spectrum of steam 
>>>>> product. Now comes the interesting part At the increased 
>>>>> temperatures of steam, disassociation occurs. (Could this be a 
>>>>> clue to running cars on water??) The hydrogen and oxygen reacts 
>>>>> causing an exponential increase of energy resulting in super 
>>>>> heated steam. A similar superheat process was addressed by Tesla 
>>>>> in the October 12, 1911 publication of the "Engineering News Record".
>>>>>
>>>>> Applications of the SST system include a much more economical way 
>>>>> of producing electricity as no conventional boiler is needed. It 
>>>>> will also be an ideal low cost method for heating and cooling 
>>>>> homes and businesses. Small portable units can be developed for 
>>>>> home use, such as steam cleaning, and insect and ant removal, 
>>>>> without the dangers of insecticides. The system can also be used 
>>>>> for low cost purification of polluted water or sewerage and can 
>>>>> also convert salt water into drinking water both quickly and 
>>>>> inexpensively. Other uses are in fire fighting applications, ice 
>>>>> and snow removal from roads, etc. and sterilization and nurturing 
>>>>> of soil for agriculture where contamination has occurred.
>>>>>
>>>>> I had designed a method of making hydrogen from carbon & water 
>>>>> vapor using the Tesla Atomic Bombardment method of high frequency 
>>>>> inside of spherical inclosure like this experiments with the 
>>>>> carbon button lamp globes.�� After working with Leonard 
>>>>> Dorsett and his Super Steam Project, I chose to use the Water 
>>>>> Shift Process instead.� A side note is needed here!� The Super 
>>>>> Steam Process was a result of Professor Brown studying the method 
>>>>> the German's used for torpedo propulsion from WWI.� Acetylene 
>>>>> Gas and sea water produced an exothermic reaction generating Super 
>>>>> Steam. Brown built several reactors and tested them in the Tulsa 
>>>>> area to break (down hole) the parafin deposits to release crude oil.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Chemical equation for the reaction in the US Patent: 
>>>>> https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en
>>>>>
>>>>> *(6C + 12 H2O� = 6CO2 + 24H) *
>>>>>
>>>>> Hydrogen Reactor Development
>>>>>
>>>>> *�*
>>>>>
>>>>> Original concept design was a high voltage, high frequency 
>>>>> resonant device that utilized carbon water reaction with the 
>>>>> feedstock being in the form of graphite rod stock.� This unit 
>>>>> was designed for vehicle application and had too many limitations 
>>>>> to be used for mass hydrogen generation.� This type reactor is 
>>>>> very effective at hydrogen production since it targets the water 
>>>>> vapor molecule at MRI frequencies, which breaks the bonding, 
>>>>> allowing the carbon to latch onto the oxygen atoms leaving the 
>>>>> hydrogen free. This device was a closed system that used a simple 
>>>>> CO2/hydrogen separation stage that enabled the hydrogen to be feed 
>>>>> to an internal combustion engine.
