Body
Bart, I have been drinking 4 liters a day of Magnet Treated Water sine
Dr. John Miliweski introduced it to me back in 2001. You may have seen
how my unit is constructed sine I have posted it before.
On 11/10/2018 12:45 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Bart,
>
> Your information including on your cat is very interesting.� I have
> been using distilled water that is first softened and then RO� then
> distilled beginning from my well.�� It has a similar "drying" effect
> as norms wholly water though not as pronounced.
>
> Could you please provide more information on your experiments
> concerning distilled water and using the magnetic stirrer and how that
> alkalizes the water?�� The NMR and parahydrogen post if very long
> winded so difficult for me to get the gist of your presentation.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mick
>
>
> On 11/10/2018 10:37 AM, bart woodard [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>> I use a magnetic stirrer with distilled and wait for the ph to rise,
>> the results are immediate.
>>
>> https://hannainst.com/hi190m-1-magnetic-mini-stirrer.html
>>
>> Mini Magnetic Stirrer (115V) - HI190M-1 - Hanna Instruments
>> <https://hannainst.com/hi190m-1-magnetic-mini-stirrer.html>
>> hannainst.com
>> Compact. Lightweight. This mini magnetic stirrer with plastic cover
>> can stir up to 1 liter. Big power, small footprint. Perfect for any lab!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of
>> Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
>> *Sent:* November 10, 2018 12:34 PM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery [2
>> Attachments]
>>
>> No!� Bart, never got into that exotic element stuff!� Just
>> followed those that were!
>>
>> On 11/10/2018 10:42 AM, bart woodard [email protected]
>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>> �
>>>
>>> Hey Norm , your life's experiences have been fruitful!! Congrats!!
>>>
>>> Have you ever played with table top combinations� such as thorium
>>> and fluoride or the molten salt combo?
>>>
>>> On a hobbyist� basis approach?
>>>
>>> Rossi likes to inject nickel/mag� powder so as I see to maintain
>>> his 1k output!.
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> *From:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> on behalf
>>> of Norman Wootan [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
>>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>> *Sent:* November 9, 2018 3:12 PM
>>> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>> *Subject:* Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery [2
>>> Attachments]
>>> �
>>> �
>>>
>>> Mick! To answer the rest of your questions:� In that ARC process
>>> you have to use carbon rods to yield the carbon monoxide &
>>> hydrogen.� (carbon source) (arc is heat source).
>>>
>>> Holy Water was interesting part of the Elemental Replication
>>> experiment. See:�
>>>
>>> *Elemental Replication ?*
>>>
>>> *�*
>>>
>>> ����� Around mid September I put together an electrolysis
>>> cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold Fusion Cell with the goal of
>>> exploring the possibilities of making what is termed �Pristine
>>> Water�.�� This water which will be used by Homeopaths will
>>> have had all memory or information removed.� This is accomplished
>>> by recombining monatomic hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated
>>> in a properly designed cell.� This is the ultimate in purity since
>>> this is water with conditions at the time of original creation.�
>>> �Wholy Water�is a term coined by my dear friend and fellow
>>> researcher Joe Tyls of Vancouver, BC.�� After several weeks of
>>> successful operation producing water that had all the earmarks of a
>>> true �pristine water� a fellow researcher suggested using an
>>> alternate electrolyte.�� A solution was selected that contained
>>> 77 colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the easiest
>>> assimilated into the body.�� With the electrolyte changed the
>>> cell was put back into operation as before with a nice recombination
>>> burn and production of the sought after �pristine water�.���
>>>
>>>
>>> The water produced in the recombination burn of the H-H-O was
>>> collected from a silica glass condenser into a silica glass beaker
>>> for sampling.� When you flipped several CCs of the water into your
>>> mouth and tried to swallow, there was nothing there.� Hmmmm!� We
>>> immediately tested the viscosity and surface tension of the water
>>> and found it to be far below human blood which means that the water
>>> diffused directly into the capillaries around the tongue therefore
>>> nothing there to swallow.� The two Doctor who were there were
>>> amazed. � To prove the theory as to information carried by water,
>>> we collected a sample of several CCs into a plastic lab cup instead
>>> of the silica glass beaker. When you flipped the several CCs into
>>> your mouth you had to immediately spit it out for it was pure taste
>>> of plastic. This water picks up signature of anything it comes into
>>> contact with.� That is why the Homeopathic Doctors wanted it for
>>> making their tinctures.��� (signature of a healing agent).
>>> ��� We had all the necessary instruments to evaluate the
>>> Pristine water. See: � https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemorheology
>>>
>>> Hemorheology - Wikipedia <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemorheology>
>>> en.m.wikipedia.org
>>> Blood viscosity is a measure of the resistance of blood to flow. It
>>> can also be described as the thickness and stickiness of blood. This
>>> biophysical property makes it a critical determinant of friction
>>> against the vessel walls, the rate of venous return, the work
>>> required for the heart to pump blood, and how much oxygen is
>>> transported to tissues and organs.
