Body
Jakob,
You may also have a look at this as it's a less complex version
incorporating a couple of Norms findings allegedly allowing for enough
power to run internal combustion engines from water and a carbon arc.
The name is funny as it's a pun from the lexicon of a pilot one never
wants to hear from the cockpit. If the pilot says bingofuel to ATC that
means he thinks he may have just enough fuel to the drop to land the
plane so clear me for a runway and get the emergency crews there.
http://bingofuel.online.fr/bingofuel/html/bfr10.htm
On 11/7/2018 4:15 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
>
>
> On 11/7/2018 6:06 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>
>> Jakob Wall! & all other researchers on here need to read the Whole
>> Story as to why I no longer have a research lab. Jakob, I'm sorry I
>> did not reveal to you the BEST in my opinion of methods of producing
>> hydrogen gas for I felt it was a little too advanced and difficult
>> for you to experiment with. See:
>> https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en . There is a very
>> long story behind this US Patent and a hell of a lot of research. The
>> quest for a very inexpensive method of splitting water has been the
>> Holy Grail of cheap energy. In addition to the research papers and
>> links that I gave to you, here are some more to dwell on.
>>
>> https://www.researchgate.net/post/At_what_temperature_water_will_decompose_to_Oxygen_and_Hydrogen
>>
>> https://www.quora.com/Does-water-break-down-into-oxygen-and-hydrogen-at-high-temperatures-If-so-then-at-what-temperature
>>
>> https://www.quora.com/How-much-water-can-you-split-into-hydrogen-and-oxygen-using-electrolysis-with-one-kilowatt-hour-of-electricity
>>
>> http://www.redrok.com/hion96a1.htm
>>
>> https://www.nature.com/articles/nplants201741 Please read carefully
>> about the play of Nickel in this approach!
>>
>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_splitting
>>
>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water-gas_shift_reaction I owned
>> 77 acres of land in Eureka Springs, AR where they still had the old
>> water gas generator and gas storage facility.
>>
>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decarboxylation
>>
>> https://phys.org/news/2018-02-uncovers-mechanism-water-splitting-catalyst.html
>>
>> https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/new-catalyst-could-split-water-cheaply/
>>
>> https://www.technologyreview.com/s/512996/a-cheaper-way-to-make-hydrogen-from-water/
>>
>> "*SUPER STEAM* - A Tesla conference in Colorado surfaces new Super
>> Steam Technology (SST). Leonard Dorsett and friends from Texas share
>> strikingly similar views to Aquarian Agency Ltd. They have technology
>> which produces steam instantly at up to 3,000F without a boiler and
>> with 60% savings in fuel over traditional boilers. Nitrogen rich, it
>> can put out gasoline fires and treat many waste problems. Of major
>> importance to Aquarian, this nitrogen-rich steam will help to produce
>> heat and Aquastone at considerable savings."
>>
>> For further information on Aquarian Agency Ltd. they can be contacted
>> at 38 Weir Rd, Wimbledon, London SW19 SUG, England or on Internet at
>> <aquarian ocign.ape.org>. *_SUPER STEAM TECHNOLOGY PART 2_*
>>
>> Leonard Dorsett (PO Box 365, Grapevine, TX 76092) demonstrated his
>> Super Steam Technology at the 1994 International Tesla Symposium. SST
>> is a system for producing steam at any temperature or pressure
>> independently and instantly without the need for a conventional
>> boiler. It can instantly produce steam of any temperature from hot
>> water at 180F to super heated steam at over 3000F, while pressures
>> can vary from 1PSI to 3000PSI with airflow volumes of 1CFM up to over
>> 2000CFM. The system operates on propane, methane, petrol, kerosene,
>> methanol, diesel, hydrogen or just about anything else that bums and
>> converts virtually 100% of the fuel into usable energy. (Note: The
>> person in the picture is Norman Wootan of MRA fame)
>>
>> This all sounds great, but how does it work? The basis of the unit is
>> a specially designed open throat chamber with controlled air, water
>> and fuel interaction and a high voltage ignition resulting in a
>> direct fire process establishing thermal zones. This creates a
>> stoichiometric condition resulting in a full spectrum of steam
>> product. Now comes the interesting part At the increased temperatures
>> of steam, disassociation occurs. (Could this be a clue to running
>> cars on water??) The hydrogen and oxygen reacts causing an
>> exponential increase of energy resulting in super heated steam. A
>> similar superheat process was addressed by Tesla in the October 12,
>> 1911 publication of the "Engineering News Record".
