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Hi John,
"It gives you important feedback, because the tech that Dave is presenting,
and in truth all real Free Energy, the type we are seeking is all based on
aetheric/subtle energy/vacuum energy/orgone/chi/vibration or whatever names
you want to give it."
Aetheric/subtle energy is probably electric field energy.
*Well, there are all sorts of different aetheric energies.Some aetheric
energies seem to be the "ghosts" of electrons, protons and ions, and to
that extent then "close" would be my answer.But, there are many other type
of energies.This has become a slowly clearer and clearer picture over
thousands of experiments.*
Wilhelm Reich used electroscopes to measure orgone energy. Electroscopes
also detect electric fields. Reich describes an experiment where what he
measures is exactly the same if the word orgone is changed to electric
charges.
*I agree that a large part of "orgone" is a sort of "subquantum", or,
ghostly, or semi-dematerialized electron.*
*I thought that was absurd when I heard about the idea and I disagreed, but
the experiments I did years later bore it out.*
*However that is only the most abundant/common aetheric energy.*
*Also, electric current flow "eats" this energy, this energy has a right
handed helical spin and is absorbed into coils with a right handed spin.
And electrons moving enmass have a right handed helical spin.*
*So electric current pulls this energy into it and pretty much destroys it,
or maybe converts it into regular "hard" electrons, this is why Tesla tried
to stop the electrical current, the electron drift.*
*One way to help fix this is to connect the negative pole only of
additional batteries tot he circuit as this can deliver some of this
electron like subtle energy! Also batteries have been used in such a no
current manner for healing, the Lee Crock device.*
The behavior is the same. Some ET sources describe the aether as
electrons. W.B. Smith describes it as either electrons or positrons. Smith
in his theory constructs physical matter from electrons (or positrons)
which he claims are formed when the three fields of electromagnetism phase
locks into each other at right angle to each other. The theory of
Rhythmodynamics shows how the forces operate and builds up fundamental
particles from electrons and positrons to form quarks then neutrons and
protons etc. Actually it all is just vibrational patterns.
*Yup, we are in agreement, only, it doesn't end there, there are other
energies, but the electrical type energy aether is most applicable to
electrical Free Energy!*
We could make aether density detectors to measure the aether like measuring
temperature and atmospheric pressure. This could be done by measuring the
speed of light or by measuring the vacuum permittivity and vacuum
permeability. The natural constants are changing or fluctuating. The values
in tables of physics are the averaged values. W.B. Smith also had a binding
force meter to measure the strength of the medium holding the atoms
together. This could also be the density of the aether although he talked
about some micro particle gas. Smith didn't have a way to calibrate his
binding force meter to some physical constants.
Remember Volta used frog legs as detectors of electric current. Now we have
special instruments calibrated to natural constants for that purpose.
Proper instruments for detecting the aether should also be made if studying
aether physics.
*Indeed, but, once you can feel it, it's easy to get lazy as any meter is
going to be clumsy by comparison.Never the less there are ways to measure
some types of this energy.At any rate, I doubt I will be one to make a
breakthrough in that area.*
*Once you become sensitive enough, it really makes meters almost redundant.*
I just heard a podcast (in Danish) about a farmer having trouble with his
water. Some of his cows won't drink the water. Then he got water from a
neighboring well that the cows wouldn't drink either. The farmer blames a
10kV transmission line running along the water line. The electricity
company has tried a local generator has shut down the 10kV line among other
thing without solving the problem. The water is perfectly clean according
to the instruments of a standard equipped test laboratory and when
transported in a tank to an animal hospital cows there neither will drink
the water. The cows will drink the water if transported in a tank instead
of passing through the water line along the high voltage line. The people
at the animal hospital can feel that the water is different when putting
their hands into it or drinking it. The water feels and tastes dead but
their measurements don't see this. Now further research has to be made.
*Would be interested in seeing if my work could help...*
*Any idea if the farmer might be contractible?*
Three years ago something like this also happened at a pork farm. This was
an EMC problem. When shutting down the electricity at 1.5 km (almost one
mile) radius around the farm 10V 50Hz could still be measured at the tap
point. Also 50MHz to 80MHz with strength above the official limits of EM
radiation could be measured.
Regards
Ole
On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 4:04 AM [email protected] [EVGRAY] <
[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Hi John,
>
> "It gives you important feedback, because the tech that Dave is
> presenting, and in truth all real Free Energy, the type we are seeking is
> all based on aetheric/subtle energy/vacuum energy/orgone/chi/vibration or
> whatever names you want to give it."
