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I want to prepare some findings on "Catalysts" tomorrow. I need to pull up some interesting info for you all!

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  On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 4:52 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
 

Hi Norm,
 
The catalysts are very interesting.  Iron Cobalt and Nickel all ferromagnetic but at different spins.
 
Correct me if I am wrong but based on reading your links a bingofuel type reactor using tungsten electrodes that hopefully would last much longer would likely produce OH rather than H and carbon monoxide, what do you think?
 
Also water is strange indeed in that a pyramid or orgone accumulator changes it and these simple changes could make for water that breaks up more easily.  I would love to know what results you demonstrated with the totally juvenile memory free water you put back together from the OH?  
 
 
Sorry to hear about your neck fracture, I have a similar issue and it is extremely painful and debilitating at times.
 
Mick
 
 
 On 11/7/2018 4:15 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
 
 

 
 On 11/7/2018 6:06 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
  
 
Jakob Wall! & all other researchers on here need to read the Whole Story as to why I no longer have a research lab.  Jakob, I'm sorry I did not reveal to you the BEST in my opinion of methods of producing hydrogen gas for I felt it was a little too advanced and difficult for you to experiment with.  See: https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en .   There is a very long story behind this US Patent and a hell of a lot of research. The quest for a very inexpensive method of splitting water has been the Holy Grail of  cheap energy.   In addition to the research papers and links that I gave to you, here are some more to dwell on.
 
https://www.researchgate.net/post/At_what_temperature_water_will_decompose_to_Oxygen_and_Hydrogen
 
https://www.quora.com/Does-water-break-down-into-oxygen-and-hydrogen-at-high-temperatures-If-so-then-at-what-temperature
 
https://www.quora.com/How-much-water-can-you-split-into-hydrogen-and-oxygen-using-electrolysis-with-one-kilowatt-hour-of-electricity
 
http://www.redrok.com/hion96a1.htm
 
https://www.nature.com/articles/nplants201741   Please read carefully about the play of Nickel in this approach!
 
 
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_splitting
 
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water-gas_shift_reaction    I owned 77 acres of land in Eureka Springs, AR where they still had the old water gas generator and gas storage facility.
 
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decarboxylation
 
https://phys.org/news/2018-02-uncovers-mechanism-water-splitting-catalyst.html
 
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/new-catalyst-could-split-water-cheaply/
 
https://www.technologyreview.com/s/512996/a-cheaper-way-to-make-hydrogen-from-water/
 
"SUPER STEAM - A Tesla conference in Colorado surfaces new Super Steam Technology (SST). Leonard Dorsett and friends from Texas share strikingly similar views to Aquarian Agency Ltd. They have technology which produces steam instantly at up to 3,000F without a boiler and with 60% savings in fuel over traditional boilers. Nitrogen rich, it can put out gasoline fires and treat many waste problems. Of major importance to Aquarian, this nitrogen-rich steam will help to produce heat and Aquastone at considerable savings."
 
 For further information on Aquarian Agency Ltd. they can be contacted at 38 Weir Rd, Wimbledon, London SW19 SUG, England or on Internet at <aquarian ocign.ape.org>. SUPER STEAM TECHNOLOGY PART 2
 
 Leonard Dorsett (PO Box 365, Grapevine, TX 76092) demonstrated his Super Steam Technology at the 1994 International Tesla Symposium. SST is a system for producing steam at any temperature or pressure independently and instantly without the need for a conventional boiler. It can instantly produce steam of any temperature from hot water at 180F to super heated steam at over 3000F, while pressures can vary from 1PSI to 3000PSI with airflow volumes of 1CFM up to over 2000CFM. The system operates on propane, methane, petrol, kerosene, methanol, diesel, hydrogen or just  about anything else that bums and converts virtually 100% of the fuel into usable energy. (Note: The person in the picture is Norman Wootan of MRA fame)
 
 This all sounds great, but how does it work? The basis of the unit is a specially designed open throat chamber with controlled air, water and fuel interaction and a high voltage ignition resulting in a direct fire process establishing thermal zones. This creates a stoichiometric condition resulting in a full spectrum of steam product. Now comes the interesting part At the increased temperatures of steam, disassociation occurs. (Could this be a clue to running cars on water??) The hydrogen and oxygen reacts causing an exponential increase of energy resulting in super heated steam. A similar superheat process was addressed by Tesla in the October 12, 1911 publication of the "Engineering News Record".
 