>>>
>>> ��
>>> http://www.dynalenelabs.com/testing-services/thermal-testing/viscosity-rheology/?gclid=CjwKCAiA_ZTfBRBjEiwAN6YG4SdHu5bWZ9yHLBM9VNQ0TLl4tB1hOqMvR_dOEHNbGX6k_kDHHtb5xhoCgIgQAvD_BwE
>>> �������� https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tensiometer
>>>
>>> � https://hydramotion.com/en/technical/units-of-viscosity
>>>
>>> I made an offer to the Doctors present that a small unit for
>>> production of a liter/day of Pristine Water via complete unit built
>>> of quartz glass could be had for $5,000. Apparently they were not
>>> that enthused as we thought!� Oh! Well!
>>>
>>> I built numerous Pyramids of all sizes and the Orgone Accumulators
>>> and even the Cloud� Buster.�� The pyramid experiments were
>>> very interesting for real effects were shown.�� Never tested
>>> whether water would� break after treatment by either Orgone� or
>>> pyramid.��� The complete description of the 4 inch cell is in
>>> the Elemental replication Part Two. See:
>>>
>>>
>>> Cell Description
>>>
>>> �
>>>
>>> ��� The electrolysis cell is designed to hold one (1) liter of
>>> electrolyte and operate at approximately 150 watt power level for
>>> the production of monatomic hydrogen and� monatomic oxygen which
>>> is burned back to pure water and collected in a glass condenser.�
>>> Cell container is schedule 40 PVC pipe section 6 inches long with
>>> bottom cap cemented on.� The top of the cell has a 4 inch female
>>> thread adapter cemented on to provide access to the interior via a
>>> male threaded plug which has the gas outlet port and two electrolyte
>>> fill ports to provide for replacement of lost electrolyte on the fly
>>> for continuos operation.� Positive and negative terminals are
>>> provided for external connection of the power supply leads to the
>>> internal anode- cathode stack.
>>>
>>> ��� The cell plate stack consist of 8 anode plates and 8
>>> cathode plates of the following sizes constructed from 316L
>>> stainless steel of 22 ga. thickness.
>>>
>>> 4 ea.� 3� X 3� plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 2.75�plates,� 2 ea.
>>> 3� X 2.5�plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 2.25� plates,� 2 ea. 3� X
>>> 2� plates,� 2 ea. 3� X 1.75� plates, and� 2 ea. 3� X
>>> 1.5� plates.� The plates are drilled and stacked with
>>> alternating anode and cathode plates spaced 1/8� apart which makes
>>> a cylindrical shaped array which fits nicely inside of the 4� ID
>>> PVC� cell container.� Electrical leads are braided copper of #10
>>> size which are covered by shrink tubing to cover conductive surface
>>> as they pass through the electrolyte to the cell terminal bolts.�
>>> All electrical surfaces other than the anode and cathode plates are
>>> carefully covered with PVC cement to prevent deterioration from
>>> electrolyte contact.��� Please note that if allowed to come
>>> into contact with �charged� surfaces monatomic hydrogen and
>>> monatonic oxygen will imediately form into their usual occuring
>>> state as diatomic H2 and O2 molecules.
>>>
>>> ���������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/8/2018 4:29 PM, Mick [email protected]
>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>> �
>>>>
>>>> Hi Norm,
>>>>
>>>> The catalysts are very interesting.� Iron Cobalt and Nickel all
>>>> ferromagnetic but at different spins.
>>>>
>>>> Correct me if I am wrong but based on reading your links a
>>>> bingofuel type reactor using tungsten electrodes that hopefully
>>>> would last much longer would likely produce OH rather than H and
>>>> carbon monoxide, what do you think?
>>>>
>>>> Also water is strange indeed in that a pyramid or orgone
>>>> accumulator changes it and these simple changes could make for
>>>> water that breaks up more easily.� I would love to know what
>>>> results you demonstrated with the totally juvenile memory free
>>>> water you put back together from the OH?�
>>>>
>>>> Sorry to hear about your neck fracture, I have a similar issue and
>>>> it is extremely painful and debilitating at times.
