Re: [EVGRAY] What is he trying to do here?

Your question in header???  Duh!!   Both Hector and I have been posting 
for several years now our ability to evoke a Neutral Spike earth 
response to no avail! Tesla started all this way back in 1899 with his 
work in telegraphy and gave you a working drawing as to how it all works 
on page 25 of the Colorado Springs Notes. I posted exactly how to 
isolate a charged capacitor /inductor at saturation with absolutely no 
reference which causes the energy to evoke a neutral spike when energy 
collapses thus changing forms of energy into an EMP like event. This is 
a classic Magneto-Electric event that Dr. Mileweski wrote about in Super 
Light.

*WHAT IS SUPERLIGHT ?*

*By:Dr. John Mileweski***

*SuperLight is magnetic light; it is **magneto–electric radiation**. *

*Regular light is electric light or **electro–magnetic radiation**. 
There is parity or symmetry the Universe, everything has an equal and 
opposite mirror–image counterpart, the Ying and the Yang, right and 
left, matter and anti matter, the electron and the positron. Why not 
light? *

*Both science and metaphysics have honored this parity law in all things 
except light. They are wrong. **  There is parity in light as well ! *

*I will now explain and give you more detail. *

*SuperLight is the unseen force in nature that has been ignored by 
science but real to the mystics and metaphysicians for thousands of 
years. It has been given different names by different cultures for 
thousands of years. *

*A Nuous, Chi, Biomagnetic Energy, Wilhelm Reich's Orgone Energy, 
Tesler's Free Earth Energy, Animal Magnetism, Space Energy, Vacuum 
Energy, and Zero Point Energy, etc. Those who have subtle perception 
know it is real. *

*SuperLight was identified scientifically over 100 years ago when James 
Clerk Maxwell <http://www.hbci.com/%7Ewenonah/new/report.htm> solved his 
famous wave equation. This occurred shortly after radio was invented by 
Nikola Tesla <http://www.hbci.com/%7Ewenonah/new/tesla.htm>, and 
theoretical physicists tried to find a mathematical model to explain 
radio waves. When using positive numbers in Maxwell's Equations this 
explains radio waves and also all forms of electro–magnetic radiation 
such as light, radio, TV, microwaves, x–rays, etc. What his equation 
also explains 100 years ago was SuperLight but because it was the 
solution that comes from the use of negative numbers, **"this second 
solution"**was ignored for over 100 years. Remember when you were taught 
algebra and were told to ignore imaginary numbers (e.g. The square root 
of –1) because they have no meaning in this world. Well, times have 
changed and now we have a very valid second solution to Maxwell's 
equation and it is SuperLight. *

*In the mid 70's a scientist, Dr. William Tiller, at Stanford University 
took another look at Maxwell's equation and asked; "What does this 
second solution explain when interpreted in our world."_{1} *

*To understand this second solution, we must first review what the first 
or positive solution explains. The first solution is as follows: Radio 
waves leave the antenna and radiate out into space from a point source 
(the antenna) equally in all directions into space toward infinity 
traveling at the speed of light. The wave is composed of a large 
electrical component and a small magnetic component 90 degrees to the 
electrical component. Thus named, electro–magnetic radiation. *

*The second solution describes a particle wave of just the opposite 
structure. It explains that **from infinity traveling toward the point 
source from all directions radiates SuperLight**. This new radiation is 
composed of a large magnetic component and a small electrical component, 
thus the name, magneto–electric radiation. When the equations are looked 
at more closely, one finds that **"SuperLight" travels at the speed of 
light squared !**  10^20 meters per second,   or 10 billion times faster 
than light <http://www.hbci.com/%7Ewenonah/new/gravity2.htm>. *

*It has a frequency 10 billion times higher, and has a corresponding, 
shorter wavelength.   It therefore has a higher energy density. *

*The question one asks immediately is, "if it is so powerful, how come 
we do not feel it, or how come it is not detected scientifically?"   
Well, the frequency is so high, its wave length so short, (4 x 10^–8 
nano–meters, or 4 x 10^–17 meters), its velocity so fast, that it goes 
through everything as though the substance was nearly completely 
transparent (like glass). *

*We can say the higher frequency is completely penetrating like x–rays, 
but even more so. More information, regarding the relative size, will be 
given later. *

*WHERE DOES SUPERLIGHT COME FROM ?***

*It comes out of black holes !***

*First, I will describe how regular light is formed and then make the 
analogy for SuperLight. *

*Regular electro–magnetic radiation or light is formed when electric 
monopoles give off energy. The electron in orbit about our atoms is an 
electric monopole — as it changes its' orbit it either gives off or 
absorbs energy in the form of electro– magnetic radiation. Sunlight is 
converted into electricity by this process in a solar cell. Just the 
opposite occurs in optical diodes, which convert electricity into light. *

*So, electro magnetic radiation or visible light is produced when an 
electron (an electric monopole) lowers its orbit and releases its energy 
in the form of light. *

*Now, I believe a similar event occurs in the extremely dense and hot 
matter found in black holes. It is theorized that black holes contain 
magnetic monopoles and when these extremely dense, extremely small, 
extremely energetic magnetic monopoles release energy by lowering their 
orbit they radiate magneto–electric radiation, our SuperLight. So black 
holes really are not so black. They are radiant beings of SuperLight. Of 
course SuperLight escapes the strong gravitation forces of the black 
holes because its velocity is the square of the velocity of light and it 
therefore, can easily escape._{7} *

*The current scientific thinking is that in the center of every galaxy 
in the universe is a black hole. There are billions and billions of 
galaxies all around us, and they all are producing SuperLight. We are 
literally bathed in a three-dimensional dynamic energy field, or an 
"Ether" of SuperLight — a Dynamic Ether. *

Please tell me what You do not understand regarding this obvious 
technology?????????
Remember!   Energy cannot be destroyed! It changes into forms that are 
foreign to our knowledge base!  But we are learning how to handle this 
change of form and put it into practical use!    I guess Tesla was right 
with his saying, We have been set back 100 years in our scientific 
advancement with the total shoot down of the Aetheric Theory.  Please 
play catch up to the best of your ability!   Norm PS:  Please go back 
and review my postings regarding Neutral Spike! And Hectors posting on 
Coil banging!


On 7/16/2018 6:32 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
> Any opinions?
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yhl5kc7ddck
>
>
>

Classic Hector coil banging and My Neutral Spike experiment rolled into 
one  Also Tesla original 1899 revelation regarding his Telegraphy 
experiments.


On 7/16/2018 8:36 AM, Warren Keillor [email protected] 
[EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Hi Darrell
>
> He seems to be doing a very pragmatic series of experiments with 
> nicely presented apparatus
> I think we can use his data as trustworthy
> Cheers Warren
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>
>     On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 at 7:32 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]
>     <[email protected]> wrote:
>     Any opinions?
>
>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yhl5kc7ddck
>
>
>

Any opinions? 

