Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery

92 messages · 2018-11-07T06:15:56-06:00 → 2018-11-21T10:59:53+00:00
Bart,

Sorry meant to say saponins


On 11/10/2018 3:44 PM, bart woodard [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> Mick,
>
>    I use all glass(general) in all of of my process , from start to
> consumption.
>
> As far as carcinogenics go, I roll with it mostly. As the body flushes
> it out at this size.dark field analyses.
>
> You can check ec
>
> As the parts per billion are not inductive to any negative value in
> compilation.
>
> Under any lab results   the values go off the charts so I have been
> mostly doing
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark-field_microscopy
>
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark-field_microscopy>
> 	
> Dark-field microscopy - Wikipedia
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark-field_microscopy>
> en.wikipedia.org
> Dark-field microscopy is a very simple yet effective technique and
> well suited for uses involving live and unstained biological samples,
> such as a smear from a tissue culture or individual, water-borne,
> single-celled organisms. Considering the simplicity of the setup, the
> quality of images obtained from this technique is impressive.
>
> at home under my own microscope, checking positive values with
> negative values in comparisons. been doing this for years now.
>
> Even with some people consider this bull , it does have a valid
> outcome with exercise of repetitive work.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mg21897IW_4
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mg21897IW_4>
> 	
> Live Blood Analysis Dark Field Microscopy explained
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mg21897IW_4>
> www.youtube.com
> Dark Field Microscopy Live Blood Analysis explained like never before
>
> Any values that gets through are of good results as proven by
> results.  When we refect positive intent we get the same.
>
> As far as deposits collected at the bottom of you vessel, it could be
> gold or copper pending on colour .  or sludge build of a dominated
> mineral.
>
> Mounatous  regions can have anything as plates push everything.  All
> water tables run every and anywhere. It can be a good coloidal value.
>
> Certain plants thrive on different minerals, check the vegitation
> results in your area.
>
>          sapogens ?
>
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapogenin
>
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapogenin>
> 	
> Sapogenin - Wikipedia <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapogenin>
> en.wikipedia.org
> Sapogenins are the aglycones, or non-saccharide, portions of the
> family of natural products known as saponins.Sapogenins contain
> steroid or other triterpene frameworks as their key organic feature.
> For example, steroidal sapogenins such as tiggenin, neogitogenin, and
> tokorogenin have been isolated from the tubers of Chlorophytum
> arundinaceum. Some steroidal sapogenins can serve as a practical ...
>
> I am recently looking at starting what is called a micro growing
> operation for cannabis here in Canada.
>
> The prof is here because he feels we can play with research regarding
> the enhancement of cbd and the thc levels regarding the dna enhancements.
>
> So I have been looking to purchase a farm. The returns on a yearly
> basis are impressive  1.5  4.5 mill. based on 600 kilos.
>
> Open for offers for any one.
>
> As far as Norms water device , it is a soft application making use of
> the nonferrite mags. Good stuff!
>
> It creates a gentle enhancement on charges all arround for organs ,
> skin , hair, eyes etc.
>
>
> Hopefully some value for you!
>
> Bart
>
>
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> *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of
> Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* November 10, 2018 4:23 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery [1
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>  
>  
>
> Bart,
>
> Tell your friend-Even if ethically swayed by grant money, professors
> can be human too, or maybe long ago they once were.
>
> Is there any procedure you utilize to determine if the ghost elements
> are carcinogenic or not?
>
> What is the best material for the magnetic stirrer? 
>
> I think many are polyethylene coated due to it's inert nature.
>
> I recently acquired this water distiller. I have seen these used in
> two places with tap water in Southern California and the crap on the
> bottom stunk and was brown and crusty.  When I use the distiller with
> my processed water the bottom of the unit is clean but for a few drop
> of something I have been collecting in a glass.   We live in Oregon in
> the mountains not near any old mines or chemical sites so the water is
> pretty pristine except for a high concentration of minerals and manganese.
>
> The stuff left in the distiller has a flowery smell so I think it make
> be sapogens from plants or oils from minerals, maybe just info fields
> trying to recombine.
>
>
> On 11/10/2018 12:31 PM, bart woodard [email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>  
>>
>> Hi Mick,
>>
>>   Well needless to say... you are charged lol!
>>
>> All water from any where has different values with different mineral
>> combinations.
>>
>> So whether its been RO then distilled it will still continue with
>> carrying its trace like (ghost)  elements. You are only looking at
>> ppm or parts per million.
>>
>> Not parts per billion and so on. Some say parts per google!
>>
>> Unfortunately most will be carcinogenic due to its weight like or
>> charges needed to extend itself  tho not all will.
>>
>> Even so with the stirrer the vortex will create an implosion
>> enhancing the ghost like values remaining.
>>
>> The molecule will become broken down to several sizes smaller , lets
>> say 5 times approximately or less or greater than.
>>
>> The four principles of play come in effect.
>>
>> *The Four Fundamental Forces and their strengths*
>>
>>   * Gravitational Force – Weakest force; but infinite range. ( Not
>>     part of standard model)
>>   * Weak Nuclear Force – Next weakest; but short range.
>>   * Electromagnetic Force – Stronger, with infinite range.
>>   * Strong Nuclear Force – Strongest; but short range.
>>
>> With in the molecule it has a characteristic tendency so as not to
>> enhance its ph factor with straight on electrical simulated charges.
>>
>> We can not for now mimic the frequency  water likes to evolve to
>> sustain itself at keeping it at a stabilized value with in.
>>
>> So circuit wise or electronically it is only a short life the ph may
>> be increased . Tho I have not ventured out lately.
>>
>> Its been several years for me so forgive my sloppy answers on
>> recalling the research done.
>>
>> Magnetic values are best used for the best overall out come. The
>> molecule stabilizes itself after a would be spike ( Brownian Motion).
>>
>> Distilled that's  acidic at 6.2  can be elevated to 7.4 after it hits
>> 8.5 or so give or take.
>>
>> It can stabilize itself to 7.4 which is where I like it to be for
>> consumption.
>>
>> Tap water, well water etc will go to ammonia like, say right up to
>> 14- 15- ph.
>>
>> Good for paint stripping lol.
>>
>> So distilled @ 0 ppm  will go to 3ppm or more as well as the ph increase.
>>
>> I do not want to use RO as its values can be anywhere.
>>
>> The clustering effect has all the values as in one make up volume.
>>
>> So you get it all , all charges , but mostly enhanced as our body
>> only keeps the larger values and discharges the unwanted ones .
>>
>> We discharge positive and maintain negative values.
>>
>> In another words you get it all good with the bad. But still better
>> than a too high ph value as this can burn your cilia and enzymes
>>
>> with all and good and bad acids in digestion values.
>>
>> Our mitochondria will only accept values approx one micron , so water
>> at five or more times smaller hydrates our cells more easily.
>>
>> Thus delivering any value needed to cells requiring assistance.
>>
>> Hope this has some value some-wheres lol
>>
>> As I said its been a while.
>>
>> Bart
>>
>> PS  A prof just showed up while I am typing this laughing at me .
>>
>>         He says to add that the sun feels symbiotic to earth as it
>> senses we are out of sync so its releasing more flares.
>>
>> I told him its the hydrogen intent! lol
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> *From:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> on behalf of
>> Mick [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
>> *Sent:* November 10 
>>  
>>
>> Bart,
>>
>> Your information including on your cat is very interesting.  I have
>> been using distilled water that is first softened and then RO  then
>> distilled beginning from my well.   It has a similar "drying" effect
>> as norms wholly water though not as pronounced.
>>
>> Could you please provide more information on your experiments
>> concerning distilled water and using the magnetic stirrer and how
>> that alkalizes the water?   The NMR and parahydrogen post if very
>> long winded so difficult for me to get the gist of your presentation.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Mick
>>
>>
>> On 11/10/2018 10:37 AM, bart woodard [email protected]
>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>  
>>>
>>> I use a magnetic stirrer with distilled and wait for the ph to rise,
>>> the results are immediate.
>>>
>>> https://hannainst.com/hi190m-1-magnetic-mini-stirrer.html
>>>
>>> Mini Magnetic Stirrer (115V) - HI190M-1 - Hanna Instruments
>>> <https://hannainst.com/hi190m-1-magnetic-mini-stirrer.html>
>>> hannainst.com
>>> Compact. Lightweight. This mini magnetic stirrer with plastic cover
>>> can stir up to 1 liter. Big power, small footprint. Perfect for any lab!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> *From:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> on behalf
>>> of Norman Wootan [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
>>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>> *Sent:* November 10, 2018 12:34 PM
>>> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>> *Subject:* Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery [2
>>> Attachments]
>>>  
>>>  
>>>
>>> No!� Bart, never got into that exotic element stuff!� Just
>>> followed those that were!
>>>
>>> On 11/10/2018 10:42 AM, bart woodard [email protected]
>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>> �
>>>>
>>>> Hey Norm , your life's experiences have been fruitful!! Congrats!!
>>>>
>>>> Have you ever played with table top combinations� such as thorium
>>>> and fluoride or the molten salt combo?
>>>>
>>>> On a hobbyist� basis approach?
>>>>
>>>> Rossi likes to inject nickel/mag� powder so as I see to maintain
>>>> his 1k output!.
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> *From:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> on behalf
>>>> of Norman Wootan [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
>>>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>> *Sent:* November 9, 2018 3:12 PM
>>>> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery [2
>>>> Attachments]
>>>> �
>>>> �
>>>>
>>>> Mick! To answer the rest of your questions:� In that ARC process
>>>> you have to use carbon rods to yield the carbon monoxide &
>>>> hydrogen.� (carbon source) (arc is heat source).
>>>>
>>>> Holy Water was interesting part of the Elemental Replication
>>>> experiment. See:�
>>>>
>>>> *Elemental Replication ?*
>>>>
>>>> *�*
>>>>
>>>> ����� Around mid September I put together an electrolysis
>>>> cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold Fusion Cell with the goal of
>>>> exploring the possibilities of making what is termed �Pristine
>>>> Water�.�� This water which will be used by Homeopaths will
>>>> have had all memory or information removed.� This is accomplished
>>>> by recombining monatomic hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated
>>>> in a properly designed cell.� This is the ultimate in purity
>>>> since this is water with conditions at the time of original
>>>> creation.� �Wholy Water�is a term coined by my dear friend
>>>> and fellow researcher Joe Tyls of Vancouver, BC.�� After
>>>> several weeks of successful operation producing water that had all
>>>> the earmarks of a true �pristine water� a fellow researcher
>>>> suggested using an alternate electrolyte.�� A solution was
>>>> selected that contained 77 colloidal minerals as found in plants
>>>> that are the easiest assimilated into the body.�� With the
>>>> electrolyte changed the cell was put back into operation as before
>>>> with a nice recombination burn and production of the sought after
>>>> �pristine water�.���
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The water produced in the recombination burn of the H-H-O was
>>>> collected from a silica glass condenser into a silica glass beaker
>>>> for sampling.� When you flipped several CCs of the water into
>>>> your mouth and tried to swallow, there was nothing there.�
>>>> Hmmmm!� We immediately tested the viscosity and surface tension
>>>> of the water and found it to be far below human blood which means
>>>> that the water diffused directly into the capillaries around the
>>>> tongue therefore nothing there to swallow.� The two Doctor who
>>>> were there were amazed. � To prove the theory as to information
>>>> carried by water, we collected a sample of several CCs into a
>>>> plastic lab cup instead of the silica glass beaker. When you
>>>> flipped the several CCs into your mouth you had to immediately spit
>>>> it out for it was pure taste of plastic. This water picks up
>>>> signature of anything it comes into contact with.� That is why
>>>> the Homeopathic Doctors wanted it for making their
>>>> tinctures.��� (signature of a healing agent). ��� We
>>>> had all the necessary instruments to evaluate the Pristine water.
>>>> See: � https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemorheology
>>>> <https://en..m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemorheology>
>>>>
>>>> Hemorheology - Wikipedia <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemorheology>
>>>> en.m.wikipedia.org
>>>> Blood viscosity is a measure of the resistance of blood to flow. It
>>>> can also be described as the thickness and stickiness of blood.
>>>> This biophysical property makes it a critical determinant of
>>>> friction against the vessel walls, the rate of venous return, the
>>>> work required for the heart to pump blood, and how much oxygen is
>>>> transported to tissues and organs.
>>>>
>>>> ��
>>>> http://www.dynalenelabs.com/testing-services/thermal-testing/viscosity-rheology/?gclid=CjwKCAiA_ZTfBRBjEiwAN6YG4SdHu5bWZ9yHLBM9VNQ0TLl4tB1hOqMvR_dOEHNbGX6k_kDHHtb5xhoCgIgQAvD_BwE
>>>> ��������
>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tensiometer
>>>> <https://en..m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tensiometer>
>>>>
>>>> � https://hydramotion.com/en/technical/units-of-viscosity
>>>>
>>>> I made an offer to the Doctors present that a small unit for
>>>> production of a liter/day of Pristine Water via complete unit built
>>>> of quartz glass could be had for $5,000. Apparently they were not
>>>> that enthused as we thought!� Oh! Well!
>>>>
>>>> I built numerous Pyramids of all sizes and the Orgone Accumulators
>>>> and even the Cloud� Buster.�� The pyramid experiments were
>>>> very interesting for real effects were shown.�� Never tested
>>>> whether water would� break after treatment by either Orgone� or
>>>> pyramid.��� The complete description of the 4 inch cell is in
>>>> the Elemental replication Part Two. See:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cell Description
>>>>
>>>> �
>>>>
>>>> ��� The electrolysis cell is designed to hold one (1) liter
>>>> of electrolyte and operate at approximately 150 watt power level
>>>> for the production of monatomic hydrogen and� monatomic oxygen
>>>> which is burned back to pure water and collected in a glass
>>>> condenser.� Cell container is schedule 40 PVC pipe section 6
>>>> inches long with bottom cap cemented on.� The top of the cell has
>>>> a 4 inch female thread adapter cemented on to provide access to the
>>>> interior via a male threaded plug which has the gas outlet port and
>>>> two electrolyte fill ports to provide for replacement of lost
>>>> electrolyte on the fly for continuos operation.� Positive and
>>>> negative terminals are provided for external connection of the
>>>> power supply leads to the internal anode- cathode stack.
>>>>
>>>> ��� The cell plate stack consist of 8 anode plates and 8
>>>> cathode plates of the following sizes constructed from 316L
>>>> stainless steel of 22 ga. thickness.
>>>>
>>>> 4 ea.� 3� X 3� plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 2.75�plates,� 2
>>>> ea. 3� X 2.5�plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 2.25� plates,� 2 ea.
>>>> 3� X 2� plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 1.75� plates, and� 2 ea.
>>>> 3� X 1.5� plates.� The plates are drilled and stacked with
>>>> alternating anode and cathode plates spaced 1/8� apart which
>>>> makes a cylindrical shaped array which fits nicely inside of the
>>>> 4� ID PVC� cell container.� Electrical leads are braided
>>>> copper of #10 size which are covered by shrink tubing to cover
>>>> conductive surface as they pass through the electrolyte to the cell
>>>> terminal bolts.� All electrical surfaces other than the anode and
>>>> cathode plates are carefully covered with PVC cement to prevent
>>>> deterioration from electrolyte contact.��� Please note that
>>>> if allowed to come into contact with �charged� surfaces
>>>> monatomic hydrogen and monatonic oxygen will imediately form into
>>>> their usual occuring state as diatomic H2 and O2 molecules.
>>>>
>>>> ���������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11/8/2018 4:29 PM, Mick [email protected]
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>> �
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Norm,
>>>>>
>>>>> The catalysts are very interesting.� Iron Cobalt and Nickel all
>>>>> ferromagnetic but at different spins.
>>>>>
>>>>> Correct me if I am wrong but based on reading your links a
>>>>> bingofuel type reactor using tungsten electrodes that hopefully
>>>>> would last much longer would likely produce OH rather than H and
>>>>> carbon monoxide, what do you think?
>>>>>
>>>>> Also water is strange indeed in that a pyramid or orgone
>>>>> accumulator changes it and these simple changes could make for
>>>>> water that breaks up more easily.� I would love to know what
>>>>> results you demonstrated with the totally juvenile memory free
>>>>> water you put back together from the OH?�
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry to hear about your neck fracture, I have a similar issue and
>>>>> it is extremely painful and debilitating at times.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mick
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/7/2018 4:15 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected]
>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>> �
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/7/2018 6:06 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jakob Wall! & all other researchers on here need to read the
>>>>>>> Whole Story as to why I no longer have a research lab.� Jakob,
>>>>>>> I'm sorry I did not reveal to you the BEST in my opinion of
>>>>>>> methods of producing hydrogen gas for I felt it was a little too
>>>>>>> advanced and difficult for you to experiment with.� See:
>>>>>>> https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en .�� There
>>>>>>> is a very long story behind this US Patent and a hell of a lot
>>>>>>> of research. The quest for a very inexpensive method of
>>>>>>> splitting water has been the Holy Grail of� cheap
>>>>>>> energy.�� In addition to the research papers and links that
>>>>>>> I gave to you, here are some more to dwell on.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.researchgate.net/post/At_what_temperature_water_will_decompose_to_Oxygen_and_Hydrogen
>>>>>>> <https://www..researchgate.net/post/At_what_temperature_water_will_decompose_to_Oxygen_and_Hydrogen>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.quora.com/Does-water-break-down-into-oxygen-and-hydrogen-at-high-temperatures-If-so-then-at-what-temperature
>>>>>>> <https://www..quora.com/Does-water-break-down-into-oxygen-and-hydrogen-at-high-temperatures-If-so-then-at-what-temperature>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.quora.com/How-much-water-can-you-split-into-hydrogen-and-oxygen-using-electrolysis-with-one-kilowatt-hour-of-electricity
>>>>>>> <https://www..quora.com/How-much-water-can-you-split-into-hydrogen-and-oxygen-using-electrolysis-with-one-kilowatt-hour-of-electricity>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.redrok.com/hion96a1.htm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.nature.com/articles/nplants201741
>>>>>>> <https://www..nature.com/articles/nplants201741>�� Please
>>>>>>> read carefully about the play of Nickel in this approach!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_splitting
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water-gas_shift_reaction���
>>>>>>> I owned 77 acres of land in Eureka Springs, AR where they still
>>>>>>> had the old water gas generator and gas storage facility.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decarboxylation
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://phys.org/news/2018-02-uncovers-mechanism-water-splitting-catalyst.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/new-catalyst-could-split-water-cheaply/
>>>>>>> <https://www..scientificamerican.com/article/new-catalyst-could-split-water-cheaply/>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.technologyreview.com/s/512996/a-cheaper-way-to-make-hydrogen-from-water/
>>>>>>> <https://www..technologyreview.com/s/512996/a-cheaper-way-to-make-hydrogen-from-water/>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "*SUPER STEAM* - A Tesla conference in Colorado surfaces new
>>>>>>> Super Steam Technology (SST). Leonard Dorsett and friends from
>>>>>>> Texas share strikingly similar views to Aquarian Agency Ltd.
>>>>>>> They have technology which produces steam instantly at up to
>>>>>>> 3,000F without a boiler and with 60% savings in fuel over
>>>>>>> traditional boilers. Nitrogen rich, it can put out gasoline
>>>>>>> fires and treat many waste problems. Of major importance to
>>>>>>> Aquarian, this nitrogen-rich steam will help to produce heat and
>>>>>>> Aquastone at considerable savings."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For further information on Aquarian Agency Ltd. they can be
>>>>>>> contacted at 38 Weir Rd, Wimbledon, London SW19 SUG, England or
>>>>>>> on Internet at <aquarian ocign.ape.org>. *_SUPER STEAM
>>>>>>> TECHNOLOGY PART 2_*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Leonard Dorsett (PO Box 365, Grapevine, TX 76092) demonstrated
>>>>>>> his Super Steam Technology at the 1994 International Tesla
>>>>>>> Symposium. SST is a system for producing steam at any
>>>>>>> temperature or pressure independently and instantly without the
>>>>>>> need for a conventional boiler. It can instantly produce steam
>>>>>>> of any temperature from hot water at 180F to super heated steam
>>>>>>> at over 3000F, while pressures can vary from 1PSI to 3000PSI
>>>>>>> with airflow volumes of 1CFM up to over 2000CFM. The system
>>>>>>> operates on propane, methane, petrol, kerosene, methanol,
>>>>>>> diesel, hydrogen or just about anything else that bums and
>>>>>>> converts virtually 100% of the fuel into usable energy. (Note:
>>>>>>> The person in the picture is Norman Wootan of MRA fame)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This all sounds great, but how does it work? The basis of the
>>>>>>> unit is a specially designed open throat chamber with controlled
>>>>>>> air, water and fuel interaction and a high voltage ignition
>>>>>>> resulting in a direct fire process establishing thermal zones.
>>>>>>> This creates a stoichiometric condition resulting in a full
>>>>>>> spectrum of steam product. Now comes the interesting part At the
>>>>>>> increased temperatures of steam, disassociation occurs. (Could
>>>>>>> this be a clue to running cars on water??) The hydrogen and
>>>>>>> oxygen reacts causing an exponential increase of energy
>>>>>>> resulting in super heated steam. A similar superheat process was
>>>>>>> addressed by Tesla in the October 12, 1911 publication of the
>>>>>>> "Engineering News Record".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Applications of the SST system include a much more economical
>>>>>>> way of producing electricity as no conventional boiler is
>>>>>>> needed. It will also be an ideal low cost method for heating and
>>>>>>> cooling homes and businesses. Small portable units can be
>>>>>>> developed for home use, such as steam cleaning, and insect and
>>>>>>> ant removal, without the dangers of insecticides. The system can
>>>>>>> also be used for low cost purification of polluted water or
>>>>>>> sewerage and can also convert salt water into drinking water
>>>>>>> both quickly and inexpensively. Other uses are in fire fighting
>>>>>>> applications, ice and snow removal from roads, etc. and
>>>>>>> sterilization and nurturing of soil for agriculture where
>>>>>>> contamination has occurred.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I had designed a method of making hydrogen from carbon & water
>>>>>>> vapor using the Tesla Atomic Bombardment method of high
>>>>>>> frequency inside of spherical inclosure like this experiments
>>>>>>> with the carbon button lamp globes.�� After working with
>>>>>>> Leonard Dorsett and his Super Steam Project, I chose to use the
>>>>>>> Water Shift Process instead.� A side note is needed here!�
>>>>>>> The Super Steam Process was a result of Professor Brown studying
>>>>>>> the method the German's used for torpedo propulsion from WWI.�
>>>>>>> Acetylene Gas and sea water produced an exothermic reaction
>>>>>>> generating Super Steam. Brown built several reactors and tested
>>>>>>> them in the Tulsa area to break (down hole) the parafin deposits
>>>>>>> to release crude oil.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Chemical equation for the reaction in the US Patent:
>>>>>>> https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *(6C + 12 H2O� = 6CO2 + 24H) *
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hydrogen Reactor Development
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *�*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Original concept design was a high voltage, high frequency
>>>>>>> resonant device that utilized carbon water reaction with the
>>>>>>> feedstock being in the form of graphite rod stock.� This unit
>>>>>>> was designed for vehicle application and had too many
>>>>>>> limitations to be used for mass hydrogen generation.� This
>>>>>>> type reactor is very effective at hydrogen production since it
>>>>>>> targets the water vapor molecule at MRI frequencies, which
>>>>>>> breaks the bonding, allowing the carbon to latch onto the oxygen
>>>>>>> atoms leaving the hydrogen free. This device was a closed system
>>>>>>> that used a simple CO2/hydrogen separation stage that enabled
>>>>>>> the hydrogen to be feed to an internal combustion engine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *�*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *To allow for a sustained high mass flow of hydrogen gas output,
>>>>>>> reactor design took on a radical change.� By incorporating the
>>>>>>> Ranque/Hilsch, Counter Flow Implosion Vortex Principle, and
>>>>>>> continuous high mass flow and gas separation were achieved in
>>>>>>> one stage of operation.� Feedstock for this type reactor could
>>>>>>> be any carbon-based material that could be put into a powder
>>>>>>> form.� Highest carbon content of the feedstock provides for
>>>>>>> the most efficient hydrogen production with the least
>>>>>>> undesirable output material.*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *�*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Super high temperature operating regime was chosen to be above
>>>>>>> 2500 C for the purpose of producing atomic hydrogen in the
>>>>>>> process.� The original reactor operated at temperatures that
>>>>>>> easily gasified basic carbon into a plasma state (>10,000 F)
>>>>>>> more easily allowing the production of hydrogen from the
>>>>>>> stoichiometric feed stock ratios.*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> **
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I sold one of my Patents (Sonodiffuser) and paid for my 52 acres
>>>>>>> of land and built a 5200 sq. Ft. lab the do the Prototype
>>>>>>> machining and Proof of Concept testing for GAZPROM, Moscow in
>>>>>>> 2005. A $1.2 million investment and they got the rights to the
>>>>>>> process and I got the beautiful Research Lab all paid in full. I
>>>>>>> was a self employed Contractor in Dallas working with HVAC,
>>>>>>> Electrical and Electronics Maintenance so had to commute 170
>>>>>>> miles/day and only had the week ends for my time! Having to mow
>>>>>>> grass and maintane the 52 acres took all my time and when I
>>>>>>> suffered a neck fracture in 2012, had to retire. Liquidated the
>>>>>>> entire facility and sold it off. Moved to Dallas then to South
>>>>>>> Louisiana where I now do a lot of relaxing and fishing!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hector and ALL, I did my time in the Barrel so now I will just
>>>>>>> contribute to the dialog inorder to assist any research you may
>>>>>>> be doing within my area of experitise!���� BTW! I have
>>>>>>> been out to pasture for a long time now, so no BULL offense!�
>>>>>>> As Hector knows, "It fits"! Lol
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes! Hector, I will wear my Border Patrol Hat when you come
>>>>>>> visit from PR!� Lol
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11/6/2018 8:52 PM, [email protected]
>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>> �
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> By the way ... i can hit mega millions or the power ball� . i
>>>>>>>> never will not have a lab i can work in,� that is worst than
>>>>>>>> death , you have no idea of the technology that had being lost
>>>>>>>> by the greedy fucking bastards fucking my life , they will
>>>>>>>> loose all they have� "soon" because it had being engineered
>>>>>>>> that way by accumulative bad karma, i have another lab they
>>>>>>>> will never reach or be able to intercept or destroy and that
>>>>>>>> will decide their fate ..... they will be fucked hard !
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (H)� �
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ---In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>,
>>>>>>>> <mkjekyll@...> <mailto:mkjekyll@...> wrote :
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cmon Hector,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bad taste!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The man had a more serious lab than anyone else here and his
>>>>>>>> work speaks for itself.� Maybe he has gained the fortune he
>>>>>>>> desired through R&D and now shitting in tall cotton or gone
>>>>>>>> fishing reaping the rewards of retirement. Notwithstanding is
>>>>>>>> still kind enough to help point us in the right directions
>>>>>>>> around here.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "*Funny�I can look back on a life of achievement, on
>>>>>>>> challenges met, competitors bested, obstacles overcome. I�ve
>>>>>>>> accomplished more than most men, and without the use of my
>>>>>>>> legs. What?What makes a man, Mr. Lebowski?"*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 11/6/2018 8:04 AM, arkresearch@... <mailto:arkresearch@....>
>>>>>>>> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     �
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     Dar n ! a Scientist inventor with no lab is like a
>>>>>>>>>     breeding bull with no balls !
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     Balls Cow GIF - Balls Cow WingDangDoodle GIFs
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     ---In [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]>, <nwootan@...>
>>>>>>>>>     <mailto:nwootan@...> wrote :
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     Jacob! You asked me a question and I gave you my
>>>>>>>>>     opinion!� I'm totally retired at 80 years old and have
>>>>>>>>>     no lab to experiment in!� Your quote; I heard once a
>>>>>>>>>     phrase from a researcher who said. '' Slow down boy, we
>>>>>>>>>     get paid for llooking for solutions, not to find
>>>>>>>>>     them!''�� That certainly does not apply to me for I
>>>>>>>>>     have shared all with the folks on this site.� I find you
>>>>>>>>>     statement very interesting:� Technics that use up 10 %
>>>>>>>>>     of a magnet in 24 hours with usual amount of gas looks to
>>>>>>>>>     me extremely inefficient.��
>>>>>>>>>     ??????������� Care to share where you saw
>>>>>>>>>     the power of a permanent magnet being used up!�� We
>>>>>>>>>     all here on this site share what ever knowledge we have on
>>>>>>>>>     the various subjects not seeking any monetary gain in any
>>>>>>>>>     way! That is my approach!�� I just contribute to the
>>>>>>>>>     dialog when I run across something interesting and think
>>>>>>>>>     it will assist you guys!�� Norm
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     On 11/3/2018 11:32 PM, Jakob Wall wall_jakob@...
>>>>>>>>>     <mailto:wall_jakob@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         �
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         Thanks Norman,
>>>>>>>>>>         But i actually asced for ''most efficient way'' to
>>>>>>>>>>         split water known to you!
>>>>>>>>>>         I realize there are a lot of different technigues to
>>>>>>>>>>         do just that.
>>>>>>>>>>         And yes i realize you could give me a rather complex
>>>>>>>>>>         answer. But instead i hope for a
>>>>>>>>>>         rather easy and reproductive answer since i am
>>>>>>>>>>         looking forward to solve my enerrgy
>>>>>>>>>>         problems i just can not live with the momentary (sad
>>>>>>>>>>         and very stupid energy situation)
>>>>>>>>>>         I am still not giving up becouse of a couple mistakes
>>>>>>>>>>         and misunderstandings....
>>>>>>>>>>         If i would be a car dealer and you would ask me for a
>>>>>>>>>>         most efficient car available on the market
>>>>>>>>>>         i would for sure not recommend a Prius, since there
>>>>>>>>>>         are a lot of cars with better fuel economie
>>>>>>>>>>         even without being a hybrid and without additional
>>>>>>>>>>         cost like batterys,e-motors and a bunch added ECU's
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours
>>>>>>>>>>         with usual amount of gas looks to me extremely
>>>>>>>>>>         inefficient.
>>>>>>>>>>         Also very expensive HHO-Garage products with output
>>>>>>>>>>         of 1,6 ltr/min.
>>>>>>>>>>         Come on, 6 rusty nails and a old car batery does this
>>>>>>>>>>         job, no need to spend 1600 bucks on it.
>>>>>>>>>>         I honestly expected solide advise or a honest NO way
>>>>>>>>>>         boy, i just talking around.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. ''
>>>>>>>>>>         Slow down boy, we get paid for llooking for
>>>>>>>>>>         solutions, not to find them!'' That shoked me deeply
>>>>>>>>>>         and even if i get 150 years old, i will not forget it.
>>>>>>>>>>         Thats true treason on mankind and deciving the
>>>>>>>>>>         people. I really hope nobody on this forum only care
>>>>>>>>>>         about what he/she will be doing tomorrow.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         Jakob
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         --------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>         On Sun, 10/28/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY]
>>>>>>>>>>         <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>         Battery
>>>>>>>>>>         To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]>, "Bert Pool"
>>>>>>>>>>         <BertPool512@...> <mailto:BertPool512@...>, "Bob
>>>>>>>>>>         Paddock" <bob.paddock@...> <mailto:bob.paddock@...>,
>>>>>>>>>>         "joel mcclain" <joel_76670@...>
>>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:joel_76670@...>, "Jon Gentry" <jongen422@...>
>>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:jongen422@...>, "Mbking42" <mbking42@...>
>>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:mbking42@...>, "Toby Grotz" <wireless2@...>
>>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:wireless2@...>, "Phil Rembold" <prembold@...>
>>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:prembold@...>, "Angel Alvarez" <angel@...>
>>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:angel@...>, "Fredric Fletcher"
>>>>>>>>>>         <ffletcher@...> <mailto:ffletcher@...>
>>>>>>>>>>         Received: Sunday, October 28, 2018, 9:44 AM
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         �
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         Jacob!� That would be a rather complex answer
>>>>>>>>>>         but here is your
>>>>>>>>>>         starting point!
>>>>>>>>>>         https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct-thermomagnetic-splitting-of-water-.html���
>>>>>>>>>>         After having been heavily involved in the COLD FUSION
>>>>>>>>>>         Research
>>>>>>>>>>         back in the 70s and 80s I quickly settled o0n the best
>>>>>>>>>>         catalyst in
>>>>>>>>>>         electrolytic cells which is pure nickel. I still have
>>>>>>>>>>         the cell
>>>>>>>>>>         used in the Elemental Replication experiments.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm����
>>>>>>>>>>         The hidden
>>>>>>>>>>         part of this research is the use of a nickel component
>>>>>>>>>>         in the
>>>>>>>>>>         combustion chamber. Bosch developed 90,000V ignition
>>>>>>>>>>         systems to
>>>>>>>>>>         enable water injection in gas engine which high
>>>>>>>>>>         lighted the
>>>>>>>>>>         Graneau HV decomposition of water via HVDC
>>>>>>>>>>         discharge!
>>>>>>>>>>         My magnetic Battery when run as an electrolytic cell
>>>>>>>>>>         to produce
>>>>>>>>>>         hydrogen does produce a huge amount of hydrogen gas as
>>>>>>>>>>         shown by
>>>>>>>>>>         the Dr. Ehrenhaft document.� I would tell you to
>>>>>>>>>>         pursue the super
>>>>>>>>>>         high Tesla magnetic flux and nickel electrodes in an
>>>>>>>>>>         electrolytic
>>>>>>>>>>         cell.� The major obstacle to be overcome is the rapid
>>>>>>>>>>         collection
>>>>>>>>>>         of ions from solution by the 1.3 Tesla flux across a
>>>>>>>>>>         ....020"
>>>>>>>>>>         mechanical gap which quickly takes the cell into a
>>>>>>>>>>         super-conduction mode which takes out the driving DC
>>>>>>>>>>         power supply.
>>>>>>>>>>         You can flush the magnetic gaps with distilled water
>>>>>>>>>>         and the gaps
>>>>>>>>>>         will show in the meg-ohm range then go to zero ohms
>>>>>>>>>>         after a short
>>>>>>>>>>         period of running, the gathered ions totally short
>>>>>>>>>>         cell. During
>>>>>>>>>>         the brief runs there is a huge amount of hydrogen gas
>>>>>>>>>>         produced�
>>>>>>>>>>         which I burned off as it was generated.� Much can be
>>>>>>>>>>         said about
>>>>>>>>>>         driving the cell with high frequencies as the Myers
>>>>>>>>>>         research
>>>>>>>>>>         showed.� Our friend up in Canada at George Wiseman,
>>>>>>>>>>         Eagle Research
>>>>>>>>>>         is running well ahead of the crowd on the production
>>>>>>>>>>         of H-H-O.
>>>>>>>>>>         Just for giggles!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         16 October
>>>>>>>>>>         1996
>>>>>>>>>>         To: Hal
>>>>>>>>>>         Fox,� Fusion Facts
>>>>>>>>>>         Elemental
>>>>>>>>>>         Replication ?
>>>>>>>>>>         �
>>>>>>>>>>         ����� Around mid
>>>>>>>>>>         September
>>>>>>>>>>         I put together an
>>>>>>>>>>         electrolysis cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold
>>>>>>>>>>         Fusion Cell
>>>>>>>>>>         with the goal of
>>>>>>>>>>         exploring the possibilities of making what is
>>>>>>>>>>         termed �Pristine
>>>>>>>>>>         Water�.�� This water
>>>>>>>>>>         which will be used by Homeopaths
>>>>>>>>>>         will have had all memory or information
>>>>>>>>>>         removed.� This is accomplished by
>>>>>>>>>>         recombining monatomic
>>>>>>>>>>         hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated in a
>>>>>>>>>>         properly
>>>>>>>>>>         designed cell.� This is
>>>>>>>>>>         the ultimate in purity since this is
>>>>>>>>>>         water with conditions at the time of original
>>>>>>>>>>         creation.� �Holly Water�is a term
>>>>>>>>>>         coined by my dear
>>>>>>>>>>         friend and fellow researcher Joe Tyls of
>>>>>>>>>>         Vancouver, BC.�� After several weeks of
>>>>>>>>>>         successful operation
>>>>>>>>>>         producing water that had all the earmarks of a
>>>>>>>>>>         true �pristine
>>>>>>>>>>         water� a fellow
>>>>>>>>>>         researcher suggested using an alternate
>>>>>>>>>>         electrolyte.�� A solution was selected
>>>>>>>>>>         that contained 77
>>>>>>>>>>         colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the
>>>>>>>>>>         easiest
>>>>>>>>>>         assimilated into the
>>>>>>>>>>         body.�� With the
>>>>>>>>>>         electrolyte changed the
>>>>>>>>>>         cell was put back into operation as before with a
>>>>>>>>>>         nice
>>>>>>>>>>         recombination burn and
>>>>>>>>>>         production of the sought after �pristine
>>>>>>>>>>         water�.�������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������
>>>>>>>>>>         �������
>>>>>>>>>>         ��� After about an
>>>>>>>>>>         hour of
>>>>>>>>>>         operation the cell
>>>>>>>>>>         went absolutely �nuts� with the temperature
>>>>>>>>>>         rapidly climbing
>>>>>>>>>>         to boiling point
>>>>>>>>>>         and the current out of sight.�
>>>>>>>>>>         When the
>>>>>>>>>>         cell was opened we found a deep red sludge deposit
>>>>>>>>>>         which
>>>>>>>>>>         shorted the cell
>>>>>>>>>>         plates.�� Our first
>>>>>>>>>>         thought was that the
>>>>>>>>>>         electrolytic action precipitated out the colloidal
>>>>>>>>>>         minerals
>>>>>>>>>>         which caused the
>>>>>>>>>>         deposit found.�� The�
>>>>>>>>>>         electrolyte was allowed
>>>>>>>>>>         to settle out the
>>>>>>>>>>         precipitate.�� After�
>>>>>>>>>>         decanting off,� the clear electrolyte
>>>>>>>>>>         was
>>>>>>>>>>         returned to the
>>>>>>>>>>         cell for another run. Again the cell operated
>>>>>>>>>>         normally for
>>>>>>>>>>         about an hour with a
>>>>>>>>>>         normal recombination burn and recovery of the
>>>>>>>>>>         water being
>>>>>>>>>>         consumed by the cell
>>>>>>>>>>         in the splitting action.�� Again
>>>>>>>>>>         the cell
>>>>>>>>>>         temperature and current mirrored the first
>>>>>>>>>>         run.�
>>>>>>>>>>         Again the cell contained the same amount of
>>>>>>>>>>         sludge
>>>>>>>>>>         residue.�� This process
>>>>>>>>>>         was repeated ten (10) times
>>>>>>>>>>         with exactly the same results.��
>>>>>>>>>>         All of
>>>>>>>>>>         the sludge was carefully dried and weighed on an
>>>>>>>>>>         electronic
>>>>>>>>>>         scale with a five
>>>>>>>>>>         decimal
>>>>>>>>>>         resolution.���������������������
>>>>>>>>>>         The cell plates and all hardware were
>>>>>>>>>>         weighed to
>>>>>>>>>>         determine any loss of
>>>>>>>>>>         mass that may contribute to the mass gain observed
>>>>>>>>>>         in the
>>>>>>>>>>         sludge.� Five hundred
>>>>>>>>>>         (500) ml of the original
>>>>>>>>>>         electrolyte solution used in the cell was vacuum
>>>>>>>>>>         distilled to
>>>>>>>>>>         determine the
>>>>>>>>>>         exact mass of colloidal minerals
>>>>>>>>>>         contained.�
>>>>>>>>>>         When all factors were considered we came
>>>>>>>>>>         out with a
>>>>>>>>>>         mass gain of� 48 gm
>>>>>>>>>>         which cannot be explained by
>>>>>>>>>>         conventional
>>>>>>>>>>         electrolysis.����������������������
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         ��� After talking
>>>>>>>>>>         to Dr.
>>>>>>>>>>         Robert Bass and Hal
>>>>>>>>>>         Fox I learned of a patent that has been filed on
>>>>>>>>>>         the
>>>>>>>>>>         transmutation of elements
>>>>>>>>>>         in the cold fusion cell which is the process that
>>>>>>>>>>         Dr. John
>>>>>>>>>>         Bockris has been so
>>>>>>>>>>         active in.�� Both Dr.
>>>>>>>>>>         Bass and Hal Fox
>>>>>>>>>>         stated that what I was observing is not the same
>>>>>>>>>>         as the
>>>>>>>>>>         transmutation observed
>>>>>>>>>>         in the cold fusion cell since I have a overall
>>>>>>>>>>         mass gain and
>>>>>>>>>>         not a lateral
>>>>>>>>>>         movement of elements in the periodic table toward
>>>>>>>>>>         lighter
>>>>>>>>>>         elements with a
>>>>>>>>>>         resulting heat release.� This
>>>>>>>>>>         unusual
>>>>>>>>>>         cell operation has caused quite a reaction in the
>>>>>>>>>>         scientific
>>>>>>>>>>         community. �At this
>>>>>>>>>>         time I have built a complete new cell
>>>>>>>>>>         with every possible factor which could possibly
>>>>>>>>>>         explain the
>>>>>>>>>>         mass gain
>>>>>>>>>>         considered and documented.� The
>>>>>>>>>>         ten (10)
>>>>>>>>>>         consecutive runs on the new cell will be completed
>>>>>>>>>>         soon and a
>>>>>>>>>>         report will be
>>>>>>>>>>         forthcoming.�� What is
>>>>>>>>>>         interesting about
>>>>>>>>>>         this phenomenon is that when an eleventh run was
>>>>>>>>>>         made with the
>>>>>>>>>>         original
>>>>>>>>>>         electrolyte exactly the same amount of residue was
>>>>>>>>>>         recovered
>>>>>>>>>>         as in the previous
>>>>>>>>>>         ten
>>>>>>>>>>         runs.�����������������������������������������������������������������������
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         �
>>>>>>>>>>         Since
>>>>>>>>>>         the same electrolyte is reused each time with only
>>>>>>>>>>         distilled
>>>>>>>>>>         water being added
>>>>>>>>>>         to replace the volume lost by the removal of the
>>>>>>>>>>         solids and
>>>>>>>>>>         the water recovered
>>>>>>>>>>         by the recombination burn we are hard pressed to
>>>>>>>>>>         explain the
>>>>>>>>>>         observed
>>>>>>>>>>         phenomenon.���� The
>>>>>>>>>>         electrolyte appears
>>>>>>>>>>         stronger in mineral concentration and shows no
>>>>>>>>>>         sign of
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         depletion.��������������������������������
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         �� After conferring
>>>>>>>>>>         with
>>>>>>>>>>         Joe Tyls we arrived at
>>>>>>>>>>         the conclusion that the 77 colloidal minerals
>>>>>>>>>>         contained in the
>>>>>>>>>>         electrolyte
>>>>>>>>>>         provide the atomic templates needed for the
>>>>>>>>>>         monatomic hydrogen
>>>>>>>>>>         (father of all
>>>>>>>>>>         the elements) to replicate selected elements in
>>>>>>>>>>         this exotic
>>>>>>>>>>         mixture.� If you
>>>>>>>>>>         subscribe to the theories of the late
>>>>>>>>>>         Walter Russell and his explanation of the octave
>>>>>>>>>>         based
>>>>>>>>>>         periodic table with
>>>>>>>>>>         monatonic hydrogen being what he describes as
>>>>>>>>>>         hydrons
>>>>>>>>>>         (precursor to hydrogen)
>>>>>>>>>>         then it is possible for the replication of
>>>>>>>>>>         elements directly
>>>>>>>>>>         from energy input
>>>>>>>>>>         alone.� This is how all
>>>>>>>>>>         matter was
>>>>>>>>>>         created in the beginning as described by
>>>>>>>>>>         Schappeller in �The
>>>>>>>>>>         Physics of the
>>>>>>>>>>         Primary State of Matter�.��� I
>>>>>>>>>>         will keep
>>>>>>>>>>         all informed as to our progress and findings in
>>>>>>>>>>         this very
>>>>>>>>>>         intriguing venture.
>>>>>>>>>>         �
>>>>>>>>>>         Norman
>>>>>>>>>>         Wootan
>>>>>>>>>>         P.O.
>>>>>>>>>>         Box 141049
>>>>>>>>>>         Dallas,
>>>>>>>>>>         TX 75214
>>>>>>>>>>         (214)
>>>>>>>>>>         360-0865
>>>>>>>>>>         �
>>>>>>>>>>         �
>>>>>>>>>>         CC:� Gene Mallove,
>>>>>>>>>>         Infinite
>>>>>>>>>>         Energy
>>>>>>>>>>         CC:� Dr. John
>>>>>>>>>>         Bockris, Texas
>>>>>>>>>>         A/M
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         On 10/28/2018 1:01 AM,
>>>>>>>>>>         Jakob Wall
>>>>>>>>>>         wall_jakob@... <mailto:wall_jakob@...>
>>>>>>>>>>         [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         �
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         Thanks Norman,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         BTW, what is the most effective water split
>>>>>>>>>>         device that
>>>>>>>>>>         you ever put you hands on?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         As HHO researcher for dekades you should be
>>>>>>>>>>         able to point
>>>>>>>>>>         us directly to the most effective known!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         Please be specific about reconstruction of the
>>>>>>>>>>         same, since
>>>>>>>>>>         we are in public domain it will become public
>>>>>>>>>>         knowledge
>>>>>>>>>>         and public good. I assume you intend nothing
>>>>>>>>>>         else,rigth ?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         --------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         On Sat, 10/27/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:nwootan@...>
>>>>>>>>>>         [EVGRAY]
>>>>>>>>>>         <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>         wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's
>>>>>>>>>>         Magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>         Battery [3 Attachments]
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         To: "Bert Pool" <BertPool512@...>
>>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:BertPool512@...>,
>>>>>>>>>>         "Bob
>>>>>>>>>>         Paddock" <bob.paddock@...> <mailto:bob.paddock@...>,
>>>>>>>>>>         "joel mcclain"
>>>>>>>>>>         <joel_76670@....> <mailto:joel_76670@...>,
>>>>>>>>>>         "Jon Gentry"
>>>>>>>>>>         <jongen422@...> <mailto:jongen422@...>,
>>>>>>>>>>         "Lane Wootan"
>>>>>>>>>>         <lanewootan@...> <mailto:lanewootan@...>,
>>>>>>>>>>         "Mbking42"
>>>>>>>>>>         <mbking42@...> <mailto:mbking42@....>,
>>>>>>>>>>         "Toby Grotz"
>>>>>>>>>>         <wireless2@...> <mailto:wireless2@...>,
>>>>>>>>>>         "Phil Rembold"
>>>>>>>>>>         <prembold@...> <mailto:prembold@....>,
>>>>>>>>>>         "Angel Alvarez"
>>>>>>>>>>         <angel@...> <mailto:angel@...>,
>>>>>>>>>>         "Fredric Fletcher"
>>>>>>>>>>         <ffletcher@...> <mailto:ffletcher@...>,
>>>>>>>>>>         [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         To understand the unwinding of a thread
>>>>>>>>>>         leading
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         to Magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         Generating Hydrogen and this Magnetic Battery,
>>>>>>>>>>         we have
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         to dust off
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         our� 9th grade Chemistry Books!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         http://www.rexresearch.com/ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm�����
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         I guess Dr.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         Ehrenhaft was the first to propose a Magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>         Current.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         (Jon
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         Gentry, Your liquid metal vortex helix).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         https://revolution-green.com/can-electrolysis-powered-magnets/������
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         Ah! Ha!� more on Magnetic Currents!!!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446..html
>>>>>>>>>>         <https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446.html>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         https://www.labmanager.com/white-papers-and-application-notes/2010/05/resistivity-conductivity-measurement-of-purified-water#.W9So9uJRc2w
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         https://www.askiitians.com/forums/Physical-Chemistry/19/19074/electro-che
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpotential
>>>>>>>>>>         <https://en.m..wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpotential>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         https://www.quora.com/Why-is-oxygen-molecule-paramagnetic-although-it-does-not-contain-any-unpaired-electron
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251580541_The_effect_of_magnetic_force_on_hydrogen_production_efficiency_in_water_electrolysis
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         http://www.physicscentral.com/experiment/physicsathome/electricwhirlpool.cfm
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         http://www.linux-host.org/energy/bmagpump.htm
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         Now Jon Gentry you have your liquid metal pump
>>>>>>>>>>         so
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         that you can
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         make the helix tube Vortex!�
>>>>>>>>>>         Ferricpetacarbonyl or
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         micro fine neo
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         powder to provide the liquid metal for pump
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         circuit.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         Lots of reading here!���� Please think
>>>>>>>>>>         about the
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         ramifications of
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         a Magnetic Current as proposed by Dr.
>>>>>>>>>>         Ehrenhaft!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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Bart,

This is cannabis growing country big time.  I was involved with a
medical grow once where frogs and wasps took care of all greenhouse
invaders, problem is the wasps would sometimes get too high and die
headfirst in a flower, truly killer bud.  Strains are important
depending on what you desire but the whole science thing can get into
analysis paralysis.  We have tons of people growing female hemp farms
here for CBD and tons of others the THC combo.

Prices used to be 2500- 2 grand a pound wholesale, 1500 for growers who
wanted to dump on the market.  After it was legalized here for
recreation I was wondering what wholesale prices would do.   It took all
of 6 months for capitalism to equalize the price to 500 lb tops. 
Property values with farm land peaked at first now less than 2 years
later many are going into foreclosure as there is a reason it's called a
weed and almost anyone can grow it. 

Tons of people walking around rural roads that look like the peasants in
old paintings of the masters, filthy and not into bathing and many
failed growers substituting meth as a business model.  We did not
anticipate the street type person who would become prevalent as support
for these farms as trimmers etc and the stuff people used to be safe
leaving out in front of their country homes is now disappearing as
crimes of opportunity grow.

We are also running into some issues with formerly anti-chemical hippies
beginning to saturate with pesticides and decimating the bee population
so the dispensaries were forced to require testing for all concentrates.

I suggest anyone who wants to turn this into a business simply find a
good farm rental space and prove the business out.  As with the gold
rush I think the main profiteers will soon be the companies selling the
support products rather than the end product.  I was considering the
same since I know a good bit about the science and am good at it but
wanted to have a look at the price fluctuations first, glad I did.

I am very happy people are no longer put in cages for wanting to smoke
or purchase some weed but was not prepared for the downsides I
mentioned.  I think even the longtime growers are unhappy about the
recreation legalization now.

One good side is at the dispensaries there are some formerly
unemployable people who would be in mom's basement for life otherwise,
with jobs. I suppose this is good.  On the other side of things cannabis
is an extremely powerful mind altering drug though not takes seriously
due to it's very safe and non-toxic nature. Many young people are being
seduced into a non productive lifestyle from getting too planted.  I
have witnessed disasters in families who allowed their high school age
kids to smoke out with them.

Thanks for the links and info.  In Chinese medicine I have seen amazing
results with dark field blood testing and believe in it along with Rife
and much of the rest of the so called "quack" medicine.

All the stirrer rods I can find are covered in teflon, can you point out
something better?