>>>>
>>>> Mick
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11/7/2018 4:15 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected]
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>> �
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/7/2018 6:06 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jakob Wall! & all other researchers on here need to read the
>>>>>> Whole Story as to why I no longer have a research lab.� Jakob,
>>>>>> I'm sorry I did not reveal to you the BEST in my opinion of
>>>>>> methods of producing hydrogen gas for I felt it was a little too
>>>>>> advanced and difficult for you to experiment with.� See:
>>>>>> https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en .�� There is
>>>>>> a very long story behind this US Patent and a hell of a lot of
>>>>>> research. The quest for a very inexpensive method of splitting
>>>>>> water has been the Holy Grail of� cheap energy.�� In
>>>>>> addition to the research papers and links that I gave to you,
>>>>>> here are some more to dwell on.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.researchgate.net/post/At_what_temperature_water_will_decompose_to_Oxygen_and_Hydrogen
>>>>>> <https://www..researchgate.net/post/At_what_temperature_water_will_decompose_to_Oxygen_and_Hydrogen>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.quora.com/Does-water-break-down-into-oxygen-and-hydrogen-at-high-temperatures-If-so-then-at-what-temperature
>>>>>> <https://www..quora.com/Does-water-break-down-into-oxygen-and-hydrogen-at-high-temperatures-If-so-then-at-what-temperature>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.quora.com/How-much-water-can-you-split-into-hydrogen-and-oxygen-using-electrolysis-with-one-kilowatt-hour-of-electricity
>>>>>> <https://www..quora.com/How-much-water-can-you-split-into-hydrogen-and-oxygen-using-electrolysis-with-one-kilowatt-hour-of-electricity>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.redrok.com/hion96a1.htm
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.nature.com/articles/nplants201741
>>>>>> <https://www..nature.com/articles/nplants201741>�� Please
>>>>>> read carefully about the play of Nickel in this approach!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_splitting
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water-gas_shift_reaction���
>>>>>> I owned 77 acres of land in Eureka Springs, AR where they still
>>>>>> had the old water gas generator and gas storage facility.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decarboxylation
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://phys.org/news/2018-02-uncovers-mechanism-water-splitting-catalyst.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/new-catalyst-could-split-water-cheaply/
>>>>>> <https://www..scientificamerican.com/article/new-catalyst-could-split-water-cheaply/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.technologyreview.com/s/512996/a-cheaper-way-to-make-hydrogen-from-water/
>>>>>> <https://www..technologyreview.com/s/512996/a-cheaper-way-to-make-hydrogen-from-water/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "*SUPER STEAM* - A Tesla conference in Colorado surfaces new
>>>>>> Super Steam Technology (SST). Leonard Dorsett and friends from
>>>>>> Texas share strikingly similar views to Aquarian Agency Ltd. They
>>>>>> have technology which produces steam instantly at up to 3,000F
>>>>>> without a boiler and with 60% savings in fuel over traditional
>>>>>> boilers. Nitrogen rich, it can put out gasoline fires and treat
>>>>>> many waste problems. Of major importance to Aquarian, this
>>>>>> nitrogen-rich steam will help to produce heat and Aquastone at
>>>>>> considerable savings."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For further information on Aquarian Agency Ltd. they can be
>>>>>> contacted at 38 Weir Rd, Wimbledon, London SW19 SUG, England or
>>>>>> on Internet at <aquarian ocign.ape.org>. *_SUPER STEAM TECHNOLOGY
>>>>>> PART 2_*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Leonard Dorsett (PO Box 365, Grapevine, TX 76092) demonstrated
>>>>>> his Super Steam Technology at the 1994 International Tesla
>>>>>> Symposium. SST is a system for producing steam at any temperature
>>>>>> or pressure independently and instantly without the need for a
>>>>>> conventional boiler. It can instantly produce steam of any
>>>>>> temperature from hot water at 180F to super heated steam at over
>>>>>> 3000F, while pressures can vary from 1PSI to 3000PSI with airflow
>>>>>> volumes of 1CFM up to over 2000CFM. The system operates on
>>>>>> propane, methane, petrol, kerosene, methanol, diesel, hydrogen or
>>>>>> just about anything else that bums and converts virtually 100% of
>>>>>> the fuel into usable energy. (Note: The person in the picture is
>>>>>> Norman Wootan of MRA fame)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This all sounds great, but how does it work? The basis of the
>>>>>> unit is a specially designed open throat chamber with controlled
>>>>>> air, water and fuel interaction and a high voltage ignition
>>>>>> resulting in a direct fire process establishing thermal zones.