 

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yhl5kc7ddck https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yhl5kc7ddck

Hi DarrellHe seems to be doing a very pragmatic series of experiments with nicely presented apparatusI think we can use his data as trustworthyCheers Warren

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 at 7:32 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       

Any opinions? 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yhl5kc7ddck



  #yiv2519791711 #yiv2519791711 -- #yiv2519791711ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv2519791711 #yiv2519791711ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv2519791711 #yiv2519791711ygrp-mkp #yiv2519791711hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv2519791711 #yiv2519791711ygrp-mkp #yiv2519791711ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv2519791711 #yiv2519791711ygrp-mkp .yiv2519791711ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv2519791711 #yiv2519791711ygrp-mkp .yiv2519791711ad p {margin:0;}#yiv2519791711 #yiv2519791711ygrp-mkp .yiv2519791711ad a {color:#0000ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv2519791711 #yiv2519791711ygrp-sponsor #yiv2519791711ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv2519791711 #yiv2519791711ygrp-sponsor #yiv2519791711ygrp-lc #yiv2519791711hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv2519791711 #yiv2519791711ygrp-sponsor #yiv2519791711ygrp-lc .yiv2519791711ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv2519791711 #yiv2519791711actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv2519791711 #yiv2519791711activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv2519791711 #yiv2519791711activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv2519791711 #yiv2519791711activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv2519791711 #yiv2519791711activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv2519791711 #yiv2519791711activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv2519791711 #yiv2519791711activity span .yiv2519791711underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv2519791711 .yiv2519791711attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;}#yiv2519791711 .yiv2519791711attach div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv2519791711 .yiv2519791711attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;}#yiv2519791711 .yiv2519791711attach label {display:block;margin-bottom:5px;}#yiv2519791711 .yiv2519791711attach label a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv2519791711 blockquote {margin:0 0 0 4px;}#yiv2519791711 .yiv2519791711bold {font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;}#yiv2519791711 .yiv2519791711bold a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv2519791711 dd.yiv2519791711last p a {font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv2519791711 dd.yiv2519791711last p span {margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv2519791711 dd.yiv2519791711last p span.yiv2519791711yshortcuts {margin-right:0;}#yiv2519791711 div.yiv2519791711attach-table div div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv2519791711 div.yiv2519791711attach-table {width:400px;}#yiv2519791711 div.yiv2519791711file-title a, #yiv2519791711 div.yiv2519791711file-title a:active, #yiv2519791711 div.yiv2519791711file-title a:hover, #yiv2519791711 div.yiv2519791711file-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv2519791711 div.yiv2519791711photo-title a, #yiv2519791711 div.yiv2519791711photo-title a:active, #yiv2519791711 div.yiv2519791711photo-title a:hover, #yiv2519791711 div.yiv2519791711photo-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv2519791711 div#yiv2519791711ygrp-mlmsg #yiv2519791711ygrp-msg p a span.yiv2519791711yshortcuts {font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;font-weight:normal;}#yiv2519791711 .yiv2519791711green {color:#628c2a;}#yiv2519791711 .yiv2519791711MsoNormal {margin:0 0 0 0;}#yiv2519791711 o {font-size:0;}#yiv2519791711 #yiv2519791711photos div {float:left;width:72px;}#yiv2519791711 #yiv2519791711photos div div {border:1px solid #666666;min-height:62px;overflow:hidden;width:62px;}#yiv2519791711 #yiv2519791711photos div label {color:#666666;font-size:10px;overflow:hidden;text-align:center;white-space:nowrap;width:64px;}#yiv2519791711 #yiv2519791711reco-category {font-size:77%;}#yiv2519791711 #yiv2519791711reco-desc {font-size:77%;}#yiv2519791711 .yiv2519791711replbq {margin:4px;}#yiv2519791711 #yiv2519791711ygrp-actbar div a:first-child {margin-right:2px;padding-right:5px;}#yiv2519791711 #yiv2519791711ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px;font-family:Arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;}#yiv2519791711 #yiv2519791711ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit;font:100%;}#yiv2519791711 #yiv2519791711ygrp-mlmsg select, #yiv2519791711 input, #yiv2519791711 textarea {font:99% Arial, Helvetica, clean, sans-serif;}#yiv2519791711 #yiv2519791711ygrp-mlmsg pre, #yiv2519791711 code {font:115% monospace;}#yiv2519791711 #yiv2519791711ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height:1.22em;}#yiv2519791711 #yiv2519791711ygrp-mlmsg #yiv2519791711logo {padding-bottom:10px;}#yiv2519791711 #yiv2519791711ygrp-msg p a {font-family:Verdana;}#yiv2519791711 #yiv2519791711ygrp-msg p#yiv2519791711attach-count span {color:#1E66AE;font-weight:700;}#yiv2519791711 #yiv2519791711ygrp-reco #yiv2519791711reco-head {color:#ff7900;font-weight:700;}#yiv2519791711 #yiv2519791711ygrp-reco {margin-bottom:20px;padding:0px;}#yiv2519791711 #yiv2519791711ygrp-sponsor #yiv2519791711ov li a {font-size:130%;text-decoration:none;}#yiv2519791711 #yiv2519791711ygrp-sponsor #yiv2519791711ov li {font-size:77%;list-style-type:square;padding:6px 0;}#yiv2519791711 #yiv2519791711ygrp-sponsor #yiv2519791711ov ul {margin:0;padding:0 0 0 8px;}#yiv2519791711 #yiv2519791711ygrp-text {font-family:Georgia;}#yiv2519791711 #yiv2519791711ygrp-text p {margin:0 0 1em 0;}#yiv2519791711 #yiv2519791711ygrp-text tt {font-size:120%;}#yiv2519791711 #yiv2519791711ygrp-vital ul li:last-child {border-right:none !important;}#yiv2519791711

Norm,

When you mentioned switching your X-ray and box of flybacks to
investigate Tesla fire what form of mechanical impulse switching did you
use, were you able to configure the Tesla receiver as an impulse
transmitting switch or something else like a motorized gap?

The other day I cooked my nice decoupled sand circuits and will be
moving to hollow state, this energy just chews up the silicon as soon as
the proper pulse is created which is tricky.  Luckily I have some nice
new old stock hydrogen thyratrons.  There seems to be a regular echo
return that is about even with the pulse in and then another type that
is more elusive more powerful and far more destructive to the sand state
stuff.


On 7/16/2018 6:55 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> Classic Hector coil banging and My Neutral Spike experiment rolled
> into one  Also Tesla original 1899 revelation regarding his Telegraphy
> experiments.
>
>
> On 7/16/2018 8:36 AM, Warren Keillor [email protected]
> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>  
>>
>> Hi Darrell
>>
>> He seems to be doing a very pragmatic series of experiments with
>> nicely presented apparatus
>> I think we can use his data as trustworthy
>> Cheers Warren
>>
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>>
>>     On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 at 7:32 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]
>>     <[email protected]> wrote:
>>      
>>     Any opinions?
>>
>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yhl5kc7ddck
>>
>>
>
>

Hi Mick
You wrote:
"There seems to be a regular echo return that is about even with the pulse in and then another type that is more elusive more powerful and far more destructive to the sand state stuff."

This what I found with pulsed dc flyback and backemf recovery circuits....something big is going on with same pulse width as primary, but delayed in time as like echo ( about 5 degrees delay you have to experiment to find it perfect)

This the exact time and pulse width to extract power and do it in reverse polarity as primary (should be anyways since belief is fly back mixed using time with backemf opposin9g firce)

Fill big cap at this time after rectifying...might help might confuse and distract don't worry just my two cents.
Kone

Kone,

I am working with the ground return so there is the extra energy not
just from the additional in the coil collapse but from the neutral spike
Norm is on to.  It is elusive because it requires a solid negative pulse
for that huge power return strike just like lighting.  With positive
lightening there is no return strike.  The return mucks up everything
silicon so no wonder it has been completely engineered around.  It's
difficult to get solid negative with high voltage as the oscillations
provide as you know the counter field so the proper neg polarity to
input of a coil doesn't cut it but is a good start.  This is why Tesla
was using magnetic to fraction out the negative traveling wave which is
what he referred to as radiant.  I am sure certain materials also
contribute to a more pure charge one way or the other just like with
static charges.  We just have to learn to use the proper materials in
our coils for the expected outcomes.

http://wxbrad.com/positive-lightning-why-its-so-dangerous/




On 7/16/2018 11:20 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> Hi Mick
> You wrote:
> "There seems to be a regular echo return that is about even with the
> pulse in and then another type that is more elusive more powerful and
> far more destructive to the sand state stuff."
>
> This what I found with pulsed dc flyback and backemf recovery
> circuits....something big is going on with same pulse width as
> primary, but delayed in time as like echo ( about 5 degrees delay you
> have to experiment to find it perfect)
>
> This the exact time and pulse width to extract power and do it in
> reverse polarity as primary (should be anyways since belief is fly
> back mixed using time with backemf opposin9g firce)
>
> Fill big cap at this time after rectifying...might help might confuse
> and distract don't worry just my two cents.
> Kone
>
>

Switching HVDC (X-ray power supply) loaded caps to give the 
unidirectional pulses is tricky. I used a special long throw DC relay 
actuated via an insulated lever arangement to give a pulse train of DC 
shots!  Phil & Bert used air blown gaps to discharge their Z pinch 
apparatus (30KVDC , 25 killojouls). Tricky stuff.  Your Hydrogen 
thyatrons do a cleaner job!