>>
>> Applications of the SST system include a much more economical way of
>> producing electricity as no conventional boiler is needed. It will
>> also be an ideal low cost method for heating and cooling homes and
>> businesses. Small portable units can be developed for home use, such
>> as steam cleaning, and insect and ant removal, without the dangers of
>> insecticides. The system can also be used for low cost purification
>> of polluted water or sewerage and can also convert salt water into
>> drinking water both quickly and inexpensively. Other uses are in fire
>> fighting applications, ice and snow removal from roads, etc. and
>> sterilization and nurturing of soil for agriculture where
>> contamination has occurred.
>>
>> I had designed a method of making hydrogen from carbon & water vapor
>> using the Tesla Atomic Bombardment method of high frequency inside of
>> spherical inclosure like this experiments with the carbon button lamp
>> globes. After working with Leonard Dorsett and his Super Steam
>> Project, I chose to use the Water Shift Process instead. A side note
>> is needed here! The Super Steam Process was a result of Professor
>> Brown studying the method the German's used for torpedo propulsion
>> from WWI. Acetylene Gas and sea water produced an exothermic
>> reaction generating Super Steam. Brown built several reactors and
>> tested them in the Tulsa area to break (down hole) the parafin
>> deposits to release crude oil.
>>
>> The Chemical equation for the reaction in the US Patent:
>> https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en
>>
>> *(6C + 12 H2O = 6CO2 + 24H) *
>>
>> Hydrogen Reactor Development
>>
>> * *
>>
>> Original concept design was a high voltage, high frequency resonant
>> device that utilized carbon water reaction with the feedstock being
>> in the form of graphite rod stock. This unit was designed for
>> vehicle application and had too many limitations to be used for mass
>> hydrogen generation. This type reactor is very effective at hydrogen
>> production since it targets the water vapor molecule at MRI
>> frequencies, which breaks the bonding, allowing the carbon to latch
>> onto the oxygen atoms leaving the hydrogen free. This device was a
>> closed system that used a simple CO2/hydrogen separation stage that
>> enabled the hydrogen to be feed to an internal combustion engine.
>>
>> * *
>>
>> *To allow for a sustained high mass flow of hydrogen gas output,
>> reactor design took on a radical change. By incorporating the
>> Ranque/Hilsch, Counter Flow Implosion Vortex Principle, and
>> continuous high mass flow and gas separation were achieved in one
>> stage of operation. Feedstock for this type reactor could be any
>> carbon-based material that could be put into a powder form. Highest
>> carbon content of the feedstock provides for the most efficient
>> hydrogen production with the least undesirable output material.*
>>
>> * *
>>
>> *Super high temperature operating regime was chosen to be above 2500
>> C for the purpose of producing atomic hydrogen in the process. The
>> original reactor operated at temperatures that easily gasified basic
>> carbon into a plasma state (>10,000 F) more easily allowing the
>> production of hydrogen from the stoichiometric feed stock ratios.*
>>
>> *
>> *
>>
>> **
>>
>> I sold one of my Patents (Sonodiffuser) and paid for my 52 acres of
>> land and built a 5200 sq. Ft. lab the do the Prototype machining and
>> Proof of Concept testing for GAZPROM, Moscow in 2005. A $1.2 million
>> investment and they got the rights to the process and I got the
>> beautiful Research Lab all paid in full. I was a self employed
>> Contractor in Dallas working with HVAC, Electrical and Electronics
>> Maintenance so had to commute 170 miles/day and only had the week
>> ends for my time! Having to mow grass and maintane the 52 acres took
>> all my time and when I suffered a neck fracture in 2012, had to
>> retire. Liquidated the entire facility and sold it off. Moved to
>> Dallas then to South Louisiana where I now do a lot of relaxing and
>> fishing!
>>
>> Hector and ALL, I did my time in the Barrel so now I will just
>> contribute to the dialog inorder to assist any research you may be
>> doing within my area of experitise! BTW! I have been out to
>> pasture for a long time now, so no BULL offense! As Hector knows,
>> "It fits"! Lol
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes! Hector, I will wear my Border Patrol Hat when you come visit
>> from PR! Lol
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/6/2018 8:52 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> By the way ... i can hit mega millions or the power ball . i never
>>> will not have a lab i can work in, that is worst than death , you
>>> have no idea of the technology that had being lost by the greedy
>>> fucking bastards fucking my life , they will loose all they have
>>> "soon" because it had being engineered that way by accumulative bad
>>> karma, i have another lab they will never reach or be able to
>>> intercept or destroy and that will decide their fate ..... they will
>>> be fucked hard !
