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Hello Ole,

ok the capacity of the transformer is the keyword it flows in over the earth?!? That would be free energy over ground potential ????

That would have to work with every other transformer, too, or is the extreme high impedance important, since the number of windings appears to add capacitively.

What and how should we proceed to get positive results. For me, everything speaks for the electric field that should be strengthened or based on it.

A ferroresonant transformer could also be used with low impedance winding and larger capacitors, but it is not made. The windings all have a very high inductance.

The Genesis Project is also based on sucking energy from the electric field with a negative inductor.

I did not really understand Ivor Catt. Only so much that we do not move electrons when current is flowing, as evidence that a capacitor discharges so fast almost at the speed of light and so-called free electrons can not move so fast in an electrical conductor. I've read a few links from Ivor Catt and scientists he relies on.
It's almost as if a capacitor is already a product for free energy in the broadest sense.

regards

Sven

Warren,

If one takes what Norm says to heart, which I don't know why one
wouldn't as he has a hand up on most of us, the issue on your Smith
device needs to be tuned to make a neutral spike and receive the ping
back.  Look up "lightening return strike"  Start with getting the spike
then tune for the proper phase to suck it back in.

First you have to be able to send the proper width and amplitude pulse
and then receive the echo from a well grounded rod.  Part one use a
battery to undertake this experiment as many bench supplies and such I
think cause problems with their grounding scheme interfering with this. 
Part Zero- don't forget the ground, even Don Smith said it would not
operate without a ground.  You can't get something for nothing plain
resonating is just that until it is taken to the point of such high Q
that it pumps a core like a laser then there are some nuclear resonant
points one can derive energy from.  On the other hand the neutral spike
sounds like a much easier way to source extra power.


On 4/11/2018 12:26 PM, Warren Keillor [email protected]
[EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> James
>
> You are correct about the high voltage pulses.
> I'm not sure what the mechanism is, but I have read it is better.
> Zilano seems to have written that it is possible to do a lower voltage
> version, that is less efficient.
> Of course, the real magic was done with a kv.system.
> I have yet to replicate Zilano's devices, with success.
> They seem to be easy to make, but a little short on hands on, idiot
> proof instructions, with ample feedback.
> We have to keeo trying
> Cheers Warren
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
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>
>     On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 12:42 PM, James Glinski
>     [email protected] [EVGRAY]
>     <[email protected]> wrote:
>      
>
>     Warren don't leave out the hi voltage power  needle pluses. That's
>     important .
>
>     On Apr 11, 2018 11:22 AM, "Warren Keillor
>     [email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]"
>     <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>          
>
>
>         Sven
>
>         You are going too fast for me.
>         Give some context to what you are referring to transformers.
>         You mentioned the Earth.
>         Transformers as I understand them, are able to capture
>         hertzian waves that can circulate through them as current.
>         I have been led to believe that two coils can resonate in
>         magnetic proximaty to each other avoiding Lenz's law,
>         providing the frequency is compatible to the wire length of
>         each other.
>         The coil length is very important, but can be very low
>         impedence fat wire, or even copper tubing making the helix, as
>         long as it is a harmonic of the other coil(s) sharing that
>         magnetic field so they resonate together.
>         Capacitors can be used to adjust the tuning, as can changing
>         the helix lengths so resonance can be achieved.
>         Losing lenz's law, yet transfering energy, is difficult, as we
>         all know, and each workable method is a treasure of a tool to
>         work with.
>         The trick, if it is a trick, is to have a nice big tool kit,
>         to design with.
>         Cheers Warren
>         Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
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>
>             On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 10:00 AM, [email protected]
>             <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
>             <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>             wrote:
>              
>
>             Hello Ole,
>
>             ok the capacity of the transformer is the keyword it flows
>             in over the earth?!? That would be free energy over ground
>             potential ????
>
>             That would have to work with every other transformer, too,
>             or is the extreme high impedance important, since the
>             number of windings appears to add capacitively.
>
>             What and how should we proceed to get positive results.
>             For me, everything speaks for the electric field that
>             should be strengthened or based on it.
>
>             A ferroresonant transformer could also be used with low
>             impedance winding and larger capacitors, but it is not
>             made. The windings all have a very high inductance.
>
>             The Genesis Project is also based on sucking energy from
>             the electric field with a negative inductor.
>
>             I did not really understand Ivor Catt. Only so much that
>             we do not move electrons when current is flowing, as
>             evidence that a capacitor discharges so fast almost at the
>             speed of light and so-called free electrons can not move
>             so fast in an electrical conductor. I've read a few links
>             from Ivor Catt and scientists he relies on.
>             It's almost as if a capacitor is already a product for
>             free energy in the broadest sense.
>
>             regards
>
>             Sven
>
>

