Re: [EVGRAY] Hi All - Question

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Hi John,

"Would be interested in seeing if my work could help... Any idea if the farmer might be contractible?"

No idea. I found the researcher doing electrical research on different farms that are having trouble with animals.

It looks like different authorities and experts want to find out what actually happens as this isn't the only case having such mysteries. Start of limited access article translated by Google: https://translate.google.dk/translate?hl=da&sl=da&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fing.dk%2Fartikel%2Fhovedbrud-forskere-sker-noget-uforklarligt-med-vandet-sjaellandsk-kostald-227012 https://translate.google.dk/translate?hl=da&sl=da&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fing.dk%2Fartikel%2Fhovedbrud-forskere-sker-noget-uforklarligt-med-vandet-sjaellandsk-kostald-227012. This is from the site with the podcast. The researcher Esben Larsen mentioned in the article who is studying the mystery: https://orbit.dtu.dk/en/persons/esben-larsen(aa50e83a-93d1-42b1-bd27-feb6ffda7bb9).html https://orbit.dtu.dk/en/persons/esben-larsen(aa50e83a-93d1-42b1-bd27-feb6ffda7bb9).html.
The latest article about another farm with the same kind of problems (pork farm): 
https://translate.google.dk/translate?hl=da&sl=da&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fing.dk%2Fartikel%2Fhvis-jeg-ikke-havde-vaeret-lektor-pa-dtu-havde-du-sagt-at-jeg-var-bindegal-227009 https://translate.google.dk/translate?hl=da&sl=da&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fing.dk%2Fartikel%2Fhvis-jeg-ikke-havde-vaeret-lektor-pa-dtu-havde-du-sagt-at-jeg-var-bindegal-227009


A little searching gave this article from a local newspaper mentioning the farmers name and the village. Google translation: https://translate.google.dk/translate?hl=da&tab=wT1&sl=da&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fsn.dk%2FSlagelse%2FLandmand-kaemper-mod-uoensket-stroem-Koeer-faar-stoed%2Fartikel%2F844378 https://translate.google.dk/translate?hl=da&tab=wT1&sl=da&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fsn.dk%2FSlagelse%2FLandmand-kaemper-mod-uoensket-stroem-Koeer-faar-stoed%2Fartikel%2F844378
The electricity line is not an aerial line as I mentioned but is actually running in the ground alongside the water line as mentioned in the above article. Here is an update on that article: https://translate.google.dk/translate?hl=da&sl=da&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fsn.dk%2FSlagelse%2FStroemplaget-landmand-kaster-haandklaedet-i-ringen%2Fartikel%2F848248 https://translate.google.dk/translate?hl=da&sl=da&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fsn.dk%2FSlagelse%2FStroemplaget-landmand-kaster-haandklaedet-i-ringen%2Fartikel%2F848248. This article has the farm address. It also mentions that the farmer has requested himself bankrupt. But that's not because of the problem with the cows.

More old info about the case: https://translate.google.dk/translate?hl=da&sl=da&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fdb-forening.dk%2Fvoldsomme-adfaerdsproblemer-hos-malkekvaeg-paa-sjaelland%2F https://translate.google.dk/translate?hl=da&sl=da&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fdb-forening.dk%2Fvoldsomme-adfaerdsproblemer-hos-malkekvaeg-paa-sjaelland%2F

I also found a pdf-document report https://svineproduktion.dk/-/media/PDF---Publikationer/Rapporter/Rapporter-2016/Rapport_50_fejlstrømme-og-unormal-adfærd-i-svinebesætning.ashx on the pork farm case. But this document is too big for Google translate in one piece.

There is another guy helping the farmers by using right angle bent brass or copper rods as detectors of ground currents. Others call this pseudo-science. This guy puts in extra grounding rods and wires to let the current bypass the buildings having trouble. He uses wires of 1.5 mm^2 which has greater impedance than the ground.

"Well, there are all sorts of different aetheric energies.
Some aetheric energies seem to be the "ghosts" of electrons, protons and ions, and to that extent then "close" would be my answer.
But, there are many other type of energies.
This has become a slowly clearer and clearer picture over thousands of experiments."

If reading William J. Hooper and Ivor Catt this can be deduced from electromagnetism. The things missing in popular or classical electromagnetism are the motional fields studied by Hooper and Catt. The motional electric field penetrates everything just like gravity. It doesn't obey Faraday's law of induction.