>>>>>
>>>>> *�*
>>>>>
>>>>> *To allow for a sustained high mass flow of hydrogen gas output, 
>>>>> reactor design took on a radical change.� By incorporating the 
>>>>> Ranque/Hilsch, Counter Flow Implosion Vortex Principle, and 
>>>>> continuous high mass flow and gas separation were achieved in one 
>>>>> stage of operation.� Feedstock for this type reactor could be 
>>>>> any carbon-based material that could be put into a powder form.� 
>>>>> Highest carbon content of the feedstock provides for the most 
>>>>> efficient hydrogen production with the least undesirable output 
>>>>> material.*
>>>>>
>>>>> *�*
>>>>>
>>>>> *Super high temperature operating regime was chosen to be above 
>>>>> 2500 C for the purpose of producing atomic hydrogen in the 
>>>>> process.� The original reactor operated at temperatures that 
>>>>> easily gasified basic carbon into a plasma state (>10,000 F) more 
>>>>> easily allowing the production of hydrogen from the stoichiometric 
>>>>> feed stock ratios.*
>>>>>
>>>>> *
>>>>> *
>>>>>
>>>>> **
>>>>>
>>>>> I sold one of my Patents (Sonodiffuser) and paid for my 52 acres 
>>>>> of land and built a 5200 sq. Ft. lab the do the Prototype 
>>>>> machining and Proof of Concept testing for GAZPROM, Moscow in 
>>>>> 2005. A $1.2 million investment and they got the rights to the 
>>>>> process and I got the beautiful Research Lab all paid in full. I 
>>>>> was a self employed Contractor in Dallas working with HVAC, 
>>>>> Electrical and Electronics Maintenance so had to commute 170 
>>>>> miles/day and only had the week ends for my time! Having to mow 
>>>>> grass and maintane the 52 acres took all my time and when I 
>>>>> suffered a neck fracture in 2012, had to retire. Liquidated the 
>>>>> entire facility and sold it off. Moved to Dallas then to South 
>>>>> Louisiana where I now do a lot of relaxing and fishing!
>>>>>
>>>>> Hector and ALL, I did my time in the Barrel so now I will just 
>>>>> contribute to the dialog inorder to assist any research you may be 
>>>>> doing within my area of experitise!���� BTW! I have been 
>>>>> out to pasture for a long time now, so no BULL offense!� As 
>>>>> Hector knows, "It fits"! Lol
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes! Hector, I will wear my Border Patrol Hat when you come visit 
>>>>> from PR!� Lol
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/6/2018 8:52 PM, [email protected] 
>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>> �
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> By the way ... i can hit mega millions or the power ball� . i 
>>>>>> never will not have a lab i can work in,� that is worst than 
>>>>>> death , you have no idea of the technology that had being lost by 
>>>>>> the greedy fucking bastards fucking my life , they will loose all 
>>>>>> they have� "soon" because it had being engineered that way by 
>>>>>> accumulative bad karma, i have another lab they will never reach 
>>>>>> or be able to intercept or destroy and that will decide their 
>>>>>> fate ..... they will be fucked hard !
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (H)� �
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>, 
>>>>>> <mkjekyll@...> <mailto:mkjekyll@...> wrote :
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cmon Hector,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bad taste!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The man had a more serious lab than anyone else here and his work 
>>>>>> speaks for itself.� Maybe he has gained the fortune he desired 
>>>>>> through R&D and now shitting in tall cotton or gone fishing 
>>>>>> reaping the rewards of retirement. Notwithstanding is still kind 
>>>>>> enough to help point us in the right directions around here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "*Funny�I can look back on a life of achievement, on challenges 
>>>>>> met, competitors bested, obstacles overcome. I�ve accomplished 
>>>>>> more than most men, and without the use of my legs. What?What 
>>>>>> makes a man, Mr. Lebowski?"*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/6/2018 8:04 AM, arkresearch@... <mailto:arkresearch@...> 
>>>>>> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     �
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Dar n ! a Scientist inventor with no lab is like a breeding
>>>>>>>     bull with no balls !
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Balls Cow GIF - Balls Cow WingDangDoodle GIFs
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     ---In [email protected]
>>>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]>, <nwootan@...>
>>>>>>>     <mailto:nwootan@...> wrote :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Jacob! You asked me a question and I gave you my opinion!�
>>>>>>>     I'm totally retired at 80 years old and have no lab to
>>>>>>>     experiment in!� Your quote; I heard once a phrase from a
>>>>>>>     researcher who said. '' Slow down boy, we get paid for
>>>>>>>     llooking for solutions, not to find them!''�� That
>>>>>>>     certainly does not apply to me for I have shared all with
>>>>>>>     the folks on this site.� I find you statement very
>>>>>>>     interesting:� Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24
>>>>>>>     hours with usual amount of gas looks to me extremely
>>>>>>>     inefficient.�� ??????������� Care to share
>>>>>>>     where you saw the power of a permanent magnet being used
>>>>>>>     up!�� We all here on this site share what ever knowledge
>>>>>>>     we have on the various subjects not seeking any monetary
>>>>>>>     gain in any way! That is my approach!�� I just
>>>>>>>     contribute to the dialog when I run across something
>>>>>>>     interesting and think it will assist you guys!�� Norm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     On 11/3/2018 11:32 PM, Jakob Wall wall_jakob@...