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> (H)
>>>
>>> ---In [email protected], <mkjekyll@...> wrote :
>>>
>>> Cmon Hector,
>>>
>>> Bad taste!
>>>
>>> The man had a more serious lab than anyone else here and his work
>>> speaks for itself. Maybe he has gained the fortune he desired
>>> through R&D and now shitting in tall cotton or gone fishing reaping
>>> the rewards of retirement. Notwithstanding is still kind enough to
>>> help point us in the right directions around here.
>>>
>>> "*Funny–I can look back on a life of achievement, on challenges met,
>>> competitors bested, obstacles overcome. I’ve accomplished more than
>>> most men, and without the use of my legs. What?What makes a man, Mr.
>>> Lebowski?"*
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/6/2018 8:04 AM, arkresearch@... <mailto:arkresearch@...>
>>> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dar n ! a Scientist inventor with no lab is like a breeding
>>>> bull with no balls !
>>>>
>>>> Balls Cow GIF - Balls Cow WingDangDoodle GIFs
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>,
>>>> <nwootan@...> <mailto:nwootan@...> wrote :
>>>>
>>>> Jacob! You asked me a question and I gave you my opinion! I'm
>>>> totally retired at 80 years old and have no lab to experiment
>>>> in! Your quote; I heard once a phrase from a researcher who
>>>> said. '' Slow down boy, we get paid for llooking for solutions,
>>>> not to find them!'' That certainly does not apply to me for I
>>>> have shared all with the folks on this site. I find you
>>>> statement very interesting: Technics that use up 10 % of a
>>>> magnet in 24 hours with usual amount of gas looks to me
>>>> extremely inefficient. ?????? Care to share where you
>>>> saw the power of a permanent magnet being used up! We all
>>>> here on this site share what ever knowledge we have on the
>>>> various subjects not seeking any monetary gain in any way! That
>>>> is my approach! I just contribute to the dialog when I run
>>>> across something interesting and think it will assist you
>>>> guys! Norm
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11/3/2018 11:32 PM, Jakob Wall wall_jakob@...
>>>> <mailto:wall_jakob@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Norman,
>>>>> But i actually asced for ''most efficient way'' to split
>>>>> water known to you!
>>>>> I realize there are a lot of different technigues to do
>>>>> just that.
>>>>> And yes i realize you could give me a rather complex
>>>>> answer. But instead i hope for a
>>>>> rather easy and reproductive answer since i am looking
>>>>> forward to solve my enerrgy
>>>>> problems i just can not live with the momentary (sad and
>>>>> very stupid energy situation)
>>>>> I am still not giving up becouse of a couple mistakes and
>>>>> misunderstandings.
>>>>> If i would be a car dealer and you would ask me for a most
>>>>> efficient car available on the market
>>>>> i would for sure not recommend a Prius, since there are a
>>>>> lot of cars with better fuel economie
>>>>> even without being a hybrid and without additional cost
>>>>> like batterys,e-motors and a bunch added ECU's
>>>>>
>>>>> Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours with
>>>>> usual amount of gas looks to me extremely
>>>>> inefficient.
>>>>> Also very expensive HHO-Garage products with output of 1,6
>>>>> ltr/min.
>>>>> Come on, 6 rusty nails and a old car batery does this job,
>>>>> no need to spend 1600 bucks on it.
>>>>> I honestly expected solide advise or a honest NO way boy,
>>>>> i just talking around.
>>>>>
>>>>> I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. '' Slow
>>>>> down boy, we get paid for llooking for
>>>>> solutions, not to find them!'' That shoked me deeply and
>>>>> even if i get 150 years old, i will not forget it.
>>>>> Thats true treason on mankind and deciving the people. I
>>>>> really hope nobody on this forum only care
>>>>> about what he/she will be doing tomorrow.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jakob
>>>>>
>>>>> --------------------------------------------
>>>>> On Sun, 10/28/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>> <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>, "Bert Pool"
>>>>> <BertPool512@...> <mailto:BertPool512@...>, "Bob Paddock"
>>>>> <bob.paddock@...> <mailto:bob.paddock@...>, "joel mcclain"
>>>>> <joel_76670@...> <mailto:joel_76670@...>, "Jon Gentry"
>>>>> <jongen422@...> <mailto:jongen422@...>, "Mbking42"
>>>>> <mbking42@...> <mailto:mbking42@...>, "Toby Grotz"
>>>>> <wireless2@...> <mailto:wireless2@...>, "Phil Rembold"
>>>>> <prembold@...> <mailto:prembold@...>, "Angel Alvarez"
>>>>> <angel@...> <mailto:angel@...>, "Fredric Fletcher"
>>>>> <ffletcher@...> <mailto:ffletcher@...>
>>>>> Received: Sunday, October 28, 2018, 9:44 AM
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jacob! That would be a rather complex answer
>>>>> but here is your
>>>>> starting point!