On 11/10/2018 3:44 PM, bart woodard [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> Mick,
>
>    I use all glass(general) in all of of my process , from start to
> consumption.
>
> As far as carcinogenics go, I roll with it mostly. As the body flushes
> it out at this size.dark field analyses.
>
> You can check ec
>
> As the parts per billion are not inductive to any negative value in
> compilation.
>
> Under any lab results   the values go off the charts so I have been
> mostly doing
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark-field_microscopy
>
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark-field_microscopy>
> 	
> Dark-field microscopy - Wikipedia
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark-field_microscopy>
> en.wikipedia.org
> Dark-field microscopy is a very simple yet effective technique and
> well suited for uses involving live and unstained biological samples,
> such as a smear from a tissue culture or individual, water-borne,
> single-celled organisms. Considering the simplicity of the setup, the
> quality of images obtained from this technique is impressive.
>
> at home under my own microscope, checking positive values with
> negative values in comparisons. been doing this for years now.
>
> Even with some people consider this bull , it does have a valid
> outcome with exercise of repetitive work.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mg21897IW_4
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mg21897IW_4>
> 	
> Live Blood Analysis Dark Field Microscopy explained
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mg21897IW_4>
> www.youtube.com
> Dark Field Microscopy Live Blood Analysis explained like never before
>
> Any values that gets through are of good results as proven by
> results.  When we refect positive intent we get the same.
>
> As far as deposits collected at the bottom of you vessel, it could be
> gold or copper pending on colour .  or sludge build of a dominated
> mineral.
>
> Mounatous  regions can have anything as plates push everything.  All
> water tables run every and anywhere. It can be a good coloidal value.
>
> Certain plants thrive on different minerals, check the vegitation
> results in your area.
>
>          sapogens ?
>
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapogenin
>
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapogenin>
> 	
> Sapogenin - Wikipedia <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapogenin>
> en.wikipedia.org
> Sapogenins are the aglycones, or non-saccharide, portions of the
> family of natural products known as saponins.Sapogenins contain
> steroid or other triterpene frameworks as their key organic feature.
> For example, steroidal sapogenins such as tiggenin, neogitogenin, and
> tokorogenin have been isolated from the tubers of Chlorophytum
> arundinaceum. Some steroidal sapogenins can serve as a practical ...
>
> I am recently looking at starting what is called a micro growing
> operation for cannabis here in Canada.
>
> The prof is here because he feels we can play with research regarding
> the enhancement of cbd and the thc levels regarding the dna enhancements.
>
> So I have been looking to purchase a farm. The returns on a yearly
> basis are impressive  1.5  4.5 mill. based on 600 kilos.
>
> Open for offers for any one.
>
> As far as Norms water device , it is a soft application making use of
> the nonferrite mags. Good stuff!
>
> It creates a gentle enhancement on charges all arround for organs ,
> skin , hair, eyes etc.
>
>
> Hopefully some value for you!
>
> Bart
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of
> Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* November 10, 2018 4:23 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery [1
> Attachment]
>  
>  
>
> Bart,
>
> Tell your friend-Even if ethically swayed by grant money, professors
> can be human too, or maybe long ago they once were.
>
> Is there any procedure you utilize to determine if the ghost elements
> are carcinogenic or not?
>
> What is the best material for the magnetic stirrer? 
>
> I think many are polyethylene coated due to it's inert nature.
>
> I recently acquired this water distiller. I have seen these used in
> two places with tap water in Southern California and the crap on the
> bottom stunk and was brown and crusty.  When I use the distiller with
> my processed water the bottom of the unit is clean but for a few drop
> of something I have been collecting in a glass.   We live in Oregon in
> the mountains not near any old mines or chemical sites so the water is
> pretty pristine except for a high concentration of minerals and manganese.
>
> The stuff left in the distiller has a flowery smell so I think it make
> be sapogens from plants or oils from minerals, maybe just info fields
> trying to recombine.
>
>
> On 11/10/2018 12:31 PM, bart woodard [email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>  
>>
>> Hi Mick,
>>
>>   Well needless to say... you are charged lol!
>>
>> All water from any where has different values with different mineral
>> combinations.
>>
>> So whether its been RO then distilled it will still continue with
>> carrying its trace like (ghost)  elements. You are only looking at
>> ppm or parts per million.
>>
>> Not parts per billion and so on. Some say parts per google!
>>
>> Unfortunately most will be carcinogenic due to its weight like or
>> charges needed to extend itself  tho not all will.
>>
>> Even so with the stirrer the vortex will create an implosion
>> enhancing the ghost like values remaining.
>>
>> The molecule will become broken down to several sizes smaller , lets
>> say 5 times approximately or less or greater than.
>>
>> The four principles of play come in effect.
>>
>> *The Four Fundamental Forces and their strengths*
>>
>>   * Gravitational Force – Weakest force; but infinite range. ( Not
>>     part of standard model)
>>   * Weak Nuclear Force – Next weakest; but short range.
>>   * Electromagnetic Force – Stronger, with infinite range.
>>   * Strong Nuclear Force – Strongest; but short range.
>>
>> With in the molecule it has a characteristic tendency so as not to
>> enhance its ph factor with straight on electrical simulated charges.
>>
>> We can not for now mimic the frequency  water likes to evolve to
>> sustain itself at keeping it at a stabilized value with in.
>>
>> So circuit wise or electronically it is only a short life the ph may
>> be increased . Tho I have not ventured out lately.
>>
>> Its been several years for me so forgive my sloppy answers on
>> recalling the research done.
>>
>> Magnetic values are best used for the best overall out come. The
>> molecule stabilizes itself after a would be spike ( Brownian Motion).
>>
>> Distilled that's  acidic at 6.2  can be elevated to 7.4 after it hits
>> 8.5 or so give or take.
>>
>> It can stabilize itself to 7.4 which is where I like it to be for
>> consumption.
>>
>> Tap water, well water etc will go to ammonia like, say right up to
>> 14- 15- ph.
>>
>> Good for paint stripping lol.
>>
>> So distilled @ 0 ppm  will go to 3ppm or more as well as the ph increase.
>>
>> I do not want to use RO as its values can be anywhere.
>>
>> The clustering effect has all the values as in one make up volume.
>>
>> So you get it all , all charges , but mostly enhanced as our body
>> only keeps the larger values and discharges the unwanted ones .
>>
>> We discharge positive and maintain negative values.
>>
>> In another words you get it all good with the bad. But still better
>> than a too high ph value as this can burn your cilia and enzymes
>>
>> with all and good and bad acids in digestion values.
>>
>> Our mitochondria will only accept values approx one micron , so water
>> at five or more times smaller hydrates our cells more easily.
>>
>> Thus delivering any value needed to cells requiring assistance.
>>
>> Hope this has some value some-wheres lol
>>
>> As I said its been a while.
>>
>> Bart
>>
>> PS  A prof just showed up while I am typing this laughing at me .
>>
>>         He says to add that the sun feels symbiotic to earth as it
>> senses we are out of sync so its releasing more flares.
>>
>> I told him its the hydrogen intent! lol
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> on behalf of
>> Mick [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
>> *Sent:* November 10 
>>  
>>
>> Bart,
>>
>> Your information including on your cat is very interesting.  I have
>> been using distilled water that is first softened and then RO  then
>> distilled beginning from my well.   It has a similar "drying" effect
>> as norms wholly water though not as pronounced.
>>
>> Could you please provide more information on your experiments
>> concerning distilled water and using the magnetic stirrer and how
>> that alkalizes the water?   The NMR and parahydrogen post if very
>> long winded so difficult for me to get the gist of your presentation.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Mick
>>
>>
>> On 11/10/2018 10:37 AM, bart woodard [email protected]
>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>  
>>>
>>> I use a magnetic stirrer with distilled and wait for the ph to rise,
>>> the results are immediate.
>>>
>>> https://hannainst.com/hi190m-1-magnetic-mini-stirrer.html
>>>
>>> Mini Magnetic Stirrer (115V) - HI190M-1 - Hanna Instruments
>>> <https://hannainst.com/hi190m-1-magnetic-mini-stirrer.html>
>>> hannainst.com
>>> Compact. Lightweight. This mini magnetic stirrer with plastic cover
>>> can stir up to 1 liter. Big power, small footprint. Perfect for any lab!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> *From:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> on behalf
>>> of Norman Wootan [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
>>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>> *Sent:* November 10, 2018 12:34 PM
>>> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>> *Subject:* Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery [2
>>> Attachments]
>>>  
>>>  
>>>
>>> No!� Bart, never got into that exotic element stuff!� Just
>>> followed those that were!
>>>
>>> On 11/10/2018 10:42 AM, bart woodard [email protected]
>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>> �
>>>>
>>>> Hey Norm , your life's experiences have been fruitful!! Congrats!!
>>>>
>>>> Have you ever played with table top combinations� such as thorium
>>>> and fluoride or the molten salt combo?
>>>>
>>>> On a hobbyist� basis approach?
>>>>
>>>> Rossi likes to inject nickel/mag� powder so as I see to maintain
>>>> his 1k output!.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> *From:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> on behalf
>>>> of Norman Wootan [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
>>>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>> *Sent:* November 9, 2018 3:12 PM
>>>> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery [2
>>>> Attachments]
>>>> �
>>>> �
>>>>
>>>> Mick! To answer the rest of your questions:� In that ARC process
>>>> you have to use carbon rods to yield the carbon monoxide &
>>>> hydrogen.� (carbon source) (arc is heat source).
>>>>
>>>> Holy Water was interesting part of the Elemental Replication
>>>> experiment. See:�
>>>>
>>>> *Elemental Replication ?*
>>>>
>>>> *�*
>>>>
>>>> ����� Around mid September I put together an electrolysis
>>>> cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold Fusion Cell with the goal of
>>>> exploring the possibilities of making what is termed �Pristine
>>>> Water�.�� This water which will be used by Homeopaths will
>>>> have had all memory or information removed.� This is accomplished
>>>> by recombining monatomic hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated
>>>> in a properly designed cell.� This is the ultimate in purity
>>>> since this is water with conditions at the time of original
>>>> creation.� �Wholy Water�is a term coined by my dear friend
>>>> and fellow researcher Joe Tyls of Vancouver, BC.�� After
>>>> several weeks of successful operation producing water that had all
>>>> the earmarks of a true �pristine water� a fellow researcher
>>>> suggested using an alternate electrolyte.�� A solution was
>>>> selected that contained 77 colloidal minerals as found in plants
>>>> that are the easiest assimilated into the body.�� With the
>>>> electrolyte changed the cell was put back into operation as before
>>>> with a nice recombination burn and production of the sought after
>>>> �pristine water�.���
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The water produced in the recombination burn of the H-H-O was
>>>> collected from a silica glass condenser into a silica glass beaker
>>>> for sampling.� When you flipped several CCs of the water into
>>>> your mouth and tried to swallow, there was nothing there.�
>>>> Hmmmm!� We immediately tested the viscosity and surface tension
>>>> of the water and found it to be far below human blood which means
>>>> that the water diffused directly into the capillaries around the
>>>> tongue therefore nothing there to swallow.� The two Doctor who
>>>> were there were amazed. � To prove the theory as to information
>>>> carried by water, we collected a sample of several CCs into a
>>>> plastic lab cup instead of the silica glass beaker. When you
>>>> flipped the several CCs into your mouth you had to immediately spit
>>>> it out for it was pure taste of plastic. This water picks up
>>>> signature of anything it comes into contact with.� That is why
>>>> the Homeopathic Doctors wanted it for making their
>>>> tinctures.��� (signature of a healing agent). ��� We
>>>> had all the necessary instruments to evaluate the Pristine water.
>>>> See: � https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemorheology
>>>> <https://en..m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemorheology>
>>>>
>>>> Hemorheology - Wikipedia <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemorheology>
>>>> en.m.wikipedia.org
>>>> Blood viscosity is a measure of the resistance of blood to flow. It
>>>> can also be described as the thickness and stickiness of blood.
>>>> This biophysical property makes it a critical determinant of
>>>> friction against the vessel walls, the rate of venous return, the
>>>> work required for the heart to pump blood, and how much oxygen is
>>>> transported to tissues and organs.
>>>>
>>>> ��
>>>> http://www.dynalenelabs.com/testing-services/thermal-testing/viscosity-rheology/?gclid=CjwKCAiA_ZTfBRBjEiwAN6YG4SdHu5bWZ9yHLBM9VNQ0TLl4tB1hOqMvR_dOEHNbGX6k_kDHHtb5xhoCgIgQAvD_BwE
>>>> ��������
>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tensiometer
>>>> <https://en..m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tensiometer>
>>>>
>>>> � https://hydramotion.com/en/technical/units-of-viscosity
>>>>
>>>> I made an offer to the Doctors present that a small unit for
>>>> production of a liter/day of Pristine Water via complete unit built
>>>> of quartz glass could be had for $5,000. Apparently they were not
>>>> that enthused as we thought!� Oh! Well!
>>>>
>>>> I built numerous Pyramids of all sizes and the Orgone Accumulators
>>>> and even the Cloud� Buster.�� The pyramid experiments were
>>>> very interesting for real effects were shown.�� Never tested
>>>> whether water would� break after treatment by either Orgone� or
>>>> pyramid.��� The complete description of the 4 inch cell is in
>>>> the Elemental replication Part Two. See:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cell Description
>>>>
>>>> �
>>>>
>>>> ��� The electrolysis cell is designed to hold one (1) liter
>>>> of electrolyte and operate at approximately 150 watt power level
>>>> for the production of monatomic hydrogen and� monatomic oxygen
>>>> which is burned back to pure water and collected in a glass
>>>> condenser.� Cell container is schedule 40 PVC pipe section 6
>>>> inches long with bottom cap cemented on.� The top of the cell has
>>>> a 4 inch female thread adapter cemented on to provide access to the
>>>> interior via a male threaded plug which has the gas outlet port and
>>>> two electrolyte fill ports to provide for replacement of lost
>>>> electrolyte on the fly for continuos operation.� Positive and
>>>> negative terminals are provided for external connection of the
>>>> power supply leads to the internal anode- cathode stack.
>>>>
>>>> ��� The cell plate stack consist of 8 anode plates and 8
>>>> cathode plates of the following sizes constructed from 316L
>>>> stainless steel of 22 ga. thickness.
>>>>
>>>> 4 ea.� 3� X 3� plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 2.75�plates,� 2
>>>> ea. 3� X 2.5�plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 2.25� plates,� 2 ea.
>>>> 3� X 2� plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 1.75� plates, and� 2 ea.
>>>> 3� X 1.5� plates.� The plates are drilled and stacked with
>>>> alternating anode and cathode plates spaced 1/8� apart which
>>>> makes a cylindrical shaped array which fits nicely inside of the
>>>> 4� ID PVC� cell container.� Electrical leads are braided
>>>> copper of #10 size which are covered by shrink tubing to cover
>>>> conductive surface as they pass through the electrolyte to the cell
>>>> terminal bolts.� All electrical surfaces other than the anode and
>>>> cathode plates are carefully covered with PVC cement to prevent
>>>> deterioration from electrolyte contact.��� Please note that
>>>> if allowed to come into contact with �charged� surfaces
>>>> monatomic hydrogen and monatonic oxygen will imediately form into
>>>> their usual occuring state as diatomic H2 and O2 molecules.
>>>>
>>>> ���������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11/8/2018 4:29 PM, Mick [email protected]
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>> �
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Norm,
>>>>>
>>>>> The catalysts are very interesting.� Iron Cobalt and Nickel all
>>>>> ferromagnetic but at different spins.
>>>>>
>>>>> Correct me if I am wrong but based on reading your links a
>>>>> bingofuel type reactor using tungsten electrodes that hopefully
>>>>> would last much longer would likely produce OH rather than H and
>>>>> carbon monoxide, what do you think?
>>>>>
>>>>> Also water is strange indeed in that a pyramid or orgone
>>>>> accumulator changes it and these simple changes could make for
>>>>> water that breaks up more easily.� I would love to know what
>>>>> results you demonstrated with the totally juvenile memory free
>>>>> water you put back together from the OH?�
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry to hear about your neck fracture, I have a similar issue and
>>>>> it is extremely painful and debilitating at times.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mick
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/7/2018 4:15 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected]
>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>> �
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/7/2018 6:06 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jakob Wall! & all other researchers on here need to read the
>>>>>>> Whole Story as to why I no longer have a research lab.� Jakob,
>>>>>>> I'm sorry I did not reveal to you the BEST in my opinion of
>>>>>>> methods of producing hydrogen gas for I felt it was a little too
>>>>>>> advanced and difficult for you to experiment with.� See:
>>>>>>> https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en .�� There
>>>>>>> is a very long story behind this US Patent and a hell of a lot
>>>>>>> of research. The quest for a very inexpensive method of
>>>>>>> splitting water has been the Holy Grail of� cheap
>>>>>>> energy.�� In addition to the research papers and links that
>>>>>>> I gave to you, here are some more to dwell on.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.researchgate.net/post/At_what_temperature_water_will_decompose_to_Oxygen_and_Hydrogen
>>>>>>> <https://www..researchgate.net/post/At_what_temperature_water_will_decompose_to_Oxygen_and_Hydrogen>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.quora.com/Does-water-break-down-into-oxygen-and-hydrogen-at-high-temperatures-If-so-then-at-what-temperature
>>>>>>> <https://www..quora.com/Does-water-break-down-into-oxygen-and-hydrogen-at-high-temperatures-If-so-then-at-what-temperature>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.quora.com/How-much-water-can-you-split-into-hydrogen-and-oxygen-using-electrolysis-with-one-kilowatt-hour-of-electricity
>>>>>>> <https://www..quora.com/How-much-water-can-you-split-into-hydrogen-and-oxygen-using-electrolysis-with-one-kilowatt-hour-of-electricity>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.redrok.com/hion96a1.htm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.nature.com/articles/nplants201741
>>>>>>> <https://www..nature.com/articles/nplants201741>�� Please
>>>>>>> read carefully about the play of Nickel in this approach!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_splitting
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water-gas_shift_reaction���
>>>>>>> I owned 77 acres of land in Eureka Springs, AR where they still
>>>>>>> had the old water gas generator and gas storage facility.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decarboxylation
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://phys.org/news/2018-02-uncovers-mechanism-water-splitting-catalyst.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/new-catalyst-could-split-water-cheaply/
>>>>>>> <https://www..scientificamerican.com/article/new-catalyst-could-split-water-cheaply/>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.technologyreview.com/s/512996/a-cheaper-way-to-make-hydrogen-from-water/
>>>>>>> <https://www..technologyreview.com/s/512996/a-cheaper-way-to-make-hydrogen-from-water/>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "*SUPER STEAM* - A Tesla conference in Colorado surfaces new
>>>>>>> Super Steam Technology (SST). Leonard Dorsett and friends from
>>>>>>> Texas share strikingly similar views to Aquarian Agency Ltd.
>>>>>>> They have technology which produces steam instantly at up to
>>>>>>> 3,000F without a boiler and with 60% savings in fuel over
>>>>>>> traditional boilers. Nitrogen rich, it can put out gasoline
>>>>>>> fires and treat many waste problems. Of major importance to
>>>>>>> Aquarian, this nitrogen-rich steam will help to produce heat and
>>>>>>> Aquastone at considerable savings."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For further information on Aquarian Agency Ltd. they can be
>>>>>>> contacted at 38 Weir Rd, Wimbledon, London SW19 SUG, England or
>>>>>>> on Internet at <aquarian ocign.ape.org>. *_SUPER STEAM
>>>>>>> TECHNOLOGY PART 2_*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Leonard Dorsett (PO Box 365, Grapevine, TX 76092) demonstrated
>>>>>>> his Super Steam Technology at the 1994 International Tesla
>>>>>>> Symposium. SST is a system for producing steam at any
>>>>>>> temperature or pressure independently and instantly without the
>>>>>>> need for a conventional boiler. It can instantly produce steam
>>>>>>> of any temperature from hot water at 180F to super heated steam
>>>>>>> at over 3000F, while pressures can vary from 1PSI to 3000PSI
>>>>>>> with airflow volumes of 1CFM up to over 2000CFM. The system
>>>>>>> operates on propane, methane, petrol, kerosene, methanol,
>>>>>>> diesel, hydrogen or just about anything else that bums and
>>>>>>> converts virtually 100% of the fuel into usable energy. (Note:
>>>>>>> The person in the picture is Norman Wootan of MRA fame)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This all sounds great, but how does it work? The basis of the
>>>>>>> unit is a specially designed open throat chamber with controlled
>>>>>>> air, water and fuel interaction and a high voltage ignition
>>>>>>> resulting in a direct fire process establishing thermal zones.
>>>>>>> This creates a stoichiometric condition resulting in a full
>>>>>>> spectrum of steam product. Now comes the interesting part At the
>>>>>>> increased temperatures of steam, disassociation occurs. (Could
>>>>>>> this be a clue to running cars on water??) The hydrogen and
>>>>>>> oxygen reacts causing an exponential increase of energy
>>>>>>> resulting in super heated steam. A similar superheat process was
>>>>>>> addressed by Tesla in the October 12, 1911 publication of the
>>>>>>> "Engineering News Record".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Applications of the SST system include a much more economical
>>>>>>> way of producing electricity as no conventional boiler is
>>>>>>> needed. It will also be an ideal low cost method for heating and
>>>>>>> cooling homes and businesses. Small portable units can be
>>>>>>> developed for home use, such as steam cleaning, and insect and
>>>>>>> ant removal, without the dangers of insecticides. The system can
>>>>>>> also be used for low cost purification of polluted water or
>>>>>>> sewerage and can also convert salt water into drinking water
>>>>>>> both quickly and inexpensively. Other uses are in fire fighting
>>>>>>> applications, ice and snow removal from roads, etc. and
>>>>>>> sterilization and nurturing of soil for agriculture where
>>>>>>> contamination has occurred.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I had designed a method of making hydrogen from carbon & water
>>>>>>> vapor using the Tesla Atomic Bombardment method of high
>>>>>>> frequency inside of spherical inclosure like this experiments
>>>>>>> with the carbon button lamp globes.�� After working with
>>>>>>> Leonard Dorsett and his Super Steam Project, I chose to use the
>>>>>>> Water Shift Process instead.� A side note is needed here!�
>>>>>>> The Super Steam Process was a result of Professor Brown studying
>>>>>>> the method the German's used for torpedo propulsion from WWI.�
>>>>>>> Acetylene Gas and sea water produced an exothermic reaction
>>>>>>> generating Super Steam. Brown built several reactors and tested
>>>>>>> them in the Tulsa area to break (down hole) the parafin deposits
>>>>>>> to release crude oil.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Chemical equation for the reaction in the US Patent:
>>>>>>> https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *(6C + 12 H2O� = 6CO2 + 24H) *
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hydrogen Reactor Development
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *�*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Original concept design was a high voltage, high frequency
>>>>>>> resonant device that utilized carbon water reaction with the
>>>>>>> feedstock being in the form of graphite rod stock.� This unit
>>>>>>> was designed for vehicle application and had too many
>>>>>>> limitations to be used for mass hydrogen generation.� This
>>>>>>> type reactor is very effective at hydrogen production since it
>>>>>>> targets the water vapor molecule at MRI frequencies, which
>>>>>>> breaks the bonding, allowing the carbon to latch onto the oxygen
>>>>>>> atoms leaving the hydrogen free. This device was a closed system
>>>>>>> that used a simple CO2/hydrogen separation stage that enabled
>>>>>>> the hydrogen to be feed to an internal combustion engine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *�*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *To allow for a sustained high mass flow of hydrogen gas output,
>>>>>>> reactor design took on a radical change.� By incorporating the
>>>>>>> Ranque/Hilsch, Counter Flow Implosion Vortex Principle, and
>>>>>>> continuous high mass flow and gas separation were achieved in
>>>>>>> one stage of operation.� Feedstock for this type reactor could
>>>>>>> be any carbon-based material that could be put into a powder
>>>>>>> form.� Highest carbon content of the feedstock provides for
>>>>>>> the most efficient hydrogen production with the least
>>>>>>> undesirable output material.*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *�*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Super high temperature operating regime was chosen to be above
>>>>>>> 2500 C for the purpose of producing atomic hydrogen in the
>>>>>>> process.� The original reactor operated at temperatures that
>>>>>>> easily gasified basic carbon into a plasma state (>10,000 F)
>>>>>>> more easily allowing the production of hydrogen from the
>>>>>>> stoichiometric feed stock ratios.*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> **
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I sold one of my Patents (Sonodiffuser) and paid for my 52 acres
>>>>>>> of land and built a 5200 sq. Ft. lab the do the Prototype
>>>>>>> machining and Proof of Concept testing for GAZPROM, Moscow in
>>>>>>> 2005. A $1.2 million investment and they got the rights to the
>>>>>>> process and I got the beautiful Research Lab all paid in full. I
>>>>>>> was a self employed Contractor in Dallas working with HVAC,
>>>>>>> Electrical and Electronics Maintenance so had to commute 170
>>>>>>> miles/day and only had the week ends for my time! Having to mow
>>>>>>> grass and maintane the 52 acres took all my time and when I
>>>>>>> suffered a neck fracture in 2012, had to retire. Liquidated the
>>>>>>> entire facility and sold it off. Moved to Dallas then to South
>>>>>>> Louisiana where I now do a lot of relaxing and fishing!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hector and ALL, I did my time in the Barrel so now I will just
>>>>>>> contribute to the dialog inorder to assist any research you may
>>>>>>> be doing within my area of experitise!���� BTW! I have
>>>>>>> been out to pasture for a long time now, so no BULL offense!�
>>>>>>> As Hector knows, "It fits"! Lol
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes! Hector, I will wear my Border Patrol Hat when you come
>>>>>>> visit from PR!� Lol
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11/6/2018 8:52 PM, [email protected]
>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>> �
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> By the way ... i can hit mega millions or the power ball� . i
>>>>>>>> never will not have a lab i can work in,� that is worst than
>>>>>>>> death , you have no idea of the technology that had being lost
>>>>>>>> by the greedy fucking bastards fucking my life , they will
>>>>>>>> loose all they have� "soon" because it had being engineered
>>>>>>>> that way by accumulative bad karma, i have another lab they
>>>>>>>> will never reach or be able to intercept or destroy and that
>>>>>>>> will decide their fate ..... they will be fucked hard !
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (H)� �
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ---In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>,
>>>>>>>> <mkjekyll@...> <mailto:mkjekyll@...> wrote :
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cmon Hector,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bad taste!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The man had a more serious lab than anyone else here and his
>>>>>>>> work speaks for itself.� Maybe he has gained the fortune he
>>>>>>>> desired through R&D and now shitting in tall cotton or gone
>>>>>>>> fishing reaping the rewards of retirement. Notwithstanding is
>>>>>>>> still kind enough to help point us in the right directions
>>>>>>>> around here.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "*Funny�I can look back on a life of achievement, on
>>>>>>>> challenges met, competitors bested, obstacles overcome. I�ve
>>>>>>>> accomplished more than most men, and without the use of my
>>>>>>>> legs. What?What makes a man, Mr. Lebowski?"*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 11/6/2018 8:04 AM, arkresearch@... <mailto:arkresearch@....>
>>>>>>>> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     �
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     Dar n ! a Scientist inventor with no lab is like a
>>>>>>>>>     breeding bull with no balls !
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     Balls Cow GIF - Balls Cow WingDangDoodle GIFs
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     ---In [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]>, <nwootan@...>
>>>>>>>>>     <mailto:nwootan@...> wrote :
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     Jacob! You asked me a question and I gave you my
>>>>>>>>>     opinion!� I'm totally retired at 80 years old and have
>>>>>>>>>     no lab to experiment in!� Your quote; I heard once a
>>>>>>>>>     phrase from a researcher who said. '' Slow down boy, we
>>>>>>>>>     get paid for llooking for solutions, not to find
>>>>>>>>>     them!''�� That certainly does not apply to me for I
>>>>>>>>>     have shared all with the folks on this site.� I find you
>>>>>>>>>     statement very interesting:� Technics that use up 10 %
>>>>>>>>>     of a magnet in 24 hours with usual amount of gas looks to
>>>>>>>>>     me extremely inefficient.��
>>>>>>>>>     ??????������� Care to share where you saw
>>>>>>>>>     the power of a permanent magnet being used up!�� We
>>>>>>>>>     all here on this site share what ever knowledge we have on
>>>>>>>>>     the various subjects not seeking any monetary gain in any
>>>>>>>>>     way! That is my approach!�� I just contribute to the
>>>>>>>>>     dialog when I run across something interesting and think
>>>>>>>>>     it will assist you guys!�� Norm
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     On 11/3/2018 11:32 PM, Jakob Wall wall_jakob@...
>>>>>>>>>     <mailto:wall_jakob@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         �
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         Thanks Norman,
>>>>>>>>>>         But i actually asced for ''most efficient way'' to
>>>>>>>>>>         split water known to you!
>>>>>>>>>>         I realize there are a lot of different technigues to
>>>>>>>>>>         do just that.
>>>>>>>>>>         And yes i realize you could give me a rather complex
>>>>>>>>>>         answer. But instead i hope for a
>>>>>>>>>>         rather easy and reproductive answer since i am
>>>>>>>>>>         looking forward to solve my enerrgy
>>>>>>>>>>         problems i just can not live with the momentary (sad
>>>>>>>>>>         and very stupid energy situation)
>>>>>>>>>>         I am still not giving up becouse of a couple mistakes
>>>>>>>>>>         and misunderstandings....
>>>>>>>>>>         If i would be a car dealer and you would ask me for a
>>>>>>>>>>         most efficient car available on the market
>>>>>>>>>>         i would for sure not recommend a Prius, since there
>>>>>>>>>>         are a lot of cars with better fuel economie
>>>>>>>>>>         even without being a hybrid and without additional
>>>>>>>>>>         cost like batterys,e-motors and a bunch added ECU's
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours
>>>>>>>>>>         with usual amount of gas looks to me extremely
>>>>>>>>>>         inefficient.
>>>>>>>>>>         Also very expensive HHO-Garage products with output
>>>>>>>>>>         of 1,6 ltr/min.
>>>>>>>>>>         Come on, 6 rusty nails and a old car batery does this
>>>>>>>>>>         job, no need to spend 1600 bucks on it.
>>>>>>>>>>         I honestly expected solide advise or a honest NO way
>>>>>>>>>>         boy, i just talking around.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. ''
>>>>>>>>>>         Slow down boy, we get paid for llooking for
>>>>>>>>>>         solutions, not to find them!'' That shoked me deeply
>>>>>>>>>>         and even if i get 150 years old, i will not forget it.
>>>>>>>>>>         Thats true treason on mankind and deciving the
>>>>>>>>>>         people. I really hope nobody on this forum only care
>>>>>>>>>>         about what he/she will be doing tomorrow.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         Jakob
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         --------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>         On Sun, 10/28/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY]
>>>>>>>>>>         <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>         Battery
>>>>>>>>>>         To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]>, "Bert Pool"
>>>>>>>>>>         <BertPool512@...> <mailto:BertPool512@...>, "Bob
>>>>>>>>>>         Paddock" <bob.paddock@...> <mailto:bob.paddock@...>,
>>>>>>>>>>         "joel mcclain" <joel_76670@...>
>>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:joel_76670@...>, "Jon Gentry" <jongen422@...>
>>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:jongen422@...>, "Mbking42" <mbking42@...>
>>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:mbking42@...>, "Toby Grotz" <wireless2@...>
>>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:wireless2@...>, "Phil Rembold" <prembold@...>
>>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:prembold@...>, "Angel Alvarez" <angel@...>
>>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:angel@...>, "Fredric Fletcher"
>>>>>>>>>>         <ffletcher@...> <mailto:ffletcher@...>
>>>>>>>>>>         Received: Sunday, October 28, 2018, 9:44 AM
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         �
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         Jacob!� That would be a rather complex answer
>>>>>>>>>>         but here is your
>>>>>>>>>>         starting point!
>>>>>>>>>>         https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct-thermomagnetic-splitting-of-water-.html���
>>>>>>>>>>         After having been heavily involved in the COLD FUSION
>>>>>>>>>>         Research
>>>>>>>>>>         back in the 70s and 80s I quickly settled o0n the best
>>>>>>>>>>         catalyst in
>>>>>>>>>>         electrolytic cells which is pure nickel. I still have
>>>>>>>>>>         the cell
>>>>>>>>>>         used in the Elemental Replication experiments.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm����
>>>>>>>>>>         The hidden
>>>>>>>>>>         part of this research is the use of a nickel component
>>>>>>>>>>         in the
>>>>>>>>>>         combustion chamber. Bosch developed 90,000V ignition
>>>>>>>>>>         systems to
>>>>>>>>>>         enable water injection in gas engine which high
>>>>>>>>>>         lighted the
>>>>>>>>>>         Graneau HV decomposition of water via HVDC
>>>>>>>>>>         discharge!
>>>>>>>>>>         My magnetic Battery when run as an electrolytic cell
>>>>>>>>>>         to produce
>>>>>>>>>>         hydrogen does produce a huge amount of hydrogen gas as
>>>>>>>>>>         shown by
>>>>>>>>>>         the Dr. Ehrenhaft document.� I would tell you to
>>>>>>>>>>         pursue the super
>>>>>>>>>>         high Tesla magnetic flux and nickel electrodes in an
>>>>>>>>>>         electrolytic
>>>>>>>>>>         cell.� The major obstacle to be overcome is the rapid
>>>>>>>>>>         collection
>>>>>>>>>>         of ions from solution by the 1.3 Tesla flux across a
>>>>>>>>>>         ....020"
>>>>>>>>>>         mechanical gap which quickly takes the cell into a
>>>>>>>>>>         super-conduction mode which takes out the driving DC
>>>>>>>>>>         power supply.
>>>>>>>>>>         You can flush the magnetic gaps with distilled water
>>>>>>>>>>         and the gaps
>>>>>>>>>>         will show in the meg-ohm range then go to zero ohms
>>>>>>>>>>         after a short
>>>>>>>>>>         period of running, the gathered ions totally short
>>>>>>>>>>         cell. During
>>>>>>>>>>         the brief runs there is a huge amount of hydrogen gas
>>>>>>>>>>         produced�
>>>>>>>>>>         which I burned off as it was generated.� Much can be
>>>>>>>>>>         said about
>>>>>>>>>>         driving the cell with high frequencies as the Myers
>>>>>>>>>>         research
>>>>>>>>>>         showed.� Our friend up in Canada at George Wiseman,
>>>>>>>>>>         Eagle Research
>>>>>>>>>>         is running well ahead of the crowd on the production
>>>>>>>>>>         of H-H-O.
>>>>>>>>>>         Just for giggles!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         16 October
>>>>>>>>>>         1996
>>>>>>>>>>         To: Hal
>>>>>>>>>>         Fox,� Fusion Facts
>>>>>>>>>>         Elemental
>>>>>>>>>>         Replication ?
>>>>>>>>>>         �
>>>>>>>>>>         ����� Around mid
>>>>>>>>>>         September
>>>>>>>>>>         I put together an
>>>>>>>>>>         electrolysis cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold
>>>>>>>>>>         Fusion Cell
>>>>>>>>>>         with the goal of
>>>>>>>>>>         exploring the possibilities of making what is
>>>>>>>>>>         termed �Pristine
>>>>>>>>>>         Water�.�� This water
>>>>>>>>>>         which will be used by Homeopaths
>>>>>>>>>>         will have had all memory or information
>>>>>>>>>>         removed.� This is accomplished by
>>>>>>>>>>         recombining monatomic
>>>>>>>>>>         hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated in a
>>>>>>>>>>         properly
>>>>>>>>>>         designed cell.� This is
>>>>>>>>>>         the ultimate in purity since this is
>>>>>>>>>>         water with conditions at the time of original
>>>>>>>>>>         creation.� �Holly Water�is a term
>>>>>>>>>>         coined by my dear
>>>>>>>>>>         friend and fellow researcher Joe Tyls of
>>>>>>>>>>         Vancouver, BC.�� After several weeks of
>>>>>>>>>>         successful operation
>>>>>>>>>>         producing water that had all the earmarks of a
>>>>>>>>>>         true �pristine
>>>>>>>>>>         water� a fellow
>>>>>>>>>>         researcher suggested using an alternate
>>>>>>>>>>         electrolyte.�� A solution was selected
>>>>>>>>>>         that contained 77
>>>>>>>>>>         colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the
>>>>>>>>>>         easiest
>>>>>>>>>>         assimilated into the
>>>>>>>>>>         body.�� With the
>>>>>>>>>>         electrolyte changed the
>>>>>>>>>>         cell was put back into operation as before with a
>>>>>>>>>>         nice
>>>>>>>>>>         recombination burn and
>>>>>>>>>>         production of the sought after �pristine
>>>>>>>>>>         water�.�������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������
>>>>>>>>>>         �������
>>>>>>>>>>         ��� After about an
>>>>>>>>>>         hour of
>>>>>>>>>>         operation the cell
>>>>>>>>>>         went absolutely �nuts� with the temperature
>>>>>>>>>>         rapidly climbing
>>>>>>>>>>         to boiling point
>>>>>>>>>>         and the current out of sight.�
>>>>>>>>>>         When the
>>>>>>>>>>         cell was opened we found a deep red sludge deposit
>>>>>>>>>>         which
>>>>>>>>>>         shorted the cell
>>>>>>>>>>         plates.�� Our first
>>>>>>>>>>         thought was that the
>>>>>>>>>>         electrolytic action precipitated out the colloidal
>>>>>>>>>>         minerals
>>>>>>>>>>         which caused the
>>>>>>>>>>         deposit found.�� The�
>>>>>>>>>>         electrolyte was allowed
>>>>>>>>>>         to settle out the
>>>>>>>>>>         precipitate.�� After�
>>>>>>>>>>         decanting off,� the clear electrolyte
>>>>>>>>>>         was
>>>>>>>>>>         returned to the
>>>>>>>>>>         cell for another run. Again the cell operated
>>>>>>>>>>         normally for
>>>>>>>>>>         about an hour with a
>>>>>>>>>>         normal recombination burn and recovery of the
>>>>>>>>>>         water being
>>>>>>>>>>         consumed by the cell
>>>>>>>>>>         in the splitting action.�� Again
>>>>>>>>>>         the cell
>>>>>>>>>>         temperature and current mirrored the first
>>>>>>>>>>         run.�
>>>>>>>>>>         Again the cell contained the same amount of
>>>>>>>>>>         sludge
>>>>>>>>>>         residue.�� This process
>>>>>>>>>>         was repeated ten (10) times
>>>>>>>>>>         with exactly the same results.��
>>>>>>>>>>         All of
>>>>>>>>>>         the sludge was carefully dried and weighed on an
>>>>>>>>>>         electronic
>>>>>>>>>>         scale with a five
>>>>>>>>>>         decimal
>>>>>>>>>>         resolution.���������������������
>>>>>>>>>>         The cell plates and all hardware were
>>>>>>>>>>         weighed to
>>>>>>>>>>         determine any loss of
>>>>>>>>>>         mass that may contribute to the mass gain observed
>>>>>>>>>>         in the
>>>>>>>>>>         sludge.� Five hundred
>>>>>>>>>>         (500) ml of the original
>>>>>>>>>>         electrolyte solution used in the cell was vacuum
>>>>>>>>>>         distilled to
>>>>>>>>>>         determine the
>>>>>>>>>>         exact mass of colloidal minerals
>>>>>>>>>>         contained.�
>>>>>>>>>>         When all factors were considered we came
>>>>>>>>>>         out with a
>>>>>>>>>>         mass gain of� 48 gm
>>>>>>>>>>         which cannot be explained by
>>>>>>>>>>         conventional
>>>>>>>>>>         electrolysis.����������������������
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         ��� After talking
>>>>>>>>>>         to Dr.
>>>>>>>>>>         Robert Bass and Hal
>>>>>>>>>>         Fox I learned of a patent that has been filed on
>>>>>>>>>>         the
>>>>>>>>>>         transmutation of elements
>>>>>>>>>>         in the cold fusion cell which is the process that
>>>>>>>>>>         Dr. John
>>>>>>>>>>         Bockris has been so
>>>>>>>>>>         active in.�� Both Dr.
>>>>>>>>>>         Bass and Hal Fox
>>>>>>>>>>         stated that what I was observing is not the same
>>>>>>>>>>         as the
>>>>>>>>>>         transmutation observed
>>>>>>>>>>         in the cold fusion cell since I have a overall
>>>>>>>>>>         mass gain and
>>>>>>>>>>         not a lateral
>>>>>>>>>>         movement of elements in the periodic table toward
>>>>>>>>>>         lighter
>>>>>>>>>>         elements with a
>>>>>>>>>>         resulting heat release.� This
>>>>>>>>>>         unusual
>>>>>>>>>>         cell operation has caused quite a reaction in the
>>>>>>>>>>         scientific
>>>>>>>>>>         community. �At this
>>>>>>>>>>         time I have built a complete new cell
>>>>>>>>>>         with every possible factor which could possibly
>>>>>>>>>>         explain the
>>>>>>>>>>         mass gain
>>>>>>>>>>         considered and documented.� The
>>>>>>>>>>         ten (10)
>>>>>>>>>>         consecutive runs on the new cell will be completed
>>>>>>>>>>         soon and a
>>>>>>>>>>         report will be
>>>>>>>>>>         forthcoming.�� What is
>>>>>>>>>>         interesting about
>>>>>>>>>>         this phenomenon is that when an eleventh run was
>>>>>>>>>>         made with the
>>>>>>>>>>         original
>>>>>>>>>>         electrolyte exactly the same amount of residue was
>>>>>>>>>>         recovered
>>>>>>>>>>         as in the previous
>>>>>>>>>>         ten
>>>>>>>>>>         runs.�����������������������������������������������������������������������
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         �
>>>>>>>>>>         Since
>>>>>>>>>>         the same electrolyte is reused each time with only
>>>>>>>>>>         distilled
>>>>>>>>>>         water being added
>>>>>>>>>>         to replace the volume lost by the removal of the
>>>>>>>>>>         solids and
>>>>>>>>>>         the water recovered
>>>>>>>>>>         by the recombination burn we are hard pressed to
>>>>>>>>>>         explain the
>>>>>>>>>>         observed
>>>>>>>>>>         phenomenon.���� The
>>>>>>>>>>         electrolyte appears
>>>>>>>>>>         stronger in mineral concentration and shows no
>>>>>>>>>>         sign of
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         depletion.��������������������������������
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         �� After conferring
>>>>>>>>>>         with
>>>>>>>>>>         Joe Tyls we arrived at
>>>>>>>>>>         the conclusion that the 77 colloidal minerals
>>>>>>>>>>         contained in the
>>>>>>>>>>         electrolyte
>>>>>>>>>>         provide the atomic templates needed for the
>>>>>>>>>>         monatomic hydrogen
>>>>>>>>>>         (father of all
>>>>>>>>>>         the elements) to replicate selected elements in
>>>>>>>>>>         this exotic
>>>>>>>>>>         mixture.� If you
>>>>>>>>>>         subscribe to the theories of the late
>>>>>>>>>>         Walter Russell and his explanation of the octave
>>>>>>>>>>         based
>>>>>>>>>>         periodic table with
>>>>>>>>>>         monatonic hydrogen being what he describes as
>>>>>>>>>>         hydrons
>>>>>>>>>>         (precursor to hydrogen)
>>>>>>>>>>         then it is possible for the replication of
>>>>>>>>>>         elements directly
>>>>>>>>>>         from energy input
>>>>>>>>>>         alone.� This is how all
>>>>>>>>>>         matter was
>>>>>>>>>>         created in the beginning as described by
>>>>>>>>>>         Schappeller in �The
>>>>>>>>>>         Physics of the
>>>>>>>>>>         Primary State of Matter�.��� I
>>>>>>>>>>         will keep
>>>>>>>>>>         all informed as to our progress and findings in
>>>>>>>>>>         this very
>>>>>>>>>>         intriguing venture.
>>>>>>>>>>         �
>>>>>>>>>>         Norman
>>>>>>>>>>         Wootan
>>>>>>>>>>         P.O.
>>>>>>>>>>         Box 141049
>>>>>>>>>>         Dallas,
>>>>>>>>>>         TX 75214
>>>>>>>>>>         (214)
>>>>>>>>>>         360-0865
>>>>>>>>>>         �
>>>>>>>>>>         �
>>>>>>>>>>         CC:� Gene Mallove,
>>>>>>>>>>         Infinite
>>>>>>>>>>         Energy
>>>>>>>>>>         CC:� Dr. John
>>>>>>>>>>         Bockris, Texas
>>>>>>>>>>         A/M
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         On 10/28/2018 1:01 AM,
>>>>>>>>>>         Jakob Wall
>>>>>>>>>>         wall_jakob@... <mailto:wall_jakob@...>
>>>>>>>>>>         [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         �
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         Thanks Norman,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         BTW, what is the most effective water split
>>>>>>>>>>         device that
>>>>>>>>>>         you ever put you hands on?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         As HHO researcher for dekades you should be
>>>>>>>>>>         able to point
>>>>>>>>>>         us directly to the most effective known!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         Please be specific about reconstruction of the
>>>>>>>>>>         same, since
>>>>>>>>>>         we are in public domain it will become public
>>>>>>>>>>         knowledge
>>>>>>>>>>         and public good. I assume you intend nothing
>>>>>>>>>>         else,rigth ?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         --------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         On Sat, 10/27/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:nwootan@...>
>>>>>>>>>>         [EVGRAY]
>>>>>>>>>>         <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>         wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's
>>>>>>>>>>         Magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>         Battery [3 Attachments]
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         To: "Bert Pool" <BertPool512@...>
>>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:BertPool512@...>,
>>>>>>>>>>         "Bob
>>>>>>>>>>         Paddock" <bob.paddock@...> <mailto:bob.paddock@...>,
>>>>>>>>>>         "joel mcclain"
>>>>>>>>>>         <joel_76670@....> <mailto:joel_76670@...>,
>>>>>>>>>>         "Jon Gentry"
>>>>>>>>>>         <jongen422@...> <mailto:jongen422@...>,
>>>>>>>>>>         "Lane Wootan"
>>>>>>>>>>         <lanewootan@...> <mailto:lanewootan@...>,
>>>>>>>>>>         "Mbking42"
>>>>>>>>>>         <mbking42@...> <mailto:mbking42@....>,
>>>>>>>>>>         "Toby Grotz"
>>>>>>>>>>         <wireless2@...> <mailto:wireless2@...>,
>>>>>>>>>>         "Phil Rembold"
>>>>>>>>>>         <prembold@...> <mailto:prembold@....>,
>>>>>>>>>>         "Angel Alvarez"
>>>>>>>>>>         <angel@...> <mailto:angel@...>,
>>>>>>>>>>         "Fredric Fletcher"
>>>>>>>>>>         <ffletcher@...> <mailto:ffletcher@...>,
>>>>>>>>>>         [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         To understand the unwinding of a thread
>>>>>>>>>>         leading
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         to Magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         Generating Hydrogen and this Magnetic Battery,
>>>>>>>>>>         we have
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         to dust off
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         our� 9th grade Chemistry Books!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         http://www.rexresearch.com/ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm�����
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         I guess Dr.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         Ehrenhaft was the first to propose a Magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>         Current.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         (Jon
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         Gentry, Your liquid metal vortex helix).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         https://revolution-green.com/can-electrolysis-powered-magnets/������
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         Ah! Ha!� more on Magnetic Currents!!!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446..html
>>>>>>>>>>         <https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446.html>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         https://www.labmanager.com/white-papers-and-application-notes/2010/05/resistivity-conductivity-measurement-of-purified-water#.W9So9uJRc2w
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         https://www.askiitians.com/forums/Physical-Chemistry/19/19074/electro-che
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpotential
>>>>>>>>>>         <https://en.m..wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpotential>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         https://www.quora.com/Why-is-oxygen-molecule-paramagnetic-although-it-does-not-contain-any-unpaired-electron
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251580541_The_effect_of_magnetic_force_on_hydrogen_production_efficiency_in_water_electrolysis
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         http://www.physicscentral.com/experiment/physicsathome/electricwhirlpool.cfm
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         http://www.linux-host.org/energy/bmagpump.htm
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         Now Jon Gentry you have your liquid metal pump
>>>>>>>>>>         so
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         that you can
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         make the helix tube Vortex!�
>>>>>>>>>>         Ferricpetacarbonyl or
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         micro fine neo
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         powder to provide the liquid metal for pump
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         circuit.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         Lots of reading here!���� Please think
>>>>>>>>>>         about the
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         ramifications of
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>         a Magnetic Current as proposed by Dr.
>>>>>>>>>>         Ehrenhaft!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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[23/92] Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery [1 Attachment]

2018-11-10T20:31:49+00:00 · bart woodard <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <YQBPR0101MB0721F8839358AC3C29ED00DECEC70@YQBPR0101MB0721.CANPRD01.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
Hi Mick,

  Well needless to say... you are charged lol!

All water from any where has different values with different mineral combinations.

So whether its been RO then distilled it will still continue with carrying its trace like (ghost)  elements. You are only looking at ppm or parts per million.

Not parts per billion and so on. Some say parts per google!

Unfortunately most will be carcinogenic due to its weight like or charges needed to extend itself  tho not all will.

Even so with the stirrer the vortex will create an implosion enhancing the ghost like values remaining.

The molecule will become broken down to several sizes smaller , lets say 5 times approximately or less or greater than.

The four principles of play come in effect.

The Four Fundamental Forces and their strengths

  *   Gravitational Force – Weakest force; but infinite range. ( Not part of standard model)
  *   Weak Nuclear Force – Next weakest; but short range.
  *   Electromagnetic Force – Stronger, with infinite range.
  *   Strong Nuclear Force – Strongest; but short range.

With in the molecule it has a characteristic tendency so as not to enhance its ph factor with straight on electrical simulated charges.

We can not for now mimic the frequency  water likes to evolve to sustain itself at keeping it at a stabilized value with in.

So circuit wise or electronically it is only a short life the ph may be increased . Tho I have not ventured out lately.

Its been several years for me so forgive my sloppy answers on recalling the research done.

Magnetic values are best used for the best overall out come. The molecule stabilizes itself after a would be spike ( Brownian Motion).

Distilled that's  acidic at 6.2  can be elevated to 7.4 after it hits 8.5 or so give or take.

It can stabilize itself to 7.4 which is where I like it to be for consumption.

Tap water, well water etc will go to ammonia like, say right up to 14- 15- ph.

Good for paint stripping lol.

So distilled @ 0 ppm  will go to 3ppm or more as well as the ph increase.

I do not want to use RO as its values can be anywhere.

The clustering effect has all the values as in one make up volume.

So you get it all , all charges , but mostly enhanced as our body only keeps the larger values and discharges the unwanted ones .

We discharge positive and maintain negative values.

In another words you get it all good with the bad. But still better than a too high ph value as this can burn your cilia and enzymes

with all and good and bad acids in digestion values.

Our mitochondria will only accept values approx one micron , so water at five or more times smaller hydrates our cells more easily.

Thus delivering any value needed to cells requiring assistance.

Hope this has some value some-wheres lol

As I said its been a while.

Bart

PS  A prof just showed up while I am typing this laughing at me .

        He says to add that the sun feels symbiotic to earth as it senses we are out of sync so its releasing more flares.

I told him its the hydrogen intent! lol



________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
Sent: November 10


Bart,

Your information including on your cat is very interesting.  I have been using distilled water that is first softened and then RO  then distilled beginning from my well.   It has a similar "drying" effect as norms wholly water though not as pronounced.

Could you please provide more information on your experiments concerning distilled water and using the magnetic stirrer and how that alkalizes the water?   The NMR and parahydrogen post if very long winded so difficult for me to get the gist of your presentation.

Thanks,

Mick

On 11/10/2018 10:37 AM, bart woodard [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:


I use a magnetic stirrer with distilled and wait for the ph to rise, the results are immediate.

https://hannainst.com/hi190m-1-magnetic-mini-stirrer.html

Mini Magnetic Stirrer (115V) - HI190M-1 - Hanna Instruments<https://hannainst.com/hi190m-1-magnetic-mini-stirrer.html>
hannainst.com
Compact. Lightweight. This mini magnetic stirrer with plastic cover can stir up to 1 liter. Big power, small footprint. Perfect for any lab!




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From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]> on behalf of Norman Wootan [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: November 10, 2018 12:34 PM
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No!� Bart, never got into that exotic element stuff!� Just followed those that were!

On 11/10/2018 10:42 AM, bart woodard [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
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Hey Norm , your life's experiences have been fruitful!! Congrats!!

Have you ever played with table top combinations� such as thorium and fluoride or the molten salt combo?

On a hobbyist� basis approach?

Rossi likes to inject nickel/mag� powder so as I see to maintain his 1k output!.

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Mick! To answer the rest of your questions:� In that ARC process you have to use carbon rods to yield the carbon monoxide & hydrogen.� (carbon source) (arc is heat source).

Holy Water was interesting part of the Elemental Replication experiment. See:�

Elemental Replication ?

�

����� Around mid September I put together an electrolysis cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold Fusion Cell with the goal of exploring the possibilities of making what is termed �Pristine Water�.�� This water which will be used by Homeopaths will have had all memory or information removed.� This is accomplished by recombining monatomic hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated in a properly designed cell.� This is the ultimate in purity since this is water with conditions at the time of original creation.� �Wholy Water�is a term coined by my dear friend and fellow researcher Joe Tyls of Vancouver, BC.�� After several weeks of successful operation producing water that had all the earmarks of a true �pristine water� a fellow researcher suggested using an alternate electrolyte.�� A solution was selected that contained 77 colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the easiest assimilated into the body.�� With the electrolyte changed the cell was put back into operation as before with a nice recombination burn and production of the sought after �pristine water�.���


The water produced in the recombination burn of the H-H-O was collected from a silica glass condenser into a silica glass beaker for sampling.� When you flipped several CCs of the water into your mouth and tried to swallow, there was nothing there.� Hmmmm!� We immediately tested the viscosity and surface tension of the water and found it to be far below human blood which means that the water diffused directly into the capillaries around the tongue therefore nothing there to swallow.� The two Doctor who were there were amazed. � To prove the theory as to information carried by water, we collected a sample of several CCs into a plastic lab cup instead of the silica glass beaker. When you flipped the several CCs into your mouth you had to immediately spit it out for it was pure taste of plastic. This water picks up signature of anything it comes into contact with.� That is why the Homeopathic Doctors wanted it for making their tinctures.��� (signature of a healing agent). ��� We had all the necessary instruments to evaluate the Pristine water. See: � https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemorheology

Hemorheology - Wikipedia<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemorheology>
en.m.wikipedia.org
Blood viscosity is a measure of the resistance of blood to flow. It can also be described as the thickness and stickiness of blood. This biophysical property makes it a critical determinant of friction against the vessel walls, the rate of venous return, the work required for the heart to pump blood, and how much oxygen is transported to tissues and organs.


�� http://www.dynalenelabs.com/testing-services/thermal-testing/viscosity-rheology/?gclid=CjwKCAiA_ZTfBRBjEiwAN6YG4SdHu5bWZ9yHLBM9VNQ0TLl4tB1hOqMvR_dOEHNbGX6k_kDHHtb5xhoCgIgQAvD_BwE �������� https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tensiometer

� https://hydramotion.com/en/technical/units-of-viscosity

I made an offer to the Doctors present that a small unit for production of a liter/day of Pristine Water via complete unit built of quartz glass could be had for $5,000. Apparently they were not that enthused as we thought!� Oh! Well!

I built numerous Pyramids of all sizes and the Orgone Accumulators and even the Cloud� Buster.�� The pyramid experiments were very interesting for real effects were shown.�� Never tested whether water would� break after treatment by either Orgone� or pyramid.��� The complete description of the 4 inch cell is in the Elemental replication Part Two. See:


Cell Description

�

��� The electrolysis cell is designed to hold one (1) liter of electrolyte and operate at approximately 150 watt power level for the production of monatomic hydrogen and� monatomic oxygen which is burned back to pure water and collected in a glass condenser.� Cell container is schedule 40 PVC pipe section 6 inches long with bottom cap cemented on.� The top of the cell has a 4 inch female thread adapter cemented on to provide access to the interior via a male threaded plug which has the gas outlet port and two electrolyte fill ports to provide for replacement of lost electrolyte on the fly for continuos operation.� Positive and negative terminals are provided for external connection of the power supply leads to the internal anode- cathode stack.

��� The cell plate stack consist of 8 anode plates and 8 cathode plates of the following sizes constructed from 316L stainless steel of 22 ga. thickness.

4 ea.� 3� X 3� plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 2.75�plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 2.5�plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 2.25� plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 2� plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 1.75� plates, and� 2 ea. 3� X 1.5� plates.� The plates are drilled and stacked with alternating anode and cathode plates spaced 1/8� apart which makes a cylindrical shaped array which fits nicely inside of the 4� ID PVC� cell container.� Electrical leads are braided copper of #10 size which are covered by shrink tubing to cover conductive surface as they pass through the electrolyte to the cell terminal bolts.� All electrical surfaces other than the anode and cathode plates are carefully covered with PVC cement to prevent deterioration from electrolyte contact.��� Please note that if allowed to come into contact with �charged� surfaces monatomic hydrogen and monatonic oxygen will imediately form into their usual occuring state as diatomic H2 and O2 molecules.

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On 11/8/2018 4:29 PM, Mick [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
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Hi Norm,

The catalysts are very interesting.� Iron Cobalt and Nickel all ferromagnetic but at different spins.

Correct me if I am wrong but based on reading your links a bingofuel type reactor using tungsten electrodes that hopefully would last much longer would likely produce OH rather than H and carbon monoxide, what do you think?

Also water is strange indeed in that a pyramid or orgone accumulator changes it and these simple changes could make for water that breaks up more easily.� I would love to know what results you demonstrated with the totally juvenile memory free water you put back together from the OH?�

Sorry to hear about your neck fracture, I have a similar issue and it is extremely painful and debilitating at times.

Mick

On 11/7/2018 4:15 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
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On 11/7/2018 6:06 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:

Jakob Wall! & all other researchers on here need to read the Whole Story as to why I no longer have a research lab.� Jakob, I'm sorry I did not reveal to you the BEST in my opinion of methods of producing hydrogen gas for I felt it was a little too advanced and difficult for you to experiment with.� See: https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en .�� There is a very long story behind this US Patent and a hell of a lot of research. The quest for a very inexpensive method of splitting water has been the Holy Grail of� cheap energy.�� In addition to the research papers and links that I gave to you, here are some more to dwell on.

https://www.researchgate.net/post/At_what_temperature_water_will_decompose_to_Oxygen_and_Hydrogen<https://www..researchgate.net/post/At_what_temperature_water_will_decompose_to_Oxygen_and_Hydrogen>

https://www.quora.com/Does-water-break-down-into-oxygen-and-hydrogen-at-high-temperatures-If-so-then-at-what-temperature<https://www..quora.com/Does-water-break-down-into-oxygen-and-hydrogen-at-high-temperatures-If-so-then-at-what-temperature>

https://www.quora.com/How-much-water-can-you-split-into-hydrogen-and-oxygen-using-electrolysis-with-one-kilowatt-hour-of-electricity<https://www..quora.com/How-much-water-can-you-split-into-hydrogen-and-oxygen-using-electrolysis-with-one-kilowatt-hour-of-electricity>

http://www.redrok.com/hion96a1.htm

https://www.nature.com/articles/nplants201741<https://www..nature.com/articles/nplants201741>�� Please read carefully about the play of Nickel in this approach!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_splitting

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water-gas_shift_reaction��� I owned 77 acres of land in Eureka Springs, AR where they still had the old water gas generator and gas storage facility.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decarboxylation

https://phys.org/news/2018-02-uncovers-mechanism-water-splitting-catalyst.html

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/new-catalyst-could-split-water-cheaply/<https://www..scientificamerican.com/article/new-catalyst-could-split-water-cheaply/>

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/512996/a-cheaper-way-to-make-hydrogen-from-water/<https://www..technologyreview.com/s/512996/a-cheaper-way-to-make-hydrogen-from-water/>

"SUPER STEAM - A Tesla conference in Colorado surfaces new Super Steam Technology (SST). Leonard Dorsett and friends from Texas share strikingly similar views to Aquarian Agency Ltd. They have technology which produces steam instantly at up to 3,000F without a boiler and with 60% savings in fuel over traditional boilers. Nitrogen rich, it can put out gasoline fires and treat many waste problems. Of major importance to Aquarian, this nitrogen-rich steam will help to produce heat and Aquastone at considerable savings."

For further information on Aquarian Agency Ltd. they can be contacted at 38 Weir Rd, Wimbledon, London SW19 SUG, England or on Internet at <aquarian ocign.ape.org>. SUPER STEAM TECHNOLOGY PART 2[http://astrosa.com/n95/n059501.gif]

Leonard Dorsett (PO Box 365, Grapevine, TX 76092) demonstrated his Super Steam Technology at the 1994 International Tesla Symposium. SST is a system for producing steam at any temperature or pressure independently and instantly without the need for a conventional boiler. It can instantly produce steam of any temperature from hot water at 180F to super heated steam at over 3000F, while pressures can vary from 1PSI to 3000PSI with airflow volumes of 1CFM up to over 2000CFM. The system operates on propane, methane, petrol, kerosene, methanol, diesel, hydrogen or just about anything else that bums and converts virtually 100% of the fuel into usable energy. (Note: The person in the picture is Norman Wootan of MRA fame)

This all sounds great, but how does it work? The basis of the unit is a specially designed open throat chamber with controlled air, water and fuel interaction and a high voltage ignition resulting in a direct fire process establishing thermal zones. This creates a stoichiometric condition resulting in a full spectrum of steam product. Now comes the interesting part At the increased temperatures of steam, disassociation occurs. (Could this be a clue to running cars on water??) The hydrogen and oxygen reacts causing an exponential increase of energy resulting in super heated steam. A similar superheat process was addressed by Tesla in the October 12, 1911 publication of the "Engineering News Record".

Applications of the SST system include a much more economical way of producing electricity as no conventional boiler is needed. It will also be an ideal low cost method for heating and cooling homes and businesses. Small portable units can be developed for home use, such as steam cleaning, and insect and ant removal, without the dangers of insecticides. The system can also be used for low cost purification of polluted water or sewerage and can also convert salt water into drinking water both quickly and inexpensively. Other uses are in fire fighting applications, ice and snow removal from roads, etc. and sterilization and nurturing of soil for agriculture where contamination has occurred.

I had designed a method of making hydrogen from carbon & water vapor using the Tesla Atomic Bombardment method of high frequency inside of spherical inclosure like this experiments with the carbon button lamp globes.�� After working with Leonard Dorsett and his Super Steam Project, I chose to use the Water Shift Process instead.� A side note is needed here!� The Super Steam Process was a result of Professor Brown studying the method the German's used for torpedo propulsion from WWI.� Acetylene Gas and sea water produced an exothermic reaction generating Super Steam. Brown built several reactors and tested them in the Tulsa area to break (down hole) the parafin deposits to release crude oil.

The Chemical equation for the reaction in the US Patent: https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en

(6C + 12 H2O� = 6CO2 + 24H)

Hydrogen Reactor Development

�

Original concept design was a high voltage, high frequency resonant device that utilized carbon water reaction with the feedstock being in the form of graphite rod stock.� This unit was designed for vehicle application and had too many limitations to be used for mass hydrogen generation.� This type reactor is very effective at hydrogen production since it targets the water vapor molecule at MRI frequencies, which breaks the bonding, allowing the carbon to latch onto the oxygen atoms leaving the hydrogen free. This device was a closed system that used a simple CO2/hydrogen separation stage that enabled the hydrogen to be feed to an internal combustion engine.

�

To allow for a sustained high mass flow of hydrogen gas output, reactor design took on a radical change.� By incorporating the Ranque/Hilsch, Counter Flow Implosion Vortex Principle, and continuous high mass flow and gas separation were achieved in one stage of operation.� Feedstock for this type reactor could be any carbon-based material that could be put into a powder form.� Highest carbon content of the feedstock provides for the most efficient hydrogen production with the least undesirable output material.

�

Super high temperature operating regime was chosen to be above 2500 C for the purpose of producing atomic hydrogen in the process.� The original reactor operated at temperatures that easily gasified basic carbon into a plasma state (>10,000 F) more easily allowing the production of hydrogen from the stoichiometric feed stock ratios.


[cid:[email protected]]

I sold one of my Patents (Sonodiffuser) and paid for my 52 acres of land and built a 5200 sq. Ft. lab the do the Prototype machining and Proof of Concept testing for GAZPROM, Moscow in 2005. A $1.2 million investment and they got the rights to the process and I got the beautiful Research Lab all paid in full. I was a self employed Contractor in Dallas working with HVAC, Electrical and Electronics Maintenance so had to commute 170 miles/day and only had the week ends for my time! Having to mow grass and maintane the 52 acres took all my time and when I suffered a neck fracture in 2012, had to retire. Liquidated the entire facility and sold it off. Moved to Dallas then to South Louisiana where I now do a lot of relaxing and fishing!

Hector and ALL, I did my time in the Barrel so now I will just contribute to the dialog inorder to assist any research you may be doing within my area of experitise!���� BTW! I have been out to pasture for a long time now, so no BULL offense!� As Hector knows, "It fits"! Lol



[cid:[email protected]]

Yes! Hector, I will wear my Border Patrol Hat when you come visit from PR!� Lol




On 11/6/2018 8:52 PM, [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
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By the way ... i can hit mega millions or the power ball� . i never will not have a lab i can work in,� that is worst than death , you have no idea of the technology that had being lost by the greedy fucking bastards fucking my life , they will loose all they have� "soon" because it had being engineered that way by accumulative bad karma, i have another lab they will never reach or be able to intercept or destroy and that will decide their fate ..... they will be fucked hard !



(H)� �

---In [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>, <mkjekyll@...><mailto:mkjekyll@...> wrote :


Cmon Hector,

Bad taste!

The man had a more serious lab than anyone else here and his work speaks for itself.� Maybe he has gained the fortune he desired through R&D and now shitting in tall cotton or gone fishing reaping the rewards of retirement. Notwithstanding is still kind enough to help point us in the right directions around here.

"Funny�I can look back on a life of achievement, on challenges met, competitors bested, obstacles overcome. I�ve accomplished more than most men, and without the use of my legs. What?What makes a man, Mr. Lebowski?"

On 11/6/2018 8:04 AM, arkresearch@...<mailto:arkresearch@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
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Dar n ! a Scientist inventor with no lab is like a breeding bull with no balls !

[Balls Cow                                                           GIF - Balls                                                           Cow                                                           WingDangDoodle                                                           GIFs]


---In [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>, <nwootan@...><mailto:nwootan@...> wrote :


Jacob! You asked me a question and I gave you my opinion!� I'm totally retired at 80 years old and have no lab to experiment in!� Your quote; I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. '' Slow down boy, we get paid for llooking for solutions, not to find them!''�� That certainly does not apply to me for I have shared all with the folks on this site.� I find you statement very interesting:� Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours with usual amount of gas looks to me extremely inefficient.�� ??????������� Care to share where you saw the power of a permanent magnet being used up!�� We all here on this site share what ever knowledge we have on the various subjects not seeking any monetary gain in any way! That is my approach!�� I just contribute to the dialog when I run across something interesting and think it will assist you guys!�� Norm

On 11/3/2018 11:32 PM, Jakob Wall wall_jakob@...<mailto:wall_jakob@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
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Thanks Norman,
But i actually asced for ''most efficient way'' to split water known to you!
I realize there are a lot of different technigues to do just that.
And yes i realize you could give me a rather complex answer. But instead i hope for a
rather easy and reproductive answer since i am looking forward to solve my enerrgy
problems i just can not live with the momentary (sad and very stupid energy situation)
I am still not giving up becouse of a couple mistakes and misunderstandings..
If i would be a car dealer and you would ask me for a most efficient car available on the market
i would for sure not recommend a Prius, since there are a lot of cars with better fuel economie
even without being a hybrid and without additional cost like batterys,e-motors and a bunch added ECU's

Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours with usual amount of gas looks to me extremely
inefficient.
Also very expensive HHO-Garage products with output of 1,6 ltr/min.
Come on, 6 rusty nails and a old car batery does this job, no need to spend 1600 bucks on it.
I honestly expected solide advise or a honest NO way boy, i just talking around.

I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. '' Slow down boy, we get paid for llooking for
solutions, not to find them!'' That shoked me deeply and even if i get 150 years old, i will not forget it.
Thats true treason on mankind and deciving the people. I really hope nobody on this forum only care
about what he/she will be doing tomorrow.

Jakob

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Jacob!� That would be a rather complex answer
but here is your
starting point!
https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct-thermomagnetic-splitting-of-water-.html���
After having been heavily involved in the COLD FUSION
Research
back in the 70s and 80s I quickly settled o0n the best
catalyst in
electrolytic cells which is pure nickel. I still have
the cell
used in the Elemental Replication experiments.


http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm����
The hidden
part of this research is the use of a nickel component
in the
combustion chamber. Bosch developed 90,000V ignition
systems to
enable water injection in gas engine which high
lighted the
Graneau HV decomposition of water via HVDC
discharge!
My magnetic Battery when run as an electrolytic cell
to produce
hydrogen does produce a huge amount of hydrogen gas as
shown by
the Dr. Ehrenhaft document.� I would tell you to
pursue the super
high Tesla magnetic flux and nickel electrodes in an
electrolytic
cell.� The major obstacle to be overcome is the rapid
collection
of ions from solution by the 1.3 Tesla flux across a
..020"
mechanical gap which quickly takes the cell into a
super-conduction mode which takes out the driving DC
power supply.
You can flush the magnetic gaps with distilled water
and the gaps
will show in the meg-ohm range then go to zero ohms
after a short
period of running, the gathered ions totally short
cell. During
the brief runs there is a huge amount of hydrogen gas
produced�
which I burned off as it was generated.� Much can be
said about
driving the cell with high frequencies as the Myers
research
showed.� Our friend up in Canada at George Wiseman,
Eagle Research
is running well ahead of the crowd on the production
of H-H-O.
Just for giggles!


16 October
1996
To: Hal
Fox,� Fusion Facts
Elemental
Replication ?
�
����� Around mid
September
I put together an
electrolysis cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold
Fusion Cell
with the goal of
exploring the possibilities of making what is
termed �Pristine
Water�.�� This water
which will be used by Homeopaths
will have had all memory or information
removed.� This is accomplished by
recombining monatomic
hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated in a
properly
designed cell.� This is
the ultimate in purity since this is
water with conditions at the time of original
creation.� �Holly Water�is a term
coined by my dear
friend and fellow researcher Joe Tyls of
Vancouver, BC.�� After several weeks of
successful operation
producing water that had all the earmarks of a
true �pristine
water� a fellow
researcher suggested using an alternate
electrolyte.�� A solution was selected
that contained 77
colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the
easiest
assimilated into the
body.�� With the
electrolyte changed the
cell was put back into operation as before with a
nice
recombination burn and
production of the sought after �pristine
water�.�������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������
�������
��� After about an
hour of
operation the cell
went absolutely �nuts� with the temperature
rapidly climbing
to boiling point
and the current out of sight.�
When the
cell was opened we found a deep red sludge deposit
which
shorted the cell
plates.�� Our first
thought was that the
electrolytic action precipitated out the colloidal
minerals
which caused the
deposit found.�� The�
electrolyte was allowed
to settle out the
precipitate.�� After�
decanting off,� the clear electrolyte
was
returned to the
cell for another run. Again the cell operated
normally for
about an hour with a
normal recombination burn and recovery of the
water being
consumed by the cell
in the splitting action.�� Again
the cell
temperature and current mirrored the first
run.�
Again the cell contained the same amount of
sludge
residue.�� This process
was repeated ten (10) times
with exactly the same results.��
All of
the sludge was carefully dried and weighed on an
electronic
scale with a five
decimal
resolution.���������������������
The cell plates and all hardware were
weighed to
determine any loss of
mass that may contribute to the mass gain observed
in the
sludge.� Five hundred
(500) ml of the original
electrolyte solution used in the cell was vacuum
distilled to
determine the
exact mass of colloidal minerals
contained.�
When all factors were considered we came
out with a
mass gain of� 48 gm
which cannot be explained by
conventional
electrolysis.����������������������

��� After talking
to Dr.
Robert Bass and Hal
Fox I learned of a patent that has been filed on
the
transmutation of elements
in the cold fusion cell which is the process that
Dr. John
Bockris has been so
active in.�� Both Dr.
Bass and Hal Fox
stated that what I was observing is not the same
as the
transmutation observed
in the cold fusion cell since I have a overall
mass gain and
not a lateral
movement of elements in the periodic table toward
lighter
elements with a
resulting heat release.� This
unusual
cell operation has caused quite a reaction in the
scientific
community. �At this
time I have built a complete new cell
with every possible factor which could possibly
explain the
mass gain
considered and documented.� The
ten (10)
consecutive runs on the new cell will be completed
soon and a
report will be
forthcoming.�� What is
interesting about
this phenomenon is that when an eleventh run was
made with the
original
electrolyte exactly the same amount of residue was
recovered
as in the previous
ten
runs.�����������������������������������������������������������������������

�
Since
the same electrolyte is reused each time with only
distilled
water being added
to replace the volume lost by the removal of the
solids and
the water recovered
by the recombination burn we are hard pressed to
explain the
observed
phenomenon.���� The
electrolyte appears
stronger in mineral concentration and shows no
sign of

depletion.��������������������������������

�� After conferring
with
Joe Tyls we arrived at
the conclusion that the 77 colloidal minerals
contained in the
electrolyte
provide the atomic templates needed for the
monatomic hydrogen
(father of all
the elements) to replicate selected elements in
this exotic
mixture.� If you
subscribe to the theories of the late
Walter Russell and his explanation of the octave
based
periodic table with
monatonic hydrogen being what he describes as
hydrons
(precursor to hydrogen)
then it is possible for the replication of
elements directly
from energy input
alone.� This is how all
matter was
created in the beginning as described by
Schappeller in �The
Physics of the
Primary State of Matter�.��� I
will keep
all informed as to our progress and findings in
this very
intriguing venture.
�
Norman
Wootan
P.O.
Box 141049
Dallas,
TX 75214
(214)
360-0865
�
�
CC:� Gene Mallove,
Infinite
Energy
CC:� Dr. John
Bockris, Texas
A/M






On 10/28/2018 1:01 AM,
Jakob Wall
wall_jakob@...<mailto:wall_jakob@...>
[EVGRAY] wrote:




�


Thanks Norman,



BTW, what is the most effective water split
device that
you ever put you hands on?

As HHO researcher for dekades you should be
able to point
us directly to the most effective known!

Please be specific about reconstruction of the
same, since
we are in public domain it will become public
knowledge
and public good. I assume you intend nothing
else,rigth ?


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On Sat, 10/27/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@...<mailto:nwootan@...>
[EVGRAY]
<[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>
wrote:



Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's
Magnetic
Battery [3 Attachments]

To: "Bert Pool" <BertPool512@...><mailto:BertPool512@...>,
"Bob
Paddock" <bob.paddock@...><mailto:bob.paddock@...>,
"joel mcclain"
<joel_76670@...><mailto:joel_76670@...>,
"Jon Gentry"
<jongen422@...><mailto:jongen422@...>,
"Lane Wootan"
<lanewootan@...><mailto:lanewootan@...>,
"Mbking42"
<mbking42@...><mailto:mbking42@....>,
"Toby Grotz"
<wireless2@...><mailto:wireless2@...>,
"Phil Rembold"
<prembold@...><mailto:prembold@....>,
"Angel Alvarez"
<angel@...><mailto:angel@...>,
"Fredric Fletcher"
<ffletcher@...><mailto:ffletcher@...>,
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

To understand the unwinding of a thread
leading

to Magnetic

Generating Hydrogen and this Magnetic Battery,
we have

to dust off

our� 9th grade Chemistry Books!

http://www.rexresearch.com/ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm�����

I guess Dr.

Ehrenhaft was the first to propose a Magnetic
Current.

(Jon

Gentry, Your liquid metal vortex helix).

https://revolution-green.com/can-electrolysis-powered-magnets/������

Ah! Ha!� more on Magnetic Currents!!!

https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446..html<https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446.html>

https://www.labmanager.com/white-papers-and-application-notes/2010/05/resistivity-conductivity-measurement-of-purified-water#.W9So9uJRc2w

https://www.askiitians.com/forums/Physical-Chemistry/19/19074/electro-che

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpotential

https://www.quora.com/Why-is-oxygen-molecule-paramagnetic-although-it-does-not-contain-any-unpaired-electron

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251580541_The_effect_of_magnetic_force_on_hydrogen_production_efficiency_in_water_electrolysis

http://www.physicscentral.com/experiment/physicsathome/electricwhirlpool.cfm

http://www.linux-host.org/energy/bmagpump.htm

Now Jon Gentry you have your liquid metal pump
so

that you can

make the helix tube Vortex!�
Ferricpetacarbonyl or

micro fine neo

powder to provide the liquid metal for pump

circuit.

Lots of reading here!���� Please think
about the

ramifications of

a Magnetic Current as proposed by Dr.
Ehrenhaft!























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[24/92] Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery [3 Attachments]

2018-11-10T20:34:46+00:00 · bart woodard <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <YQBPR0101MB072103700D700B9C076A830CCEC70@YQBPR0101MB0721.CANPRD01.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
Norm

  Yes these are the pics I remember ! lol

  I made up a system to produce gallons of it.

My friends make wine and beer with it.

We have done blood tests to show while drinking it it assist the liver function LOL


________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
Sent: November 10, 2018 2:46 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery [3 Attachments]



Bart, I have been drinking 4 liters a day of Magnet Treated Water sine Dr. John Miliweski introduced it to me back in 2001. You may have seen how my unit is constructed sine I have posted it before.

[cid:[email protected]]

[cid:[email protected]]

On 11/10/2018 12:45 PM, Mick [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
�

Bart,

Your information including on your cat is very interesting.� I have been using distilled water that is first softened and then RO� then distilled beginning from my well.�� It has a similar "drying" effect as norms wholly water though not as pronounced.

Could you please provide more information on your experiments concerning distilled water and using the magnetic stirrer and how that alkalizes the water?�� The NMR and parahydrogen post if very long winded so difficult for me to get the gist of your presentation.

Thanks,

Mick

On 11/10/2018 10:37 AM, bart woodard [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
�

I use a magnetic stirrer with distilled and wait for the ph to rise, the results are immediate.

https://hannainst.com/hi190m-1-magnetic-mini-stirrer.html

Mini Magnetic Stirrer (115V) - HI190M-1 - Hanna Instruments<https://hannainst.com/hi190m-1-magnetic-mini-stirrer.html>
hannainst.com
Compact. Lightweight. This mini magnetic stirrer with plastic cover can stir up to 1 liter. Big power, small footprint. Perfect for any lab!




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From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]> on behalf of Norman Wootan [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: November 10, 2018 12:34 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery [2 Attachments]
�
�

No!� Bart, never got into that exotic element stuff!� Just followed those that were!

On 11/10/2018 10:42 AM, bart woodard [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
�

Hey Norm , your life's experiences have been fruitful!! Congrats!!

Have you ever played with table top combinations� such as thorium and fluoride or the molten salt combo?

On a hobbyist� basis approach?

Rossi likes to inject nickel/mag� powder so as I see to maintain his 1k output!.

________________________________
From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]> on behalf of Norman Wootan [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: November 9, 2018 3:12 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery [2 Attachments]
�
�

Mick! To answer the rest of your questions:� In that ARC process you have to use carbon rods to yield the carbon monoxide & hydrogen.� (carbon source) (arc is heat source).

Holy Water was interesting part of the Elemental Replication experiment. See:�

Elemental Replication ?

�

����� Around mid September I put together an electrolysis cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold Fusion Cell with the goal of exploring the possibilities of making what is termed �Pristine Water�.�� This water which will be used by Homeopaths will have had all memory or information removed.� This is accomplished by recombining monatomic hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated in a properly designed cell.� This is the ultimate in purity since this is water with conditions at the time of original creation.� �Wholy Water�is a term coined by my dear friend and fellow researcher Joe Tyls of Vancouver, BC.�� After several weeks of successful operation producing water that had all the earmarks of a true �pristine water� a fellow researcher suggested using an alternate electrolyte.�� A solution was selected that contained 77 colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the easiest assimilated into the body.�� With the electrolyte changed the cell was put back into operation as before with a nice recombination burn and production of the sought after �pristine water�.���


The water produced in the recombination burn of the H-H-O was collected from a silica glass condenser into a silica glass beaker for sampling.� When you flipped several CCs of the water into your mouth and tried to swallow, there was nothing there.� Hmmmm!� We immediately tested the viscosity and surface tension of the water and found it to be far below human blood which means that the water diffused directly into the capillaries around the tongue therefore nothing there to swallow.� The two Doctor who were there were amazed. � To prove the theory as to information carried by water, we collected a sample of several CCs into a plastic lab cup instead of the silica glass beaker. When you flipped the several CCs into your mouth you had to immediately spit it out for it was pure taste of plastic. This water picks up signature of anything it comes into contact with.� That is why the Homeopathic Doctors wanted it for making their tinctures.��� (signature of a healing agent). ��� We had all the necessary instruments to evaluate the Pristine water. See: � https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemorheology

Hemorheology - Wikipedia<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemorheology>
en.m.wikipedia.org
Blood viscosity is a measure of the resistance of blood to flow. It can also be described as the thickness and stickiness of blood. This biophysical property makes it a critical determinant of friction against the vessel walls, the rate of venous return, the work required for the heart to pump blood, and how much oxygen is transported to tissues and organs.