SvenYou are going too fast for me.Give some context to what you are referring to transformers.You mentioned the Earth.Transformers as I understand them, are able to capture hertzian waves that can circulate through them as current.I have been led to believe that two coils can resonate in magnetic proximaty to each other avoiding Lenz's law, providing the frequency is compatible to the wire length of each other.The coil length is very important, but can be very low impedence fat wire, or even copper tubing making the helix, as long as it is a harmonic of the other coil(s) sharing that magnetic field so they resonate together.Capacitors can be used to adjust the tuning, as can changing the helix lengths so resonance can be achieved.Losing lenz's law, yet transfering energy, is difficult, as we all know, and each workable method is a treasure of a tool to work with.The trick, if it is a trick, is to have a nice big tool kit, to design with.Cheers Warren
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  On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 10:00 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
Hello Ole,

ok the capacity of the transformer is the keyword it flows in over the earth?!? That would be free energy over ground potential ????

That would have to work with every other transformer, too, or is the extreme high impedance important, since the number of windings appears to add capacitively.

What and how should we proceed to get positive results. For me, everything speaks for the electric field that should be strengthened or based on it.

A ferroresonant transformer could also be used with low impedance winding and larger capacitors, but it is not made. The windings all have a very high inductance.

The Genesis Project is also based on sucking energy from the electric field with a negative inductor.

I did not really understand Ivor Catt. Only so much that we do not move electrons when current is flowing, as evidence that a capacitor discharges so fast almost at the speed of light and so-called free electrons can not move so fast in an electrical conductor. I've read a few links from Ivor Catt and scientists he relies on.
It's almost as if a capacitor is already a product for free energy in the broadest sense.

regards

Sven
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Warren don't leave out the hi voltage power  needle pluses. That's
important .
On Apr 11, 2018 11:22 AM, "Warren Keillor [email protected]
[EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
>
> Sven
> You are going too fast for me.
> Give some context to what you are referring to transformers.
> You mentioned the Earth.
> Transformers as I understand them, are able to capture hertzian waves that
> can circulate through them as current.
> I have been led to believe that two coils can resonate in magnetic
> proximaty to each other avoiding Lenz's law, providing the frequency is
> compatible to the wire length of each other.
> The coil length is very important, but can be very low impedence fat wire,
> or even copper tubing making the helix, as long as it is a harmonic of the
> other coil(s) sharing that magnetic field so they resonate together.
> Capacitors can be used to adjust the tuning, as can changing the helix
> lengths so resonance can be achieved.
> Losing lenz's law, yet transfering energy, is difficult, as we all know,
> and each workable method is a treasure of a tool to work with.
> The trick, if it is a trick, is to have a nice big tool kit, to design
> with.
> Cheers Warren
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>
> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 10:00 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Hello Ole,
>
> ok the capacity of the transformer is the keyword it flows in over the
> earth?!? That would be free energy over ground potential ????
>
> That would have to work with every other transformer, too, or is the
> extreme high impedance important, since the number of windings appears to
> add capacitively.
>
> What and how should we proceed to get positive results. For me,
> everything speaks for the electric field that should be strengthened or
> based on it.
>
> A ferroresonant transformer could also be used with low impedance winding
> and larger capacitors, but it is not made. The windings all have a very
> high inductance.
>
> The Genesis Project is also based on sucking energy from the electric
> field with a negative inductor.
>
> I did not really understand Ivor Catt. Only so much that we do not move
> electrons when current is flowing, as evidence that a capacitor discharges
> so fast almost at the speed of light and so-called free electrons can not
> move so fast in an electrical conductor. I've read a few links from Ivor
> Catt and scientists he relies on.
> It's almost as if a capacitor is already a product for free energy in the
> broadest sense.
>
> regards
>
> Sven
>
> 
>