>>>>>>>     <mailto:wall_jakob@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         �
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         Thanks Norman,
>>>>>>>>         But i actually asced for ''most efficient way'' to
>>>>>>>>         split water known to you!
>>>>>>>>         I realize there are a lot of different technigues to do
>>>>>>>>         just that.
>>>>>>>>         And yes i realize you could give me a rather complex
>>>>>>>>         answer. But instead i hope for a
>>>>>>>>         rather easy and reproductive answer since i am looking
>>>>>>>>         forward to solve my enerrgy
>>>>>>>>         problems i just can not live with the momentary (sad
>>>>>>>>         and very stupid energy situation)
>>>>>>>>         I am still not giving up becouse of a couple mistakes
>>>>>>>>         and misunderstandings.
>>>>>>>>         If i would be a car dealer and you would ask me for a
>>>>>>>>         most efficient car available on the market
>>>>>>>>         i would for sure not recommend a Prius, since there are
>>>>>>>>         a lot of cars with better fuel economie
>>>>>>>>         even without being a hybrid and without additional cost
>>>>>>>>         like batterys,e-motors and a bunch added ECU's
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours with
>>>>>>>>         usual amount of gas looks to me extremely
>>>>>>>>         inefficient.
>>>>>>>>         Also very expensive HHO-Garage products with output of
>>>>>>>>         1,6 ltr/min.
>>>>>>>>         Come on, 6 rusty nails and a old car batery does this
>>>>>>>>         job, no need to spend 1600 bucks on it.
>>>>>>>>         I honestly expected solide advise or a honest NO way
>>>>>>>>         boy, i just talking around.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. ''
>>>>>>>>         Slow down boy, we get paid for llooking for
>>>>>>>>         solutions, not to find them!'' That shoked me deeply
>>>>>>>>         and even if i get 150 years old, i will not forget it.
>>>>>>>>         Thats true treason on mankind and deciving the people.
>>>>>>>>         I really hope nobody on this forum only care
>>>>>>>>         about what he/she will be doing tomorrow.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         Jakob
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         --------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>         On Sun, 10/28/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>>>>>         <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery
>>>>>>>>         To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]>, "Bert Pool"
>>>>>>>>         <BertPool512@...> <mailto:BertPool512@...>, "Bob
>>>>>>>>         Paddock" <bob.paddock@...> <mailto:bob.paddock@...>,
>>>>>>>>         "joel mcclain" <joel_76670@...>
>>>>>>>>         <mailto:joel_76670@...>, "Jon Gentry" <jongen422@...>
>>>>>>>>         <mailto:jongen422@...>, "Mbking42" <mbking42@...>
>>>>>>>>         <mailto:mbking42@...>, "Toby Grotz" <wireless2@...>
>>>>>>>>         <mailto:wireless2@...>, "Phil Rembold" <prembold@...>
>>>>>>>>         <mailto:prembold@...>, "Angel Alvarez" <angel@...>
>>>>>>>>         <mailto:angel@...>, "Fredric Fletcher" <ffletcher@...>
>>>>>>>>         <mailto:ffletcher@...>
>>>>>>>>         Received: Sunday, October 28, 2018, 9:44 AM
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         �
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         Jacob!� That would be a rather complex answer
>>>>>>>>         but here is your
>>>>>>>>         starting point!