�� http://www.dynalenelabs.com/testing-services/thermal-testing/viscosity-rheology/?gclid=CjwKCAiA_ZTfBRBjEiwAN6YG4SdHu5bWZ9yHLBM9VNQ0TLl4tB1hOqMvR_dOEHNbGX6k_kDHHtb5xhoCgIgQAvD_BwE �������� https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tensiometer

� https://hydramotion.com/en/technical/units-of-viscosity

I made an offer to the Doctors present that a small unit for production of a liter/day of Pristine Water via complete unit built of quartz glass could be had for $5,000. Apparently they were not that enthused as we thought!� Oh! Well!

I built numerous Pyramids of all sizes and the Orgone Accumulators and even the Cloud� Buster.�� The pyramid experiments were very interesting for real effects were shown.�� Never tested whether water would� break after treatment by either Orgone� or pyramid.��� The complete description of the 4 inch cell is in the Elemental replication Part Two. See:


Cell Description

�

��� The electrolysis cell is designed to hold one (1) liter of electrolyte and operate at approximately 150 watt power level for the production of monatomic hydrogen and� monatomic oxygen which is burned back to pure water and collected in a glass condenser.� Cell container is schedule 40 PVC pipe section 6 inches long with bottom cap cemented on.� The top of the cell has a 4 inch female thread adapter cemented on to provide access to the interior via a male threaded plug which has the gas outlet port and two electrolyte fill ports to provide for replacement of lost electrolyte on the fly for continuos operation.� Positive and negative terminals are provided for external connection of the power supply leads to the internal anode- cathode stack.

��� The cell plate stack consist of 8 anode plates and 8 cathode plates of the following sizes constructed from 316L stainless steel of 22 ga. thickness.

4 ea.� 3� X 3� plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 2.75�plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 2.5�plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 2.25� plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 2� plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 1.75� plates, and� 2 ea. 3� X 1.5� plates.� The plates are drilled and stacked with alternating anode and cathode plates spaced 1/8� apart which makes a cylindrical shaped array which fits nicely inside of the 4� ID PVC� cell container.� Electrical leads are braided copper of #10 size which are covered by shrink tubing to cover conductive surface as they pass through the electrolyte to the cell terminal bolts.� All electrical surfaces other than the anode and cathode plates are carefully covered with PVC cement to prevent deterioration from electrolyte contact.��� Please note that if allowed to come into contact with �charged� surfaces monatomic hydrogen and monatonic oxygen will imediately form into their usual occuring state as diatomic H2 and O2 molecules.

���������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������

On 11/8/2018 4:29 PM, Mick [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
�

Hi Norm,

The catalysts are very interesting.� Iron Cobalt and Nickel all ferromagnetic but at different spins.

Correct me if I am wrong but based on reading your links a bingofuel type reactor using tungsten electrodes that hopefully would last much longer would likely produce OH rather than H and carbon monoxide, what do you think?

Also water is strange indeed in that a pyramid or orgone accumulator changes it and these simple changes could make for water that breaks up more easily.� I would love to know what results you demonstrated with the totally juvenile memory free water you put back together from the OH?�

Sorry to hear about your neck fracture, I have a similar issue and it is extremely painful and debilitating at times.

Mick

On 11/7/2018 4:15 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
�


On 11/7/2018 6:06 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:

Jakob Wall! & all other researchers on here need to read the Whole Story as to why I no longer have a research lab.� Jakob, I'm sorry I did not reveal to you the BEST in my opinion of methods of producing hydrogen gas for I felt it was a little too advanced and difficult for you to experiment with.� See: https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en .�� There is a very long story behind this US Patent and a hell of a lot of research. The quest for a very inexpensive method of splitting water has been the Holy Grail of� cheap energy.�� In addition to the research papers and links that I gave to you, here are some more to dwell on.

https://www.researchgate.net/post/At_what_temperature_water_will_decompose_to_Oxygen_and_Hydrogen<https://www..researchgate.net/post/At_what_temperature_water_will_decompose_to_Oxygen_and_Hydrogen>

https://www.quora.com/Does-water-break-down-into-oxygen-and-hydrogen-at-high-temperatures-If-so-then-at-what-temperature<https://www..quora.com/Does-water-break-down-into-oxygen-and-hydrogen-at-high-temperatures-If-so-then-at-what-temperature>

https://www.quora.com/How-much-water-can-you-split-into-hydrogen-and-oxygen-using-electrolysis-with-one-kilowatt-hour-of-electricity<https://www..quora.com/How-much-water-can-you-split-into-hydrogen-and-oxygen-using-electrolysis-with-one-kilowatt-hour-of-electricity>

http://www.redrok.com/hion96a1.htm

https://www.nature.com/articles/nplants201741<https://www..nature.com/articles/nplants201741>�� Please read carefully about the play of Nickel in this approach!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_splitting

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water-gas_shift_reaction��� I owned 77 acres of land in Eureka Springs, AR where they still had the old water gas generator and gas storage facility.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decarboxylation

https://phys.org/news/2018-02-uncovers-mechanism-water-splitting-catalyst.html

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/new-catalyst-could-split-water-cheaply/<https://www..scientificamerican.com/article/new-catalyst-could-split-water-cheaply/>

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/512996/a-cheaper-way-to-make-hydrogen-from-water/<https://www..technologyreview.com/s/512996/a-cheaper-way-to-make-hydrogen-from-water/>

"SUPER STEAM - A Tesla conference in Colorado surfaces new Super Steam Technology (SST). Leonard Dorsett and friends from Texas share strikingly similar views to Aquarian Agency Ltd. They have technology which produces steam instantly at up to 3,000F without a boiler and with 60% savings in fuel over traditional boilers. Nitrogen rich, it can put out gasoline fires and treat many waste problems. Of major importance to Aquarian, this nitrogen-rich steam will help to produce heat and Aquastone at considerable savings."

For further information on Aquarian Agency Ltd. they can be contacted at 38 Weir Rd, Wimbledon, London SW19 SUG, England or on Internet at <aquarian ocign.ape.org>. SUPER STEAM TECHNOLOGY PART 2[http://astrosa.com/n95/n059501.gif]

Leonard Dorsett (PO Box 365, Grapevine, TX 76092) demonstrated his Super Steam Technology at the 1994 International Tesla Symposium. SST is a system for producing steam at any temperature or pressure independently and instantly without the need for a conventional boiler. It can instantly produce steam of any temperature from hot water at 180F to super heated steam at over 3000F, while pressures can vary from 1PSI to 3000PSI with airflow volumes of 1CFM up to over 2000CFM. The system operates on propane, methane, petrol, kerosene, methanol, diesel, hydrogen or just about anything else that bums and converts virtually 100% of the fuel into usable energy. (Note: The person in the picture is Norman Wootan of MRA fame)

This all sounds great, but how does it work? The basis of the unit is a specially designed open throat chamber with controlled air, water and fuel interaction and a high voltage ignition resulting in a direct fire process establishing thermal zones. This creates a stoichiometric condition resulting in a full spectrum of steam product. Now comes the interesting part At the increased temperatures of steam, disassociation occurs. (Could this be a clue to running cars on water??) The hydrogen and oxygen reacts causing an exponential increase of energy resulting in super heated steam. A similar superheat process was addressed by Tesla in the October 12, 1911 publication of the "Engineering News Record".

Applications of the SST system include a much more economical way of producing electricity as no conventional boiler is needed. It will also be an ideal low cost method for heating and cooling homes and businesses. Small portable units can be developed for home use, such as steam cleaning, and insect and ant removal, without the dangers of insecticides. The system can also be used for low cost purification of polluted water or sewerage and can also convert salt water into drinking water both quickly and inexpensively. Other uses are in fire fighting applications, ice and snow removal from roads, etc. and sterilization and nurturing of soil for agriculture where contamination has occurred.

I had designed a method of making hydrogen from carbon & water vapor using the Tesla Atomic Bombardment method of high frequency inside of spherical inclosure like this experiments with the carbon button lamp globes.�� After working with Leonard Dorsett and his Super Steam Project, I chose to use the Water Shift Process instead.� A side note is needed here!� The Super Steam Process was a result of Professor Brown studying the method the German's used for torpedo propulsion from WWI.� Acetylene Gas and sea water produced an exothermic reaction generating Super Steam. Brown built several reactors and tested them in the Tulsa area to break (down hole) the parafin deposits to release crude oil.

The Chemical equation for the reaction in the US Patent: https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en

(6C + 12 H2O� = 6CO2 + 24H)

Hydrogen Reactor Development

�

Original concept design was a high voltage, high frequency resonant device that utilized carbon water reaction with the feedstock being in the form of graphite rod stock.� This unit was designed for vehicle application and had too many limitations to be used for mass hydrogen generation.� This type reactor is very effective at hydrogen production since it targets the water vapor molecule at MRI frequencies, which breaks the bonding, allowing the carbon to latch onto the oxygen atoms leaving the hydrogen free. This device was a closed system that used a simple CO2/hydrogen separation stage that enabled the hydrogen to be feed to an internal combustion engine.

�

To allow for a sustained high mass flow of hydrogen gas output, reactor design took on a radical change.� By incorporating the Ranque/Hilsch, Counter Flow Implosion Vortex Principle, and continuous high mass flow and gas separation were achieved in one stage of operation.� Feedstock for this type reactor could be any carbon-based material that could be put into a powder form.� Highest carbon content of the feedstock provides for the most efficient hydrogen production with the least undesirable output material.

�

Super high temperature operating regime was chosen to be above 2500 C for the purpose of producing atomic hydrogen in the process.� The original reactor operated at temperatures that easily gasified basic carbon into a plasma state (>10,000 F) more easily allowing the production of hydrogen from the stoichiometric feed stock ratios.


[cid:[email protected]]

I sold one of my Patents (Sonodiffuser) and paid for my 52 acres of land and built a 5200 sq. Ft. lab the do the Prototype machining and Proof of Concept testing for GAZPROM, Moscow in 2005. A $1.2 million investment and they got the rights to the process and I got the beautiful Research Lab all paid in full. I was a self employed Contractor in Dallas working with HVAC, Electrical and Electronics Maintenance so had to commute 170 miles/day and only had the week ends for my time! Having to mow grass and maintane the 52 acres took all my time and when I suffered a neck fracture in 2012, had to retire. Liquidated the entire facility and sold it off. Moved to Dallas then to South Louisiana where I now do a lot of relaxing and fishing!

Hector and ALL, I did my time in the Barrel so now I will just contribute to the dialog inorder to assist any research you may be doing within my area of experitise!���� BTW! I have been out to pasture for a long time now, so no BULL offense!� As Hector knows, "It fits"! Lol



[cid:[email protected]]

Yes! Hector, I will wear my Border Patrol Hat when you come visit from PR!� Lol




On 11/6/2018 8:52 PM, [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
�

By the way ... i can hit mega millions or the power ball� . i never will not have a lab i can work in,� that is worst than death , you have no idea of the technology that had being lost by the greedy fucking bastards fucking my life , they will loose all they have� "soon" because it had being engineered that way by accumulative bad karma, i have another lab they will never reach or be able to intercept or destroy and that will decide their fate ..... they will be fucked hard !



(H)� �

---In [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>, <mkjekyll@...><mailto:mkjekyll@...> wrote :


Cmon Hector,

Bad taste!

The man had a more serious lab than anyone else here and his work speaks for itself.� Maybe he has gained the fortune he desired through R&D and now shitting in tall cotton or gone fishing reaping the rewards of retirement. Notwithstanding is still kind enough to help point us in the right directions around here.

"Funny�I can look back on a life of achievement, on challenges met, competitors bested, obstacles overcome. I�ve accomplished more than most men, and without the use of my legs. What?What makes a man, Mr. Lebowski?"

On 11/6/2018 8:04 AM, arkresearch@...<mailto:arkresearch@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
�

Dar n ! a Scientist inventor with no lab is like a breeding bull with no balls !

[Balls                                                           Cow  GIF -                                                           Balls                                                            Cow                                                            WingDangDoodle                                                            GIFs]


---In [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>, <nwootan@...><mailto:nwootan@...> wrote :


Jacob! You asked me a question and I gave you my opinion!� I'm totally retired at 80 years old and have no lab to experiment in!� Your quote; I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. '' Slow down boy, we get paid for llooking for solutions, not to find them!''�� That certainly does not apply to me for I have shared all with the folks on this site.� I find you statement very interesting:� Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours with usual amount of gas looks to me extremely inefficient.�� ??????������� Care to share where you saw the power of a permanent magnet being used up!�� We all here on this site share what ever knowledge we have on the various subjects not seeking any monetary gain in any way! That is my approach!�� I just contribute to the dialog when I run across something interesting and think it will assist you guys!�� Norm

On 11/3/2018 11:32 PM, Jakob Wall wall_jakob@...<mailto:wall_jakob@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
�

Thanks Norman,
But i actually asced for ''most efficient way'' to split water known to you!
I realize there are a lot of different technigues to do just that.
And yes i realize you could give me a rather complex answer. But instead i hope for a
rather easy and reproductive answer since i am looking forward to solve my enerrgy
problems i just can not live with the momentary (sad and very stupid energy situation)
I am still not giving up becouse of a couple mistakes and misunderstandings..
If i would be a car dealer and you would ask me for a most efficient car available on the market
i would for sure not recommend a Prius, since there are a lot of cars with better fuel economie
even without being a hybrid and without additional cost like batterys,e-motors and a bunch added ECU's

Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours with usual amount of gas looks to me extremely
inefficient.
Also very expensive HHO-Garage products with output of 1,6 ltr/min.
Come on, 6 rusty nails and a old car batery does this job, no need to spend 1600 bucks on it.
I honestly expected solide advise or a honest NO way boy, i just talking around.

I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. '' Slow down boy, we get paid for llooking for
solutions, not to find them!'' That shoked me deeply and even if i get 150 years old, i will not forget it.
Thats true treason on mankind and deciving the people. I really hope nobody on this forum only care
about what he/she will be doing tomorrow.

Jakob

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On Sun, 10/28/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@...<mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]> wrote:

Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>, "Bert Pool" <BertPool512@...><mailto:BertPool512@...>, "Bob Paddock" <bob.paddock@...><mailto:bob.paddock@...>, "joel mcclain" <joel_76670@...><mailto:joel_76670@...>, "Jon Gentry" <jongen422@...><mailto:jongen422@...>, "Mbking42" <mbking42@...><mailto:mbking42@...>, "Toby Grotz" <wireless2@...><mailto:wireless2@...>, "Phil Rembold" <prembold@...><mailto:prembold@...>, "Angel Alvarez" <angel@...><mailto:angel@...>, "Fredric Fletcher" <ffletcher@...><mailto:ffletcher@...>
Received: Sunday, October 28, 2018, 9:44 AM


�












Jacob!� That would be a rather complex answer
but here is your
starting point!
https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct-thermomagnetic-splitting-of-water-.html���
After having been heavily involved in the COLD FUSION
Research
back in the 70s and 80s I quickly settled o0n the best
catalyst in
electrolytic cells which is pure nickel. I still have
the cell
used in the Elemental Replication experiments.


http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm����
The hidden
part of this research is the use of a nickel component
in the
combustion chamber. Bosch developed 90,000V ignition
systems to
enable water injection in gas engine which high
lighted the
Graneau HV decomposition of water via HVDC
discharge!
My magnetic Battery when run as an electrolytic cell
to produce
hydrogen does produce a huge amount of hydrogen gas as
shown by
the Dr. Ehrenhaft document.� I would tell you to
pursue the super
high Tesla magnetic flux and nickel electrodes in an
electrolytic
cell.� The major obstacle to be overcome is the rapid
collection
of ions from solution by the 1.3 Tesla flux across a
..020"
mechanical gap which quickly takes the cell into a
super-conduction mode which takes out the driving DC
power supply.
You can flush the magnetic gaps with distilled water
and the gaps
will show in the meg-ohm range then go to zero ohms
after a short
period of running, the gathered ions totally short
cell. During
the brief runs there is a huge amount of hydrogen gas
produced�
which I burned off as it was generated.� Much can be
said about
driving the cell with high frequencies as the Myers
research
showed.� Our friend up in Canada at George Wiseman,
Eagle Research
is running well ahead of the crowd on the production
of H-H-O.
Just for giggles!


16 October
1996
To: Hal
Fox,� Fusion Facts
Elemental
Replication ?
�
����� Around mid
September
I put together an
electrolysis cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold
Fusion Cell
with the goal of
exploring the possibilities of making what is
termed �Pristine
Water�.�� This water
which will be used by Homeopaths
will have had all memory or information
removed.� This is accomplished by
recombining monatomic
hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated in a
properly
designed cell.� This is
the ultimate in purity since this is
water with conditions at the time of original
creation.� �Holly Water�is a term
coined by my dear
friend and fellow researcher Joe Tyls of
Vancouver, BC.�� After several weeks of
successful operation
producing water that had all the earmarks of a
true �pristine
water� a fellow
researcher suggested using an alternate
electrolyte.�� A solution was selected
that contained 77
colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the
easiest
assimilated into the
body.�� With the
electrolyte changed the
cell was put back into operation as before with a
nice
recombination burn and
production of the sought after �pristine
water�.�������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������
�������
��� After about an
hour of
operation the cell
went absolutely �nuts� with the temperature
rapidly climbing
to boiling point
and the current out of sight.�
When the
cell was opened we found a deep red sludge deposit
which
shorted the cell
plates.�� Our first
thought was that the
electrolytic action precipitated out the colloidal
minerals
which caused the
deposit found.�� The�
electrolyte was allowed
to settle out the
precipitate.�� After�
decanting off,� the clear electrolyte
was
returned to the
cell for another run. Again the cell operated
normally for
about an hour with a
normal recombination burn and recovery of the
water being
consumed by the cell
in the splitting action.�� Again
the cell
temperature and current mirrored the first
run.�
Again the cell contained the same amount of
sludge
residue.�� This process
was repeated ten (10) times
with exactly the same results.��
All of
the sludge was carefully dried and weighed on an
electronic
scale with a five
decimal
resolution.���������������������
The cell plates and all hardware were
weighed to
determine any loss of
mass that may contribute to the mass gain observed
in the
sludge.� Five hundred
(500) ml of the original
electrolyte solution used in the cell was vacuum
distilled to
determine the
exact mass of colloidal minerals
contained.�
When all factors were considered we came
out with a
mass gain of� 48 gm
which cannot be explained by
conventional
electrolysis.����������������������

��� After talking
to Dr.
Robert Bass and Hal
Fox I learned of a patent that has been filed on
the
transmutation of elements
in the cold fusion cell which is the process that
Dr. John
Bockris has been so
active in.�� Both Dr.
Bass and Hal Fox
stated that what I was observing is not the same
as the
transmutation observed
in the cold fusion cell since I have a overall
mass gain and
not a lateral
movement of elements in the periodic table toward
lighter
elements with a
resulting heat release.� This
unusual
cell operation has caused quite a reaction in the
scientific
community. �At this
time I have built a complete new cell
with every possible factor which could possibly
explain the
mass gain
considered and documented.� The
ten (10)
consecutive runs on the new cell will be completed
soon and a
report will be
forthcoming.�� What is
interesting about
this phenomenon is that when an eleventh run was
made with the
original
electrolyte exactly the same amount of residue was
recovered
as in the previous
ten
runs.�����������������������������������������������������������������������

�
Since
the same electrolyte is reused each time with only
distilled
water being added
to replace the volume lost by the removal of the
solids and
the water recovered
by the recombination burn we are hard pressed to
explain the
observed
phenomenon.���� The
electrolyte appears
stronger in mineral concentration and shows no
sign of

depletion.��������������������������������

�� After conferring
with
Joe Tyls we arrived at
the conclusion that the 77 colloidal minerals
contained in the
electrolyte
provide the atomic templates needed for the
monatomic hydrogen
(father of all
the elements) to replicate selected elements in
this exotic
mixture.� If you
subscribe to the theories of the late
Walter Russell and his explanation of the octave
based
periodic table with
monatonic hydrogen being what he describes as
hydrons
(precursor to hydrogen)
then it is possible for the replication of
elements directly
from energy input
alone.� This is how all
matter was
created in the beginning as described by
Schappeller in �The
Physics of the
Primary State of Matter�.��� I
will keep
all informed as to our progress and findings in
this very
intriguing venture.
�
Norman
Wootan
P.O.
Box 141049
Dallas,
TX 75214
(214)
360-0865
�
�
CC:� Gene Mallove,
Infinite
Energy
CC:� Dr. John
Bockris, Texas
A/M






On 10/28/2018 1:01 AM,
Jakob Wall
wall_jakob@...<mailto:wall_jakob@...>
[EVGRAY] wrote:




�


Thanks Norman,



BTW, what is the most effective water split
device that
you ever put you hands on?

As HHO researcher for dekades you should be
able to point
us directly to the most effective known!

Please be specific about reconstruction of the
same, since
we are in public domain it will become public
knowledge
and public good. I assume you intend nothing
else,rigth ?


--------------------------------------------

On Sat, 10/27/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@...<mailto:nwootan@...>
[EVGRAY]
<[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>
wrote:



Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's
Magnetic
Battery [3 Attachments]

To: "Bert Pool" <BertPool512@...><mailto:BertPool512@...>,
"Bob
Paddock" <bob.paddock@...><mailto:bob.paddock@...>,
"joel mcclain"
<joel_76670@...><mailto:joel_76670@...>,
"Jon Gentry"
<jongen422@...><mailto:jongen422@...>,
"Lane Wootan"
<lanewootan@...><mailto:lanewootan@...>,
"Mbking42"
<mbking42@...><mailto:mbking42@....>,
"Toby Grotz"
<wireless2@...><mailto:wireless2@...>,
"Phil Rembold"
<prembold@...><mailto:prembold@....>,
"Angel Alvarez"
<angel@...><mailto:angel@...>,
"Fredric Fletcher"
<ffletcher@...><mailto:ffletcher@...>,
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

To understand the unwinding of a thread
leading

to Magnetic

Generating Hydrogen and this Magnetic Battery,
we have

to dust off

our� 9th grade Chemistry Books!

http://www.rexresearch.com/ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm�����

I guess Dr.

Ehrenhaft was the first to propose a Magnetic
Current.

(Jon

Gentry, Your liquid metal vortex helix).

https://revolution-green.com/can-electrolysis-powered-magnets/������

Ah! Ha!� more on Magnetic Currents!!!

https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446..html<https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446.html>

https://www.labmanager.com/white-papers-and-application-notes/2010/05/resistivity-conductivity-measurement-of-purified-water#.W9So9uJRc2w

https://www.askiitians.com/forums/Physical-Chemistry/19/19074/electro-che

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpotential

https://www.quora.com/Why-is-oxygen-molecule-paramagnetic-although-it-does-not-contain-any-unpaired-electron

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251580541_The_effect_of_magnetic_force_on_hydrogen_production_efficiency_in_water_electrolysis

http://www.physicscentral.com/experiment/physicsathome/electricwhirlpool.cfm

http://www.linux-host.org/energy/bmagpump.htm

Now Jon Gentry you have your liquid metal pump
so

that you can

make the helix tube Vortex!�
Ferricpetacarbonyl or

micro fine neo

powder to provide the liquid metal for pump

circuit.

Lots of reading here!���� Please think
about the

ramifications of

a Magnetic Current as proposed by Dr.
Ehrenhaft!























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[25/92] Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery [3 Attachments]

2018-11-10T20:38:19+00:00 · bart woodard <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <YQBPR0101MB072155005D8219C7E62905E3CEC70@YQBPR0101MB0721.CANPRD01.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
Norm looks like a brake caliper from a Tesla s model  lol


________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
Sent: November 10, 2018 3:01 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery [3 Attachments]



BTW, The 1/4 cylindrical section magnets come from these IBM, Main Frame HD assemblies!� I salvaged down 100s of them during the 90s. Read Write head, linear servo modules. See:

[cid:[email protected]]

On 11/10/2018 12:37 PM, bart woodard [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
�

I use a magnetic stirrer with distilled and wait for the ph to rise, the results are immediate.

https://hannainst.com/hi190m-1-magnetic-mini-stirrer.html

Mini Magnetic Stirrer (115V) - HI190M-1 - Hanna Instruments<https://hannainst.com/hi190m-1-magnetic-mini-stirrer.html>
hannainst.com
Compact. Lightweight. This mini magnetic stirrer with plastic cover can stir up to 1 liter. Big power, small footprint. Perfect for any lab!




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No!� Bart, never got into that exotic element stuff!� Just followed those that were!

On 11/10/2018 10:42 AM, bart woodard [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
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Hey Norm , your life's experiences have been fruitful!! Congrats!!

Have you ever played with table top combinations� such as thorium and fluoride or the molten salt combo?

On a hobbyist� basis approach?

Rossi likes to inject nickel/mag� powder so as I see to maintain his 1k output!.

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Mick! To answer the rest of your questions:� In that ARC process you have to use carbon rods to yield the carbon monoxide & hydrogen.� (carbon source) (arc is heat source).

Holy Water was interesting part of the Elemental Replication experiment. See:�

Elemental Replication ?

�

����� Around mid September I put together an electrolysis cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold Fusion Cell with the goal of exploring the possibilities of making what is termed �Pristine Water�.�� This water which will be used by Homeopaths will have had all memory or information removed.� This is accomplished by recombining monatomic hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated in a properly designed cell.� This is the ultimate in purity since this is water with conditions at the time of original creation.� �Wholy Water�is a term coined by my dear friend and fellow researcher Joe Tyls of Vancouver, BC.�� After several weeks of successful operation producing water that had all the earmarks of a true �pristine water� a fellow researcher suggested using an alternate electrolyte.�� A solution was selected that contained 77 colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the easiest assimilated into the body.�� With the electrolyte changed the cell was put back into operation as before with a nice recombination burn and production of the sought after �pristine water�.���


The water produced in the recombination burn of the H-H-O was collected from a silica glass condenser into a silica glass beaker for sampling.� When you flipped several CCs of the water into your mouth and tried to swallow, there was nothing there.� Hmmmm!� We immediately tested the viscosity and surface tension of the water and found it to be far below human blood which means that the water diffused directly into the capillaries around the tongue therefore nothing there to swallow.� The two Doctor who were there were amazed. � To prove the theory as to information carried by water, we collected a sample of several CCs into a plastic lab cup instead of the silica glass beaker. When you flipped the several CCs into your mouth you had to immediately spit it out for it was pure taste of plastic. This water picks up signature of anything it comes into contact with.� That is why the Homeopathic Doctors wanted it for making their tinctures.��� (signature of a healing agent). ��� We had all the necessary instruments to evaluate the Pristine water. See: � https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemorheology

Hemorheology - Wikipedia<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemorheology>
en.m.wikipedia.org
Blood viscosity is a measure of the resistance of blood to flow. It can also be described as the thickness and stickiness of blood. This biophysical property makes it a critical determinant of friction against the vessel walls, the rate of venous return, the work required for the heart to pump blood, and how much oxygen is transported to tissues and organs.


�� http://www.dynalenelabs.com/testing-services/thermal-testing/viscosity-rheology/?gclid=CjwKCAiA_ZTfBRBjEiwAN6YG4SdHu5bWZ9yHLBM9VNQ0TLl4tB1hOqMvR_dOEHNbGX6k_kDHHtb5xhoCgIgQAvD_BwE �������� https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tensiometer

� https://hydramotion.com/en/technical/units-of-viscosity

I made an offer to the Doctors present that a small unit for production of a liter/day of Pristine Water via complete unit built of quartz glass could be had for $5,000. Apparently they were not that enthused as we thought!� Oh! Well!

I built numerous Pyramids of all sizes and the Orgone Accumulators and even the Cloud� Buster.�� The pyramid experiments were very interesting for real effects were shown.�� Never tested whether water would� break after treatment by either Orgone� or pyramid.��� The complete description of the 4 inch cell is in the Elemental replication Part Two. See:


Cell Description

�

��� The electrolysis cell is designed to hold one (1) liter of electrolyte and operate at approximately 150 watt power level for the production of monatomic hydrogen and� monatomic oxygen which is burned back to pure water and collected in a glass condenser.� Cell container is schedule 40 PVC pipe section 6 inches long with bottom cap cemented on.� The top of the cell has a 4 inch female thread adapter cemented on to provide access to the interior via a male threaded plug which has the gas outlet port and two electrolyte fill ports to provide for replacement of lost electrolyte on the fly for continuos operation.� Positive and negative terminals are provided for external connection of the power supply leads to the internal anode- cathode stack.

��� The cell plate stack consist of 8 anode plates and 8 cathode plates of the following sizes constructed from 316L stainless steel of 22 ga. thickness.

4 ea.� 3� X 3� plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 2.75�plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 2.5�plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 2.25� plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 2� plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 1.75� plates, and� 2 ea. 3� X 1.5� plates.� The plates are drilled and stacked with alternating anode and cathode plates spaced 1/8� apart which makes a cylindrical shaped array which fits nicely inside of the 4� ID PVC� cell container.� Electrical leads are braided copper of #10 size which are covered by shrink tubing to cover conductive surface as they pass through the electrolyte to the cell terminal bolts.� All electrical surfaces other than the anode and cathode plates are carefully covered with PVC cement to prevent deterioration from electrolyte contact.��� Please note that if allowed to come into contact with �charged� surfaces monatomic hydrogen and monatonic oxygen will imediately form into their usual occuring state as diatomic H2 and O2 molecules.

���������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������

On 11/8/2018 4:29 PM, Mick [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
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Hi Norm,

The catalysts are very interesting.� Iron Cobalt and Nickel all ferromagnetic but at different spins.

Correct me if I am wrong but based on reading your links a bingofuel type reactor using tungsten electrodes that hopefully would last much longer would likely produce OH rather than H and carbon monoxide, what do you think?

Also water is strange indeed in that a pyramid or orgone accumulator changes it and these simple changes could make for water that breaks up more easily.� I would love to know what results you demonstrated with the totally juvenile memory free water you put back together from the OH?�

Sorry to hear about your neck fracture, I have a similar issue and it is extremely painful and debilitating at times.

Mick

On 11/7/2018 4:15 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
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On 11/7/2018 6:06 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:

Jakob Wall! & all other researchers on here need to read the Whole Story as to why I no longer have a research lab.� Jakob, I'm sorry I did not reveal to you the BEST in my opinion of methods of producing hydrogen gas for I felt it was a little too advanced and difficult for you to experiment with.� See: https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en .�� There is a very long story behind this US Patent and a hell of a lot of research. The quest for a very inexpensive method of splitting water has been the Holy Grail of� cheap energy.�� In addition to the research papers and links that I gave to you, here are some more to dwell on.

https://www.researchgate.net/post/At_what_temperature_water_will_decompose_to_Oxygen_and_Hydrogen

https://www.quora.com/Does-water-break-down-into-oxygen-and-hydrogen-at-high-temperatures-If-so-then-at-what-temperature

https://www.quora.com/How-much-water-can-you-split-into-hydrogen-and-oxygen-using-electrolysis-with-one-kilowatt-hour-of-electricity

http://www.redrok.com/hion96a1.htm

https://www.nature.com/articles/nplants201741�� Please read carefully about the play of Nickel in this approach!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_splitting

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water-gas_shift_reaction��� I owned 77 acres of land in Eureka Springs, AR where they still had the old water gas generator and gas storage facility.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decarboxylation

https://phys.org/news/2018-02-uncovers-mechanism-water-splitting-catalyst.html

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/new-catalyst-could-split-water-cheaply/

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/512996/a-cheaper-way-to-make-hydrogen-from-water/

"SUPER STEAM - A Tesla conference in Colorado surfaces new Super Steam Technology (SST). Leonard Dorsett and friends from Texas share strikingly similar views to Aquarian Agency Ltd. They have technology which produces steam instantly at up to 3,000F without a boiler and with 60% savings in fuel over traditional boilers. Nitrogen rich, it can put out gasoline fires and treat many waste problems. Of major importance to Aquarian, this nitrogen-rich steam will help to produce heat and Aquastone at considerable savings."

For further information on Aquarian Agency Ltd. they can be contacted at 38 Weir Rd, Wimbledon, London SW19 SUG, England or on Internet at <aquarian ocign.ape.org>. SUPER STEAM TECHNOLOGY PART 2[http://astrosa.com/n95/n059501.gif]

Leonard Dorsett (PO Box 365, Grapevine, TX 76092) demonstrated his Super Steam Technology at the 1994 International Tesla Symposium. SST is a system for producing steam at any temperature or pressure independently and instantly without the need for a conventional boiler. It can instantly produce steam of any temperature from hot water at 180F to super heated steam at over 3000F, while pressures can vary from 1PSI to 3000PSI with airflow volumes of 1CFM up to over 2000CFM. The system operates on propane, methane, petrol, kerosene, methanol, diesel, hydrogen or just about anything else that bums and converts virtually 100% of the fuel into usable energy. (Note: The person in the picture is Norman Wootan of MRA fame)

This all sounds great, but how does it work? The basis of the unit is a specially designed open throat chamber with controlled air, water and fuel interaction and a high voltage ignition resulting in a direct fire process establishing thermal zones. This creates a stoichiometric condition resulting in a full spectrum of steam product. Now comes the interesting part At the increased temperatures of steam, disassociation occurs. (Could this be a clue to running cars on water??) The hydrogen and oxygen reacts causing an exponential increase of energy resulting in super heated steam. A similar superheat process was addressed by Tesla in the October 12, 1911 publication of the "Engineering News Record".

Applications of the SST system include a much more economical way of producing electricity as no conventional boiler is needed. It will also be an ideal low cost method for heating and cooling homes and businesses. Small portable units can be developed for home use, such as steam cleaning, and insect and ant removal, without the dangers of insecticides. The system can also be used for low cost purification of polluted water or sewerage and can also convert salt water into drinking water both quickly and inexpensively. Other uses are in fire fighting applications, ice and snow removal from roads, etc. and sterilization and nurturing of soil for agriculture where contamination has occurred.

I had designed a method of making hydrogen from carbon & water vapor using the Tesla Atomic Bombardment method of high frequency inside of spherical inclosure like this experiments with the carbon button lamp globes.�� After working with Leonard Dorsett and his Super Steam Project, I chose to use the Water Shift Process instead.� A side note is needed here!� The Super Steam Process was a result of Professor Brown studying the method the German's used for torpedo propulsion from WWI.� Acetylene Gas and sea water produced an exothermic reaction generating Super Steam. Brown built several reactors and tested them in the Tulsa area to break (down hole) the parafin deposits to release crude oil.

The Chemical equation for the reaction in the US Patent: https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en

(6C + 12 H2O� = 6CO2 + 24H)

Hydrogen Reactor Development

�

Original concept design was a high voltage, high frequency resonant device that utilized carbon water reaction with the feedstock being in the form of graphite rod stock.� This unit was designed for vehicle application and had too many limitations to be used for mass hydrogen generation.� This type reactor is very effective at hydrogen production since it targets the water vapor molecule at MRI frequencies, which breaks the bonding, allowing the carbon to latch onto the oxygen atoms leaving the hydrogen free. This device was a closed system that used a simple CO2/hydrogen separation stage that enabled the hydrogen to be feed to an internal combustion engine.

�

To allow for a sustained high mass flow of hydrogen gas output, reactor design took on a radical change.� By incorporating the Ranque/Hilsch, Counter Flow Implosion Vortex Principle, and continuous high mass flow and gas separation were achieved in one stage of operation.� Feedstock for this type reactor could be any carbon-based material that could be put into a powder form.� Highest carbon content of the feedstock provides for the most efficient hydrogen production with the least undesirable output material.

�

Super high temperature operating regime was chosen to be above 2500 C for the purpose of producing atomic hydrogen in the process.� The original reactor operated at temperatures that easily gasified basic carbon into a plasma state (>10,000 F) more easily allowing the production of hydrogen from the stoichiometric feed stock ratios.


[cid:[email protected]]

I sold one of my Patents (Sonodiffuser) and paid for my 52 acres of land and built a 5200 sq. Ft. lab the do the Prototype machining and Proof of Concept testing for GAZPROM, Moscow in 2005. A $1.2 million investment and they got the rights to the process and I got the beautiful Research Lab all paid in full. I was a self employed Contractor in Dallas working with HVAC, Electrical and Electronics Maintenance so had to commute 170 miles/day and only had the week ends for my time! Having to mow grass and maintane the 52 acres took all my time and when I suffered a neck fracture in 2012, had to retire. Liquidated the entire facility and sold it off. Moved to Dallas then to South Louisiana where I now do a lot of relaxing and fishing!

Hector and ALL, I did my time in the Barrel so now I will just contribute to the dialog inorder to assist any research you may be doing within my area of experitise!���� BTW! I have been out to pasture for a long time now, so no BULL offense!� As Hector knows, "It fits"! Lol



[cid:[email protected]]

Yes! Hector, I will wear my Border Patrol Hat when you come visit from PR!� Lol




On 11/6/2018 8:52 PM, [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
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By the way ... i can hit mega millions or the power ball� . i never will not have a lab i can work in,� that is worst than death , you have no idea of the technology that had being lost by the greedy fucking bastards fucking my life , they will loose all they have� "soon" because it had being engineered that way by accumulative bad karma, i have another lab they will never reach or be able to intercept or destroy and that will decide their fate ..... they will be fucked hard !



(H)� �

---In [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>, <mkjekyll@...><mailto:mkjekyll@...> wrote :


Cmon Hector,

Bad taste!

The man had a more serious lab than anyone else here and his work speaks for itself.� Maybe he has gained the fortune he desired through R&D and now shitting in tall cotton or gone fishing reaping the rewards of retirement. Notwithstanding is still kind enough to help point us in the right directions around here.

"Funny�I can look back on a life of achievement, on challenges met, competitors bested, obstacles overcome. I�ve accomplished more than most men, and without the use of my legs. What?What makes a man, Mr. Lebowski?"

On 11/6/2018 8:04 AM, arkresearch@...<mailto:arkresearch@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
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Dar n ! a Scientist inventor with no lab is like a breeding bull with no balls !

[Balls                                                           Cow  GIF -                                                           Balls                                                            Cow                                                              WingDangDoodle                                                           GIFs]


---In [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>, <nwootan@...><mailto:nwootan@...> wrote :


Jacob! You asked me a question and I gave you my opinion!� I'm totally retired at 80 years old and have no lab to experiment in!� Your quote; I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. '' Slow down boy, we get paid for llooking for solutions, not to find them!''�� That certainly does not apply to me for I have shared all with the folks on this site.� I find you statement very interesting:� Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours with usual amount of gas looks to me extremely inefficient.�� ??????������� Care to share where you saw the power of a permanent magnet being used up!�� We all here on this site share what ever knowledge we have on the various subjects not seeking any monetary gain in any way! That is my approach!�� I just contribute to the dialog when I run across something interesting and think it will assist you guys!�� Norm

On 11/3/2018 11:32 PM, Jakob Wall wall_jakob@...<mailto:wall_jakob@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
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Thanks Norman,
But i actually asced for ''most efficient way'' to split water known to you!
I realize there are a lot of different technigues to do just that.
And yes i realize you could give me a rather complex answer. But instead i hope for a
rather easy and reproductive answer since i am looking forward to solve my enerrgy
problems i just can not live with the momentary (sad and very stupid energy situation)
I am still not giving up becouse of a couple mistakes and misunderstandings.
If i would be a car dealer and you would ask me for a most efficient car available on the market
i would for sure not recommend a Prius, since there are a lot of cars with better fuel economie
even without being a hybrid and without additional cost like batterys,e-motors and a bunch added ECU's

Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours with usual amount of gas looks to me extremely
inefficient.
Also very expensive HHO-Garage products with output of 1,6 ltr/min.
Come on, 6 rusty nails and a old car batery does this job, no need to spend 1600 bucks on it.
I honestly expected solide advise or a honest NO way boy, i just talking around.

I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. '' Slow down boy, we get paid for llooking for
solutions, not to find them!'' That shoked me deeply and even if i get 150 years old, i will not forget it.
Thats true treason on mankind and deciving the people. I really hope nobody on this forum only care
about what he/she will be doing tomorrow.

Jakob

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Jacob!� That would be a rather complex answer
but here is your
starting point!
https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct-thermomagnetic-splitting-of-water-.html���
After having been heavily involved in the COLD FUSION
Research
back in the 70s and 80s I quickly settled o0n the best
catalyst in
electrolytic cells which is pure nickel. I still have
the cell
used in the Elemental Replication experiments.


http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm����
The hidden
part of this research is the use of a nickel component
in the
combustion chamber. Bosch developed 90,000V ignition
systems to
enable water injection in gas engine which high
lighted the
Graneau HV decomposition of water via HVDC
discharge!
My magnetic Battery when run as an electrolytic cell
to produce
hydrogen does produce a huge amount of hydrogen gas as
shown by
the Dr. Ehrenhaft document.� I would tell you to
pursue the super
high Tesla magnetic flux and nickel electrodes in an
electrolytic
cell.� The major obstacle to be overcome is the rapid
collection
of ions from solution by the 1.3 Tesla flux across a
.020"
mechanical gap which quickly takes the cell into a
super-conduction mode which takes out the driving DC
power supply.
You can flush the magnetic gaps with distilled water
and the gaps
will show in the meg-ohm range then go to zero ohms
after a short
period of running, the gathered ions totally short
cell. During
the brief runs there is a huge amount of hydrogen gas
produced�
which I burned off as it was generated.� Much can be
said about
driving the cell with high frequencies as the Myers
research
showed.� Our friend up in Canada at George Wiseman,
Eagle Research
is running well ahead of the crowd on the production
of H-H-O.
Just for giggles!


16 October
1996
To: Hal
Fox,� Fusion Facts
Elemental
Replication ?
�
����� Around mid
September
I put together an
electrolysis cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold
Fusion Cell
with the goal of
exploring the possibilities of making what is
termed �Pristine
Water�.�� This water
which will be used by Homeopaths
will have had all memory or information
removed.� This is accomplished by
recombining monatomic
hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated in a
properly
designed cell.� This is
the ultimate in purity since this is
water with conditions at the time of original
creation.� �Holly Water�is a term
coined by my dear
friend and fellow researcher Joe Tyls of
Vancouver, BC.�� After several weeks of
successful operation
producing water that had all the earmarks of a
true �pristine
water� a fellow
researcher suggested using an alternate
electrolyte.�� A solution was selected
that contained 77
colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the
easiest
assimilated into the
body.�� With the
electrolyte changed the
cell was put back into operation as before with a
nice
recombination burn and
production of the sought after �pristine
water�.�������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������
�������
��� After about an
hour of
operation the cell
went absolutely �nuts� with the temperature
rapidly climbing
to boiling point
and the current out of sight.�
When the
cell was opened we found a deep red sludge deposit
which
shorted the cell
plates.�� Our first
thought was that the
electrolytic action precipitated out the colloidal
minerals
which caused the
deposit found.�� The�
electrolyte was allowed
to settle out the
precipitate.�� After�
decanting off,� the clear electrolyte
was
returned to the
cell for another run. Again the cell operated
normally for
about an hour with a
normal recombination burn and recovery of the
water being
consumed by the cell
in the splitting action.�� Again
the cell
temperature and current mirrored the first
run.�
Again the cell contained the same amount of
sludge
residue.�� This process
was repeated ten (10) times
with exactly the same results.��
All of
the sludge was carefully dried and weighed on an
electronic
scale with a five
decimal
resolution.���������������������
The cell plates and all hardware were
weighed to
determine any loss of
mass that may contribute to the mass gain observed
in the
sludge.� Five hundred
(500) ml of the original
electrolyte solution used in the cell was vacuum
distilled to
determine the
exact mass of colloidal minerals
contained.�
When all factors were considered we came
out with a
mass gain of� 48 gm
which cannot be explained by
conventional
electrolysis.����������������������

��� After talking
to Dr.
Robert Bass and Hal
Fox I learned of a patent that has been filed on
the
transmutation of elements
in the cold fusion cell which is the process that
Dr. John
Bockris has been so
active in.�� Both Dr.
Bass and Hal Fox
stated that what I was observing is not the same
as the
transmutation observed
in the cold fusion cell since I have a overall
mass gain and
not a lateral
movement of elements in the periodic table toward
lighter
elements with a
resulting heat release.� This
unusual
cell operation has caused quite a reaction in the
scientific
community. �At this
time I have built a complete new cell
with every possible factor which could possibly
explain the
mass gain
considered and documented.� The
ten (10)
consecutive runs on the new cell will be completed
soon and a
report will be
forthcoming.�� What is
interesting about
this phenomenon is that when an eleventh run was
made with the
original
electrolyte exactly the same amount of residue was
recovered
as in the previous
ten
runs.�����������������������������������������������������������������������

�
Since
the same electrolyte is reused each time with only
distilled
water being added
to replace the volume lost by the removal of the
solids and
the water recovered
by the recombination burn we are hard pressed to
explain the
observed
phenomenon.���� The
electrolyte appears
stronger in mineral concentration and shows no
sign of

depletion.��������������������������������

�� After conferring
with
Joe Tyls we arrived at
the conclusion that the 77 colloidal minerals
contained in the
electrolyte
provide the atomic templates needed for the
monatomic hydrogen
(father of all
the elements) to replicate selected elements in
this exotic
mixture.� If you
subscribe to the theories of the late
Walter Russell and his explanation of the octave
based
periodic table with
monatonic hydrogen being what he describes as
hydrons
(precursor to hydrogen)
then it is possible for the replication of
elements directly
from energy input
alone.� This is how all
matter was
created in the beginning as described by
Schappeller in �The
Physics of the
Primary State of Matter�.��� I
will keep
all informed as to our progress and findings in
this very
intriguing venture.
�
Norman
Wootan
P.O.
Box 141049
Dallas,
TX 75214
(214)
360-0865
�
�
CC:� Gene Mallove,
Infinite
Energy
CC:� Dr. John
Bockris, Texas
A/M






On 10/28/2018 1:01 AM,
Jakob Wall
wall_jakob@...<mailto:wall_jakob@...>
[EVGRAY] wrote:




�


Thanks Norman,



BTW, what is the most effective water split
device that
you ever put you hands on?

As HHO researcher for dekades you should be
able to point
us directly to the most effective known!

Please be specific about reconstruction of the
same, since
we are in public domain it will become public
knowledge
and public good. I assume you intend nothing
else,rigth ?


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On Sat, 10/27/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@...<mailto:nwootan@...>
[EVGRAY]
<[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>
wrote:



Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's
Magnetic
Battery [3 Attachments]

To: "Bert Pool" <BertPool512@...><mailto:BertPool512@...>,
"Bob
Paddock" <bob.paddock@...><mailto:bob.paddock@...>,
"joel mcclain"
<joel_76670@...><mailto:joel_76670@...>,
"Jon Gentry"
<jongen422@...><mailto:jongen422@...>,
"Lane Wootan"
<lanewootan@...><mailto:lanewootan@...>,
"Mbking42"
<mbking42@...><mailto:mbking42@...>,
"Toby Grotz"
<wireless2@...><mailto:wireless2@...>,
"Phil Rembold"
<prembold@...><mailto:prembold@...>,
"Angel Alvarez"
<angel@...><mailto:angel@...>,
"Fredric Fletcher"
<ffletcher@...><mailto:ffletcher@...>,
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

To understand the unwinding of a thread
leading

to Magnetic

Generating Hydrogen and this Magnetic Battery,
we have

to dust off

our� 9th grade Chemistry Books!

http://www.rexresearch.com/ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm�����

I guess Dr.

Ehrenhaft was the first to propose a Magnetic
Current.

(Jon

Gentry, Your liquid metal vortex helix).

https://revolution-green.com/can-electrolysis-powered-magnets/������

Ah! Ha!� more on Magnetic Currents!!!

https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446.html

https://www.labmanager.com/white-papers-and-application-notes/2010/05/resistivity-conductivity-measurement-of-purified-water#.W9So9uJRc2w

https://www.askiitians.com/forums/Physical-Chemistry/19/19074/electro-che

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpotential

https://www.quora.com/Why-is-oxygen-molecule-paramagnetic-although-it-does-not-contain-any-unpaired-electron

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251580541_The_effect_of_magnetic_force_on_hydrogen_production_efficiency_in_water_electrolysis

http://www.physicscentral.com/experiment/physicsathome/electricwhirlpool.cfm

http://www.linux-host.org/energy/bmagpump.htm

Now Jon Gentry you have your liquid metal pump
so

that you can

make the helix tube Vortex!�
Ferricpetacarbonyl or

micro fine neo

powder to provide the liquid metal for pump

circuit.

Lots of reading here!���� Please think
about the

ramifications of

a Magnetic Current as proposed by Dr.
Ehrenhaft!























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[26/92] Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery [1 Attachment]

2018-11-10T23:44:25+00:00 · bart woodard <[email protected]>
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Mick,

   I use all glass(general) in all of of my process , from start to consumption.

As far as carcinogenics go, I roll with it mostly. As the body flushes it out at this size.dark field analyses.

You can check ec

As the parts per billion are not inductive to any negative value in compilation.

Under any lab results   the values go off the charts so I have been mostly doing

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark-field_microscopy

[https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f3/Dark_field_and_phase_contrast_microscopies.ogv/1200px--Dark_field_and_phase_contrast_microscopies.ogv.jpg]<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark-field_microscopy>

Dark-field microscopy - Wikipedia<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark-field_microscopy>
en.wikipedia.org
Dark-field microscopy is a very simple yet effective technique and well suited for uses involving live and unstained biological samples, such as a smear from a tissue culture or individual, water-borne, single-celled organisms. Considering the simplicity of the setup, the quality of images obtained from this technique is impressive.

at home under my own microscope, checking positive values with negative values in comparisons. been doing this for years now.

Even with some people consider this bull , it does have a valid outcome with exercise of repetitive work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mg21897IW_4

[https://www.bing.com/th?id=OVP.GHl_nbO52EtaT7fiPEpA_QEsDh&pid=Api]<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mg21897IW_4>

Live Blood Analysis Dark Field Microscopy explained<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mg21897IW_4>
www.youtube.com
Dark Field Microscopy Live Blood Analysis explained like never before

Any values that gets through are of good results as proven by results.  When we refect positive intent we get the same.

As far as deposits collected at the bottom of you vessel, it could be gold or copper pending on colour .  or sludge build of a dominated mineral.

Mounatous  regions can have anything as plates push everything.  All water tables run every and anywhere. It can be a good coloidal value.

Certain plants thrive on different minerals, check the vegitation results in your area.

         sapogens ?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapogenin

[https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c0/Yamogenin.svg/1200px-Yamogenin.svg.png]<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapogenin>

Sapogenin - Wikipedia<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapogenin>
en.wikipedia.org
Sapogenins are the aglycones, or non-saccharide, portions of the family of natural products known as saponins.Sapogenins contain steroid or other triterpene frameworks as their key organic feature. For example, steroidal sapogenins such as tiggenin, neogitogenin, and tokorogenin have been isolated from the tubers of Chlorophytum arundinaceum. Some steroidal sapogenins can serve as a practical ...

I am recently looking at starting what is called a micro growing operation for cannabis here in Canada.

The prof is here because he feels we can play with research regarding the enhancement of cbd and the thc levels regarding the dna enhancements.

So I have been looking to purchase a farm. The returns on a yearly basis are impressive  1.5  4.5 mill. based on 600 kilos.

Open for offers for any one.

As far as Norms water device , it is a soft application making use of the nonferrite mags. Good stuff!

It creates a gentle enhancement on charges all arround for organs , skin , hair, eyes etc.


Hopefully some value for you!

Bart

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Sent: November 10, 2018 4:23 PM
To: [email protected]
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Bart,

Tell your friend-Even if ethically swayed by grant money, professors can be human too, or maybe long ago they once were.

Is there any procedure you utilize to determine if the ghost elements are carcinogenic or not?

What is the best material for the magnetic stirrer?

I think many are polyethylene coated due to it's inert nature.

I recently acquired this water distiller. I have seen these used in two places with tap water in Southern California and the crap on the bottom stunk and was brown and crusty.  When I use the distiller with my processed water the bottom of the unit is clean but for a few drop of something I have been collecting in a glass.   We live in Oregon in the mountains not near any old mines or chemical sites so the water is pretty pristine except for a high concentration of minerals and manganese.

The stuff left in the distiller has a flowery smell so I think it make be sapogens from plants or oils from minerals, maybe just info fields trying to recombine.

On 11/10/2018 12:31 PM, bart woodard [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:


Hi Mick,

  Well needless to say... you are charged lol!

All water from any where has different values with different mineral combinations.

So whether its been RO then distilled it will still continue with carrying its trace like (ghost)  elements. You are only looking at ppm or parts per million.

Not parts per billion and so on. Some say parts per google!

Unfortunately most will be carcinogenic due to its weight like or charges needed to extend itself  tho not all will.

Even so with the stirrer the vortex will create an implosion enhancing the ghost like values remaining.

The molecule will become broken down to several sizes smaller , lets say 5 times approximately or less or greater than.

The four principles of play come in effect.

The Four Fundamental Forces and their strengths

  *   Gravitational Force – Weakest force; but infinite range. ( Not part of standard model)
  *   Weak Nuclear Force – Next weakest; but short range.
  *   Electromagnetic Force – Stronger, with infinite range.
  *   Strong Nuclear Force – Strongest; but short range.

With in the molecule it has a characteristic tendency so as not to enhance its ph factor with straight on electrical simulated charges.

We can not for now mimic the frequency  water likes to evolve to sustain itself at keeping it at a stabilized value with in.

So circuit wise or electronically it is only a short life the ph may be increased . Tho I have not ventured out lately.

Its been several years for me so forgive my sloppy answers on recalling the research done.

Magnetic values are best used for the best overall out come. The molecule stabilizes itself after a would be spike ( Brownian Motion).

Distilled that's  acidic at 6.2  can be elevated to 7.4 after it hits 8.5 or so give or take.

It can stabilize itself to 7.4 which is where I like it to be for consumption.

Tap water, well water etc will go to ammonia like, say right up to 14- 15- ph.

Good for paint stripping lol.

So distilled @ 0 ppm  will go to 3ppm or more as well as the ph increase.

I do not want to use RO as its values can be anywhere.

The clustering effect has all the values as in one make up volume.

So you get it all , all charges , but mostly enhanced as our body only keeps the larger values and discharges the unwanted ones .

We discharge positive and maintain negative values.

In another words you get it all good with the bad. But still better than a too high ph value as this can burn your cilia and enzymes

with all and good and bad acids in digestion values.

Our mitochondria will only accept values approx one micron , so water at five or more times smaller hydrates our cells more easily.

Thus delivering any value needed to cells requiring assistance.

Hope this has some value some-wheres lol

As I said its been a while.

Bart

PS  A prof just showed up while I am typing this laughing at me .

        He says to add that the sun feels symbiotic to earth as it senses we are out of sync so its releasing more flares.

I told him its the hydrogen intent! lol



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Sent: November 10


Bart,

Your information including on your cat is very interesting.  I have been using distilled water that is first softened and then RO  then distilled beginning from my well.   It has a similar "drying" effect as norms wholly water though not as pronounced.

Could you please provide more information on your experiments concerning distilled water and using the magnetic stirrer and how that alkalizes the water?   The NMR and parahydrogen post if very long winded so difficult for me to get the gist of your presentation.

Thanks,

Mick

On 11/10/2018 10:37 AM, bart woodard [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:


I use a magnetic stirrer with distilled and wait for the ph to rise, the results are immediate.

https://hannainst.com/hi190m-1-magnetic-mini-stirrer.html

Mini Magnetic Stirrer (115V) - HI190M-1 - Hanna Instruments<https://hannainst.com/hi190m-1-magnetic-mini-stirrer.html>
hannainst.com
Compact. Lightweight. This mini magnetic stirrer with plastic cover can stir up to 1 liter. Big power, small footprint. Perfect for any lab!




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Sent: November 10, 2018 12:34 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery [2 Attachments]



No!� Bart, never got into that exotic element stuff!� Just followed those that were!

On 11/10/2018 10:42 AM, bart woodard [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
�

Hey Norm , your life's experiences have been fruitful!! Congrats!!

Have you ever played with table top combinations� such as thorium and fluoride or the molten salt combo?

On a hobbyist� basis approach?

Rossi likes to inject nickel/mag� powder so as I see to maintain his 1k output!.

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Sent: November 9, 2018 3:12 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery [2 Attachments]
�
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Mick! To answer the rest of your questions:� In that ARC process you have to use carbon rods to yield the carbon monoxide & hydrogen.� (carbon source) (arc is heat source).

Holy Water was interesting part of the Elemental Replication experiment. See:�

Elemental Replication ?

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����� Around mid September I put together an electrolysis cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold Fusion Cell with the goal of exploring the possibilities of making what is termed �Pristine Water�.�� This water which will be used by Homeopaths will have had all memory or information removed.� This is accomplished by recombining monatomic hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated in a properly designed cell.� This is the ultimate in purity since this is water with conditions at the time of original creation.� �Wholy Water�is a term coined by my dear friend and fellow researcher Joe Tyls of Vancouver, BC.�� After several weeks of successful operation producing water that had all the earmarks of a true �pristine water� a fellow researcher suggested using an alternate electrolyte.�� A solution was selected that contained 77 colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the easiest assimilated into the body.�� With the electrolyte changed the cell was put back into operation as before with a nice recombination burn and production of the sought after �pristine water�.���


The water produced in the recombination burn of the H-H-O was collected from a silica glass condenser into a silica glass beaker for sampling.� When you flipped several CCs of the water into your mouth and tried to swallow, there was nothing there.� Hmmmm!� We immediately tested the viscosity and surface tension of the water and found it to be far below human blood which means that the water diffused directly into the capillaries around the tongue therefore nothing there to swallow.� The two Doctor who were there were amazed. � To prove the theory as to information carried by water, we collected a sample of several CCs into a plastic lab cup instead of the silica glass beaker. When you flipped the several CCs into your mouth you had to immediately spit it out for it was pure taste of plastic. This water picks up signature of anything it comes into contact with.� That is why the Homeopathic Doctors wanted it for making their tinctures.��� (signature of a healing agent). ��� We had all the necessary instruments to evaluate the Pristine water. See: � https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemorheology<https://en..m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemorheology>

Hemorheology - Wikipedia<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemorheology>
en.m.wikipedia.org
Blood viscosity is a measure of the resistance of blood to flow. It can also be described as the thickness and stickiness of blood. This biophysical property makes it a critical determinant of friction against the vessel walls, the rate of venous return, the work required for the heart to pump blood, and how much oxygen is transported to tissues and organs.


�� http://www.dynalenelabs.com/testing-services/thermal-testing/viscosity-rheology/?gclid=CjwKCAiA_ZTfBRBjEiwAN6YG4SdHu5bWZ9yHLBM9VNQ0TLl4tB1hOqMvR_dOEHNbGX6k_kDHHtb5xhoCgIgQAvD_BwE �������� https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tensiometer<https://en..m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tensiometer>

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I made an offer to the Doctors present that a small unit for production of a liter/day of Pristine Water via complete unit built of quartz glass could be had for $5,000. Apparently they were not that enthused as we thought!� Oh! Well!

I built numerous Pyramids of all sizes and the Orgone Accumulators and even the Cloud� Buster.�� The pyramid experiments were very interesting for real effects were shown.�� Never tested whether water would� break after treatment by either Orgone� or pyramid.��� The complete description of the 4 inch cell is in the Elemental replication Part Two. See:


Cell Description

�

��� The electrolysis cell is designed to hold one (1) liter of electrolyte and operate at approximately 150 watt power level for the production of monatomic hydrogen and� monatomic oxygen which is burned back to pure water and collected in a glass condenser.� Cell container is schedule 40 PVC pipe section 6 inches long with bottom cap cemented on.� The top of the cell has a 4 inch female thread adapter cemented on to provide access to the interior via a male threaded plug which has the gas outlet port and two electrolyte fill ports to provide for replacement of lost electrolyte on the fly for continuos operation.� Positive and negative terminals are provided for external connection of the power supply leads to the internal anode- cathode stack.

��� The cell plate stack consist of 8 anode plates and 8 cathode plates of the following sizes constructed from 316L stainless steel of 22 ga. thickness.

4 ea.� 3� X 3� plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 2.75�plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 2.5�plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 2.25� plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 2� plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 1.75� plates, and� 2 ea. 3� X 1.5� plates.� The plates are drilled and stacked with alternating anode and cathode plates spaced 1/8� apart which makes a cylindrical shaped array which fits nicely inside of the 4� ID PVC� cell container.� Electrical leads are braided copper of #10 size which are covered by shrink tubing to cover conductive surface as they pass through the electrolyte to the cell terminal bolts.� All electrical surfaces other than the anode and cathode plates are carefully covered with PVC cement to prevent deterioration from electrolyte contact.��� Please note that if allowed to come into contact with �charged� surfaces monatomic hydrogen and monatonic oxygen will imediately form into their usual occuring state as diatomic H2 and O2 molecules.

���������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������

On 11/8/2018 4:29 PM, Mick [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
�

Hi Norm,

The catalysts are very interesting.� Iron Cobalt and Nickel all ferromagnetic but at different spins.

Correct me if I am wrong but based on reading your links a bingofuel type reactor using tungsten electrodes that hopefully would last much longer would likely produce OH rather than H and carbon monoxide, what do you think?

Also water is strange indeed in that a pyramid or orgone accumulator changes it and these simple changes could make for water that breaks up more easily.� I would love to know what results you demonstrated with the totally juvenile memory free water you put back together from the OH?�

Sorry to hear about your neck fracture, I have a similar issue and it is extremely painful and debilitating at times.

Mick

On 11/7/2018 4:15 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
�


On 11/7/2018 6:06 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:

Jakob Wall! & all other researchers on here need to read the Whole Story as to why I no longer have a research lab.� Jakob, I'm sorry I did not reveal to you the BEST in my opinion of methods of producing hydrogen gas for I felt it was a little too advanced and difficult for you to experiment with.� See: https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en .�� There is a very long story behind this US Patent and a hell of a lot of research. The quest for a very inexpensive method of splitting water has been the Holy Grail of� cheap energy.�� In addition to the research papers and links that I gave to you, here are some more to dwell on.

https://www.researchgate.net/post/At_what_temperature_water_will_decompose_to_Oxygen_and_Hydrogen<https://www..researchgate.net/post/At_what_temperature_water_will_decompose_to_Oxygen_and_Hydrogen>

https://www.quora.com/Does-water-break-down-into-oxygen-and-hydrogen-at-high-temperatures-If-so-then-at-what-temperature<https://www..quora.com/Does-water-break-down-into-oxygen-and-hydrogen-at-high-temperatures-If-so-then-at-what-temperature>

https://www.quora.com/How-much-water-can-you-split-into-hydrogen-and-oxygen-using-electrolysis-with-one-kilowatt-hour-of-electricity<https://www..quora.com/How-much-water-can-you-split-into-hydrogen-and-oxygen-using-electrolysis-with-one-kilowatt-hour-of-electricity>

http://www.redrok.com/hion96a1.htm

https://www.nature.com/articles/nplants201741<https://www..nature.com/articles/nplants201741>�� Please read carefully about the play of Nickel in this approach!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_splitting

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water-gas_shift_reaction��� I owned 77 acres of land in Eureka Springs, AR where they still had the old water gas generator and gas storage facility.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decarboxylation

https://phys.org/news/2018-02-uncovers-mechanism-water-splitting-catalyst.html

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/new-catalyst-could-split-water-cheaply/<https://www..scientificamerican.com/article/new-catalyst-could-split-water-cheaply/>

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/512996/a-cheaper-way-to-make-hydrogen-from-water/<https://www..technologyreview.com/s/512996/a-cheaper-way-to-make-hydrogen-from-water/>

"SUPER STEAM - A Tesla conference in Colorado surfaces new Super Steam Technology (SST). Leonard Dorsett and friends from Texas share strikingly similar views to Aquarian Agency Ltd. They have technology which produces steam instantly at up to 3,000F without a boiler and with 60% savings in fuel over traditional boilers. Nitrogen rich, it can put out gasoline fires and treat many waste problems. Of major importance to Aquarian, this nitrogen-rich steam will help to produce heat and Aquastone at considerable savings."

For further information on Aquarian Agency Ltd. they can be contacted at 38 Weir Rd, Wimbledon, London SW19 SUG, England or on Internet at <aquarian ocign.ape.org>. SUPER STEAM TECHNOLOGY PART 2[http://astrosa.com/n95/n059501.gif]

Leonard Dorsett (PO Box 365, Grapevine, TX 76092) demonstrated his Super Steam Technology at the 1994 International Tesla Symposium. SST is a system for producing steam at any temperature or pressure independently and instantly without the need for a conventional boiler. It can instantly produce steam of any temperature from hot water at 180F to super heated steam at over 3000F, while pressures can vary from 1PSI to 3000PSI with airflow volumes of 1CFM up to over 2000CFM. The system operates on propane, methane, petrol, kerosene, methanol, diesel, hydrogen or just about anything else that bums and converts virtually 100% of the fuel into usable energy. (Note: The person in the picture is Norman Wootan of MRA fame)

This all sounds great, but how does it work? The basis of the unit is a specially designed open throat chamber with controlled air, water and fuel interaction and a high voltage ignition resulting in a direct fire process establishing thermal zones. This creates a stoichiometric condition resulting in a full spectrum of steam product. Now comes the interesting part At the increased temperatures of steam, disassociation occurs. (Could this be a clue to running cars on water??) The hydrogen and oxygen reacts causing an exponential increase of energy resulting in super heated steam. A similar superheat process was addressed by Tesla in the October 12, 1911 publication of the "Engineering News Record".