>>>>>> This creates a stoichiometric condition resulting in a full
>>>>>> spectrum of steam product. Now comes the interesting part At the
>>>>>> increased temperatures of steam, disassociation occurs. (Could
>>>>>> this be a clue to running cars on water??) The hydrogen and
>>>>>> oxygen reacts causing an exponential increase of energy resulting
>>>>>> in super heated steam. A similar superheat process was addressed
>>>>>> by Tesla in the October 12, 1911 publication of the "Engineering
>>>>>> News Record".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Applications of the SST system include a much more economical way
>>>>>> of producing electricity as no conventional boiler is needed. It
>>>>>> will also be an ideal low cost method for heating and cooling
>>>>>> homes and businesses. Small portable units can be developed for
>>>>>> home use, such as steam cleaning, and insect and ant removal,
>>>>>> without the dangers of insecticides. The system can also be used
>>>>>> for low cost purification of polluted water or sewerage and can
>>>>>> also convert salt water into drinking water both quickly and
>>>>>> inexpensively. Other uses are in fire fighting applications, ice
>>>>>> and snow removal from roads, etc. and sterilization and nurturing
>>>>>> of soil for agriculture where contamination has occurred.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I had designed a method of making hydrogen from carbon & water
>>>>>> vapor using the Tesla Atomic Bombardment method of high frequency
>>>>>> inside of spherical inclosure like this experiments with the
>>>>>> carbon button lamp globes.�� After working with Leonard
>>>>>> Dorsett and his Super Steam Project, I chose to use the Water
>>>>>> Shift Process instead.� A side note is needed here!� The
>>>>>> Super Steam Process was a result of Professor Brown studying the
>>>>>> method the German's used for torpedo propulsion from WWI.�
>>>>>> Acetylene Gas and sea water produced an exothermic reaction
>>>>>> generating Super Steam. Brown built several reactors and tested
>>>>>> them in the Tulsa area to break (down hole) the parafin deposits
>>>>>> to release crude oil.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Chemical equation for the reaction in the US Patent:
>>>>>> https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *(6C + 12 H2O� = 6CO2 + 24H) *
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hydrogen Reactor Development
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *�*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Original concept design was a high voltage, high frequency
>>>>>> resonant device that utilized carbon water reaction with the
>>>>>> feedstock being in the form of graphite rod stock.� This unit
>>>>>> was designed for vehicle application and had too many limitations
>>>>>> to be used for mass hydrogen generation.� This type reactor is
>>>>>> very effective at hydrogen production since it targets the water
>>>>>> vapor molecule at MRI frequencies, which breaks the bonding,
>>>>>> allowing the carbon to latch onto the oxygen atoms leaving the
>>>>>> hydrogen free. This device was a closed system that used a simple
>>>>>> CO2/hydrogen separation stage that enabled the hydrogen to be
>>>>>> feed to an internal combustion engine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *�*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *To allow for a sustained high mass flow of hydrogen gas output,
>>>>>> reactor design took on a radical change.� By incorporating the
>>>>>> Ranque/Hilsch, Counter Flow Implosion Vortex Principle, and
>>>>>> continuous high mass flow and gas separation were achieved in one
>>>>>> stage of operation.� Feedstock for this type reactor could be
>>>>>> any carbon-based material that could be put into a powder
>>>>>> form.� Highest carbon content of the feedstock provides for the
>>>>>> most efficient hydrogen production with the least undesirable
>>>>>> output material.*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *�*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Super high temperature operating regime was chosen to be above
>>>>>> 2500 C for the purpose of producing atomic hydrogen in the
>>>>>> process.� The original reactor operated at temperatures that
>>>>>> easily gasified basic carbon into a plasma state (>10,000 F) more
>>>>>> easily allowing the production of hydrogen from the
>>>>>> stoichiometric feed stock ratios.*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *
>>>>>> *
>>>>>>
>>>>>> **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I sold one of my Patents (Sonodiffuser) and paid for my 52 acres
>>>>>> of land and built a 5200 sq. Ft. lab the do the Prototype
>>>>>> machining and Proof of Concept testing for GAZPROM, Moscow in
>>>>>> 2005. A $1.2 million investment and they got the rights to the
>>>>>> process and I got the beautiful Research Lab all paid in full. I
>>>>>> was a self employed Contractor in Dallas working with HVAC,
>>>>>> Electrical and Electronics Maintenance so had to commute 170
>>>>>> miles/day and only had the week ends for my time! Having to mow
>>>>>> grass and maintane the 52 acres took all my time and when I
>>>>>> suffered a neck fracture in 2012, had to retire. Liquidated the
>>>>>> entire facility and sold it off. Moved to Dallas then to South
>>>>>> Louisiana where I now do a lot of relaxing and fishing!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hector and ALL, I did my time in the Barrel so now I will just
>>>>>> contribute to the dialog inorder to assist any research you may
>>>>>> be doing within my area of experitise!���� BTW! I have
>>>>>> been out to pasture for a long time now, so no BULL offense!�
>>>>>> As Hector knows, "It fits"! Lol
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes! Hector, I will wear my Border Patrol Hat when you come visit
>>>>>> from PR!� Lol
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/6/2018 8:52 PM, [email protected]
>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>> �
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> By the way ... i can hit mega millions or the power ball� . i
>>>>>>> never will not have a lab i can work in,� that is worst than
>>>>>>> death , you have no idea of the technology that had being lost
>>>>>>> by the greedy fucking bastards fucking my life , they will loose
>>>>>>> all they have� "soon" because it had being engineered that way
>>>>>>> by accumulative bad karma, i have another lab they will never
>>>>>>> reach or be able to intercept or destroy and that will decide
>>>>>>> their fate ..... they will be fucked hard !
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (H)� �
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ---In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>,
>>>>>>> <mkjekyll@...> <mailto:mkjekyll@...> wrote :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cmon Hector,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bad taste!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The man had a more serious lab than anyone else here and his
>>>>>>> work speaks for itself.� Maybe he has gained the fortune he
>>>>>>> desired through R&D and now shitting in tall cotton or gone
>>>>>>> fishing reaping the rewards of retirement. Notwithstanding is
>>>>>>> still kind enough to help point us in the right directions
>>>>>>> around here.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "*Funny�I can look back on a life of achievement, on
>>>>>>> challenges met, competitors bested, obstacles overcome. I�ve
>>>>>>> accomplished more than most men, and without the use of my legs.