>>>>>>>>         https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct-thermomagnetic-splitting-of-water-.html���
>>>>>>>>         After having been heavily involved in the COLD FUSION
>>>>>>>>         Research
>>>>>>>>         back in the 70s and 80s I quickly settled o0n the best
>>>>>>>>         catalyst in
>>>>>>>>         electrolytic cells which is pure nickel. I still have
>>>>>>>>         the cell
>>>>>>>>         used in the Elemental Replication experiments.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm����
>>>>>>>>         The hidden
>>>>>>>>         part of this research is the use of a nickel component
>>>>>>>>         in the
>>>>>>>>         combustion chamber. Bosch developed 90,000V ignition
>>>>>>>>         systems to
>>>>>>>>         enable water injection in gas engine which high
>>>>>>>>         lighted the
>>>>>>>>         Graneau HV decomposition of water via HVDC
>>>>>>>>         discharge!
>>>>>>>>         My magnetic Battery when run as an electrolytic cell
>>>>>>>>         to produce
>>>>>>>>         hydrogen does produce a huge amount of hydrogen gas as
>>>>>>>>         shown by
>>>>>>>>         the Dr. Ehrenhaft document.� I would tell you to
>>>>>>>>         pursue the super
>>>>>>>>         high Tesla magnetic flux and nickel electrodes in an
>>>>>>>>         electrolytic
>>>>>>>>         cell.� The major obstacle to be overcome is the rapid
>>>>>>>>         collection
>>>>>>>>         of ions from solution by the 1.3 Tesla flux across a
>>>>>>>>         .020"
>>>>>>>>         mechanical gap which quickly takes the cell into a
>>>>>>>>         super-conduction mode which takes out the driving DC
>>>>>>>>         power supply.
>>>>>>>>         You can flush the magnetic gaps with distilled water
>>>>>>>>         and the gaps
>>>>>>>>         will show in the meg-ohm range then go to zero ohms
>>>>>>>>         after a short
>>>>>>>>         period of running, the gathered ions totally short
>>>>>>>>         cell. During
>>>>>>>>         the brief runs there is a huge amount of hydrogen gas
>>>>>>>>         produced�
>>>>>>>>         which I burned off as it was generated.� Much can be
>>>>>>>>         said about
>>>>>>>>         driving the cell with high frequencies as the Myers
>>>>>>>>         research
>>>>>>>>         showed.� Our friend up in Canada at George Wiseman,
>>>>>>>>         Eagle Research
>>>>>>>>         is running well ahead of the crowd on the production
>>>>>>>>         of H-H-O.
>>>>>>>>         Just for giggles!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         16 October
>>>>>>>>         1996
>>>>>>>>         To: Hal
>>>>>>>>         Fox,� Fusion Facts
>>>>>>>>         Elemental
>>>>>>>>         Replication ?
>>>>>>>>         �
>>>>>>>>         ����� Around mid
>>>>>>>>         September
>>>>>>>>         I put together an
>>>>>>>>         electrolysis cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold
>>>>>>>>         Fusion Cell
>>>>>>>>         with the goal of
>>>>>>>>         exploring the possibilities of making what is
>>>>>>>>         termed �Pristine
>>>>>>>>         Water�.�� This water
>>>>>>>>         which will be used by Homeopaths
>>>>>>>>         will have had all memory or information
>>>>>>>>         removed.� This is accomplished by
>>>>>>>>         recombining monatomic
>>>>>>>>         hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated in a
>>>>>>>>         properly
>>>>>>>>         designed cell.� This is
>>>>>>>>         the ultimate in purity since this is
>>>>>>>>         water with conditions at the time of original
>>>>>>>>         creation.� �Holly Water�is a term
>>>>>>>>         coined by my dear
>>>>>>>>         friend and fellow researcher Joe Tyls of
>>>>>>>>         Vancouver, BC.�� After several weeks of