Applications of the SST system include a much more economical way of producing electricity as no conventional boiler is needed. It will also be an ideal low cost method for heating and cooling homes and businesses. Small portable units can be developed for home use, such as steam cleaning, and insect and ant removal, without the dangers of insecticides. The system can also be used for low cost purification of polluted water or sewerage and can also convert salt water into drinking water both quickly and inexpensively. Other uses are in fire fighting applications, ice and snow removal from roads, etc. and sterilization and nurturing of soil for agriculture where contamination has occurred.

I had designed a method of making hydrogen from carbon & water vapor using the Tesla Atomic Bombardment method of high frequency inside of spherical inclosure like this experiments with the carbon button lamp globes.�� After working with Leonard Dorsett and his Super Steam Project, I chose to use the Water Shift Process instead.� A side note is needed here!� The Super Steam Process was a result of Professor Brown studying the method the German's used for torpedo propulsion from WWI.� Acetylene Gas and sea water produced an exothermic reaction generating Super Steam. Brown built several reactors and tested them in the Tulsa area to break (down hole) the parafin deposits to release crude oil.

The Chemical equation for the reaction in the US Patent: https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en

(6C + 12 H2O� = 6CO2 + 24H)

Hydrogen Reactor Development

�

Original concept design was a high voltage, high frequency resonant device that utilized carbon water reaction with the feedstock being in the form of graphite rod stock.� This unit was designed for vehicle application and had too many limitations to be used for mass hydrogen generation.� This type reactor is very effective at hydrogen production since it targets the water vapor molecule at MRI frequencies, which breaks the bonding, allowing the carbon to latch onto the oxygen atoms leaving the hydrogen free. This device was a closed system that used a simple CO2/hydrogen separation stage that enabled the hydrogen to be feed to an internal combustion engine.

�

To allow for a sustained high mass flow of hydrogen gas output, reactor design took on a radical change.� By incorporating the Ranque/Hilsch, Counter Flow Implosion Vortex Principle, and continuous high mass flow and gas separation were achieved in one stage of operation.� Feedstock for this type reactor could be any carbon-based material that could be put into a powder form.� Highest carbon content of the feedstock provides for the most efficient hydrogen production with the least undesirable output material.

�

Super high temperature operating regime was chosen to be above 2500 C for the purpose of producing atomic hydrogen in the process.� The original reactor operated at temperatures that easily gasified basic carbon into a plasma state (>10,000 F) more easily allowing the production of hydrogen from the stoichiometric feed stock ratios.


[cid:[email protected]]

I sold one of my Patents (Sonodiffuser) and paid for my 52 acres of land and built a 5200 sq. Ft. lab the do the Prototype machining and Proof of Concept testing for GAZPROM, Moscow in 2005. A $1.2 million investment and they got the rights to the process and I got the beautiful Research Lab all paid in full. I was a self employed Contractor in Dallas working with HVAC, Electrical and Electronics Maintenance so had to commute 170 miles/day and only had the week ends for my time! Having to mow grass and maintane the 52 acres took all my time and when I suffered a neck fracture in 2012, had to retire. Liquidated the entire facility and sold it off. Moved to Dallas then to South Louisiana where I now do a lot of relaxing and fishing!

Hector and ALL, I did my time in the Barrel so now I will just contribute to the dialog inorder to assist any research you may be doing within my area of experitise!���� BTW! I have been out to pasture for a long time now, so no BULL offense!� As Hector knows, "It fits"! Lol



[cid:[email protected]]

Yes! Hector, I will wear my Border Patrol Hat when you come visit from PR!� Lol




On 11/6/2018 8:52 PM, [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
�

By the way ... i can hit mega millions or the power ball� . i never will not have a lab i can work in,� that is worst than death , you have no idea of the technology that had being lost by the greedy fucking bastards fucking my life , they will loose all they have� "soon" because it had being engineered that way by accumulative bad karma, i have another lab they will never reach or be able to intercept or destroy and that will decide their fate ..... they will be fucked hard !



(H)� �

---In [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>, <mkjekyll@...><mailto:mkjekyll@...> wrote :


Cmon Hector,

Bad taste!

The man had a more serious lab than anyone else here and his work speaks for itself.� Maybe he has gained the fortune he desired through R&D and now shitting in tall cotton or gone fishing reaping the rewards of retirement. Notwithstanding is still kind enough to help point us in the right directions around here.

"Funny�I can look back on a life of achievement, on challenges met, competitors bested, obstacles overcome. I�ve accomplished more than most men, and without the use of my legs. What?What makes a man, Mr. Lebowski?"

On 11/6/2018 8:04 AM, arkresearch@...<mailto:arkresearch@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
�

Dar n ! a Scientist inventor with no lab is like a breeding bull with no balls !

[Balls Cow                                                           GIF - Balls                                                           Cow                                                           WingDangDoodle                                                           GIFs]


---In [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>, <nwootan@...><mailto:nwootan@...> wrote :


Jacob! You asked me a question and I gave you my opinion!� I'm totally retired at 80 years old and have no lab to experiment in!� Your quote; I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. '' Slow down boy, we get paid for llooking for solutions, not to find them!''�� That certainly does not apply to me for I have shared all with the folks on this site.� I find you statement very interesting:� Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours with usual amount of gas looks to me extremely inefficient.�� ??????������� Care to share where you saw the power of a permanent magnet being used up!�� We all here on this site share what ever knowledge we have on the various subjects not seeking any monetary gain in any way! That is my approach!�� I just contribute to the dialog when I run across something interesting and think it will assist you guys!�� Norm

On 11/3/2018 11:32 PM, Jakob Wall wall_jakob@...<mailto:wall_jakob@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
�

Thanks Norman,
But i actually asced for ''most efficient way'' to split water known to you!
I realize there are a lot of different technigues to do just that.
And yes i realize you could give me a rather complex answer. But instead i hope for a
rather easy and reproductive answer since i am looking forward to solve my enerrgy
problems i just can not live with the momentary (sad and very stupid energy situation)
I am still not giving up becouse of a couple mistakes and misunderstandings...
If i would be a car dealer and you would ask me for a most efficient car available on the market
i would for sure not recommend a Prius, since there are a lot of cars with better fuel economie
even without being a hybrid and without additional cost like batterys,e-motors and a bunch added ECU's

Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours with usual amount of gas looks to me extremely
inefficient.
Also very expensive HHO-Garage products with output of 1,6 ltr/min.
Come on, 6 rusty nails and a old car batery does this job, no need to spend 1600 bucks on it.
I honestly expected solide advise or a honest NO way boy, i just talking around.

I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. '' Slow down boy, we get paid for llooking for
solutions, not to find them!'' That shoked me deeply and even if i get 150 years old, i will not forget it.
Thats true treason on mankind and deciving the people. I really hope nobody on this forum only care
about what he/she will be doing tomorrow.

Jakob

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On Sun, 10/28/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@...<mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]> wrote:

Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>, "Bert Pool" <BertPool512@...><mailto:BertPool512@...>, "Bob Paddock" <bob.paddock@...><mailto:bob.paddock@...>, "joel mcclain" <joel_76670@...><mailto:joel_76670@...>, "Jon Gentry" <jongen422@...><mailto:jongen422@...>, "Mbking42" <mbking42@...><mailto:mbking42@...>, "Toby Grotz" <wireless2@...><mailto:wireless2@...>, "Phil Rembold" <prembold@...><mailto:prembold@...>, "Angel Alvarez" <angel@...><mailto:angel@...>, "Fredric Fletcher" <ffletcher@...><mailto:ffletcher@...>
Received: Sunday, October 28, 2018, 9:44 AM


�












Jacob!� That would be a rather complex answer
but here is your
starting point!
https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct-thermomagnetic-splitting-of-water-.html���
After having been heavily involved in the COLD FUSION
Research
back in the 70s and 80s I quickly settled o0n the best
catalyst in
electrolytic cells which is pure nickel. I still have
the cell
used in the Elemental Replication experiments.


http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm����
The hidden
part of this research is the use of a nickel component
in the
combustion chamber. Bosch developed 90,000V ignition
systems to
enable water injection in gas engine which high
lighted the
Graneau HV decomposition of water via HVDC
discharge!
My magnetic Battery when run as an electrolytic cell
to produce
hydrogen does produce a huge amount of hydrogen gas as
shown by
the Dr. Ehrenhaft document.� I would tell you to
pursue the super
high Tesla magnetic flux and nickel electrodes in an
electrolytic
cell.� The major obstacle to be overcome is the rapid
collection
of ions from solution by the 1.3 Tesla flux across a
...020"
mechanical gap which quickly takes the cell into a
super-conduction mode which takes out the driving DC
power supply.
You can flush the magnetic gaps with distilled water
and the gaps
will show in the meg-ohm range then go to zero ohms
after a short
period of running, the gathered ions totally short
cell. During
the brief runs there is a huge amount of hydrogen gas
produced�
which I burned off as it was generated.� Much can be
said about
driving the cell with high frequencies as the Myers
research
showed.� Our friend up in Canada at George Wiseman,
Eagle Research
is running well ahead of the crowd on the production
of H-H-O.
Just for giggles!


16 October
1996
To: Hal
Fox,� Fusion Facts
Elemental
Replication ?
�
����� Around mid
September
I put together an
electrolysis cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold
Fusion Cell
with the goal of
exploring the possibilities of making what is
termed �Pristine
Water�.�� This water
which will be used by Homeopaths
will have had all memory or information
removed.� This is accomplished by
recombining monatomic
hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated in a
properly
designed cell.� This is
the ultimate in purity since this is
water with conditions at the time of original
creation.� �Holly Water�is a term
coined by my dear
friend and fellow researcher Joe Tyls of
Vancouver, BC.�� After several weeks of
successful operation
producing water that had all the earmarks of a
true �pristine
water� a fellow
researcher suggested using an alternate
electrolyte.�� A solution was selected
that contained 77
colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the
easiest
assimilated into the
body.�� With the
electrolyte changed the
cell was put back into operation as before with a
nice
recombination burn and
production of the sought after �pristine
water�.�������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������
�������
��� After about an
hour of
operation the cell
went absolutely �nuts� with the temperature
rapidly climbing
to boiling point
and the current out of sight.�
When the
cell was opened we found a deep red sludge deposit
which
shorted the cell
plates.�� Our first
thought was that the
electrolytic action precipitated out the colloidal
minerals
which caused the
deposit found.�� The�
electrolyte was allowed
to settle out the
precipitate.�� After�
decanting off,� the clear electrolyte
was
returned to the
cell for another run. Again the cell operated
normally for
about an hour with a
normal recombination burn and recovery of the
water being
consumed by the cell
in the splitting action.�� Again
the cell
temperature and current mirrored the first
run.�
Again the cell contained the same amount of
sludge
residue.�� This process
was repeated ten (10) times
with exactly the same results.��
All of
the sludge was carefully dried and weighed on an
electronic
scale with a five
decimal
resolution.���������������������
The cell plates and all hardware were
weighed to
determine any loss of
mass that may contribute to the mass gain observed
in the
sludge.� Five hundred
(500) ml of the original
electrolyte solution used in the cell was vacuum
distilled to
determine the
exact mass of colloidal minerals
contained.�
When all factors were considered we came
out with a
mass gain of� 48 gm
which cannot be explained by
conventional
electrolysis.����������������������

��� After talking
to Dr.
Robert Bass and Hal
Fox I learned of a patent that has been filed on
the
transmutation of elements
in the cold fusion cell which is the process that
Dr. John
Bockris has been so
active in.�� Both Dr.
Bass and Hal Fox
stated that what I was observing is not the same
as the
transmutation observed
in the cold fusion cell since I have a overall
mass gain and
not a lateral
movement of elements in the periodic table toward
lighter
elements with a
resulting heat release.� This
unusual
cell operation has caused quite a reaction in the
scientific
community. �At this
time I have built a complete new cell
with every possible factor which could possibly
explain the
mass gain
considered and documented.� The
ten (10)
consecutive runs on the new cell will be completed
soon and a
report will be
forthcoming.�� What is
interesting about
this phenomenon is that when an eleventh run was
made with the
original
electrolyte exactly the same amount of residue was
recovered
as in the previous
ten
runs.�����������������������������������������������������������������������

�
Since
the same electrolyte is reused each time with only
distilled
water being added
to replace the volume lost by the removal of the
solids and
the water recovered
by the recombination burn we are hard pressed to
explain the
observed
phenomenon.���� The
electrolyte appears
stronger in mineral concentration and shows no
sign of

depletion.��������������������������������

�� After conferring
with
Joe Tyls we arrived at
the conclusion that the 77 colloidal minerals
contained in the
electrolyte
provide the atomic templates needed for the
monatomic hydrogen
(father of all
the elements) to replicate selected elements in
this exotic
mixture.� If you
subscribe to the theories of the late
Walter Russell and his explanation of the octave
based
periodic table with
monatonic hydrogen being what he describes as
hydrons
(precursor to hydrogen)
then it is possible for the replication of
elements directly
from energy input
alone.� This is how all
matter was
created in the beginning as described by
Schappeller in �The
Physics of the
Primary State of Matter�.��� I
will keep
all informed as to our progress and findings in
this very
intriguing venture.
�
Norman
Wootan
P.O.
Box 141049
Dallas,
TX 75214
(214)
360-0865
�
�
CC:� Gene Mallove,
Infinite
Energy
CC:� Dr. John
Bockris, Texas
A/M






On 10/28/2018 1:01 AM,
Jakob Wall
wall_jakob@...<mailto:wall_jakob@...>
[EVGRAY] wrote:




�


Thanks Norman,



BTW, what is the most effective water split
device that
you ever put you hands on?

As HHO researcher for dekades you should be
able to point
us directly to the most effective known!

Please be specific about reconstruction of the
same, since
we are in public domain it will become public
knowledge
and public good. I assume you intend nothing
else,rigth ?


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On Sat, 10/27/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@...<mailto:nwootan@...>
[EVGRAY]
<[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>
wrote:



Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's
Magnetic
Battery [3 Attachments]

To: "Bert Pool" <BertPool512@...><mailto:BertPool512@...>,
"Bob
Paddock" <bob.paddock@...><mailto:bob.paddock@...>,
"joel mcclain"
<joel_76670@...><mailto:joel_76670@...>,
"Jon Gentry"
<jongen422@...><mailto:jongen422@...>,
"Lane Wootan"
<lanewootan@...><mailto:lanewootan@...>,
"Mbking42"
<mbking42@...><mailto:mbking42@....>,
"Toby Grotz"
<wireless2@...><mailto:wireless2@...>,
"Phil Rembold"
<prembold@...><mailto:prembold@....>,
"Angel Alvarez"
<angel@...><mailto:angel@...>,
"Fredric Fletcher"
<ffletcher@...><mailto:ffletcher@...>,
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

To understand the unwinding of a thread
leading

to Magnetic

Generating Hydrogen and this Magnetic Battery,
we have

to dust off

our� 9th grade Chemistry Books!

http://www.rexresearch.com/ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm�����

I guess Dr.

Ehrenhaft was the first to propose a Magnetic
Current.

(Jon

Gentry, Your liquid metal vortex helix).

https://revolution-green.com/can-electrolysis-powered-magnets/������

Ah! Ha!� more on Magnetic Currents!!!

https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446..html<https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446.html>

https://www.labmanager.com/white-papers-and-application-notes/2010/05/resistivity-conductivity-measurement-of-purified-water#.W9So9uJRc2w

https://www.askiitians.com/forums/Physical-Chemistry/19/19074/electro-che

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpotential<https://en.m..wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpotential>

https://www.quora.com/Why-is-oxygen-molecule-paramagnetic-although-it-does-not-contain-any-unpaired-electron

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251580541_The_effect_of_magnetic_force_on_hydrogen_production_efficiency_in_water_electrolysis

http://www.physicscentral.com/experiment/physicsathome/electricwhirlpool.cfm

http://www.linux-host.org/energy/bmagpump.htm

Now Jon Gentry you have your liquid metal pump
so

that you can

make the helix tube Vortex!�
Ferricpetacarbonyl or

micro fine neo

powder to provide the liquid metal for pump

circuit.

Lots of reading here!���� Please think
about the

ramifications of

a Magnetic Current as proposed by Dr.
Ehrenhaft!























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[27/92] Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery [1 Attachment]

2018-11-11T05:38:29+00:00 · bart woodard <[email protected]>
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Mick,

            Quite the info . I am and have been connected to the University and the Local college. The Canadian Government has started a new course to

educate what they will deem master growers. These master growers will be tagged and registered for control at a commercial regulated level.

It is the first course which has started this year . The registered growers are mostly masters from biotec as well as bio genetics. Many have phds.

The college has taken 24 people from across the country to educate, hand picked by the government.

There have been meetings at my place , at the University and college. They have asked if I can get the cost per kilo down to pennies ! lol

As well as keeping a high yield. Really I do not know anything about cannabis and told them so. Twelve to fourteen weeks I am told.

They have asked if I can increase the terpenes and trichome  values lol

The government offices have been in touch several times and have told me a minimum value.

A micro operation should yield 2.7 m with a cost of 400k yearly.  So its probably a large stretch on the reality side.

So its a whole new challenge. To make this even crazier, five of my neighbors are city police and RCMP officers which have also asked to participate.!

What I would really like to do is set up a 2 acre conveyor type style green house for lettuce with an increase on cbd.

But thats for down the road.

So its killer bud ,not killer bees now huh!


As  for the stirrer rod . Are you referring to the magnet that creates the vortex?  If the coating bothers you then perhaps cut it off and clean the magnet.

You may be able to find some ceramic coated mags . I think most are.


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Bart,

This is cannabis growing country big time.  I was involved with a medical grow once where frogs and wasps took care of all greenhouse invaders, problem is the wasps would sometimes get too high and die headfirst in a flower, truly killer bud.  Strains are important depending on what you desire but the whole science thing can get into analysis paralysis.  We have tons of people growing female hemp farms here for CBD and tons of others the THC combo.

Prices used to be 2500- 2 grand a pound wholesale, 1500 for growers who wanted to dump on the market.  After it was legalized here for recreation I was wondering what wholesale prices would do.   It took all of 6 months for capitalism to equalize the price to 500 lb tops.  Property values with farm land peaked at first now less than 2 years later many are going into foreclosure as there is a reason it's called a weed and almost anyone can grow it.

Tons of people walking around rural roads that look like the peasants in old paintings of the masters, filthy and not into bathing and many failed growers substituting meth as a business model.  We did not anticipate the street type person who would become prevalent as support for these farms as trimmers etc and the stuff people used to be safe leaving out in front of their country homes is now disappearing as crimes of opportunity grow.

We are also running into some issues with formerly anti-chemical hippies beginning to saturate with pesticides and decimating the bee population so the dispensaries were forced to require testing for all concentrates.

I suggest anyone who wants to turn this into a business simply find a good farm rental space and prove the business out.  As with the gold rush I think the main profiteers will soon be the companies selling the support products rather than the end product.  I was considering the same since I know a good bit about the science and am good at it but wanted to have a look at the price fluctuations first, glad I did.

I am very happy people are no longer put in cages for wanting to smoke or purchase some weed but was not prepared for the downsides I mentioned.  I think even the longtime growers are unhappy about the recreation legalization now.

One good side is at the dispensaries there are some formerly unemployable people who would be in mom's basement for life otherwise, with jobs. I suppose this is good.  On the other side of things cannabis is an extremely powerful mind altering drug though not takes seriously due to it's very safe and non-toxic nature. Many young people are being seduced into a non productive lifestyle from getting too planted.  I have witnessed disasters in families who allowed their high school age kids to smoke out with them.

Thanks for the links and info.  In Chinese medicine I have seen amazing results with dark field blood testing and believe in it along with Rife and much of the rest of the so called "quack" medicine.

All the stirrer rods I can find are covered in teflon, can you point out something better?

On 11/10/2018 3:44 PM, bart woodard [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:


Mick,

   I use all glass(general) in all of of my process , from start to consumption.

As far as carcinogenics go, I roll with it mostly. As the body flushes it out at this size.dark field analyses.

You can check ec

As the parts per billion are not inductive to any negative value in compilation.

Under any lab results   the values go off the charts so I have been mostly doing

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark-field_microscopy

[https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f3/Dark_field_and_phase_contrast_microscopies.ogv/1200px--Dark_field_and_phase_contrast_microscopies.ogv.jpg]<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark-field_microscopy>

Dark-field microscopy - Wikipedia<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark-field_microscopy>
en.wikipedia.org
Dark-field microscopy is a very simple yet effective technique and well suited for uses involving live and unstained biological samples, such as a smear from a tissue culture or individual, water-borne, single-celled organisms. Considering the simplicity of the setup, the quality of images obtained from this technique is impressive.

at home under my own microscope, checking positive values with negative values in comparisons. been doing this for years now.

Even with some people consider this bull , it does have a valid outcome with exercise of repetitive work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mg21897IW_4

[https://www.bing.com/th?id=OVP.GHl_nbO52EtaT7fiPEpA_QEsDh&pid=Api]<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mg21897IW_4>

Live Blood Analysis Dark Field Microscopy explained<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mg21897IW_4>
www.youtube.com<http://www.youtube.com>
Dark Field Microscopy Live Blood Analysis explained like never before

Any values that gets through are of good results as proven by results.  When we refect positive intent we get the same.

As far as deposits collected at the bottom of you vessel, it could be gold or copper pending on colour .  or sludge build of a dominated mineral.

Mounatous  regions can have anything as plates push everything.  All water tables run every and anywhere. It can be a good coloidal value.

Certain plants thrive on different minerals, check the vegitation results in your area.

         sapogens ?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapogenin

[https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c0/Yamogenin.svg/1200px-Yamogenin.svg.png]<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapogenin>

Sapogenin - Wikipedia<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapogenin>
en.wikipedia.org
Sapogenins are the aglycones, or non-saccharide, portions of the family of natural products known as saponins.Sapogenins contain steroid or other triterpene frameworks as their key organic feature. For example, steroidal sapogenins such as tiggenin, neogitogenin, and tokorogenin have been isolated from the tubers of Chlorophytum arundinaceum. Some steroidal sapogenins can serve as a practical ...

I am recently looking at starting what is called a micro growing operation for cannabis here in Canada.

The prof is here because he feels we can play with research regarding the enhancement of cbd and the thc levels regarding the dna enhancements.

So I have been looking to purchase a farm. The returns on a yearly basis are impressive  1.5  4.5 mill. based on 600 kilos.

Open for offers for any one.

As far as Norms water device , it is a soft application making use of the nonferrite mags. Good stuff!

It creates a gentle enhancement on charges all arround for organs , skin , hair, eyes etc.


Hopefully some value for you!

Bart

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Bart,

Tell your friend-Even if ethically swayed by grant money, professors can be human too, or maybe long ago they once were.

Is there any procedure you utilize to determine if the ghost elements are carcinogenic or not?

What is the best material for the magnetic stirrer?

I think many are polyethylene coated due to it's inert nature.

I recently acquired this water distiller. I have seen these used in two places with tap water in Southern California and the crap on the bottom stunk and was brown and crusty.  When I use the distiller with my processed water the bottom of the unit is clean but for a few drop of something I have been collecting in a glass.   We live in Oregon in the mountains not near any old mines or chemical sites so the water is pretty pristine except for a high concentration of minerals and manganese.

The stuff left in the distiller has a flowery smell so I think it make be sapogens from plants or oils from minerals, maybe just info fields trying to recombine.

On 11/10/2018 12:31 PM, bart woodard [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:


Hi Mick,

  Well needless to say... you are charged lol!

All water from any where has different values with different mineral combinations.

So whether its been RO then distilled it will still continue with carrying its trace like (ghost)  elements. You are only looking at ppm or parts per million.

Not parts per billion and so on. Some say parts per google!

Unfortunately most will be carcinogenic due to its weight like or charges needed to extend itself  tho not all will.

Even so with the stirrer the vortex will create an implosion enhancing the ghost like values remaining.

The molecule will become broken down to several sizes smaller , lets say 5 times approximately or less or greater than.

The four principles of play come in effect.

The Four Fundamental Forces and their strengths

  *   Gravitational Force – Weakest force; but infinite range. ( Not part of standard model)
  *   Weak Nuclear Force – Next weakest; but short range.
  *   Electromagnetic Force – Stronger, with infinite range.
  *   Strong Nuclear Force – Strongest; but short range.

With in the molecule it has a characteristic tendency so as not to enhance its ph factor with straight on electrical simulated charges.

We can not for now mimic the frequency  water likes to evolve to sustain itself at keeping it at a stabilized value with in.

So circuit wise or electronically it is only a short life the ph may be increased . Tho I have not ventured out lately.

Its been several years for me so forgive my sloppy answers on recalling the research done.

Magnetic values are best used for the best overall out come. The molecule stabilizes itself after a would be spike ( Brownian Motion).

Distilled that's  acidic at 6.2  can be elevated to 7.4 after it hits 8.5 or so give or take.

It can stabilize itself to 7.4 which is where I like it to be for consumption.

Tap water, well water etc will go to ammonia like, say right up to 14- 15- ph.

Good for paint stripping lol.

So distilled @ 0 ppm  will go to 3ppm or more as well as the ph increase.

I do not want to use RO as its values can be anywhere.

The clustering effect has all the values as in one make up volume.

So you get it all , all charges , but mostly enhanced as our body only keeps the larger values and discharges the unwanted ones .

We discharge positive and maintain negative values.

In another words you get it all good with the bad. But still better than a too high ph value as this can burn your cilia and enzymes

with all and good and bad acids in digestion values.

Our mitochondria will only accept values approx one micron , so water at five or more times smaller hydrates our cells more easily.

Thus delivering any value needed to cells requiring assistance.

Hope this has some value some-wheres lol

As I said its been a while.

Bart

PS  A prof just showed up while I am typing this laughing at me .

        He says to add that the sun feels symbiotic to earth as it senses we are out of sync so its releasing more flares.

I told him its the hydrogen intent! lol



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Sent: November 10


Bart,

Your information including on your cat is very interesting.  I have been using distilled water that is first softened and then RO  then distilled beginning from my well.   It has a similar "drying" effect as norms wholly water though not as pronounced.

Could you please provide more information on your experiments concerning distilled water and using the magnetic stirrer and how that alkalizes the water?   The NMR and parahydrogen post if very long winded so difficult for me to get the gist of your presentation.

Thanks,

Mick

On 11/10/2018 10:37 AM, bart woodard [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:


I use a magnetic stirrer with distilled and wait for the ph to rise, the results are immediate.

https://hannainst.com/hi190m-1-magnetic-mini-stirrer.html

Mini Magnetic Stirrer (115V) - HI190M-1 - Hanna Instruments<https://hannainst.com/hi190m-1-magnetic-mini-stirrer.html>
hannainst.com
Compact. Lightweight. This mini magnetic stirrer with plastic cover can stir up to 1 liter. Big power, small footprint. Perfect for any lab!




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Sent: November 10, 2018 12:34 PM
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Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery [2 Attachments]



No!� Bart, never got into that exotic element stuff!� Just followed those that were!

On 11/10/2018 10:42 AM, bart woodard [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
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Hey Norm , your life's experiences have been fruitful!! Congrats!!

Have you ever played with table top combinations� such as thorium and fluoride or the molten salt combo?

On a hobbyist� basis approach?

Rossi likes to inject nickel/mag� powder so as I see to maintain his 1k output!.

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Sent: November 9, 2018 3:12 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery [2 Attachments]
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Mick! To answer the rest of your questions:� In that ARC process you have to use carbon rods to yield the carbon monoxide & hydrogen.� (carbon source) (arc is heat source).

Holy Water was interesting part of the Elemental Replication experiment. See:�

Elemental Replication ?

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����� Around mid September I put together an electrolysis cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold Fusion Cell with the goal of exploring the possibilities of making what is termed �Pristine Water�.�� This water which will be used by Homeopaths will have had all memory or information removed.� This is accomplished by recombining monatomic hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated in a properly designed cell.� This is the ultimate in purity since this is water with conditions at the time of original creation.� �Wholy Water�is a term coined by my dear friend and fellow researcher Joe Tyls of Vancouver, BC.�� After several weeks of successful operation producing water that had all the earmarks of a true �pristine water� a fellow researcher suggested using an alternate electrolyte.�� A solution was selected that contained 77 colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the easiest assimilated into the body.�� With the electrolyte changed the cell was put back into operation as before with a nice recombination burn and production of the sought after �pristine water�.���


The water produced in the recombination burn of the H-H-O was collected from a silica glass condenser into a silica glass beaker for sampling.� When you flipped several CCs of the water into your mouth and tried to swallow, there was nothing there.� Hmmmm!� We immediately tested the viscosity and surface tension of the water and found it to be far below human blood which means that the water diffused directly into the capillaries around the tongue therefore nothing there to swallow.� The two Doctor who were there were amazed. � To prove the theory as to information carried by water, we collected a sample of several CCs into a plastic lab cup instead of the silica glass beaker. When you flipped the several CCs into your mouth you had to immediately spit it out for it was pure taste of plastic. This water picks up signature of anything it comes into contact with.� That is why the Homeopathic Doctors wanted it for making their tinctures.��� (signature of a healing agent). ��� We had all the necessary instruments to evaluate the Pristine water. See: � https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemorheology<https://en..m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemorheology>

Hemorheology - Wikipedia<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemorheology>
en.m.wikipedia.org
Blood viscosity is a measure of the resistance of blood to flow. It can also be described as the thickness and stickiness of blood. This biophysical property makes it a critical determinant of friction against the vessel walls, the rate of venous return, the work required for the heart to pump blood, and how much oxygen is transported to tissues and organs.


�� http://www.dynalenelabs.com/testing-services/thermal-testing/viscosity-rheology/?gclid=CjwKCAiA_ZTfBRBjEiwAN6YG4SdHu5bWZ9yHLBM9VNQ0TLl4tB1hOqMvR_dOEHNbGX6k_kDHHtb5xhoCgIgQAvD_BwE �������� https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tensiometer<https://en..m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tensiometer>

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I made an offer to the Doctors present that a small unit for production of a liter/day of Pristine Water via complete unit built of quartz glass could be had for $5,000. Apparently they were not that enthused as we thought!� Oh! Well!

I built numerous Pyramids of all sizes and the Orgone Accumulators and even the Cloud� Buster.�� The pyramid experiments were very interesting for real effects were shown.�� Never tested whether water would� break after treatment by either Orgone� or pyramid.��� The complete description of the 4 inch cell is in the Elemental replication Part Two. See:


Cell Description

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��� The electrolysis cell is designed to hold one (1) liter of electrolyte and operate at approximately 150 watt power level for the production of monatomic hydrogen and� monatomic oxygen which is burned back to pure water and collected in a glass condenser.� Cell container is schedule 40 PVC pipe section 6 inches long with bottom cap cemented on.� The top of the cell has a 4 inch female thread adapter cemented on to provide access to the interior via a male threaded plug which has the gas outlet port and two electrolyte fill ports to provide for replacement of lost electrolyte on the fly for continuos operation.� Positive and negative terminals are provided for external connection of the power supply leads to the internal anode- cathode stack.

��� The cell plate stack consist of 8 anode plates and 8 cathode plates of the following sizes constructed from 316L stainless steel of 22 ga. thickness.

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On 11/8/2018 4:29 PM, Mick [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
�

Hi Norm,

The catalysts are very interesting.� Iron Cobalt and Nickel all ferromagnetic but at different spins.

Correct me if I am wrong but based on reading your links a bingofuel type reactor using tungsten electrodes that hopefully would last much longer would likely produce OH rather than H and carbon monoxide, what do you think?

Also water is strange indeed in that a pyramid or orgone accumulator changes it and these simple changes could make for water that breaks up more easily.� I would love to know what results you demonstrated with the totally juvenile memory free water you put back together from the OH?�

Sorry to hear about your neck fracture, I have a similar issue and it is extremely painful and debilitating at times.

Mick

On 11/7/2018 4:15 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
�


On 11/7/2018 6:06 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:

Jakob Wall! & all other researchers on here need to read the Whole Story as to why I no longer have a research lab.� Jakob, I'm sorry I did not reveal to you the BEST in my opinion of methods of producing hydrogen gas for I felt it was a little too advanced and difficult for you to experiment with.� See: https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en .�� There is a very long story behind this US Patent and a hell of a lot of research. The quest for a very inexpensive method of splitting water has been the Holy Grail of� cheap energy.�� In addition to the research papers and links that I gave to you, here are some more to dwell on.

https://www.researchgate.net/post/At_what_temperature_water_will_decompose_to_Oxygen_and_Hydrogen<https://www..researchgate.net/post/At_what_temperature_water_will_decompose_to_Oxygen_and_Hydrogen>

https://www.quora.com/Does-water-break-down-into-oxygen-and-hydrogen-at-high-temperatures-If-so-then-at-what-temperature<https://www..quora.com/Does-water-break-down-into-oxygen-and-hydrogen-at-high-temperatures-If-so-then-at-what-temperature>

https://www.quora.com/How-much-water-can-you-split-into-hydrogen-and-oxygen-using-electrolysis-with-one-kilowatt-hour-of-electricity<https://www..quora.com/How-much-water-can-you-split-into-hydrogen-and-oxygen-using-electrolysis-with-one-kilowatt-hour-of-electricity>

http://www.redrok.com/hion96a1.htm

https://www.nature.com/articles/nplants201741<https://www..nature.com/articles/nplants201741>�� Please read carefully about the play of Nickel in this approach!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_splitting

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water-gas_shift_reaction��� I owned 77 acres of land in Eureka Springs, AR where they still had the old water gas generator and gas storage facility.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decarboxylation

https://phys.org/news/2018-02-uncovers-mechanism-water-splitting-catalyst.html

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/new-catalyst-could-split-water-cheaply/<https://www..scientificamerican.com/article/new-catalyst-could-split-water-cheaply/>

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/512996/a-cheaper-way-to-make-hydrogen-from-water/<https://www..technologyreview.com/s/512996/a-cheaper-way-to-make-hydrogen-from-water/>

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Leonard Dorsett (PO Box 365, Grapevine, TX 76092) demonstrated his Super Steam Technology at the 1994 International Tesla Symposium. SST is a system for producing steam at any temperature or pressure independently and instantly without the need for a conventional boiler. It can instantly produce steam of any temperature from hot water at 180F to super heated steam at over 3000F, while pressures can vary from 1PSI to 3000PSI with airflow volumes of 1CFM up to over 2000CFM. The system operates on propane, methane, petrol, kerosene, methanol, diesel, hydrogen or just about anything else that bums and converts virtually 100% of the fuel into usable energy. (Note: The person in the picture is Norman Wootan of MRA fame)

This all sounds great, but how does it work? The basis of the unit is a specially designed open throat chamber with controlled air, water and fuel interaction and a high voltage ignition resulting in a direct fire process establishing thermal zones. This creates a stoichiometric condition resulting in a full spectrum of steam product. Now comes the interesting part At the increased temperatures of steam, disassociation occurs. (Could this be a clue to running cars on water??) The hydrogen and oxygen reacts causing an exponential increase of energy resulting in super heated steam. A similar superheat process was addressed by Tesla in the October 12, 1911 publication of the "Engineering News Record".

Applications of the SST system include a much more economical way of producing electricity as no conventional boiler is needed. It will also be an ideal low cost method for heating and cooling homes and businesses. Small portable units can be developed for home use, such as steam cleaning, and insect and ant removal, without the dangers of insecticides. The system can also be used for low cost purification of polluted water or sewerage and can also convert salt water into drinking water both quickly and inexpensively. Other uses are in fire fighting applications, ice and snow removal from roads, etc. and sterilization and nurturing of soil for agriculture where contamination has occurred.

I had designed a method of making hydrogen from carbon & water vapor using the Tesla Atomic Bombardment method of high frequency inside of spherical inclosure like this experiments with the carbon button lamp globes.�� After working with Leonard Dorsett and his Super Steam Project, I chose to use the Water Shift Process instead.� A side note is needed here!� The Super Steam Process was a result of Professor Brown studying the method the German's used for torpedo propulsion from WWI.� Acetylene Gas and sea water produced an exothermic reaction generating Super Steam. Brown built several reactors and tested them in the Tulsa area to break (down hole) the parafin deposits to release crude oil.

The Chemical equation for the reaction in the US Patent: https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en

(6C + 12 H2O� = 6CO2 + 24H)

Hydrogen Reactor Development

�

Original concept design was a high voltage, high frequency resonant device that utilized carbon water reaction with the feedstock being in the form of graphite rod stock.� This unit was designed for vehicle application and had too many limitations to be used for mass hydrogen generation.� This type reactor is very effective at hydrogen production since it targets the water vapor molecule at MRI frequencies, which breaks the bonding, allowing the carbon to latch onto the oxygen atoms leaving the hydrogen free. This device was a closed system that used a simple CO2/hydrogen separation stage that enabled the hydrogen to be feed to an internal combustion engine.

�

To allow for a sustained high mass flow of hydrogen gas output, reactor design took on a radical change.� By incorporating the Ranque/Hilsch, Counter Flow Implosion Vortex Principle, and continuous high mass flow and gas separation were achieved in one stage of operation.� Feedstock for this type reactor could be any carbon-based material that could be put into a powder form.� Highest carbon content of the feedstock provides for the most efficient hydrogen production with the least undesirable output material.

�

Super high temperature operating regime was chosen to be above 2500 C for the purpose of producing atomic hydrogen in the process.� The original reactor operated at temperatures that easily gasified basic carbon into a plasma state (>10,000 F) more easily allowing the production of hydrogen from the stoichiometric feed stock ratios.


[cid:[email protected]]

I sold one of my Patents (Sonodiffuser) and paid for my 52 acres of land and built a 5200 sq. Ft. lab the do the Prototype machining and Proof of Concept testing for GAZPROM, Moscow in 2005. A $1.2 million investment and they got the rights to the process and I got the beautiful Research Lab all paid in full. I was a self employed Contractor in Dallas working with HVAC, Electrical and Electronics Maintenance so had to commute 170 miles/day and only had the week ends for my time! Having to mow grass and maintane the 52 acres took all my time and when I suffered a neck fracture in 2012, had to retire. Liquidated the entire facility and sold it off. Moved to Dallas then to South Louisiana where I now do a lot of relaxing and fishing!

Hector and ALL, I did my time in the Barrel so now I will just contribute to the dialog inorder to assist any research you may be doing within my area of experitise!���� BTW! I have been out to pasture for a long time now, so no BULL offense!� As Hector knows, "It fits"! Lol



[cid:[email protected]]

Yes! Hector, I will wear my Border Patrol Hat when you come visit from PR!� Lol




On 11/6/2018 8:52 PM, [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
�

By the way ... i can hit mega millions or the power ball� . i never will not have a lab i can work in,� that is worst than death , you have no idea of the technology that had being lost by the greedy fucking bastards fucking my life , they will loose all they have� "soon" because it had being engineered that way by accumulative bad karma, i have another lab they will never reach or be able to intercept or destroy and that will decide their fate ..... they will be fucked hard !



(H)� �

---In [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>, <mkjekyll@...><mailto:mkjekyll@...> wrote :


Cmon Hector,

Bad taste!

The man had a more serious lab than anyone else here and his work speaks for itself.� Maybe he has gained the fortune he desired through R&D and now shitting in tall cotton or gone fishing reaping the rewards of retirement. Notwithstanding is still kind enough to help point us in the right directions around here.

"Funny�I can look back on a life of achievement, on challenges met, competitors bested, obstacles overcome. I�ve accomplished more than most men, and without the use of my legs. What?What makes a man, Mr. Lebowski?"

On 11/6/2018 8:04 AM, arkresearch@...<mailto:arkresearch@....> [EVGRAY] wrote:
�

Dar n ! a Scientist inventor with no lab is like a breeding bull with no balls !

[Balls Cow                                                           GIF - Balls                                                           Cow                                                           WingDangDoodle                                                           GIFs]


---In [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>, <nwootan@...><mailto:nwootan@...> wrote :


Jacob! You asked me a question and I gave you my opinion!� I'm totally retired at 80 years old and have no lab to experiment in!� Your quote; I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. '' Slow down boy, we get paid for llooking for solutions, not to find them!''�� That certainly does not apply to me for I have shared all with the folks on this site.� I find you statement very interesting:� Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours with usual amount of gas looks to me extremely inefficient.�� ??????������� Care to share where you saw the power of a permanent magnet being used up!�� We all here on this site share what ever knowledge we have on the various subjects not seeking any monetary gain in any way! That is my approach!�� I just contribute to the dialog when I run across something interesting and think it will assist you guys!�� Norm

On 11/3/2018 11:32 PM, Jakob Wall wall_jakob@...<mailto:wall_jakob@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
�

Thanks Norman,
But i actually asced for ''most efficient way'' to split water known to you!
I realize there are a lot of different technigues to do just that.
And yes i realize you could give me a rather complex answer. But instead i hope for a
rather easy and reproductive answer since i am looking forward to solve my enerrgy
problems i just can not live with the momentary (sad and very stupid energy situation)
I am still not giving up becouse of a couple mistakes and misunderstandings....
If i would be a car dealer and you would ask me for a most efficient car available on the market
i would for sure not recommend a Prius, since there are a lot of cars with better fuel economie
even without being a hybrid and without additional cost like batterys,e-motors and a bunch added ECU's

Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours with usual amount of gas looks to me extremely
inefficient.
Also very expensive HHO-Garage products with output of 1,6 ltr/min.
Come on, 6 rusty nails and a old car batery does this job, no need to spend 1600 bucks on it.
I honestly expected solide advise or a honest NO way boy, i just talking around.

I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. '' Slow down boy, we get paid for llooking for
solutions, not to find them!'' That shoked me deeply and even if i get 150 years old, i will not forget it.
Thats true treason on mankind and deciving the people. I really hope nobody on this forum only care
about what he/she will be doing tomorrow.

Jakob

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On Sun, 10/28/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@...<mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]> wrote:

Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>, "Bert Pool" <BertPool512@...><mailto:BertPool512@...>, "Bob Paddock" <bob.paddock@...><mailto:bob.paddock@...>, "joel mcclain" <joel_76670@...><mailto:joel_76670@...>, "Jon Gentry" <jongen422@...><mailto:jongen422@...>, "Mbking42" <mbking42@...><mailto:mbking42@...>, "Toby Grotz" <wireless2@...><mailto:wireless2@...>, "Phil Rembold" <prembold@...><mailto:prembold@...>, "Angel Alvarez" <angel@...><mailto:angel@...>, "Fredric Fletcher" <ffletcher@...><mailto:ffletcher@...>
Received: Sunday, October 28, 2018, 9:44 AM


�












Jacob!� That would be a rather complex answer
but here is your
starting point!
https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct-thermomagnetic-splitting-of-water-.html���
After having been heavily involved in the COLD FUSION
Research
back in the 70s and 80s I quickly settled o0n the best
catalyst in
electrolytic cells which is pure nickel. I still have
the cell
used in the Elemental Replication experiments.


http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm����
The hidden
part of this research is the use of a nickel component
in the
combustion chamber. Bosch developed 90,000V ignition
systems to
enable water injection in gas engine which high
lighted the
Graneau HV decomposition of water via HVDC
discharge!
My magnetic Battery when run as an electrolytic cell
to produce
hydrogen does produce a huge amount of hydrogen gas as
shown by
the Dr. Ehrenhaft document.� I would tell you to
pursue the super
high Tesla magnetic flux and nickel electrodes in an
electrolytic
cell.� The major obstacle to be overcome is the rapid
collection
of ions from solution by the 1.3 Tesla flux across a
....020"
mechanical gap which quickly takes the cell into a
super-conduction mode which takes out the driving DC
power supply.
You can flush the magnetic gaps with distilled water
and the gaps
will show in the meg-ohm range then go to zero ohms
after a short
period of running, the gathered ions totally short
cell. During
the brief runs there is a huge amount of hydrogen gas
produced�
which I burned off as it was generated.� Much can be
said about
driving the cell with high frequencies as the Myers
research
showed.� Our friend up in Canada at George Wiseman,
Eagle Research
is running well ahead of the crowd on the production
of H-H-O.
Just for giggles!


16 October
1996
To: Hal
Fox,� Fusion Facts
Elemental
Replication ?
�
����� Around mid
September
I put together an
electrolysis cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold
Fusion Cell
with the goal of
exploring the possibilities of making what is
termed �Pristine
Water�.�� This water
which will be used by Homeopaths
will have had all memory or information
removed.� This is accomplished by
recombining monatomic
hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated in a
properly
designed cell.� This is
the ultimate in purity since this is
water with conditions at the time of original
creation.� �Holly Water�is a term
coined by my dear
friend and fellow researcher Joe Tyls of
Vancouver, BC.�� After several weeks of
successful operation
producing water that had all the earmarks of a
true �pristine
water� a fellow
researcher suggested using an alternate
electrolyte.�� A solution was selected
that contained 77
colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the
easiest
assimilated into the
body.�� With the
electrolyte changed the
cell was put back into operation as before with a
nice
recombination burn and
production of the sought after �pristine
water�.�������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������
�������
��� After about an
hour of
operation the cell
went absolutely �nuts� with the temperature
rapidly climbing
to boiling point
and the current out of sight.�
When the
cell was opened we found a deep red sludge deposit
which
shorted the cell
plates.�� Our first
thought was that the
electrolytic action precipitated out the colloidal
minerals
which caused the
deposit found.�� The�
electrolyte was allowed
to settle out the
precipitate.�� After�
decanting off,� the clear electrolyte
was
returned to the
cell for another run. Again the cell operated
normally for
about an hour with a
normal recombination burn and recovery of the
water being
consumed by the cell
in the splitting action.�� Again
the cell
temperature and current mirrored the first
run.�
Again the cell contained the same amount of
sludge
residue.�� This process
was repeated ten (10) times
with exactly the same results.��
All of
the sludge was carefully dried and weighed on an
electronic
scale with a five
decimal
resolution.���������������������
The cell plates and all hardware were
weighed to
determine any loss of
mass that may contribute to the mass gain observed
in the
sludge.� Five hundred
(500) ml of the original
electrolyte solution used in the cell was vacuum
distilled to
determine the
exact mass of colloidal minerals
contained.�
When all factors were considered we came
out with a
mass gain of� 48 gm
which cannot be explained by
conventional
electrolysis.����������������������

��� After talking
to Dr.
Robert Bass and Hal
Fox I learned of a patent that has been filed on
the
transmutation of elements
in the cold fusion cell which is the process that
Dr. John
Bockris has been so
active in.�� Both Dr.
Bass and Hal Fox
stated that what I was observing is not the same
as the
transmutation observed
in the cold fusion cell since I have a overall
mass gain and
not a lateral
movement of elements in the periodic table toward
lighter
elements with a
resulting heat release.� This
unusual
cell operation has caused quite a reaction in the
scientific
community. �At this
time I have built a complete new cell
with every possible factor which could possibly
explain the
mass gain
considered and documented.� The
ten (10)
consecutive runs on the new cell will be completed
soon and a
report will be
forthcoming.�� What is
interesting about
this phenomenon is that when an eleventh run was
made with the
original
electrolyte exactly the same amount of residue was
recovered
as in the previous
ten
runs.�����������������������������������������������������������������������

�
Since
the same electrolyte is reused each time with only
distilled
water being added
to replace the volume lost by the removal of the
solids and
the water recovered
by the recombination burn we are hard pressed to
explain the
observed
phenomenon.���� The
electrolyte appears
stronger in mineral concentration and shows no
sign of

depletion.��������������������������������

�� After conferring
with
Joe Tyls we arrived at
the conclusion that the 77 colloidal minerals
contained in the
electrolyte
provide the atomic templates needed for the
monatomic hydrogen
(father of all
the elements) to replicate selected elements in
this exotic
mixture.� If you
subscribe to the theories of the late
Walter Russell and his explanation of the octave
based
periodic table with
monatonic hydrogen being what he describes as
hydrons
(precursor to hydrogen)
then it is possible for the replication of
elements directly
from energy input
alone.� This is how all
matter was
created in the beginning as described by
Schappeller in �The
Physics of the
Primary State of Matter�.��� I
will keep
all informed as to our progress and findings in
this very
intriguing venture.
�
Norman
Wootan
P.O.
Box 141049
Dallas,
TX 75214
(214)
360-0865
�
�
CC:� Gene Mallove,
Infinite
Energy
CC:� Dr. John
Bockris, Texas
A/M






On 10/28/2018 1:01 AM,
Jakob Wall
wall_jakob@...<mailto:wall_jakob@...>
[EVGRAY] wrote:




�


Thanks Norman,



BTW, what is the most effective water split
device that
you ever put you hands on?

As HHO researcher for dekades you should be
able to point
us directly to the most effective known!

Please be specific about reconstruction of the
same, since
we are in public domain it will become public
knowledge
and public good. I assume you intend nothing
else,rigth ?


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On Sat, 10/27/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@...<mailto:nwootan@...>
[EVGRAY]
<[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>
wrote:



Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's
Magnetic
Battery [3 Attachments]

To: "Bert Pool" <BertPool512@...><mailto:BertPool512@...>,
"Bob
Paddock" <bob.paddock@...><mailto:bob.paddock@...>,
"joel mcclain"
<joel_76670@....><mailto:joel_76670@...>,
"Jon Gentry"
<jongen422@...><mailto:jongen422@...>,
"Lane Wootan"
<lanewootan@...><mailto:lanewootan@...>,
"Mbking42"
<mbking42@...><mailto:mbking42@....>,
"Toby Grotz"
<wireless2@...><mailto:wireless2@...>,
"Phil Rembold"
<prembold@...><mailto:prembold@....>,
"Angel Alvarez"
<angel@...><mailto:angel@...>,
"Fredric Fletcher"
<ffletcher@...><mailto:ffletcher@...>,
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

To understand the unwinding of a thread
leading

to Magnetic

Generating Hydrogen and this Magnetic Battery,
we have

to dust off

our� 9th grade Chemistry Books!

http://www.rexresearch.com/ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm�����

I guess Dr.

Ehrenhaft was the first to propose a Magnetic
Current.

(Jon

Gentry, Your liquid metal vortex helix).

https://revolution-green.com/can-electrolysis-powered-magnets/������

Ah! Ha!� more on Magnetic Currents!!!

https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446..html<https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446.html>

https://www.labmanager.com/white-papers-and-application-notes/2010/05/resistivity-conductivity-measurement-of-purified-water#.W9So9uJRc2w

https://www.askiitians.com/forums/Physical-Chemistry/19/19074/electro-che

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpotential<https://en.m..wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpotential>

https://www.quora.com/Why-is-oxygen-molecule-paramagnetic-although-it-does-not-contain-any-unpaired-electron

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251580541_The_effect_of_magnetic_force_on_hydrogen_production_efficiency_in_water_electrolysis

http://www.physicscentral.com/experiment/physicsathome/electricwhirlpool.cfm

http://www.linux-host.org/energy/bmagpump.htm

Now Jon Gentry you have your liquid metal pump
so

that you can

make the helix tube Vortex!�
Ferricpetacarbonyl or

micro fine neo

powder to provide the liquid metal for pump

circuit.

Lots of reading here!���� Please think
about the

ramifications of

a Magnetic Current as proposed by Dr.
Ehrenhaft!























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[28/92] Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery [1 Attachment]

2018-11-11T05:49:28+00:00 · bart woodard <[email protected]>
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It may be possible the saponins you mentioned are some cleaning agent lodged in your distiller.

Try boiling lines fittings etc.




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Bart,

Sorry meant to say saponins

On 11/10/2018 3:44 PM, bart woodard [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:


Mick,

   I use all glass(general) in all of of my process , from start to consumption.

As far as carcinogenics go, I roll with it mostly. As the body flushes it out at this size.dark field analyses.

You can check ec

As the parts per billion are not inductive to any negative value in compilation.

Under any lab results   the values go off the charts so I have been mostly doing

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark-field_microscopy

[https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f3/Dark_field_and_phase_contrast_microscopies.ogv/1200px--Dark_field_and_phase_contrast_microscopies.ogv.jpg]<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark-field_microscopy>

Dark-field microscopy - Wikipedia<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark-field_microscopy>
en.wikipedia.org
Dark-field microscopy is a very simple yet effective technique and well suited for uses involving live and unstained biological samples, such as a smear from a tissue culture or individual, water-borne, single-celled organisms. Considering the simplicity of the setup, the quality of images obtained from this technique is impressive.

at home under my own microscope, checking positive values with negative values in comparisons. been doing this for years now.

Even with some people consider this bull , it does have a valid outcome with exercise of repetitive work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mg21897IW_4

[https://www.bing.com/th?id=OVP.GHl_nbO52EtaT7fiPEpA_QEsDh&pid=Api]<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mg21897IW_4>

Live Blood Analysis Dark Field Microscopy explained<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mg21897IW_4>
www.youtube.com<http://www.youtube.com>
Dark Field Microscopy Live Blood Analysis explained like never before

Any values that gets through are of good results as proven by results.  When we refect positive intent we get the same.

As far as deposits collected at the bottom of you vessel, it could be gold or copper pending on colour .  or sludge build of a dominated mineral.

Mounatous  regions can have anything as plates push everything.  All water tables run every and anywhere. It can be a good coloidal value.

Certain plants thrive on different minerals, check the vegitation results in your area.

         sapogens ?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapogenin

[https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c0/Yamogenin.svg/1200px-Yamogenin.svg.png]<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapogenin>

Sapogenin - Wikipedia<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapogenin>
en.wikipedia.org
Sapogenins are the aglycones, or non-saccharide, portions of the family of natural products known as saponins.Sapogenins contain steroid or other triterpene frameworks as their key organic feature. For example, steroidal sapogenins such as tiggenin, neogitogenin, and tokorogenin have been isolated from the tubers of Chlorophytum arundinaceum. Some steroidal sapogenins can serve as a practical ...

I am recently looking at starting what is called a micro growing operation for cannabis here in Canada.

The prof is here because he feels we can play with research regarding the enhancement of cbd and the thc levels regarding the dna enhancements.

So I have been looking to purchase a farm. The returns on a yearly basis are impressive  1.5  4.5 mill. based on 600 kilos.

Open for offers for any one.

As far as Norms water device , it is a soft application making use of the nonferrite mags. Good stuff!

It creates a gentle enhancement on charges all arround for organs , skin , hair, eyes etc.


Hopefully some value for you!

Bart

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Bart,

Tell your friend-Even if ethically swayed by grant money, professors can be human too, or maybe long ago they once were.

Is there any procedure you utilize to determine if the ghost elements are carcinogenic or not?

What is the best material for the magnetic stirrer?

I think many are polyethylene coated due to it's inert nature.

I recently acquired this water distiller. I have seen these used in two places with tap water in Southern California and the crap on the bottom stunk and was brown and crusty.  When I use the distiller with my processed water the bottom of the unit is clean but for a few drop of something I have been collecting in a glass.   We live in Oregon in the mountains not near any old mines or chemical sites so the water is pretty pristine except for a high concentration of minerals and manganese.

The stuff left in the distiller has a flowery smell so I think it make be sapogens from plants or oils from minerals, maybe just info fields trying to recombine.

On 11/10/2018 12:31 PM, bart woodard [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:


Hi Mick,

  Well needless to say... you are charged lol!

All water from any where has different values with different mineral combinations.

So whether its been RO then distilled it will still continue with carrying its trace like (ghost)  elements. You are only looking at ppm or parts per million.

Not parts per billion and so on. Some say parts per google!

Unfortunately most will be carcinogenic due to its weight like or charges needed to extend itself  tho not all will.

Even so with the stirrer the vortex will create an implosion enhancing the ghost like values remaining.

The molecule will become broken down to several sizes smaller , lets say 5 times approximately or less or greater than.

The four principles of play come in effect.

The Four Fundamental Forces and their strengths

  *   Gravitational Force – Weakest force; but infinite range. ( Not part of standard model)
  *   Weak Nuclear Force – Next weakest; but short range.
  *   Electromagnetic Force – Stronger, with infinite range.
  *   Strong Nuclear Force – Strongest; but short range.

With in the molecule it has a characteristic tendency so as not to enhance its ph factor with straight on electrical simulated charges.

We can not for now mimic the frequency  water likes to evolve to sustain itself at keeping it at a stabilized value with in.

So circuit wise or electronically it is only a short life the ph may be increased . Tho I have not ventured out lately.

Its been several years for me so forgive my sloppy answers on recalling the research done.

Magnetic values are best used for the best overall out come. The molecule stabilizes itself after a would be spike ( Brownian Motion).

Distilled that's  acidic at 6.2  can be elevated to 7.4 after it hits 8.5 or so give or take.

It can stabilize itself to 7.4 which is where I like it to be for consumption.

Tap water, well water etc will go to ammonia like, say right up to 14- 15- ph.

Good for paint stripping lol.

So distilled @ 0 ppm  will go to 3ppm or more as well as the ph increase.

I do not want to use RO as its values can be anywhere.

The clustering effect has all the values as in one make up volume.

So you get it all , all charges , but mostly enhanced as our body only keeps the larger values and discharges the unwanted ones .

We discharge positive and maintain negative values.

In another words you get it all good with the bad. But still better than a too high ph value as this can burn your cilia and enzymes

with all and good and bad acids in digestion values.

Our mitochondria will only accept values approx one micron , so water at five or more times smaller hydrates our cells more easily.

Thus delivering any value needed to cells requiring assistance.

Hope this has some value some-wheres lol

As I said its been a while.

Bart

PS  A prof just showed up while I am typing this laughing at me .

        He says to add that the sun feels symbiotic to earth as it senses we are out of sync so its releasing more flares.

I told him its the hydrogen intent! lol



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Sent: November 10


Bart,

Your information including on your cat is very interesting.  I have been using distilled water that is first softened and then RO  then distilled beginning from my well.   It has a similar "drying" effect as norms wholly water though not as pronounced.

Could you please provide more information on your experiments concerning distilled water and using the magnetic stirrer and how that alkalizes the water?   The NMR and parahydrogen post if very long winded so difficult for me to get the gist of your presentation.

Thanks,

Mick

On 11/10/2018 10:37 AM, bart woodard [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:


I use a magnetic stirrer with distilled and wait for the ph to rise, the results are immediate.

https://hannainst.com/hi190m-1-magnetic-mini-stirrer.html

Mini Magnetic Stirrer (115V) - HI190M-1 - Hanna Instruments<https://hannainst.com/hi190m-1-magnetic-mini-stirrer.html>
hannainst.com
Compact. Lightweight. This mini magnetic stirrer with plastic cover can stir up to 1 liter. Big power, small footprint. Perfect for any lab!




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Sent: November 10, 2018 12:34 PM
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No!� Bart, never got into that exotic element stuff!� Just followed those that were!

On 11/10/2018 10:42 AM, bart woodard [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
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Hey Norm , your life's experiences have been fruitful!! Congrats!!

Have you ever played with table top combinations� such as thorium and fluoride or the molten salt combo?

On a hobbyist� basis approach?

Rossi likes to inject nickel/mag� powder so as I see to maintain his 1k output!.

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Sent: November 9, 2018 3:12 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery [2 Attachments]
�
�

Mick! To answer the rest of your questions:� In that ARC process you have to use carbon rods to yield the carbon monoxide & hydrogen.� (carbon source) (arc is heat source).

Holy Water was interesting part of the Elemental Replication experiment. See:�

Elemental Replication ?

�

����� Around mid September I put together an electrolysis cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold Fusion Cell with the goal of exploring the possibilities of making what is termed �Pristine Water�.�� This water which will be used by Homeopaths will have had all memory or information removed.� This is accomplished by recombining monatomic hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated in a properly designed cell.� This is the ultimate in purity since this is water with conditions at the time of original creation.� �Wholy Water�is a term coined by my dear friend and fellow researcher Joe Tyls of Vancouver, BC.�� After several weeks of successful operation producing water that had all the earmarks of a true �pristine water� a fellow researcher suggested using an alternate electrolyte.�� A solution was selected that contained 77 colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the easiest assimilated into the body.�� With the electrolyte changed the cell was put back into operation as before with a nice recombination burn and production of the sought after �pristine water�.���


The water produced in the recombination burn of the H-H-O was collected from a silica glass condenser into a silica glass beaker for sampling.� When you flipped several CCs of the water into your mouth and tried to swallow, there was nothing there.� Hmmmm!� We immediately tested the viscosity and surface tension of the water and found it to be far below human blood which means that the water diffused directly into the capillaries around the tongue therefore nothing there to swallow.� The two Doctor who were there were amazed. � To prove the theory as to information carried by water, we collected a sample of several CCs into a plastic lab cup instead of the silica glass beaker. When you flipped the several CCs into your mouth you had to immediately spit it out for it was pure taste of plastic. This water picks up signature of anything it comes into contact with.� That is why the Homeopathic Doctors wanted it for making their tinctures.��� (signature of a healing agent). ��� We had all the necessary instruments to evaluate the Pristine water. See: � https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemorheology<https://en..m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemorheology>

Hemorheology - Wikipedia<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemorheology>
en.m.wikipedia.org
Blood viscosity is a measure of the resistance of blood to flow. It can also be described as the thickness and stickiness of blood. This biophysical property makes it a critical determinant of friction against the vessel walls, the rate of venous return, the work required for the heart to pump blood, and how much oxygen is transported to tissues and organs.


�� http://www.dynalenelabs.com/testing-services/thermal-testing/viscosity-rheology/?gclid=CjwKCAiA_ZTfBRBjEiwAN6YG4SdHu5bWZ9yHLBM9VNQ0TLl4tB1hOqMvR_dOEHNbGX6k_kDHHtb5xhoCgIgQAvD_BwE �������� https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tensiometer<https://en..m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tensiometer>

� https://hydramotion.com/en/technical/units-of-viscosity

I made an offer to the Doctors present that a small unit for production of a liter/day of Pristine Water via complete unit built of quartz glass could be had for $5,000. Apparently they were not that enthused as we thought!� Oh! Well!

I built numerous Pyramids of all sizes and the Orgone Accumulators and even the Cloud� Buster.�� The pyramid experiments were very interesting for real effects were shown.�� Never tested whether water would� break after treatment by either Orgone� or pyramid.��� The complete description of the 4 inch cell is in the Elemental replication Part Two. See:


Cell Description

�

��� The electrolysis cell is designed to hold one (1) liter of electrolyte and operate at approximately 150 watt power level for the production of monatomic hydrogen and� monatomic oxygen which is burned back to pure water and collected in a glass condenser.� Cell container is schedule 40 PVC pipe section 6 inches long with bottom cap cemented on.� The top of the cell has a 4 inch female thread adapter cemented on to provide access to the interior via a male threaded plug which has the gas outlet port and two electrolyte fill ports to provide for replacement of lost electrolyte on the fly for continuos operation.� Positive and negative terminals are provided for external connection of the power supply leads to the internal anode- cathode stack.

��� The cell plate stack consist of 8 anode plates and 8 cathode plates of the following sizes constructed from 316L stainless steel of 22 ga. thickness.

4 ea.� 3� X 3� plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 2.75�plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 2.5�plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 2.25� plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 2� plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 1.75� plates, and� 2 ea. 3� X 1.5� plates.� The plates are drilled and stacked with alternating anode and cathode plates spaced 1/8� apart which makes a cylindrical shaped array which fits nicely inside of the 4� ID PVC� cell container.� Electrical leads are braided copper of #10 size which are covered by shrink tubing to cover conductive surface as they pass through the electrolyte to the cell terminal bolts.� All electrical surfaces other than the anode and cathode plates are carefully covered with PVC cement to prevent deterioration from electrolyte contact.��� Please note that if allowed to come into contact with �charged� surfaces monatomic hydrogen and monatonic oxygen will imediately form into their usual occuring state as diatomic H2 and O2 molecules.

���������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������

On 11/8/2018 4:29 PM, Mick [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
�

Hi Norm,

The catalysts are very interesting.� Iron Cobalt and Nickel all ferromagnetic but at different spins.

Correct me if I am wrong but based on reading your links a bingofuel type reactor using tungsten electrodes that hopefully would last much longer would likely produce OH rather than H and carbon monoxide, what do you think?

Also water is strange indeed in that a pyramid or orgone accumulator changes it and these simple changes could make for water that breaks up more easily.� I would love to know what results you demonstrated with the totally juvenile memory free water you put back together from the OH?�

Sorry to hear about your neck fracture, I have a similar issue and it is extremely painful and debilitating at times.

Mick

On 11/7/2018 4:15 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
�


On 11/7/2018 6:06 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:

Jakob Wall! & all other researchers on here need to read the Whole Story as to why I no longer have a research lab.� Jakob, I'm sorry I did not reveal to you the BEST in my opinion of methods of producing hydrogen gas for I felt it was a little too advanced and difficult for you to experiment with.� See: https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en .�� There is a very long story behind this US Patent and a hell of a lot of research. The quest for a very inexpensive method of splitting water has been the Holy Grail of� cheap energy.�� In addition to the research papers and links that I gave to you, here are some more to dwell on.

https://www.researchgate.net/post/At_what_temperature_water_will_decompose_to_Oxygen_and_Hydrogen<https://www..researchgate.net/post/At_what_temperature_water_will_decompose_to_Oxygen_and_Hydrogen>

https://www.quora.com/Does-water-break-down-into-oxygen-and-hydrogen-at-high-temperatures-If-so-then-at-what-temperature<https://www..quora.com/Does-water-break-down-into-oxygen-and-hydrogen-at-high-temperatures-If-so-then-at-what-temperature>

https://www.quora.com/How-much-water-can-you-split-into-hydrogen-and-oxygen-using-electrolysis-with-one-kilowatt-hour-of-electricity<https://www..quora.com/How-much-water-can-you-split-into-hydrogen-and-oxygen-using-electrolysis-with-one-kilowatt-hour-of-electricity>

http://www.redrok.com/hion96a1.htm

https://www.nature.com/articles/nplants201741<https://www..nature.com/articles/nplants201741>�� Please read carefully about the play of Nickel in this approach!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_splitting

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water-gas_shift_reaction��� I owned 77 acres of land in Eureka Springs, AR where they still had the old water gas generator and gas storage facility.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decarboxylation

https://phys.org/news/2018-02-uncovers-mechanism-water-splitting-catalyst.html

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/new-catalyst-could-split-water-cheaply/<https://www..scientificamerican.com/article/new-catalyst-could-split-water-cheaply/>

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/512996/a-cheaper-way-to-make-hydrogen-from-water/<https://www..technologyreview.com/s/512996/a-cheaper-way-to-make-hydrogen-from-water/>

"SUPER STEAM - A Tesla conference in Colorado surfaces new Super Steam Technology (SST). Leonard Dorsett and friends from Texas share strikingly similar views to Aquarian Agency Ltd. They have technology which produces steam instantly at up to 3,000F without a boiler and with 60% savings in fuel over traditional boilers. Nitrogen rich, it can put out gasoline fires and treat many waste problems. Of major importance to Aquarian, this nitrogen-rich steam will help to produce heat and Aquastone at considerable savings."