>>>>> https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct-thermomagnetic-splitting-of-water-.html
>>>>> After having been heavily involved in the COLD FUSION
>>>>> Research
>>>>> back in the 70s and 80s I quickly settled o0n the best
>>>>> catalyst in
>>>>> electrolytic cells which is pure nickel. I still have
>>>>> the cell
>>>>> used in the Elemental Replication experiments.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm
>>>>> The hidden
>>>>> part of this research is the use of a nickel component
>>>>> in the
>>>>> combustion chamber. Bosch developed 90,000V ignition
>>>>> systems to
>>>>> enable water injection in gas engine which high
>>>>> lighted the
>>>>> Graneau HV decomposition of water via HVDC
>>>>> discharge!
>>>>> My magnetic Battery when run as an electrolytic cell
>>>>> to produce
>>>>> hydrogen does produce a huge amount of hydrogen gas as
>>>>> shown by
>>>>> the Dr. Ehrenhaft document. I would tell you to
>>>>> pursue the super
>>>>> high Tesla magnetic flux and nickel electrodes in an
>>>>> electrolytic
>>>>> cell. The major obstacle to be overcome is the rapid
>>>>> collection
>>>>> of ions from solution by the 1.3 Tesla flux across a
>>>>> .020"
>>>>> mechanical gap which quickly takes the cell into a
>>>>> super-conduction mode which takes out the driving DC
>>>>> power supply.
>>>>> You can flush the magnetic gaps with distilled water
>>>>> and the gaps
>>>>> will show in the meg-ohm range then go to zero ohms
>>>>> after a short
>>>>> period of running, the gathered ions totally short
>>>>> cell. During
>>>>> the brief runs there is a huge amount of hydrogen gas
>>>>> produced
>>>>> which I burned off as it was generated. Much can be
>>>>> said about
>>>>> driving the cell with high frequencies as the Myers
>>>>> research
>>>>> showed. Our friend up in Canada at George Wiseman,
>>>>> Eagle Research
>>>>> is running well ahead of the crowd on the production
>>>>> of H-H-O.
>>>>> Just for giggles!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 16 October
>>>>> 1996
>>>>> To: Hal
>>>>> Fox, Fusion Facts
>>>>> Elemental
>>>>> Replication ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Around mid
>>>>> September
>>>>> I put together an
>>>>> electrolysis cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold
>>>>> Fusion Cell
>>>>> with the goal of
>>>>> exploring the possibilities of making what is
>>>>> termed “Pristine
>>>>> Water”. This water
>>>>> which will be used by Homeopaths
>>>>> will have had all memory or information
>>>>> removed. This is accomplished by
>>>>> recombining monatomic
>>>>> hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated in a
>>>>> properly
>>>>> designed cell. This is
>>>>> the ultimate in purity since this is
>>>>> water with conditions at the time of original
>>>>> creation. “Holly Water”is a term
>>>>> coined by my dear
>>>>> friend and fellow researcher Joe Tyls of
>>>>> Vancouver, BC. After several weeks of
>>>>> successful operation
>>>>> producing water that had all the earmarks of a
>>>>> true “pristine
>>>>> water” a fellow
>>>>> researcher suggested using an alternate
>>>>> electrolyte. A solution was selected
>>>>> that contained 77
>>>>> colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the
>>>>> easiest
>>>>> assimilated into the
>>>>> body. With the
>>>>> electrolyte changed the
>>>>> cell was put back into operation as before with a
>>>>> nice
>>>>> recombination burn and
>>>>> production of the sought after “pristine
>>>>> water”.
>>>>>
>>>>> After about an
>>>>> hour of
>>>>> operation the cell
>>>>> went absolutely “nuts” with the temperature
>>>>> rapidly climbing
>>>>> to boiling point
>>>>> and the current out of sight.
>>>>> When the
>>>>> cell was opened we found a deep red sludge deposit
>>>>> which
>>>>> shorted the cell
>>>>> plates. Our first
>>>>> thought was that the
>>>>> electrolytic action precipitated out the colloidal
>>>>> minerals
>>>>> which caused the
>>>>> deposit found. The
>>>>> electrolyte was allowed
>>>>> to settle out the
>>>>> precipitate. After
>>>>> decanting off, the clear electrolyte
>>>>> was
>>>>> returned to the
>>>>> cell for another run. Again the cell operated
>>>>> normally for
>>>>> about an hour with a
>>>>> normal recombination burn and recovery of the
>>>>> water being
>>>>> consumed by the cell
>>>>> in the splitting action. Again
>>>>> the cell
>>>>> temperature and current mirrored the first
>>>>> run.