 Applications of the SST system include a much more economical way of producing electricity as no conventional boiler is needed. It will also be an ideal low cost method for heating and cooling homes and businesses. Small portable units can be developed for home use, such as steam cleaning, and insect and ant removal, without the dangers of insecticides. The system can also be used for low cost purification of polluted water or sewerage and can also convert salt water into drinking water both quickly and inexpensively. Other uses are in fire fighting applications, ice and snow removal from roads, etc. and sterilization and nurturing of soil for agriculture where contamination has occurred.
 
I had designed a method of making hydrogen from carbon & water vapor using the Tesla Atomic Bombardment method of high frequency inside of spherical inclosure like this experiments with the carbon button lamp globes.   After working with Leonard Dorsett and his Super Steam Project, I chose to use the Water Shift Process instead.  A side note is needed here!  The Super Steam Process was a result of Professor Brown studying the method the German's used for torpedo propulsion from WWI.  Acetylene Gas and sea water produced an exothermic reaction generating Super Steam. Brown built several reactors and tested them in the Tulsa area to break (down hole) the parafin deposits to release crude oil.
 
The Chemical equation for the reaction in the US Patent: https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en 
 
 

 
 
 
(6C + 12 H2O  = 6CO2 + 24H) 
 

 
 
 
Hydrogen Reactor Development
 
 
 
Original concept design was a high voltage, high frequency resonant device that utilized carbon water reaction with the feedstock being in the form of graphite rod stock.  This unit was designed for vehicle application and had too many limitations to be used for mass hydrogen generation.  This type reactor is very effective at hydrogen production since it targets the water vapor molecule at MRI frequencies, which breaks the bonding, allowing the carbon to latch onto the oxygen atoms leaving the hydrogen free. This device was a closed system that used a simple CO2/hydrogen separation stage that enabled the hydrogen to be feed to an internal combustion engine.
 
 
 
To allow for a sustained high mass flow of hydrogen gas output, reactor design took on a radical change.  By incorporating the Ranque/Hilsch, Counter Flow Implosion Vortex Principle, and continuous high mass flow and gas separation were achieved in one stage of operation.  Feedstock for this type reactor could be any carbon-based material that could be put into a powder form.  Highest carbon content of the feedstock provides for the most efficient hydrogen production with the least undesirable output material.
 
 
 
Super high temperature operating regime was chosen to be above 2500 C for the purpose of producing atomic hydrogen in the process.  The original reactor operated at temperatures that easily gasified basic carbon into a plasma state (>10,000 F) more easily allowing the production of hydrogen from the stoichiometric feed stock ratios.
 

 
 

 
I sold one of my Patents (Sonodiffuser) and paid for my 52 acres of land and built a 5200 sq. Ft. lab the do the Prototype machining and Proof of Concept testing for GAZPROM, Moscow in 2005. A $1.2 million investment and they got the rights to the process and I got the beautiful Research Lab all paid in full. I was a self employed Contractor in Dallas working with HVAC, Electrical and Electronics Maintenance so had to commute 170 miles/day and only had the week ends for my time! Having to mow grass and maintane the 52 acres took all my time and when I suffered a neck fracture in 2012, had  to retire. Liquidated the entire facility and sold it off. Moved to Dallas then to South Louisiana where I now do a lot of relaxing and fishing!
 
Hector and ALL, I did my time in the Barrel so now I will just contribute to the dialog inorder to assist any research you may be doing within my area of experitise!     BTW! I have been out to pasture for a long time now, so no BULL offense!  As Hector knows, "It fits"! Lol
 

 
 

 
 
 
 
 Yes! Hector, I will wear my Border Patrol Hat when you come visit from PR!  Lol
 

 
 

 
 

 
 On 11/6/2018 8:52 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    

 By the way ... i can hit mega millions or the power ball  . i never will not have a lab i can work in,  that is worst than death , you have no idea of the technology that had being lost by the greedy fucking bastards fucking my life , they will loose all they have  "soon" because it had being engineered that way by accumulative bad karma, i have another lab they will never reach or be able to intercept or destroy and that will decide their fate ..... they will be fucked hard ! 
 
 
 
 (H)    
 
 ---In [email protected], <mkjekyll@...> wrote :
 
 
  
Cmon Hector,
 
Bad taste!
 
