Re: Hi All - Question

OleRomex is the most common domestic house wire consisting of three wires all about 1mm or 14gauge, bundled together each PVC (vinyl) plastic insulated, and put inside in a flattened group, in a pvc sheath. We have this in Canada.I have also seen it in Mexico,  the USA, Carribean, except I am not sure about the French Islands, where they have a green and yellow heavy ground wire, and 220 volts.Every hardware store sells it here in Canada.. like antenna wire, the ohms value, is perhaps, important..CHEERS warren

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  On Fri., 28 Jun. 2019 at 8:22 p.m., [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
Hi Warren,

What is this Romex and where to get it?

Light dimmer circuit (https://www.digikey.com/en/articles/techzone/2012/jul/home-lighting-controllers-offer-dimming-compatibility):

Here is a circuit with some component values:

Source: http://www.oocities.org/tjacodesign/dimmer/dimmer.html

Regards
Ole



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DaveThe dimmer burning out? That dosen't sound bad. That sounds like there is power to spare, doesn't it?What happens if you don't use the dimmer? Does the bulb blow? And if the bulb blows, how can that be a bad thing? That just means there might  be higher voltage available, wouldn't you agree?So then , put two 100 watt light bulbs in series, or three .Mahahaha, this is sounding like fun Dave, how could you possibly keep such a nice, simple device under wraps?I have a friend in Tanzania, trying to get a whole village to prosper growing high quality peanuts.They could sure use electricity, in their operation.
Here in Canada, in the far North, whole villages of people have to have diesel air delivered, by twin Otter float planes, to power the town generator.Groceries? Diet? Global warming and the seal hunt, the caribou hunt, and teen suicides?Electricity could change the whole venue. Hydroponic gardens, heat and communications with a larger World that doesn't just represent financial predators.Oh those predators, they might get a little feisty no longer having a cash cow, quite the same way.So, I can't see any down side, really.It is time for this device to come out of the closet, and sing, and dance.Let's see what we can do with these things, and once working , get the young egg heads in, to try to noodle it out, why it works.So now, let's get some working!Okay guys, wake up! Break time is over. It is time to polish up your Variac, and break the bank, buying six feet of Romex, and a bunch of old fashioned, incandescent light bulbs, before they are out of stock.Thanks to DaveCheers Warren
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Warren,

Unfortunately the lamp dimmer burned up on the third trial out. It was the smallest one they had back then.I replaced it but never worked on this again.
Looks like the Autotransformer likely does have an iron core of some kind, don't know why I thought that when I took it all apart back then. I do remember the toroidal width of the coil inside it is 4" outside diameter.
Most all these component concepts came from Floyd Sweets diagrams, and videos.The diodes are - Mouser pn 511-BYT03-400   [ 3 Amp  400 volt  ultra fast damper ]
Dave L


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Hi Dave and Warren

That's a variac I think in photo of faceplate (same thing as "auto transformer"?)

Kone

When one is 'sensitive' one can FEEL the Field (no electrons for the enlightened) in an AC line.
 

 If you know where a AC power line is buried, even if several feet underground, one can hold a Neo Magnet and trace the line underground by holding the magnet in one's hand and waving it back and forth and feeling the magnet move, ever so lightly in one's hand tracing the line underground. 

 

 BUT 

 

 If the underground line is curved, say to go around a road or similar, one can also FEEL a STRAIGHT LINE Field with the magnet as the Field also goes through the Aether in a straight line. 

 

 Dave needs to read the word of Walter Russell and how some have appropriated his ideas and pawned them off as their own contributing to the rubbish Dave L relies upon with just a new form of Dowsing rods or calipers. 

 

 

 

 

 Dave L's Joecell writings are so backward its difficult to correct the entire mistaken understandings with Joecells. 

 What Dave L has found is just another Dowsing Rod (SS Calipers) his deductions are not what he thinks they are. 

 

 The entire JoeCell site here....  http://www.resonantfractals.org/Joe_Cell/Joe_Cell_Menu.html http://www.resonantfractals.org/Joe_Cell/Joe_Cell_Menu.html   Is FLAWED.
 

 None of the pictures have cells constructed correct or filled with water to the correct level. If Dave is so good, how does he get it so wrong? He "welds" the cells and knows not the added Magnetic Fields he adds and then claims to reverse it with just sparks. This just isnt correct. He STILL uses HHO as his belief in Water. This False Belief WILL give different results to his Dowsing Calipers. A Flawed MIND will give FLAWED Dowsing results.

 

 While he is industrious in his efforts, Dave has NOTHING to save the Planet from Humanity. In fact, he's contributing to its demise by propagating false theories and digging up more copper wire. 

 

 If Dave actually had anything that was good, his site wouldnt be 'free'. Giving away useless planet destroying knowledge isnt exactly beneficial. Dave has (probably) ignored the millions of other uses of a JoeCell making his Joecell site technically obsolete or at best a complete fabrication. He and others just havent woke up to the fact JoeCells make nearly everything Tesla, 'obsolete'. 

 

 If you cant see past the farm/lab gift Arno, you just arent thinking. What's on offer or on the table is. For the exchange of a farm, you get a working JoeCell that will do whatever you want. Chose wisely as you can ask for one that is a Cold Fusion Battery or an In-Line Magnetic Cell that turns raw shit into drinking water, or an electric cell that turns water into oil never needing an Oil Refinery again. But I am sure Dave L's calipers can dowse better.

 

 Its what Westinghouse and Morgan did, traded a Lab for Tesla's patents. Its all Joe has and Joe only wants to Trade. Its a CHEAP trade. It heals the Planet and man's Mind. 

 

 Dave L hasnt a clue what water is nor what a JoeCell is. If he truly wants to help humanity, he would rectify his poor understandings on his website. It could be said that a JoeCell operates like a magic wand programmed the same as Dowsing rods. Some consider a dowsing rod a 'magic wand'.  Magic or its practice by a Magician came about by describing a person who works with Magnetic Fields. The Magi were Magnetics Men. Everything is Magnetic said Manly P Hall. Magic changes the Magnetic Properties of Matter. A Dowsing Rod detects these Magnetic Vibrations by using the human Body as the Magnetic Field Detection device with the rod (Calipers, twig, L Rods) as the Antenna. These same Antenna have an Opposite and Equal action in that they can alter the Fields as well as detect the Fields. Or as you put it.....I can manifest salt out of water! Its NOT a Resonant Fractal its MAGNETIC RESONANT FIELD PATTERN OF WATER and is likened to frequency.
 