>>>>>>> What?What makes a man, Mr. Lebowski?"*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11/6/2018 8:04 AM, arkresearch@... <mailto:arkresearch@...>
>>>>>>> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> �
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dar n ! a Scientist inventor with no lab is like a breeding
>>>>>>>> bull with no balls !
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Balls Cow GIF - Balls Cow WingDangDoodle GIFs
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ---In [email protected]
>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>, <nwootan@...>
>>>>>>>> <mailto:nwootan@...> wrote :
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jacob! You asked me a question and I gave you my
>>>>>>>> opinion!� I'm totally retired at 80 years old and have no
>>>>>>>> lab to experiment in!� Your quote; I heard once a phrase
>>>>>>>> from a researcher who said. '' Slow down boy, we get paid
>>>>>>>> for llooking for solutions, not to find them!''�� That
>>>>>>>> certainly does not apply to me for I have shared all with
>>>>>>>> the folks on this site.� I find you statement very
>>>>>>>> interesting:� Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24
>>>>>>>> hours with usual amount of gas looks to me extremely
>>>>>>>> inefficient.�� ??????������� Care to
>>>>>>>> share where you saw the power of a permanent magnet being
>>>>>>>> used up!�� We all here on this site share what ever
>>>>>>>> knowledge we have on the various subjects not seeking any
>>>>>>>> monetary gain in any way! That is my approach!�� I just
>>>>>>>> contribute to the dialog when I run across something
>>>>>>>> interesting and think it will assist you guys!�� Norm
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 11/3/2018 11:32 PM, Jakob Wall wall_jakob@...
>>>>>>>> <mailto:wall_jakob@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> �
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks Norman,
>>>>>>>>> But i actually asced for ''most efficient way'' to
>>>>>>>>> split water known to you!
>>>>>>>>> I realize there are a lot of different technigues to
>>>>>>>>> do just that.
>>>>>>>>> And yes i realize you could give me a rather complex
>>>>>>>>> answer. But instead i hope for a
>>>>>>>>> rather easy and reproductive answer since i am looking
>>>>>>>>> forward to solve my enerrgy
>>>>>>>>> problems i just can not live with the momentary (sad
>>>>>>>>> and very stupid energy situation)
>>>>>>>>> I am still not giving up becouse of a couple mistakes
>>>>>>>>> and misunderstandings..
>>>>>>>>> If i would be a car dealer and you would ask me for a
>>>>>>>>> most efficient car available on the market
>>>>>>>>> i would for sure not recommend a Prius, since there
>>>>>>>>> are a lot of cars with better fuel economie
>>>>>>>>> even without being a hybrid and without additional
>>>>>>>>> cost like batterys,e-motors and a bunch added ECU's
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours with
>>>>>>>>> usual amount of gas looks to me extremely
>>>>>>>>> inefficient.
>>>>>>>>> Also very expensive HHO-Garage products with output of
>>>>>>>>> 1,6 ltr/min.
>>>>>>>>> Come on, 6 rusty nails and a old car batery does this
>>>>>>>>> job, no need to spend 1600 bucks on it.
>>>>>>>>> I honestly expected solide advise or a honest NO way
>>>>>>>>> boy, i just talking around.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. ''
>>>>>>>>> Slow down boy, we get paid for llooking for
>>>>>>>>> solutions, not to find them!'' That shoked me deeply
>>>>>>>>> and even if i get 150 years old, i will not forget it.
>>>>>>>>> Thats true treason on mankind and deciving the people.
>>>>>>>>> I really hope nobody on this forum only care
>>>>>>>>> about what he/she will be doing tomorrow.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jakob
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 10/28/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic
>>>>>>>>> Battery
>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>, "Bert Pool"
>>>>>>>>> <BertPool512@...> <mailto:BertPool512@...>, "Bob
>>>>>>>>> Paddock" <bob.paddock@...> <mailto:bob.paddock@...>,
>>>>>>>>> "joel mcclain" <joel_76670@...>
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:joel_76670@...>, "Jon Gentry" <jongen422@...>
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:jongen422@...>, "Mbking42" <mbking42@...>
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:mbking42@...>, "Toby Grotz" <wireless2@...>
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:wireless2@...>, "Phil Rembold" <prembold@...>
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:prembold@...>, "Angel Alvarez" <angel@...>
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:angel@...>, "Fredric Fletcher" <ffletcher@...>
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:ffletcher@...>
>>>>>>>>> Received: Sunday, October 28, 2018, 9:44 AM
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> �
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jacob!� That would be a rather complex answer
>>>>>>>>> but here is your
>>>>>>>>> starting point!