 
The man had a more serious lab than anyone else here and his work speaks for itself.  Maybe he has gained the fortune he desired through R&D and now shitting in tall cotton or gone fishing reaping the rewards of retirement. Notwithstanding is still kind enough to help point us in the right directions around here.
 
"Funny–I can look back on a life of achievement, on challenges met, competitors bested, obstacles overcome. I’ve accomplished more than most men, and without the use  of my legs. What?What makes a man, Mr. Lebowski?"
 
 On 11/6/2018 8:04 AM, arkresearch@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
 
    
Dar n ! a Scientist inventor with no lab is like a breeding bull with no balls ! 
 
 
 
 
 ---In [email protected], <nwootan@...> wrote :
 
  
Jacob! You asked me a question and I gave you my opinion!  I'm totally retired at 80 years old and have no lab to experiment in!  Your quote; I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. '' Slow down boy, we get paid for llooking for solutions, not to find them!''   That certainly does not apply to me for I have shared all with the folks on this site.  I find you statement very interesting:  Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours with usual amount of gas looks to me extremely inefficient.   ??????        Care to share where you saw the power of a permanent magnet being used up!   We all here on this site share what ever knowledge we have on the various subjects not seeking any monetary gain in any way! That is my approach!   I just contribute to the dialog when I run across something interesting and think it will assist you guys!   Norm
 
 
 On 11/3/2018 11:32 PM, Jakob Wall wall_jakob@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
 
    
Thanks Norman,
 But i actually asced for ''most efficient way'' to split water known to you!
 I realize there are a lot of different technigues to do just that.
 And yes i realize you could give me a rather complex answer. But instead i hope for a 
 rather easy and reproductive answer since i am looking forward to solve my enerrgy 
 problems i just can not live with the momentary (sad and very stupid energy situation)
 I am still not giving up becouse of a couple mistakes and misunderstandings.
 If i would be a car dealer and you would ask me for a most efficient car available on the market
 i would for sure not recommend a Prius, since there are a lot of cars with better fuel economie
 even without being a hybrid and without additional cost like batterys,e-motors and a bunch added ECU's
 
 Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours with usual amount of gas looks to me extremely 
 inefficient.
 Also very expensive HHO-Garage products with output of 1,6 ltr/min.
 Come on, 6 rusty nails and a old car batery does this job, no need to spend 1600 bucks on it.
 I honestly expected solide advise or a honest NO way boy, i just talking around.
 
 I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. '' Slow down boy, we get paid for llooking for
 solutions, not to find them!'' That shoked me deeply and even if i get 150 years old, i will not forget it.
 Thats true treason on mankind and deciving the people. I really hope nobody on this forum only care 
 about what he/she will be doing tomorrow.
 
 Jakob
 
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 On Sun, 10/28/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@... [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:
 
 Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery
 To: [email protected], "Bert Pool" <BertPool512@...>, "Bob Paddock" <bob.paddock@...>, "joel mcclain" <joel_76670@...>, "Jon Gentry" <jongen422@...>, "Mbking42" <mbking42@...>, "Toby Grotz" <wireless2@...>, "Phil Rembold" <prembold@...>, "Angel Alvarez" <angel@...>, "Fredric Fletcher" <ffletcher@...>
 Received: Sunday, October 28, 2018, 9:44 AM
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Jacob!  That would be a rather complex answer
 but here is your
 starting point!
 https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct-thermomagnetic-splitting-of-water-.html   
 After having been heavily involved in the COLD FUSION
 Research
 back in the 70s and 80s I quickly settled o0n the best
 catalyst in
 electrolytic cells which is pure nickel. I still have
 the cell
 used in the Elemental Replication experiments. 
 