Hi Warren,

I just want to know where we should go about our research in general. I personally believe if there is free energy then it is in the high voltage on the high impedance of a coil. If I have a coil which is highly inductive or has high impedance, it will inevitably always generate high voltages.

I changed my transverter to higher impedance.

I am now at 850 to 900 volts max. Capacitor charge. the capacitors for extraction and coupling are at 7.5 μF. It can be wonderful everything. The next stage is 1.2 to 1.3 kv. Unfortunately, my components are weakening and it is also difficult to find components that are cheap and resistant.
I have 2x 230V / 24V transformer connected to each diode plug but the impedance is too high parallel running the push-pull transformer with 2x 400W spotlights.

I have been lucky. I have been able to get a huge 5 kva Variac for our conditions. The shaft then hopefully the impedance matching for the batteries so that I can adjust the voltage of the push-pull transformer Stepless for best loading results. I want to get ahead somehow I must be able to couple the diode plug so that I can also charge my batteries so that the impulses also show effect.

Look at my video and you'll hear what I mean, it always works with this transformer no matter what frequency or pulse width it must be over 1000 volts but I think, unfortunately I have no measurement options.

regards

Sven



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4R3LytBwiY&index=19&list=UUH1Cn1sMP6tTF0i3n1oty7Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4R3LytBwiY&index=19&list=UUH1Cn1sMP6tTF0i3n1oty7Q

Hi Warren,

I just want to know where we should go about our research in general. I personally believe if there is free energy then it is in the high voltage on the high impedance of a coil. If I have a coil which is highly inductive or has high impedance, it will inevitably always generate high voltages.

I changed my transverter to higher impedance.

I am now at 850 to 900 volts max. Capacitor charge. the capacitors for extraction and coupling are at 7.5 μF. It can be wonderful everything. The next stage is 1.2 to 1.3 kv. Unfortunately, my components are weakening and it is also difficult to find components that are cheap and resistant.
I have 2x 230V / 24V transformer connected to each diode plug but the impedance is too high parallel running the push-pull transformer with 2x 400W spotlights.

I have been lucky. I have been able to get a huge 5 kva Variac for our conditions. The shaft then hopefully the impedance matching for the batteries so that I can adjust the voltage of the push-pull transformer Stepless for best loading results. I want to get ahead somehow I must be able to couple the diode plug so that I can also charge my batteries so that the impulses also show effect.

Look at my video and you'll hear what I mean, it always works with this transformer no matter what frequency or pulse width it must be over 1000 volts but I think, unfortunately I have no measurement options.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4R3LytBwiY&list=UUH1Cn1sMP6tTF0i3n1oty7Q&index=19 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4R3LytBwiY&list=UUH1Cn1sMP6tTF0i3n1oty7Q&index=19


regards

Sven

JamesYou are correct about the high voltage pulses.I'm not sure what the mechanism is, but I have read it is better.Zilano seems to have written that it is possible to do a lower voltage version, that is less efficient.Of course, the real magic was done with a kv.system.I have yet to replicate Zilano's devices, with success.They seem to be easy to make, but a little short on hands on, idiot proof instructions, with ample feedback.
We have to keeo tryingCheers Warren
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  On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 12:42 PM, James Glinski [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       


Warren don't leave out the hi voltage power  needle pluses. That's important .
On Apr 11, 2018 11:22 AM, "Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:

     