 Daves numbers are 2D and do not represent the 3D nature of Matter.
 

 Dave's calipers would work better if he held a Atlantean Fire Crystal in his hands or wore one as a ring on a finger. 

 


 AND THIS

 

 Can I have your enlightened opinion on this Darren?
2 - The background field is resonant at 333000 Hz - and this is what powers all matter and energy forms present on earth
 found at   http://www.resonantfractals.org/Joe_Cell/VE-333.html http://www.resonantfractals.org/Joe_Cell/VE-333.html

 or anything else you care to add.


 Hi Lynn,
 I first heard of the vector equilibrium from Nassim Haramein many years ago now.
 Nassim spoke at Swannanoa (former headquarters of the US&P) in 2009.
 http://oneheartcenter.org/portfolio/nassim-haramein-2009-homecoming/ http://oneheartcenter.org/portfolio/nassim-haramein-2009-homecoming/
 

 In the presentation, he says he was going to copyright many things he thought he discovered until he read "Atomic Suicide?" and saw WR's images, then he realized Russell was several decades ahead of him in copyrighting (and I might add in understanding).
 

 In most of Nassim's lengthy presentations of his work he doesn't go into the connection with Russell, but many of the fundamentals of his theories are casually "borrowed" from Russell.
 

 The so-called "Quadrature Field" in the link you posted is what we call in Russell science the 'cathode inertial planes' within a Cube Wave-Field.
 

 God begins each electric thought-wave at a point of His White Light at the intersection of the three inner planes of the cube, which are at right angles to each other. This point of beginning is the wave fulcrum. It is also the point of idea-conception in Mind. It is the centering eye of the inert gas of the elements which springs from that plane. It is, likewise, the cathode center of man's electric current and the beginning of the wave-shaft which extends two ways to divide the red of the spectrum from the blue, to create separated father and mother bodies. Here also is where time and all other dimensions begin, as well as all other effects, such as life, compression, polarization and heat. Here also is where all depolarizing dimensions and effects end and disappear into invisibility, silence, and cold stillness of space.
 

 Neither God, nor man, create three-dimensional body-forms before conceiving the Mind-image of that form. Mind-images are thoughts. Body-images are actions, and actions are always in pairs. Thought-concepts are two-dimensional. Actions are polarized extensions, so actions are, necessarily, three-dimensional.
 

 Three-dimensional beginnings, such as VE, are impossible. The electrical nature of this universe demands a division from one plane located in a cathode.
 Polarization is the result of that one-plane division. Balanced equal and opposite pairs thus come into existence. Every united pair becomes an anode, which means a hot bodied three-dimensional mass, which is straining explosively to return to its non-dimensional beginning, which it does, but in doing it it leaves the record of its motion in two-dimensional thought-forms in its inert gas.
 

 Regarding "The background field is resonant at 333000 Hz - and this is what powers all matter and energy forms present on earth" ...
 

 To this I would remind every serious thinker that there is no energy within matter. 

 Idea is but simulated by matter-in-motion. Science has made the error of confusing motion for energy.
 All of the knowledge, energy and method of creating any product are properties of Mind alone. There is no knowledge, energy, life, truth, intelligence, substance or thought in the motion which matter is.
 

 As proof, consider the see-saw. As it oscillates, we say it exhibits energy. But the source, or power of that energy is in the FULCRUM, which everyone knows never moves!
 

 Mind is the fulcrum, upon which electricity manifests thinking in action to simulate a Universal idea.
 

 I'm convinced nobody really understands what 'resonance' actually is and its a buzz word that's thrown around by people when trying to sound competent. A 'background field' can't be 'resonant' at any frequency.
 

 The word background implies 'preceding matter' which is SPACE. Space is full of invisible gases.
 

 Long, low-amplitude waves of low potential and high frequencies constitute the invisible spectrum and low density gases of space, while short high-amplitude waves of high potential and low frequencies constitute the basis for high density solids.
 

 You will notice that the above sentence contradicts the relationship in modern physics between wavelength (lambda) and frequency, which is an inverse-relationship.
 

 However, for example a Sun, which is the highest potential created in a solar system, exists for millions or billions of year. So time actually extends and contracts with contracting and expanding waves!
 

 As a body is created, it is created in a duration of time, which retards as potential increases.
 

 For example we are carbon-based life forms, because carbon is the longest enduring element of the entire nine octaves. As it is compressed from space, its time duration increases, thus its frequency lowers so we can exists for long periods of time.
 I hope this clarifies,
 Best,
 DC

 




 

 

 You could have engaged me in debate Dave L but instead you chose to push you ideas and then claim Joes in agreement???"?"  

 "and determine what atoms are inside a sample, if you are a sensitive like Joe." You feel FREQUENCIES not atoms. Its the Field not electron flow.

 

 Joe says there are no elements, no atoms or electrons. Such hard headedness claiming they still exist.

 

 It was all said before but no one listened then so it all has to be said again.

OleWhat do you think could be done to make a substitute for the dimmer to be more reliable?Of course, I would rather just buy one at my local hardware store electrical departmentCheers Warren
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  On Fri., 28 Jun. 2019 at 8:22 p.m., [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
Hi Warren,

What is this Romex and where to get it?