>>>>> Again the cell contained the same amount of
>>>>> sludge
>>>>> residue. This process
>>>>> was repeated ten (10) times
>>>>> with exactly the same results.
>>>>> All of
>>>>> the sludge was carefully dried and weighed on an
>>>>> electronic
>>>>> scale with a five
>>>>> decimal
>>>>> resolution.
>>>>> The cell plates and all hardware were
>>>>> weighed to
>>>>> determine any loss of
>>>>> mass that may contribute to the mass gain observed
>>>>> in the
>>>>> sludge. Five hundred
>>>>> (500) ml of the original
>>>>> electrolyte solution used in the cell was vacuum
>>>>> distilled to
>>>>> determine the
>>>>> exact mass of colloidal minerals
>>>>> contained.
>>>>> When all factors were considered we came
>>>>> out with a
>>>>> mass gain of 48 gm
>>>>> which cannot be explained by
>>>>> conventional
>>>>> electrolysis.
>>>>>
>>>>> After talking
>>>>> to Dr.
>>>>> Robert Bass and Hal
>>>>> Fox I learned of a patent that has been filed on
>>>>> the
>>>>> transmutation of elements
>>>>> in the cold fusion cell which is the process that
>>>>> Dr. John
>>>>> Bockris has been so
>>>>> active in. Both Dr.
>>>>> Bass and Hal Fox
>>>>> stated that what I was observing is not the same
>>>>> as the
>>>>> transmutation observed
>>>>> in the cold fusion cell since I have a overall
>>>>> mass gain and
>>>>> not a lateral
>>>>> movement of elements in the periodic table toward
>>>>> lighter
>>>>> elements with a
>>>>> resulting heat release. This
>>>>> unusual
>>>>> cell operation has caused quite a reaction in the
>>>>> scientific
>>>>> community. At this
>>>>> time I have built a complete new cell
>>>>> with every possible factor which could possibly
>>>>> explain the
>>>>> mass gain
>>>>> considered and documented. The
>>>>> ten (10)
>>>>> consecutive runs on the new cell will be completed
>>>>> soon and a
>>>>> report will be
>>>>> forthcoming. What is
>>>>> interesting about
>>>>> this phenomenon is that when an eleventh run was
>>>>> made with the
>>>>> original
>>>>> electrolyte exactly the same amount of residue was
>>>>> recovered
>>>>> as in the previous
>>>>> ten
>>>>> runs.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Since
>>>>> the same electrolyte is reused each time with only
>>>>> distilled
>>>>> water being added
>>>>> to replace the volume lost by the removal of the
>>>>> solids and
>>>>> the water recovered
>>>>> by the recombination burn we are hard pressed to
>>>>> explain the
>>>>> observed
>>>>> phenomenon. The
>>>>> electrolyte appears
>>>>> stronger in mineral concentration and shows no
>>>>> sign of
>>>>>
>>>>> depletion.
>>>>>
>>>>> After conferring
>>>>> with
>>>>> Joe Tyls we arrived at
>>>>> the conclusion that the 77 colloidal minerals
>>>>> contained in the
>>>>> electrolyte
>>>>> provide the atomic templates needed for the
>>>>> monatomic hydrogen
>>>>> (father of all
>>>>> the elements) to replicate selected elements in
>>>>> this exotic
>>>>> mixture. If you
>>>>> subscribe to the theories of the late
>>>>> Walter Russell and his explanation of the octave
>>>>> based
>>>>> periodic table with
>>>>> monatonic hydrogen being what he describes as
>>>>> hydrons
>>>>> (precursor to hydrogen)
>>>>> then it is possible for the replication of
>>>>> elements directly
>>>>> from energy input
>>>>> alone. This is how all
>>>>> matter was
>>>>> created in the beginning as described by
>>>>> Schappeller in “The
>>>>> Physics of the
>>>>> Primary State of Matter”. I
>>>>> will keep
>>>>> all informed as to our progress and findings in
>>>>> this very
>>>>> intriguing venture.
>>>>>
>>>>> Norman
>>>>> Wootan
>>>>> P.O.