On 7/16/2018 5:42 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Norm,
>
> When you mentioned switching your X-ray and box of flybacks to 
> investigate Tesla fire what form of mechanical impulse switching did 
> you use, were you able to configure the Tesla receiver as an impulse 
> transmitting switch or something else like a motorized gap?
>
> The other day I cooked my nice decoupled sand circuits and will be 
> moving to hollow state, this energy just chews up the silicon as soon 
> as the proper pulse is created which is tricky.  Luckily I have some 
> nice new old stock hydrogen thyratrons.  There seems to be a regular 
> echo return that is about even with the pulse in and then another type 
> that is more elusive more powerful and far more destructive to the 
> sand state stuff.
>
>
> On 7/16/2018 6:55 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>> Classic Hector coil banging and My Neutral Spike experiment rolled 
>> into one  Also Tesla original 1899 revelation regarding his 
>> Telegraphy experiments.
>>
>>
>> On 7/16/2018 8:36 AM, Warren Keillor [email protected] 
>> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Darrell
>>>
>>> He seems to be doing a very pragmatic series of experiments with 
>>> nicely presented apparatus
>>> I think we can use his data as trustworthy
>>> Cheers Warren
>>>
>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
>>> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>>>
>>>     On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 at 7:32 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]
>>>     <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>     Any opinions?
>>>
>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yhl5kc7ddck
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

Thanks! Mick & Kone, for now you are getting the picture of Neutral 
Spike and how difficult it is to capture it!


On 7/17/2018 9:54 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Kone,
>
> I am working with the ground return so there is the extra energy not 
> just from the additional in the coil collapse but from the neutral 
> spike Norm is on to.  It is elusive because it requires a solid 
> negative pulse for that huge power return strike just like lighting.  
> With positive lightening there is no return strike.  The return mucks 
> up everything silicon so no wonder it has been completely engineered 
> around.  It's difficult to get solid negative with high voltage as the 
> oscillations provide as you know the counter field so the proper neg 
> polarity to input of a coil doesn't cut it but is a good start.  This 
> is why Tesla was using magnetic to fraction out the negative traveling 
> wave which is what he referred to as radiant.  I am sure certain 
> materials also contribute to a more pure charge one way or the other 
> just like with static charges.  We just have to learn to use the 
> proper materials in our coils for the expected outcomes.
>
> http://wxbrad.com/positive-lightning-why-its-so-dangerous/
>
>
>
>
> On 7/16/2018 11:20 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>> Hi Mick
>> You wrote:
>> "There seems to be a regular echo return that is about even with the 
>> pulse in and then another type that is more elusive more powerful and 
>> far more destructive to the sand state stuff."
>>
>> This what I found with pulsed dc flyback and backemf recovery 
>> circuits....something big is going on with same pulse width as 
>> primary, but delayed in time as like echo ( about 5 degrees delay you 
>> have to experiment to find it perfect)
>>
>> This the exact time and pulse width to extract power and do it in 
>> reverse polarity as primary (should be anyways since belief is fly 
>> back mixed using time with backemf opposin9g firce)
>>
>> Fill big cap at this time after rectifying...might help might confuse 
>> and distract don't worry just my two cents.
>> Kone
>>
>
>

BTW!  Tesla's magnetic horn gap was best method the eliminate any ring 
in the DC (negative)  shots that make the longitudunal wave (radiant 
energy). Remember in my experiment with the Tesla Fire, I had reversed 
my HVDC power supply diodes so to output cathode (negative) output.  
X-ray tubes use anode (positive) supply.


On 7/18/2018 9:37 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>
> Thanks! Mick & Kone, for now you are getting the picture of Neutral 
> Spike and how difficult it is to capture it!
>
>
> On 7/17/2018 9:54 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>> Kone,
>>
>> I am working with the ground return so there is the extra energy not 
>> just from the additional in the coil collapse but from the neutral 
>> spike Norm is on to.  It is elusive because it requires a solid 
>> negative pulse for that huge power return strike just like lighting. 
>> With positive lightening there is no return strike.  The return mucks 
>> up everything silicon so no wonder it has been completely engineered 
>> around.  It's difficult to get solid negative with high voltage as 
>> the oscillations provide as you know the counter field so the proper 
>> neg polarity to input of a coil doesn't cut it but is a good start.  
>> This is why Tesla was using magnetic to fraction out the negative 
>> traveling wave which is what he referred to as radiant.  I am sure 
>> certain materials also contribute to a more pure charge one way or 
>> the other just like with static charges.  We just have to learn to 
>> use the proper materials in our coils for the expected outcomes.
>>
>> http://wxbrad.com/positive-lightning-why-its-so-dangerous/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 7/16/2018 11:20 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Mick
>>> You wrote:
>>> "There seems to be a regular echo return that is about even with the 
>>> pulse in and then another type that is more elusive more powerful 
>>> and far more destructive to the sand state stuff."
>>>
>>> This what I found with pulsed dc flyback and backemf recovery 
>>> circuits....something big is going on with same pulse width as 
>>> primary, but delayed in time as like echo ( about 5 degrees delay 
>>> you have to experiment to find it perfect)
>>>
>>> This the exact time and pulse width to extract power and do it in 
>>> reverse polarity as primary (should be anyways since belief is fly 
>>> back mixed using time with backemf opposin9g firce)
>>>
>>> Fill big cap at this time after rectifying...might help might 
>>> confuse and distract don't worry just my two cents.
>>> Kone
>>>
>>
>> 
>

Norm,

right, just feeding the L1 of a coil with the rectified negative does
not make it happen in a sustained manner so we do need something else. 
I speculate the magnetic quench is one answer which you proved.  Do you
know which Tesla patent or drawing has the horn gap magnet?

These things are elusive then when they show up all the gear gets
toasted so their appearance is bittersweet so far.

I have not determined if for my experiments an all in one approach is
better or rather to separate the transmitter and receiver like the
Magnifying transmitter, in other words two separate grounds or a single one.

Also have not yet defined the concept of the magnetostrictive material
in a flux circuit with a perm magnet for energy harvest, do you know
about this?

It would be nice if these thyratrons could support higher frequencies
but the pulse width is much more important anyways and for this they are
fast and clean.