 
 http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm    
 The hidden
 part of this research is the use of a nickel component
 in the
 combustion chamber. Bosch developed 90,000V ignition
 systems to
 enable water injection in gas engine which high
 lighted the
 Graneau HV decomposition of water via HVDC
 discharge!
 My magnetic Battery when run as an electrolytic cell
 to produce
 hydrogen does produce a huge amount of hydrogen gas as
 shown by
 the Dr. Ehrenhaft document.  I would tell you to
 pursue the super
 high Tesla magnetic flux and nickel electrodes in an
 electrolytic
 cell.  The major obstacle to be overcome is the rapid
 collection
 of ions from solution by the 1.3 Tesla flux across a
 .020"
 mechanical gap which quickly takes the cell into a
 super-conduction mode which takes out the driving DC
 power supply.
 You can flush the magnetic gaps with distilled water
 and the gaps
 will show in the meg-ohm range then go to zero ohms
 after a short
 period of running, the gathered ions totally short
 cell. During
 the brief runs there is a huge amount of hydrogen gas
 produced 
 which I burned off as it was generated.  Much can be
 said about
 driving the cell with high frequencies as the Myers
 research
 showed.  Our friend up in Canada at George Wiseman,
 Eagle Research
 is running well ahead of the crowd on the production
 of H-H-O.
 Just for giggles!
 
 
 16 October
 1996
 To: Hal
 Fox,  Fusion Facts
 Elemental
 Replication ?
  
       Around mid
 September
 I put together an
 electrolysis cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold
 Fusion Cell
 with the goal of
 exploring the possibilities of making what is
 termed “Pristine
 Water”.   This water
 which will be used by Homeopaths
 will have had all memory or information
 removed.  This is accomplished by
 recombining monatomic
 hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated in a
 properly
 designed cell.  This is
 the ultimate in purity since this is
 water with conditions at the time of original
 creation.  “Holly Water”is a term
 coined by my dear
 friend and fellow researcher Joe Tyls of
 Vancouver, BC.   After several weeks of
 successful operation
 producing water that had all the earmarks of a
 true “pristine
 water” a fellow
 researcher suggested using an alternate
 electrolyte.   A solution was selected
 that contained 77
 colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the
 easiest
 assimilated into the
 body.   With the
 electrolyte changed the
 cell was put back into operation as before with a
 nice
 recombination burn and
 production of the sought after “pristine
water”.                                                                                                                                     
        
     After about an
 hour of
 operation the cell
 went absolutely “nuts” with the temperature
 rapidly climbing
 to boiling point
 and the current out of sight. 
 When the
 cell was opened we found a deep red sludge deposit
 which
 shorted the cell
 plates.   Our first
 thought was that the
 electrolytic action precipitated out the colloidal
 minerals
 which caused the
 deposit found.   The 
 electrolyte was allowed
 to settle out the
 precipitate.   After 
 decanting off,  the clear electrolyte
 was
 returned to the
 cell for another run. Again the cell operated
 normally for
 about an hour with a
 normal recombination burn and recovery of the
 water being
 consumed by the cell
 in the splitting action.   Again
 the cell
 temperature and current mirrored the first
 run. 
 Again the cell contained the same amount of
 sludge
 residue.   This process
 was repeated ten (10) times
 with exactly the same results.  
 All of
 the sludge was carefully dried and weighed on an
 electronic
 scale with a five
 decimal
resolution.                     
 The cell plates and all hardware were
 weighed to
 determine any loss of
 mass that may contribute to the mass gain observed
 in the
 sludge.  Five hundred
 (500) ml of the original
 electrolyte solution used in the cell was vacuum
 distilled to
 determine the
 exact mass of colloidal minerals
 contained. 
 When all factors were considered we came
 out with a
 mass gain of  48 gm
 which cannot be explained by
 conventional
electrolysis.                      
 
     After talking
 to Dr.
 Robert Bass and Hal
 Fox I learned of a patent that has been filed on
 the
 transmutation of elements
 in the cold fusion cell which is the process that
 Dr. John
 Bockris has been so
 active in.   Both Dr.
 Bass and Hal Fox
 stated that what I was observing is not the same
 as the
 transmutation observed
 in the cold fusion cell since I have a overall
 mass gain and
 not a lateral
 movement of elements in the periodic table toward
 lighter
 elements with a
 resulting heat release.  This
 unusual
 cell operation has caused quite a reaction in the
 scientific
 community.  At this
 time I have built a complete new cell
 with every possible factor which could possibly
 explain the
 mass gain
 considered and documented.  The
 ten (10)
 consecutive runs on the new cell will be completed
 soon and a
 report will be
 forthcoming.   What is
 interesting about
 this phenomenon is that when an eleventh run was
 made with the
 original
 electrolyte exactly the same amount of residue was
 recovered
 as in the previous
 ten
runs.                                                                       
 
  
 Since
 the same electrolyte is reused each time with only
 distilled
 water being added
 to replace the volume lost by the removal of the
 solids and
 the water recovered
 by the recombination burn we are hard pressed to
 explain the
 observed
 phenomenon.     The
 electrolyte appears
 stronger in mineral concentration and shows no
 sign of
 
depletion.                                
 