>>>>> Box 141049
>>>>> Dallas,
>>>>> TX 75214
>>>>> (214)
>>>>> 360-0865
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> CC: Gene Mallove,
>>>>> Infinite
>>>>> Energy
>>>>> CC: Dr. John
>>>>> Bockris, Texas
>>>>> A/M
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/28/2018 1:01 AM,
>>>>> Jakob Wall
>>>>> wall_jakob@... <mailto:wall_jakob@...>
>>>>> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Norman,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW, what is the most effective water split
>>>>> device that
>>>>> you ever put you hands on?
>>>>>
>>>>> As HHO researcher for dekades you should be
>>>>> able to point
>>>>> us directly to the most effective known!
>>>>>
>>>>> Please be specific about reconstruction of the
>>>>> same, since
>>>>> we are in public domain it will become public
>>>>> knowledge
>>>>> and public good. I assume you intend nothing
>>>>> else,rigth ?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 10/27/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>> <mailto:nwootan@...>
>>>>> [EVGRAY]
>>>>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's
>>>>> Magnetic
>>>>> Battery [3 Attachments]
>>>>>
>>>>> To: "Bert Pool" <BertPool512@...> <mailto:BertPool512@...>,
>>>>> "Bob
>>>>> Paddock" <bob.paddock@...> <mailto:bob.paddock@...>,
>>>>> "joel mcclain"
>>>>> <joel_76670@...> <mailto:joel_76670@...>,
>>>>> "Jon Gentry"
>>>>> <jongen422@...> <mailto:jongen422@...>,
>>>>> "Lane Wootan"
>>>>> <lanewootan@...> <mailto:lanewootan@...>,
>>>>> "Mbking42"
>>>>> <mbking42@...> <mailto:mbking42@...>,
>>>>> "Toby Grotz"
>>>>> <wireless2@...> <mailto:wireless2@...>,
>>>>> "Phil Rembold"
>>>>> <prembold@...> <mailto:prembold@...>,
>>>>> "Angel Alvarez"
>>>>> <angel@...> <mailto:angel@...>,
>>>>> "Fredric Fletcher"
>>>>> <ffletcher@...> <mailto:ffletcher@...>,
>>>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>
>>>>> To understand the unwinding of a thread
>>>>> leading
>>>>>
>>>>> to Magnetic
>>>>>
>>>>> Generating Hydrogen and this Magnetic Battery,
>>>>> we have
>>>>>
>>>>> to dust off
>>>>>
>>>>> our 9th grade Chemistry Books!
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.rexresearch.com/ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess Dr.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ehrenhaft was the first to propose a Magnetic
>>>>> Current.
>>>>>
>>>>> (Jon
>>>>>
>>>>> Gentry, Your liquid metal vortex helix).
>>>>>
>>>>> https://revolution-green.com/can-electrolysis-powered-magnets/
>>>>>
>>>>> Ah! Ha! more on Magnetic Currents!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446.html
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.labmanager.com/white-papers-and-application-notes/2010/05/resistivity-conductivity-measurement-of-purified-water#.W9So9uJRc2w
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.askiitians.com/forums/Physical-Chemistry/19/19074/electro-che
>>>>>
>>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpotential
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.quora.com/Why-is-oxygen-molecule-paramagnetic-although-it-does-not-contain-any-unpaired-electron
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251580541_The_effect_of_magnetic_force_on_hydrogen_production_efficiency_in_water_electrolysis
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.physicscentral.com/experiment/physicsathome/electricwhirlpool.cfm
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.linux-host.org/energy/bmagpump.htm
>>>>>
>>>>> Now Jon Gentry you have your liquid metal pump
>>>>> so
>>>>>
>>>>> that you can
>>>>>
>>>>> make the helix tube Vortex!
>>>>> Ferricpetacarbonyl or
>>>>>
>>>>> micro fine neo
>>>>>
>>>>> powder to provide the liquid metal for pump
>>>>>
>>>>> circuit.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lots of reading here! Please think
>>>>> about the
>>>>>
>>>>> ramifications of
>>>>>
>>>>> a Magnetic Current as proposed by Dr.