On 7/18/2018 7:42 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> BTW!  Tesla's magnetic horn gap was best method the eliminate any ring
> in the DC (negative)  shots that make the longitudunal wave (radiant
> energy). Remember in my experiment with the Tesla Fire, I had reversed
> my HVDC power supply diodes so to output cathode (negative) output. 
> X-ray tubes use anode (positive) supply.
>
>
> On 7/18/2018 9:37 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>
>> Thanks! Mick & Kone, for now you are getting the picture of Neutral
>> Spike and how difficult it is to capture it!
>>
>>
>> On 7/17/2018 9:54 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>  
>>>
>>> Kone,
>>>
>>> I am working with the ground return so there is the extra energy not
>>> just from the additional in the coil collapse but from the neutral
>>> spike Norm is on to.  It is elusive because it requires a solid
>>> negative pulse for that huge power return strike just like
>>> lighting.  With positive lightening there is no return strike.  The
>>> return mucks up everything silicon so no wonder it has been
>>> completely engineered around.  It's difficult to get solid negative
>>> with high voltage as the oscillations provide as you know the
>>> counter field so the proper neg polarity to input of a coil doesn't
>>> cut it but is a good start.  This is why Tesla was using magnetic to
>>> fraction out the negative traveling wave which is what he referred
>>> to as radiant.  I am sure certain materials also contribute to a
>>> more pure charge one way or the other just like with static
>>> charges.  We just have to learn to use the proper materials in our
>>> coils for the expected outcomes.
>>>
>>> http://wxbrad.com/positive-lightning-why-its-so-dangerous/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/16/2018 11:20 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> Hi Mick
>>>> You wrote:
>>>> "There seems to be a regular echo return that is about even with
>>>> the pulse in and then another type that is more elusive more
>>>> powerful and far more destructive to the sand state stuff."
>>>>
>>>> This what I found with pulsed dc flyback and backemf recovery
>>>> circuits....something big is going on with same pulse width as
>>>> primary, but delayed in time as like echo ( about 5 degrees delay
>>>> you have to experiment to find it perfect)
>>>>
>>>> This the exact time and pulse width to extract power and do it in
>>>> reverse polarity as primary (should be anyways since belief is fly
>>>> back mixed using time with backemf opposin9g firce)
>>>>
>>>> Fill big cap at this time after rectifying...might help might
>>>> confuse and distract don't worry just my two cents.
>>>> Kone
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

Hector,

Yes this is your claim but for whatever reason none of the people here
who tried did succeed and without more data success unlikely.  I can
speak personally and not for lack of trying with multiple coils,
multiple core types, multiple strobe drivers and multiple types of
diodes.  Not sure what other iteration to attempt.  I don't doubt that
you have made such a thing but have given it quite the industrial
attempt and failed to achieve.


On 7/19/2018 5:06 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
>
> coil banger , xenon strobe light , poor mans thyratron all you need
> are the right values and coil design and it keeps flashing forever .....
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --In [email protected], <mkjekyll@...> wrote :
>
>  Norm,
>
> right, just feeding the L1 of a coil with the rectified negative does
> not make it happen in a sustained manner so we do need something
> else.  I speculate the magnetic quench is one answer which you
> proved.  Do you know which Tesla patent or drawing has the horn gap
> magnet?
>
> These things are elusive then when they show up all the gear gets
> toasted so their appearance is bittersweet so far.
>
> I have not determined if for my experiments an all in one approach is
> better or rather to separate the transmitter and receiver like the
> Magnifying transmitter, in other words two separate grounds or a
> single one.
>
> Also have not yet defined the concept of the magnetostrictive material
> in a flux circuit with a perm magnet for energy harvest, do you know
> about this?
>
> It would be nice if these thyratrons could support higher frequencies
> but the pulse width is much more important anyways and for this they
> are fast and clean.
>
>
> On 7/18/2018 7:42 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... <mailto:nwootan@...>
> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
>>      
>>
>>     BTW!  Tesla's magnetic horn gap was best method the eliminate any
>>     ring in the DC (negative)  shots that make the longitudunal wave
>>     (radiant energy). Remember in my experiment with the Tesla Fire,
>>     I had reversed my HVDC power supply diodes so to output cathode
>>     (negative) output.  X-ray tubes use anode (positive) supply.
>>
>>
>>     On 7/18/2018 9:37 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>
>>>     Thanks! Mick & Kone, for now you are getting the picture of
>>>     Neutral Spike and how difficult it is to capture it!
>>>
>>>
>>>     On 7/17/2018 9:54 AM, Mick mkjekyll@... <mailto:mkjekyll@...>
>>>     [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>      
>>>>
>>>>     Kone,
>>>>
>>>>     I am working with the ground return so there is the extra
>>>>     energy not just from the additional in the coil collapse but
>>>>     from the neutral spike Norm is on to.  It is elusive because it
>>>>     requires a solid negative pulse for that huge power return
>>>>     strike just like lighting.  With positive lightening there is
>>>>     no return strike.  The return mucks up everything silicon so no
>>>>     wonder it has been completely engineered around.  It's
>>>>     difficult to get solid negative with high voltage as the
>>>>     oscillations provide as you know the counter field so the
>>>>     proper neg polarity to input of a coil doesn't cut it but is a
>>>>     good start.  This is why Tesla was using magnetic to fraction
>>>>     out the negative traveling wave which is what he referred to as
>>>>     radiant.  I am sure certain materials also contribute to a more
>>>>     pure charge one way or the other just like with static
>>>>     charges.  We just have to learn to use the proper materials in
>>>>     our coils for the expected outcomes.
>>>>
>>>>     http://wxbrad.com/positive-lightning-why-its-so-dangerous/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     On 7/16/2018 11:20 PM, konehead@... <mailto:konehead@...>
>>>>     [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>      
>>>>>
>>>>>     Hi Mick
>>>>>     You wrote:
>>>>>     "There seems to be a regular echo return that is about even
>>>>>     with the pulse in and then another type that is more elusive
>>>>>     more powerful and far more destructive to the sand state stuff."
>>>>>
>>>>>     This what I found with pulsed dc flyback and backemf recovery
>>>>>     circuits....something big is going on with same pulse width as
>>>>>     primary, but delayed in time as like echo ( about 5 degrees
>>>>>     delay you have to experiment to find it perfect)
>>>>>
>>>>>     This the exact time and pulse width to extract power and do it
>>>>>     in reverse polarity as primary (should be anyways since belief
>>>>>     is fly back mixed using time with backemf opposin9g firce)
>>>>>
>>>>>     Fill big cap at this time after rectifying...might help might
>>>>>     confuse and distract don't worry just my two cents.
>>>>>     Kone
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

coil banger , xenon strobe light , poor mans thyratron all you need are the right values and coil design and it keeps flashing forever .....







--In [email protected], <mkjekyll@...> wrote :

  Norm,
 right, just feeding the L1 of a coil with the rectified negative does not make it happen in a sustained manner so we do need something else.  I speculate the magnetic quench is one answer which you proved.  Do you know which Tesla patent or drawing has the horn gap magnet?
 These things are elusive then when they show up all the gear gets toasted so their appearance is bittersweet so far.
 I have not determined if for my experiments an all in one approach is better or rather to separate the transmitter and receiver like the Magnifying transmitter, in other words two separate grounds or a single one.
 Also have not yet defined the concept of the magnetostrictive material in a flux circuit with a perm magnet for energy harvest, do you know about this?
 It would be nice if these thyratrons could support higher frequencies but the pulse width is much more important anyways and for this they are fast and clean. 

 
 On 7/18/2018 7:42 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... mailto:nwootan@... [EVGRAY] wrote:

   
 BTW!  Tesla's magnetic horn gap was best method the eliminate any ring in the DC (negative)  shots that make the longitudunal wave (radiant energy). Remember in my experiment with the Tesla Fire, I had reversed my HVDC power supply diodes so to output cathode (negative) output.  X-ray tubes use anode (positive) supply.

 
 On 7/18/2018 9:37 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:

 Thanks! Mick & Kone, for now you are getting the picture of Neutral Spike and how difficult it is to capture it!