Sven
You are going too fast for me.Give some context to what you are referring to transformers.You mentioned the Earth.Transformers as I understand them, are able to capture hertzian waves that can circulate through them as current.I have been led to believe that two coils can resonate in magnetic proximaty to each other avoiding Lenz's law, providing the frequency is compatible to the wire length of each other.The coil length is very important, but can be very low impedence fat wire, or even copper tubing making the helix, as long as it is a harmonic of the other coil(s) sharing that magnetic field so they resonate together.Capacitors can be used to adjust the tuning, as can changing the helix lengths so resonance can be achieved.Losing lenz's law, yet transfering energy, is difficult, as we all know, and each workable method is a treasure of a tool to work with.The trick, if it is a trick, is to have a nice big tool kit, to design with.Cheers Warren
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  On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 10:00 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
Hello Ole,

ok the capacity of the transformer is the keyword it flows in over the earth?!? That would be free energy over ground potential ????

That would have to work with every other transformer, too, or is the extreme high impedance important, since the number of windings appears to add capacitively.

What and how should we proceed to get positive results. For me, everything speaks for the electric field that should be strengthened or based on it.

A ferroresonant transformer could also be used with low impedance winding and larger capacitors, but it is not made. The windings all have a very high inductance.

The Genesis Project is also based on sucking energy from the electric field with a negative inductor.

I did not really understand Ivor Catt. Only so much that we do not move electrons when current is flowing, as evidence that a capacitor discharges so fast almost at the speed of light and so-called free electrons can not move so fast in an electrical conductor. I've read a few links from Ivor Catt and scientists he relies on.
It's almost as if a capacitor is already a product for free energy in the broadest sense.

regards

Sven
    
   
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Hi Sven,

"ok the capacity of the transformer is the keyword it flows in over the earth?!? That would be free energy over ground potential ????"
A transformer can also be connected between the ground and the air like Tesla did. I don't know if this gives free energy. Baul Bauman did sort the charges of the air (ions). The Testatika machine was said to stop running if left in a closed room with no air movements. If a window was partly open it kept on running or if people moved around in the room to stir up the charges. Thus sorting charges from the air or ground seems to be a possible source of energy. That would be a parallel to Maxwell's demon https://wiki2.org/en/Maxwells_demon or perhaps the same thing?!

"What and how should we proceed to get positive results. For me, everything speaks for the electric field that should be strengthened or based on it."
I continue the path of mixing separate fields into coherence. The best method looks like something Pierre Cotnoir is doing. He mixes the fields without resonance and thus avoids the problem of keeping the fields at resonance. I have thought of an experiment for some years without trying it. It would be mixing two fields through two primaries on the same leg of a transformer. The inputs should be from two separate sources. This might mix the fields in a coherent way if done correct. The experiments with the P.R. Jensen UDT and Hector's transformer involved only one source to generate the different frequencies. The other way by using two alternating voltage sources could be more controllable. I do have the equipment for doing such an experiment. At present I'm preparing something along Pierre Cotnoir's experiment.

"I did not really understand Ivor Catt. Only so much that we do not move electrons when current is flowing"
The electrons or other charge carriers are moved. But they move because of the fields like sweeping a magnetic field across a wire or across a metal plate. The electrons or positrons themselves carry all three of the electromagnetic fields. They have spin (tempic) electric and magnetic fields at right angles to each other. The charges also have fields extending out from them or around them or they are on the move. Thus it works both ways around. The charge carriers are both motors and generators just like electric motors and generators work in both directions power wise. The principles are universal. As above so below I think the ancient Egyptian god Hermes put it.

Regards
Ole
 

---In [email protected], <s.friedrich@...> wrote :

 Hello Ole,

ok the capacity of the transformer is the keyword it flows in over the earth?!? That would be free energy over ground potential ????

That would have to work with every other transformer, too, or is the extreme high impedance important, since the number of windings appears to add capacitively.

What and how should we proceed to get positive results. For me, everything speaks for the electric field that should be strengthened or based on it.

A ferroresonant transformer could also be used with low impedance winding and larger capacitors, but it is not made. The windings all have a very high inductance.

The Genesis Project is also based on sucking energy from the electric field with a negative inductor.