>>>>>>>>         successful operation
>>>>>>>>         producing water that had all the earmarks of a
>>>>>>>>         true �pristine
>>>>>>>>         water� a fellow
>>>>>>>>         researcher suggested using an alternate
>>>>>>>>         electrolyte.�� A solution was selected
>>>>>>>>         that contained 77
>>>>>>>>         colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the
>>>>>>>>         easiest
>>>>>>>>         assimilated into the
>>>>>>>>         body.�� With the
>>>>>>>>         electrolyte changed the
>>>>>>>>         cell was put back into operation as before with a
>>>>>>>>         nice
>>>>>>>>         recombination burn and
>>>>>>>>         production of the sought after �pristine
>>>>>>>>         water�.�������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������
>>>>>>>>         �������
>>>>>>>>         ��� After about an
>>>>>>>>         hour of
>>>>>>>>         operation the cell
>>>>>>>>         went absolutely �nuts� with the temperature
>>>>>>>>         rapidly climbing
>>>>>>>>         to boiling point
>>>>>>>>         and the current out of sight.�
>>>>>>>>         When the
>>>>>>>>         cell was opened we found a deep red sludge deposit
>>>>>>>>         which
>>>>>>>>         shorted the cell
>>>>>>>>         plates.�� Our first
>>>>>>>>         thought was that the
>>>>>>>>         electrolytic action precipitated out the colloidal
>>>>>>>>         minerals
>>>>>>>>         which caused the
>>>>>>>>         deposit found.�� The�
>>>>>>>>         electrolyte was allowed
>>>>>>>>         to settle out the
>>>>>>>>         precipitate.�� After�
>>>>>>>>         decanting off,� the clear electrolyte
>>>>>>>>         was
>>>>>>>>         returned to the
>>>>>>>>         cell for another run. Again the cell operated
>>>>>>>>         normally for
>>>>>>>>         about an hour with a
>>>>>>>>         normal recombination burn and recovery of the
>>>>>>>>         water being
>>>>>>>>         consumed by the cell
>>>>>>>>         in the splitting action.�� Again
>>>>>>>>         the cell
>>>>>>>>         temperature and current mirrored the first
>>>>>>>>         run.�
>>>>>>>>         Again the cell contained the same amount of
>>>>>>>>         sludge
>>>>>>>>         residue.�� This process
>>>>>>>>         was repeated ten (10) times
>>>>>>>>         with exactly the same results.��
>>>>>>>>         All of
>>>>>>>>         the sludge was carefully dried and weighed on an
>>>>>>>>         electronic
>>>>>>>>         scale with a five
>>>>>>>>         decimal
>>>>>>>>         resolution.���������������������
>>>>>>>>         The cell plates and all hardware were
>>>>>>>>         weighed to
>>>>>>>>         determine any loss of
>>>>>>>>         mass that may contribute to the mass gain observed
>>>>>>>>         in the
>>>>>>>>         sludge.� Five hundred
>>>>>>>>         (500) ml of the original
>>>>>>>>         electrolyte solution used in the cell was vacuum
>>>>>>>>         distilled to
>>>>>>>>         determine the
>>>>>>>>         exact mass of colloidal minerals
>>>>>>>>         contained.�
>>>>>>>>         When all factors were considered we came
>>>>>>>>         out with a
>>>>>>>>         mass gain of� 48 gm
>>>>>>>>         which cannot be explained by
>>>>>>>>         conventional
>>>>>>>>         electrolysis.����������������������
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         ��� After talking
>>>>>>>>         to Dr.
>>>>>>>>         Robert Bass and Hal
>>>>>>>>         Fox I learned of a patent that has been filed on
>>>>>>>>         the
>>>>>>>>         transmutation of elements
>>>>>>>>         in the cold fusion cell which is the process that
>>>>>>>>         Dr. John
>>>>>>>>         Bockris has been so
>>>>>>>>         active in.�� Both Dr.