 
 On 7/17/2018 9:54 AM, Mick mkjekyll@... mailto:mkjekyll@... [EVGRAY] wrote:

   
 Kone,
 I am working with the ground return so there is the extra energy not just from the additional in the coil collapse but from the neutral spike Norm is on to.  It is elusive because it requires a solid negative pulse for that huge power return strike just like lighting.  With positive lightening there is no return strike.  The return mucks up everything silicon so no wonder it has been completely engineered around.  It's difficult to get solid negative with high voltage as the oscillations provide as you know the counter field so the proper neg polarity to input of a coil doesn't cut it but is a good start.  This is why Tesla was using magnetic to fraction out the negative traveling wave which is what he referred to as radiant.  I am sure certain materials also contribute to a more pure charge one way or the other just like with static charges.  We just have to learn to use the proper materials in our coils for the expected outcomes.

 http://wxbrad.com/positive-lightning-why-its-so-dangerous/ http://wxbrad.com/positive-lightning-why-its-so-dangerous/
 

 

 
 On 7/16/2018 11:20 PM, konehead@... mailto:konehead@... [EVGRAY] wrote:

   Hi Mick
 You wrote:
 "There seems to be a regular echo return that is about even with the pulse in and then another type that is more elusive more powerful and far more destructive to the sand state stuff."
 
 This what I found with pulsed dc flyback and backemf recovery circuits....something big is going on with same pulse width as primary, but delayed in time as like echo ( about 5 degrees delay you have to experiment to find it perfect)
 
 This the exact time and pulse width to extract power and do it in reverse polarity as primary (should be anyways since belief is fly back mixed using time with backemf opposin9g firce)
 
 Fill big cap at this time after rectifying...might help might confuse and distract don't worry just my two cents.
 Kone

That's really going to piss off the firefly's .
On Jul 19, 2018 7:06 PM, "[email protected] [EVGRAY]" <
[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
>
> coil banger , xenon strobe light , poor mans thyratron all you need are
> the right values and coil design and it keeps flashing forever .....
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --In [email protected], <mkjekyll@...> wrote :
>
>  Norm,
>
> right, just feeding the L1 of a coil with the rectified negative does not
> make it happen in a sustained manner so we do need something else.  I
> speculate the magnetic quench is one answer which you proved.  Do you know
> which Tesla patent or drawing has the horn gap magnet?
>
> These things are elusive then when they show up all the gear gets toasted
> so their appearance is bittersweet so far.
>
> I have not determined if for my experiments an all in one approach is
> better or rather to separate the transmitter and receiver like the
> Magnifying transmitter, in other words two separate grounds or a single one.
>
> Also have not yet defined the concept of the magnetostrictive material in
> a flux circuit with a perm magnet for energy harvest, do you know about
> this?
>
> It would be nice if these thyratrons could support higher frequencies but
> the pulse width is much more important anyways and for this they are fast
> and clean.
>
> On 7/18/2018 7:42 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
>
>
> BTW!  Tesla's magnetic horn gap was best method the eliminate any ring in
> the DC (negative)  shots that make the longitudunal wave (radiant energy).
> Remember in my experiment with the Tesla Fire, I had reversed my HVDC power
> supply diodes so to output cathode (negative) output.  X-ray tubes use
> anode (positive) supply.
>
> On 7/18/2018 9:37 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>
> Thanks! Mick & Kone, for now you are getting the picture of Neutral Spike
> and how difficult it is to capture it!
>
> On 7/17/2018 9:54 AM, Mick mkjekyll@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
>
>
> Kone,
>
> I am working with the ground return so there is the extra energy not just
> from the additional in the coil collapse but from the neutral spike Norm is
> on to.  It is elusive because it requires a solid negative pulse for that
> huge power return strike just like lighting.  With positive lightening
> there is no return strike.  The return mucks up everything silicon so no
> wonder it has been completely engineered around.  It's difficult to get
> solid negative with high voltage as the oscillations provide as you know
> the counter field so the proper neg polarity to input of a coil doesn't cut
> it but is a good start.  This is why Tesla was using magnetic to fraction
> out the negative traveling wave which is what he referred to as radiant.  I
> am sure certain materials also contribute to a more pure charge one way or
> the other just like with static charges.  We just have to learn to use the
> proper materials in our coils for the expected outcomes.
>
> http://wxbrad.com/positive-lightning-why-its-so-dangerous/
>
>
>
>
> On 7/16/2018 11:20 PM, konehead@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi Mick
> You wrote:
> "There seems to be a regular echo return that is about even with the pulse
> in and then another type that is more elusive more powerful and far more
> destructive to the sand state stuff."
>
> This what I found with pulsed dc flyback and backemf recovery
> circuits....something big is going on with same pulse width as primary, but
> delayed in time as like echo ( about 5 degrees delay you have to experiment
> to find it perfect)
>
> This the exact time and pulse width to extract power and do it in reverse
> polarity as primary (should be anyways since belief is fly back mixed using
> time with backemf opposin9g firce)
>
> Fill big cap at this time after rectifying...might help might confuse and
> distract don't worry just my two cents.
> Kone
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>

Norm,

Based on my wireless power experiments  which are over unity the key
seems to be a FM or Phase modulation in the tank that acts like a
longitudinal pump and this is also what ferroresonance looks like in a
transformer when the frequency begins to also modulate.  I am sure this
energy is missed all the time because the autotriggering of a scope
masks it as the sine begins to shake back and forth.  Easier to see on a
spec anal.  As Hector said 4g carries 16 times the information spectral
bandwidth which is the same as energy multiplication right?  Just adjust
the carrier phase so the energy goes in the right direction.

Likely I have just not found a fricken proper core for Hector's
strobobanger experiment if indeed he gave full disclosure with his
circuit.  Really would love to see that but have limited time to
volunteer for experiments that do not work.