>>>>>>>>> https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct-thermomagnetic-splitting-of-water-.html���
>>>>>>>>> After having been heavily involved in the COLD FUSION
>>>>>>>>> Research
>>>>>>>>> back in the 70s and 80s I quickly settled o0n the best
>>>>>>>>> catalyst in
>>>>>>>>> electrolytic cells which is pure nickel. I still have
>>>>>>>>> the cell
>>>>>>>>> used in the Elemental Replication experiments.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm����
>>>>>>>>> The hidden
>>>>>>>>> part of this research is the use of a nickel component
>>>>>>>>> in the
>>>>>>>>> combustion chamber. Bosch developed 90,000V ignition
>>>>>>>>> systems to
>>>>>>>>> enable water injection in gas engine which high
>>>>>>>>> lighted the
>>>>>>>>> Graneau HV decomposition of water via HVDC
>>>>>>>>> discharge!
>>>>>>>>> My magnetic Battery when run as an electrolytic cell
>>>>>>>>> to produce
>>>>>>>>> hydrogen does produce a huge amount of hydrogen gas as
>>>>>>>>> shown by
>>>>>>>>> the Dr. Ehrenhaft document.� I would tell you to
>>>>>>>>> pursue the super
>>>>>>>>> high Tesla magnetic flux and nickel electrodes in an
>>>>>>>>> electrolytic
>>>>>>>>> cell.� The major obstacle to be overcome is the rapid
>>>>>>>>> collection
>>>>>>>>> of ions from solution by the 1.3 Tesla flux across a
>>>>>>>>> ..020"
>>>>>>>>> mechanical gap which quickly takes the cell into a
>>>>>>>>> super-conduction mode which takes out the driving DC
>>>>>>>>> power supply.
>>>>>>>>> You can flush the magnetic gaps with distilled water
>>>>>>>>> and the gaps
>>>>>>>>> will show in the meg-ohm range then go to zero ohms
>>>>>>>>> after a short
>>>>>>>>> period of running, the gathered ions totally short
>>>>>>>>> cell. During
>>>>>>>>> the brief runs there is a huge amount of hydrogen gas
>>>>>>>>> produced�
>>>>>>>>> which I burned off as it was generated.� Much can be
>>>>>>>>> said about
>>>>>>>>> driving the cell with high frequencies as the Myers
>>>>>>>>> research
>>>>>>>>> showed.� Our friend up in Canada at George Wiseman,
>>>>>>>>> Eagle Research
>>>>>>>>> is running well ahead of the crowd on the production
>>>>>>>>> of H-H-O.
>>>>>>>>> Just for giggles!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 16 October
>>>>>>>>> 1996
>>>>>>>>> To: Hal
>>>>>>>>> Fox,� Fusion Facts
>>>>>>>>> Elemental
>>>>>>>>> Replication ?
>>>>>>>>> �
>>>>>>>>> ����� Around mid
>>>>>>>>> September
>>>>>>>>> I put together an
>>>>>>>>> electrolysis cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold
>>>>>>>>> Fusion Cell
>>>>>>>>> with the goal of
>>>>>>>>> exploring the possibilities of making what is
>>>>>>>>> termed �Pristine
>>>>>>>>> Water�.�� This water
>>>>>>>>> which will be used by Homeopaths
>>>>>>>>> will have had all memory or information
>>>>>>>>> removed.� This is accomplished by
>>>>>>>>> recombining monatomic
>>>>>>>>> hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated in a
>>>>>>>>> properly
>>>>>>>>> designed cell.� This is
>>>>>>>>> the ultimate in purity since this is
>>>>>>>>> water with conditions at the time of original
>>>>>>>>> creation.� �Holly Water�is a term
>>>>>>>>> coined by my dear
>>>>>>>>> friend and fellow researcher Joe Tyls of
>>>>>>>>> Vancouver, BC.�� After several weeks of
>>>>>>>>> successful operation
>>>>>>>>> producing water that had all the earmarks of a
>>>>>>>>> true �pristine
>>>>>>>>> water� a fellow
>>>>>>>>> researcher suggested using an alternate
>>>>>>>>> electrolyte.�� A solution was selected
>>>>>>>>> that contained 77
>>>>>>>>> colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the
>>>>>>>>> easiest
>>>>>>>>> assimilated into the
>>>>>>>>> body.�� With the
>>>>>>>>> electrolyte changed the
>>>>>>>>> cell was put back into operation as before with a
>>>>>>>>> nice
>>>>>>>>> recombination burn and
>>>>>>>>> production of the sought after �pristine
>>>>>>>>> water�.�������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������������
>>>>>>>>> �������
>>>>>>>>> ��� After about an
>>>>>>>>> hour of
>>>>>>>>> operation the cell
>>>>>>>>> went absolutely �nuts� with the temperature
>>>>>>>>> rapidly climbing
>>>>>>>>> to boiling point
>>>>>>>>> and the current out of sight.�
>>>>>>>>> When the
>>>>>>>>> cell was opened we found a deep red sludge deposit
>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>> shorted the cell
>>>>>>>>> plates.�� Our first
>>>>>>>>> thought was that the
>>>>>>>>> electrolytic action precipitated out the colloidal
>>>>>>>>> minerals
>>>>>>>>> which caused the
>>>>>>>>> deposit found.�� The�
>>>>>>>>> electrolyte was allowed
>>>>>>>>> to settle out the
>>>>>>>>> precipitate.�� After�
>>>>>>>>> decanting off,� the clear electrolyte
>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>> returned to the