    After conferring
 with
 Joe Tyls we arrived at
 the conclusion that the 77 colloidal minerals
 contained in the
 electrolyte
 provide the atomic templates needed for the
 monatomic hydrogen
 (father of all
 the elements) to replicate selected elements in
 this exotic
 mixture.  If you
 subscribe to the theories of the late
 Walter Russell and his explanation of the octave
 based
 periodic table with
 monatonic hydrogen being what he describes as
 hydrons
 (precursor to hydrogen)
 then it is possible for the replication of
 elements directly
 from energy input
 alone.  This is how all
 matter was
 created in the beginning as described by
 Schappeller in “The
 Physics of the
 Primary State of Matter”.    I
 will keep
 all informed as to our progress and findings in
 this very
 intriguing venture.
  
 Norman
 Wootan
 P.O.
 Box 141049
 Dallas,
 TX 75214
 (214)
 360-0865
  
  
 CC:  Gene Mallove,
 Infinite
 Energy
 CC:  Dr. John
 Bockris, Texas
 A/M
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On 10/28/2018 1:01 AM,
 Jakob Wall
 wall_jakob@...
 [EVGRAY] wrote:
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 Thanks Norman,
 
 
 
 BTW, what is the most effective water split
 device that
 you ever put you hands on?
 
 As HHO researcher for dekades you should be
 able to point
 us directly to the most effective known!
 
 Please be specific about reconstruction of the
 same, since
 we are in public domain it will become public
 knowledge
 and public good. I assume you intend nothing
 else,rigth ?
 
 
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 On Sat, 10/27/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
 [EVGRAY]
 <[email protected]>
 wrote:
 
 
 
 Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's
 Magnetic
 Battery [3 Attachments]
 
 To: "Bert Pool" <BertPool512@...>,
 "Bob
 Paddock" <bob.paddock@...>,
 "joel mcclain"
 <joel_76670@...>,
 "Jon Gentry"
 <jongen422@...>,
 "Lane Wootan"
 <lanewootan@...>,
 "Mbking42"
 <mbking42@...>,
 "Toby Grotz"
 <wireless2@...>,
 "Phil Rembold"
 <prembold@...>,
 "Angel Alvarez"
 <angel@...>,
 "Fredric Fletcher"
 <ffletcher@...>,
 [email protected]
 
 To understand the unwinding of a thread
 leading
 
 to Magnetic
 
 Generating Hydrogen and this Magnetic Battery,
 we have
 
 to dust off
 
 our  9th grade Chemistry Books!
 
 http://www.rexresearch.com/ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm     
 
 I guess Dr.
 
 Ehrenhaft was the first to propose a Magnetic
 Current.
 
 (Jon
 
 Gentry, Your liquid metal vortex helix).
 
 https://revolution-green.com/can-electrolysis-powered-magnets/      
 
 Ah! Ha!  more on Magnetic Currents!!!
 
 https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446.html
 
 https://www.labmanager.com/white-papers-and-application-notes/2010/05/resistivity-conductivity-measurement-of-purified-water#.W9So9uJRc2w
 
 https://www.askiitians.com/forums/Physical-Chemistry/19/19074/electro-che
 
 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpotential
 
 https://www.quora.com/Why-is-oxygen-molecule-paramagnetic-although-it-does-not-contain-any-unpaired-electron
 
 https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251580541_The_effect_of_magnetic_force_on_hydrogen_production_efficiency_in_water_electrolysis
 
 http://www.physicscentral.com/experiment/physicsathome/electricwhirlpool.cfm
 
 http://www.linux-host.org/energy/bmagpump.htm
 
 Now Jon Gentry you have your liquid metal pump
 so
 
 that you can
 
 make the helix tube Vortex! 
 Ferricpetacarbonyl or
 
 micro fine neo
 
 powder to provide the liquid metal for pump
 
 circuit.
 
 Lots of reading here!     Please think
 about the
 
 ramifications of
 
 a Magnetic Current as proposed by Dr.
 Ehrenhaft!
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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