Light dimmer circuit (https://www.digikey.com/en/articles/techzone/2012/jul/home-lighting-controllers-offer-dimming-compatibility):

Here is a circuit with some component values:

Source: http://www.oocities.org/tjacodesign/dimmer/dimmer.html

Regards
Ole



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DaveThe dimmer burning out? That dosen't sound bad. That sounds like there is power to spare, doesn't it?What happens if you don't use the dimmer? Does the bulb blow? And if the bulb blows, how can that be a bad thing? That just means there might  be higher voltage available, wouldn't you agree?So then , put two 100 watt light bulbs in series, or three .Mahahaha, this is sounding like fun Dave, how could you possibly keep such a nice, simple device under wraps?I have a friend in Tanzania, trying to get a whole village to prosper growing high quality peanuts.They could sure use electricity, in their operation.
Here in Canada, in the far North, whole villages of people have to have diesel air delivered, by twin Otter float planes, to power the town generator.Groceries? Diet? Global warming and the seal hunt, the caribou hunt, and teen suicides?Electricity could change the whole venue. Hydroponic gardens, heat and communications with a larger World that doesn't just represent financial predators.Oh those predators, they might get a little feisty no longer having a cash cow, quite the same way.So, I can't see any down side, really.It is time for this device to come out of the closet, and sing, and dance.Let's see what we can do with these things, and once working , get the young egg heads in, to try to noodle it out, why it works.So now, let's get some working!Okay guys, wake up! Break time is over. It is time to polish up your Variac, and break the bank, buying six feet of Romex, and a bunch of old fashioned, incandescent light bulbs, before they are out of stock.Thanks to DaveCheers Warren
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On Fri., 28 Jun. 2019 at 6:09 p.m., libra_spirit@... [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote: 
Warren,

Unfortunately the lamp dimmer burned up on the third trial out. It was the smallest one they had back then.I replaced it but never worked on this again.
Looks like the Autotransformer likely does have an iron core of some kind, don't know why I thought that when I took it all apart back then. I do remember the toroidal width of the coil inside it is 4" outside diameter.
Most all these component concepts came from Floyd Sweets diagrams, and videos.The diodes are - Mouser pn 511-BYT03-400   [ 3 Amp  400 volt  ultra fast damper ]
Dave L


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Well, Dave, it's easy enough if you use a universal motor to power the
stator coils separately to the rotor.
You can get a universal motor from basically any appliance that plugs into
the wall with a decent motor power.

Vacuum cleaners, or kitchen appliances are good bets.

It just takes a little looking at the wiring scheme to separate the two
likely without even cutting any wires.


On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 10:53 AM [email protected] [EVGRAY] <
[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> Hi All - Question
>
>
> Has any one here used pulse modulations on the motors you are playing with?
>
>
> I always wanted to try a pi / 2 ratio between two different pulse trains
> on a motor.
>
> I don't know if you can pulse the stator and rotor separatly to achieve
> this, but you would need two different frequencies to mix in order to set
> up a self sustaining form of vibraiton on the motor.
>
>
> The vibration energy is contained in the direction of motion vector, and
> is not per say electrical, although it can come from electrical modulation
> at 90 degrees to both.
>
>
> With an AC field however the field is in rotation.
>
>
> Also wanted to point out that I have observed in my experiments, vibration
> resonance has nothing to do with EM resonance althrough they can be coupled
> at 2 times the AC waves frequency.
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
> We can also set up an 89 / 50 vibration ratio around a spinning mass to
> lower it's resistance to acceleration.
>
> That is a ratio a bit larger then  pi / 2.
>
>
> Pi / 2 =  1.5707963 ...
>
>
> 89 / 50 =  1.78
>
>
> Thanks all for reading,
>
> Dave L
>
>
>
> 
>

BTW, I think that to work on this kind of thing, it would help to have
sensitivity.
Sensitivity is not hard to gain, and most people have some anyway.

It gives you important feedback, because the tech that Dave is presenting,
and in truth all real Free Energy, the type we are seeking is all based on
aetheric/subtle energy/vacuum energy/orgone/chi/vibration or whatever names
you want to give it.

But, you have to actually try, and be open to it.

I think you will find evidence that the majority of the Free Energy
inventors felt these energies, they were sensitive to energy.

On Sat, Jun 29, 2019 at 12:39 PM John Berry <[email protected]> wrote:

> Well, Dave, it's easy enough if you use a universal motor to power the
> stator coils separately to the rotor.
> You can get a universal motor from basically any appliance that plugs into
> the wall with a decent motor power.
>
> Vacuum cleaners, or kitchen appliances are good bets.
>
> It just takes a little looking at the wiring scheme to separate the two
> likely without even cutting any wires.
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 10:53 AM [email protected] [EVGRAY] <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Hi All - Question
>>
>>
>> Has any one here used pulse modulations on the motors you are playing
>> with?
>>
>>
>> I always wanted to try a pi / 2 ratio between two different pulse trains
>> on a motor.
>>
>> I don't know if you can pulse the stator and rotor separatly to achieve
>> this, but you would need two different frequencies to mix in order to set
>> up a self sustaining form of vibraiton on the motor.
>>
>>
>> The vibration energy is contained in the direction of motion vector, and
>> is not per say electrical, although it can come from electrical modulation
>> at 90 degrees to both.
>>
>>
>> With an AC field however the field is in rotation.
>>
>>
>> Also wanted to point out that I have observed in my experiments,
>> vibration resonance has nothing to do with EM resonance althrough they can
>> be coupled at 2 times the AC waves frequency.
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>>
>> We can also set up an 89 / 50 vibration ratio around a spinning mass to
>> lower it's resistance to acceleration.
>>
>> That is a ratio a bit larger then  pi / 2.
>>
>>
>> Pi / 2 =  1.5707963 ...
>>
>>
>> 89 / 50 =  1.78
>>
>>
>> Thanks all for reading,
>>
>> Dave L
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>

Hi Warren,

"What do you think could be done to make a substitute for the dimmer to be more reliable?"
Use a more powerful dimmer. Without knowing why it went dead my guess is that it went too hot. Using a higher rated TRIAC with proper cooling should do it. A TRIAC rated for perhaps 10A to 20A and at least twice the peak voltage being used might do it.

The relative fast turn on of the TRIAC generates lots of harmonics at radio frequencies. This is illegal here and a proper HF filter must be applied. The filter is usually an inductor combined with a capacitor. But this may also kill the self-running mode.

The vibration or hum felt when slightly touching capacitive coupled metal parts of appliances is because of the weak current running through the decoupling capacitors of mains filters. In my country where many appliances aren't grounded (double insulation required and ground fault current monitored) except in special areas or uses this hum can be felt on metal enclosures. Here is simple mains filter taken from this page (https://interferencetechnology.com/mains-input-filters-what-is-inside-the-box-and-why/ https://interferencetechnology.com/mains-input-filters-what-is-inside-the-box-and-why/):

As can be seen when the earth ground (EG) isn't used the EG potential is floating at half the voltage of the line voltage. The two capacitors connecting to EG forms a capacitive voltage divider. The current is small but still big enough to be felt as hum when slightly touching the EG of a metal cabinet not grounded and one self having good connection to ground.