I did not really understand Ivor Catt. Only so much that we do not move electrons when current is flowing, as evidence that a capacitor discharges so fast almost at the speed of light and so-called free electrons can not move so fast in an electrical conductor. I've read a few links from Ivor Catt and scientists he relies on.
It's almost as if a capacitor is already a product for free energy in the broadest sense.

regards

Sven

Warren,

Your well casing should be optimal as long as you are using a battery to
drive the system that way besides allowing the spike to work is unlikely
to create an odd ground loop that overloads the well motor.  Think of
the well motor like a bird on a wire when line is fully floated from
load as in the battery example.  Electricians still go to seminars on
ground loops as some areas the differential between two points burns
things out so they learn to ground everything from a single point.  I am
convinced this "ground loop" problem is really Norms neutral spike
causing a current change between two areas of different electrical
density such as between free soil and a mineral strata or mineral
metals. Current only appears between differentials.


On 4/12/2018 6:05 AM, Warren Keillor [email protected]
[EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> Hi Mick
>
> You are right!
> The ground makes a huge difference.
> The Smith device concept is correct on this point, according to Kurt's
> latest experimental results.
> I need to figure out how to make a good ground here, where I am located.
> I had just put down a nice 10' long steel rebar at my home/workshop,
> before we moved here, where there is sedimentary rock only a few
> inches under the sod.
> If you were to see a cross section, it looks like layers apon layers
> of limestone blocks, along with even harder sandstone layers.
> Can this be a ground?
> I do have a pair of water wells, one that is over120 feet deep. Can I
> ground to the well casing?
> I used to communicate with a ham operator located somewhere near this
> area who had a beam antenna giving him an extraordinary signal even to
> me to my boat in Venezuela.
> Sadly, he has since passed away.
> He had purchased his property based on the radio propagation
> capability. He used to connect telephone patches to my parents, so we
> could chat before cell phones came in.
> I have hopes, I too, can get a ground connections, for Smith experiments.
> Another ground source might be the result of our fence contractor who
> will be putting in page wire perimeter fences, using steel t bar posts
> driven into the rock, using pnuematic jack hammer post drivers.
> I should be able to get a ground off this fence, as well, I hope.
> Zilano manages to run her farm on 160 kw of 250 volt 50 hz table top unit.
> Man! I can certainly use that around here, after this last winter's
> heating bills came home.
> Toronto is in Ontario's banana belt, by comparison to here, in Eastern
> Ontario.
> Cheers Warren
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>
>     On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 3:43 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]
>     <[email protected]> wrote:
>      
>
>     Warren,
>
>     If one takes what Norm says to heart, which I don't know why one
>     wouldn't as he has a hand up on most of us, the issue on your
>     Smith device needs to be tuned to make a neutral spike and receive
>     the ping back.  Look up "lightening return strike"  Start with
>     getting the spike then tune for the proper phase to suck it back in.
>
>     First you have to be able to send the proper width and amplitude
>     pulse and then receive the echo from a well grounded rod.  Part
>     one use a battery to undertake this experiment as many bench
>     supplies and such I think cause problems with their grounding
>     scheme interfering with this.  Part Zero- don't forget the ground,
>     even Don Smith said it would not operate without a ground.  You
>     can't get something for nothing plain resonating is just that
>     until it is taken to the point of such high Q that it pumps a core
>     like a laser then there are some nuclear resonant points one can
>     derive energy from.  On the other hand the neutral spike sounds
>     like a much easier way to source extra power.
>
>
>     On 4/11/2018 12:26 PM, Warren Keillor
>     [email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>      
>>
>>     James
>>
>>     You are correct about the high voltage pulses.
>>     I'm not sure what the mechanism is, but I have read it is better.