>>>>>>>>         Bass and Hal Fox
>>>>>>>>         stated that what I was observing is not the same
>>>>>>>>         as the
>>>>>>>>         transmutation observed
>>>>>>>>         in the cold fusion cell since I have a overall
>>>>>>>>         mass gain and
>>>>>>>>         not a lateral
>>>>>>>>         movement of elements in the periodic table toward
>>>>>>>>         lighter
>>>>>>>>         elements with a
>>>>>>>>         resulting heat release.� This
>>>>>>>>         unusual
>>>>>>>>         cell operation has caused quite a reaction in the
>>>>>>>>         scientific
>>>>>>>>         community. �At this
>>>>>>>>         time I have built a complete new cell
>>>>>>>>         with every possible factor which could possibly
>>>>>>>>         explain the
>>>>>>>>         mass gain
>>>>>>>>         considered and documented.� The
>>>>>>>>         ten (10)
>>>>>>>>         consecutive runs on the new cell will be completed
>>>>>>>>         soon and a
>>>>>>>>         report will be
>>>>>>>>         forthcoming.�� What is
>>>>>>>>         interesting about
>>>>>>>>         this phenomenon is that when an eleventh run was
>>>>>>>>         made with the
>>>>>>>>         original
>>>>>>>>         electrolyte exactly the same amount of residue was
>>>>>>>>         recovered
>>>>>>>>         as in the previous
>>>>>>>>         ten
>>>>>>>>         runs.�����������������������������������������������������������������������
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         �
>>>>>>>>         Since
>>>>>>>>         the same electrolyte is reused each time with only
>>>>>>>>         distilled
>>>>>>>>         water being added
>>>>>>>>         to replace the volume lost by the removal of the
>>>>>>>>         solids and
>>>>>>>>         the water recovered
>>>>>>>>         by the recombination burn we are hard pressed to
>>>>>>>>         explain the
>>>>>>>>         observed
>>>>>>>>         phenomenon.���� The
>>>>>>>>         electrolyte appears
>>>>>>>>         stronger in mineral concentration and shows no
>>>>>>>>         sign of
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         depletion.��������������������������������
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         �� After conferring
>>>>>>>>         with
>>>>>>>>         Joe Tyls we arrived at
>>>>>>>>         the conclusion that the 77 colloidal minerals
>>>>>>>>         contained in the
>>>>>>>>         electrolyte
>>>>>>>>         provide the atomic templates needed for the
>>>>>>>>         monatomic hydrogen
>>>>>>>>         (father of all
>>>>>>>>         the elements) to replicate selected elements in
>>>>>>>>         this exotic
>>>>>>>>         mixture.� If you
>>>>>>>>         subscribe to the theories of the late
>>>>>>>>         Walter Russell and his explanation of the octave
>>>>>>>>         based
>>>>>>>>         periodic table with
>>>>>>>>         monatonic hydrogen being what he describes as
>>>>>>>>         hydrons
>>>>>>>>         (precursor to hydrogen)
>>>>>>>>         then it is possible for the replication of
>>>>>>>>         elements directly
>>>>>>>>         from energy input
>>>>>>>>         alone.� This is how all
>>>>>>>>         matter was
>>>>>>>>         created in the beginning as described by
>>>>>>>>         Schappeller in �The
>>>>>>>>         Physics of the
>>>>>>>>         Primary State of Matter�.��� I
>>>>>>>>         will keep
>>>>>>>>         all informed as to our progress and findings in
>>>>>>>>         this very
>>>>>>>>         intriguing venture.
>>>>>>>>         �
>>>>>>>>         Norman
>>>>>>>>         Wootan
>>>>>>>>         P.O.