Regards
Ole





---In [email protected], <schoonersolsticemoon@...> wrote :

 
Ole What do you think could be done to make a substitute for the dimmer to be more reliable?
 Of course, I would rather just buy one at my local hardware store electrical department
 Cheers Warren
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 On Fri., 28 Jun. 2019 at 8:22 p.m., onielsen@... [EVGRAY]
 <[email protected]> wrote:
 
   Hi Warren,

What is this Romex and where to get it?

Light dimmer circuit (https://www.digikey.com/en/articles/techzone/2012/jul/home-lighting-controllers-offer-dimming-compatibility https://www.digikey.com/en/articles/techzone/2012/jul/home-lighting-controllers-offer-dimming-compatibility):

Here is a circuit with some component values:

Source: http://www.oocities.org/tjacodesign/dimmer/dimmer.html http://www.oocities.org/tjacodesign/dimmer/dimmer.html

Regards
Ole

 

---In [email protected], <schoonersolsticemoon@...> wrote :

 Dave The dimmer burning out? That dosen't sound bad. That sounds like there is power to spare, doesn't it?
 What happens if you don't use the dimmer? Does the bulb blow?
  And if the bulb blows, how can that be a bad thing? That just means there might  be higher voltage available, wouldn't you agree?
 So then , put two 100 watt light bulbs in series, or three .
 Mahahaha, this is sounding like fun Dave, how could you possibly keep such a nice, simple device under wraps?
 I have a friend in Tanzania, trying to get a whole village to prosper growing high quality peanuts.
 They could sure use electricity, in their operation.
Here in Canada, in the far North, whole villages of people have to have diesel air delivered, by twin Otter float planes, to power the town generator.
 Groceries? Diet? Global warming and the seal hunt, the caribou hunt, and teen suicides?
 Electricity could change the whole venue. Hydroponic gardens, heat and communications with a larger World that doesn't just represent financial predators.
 Oh those predators, they might get a little feisty no longer having a cash cow, quite the same way.
 So, I can't see any down side, really.
 It is time for this device to come out of the closet, and sing, and dance.
 Let's see what we can do with these things, and once working , get the young egg heads in, to try to noodle it out, why it works.
 So now, let's get some working!
 Okay guys, wake up! Break time is over. It is time to polish up your Variac, and break the bank, buying six feet of Romex, and a bunch of old fashioned, incandescent light bulbs, before they are out of stock.
 Thanks to Dave
 Cheers Warren
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 On Fri., 28 Jun. 2019 at 6:09 p.m., libra_spirit@... [EVGRAY]
 <[email protected]> wrote:

   Warren,
 

 Unfortunately the lamp dimmer burned up on the third trial out. It was the smallest one they had back then.
 I replaced it but never worked on this again.
 

 Looks like the Autotransformer likely does have an iron core of some kind, don't know why I thought that when I took it all apart back then. I do remember the toroidal width of the coil inside it is 4" outside diameter.
 

 Most all these component concepts came from Floyd Sweets diagrams, and videos.
 The diodes are - Mouser pn 511-BYT03-400   [ 3 Amp  400 volt  ultra fast damper ]
 

 Dave L

Hi John,

"It gives you important feedback, because the tech that Dave is presenting, and in truth all real Free Energy, the type we are seeking is all based on aetheric/subtle energy/vacuum energy/orgone/chi/vibration or whatever names you want to give it."
Aetheric/subtle energy is probably electric field energy. Wilhelm Reich used electroscopes to measure orgone energy. Electroscopes also detect electric fields. Reich describes an experiment where what he measures is exactly the same if the word orgone is changed to electric charges. The behavior is the same. Some ET sources describe the aether as electrons. W.B. Smith describes it as either electrons or positrons. Smith in his theory constructs physical matter from electrons (or positrons) which he claims are formed when the three fields of electromagnetism phase locks into each other at right angle to each other. The theory of Rhythmodynamics shows how the forces operate and builds up fundamental particles from electrons and positrons to form quarks then neutrons and protons etc. Actually it all is just vibrational patterns.

We could make aether density detectors to measure the aether like measuring temperature and atmospheric pressure. This could be done by measuring the speed of light or by measuring the vacuum permittivity and vacuum permeability. The natural constants are changing or fluctuating. The values in tables of physics are the averaged values. W.B. Smith also had a binding force meter to measure the strength of the medium holding the atoms together. This could also be the density of the aether although he talked about some micro particle gas. Smith didn't have a way to calibrate his binding force meter to some physical constants.

Remember Volta used frog legs as detectors of electric current. Now we have special instruments calibrated to natural constants for that purpose. Proper instruments for detecting the aether should also be made if studying aether physics.

I just heard a podcast (in Danish) about a farmer having trouble with his water. Some of his cows won't drink the water. Then he got water from a neighboring well that the cows wouldn't drink either. The farmer blames a 10kV transmission line running along the water line. The electricity company has tried a local generator has shut down the 10kV line among other thing without solving the problem. The water is perfectly clean according to the instruments of a standard equipped test laboratory and when transported in a tank to an animal hospital cows there neither will drink the water. The cows will drink the water if transported in a tank instead of passing through the water line along the high voltage line. The people at the animal hospital can feel that the water is different when putting their hands into it or drinking it. The water feels and tastes dead but their measurements don't see this. Now further research has to be made.

Three years ago something like this also happened at a pork farm. This was an EMC problem. When shutting down the electricity at 1.5 km (almost one mile) radius around the farm 10V 50Hz could still be measured at the tap point. Also 50MHz to 80MHz with strength above the official limits of EM radiation could be measured.

Regards
Ole
 

---In [email protected], <aether22@...> wrote :

 BTW, I think that to work on this kind of thing, it would help to have sensitivity. Sensitivity is not hard to gain, and most people have some anyway.
 

 It gives you important feedback, because the tech that Dave is presenting, and in truth all real Free Energy, the type we are seeking is all based on aetheric/subtle energy/vacuum energy/orgone/chi/vibration or whatever names you want to give it.
 