Regards
Ole
 

---In [email protected], <aether22@...> wrote :

 Hi John,

"It gives you important feedback, because the tech that Dave is presenting, and in truth all real Free Energy, the type we are seeking is all based on aetheric/subtle energy/vacuum energy/orgone/chi/vibration or whatever names you want to give it."
Aetheric/subtle energy is probably electric field energy. 

Well, there are all sorts of different aetheric energies.
Some aetheric energies seem to be the "ghosts" of electrons, protons and ions, and to that extent then "close" would be my answer.
But, there are many other type of energies.
This has become a slowly clearer and clearer picture over thousands of experiments. 

 

  Wilhelm Reich used electroscopes to measure orgone energy. Electroscopes also detect electric fields. Reich describes an experiment where what he measures is exactly the same if the word orgone is changed to electric charges.
 

I agree that a large part of "orgone" is a sort of "subquantum", or, ghostly, or semi-dematerialized electron. I thought that was absurd when I heard about the idea and I disagreed, but the experiments I did years later bore it out.
 However that is only the most abundant/common aetheric energy.
 

 Also, electric current flow "eats" this energy, this energy has a right handed helical spin and is absorbed into coils with a right handed spin.  And electrons moving enmass have a right handed helical spin.
 So electric current pulls this energy into it and pretty much destroys it, or maybe converts it into regular "hard" electrons, this is why Tesla tried to stop the electrical current, the electron drift.
 One way to help fix this is to connect the negative pole only of additional batteries tot he circuit as this can deliver some of this electron like subtle energy!    Also batteries have been used in such a no current manner for healing, the Lee Crock device.
 
 

  The behavior is the same. Some ET sources describe the aether as electrons. W.B. Smith describes it as either electrons or positrons. Smith in his theory constructs physical matter from electrons (or positrons) which he claims are formed when the three fields of electromagnetism phase locks into each other at right angle to each other. The theory of Rhythmodynamics shows how the forces operate and builds up fundamental particles from electrons and positrons to form quarks then neutrons and protons etc. Actually it all is just vibrational patterns.
 

 Yup, we are in agreement, only, it doesn't end there, there are other energies, but the electrical type energy aether is most applicable to electrical Free Energy!

We could make aether density detectors to measure the aether like measuring temperature and atmospheric pressure. This could be done by measuring the speed of light or by measuring the vacuum permittivity and vacuum permeability. The natural constants are changing or fluctuating. The values in tables of physics are the averaged values. W.B. Smith also had a binding force meter to measure the strength of the medium holding the atoms together. This could also be the density of the aether although he talked about some micro particle gas. Smith didn't have a way to calibrate his binding force meter to some physical constants.

Remember Volta used frog legs as detectors of electric current. Now we have special instruments calibrated to natural constants for that purpose. Proper instruments for detecting the aether should also be made if studying aether physics.
 

Indeed, but, once you can feel it, it's easy to get lazy as any meter is going to be clumsy by comparison.
Never the less there are ways to measure some types of this energy.
At any rate, I doubt I will be one to make a breakthrough in that area.
 Once you become sensitive enough, it really makes meters almost redundant.
 
I just heard a podcast (in Danish) about a farmer having trouble with his water. Some of his cows won't drink the water. Then he got water from a neighboring well that the cows wouldn't drink either. The farmer blames a 10kV transmission line running along the water line. The electricity company has tried a local generator has shut down the 10kV line among other thing without solving the problem. The water is perfectly clean according to the instruments of a standard equipped test laboratory and when transported in a tank to an animal hospital cows there neither will drink the water. The cows will drink the water if transported in a tank instead of passing through the water line along the high voltage line. The people at the animal hospital can feel that the water is different when putting their hands into it or drinking it. The water feels and tastes dead but their measurements don't see this. Now further research has to be made.

Would be interested in seeing if my work could help...
 Any idea if the farmer might be contractible?
 
Three years ago something like this also happened at a pork farm. This was an EMC problem. When shutting down the electricity at 1.5 km (almost one mile) radius around the farm 10V 50Hz could still be measured at the tap point. Also 50MHz to 80MHz with strength above the official limits of EM radiation could be measured.


Regards
Ole  




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