On 7/20/2018 6:59 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> As Hector pointed out, we need to establish a sustaned ferroresonant
> condition at the new targeted frequency (X-L = X-C) in the LC tank!
> Look at the photo evidence of ferroresonant targeted conditions. There
> has been documented 10X multiplication of both voltages and current
> under these targeted conditions. Now your task (if you accept) is to
> figure out how to capture the energy in a sustained ferroresonant
> condition!  The is a Magneto-Electric EMP like event, only a little
> more tame.
>
> https://aktif.net/en/Aktif-Blog/Technical-Articles/Ferroresonance
>
> http://actaenergetica.org/article/en/ferroresonance-phenomenon-in-power-plant-auxiliary-grids.html?tab=article
>
> These are the conditions that Hector is talking about with his strobe banger circuit.  Sustained resonant conditions. My neutral Spike experiments were of a single shot nature and so destructive that I did not try to create a sustained train of the EMP events.  Once you see the effects of the EMP event you too would be a little gun shy.  All of the often talked about effects of cold electricity.
>
> On 7/19/2018 11:41 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>  
>>
>> Hector,
>>
>> Yes this is your claim but for whatever reason none of the people
>> here who tried did succeed and without more data success unlikely.  I
>> can speak personally and not for lack of trying with multiple coils,
>> multiple core types, multiple strobe drivers and multiple types of
>> diodes.  Not sure what other iteration to attempt.  I don't doubt
>> that you have made such a thing but have given it quite the
>> industrial attempt and failed to achieve.
>>
>>
>> On 7/19/2018 5:06 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>  
>>>
>>>
>>> coil banger , xenon strobe light , poor mans thyratron all you need
>>> are the right values and coil design and it keeps flashing forever .....
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --In [email protected], <mkjekyll@...> wrote :
>>>
>>>  Norm,
>>>
>>> right, just feeding the L1 of a coil with the rectified negative
>>> does not make it happen in a sustained manner so we do need
>>> something else.  I speculate the magnetic quench is one answer which
>>> you proved.  Do you know which Tesla patent or drawing has the horn
>>> gap magnet?
>>>
>>> These things are elusive then when they show up all the gear gets
>>> toasted so their appearance is bittersweet so far.
>>>
>>> I have not determined if for my experiments an all in one approach
>>> is better or rather to separate the transmitter and receiver like
>>> the Magnifying transmitter, in other words two separate grounds or a
>>> single one.
>>>
>>> Also have not yet defined the concept of the magnetostrictive
>>> material in a flux circuit with a perm magnet for energy harvest, do
>>> you know about this?
>>>
>>> It would be nice if these thyratrons could support higher
>>> frequencies but the pulse width is much more important anyways and
>>> for this they are fast and clean.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/18/2018 7:42 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... <mailto:nwootan@...>
>>> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>>>      
>>>>
>>>>     BTW!  Tesla's magnetic horn gap was best method the eliminate
>>>>     any ring in the DC (negative)  shots that make the longitudunal
>>>>     wave (radiant energy). Remember in my experiment with the Tesla
>>>>     Fire, I had reversed my HVDC power supply diodes so to output
>>>>     cathode (negative) output.  X-ray tubes use anode (positive)
>>>>     supply.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     On 7/18/2018 9:37 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>     Thanks! Mick & Kone, for now you are getting the picture of
>>>>>     Neutral Spike and how difficult it is to capture it!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     On 7/17/2018 9:54 AM, Mick mkjekyll@... <mailto:mkjekyll@...>
>>>>>     [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>      
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Kone,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     I am working with the ground return so there is the extra
>>>>>>     energy not just from the additional in the coil collapse but
>>>>>>     from the neutral spike Norm is on to.  It is elusive because
>>>>>>     it requires a solid negative pulse for that huge power return
>>>>>>     strike just like lighting.  With positive lightening there is
>>>>>>     no return strike.  The return mucks up everything silicon so
>>>>>>     no wonder it has been completely engineered around.  It's
>>>>>>     difficult to get solid negative with high voltage as the
>>>>>>     oscillations provide as you know the counter field so the
>>>>>>     proper neg polarity to input of a coil doesn't cut it but is
>>>>>>     a good start.  This is why Tesla was using magnetic to
>>>>>>     fraction out the negative traveling wave which is what he
>>>>>>     referred to as radiant.  I am sure certain materials also
>>>>>>     contribute to a more pure charge one way or the other just
>>>>>>     like with static charges.  We just have to learn to use the
>>>>>>     proper materials in our coils for the expected outcomes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     http://wxbrad.com/positive-lightning-why-its-so-dangerous/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     On 7/16/2018 11:20 PM, konehead@... <mailto:konehead@...>
>>>>>>     [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Hi Mick
>>>>>>>     You wrote:
>>>>>>>     "There seems to be a regular echo return that is about even
>>>>>>>     with the pulse in and then another type that is more elusive
>>>>>>>     more powerful and far more destructive to the sand state stuff."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     This what I found with pulsed dc flyback and backemf
>>>>>>>     recovery circuits....something big is going on with same
>>>>>>>     pulse width as primary, but delayed in time as like echo (
>>>>>>>     about 5 degrees delay you have to experiment to find it perfect)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     This the exact time and pulse width to extract power and do
>>>>>>>     it in reverse polarity as primary (should be anyways since
>>>>>>>     belief is fly back mixed using time with backemf opposin9g
>>>>>>>     firce)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Fill big cap at this time after rectifying...might help
>>>>>>>     might confuse and distract don't worry just my two cents.
>>>>>>>     Kone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

As Hector pointed out, we need to establish a sustaned ferroresonant 
condition at the new targeted frequency (X-L = X-C) in the LC tank! Look 
at the photo evidence of ferroresonant targeted conditions. There has 
been documented 10X multiplication of both voltages and current under 
these targeted conditions. Now your task (if you accept) is to figure 
out how to capture the energy in a sustained ferroresonant condition!  
The is a Magneto-Electric EMP like event, only a little more tame.

https://aktif.net/en/Aktif-Blog/Technical-Articles/Ferroresonance

http://actaenergetica.org/article/en/ferroresonance-phenomenon-in-power-plant-auxiliary-grids.html?tab=article

These are the conditions that Hector is talking about with his strobe banger circuit.  Sustained resonant conditions. My neutral Spike experiments were of a single shot nature and so destructive that I did not try to create a sustained train of the EMP events.  Once you see the effects of the EMP event you too would be a little gun shy.  All of the often talked about effects of cold electricity.


On 7/19/2018 11:41 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Hector,
>
> Yes this is your claim but for whatever reason none of the people here 
> who tried did succeed and without more data success unlikely.  I can 
> speak personally and not for lack of trying with multiple coils, 
> multiple core types, multiple strobe drivers and multiple types of 
> diodes.  Not sure what other iteration to attempt.  I don't doubt that 
> you have made such a thing but have given it quite the industrial 
> attempt and failed to achieve.
>
>
> On 7/19/2018 5:06 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>>
>> coil banger , xenon strobe light , poor mans thyratron all you need 
>> are the right values and coil design and it keeps flashing forever .....
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --In [email protected], <mkjekyll@...> wrote :
>>
>>  Norm,
>>
>> right, just feeding the L1 of a coil with the rectified negative does 
>> not make it happen in a sustained manner so we do need something 
>> else.  I speculate the magnetic quench is one answer which you 
>> proved.  Do you know which Tesla patent or drawing has the horn gap 
>> magnet?
>>
>> These things are elusive then when they show up all the gear gets 
>> toasted so their appearance is bittersweet so far.
>>
>> I have not determined if for my experiments an all in one approach is 
>> better or rather to separate the transmitter and receiver like the 
>> Magnifying transmitter, in other words two separate grounds or a 
>> single one.
>>
>> Also have not yet defined the concept of the magnetostrictive 
>> material in a flux circuit with a perm magnet for energy harvest, do 
>> you know about this?
>>
>> It would be nice if these thyratrons could support higher frequencies 
>> but the pulse width is much more important anyways and for this they 
>> are fast and clean.
>>
>>
>> On 7/18/2018 7:42 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... <mailto:nwootan@...> 
>> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>>>     BTW!  Tesla's magnetic horn gap was best method the eliminate
>>>     any ring in the DC (negative)  shots that make the longitudunal
>>>     wave (radiant energy). Remember in my experiment with the Tesla
>>>     Fire, I had reversed my HVDC power supply diodes so to output
>>>     cathode (negative) output.  X-ray tubes use anode (positive) supply.
>>>
>>>
>>>     On 7/18/2018 9:37 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     Thanks! Mick & Kone, for now you are getting the picture of
>>>>     Neutral Spike and how difficult it is to capture it!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     On 7/17/2018 9:54 AM, Mick mkjekyll@... <mailto:mkjekyll@...>
>>>>     [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>     Kone,
>>>>>
>>>>>     I am working with the ground return so there is the extra
>>>>>     energy not just from the additional in the coil collapse but
>>>>>     from the neutral spike Norm is on to.  It is elusive because
>>>>>     it requires a solid negative pulse for that huge power return
>>>>>     strike just like lighting.  With positive lightening there is
>>>>>     no return strike.  The return mucks up everything silicon so
>>>>>     no wonder it has been completely engineered around.  It's
>>>>>     difficult to get solid negative with high voltage as the
>>>>>     oscillations provide as you know the counter field so the
>>>>>     proper neg polarity to input of a coil doesn't cut it but is a
>>>>>     good start.  This is why Tesla was using magnetic to fraction
>>>>>     out the negative traveling wave which is what he referred to
>>>>>     as radiant.  I am sure certain materials also contribute to a
>>>>>     more pure charge one way or the other just like with static
>>>>>     charges.  We just have to learn to use the proper materials in
>>>>>     our coils for the expected outcomes.
>>>>>
>>>>>     http://wxbrad.com/positive-lightning-why-its-so-dangerous/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     On 7/16/2018 11:20 PM, konehead@... <mailto:konehead@...>
>>>>>     [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Hi Mick
>>>>>>     You wrote:
>>>>>>     "There seems to be a regular echo return that is about even
>>>>>>     with the pulse in and then another type that is more elusive
>>>>>>     more powerful and far more destructive to the sand state stuff."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     This what I found with pulsed dc flyback and backemf recovery
>>>>>>     circuits....something big is going on with same pulse width
>>>>>>     as primary, but delayed in time as like echo ( about 5
>>>>>>     degrees delay you have to experiment to find it perfect)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     This the exact time and pulse width to extract power and do
>>>>>>     it in reverse polarity as primary (should be anyways since
>>>>>>     belief is fly back mixed using time with backemf opposin9g firce)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Fill big cap at this time after rectifying...might help might
>>>>>>     confuse and distract don't worry just my two cents.
>>>>>>     Kone
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