 But, you have to actually try, and be open to it.
 

 I think you will find evidence that the majority of the Free Energy inventors felt these energies, they were sensitive to energy.


 On Sat, Jun 29, 2019 at 12:39 PM John Berry <aether22@... mailto:aether22@...> wrote:

 Well, Dave, it's easy enough if you use a universal motor to power the stator coils separately to the rotor. You can get a universal motor from basically any appliance that plugs into the wall with a decent motor power.
 

 Vacuum cleaners, or kitchen appliances are good bets.
 

 It just takes a little looking at the wiring scheme to separate the two likely without even cutting any wires.
 



 On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 10:53 AM libra_spirit@... mailto:libra_spirit@... [EVGRAY] <[email protected] mailto:[email protected]> wrote:

   
 Hi All - Question
 

 Has any one here used pulse modulations on the motors you are playing with?
 

 I always wanted to try a pi / 2 ratio between two different pulse trains on a motor.
 I don't know if you can pulse the stator and rotor separatly to achieve this, but you would need two different frequencies to mix in order to set up a self sustaining form of vibraiton on the motor.
 

 The vibration energy is contained in the direction of motion vector, and is not per say electrical, although it can come from electrical modulation at 90 degrees to both.
 

 With an AC field however the field is in rotation.
 

 Also wanted to point out that I have observed in my experiments, vibration resonance has nothing to do with EM resonance althrough they can be coupled at 2 times the AC waves frequency.
 

 ------------------------------------
 

 We can also set up an 89 / 50 vibration ratio around a spinning mass to lower it's resistance to acceleration.
 That is a ratio a bit larger then  pi / 2.
 

 Pi / 2 =  1.5707963 ...
 

 89 / 50 =  1.78
 

 Thanks all for reading,
 Dave L

Hi John,

"It gives you important feedback, because the tech that Dave is presenting,
and in truth all real Free Energy, the type we are seeking is all based on
aetheric/subtle energy/vacuum energy/orgone/chi/vibration or whatever names
you want to give it."
Aetheric/subtle energy is probably electric field energy.




*Well, there are all sorts of different aetheric energies.Some aetheric
energies seem to be the "ghosts" of electrons, protons and ions, and to
that extent then "close" would be my answer.But, there are many other type
of energies.This has become a slowly clearer and clearer picture over
thousands of experiments.*


 Wilhelm Reich used electroscopes to measure orgone energy. Electroscopes
also detect electric fields. Reich describes an experiment where what he
measures is exactly the same if the word orgone is changed to electric
charges.

*I agree that a large part of "orgone" is a sort of "subquantum", or,
ghostly, or semi-dematerialized electron.*
*I thought that was absurd when I heard about the idea and I disagreed, but
the experiments I did years later bore it out.*
*However that is only the most abundant/common aetheric energy.*

*Also, electric current flow "eats" this energy, this energy has a right
handed helical spin and is absorbed into coils with a right handed spin.
And electrons moving enmass have a right handed helical spin.*
*So electric current pulls this energy into it and pretty much destroys it,
or maybe converts it into regular "hard" electrons, this is why Tesla tried
to stop the electrical current, the electron drift.*
*One way to help fix this is to connect the negative pole only of
additional batteries tot he circuit as this can deliver some of this
electron like subtle energy!    Also batteries have been used in such a no
current manner for healing, the Lee Crock device.*


 The behavior is the same. Some ET sources describe the aether as
electrons. W.B. Smith describes it as either electrons or positrons. Smith
in his theory constructs physical matter from electrons (or positrons)
which he claims are formed when the three fields of electromagnetism phase
locks into each other at right angle to each other. The theory of
Rhythmodynamics shows how the forces operate and builds up fundamental
particles from electrons and positrons to form quarks then neutrons and
protons etc. Actually it all is just vibrational patterns.

*Yup, we are in agreement, only, it doesn't end there, there are other
energies, but the electrical type energy aether is most applicable to
electrical Free Energy!*

We could make aether density detectors to measure the aether like measuring
temperature and atmospheric pressure. This could be done by measuring the
speed of light or by measuring the vacuum permittivity and vacuum
permeability. The natural constants are changing or fluctuating. The values
in tables of physics are the averaged values. W.B. Smith also had a binding
force meter to measure the strength of the medium holding the atoms
together. This could also be the density of the aether although he talked
about some micro particle gas. Smith didn't have a way to calibrate his
binding force meter to some physical constants.

Remember Volta used frog legs as detectors of electric current. Now we have
special instruments calibrated to natural constants for that purpose.
Proper instruments for detecting the aether should also be made if studying
aether physics.



*Indeed, but, once you can feel it, it's easy to get lazy as any meter is
going to be clumsy by comparison.Never the less there are ways to measure
some types of this energy.At any rate, I doubt I will be one to make a
breakthrough in that area.*

*Once you become sensitive enough, it really makes meters almost redundant.*

I just heard a podcast (in Danish) about a farmer having trouble with his
water. Some of his cows won't drink the water. Then he got water from a
neighboring well that the cows wouldn't drink either. The farmer blames a
10kV transmission line running along the water line. The electricity
company has tried a local generator has shut down the 10kV line among other
thing without solving the problem. The water is perfectly clean according
to the instruments of a standard equipped test laboratory and when
transported in a tank to an animal hospital cows there neither will drink
the water. The cows will drink the water if transported in a tank instead
of passing through the water line along the high voltage line. The people
at the animal hospital can feel that the water is different when putting
their hands into it or drinking it. The water feels and tastes dead but
their measurements don't see this. Now further research has to be made.

*Would be interested in seeing if my work could help...*
*Any idea if the farmer might be contractible?*

Three years ago something like this also happened at a pork farm. This was
an EMC problem. When shutting down the electricity at 1.5 km (almost one
mile) radius around the farm 10V 50Hz could still be measured at the tap
point. Also 50MHz to 80MHz with strength above the official limits of EM
radiation could be measured.