For further information on Aquarian Agency Ltd. they can be contacted at 38 Weir Rd, Wimbledon, London SW19 SUG, England or on Internet at <aquarian ocign.ape.org>. SUPER STEAM TECHNOLOGY PART 2[http://astrosa.com/n95/n059501.gif]

Leonard Dorsett (PO Box 365, Grapevine, TX 76092) demonstrated his Super Steam Technology at the 1994 International Tesla Symposium. SST is a system for producing steam at any temperature or pressure independently and instantly without the need for a conventional boiler. It can instantly produce steam of any temperature from hot water at 180F to super heated steam at over 3000F, while pressures can vary from 1PSI to 3000PSI with airflow volumes of 1CFM up to over 2000CFM. The system operates on propane, methane, petrol, kerosene, methanol, diesel, hydrogen or just about anything else that bums and converts virtually 100% of the fuel into usable energy. (Note: The person in the picture is Norman Wootan of MRA fame)

This all sounds great, but how does it work? The basis of the unit is a specially designed open throat chamber with controlled air, water and fuel interaction and a high voltage ignition resulting in a direct fire process establishing thermal zones. This creates a stoichiometric condition resulting in a full spectrum of steam product. Now comes the interesting part At the increased temperatures of steam, disassociation occurs. (Could this be a clue to running cars on water??) The hydrogen and oxygen reacts causing an exponential increase of energy resulting in super heated steam. A similar superheat process was addressed by Tesla in the October 12, 1911 publication of the "Engineering News Record".

Applications of the SST system include a much more economical way of producing electricity as no conventional boiler is needed. It will also be an ideal low cost method for heating and cooling homes and businesses. Small portable units can be developed for home use, such as steam cleaning, and insect and ant removal, without the dangers of insecticides. The system can also be used for low cost purification of polluted water or sewerage and can also convert salt water into drinking water both quickly and inexpensively. Other uses are in fire fighting applications, ice and snow removal from roads, etc. and sterilization and nurturing of soil for agriculture where contamination has occurred.

I had designed a method of making hydrogen from carbon & water vapor using the Tesla Atomic Bombardment method of high frequency inside of spherical inclosure like this experiments with the carbon button lamp globes.�� After working with Leonard Dorsett and his Super Steam Project, I chose to use the Water Shift Process instead.� A side note is needed here!� The Super Steam Process was a result of Professor Brown studying the method the German's used for torpedo propulsion from WWI.� Acetylene Gas and sea water produced an exothermic reaction generating Super Steam. Brown built several reactors and tested them in the Tulsa area to break (down hole) the parafin deposits to release crude oil.

The Chemical equation for the reaction in the US Patent: https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en

(6C + 12 H2O� = 6CO2 + 24H)

Hydrogen Reactor Development

�

Original concept design was a high voltage, high frequency resonant device that utilized carbon water reaction with the feedstock being in the form of graphite rod stock.� This unit was designed for vehicle application and had too many limitations to be used for mass hydrogen generation.� This type reactor is very effective at hydrogen production since it targets the water vapor molecule at MRI frequencies, which breaks the bonding, allowing the carbon to latch onto the oxygen atoms leaving the hydrogen free. This device was a closed system that used a simple CO2/hydrogen separation stage that enabled the hydrogen to be feed to an internal combustion engine.

�

To allow for a sustained high mass flow of hydrogen gas output, reactor design took on a radical change.� By incorporating the Ranque/Hilsch, Counter Flow Implosion Vortex Principle, and continuous high mass flow and gas separation were achieved in one stage of operation.� Feedstock for this type reactor could be any carbon-based material that could be put into a powder form.� Highest carbon content of the feedstock provides for the most efficient hydrogen production with the least undesirable output material.

�

Super high temperature operating regime was chosen to be above 2500 C for the purpose of producing atomic hydrogen in the process.� The original reactor operated at temperatures that easily gasified basic carbon into a plasma state (>10,000 F) more easily allowing the production of hydrogen from the stoichiometric feed stock ratios.


[cid:[email protected]]

I sold one of my Patents (Sonodiffuser) and paid for my 52 acres of land and built a 5200 sq. Ft. lab the do the Prototype machining and Proof of Concept testing for GAZPROM, Moscow in 2005. A $1.2 million investment and they got the rights to the process and I got the beautiful Research Lab all paid in full. I was a self employed Contractor in Dallas working with HVAC, Electrical and Electronics Maintenance so had to commute 170 miles/day and only had the week ends for my time! Having to mow grass and maintane the 52 acres took all my time and when I suffered a neck fracture in 2012, had to retire. Liquidated the entire facility and sold it off. Moved to Dallas then to South Louisiana where I now do a lot of relaxing and fishing!

Hector and ALL, I did my time in the Barrel so now I will just contribute to the dialog inorder to assist any research you may be doing within my area of experitise!���� BTW! I have been out to pasture for a long time now, so no BULL offense!� As Hector knows, "It fits"! Lol



[cid:[email protected]]

Yes! Hector, I will wear my Border Patrol Hat when you come visit from PR!� Lol




On 11/6/2018 8:52 PM, [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
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By the way ... i can hit mega millions or the power ball� . i never will not have a lab i can work in,� that is worst than death , you have no idea of the technology that had being lost by the greedy fucking bastards fucking my life , they will loose all they have� "soon" because it had being engineered that way by accumulative bad karma, i have another lab they will never reach or be able to intercept or destroy and that will decide their fate ..... they will be fucked hard !



(H)� �

---In [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>, <mkjekyll@...><mailto:mkjekyll@...> wrote :


Cmon Hector,

Bad taste!

The man had a more serious lab than anyone else here and his work speaks for itself.� Maybe he has gained the fortune he desired through R&D and now shitting in tall cotton or gone fishing reaping the rewards of retirement. Notwithstanding is still kind enough to help point us in the right directions around here.

"Funny�I can look back on a life of achievement, on challenges met, competitors bested, obstacles overcome. I�ve accomplished more than most men, and without the use of my legs. What?What makes a man, Mr. Lebowski?"

On 11/6/2018 8:04 AM, arkresearch@...<mailto:arkresearch@....> [EVGRAY] wrote:
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Dar n ! a Scientist inventor with no lab is like a breeding bull with no balls !

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---In [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>, <nwootan@...><mailto:nwootan@...> wrote :


Jacob! You asked me a question and I gave you my opinion!� I'm totally retired at 80 years old and have no lab to experiment in!� Your quote; I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. '' Slow down boy, we get paid for llooking for solutions, not to find them!''�� That certainly does not apply to me for I have shared all with the folks on this site.� I find you statement very interesting:� Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours with usual amount of gas looks to me extremely inefficient.�� ??????������� Care to share where you saw the power of a permanent magnet being used up!�� We all here on this site share what ever knowledge we have on the various subjects not seeking any monetary gain in any way! That is my approach!�� I just contribute to the dialog when I run across something interesting and think it will assist you guys!�� Norm

On 11/3/2018 11:32 PM, Jakob Wall wall_jakob@...<mailto:wall_jakob@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
�

Thanks Norman,
But i actually asced for ''most efficient way'' to split water known to you!
I realize there are a lot of different technigues to do just that.
And yes i realize you could give me a rather complex answer. But instead i hope for a
rather easy and reproductive answer since i am looking forward to solve my enerrgy
problems i just can not live with the momentary (sad and very stupid energy situation)
I am still not giving up becouse of a couple mistakes and misunderstandings....
If i would be a car dealer and you would ask me for a most efficient car available on the market
i would for sure not recommend a Prius, since there are a lot of cars with better fuel economie
even without being a hybrid and without additional cost like batterys,e-motors and a bunch added ECU's

Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours with usual amount of gas looks to me extremely
inefficient.
Also very expensive HHO-Garage products with output of 1,6 ltr/min.
Come on, 6 rusty nails and a old car batery does this job, no need to spend 1600 bucks on it.
I honestly expected solide advise or a honest NO way boy, i just talking around.

I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. '' Slow down boy, we get paid for llooking for
solutions, not to find them!'' That shoked me deeply and even if i get 150 years old, i will not forget it.
Thats true treason on mankind and deciving the people. I really hope nobody on this forum only care
about what he/she will be doing tomorrow.

Jakob

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On Sun, 10/28/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@...<mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]> wrote:

Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>, "Bert Pool" <BertPool512@...><mailto:BertPool512@...>, "Bob Paddock" <bob.paddock@...><mailto:bob.paddock@...>, "joel mcclain" <joel_76670@...><mailto:joel_76670@...>, "Jon Gentry" <jongen422@...><mailto:jongen422@...>, "Mbking42" <mbking42@...><mailto:mbking42@...>, "Toby Grotz" <wireless2@...><mailto:wireless2@...>, "Phil Rembold" <prembold@...><mailto:prembold@...>, "Angel Alvarez" <angel@...><mailto:angel@...>, "Fredric Fletcher" <ffletcher@...><mailto:ffletcher@...>
Received: Sunday, October 28, 2018, 9:44 AM


�












Jacob!� That would be a rather complex answer
but here is your
starting point!
https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct-thermomagnetic-splitting-of-water-.html���
After having been heavily involved in the COLD FUSION
Research
back in the 70s and 80s I quickly settled o0n the best
catalyst in
electrolytic cells which is pure nickel. I still have
the cell
used in the Elemental Replication experiments.


http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm����
The hidden
part of this research is the use of a nickel component
in the
combustion chamber. Bosch developed 90,000V ignition
systems to
enable water injection in gas engine which high
lighted the
Graneau HV decomposition of water via HVDC
discharge!
My magnetic Battery when run as an electrolytic cell
to produce
hydrogen does produce a huge amount of hydrogen gas as
shown by
the Dr. Ehrenhaft document.� I would tell you to
pursue the super
high Tesla magnetic flux and nickel electrodes in an
electrolytic
cell.� The major obstacle to be overcome is the rapid
collection
of ions from solution by the 1.3 Tesla flux across a
....020"
mechanical gap which quickly takes the cell into a
super-conduction mode which takes out the driving DC
power supply.
You can flush the magnetic gaps with distilled water
and the gaps
will show in the meg-ohm range then go to zero ohms
after a short
period of running, the gathered ions totally short
cell. During
the brief runs there is a huge amount of hydrogen gas
produced�
which I burned off as it was generated.� Much can be
said about
driving the cell with high frequencies as the Myers
research
showed.� Our friend up in Canada at George Wiseman,
Eagle Research
is running well ahead of the crowd on the production
of H-H-O.
Just for giggles!


16 October
1996
To: Hal
Fox,� Fusion Facts
Elemental
Replication ?
�
����� Around mid
September
I put together an
electrolysis cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold
Fusion Cell
with the goal of
exploring the possibilities of making what is
termed �Pristine
Water�.�� This water
which will be used by Homeopaths
will have had all memory or information
removed.� This is accomplished by
recombining monatomic
hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated in a
properly
designed cell.� This is
the ultimate in purity since this is
water with conditions at the time of original
creation.� �Holly Water�is a term
coined by my dear
friend and fellow researcher Joe Tyls of
Vancouver, BC.�� After several weeks of
successful operation
producing water that had all the earmarks of a
true �pristine
water� a fellow
researcher suggested using an alternate
electrolyte.�� A solution was selected
that contained 77
colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the
easiest
assimilated into the
body.�� With the
electrolyte changed the
cell was put back into operation as before with a
nice
recombination burn and
production of the sought after �pristine
water�.�������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������
�������
��� After about an
hour of
operation the cell
went absolutely �nuts� with the temperature
rapidly climbing
to boiling point
and the current out of sight.�
When the
cell was opened we found a deep red sludge deposit
which
shorted the cell
plates.�� Our first
thought was that the
electrolytic action precipitated out the colloidal
minerals
which caused the
deposit found.�� The�
electrolyte was allowed
to settle out the
precipitate.�� After�
decanting off,� the clear electrolyte
was
returned to the
cell for another run. Again the cell operated
normally for
about an hour with a
normal recombination burn and recovery of the
water being
consumed by the cell
in the splitting action.�� Again
the cell
temperature and current mirrored the first
run.�
Again the cell contained the same amount of
sludge
residue.�� This process
was repeated ten (10) times
with exactly the same results.��
All of
the sludge was carefully dried and weighed on an
electronic
scale with a five
decimal
resolution.���������������������
The cell plates and all hardware were
weighed to
determine any loss of
mass that may contribute to the mass gain observed
in the
sludge.� Five hundred
(500) ml of the original
electrolyte solution used in the cell was vacuum
distilled to
determine the
exact mass of colloidal minerals
contained.�
When all factors were considered we came
out with a
mass gain of� 48 gm
which cannot be explained by
conventional
electrolysis.����������������������

��� After talking
to Dr.
Robert Bass and Hal
Fox I learned of a patent that has been filed on
the
transmutation of elements
in the cold fusion cell which is the process that
Dr. John
Bockris has been so
active in.�� Both Dr.
Bass and Hal Fox
stated that what I was observing is not the same
as the
transmutation observed
in the cold fusion cell since I have a overall
mass gain and
not a lateral
movement of elements in the periodic table toward
lighter
elements with a
resulting heat release.� This
unusual
cell operation has caused quite a reaction in the
scientific
community. �At this
time I have built a complete new cell
with every possible factor which could possibly
explain the
mass gain
considered and documented.� The
ten (10)
consecutive runs on the new cell will be completed
soon and a
report will be
forthcoming.�� What is
interesting about
this phenomenon is that when an eleventh run was
made with the
original
electrolyte exactly the same amount of residue was
recovered
as in the previous
ten
runs.�����������������������������������������������������������������������

�
Since
the same electrolyte is reused each time with only
distilled
water being added
to replace the volume lost by the removal of the
solids and
the water recovered
by the recombination burn we are hard pressed to
explain the
observed
phenomenon.���� The
electrolyte appears
stronger in mineral concentration and shows no
sign of

depletion.��������������������������������

�� After conferring
with
Joe Tyls we arrived at
the conclusion that the 77 colloidal minerals
contained in the
electrolyte
provide the atomic templates needed for the
monatomic hydrogen
(father of all
the elements) to replicate selected elements in
this exotic
mixture.� If you
subscribe to the theories of the late
Walter Russell and his explanation of the octave
based
periodic table with
monatonic hydrogen being what he describes as
hydrons
(precursor to hydrogen)
then it is possible for the replication of
elements directly
from energy input
alone.� This is how all
matter was
created in the beginning as described by
Schappeller in �The
Physics of the
Primary State of Matter�.��� I
will keep
all informed as to our progress and findings in
this very
intriguing venture.
�
Norman
Wootan
P.O.
Box 141049
Dallas,
TX 75214
(214)
360-0865
�
�
CC:� Gene Mallove,
Infinite
Energy
CC:� Dr. John
Bockris, Texas
A/M






On 10/28/2018 1:01 AM,
Jakob Wall
wall_jakob@...<mailto:wall_jakob@...>
[EVGRAY] wrote:




�


Thanks Norman,



BTW, what is the most effective water split
device that
you ever put you hands on?

As HHO researcher for dekades you should be
able to point
us directly to the most effective known!

Please be specific about reconstruction of the
same, since
we are in public domain it will become public
knowledge
and public good. I assume you intend nothing
else,rigth ?


--------------------------------------------

On Sat, 10/27/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@...<mailto:nwootan@...>
[EVGRAY]
<[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>
wrote:



Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's
Magnetic
Battery [3 Attachments]

To: "Bert Pool" <BertPool512@...><mailto:BertPool512@...>,
"Bob
Paddock" <bob.paddock@...><mailto:bob.paddock@...>,
"joel mcclain"
<joel_76670@....><mailto:joel_76670@...>,
"Jon Gentry"
<jongen422@...><mailto:jongen422@...>,
"Lane Wootan"
<lanewootan@...><mailto:lanewootan@...>,
"Mbking42"
<mbking42@...><mailto:mbking42@....>,
"Toby Grotz"
<wireless2@...><mailto:wireless2@...>,
"Phil Rembold"
<prembold@...><mailto:prembold@....>,
"Angel Alvarez"
<angel@...><mailto:angel@...>,
"Fredric Fletcher"
<ffletcher@...><mailto:ffletcher@...>,
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

To understand the unwinding of a thread
leading

to Magnetic

Generating Hydrogen and this Magnetic Battery,
we have

to dust off

our� 9th grade Chemistry Books!

http://www.rexresearch.com/ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm�����

I guess Dr.

Ehrenhaft was the first to propose a Magnetic
Current.

(Jon

Gentry, Your liquid metal vortex helix).

https://revolution-green.com/can-electrolysis-powered-magnets/������

Ah! Ha!� more on Magnetic Currents!!!

https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446..html<https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446.html>

https://www.labmanager.com/white-papers-and-application-notes/2010/05/resistivity-conductivity-measurement-of-purified-water#.W9So9uJRc2w

https://www.askiitians.com/forums/Physical-Chemistry/19/19074/electro-che

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpotential<https://en.m..wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpotential>

https://www.quora.com/Why-is-oxygen-molecule-paramagnetic-although-it-does-not-contain-any-unpaired-electron

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251580541_The_effect_of_magnetic_force_on_hydrogen_production_efficiency_in_water_electrolysis

http://www.physicscentral.com/experiment/physicsathome/electricwhirlpool.cfm

http://www.linux-host.org/energy/bmagpump.htm

Now Jon Gentry you have your liquid metal pump
so

that you can

make the helix tube Vortex!�
Ferricpetacarbonyl or

micro fine neo

powder to provide the liquid metal for pump

circuit.

Lots of reading here!���� Please think
about the

ramifications of

a Magnetic Current as proposed by Dr.
Ehrenhaft!























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Bart,

Yes the magnet that creates the vortex, since this water absorbs
anything I am concerned about the teflon but that is really inert at low
temps so probably no big thing.

No the distiller is clean as a whistle, cleaned with everclear and lots
of RO water.   It's something odd that feels wetter and thicker than
normal water a slight oilyness has a super faint flowery smell and a
super faint salt taste, only a few drops at the bottom each time.  Will
send out for a mass spec when I collect enough.

So what is your background or normal gig?

Trichrome amounts are very strain related but also can be induced with
natural nitrogen sources, selective wavelengths of light and selective
CO2 concentrations all depending on the plants lifecycle phase.  A good
grow depends on lots of quality water and lots of quality water and dont
forget lots of quality water, lots of light and temperature stability. 
Most people who smoke prefer dirt grown over hydro because of better
taste.  For fastest production line would likely result from dwarf
genetics and aeroponics.  Mist growing beats hydroponic as the roots can
function more naturally with gas exchange.
Down here some people are making concentrates where all the terpenes
have been removed down to a clear THC oil and a few other things
fractioned with chromatography then they are replacing the terpenes
based on the end flavor intent often using terpenes from other plants
such as citrus.  Waaaay too unnatural but it has gotten this weird
already.  I have been told most of the terpenes are bioidentical with
other plants but have not researched this claim.

Also down here the Indian reservations are getting ready to begin large
scale operations that may further reduce farmer profits as they will be
licensed to sell interstate.  Likely the big tobacco companies will be
partnering with the Indians.  In the end the government only cares about
how much tax they can revenue so laws will be generated to bolster this
function above other concerns.

I hope those RCMP are not ones who arrested pot users before else they
are definitely ethically challenged and should not be involved in any
business venture as potential partners.  Successful long term businesses
rely on high ethics and no passive aggressive personalities.

I wonder who will instruct in these "Master Grower" courses, old time
hippie black market growers who probably know the most from years of
practice or a bunch of scientists who think they know the most from
memorizing books...  Good to have plant geneticists though, have any of
these specialists worked with cannabis before and if so how long?   The
biochem people will be amazing for the concentrates market.

Interesting how the Universities are already becoming the expert source
on something very few were allowed to research without a rigamarole of
gov licensing.  As usual "we take ze money Lebowski"

Speaking of money down here banking is the main problem for this
business since it's federally illegal they are not allowed normal
business loans and access to lines of credit such as bridging loans.

I think in the end the processors may do better than most except the
best farmers.


On 11/10/2018 9:49 PM, bart woodard [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> It may be possible the saponins you mentioned are some cleaning agent
> lodged in your distiller..
>
> Try boiling lines fittings etc.
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of
> Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* November 10, 2018 10:09 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery [1
> Attachment]
>  
>  
>
> Bart,
>
> Sorry meant to say saponins
>
>
> On 11/10/2018 3:44 PM, bart woodard [email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>  
>>
>> Mick,
>>
>>    I use all glass(general) in all of of my process , from start to
>> consumption.
>>
>> As far as carcinogenics go, I roll with it mostly. As the body
>> flushes it out at this size.dark field analyses.
>>
>> You can check ec
>>
>> As the parts per billion are not inductive to any negative value in
>> compilation.
>>
>> Under any lab results   the values go off the charts so I have been
>> mostly doing
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark-field_microscopy
>>
>> <https://en..wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark-field_microscopy>
>> 	
>> Dark-field microscopy - Wikipedia
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark-field_microscopy>
>> en.wikipedia.org
>> Dark-field microscopy is a very simple yet effective technique and
>> well suited for uses involving live and unstained biological samples,
>> such as a smear from a tissue culture or individual, water-borne,
>> single-celled organisms. Considering the simplicity of the setup, the
>> quality of images obtained from this technique is impressive.
>>
>> at home under my own microscope, checking positive values with
>> negative values in comparisons. been doing this for years now.
>>
>> Even with some people consider this bull , it does have a valid
>> outcome with exercise of repetitive work.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mg21897IW_4
>>
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mg21897IW_4>
>> 	
>> Live Blood Analysis Dark Field Microscopy explained
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mg21897IW_4>
>> www.youtube.com <http://www.youtube.com>
>> Dark Field Microscopy Live Blood Analysis explained like never before
>>
>> Any values that gets through are of good results as proven by
>> results.  When we refect positive intent we get the same.
>>
>> As far as deposits collected at the bottom of you vessel, it could be
>> gold or copper pending on colour .  or sludge build of a dominated
>> mineral.
>>
>> Mounatous  regions can have anything as plates push everything.  All
>> water tables run every and anywhere. It can be a good coloidal value.
>>
>> Certain plants thrive on different minerals, check the vegitation
>> results in your area.
>>
>>          sapogens ?
>>
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapogenin
>>
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapogenin>
>> 	
>> Sapogenin - Wikipedia <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapogenin>
>> en.wikipedia.org
>> Sapogenins are the aglycones, or non-saccharide, portions of the
>> family of natural products known as saponins.Sapogenins contain
>> steroid or other triterpene frameworks as their key organic feature.
>> For example, steroidal sapogenins such as tiggenin, neogitogenin, and
>> tokorogenin have been isolated from the tubers of Chlorophytum
>> arundinaceum. Some steroidal sapogenins can serve as a practical ...
>>
>> I am recently looking at starting what is called a micro growing
>> operation for cannabis here in Canada.
>>
>> The prof is here because he feels we can play with research regarding
>> the enhancement of cbd and the thc levels regarding the dna enhancements.
>>
>> So I have been looking to purchase a farm. The returns on a yearly
>> basis are impressive  1.5  4.5 mill. based on 600 kilos.
>>
>> Open for offers for any one.
>>
>> As far as Norms water device , it is a soft application making use of
>> the nonferrite mags. Good stuff!
>>
>> It creates a gentle enhancement on charges all arround for organs ,
>> skin , hair, eyes etc.
>>
>>
>> Hopefully some value for you!
>>
>> Bart
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> on behalf of
>> Mick [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
>> *Sent:* November 10, 2018 4:23 PM
>> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>> *Subject:* Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery [1
>> Attachment]
>>  
>>  
>>
>> Bart,
>>
>> Tell your friend-Even if ethically swayed by grant money, professors
>> can be human too, or maybe long ago they once were.
>>
>> Is there any procedure you utilize to determine if the ghost elements
>> are carcinogenic or not?
>>
>> What is the best material for the magnetic stirrer? 
>>
>> I think many are polyethylene coated due to it's inert nature.
>>
>> I recently acquired this water distiller. I have seen these used in
>> two places with tap water in Southern California and the crap on the
>> bottom stunk and was brown and crusty.  When I use the distiller with
>> my processed water the bottom of the unit is clean but for a few drop
>> of something I have been collecting in a glass.   We live in Oregon
>> in the mountains not near any old mines or chemical sites so the
>> water is pretty pristine except for a high concentration of minerals
>> and manganese.
>>
>> The stuff left in the distiller has a flowery smell so I think it
>> make be sapogens from plants or oils from minerals, maybe just info
>> fields trying to recombine.
>>
>>
>> On 11/10/2018 12:31 PM, bart woodard [email protected]
>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>  
>>>
>>> Hi Mick,
>>>
>>>   Well needless to say... you are charged lol!
>>>
>>> All water from any where has different values with different mineral
>>> combinations.
>>>
>>> So whether its been RO then distilled it will still continue with
>>> carrying its trace like (ghost)  elements. You are only looking at
>>> ppm or parts per million.
>>>
>>> Not parts per billion and so on. Some say parts per google!
>>>
>>> Unfortunately most will be carcinogenic due to its weight like or
>>> charges needed to extend itself  tho not all will.
>>>
>>> Even so with the stirrer the vortex will create an implosion
>>> enhancing the ghost like values remaining.
>>>
>>> The molecule will become broken down to several sizes smaller , lets
>>> say 5 times approximately or less or greater than.
>>>
>>> The four principles of play come in effect.
>>>
>>> *The Four Fundamental Forces and their strengths*
>>>
>>>   * Gravitational Force – Weakest force; but infinite range. ( Not
>>>     part of standard model)
>>>   * Weak Nuclear Force – Next weakest; but short range.
>>>   * Electromagnetic Force – Stronger, with infinite range.
>>>   * Strong Nuclear Force – Strongest; but short range.
>>>
>>> With in the molecule it has a characteristic tendency so as not to
>>> enhance its ph factor with straight on electrical simulated charges.
>>>
>>> We can not for now mimic the frequency  water likes to evolve to
>>> sustain itself at keeping it at a stabilized value with in.
>>>
>>> So circuit wise or electronically it is only a short life the ph may
>>> be increased . Tho I have not ventured out lately.
>>>
>>> Its been several years for me so forgive my sloppy answers on
>>> recalling the research done.
>>>
>>> Magnetic values are best used for the best overall out come. The
>>> molecule stabilizes itself after a would be spike ( Brownian Motion).
>>>
>>> Distilled that's  acidic at 6.2  can be elevated to 7.4 after it
>>> hits 8.5 or so give or take.
>>>
>>> It can stabilize itself to 7.4 which is where I like it to be for
>>> consumption.
>>>
>>> Tap water, well water etc will go to ammonia like, say right up to
>>> 14- 15- ph.
>>>
>>> Good for paint stripping lol.
>>>
>>> So distilled @ 0 ppm  will go to 3ppm or more as well as the ph
>>> increase.
>>>
>>> I do not want to use RO as its values can be anywhere.
>>>
>>> The clustering effect has all the values as in one make up volume.
>>>
>>> So you get it all , all charges , but mostly enhanced as our body
>>> only keeps the larger values and discharges the unwanted ones .
>>>
>>> We discharge positive and maintain negative values.
>>>
>>> In another words you get it all good with the bad. But still better
>>> than a too high ph value as this can burn your cilia and enzymes
>>>
>>> with all and good and bad acids in digestion values.
>>>
>>> Our mitochondria will only accept values approx one micron , so
>>> water at five or more times smaller hydrates our cells more easily.
>>>
>>> Thus delivering any value needed to cells requiring assistance.
>>>
>>> Hope this has some value some-wheres lol
>>>
>>> As I said its been a while.
>>>
>>> Bart
>>>
>>> PS  A prof just showed up while I am typing this laughing at me .
>>>
>>>         He says to add that the sun feels symbiotic to earth as it
>>> senses we are out of sync so its releasing more flares.
>>>
>>> I told him its the hydrogen intent! lol
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> *From:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> on behalf
>>> of Mick [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
>>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>> *Sent:* November 10 
>>>  
>>>
>>> Bart,
>>>
>>> Your information including on your cat is very interesting.  I have
>>> been using distilled water that is first softened and then RO  then
>>> distilled beginning from my well.   It has a similar "drying" effect
>>> as norms wholly water though not as pronounced.
>>>
>>> Could you please provide more information on your experiments
>>> concerning distilled water and using the magnetic stirrer and how
>>> that alkalizes the water?   The NMR and parahydrogen post if very
>>> long winded so difficult for me to get the gist of your presentation.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Mick
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/10/2018 10:37 AM, bart woodard [email protected]
>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> I use a magnetic stirrer with distilled and wait for the ph to
>>>> rise, the results are immediate.
>>>>
>>>> https://hannainst.com/hi190m-1-magnetic-mini-stirrer.html
>>>>
>>>> Mini Magnetic Stirrer (115V) - HI190M-1 - Hanna Instruments
>>>> <https://hannainst.com/hi190m-1-magnetic-mini-stirrer.html>
>>>> hannainst.com
>>>> Compact. Lightweight. This mini magnetic stirrer with plastic cover
>>>> can stir up to 1 liter. Big power, small footprint. Perfect for any
>>>> lab!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> *From:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> on behalf
>>>> of Norman Wootan [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
>>>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>> *Sent:* November 10, 2018 12:34 PM
>>>> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery [2
>>>> Attachments]
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> No!� Bart, never got into that exotic element stuff!� Just
>>>> followed those that were!
>>>>
>>>> On 11/10/2018 10:42 AM, bart woodard [email protected]
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>> �
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey Norm , your life's experiences have been fruitful!! Congrats!!
>>>>>
>>>>> Have you ever played with table top combinations� such as
>>>>> thorium and fluoride or the molten salt combo?
>>>>>
>>>>> On a hobbyist� basis approach?
>>>>>
>>>>> Rossi likes to inject nickel/mag� powder so as I see to maintain
>>>>> his 1k output!.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> *From:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> on behalf
>>>>> of Norman Wootan [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
>>>>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>> *Sent:* November 9, 2018 3:12 PM
>>>>> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery [2
>>>>> Attachments]
>>>>> �
>>>>> �
>>>>>
>>>>> Mick! To answer the rest of your questions:� In that ARC process
>>>>> you have to use carbon rods to yield the carbon monoxide &
>>>>> hydrogen.� (carbon source) (arc is heat source).
>>>>>
>>>>> Holy Water was interesting part of the Elemental Replication
>>>>> experiment. See:�
>>>>>
>>>>> *Elemental Replication ?*
>>>>>
>>>>> *�*
>>>>>
>>>>> ����� Around mid September I put together an
>>>>> electrolysis cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold Fusion Cell
>>>>> with the goal of exploring the possibilities of making what is
>>>>> termed �Pristine Water�.�� This water which will be used
>>>>> by Homeopaths will have had all memory or information removed.�
>>>>> This is accomplished by recombining monatomic hydrogen and
>>>>> monatomic oxygen as generated in a properly designed cell.� This
>>>>> is the ultimate in purity since this is water with conditions at
>>>>> the time of original creation.� �Wholy Water�is a term
>>>>> coined by my dear friend and fellow researcher Joe Tyls of
>>>>> Vancouver, BC.�� After several weeks of successful operation
>>>>> producing water that had all the earmarks of a true �pristine
>>>>> water� a fellow researcher suggested using an alternate
>>>>> electrolyte.�� A solution was selected that contained 77
>>>>> colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the easiest
>>>>> assimilated into the body.�� With the electrolyte changed the
>>>>> cell was put back into operation as before with a nice
>>>>> recombination burn and production of the sought after �pristine
>>>>> water�.���
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The water produced in the recombination burn of the H-H-O was
>>>>> collected from a silica glass condenser into a silica glass beaker
>>>>> for sampling.� When you flipped several CCs of the water into
>>>>> your mouth and tried to swallow, there was nothing there.�
>>>>> Hmmmm!� We immediately tested the viscosity and surface tension
>>>>> of the water and found it to be far below human blood which means
>>>>> that the water diffused directly into the capillaries around the
>>>>> tongue therefore nothing there to swallow.� The two Doctor who
>>>>> were there were amazed. � To prove the theory as to information
>>>>> carried by water, we collected a sample of several CCs into a
>>>>> plastic lab cup instead of the silica glass beaker. When you
>>>>> flipped the several CCs into your mouth you had to immediately
>>>>> spit it out for it was pure taste of plastic. This water picks up
>>>>> signature of anything it comes into contact with.� That is why
>>>>> the Homeopathic Doctors wanted it for making their
>>>>> tinctures.��� (signature of a healing agent). ��� We
>>>>> had all the necessary instruments to evaluate the Pristine water.
>>>>> See: � https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemorheology
>>>>> <https://en..m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemorheology>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hemorheology - Wikipedia
>>>>> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemorheology>
>>>>> en.m.wikipedia.org
>>>>> Blood viscosity is a measure of the resistance of blood to flow.
>>>>> It can also be described as the thickness and stickiness of blood.
>>>>> This biophysical property makes it a critical determinant of
>>>>> friction against the vessel walls, the rate of venous return, the
>>>>> work required for the heart to pump blood, and how much oxygen is
>>>>> transported to tissues and organs.
>>>>>
>>>>> ��
>>>>> http://www.dynalenelabs.com/testing-services/thermal-testing/viscosity-rheology/?gclid=CjwKCAiA_ZTfBRBjEiwAN6YG4SdHu5bWZ9yHLBM9VNQ0TLl4tB1hOqMvR_dOEHNbGX6k_kDHHtb5xhoCgIgQAvD_BwE
>>>>> ��������
>>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tensiometer
>>>>> <https://en..m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tensiometer>
>>>>>
>>>>> � https://hydramotion.com/en/technical/units-of-viscosity
>>>>>
>>>>> I made an offer to the Doctors present that a small unit for
>>>>> production of a liter/day of Pristine Water via complete unit
>>>>> built of quartz glass could be had for $5,000. Apparently they
>>>>> were not that enthused as we thought!� Oh! Well!
>>>>>
>>>>> I built numerous Pyramids of all sizes and the Orgone Accumulators
>>>>> and even the Cloud� Buster.�� The pyramid experiments were
>>>>> very interesting for real effects were shown.�� Never tested
>>>>> whether water would� break after treatment by either Orgone�
>>>>> or pyramid.��� The complete description of the 4 inch cell
>>>>> is in the Elemental replication Part Two. See:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Cell Description
>>>>>
>>>>> �
>>>>>
>>>>> ��� The electrolysis cell is designed to hold one (1) liter
>>>>> of electrolyte and operate at approximately 150 watt power level
>>>>> for the production of monatomic hydrogen and� monatomic oxygen
>>>>> which is burned back to pure water and collected in a glass
>>>>> condenser.� Cell container is schedule 40 PVC pipe section 6
>>>>> inches long with bottom cap cemented on.� The top of the cell
>>>>> has a 4 inch female thread adapter cemented on to provide access
>>>>> to the interior via a male threaded plug which has the gas outlet
>>>>> port and two electrolyte fill ports to provide for replacement of
>>>>> lost electrolyte on the fly for continuos operation.� Positive
>>>>> and negative terminals are provided for external connection of the
>>>>> power supply leads to the internal anode- cathode stack.
>>>>>
>>>>> ��� The cell plate stack consist of 8 anode plates and 8
>>>>> cathode plates of the following sizes constructed from 316L
>>>>> stainless steel of 22 ga. thickness.
>>>>>
>>>>> 4 ea.� 3� X 3� plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 2.75�plates,� 2
>>>>> ea. 3� X 2.5�plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 2.25� plates,� 2 ea.
>>>>> 3� X 2� plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 1.75� plates, and� 2 ea.
>>>>> 3� X 1.5� plates.� The plates are drilled and stacked with
>>>>> alternating anode and cathode plates spaced 1/8� apart which
>>>>> makes a cylindrical shaped array which fits nicely inside of the
>>>>> 4� ID PVC� cell container.� Electrical leads are braided
>>>>> copper of #10 size which are covered by shrink tubing to cover
>>>>> conductive surface as they pass through the electrolyte to the
>>>>> cell terminal bolts.� All electrical surfaces other than the
>>>>> anode and cathode plates are carefully covered with PVC cement to
>>>>> prevent deterioration from electrolyte contact.��� Please
>>>>> note that if allowed to come into contact with �charged�
>>>>> surfaces monatomic hydrogen and monatonic oxygen will imediately
>>>>> form into their usual occuring state as diatomic H2 and O2 molecules.
>>>>>
>>>>> ���������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/8/2018 4:29 PM, Mick [email protected]
>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>> �
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Norm,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The catalysts are very interesting.� Iron Cobalt and Nickel all
>>>>>> ferromagnetic but at different spins.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Correct me if I am wrong but based on reading your links a
>>>>>> bingofuel type reactor using tungsten electrodes that hopefully
>>>>>> would last much longer would likely produce OH rather than H and
>>>>>> carbon monoxide, what do you think?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also water is strange indeed in that a pyramid or orgone
>>>>>> accumulator changes it and these simple changes could make for
>>>>>> water that breaks up more easily.� I would love to know what
>>>>>> results you demonstrated with the totally juvenile memory free
>>>>>> water you put back together from the OH?�
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry to hear about your neck fracture, I have a similar issue
>>>>>> and it is extremely painful and debilitating at times.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mick
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/7/2018 4:15 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected]
>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>> �
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11/7/2018 6:06 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jakob Wall! & all other researchers on here need to read the
>>>>>>>> Whole Story as to why I no longer have a research lab.�
>>>>>>>> Jakob, I'm sorry I did not reveal to you the BEST in my opinion
>>>>>>>> of methods of producing hydrogen gas for I felt it was a little
>>>>>>>> too advanced and difficult for you to experiment with.� See:
>>>>>>>> https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en .�� There
>>>>>>>> is a very long story behind this US Patent and a hell of a lot
>>>>>>>> of research. The quest for a very inexpensive method of
>>>>>>>> splitting water has been the Holy Grail of� cheap
>>>>>>>> energy.�� In addition to the research papers and links that
>>>>>>>> I gave to you, here are some more to dwell on.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.researchgate.net/post/At_what_temperature_water_will_decompose_to_Oxygen_and_Hydrogen
>>>>>>>> <https://www..researchgate.net/post/At_what_temperature_water_will_decompose_to_Oxygen_and_Hydrogen>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.quora.com/Does-water-break-down-into-oxygen-and-hydrogen-at-high-temperatures-If-so-then-at-what-temperature
>>>>>>>> <https://www..quora.com/Does-water-break-down-into-oxygen-and-hydrogen-at-high-temperatures-If-so-then-at-what-temperature>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.quora.com/How-much-water-can-you-split-into-hydrogen-and-oxygen-using-electrolysis-with-one-kilowatt-hour-of-electricity
>>>>>>>> <https://www..quora.com/How-much-water-can-you-split-into-hydrogen-and-oxygen-using-electrolysis-with-one-kilowatt-hour-of-electricity>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.redrok.com/hion96a1.htm
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.nature.com/articles/nplants201741
>>>>>>>> <https://www..nature.com/articles/nplants201741>�� Please
>>>>>>>> read carefully about the play of Nickel in this approach!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_splitting
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water-gas_shift_reaction���
>>>>>>>> I owned 77 acres of land in Eureka Springs, AR where they still
>>>>>>>> had the old water gas generator and gas storage facility.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decarboxylation
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://phys.org/news/2018-02-uncovers-mechanism-water-splitting-catalyst.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/new-catalyst-could-split-water-cheaply/
>>>>>>>> <https://www..scientificamerican.com/article/new-catalyst-could-split-water-cheaply/>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.technologyreview.com/s/512996/a-cheaper-way-to-make-hydrogen-from-water/
>>>>>>>> <https://www..technologyreview.com/s/512996/a-cheaper-way-to-make-hydrogen-from-water/>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "*SUPER STEAM* - A Tesla conference in Colorado surfaces new
>>>>>>>> Super Steam Technology (SST). Leonard Dorsett and friends from
>>>>>>>> Texas share strikingly similar views to Aquarian Agency Ltd.
>>>>>>>> They have technology which produces steam instantly at up to
>>>>>>>> 3,000F without a boiler and with 60% savings in fuel over
>>>>>>>> traditional boilers. Nitrogen rich, it can put out gasoline
>>>>>>>> fires and treat many waste problems. Of major importance to
>>>>>>>> Aquarian, this nitrogen-rich steam will help to produce heat
>>>>>>>> and Aquastone at considerable savings."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For further information on Aquarian Agency Ltd. they can be
>>>>>>>> contacted at 38 Weir Rd, Wimbledon, London SW19 SUG, England or
>>>>>>>> on Internet at <aquarian ocign.ape.org>. *_SUPER STEAM
>>>>>>>> TECHNOLOGY PART 2_*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Leonard Dorsett (PO Box 365, Grapevine, TX 76092) demonstrated
>>>>>>>> his Super Steam Technology at the 1994 International Tesla
>>>>>>>> Symposium. SST is a system for producing steam at any
>>>>>>>> temperature or pressure independently and instantly without the
>>>>>>>> need for a conventional boiler. It can instantly produce steam
>>>>>>>> of any temperature from hot water at 180F to super heated steam
>>>>>>>> at over 3000F, while pressures can vary from 1PSI to 3000PSI
>>>>>>>> with airflow volumes of 1CFM up to over 2000CFM. The system
>>>>>>>> operates on propane, methane, petrol, kerosene, methanol,
>>>>>>>> diesel, hydrogen or just about anything else that bums and
>>>>>>>> converts virtually 100% of the fuel into usable energy. (Note:
>>>>>>>> The person in the picture is Norman Wootan of MRA fame)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This all sounds great, but how does it work? The basis of the
>>>>>>>> unit is a specially designed open throat chamber with
>>>>>>>> controlled air, water and fuel interaction and a high voltage
>>>>>>>> ignition resulting in a direct fire process establishing
>>>>>>>> thermal zones. This creates a stoichiometric condition
>>>>>>>> resulting in a full spectrum of steam product. Now comes the
>>>>>>>> interesting part At the increased temperatures of steam,
>>>>>>>> disassociation occurs. (Could this be a clue to running cars on
>>>>>>>> water??) The hydrogen and oxygen reacts causing an exponential
>>>>>>>> increase of energy resulting in super heated steam. A similar
>>>>>>>> superheat process was addressed by Tesla in the October 12,
>>>>>>>> 1911 publication of the "Engineering News Record".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Applications of the SST system include a much more economical
>>>>>>>> way of producing electricity as no conventional boiler is
>>>>>>>> needed. It will also be an ideal low cost method for heating
>>>>>>>> and cooling homes and businesses. Small portable units can be
>>>>>>>> developed for home use, such as steam cleaning, and insect and
>>>>>>>> ant removal, without the dangers of insecticides. The system
>>>>>>>> can also be used for low cost purification of polluted water or
>>>>>>>> sewerage and can also convert salt water into drinking water
>>>>>>>> both quickly and inexpensively. Other uses are in fire fighting
>>>>>>>> applications, ice and snow removal from roads, etc. and
>>>>>>>> sterilization and nurturing of soil for agriculture where
>>>>>>>> contamination has occurred.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I had designed a method of making hydrogen from carbon & water
>>>>>>>> vapor using the Tesla Atomic Bombardment method of high
>>>>>>>> frequency inside of spherical inclosure like this experiments
>>>>>>>> with the carbon button lamp globes.�� After working with
>>>>>>>> Leonard Dorsett and his Super Steam Project, I chose to use the
>>>>>>>> Water Shift Process instead.� A side note is needed here!�
>>>>>>>> The Super Steam Process was a result of Professor Brown
>>>>>>>> studying the method the German's used for torpedo propulsion
>>>>>>>> from WWI.� Acetylene Gas and sea water produced an exothermic
>>>>>>>> reaction generating Super Steam. Brown built several reactors
>>>>>>>> and tested them in the Tulsa area to break (down hole) the
>>>>>>>> parafin deposits to release crude oil.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The Chemical equation for the reaction in the US Patent:
>>>>>>>> https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *(6C + 12 H2O� = 6CO2 + 24H) *
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hydrogen Reactor Development
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *�*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Original concept design was a high voltage, high frequency
>>>>>>>> resonant device that utilized carbon water reaction with the
>>>>>>>> feedstock being in the form of graphite rod stock.� This unit
>>>>>>>> was designed for vehicle application and had too many
>>>>>>>> limitations to be used for mass hydrogen generation.� This
>>>>>>>> type reactor is very effective at hydrogen production since it
>>>>>>>> targets the water vapor molecule at MRI frequencies, which
>>>>>>>> breaks the bonding, allowing the carbon to latch onto the
>>>>>>>> oxygen atoms leaving the hydrogen free. This device was a
>>>>>>>> closed system that used a simple CO2/hydrogen separation stage
>>>>>>>> that enabled the hydrogen to be feed to an internal combustion
>>>>>>>> engine.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *�*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *To allow for a sustained high mass flow of hydrogen gas
>>>>>>>> output, reactor design took on a radical change.� By
>>>>>>>> incorporating the Ranque/Hilsch, Counter Flow Implosion Vortex
>>>>>>>> Principle, and continuous high mass flow and gas separation
>>>>>>>> were achieved in one stage of operation.� Feedstock for this
>>>>>>>> type reactor could be any carbon-based material that could be
>>>>>>>> put into a powder form.� Highest carbon content of the
>>>>>>>> feedstock provides for the most efficient hydrogen production
>>>>>>>> with the least undesirable output material.*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *�*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Super high temperature operating regime was chosen to be above
>>>>>>>> 2500 C for the purpose of producing atomic hydrogen in the
>>>>>>>> process.� The original reactor operated at temperatures that
>>>>>>>> easily gasified basic carbon into a plasma state (>10,000 F)
>>>>>>>> more easily allowing the production of hydrogen from the
>>>>>>>> stoichiometric feed stock ratios.*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> **
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I sold one of my Patents (Sonodiffuser) and paid for my 52
>>>>>>>> acres of land and built a 5200 sq. Ft. lab the do the Prototype
>>>>>>>> machining and Proof of Concept testing for GAZPROM, Moscow in
>>>>>>>> 2005. A $1.2 million investment and they got the rights to the
>>>>>>>> process and I got the beautiful Research Lab all paid in full.
>>>>>>>> I was a self employed Contractor in Dallas working with HVAC,
>>>>>>>> Electrical and Electronics Maintenance so had to commute 170
>>>>>>>> miles/day and only had the week ends for my time! Having to mow
>>>>>>>> grass and maintane the 52 acres took all my time and when I
>>>>>>>> suffered a neck fracture in 2012, had to retire. Liquidated the
>>>>>>>> entire facility and sold it off. Moved to Dallas then to South
>>>>>>>> Louisiana where I now do a lot of relaxing and fishing!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hector and ALL, I did my time in the Barrel so now I will just
>>>>>>>> contribute to the dialog inorder to assist any research you may
>>>>>>>> be doing within my area of experitise!���� BTW! I have
>>>>>>>> been out to pasture for a long time now, so no BULL offense!�
>>>>>>>> As Hector knows, "It fits"! Lol
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes! Hector, I will wear my Border Patrol Hat when you come
>>>>>>>> visit from PR!� Lol
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 11/6/2018 8:52 PM, [email protected]
>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>> �
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> By the way ... i can hit mega millions or the power ball� .
>>>>>>>>> i never will not have a lab i can work in,� that is worst
>>>>>>>>> than death , you have no idea of the technology that had being
>>>>>>>>> lost by the greedy fucking bastards fucking my life , they
>>>>>>>>> will loose all they have� "soon" because it had being
>>>>>>>>> engineered that way by accumulative bad karma, i have another
>>>>>>>>> lab they will never reach or be able to intercept or destroy
>>>>>>>>> and that will decide their fate ..... they will be fucked hard !
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> (H)� �
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ---In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>,
>>>>>>>>> <mkjekyll@...> <mailto:mkjekyll@...> wrote :
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cmon Hector,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Bad taste!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The man had a more serious lab than anyone else here and his
>>>>>>>>> work speaks for itself.� Maybe he has gained the fortune he
>>>>>>>>> desired through R&D and now shitting in tall cotton or gone
>>>>>>>>> fishing reaping the rewards of retirement. Notwithstanding is
>>>>>>>>> still kind enough to help point us in the right directions
>>>>>>>>> around here.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "*Funny�I can look back on a life of achievement, on
>>>>>>>>> challenges met, competitors bested, obstacles overcome. I�ve
>>>>>>>>> accomplished more than most men, and without the use of my
>>>>>>>>> legs. What?What makes a man, Mr. Lebowski?"*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 11/6/2018 8:04 AM, arkresearch@...
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:arkresearch@....> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>     �
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>     Dar n ! a Scientist inventor with no lab is like a
>>>>>>>>>>     breeding bull with no balls !
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>     Balls Cow GIF - Balls Cow WingDangDoodle GIFs
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>     ---In [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]>, <nwootan@...>
>>>>>>>>>>     <mailto:nwootan@...> wrote :
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>     Jacob! You asked me a question and I gave you my
>>>>>>>>>>     opinion!� I'm totally retired at 80 years old and have
>>>>>>>>>>     no lab to experiment in!� Your quote; I heard once a
>>>>>>>>>>     phrase from a researcher who said. '' Slow down boy, we
>>>>>>>>>>     get paid for llooking for solutions, not to find
>>>>>>>>>>     them!''�� That certainly does not apply to me for I
>>>>>>>>>>     have shared all with the folks on this site.� I find
>>>>>>>>>>     you statement very interesting:� Technics that use up
>>>>>>>>>>     10 % of a magnet in 24 hours with usual amount of gas
>>>>>>>>>>     looks to me extremely inefficient.��
>>>>>>>>>>     ??????������� Care to share where you saw
>>>>>>>>>>     the power of a permanent magnet being used up!�� We
>>>>>>>>>>     all here on this site share what ever knowledge we have
>>>>>>>>>>     on the various subjects not seeking any monetary gain in
>>>>>>>>>>     any way! That is my approach!�� I just contribute to
>>>>>>>>>>     the dialog when I run across something interesting and
>>>>>>>>>>     think it will assist you guys!�� Norm
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>     On 11/3/2018 11:32 PM, Jakob Wall wall_jakob@...
>>>>>>>>>>     <mailto:wall_jakob@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         �
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         Thanks Norman,
>>>>>>>>>>>         But i actually asced for ''most efficient way'' to
>>>>>>>>>>>         split water known to you!
>>>>>>>>>>>         I realize there are a lot of different technigues to
>>>>>>>>>>>         do just that.
>>>>>>>>>>>         And yes i realize you could give me a rather complex
>>>>>>>>>>>         answer. But instead i hope for a
>>>>>>>>>>>         rather easy and reproductive answer since i am
>>>>>>>>>>>         looking forward to solve my enerrgy
>>>>>>>>>>>         problems i just can not live with the momentary (sad
>>>>>>>>>>>         and very stupid energy situation)
>>>>>>>>>>>         I am still not giving up becouse of a couple
>>>>>>>>>>>         mistakes and misunderstandings.....
>>>>>>>>>>>         If i would be a car dealer and you would ask me for
>>>>>>>>>>>         a most efficient car available on the market
>>>>>>>>>>>         i would for sure not recommend a Prius, since there
>>>>>>>>>>>         are a lot of cars with better fuel economie
>>>>>>>>>>>         even without being a hybrid and without additional
>>>>>>>>>>>         cost like batterys,e-motors and a bunch added ECU's
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours
>>>>>>>>>>>         with usual amount of gas looks to me extremely
>>>>>>>>>>>         inefficient.
>>>>>>>>>>>         Also very expensive HHO-Garage products with output
>>>>>>>>>>>         of 1,6 ltr/min.
>>>>>>>>>>>         Come on, 6 rusty nails and a old car batery does
>>>>>>>>>>>         this job, no need to spend 1600 bucks on it.
>>>>>>>>>>>         I honestly expected solide advise or a honest NO way
>>>>>>>>>>>         boy, i just talking around.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. ''
>>>>>>>>>>>         Slow down boy, we get paid for llooking for
>>>>>>>>>>>         solutions, not to find them!'' That shoked me deeply
>>>>>>>>>>>         and even if i get 150 years old, i will not forget it.
>>>>>>>>>>>         Thats true treason on mankind and deciving the
>>>>>>>>>>>         people. I really hope nobody on this forum only care
>>>>>>>>>>>         about what he/she will be doing tomorrow.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         Jakob
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         --------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>         On Sun, 10/28/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY]
>>>>>>>>>>>         <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>         Battery
>>>>>>>>>>>         To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]>, "Bert Pool"
>>>>>>>>>>>         <BertPool512@...> <mailto:BertPool512@...>, "Bob
>>>>>>>>>>>         Paddock" <bob.paddock@...> <mailto:bob.paddock@...>,
>>>>>>>>>>>         "joel mcclain" <joel_76670@...>
>>>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:joel_76670@...>, "Jon Gentry"
>>>>>>>>>>>         <jongen422@...> <mailto:jongen422@...>, "Mbking42"
>>>>>>>>>>>         <mbking42@...> <mailto:mbking42@...>, "Toby Grotz"
>>>>>>>>>>>         <wireless2@...> <mailto:wireless2@...>, "Phil
>>>>>>>>>>>         Rembold" <prembold@...> <mailto:prembold@...>,
>>>>>>>>>>>         "Angel Alvarez" <angel@...> <mailto:angel@...>,
>>>>>>>>>>>         "Fredric Fletcher" <ffletcher@...>
>>>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:ffletcher@...>
>>>>>>>>>>>         Received: Sunday, October 28, 2018, 9:44 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         �
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         Jacob!� That would be a rather complex answer
>>>>>>>>>>>         but here is your
>>>>>>>>>>>         starting point!
>>>>>>>>>>>         https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct-thermomagnetic-splitting-of-water-.html���
>>>>>>>>>>>         After having been heavily involved in the COLD FUSION
>>>>>>>>>>>         Research
>>>>>>>>>>>         back in the 70s and 80s I quickly settled o0n the best
>>>>>>>>>>>         catalyst in
>>>>>>>>>>>         electrolytic cells which is pure nickel. I still have
>>>>>>>>>>>         the cell
>>>>>>>>>>>         used in the Elemental Replication experiments.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm����
>>>>>>>>>>>         The hidden
>>>>>>>>>>>         part of this research is the use of a nickel component
>>>>>>>>>>>         in the
>>>>>>>>>>>         combustion chamber. Bosch developed 90,000V ignition
>>>>>>>>>>>         systems to
>>>>>>>>>>>         enable water injection in gas engine which high
>>>>>>>>>>>         lighted the
>>>>>>>>>>>         Graneau HV decomposition of water via HVDC
>>>>>>>>>>>         discharge!
>>>>>>>>>>>         My magnetic Battery when run as an electrolytic cell
>>>>>>>>>>>         to produce
>>>>>>>>>>>         hydrogen does produce a huge amount of hydrogen gas as
>>>>>>>>>>>         shown by
>>>>>>>>>>>         the Dr. Ehrenhaft document.� I would tell you to
>>>>>>>>>>>         pursue the super
>>>>>>>>>>>         high Tesla magnetic flux and nickel electrodes in an
>>>>>>>>>>>         electrolytic
>>>>>>>>>>>         cell.� The major obstacle to be overcome is the rapid
>>>>>>>>>>>         collection
>>>>>>>>>>>         of ions from solution by the 1.3 Tesla flux across a
>>>>>>>>>>>         .....020"
>>>>>>>>>>>         mechanical gap which quickly takes the cell into a
>>>>>>>>>>>         super-conduction mode which takes out the driving DC
>>>>>>>>>>>         power supply.
>>>>>>>>>>>         You can flush the magnetic gaps with distilled water
>>>>>>>>>>>         and the gaps
>>>>>>>>>>>         will show in the meg-ohm range then go to zero ohms
>>>>>>>>>>>         after a short
>>>>>>>>>>>         period of running, the gathered ions totally short
>>>>>>>>>>>         cell. During
>>>>>>>>>>>         the brief runs there is a huge amount of hydrogen gas
>>>>>>>>>>>         produced�
>>>>>>>>>>>         which I burned off as it was generated.� Much can be
>>>>>>>>>>>         said about
>>>>>>>>>>>         driving the cell with high frequencies as the Myers
>>>>>>>>>>>         research
>>>>>>>>>>>         showed.� Our friend up in Canada at George Wiseman,
>>>>>>>>>>>         Eagle Research
>>>>>>>>>>>         is running well ahead of the crowd on the production
>>>>>>>>>>>         of H-H-O.
>>>>>>>>>>>         Just for giggles!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         16 October
>>>>>>>>>>>         1996
>>>>>>>>>>>         To: Hal
>>>>>>>>>>>         Fox,� Fusion Facts
>>>>>>>>>>>         Elemental
>>>>>>>>>>>         Replication ?
>>>>>>>>>>>         �
>>>>>>>>>>>         ����� Around mid
>>>>>>>>>>>         September
>>>>>>>>>>>         I put together an
>>>>>>>>>>>         electrolysis cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold
>>>>>>>>>>>         Fusion Cell
>>>>>>>>>>>         with the goal of
>>>>>>>>>>>         exploring the possibilities of making what is
>>>>>>>>>>>         termed �Pristine
>>>>>>>>>>>         Water�.�� This water
>>>>>>>>>>>         which will be used by Homeopaths
>>>>>>>>>>>         will have had all memory or information
>>>>>>>>>>>         removed.� This is accomplished by
>>>>>>>>>>>         recombining monatomic
>>>>>>>>>>>         hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated in a
>>>>>>>>>>>         properly
>>>>>>>>>>>         designed cell.� This is
>>>>>>>>>>>         the ultimate in purity since this is
>>>>>>>>>>>         water with conditions at the time of original
>>>>>>>>>>>         creation.� �Holly Water�is a term
>>>>>>>>>>>         coined by my dear
>>>>>>>>>>>         friend and fellow researcher Joe Tyls of
>>>>>>>>>>>         Vancouver, BC.�� After several weeks of
>>>>>>>>>>>         successful operation
>>>>>>>>>>>         producing water that had all the earmarks of a
>>>>>>>>>>>         true �pristine
>>>>>>>>>>>         water� a fellow
>>>>>>>>>>>         researcher suggested using an alternate
>>>>>>>>>>>         electrolyte.�� A solution was selected
>>>>>>>>>>>         that contained 77
>>>>>>>>>>>         colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the
>>>>>>>>>>>         easiest
>>>>>>>>>>>         assimilated into the
>>>>>>>>>>>         body.�� With the
>>>>>>>>>>>         electrolyte changed the
>>>>>>>>>>>         cell was put back into operation as before with a
>>>>>>>>>>>         nice
>>>>>>>>>>>         recombination burn and
>>>>>>>>>>>         production of the sought after �pristine
>>>>>>>>>>>         water�.�������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������
>>>>>>>>>>>         �������
>>>>>>>>>>>         ��� After about an
>>>>>>>>>>>         hour of
>>>>>>>>>>>         operation the cell
>>>>>>>>>>>         went absolutely �nuts� with the temperature
>>>>>>>>>>>         rapidly climbing
>>>>>>>>>>>         to boiling point
>>>>>>>>>>>         and the current out of sight.�
>>>>>>>>>>>         When the
>>>>>>>>>>>         cell was opened we found a deep red sludge deposit
>>>>>>>>>>>         which
>>>>>>>>>>>         shorted the cell
>>>>>>>>>>>         plates.�� Our first
>>>>>>>>>>>         thought was that the
>>>>>>>>>>>         electrolytic action precipitated out the colloidal
>>>>>>>>>>>         minerals
>>>>>>>>>>>         which caused the
>>>>>>>>>>>         deposit found.�� The�
>>>>>>>>>>>         electrolyte was allowed
>>>>>>>>>>>         to settle out the
>>>>>>>>>>>         precipitate.�� After�
>>>>>>>>>>>         decanting off,� the clear electrolyte
>>>>>>>>>>>         was
>>>>>>>>>>>         returned to the
>>>>>>>>>>>         cell for another run. Again the cell operated
>>>>>>>>>>>         normally for
>>>>>>>>>>>         about an hour with a
>>>>>>>>>>>         normal recombination burn and recovery of the
>>>>>>>>>>>         water being
>>>>>>>>>>>         consumed by the cell
>>>>>>>>>>>         in the splitting action.�� Again
>>>>>>>>>>>         the cell
>>>>>>>>>>>         temperature and current mirrored the first
>>>>>>>>>>>         run.�
>>>>>>>>>>>         Again the cell contained the same amount of
>>>>>>>>>>>         sludge
>>>>>>>>>>>         residue.�� This process
>>>>>>>>>>>         was repeated ten (10) times
>>>>>>>>>>>         with exactly the same results.��
>>>>>>>>>>>         All of
>>>>>>>>>>>         the sludge was carefully dried and weighed on an
>>>>>>>>>>>         electronic
>>>>>>>>>>>         scale with a five
>>>>>>>>>>>         decimal
>>>>>>>>>>>         resolution.���������������������
>>>>>>>>>>>         The cell plates and all hardware were
>>>>>>>>>>>         weighed to
>>>>>>>>>>>         determine any loss of
>>>>>>>>>>>         mass that may contribute to the mass gain observed
>>>>>>>>>>>         in the
>>>>>>>>>>>         sludge.� Five hundred
>>>>>>>>>>>         (500) ml of the original
>>>>>>>>>>>         electrolyte solution used in the cell was vacuum
>>>>>>>>>>>         distilled to
>>>>>>>>>>>         determine the
>>>>>>>>>>>         exact mass of colloidal minerals
>>>>>>>>>>>         contained.�
>>>>>>>>>>>         When all factors were considered we came
>>>>>>>>>>>         out with a
>>>>>>>>>>>         mass gain of� 48 gm
>>>>>>>>>>>         which cannot be explained by
>>>>>>>>>>>         conventional
>>>>>>>>>>>         electrolysis.����������������������
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         ��� After talking
>>>>>>>>>>>         to Dr.
>>>>>>>>>>>         Robert Bass and Hal
>>>>>>>>>>>         Fox I learned of a patent that has been filed on
>>>>>>>>>>>         the
>>>>>>>>>>>         transmutation of elements
>>>>>>>>>>>         in the cold fusion cell which is the process that
>>>>>>>>>>>         Dr. John
>>>>>>>>>>>         Bockris has been so
>>>>>>>>>>>         active in.�� Both Dr.
>>>>>>>>>>>         Bass and Hal Fox
>>>>>>>>>>>         stated that what I was observing is not the same
>>>>>>>>>>>         as the
>>>>>>>>>>>         transmutation observed
>>>>>>>>>>>         in the cold fusion cell since I have a overall
>>>>>>>>>>>         mass gain and
>>>>>>>>>>>         not a lateral
>>>>>>>>>>>         movement of elements in the periodic table toward
>>>>>>>>>>>         lighter
>>>>>>>>>>>         elements with a
>>>>>>>>>>>         resulting heat release.� This
>>>>>>>>>>>         unusual
>>>>>>>>>>>         cell operation has caused quite a reaction in the
>>>>>>>>>>>         scientific
>>>>>>>>>>>         community. �At this
>>>>>>>>>>>         time I have built a complete new cell
>>>>>>>>>>>         with every possible factor which could possibly
>>>>>>>>>>>         explain the
>>>>>>>>>>>         mass gain
>>>>>>>>>>>         considered and documented.� The
>>>>>>>>>>>         ten (10)
>>>>>>>>>>>         consecutive runs on the new cell will be completed
>>>>>>>>>>>         soon and a
>>>>>>>>>>>         report will be
>>>>>>>>>>>         forthcoming.�� What is
>>>>>>>>>>>         interesting about
>>>>>>>>>>>         this phenomenon is that when an eleventh run was
>>>>>>>>>>>         made with the
>>>>>>>>>>>         original
>>>>>>>>>>>         electrolyte exactly the same amount of residue was
>>>>>>>>>>>         recovered
>>>>>>>>>>>         as in the previous
>>>>>>>>>>>         ten
>>>>>>>>>>>         runs.�����������������������������������������������������������������������
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         �
>>>>>>>>>>>         Since
>>>>>>>>>>>         the same electrolyte is reused each time with only
>>>>>>>>>>>         distilled
>>>>>>>>>>>         water being added
>>>>>>>>>>>         to replace the volume lost by the removal of the
>>>>>>>>>>>         solids and
>>>>>>>>>>>         the water recovered
>>>>>>>>>>>         by the recombination burn we are hard pressed to
>>>>>>>>>>>         explain the
>>>>>>>>>>>         observed
>>>>>>>>>>>         phenomenon.���� The
>>>>>>>>>>>         electrolyte appears
>>>>>>>>>>>         stronger in mineral concentration and shows no
>>>>>>>>>>>         sign of
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         depletion.��������������������������������
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         �� After conferring
>>>>>>>>>>>         with
>>>>>>>>>>>         Joe Tyls we arrived at
>>>>>>>>>>>         the conclusion that the 77 colloidal minerals
>>>>>>>>>>>         contained in the
>>>>>>>>>>>         electrolyte
>>>>>>>>>>>         provide the atomic templates needed for the
>>>>>>>>>>>         monatomic hydrogen
>>>>>>>>>>>         (father of all
>>>>>>>>>>>         the elements) to replicate selected elements in
>>>>>>>>>>>         this exotic
>>>>>>>>>>>         mixture.� If you
>>>>>>>>>>>         subscribe to the theories of the late
>>>>>>>>>>>         Walter Russell and his explanation of the octave
>>>>>>>>>>>         based
>>>>>>>>>>>         periodic table with
>>>>>>>>>>>         monatonic hydrogen being what he describes as
>>>>>>>>>>>         hydrons
>>>>>>>>>>>         (precursor to hydrogen)
>>>>>>>>>>>         then it is possible for the replication of
>>>>>>>>>>>         elements directly
>>>>>>>>>>>         from energy input
>>>>>>>>>>>         alone.� This is how all
>>>>>>>>>>>         matter was
>>>>>>>>>>>         created in the beginning as described by
>>>>>>>>>>>         Schappeller in �The
>>>>>>>>>>>         Physics of the
>>>>>>>>>>>         Primary State of Matter�.��� I
>>>>>>>>>>>         will keep
>>>>>>>>>>>         all informed as to our progress and findings in
>>>>>>>>>>>         this very
>>>>>>>>>>>         intriguing venture.
>>>>>>>>>>>         �
>>>>>>>>>>>         Norman
>>>>>>>>>>>         Wootan
>>>>>>>>>>>         P.O.
>>>>>>>>>>>         Box 141049
>>>>>>>>>>>         Dallas,
>>>>>>>>>>>         TX 75214
>>>>>>>>>>>         (214)
>>>>>>>>>>>         360-0865
>>>>>>>>>>>         �
>>>>>>>>>>>         �
>>>>>>>>>>>         CC:� Gene Mallove,
>>>>>>>>>>>         Infinite
>>>>>>>>>>>         Energy
>>>>>>>>>>>         CC:� Dr. John
>>>>>>>>>>>         Bockris, Texas
>>>>>>>>>>>         A/M
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         On 10/28/2018 1:01 AM,
>>>>>>>>>>>         Jakob Wall
>>>>>>>>>>>         wall_jakob@... <mailto:wall_jakob@...>
>>>>>>>>>>>         [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         �
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         Thanks Norman,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         BTW, what is the most effective water split
>>>>>>>>>>>         device that
>>>>>>>>>>>         you ever put you hands on?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         As HHO researcher for dekades you should be
>>>>>>>>>>>         able to point
>>>>>>>>>>>         us directly to the most effective known!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         Please be specific about reconstruction of the
>>>>>>>>>>>         same, since
>>>>>>>>>>>         we are in public domain it will become public
>>>>>>>>>>>         knowledge
>>>>>>>>>>>         and public good. I assume you intend nothing
>>>>>>>>>>>         else,rigth ?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         --------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         On Sat, 10/27/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:nwootan@...>
>>>>>>>>>>>         [EVGRAY]
>>>>>>>>>>>         <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>         wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's
>>>>>>>>>>>         Magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>         Battery [3 Attachments]
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         To: "Bert Pool" <BertPool512@...>
>>>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:BertPool512@...>,
>>>>>>>>>>>         "Bob
>>>>>>>>>>>         Paddock" <bob.paddock@...> <mailto:bob.paddock@...>,
>>>>>>>>>>>         "joel mcclain"
>>>>>>>>>>>         <joel_76670@....> <mailto:joel_76670@...>,
>>>>>>>>>>>         "Jon Gentry"
>>>>>>>>>>>         <jongen422@....> <mailto:jongen422@...>,
>>>>>>>>>>>         "Lane Wootan"
>>>>>>>>>>>         <lanewootan@...> <mailto:lanewootan@...>,
>>>>>>>>>>>         "Mbking42"
>>>>>>>>>>>         <mbking42@....> <mailto:mbking42@....>,
>>>>>>>>>>>         "Toby Grotz"
>>>>>>>>>>>         <wireless2@....> <mailto:wireless2@...>,
>>>>>>>>>>>         "Phil Rembold"
>>>>>>>>>>>         <prembold@....> <mailto:prembold@....>,
>>>>>>>>>>>         "Angel Alvarez"
>>>>>>>>>>>         <angel@...> <mailto:angel@...>,
>>>>>>>>>>>         "Fredric Fletcher"
>>>>>>>>>>>         <ffletcher@....> <mailto:ffletcher@...>,
>>>>>>>>>>>         [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         To understand the unwinding of a thread
>>>>>>>>>>>         leading
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         to Magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         Generating Hydrogen and this Magnetic Battery,
>>>>>>>>>>>         we have
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         to dust off
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         our� 9th grade Chemistry Books!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         http://www.rexresearch.com/ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm�����
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         I guess Dr.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         Ehrenhaft was the first to propose a Magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>         Current.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         (Jon
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         Gentry, Your liquid metal vortex helix).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         https://revolution-green.com/can-electrolysis-powered-magnets/������
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         Ah! Ha!� more on Magnetic Currents!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446..html
>>>>>>>>>>>         <https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446.html>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         https://www.labmanager.com/white-papers-and-application-notes/2010/05/resistivity-conductivity-measurement-of-purified-water#.W9So9uJRc2w
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         https://www.askiitians.com/forums/Physical-Chemistry/19/19074/electro-che
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpotential
>>>>>>>>>>>         <https://en.m..wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpotential>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         https://www.quora.com/Why-is-oxygen-molecule-paramagnetic-although-it-does-not-contain-any-unpaired-electron
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251580541_The_effect_of_magnetic_force_on_hydrogen_production_efficiency_in_water_electrolysis
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         http://www.physicscentral.com/experiment/physicsathome/electricwhirlpool.cfm
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         http://www.linux-host.org/energy/bmagpump.htm
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         Now Jon Gentry you have your liquid metal pump
>>>>>>>>>>>         so
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         that you can
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         make the helix tube Vortex!�
>>>>>>>>>>>         Ferricpetacarbonyl or
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         micro fine neo
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         powder to provide the liquid metal for pump
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         circuit.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         Lots of reading here!���� Please think
>>>>>>>>>>>         about the
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         ramifications of
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         a Magnetic Current as proposed by Dr.
>>>>>>>>>>>         Ehrenhaft!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
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Bart,

The reason i use everclear is because it's non toxic relatively cheap
and does not leave a residue after boiling off.   I can take it purer
with further distillation and zeolite molecular sieve but no reason to. 
Exactly, the residue in the distiller is the 2 to 4 ppm of whatever is
left from the RO unit.  I want to find out what it is because its so
strange feeling, like i said I am used to seeing really nasty minerals
in the bottom of water distillers not this few drops of slick water.