> Aetheric/subtle energy is probably electric field energy. Wilhelm Reich
> used electroscopes to measure orgone energy. Electroscopes also detect
> electric fields. Reich describes an experiment where what he measures is
> exactly the same if the word orgone is changed to electric charges. The
> behavior is the same. Some ET sources describe the aether as electrons.
> W.B. Smith describes it as either electrons or positrons. Smith in his
> theory constructs physical matter from electrons (or positrons) which he
> claims are formed when the three fields of electromagnetism phase locks
> into each other at right angle to each other. The theory of Rhythmodynamics
> shows how the forces operate and builds up fundamental particles from
> electrons and positrons to form quarks then neutrons and protons etc.
> Actually it all is just vibrational patterns.
>
> We could make aether density detectors to measure the aether like
> measuring temperature and atmospheric pressure. This could be done by
> measuring the speed of light or by measuring the vacuum permittivity and
> vacuum permeability. The natural constants are changing or fluctuating. The
> values in tables of physics are the averaged values. W.B. Smith also had a
> binding force meter to measure the strength of the medium holding the atoms
> together. This could also be the density of the aether although he talked
> about some micro particle gas. Smith didn't have a way to calibrate his
> binding force meter to some physical constants.
>
> Remember Volta used frog legs as detectors of electric current. Now we
> have special instruments calibrated to natural constants for that purpose.
> Proper instruments for detecting the aether should also be made if studying
> aether physics.
>
> I just heard a podcast (in Danish) about a farmer having trouble with his
> water. Some of his cows won't drink the water. Then he got water from a
> neighboring well that the cows wouldn't drink either. The farmer blames a
> 10kV transmission line running along the water line. The electricity
> company has tried a local generator has shut down the 10kV line among other
> thing without solving the problem. The water is perfectly clean according
> to the instruments of a standard equipped test laboratory and when
> transported in a tank to an animal hospital cows there neither will drink
> the water. The cows will drink the water if transported in a tank instead
> of passing through the water line along the high voltage line. The people
> at the animal hospital can feel that the water is different when putting
> their hands into it or drinking it. The water feels and tastes dead but
> their measurements don't see this. Now further research has to be made.
>
> Three years ago something like this also happened at a pork farm. This was
> an EMC problem. When shutting down the electricity at 1.5 km (almost one
> mile) radius around the farm 10V 50Hz could still be measured at the tap
> point. Also 50MHz to 80MHz with strength above the official limits of EM
> radiation could be measured.
>
> Regards
> Ole
>
>
> ---In [email protected], <aether22@...> wrote :
>
> BTW, I think that to work on this kind of thing, it would help to have
> sensitivity.
> Sensitivity is not hard to gain, and most people have some anyway.
>
> It gives you important feedback, because the tech that Dave is presenting,
> and in truth all real Free Energy, the type we are seeking is all based on
> aetheric/subtle energy/vacuum energy/orgone/chi/vibration or whatever names
> you want to give it.
>
> But, you have to actually try, and be open to it.
>
> I think you will find evidence that the majority of the Free Energy
> inventors felt these energies, they were sensitive to energy.
>
> On Sat, Jun 29, 2019 at 12:39 PM John Berry <aether22@...> wrote:
>
> Well, Dave, it's easy enough if you use a universal motor to power the
> stator coils separately to the rotor.
> You can get a universal motor from basically any appliance that plugs into
> the wall with a decent motor power.
>
> Vacuum cleaners, or kitchen appliances are good bets.
>
> It just takes a little looking at the wiring scheme to separate the two
> likely without even cutting any wires.
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 10:53 AM libra_spirit@... [EVGRAY] <
> [email protected]> wrote:
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>
>
> Hi All - Question
>
>
> Has any one here used pulse modulations on the motors you are playing with?
>
>
> I always wanted to try a pi / 2 ratio between two different pulse trains
> on a motor.
>
> I don't know if you can pulse the stator and rotor separatly to achieve
> this, but you would need two different frequencies to mix in order to set
> up a self sustaining form of vibraiton on the motor.
>
>
> The vibration energy is contained in the direction of motion vector, and
> is not per say electrical, although it can come from electrical modulation
> at 90 degrees to both.
>
>
> With an AC field however the field is in rotation.
>
>
> Also wanted to point out that I have observed in my experiments, vibration
> resonance has nothing to do with EM resonance althrough they can be coupled
> at 2 times the AC waves frequency.
>
>
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>
> We can also set up an 89 / 50 vibration ratio around a spinning mass to
> lower it's resistance to acceleration.
>
> That is a ratio a bit larger then pi / 2.
>
>
> Pi / 2 = 1.5707963 ...
>
>
> 89 / 50 = 1.78
>
>
> Thanks all for reading,
>
> Dave L
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