Regards
Ole

On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 4:04 AM [email protected] [EVGRAY] <
[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> Hi John,
>
> "It gives you important feedback, because the tech that Dave is
> presenting, and in truth all real Free Energy, the type we are seeking is
> all based on aetheric/subtle energy/vacuum energy/orgone/chi/vibration or
> whatever names you want to give it."
> Aetheric/subtle energy is probably electric field energy. Wilhelm Reich
> used electroscopes to measure orgone energy. Electroscopes also detect
> electric fields. Reich describes an experiment where what he measures is
> exactly the same if the word orgone is changed to electric charges. The
> behavior is the same. Some ET sources describe the aether as electrons.
> W.B. Smith describes it as either electrons or positrons. Smith in his
> theory constructs physical matter from electrons (or positrons) which he
> claims are formed when the three fields of electromagnetism phase locks
> into each other at right angle to each other. The theory of Rhythmodynamics
> shows how the forces operate and builds up fundamental particles from
> electrons and positrons to form quarks then neutrons and protons etc.
> Actually it all is just vibrational patterns.
>
> We could make aether density detectors to measure the aether like
> measuring temperature and atmospheric pressure. This could be done by
> measuring the speed of light or by measuring the vacuum permittivity and
> vacuum permeability. The natural constants are changing or fluctuating. The
> values in tables of physics are the averaged values. W.B. Smith also had a
> binding force meter to measure the strength of the medium holding the atoms
> together. This could also be the density of the aether although he talked
> about some micro particle gas. Smith didn't have a way to calibrate his
> binding force meter to some physical constants.
>
> Remember Volta used frog legs as detectors of electric current. Now we
> have special instruments calibrated to natural constants for that purpose.
> Proper instruments for detecting the aether should also be made if studying
> aether physics.
>
> I just heard a podcast (in Danish) about a farmer having trouble with his
> water. Some of his cows won't drink the water. Then he got water from a
> neighboring well that the cows wouldn't drink either. The farmer blames a
> 10kV transmission line running along the water line. The electricity
> company has tried a local generator has shut down the 10kV line among other
> thing without solving the problem. The water is perfectly clean according
> to the instruments of a standard equipped test laboratory and when
> transported in a tank to an animal hospital cows there neither will drink
> the water. The cows will drink the water if transported in a tank instead
> of passing through the water line along the high voltage line. The people
> at the animal hospital can feel that the water is different when putting
> their hands into it or drinking it. The water feels and tastes dead but
> their measurements don't see this. Now further research has to be made.
>
> Three years ago something like this also happened at a pork farm. This was
> an EMC problem. When shutting down the electricity at 1.5 km (almost one
> mile) radius around the farm 10V 50Hz could still be measured at the tap
> point. Also 50MHz to 80MHz with strength above the official limits of EM
> radiation could be measured.
>
> Regards
> Ole
>
>
> ---In [email protected], <aether22@...> wrote :
>
> BTW, I think that to work on this kind of thing, it would help to have
> sensitivity.
> Sensitivity is not hard to gain, and most people have some anyway.
>
> It gives you important feedback, because the tech that Dave is presenting,
> and in truth all real Free Energy, the type we are seeking is all based on
> aetheric/subtle energy/vacuum energy/orgone/chi/vibration or whatever names
> you want to give it.
>
> But, you have to actually try, and be open to it.
>
> I think you will find evidence that the majority of the Free Energy
> inventors felt these energies, they were sensitive to energy.
>
> On Sat, Jun 29, 2019 at 12:39 PM John Berry <aether22@...> wrote:
>
> Well, Dave, it's easy enough if you use a universal motor to power the
> stator coils separately to the rotor.
> You can get a universal motor from basically any appliance that plugs into
> the wall with a decent motor power.
>
> Vacuum cleaners, or kitchen appliances are good bets.
>
> It just takes a little looking at the wiring scheme to separate the two
> likely without even cutting any wires.
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 10:53 AM libra_spirit@... [EVGRAY] <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi All - Question
>
>
> Has any one here used pulse modulations on the motors you are playing with?
>
>
> I always wanted to try a pi / 2 ratio between two different pulse trains
> on a motor.
>
> I don't know if you can pulse the stator and rotor separatly to achieve
> this, but you would need two different frequencies to mix in order to set
> up a self sustaining form of vibraiton on the motor.
>
>
> The vibration energy is contained in the direction of motion vector, and
> is not per say electrical, although it can come from electrical modulation
> at 90 degrees to both.
>
>
> With an AC field however the field is in rotation.
>
>
> Also wanted to point out that I have observed in my experiments, vibration
> resonance has nothing to do with EM resonance althrough they can be coupled
> at 2 times the AC waves frequency.
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
> We can also set up an 89 / 50 vibration ratio around a spinning mass to
> lower it's resistance to acceleration.
>
> That is a ratio a bit larger then  pi / 2.
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> Pi / 2 =  1.5707963 ...
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> 89 / 50 =  1.78
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> Thanks all for reading,
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> Dave L
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Hi John,

"Would be interested in seeing if my work could help... Any idea if the farmer might be contractible?"

No idea. I found the researcher doing electrical research on different farms that are having trouble with animals.

It looks like different authorities and experts want to find out what actually happens as this isn't the only case having such mysteries. Start of limited access article translated by Google: https://translate.google.dk/translate?hl=da&sl=da&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fing.dk%2Fartikel%2Fhovedbrud-forskere-sker-noget-uforklarligt-med-vandet-sjaellandsk-kostald-227012 https://translate.google.dk/translate?hl=da&sl=da&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fing.dk%2Fartikel%2Fhovedbrud-forskere-sker-noget-uforklarligt-med-vandet-sjaellandsk-kostald-227012. This is from the site with the podcast. The researcher Esben Larsen mentioned in the article who is studying the mystery: https://orbit.dtu.dk/en/persons/esben-larsen(aa50e83a-93d1-42b1-bd27-feb6ffda7bb9).html https://orbit.dtu.dk/en/persons/esben-larsen(aa50e83a-93d1-42b1-bd27-feb6ffda7bb9).html.
The latest article about another farm with the same kind of problems (pork farm): 
https://translate.google.dk/translate?hl=da&sl=da&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fing.dk%2Fartikel%2Fhvis-jeg-ikke-havde-vaeret-lektor-pa-dtu-havde-du-sagt-at-jeg-var-bindegal-227009 https://translate.google.dk/translate?hl=da&sl=da&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fing.dk%2Fartikel%2Fhvis-jeg-ikke-havde-vaeret-lektor-pa-dtu-havde-du-sagt-at-jeg-var-bindegal-227009