>>>>> Ehrenhaft!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>> #yiv6050531777 #yiv6050531777 --
>>>>> #yiv6050531777ygrp-mkp {
>>>>> border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px
>>>>> 0;padding:0 10px;}
>>>>>
>>>>> #yiv6050531777 #yiv6050531777ygrp-mkp hr {
>>>>> border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}
>>>>>
>>>>> #yiv6050531777 #yiv6050531777ygrp-mkp #yiv6050531777hd {
>>>>> color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px
>>>>> 0;}
>>>>>
>>>>> #yiv6050531777 #yiv6050531777ygrp-mkp #yiv6050531777ads {
>>>>> margin-bottom:10px;}
>>>>>
>>>>> #yiv6050531777 #yiv6050531777ygrp-mkp .yiv6050531777ad {
>>>>> padding:0 0;}
>>>>>
>>>>> #yiv6050531777 #yiv6050531777ygrp-mkp .yiv6050531777ad p {
>>>>> margin:0;}
>>>>>
>>>>> #yiv6050531777 #yiv6050531777ygrp-mkp .yiv6050531777ad a {
>>>>> color:#0000ff;text-decoration:none;}
>>>>> #yiv6050531777 #yiv6050531777ygrp-sponsor
>>>>> #yiv6050531777ygrp-lc {
>>>>> font-family:Arial;}
>>>>>
>>>>> #yiv6050531777 #yiv6050531777ygrp-sponsor
>>>>> #yiv6050531777ygrp-lc #yiv6050531777hd {
>>>>> margin:10px
>>>>> 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}
>>>>>
>>>>> #yiv6050531777 #yiv6050531777ygrp-sponsor
>>>>> #yiv6050531777ygrp-lc .yiv6050531777ad {
>>>>> margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}
>>>>>
>>>>> #yiv6050531777 #yiv6050531777actions {
>>>>> font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}
>>>>>
>>>>> #yiv6050531777 #yiv6050531777activity {
>>>>> background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}
>>>>>
>>>>> #yiv6050531777 #yiv6050531777activity span {
>>>>> font-weight:700;}
>>>>>
>>>>> #yiv6050531777 #yiv6050531777activity span:first-child {
>>>>> text-transform:uppercase;}
>>>>>
>>>>> #yiv6050531777 #yiv6050531777activity span a {
>>>>> color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}
>>>>>
>>>>> #yiv6050531777 #yiv6050531777activity span span {
>>>>> color:#ff7900;}
>>>>>
>>>>> #yiv6050531777 #yiv6050531777activity span
>>>>> .yiv6050531777underline {
>>>>> text-decoration:underline;}
>>>>>
>>>>> #yiv6050531777 .yiv6050531777attach {
>>>>> clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px
>>>>> 0;width:400px;}
>>>>>
>>>>> #yiv6050531777 .yiv6050531777attach div a {
>>>>> text-decoration:none;}
>>>>>
>>>>> #yiv6050531777 .yiv6050531777attach img {
>>>>> border:none;padding-right:5px;}
>>>>>
>>>>> #yiv6050531777 .yiv6050531777attach label {
>>>>> display:block;margin-bottom:5px;}
>>>>>
>>>>> #yiv6050531777 .yiv6050531777attach label a {
>>>>> text-decoration:none;}
>>>>>
>>>>> #yiv6050531777 blockquote {
>>>>> margin:0 0 0 4px;}
>>>>>
>>>>> #yiv6050531777 .yiv6050531777bold {
>>>>> font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;}
>>>>>
>>>>> #yiv6050531777 .yiv6050531777bold a {
>>>>> text-decoration:none;}
>>>>>
>>>>> #yiv6050531777 dd.yiv6050531777last p a {
>>>>> font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}
>>>>>
>>>>> #yiv6050531777 dd.yiv6050531777last p span {
>>>>> margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}
>>>>>
>>>>> #yiv6050531777 dd.yiv6050531777last p
>>>>> span.yiv6050531777yshortcuts {
>>>>> margin-right:0;}
>>>>>
>>>>> #yiv6050531777 div.yiv6050531777attach-table div div a {
>>>>> text-decoration:none;}
>>>>>
>>>>> #yiv6050531777 div.yiv6050531777attach-table {
>>>>> width:400px;}
>>>>>
>>>>> #yiv6050531777 div.yiv6050531777file-title a, #yiv6050531777
>>>>> div.yiv6050531777file-title a:active, #yiv6050531777