the key is to create an EMP  under RESONANT condition   Reread genesis  
apply to coil banger  get ACCULA & Kapednaze apply to coil banger , GET 
MRA AND do a one shot MRA  coil banger . (Hector)


On 7/20/2018 8:59 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> As Hector pointed out, we need to establish a sustaned ferroresonant 
> condition at the new targeted frequency (X-L = X-C) in the LC tank! 
> Look at the photo evidence of ferroresonant targeted conditions. There 
> has been documented 10X multiplication of both voltages and current 
> under these targeted conditions. Now your task (if you accept) is to 
> figure out how to capture the energy in a sustained ferroresonant 
> condition!  The is a Magneto-Electric EMP like event, only a little 
> more tame.
>
> https://aktif.net/en/Aktif-Blog/Technical-Articles/Ferroresonance
>
> http://actaenergetica.org/article/en/ferroresonance-phenomenon-in-power-plant-auxiliary-grids.html?tab=article
>
> These are the conditions that Hector is talking about with his strobe banger circuit.  Sustained resonant conditions. My neutral Spike experiments were of a single shot nature and so destructive that I did not try to create a sustained train of the EMP events.  Once you see the effects of the EMP event you too would be a little gun shy.  All of the often talked about effects of cold electricity.
>
> On 7/19/2018 11:41 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>> Hector,
>>
>> Yes this is your claim but for whatever reason none of the people 
>> here who tried did succeed and without more data success unlikely.  I 
>> can speak personally and not for lack of trying with multiple coils, 
>> multiple core types, multiple strobe drivers and multiple types of 
>> diodes.  Not sure what other iteration to attempt.  I don't doubt 
>> that you have made such a thing but have given it quite the 
>> industrial attempt and failed to achieve.
>>
>>
>> On 7/19/2018 5:06 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> coil banger , xenon strobe light , poor mans thyratron all you need 
>>> are the right values and coil design and it keeps flashing forever .....
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --In [email protected], <mkjekyll@...> wrote :
>>>
>>>  Norm,
>>>
>>> right, just feeding the L1 of a coil with the rectified negative 
>>> does not make it happen in a sustained manner so we do need 
>>> something else.  I speculate the magnetic quench is one answer which 
>>> you proved.  Do you know which Tesla patent or drawing has the horn 
>>> gap magnet?
>>>
>>> These things are elusive then when they show up all the gear gets 
>>> toasted so their appearance is bittersweet so far.
>>>
>>> I have not determined if for my experiments an all in one approach 
>>> is better or rather to separate the transmitter and receiver like 
>>> the Magnifying transmitter, in other words two separate grounds or a 
>>> single one.
>>>
>>> Also have not yet defined the concept of the magnetostrictive 
>>> material in a flux circuit with a perm magnet for energy harvest, do 
>>> you know about this?
>>>
>>> It would be nice if these thyratrons could support higher 
>>> frequencies but the pulse width is much more important anyways and 
>>> for this they are fast and clean.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/18/2018 7:42 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... <mailto:nwootan@...> 
>>> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>>>     BTW!  Tesla's magnetic horn gap was best method the eliminate
>>>>     any ring in the DC (negative)  shots that make the longitudunal
>>>>     wave (radiant energy). Remember in my experiment with the Tesla
>>>>     Fire, I had reversed my HVDC power supply diodes so to output
>>>>     cathode (negative) output.  X-ray tubes use anode (positive)
>>>>     supply.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     On 7/18/2018 9:37 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>     Thanks! Mick & Kone, for now you are getting the picture of
>>>>>     Neutral Spike and how difficult it is to capture it!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     On 7/17/2018 9:54 AM, Mick mkjekyll@... <mailto:mkjekyll@...>
>>>>>     [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Kone,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     I am working with the ground return so there is the extra
>>>>>>     energy not just from the additional in the coil collapse but
>>>>>>     from the neutral spike Norm is on to.  It is elusive because
>>>>>>     it requires a solid negative pulse for that huge power return
>>>>>>     strike just like lighting.  With positive lightening there is
>>>>>>     no return strike.  The return mucks up everything silicon so
>>>>>>     no wonder it has been completely engineered around.  It's
>>>>>>     difficult to get solid negative with high voltage as the
>>>>>>     oscillations provide as you know the counter field so the
>>>>>>     proper neg polarity to input of a coil doesn't cut it but is
>>>>>>     a good start.  This is why Tesla was using magnetic to
>>>>>>     fraction out the negative traveling wave which is what he
>>>>>>     referred to as radiant.  I am sure certain materials also
>>>>>>     contribute to a more pure charge one way or the other just
>>>>>>     like with static charges.  We just have to learn to use the
>>>>>>     proper materials in our coils for the expected outcomes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     http://wxbrad.com/positive-lightning-why-its-so-dangerous/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     On 7/16/2018 11:20 PM, konehead@... <mailto:konehead@...>
>>>>>>     [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Hi Mick
>>>>>>>     You wrote:
>>>>>>>     "There seems to be a regular echo return that is about even
>>>>>>>     with the pulse in and then another type that is more elusive
>>>>>>>     more powerful and far more destructive to the sand state stuff."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     This what I found with pulsed dc flyback and backemf
>>>>>>>     recovery circuits....something big is going on with same
>>>>>>>     pulse width as primary, but delayed in time as like echo (
>>>>>>>     about 5 degrees delay you have to experiment to find it perfect)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     This the exact time and pulse width to extract power and do
>>>>>>>     it in reverse polarity as primary (should be anyways since
>>>>>>>     belief is fly back mixed using time with backemf opposin9g
>>>>>>>     firce)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Fill big cap at this time after rectifying...might help
>>>>>>>     might confuse and distract don't worry just my two cents.
>>>>>>>     Kone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

the key is to create an EMP  under RESONANT condition   Reread genesis  apply to coil banger  get ACCULA & Kapednaze apply to coil banger , GET MRA AND do a one shot MRA  coil banger ...

If you dont get OU you will not get OU with anything else as its the same NEUTRAL SPIKE thing Norman and my Person had being explaining 
for over 4 decades !  RV 3rd phase is OU and its a constant AC semy resonant AC rotary "neutral Spike "  if people understood that simple concept they may be much better now instead of trying to determine the sex of the turtle holding the 4 elephants supporting the flat earth disk ....