A little searching gave this article from a local newspaper mentioning the farmers name and the village. Google translation: https://translate.google.dk/translate?hl=da&tab=wT1&sl=da&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fsn.dk%2FSlagelse%2FLandmand-kaemper-mod-uoensket-stroem-Koeer-faar-stoed%2Fartikel%2F844378 https://translate.google.dk/translate?hl=da&tab=wT1&sl=da&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fsn.dk%2FSlagelse%2FLandmand-kaemper-mod-uoensket-stroem-Koeer-faar-stoed%2Fartikel%2F844378
The electricity line is not an aerial line as I mentioned but is actually running in the ground alongside the water line as mentioned in the above article. Here is an update on that article: https://translate.google.dk/translate?hl=da&sl=da&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fsn.dk%2FSlagelse%2FStroemplaget-landmand-kaster-haandklaedet-i-ringen%2Fartikel%2F848248 https://translate.google.dk/translate?hl=da&sl=da&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fsn.dk%2FSlagelse%2FStroemplaget-landmand-kaster-haandklaedet-i-ringen%2Fartikel%2F848248. This article has the farm address. It also mentions that the farmer has requested himself bankrupt. But that's not because of the problem with the cows.

More old info about the case: https://translate.google.dk/translate?hl=da&sl=da&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fdb-forening.dk%2Fvoldsomme-adfaerdsproblemer-hos-malkekvaeg-paa-sjaelland%2F https://translate.google.dk/translate?hl=da&sl=da&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fdb-forening.dk%2Fvoldsomme-adfaerdsproblemer-hos-malkekvaeg-paa-sjaelland%2F

I also found a pdf-document report https://svineproduktion.dk/-/media/PDF---Publikationer/Rapporter/Rapporter-2016/Rapport_50_fejlstrømme-og-unormal-adfærd-i-svinebesætning.ashx on the pork farm case. But this document is too big for Google translate in one piece.

There is another guy helping the farmers by using right angle bent brass or copper rods as detectors of ground currents. Others call this pseudo-science. This guy puts in extra grounding rods and wires to let the current bypass the buildings having trouble. He uses wires of 1.5 mm^2 which has greater impedance than the ground.

"Well, there are all sorts of different aetheric energies.
Some aetheric energies seem to be the "ghosts" of electrons, protons and ions, and to that extent then "close" would be my answer.
But, there are many other type of energies.
This has become a slowly clearer and clearer picture over thousands of experiments."

If reading William J. Hooper and Ivor Catt this can be deduced from electromagnetism. The things missing in popular or classical electromagnetism are the motional fields studied by Hooper and Catt. The motional electric field penetrates everything just like gravity. It doesn't obey Faraday's law of induction.

Regards
Ole
 

---In [email protected], <aether22@...> wrote :

 Hi John,

"It gives you important feedback, because the tech that Dave is presenting, and in truth all real Free Energy, the type we are seeking is all based on aetheric/subtle energy/vacuum energy/orgone/chi/vibration or whatever names you want to give it."
Aetheric/subtle energy is probably electric field energy. 

Well, there are all sorts of different aetheric energies.
Some aetheric energies seem to be the "ghosts" of electrons, protons and ions, and to that extent then "close" would be my answer.
But, there are many other type of energies.
This has become a slowly clearer and clearer picture over thousands of experiments. 

 

  Wilhelm Reich used electroscopes to measure orgone energy. Electroscopes also detect electric fields. Reich describes an experiment where what he measures is exactly the same if the word orgone is changed to electric charges.
 

I agree that a large part of "orgone" is a sort of "subquantum", or, ghostly, or semi-dematerialized electron. I thought that was absurd when I heard about the idea and I disagreed, but the experiments I did years later bore it out.
 However that is only the most abundant/common aetheric energy.
 

 Also, electric current flow "eats" this energy, this energy has a right handed helical spin and is absorbed into coils with a right handed spin.  And electrons moving enmass have a right handed helical spin.
 So electric current pulls this energy into it and pretty much destroys it, or maybe converts it into regular "hard" electrons, this is why Tesla tried to stop the electrical current, the electron drift.
 One way to help fix this is to connect the negative pole only of additional batteries tot he circuit as this can deliver some of this electron like subtle energy!    Also batteries have been used in such a no current manner for healing, the Lee Crock device.
 
 

  The behavior is the same. Some ET sources describe the aether as electrons. W.B. Smith describes it as either electrons or positrons. Smith in his theory constructs physical matter from electrons (or positrons) which he claims are formed when the three fields of electromagnetism phase locks into each other at right angle to each other. The theory of Rhythmodynamics shows how the forces operate and builds up fundamental particles from electrons and positrons to form quarks then neutrons and protons etc. Actually it all is just vibrational patterns.
 

 Yup, we are in agreement, only, it doesn't end there, there are other energies, but the electrical type energy aether is most applicable to electrical Free Energy!

We could make aether density detectors to measure the aether like measuring temperature and atmospheric pressure. This could be done by measuring the speed of light or by measuring the vacuum permittivity and vacuum permeability. The natural constants are changing or fluctuating. The values in tables of physics are the averaged values. W.B. Smith also had a binding force meter to measure the strength of the medium holding the atoms together. This could also be the density of the aether although he talked about some micro particle gas. Smith didn't have a way to calibrate his binding force meter to some physical constants.

Remember Volta used frog legs as detectors of electric current. Now we have special instruments calibrated to natural constants for that purpose. Proper instruments for detecting the aether should also be made if studying aether physics.
 

Indeed, but, once you can feel it, it's easy to get lazy as any meter is going to be clumsy by comparison.
Never the less there are ways to measure some types of this energy.
At any rate, I doubt I will be one to make a breakthrough in that area.
 Once you become sensitive enough, it really makes meters almost redundant.
 