>>>>> div.yiv6050531777file-title a:hover, #yiv6050531777
>>>>> div.yiv6050531777file-title a:visited {
>>>>> text-decoration:none;}
>>>>>
>>>>> #yiv6050531777 div.yiv6050531777photo-title a,
>>>>> #yiv6050531777 div.yiv6050531777photo-title a:active,
>>>>> #yiv6050531777 div.yiv6050531777photo-title a:hover,
>>>>> #yiv6050531777 div.yiv6050531777photo-title a:visited {
>>>>> text-decoration:none;}
>>>>>
>>>>> #yiv6050531777 div#yiv6050531777ygrp-mlmsg
>>>>> #yiv6050531777ygrp-msg p a span.yiv6050531777yshortcuts {
>>>>> font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;font-weight:normal;}
>>>>>
>>>>> #yiv6050531777 .yiv6050531777green {
>>>>> color:#628c2a;}
>>>>>
>>>>> #yiv6050531777 .yiv6050531777MsoNormal {
>>>>> margin:0 0 0 0;}
>>>>>
>>>>> #yiv6050531777 o {
>>>>> font-size:0;}
>>>>>
>>>>> #yiv6050531777 #yiv6050531777photos div {
>>>>> float:left;width:72px;}
>>>>>
>>>>> #yiv6050531777 #yiv6050531777photos div div {
>>>>> border:1px solid
>>>>> #666666;min-height:62px;overflow:hidden;width:62px;}
>>>>>
>>>>> #yiv6050531777 #yiv6050531777photos div label {
>>>>> color:#666666;font-size:10px;overflow:hidden;text-align:center;white-space:nowrap;width:64px;}
>>>>>
>>>>> #yiv6050531777 #yiv6050531777reco-category {
>>>>> font-size:77%;}
>>>>>
>>>>> #yiv6050531777 #yiv6050531777reco-desc {
>>>>> font-size:77%;}
>>>>>
>>>>> #yiv6050531777 .yiv6050531777replbq {
>>>>> margin:4px;}
>>>>>
>>>>> #yiv6050531777 #yiv6050531777ygrp-actbar div a:first-child {
>>>>> margin-right:2px;padding-right:5px;}
>>>>>
>>>>> #yiv6050531777 #yiv6050531777ygrp-mlmsg {
>>>>> font-size:13px;font-family:Arial, helvetica, clean,
>>>>> sans-serif;}
>>>>>
>>>>> #yiv6050531777 #yiv6050531777ygrp-mlmsg table {
>>>>> font-size:inherit;font:100%;}
>>>>>
>>>>> #yiv6050531777 #yiv6050531777ygrp-mlmsg select,
>>>>> #yiv6050531777 input, #yiv6050531777 textarea {
>>>>> font:99% Arial, Helvetica, clean, sans-serif;}
>>>>>
>>>>> #yiv6050531777 #yiv6050531777ygrp-mlmsg pre, #yiv6050531777
>>>>> code {
>>>>> font:115% monospace;}
>>>>>
>>>>> #yiv6050531777 #yiv6050531777ygrp-mlmsg * {
>>>>> line-height:1.22em;}
>>>>>
>>>>> #yiv6050531777 #yiv6050531777ygrp-mlmsg #yiv6050531777logo {
>>>>> padding-bottom:10px;}
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> #yiv6050531777 #yiv6050531777ygrp-msg p a {
>>>>> font-family:Verdana;}
>>>>>
>>>>> #yiv6050531777 #yiv6050531777ygrp-msg
>>>>> p#yiv6050531777attach-count span {
>>>>> color:#1E66AE;font-weight:700;}
>>>>>
>>>>> #yiv6050531777 #yiv6050531777ygrp-reco
>>>>> #yiv6050531777reco-head {
>>>>> color:#ff7900;font-weight:700;}
>>>>>
>>>>> #yiv6050531777 #yiv6050531777ygrp-reco {
>>>>> margin-bottom:20px;padding:0px;}
>>>>>
>>>>> #yiv6050531777 #yiv6050531777ygrp-sponsor #yiv6050531777ov
>>>>> li a {
>>>>> font-size:130%;text-decoration:none;}
>>>>>
>>>>> #yiv6050531777 #yiv6050531777ygrp-sponsor #yiv6050531777ov
>>>>> li {
>>>>> font-size:77%;list-style-type:square;padding:6px 0;}
>>>>>
>>>>> #yiv6050531777 #yiv6050531777ygrp-sponsor #yiv6050531777ov
>>>>> ul {
>>>>> margin:0;padding:0 0 0 8px;}
>>>>>
>>>>> #yiv6050531777 #yiv6050531777ygrp-text {
>>>>> font-family:Georgia;}
>>>>>
>>>>> #yiv6050531777 #yiv6050531777ygrp-text p {
>>>>> margin:0 0 1em 0;}
>>>>>
>>>>> #yiv6050531777 #yiv6050531777ygrp-text tt {
>>>>> font-size:120%;}
>>>>>
>>>>> #yiv6050531777 #yiv6050531777ygrp-vital ul li:last-child {
>>>>> border-right:none !important;
>>>>> }
>>>>> #yiv6050531777
>>>>>
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