>>>>>>>>> cell for another run. Again the cell operated
>>>>>>>>> normally for
>>>>>>>>> about an hour with a
>>>>>>>>> normal recombination burn and recovery of the
>>>>>>>>> water being
>>>>>>>>> consumed by the cell
>>>>>>>>> in the splitting action.�� Again
>>>>>>>>> the cell
>>>>>>>>> temperature and current mirrored the first
>>>>>>>>> run.�
>>>>>>>>> Again the cell contained the same amount of
>>>>>>>>> sludge
>>>>>>>>> residue.�� This process
>>>>>>>>> was repeated ten (10) times
>>>>>>>>> with exactly the same results.��
>>>>>>>>> All of
>>>>>>>>> the sludge was carefully dried and weighed on an
>>>>>>>>> electronic
>>>>>>>>> scale with a five
>>>>>>>>> decimal
>>>>>>>>> resolution.���������������������
>>>>>>>>> The cell plates and all hardware were
>>>>>>>>> weighed to
>>>>>>>>> determine any loss of
>>>>>>>>> mass that may contribute to the mass gain observed
>>>>>>>>> in the
>>>>>>>>> sludge.� Five hundred
>>>>>>>>> (500) ml of the original
>>>>>>>>> electrolyte solution used in the cell was vacuum
>>>>>>>>> distilled to
>>>>>>>>> determine the
>>>>>>>>> exact mass of colloidal minerals
>>>>>>>>> contained.�
>>>>>>>>> When all factors were considered we came
>>>>>>>>> out with a
>>>>>>>>> mass gain of� 48 gm
>>>>>>>>> which cannot be explained by
>>>>>>>>> conventional
>>>>>>>>> electrolysis.����������������������
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ��� After talking
>>>>>>>>> to Dr.
>>>>>>>>> Robert Bass and Hal
>>>>>>>>> Fox I learned of a patent that has been filed on
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> transmutation of elements
>>>>>>>>> in the cold fusion cell which is the process that
>>>>>>>>> Dr. John
>>>>>>>>> Bockris has been so
>>>>>>>>> active in.�� Both Dr.
>>>>>>>>> Bass and Hal Fox
>>>>>>>>> stated that what I was observing is not the same
>>>>>>>>> as the
>>>>>>>>> transmutation observed
>>>>>>>>> in the cold fusion cell since I have a overall
>>>>>>>>> mass gain and
>>>>>>>>> not a lateral
>>>>>>>>> movement of elements in the periodic table toward
>>>>>>>>> lighter
>>>>>>>>> elements with a
>>>>>>>>> resulting heat release.� This
>>>>>>>>> unusual
>>>>>>>>> cell operation has caused quite a reaction in the
>>>>>>>>> scientific
>>>>>>>>> community. �At this
>>>>>>>>> time I have built a complete new cell
>>>>>>>>> with every possible factor which could possibly
>>>>>>>>> explain the
>>>>>>>>> mass gain
>>>>>>>>> considered and documented.� The
>>>>>>>>> ten (10)
>>>>>>>>> consecutive runs on the new cell will be completed
>>>>>>>>> soon and a
>>>>>>>>> report will be
>>>>>>>>> forthcoming.�� What is
>>>>>>>>> interesting about
>>>>>>>>> this phenomenon is that when an eleventh run was
>>>>>>>>> made with the
>>>>>>>>> original
>>>>>>>>> electrolyte exactly the same amount of residue was
>>>>>>>>> recovered
>>>>>>>>> as in the previous
>>>>>>>>> ten
>>>>>>>>> runs.�����������������������������������������������������������������������
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> �
>>>>>>>>> Since
>>>>>>>>> the same electrolyte is reused each time with only
>>>>>>>>> distilled
>>>>>>>>> water being added
>>>>>>>>> to replace the volume lost by the removal of the
>>>>>>>>> solids and
>>>>>>>>> the water recovered
>>>>>>>>> by the recombination burn we are hard pressed to
>>>>>>>>> explain the
>>>>>>>>> observed
>>>>>>>>> phenomenon.���� The
>>>>>>>>> electrolyte appears
>>>>>>>>> stronger in mineral concentration and shows no
>>>>>>>>> sign of
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> depletion.��������������������������������
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> �� After conferring
>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>> Joe Tyls we arrived at
>>>>>>>>> the conclusion that the 77 colloidal minerals
>>>>>>>>> contained in the
>>>>>>>>> electrolyte
>>>>>>>>> provide the atomic templates needed for the
>>>>>>>>> monatomic hydrogen
>>>>>>>>> (father of all
>>>>>>>>> the elements) to replicate selected elements in
>>>>>>>>> this exotic
>>>>>>>>> mixture.� If you
>>>>>>>>> subscribe to the theories of the late
>>>>>>>>> Walter Russell and his explanation of the octave
>>>>>>>>> based
>>>>>>>>> periodic table with
>>>>>>>>> monatonic hydrogen being what he describes as
>>>>>>>>> hydrons
>>>>>>>>> (precursor to hydrogen)
>>>>>>>>> then it is possible for the replication of
>>>>>>>>> elements directly
>>>>>>>>> from energy input
>>>>>>>>> alone.� This is how all
>>>>>>>>> matter was
>>>>>>>>> created in the beginning as described by
>>>>>>>>> Schappeller in �The
>>>>>>>>> Physics of the
>>>>>>>>> Primary State of Matter�.��� I
>>>>>>>>> will keep
>>>>>>>>> all informed as to our progress and findings in
>>>>>>>>> this very
>>>>>>>>> intriguing venture.