I don't know about laws up there but the two year primary residence
capital gains exemption here makes renovating and flipping houses
amazing business for the young and energetic, reliable way to wealth for
one with a good job and some construction abilities.

Outdoor green houses are fun to work with, I will never work on indoor
grows again now that I know about wasps and frogs.  Those damn white
mites and powder mold are too much with indoor artificial light grows,
sunlight is amazing.  A nice greenhouse with aeroponics and you can get
the yield you are looking for.  Not being a drinker or cannabis user
aside from external use for pain it was more of an interesting hobby for
me, now it's something of a been there done that thing and I no longer
have that much respect after what has happened here. 

It sounds as if Canada is going to do a better job to prevent some of
the problems we have run into. 

I think regulating and taxing any crop is so far against the spirit 
this country was formed as it is disgusting.  It was not long after we
declared freedom before a government of parasites was set back up and
did the same starting with the dictator Washington and the whiskey
rebellion.  Unfortunately self government is less and less likely as we
sadly seem to be degenerating very quickly as a species.   When nothing
is being done to stop children from being destroyed by autism now one in
forty five kids, and doctors are supposed to cause no harm.  Psyche meds
are being handed out to school children and this has become de facto.  
I think we are close to finished as a species of free choice individual
and will become some kind of sick collective organism modeled on social
media scores.  Now in the US all media is dispensing hate and using
trump as emanuel goldstein, teachers are braggin about spreading this
hate to children each day in school.  It's as if someone is claiming to
hate the smell of feces but dwelling on the smell every day.  I find
this mind space terrifying and much like nazi germany but sellling hate
has become big business.

Glad there are a few of us left who enjoy scientific exploration and
going against the status quo. I trust your family picked up on your
pioneering qualities.  Hope your family is doing well and has not
succumbed to the hate spreading around the globe.

On 11/11/2018 4:42 PM, bart woodard [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
>
> Mick,
>
>             Your left over residue sounds interesting, kind of like a
> negative charged sludge pollack talks about from Hardy!
>
> Does your distiller have nafion nano tubes !? lol
>
> Just sounding off here , but everclear is a grain alcohol of 75 %, RO
> has residue ppm usually 2 to 4
>
> Try a different grain alcohol and use distilled for cleaning, see what
> happens. Run it twice ,let it cool down to room temp then again to see
> its leftovers.
>
> My background?  Hmmm  how best to describe.
>
> I am old enough to have afforded most mistakes and to find a way to
> have some  recovery for more!
>
> Aircraft engineering  back ground. Real estate renos and flipping
> primarily as of late .   Made boat loads and spent boat loads mostly
> on my families educations and lives.
>
> So little in financial strength remaining.
>
> While always holding an interest in quackeries and the results of.
>
> I have had several good labs and have lost most due to thievery,
> floods and fires.
>
> It all takes its toll , my interests are weaning off!
>
> Would like to pick up a small farm so as to exercise values. 
>
> The wife is asking if there are farms in the city! lol
>
> I said yes , its called the city of farms! ha ha
>
> As far as the cops and rcmp guys  , well they have their own world .
> Some of them are already doing grows I hear.
>
> There application of thoughts are in the adaption to change attitude,
> a go with the times thing.
>
> They said the criminals have been laughing at them for years after
> being arrested  then in a short time the criminals fly by them in
> exotic sports cars
>
> live in high standard homes and have high end race boats and so on.
>
> I really do not care much about them  all, only they are people as
> well I guess.
>
> I only mentioned them because of reference to the social changes we
> are enduring.
>
> Its federal here so institutions are looking at the financial end as well.
>
> When your world you are in and all around are evolving , then the best
> you can do is maintain your own best and if you feel it so, then adapt .
>
> Yes its the new old gold rush here. Of course there will be gains and
> losses. Your info will be helpful , thankyou.
>
> As far as what type of grow!!   Its still out on the decision ,I am
> considering several small tents with different applications checking
> different values.
>
> What ever I do it will be inside with a controlled environment.
>
> The permit requires 24/7 security with a full log on all activity.
> Disposals , separate rooms for containment etc.
>
> So you will need a security company which is another reason I am
> chatting it up with the neighbors.
>
> According to the chat I had with the government office, you can be all
> values  research, wholesaler, processor, dispensary etc.
>
> they are also ushering in edibles. So ya , its our first stage of
> stupidity.
>
> I do not know what strain , I would like to design my own using the
> crispr methods.
>
> Spectrum values enhanced etc. Photon charges sustained in a stable
> like enviro etc.
>
> Master growers could be anybody really Mick. More difficult with out
> academic back ground but still doable I suppose.
>
> None of this is really new as you know , its really just coming to the
> opening where at least now we can benefit in an open environment for
> discussions.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of
> Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* November 11, 2018 12:49 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery [1
> Attachment]
>  
>  
>
> Bart,
>
> Yes the magnet that creates the vortex, since this water absorbs
> anything I am concerned about the teflon but that is really inert at
> low temps so probably no big thing.
>
> No the distiller is clean as a whistle, cleaned with everclear and
> lots of RO water.   It's something odd that feels wetter and thicker
> than normal water a slight oilyness has a super faint flowery smell
> and a super faint salt taste, only a few drops at the bottom each
> time.  Will send out for a mass spec when I collect enough.
>
> So what is your background or normal gig?
>
> Trichrome amounts are very strain related but also can be induced with
> natural nitrogen sources, selective wavelengths of light and selective
> CO2 concentrations all depending on the plants lifecycle phase.  A
> good grow depends on lots of quality water and lots of quality water
> and dont forget lots of quality water, lots of light and temperature
> stability.  Most people who smoke prefer dirt grown over hydro because
> of better taste.  For fastest production line would likely result from
> dwarf genetics and aeroponics.  Mist growing beats hydroponic as the
> roots can function more naturally with gas exchange.
> Down here some people are making concentrates where all the terpenes
> have been removed down to a clear THC oil and a few other things
> fractioned with chromatography then they are replacing the terpenes
> based on the end flavor intent often using terpenes from other plants
> such as citrus.  Waaaay too unnatural but it has gotten this weird
> already.  I have been told most of the terpenes are bioidentical with
> other plants but have not researched this claim.
>
> Also down here the Indian reservations are getting ready to begin
> large scale operations that may further reduce farmer profits as they
> will be licensed to sell interstate.  Likely the big tobacco companies
> will be partnering with the Indians.  In the end the government only
> cares about how much tax they can revenue so laws will be generated to
> bolster this function above other concerns.
>
> I hope those RCMP are not ones who arrested pot users before else they
> are definitely ethically challenged and should not be involved in any
> business venture as potential partners.  Successful long term
> businesses rely on high ethics and no passive aggressive personalities.
>
> I wonder who will instruct in these "Master Grower" courses, old time
> hippie black market growers who probably know the most from years of
> practice or a bunch of scientists who think they know the most from
> memorizing books...  Good to have plant geneticists though, have any
> of these specialists worked with cannabis before and if so how long?  
> The biochem people will be amazing for the concentrates market.
>
> Interesting how the Universities are already becoming the expert
> source on something very few were allowed to research without a
> rigamarole of gov licensing.  As usual "we take ze money Lebowski"
>
> Speaking of money down here banking is the main problem for this
> business since it's federally illegal they are not allowed normal
> business loans and access to lines of credit such as bridging loans.
>
> I think in the end the processors may do better than most except the
> best farmers.
>
>
> On 11/10/2018 9:49 PM, bart woodard [email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>  
>>
>> It may be possible the saponins you mentioned are some cleaning agent
>> lodged in your distiller...
>>
>> Try boiling lines fittings etc.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> on behalf of
>> Mick [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
>> *Sent:* November 10, 2018 10:09 PM
>> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>> *Subject:* Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery [1
>> Attachment]
>>  
>>  
>>
>> Bart,
>>
>> Sorry meant to say saponins
>>
>>
>> On 11/10/2018 3:44 PM, bart woodard [email protected]
>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>  
>>>
>>> Mick,
>>>
>>>    I use all glass(general) in all of of my process , from start to
>>> consumption.
>>>
>>> As far as carcinogenics go, I roll with it mostly. As the body
>>> flushes it out at this size.dark field analyses.
>>>
>>> You can check ec
>>>
>>> As the parts per billion are not inductive to any negative value in
>>> compilation.
>>>
>>> Under any lab results   the values go off the charts so I have been
>>> mostly doing
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark-field_microscopy
>>>
>>> <https://en...wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark-field_microscopy>
>>> 	
>>> Dark-field microscopy - Wikipedia
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark-field_microscopy>
>>> en.wikipedia.org
>>> Dark-field microscopy is a very simple yet effective technique and
>>> well suited for uses involving live and unstained biological
>>> samples, such as a smear from a tissue culture or individual,
>>> water-borne, single-celled organisms. Considering the simplicity of
>>> the setup, the quality of images obtained from this technique is
>>> impressive.
>>>
>>> at home under my own microscope, checking positive values with
>>> negative values in comparisons. been doing this for years now.
>>>
>>> Even with some people consider this bull , it does have a valid
>>> outcome with exercise of repetitive work.
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mg21897IW_4
>>>
>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mg21897IW_4>
>>> 	
>>> Live Blood Analysis Dark Field Microscopy explained
>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mg21897IW_4>
>>> www.youtube.com <http://www.youtube.com>
>>> Dark Field Microscopy Live Blood Analysis explained like never before
>>>
>>> Any values that gets through are of good results as proven by
>>> results.  When we refect positive intent we get the same.
>>>
>>> As far as deposits collected at the bottom of you vessel, it could
>>> be gold or copper pending on colour .  or sludge build of a
>>> dominated mineral.
>>>
>>> Mounatous  regions can have anything as plates push everything.  All
>>> water tables run every and anywhere. It can be a good coloidal value.
>>>
>>> Certain plants thrive on different minerals, check the vegitation
>>> results in your area.
>>>
>>>          sapogens ?
>>>
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapogenin
>>>
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapogenin>
>>> 	
>>> Sapogenin - Wikipedia <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapogenin>
>>> en.wikipedia.org
>>> Sapogenins are the aglycones, or non-saccharide, portions of the
>>> family of natural products known as saponins.Sapogenins contain
>>> steroid or other triterpene frameworks as their key organic feature.
>>> For example, steroidal sapogenins such as tiggenin, neogitogenin,
>>> and tokorogenin have been isolated from the tubers of Chlorophytum
>>> arundinaceum. Some steroidal sapogenins can serve as a practical ...
>>>
>>> I am recently looking at starting what is called a micro growing
>>> operation for cannabis here in Canada.
>>>
>>> The prof is here because he feels we can play with research
>>> regarding the enhancement of cbd and the thc levels regarding the
>>> dna enhancements.
>>>
>>> So I have been looking to purchase a farm. The returns on a yearly
>>> basis are impressive  1.5  4.5 mill. based on 600 kilos.
>>>
>>> Open for offers for any one.
>>>
>>> As far as Norms water device , it is a soft application making use
>>> of the nonferrite mags. Good stuff!
>>>
>>> It creates a gentle enhancement on charges all arround for organs ,
>>> skin , hair, eyes etc.
>>>
>>>
>>> Hopefully some value for you!
>>>
>>> Bart
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> *From:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> on behalf
>>> of Mick [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
>>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>> *Sent:* November 10, 2018 4:23 PM
>>> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>> *Subject:* Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery [1
>>> Attachment]
>>>  
>>>  
>>>
>>> Bart,
>>>
>>> Tell your friend-Even if ethically swayed by grant money, professors
>>> can be human too, or maybe long ago they once were.
>>>
>>> Is there any procedure you utilize to determine if the ghost
>>> elements are carcinogenic or not?
>>>
>>> What is the best material for the magnetic stirrer? 
>>>
>>> I think many are polyethylene coated due to it's inert nature.
>>>
>>> I recently acquired this water distiller. I have seen these used in
>>> two places with tap water in Southern California and the crap on the
>>> bottom stunk and was brown and crusty.  When I use the distiller
>>> with my processed water the bottom of the unit is clean but for a
>>> few drop of something I have been collecting in a glass.   We live
>>> in Oregon in the mountains not near any old mines or chemical sites
>>> so the water is pretty pristine except for a high concentration of
>>> minerals and manganese.
>>>
>>> The stuff left in the distiller has a flowery smell so I think it
>>> make be sapogens from plants or oils from minerals, maybe just info
>>> fields trying to recombine.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/10/2018 12:31 PM, bart woodard [email protected]
>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> Hi Mick,
>>>>
>>>>   Well needless to say... you are charged lol!
>>>>
>>>> All water from any where has different values with different
>>>> mineral combinations.
>>>>
>>>> So whether its been RO then distilled it will still continue with
>>>> carrying its trace like (ghost)  elements. You are only looking at
>>>> ppm or parts per million.
>>>>
>>>> Not parts per billion and so on. Some say parts per google!
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately most will be carcinogenic due to its weight like or
>>>> charges needed to extend itself  tho not all will.
>>>>
>>>> Even so with the stirrer the vortex will create an implosion
>>>> enhancing the ghost like values remaining.
>>>>
>>>> The molecule will become broken down to several sizes smaller ,
>>>> lets say 5 times approximately or less or greater than.
>>>>
>>>> The four principles of play come in effect.
>>>>
>>>> *The Four Fundamental Forces and their strengths*
>>>>
>>>>   * Gravitational Force – Weakest force; but infinite range. ( Not
>>>>     part of standard model)
>>>>   * Weak Nuclear Force – Next weakest; but short range.
>>>>   * Electromagnetic Force – Stronger, with infinite range.
>>>>   * Strong Nuclear Force – Strongest; but short range.
>>>>
>>>> With in the molecule it has a characteristic tendency so as not to
>>>> enhance its ph factor with straight on electrical simulated charges.
>>>>
>>>> We can not for now mimic the frequency  water likes to evolve to
>>>> sustain itself at keeping it at a stabilized value with in.
>>>>
>>>> So circuit wise or electronically it is only a short life the ph
>>>> may be increased . Tho I have not ventured out lately.
>>>>
>>>> Its been several years for me so forgive my sloppy answers on
>>>> recalling the research done.
>>>>
>>>> Magnetic values are best used for the best overall out come. The
>>>> molecule stabilizes itself after a would be spike ( Brownian Motion).
>>>>
>>>> Distilled that's  acidic at 6.2  can be elevated to 7.4 after it
>>>> hits 8.5 or so give or take.
>>>>
>>>> It can stabilize itself to 7.4 which is where I like it to be for
>>>> consumption.
>>>>
>>>> Tap water, well water etc will go to ammonia like, say right up to
>>>> 14- 15- ph.
>>>>
>>>> Good for paint stripping lol.
>>>>
>>>> So distilled @ 0 ppm  will go to 3ppm or more as well as the ph
>>>> increase.
>>>>
>>>> I do not want to use RO as its values can be anywhere.
>>>>
>>>> The clustering effect has all the values as in one make up volume.
>>>>
>>>> So you get it all , all charges , but mostly enhanced as our body
>>>> only keeps the larger values and discharges the unwanted ones .
>>>>
>>>> We discharge positive and maintain negative values.
>>>>
>>>> In another words you get it all good with the bad. But still better
>>>> than a too high ph value as this can burn your cilia and enzymes
>>>>
>>>> with all and good and bad acids in digestion values.
>>>>
>>>> Our mitochondria will only accept values approx one micron , so
>>>> water at five or more times smaller hydrates our cells more easily.
>>>>
>>>> Thus delivering any value needed to cells requiring assistance.
>>>>
>>>> Hope this has some value some-wheres lol
>>>>
>>>> As I said its been a while.
>>>>
>>>> Bart
>>>>
>>>> PS  A prof just showed up while I am typing this laughing at me .
>>>>
>>>>         He says to add that the sun feels symbiotic to earth as it
>>>> senses we are out of sync so its releasing more flares.
>>>>
>>>> I told him its the hydrogen intent! lol
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> *From:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> on behalf
>>>> of Mick [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
>>>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>> *Sent:* November 10 
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> Bart,
>>>>
>>>> Your information including on your cat is very interesting.  I have
>>>> been using distilled water that is first softened and then RO  then
>>>> distilled beginning from my well.   It has a similar "drying"
>>>> effect as norms wholly water though not as pronounced.
>>>>
>>>> Could you please provide more information on your experiments
>>>> concerning distilled water and using the magnetic stirrer and how
>>>> that alkalizes the water?   The NMR and parahydrogen post if very
>>>> long winded so difficult for me to get the gist of your presentation.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Mick
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11/10/2018 10:37 AM, bart woodard [email protected]
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>> I use a magnetic stirrer with distilled and wait for the ph to
>>>>> rise, the results are immediate.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://hannainst.com/hi190m-1-magnetic-mini-stirrer.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Mini Magnetic Stirrer (115V) - HI190M-1 - Hanna Instruments
>>>>> <https://hannainst.com/hi190m-1-magnetic-mini-stirrer.html>
>>>>> hannainst.com
>>>>> Compact. Lightweight. This mini magnetic stirrer with plastic
>>>>> cover can stir up to 1 liter. Big power, small footprint. Perfect
>>>>> for any lab!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> *From:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> on behalf
>>>>> of Norman Wootan [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
>>>>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>> *Sent:* November 10, 2018 12:34 PM
>>>>> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery [2
>>>>> Attachments]
>>>>>  
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>> No!� Bart, never got into that exotic element stuff!� Just
>>>>> followed those that were!
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/10/2018 10:42 AM, bart woodard [email protected]
>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>> �
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey Norm , your life's experiences have been fruitful!! Congrats!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Have you ever played with table top combinations� such as
>>>>>> thorium and fluoride or the molten salt combo?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On a hobbyist� basis approach?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rossi likes to inject nickel/mag� powder so as I see to
>>>>>> maintain his 1k output!.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> *From:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> on
>>>>>> behalf of Norman Wootan [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>> *Sent:* November 9, 2018 3:12 PM
>>>>>> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery [2
>>>>>> Attachments]
>>>>>> �
>>>>>> �
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mick! To answer the rest of your questions:� In that ARC
>>>>>> process you have to use carbon rods to yield the carbon monoxide
>>>>>> & hydrogen.� (carbon source) (arc is heat source).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Holy Water was interesting part of the Elemental Replication
>>>>>> experiment. See:�
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Elemental Replication ?*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *�*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ����� Around mid September I put together an
>>>>>> electrolysis cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold Fusion Cell
>>>>>> with the goal of exploring the possibilities of making what is
>>>>>> termed �Pristine Water�.�� This water which will be used
>>>>>> by Homeopaths will have had all memory or information removed.�
>>>>>> This is accomplished by recombining monatomic hydrogen and
>>>>>> monatomic oxygen as generated in a properly designed cell.�
>>>>>> This is the ultimate in purity since this is water with
>>>>>> conditions at the time of original creation.� �Wholy
>>>>>> Water�is a term coined by my dear friend and fellow researcher
>>>>>> Joe Tyls of Vancouver, BC.�� After several weeks of
>>>>>> successful operation producing water that had all the earmarks of
>>>>>> a true �pristine water� a fellow researcher suggested using
>>>>>> an alternate electrolyte.�� A solution was selected that
>>>>>> contained 77 colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the
>>>>>> easiest assimilated into the body.�� With the electrolyte
>>>>>> changed the cell was put back into operation as before with a
>>>>>> nice recombination burn and production of the sought after
>>>>>> �pristine water�.���
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The water produced in the recombination burn of the H-H-O was
>>>>>> collected from a silica glass condenser into a silica glass
>>>>>> beaker for sampling.� When you flipped several CCs of the water
>>>>>> into your mouth and tried to swallow, there was nothing there.�
>>>>>> Hmmmm!� We immediately tested the viscosity and surface tension
>>>>>> of the water and found it to be far below human blood which means
>>>>>> that the water diffused directly into the capillaries around the
>>>>>> tongue therefore nothing there to swallow.� The two Doctor who
>>>>>> were there were amazed. � To prove the theory as to information
>>>>>> carried by water, we collected a sample of several CCs into a
>>>>>> plastic lab cup instead of the silica glass beaker. When you
>>>>>> flipped the several CCs into your mouth you had to immediately
>>>>>> spit it out for it was pure taste of plastic. This water picks up
>>>>>> signature of anything it comes into contact with.� That is why
>>>>>> the Homeopathic Doctors wanted it for making their
>>>>>> tinctures.��� (signature of a healing agent). ��� We
>>>>>> had all the necessary instruments to evaluate the Pristine water.
>>>>>> See: � https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemorheology
>>>>>> <https://en..m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemorheology>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hemorheology - Wikipedia
>>>>>> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemorheology>
>>>>>> en.m.wikipedia.org
>>>>>> Blood viscosity is a measure of the resistance of blood to flow.
>>>>>> It can also be described as the thickness and stickiness of
>>>>>> blood. This biophysical property makes it a critical determinant
>>>>>> of friction against the vessel walls, the rate of venous return,
>>>>>> the work required for the heart to pump blood, and how much
>>>>>> oxygen is transported to tissues and organs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ��
>>>>>> http://www.dynalenelabs.com/testing-services/thermal-testing/viscosity-rheology/?gclid=CjwKCAiA_ZTfBRBjEiwAN6YG4SdHu5bWZ9yHLBM9VNQ0TLl4tB1hOqMvR_dOEHNbGX6k_kDHHtb5xhoCgIgQAvD_BwE
>>>>>> ��������
>>>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tensiometer
>>>>>> <https://en..m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tensiometer>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> � https://hydramotion.com/en/technical/units-of-viscosity
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I made an offer to the Doctors present that a small unit for
>>>>>> production of a liter/day of Pristine Water via complete unit
>>>>>> built of quartz glass could be had for $5,000. Apparently they
>>>>>> were not that enthused as we thought!� Oh! Well!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I built numerous Pyramids of all sizes and the Orgone
>>>>>> Accumulators and even the Cloud� Buster.�� The pyramid
>>>>>> experiments were very interesting for real effects were
>>>>>> shown.�� Never tested whether water would� break after
>>>>>> treatment by either Orgone� or pyramid.��� The complete
>>>>>> description of the 4 inch cell is in the Elemental replication
>>>>>> Part Two. See:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cell Description
>>>>>>
>>>>>> �
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ��� The electrolysis cell is designed to hold one (1) liter
>>>>>> of electrolyte and operate at approximately 150 watt power level
>>>>>> for the production of monatomic hydrogen and� monatomic oxygen
>>>>>> which is burned back to pure water and collected in a glass
>>>>>> condenser.� Cell container is schedule 40 PVC pipe section 6
>>>>>> inches long with bottom cap cemented on.� The top of the cell
>>>>>> has a 4 inch female thread adapter cemented on to provide access
>>>>>> to the interior via a male threaded plug which has the gas outlet
>>>>>> port and two electrolyte fill ports to provide for replacement of
>>>>>> lost electrolyte on the fly for continuos operation.� Positive
>>>>>> and negative terminals are provided for external connection of
>>>>>> the power supply leads to the internal anode- cathode stack.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ��� The cell plate stack consist of 8 anode plates and 8
>>>>>> cathode plates of the following sizes constructed from 316L
>>>>>> stainless steel of 22 ga. thickness.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 4 ea.� 3� X 3� plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 2.75�plates,� 2
>>>>>> ea. 3� X 2.5�plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 2.25� plates,� 2 ea.
>>>>>> 3� X 2� plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 1.75� plates, and� 2 ea.
>>>>>> 3� X 1.5� plates.� The plates are drilled and stacked with
>>>>>> alternating anode and cathode plates spaced 1/8� apart which
>>>>>> makes a cylindrical shaped array which fits nicely inside of the
>>>>>> 4� ID PVC� cell container.� Electrical leads are braided
>>>>>> copper of #10 size which are covered by shrink tubing to cover
>>>>>> conductive surface as they pass through the electrolyte to the
>>>>>> cell terminal bolts.� All electrical surfaces other than the
>>>>>> anode and cathode plates are carefully covered with PVC cement to
>>>>>> prevent deterioration from electrolyte contact.��� Please
>>>>>> note that if allowed to come into contact with �charged�
>>>>>> surfaces monatomic hydrogen and monatonic oxygen will imediately
>>>>>> form into their usual occuring state as diatomic H2 and O2 molecules.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ���������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/8/2018 4:29 PM, Mick [email protected]
>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>> �
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Norm,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The catalysts are very interesting.� Iron Cobalt and Nickel
>>>>>>> all ferromagnetic but at different spins.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Correct me if I am wrong but based on reading your links a
>>>>>>> bingofuel type reactor using tungsten electrodes that hopefully
>>>>>>> would last much longer would likely produce OH rather than H and
>>>>>>> carbon monoxide, what do you think?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also water is strange indeed in that a pyramid or orgone
>>>>>>> accumulator changes it and these simple changes could make for
>>>>>>> water that breaks up more easily.� I would love to know what
>>>>>>> results you demonstrated with the totally juvenile memory free
>>>>>>> water you put back together from the OH?�
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sorry to hear about your neck fracture, I have a similar issue
>>>>>>> and it is extremely painful and debilitating at times.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mick
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11/7/2018 4:15 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected]
>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>> �
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 11/7/2018 6:06 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jakob Wall! & all other researchers on here need to read the
>>>>>>>>> Whole Story as to why I no longer have a research lab.�
>>>>>>>>> Jakob, I'm sorry I did not reveal to you the BEST in my
>>>>>>>>> opinion of methods of producing hydrogen gas for I felt it was
>>>>>>>>> a little too advanced and difficult for you to experiment
>>>>>>>>> with.� See: https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en
>>>>>>>>> .�� There is a very long story behind this US Patent and a
>>>>>>>>> hell of a lot of research. The quest for a very inexpensive
>>>>>>>>> method of splitting water has been the Holy Grail of� cheap
>>>>>>>>> energy.�� In addition to the research papers and links
>>>>>>>>> that I gave to you, here are some more to dwell on.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.researchgate.net/post/At_what_temperature_water_will_decompose_to_Oxygen_and_Hydrogen
>>>>>>>>> <https://www..researchgate.net/post/At_what_temperature_water_will_decompose_to_Oxygen_and_Hydrogen>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.quora.com/Does-water-break-down-into-oxygen-and-hydrogen-at-high-temperatures-If-so-then-at-what-temperature
>>>>>>>>> <https://www..quora.com/Does-water-break-down-into-oxygen-and-hydrogen-at-high-temperatures-If-so-then-at-what-temperature>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.quora.com/How-much-water-can-you-split-into-hydrogen-and-oxygen-using-electrolysis-with-one-kilowatt-hour-of-electricity
>>>>>>>>> <https://www..quora.com/How-much-water-can-you-split-into-hydrogen-and-oxygen-using-electrolysis-with-one-kilowatt-hour-of-electricity>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.redrok.com/hion96a1.htm
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.nature.com/articles/nplants201741
>>>>>>>>> <https://www..nature.com/articles/nplants201741>�� Please
>>>>>>>>> read carefully about the play of Nickel in this approach!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_splitting
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water-gas_shift_reaction���
>>>>>>>>> I owned 77 acres of land in Eureka Springs, AR where they
>>>>>>>>> still had the old water gas generator and gas storage facility.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decarboxylation
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://phys.org/news/2018-02-uncovers-mechanism-water-splitting-catalyst.html
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/new-catalyst-could-split-water-cheaply/
>>>>>>>>> <https://www..scientificamerican.com/article/new-catalyst-could-split-water-cheaply/>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.technologyreview.com/s/512996/a-cheaper-way-to-make-hydrogen-from-water/
>>>>>>>>> <https://www..technologyreview.com/s/512996/a-cheaper-way-to-make-hydrogen-from-water/>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "*SUPER STEAM* - A Tesla conference in Colorado surfaces new
>>>>>>>>> Super Steam Technology (SST). Leonard Dorsett and friends from
>>>>>>>>> Texas share strikingly similar views to Aquarian Agency Ltd.
>>>>>>>>> They have technology which produces steam instantly at up to
>>>>>>>>> 3,000F without a boiler and with 60% savings in fuel over
>>>>>>>>> traditional boilers. Nitrogen rich, it can put out gasoline
>>>>>>>>> fires and treat many waste problems. Of major importance to
>>>>>>>>> Aquarian, this nitrogen-rich steam will help to produce heat
>>>>>>>>> and Aquastone at considerable savings."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For further information on Aquarian Agency Ltd. they can be
>>>>>>>>> contacted at 38 Weir Rd, Wimbledon, London SW19 SUG, England
>>>>>>>>> or on Internet at <aquarian ocign.ape.org>. *_SUPER STEAM
>>>>>>>>> TECHNOLOGY PART 2_*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Leonard Dorsett (PO Box 365, Grapevine, TX 76092) demonstrated
>>>>>>>>> his Super Steam Technology at the 1994 International Tesla
>>>>>>>>> Symposium. SST is a system for producing steam at any
>>>>>>>>> temperature or pressure independently and instantly without
>>>>>>>>> the need for a conventional boiler. It can instantly produce
>>>>>>>>> steam of any temperature from hot water at 180F to super
>>>>>>>>> heated steam at over 3000F, while pressures can vary from 1PSI
>>>>>>>>> to 3000PSI with airflow volumes of 1CFM up to over 2000CFM.
>>>>>>>>> The system operates on propane, methane, petrol, kerosene,
>>>>>>>>> methanol, diesel, hydrogen or just about anything else that
>>>>>>>>> bums and converts virtually 100% of the fuel into usable
>>>>>>>>> energy. (Note: The person in the picture is Norman Wootan of
>>>>>>>>> MRA fame)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This all sounds great, but how does it work? The basis of the
>>>>>>>>> unit is a specially designed open throat chamber with
>>>>>>>>> controlled air, water and fuel interaction and a high voltage
>>>>>>>>> ignition resulting in a direct fire process establishing
>>>>>>>>> thermal zones. This creates a stoichiometric condition
>>>>>>>>> resulting in a full spectrum of steam product. Now comes the
>>>>>>>>> interesting part At the increased temperatures of steam,
>>>>>>>>> disassociation occurs. (Could this be a clue to running cars
>>>>>>>>> on water??) The hydrogen and oxygen reacts causing an
>>>>>>>>> exponential increase of energy resulting in super heated
>>>>>>>>> steam. A similar superheat process was addressed by Tesla in
>>>>>>>>> the October 12, 1911 publication of the "Engineering News Record".
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Applications of the SST system include a much more economical
>>>>>>>>> way of producing electricity as no conventional boiler is
>>>>>>>>> needed. It will also be an ideal low cost method for heating
>>>>>>>>> and cooling homes and businesses. Small portable units can be
>>>>>>>>> developed for home use, such as steam cleaning, and insect and
>>>>>>>>> ant removal, without the dangers of insecticides. The system
>>>>>>>>> can also be used for low cost purification of polluted water
>>>>>>>>> or sewerage and can also convert salt water into drinking
>>>>>>>>> water both quickly and inexpensively. Other uses are in fire
>>>>>>>>> fighting applications, ice and snow removal from roads, etc.
>>>>>>>>> and sterilization and nurturing of soil for agriculture where
>>>>>>>>> contamination has occurred.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I had designed a method of making hydrogen from carbon & water
>>>>>>>>> vapor using the Tesla Atomic Bombardment method of high
>>>>>>>>> frequency inside of spherical inclosure like this experiments
>>>>>>>>> with the carbon button lamp globes.�� After working with
>>>>>>>>> Leonard Dorsett and his Super Steam Project, I chose to use
>>>>>>>>> the Water Shift Process instead.� A side note is needed
>>>>>>>>> here!� The Super Steam Process was a result of Professor
>>>>>>>>> Brown studying the method the German's used for torpedo
>>>>>>>>> propulsion from WWI.� Acetylene Gas and sea water produced
>>>>>>>>> an exothermic reaction generating Super Steam. Brown built
>>>>>>>>> several reactors and tested them in the Tulsa area to break
>>>>>>>>> (down hole) the parafin deposits to release crude oil.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The Chemical equation for the reaction in the US Patent:
>>>>>>>>> https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *(6C + 12 H2O� = 6CO2 + 24H) *
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hydrogen Reactor Development
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *�*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Original concept design was a high voltage, high frequency
>>>>>>>>> resonant device that utilized carbon water reaction with the
>>>>>>>>> feedstock being in the form of graphite rod stock.� This
>>>>>>>>> unit was designed for vehicle application and had too many
>>>>>>>>> limitations to be used for mass hydrogen generation.� This
>>>>>>>>> type reactor is very effective at hydrogen production since it
>>>>>>>>> targets the water vapor molecule at MRI frequencies, which
>>>>>>>>> breaks the bonding, allowing the carbon to latch onto the
>>>>>>>>> oxygen atoms leaving the hydrogen free. This device was a
>>>>>>>>> closed system that used a simple CO2/hydrogen separation stage
>>>>>>>>> that enabled the hydrogen to be feed to an internal combustion
>>>>>>>>> engine.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *�*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *To allow for a sustained high mass flow of hydrogen gas
>>>>>>>>> output, reactor design took on a radical change.� By
>>>>>>>>> incorporating the Ranque/Hilsch, Counter Flow Implosion Vortex
>>>>>>>>> Principle, and continuous high mass flow and gas separation
>>>>>>>>> were achieved in one stage of operation.� Feedstock for this
>>>>>>>>> type reactor could be any carbon-based material that could be
>>>>>>>>> put into a powder form.� Highest carbon content of the
>>>>>>>>> feedstock provides for the most efficient hydrogen production
>>>>>>>>> with the least undesirable output material.*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *�*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Super high temperature operating regime was chosen to be
>>>>>>>>> above 2500 C for the purpose of producing atomic hydrogen in
>>>>>>>>> the process.� The original reactor operated at temperatures
>>>>>>>>> that easily gasified basic carbon into a plasma state (>10,000
>>>>>>>>> F) more easily allowing the production of hydrogen from the
>>>>>>>>> stoichiometric feed stock ratios.*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> **
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I sold one of my Patents (Sonodiffuser) and paid for my 52
>>>>>>>>> acres of land and built a 5200 sq. Ft. lab the do the
>>>>>>>>> Prototype machining and Proof of Concept testing for GAZPROM,
>>>>>>>>> Moscow in 2005. A $1.2 million investment and they got the
>>>>>>>>> rights to the process and I got the beautiful Research Lab all
>>>>>>>>> paid in full. I was a self employed Contractor in Dallas
>>>>>>>>> working with HVAC, Electrical and Electronics Maintenance so
>>>>>>>>> had to commute 170 miles/day and only had the week ends for my
>>>>>>>>> time! Having to mow grass and maintane the 52 acres took all
>>>>>>>>> my time and when I suffered a neck fracture in 2012, had to
>>>>>>>>> retire. Liquidated the entire facility and sold it off. Moved
>>>>>>>>> to Dallas then to South Louisiana where I now do a lot of
>>>>>>>>> relaxing and fishing!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hector and ALL, I did my time in the Barrel so now I will just
>>>>>>>>> contribute to the dialog inorder to assist any research you
>>>>>>>>> may be doing within my area of experitise!���� BTW! I
>>>>>>>>> have been out to pasture for a long time now, so no BULL
>>>>>>>>> offense!� As Hector knows, "It fits"! Lol
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes! Hector, I will wear my Border Patrol Hat when you come
>>>>>>>>> visit from PR!� Lol
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 11/6/2018 8:52 PM, [email protected]
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> �
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> By the way ... i can hit mega millions or the power ball� .
>>>>>>>>>> i never will not have a lab i can work in,� that is worst
>>>>>>>>>> than death , you have no idea of the technology that had
>>>>>>>>>> being lost by the greedy fucking bastards fucking my life ,
>>>>>>>>>> they will loose all they have� "soon" because it had being
>>>>>>>>>> engineered that way by accumulative bad karma, i have another
>>>>>>>>>> lab they will never reach or be able to intercept or destroy
>>>>>>>>>> and that will decide their fate ..... they will be fucked hard !
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> (H)� �
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ---In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>,
>>>>>>>>>> <mkjekyll@...> <mailto:mkjekyll@...> wrote :
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cmon Hector,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Bad taste!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The man had a more serious lab than anyone else here and his
>>>>>>>>>> work speaks for itself.� Maybe he has gained the fortune he
>>>>>>>>>> desired through R&D and now shitting in tall cotton or gone
>>>>>>>>>> fishing reaping the rewards of retirement. Notwithstanding is
>>>>>>>>>> still kind enough to help point us in the right directions
>>>>>>>>>> around here.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "*Funny�I can look back on a life of achievement, on
>>>>>>>>>> challenges met, competitors bested, obstacles overcome.
>>>>>>>>>> I�ve accomplished more than most men, and without the use
>>>>>>>>>> of my legs. What?What makes a man, Mr. Lebowski?"*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 11/6/2018 8:04 AM, arkresearch@...
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:arkresearch@....> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>     �
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>     Dar n ! a Scientist inventor with no lab is like a
>>>>>>>>>>>     breeding bull with no balls !
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>     Balls Cow GIF - Balls Cow WingDangDoodle GIFs
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>     ---In [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]>, <nwootan@...>
>>>>>>>>>>>     <mailto:nwootan@...> wrote :
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>     Jacob! You asked me a question and I gave you my
>>>>>>>>>>>     opinion!� I'm totally retired at 80 years old and have
>>>>>>>>>>>     no lab to experiment in!� Your quote; I heard once a
>>>>>>>>>>>     phrase from a researcher who said. '' Slow down boy, we
>>>>>>>>>>>     get paid for llooking for solutions, not to find
>>>>>>>>>>>     them!''�� That certainly does not apply to me for I
>>>>>>>>>>>     have shared all with the folks on this site.� I find
>>>>>>>>>>>     you statement very interesting:� Technics that use up
>>>>>>>>>>>     10 % of a magnet in 24 hours with usual amount of gas
>>>>>>>>>>>     looks to me extremely inefficient.��
>>>>>>>>>>>     ??????������� Care to share where you saw
>>>>>>>>>>>     the power of a permanent magnet being used up!�� We
>>>>>>>>>>>     all here on this site share what ever knowledge we have
>>>>>>>>>>>     on the various subjects not seeking any monetary gain in
>>>>>>>>>>>     any way! That is my approach!�� I just contribute to
>>>>>>>>>>>     the dialog when I run across something interesting and
>>>>>>>>>>>     think it will assist you guys!�� Norm
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>     On 11/3/2018 11:32 PM, Jakob Wall wall_jakob@...
>>>>>>>>>>>     <mailto:wall_jakob@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         �
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         Thanks Norman,
>>>>>>>>>>>>         But i actually asced for ''most efficient way'' to
>>>>>>>>>>>>         split water known to you!
>>>>>>>>>>>>         I realize there are a lot of different technigues
>>>>>>>>>>>>         to do just that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>         And yes i realize you could give me a rather
>>>>>>>>>>>>         complex answer. But instead i hope for a
>>>>>>>>>>>>         rather easy and reproductive answer since i am
>>>>>>>>>>>>         looking forward to solve my enerrgy
>>>>>>>>>>>>         problems i just can not live with the momentary
>>>>>>>>>>>>         (sad and very stupid energy situation)
>>>>>>>>>>>>         I am still not giving up becouse of a couple
>>>>>>>>>>>>         mistakes and misunderstandings......
>>>>>>>>>>>>         If i would be a car dealer and you would ask me for
>>>>>>>>>>>>         a most efficient car available on the market
>>>>>>>>>>>>         i would for sure not recommend a Prius, since there
>>>>>>>>>>>>         are a lot of cars with better fuel economie
>>>>>>>>>>>>         even without being a hybrid and without additional
>>>>>>>>>>>>         cost like batterys,e-motors and a bunch added ECU's
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours
>>>>>>>>>>>>         with usual amount of gas looks to me extremely
>>>>>>>>>>>>         inefficient.
>>>>>>>>>>>>         Also very expensive HHO-Garage products with output
>>>>>>>>>>>>         of 1,6 ltr/min.
>>>>>>>>>>>>         Come on, 6 rusty nails and a old car batery does
>>>>>>>>>>>>         this job, no need to spend 1600 bucks on it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>         I honestly expected solide advise or a honest NO
>>>>>>>>>>>>         way boy, i just talking around.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said.
>>>>>>>>>>>>         '' Slow down boy, we get paid for llooking for
>>>>>>>>>>>>         solutions, not to find them!'' That shoked me
>>>>>>>>>>>>         deeply and even if i get 150 years old, i will not
>>>>>>>>>>>>         forget it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>         Thats true treason on mankind and deciving the
>>>>>>>>>>>>         people. I really hope nobody on this forum only care
>>>>>>>>>>>>         about what he/she will be doing tomorrow.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         Jakob
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         --------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>         On Sun, 10/28/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY]
>>>>>>>>>>>>         <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>>         Battery
>>>>>>>>>>>>         To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]>, "Bert Pool"
>>>>>>>>>>>>         <BertPool512@...> <mailto:BertPool512@...>, "Bob
>>>>>>>>>>>>         Paddock" <bob.paddock@...>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:bob.paddock@...>, "joel mcclain"
>>>>>>>>>>>>         <joel_76670@...> <mailto:joel_76670@...>, "Jon
>>>>>>>>>>>>         Gentry" <jongen422@...> <mailto:jongen422@...>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>         "Mbking42" <mbking42@...> <mailto:mbking42@...>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>         "Toby Grotz" <wireless2@...>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:wireless2@...>, "Phil Rembold"
>>>>>>>>>>>>         <prembold@...> <mailto:prembold@...>, "Angel
>>>>>>>>>>>>         Alvarez" <angel@...> <mailto:angel@...>, "Fredric
>>>>>>>>>>>>         Fletcher" <ffletcher@...> <mailto:ffletcher@...>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         Received: Sunday, October 28, 2018, 9:44 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         �
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         Jacob!� That would be a rather complex answer
>>>>>>>>>>>>         but here is your
>>>>>>>>>>>>         starting point!
>>>>>>>>>>>>         https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct-thermomagnetic-splitting-of-water-.html���
>>>>>>>>>>>>         After having been heavily involved in the COLD FUSION
>>>>>>>>>>>>         Research
>>>>>>>>>>>>         back in the 70s and 80s I quickly settled o0n the best
>>>>>>>>>>>>         catalyst in
>>>>>>>>>>>>         electrolytic cells which is pure nickel. I still have
>>>>>>>>>>>>         the cell
>>>>>>>>>>>>         used in the Elemental Replication experiments.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm����
>>>>>>>>>>>>         The hidden
>>>>>>>>>>>>         part of this research is the use of a nickel component
>>>>>>>>>>>>         in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>         combustion chamber. Bosch developed 90,000V ignition
>>>>>>>>>>>>         systems to
>>>>>>>>>>>>         enable water injection in gas engine which high
>>>>>>>>>>>>         lighted the
>>>>>>>>>>>>         Graneau HV decomposition of water via HVDC
>>>>>>>>>>>>         discharge!
>>>>>>>>>>>>         My magnetic Battery when run as an electrolytic cell
>>>>>>>>>>>>         to produce
>>>>>>>>>>>>         hydrogen does produce a huge amount of hydrogen gas as
>>>>>>>>>>>>         shown by
>>>>>>>>>>>>         the Dr. Ehrenhaft document.� I would tell you to
>>>>>>>>>>>>         pursue the super
>>>>>>>>>>>>         high Tesla magnetic flux and nickel electrodes in an
>>>>>>>>>>>>         electrolytic
>>>>>>>>>>>>         cell.� The major obstacle to be overcome is the rapid
>>>>>>>>>>>>         collection
>>>>>>>>>>>>         of ions from solution by the 1.3 Tesla flux across a
>>>>>>>>>>>>         ......020"
>>>>>>>>>>>>         mechanical gap which quickly takes the cell into a
>>>>>>>>>>>>         super-conduction mode which takes out the driving DC
>>>>>>>>>>>>         power supply.
>>>>>>>>>>>>         You can flush the magnetic gaps with distilled water
>>>>>>>>>>>>         and the gaps
>>>>>>>>>>>>         will show in the meg-ohm range then go to zero ohms
>>>>>>>>>>>>         after a short
>>>>>>>>>>>>         period of running, the gathered ions totally short
>>>>>>>>>>>>         cell. During
>>>>>>>>>>>>         the brief runs there is a huge amount of hydrogen gas
>>>>>>>>>>>>         produced�
>>>>>>>>>>>>         which I burned off as it was generated.� Much can be
>>>>>>>>>>>>         said about
>>>>>>>>>>>>         driving the cell with high frequencies as the Myers
>>>>>>>>>>>>         research
>>>>>>>>>>>>         showed.� Our friend up in Canada at George Wiseman,
>>>>>>>>>>>>         Eagle Research
>>>>>>>>>>>>         is running well ahead of the crowd on the production
>>>>>>>>>>>>         of H-H-O.
>>>>>>>>>>>>         Just for giggles!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         16 October
>>>>>>>>>>>>         1996
>>>>>>>>>>>>         To: Hal
>>>>>>>>>>>>         Fox,� Fusion Facts
>>>>>>>>>>>>         Elemental
>>>>>>>>>>>>         Replication ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>         �
>>>>>>>>>>>>         ����� Around mid
>>>>>>>>>>>>         September
>>>>>>>>>>>>         I put together an
>>>>>>>>>>>>         electrolysis cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold
>>>>>>>>>>>>         Fusion Cell
>>>>>>>>>>>>         with the goal of
>>>>>>>>>>>>         exploring the possibilities of making what is
>>>>>>>>>>>>         termed �Pristine
>>>>>>>>>>>>         Water�.�� This water
>>>>>>>>>>>>         which will be used by Homeopaths
>>>>>>>>>>>>         will have had all memory or information
>>>>>>>>>>>>         removed.� This is accomplished by
>>>>>>>>>>>>         recombining monatomic
>>>>>>>>>>>>         hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated in a
>>>>>>>>>>>>         properly
>>>>>>>>>>>>         designed cell.� This is
>>>>>>>>>>>>         the ultimate in purity since this is
>>>>>>>>>>>>         water with conditions at the time of original
>>>>>>>>>>>>         creation.� �Holly Water�is a term
>>>>>>>>>>>>         coined by my dear
>>>>>>>>>>>>         friend and fellow researcher Joe Tyls of
>>>>>>>>>>>>         Vancouver, BC.�� After several weeks of
>>>>>>>>>>>>         successful operation
>>>>>>>>>>>>         producing water that had all the earmarks of a
>>>>>>>>>>>>         true �pristine
>>>>>>>>>>>>         water� a fellow
>>>>>>>>>>>>         researcher suggested using an alternate
>>>>>>>>>>>>         electrolyte.�� A solution was selected
>>>>>>>>>>>>         that contained 77
>>>>>>>>>>>>         colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the
>>>>>>>>>>>>         easiest
>>>>>>>>>>>>         assimilated into the
>>>>>>>>>>>>         body.�� With the
>>>>>>>>>>>>         electrolyte changed the
>>>>>>>>>>>>         cell was put back into operation as before with a
>>>>>>>>>>>>         nice
>>>>>>>>>>>>         recombination burn and
>>>>>>>>>>>>         production of the sought after �pristine
>>>>>>>>>>>>         water�.�������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������
>>>>>>>>>>>>         �������
>>>>>>>>>>>>         ��� After about an
>>>>>>>>>>>>         hour of
>>>>>>>>>>>>         operation the cell
>>>>>>>>>>>>         went absolutely �nuts� with the temperature
>>>>>>>>>>>>         rapidly climbing
>>>>>>>>>>>>         to boiling point
>>>>>>>>>>>>         and the current out of sight.�
>>>>>>>>>>>>         When the
>>>>>>>>>>>>         cell was opened we found a deep red sludge deposit
>>>>>>>>>>>>         which
>>>>>>>>>>>>         shorted the cell
>>>>>>>>>>>>         plates.�� Our first
>>>>>>>>>>>>         thought was that the
>>>>>>>>>>>>         electrolytic action precipitated out the colloidal
>>>>>>>>>>>>         minerals
>>>>>>>>>>>>         which caused the
>>>>>>>>>>>>         deposit found.�� The�
>>>>>>>>>>>>         electrolyte was allowed
>>>>>>>>>>>>         to settle out the
>>>>>>>>>>>>         precipitate.�� After�
>>>>>>>>>>>>         decanting off,� the clear electrolyte
>>>>>>>>>>>>         was
>>>>>>>>>>>>         returned to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>         cell for another run. Again the cell operated
>>>>>>>>>>>>         normally for
>>>>>>>>>>>>         about an hour with a
>>>>>>>>>>>>         normal recombination burn and recovery of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>         water being
>>>>>>>>>>>>         consumed by the cell
>>>>>>>>>>>>         in the splitting action.�� Again
>>>>>>>>>>>>         the cell
>>>>>>>>>>>>         temperature and current mirrored the first
>>>>>>>>>>>>         run.�
>>>>>>>>>>>>         Again the cell contained the same amount of
>>>>>>>>>>>>         sludge
>>>>>>>>>>>>         residue.�� This process
>>>>>>>>>>>>         was repeated ten (10) times
>>>>>>>>>>>>         with exactly the same results.��
>>>>>>>>>>>>         All of
>>>>>>>>>>>>         the sludge was carefully dried and weighed on an
>>>>>>>>>>>>         electronic
>>>>>>>>>>>>         scale with a five
>>>>>>>>>>>>         decimal
>>>>>>>>>>>>         resolution.���������������������
>>>>>>>>>>>>         The cell plates and all hardware were
>>>>>>>>>>>>         weighed to
>>>>>>>>>>>>         determine any loss of
>>>>>>>>>>>>         mass that may contribute to the mass gain observed
>>>>>>>>>>>>         in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>         sludge.� Five hundred
>>>>>>>>>>>>         (500) ml of the original
>>>>>>>>>>>>         electrolyte solution used in the cell was vacuum
>>>>>>>>>>>>         distilled to
>>>>>>>>>>>>         determine the
>>>>>>>>>>>>         exact mass of colloidal minerals
>>>>>>>>>>>>         contained.�
>>>>>>>>>>>>         When all factors were considered we came
>>>>>>>>>>>>         out with a
>>>>>>>>>>>>         mass gain of� 48 gm
>>>>>>>>>>>>         which cannot be explained by
>>>>>>>>>>>>         conventional
>>>>>>>>>>>>         electrolysis.����������������������
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         ��� After talking
>>>>>>>>>>>>         to Dr.
>>>>>>>>>>>>         Robert Bass and Hal
>>>>>>>>>>>>         Fox I learned of a patent that has been filed on
>>>>>>>>>>>>         the
>>>>>>>>>>>>         transmutation of elements
>>>>>>>>>>>>         in the cold fusion cell which is the process that
>>>>>>>>>>>>         Dr. John
>>>>>>>>>>>>         Bockris has been so
>>>>>>>>>>>>         active in.�� Both Dr.
>>>>>>>>>>>>         Bass and Hal Fox
>>>>>>>>>>>>         stated that what I was observing is not the same
>>>>>>>>>>>>         as the
>>>>>>>>>>>>         transmutation observed
>>>>>>>>>>>>         in the cold fusion cell since I have a overall
>>>>>>>>>>>>         mass gain and
>>>>>>>>>>>>         not a lateral
>>>>>>>>>>>>         movement of elements in the periodic table toward
>>>>>>>>>>>>         lighter
>>>>>>>>>>>>         elements with a
>>>>>>>>>>>>         resulting heat release.� This
>>>>>>>>>>>>         unusual
>>>>>>>>>>>>         cell operation has caused quite a reaction in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>         scientific
>>>>>>>>>>>>         community. �At this
>>>>>>>>>>>>         time I have built a complete new cell
>>>>>>>>>>>>         with every possible factor which could possibly
>>>>>>>>>>>>         explain the
>>>>>>>>>>>>         mass gain
>>>>>>>>>>>>         considered and documented.� The
>>>>>>>>>>>>         ten (10)
>>>>>>>>>>>>         consecutive runs on the new cell will be completed
>>>>>>>>>>>>         soon and a
>>>>>>>>>>>>         report will be
>>>>>>>>>>>>         forthcoming.�� What is
>>>>>>>>>>>>         interesting about
>>>>>>>>>>>>         this phenomenon is that when an eleventh run was
>>>>>>>>>>>>         made with the
>>>>>>>>>>>>         original
>>>>>>>>>>>>         electrolyte exactly the same amount of residue was
>>>>>>>>>>>>         recovered
>>>>>>>>>>>>         as in the previous
>>>>>>>>>>>>         ten
>>>>>>>>>>>>         runs.�����������������������������������������������������������������������
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         �
>>>>>>>>>>>>         Since
>>>>>>>>>>>>         the same electrolyte is reused each time with only
>>>>>>>>>>>>         distilled
>>>>>>>>>>>>         water being added
>>>>>>>>>>>>         to replace the volume lost by the removal of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>         solids and
>>>>>>>>>>>>         the water recovered
>>>>>>>>>>>>         by the recombination burn we are hard pressed to
>>>>>>>>>>>>         explain the
>>>>>>>>>>>>         observed
>>>>>>>>>>>>         phenomenon.���� The
>>>>>>>>>>>>         electrolyte appears
>>>>>>>>>>>>         stronger in mineral concentration and shows no
>>>>>>>>>>>>         sign of
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         depletion.��������������������������������
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         �� After conferring
>>>>>>>>>>>>         with
>>>>>>>>>>>>         Joe Tyls we arrived at
>>>>>>>>>>>>         the conclusion that the 77 colloidal minerals
>>>>>>>>>>>>         contained in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>         electrolyte
>>>>>>>>>>>>         provide the atomic templates needed for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>         monatomic hydrogen
>>>>>>>>>>>>         (father of all
>>>>>>>>>>>>         the elements) to replicate selected elements in
>>>>>>>>>>>>         this exotic
>>>>>>>>>>>>         mixture.� If you
>>>>>>>>>>>>         subscribe to the theories of the late
>>>>>>>>>>>>         Walter Russell and his explanation of the octave
>>>>>>>>>>>>         based
>>>>>>>>>>>>         periodic table with
>>>>>>>>>>>>         monatonic hydrogen being what he describes as
>>>>>>>>>>>>         hydrons
>>>>>>>>>>>>         (precursor to hydrogen)
>>>>>>>>>>>>         then it is possible for the replication of
>>>>>>>>>>>>         elements directly
>>>>>>>>>>>>         from energy input
>>>>>>>>>>>>         alone.� This is how all
>>>>>>>>>>>>         matter was
>>>>>>>>>>>>         created in the beginning as described by
>>>>>>>>>>>>         Schappeller in �The
>>>>>>>>>>>>         Physics of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>         Primary State of Matter�.��� I
>>>>>>>>>>>>         will keep
>>>>>>>>>>>>         all informed as to our progress and findings in
>>>>>>>>>>>>         this very
>>>>>>>>>>>>         intriguing venture.
>>>>>>>>>>>>         �
>>>>>>>>>>>>         Norman
>>>>>>>>>>>>         Wootan
>>>>>>>>>>>>         P.O.
>>>>>>>>>>>>         Box 141049
>>>>>>>>>>>>         Dallas,
>>>>>>>>>>>>         TX 75214
>>>>>>>>>>>>         (214)
>>>>>>>>>>>>         360-0865
>>>>>>>>>>>>         �
>>>>>>>>>>>>         �
>>>>>>>>>>>>         CC:� Gene Mallove,
>>>>>>>>>>>>         Infinite
>>>>>>>>>>>>         Energy
>>>>>>>>>>>>         CC:� Dr. John
>>>>>>>>>>>>         Bockris, Texas
>>>>>>>>>>>>         A/M
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         On 10/28/2018 1:01 AM,
>>>>>>>>>>>>         Jakob Wall
>>>>>>>>>>>>         wall_jakob@... <mailto:wall_jakob@...>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         �
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         Thanks Norman,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         BTW, what is the most effective water split
>>>>>>>>>>>>         device that
>>>>>>>>>>>>         you ever put you hands on?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         As HHO researcher for dekades you should be
>>>>>>>>>>>>         able to point
>>>>>>>>>>>>         us directly to the most effective known!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         Please be specific about reconstruction of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>         same, since
>>>>>>>>>>>>         we are in public domain it will become public
>>>>>>>>>>>>         knowledge
>>>>>>>>>>>>         and public good. I assume you intend nothing
>>>>>>>>>>>>         else,rigth ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         --------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         On Sat, 10/27/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:nwootan@...>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         [EVGRAY]
>>>>>>>>>>>>         <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's
>>>>>>>>>>>>         Magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>>         Battery [3 Attachments]
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         To: "Bert Pool" <BertPool512@...>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         <mailto:BertPool512@...>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>         "Bob
>>>>>>>>>>>>         Paddock" <bob.paddock@...> <mailto:bob.paddock@...>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>         "joel mcclain"
>>>>>>>>>>>>         <joel_76670@....> <mailto:joel_76670@...>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>         "Jon Gentry"
>>>>>>>>>>>>         <jongen422@....> <mailto:jongen422@...>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>         "Lane Wootan"
>>>>>>>>>>>>         <lanewootan@...> <mailto:lanewootan@...>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>         "Mbking42"
>>>>>>>>>>>>         <mbking42@....> <mailto:mbking42@....>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>         "Toby Grotz"
>>>>>>>>>>>>         <wireless2@....> <mailto:wireless2@...>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>         "Phil Rembold"
>>>>>>>>>>>>         <prembold@....> <mailto:prembold@....>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>         "Angel Alvarez"
>>>>>>>>>>>>         <angel@...> <mailto:angel@...>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>         "Fredric Fletcher"
>>>>>>>>>>>>         <ffletcher@....> <mailto:ffletcher@...>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>         [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         To understand the unwinding of a thread
>>>>>>>>>>>>         leading
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         to Magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         Generating Hydrogen and this Magnetic Battery,
>>>>>>>>>>>>         we have
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         to dust off
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         our� 9th grade Chemistry Books!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         http://www.rexresearch.com/ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm�����
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         I guess Dr.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         Ehrenhaft was the first to propose a Magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>>>         Current.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         (Jon
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         Gentry, Your liquid metal vortex helix).
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         https://revolution-green.com/can-electrolysis-powered-magnets/������
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         Ah! Ha!� more on Magnetic Currents!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446..html
>>>>>>>>>>>>         <https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446.html>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         https://www.labmanager.com/white-papers-and-application-notes/2010/05/resistivity-conductivity-measurement-of-purified-water#.W9So9uJRc2w
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         https://www.askiitians.com/forums/Physical-Chemistry/19/19074/electro-che
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpotential
>>>>>>>>>>>>         <https://en.m..wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpotential>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         https://www.quora.com/Why-is-oxygen-molecule-paramagnetic-although-it-does-not-contain-any-unpaired-electron
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251580541_The_effect_of_magnetic_force_on_hydrogen_production_efficiency_in_water_electrolysis
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         http://www.physicscentral.com/experiment/physicsathome/electricwhirlpool.cfm
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         http://www.linux-host.org/energy/bmagpump.htm
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         Now Jon Gentry you have your liquid metal pump
>>>>>>>>>>>>         so
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         that you can
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         make the helix tube Vortex!�
>>>>>>>>>>>>         Ferricpetacarbonyl or
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         micro fine neo
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         powder to provide the liquid metal for pump
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         circuit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         Lots of reading here!���� Please think
>>>>>>>>>>>>         about the
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         ramifications of
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>         a Magnetic Current as proposed by Dr.
>>>>>>>>>>>>         Ehrenhaft!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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2018-11-12T00:42:53+00:00 · bart woodard <[email protected]>
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Mick,

            Your left over residue sounds interesting, kind of like a negative charged sludge pollack talks about from Hardy!

Does your distiller have nafion nano tubes !? lol

Just sounding off here , but everclear is a grain alcohol of 75 %, RO has residue ppm usually 2 to 4

Try a different grain alcohol and use distilled for cleaning, see what happens. Run it twice ,let it cool down to room temp then again to see its leftovers.

My background?  Hmmm  how best to describe.

I am old enough to have afforded most mistakes and to find a way to have some  recovery for more!

Aircraft engineering  back ground. Real estate renos and flipping primarily as of late .   Made boat loads and spent boat loads mostly on my families educations and lives.

So little in financial strength remaining.

While always holding an interest in quackeries and the results of.

I have had several good labs and have lost most due to thievery, floods and fires.

It all takes its toll , my interests are weaning off!

Would like to pick up a small farm so as to exercise values.

The wife is asking if there are farms in the city! lol

I said yes , its called the city of farms! ha ha

As far as the cops and rcmp guys  , well they have their own world . Some of them are already doing grows I hear.