>>     Zilano seems to have written that it is possible to do a lower
>>     voltage version, that is less efficient.
>>     Of course, the real magic was done with a kv.system.
>>     I have yet to replicate Zilano's devices, with success.
>>     They seem to be easy to make, but a little short on hands on,
>>     idiot proof instructions, with ample feedback.
>>     We have to keeo trying
>>     Cheers Warren
>>     Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>     <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>>
>>         On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 12:42 PM, James Glinski
>>         [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
>>         <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>          
>>
>>         Warren don't leave out the hi voltage power  needle pluses.
>>         That's important .
>>
>>         On Apr 11, 2018 11:22 AM, "Warren Keillor
>>         [email protected]
>>         <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]"
>>         <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>              
>>
>>
>>             Sven
>>
>>             You are going too fast for me.
>>             Give some context to what you are referring to transformers.
>>             You mentioned the Earth.
>>             Transformers as I understand them, are able to capture
>>             hertzian waves that can circulate through them as current.
>>             I have been led to believe that two coils can resonate in
>>             magnetic proximaty to each other avoiding Lenz's law,
>>             providing the frequency is compatible to the wire length
>>             of each other.
>>             The coil length is very important, but can be very low
>>             impedence fat wire, or even copper tubing making the
>>             helix, as long as it is a harmonic of the other coil(s)
>>             sharing that magnetic field so they resonate together.
>>             Capacitors can be used to adjust the tuning, as can
>>             changing the helix lengths so resonance can be achieved.
>>             Losing lenz's law, yet transfering energy, is difficult,
>>             as we all know, and each workable method is a treasure of
>>             a tool to work with.
>>             The trick, if it is a trick, is to have a nice big tool
>>             kit, to design with.
>>             Cheers Warren
>>             Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>             <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>>
>>                 On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 10:00 AM,
>>                 [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>                 [EVGRAY]
>>                 <[email protected]
>>                 <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>                  
>>
>>                 Hello Ole,
>>
>>                 ok the capacity of the transformer is the keyword it
>>                 flows in over the earth?!? That would be free energy
>>                 over ground potential ????
>>
>>                 That would have to work with every other transformer,
>>                 too, or is the extreme high impedance important,
>>                 since the number of windings appears to add capacitively.
>>
>>                 What and how should we proceed to get positive
>>                 results. For me, everything speaks for the electric
>>                 field that should be strengthened or based on it.
>>
>>                 A ferroresonant transformer could also be used with
>>                 low impedance winding and larger capacitors, but it
>>                 is not made. The windings all have a very high
>>                 inductance.
>>
>>                 The Genesis Project is also based on sucking energy
>>                 from the electric field with a negative inductor.
>>
>>                 I did not really understand Ivor Catt. Only so much
>>                 that we do not move electrons when current is
>>                 flowing, as evidence that a capacitor discharges so
>>                 fast almost at the speed of light and so-called free
>>                 electrons can not move so fast in an electrical
>>                 conductor. I've read a few links from Ivor Catt and
>>                 scientists he relies on.
>>                 It's almost as if a capacitor is already a product
>>                 for free energy in the broadest sense.
>>
>>                 regards
>>
>>                 Sven
>>
>
>