>>>>>>>>> �
>>>>>>>>> Norman
>>>>>>>>> Wootan
>>>>>>>>> P.O.
>>>>>>>>> Box 141049
>>>>>>>>> Dallas,
>>>>>>>>> TX 75214
>>>>>>>>> (214)
>>>>>>>>> 360-0865
>>>>>>>>> �
>>>>>>>>> �
>>>>>>>>> CC:� Gene Mallove,
>>>>>>>>> Infinite
>>>>>>>>> Energy
>>>>>>>>> CC:� Dr. John
>>>>>>>>> Bockris, Texas
>>>>>>>>> A/M
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 10/28/2018 1:01 AM,
>>>>>>>>> Jakob Wall
>>>>>>>>> wall_jakob@... <mailto:wall_jakob@...>
>>>>>>>>> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> �
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks Norman,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> BTW, what is the most effective water split
>>>>>>>>> device that
>>>>>>>>> you ever put you hands on?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As HHO researcher for dekades you should be
>>>>>>>>> able to point
>>>>>>>>> us directly to the most effective known!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Please be specific about reconstruction of the
>>>>>>>>> same, since
>>>>>>>>> we are in public domain it will become public
>>>>>>>>> knowledge
>>>>>>>>> and public good. I assume you intend nothing
>>>>>>>>> else,rigth ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 10/27/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:nwootan@...>
>>>>>>>>> [EVGRAY]
>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's
>>>>>>>>> Magnetic
>>>>>>>>> Battery [3 Attachments]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> To: "Bert Pool" <BertPool512@...>
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:BertPool512@...>,
>>>>>>>>> "Bob
>>>>>>>>> Paddock" <bob.paddock@...> <mailto:bob.paddock@...>,
>>>>>>>>> "joel mcclain"
>>>>>>>>> <joel_76670@...> <mailto:joel_76670@...>,
>>>>>>>>> "Jon Gentry"
>>>>>>>>> <jongen422@...> <mailto:jongen422@...>,
>>>>>>>>> "Lane Wootan"
>>>>>>>>> <lanewootan@...> <mailto:lanewootan@...>,
>>>>>>>>> "Mbking42"
>>>>>>>>> <mbking42@...> <mailto:mbking42@....>,
>>>>>>>>> "Toby Grotz"
>>>>>>>>> <wireless2@...> <mailto:wireless2@...>,
>>>>>>>>> "Phil Rembold"
>>>>>>>>> <prembold@...> <mailto:prembold@....>,
>>>>>>>>> "Angel Alvarez"
>>>>>>>>> <angel@...> <mailto:angel@...>,
>>>>>>>>> "Fredric Fletcher"
>>>>>>>>> <ffletcher@...> <mailto:ffletcher@...>,
>>>>>>>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> To understand the unwinding of a thread
>>>>>>>>> leading
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> to Magnetic
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Generating Hydrogen and this Magnetic Battery,
>>>>>>>>> we have
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> to dust off
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> our� 9th grade Chemistry Books!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.rexresearch.com/ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm�����
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I guess Dr.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ehrenhaft was the first to propose a Magnetic
>>>>>>>>> Current.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> (Jon
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Gentry, Your liquid metal vortex helix).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://revolution-green.com/can-electrolysis-powered-magnets/������
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ah! Ha!� more on Magnetic Currents!!!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446..html
>>>>>>>>> <https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446.html>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.labmanager.com/white-papers-and-application-notes/2010/05/resistivity-conductivity-measurement-of-purified-water#.W9So9uJRc2w
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.askiitians.com/forums/Physical-Chemistry/19/19074/electro-che
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpotential
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.quora.com/Why-is-oxygen-molecule-paramagnetic-although-it-does-not-contain-any-unpaired-electron
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251580541_The_effect_of_magnetic_force_on_hydrogen_production_efficiency_in_water_electrolysis
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.physicscentral.com/experiment/physicsathome/electricwhirlpool.cfm
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.linux-host.org/energy/bmagpump.htm
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Now Jon Gentry you have your liquid metal pump
>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> that you can
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> make the helix tube Vortex!�
>>>>>>>>> Ferricpetacarbonyl or
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> micro fine neo
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> powder to provide the liquid metal for pump
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> circuit.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Lots of reading here!���� Please think
>>>>>>>>> about the
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ramifications of
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> a Magnetic Current as proposed by Dr.
>>>>>>>>> Ehrenhaft!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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