There application of thoughts are in the adaption to change attitude, a go with the times thing.

They said the criminals have been laughing at them for years after being arrested  then in a short time the criminals fly by them in exotic sports cars

live in high standard homes and have high end race boats and so on.

I really do not care much about them  all, only they are people as well I guess.

I only mentioned them because of reference to the social changes we are enduring.

Its federal here so institutions are looking at the financial end as well.

When your world you are in and all around are evolving , then the best you can do is maintain your own best and if you feel it so, then adapt .

Yes its the new old gold rush here. Of course there will be gains and losses. Your info will be helpful , thankyou.

As far as what type of grow!!   Its still out on the decision ,I am considering several small tents with different applications checking different values.

What ever I do it will be inside with a controlled environment.

The permit requires 24/7 security with a full log on all activity. Disposals , separate rooms for containment etc.

So you will need a security company which is another reason I am chatting it up with the neighbors.

According to the chat I had with the government office, you can be all values  research, wholesaler, processor, dispensary etc.

they are also ushering in edibles. So ya , its our first stage of stupidity.

I do not know what strain , I would like to design my own using the crispr methods.

Spectrum values enhanced etc. Photon charges sustained in a stable like enviro etc.

Master growers could be anybody really Mick. More difficult with out academic back ground but still doable I suppose.

None of this is really new as you know , its really just coming to the opening where at least now we can benefit in an open environment for discussions.










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Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery [1 Attachment]



Bart,

Yes the magnet that creates the vortex, since this water absorbs anything I am concerned about the teflon but that is really inert at low temps so probably no big thing.

No the distiller is clean as a whistle, cleaned with everclear and lots of RO water.   It's something odd that feels wetter and thicker than normal water a slight oilyness has a super faint flowery smell and a super faint salt taste, only a few drops at the bottom each time.  Will send out for a mass spec when I collect enough.

So what is your background or normal gig?

Trichrome amounts are very strain related but also can be induced with natural nitrogen sources, selective wavelengths of light and selective CO2 concentrations all depending on the plants lifecycle phase.  A good grow depends on lots of quality water and lots of quality water and dont forget lots of quality water, lots of light and temperature stability.  Most people who smoke prefer dirt grown over hydro because of better taste.  For fastest production line would likely result from dwarf genetics and aeroponics.  Mist growing beats hydroponic as the roots can function more naturally with gas exchange.
Down here some people are making concentrates where all the terpenes have been removed down to a clear THC oil and a few other things fractioned with chromatography then they are replacing the terpenes based on the end flavor intent often using terpenes from other plants such as citrus.  Waaaay too unnatural but it has gotten this weird already.  I have been told most of the terpenes are bioidentical with other plants but have not researched this claim.

Also down here the Indian reservations are getting ready to begin large scale operations that may further reduce farmer profits as they will be licensed to sell interstate.  Likely the big tobacco companies will be partnering with the Indians.  In the end the government only cares about how much tax they can revenue so laws will be generated to bolster this function above other concerns.

I hope those RCMP are not ones who arrested pot users before else they are definitely ethically challenged and should not be involved in any business venture as potential partners.  Successful long term businesses rely on high ethics and no passive aggressive personalities.

I wonder who will instruct in these "Master Grower" courses, old time hippie black market growers who probably know the most from years of practice or a bunch of scientists who think they know the most from memorizing books...  Good to have plant geneticists though, have any of these specialists worked with cannabis before and if so how long?   The biochem people will be amazing for the concentrates market.

Interesting how the Universities are already becoming the expert source on something very few were allowed to research without a rigamarole of gov licensing.  As usual "we take ze money Lebowski"

Speaking of money down here banking is the main problem for this business since it's federally illegal they are not allowed normal business loans and access to lines of credit such as bridging loans.

I think in the end the processors may do better than most except the best farmers.


On 11/10/2018 9:49 PM, bart woodard [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:


It may be possible the saponins you mentioned are some cleaning agent lodged in your distiller..

Try boiling lines fittings etc.




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Bart,

Sorry meant to say saponins

On 11/10/2018 3:44 PM, bart woodard [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:


Mick,

   I use all glass(general) in all of of my process , from start to consumption.

As far as carcinogenics go, I roll with it mostly. As the body flushes it out at this size.dark field analyses.

You can check ec

As the parts per billion are not inductive to any negative value in compilation.

Under any lab results   the values go off the charts so I have been mostly doing

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark-field_microscopy

[https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f3/Dark_field_and_phase_contrast_microscopies.ogv/1200px--Dark_field_and_phase_contrast_microscopies.ogv.jpg]<https://en..wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark-field_microscopy>

Dark-field microscopy - Wikipedia<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark-field_microscopy>
en.wikipedia.org
Dark-field microscopy is a very simple yet effective technique and well suited for uses involving live and unstained biological samples, such as a smear from a tissue culture or individual, water-borne, single-celled organisms. Considering the simplicity of the setup, the quality of images obtained from this technique is impressive.

at home under my own microscope, checking positive values with negative values in comparisons. been doing this for years now.

Even with some people consider this bull , it does have a valid outcome with exercise of repetitive work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mg21897IW_4

[https://www.bing.com/th?id=OVP.GHl_nbO52EtaT7fiPEpA_QEsDh&pid=Api]<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mg21897IW_4>

Live Blood Analysis Dark Field Microscopy explained<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mg21897IW_4>
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Dark Field Microscopy Live Blood Analysis explained like never before

Any values that gets through are of good results as proven by results.  When we refect positive intent we get the same.

As far as deposits collected at the bottom of you vessel, it could be gold or copper pending on colour .  or sludge build of a dominated mineral.

Mounatous  regions can have anything as plates push everything.  All water tables run every and anywhere. It can be a good coloidal value.

Certain plants thrive on different minerals, check the vegitation results in your area.

         sapogens ?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapogenin

[https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c0/Yamogenin.svg/1200px-Yamogenin.svg.png]<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapogenin>

Sapogenin - Wikipedia<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapogenin>
en.wikipedia.org
Sapogenins are the aglycones, or non-saccharide, portions of the family of natural products known as saponins.Sapogenins contain steroid or other triterpene frameworks as their key organic feature. For example, steroidal sapogenins such as tiggenin, neogitogenin, and tokorogenin have been isolated from the tubers of Chlorophytum arundinaceum. Some steroidal sapogenins can serve as a practical ...

I am recently looking at starting what is called a micro growing operation for cannabis here in Canada.

The prof is here because he feels we can play with research regarding the enhancement of cbd and the thc levels regarding the dna enhancements.

So I have been looking to purchase a farm. The returns on a yearly basis are impressive  1.5  4.5 mill. based on 600 kilos.

Open for offers for any one.

As far as Norms water device , it is a soft application making use of the nonferrite mags. Good stuff!

It creates a gentle enhancement on charges all arround for organs , skin , hair, eyes etc.


Hopefully some value for you!

Bart

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Bart,

Tell your friend-Even if ethically swayed by grant money, professors can be human too, or maybe long ago they once were.

Is there any procedure you utilize to determine if the ghost elements are carcinogenic or not?

What is the best material for the magnetic stirrer?

I think many are polyethylene coated due to it's inert nature.

I recently acquired this water distiller. I have seen these used in two places with tap water in Southern California and the crap on the bottom stunk and was brown and crusty.  When I use the distiller with my processed water the bottom of the unit is clean but for a few drop of something I have been collecting in a glass.   We live in Oregon in the mountains not near any old mines or chemical sites so the water is pretty pristine except for a high concentration of minerals and manganese.

The stuff left in the distiller has a flowery smell so I think it make be sapogens from plants or oils from minerals, maybe just info fields trying to recombine.

On 11/10/2018 12:31 PM, bart woodard [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:


Hi Mick,

  Well needless to say... you are charged lol!

All water from any where has different values with different mineral combinations.

So whether its been RO then distilled it will still continue with carrying its trace like (ghost)  elements. You are only looking at ppm or parts per million.

Not parts per billion and so on. Some say parts per google!

Unfortunately most will be carcinogenic due to its weight like or charges needed to extend itself  tho not all will.

Even so with the stirrer the vortex will create an implosion enhancing the ghost like values remaining.

The molecule will become broken down to several sizes smaller , lets say 5 times approximately or less or greater than.

The four principles of play come in effect.

The Four Fundamental Forces and their strengths

  *   Gravitational Force – Weakest force; but infinite range. ( Not part of standard model)
  *   Weak Nuclear Force – Next weakest; but short range.
  *   Electromagnetic Force – Stronger, with infinite range.
  *   Strong Nuclear Force – Strongest; but short range.

With in the molecule it has a characteristic tendency so as not to enhance its ph factor with straight on electrical simulated charges.

We can not for now mimic the frequency  water likes to evolve to sustain itself at keeping it at a stabilized value with in.

So circuit wise or electronically it is only a short life the ph may be increased . Tho I have not ventured out lately.

Its been several years for me so forgive my sloppy answers on recalling the research done.

Magnetic values are best used for the best overall out come. The molecule stabilizes itself after a would be spike ( Brownian Motion).

Distilled that's  acidic at 6.2  can be elevated to 7.4 after it hits 8.5 or so give or take.

It can stabilize itself to 7.4 which is where I like it to be for consumption.

Tap water, well water etc will go to ammonia like, say right up to 14- 15- ph.

Good for paint stripping lol.

So distilled @ 0 ppm  will go to 3ppm or more as well as the ph increase.

I do not want to use RO as its values can be anywhere.

The clustering effect has all the values as in one make up volume.

So you get it all , all charges , but mostly enhanced as our body only keeps the larger values and discharges the unwanted ones .

We discharge positive and maintain negative values.

In another words you get it all good with the bad. But still better than a too high ph value as this can burn your cilia and enzymes

with all and good and bad acids in digestion values.

Our mitochondria will only accept values approx one micron , so water at five or more times smaller hydrates our cells more easily.

Thus delivering any value needed to cells requiring assistance.

Hope this has some value some-wheres lol

As I said its been a while.

Bart

PS  A prof just showed up while I am typing this laughing at me .

        He says to add that the sun feels symbiotic to earth as it senses we are out of sync so its releasing more flares.

I told him its the hydrogen intent! lol



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Bart,

Your information including on your cat is very interesting.  I have been using distilled water that is first softened and then RO  then distilled beginning from my well.   It has a similar "drying" effect as norms wholly water though not as pronounced.

Could you please provide more information on your experiments concerning distilled water and using the magnetic stirrer and how that alkalizes the water?   The NMR and parahydrogen post if very long winded so difficult for me to get the gist of your presentation.

Thanks,

Mick

On 11/10/2018 10:37 AM, bart woodard [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:


I use a magnetic stirrer with distilled and wait for the ph to rise, the results are immediate.

https://hannainst.com/hi190m-1-magnetic-mini-stirrer.html

Mini Magnetic Stirrer (115V) - HI190M-1 - Hanna Instruments<https://hannainst.com/hi190m-1-magnetic-mini-stirrer.html>
hannainst.com
Compact. Lightweight. This mini magnetic stirrer with plastic cover can stir up to 1 liter. Big power, small footprint. Perfect for any lab!




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Sent: November 10, 2018 12:34 PM
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No!� Bart, never got into that exotic element stuff!� Just followed those that were!

On 11/10/2018 10:42 AM, bart woodard [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
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Hey Norm , your life's experiences have been fruitful!! Congrats!!

Have you ever played with table top combinations� such as thorium and fluoride or the molten salt combo?

On a hobbyist� basis approach?

Rossi likes to inject nickel/mag� powder so as I see to maintain his 1k output!.

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Sent: November 9, 2018 3:12 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery [2 Attachments]
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Mick! To answer the rest of your questions:� In that ARC process you have to use carbon rods to yield the carbon monoxide & hydrogen.� (carbon source) (arc is heat source).

Holy Water was interesting part of the Elemental Replication experiment. See:�

Elemental Replication ?

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����� Around mid September I put together an electrolysis cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold Fusion Cell with the goal of exploring the possibilities of making what is termed �Pristine Water�.�� This water which will be used by Homeopaths will have had all memory or information removed.� This is accomplished by recombining monatomic hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated in a properly designed cell.� This is the ultimate in purity since this is water with conditions at the time of original creation.� �Wholy Water�is a term coined by my dear friend and fellow researcher Joe Tyls of Vancouver, BC.�� After several weeks of successful operation producing water that had all the earmarks of a true �pristine water� a fellow researcher suggested using an alternate electrolyte.�� A solution was selected that contained 77 colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the easiest assimilated into the body.�� With the electrolyte changed the cell was put back into operation as before with a nice recombination burn and production of the sought after �pristine water�.���


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Blood viscosity is a measure of the resistance of blood to flow. It can also be described as the thickness and stickiness of blood. This biophysical property makes it a critical determinant of friction against the vessel walls, the rate of venous return, the work required for the heart to pump blood, and how much oxygen is transported to tissues and organs.


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On 11/8/2018 4:29 PM, Mick [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
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Hi Norm,

The catalysts are very interesting.� Iron Cobalt and Nickel all ferromagnetic but at different spins.

Correct me if I am wrong but based on reading your links a bingofuel type reactor using tungsten electrodes that hopefully would last much longer would likely produce OH rather than H and carbon monoxide, what do you think?

Also water is strange indeed in that a pyramid or orgone accumulator changes it and these simple changes could make for water that breaks up more easily.� I would love to know what results you demonstrated with the totally juvenile memory free water you put back together from the OH?�

Sorry to hear about your neck fracture, I have a similar issue and it is extremely painful and debilitating at times.

Mick

On 11/7/2018 4:15 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
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On 11/7/2018 6:06 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:

Jakob Wall! & all other researchers on here need to read the Whole Story as to why I no longer have a research lab.� Jakob, I'm sorry I did not reveal to you the BEST in my opinion of methods of producing hydrogen gas for I felt it was a little too advanced and difficult for you to experiment with.� See: https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en .�� There is a very long story behind this US Patent and a hell of a lot of research. The quest for a very inexpensive method of splitting water has been the Holy Grail of� cheap energy.�� In addition to the research papers and links that I gave to you, here are some more to dwell on.

https://www.researchgate.net/post/At_what_temperature_water_will_decompose_to_Oxygen_and_Hydrogen<https://www..researchgate.net/post/At_what_temperature_water_will_decompose_to_Oxygen_and_Hydrogen>

https://www.quora.com/Does-water-break-down-into-oxygen-and-hydrogen-at-high-temperatures-If-so-then-at-what-temperature<https://www..quora.com/Does-water-break-down-into-oxygen-and-hydrogen-at-high-temperatures-If-so-then-at-what-temperature>

https://www.quora.com/How-much-water-can-you-split-into-hydrogen-and-oxygen-using-electrolysis-with-one-kilowatt-hour-of-electricity<https://www..quora.com/How-much-water-can-you-split-into-hydrogen-and-oxygen-using-electrolysis-with-one-kilowatt-hour-of-electricity>

http://www.redrok.com/hion96a1.htm

https://www.nature.com/articles/nplants201741<https://www..nature.com/articles/nplants201741>�� Please read carefully about the play of Nickel in this approach!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_splitting

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water-gas_shift_reaction��� I owned 77 acres of land in Eureka Springs, AR where they still had the old water gas generator and gas storage facility.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decarboxylation

https://phys.org/news/2018-02-uncovers-mechanism-water-splitting-catalyst.html

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/new-catalyst-could-split-water-cheaply/<https://www..scientificamerican.com/article/new-catalyst-could-split-water-cheaply/>

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/512996/a-cheaper-way-to-make-hydrogen-from-water/<https://www..technologyreview.com/s/512996/a-cheaper-way-to-make-hydrogen-from-water/>

"SUPER STEAM - A Tesla conference in Colorado surfaces new Super Steam Technology (SST). Leonard Dorsett and friends from Texas share strikingly similar views to Aquarian Agency Ltd. They have technology which produces steam instantly at up to 3,000F without a boiler and with 60% savings in fuel over traditional boilers. Nitrogen rich, it can put out gasoline fires and treat many waste problems. Of major importance to Aquarian, this nitrogen-rich steam will help to produce heat and Aquastone at considerable savings."

For further information on Aquarian Agency Ltd. they can be contacted at 38 Weir Rd, Wimbledon, London SW19 SUG, England or on Internet at <aquarian ocign.ape.org>. SUPER STEAM TECHNOLOGY PART 2[http://astrosa.com/n95/n059501.gif]

Leonard Dorsett (PO Box 365, Grapevine, TX 76092) demonstrated his Super Steam Technology at the 1994 International Tesla Symposium. SST is a system for producing steam at any temperature or pressure independently and instantly without the need for a conventional boiler. It can instantly produce steam of any temperature from hot water at 180F to super heated steam at over 3000F, while pressures can vary from 1PSI to 3000PSI with airflow volumes of 1CFM up to over 2000CFM. The system operates on propane, methane, petrol, kerosene, methanol, diesel, hydrogen or just about anything else that bums and converts virtually 100% of the fuel into usable energy. (Note: The person in the picture is Norman Wootan of MRA fame)

This all sounds great, but how does it work? The basis of the unit is a specially designed open throat chamber with controlled air, water and fuel interaction and a high voltage ignition resulting in a direct fire process establishing thermal zones. This creates a stoichiometric condition resulting in a full spectrum of steam product. Now comes the interesting part At the increased temperatures of steam, disassociation occurs. (Could this be a clue to running cars on water??) The hydrogen and oxygen reacts causing an exponential increase of energy resulting in super heated steam. A similar superheat process was addressed by Tesla in the October 12, 1911 publication of the "Engineering News Record".

Applications of the SST system include a much more economical way of producing electricity as no conventional boiler is needed. It will also be an ideal low cost method for heating and cooling homes and businesses. Small portable units can be developed for home use, such as steam cleaning, and insect and ant removal, without the dangers of insecticides. The system can also be used for low cost purification of polluted water or sewerage and can also convert salt water into drinking water both quickly and inexpensively. Other uses are in fire fighting applications, ice and snow removal from roads, etc. and sterilization and nurturing of soil for agriculture where contamination has occurred.

I had designed a method of making hydrogen from carbon & water vapor using the Tesla Atomic Bombardment method of high frequency inside of spherical inclosure like this experiments with the carbon button lamp globes.�� After working with Leonard Dorsett and his Super Steam Project, I chose to use the Water Shift Process instead.� A side note is needed here!� The Super Steam Process was a result of Professor Brown studying the method the German's used for torpedo propulsion from WWI.� Acetylene Gas and sea water produced an exothermic reaction generating Super Steam. Brown built several reactors and tested them in the Tulsa area to break (down hole) the parafin deposits to release crude oil.

The Chemical equation for the reaction in the US Patent: https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en

(6C + 12 H2O� = 6CO2 + 24H)

Hydrogen Reactor Development

�

Original concept design was a high voltage, high frequency resonant device that utilized carbon water reaction with the feedstock being in the form of graphite rod stock.� This unit was designed for vehicle application and had too many limitations to be used for mass hydrogen generation.� This type reactor is very effective at hydrogen production since it targets the water vapor molecule at MRI frequencies, which breaks the bonding, allowing the carbon to latch onto the oxygen atoms leaving the hydrogen free. This device was a closed system that used a simple CO2/hydrogen separation stage that enabled the hydrogen to be feed to an internal combustion engine.

�

To allow for a sustained high mass flow of hydrogen gas output, reactor design took on a radical change.� By incorporating the Ranque/Hilsch, Counter Flow Implosion Vortex Principle, and continuous high mass flow and gas separation were achieved in one stage of operation.� Feedstock for this type reactor could be any carbon-based material that could be put into a powder form.� Highest carbon content of the feedstock provides for the most efficient hydrogen production with the least undesirable output material.

�

Super high temperature operating regime was chosen to be above 2500 C for the purpose of producing atomic hydrogen in the process.� The original reactor operated at temperatures that easily gasified basic carbon into a plasma state (>10,000 F) more easily allowing the production of hydrogen from the stoichiometric feed stock ratios.


[cid:[email protected]]

I sold one of my Patents (Sonodiffuser) and paid for my 52 acres of land and built a 5200 sq. Ft. lab the do the Prototype machining and Proof of Concept testing for GAZPROM, Moscow in 2005. A $1.2 million investment and they got the rights to the process and I got the beautiful Research Lab all paid in full. I was a self employed Contractor in Dallas working with HVAC, Electrical and Electronics Maintenance so had to commute 170 miles/day and only had the week ends for my time! Having to mow grass and maintane the 52 acres took all my time and when I suffered a neck fracture in 2012, had to retire. Liquidated the entire facility and sold it off. Moved to Dallas then to South Louisiana where I now do a lot of relaxing and fishing!

Hector and ALL, I did my time in the Barrel so now I will just contribute to the dialog inorder to assist any research you may be doing within my area of experitise!���� BTW! I have been out to pasture for a long time now, so no BULL offense!� As Hector knows, "It fits"! Lol



[cid:[email protected]]

Yes! Hector, I will wear my Border Patrol Hat when you come visit from PR!� Lol




On 11/6/2018 8:52 PM, [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
�

By the way ... i can hit mega millions or the power ball� . i never will not have a lab i can work in,� that is worst than death , you have no idea of the technology that had being lost by the greedy fucking bastards fucking my life , they will loose all they have� "soon" because it had being engineered that way by accumulative bad karma, i have another lab they will never reach or be able to intercept or destroy and that will decide their fate ..... they will be fucked hard !



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---In [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>, <mkjekyll@...><mailto:mkjekyll@...> wrote :


Cmon Hector,

Bad taste!

The man had a more serious lab than anyone else here and his work speaks for itself.� Maybe he has gained the fortune he desired through R&D and now shitting in tall cotton or gone fishing reaping the rewards of retirement. Notwithstanding is still kind enough to help point us in the right directions around here.

"Funny�I can look back on a life of achievement, on challenges met, competitors bested, obstacles overcome. I�ve accomplished more than most men, and without the use of my legs. What?What makes a man, Mr. Lebowski?"

On 11/6/2018 8:04 AM, arkresearch@...<mailto:arkresearch@....> [EVGRAY] wrote:
�

Dar n ! a Scientist inventor with no lab is like a breeding bull with no balls !

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---In [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>, <nwootan@...><mailto:nwootan@...> wrote :


Jacob! You asked me a question and I gave you my opinion!� I'm totally retired at 80 years old and have no lab to experiment in!� Your quote; I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. '' Slow down boy, we get paid for llooking for solutions, not to find them!''�� That certainly does not apply to me for I have shared all with the folks on this site.� I find you statement very interesting:� Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours with usual amount of gas looks to me extremely inefficient.�� ??????������� Care to share where you saw the power of a permanent magnet being used up!�� We all here on this site share what ever knowledge we have on the various subjects not seeking any monetary gain in any way! That is my approach!�� I just contribute to the dialog when I run across something interesting and think it will assist you guys!�� Norm

On 11/3/2018 11:32 PM, Jakob Wall wall_jakob@...<mailto:wall_jakob@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
�

Thanks Norman,
But i actually asced for ''most efficient way'' to split water known to you!
I realize there are a lot of different technigues to do just that.
And yes i realize you could give me a rather complex answer. But instead i hope for a
rather easy and reproductive answer since i am looking forward to solve my enerrgy
problems i just can not live with the momentary (sad and very stupid energy situation)
I am still not giving up becouse of a couple mistakes and misunderstandings.....
If i would be a car dealer and you would ask me for a most efficient car available on the market
i would for sure not recommend a Prius, since there are a lot of cars with better fuel economie
even without being a hybrid and without additional cost like batterys,e-motors and a bunch added ECU's

Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours with usual amount of gas looks to me extremely
inefficient.
Also very expensive HHO-Garage products with output of 1,6 ltr/min.
Come on, 6 rusty nails and a old car batery does this job, no need to spend 1600 bucks on it.
I honestly expected solide advise or a honest NO way boy, i just talking around.

I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. '' Slow down boy, we get paid for llooking for
solutions, not to find them!'' That shoked me deeply and even if i get 150 years old, i will not forget it.
Thats true treason on mankind and deciving the people. I really hope nobody on this forum only care
about what he/she will be doing tomorrow.

Jakob

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On Sun, 10/28/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@...<mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]> wrote:

Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>, "Bert Pool" <BertPool512@...><mailto:BertPool512@...>, "Bob Paddock" <bob.paddock@...><mailto:bob.paddock@...>, "joel mcclain" <joel_76670@...><mailto:joel_76670@...>, "Jon Gentry" <jongen422@...><mailto:jongen422@...>, "Mbking42" <mbking42@...><mailto:mbking42@...>, "Toby Grotz" <wireless2@...><mailto:wireless2@...>, "Phil Rembold" <prembold@...><mailto:prembold@...>, "Angel Alvarez" <angel@...><mailto:angel@...>, "Fredric Fletcher" <ffletcher@...><mailto:ffletcher@...>
Received: Sunday, October 28, 2018, 9:44 AM


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Jacob!� That would be a rather complex answer
but here is your
starting point!
https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct-thermomagnetic-splitting-of-water-.html���
After having been heavily involved in the COLD FUSION
Research
back in the 70s and 80s I quickly settled o0n the best
catalyst in
electrolytic cells which is pure nickel. I still have
the cell
used in the Elemental Replication experiments.


http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm����
The hidden
part of this research is the use of a nickel component
in the
combustion chamber. Bosch developed 90,000V ignition
systems to
enable water injection in gas engine which high
lighted the
Graneau HV decomposition of water via HVDC
discharge!
My magnetic Battery when run as an electrolytic cell
to produce
hydrogen does produce a huge amount of hydrogen gas as
shown by
the Dr. Ehrenhaft document.� I would tell you to
pursue the super
high Tesla magnetic flux and nickel electrodes in an
electrolytic
cell.� The major obstacle to be overcome is the rapid
collection
of ions from solution by the 1.3 Tesla flux across a
.....020"
mechanical gap which quickly takes the cell into a
super-conduction mode which takes out the driving DC
power supply.
You can flush the magnetic gaps with distilled water
and the gaps
will show in the meg-ohm range then go to zero ohms
after a short
period of running, the gathered ions totally short
cell. During
the brief runs there is a huge amount of hydrogen gas
produced�
which I burned off as it was generated.� Much can be
said about
driving the cell with high frequencies as the Myers
research
showed.� Our friend up in Canada at George Wiseman,
Eagle Research
is running well ahead of the crowd on the production
of H-H-O.
Just for giggles!


16 October
1996
To: Hal
Fox,� Fusion Facts
Elemental
Replication ?
�
����� Around mid
September
I put together an
electrolysis cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold
Fusion Cell
with the goal of
exploring the possibilities of making what is
termed �Pristine
Water�.�� This water
which will be used by Homeopaths
will have had all memory or information
removed.� This is accomplished by
recombining monatomic
hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated in a
properly
designed cell.� This is
the ultimate in purity since this is
water with conditions at the time of original
creation.� �Holly Water�is a term
coined by my dear
friend and fellow researcher Joe Tyls of
Vancouver, BC.�� After several weeks of
successful operation
producing water that had all the earmarks of a
true �pristine
water� a fellow
researcher suggested using an alternate
electrolyte.�� A solution was selected
that contained 77
colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the
easiest
assimilated into the
body.�� With the
electrolyte changed the
cell was put back into operation as before with a
nice
recombination burn and
production of the sought after �pristine
water�.�������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������
�������
��� After about an
hour of
operation the cell
went absolutely �nuts� with the temperature
rapidly climbing
to boiling point
and the current out of sight.�
When the
cell was opened we found a deep red sludge deposit
which
shorted the cell
plates.�� Our first
thought was that the
electrolytic action precipitated out the colloidal
minerals
which caused the
deposit found.�� The�
electrolyte was allowed
to settle out the
precipitate.�� After�
decanting off,� the clear electrolyte
was
returned to the
cell for another run. Again the cell operated
normally for
about an hour with a
normal recombination burn and recovery of the
water being
consumed by the cell
in the splitting action.�� Again
the cell
temperature and current mirrored the first
run.�
Again the cell contained the same amount of
sludge
residue.�� This process
was repeated ten (10) times
with exactly the same results.��
All of
the sludge was carefully dried and weighed on an
electronic
scale with a five
decimal
resolution.���������������������
The cell plates and all hardware were
weighed to
determine any loss of
mass that may contribute to the mass gain observed
in the
sludge.� Five hundred
(500) ml of the original
electrolyte solution used in the cell was vacuum
distilled to
determine the
exact mass of colloidal minerals
contained.�
When all factors were considered we came
out with a
mass gain of� 48 gm
which cannot be explained by
conventional
electrolysis.����������������������

��� After talking
to Dr.
Robert Bass and Hal
Fox I learned of a patent that has been filed on
the
transmutation of elements
in the cold fusion cell which is the process that
Dr. John
Bockris has been so
active in.�� Both Dr.
Bass and Hal Fox
stated that what I was observing is not the same
as the
transmutation observed
in the cold fusion cell since I have a overall
mass gain and
not a lateral
movement of elements in the periodic table toward
lighter
elements with a
resulting heat release.� This
unusual
cell operation has caused quite a reaction in the
scientific
community. �At this
time I have built a complete new cell
with every possible factor which could possibly
explain the
mass gain
considered and documented.� The
ten (10)
consecutive runs on the new cell will be completed
soon and a
report will be
forthcoming.�� What is
interesting about
this phenomenon is that when an eleventh run was
made with the
original
electrolyte exactly the same amount of residue was
recovered
as in the previous
ten
runs.�����������������������������������������������������������������������

�
Since
the same electrolyte is reused each time with only
distilled
water being added
to replace the volume lost by the removal of the
solids and
the water recovered
by the recombination burn we are hard pressed to
explain the
observed
phenomenon.���� The
electrolyte appears
stronger in mineral concentration and shows no
sign of

depletion.��������������������������������

�� After conferring
with
Joe Tyls we arrived at
the conclusion that the 77 colloidal minerals
contained in the
electrolyte
provide the atomic templates needed for the
monatomic hydrogen
(father of all
the elements) to replicate selected elements in
this exotic
mixture.� If you
subscribe to the theories of the late
Walter Russell and his explanation of the octave
based
periodic table with
monatonic hydrogen being what he describes as
hydrons
(precursor to hydrogen)
then it is possible for the replication of
elements directly
from energy input
alone.� This is how all
matter was
created in the beginning as described by
Schappeller in �The
Physics of the
Primary State of Matter�.��� I
will keep
all informed as to our progress and findings in
this very
intriguing venture.
�
Norman
Wootan
P.O.
Box 141049
Dallas,
TX 75214
(214)
360-0865
�
�
CC:� Gene Mallove,
Infinite
Energy
CC:� Dr. John
Bockris, Texas
A/M






On 10/28/2018 1:01 AM,
Jakob Wall
wall_jakob@...<mailto:wall_jakob@...>
[EVGRAY] wrote:




�


Thanks Norman,



BTW, what is the most effective water split
device that
you ever put you hands on?

As HHO researcher for dekades you should be
able to point
us directly to the most effective known!

Please be specific about reconstruction of the
same, since
we are in public domain it will become public
knowledge
and public good. I assume you intend nothing
else,rigth ?


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On Sat, 10/27/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@...<mailto:nwootan@...>
[EVGRAY]
<[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>
wrote:



Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's
Magnetic
Battery [3 Attachments]

To: "Bert Pool" <BertPool512@...><mailto:BertPool512@...>,
"Bob
Paddock" <bob.paddock@...><mailto:bob.paddock@...>,
"joel mcclain"
<joel_76670@....><mailto:joel_76670@...>,
"Jon Gentry"
<jongen422@....><mailto:jongen422@...>,
"Lane Wootan"
<lanewootan@...><mailto:lanewootan@...>,
"Mbking42"
<mbking42@....><mailto:mbking42@....>,
"Toby Grotz"
<wireless2@....><mailto:wireless2@...>,
"Phil Rembold"
<prembold@....><mailto:prembold@....>,
"Angel Alvarez"
<angel@...><mailto:angel@...>,
"Fredric Fletcher"
<ffletcher@....><mailto:ffletcher@...>,
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

To understand the unwinding of a thread
leading

to Magnetic

Generating Hydrogen and this Magnetic Battery,
we have

to dust off

our� 9th grade Chemistry Books!

http://www.rexresearch.com/ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm�����

I guess Dr.

Ehrenhaft was the first to propose a Magnetic
Current.

(Jon

Gentry, Your liquid metal vortex helix).

https://revolution-green.com/can-electrolysis-powered-magnets/������

Ah! Ha!� more on Magnetic Currents!!!

https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446..html<https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446.html>

https://www.labmanager.com/white-papers-and-application-notes/2010/05/resistivity-conductivity-measurement-of-purified-water#.W9So9uJRc2w

https://www.askiitians.com/forums/Physical-Chemistry/19/19074/electro-che

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpotential<https://en.m..wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpotential>

https://www.quora.com/Why-is-oxygen-molecule-paramagnetic-although-it-does-not-contain-any-unpaired-electron

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251580541_The_effect_of_magnetic_force_on_hydrogen_production_efficiency_in_water_electrolysis

http://www.physicscentral.com/experiment/physicsathome/electricwhirlpool.cfm

http://www.linux-host.org/energy/bmagpump.htm

Now Jon Gentry you have your liquid metal pump
so

that you can

make the helix tube Vortex!�
Ferricpetacarbonyl or

micro fine neo

powder to provide the liquid metal for pump

circuit.

Lots of reading here!���� Please think
about the

ramifications of

a Magnetic Current as proposed by Dr.
Ehrenhaft!























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Hi Bart

Thanks for all your posts and contributions here!!

Worst thing to look out for in grow operations is gangs (russian bikers mexicans chinese vietnamese etc etc etc) finding where is grow operation then breaking in and stealing everything as soon as.its ready for market. What are you going to do shoot everyone?  Cops can be  put in caatevory of gangs too, they are corrupt everywhere in world, carry guns, look out for only themselves get away with.murder all the time.
Let those guys with small army private army do the growing you could provide technical expertise...look into putting neodymium magnet under roots of plants.. pot itself not so bad but what they will dip the shitty leftover in is what is fucked up  formaldahyde (aka dank) , meth, heroin, opium, speed, evev viagra wbo knows what is in the shit...legal is good since you know what it is at least but those already established illegal pot growers are pissed when it goes legal and will break in and steal no problem if site becomes known...in your town I think is biker gangs controlling weed market...biker gangs and cops sometimes symbiotic
Kone
Mick!  My strange looking cell is nearly identical with this one on 
EBay: 
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Bell-in-vacuum-jar-sound-physics-demonstration-demo-water-boil-air-pressure-New-/381021983760

On 11/9/2018 10:03 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Norm,
>
> That is a strange looking cell it looks like it's upside down and 
> maybe made from a water separator for a big diesel engine.  I hope you 
> show us your SS elemental replication cell in this series. Interesting 
> that little cell produced enough oh to make a torch with four quarters 
> on each side of one cell!
>
> What were the screws nuts and spacers made from?
> What was the power supply one of those brass looking computer 
> switching supply bricks?
>
> Yes I was surprised how much retail Nickel cost when I was looking for 
> materials found the cheapest source to be electroplating ingots.
>
> Rosi technology seems to be in perpetual test stages like 
> blacklightpower and the rest, all on the soft shoe suppression 
> strategy, feed em some money and put it into testing proof of concept 
> forever.
>
> On 11/9/2018 4:22 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>> Once upon a time, back in the 80s there was the famous Cold Fusion 
>> Debate of which I was a part. There was a Cold Fusion Cell built that 
>> used pure nickel for the anode/cathodes., Called a Double Nickel 
>> Cell.  It happened that Bert Pool & Leslie were going to Canada for a 
>> little vacation so Bert brought back Canadian quarters which BTW were 
>> pure nickel.   I built the below cell to measure  anomalous heat 
>> output which had been reported.   I called it the Octa-Nickel Cell 
>> and by using pure nickel elements, it was a huge hydrogen producer.  
>> I used Potassium Carbonate for the electrolyte with a 5VDC power 
>> supply @ 10 amps to drive the cell and it did deliver the additional 
>> heat output over the input wattage as measured by the instrumented 
>> enclosure. I burned off the H-H-O produced with the little stainless 
>> nozzle shown and it would sublimate tungsten wire in the 10,000 
>> degree pink/blue recombination burn.  A true sign of atomic 
>> hydrogen.   A real break through occurred when I took the experiment 
>> to a Vanguard Science Meeting to do a report on Cold Fusion.  While 
>> transporting the cell some of my electrolyte was spilled, so I went 
>> to the rest room and got some Dallas tap water to top off the 100ml 
>> beaker. When placed into operation, the cell sat there and produced 
>> the atomic hydrogen /oxygen gas but the cell temperature was going 
>> down below the ambient starting temperature of 78 degrees at start.  
>> I was puzzled over how you could be putting in 50 watts of hard DC 
>> power and the cell temperature was going down.  Demonstration ruined 
>> BUT, quite revealing since there was something unusual going on. I 
>> suspected that the nickel electrode cell was transmuting the chlorine 
>> contaminates in the Dallas tap water.  Thus, I built the Elemental 
>> Replication Cell which was designed around 316L stainless steel 
>> anodes/cathodes cause I could not afford to buy sheet nickel stock. 
>> See : 
>> http://www.pennstainless.com/stainless-grades/300-series-stainless-steel/316l-stainless-steel/ 
>> The elemental Replication Phenomenon was verified by other researches 
>> in the Tesla Tech Group as reported at the annual meetings by Steve 
>> Elswick.  Nickel has been shown to be a very powerful catalytic agent 
>> in the combustion of diesel/water mix as done by Caterpillar Corp and 
>> the auto Industry.  See: 
>> http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm Bosch Corp. designed 
>> ultra high voltage ignition system to burn water fuel combination 
>> which BTW had the nickel catalyst present.
>>
>>
>> http://www.detailshere.com/coldfusion.htm
>>
>> http://www.rexresearch.com/millshyd/millshyd.htm
>>
>> http://www.rexresearch.com/rossi/rossi.htm
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPycGwgFW6k
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLbFGAHi9A
>>
>> https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/secret_projects/project112.htm
>>
>> https://coldfusionnow.org/sri-replicates-six-different-types-of-cells/
>>
>> https://phys.org/news/2011-01-italian-scientists-cold-fusion-video.html
>>
>> On 11/8/2018 6:42 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>> I want to prepare some findings on "Catalysts" tomorrow. I need to 
>>> pull up some interesting info for you all!
>>>
>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
>>> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>>>
>>>     On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 4:52 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]
>>>     <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>     Hi Norm,
>>>
>>>     The catalysts are very interesting.  Iron Cobalt and Nickel all
>>>     ferromagnetic but at different spins.
>>>
>>>     Correct me if I am wrong but based on reading your links a
>>>     bingofuel type reactor using tungsten electrodes that hopefully
>>>     would last much longer would likely produce OH rather than H and
>>>     carbon monoxide, what do you think?
>>>
>>>     Also water is strange indeed in that a pyramid or orgone
>>>     accumulator changes it and these simple changes could make for
>>>     water that breaks up more easily.  I would love to know what
>>>     results you demonstrated with the totally juvenile memory free
>>>     water you put back together from the OH?
>>>
>>>     Sorry to hear about your neck fracture, I have a similar issue
>>>     and it is extremely painful and debilitating at times.
>>>
>>>     Mick
>>>
>>>
>>>     On 11/7/2018 4:15 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected]
>>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     On 11/7/2018 6:06 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>     Jakob Wall! & all other researchers on here need to read the
>>>>>     Whole Story as to why I no longer have a research lab.  Jakob,
>>>>>     I'm sorry I did not reveal to you the BEST in my opinion of
>>>>>     methods of producing hydrogen gas for I felt it was a little
>>>>>     too advanced and difficult for you to experiment with.  See:
>>>>>     https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en .   There is
>>>>>     a very long story behind this US Patent and a hell of a lot of
>>>>>     research. The quest for a very inexpensive method of splitting
>>>>>     water has been the Holy Grail of  cheap energy.   In addition
>>>>>     to the research papers and links that I gave to you, here are
>>>>>     some more to dwell on.
>>>>>
>>>>>     https://www.researchgate.net/post/At_what_temperature_water_will_decompose_to_Oxygen_and_Hydrogen
>>>>>
>>>>>     https://www.quora.com/Does-water-break-down-into-oxygen-and-hydrogen-at-high-temperatures-If-so-then-at-what-temperature
>>>>>
>>>>>     https://www.quora.com/How-much-water-can-you-split-into-hydrogen-and-oxygen-using-electrolysis-with-one-kilowatt-hour-of-electricity
>>>>>
>>>>>     http://www.redrok.com/hion96a1.htm
>>>>>
>>>>>     https://www.nature.com/articles/nplants201741 Please read
>>>>>     carefully about the play of Nickel in this approach!
>>>>>
>>>>>     https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_splitting
>>>>>
>>>>>     https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water-gas_shift_reaction I
>>>>>     owned 77 acres of land in Eureka Springs, AR where they still
>>>>>     had the old water gas generator and gas storage facility.
>>>>>
>>>>>     https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decarboxylation
>>>>>
>>>>>     https://phys.org/news/2018-02-uncovers-mechanism-water-splitting-catalyst.html
>>>>>
>>>>>     https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/new-catalyst-could-split-water-cheaply/
>>>>>
>>>>>     https://www.technologyreview.com/s/512996/a-cheaper-way-to-make-hydrogen-from-water/
>>>>>
>>>>>     "*SUPER STEAM* - A Tesla conference in Colorado surfaces new
>>>>>     Super Steam Technology (SST). Leonard Dorsett and friends from
>>>>>     Texas share strikingly similar views to Aquarian Agency Ltd.
>>>>>     They have technology which produces steam instantly at up to
>>>>>     3,000F without a boiler and with 60% savings in fuel over
>>>>>     traditional boilers. Nitrogen rich, it can put out gasoline
>>>>>     fires and treat many waste problems. Of major importance to
>>>>>     Aquarian, this nitrogen-rich steam will help to produce heat
>>>>>     and Aquastone at considerable savings."
>>>>>
>>>>>     For further information on Aquarian Agency Ltd. they can be
>>>>>     contacted at 38 Weir Rd, Wimbledon, London SW19 SUG, England
>>>>>     or on Internet at <aquarian ocign.ape.org>. *_SUPER STEAM
>>>>>     TECHNOLOGY PART 2_*
>>>>>
>>>>>     Leonard Dorsett (PO Box 365, Grapevine, TX 76092) demonstrated
>>>>>     his Super Steam Technology at the 1994 International Tesla
>>>>>     Symposium. SST is a system for producing steam at any
>>>>>     temperature or pressure independently and instantly without
>>>>>     the need for a conventional boiler. It can instantly produce
>>>>>     steam of any temperature from hot water at 180F to super
>>>>>     heated steam at over 3000F, while pressures can vary from 1PSI
>>>>>     to 3000PSI with airflow volumes of 1CFM up to over 2000CFM.
>>>>>     The system operates on propane, methane, petrol, kerosene,
>>>>>     methanol, diesel, hydrogen or just about anything else that
>>>>>     bums and converts virtually 100% of the fuel into usable
>>>>>     energy. (Note: The person in the picture is Norman Wootan of
>>>>>     MRA fame)
>>>>>
>>>>>     This all sounds great, but how does it work? The basis of the
>>>>>     unit is a specially designed open throat chamber with
>>>>>     controlled air, water and fuel interaction and a high voltage
>>>>>     ignition resulting in a direct fire process establishing
>>>>>     thermal zones. This creates a stoichiometric condition
>>>>>     resulting in a full spectrum of steam product. Now comes the
>>>>>     interesting part At the increased temperatures of steam,
>>>>>     disassociation occurs. (Could this be a clue to running cars
>>>>>     on water??) The hydrogen and oxygen reacts causing an
>>>>>     exponential increase of energy resulting in super heated
>>>>>     steam. A similar superheat process was addressed by Tesla in
>>>>>     the October 12, 1911 publication of the "Engineering News Record".
>>>>>
>>>>>     Applications of the SST system include a much more economical
>>>>>     way of producing electricity as no conventional boiler is
>>>>>     needed. It will also be an ideal low cost method for heating
>>>>>     and cooling homes and businesses. Small portable units can be
>>>>>     developed for home use, such as steam cleaning, and insect and
>>>>>     ant removal, without the dangers of insecticides. The system
>>>>>     can also be used for low cost purification of polluted water
>>>>>     or sewerage and can also convert salt water into drinking
>>>>>     water both quickly and inexpensively. Other uses are in fire
>>>>>     fighting applications, ice and snow removal from roads, etc.
>>>>>     and sterilization and nurturing of soil for agriculture where
>>>>>     contamination has occurred.
>>>>>
>>>>>     I had designed a method of making hydrogen from carbon & water
>>>>>     vapor using the Tesla Atomic Bombardment method of high
>>>>>     frequency inside of spherical inclosure like this experiments
>>>>>     with the carbon button lamp globes.   After working with
>>>>>     Leonard Dorsett and his Super Steam Project, I chose to use
>>>>>     the Water Shift Process instead.  A side note is needed here!
>>>>>     The Super Steam Process was a result of Professor Brown
>>>>>     studying the method the German's used for torpedo propulsion
>>>>>     from WWI. Acetylene Gas and sea water produced an exothermic
>>>>>     reaction generating Super Steam. Brown built several reactors
>>>>>     and tested them in the Tulsa area to break (down hole) the
>>>>>     parafin deposits to release crude oil.
>>>>>
>>>>>     The Chemical equation for the reaction in the US Patent:
>>>>>     https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en
>>>>>
>>>>>     *(6C + 12 H2O= 6CO2 + 24H) *
>>>>>
>>>>>     Hydrogen Reactor Development
>>>>>
>>>>>     **
>>>>>
>>>>>     Original concept design was a high voltage, high frequency
>>>>>     resonant device that utilized carbon water reaction with the
>>>>>     feedstock being in the form of graphite rod stock.This unit
>>>>>     was designed for vehicle application and had too many
>>>>>     limitations to be used for mass hydrogen generation.This type
>>>>>     reactor is very effective at hydrogen production since it
>>>>>     targets the water vapor molecule at MRI frequencies, which
>>>>>     breaks the bonding, allowing the carbon to latch onto the
>>>>>     oxygen atoms leaving the hydrogen free. This device was a
>>>>>     closed system that used a simple CO2/hydrogen separation stage
>>>>>     that enabled the hydrogen to be feed to an internal combustion
>>>>>     engine.
>>>>>
>>>>>     **
>>>>>
>>>>>     *To allow for a sustained high mass flow of hydrogen gas
>>>>>     output, reactor design took on a radical change.By
>>>>>     incorporating the Ranque/Hilsch, Counter Flow Implosion Vortex
>>>>>     Principle, and continuous high mass flow and gas separation
>>>>>     were achieved in one stage of operation.Feedstock for this
>>>>>     type reactor could be any carbon-based material that could be
>>>>>     put into a powder form.Highest carbon content of the feedstock
>>>>>     provides for the most efficient hydrogen production with the
>>>>>     least undesirable output material.*
>>>>>
>>>>>     **
>>>>>
>>>>>     *Super high temperature operating regime was chosen to be
>>>>>     above 2500 C for the purpose of producing atomic hydrogen in
>>>>>     the process.The original reactor operated at temperatures that
>>>>>     easily gasified basic carbon into a plasma state (>10,000 F)
>>>>>     more easily allowing the production of hydrogen from the
>>>>>     stoichiometric feed stock ratios.*
>>>>>
>>>>>     *
>>>>>     *
>>>>>
>>>>>     *alt*
>>>>>
>>>>>     I sold one of my Patents (Sonodiffuser) and paid for my 52
>>>>>     acres of land and built a 5200 sq. Ft. lab the do the
>>>>>     Prototype machining and Proof of Concept testing for GAZPROM,
>>>>>     Moscow in 2005. A $1.2 million investment and they got the
>>>>>     rights to the process and I got the beautiful Research Lab all
>>>>>     paid in full. I was a self employed Contractor in Dallas
>>>>>     working with HVAC, Electrical and Electronics Maintenance so
>>>>>     had to commute 170 miles/day and only had the week ends for my
>>>>>     time! Having to mow grass and maintane the 52 acres took all
>>>>>     my time and when I suffered a neck fracture in 2012, had to
>>>>>     retire. Liquidated the entire facility and sold it off. Moved
>>>>>     to Dallas then to South Louisiana where I now do a lot of
>>>>>     relaxing and fishing!
>>>>>
>>>>>     Hector and ALL, I did my time in the Barrel so now I will just
>>>>>     contribute to the dialog inorder to assist any research you
>>>>>     may be doing within my area of experitise!     BTW! I have
>>>>>     been out to pasture for a long time now, so no BULL offense! 
>>>>>     As Hector knows, "It fits"! Lol
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     alt
>>>>>
>>>>>     Yes! Hector, I will wear my Border Patrol Hat when you come
>>>>>     visit from PR!  Lol
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     On 11/6/2018 8:52 PM, [email protected]
>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     By the way ... i can hit mega millions or the power ball  . i
>>>>>>     never will not have a lab i can work in,  that is worst than
>>>>>>     death , you have no idea of the technology that had being
>>>>>>     lost by the greedy fucking bastards fucking my life , they
>>>>>>     will loose all they have "soon" because it had being
>>>>>>     engineered that way by accumulative bad karma, i have another
>>>>>>     lab they will never reach or be able to intercept or destroy
>>>>>>     and that will decide their fate ..... they will be fucked hard !
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     (H)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     ---In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>,
>>>>>>     <mkjekyll@...> <mailto:mkjekyll@...> wrote :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Cmon Hector,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Bad taste!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     The man had a more serious lab than anyone else here and his
>>>>>>     work speaks for itself.  Maybe he has gained the fortune he
>>>>>>     desired through R&D and now shitting in tall cotton or gone
>>>>>>     fishing reaping the rewards of retirement. Notwithstanding is
>>>>>>     still kind enough to help point us in the right directions
>>>>>>     around here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     "*Funny–I can look back on a life of achievement, on
>>>>>>     challenges met, competitors bested, obstacles overcome. I’ve
>>>>>>     accomplished more than most men, and without the use of my
>>>>>>     legs. What?What makes a man, Mr. Lebowski?"*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     On 11/6/2018 8:04 AM, arkresearch@...
>>>>>>     <mailto:arkresearch@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         Dar n ! a Scientist inventor with no lab is like a
>>>>>>>         breeding bull with no balls !
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         Balls Cow GIF - Balls Cow WingDangDoodle GIFs
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         ---In [email protected]
>>>>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]>, <nwootan@...>
>>>>>>>         <mailto:nwootan@...> wrote :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         Jacob! You asked me a question and I gave you my
>>>>>>>         opinion!  I'm totally retired at 80 years old and have
>>>>>>>         no lab to experiment in!  Your quote; I heard once a
>>>>>>>         phrase from a researcher who said. '' Slow down boy, we
>>>>>>>         get paid for llooking for solutions, not to find
>>>>>>>         them!''   That certainly does not apply to me for I have
>>>>>>>         shared all with the folks on this site. I find you
>>>>>>>         statement very interesting: Technics that use up 10 % of
>>>>>>>         a magnet in 24 hours with usual amount of gas looks to
>>>>>>>         me extremely inefficient. ?????? Care to share where you
>>>>>>>         saw the power of a permanent magnet being used up!   We
>>>>>>>         all here on this site share what ever knowledge we have
>>>>>>>         on the various subjects not seeking any monetary gain in
>>>>>>>         any way! That is my approach!   I just contribute to the
>>>>>>>         dialog when I run across something interesting and think
>>>>>>>         it will assist you guys! Norm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         On 11/3/2018 11:32 PM, Jakob Wall wall_jakob@...
>>>>>>>         <mailto:wall_jakob@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             Thanks Norman,
>>>>>>>>             But i actually asced for ''most efficient way'' to
>>>>>>>>             split water known to you!
>>>>>>>>             I realize there are a lot of different technigues
>>>>>>>>             to do just that.
>>>>>>>>             And yes i realize you could give me a rather
>>>>>>>>             complex answer. But instead i hope for a
>>>>>>>>             rather easy and reproductive answer since i am
>>>>>>>>             looking forward to solve my enerrgy
>>>>>>>>             problems i just can not live with the momentary
>>>>>>>>             (sad and very stupid energy situation)
>>>>>>>>             I am still not giving up becouse of a couple
>>>>>>>>             mistakes and misunderstandings.
>>>>>>>>             If i would be a car dealer and you would ask me for
>>>>>>>>             a most efficient car available on the market
>>>>>>>>             i would for sure not recommend a Prius, since there
>>>>>>>>             are a lot of cars with better fuel economie
>>>>>>>>             even without being a hybrid and without additional
>>>>>>>>             cost like batterys,e-motors and a bunch added ECU's
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours
>>>>>>>>             with usual amount of gas looks to me extremely
>>>>>>>>             inefficient.
>>>>>>>>             Also very expensive HHO-Garage products with output
>>>>>>>>             of 1,6 ltr/min.
>>>>>>>>             Come on, 6 rusty nails and a old car batery does
>>>>>>>>             this job, no need to spend 1600 bucks on it.
>>>>>>>>             I honestly expected solide advise or a honest NO
>>>>>>>>             way boy, i just talking around.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said.
>>>>>>>>             '' Slow down boy, we get paid for llooking for
>>>>>>>>             solutions, not to find them!'' That shoked me
>>>>>>>>             deeply and even if i get 150 years old, i will not
>>>>>>>>             forget it.
>>>>>>>>             Thats true treason on mankind and deciving the
>>>>>>>>             people. I really hope nobody on this forum only care
>>>>>>>>             about what he/she will be doing tomorrow.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             Jakob
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             --------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>             On Sun, 10/28/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>>>>>             <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY]
>>>>>>>>             <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>             <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic
>>>>>>>>             Battery
>>>>>>>>             To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>             <mailto:[email protected]>, "Bert Pool"
>>>>>>>>             <BertPool512@...> <mailto:BertPool512@...>, "Bob
>>>>>>>>             Paddock" <bob.paddock@...>
>>>>>>>>             <mailto:bob.paddock@...>, "joel mcclain"
>>>>>>>>             <joel_76670@...> <mailto:joel_76670@...>, "Jon
>>>>>>>>             Gentry" <jongen422@...> <mailto:jongen422@...>,
>>>>>>>>             "Mbking42" <mbking42@...> <mailto:mbking42@...>,
>>>>>>>>             "Toby Grotz" <wireless2@...>
>>>>>>>>             <mailto:wireless2@...>, "Phil Rembold"
>>>>>>>>             <prembold@...> <mailto:prembold@...>, "Angel
>>>>>>>>             Alvarez" <angel@...> <mailto:angel@...>, "Fredric
>>>>>>>>             Fletcher" <ffletcher@...> <mailto:ffletcher@...>
>>>>>>>>             Received: Sunday, October 28, 2018, 9:44 AM
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             Jacob!  That would be a rather complex answer
>>>>>>>>             but here is your
>>>>>>>>             starting point!
>>>>>>>>             https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct-thermomagnetic-splitting-of-water-.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             After having been heavily involved in the COLD FUSION
>>>>>>>>             Research
>>>>>>>>             back in the 70s and 80s I quickly settled o0n the best
>>>>>>>>             catalyst in
>>>>>>>>             electrolytic cells which is pure nickel. I still have
>>>>>>>>             the cell
>>>>>>>>             used in the Elemental Replication experiments.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm
>>>>>>>>             The hidden
>>>>>>>>             part of this research is the use of a nickel component
>>>>>>>>             in the
>>>>>>>>             combustion chamber. Bosch developed 90,000V ignition
>>>>>>>>             systems to
>>>>>>>>             enable water injection in gas engine which high
>>>>>>>>             lighted the
>>>>>>>>             Graneau HV decomposition of water via HVDC
>>>>>>>>             discharge!
>>>>>>>>             My magnetic Battery when run as an electrolytic cell
>>>>>>>>             to produce
>>>>>>>>             hydrogen does produce a huge amount of hydrogen gas as
>>>>>>>>             shown by
>>>>>>>>             the Dr. Ehrenhaft document.  I would tell you to
>>>>>>>>             pursue the super
>>>>>>>>             high Tesla magnetic flux and nickel electrodes in an
>>>>>>>>             electrolytic
>>>>>>>>             cell.  The major obstacle to be overcome is the rapid
>>>>>>>>             collection
>>>>>>>>             of ions from solution by the 1.3 Tesla flux across a
>>>>>>>>             .020"
>>>>>>>>             mechanical gap which quickly takes the cell into a
>>>>>>>>             super-conduction mode which takes out the driving DC
>>>>>>>>             power supply.
>>>>>>>>             You can flush the magnetic gaps with distilled water
>>>>>>>>             and the gaps
>>>>>>>>             will show in the meg-ohm range then go to zero ohms
>>>>>>>>             after a short
>>>>>>>>             period of running, the gathered ions totally short
>>>>>>>>             cell. During
>>>>>>>>             the brief runs there is a huge amount of hydrogen gas
>>>>>>>>             produced
>>>>>>>>             which I burned off as it was generated. Much can be
>>>>>>>>             said about
>>>>>>>>             driving the cell with high frequencies as the Myers
>>>>>>>>             research
>>>>>>>>             showed.  Our friend up in Canada at George Wiseman,
>>>>>>>>             Eagle Research
>>>>>>>>             is running well ahead of the crowd on the production
>>>>>>>>             of H-H-O.
>>>>>>>>             Just for giggles!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             16 October
>>>>>>>>             1996
>>>>>>>>             To: Hal
>>>>>>>>             Fox,  Fusion Facts
>>>>>>>>             Elemental
>>>>>>>>             Replication ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                   Around mid
>>>>>>>>             September
>>>>>>>>             I put together an
>>>>>>>>             electrolysis cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold
>>>>>>>>             Fusion Cell
>>>>>>>>             with the goal of
>>>>>>>>             exploring the possibilities of making what is
>>>>>>>>             termed “Pristine
>>>>>>>>             Water”.   This water
>>>>>>>>             which will be used by Homeopaths
>>>>>>>>             will have had all memory or information
>>>>>>>>             removed.  This is accomplished by
>>>>>>>>             recombining monatomic
>>>>>>>>             hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated in a
>>>>>>>>             properly
>>>>>>>>             designed cell.  This is
>>>>>>>>             the ultimate in purity since this is
>>>>>>>>             water with conditions at the time of original
>>>>>>>>             creation. “Holly Water”is a term
>>>>>>>>             coined by my dear
>>>>>>>>             friend and fellow researcher Joe Tyls of
>>>>>>>>             Vancouver, BC.   After several weeks of
>>>>>>>>             successful operation
>>>>>>>>             producing water that had all the earmarks of a
>>>>>>>>             true “pristine
>>>>>>>>             water” a fellow
>>>>>>>>             researcher suggested using an alternate
>>>>>>>>             electrolyte. A solution was selected
>>>>>>>>             that contained 77
>>>>>>>>             colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the
>>>>>>>>             easiest
>>>>>>>>             assimilated into the
>>>>>>>>             body.   With the
>>>>>>>>             electrolyte changed the
>>>>>>>>             cell was put back into operation as before with a
>>>>>>>>             nice
>>>>>>>>             recombination burn and
>>>>>>>>             production of the sought after “pristine
>>>>>>>>             water”.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                 After about an
>>>>>>>>             hour of
>>>>>>>>             operation the cell
>>>>>>>>             went absolutely “nuts” with the temperature
>>>>>>>>             rapidly climbing
>>>>>>>>             to boiling point
>>>>>>>>             and the current out of sight.
>>>>>>>>             When the
>>>>>>>>             cell was opened we found a deep red sludge deposit
>>>>>>>>             which
>>>>>>>>             shorted the cell
>>>>>>>>             plates.   Our first
>>>>>>>>             thought was that the
>>>>>>>>             electrolytic action precipitated out the colloidal
>>>>>>>>             minerals
>>>>>>>>             which caused the
>>>>>>>>             deposit found.   The
>>>>>>>>             electrolyte was allowed
>>>>>>>>             to settle out the
>>>>>>>>             precipitate. After
>>>>>>>>             decanting off,  the clear electrolyte
>>>>>>>>             was
>>>>>>>>             returned to the
>>>>>>>>             cell for another run. Again the cell operated
>>>>>>>>             normally for
>>>>>>>>             about an hour with a
>>>>>>>>             normal recombination burn and recovery of the
>>>>>>>>             water being
>>>>>>>>             consumed by the cell
>>>>>>>>             in the splitting action. Again
>>>>>>>>             the cell
>>>>>>>>             temperature and current mirrored the first
>>>>>>>>             run.
>>>>>>>>             Again the cell contained the same amount of
>>>>>>>>             sludge
>>>>>>>>             residue. This process
>>>>>>>>             was repeated ten (10) times
>>>>>>>>             with exactly the same results.
>>>>>>>>             All of
>>>>>>>>             the sludge was carefully dried and weighed on an
>>>>>>>>             electronic
>>>>>>>>             scale with a five
>>>>>>>>             decimal
>>>>>>>>             resolution.
>>>>>>>>             The cell plates and all hardware were
>>>>>>>>             weighed to
>>>>>>>>             determine any loss of
>>>>>>>>             mass that may contribute to the mass gain observed
>>>>>>>>             in the
>>>>>>>>             sludge.  Five hundred
>>>>>>>>             (500) ml of the original
>>>>>>>>             electrolyte solution used in the cell was vacuum
>>>>>>>>             distilled to
>>>>>>>>             determine the
>>>>>>>>             exact mass of colloidal minerals
>>>>>>>>             contained.
>>>>>>>>             When all factors were considered we came
>>>>>>>>             out with a
>>>>>>>>             mass gain of 48 gm
>>>>>>>>             which cannot be explained by
>>>>>>>>             conventional
>>>>>>>>             electrolysis.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                 After talking
>>>>>>>>             to Dr.
>>>>>>>>             Robert Bass and Hal
>>>>>>>>             Fox I learned of a patent that has been filed on
>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>             transmutation of elements
>>>>>>>>             in the cold fusion cell which is the process that
>>>>>>>>             Dr. John
>>>>>>>>             Bockris has been so
>>>>>>>>             active in. Both Dr.
>>>>>>>>             Bass and Hal Fox
>>>>>>>>             stated that what I was observing is not the same
>>>>>>>>             as the
>>>>>>>>             transmutation observed
>>>>>>>>             in the cold fusion cell since I have a overall
>>>>>>>>             mass gain and
>>>>>>>>             not a lateral
>>>>>>>>             movement of elements in the periodic table toward
>>>>>>>>             lighter
>>>>>>>>             elements with a
>>>>>>>>             resulting heat release.  This
>>>>>>>>             unusual
>>>>>>>>             cell operation has caused quite a reaction in the
>>>>>>>>             scientific
>>>>>>>>             community.  At this
>>>>>>>>             time I have built a complete new cell
>>>>>>>>             with every possible factor which could possibly
>>>>>>>>             explain the
>>>>>>>>             mass gain
>>>>>>>>             considered and documented. The
>>>>>>>>             ten (10)
>>>>>>>>             consecutive runs on the new cell will be completed
>>>>>>>>             soon and a
>>>>>>>>             report will be
>>>>>>>>             forthcoming. What is
>>>>>>>>             interesting about
>>>>>>>>             this phenomenon is that when an eleventh run was
>>>>>>>>             made with the
>>>>>>>>             original
>>>>>>>>             electrolyte exactly the same amount of residue was
>>>>>>>>             recovered
>>>>>>>>             as in the previous
>>>>>>>>             ten
>>>>>>>>             runs.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             Since
>>>>>>>>             the same electrolyte is reused each time with only
>>>>>>>>             distilled
>>>>>>>>             water being added
>>>>>>>>             to replace the volume lost by the removal of the
>>>>>>>>             solids and
>>>>>>>>             the water recovered
>>>>>>>>             by the recombination burn we are hard pressed to
>>>>>>>>             explain the
>>>>>>>>             observed
>>>>>>>>             phenomenon.     The
>>>>>>>>             electrolyte appears
>>>>>>>>             stronger in mineral concentration and shows no
>>>>>>>>             sign of
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             depletion.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                After conferring
>>>>>>>>             with
>>>>>>>>             Joe Tyls we arrived at
>>>>>>>>             the conclusion that the 77 colloidal minerals
>>>>>>>>             contained in the
>>>>>>>>             electrolyte
>>>>>>>>             provide the atomic templates needed for the
>>>>>>>>             monatomic hydrogen
>>>>>>>>             (father of all
>>>>>>>>             the elements) to replicate selected elements in
>>>>>>>>             this exotic
>>>>>>>>             mixture.  If you
>>>>>>>>             subscribe to the theories of the late
>>>>>>>>             Walter Russell and his explanation of the octave
>>>>>>>>             based
>>>>>>>>             periodic table with
>>>>>>>>             monatonic hydrogen being what he describes as
>>>>>>>>             hydrons
>>>>>>>>             (precursor to hydrogen)
>>>>>>>>             then it is possible for the replication of
>>>>>>>>             elements directly
>>>>>>>>             from energy input
>>>>>>>>             alone.  This is how all
>>>>>>>>             matter was
>>>>>>>>             created in the beginning as described by
>>>>>>>>             Schappeller in “The
>>>>>>>>             Physics of the
>>>>>>>>             Primary State of Matter”. I
>>>>>>>>             will keep
>>>>>>>>             all informed as to our progress and findings in
>>>>>>>>             this very
>>>>>>>>             intriguing venture.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             Norman
>>>>>>>>             Wootan
>>>>>>>>             P.O.
>>>>>>>>             Box 141049
>>>>>>>>             Dallas,
>>>>>>>>             TX 75214
>>>>>>>>             (214)
>>>>>>>>             360-0865
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             CC:  Gene Mallove,
>>>>>>>>             Infinite
>>>>>>>>             Energy
>>>>>>>>             CC:  Dr. John
>>>>>>>>             Bockris, Texas
>>>>>>>>             A/M
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             On 10/28/2018 1:01 AM,
>>>>>>>>             Jakob Wall
>>>>>>>>             wall_jakob@... <mailto:wall_jakob@...>
>>>>>>>>             [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             Thanks Norman,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             BTW, what is the most effective water split
>>>>>>>>             device that
>>>>>>>>             you ever put you hands on?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             As HHO researcher for dekades you should be
>>>>>>>>             able to point
>>>>>>>>             us directly to the most effective known!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             Please be specific about reconstruction of the
>>>>>>>>             same, since
>>>>>>>>             we are in public domain it will become public
>>>>>>>>             knowledge
>>>>>>>>             and public good. I assume you intend nothing
>>>>>>>>             else,rigth ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             --------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             On Sat, 10/27/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>>>>>             <mailto:nwootan@...>
>>>>>>>>             [EVGRAY]
>>>>>>>>             <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>             <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>             wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's
>>>>>>>>             Magnetic
>>>>>>>>             Battery [3 Attachments]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             To: "Bert Pool" <BertPool512@...>
>>>>>>>>             <mailto:BertPool512@...>,
>>>>>>>>             "Bob
>>>>>>>>             Paddock" <bob.paddock@...> <mailto:bob.paddock@...>,
>>>>>>>>             "joel mcclain"
>>>>>>>>             <joel_76670@...> <mailto:joel_76670@...>,
>>>>>>>>             "Jon Gentry"
>>>>>>>>             <jongen422@...> <mailto:jongen422@...>,
>>>>>>>>             "Lane Wootan"
>>>>>>>>             <lanewootan@...> <mailto:lanewootan@...>,
>>>>>>>>             "Mbking42"
>>>>>>>>             <mbking42@...> <mailto:mbking42@...>,
>>>>>>>>             "Toby Grotz"
>>>>>>>>             <wireless2@...> <mailto:wireless2@...>,
>>>>>>>>             "Phil Rembold"
>>>>>>>>             <prembold@...> <mailto:prembold@...>,
>>>>>>>>             "Angel Alvarez"
>>>>>>>>             <angel@...> <mailto:angel@...>,
>>>>>>>>             "Fredric Fletcher"
>>>>>>>>             <ffletcher@...> <mailto:ffletcher@...>,
>>>>>>>>             [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             To understand the unwinding of a thread
>>>>>>>>             leading
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             to Magnetic
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             Generating Hydrogen and this Magnetic Battery,
>>>>>>>>             we have
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             to dust off
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             our  9th grade Chemistry Books!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             http://www.rexresearch.com/ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             I guess Dr.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             Ehrenhaft was the first to propose a Magnetic
>>>>>>>>             Current.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             (Jon
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             Gentry, Your liquid metal vortex helix).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             https://revolution-green.com/can-electrolysis-powered-magnets/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             Ah! Ha!  more on Magnetic Currents!!!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             https://www.labmanager.com/white-papers-and-application-notes/2010/05/resistivity-conductivity-measurement-of-purified-water#.W9So9uJRc2w
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             https://www.askiitians.com/forums/Physical-Chemistry/19/19074/electro-che
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpotential
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             https://www.quora.com/Why-is-oxygen-molecule-paramagnetic-although-it-does-not-contain-any-unpaired-electron
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251580541_The_effect_of_magnetic_force_on_hydrogen_production_efficiency_in_water_electrolysis
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             http://www.physicscentral.com/experiment/physicsathome/electricwhirlpool.cfm
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             http://www.linux-host.org/energy/bmagpump.htm
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             Now Jon Gentry you have your liquid metal pump
>>>>>>>>             so
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             that you can
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             make the helix tube Vortex!
>>>>>>>>             Ferricpetacarbonyl or
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             micro fine neo
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             powder to provide the liquid metal for pump
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             circuit.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             Lots of reading here! Please think
>>>>>>>>             about the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             ramifications of
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             a Magnetic Current as proposed by Dr.
>>>>>>>>             Ehrenhaft!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>
Ah a bell jar OK thought it looked really familiar!