Correction --"current flow" only appears between differentials otherwise
current is a scalar and we are back to the bird on the wire.


On 4/12/2018 6:05 AM, Warren Keillor [email protected]
[EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> Hi Mick
>
> You are right!
> The ground makes a huge difference.
> The Smith device concept is correct on this point, according to Kurt's
> latest experimental results.
> I need to figure out how to make a good ground here, where I am located.
> I had just put down a nice 10' long steel rebar at my home/workshop,
> before we moved here, where there is sedimentary rock only a few
> inches under the sod.
> If you were to see a cross section, it looks like layers apon layers
> of limestone blocks, along with even harder sandstone layers.
> Can this be a ground?
> I do have a pair of water wells, one that is over120 feet deep. Can I
> ground to the well casing?
> I used to communicate with a ham operator located somewhere near this
> area who had a beam antenna giving him an extraordinary signal even to
> me to my boat in Venezuela.
> Sadly, he has since passed away.
> He had purchased his property based on the radio propagation
> capability. He used to connect telephone patches to my parents, so we
> could chat before cell phones came in.
> I have hopes, I too, can get a ground connections, for Smith experiments.
> Another ground source might be the result of our fence contractor who
> will be putting in page wire perimeter fences, using steel t bar posts
> driven into the rock, using pnuematic jack hammer post drivers.
> I should be able to get a ground off this fence, as well, I hope.
> Zilano manages to run her farm on 160 kw of 250 volt 50 hz table top unit.
> Man! I can certainly use that around here, after this last winter's
> heating bills came home.
> Toronto is in Ontario's banana belt, by comparison to here, in Eastern
> Ontario.
> Cheers Warren
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>
>     On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 3:43 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]
>     <[email protected]> wrote:
>      
>
>     Warren,
>
>     If one takes what Norm says to heart, which I don't know why one
>     wouldn't as he has a hand up on most of us, the issue on your
>     Smith device needs to be tuned to make a neutral spike and receive
>     the ping back.  Look up "lightening return strike"  Start with
>     getting the spike then tune for the proper phase to suck it back in.
>
>     First you have to be able to send the proper width and amplitude
>     pulse and then receive the echo from a well grounded rod.  Part
>     one use a battery to undertake this experiment as many bench
>     supplies and such I think cause problems with their grounding
>     scheme interfering with this.  Part Zero- don't forget the ground,
>     even Don Smith said it would not operate without a ground.  You
>     can't get something for nothing plain resonating is just that
>     until it is taken to the point of such high Q that it pumps a core
>     like a laser then there are some nuclear resonant points one can
>     derive energy from.  On the other hand the neutral spike sounds
>     like a much easier way to source extra power.
>
>
>     On 4/11/2018 12:26 PM, Warren Keillor
>     [email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>      
>>
>>     James
>>
>>     You are correct about the high voltage pulses.
>>     I'm not sure what the mechanism is, but I have read it is better.
>>     Zilano seems to have written that it is possible to do a lower
>>     voltage version, that is less efficient.
>>     Of course, the real magic was done with a kv.system.
>>     I have yet to replicate Zilano's devices, with success.
>>     They seem to be easy to make, but a little short on hands on,
>>     idiot proof instructions, with ample feedback.
>>     We have to keeo trying
>>     Cheers Warren
>>     Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>     <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>>
>>         On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 12:42 PM, James Glinski
>>         [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
>>         <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>          
>>
>>         Warren don't leave out the hi voltage power  needle pluses.
>>         That's important .
>>
>>         On Apr 11, 2018 11:22 AM, "Warren Keillor
>>         [email protected]
>>         <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]"
>>         <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>              
>>
>>
>>             Sven
>>
>>             You are going too fast for me.
>>             Give some context to what you are referring to transformers.
>>             You mentioned the Earth.
>>             Transformers as I understand them, are able to capture
>>             hertzian waves that can circulate through them as current.
>>             I have been led to believe that two coils can resonate in
>>             magnetic proximaty to each other avoiding Lenz's law,
>>             providing the frequency is compatible to the wire length
>>             of each other.
>>             The coil length is very important, but can be very low
>>             impedence fat wire, or even copper tubing making the
>>             helix, as long as it is a harmonic of the other coil(s)
>>             sharing that magnetic field so they resonate together.
>>             Capacitors can be used to adjust the tuning, as can
>>             changing the helix lengths so resonance can be achieved.
>>             Losing lenz's law, yet transfering energy, is difficult,
>>             as we all know, and each workable method is a treasure of
>>             a tool to work with.
>>             The trick, if it is a trick, is to have a nice big tool
>>             kit, to design with.
>>             Cheers Warren
>>             Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>             <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>>
>>                 On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 10:00 AM,
>>                 [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>                 [EVGRAY]
>>                 <[email protected]
>>                 <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>                  
>>
>>                 Hello Ole,
>>
>>                 ok the capacity of the transformer is the keyword it
>>                 flows in over the earth?!? That would be free energy
>>                 over ground potential ????
>>
>>                 That would have to work with every other transformer,
>>                 too, or is the extreme high impedance important,
>>                 since the number of windings appears to add capacitively.
>>
>>                 What and how should we proceed to get positive
>>                 results. For me, everything speaks for the electric
>>                 field that should be strengthened or based on it.
>>
>>                 A ferroresonant transformer could also be used with
>>                 low impedance winding and larger capacitors, but it
>>                 is not made. The windings all have a very high
>>                 inductance.
>>
>>                 The Genesis Project is also based on sucking energy
>>                 from the electric field with a negative inductor.
>>
>>                 I did not really understand Ivor Catt. Only so much
>>                 that we do not move electrons when current is
>>                 flowing, as evidence that a capacitor discharges so
>>                 fast almost at the speed of light and so-called free
>>                 electrons can not move so fast in an electrical
>>                 conductor. I've read a few links from Ivor Catt and
>>                 scientists he relies on.
>>                 It's almost as if a capacitor is already a product
>>                 for free energy in the broadest sense.
>>
>>                 regards
>>
>>                 Sven
>>
>
>