(H)

Sadly HectorIt is true. "Coil bangers for Idiots" has not yet been written.Not many have been able to duplicate this device based on the given instructions.Cheers Warren

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Fri, 20 Jul 2018 at 7:18 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
the key is to create an EMP  under RESONANT condition   Reread genesis  apply to coil banger  get ACCULA & Kapednaze apply to coil banger , GET MRA AND do a one shot MRA  coil banger ...

If you dont get OU you will not get OU with anything else as its the same NEUTRAL SPIKE thing Norman and my Person had being explaining 
for over 4 decades !  RV 3rd phase is OU and its a constant AC semy resonant AC rotary "neutral Spike "  if people understood that simple concept they may be much better now instead of trying to determine the sex of the turtle holding the 4 elephants supporting the flat earth disk ....



(H)
  #yiv8256473425 #yiv8256473425 -- #yiv8256473425ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv8256473425 #yiv8256473425ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv8256473425 #yiv8256473425ygrp-mkp #yiv8256473425hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv8256473425 #yiv8256473425ygrp-mkp #yiv8256473425ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv8256473425 #yiv8256473425ygrp-mkp .yiv8256473425ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv8256473425 #yiv8256473425ygrp-mkp .yiv8256473425ad p {margin:0;}#yiv8256473425 #yiv8256473425ygrp-mkp .yiv8256473425ad a {color:#0000ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv8256473425 #yiv8256473425ygrp-sponsor #yiv8256473425ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv8256473425 #yiv8256473425ygrp-sponsor #yiv8256473425ygrp-lc #yiv8256473425hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv8256473425 #yiv8256473425ygrp-sponsor #yiv8256473425ygrp-lc .yiv8256473425ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv8256473425 #yiv8256473425actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv8256473425 #yiv8256473425activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv8256473425 #yiv8256473425activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv8256473425 #yiv8256473425activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv8256473425 #yiv8256473425activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv8256473425 #yiv8256473425activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv8256473425 #yiv8256473425activity span .yiv8256473425underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv8256473425 .yiv8256473425attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;}#yiv8256473425 .yiv8256473425attach div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv8256473425 .yiv8256473425attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;}#yiv8256473425 .yiv8256473425attach label {display:block;margin-bottom:5px;}#yiv8256473425 .yiv8256473425attach label a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv8256473425 blockquote {margin:0 0 0 4px;}#yiv8256473425 .yiv8256473425bold {font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;}#yiv8256473425 .yiv8256473425bold a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv8256473425 dd.yiv8256473425last p a {font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv8256473425 dd.yiv8256473425last p span {margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv8256473425 dd.yiv8256473425last p span.yiv8256473425yshortcuts {margin-right:0;}#yiv8256473425 div.yiv8256473425attach-table div div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv8256473425 div.yiv8256473425attach-table {width:400px;}#yiv8256473425 div.yiv8256473425file-title a, #yiv8256473425 div.yiv8256473425file-title a:active, #yiv8256473425 div.yiv8256473425file-title a:hover, #yiv8256473425 div.yiv8256473425file-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv8256473425 div.yiv8256473425photo-title a, #yiv8256473425 div.yiv8256473425photo-title a:active, #yiv8256473425 div.yiv8256473425photo-title a:hover, #yiv8256473425 div.yiv8256473425photo-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv8256473425 div#yiv8256473425ygrp-mlmsg #yiv8256473425ygrp-msg p a span.yiv8256473425yshortcuts {font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;font-weight:normal;}#yiv8256473425 .yiv8256473425green {color:#628c2a;}#yiv8256473425 .yiv8256473425MsoNormal {margin:0 0 0 0;}#yiv8256473425 o {font-size:0;}#yiv8256473425 #yiv8256473425photos div {float:left;width:72px;}#yiv8256473425 #yiv8256473425photos div div {border:1px solid #666666;min-height:62px;overflow:hidden;width:62px;}#yiv8256473425 #yiv8256473425photos div label {color:#666666;font-size:10px;overflow:hidden;text-align:center;white-space:nowrap;width:64px;}#yiv8256473425 #yiv8256473425reco-category {font-size:77%;}#yiv8256473425 #yiv8256473425reco-desc {font-size:77%;}#yiv8256473425 .yiv8256473425replbq {margin:4px;}#yiv8256473425 #yiv8256473425ygrp-actbar div a:first-child {margin-right:2px;padding-right:5px;}#yiv8256473425 #yiv8256473425ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px;font-family:Arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;}#yiv8256473425 #yiv8256473425ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit;font:100%;}#yiv8256473425 #yiv8256473425ygrp-mlmsg select, #yiv8256473425 input, #yiv8256473425 textarea {font:99% Arial, Helvetica, clean, sans-serif;}#yiv8256473425 #yiv8256473425ygrp-mlmsg pre, #yiv8256473425 code {font:115% monospace;}#yiv8256473425 #yiv8256473425ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height:1.22em;}#yiv8256473425 #yiv8256473425ygrp-mlmsg #yiv8256473425logo {padding-bottom:10px;}#yiv8256473425 #yiv8256473425ygrp-msg p a {font-family:Verdana;}#yiv8256473425 #yiv8256473425ygrp-msg p#yiv8256473425attach-count span {color:#1E66AE;font-weight:700;}#yiv8256473425 #yiv8256473425ygrp-reco #yiv8256473425reco-head {color:#ff7900;font-weight:700;}#yiv8256473425 #yiv8256473425ygrp-reco {margin-bottom:20px;padding:0px;}#yiv8256473425 #yiv8256473425ygrp-sponsor #yiv8256473425ov li a {font-size:130%;text-decoration:none;}#yiv8256473425 #yiv8256473425ygrp-sponsor #yiv8256473425ov li {font-size:77%;list-style-type:square;padding:6px 0;}#yiv8256473425 #yiv8256473425ygrp-sponsor #yiv8256473425ov ul {margin:0;padding:0 0 0 8px;}#yiv8256473425 #yiv8256473425ygrp-text {font-family:Georgia;}#yiv8256473425 #yiv8256473425ygrp-text p {margin:0 0 1em 0;}#yiv8256473425 #yiv8256473425ygrp-text tt {font-size:120%;}#yiv8256473425 #yiv8256473425ygrp-vital ul li:last-child {border-right:none !important;}#yiv8256473425

Hector,

Perhaps materials and a ratio of weight of copper to core weight as the
core has to saturate properly assuming the same effect as the other
devices.  How about just the exact parts you used instead of fucking
breadcrumbs everywhere and vast generalizations of what to go read or
insinuating we are all cunts.  Asshole


On 7/22/2018 9:57 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> We need a simpler version. coil bangers for cunts V1.0 but i still
> haven't defined the FDS parameters in the formula yet!
>
>
>
> (H)
>
>
> ---In [email protected], <schoonersolsticemoon@...> wrote :
>
> Sadly Hector
> It is true. "Coil bangers for Idiots" has not yet been written.
> Not many have been able to duplicate this device based on the given
> instructions.
> Cheers Warren
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>
>         On Fri, 20 Jul 2018 at 7:18 AM, arkresearch@... [EVGRAY]
>         <[email protected]> wrote:
>          
>
>         the key is to create an EMP  under RESONANT condition   Reread
>         genesis  apply to coil banger  get ACCULA & Kapednaze apply to
>         coil banger , GET MRA AND do a one shot MRA  coil banger ...
>
>         If you dont get OU you will not get OU with anything else as
>         its the same NEUTRAL SPIKE thing Norman and my Person had
>         being explaining
>         for over 4 decades !  RV 3rd phase is OU and its a constant AC
>         semy resonant AC rotary "neutral Spike "  if people understood
>         that simple concept they may be much better now instead of
>         trying to determine the sex of the turtle holding the 4
>         elephants supporting the flat earth disk ....
>
>         alt
>
>         (H)
>
>