On 11/12/2018 5:26 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> Mick!  My strange looking cell is nearly identical with this one on
> EBay: 
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Bell-in-vacuum-jar-sound-physics-demonstration-demo-water-boil-air-pressure-New-/381021983760
>
> On 11/9/2018 10:03 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>  
>>
>> Norm,
>>
>> That is a strange looking cell it looks like it's upside down and
>> maybe made from a water separator for a big diesel engine.  I hope
>> you show us your SS elemental replication cell in this series.
>> Interesting that little cell produced enough oh to make a torch with
>> four quarters on each side of one cell!
>>
>> What were the screws nuts and spacers made from?
>> What was the power supply one of those brass looking computer
>> switching supply bricks?
>>
>> Yes I was surprised how much retail Nickel cost when I was looking
>> for materials found the cheapest source to be electroplating ingots.
>>
>> Rosi technology seems to be in perpetual test stages like
>> blacklightpower and the rest, all on the soft shoe suppression
>> strategy, feed em some money and put it into testing proof of concept
>> forever.
>>
>> On 11/9/2018 4:22 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>  
>>>
>>> Once upon a time, back in the 80s there was the famous Cold Fusion
>>> Debate of which I was a part.  There was a Cold Fusion Cell built
>>> that used pure nickel for the anode/cathodes., Called a Double
>>> Nickel Cell.  It happened that Bert Pool & Leslie were going to
>>> Canada for a little vacation so Bert brought back Canadian quarters
>>> which BTW were pure nickel.   I built the below cell to measure 
>>> anomalous heat output which had been reported.   I called it the
>>> Octa-Nickel Cell and by using pure nickel elements, it was a huge
>>> hydrogen producer.  I used Potassium Carbonate for the electrolyte
>>> with a 5VDC power supply @ 10 amps to drive the cell and it did
>>> deliver the additional heat output over the input wattage as
>>> measured by the instrumented enclosure. I burned off the H-H-O
>>> produced with the little stainless nozzle shown and it would
>>> sublimate tungsten wire in the 10,000 degree pink/blue recombination
>>> burn.  A true sign of atomic hydrogen.   A real break through
>>> occurred when I took the experiment to a Vanguard Science Meeting to
>>> do a report on Cold Fusion.  While transporting the cell some of my
>>> electrolyte was spilled, so I went to the rest room and got some
>>> Dallas tap water to top off the 100ml beaker. When placed into
>>> operation, the cell sat there and produced the atomic hydrogen
>>> /oxygen gas but the cell temperature was going down below the
>>> ambient starting temperature of 78 degrees at start.  I was puzzled
>>> over how you could be putting in 50 watts of hard DC power and the
>>> cell temperature was going down.  Demonstration ruined BUT, quite
>>> revealing since there was something unusual going on. I suspected
>>> that the nickel electrode cell was transmuting the chlorine
>>> contaminates in the Dallas tap water.  Thus, I built the Elemental
>>> Replication Cell which was designed around 316L stainless steel
>>> anodes/cathodes cause I could not afford to buy sheet nickel stock.
>>> See :
>>> http://www.pennstainless.com/stainless-grades/300-series-stainless-steel/316l-stainless-steel/   
>>> The elemental Replication Phenomenon was verified by other
>>> researches in the Tesla Tech Group as reported at the annual
>>> meetings by Steve Elswick.  Nickel has been shown to be a very
>>> powerful catalytic agent in the combustion of diesel/water mix as
>>> done by Caterpillar Corp and the auto Industry.  See:
>>> http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm   Bosch Corp.
>>> designed ultra high voltage ignition system to burn water fuel
>>> combination which BTW had the nickel catalyst present.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.detailshere.com/coldfusion.htm
>>>
>>> http://www.rexresearch.com/millshyd/millshyd.htm
>>>
>>> http://www.rexresearch.com/rossi/rossi.htm
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPycGwgFW6k
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLbFGAHi9A
>>>
>>> https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/secret_projects/project112.htm
>>>
>>> https://coldfusionnow.org/sri-replicates-six-different-types-of-cells/
>>>
>>> https://phys.org/news/2011-01-italian-scientists-cold-fusion-video.html
>>>
>>> On 11/8/2018 6:42 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> I want to prepare some findings on "Catalysts" tomorrow. I need to
>>>> pull up some interesting info for you all!
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>     On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 4:52 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]
>>>>     <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>      
>>>>
>>>>     Hi Norm,
>>>>
>>>>     The catalysts are very interesting.  Iron Cobalt and Nickel all
>>>>     ferromagnetic but at different spins.
>>>>
>>>>     Correct me if I am wrong but based on reading your links a
>>>>     bingofuel type reactor using tungsten electrodes that hopefully
>>>>     would last much longer would likely produce OH rather than H
>>>>     and carbon monoxide, what do you think?
>>>>
>>>>     Also water is strange indeed in that a pyramid or orgone
>>>>     accumulator changes it and these simple changes could make for
>>>>     water that breaks up more easily.  I would love to know what
>>>>     results you demonstrated with the totally juvenile memory free
>>>>     water you put back together from the OH? 
>>>>
>>>>     Sorry to hear about your neck fracture, I have a similar issue
>>>>     and it is extremely painful and debilitating at times.
>>>>
>>>>     Mick
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     On 11/7/2018 4:15 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected]
>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>      
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     On 11/7/2018 6:06 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Jakob Wall! & all other researchers on here need to read the
>>>>>>     Whole Story as to why I no longer have a research lab. 
>>>>>>     Jakob, I'm sorry I did not reveal to you the BEST in my
>>>>>>     opinion of methods of producing hydrogen gas for I felt it
>>>>>>     was a little too advanced and difficult for you to experiment
>>>>>>     with.  See: https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en
>>>>>>     .   There is a very long story behind this US Patent and a
>>>>>>     hell of a lot of research. The quest for a very inexpensive
>>>>>>     method of splitting water has been the Holy Grail of  cheap
>>>>>>     energy.   In addition to the research papers and links that I
>>>>>>     gave to you, here are some more to dwell on.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     https://www.researchgate.net/post/At_what_temperature_water_will_decompose_to_Oxygen_and_Hydrogen
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     https://www.quora.com/Does-water-break-down-into-oxygen-and-hydrogen-at-high-temperatures-If-so-then-at-what-temperature
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     https://www.quora.com/How-much-water-can-you-split-into-hydrogen-and-oxygen-using-electrolysis-with-one-kilowatt-hour-of-electricity
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     http://www.redrok.com/hion96a1.htm
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     https://www.nature.com/articles/nplants201741   Please read
>>>>>>     carefully about the play of Nickel in this approach!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_splitting
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water-gas_shift_reaction    I
>>>>>>     owned 77 acres of land in Eureka Springs, AR where they still
>>>>>>     had the old water gas generator and gas storage facility.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decarboxylation
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     https://phys.org/news/2018-02-uncovers-mechanism-water-splitting-catalyst.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/new-catalyst-could-split-water-cheaply/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     https://www.technologyreview.com/s/512996/a-cheaper-way-to-make-hydrogen-from-water/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     "*SUPER STEAM* - A Tesla conference in Colorado surfaces new
>>>>>>     Super Steam Technology (SST). Leonard Dorsett and friends
>>>>>>     from Texas share strikingly similar views to Aquarian Agency
>>>>>>     Ltd. They have technology which produces steam instantly at
>>>>>>     up to 3,000F without a boiler and with 60% savings in fuel
>>>>>>     over traditional boilers. Nitrogen rich, it can put out
>>>>>>     gasoline fires and treat many waste problems. Of major
>>>>>>     importance to Aquarian, this nitrogen-rich steam will help to
>>>>>>     produce heat and Aquastone at considerable savings."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     For further information on Aquarian Agency Ltd. they can be
>>>>>>     contacted at 38 Weir Rd, Wimbledon, London SW19 SUG, England
>>>>>>     or on Internet at <aquarian ocign.ape.org>. *_SUPER STEAM
>>>>>>     TECHNOLOGY PART 2_*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Leonard Dorsett (PO Box 365, Grapevine, TX 76092)
>>>>>>     demonstrated his Super Steam Technology at the 1994
>>>>>>     International Tesla Symposium. SST is a system for producing
>>>>>>     steam at any temperature or pressure independently and
>>>>>>     instantly without the need for a conventional boiler. It can
>>>>>>     instantly produce steam of any temperature from hot water at
>>>>>>     180F to super heated steam at over 3000F, while pressures can
>>>>>>     vary from 1PSI to 3000PSI with airflow volumes of 1CFM up to
>>>>>>     over 2000CFM. The system operates on propane, methane,
>>>>>>     petrol, kerosene, methanol, diesel, hydrogen or just about
>>>>>>     anything else that bums and converts virtually 100% of the
>>>>>>     fuel into usable energy. (Note: The person in the picture is
>>>>>>     Norman Wootan of MRA fame)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     This all sounds great, but how does it work? The basis of the
>>>>>>     unit is a specially designed open throat chamber with
>>>>>>     controlled air, water and fuel interaction and a high voltage
>>>>>>     ignition resulting in a direct fire process establishing
>>>>>>     thermal zones. This creates a stoichiometric condition
>>>>>>     resulting in a full spectrum of steam product. Now comes the
>>>>>>     interesting part At the increased temperatures of steam,
>>>>>>     disassociation occurs. (Could this be a clue to running cars
>>>>>>     on water??) The hydrogen and oxygen reacts causing an
>>>>>>     exponential increase of energy resulting in super heated
>>>>>>     steam. A similar superheat process was addressed by Tesla in
>>>>>>     the October 12, 1911 publication of the "Engineering News
>>>>>>     Record".
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Applications of the SST system include a much more economical
>>>>>>     way of producing electricity as no conventional boiler is
>>>>>>     needed. It will also be an ideal low cost method for heating
>>>>>>     and cooling homes and businesses. Small portable units can be
>>>>>>     developed for home use, such as steam cleaning, and insect
>>>>>>     and ant removal, without the dangers of insecticides. The
>>>>>>     system can also be used for low cost purification of polluted
>>>>>>     water or sewerage and can also convert salt water into
>>>>>>     drinking water both quickly and inexpensively. Other uses are
>>>>>>     in fire fighting applications, ice and snow removal from
>>>>>>     roads, etc. and sterilization and nurturing of soil for
>>>>>>     agriculture where contamination has occurred.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     I had designed a method of making hydrogen from carbon &
>>>>>>     water vapor using the Tesla Atomic Bombardment method of high
>>>>>>     frequency inside of spherical inclosure like this experiments
>>>>>>     with the carbon button lamp globes.   After working with
>>>>>>     Leonard Dorsett and his Super Steam Project, I chose to use
>>>>>>     the Water Shift Process instead.  A side note is needed
>>>>>>     here!  The Super Steam Process was a result of Professor
>>>>>>     Brown studying the method the German's used for torpedo
>>>>>>     propulsion from WWI.  Acetylene Gas and sea water produced an
>>>>>>     exothermic reaction generating Super Steam. Brown built
>>>>>>     several reactors and tested them in the Tulsa area to break
>>>>>>     (down hole) the parafin deposits to release crude oil.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     The Chemical equation for the reaction in the US Patent:
>>>>>>     https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     *(6C + 12 H2O  = 6CO2 + 24H) *
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Hydrogen Reactor Development
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     * *
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Original concept design was a high voltage, high frequency
>>>>>>     resonant device that utilized carbon water reaction with the
>>>>>>     feedstock being in the form of graphite rod stock.  This unit
>>>>>>     was designed for vehicle application and had too many
>>>>>>     limitations to be used for mass hydrogen generation.  This
>>>>>>     type reactor is very effective at hydrogen production since
>>>>>>     it targets the water vapor molecule at MRI frequencies, which
>>>>>>     breaks the bonding, allowing the carbon to latch onto the
>>>>>>     oxygen atoms leaving the hydrogen free. This device was a
>>>>>>     closed system that used a simple CO2/hydrogen separation
>>>>>>     stage that enabled the hydrogen to be feed to an internal
>>>>>>     combustion engine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     * *
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     *To allow for a sustained high mass flow of hydrogen gas
>>>>>>     output, reactor design took on a radical change.  By
>>>>>>     incorporating the Ranque/Hilsch, Counter Flow Implosion
>>>>>>     Vortex Principle, and continuous high mass flow and gas
>>>>>>     separation were achieved in one stage of operation. 
>>>>>>     Feedstock for this type reactor could be any carbon-based
>>>>>>     material that could be put into a powder form.  Highest
>>>>>>     carbon content of the feedstock provides for the most
>>>>>>     efficient hydrogen production with the least undesirable
>>>>>>     output material.*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     * *
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     *Super high temperature operating regime was chosen to be
>>>>>>     above 2500 C for the purpose of producing atomic hydrogen in
>>>>>>     the process.  The original reactor operated at temperatures
>>>>>>     that easily gasified basic carbon into a plasma state
>>>>>>     (>10,000 F) more easily allowing the production of hydrogen
>>>>>>     from the stoichiometric feed stock ratios.*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     *
>>>>>>     *
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     *alt*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     I sold one of my Patents (Sonodiffuser) and paid for my 52
>>>>>>     acres of land and built a 5200 sq. Ft. lab the do the
>>>>>>     Prototype machining and Proof of Concept testing for GAZPROM,
>>>>>>     Moscow in 2005. A $1.2 million investment and they got the
>>>>>>     rights to the process and I got the beautiful Research Lab
>>>>>>     all paid in full. I was a self employed Contractor in Dallas
>>>>>>     working with HVAC, Electrical and Electronics Maintenance so
>>>>>>     had to commute 170 miles/day and only had the week ends for
>>>>>>     my time! Having to mow grass and maintane the 52 acres took
>>>>>>     all my time and when I suffered a neck fracture in 2012, had
>>>>>>     to retire. Liquidated the entire facility and sold it off.
>>>>>>     Moved to Dallas then to South Louisiana where I now do a lot
>>>>>>     of relaxing and fishing!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Hector and ALL, I did my time in the Barrel so now I will
>>>>>>     just contribute to the dialog inorder to assist any research
>>>>>>     you may be doing within my area of experitise!     BTW! I
>>>>>>     have been out to pasture for a long time now, so no BULL
>>>>>>     offense!  As Hector knows, "It fits"! Lol
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     alt
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Yes! Hector, I will wear my Border Patrol Hat when you come
>>>>>>     visit from PR!  Lol
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     On 11/6/2018 8:52 PM, [email protected]
>>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     By the way ... i can hit mega millions or the power ball  .
>>>>>>>     i never will not have a lab i can work in,  that is worst
>>>>>>>     than death , you have no idea of the technology that had
>>>>>>>     being lost by the greedy fucking bastards fucking my life ,
>>>>>>>     they will loose all they have  "soon" because it had being
>>>>>>>     engineered that way by accumulative bad karma, i have
>>>>>>>     another lab they will never reach or be able to intercept or
>>>>>>>     destroy and that will decide their fate ..... they will be
>>>>>>>     fucked hard !
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     (H)   
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     ---In [email protected]
>>>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]>, <mkjekyll@...>
>>>>>>>     <mailto:mkjekyll@...> wrote :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Cmon Hector,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Bad taste!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     The man had a more serious lab than anyone else here and his
>>>>>>>     work speaks for itself.  Maybe he has gained the fortune he
>>>>>>>     desired through R&D and now shitting in tall cotton or gone
>>>>>>>     fishing reaping the rewards of retirement. Notwithstanding
>>>>>>>     is still kind enough to help point us in the right
>>>>>>>     directions around here.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     "*Funny–I can look back on a life of achievement, on
>>>>>>>     challenges met, competitors bested, obstacles overcome. I’ve
>>>>>>>     accomplished more than most men, and without the use of my
>>>>>>>     legs. What?What makes a man, Mr. Lebowski?"*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     On 11/6/2018 8:04 AM, arkresearch@...
>>>>>>>     <mailto:arkresearch@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>          
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         Dar n ! a Scientist inventor with no lab is like a
>>>>>>>>         breeding bull with no balls !
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         Balls Cow GIF - Balls Cow WingDangDoodle GIFs
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         ---In [email protected]
>>>>>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]>, <nwootan@...>
>>>>>>>>         <mailto:nwootan@...> wrote :
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         Jacob! You asked me a question and I gave you my
>>>>>>>>         opinion!  I'm totally retired at 80 years old and have
>>>>>>>>         no lab to experiment in!  Your quote; I heard once a
>>>>>>>>         phrase from a researcher who said. '' Slow down boy, we
>>>>>>>>         get paid for llooking for solutions, not to find
>>>>>>>>         them!''   That certainly does not apply to me for I
>>>>>>>>         have shared all with the folks on this site.  I find
>>>>>>>>         you statement very interesting:  Technics that use up
>>>>>>>>         10 % of a magnet in 24 hours with usual amount of gas
>>>>>>>>         looks to me extremely inefficient.   ??????        Care
>>>>>>>>         to share where you saw the power of a permanent magnet
>>>>>>>>         being used up!   We all here on this site share what
>>>>>>>>         ever knowledge we have on the various subjects not
>>>>>>>>         seeking any monetary gain in any way! That is my
>>>>>>>>         approach!   I just contribute to the dialog when I run
>>>>>>>>         across something interesting and think it will assist
>>>>>>>>         you guys!   Norm
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         On 11/3/2018 11:32 PM, Jakob Wall wall_jakob@...
>>>>>>>>         <mailto:wall_jakob@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             Thanks Norman,
>>>>>>>>>             But i actually asced for ''most efficient way'' to
>>>>>>>>>             split water known to you!
>>>>>>>>>             I realize there are a lot of different technigues
>>>>>>>>>             to do just that.
>>>>>>>>>             And yes i realize you could give me a rather
>>>>>>>>>             complex answer. But instead i hope for a
>>>>>>>>>             rather easy and reproductive answer since i am
>>>>>>>>>             looking forward to solve my enerrgy
>>>>>>>>>             problems i just can not live with the momentary
>>>>>>>>>             (sad and very stupid energy situation)
>>>>>>>>>             I am still not giving up becouse of a couple
>>>>>>>>>             mistakes and misunderstandings.
>>>>>>>>>             If i would be a car dealer and you would ask me
>>>>>>>>>             for a most efficient car available on the market
>>>>>>>>>             i would for sure not recommend a Prius, since
>>>>>>>>>             there are a lot of cars with better fuel economie
>>>>>>>>>             even without being a hybrid and without additional
>>>>>>>>>             cost like batterys,e-motors and a bunch added ECU's
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours
>>>>>>>>>             with usual amount of gas looks to me extremely
>>>>>>>>>             inefficient.
>>>>>>>>>             Also very expensive HHO-Garage products with
>>>>>>>>>             output of 1,6 ltr/min.
>>>>>>>>>             Come on, 6 rusty nails and a old car batery does
>>>>>>>>>             this job, no need to spend 1600 bucks on it.
>>>>>>>>>             I honestly expected solide advise or a honest NO
>>>>>>>>>             way boy, i just talking around.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said.
>>>>>>>>>             '' Slow down boy, we get paid for llooking for
>>>>>>>>>             solutions, not to find them!'' That shoked me
>>>>>>>>>             deeply and even if i get 150 years old, i will not
>>>>>>>>>             forget it.
>>>>>>>>>             Thats true treason on mankind and deciving the
>>>>>>>>>             people. I really hope nobody on this forum only care
>>>>>>>>>             about what he/she will be doing tomorrow.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             Jakob
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             --------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>             On Sun, 10/28/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>>>>>>             <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY]
>>>>>>>>>             <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>             <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's
>>>>>>>>>             Magnetic Battery
>>>>>>>>>             To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>             <mailto:[email protected]>, "Bert Pool"
>>>>>>>>>             <BertPool512@...> <mailto:BertPool512@...>, "Bob
>>>>>>>>>             Paddock" <bob.paddock@...>
>>>>>>>>>             <mailto:bob.paddock@...>, "joel mcclain"
>>>>>>>>>             <joel_76670@...> <mailto:joel_76670@...>, "Jon
>>>>>>>>>             Gentry" <jongen422@...> <mailto:jongen422@...>,
>>>>>>>>>             "Mbking42" <mbking42@...> <mailto:mbking42@...>,
>>>>>>>>>             "Toby Grotz" <wireless2@...>
>>>>>>>>>             <mailto:wireless2@...>, "Phil Rembold"
>>>>>>>>>             <prembold@...> <mailto:prembold@...>, "Angel
>>>>>>>>>             Alvarez" <angel@...> <mailto:angel@...>, "Fredric
>>>>>>>>>             Fletcher" <ffletcher@...> <mailto:ffletcher@...>
>>>>>>>>>             Received: Sunday, October 28, 2018, 9:44 AM
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             Jacob!  That would be a rather complex answer
>>>>>>>>>             but here is your
>>>>>>>>>             starting point!
>>>>>>>>>             https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct-thermomagnetic-splitting-of-water-.html   
>>>>>>>>>             After having been heavily involved in the COLD FUSION
>>>>>>>>>             Research
>>>>>>>>>             back in the 70s and 80s I quickly settled o0n the best
>>>>>>>>>             catalyst in
>>>>>>>>>             electrolytic cells which is pure nickel. I still have
>>>>>>>>>             the cell
>>>>>>>>>             used in the Elemental Replication experiments.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm    
>>>>>>>>>             The hidden
>>>>>>>>>             part of this research is the use of a nickel component
>>>>>>>>>             in the
>>>>>>>>>             combustion chamber. Bosch developed 90,000V ignition
>>>>>>>>>             systems to
>>>>>>>>>             enable water injection in gas engine which high
>>>>>>>>>             lighted the
>>>>>>>>>             Graneau HV decomposition of water via HVDC
>>>>>>>>>             discharge!
>>>>>>>>>             My magnetic Battery when run as an electrolytic cell
>>>>>>>>>             to produce
>>>>>>>>>             hydrogen does produce a huge amount of hydrogen gas as
>>>>>>>>>             shown by
>>>>>>>>>             the Dr. Ehrenhaft document.  I would tell you to
>>>>>>>>>             pursue the super
>>>>>>>>>             high Tesla magnetic flux and nickel electrodes in an
>>>>>>>>>             electrolytic
>>>>>>>>>             cell.  The major obstacle to be overcome is the rapid
>>>>>>>>>             collection
>>>>>>>>>             of ions from solution by the 1.3 Tesla flux across a
>>>>>>>>>             .020"
>>>>>>>>>             mechanical gap which quickly takes the cell into a
>>>>>>>>>             super-conduction mode which takes out the driving DC
>>>>>>>>>             power supply.
>>>>>>>>>             You can flush the magnetic gaps with distilled water
>>>>>>>>>             and the gaps
>>>>>>>>>             will show in the meg-ohm range then go to zero ohms
>>>>>>>>>             after a short
>>>>>>>>>             period of running, the gathered ions totally short
>>>>>>>>>             cell. During
>>>>>>>>>             the brief runs there is a huge amount of hydrogen gas
>>>>>>>>>             produced 
>>>>>>>>>             which I burned off as it was generated.  Much can be
>>>>>>>>>             said about
>>>>>>>>>             driving the cell with high frequencies as the Myers
>>>>>>>>>             research
>>>>>>>>>             showed.  Our friend up in Canada at George Wiseman,
>>>>>>>>>             Eagle Research
>>>>>>>>>             is running well ahead of the crowd on the production
>>>>>>>>>             of H-H-O.
>>>>>>>>>             Just for giggles!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             16 October
>>>>>>>>>             1996
>>>>>>>>>             To: Hal
>>>>>>>>>             Fox,  Fusion Facts
>>>>>>>>>             Elemental
>>>>>>>>>             Replication ?
>>>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>>>                   Around mid
>>>>>>>>>             September
>>>>>>>>>             I put together an
>>>>>>>>>             electrolysis cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold
>>>>>>>>>             Fusion Cell
>>>>>>>>>             with the goal of
>>>>>>>>>             exploring the possibilities of making what is
>>>>>>>>>             termed “Pristine
>>>>>>>>>             Water”.   This water
>>>>>>>>>             which will be used by Homeopaths
>>>>>>>>>             will have had all memory or information
>>>>>>>>>             removed.  This is accomplished by
>>>>>>>>>             recombining monatomic
>>>>>>>>>             hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated in a
>>>>>>>>>             properly
>>>>>>>>>             designed cell.  This is
>>>>>>>>>             the ultimate in purity since this is
>>>>>>>>>             water with conditions at the time of original
>>>>>>>>>             creation.  “Holly Water”is a term
>>>>>>>>>             coined by my dear
>>>>>>>>>             friend and fellow researcher Joe Tyls of
>>>>>>>>>             Vancouver, BC.   After several weeks of
>>>>>>>>>             successful operation
>>>>>>>>>             producing water that had all the earmarks of a
>>>>>>>>>             true “pristine
>>>>>>>>>             water” a fellow
>>>>>>>>>             researcher suggested using an alternate
>>>>>>>>>             electrolyte.   A solution was selected
>>>>>>>>>             that contained 77
>>>>>>>>>             colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the
>>>>>>>>>             easiest
>>>>>>>>>             assimilated into the
>>>>>>>>>             body.   With the
>>>>>>>>>             electrolyte changed the
>>>>>>>>>             cell was put back into operation as before with a
>>>>>>>>>             nice
>>>>>>>>>             recombination burn and
>>>>>>>>>             production of the sought after “pristine
>>>>>>>>>             water”.                                                                                                                                     
>>>>>>>>>                    
>>>>>>>>>                 After about an
>>>>>>>>>             hour of
>>>>>>>>>             operation the cell
>>>>>>>>>             went absolutely “nuts” with the temperature
>>>>>>>>>             rapidly climbing
>>>>>>>>>             to boiling point
>>>>>>>>>             and the current out of sight. 
>>>>>>>>>             When the
>>>>>>>>>             cell was opened we found a deep red sludge deposit
>>>>>>>>>             which
>>>>>>>>>             shorted the cell
>>>>>>>>>             plates.   Our first
>>>>>>>>>             thought was that the
>>>>>>>>>             electrolytic action precipitated out the colloidal
>>>>>>>>>             minerals
>>>>>>>>>             which caused the
>>>>>>>>>             deposit found.   The 
>>>>>>>>>             electrolyte was allowed
>>>>>>>>>             to settle out the
>>>>>>>>>             precipitate.   After 
>>>>>>>>>             decanting off,  the clear electrolyte
>>>>>>>>>             was
>>>>>>>>>             returned to the
>>>>>>>>>             cell for another run. Again the cell operated
>>>>>>>>>             normally for
>>>>>>>>>             about an hour with a
>>>>>>>>>             normal recombination burn and recovery of the
>>>>>>>>>             water being
>>>>>>>>>             consumed by the cell
>>>>>>>>>             in the splitting action.   Again
>>>>>>>>>             the cell
>>>>>>>>>             temperature and current mirrored the first
>>>>>>>>>             run. 
>>>>>>>>>             Again the cell contained the same amount of
>>>>>>>>>             sludge
>>>>>>>>>             residue.   This process
>>>>>>>>>             was repeated ten (10) times
>>>>>>>>>             with exactly the same results.  
>>>>>>>>>             All of
>>>>>>>>>             the sludge was carefully dried and weighed on an
>>>>>>>>>             electronic
>>>>>>>>>             scale with a five
>>>>>>>>>             decimal
>>>>>>>>>             resolution.                     
>>>>>>>>>             The cell plates and all hardware were
>>>>>>>>>             weighed to
>>>>>>>>>             determine any loss of
>>>>>>>>>             mass that may contribute to the mass gain observed
>>>>>>>>>             in the
>>>>>>>>>             sludge.  Five hundred
>>>>>>>>>             (500) ml of the original
>>>>>>>>>             electrolyte solution used in the cell was vacuum
>>>>>>>>>             distilled to
>>>>>>>>>             determine the
>>>>>>>>>             exact mass of colloidal minerals
>>>>>>>>>             contained. 
>>>>>>>>>             When all factors were considered we came
>>>>>>>>>             out with a
>>>>>>>>>             mass gain of  48 gm
>>>>>>>>>             which cannot be explained by
>>>>>>>>>             conventional
>>>>>>>>>             electrolysis.                      
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                 After talking
>>>>>>>>>             to Dr.
>>>>>>>>>             Robert Bass and Hal
>>>>>>>>>             Fox I learned of a patent that has been filed on
>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>             transmutation of elements
>>>>>>>>>             in the cold fusion cell which is the process that
>>>>>>>>>             Dr. John
>>>>>>>>>             Bockris has been so
>>>>>>>>>             active in.   Both Dr.
>>>>>>>>>             Bass and Hal Fox
>>>>>>>>>             stated that what I was observing is not the same
>>>>>>>>>             as the
>>>>>>>>>             transmutation observed
>>>>>>>>>             in the cold fusion cell since I have a overall
>>>>>>>>>             mass gain and
>>>>>>>>>             not a lateral
>>>>>>>>>             movement of elements in the periodic table toward
>>>>>>>>>             lighter
>>>>>>>>>             elements with a
>>>>>>>>>             resulting heat release.  This
>>>>>>>>>             unusual
>>>>>>>>>             cell operation has caused quite a reaction in the
>>>>>>>>>             scientific
>>>>>>>>>             community.  At this
>>>>>>>>>             time I have built a complete new cell
>>>>>>>>>             with every possible factor which could possibly
>>>>>>>>>             explain the
>>>>>>>>>             mass gain
>>>>>>>>>             considered and documented.  The
>>>>>>>>>             ten (10)
>>>>>>>>>             consecutive runs on the new cell will be completed
>>>>>>>>>             soon and a
>>>>>>>>>             report will be
>>>>>>>>>             forthcoming.   What is
>>>>>>>>>             interesting about
>>>>>>>>>             this phenomenon is that when an eleventh run was
>>>>>>>>>             made with the
>>>>>>>>>             original
>>>>>>>>>             electrolyte exactly the same amount of residue was
>>>>>>>>>             recovered
>>>>>>>>>             as in the previous
>>>>>>>>>             ten
>>>>>>>>>             runs.                                                                       
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>>>             Since
>>>>>>>>>             the same electrolyte is reused each time with only
>>>>>>>>>             distilled
>>>>>>>>>             water being added
>>>>>>>>>             to replace the volume lost by the removal of the
>>>>>>>>>             solids and
>>>>>>>>>             the water recovered
>>>>>>>>>             by the recombination burn we are hard pressed to
>>>>>>>>>             explain the
>>>>>>>>>             observed
>>>>>>>>>             phenomenon.     The
>>>>>>>>>             electrolyte appears
>>>>>>>>>             stronger in mineral concentration and shows no
>>>>>>>>>             sign of
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             depletion.                                
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                After conferring
>>>>>>>>>             with
>>>>>>>>>             Joe Tyls we arrived at
>>>>>>>>>             the conclusion that the 77 colloidal minerals
>>>>>>>>>             contained in the
>>>>>>>>>             electrolyte
>>>>>>>>>             provide the atomic templates needed for the
>>>>>>>>>             monatomic hydrogen
>>>>>>>>>             (father of all
>>>>>>>>>             the elements) to replicate selected elements in
>>>>>>>>>             this exotic
>>>>>>>>>             mixture.  If you
>>>>>>>>>             subscribe to the theories of the late
>>>>>>>>>             Walter Russell and his explanation of the octave
>>>>>>>>>             based
>>>>>>>>>             periodic table with
>>>>>>>>>             monatonic hydrogen being what he describes as
>>>>>>>>>             hydrons
>>>>>>>>>             (precursor to hydrogen)
>>>>>>>>>             then it is possible for the replication of
>>>>>>>>>             elements directly
>>>>>>>>>             from energy input
>>>>>>>>>             alone.  This is how all
>>>>>>>>>             matter was
>>>>>>>>>             created in the beginning as described by
>>>>>>>>>             Schappeller in “The
>>>>>>>>>             Physics of the
>>>>>>>>>             Primary State of Matter”.    I
>>>>>>>>>             will keep
>>>>>>>>>             all informed as to our progress and findings in
>>>>>>>>>             this very
>>>>>>>>>             intriguing venture.
>>>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>>>             Norman
>>>>>>>>>             Wootan
>>>>>>>>>             P.O.
>>>>>>>>>             Box 141049
>>>>>>>>>             Dallas,
>>>>>>>>>             TX 75214
>>>>>>>>>             (214)
>>>>>>>>>             360-0865
>>>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>>>             CC:  Gene Mallove,
>>>>>>>>>             Infinite
>>>>>>>>>             Energy
>>>>>>>>>             CC:  Dr. John
>>>>>>>>>             Bockris, Texas
>>>>>>>>>             A/M
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             On 10/28/2018 1:01 AM,
>>>>>>>>>             Jakob Wall
>>>>>>>>>             wall_jakob@... <mailto:wall_jakob@...>
>>>>>>>>>             [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             Thanks Norman,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             BTW, what is the most effective water split
>>>>>>>>>             device that
>>>>>>>>>             you ever put you hands on?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             As HHO researcher for dekades you should be
>>>>>>>>>             able to point
>>>>>>>>>             us directly to the most effective known!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             Please be specific about reconstruction of the
>>>>>>>>>             same, since
>>>>>>>>>             we are in public domain it will become public
>>>>>>>>>             knowledge
>>>>>>>>>             and public good. I assume you intend nothing
>>>>>>>>>             else,rigth ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             --------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             On Sat, 10/27/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>>>>>>             <mailto:nwootan@...>
>>>>>>>>>             [EVGRAY]
>>>>>>>>>             <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>             <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>             wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's
>>>>>>>>>             Magnetic
>>>>>>>>>             Battery [3 Attachments]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             To: "Bert Pool" <BertPool512@...>
>>>>>>>>>             <mailto:BertPool512@...>,
>>>>>>>>>             "Bob
>>>>>>>>>             Paddock" <bob.paddock@...> <mailto:bob.paddock@...>,
>>>>>>>>>             "joel mcclain"
>>>>>>>>>             <joel_76670@...> <mailto:joel_76670@...>,
>>>>>>>>>             "Jon Gentry"
>>>>>>>>>             <jongen422@...> <mailto:jongen422@...>,
>>>>>>>>>             "Lane Wootan"
>>>>>>>>>             <lanewootan@...> <mailto:lanewootan@...>,
>>>>>>>>>             "Mbking42"
>>>>>>>>>             <mbking42@...> <mailto:mbking42@...>,
>>>>>>>>>             "Toby Grotz"
>>>>>>>>>             <wireless2@...> <mailto:wireless2@...>,
>>>>>>>>>             "Phil Rembold"
>>>>>>>>>             <prembold@...> <mailto:prembold@...>,
>>>>>>>>>             "Angel Alvarez"
>>>>>>>>>             <angel@...> <mailto:angel@...>,
>>>>>>>>>             "Fredric Fletcher"
>>>>>>>>>             <ffletcher@...> <mailto:ffletcher@...>,
>>>>>>>>>             [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             To understand the unwinding of a thread
>>>>>>>>>             leading
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             to Magnetic
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             Generating Hydrogen and this Magnetic Battery,
>>>>>>>>>             we have
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             to dust off
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             our  9th grade Chemistry Books!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             http://www.rexresearch.com/ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm     
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             I guess Dr.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             Ehrenhaft was the first to propose a Magnetic
>>>>>>>>>             Current.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             (Jon
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             Gentry, Your liquid metal vortex helix).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             https://revolution-green.com/can-electrolysis-powered-magnets/      
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             Ah! Ha!  more on Magnetic Currents!!!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446.html
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             https://www.labmanager.com/white-papers-and-application-notes/2010/05/resistivity-conductivity-measurement-of-purified-water#.W9So9uJRc2w
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             https://www.askiitians.com/forums/Physical-Chemistry/19/19074/electro-che
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpotential
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             https://www.quora.com/Why-is-oxygen-molecule-paramagnetic-although-it-does-not-contain-any-unpaired-electron
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251580541_The_effect_of_magnetic_force_on_hydrogen_production_efficiency_in_water_electrolysis
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             http://www.physicscentral.com/experiment/physicsathome/electricwhirlpool.cfm
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             http://www.linux-host.org/energy/bmagpump.htm
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             Now Jon Gentry you have your liquid metal pump
>>>>>>>>>             so
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             that you can
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             make the helix tube Vortex! 
>>>>>>>>>             Ferricpetacarbonyl or
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             micro fine neo
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             powder to provide the liquid metal for pump
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             circuit.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             Lots of reading here!     Please think
>>>>>>>>>             about the
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             ramifications of
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             a Magnetic Current as proposed by Dr.
>>>>>>>>>             Ehrenhaft!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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Kone,

Strangely enough this has not happened here in Oregon, that's the old
days of growing I think.  I was waiting for big gang shootouts too,
never happened.  Since they can't use banks they drive the cash up to
Salem to pay the taxes.  These dispensary people are traveling with big
dough, a lot easier to hit than pulling semis into a grow operation.   
It takes trucks to move all they are growing now.  I know some grower
folks who were doing close to a million a year, now prices have dropped
and everything taxed they are barely getting by.   Money here was
supposed to go to the cops but they are complaining about shortfalls and
writing bonds for new jails and other bullshit.  Just like the lotto
going to schools the weed money is being stolen by the govn mafia.  A
few months back there was a release of the PERS retirement data for govn
workers.  Many of these people are making more than they ever did
working sometimes double and high six figures.  Meanwhile they keep
raising the property tax each year to pay these retirements of which
they are claiming we are 22 billion in the red. 

Check out this shit:

https://gov.oregonlive.com/pers/


On 11/11/2018 11:21 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> Hi Bart
>
> Thanks for all your posts and contributions here!!
>
> Worst thing to look out for in grow operations is gangs (russian
> bikers mexicans chinese vietnamese etc etc etc) finding where is grow
> operation then breaking in and stealing everything as soon as.its
> ready for market. What are you going to do shoot everyone? Cops can be
> put in caatevory of gangs too, they are corrupt everywhere in world,
> carry guns, look out for only themselves get away with.murder all the
> time.
> Let those guys with small army private army do the growing you could
> provide technical expertise...look into putting neodymium magnet under
> roots of plants.. pot itself not so bad but what they will dip the
> shitty leftover in is what is fucked up formaldahyde (aka dank) ,
> meth, heroin, opium, speed, evev viagra wbo knows what is in the
> shit...legal is good since you know what it is at least but those
> already established illegal pot growers are pissed when it goes legal
> and will break in and steal no problem if site becomes known...in your
> town I think is biker gangs controlling weed market...biker gangs and
> cops sometimes symbiotic
> Kone
>
>
https://www.ageofautism.com/2016/04/lets-go-find-unvaccinated-children-with-autism.html

On 11/12/2018 1:35 PM, bart woodard [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> Mick Kone
>
>                      Kone as usual your advice and words do not go
> unheard. Thank you.
>
> Yourself as well Mick. It seems as tho everyday now the yesterday day
> becomes the old way .
>
> As well,  the rules change on a constant.
>
> Those parties you mentioned Kone , now mostly wear suits and own the
> convenience store as well as the shopping mall, your local politician,
> cop , school teacher and so on.
>
> Ultimately the world now dictates our streets. Not we as individuals
> so much. Canada is looked at as mini America more globally now. Trying
> its best to benefit from Americas mistakes and create a new path
> economically.
>
> Such as growing dope, developing AI  etc.
>
> As I mentioned I went to India for six months  and befriended some
> ministers, wow corruption at its best.   But there  , its the way of life.
>
> Clearly we are not India , we are however doing the same exercise,
> just different facades. Its mankind's crap of  order, tho it is at
> least that I suppose.
>
>  But I do hear your advice's. Perhaps I should not have even mentioned it.
>
> The wife found some cheap tickets to Calgary so we went the weekend
> before last to visit our daughter.
>
> We also took with our newly adopted son whom showed up on our doorstep
> from the University lol
>
> he is Indian (India)  . His girlfriend also came along . We managed to
> get them  employment where my daughter was working at.
>
> A facility for full time stay for autism children. I do think my water
> would help the children but daughter said its not certified , So no we
> could not.
>
> Frustrating, especially since it does show help on some studies. But
> the wife says its not clinically proven.
>
> While there we went to Banff
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banff,_Alberta
>
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banff,_Alberta>
> 	
> Banff, Alberta - Wikipedia <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banff,_Alberta>
> en.wikipedia.org
> Banff is a town within Banff National Park in Alberta, Canada.It is
> located in Alberta's Rockies along the Trans-Canada Highway,
> approximately 126 km (78 mi) west of Calgary and 58 km (36 mi) east of
> Lake Louise.At an elevation of 1,400 m (4,600 ft) to 1,630 m (5,350
> ft), Banff is the community with the second highest elevation in
> Alberta after Lake Louise.
>
> We went up on the Gondola and had lunch.  Vinay our son from India
> says yup  we are up where the goats screw and the eagles fly!
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of
> Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* November 12, 2018 10:49 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery
>  
>  
>
> Kone,
>
> Strangely enough this has not happened here in Oregon, that's the old
> days of growing I think.  I was waiting for big gang shootouts too,
> never happened.  Since they can't use banks they drive the cash up to
> Salem to pay the taxes.  These dispensary people are traveling with
> big dough, a lot easier to hit than pulling semis into a grow
> operation.    It takes trucks to move all they are growing now.  I
> know some grower folks who were doing close to a million a year, now
> prices have dropped and everything taxed they are barely getting by.  
> Money here was supposed to go to the cops but they are complaining
> about shortfalls and writing bonds for new jails and other bullshit. 
> Just like the lotto going to schools the weed money is being stolen by
> the govn mafia.  A few months back there was a release of the PERS
> retirement data for govn workers.  Many of these people are making
> more than they ever did working sometimes double and high six
> figures.  Meanwhile they keep raising the property tax each year to
> pay these retirements of which they are claiming we are 22 billion in
> the red. 
>
> Check out this shit:
>
> https://gov.oregonlive.com/pers/
>
> <https://gov.oregonlive.com/pers/>
> 	
> Oregon Public Employees Retirement System :: Your ...
> <https://gov.oregonlive.com/pers/>
> gov.oregonlive.com
> Here are the 129,544 people with pension benefits from the Oregon
> Public Employees Retirement System as of Jan. 1, 2018.
>
>
> On 11/11/2018 11:21 PM, [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>  
>>
>> Hi Bart
>>
>> Thanks for all your posts and contributions here!!
>>
>> Worst thing to look out for in grow operations is gangs (russian
>> bikers mexicans chinese vietnamese etc etc etc) finding where is grow
>> operation then breaking in and stealing everything as soon as.its
>> ready for market. What are you going to do shoot everyone? Cops can
>> be put in caatevory of gangs too, they are corrupt everywhere in
>> world, carry guns, look out for only themselves get away with.murder
>> all the time.
>> Let those guys with small army private army do the growing you could
>> provide technical expertise...look into putting neodymium magnet
>> under roots of plants.. pot itself not so bad but what they will dip
>> the shitty leftover in is what is fucked up formaldahyde (aka dank) ,
>> meth, heroin, opium, speed, evev viagra wbo knows what is in the
>> shit...legal is good since you know what it is at least but those
>> already established illegal pot growers are pissed when it goes legal
>> and will break in and steal no problem if site becomes known...in
>> your town I think is biker gangs controlling weed market...biker
>> gangs and cops sometimes symbiotic
>> Kone
>>
>
Hi  Mick
Hard to say what is on the books and off with "legal" growers as reporting too much profit means too much taxes to pay. I bet only 1/10th of harvest and sales is usually reported
It's all a racket witht payoffs to inspectors lawyers judges gangs cops local mafias all necessary to stay alive if growing weed the chosen profession
Kone

[38/92] Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery

2018-11-12T21:35:58+00:00 · bart woodard <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <YQBPR0101MB072131C01817CC4C47C29F55CEC10@YQBPR0101MB0721.CANPRD01.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
Mick Kone

                     Kone as usual your advice and words do not go unheard. Thank you.

Yourself as well Mick. It seems as tho everyday now the yesterday day becomes the old way .

As well,  the rules change on a constant.

Those parties you mentioned Kone , now mostly wear suits and own the convenience store as well as the shopping mall, your local politician, cop , school teacher and so on.

Ultimately the world now dictates our streets. Not we as individuals so much. Canada is looked at as mini America more globally now. Trying its best to benefit from Americas mistakes and create a new path economically.

Such as growing dope, developing AI  etc.

As I mentioned I went to India for six months  and befriended some ministers, wow corruption at its best.   But there  , its the way of life.

Clearly we are not India , we are however doing the same exercise, just different facades. Its mankind's crap of  order, tho it is at least that I suppose.

 But I do hear your advice's. Perhaps I should not have even mentioned it.

The wife found some cheap tickets to Calgary so we went the weekend before last to visit our daughter.

We also took with our newly adopted son whom showed up on our doorstep from the University lol

he is Indian (India)  . His girlfriend also came along . We managed to get them  employment where my daughter was working at.

A facility for full time stay for autism children. I do think my water would help the children but daughter said its not certified , So no we could not.

Frustrating, especially since it does show help on some studies. But the wife says its not clinically proven.

While there we went to Banff

<https://www.canada.ca/en/health-canada/services/drugs-medication/cannabis/medical-use-cannabis.html>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banff,_Alberta

[https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/57/Banff.JPG]<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banff,_Alberta>

Banff, Alberta - Wikipedia<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banff,_Alberta>
en.wikipedia.org
Banff is a town within Banff National Park in Alberta, Canada.It is located in Alberta's Rockies along the Trans-Canada Highway, approximately 126 km (78 mi) west of Calgary and 58 km (36 mi) east of Lake Louise.At an elevation of 1,400 m (4,600 ft) to 1,630 m (5,350 ft), Banff is the community with the second highest elevation in Alberta after Lake Louise.


We went up on the Gondola and had lunch.  Vinay our son from India says yup  we are up where the goats screw and the eagles fly!

________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
Sent: November 12, 2018 10:49 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery



Kone,

Strangely enough this has not happened here in Oregon, that's the old days of growing I think.  I was waiting for big gang shootouts too, never happened.  Since they can't use banks they drive the cash up to Salem to pay the taxes.  These dispensary people are traveling with big dough, a lot easier to hit than pulling semis into a grow operation.    It takes trucks to move all they are growing now.  I know some grower folks who were doing close to a million a year, now prices have dropped and everything taxed they are barely getting by.   Money here was supposed to go to the cops but they are complaining about shortfalls and writing bonds for new jails and other bullshit.  Just like the lotto going to schools the weed money is being stolen by the govn mafia.  A few months back there was a release of the PERS retirement data for govn workers.  Many of these people are making more than they ever did working sometimes double and high six figures.  Meanwhile they keep raising the property tax each year to pay these retirements of which they are claiming we are 22 billion in the red.

Check out this shit:

https://gov.oregonlive.com/pers/

[http://gov.oregonlive.com/images/bigtop.png]<https://gov.oregonlive.com/pers/>

Oregon Public Employees Retirement System :: Your ...<https://gov.oregonlive.com/pers/>
gov.oregonlive.com
Here are the 129,544 people with pension benefits from the Oregon Public Employees Retirement System as of Jan. 1, 2018.



On 11/11/2018 11:21 PM, [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:


Hi Bart

Thanks for all your posts and contributions here!!

Worst thing to look out for in grow operations is gangs (russian bikers mexicans chinese vietnamese etc etc etc) finding where is grow operation then breaking in and stealing everything as soon as.its ready for market. What are you going to do shoot everyone? Cops can be put in caatevory of gangs too, they are corrupt everywhere in world, carry guns, look out for only themselves get away with.murder all the time.
Let those guys with small army private army do the growing you could provide technical expertise...look into putting neodymium magnet under roots of plants.. pot itself not so bad but what they will dip the shitty leftover in is what is fucked up formaldahyde (aka dank) , meth, heroin, opium, speed, evev viagra wbo knows what is in the shit...legal is good since you know what it is at least but those already established illegal pot growers are pissed when it goes legal and will break in and steal no problem if site becomes known...in your town I think is biker gangs controlling weed market...biker gangs and cops sometimes symbiotic
Kone
here is one Bart

https://www.marsvenus.com/assets/downloads/john-gray-autism-lost-and-found-ebook-5-2014.pdf

On 11/12/2018 5:49 PM, bart woodard [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> Hello James,
>
>    Ok did some looking , the author is John Gray, which one?
>
> If you can recall.
>
>
>     Books and other publications
>
>   * 1992 /Men Are from Mars, Women Are from Venus
>     <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men_Are_from_Mars,_Women_Are_from_Venus>/
>   * 1993 /What You Feel You Can Heal/
>   * 1994 /What Your Mother Couldn't Tell You & Your Father Didn't Know/
>   * 1994 /Mars and Venus in Love/
>   * 1995 /Mars and Venus in the Bedroom
>     <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_and_Venus_in_the_Bedroom>/
>   * 1997 /Mars and Venus on a Date/
>   * 1997 /Mars and Venus Starting Over/
>   * 1999 /How To Get What You Want and Want What You Have/
>   * 2000 /Children Are from Heaven/
>   * 2000 /Mars and Venus: 365 Ways to Keep Passion Alive/
>   * /Men, Women and Relationships/
>   * /Mars and Venus Together Forever: A Practical Guide to Creating
>     Lasting Intimacy/
>   * /Men Are from Mars, Women Are from Venus Book of Days/
>   * /Practical Miracles for Mars and Venus: Nine Principles for
>     Lasting Love, Increasing Success, and Vibrant Health in the
>     Twenty-first Century/
>   * /Mars and Venus in the Workplace/
>   * /Truly Mars & Venus/
>   * 2003 /The Mars & Venus Diet & Exercise Solution/
>   * 2007 /Why Mars and Venus Collide: Improving Relationships by
>     Understanding How Men and Women Cope Differently with Stress/
>   * 2010 /Venus on Fire, Mars on Ice – Hormonal Balance – The Key to
>     Life, Love, and Energy/
>   * /75 Ways To Say I Love You/ (Co-Author Darren Stephens) ISBN
>     <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Standard_Book_Number> 9780957974012
>     <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:BookSources/9780957974012>
>   * /How To Release Stress Through Relaxation/ (Co-Author Darren
>     Stephens) ISBN
>     <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Standard_Book_Number> 9780957974005
>     <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:BookSources/9780957974005>
>   * /Work with Me: The 8 Blind Spots Between Men and Women in
>     Business/ (Co-Author Barbara Annis) ISBN
>     <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Standard_Book_Number> 9780230341906
>     <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:BookSources/9780230341906>
>   * 2017 /Beyond Mars and Venus/
>
>
>
> John Gray Ph.D. - marsvenus.com
> <https://www.marsvenus.com/assets/downloads/john-gray-autism-lost-and-found-ebook-5-2014.pdf>
> www.marsvenus.com
> 5 Chapter One Lost and Found: Natural Solutions For Autism Spectrum
> Disorder Many of the ideas in this book are contained in my trilogy
> Staying Focused In A Hyper World; Natural Solutions For ADHD, Memory and
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of
> James Glinski [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* November 12, 2018 7:19 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery
>  
>  
>
> Bart
> The guy that wrote men are from Mars and woman are from Venus . said
> in his clinic n California he used to cure case after case of autism
> and it was so simple that he put the protocols in a large book he was
> writing .this is many years ago .he gave out free PDFs of the book for
> several days and I found the information around page 162 there abouts
> . he said it's caused not by the mercury but the money puss .it's not
> completely dead and logged in the brain .he killed the seeds by hot
> water baths under certain conditions the heat kills it .but he said
> that it would work OK but on some cases they returned with it again so
> a new set of protocols  were made .to make sure all was dead this
> required a return treatment several days later .but after that they
> were cured . it's a big book  with a lot of other stuff that I didn't
> need .so I lost interest in it .my Nice's son has it but didn't
> believe it .and now he's in his twenties carrying that crap around .
> it's like there's to much money in it to stop it the kids end up
> messed up to fill somebody's bank account . good luck .
>
> On Nov 12, 2018 4:29 PM, "bart woodard [email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>      
>
>     Mick Kone
>
>                          Kone as usual your advice and words do not go
>     unheard. Thank you.
>
>     Yourself as well Mick. It seems as tho everyday now the yesterday
>     day becomes the old way .
>
>     As well,  the rules change on a constant.
>
>     Those parties you mentioned Kone , now mostly wear suits and own
>     the convenience store as well as the shopping mall, your local
>     politician, cop , school teacher and so on.
>
>     Ultimately the world now dictates our streets. Not we as
>     individuals so much. Canada is looked at as mini America more
>     globally now. Trying its best to benefit from Americas mistakes
>     and create a new path economically.
>
>     Such as growing dope, developing AI  etc.
>
>     As I mentioned I went to India for six months  and befriended some
>     ministers, wow corruption at its best.   But there  , its the way
>     of life.
>
>     Clearly we are not India , we are however doing the same exercise,
>     just different facades. Its mankind's crap of  order, tho it is at
>     least that I suppose.
>
>      But I do hear your advice's. Perhaps I should not have even
>     mentioned it.
>
>     The wife found some cheap tickets to Calgary so we went the
>     weekend before last to visit our daughter.
>
>     We also took with our newly adopted son whom showed up on our
>     doorstep from the University lol
>
>     he is Indian (India)  . His girlfriend also came along . We
>     managed to get them  employment where my daughter was working at.
>
>     A facility for full time stay for autism children. I do think my
>     water would help the children but daughter said its not certified
>     , So no we could not.
>
>     Frustrating, especially since it does show help on some studies.
>     But the wife says its not clinically proven.
>
>     While there we went to Banff
>
>     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banff,_Alberta
>     <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banff,_Alberta>
>
>     <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banff,_Alberta>
>     	
>     Banff, Alberta - Wikipedia
>     <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banff,_Alberta>
>     en.wikipedia.org <http://en.wikipedia.org>
>     Banff is a town within Banff National Park in Alberta, Canada.It
>     is located in Alberta's Rockies along the Trans-Canada Highway,
>     approximately 126 km (78 mi) west of Calgary and 58 km (36 mi)
>     east of Lake Louise.At an elevation of 1,400 m (4,600 ft) to 1,630
>     m (5,350 ft), Banff is the community with the second highest
>     elevation in Alberta after Lake Louise.
>
>     We went up on the Gondola and had lunch.  Vinay our son from India
>     says yup  we are up where the goats screw and the eagles fly!
>
>
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>     *From:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>     <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf
>     of Mick [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
>     <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>     *Sent:* November 12, 2018 10:49 AM
>     *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>     *Subject:* Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery
>      
>      
>
>     Kone,
>
>     Strangely enough this has not happened here in Oregon, that's the
>     old days of growing I think.  I was waiting for big gang shootouts
>     too, never happened.  Since they can't use banks they drive the
>     cash up to Salem to pay the taxes.  These dispensary people are
>     traveling with big dough, a lot easier to hit than pulling semis
>     into a grow operation.    It takes trucks to move all they are
>     growing now.  I know some grower folks who were doing close to a
>     million a year, now prices have dropped and everything taxed they
>     are barely getting by.   Money here was supposed to go to the cops
>     but they are complaining about shortfalls and writing bonds for
>     new jails and other bullshit.  Just like the lotto going to
>     schools the weed money is being stolen by the govn mafia.  A few
>     months back there was a release of the PERS retirement data for
>     govn workers.  Many of these people are making more than they ever
>     did working sometimes double and high six figures.  Meanwhile they
>     keep raising the property tax each year to pay these retirements
>     of which they are claiming we are 22 billion in the red. 
>
>     Check out this shit:
>
>     https://gov.oregonlive.com/pers/ <https://gov.oregonlive.com/pers/>
>
>     <https://gov.oregonlive.com/pers/>
>     	
>     Oregon Public Employees Retirement System :: Your ...
>     <https://gov.oregonlive.com/pers/>
>     gov.oregonlive.com <http://gov.oregonlive.com>
>     Here are the 129,544 people with pension benefits from the Oregon
>     Public Employees Retirement System as of Jan. 1, 2018.
>
>
>     On 11/11/2018 11:21 PM, [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>     [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>      
>>
>>     Hi Bart
>>
>>     Thanks for all your posts and contributions here!!
>>
>>     Worst thing to look out for in grow operations is gangs (russian
>>     bikers mexicans chinese vietnamese etc etc etc) finding where is
>>     grow operation then breaking in and stealing everything as soon
>>     as.its ready for market. What are you going to do shoot everyone?
>>     Cops can be put in caatevory of gangs too, they are corrupt
>>     everywhere in world, carry guns, look out for only themselves get
>>     away with.murder all the time.
>>     Let those guys with small army private army do the growing you
>>     could provide technical expertise...look into putting neodymium
>>     magnet under roots of plants.. pot itself not so bad but what
>>     they will dip the shitty leftover in is what is fucked up
>>     formaldahyde (aka dank) , meth, heroin, opium, speed, evev viagra
>>     wbo knows what is in the shit...legal is good since you know what
>>     it is at least but those already established illegal pot growers
>>     are pissed when it goes legal and will break in and steal no
>>     problem if site becomes known...in your town I think is biker
>>     gangs controlling weed market...biker gangs and cops sometimes
>>     symbiotic
>>     Kone
>>
>

[40/92] Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery

2018-11-13T00:19:14+00:00 · james glinski <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <CA+uJ=neRcmoTpG3TjAykCBz_kpfyH5ptz=FJhB6MHcCYix8bFA@mail.gmail.com>
Bart
The guy that wrote men are from Mars and woman are from Venus . said in his
clinic n California he used to cure case after case of autism and it was so
simple that he put the protocols in a large book he was writing .this is
many years ago .he gave out free PDFs of the book for several days and I
found the information around page 162 there abouts . he said it's caused
not by the mercury but the money puss .it's not completely dead and logged
in the brain .he killed the seeds by hot water baths under certain
conditions the heat kills it .but he said that it would work OK but on some
cases they returned with it again so a new set of protocols  were made .to
make sure all was dead this required a return treatment several days later
.but after that they were cured . it's a big book  with a lot of other
stuff that I didn't need .so I lost interest in it .my Nice's son has it
but didn't believe it .and now he's in his twenties carrying that crap
around . it's like there's to much money in it to stop it the kids end up
messed up to fill somebody's bank account . good luck .
On Nov 12, 2018 4:29 PM, "bart woodard [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <
[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> Mick Kone
>
>                      Kone as usual your advice and words do not go
> unheard. Thank you.
>
> Yourself as well Mick. It seems as tho everyday now the yesterday day
> becomes the old way .
>
> As well,  the rules change on a constant.
>
> Those parties you mentioned Kone , now mostly wear suits and own the
> convenience store as well as the shopping mall, your local politician, cop
> , school teacher and so on.
>
> Ultimately the world now dictates our streets. Not we as individuals so
> much. Canada is looked at as mini America more globally now. Trying its
> best to benefit from Americas mistakes and create a new path economically.
>
> Such as growing dope, developing AI  etc.
>
> As I mentioned I went to India for six months  and befriended some
> ministers, wow corruption at its best.   But there  , its the way of life.
>
> Clearly we are not India , we are however doing the same exercise, just
> different facades. Its mankind's crap of  order, tho it is at least that I
> suppose.
>
>  But I do hear your advice's. Perhaps I should not have even mentioned it.
>
> The wife found some cheap tickets to Calgary so we went the weekend before
> last to visit our daughter.
>
> We also took with our newly adopted son whom showed up on our doorstep
> from the University lol
>
> he is Indian (India)  . His girlfriend also came along . We managed to get
> them  employment where my daughter was working at.
>
> A facility for full time stay for autism children. I do think my water
> would help the children but daughter said its not certified , So no we
> could not.
>
> Frustrating, especially since it does show help on some studies. But the
> wife says its not clinically proven.
>
> While there we went to Banff
>
>
> <https://www.canada.ca/en/health-canada/services/drugs-medication/cannabis/medical-use-cannabis.html>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banff,_Alberta
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banff,_Alberta>
> Banff, Alberta - Wikipedia <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banff,_Alberta>
> en.wikipedia.org
> Banff is a town within Banff National Park in Alberta, Canada.It is
> located in Alberta's Rockies along the Trans-Canada Highway, approximately
> 126 km (78 mi) west of Calgary and 58 km (36 mi) east of Lake Louise.At an
> elevation of 1,400 m (4,600 ft) to 1,630 m (5,350 ft), Banff is the
> community with the second highest elevation in Alberta after Lake Louise.
>
> We went up on the Gondola and had lunch.  Vinay our son from India says
> yup  we are up where the goats screw and the eagles fly!
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Mick
> [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* November 12, 2018 10:49 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery
>
>
>
> Kone,
>
> Strangely enough this has not happened here in Oregon, that's the old days
> of growing I think.  I was waiting for big gang shootouts too, never
> happened.  Since they can't use banks they drive the cash up to Salem to
> pay the taxes.  These dispensary people are traveling with big dough, a lot
> easier to hit than pulling semis into a grow operation.    It takes trucks
> to move all they are growing now.  I know some grower folks who were doing
> close to a million a year, now prices have dropped and everything taxed
> they are barely getting by.   Money here was supposed to go to the cops but
> they are complaining about shortfalls and writing bonds for new jails and
> other bullshit.  Just like the lotto going to schools the weed money is
> being stolen by the govn mafia.  A few months back there was a release of
> the PERS retirement data for govn workers.  Many of these people are making
> more than they ever did working sometimes double and high six figures.
> Meanwhile they keep raising the property tax each year to pay these
> retirements of which they are claiming we are 22 billion in the red.
>
> Check out this shit:
>
> https://gov.oregonlive.com/pers/
> <https://gov.oregonlive.com/pers/>
> Oregon Public Employees Retirement System :: Your ...
> <https://gov.oregonlive.com/pers/>
> gov.oregonlive.com
> Here are the 129,544 people with pension benefits from the Oregon Public
> Employees Retirement System as of Jan. 1, 2018.
>
>
> On 11/11/2018 11:21 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi Bart
>
> Thanks for all your posts and contributions here!!
>
> Worst thing to look out for in grow operations is gangs (russian bikers
> mexicans chinese vietnamese etc etc etc) finding where is grow operation
> then breaking in and stealing everything as soon as.its ready for market.
> What are you going to do shoot everyone? Cops can be put in caatevory of
> gangs too, they are corrupt everywhere in world, carry guns, look out for
> only themselves get away with.murder all the time.
> Let those guys with small army private army do the growing you could
> provide technical expertise...look into putting neodymium magnet under
> roots of plants.. pot itself not so bad but what they will dip the shitty
> leftover in is what is fucked up formaldahyde (aka dank) , meth, heroin,
> opium, speed, evev viagra wbo knows what is in the shit...legal is good
> since you know what it is at least but those already established illegal
> pot growers are pissed when it goes legal and will break in and steal no
> problem if site becomes known...in your town I think is biker gangs
> controlling weed market...biker gangs and cops sometimes symbiotic
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