I just heard a podcast (in Danish) about a farmer having trouble with his water. Some of his cows won't drink the water. Then he got water from a neighboring well that the cows wouldn't drink either. The farmer blames a 10kV transmission line running along the water line. The electricity company has tried a local generator has shut down the 10kV line among other thing without solving the problem. The water is perfectly clean according to the instruments of a standard equipped test laboratory and when transported in a tank to an animal hospital cows there neither will drink the water. The cows will drink the water if transported in a tank instead of passing through the water line along the high voltage line. The people at the animal hospital can feel that the water is different when putting their hands into it or drinking it. The water feels and tastes dead but their measurements don't see this. Now further research has to be made.

Would be interested in seeing if my work could help...
 Any idea if the farmer might be contractible?
 
Three years ago something like this also happened at a pork farm. This was an EMC problem. When shutting down the electricity at 1.5 km (almost one mile) radius around the farm 10V 50Hz could still be measured at the tap point. Also 50MHz to 80MHz with strength above the official limits of EM radiation could be measured.


Regards
Ole  




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Hi John,

Here is more on the cows refusing to drink water. Google translate (not perfect): https://translate.google.dk/translate?hl=da&tab=wT1&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fing.dk%2Fartikel%2Flandmanden-med-mystiske-vand-ingen-regner-mine-maalinger-noget-227119%3Futm_source%3Dnyhedsbrev%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_campaign%3Ding_daglig https://translate.google.dk/translate?hl=da&tab=wT1&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fing.dk%2Fartikel%2Flandmanden-med-mystiske-vand-ingen-regner-mine-maalinger-noget-227119%3Futm_source%3Dnyhedsbrev%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_campaign%3Ding_daglig

A video showing the cows drinking more like cats than cows: https://ing.dk/video/video-se-koeerne-drikker-katte-227120?utm_source=nyhedsbrev&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=ing_daglig https://ing.dk/video/video-se-koeerne-drikker-katte-227120?utm_source=nyhedsbrev&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=ing_daglig

Regards
Ole


 

---In [email protected], <onielsen@...> wrote :

 Hi John,

"Would be interested in seeing if my work could help... Any idea if the farmer might be contractible?"

No idea. I found the researcher doing electrical research on different farms that are having trouble with animals.

It looks like different authorities and experts want to find out what actually happens as this isn't the only case having such mysteries. Start of limited access article translated by Google: https://translate.google.dk/translate?hl=da&sl=da&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fing.dk%2Fartikel%2Fhovedbrud-forskere-sker-noget-uforklarligt-med-vandet-sjaellandsk-kostald-227012 https://translate.google.dk/translate?hl=da&sl=da&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fing.dk%2Fartikel%2Fhovedbrud-forskere-sker-noget-uforklarligt-med-vandet-sjaellandsk-kostald-227012. This is from the site with the podcast. The researcher Esben Larsen mentioned in the article who is studying the mystery: https://orbit.dtu.dk/en/persons/esben-larsen(aa50e83a-93d1-42b1-bd27-feb6ffda7bb9).html https://orbit.dtu.dk/en/persons/esben-larsen(aa50e83a-93d1-42b1-bd27-feb6ffda7bb9).html.
The latest article about another farm with the same kind of problems (pork farm): 
https://translate.google.dk/translate?hl=da&sl=da&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fing.dk%2Fartikel%2Fhvis-jeg-ikke-havde-vaeret-lektor-pa-dtu-havde-du-sagt-at-jeg-var-bindegal-227009 https://translate.google.dk/translate?hl=da&sl=da&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fing.dk%2Fartikel%2Fhvis-jeg-ikke-havde-vaeret-lektor-pa-dtu-havde-du-sagt-at-jeg-var-bindegal-227009


A little searching gave this article from a local newspaper mentioning the farmers name and the village. Google translation: https://translate.google.dk/translate?hl=da&tab=wT1&sl=da&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fsn.dk%2FSlagelse%2FLandmand-kaemper-mod-uoensket-stroem-Koeer-faar-stoed%2Fartikel%2F844378 https://translate.google.dk/translate?hl=da&tab=wT1&sl=da&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fsn.dk%2FSlagelse%2FLandmand-kaemper-mod-uoensket-stroem-Koeer-faar-stoed%2Fartikel%2F844378
The electricity line is not an aerial line as I mentioned but is actually running in the ground alongside the water line as mentioned in the above article. Here is an update on that article: https://translate.google.dk/translate?hl=da&sl=da&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fsn.dk%2FSlagelse%2FStroemplaget-landmand-kaster-haandklaedet-i-ringen%2Fartikel%2F848248 https://translate.google.dk/translate?hl=da&sl=da&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fsn.dk%2FSlagelse%2FStroemplaget-landmand-kaster-haandklaedet-i-ringen%2Fartikel%2F848248. This article has the farm address. It also mentions that the farmer has requested himself bankrupt. But that's not because of the problem with the cows.

More old info about the case: https://translate.google.dk/translate?hl=da&sl=da&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fdb-forening.dk%2Fvoldsomme-adfaerdsproblemer-hos-malkekvaeg-paa-sjaelland%2F https://translate.google.dk/translate?hl=da&sl=da&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fdb-forening.dk%2Fvoldsomme-adfaerdsproblemer-hos-malkekvaeg-paa-sjaelland%2F

I also found a pdf-document report https://svineproduktion.dk/-/media/PDF---Publikationer/Rapporter/Rapporter-2016/Rapport_50_fejlstrømme-og-unormal-adfærd-i-svinebesætning.ashx on the pork farm case. But this document is too big for Google translate in one piece.

There is another guy helping the farmers by using right angle bent brass or copper rods as detectors of ground currents. Others call this pseudo-science. This guy puts in extra grounding rods and wires to let the current bypass the buildings having trouble. He uses wires of 1.5 mm^2 which has greater impedance than the ground.

"Well, there are all sorts of different aetheric energies.
Some aetheric energies seem to be the "ghosts" of electrons, protons and ions, and to that extent then "close" would be my answer.
But, there are many other type of energies.
This has become a slowly clearer and clearer picture over thousands of experiments."

If reading William J. Hooper and Ivor Catt this can be deduced from electromagnetism. The things missing in popular or classical electromagnetism are the motional fields studied by Hooper and Catt. The motional electric field penetrates everything just like gravity. It doesn't obey Faraday's law of induction.

Regards
Ole
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