>>>>>>>>         Box 141049
>>>>>>>>         Dallas,
>>>>>>>>         TX 75214
>>>>>>>>         (214)
>>>>>>>>         360-0865
>>>>>>>>         �
>>>>>>>>         �
>>>>>>>>         CC:� Gene Mallove,
>>>>>>>>         Infinite
>>>>>>>>         Energy
>>>>>>>>         CC:� Dr. John
>>>>>>>>         Bockris, Texas
>>>>>>>>         A/M
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         On 10/28/2018 1:01 AM,
>>>>>>>>         Jakob Wall
>>>>>>>>         wall_jakob@... <mailto:wall_jakob@...>
>>>>>>>>         [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         �
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         Thanks Norman,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         BTW, what is the most effective water split
>>>>>>>>         device that
>>>>>>>>         you ever put you hands on?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         As HHO researcher for dekades you should be
>>>>>>>>         able to point
>>>>>>>>         us directly to the most effective known!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         Please be specific about reconstruction of the
>>>>>>>>         same, since
>>>>>>>>         we are in public domain it will become public
>>>>>>>>         knowledge
>>>>>>>>         and public good. I assume you intend nothing
>>>>>>>>         else,rigth ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         --------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         On Sat, 10/27/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>>>>>         <mailto:nwootan@...>
>>>>>>>>         [EVGRAY]
>>>>>>>>         <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>         wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's
>>>>>>>>         Magnetic
>>>>>>>>         Battery [3 Attachments]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         To: "Bert Pool" <BertPool512@...> <mailto:BertPool512@...>,
>>>>>>>>         "Bob
>>>>>>>>         Paddock" <bob.paddock@...> <mailto:bob.paddock@...>,
>>>>>>>>         "joel mcclain"
>>>>>>>>         <joel_76670@...> <mailto:joel_76670@...>,
>>>>>>>>         "Jon Gentry"
>>>>>>>>         <jongen422@...> <mailto:jongen422@...>,
>>>>>>>>         "Lane Wootan"
>>>>>>>>         <lanewootan@...> <mailto:lanewootan@...>,
>>>>>>>>         "Mbking42"
>>>>>>>>         <mbking42@...> <mailto:mbking42@...>,
>>>>>>>>         "Toby Grotz"
>>>>>>>>         <wireless2@...> <mailto:wireless2@...>,
>>>>>>>>         "Phil Rembold"
>>>>>>>>         <prembold@...> <mailto:prembold@...>,
>>>>>>>>         "Angel Alvarez"
>>>>>>>>         <angel@...> <mailto:angel@...>,
>>>>>>>>         "Fredric Fletcher"
>>>>>>>>         <ffletcher@...> <mailto:ffletcher@...>,
>>>>>>>>         [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         To understand the unwinding of a thread
>>>>>>>>         leading
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         to Magnetic
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         Generating Hydrogen and this Magnetic Battery,
>>>>>>>>         we have
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         to dust off
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         our� 9th grade Chemistry Books!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         http://www.rexresearch.com/ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm�����
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         I guess Dr.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         Ehrenhaft was the first to propose a Magnetic
>>>>>>>>         Current.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         (Jon
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         Gentry, Your liquid metal vortex helix).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         https://revolution-green.com/can-electrolysis-powered-magnets/������
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         Ah! Ha!� more on Magnetic Currents!!!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         https://www.labmanager.com/white-papers-and-application-notes/2010/05/resistivity-conductivity-measurement-of-purified-water#.W9So9uJRc2w
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         https://www.askiitians.com/forums/Physical-Chemistry/19/19074/electro-che
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpotential
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         https://www.quora.com/Why-is-oxygen-molecule-paramagnetic-although-it-does-not-contain-any-unpaired-electron
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251580541_The_effect_of_magnetic_force_on_hydrogen_production_efficiency_in_water_electrolysis
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         http://www.physicscentral.com/experiment/physicsathome/electricwhirlpool.cfm
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         http://www.linux-host.org/energy/bmagpump.htm
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         Now Jon Gentry you have your liquid metal pump
>>>>>>>>         so
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         that you can
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         make the helix tube Vortex!�
>>>>>>>>         Ferricpetacarbonyl or
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         micro fine neo
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         powder to provide the liquid metal for pump
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         circuit.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         Lots of reading here!���� Please think
>>>>>>>>         about the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         ramifications of
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         a Magnetic Current as proposed by Dr.
>>>>>>>>         Ehrenhaft!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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Subject Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery
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