Norm,

Did the MRA operate OU in free air ungrounded?  The story of the
lightbulbs blowing up makes me wonder if Joel had this unit grounded.

Do you know if sweet used earth ground in his VTA?

Based on what I have read on return strikes the power is unfathomable so
I can see why you consider 220 80 amps low voltage:)

Anyhow once we derive a reliable source of the neutral then can we
attempt storage.  I have a strong feeling this may take us back aways to
water Leyden caps, as water or gasses may be the only usable primary
storage mechanism.  Maybe Ben Franklin had the right idea in the first
place.

Could you please provide the link again for the replication of the MRA
where the individual used a regular core rather than a magnet?

Thanks,

Mick


On 4/12/2018 10:52 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> Thank You all! for the discussion regarding the creation of Neutral
> Spike & ferroresonance phenomenon!  If you will go all the way back to
> Tesla Telagraphy 101, explained on page 25 of the Colorado Springs
> Notes, you will understand how Tesla was able to use approximately
> 200VDC (batteries in series) to provide a unidirectional (DC pulse) of
> 20 miliamps into the ground system. He used a permanent magnet core
> coil and a gas filled pulse tube which gave a break-over conduction
> from a relay provided de-magnification pulse at tube allowing
> conduction.  This was learned when Tesla built the magnetic rectifier
> for the New Your street light which were run on DC prior to his AC
> electrification of New York.  I the Wardencliff tower, magnifying
> transmitter, there was an expansive radial conductor ground system
> which provided the necessary bonding to the earth.  All of this
> followed Tesla sending control signals to his little submarine boat on
> the Hudson River. First ever remote radio control using earth and
> water as a signal carrier.   Rogers got the concept of his Underground
> Antennae from Tesla experiments.     My (easily replicated)
> experiments with locked rotor 5 HP compressor motors producing
> Negative Spikes is an example of relative low voltage production of
> the phenomenon. 230VAC @ 82 amps is low power to me.    Yes! The earth
> response is very high voltage blast at super high currents which
> cannot be me4asured or quantified. Our challenge is to capture and
> utilize this strange power just as we had proposed for the controlable
> production of the ferroresonane phenomenon. The trick is to be able to
> create a sustained chain of events so we an possibly transfor the high
> voltages and current into a useable power output.  See the numerous
> articles I put up on ELF that is all driven by underground and under
> water signal flow.  Roger's original antennae used a lead pipe buried
> under ground.
>
> On 4/12/2018 10:11 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>  
>>
>> Correction --"current flow" only appears between differentials
>> otherwise current is a scalar and we are back to the bird on the wire.
>>
>>
>> On 4/12/2018 6:05 AM, Warren Keillor [email protected]
>> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>  
>>>
>>> Hi Mick
>>>
>>> You are right!
>>> The ground makes a huge difference.
>>> The Smith device concept is correct on this point, according to
>>> Kurt's latest experimental results.
>>> I need to figure out how to make a good ground here, where I am located.
>>> I had just put down a nice 10' long steel rebar at my home/workshop,
>>> before we moved here, where there is sedimentary rock only a few
>>> inches under the sod.
>>> If you were to see a cross section, it looks like layers apon layers
>>> of limestone blocks, along with even harder sandstone layers.
>>> Can this be a ground?
>>> I do have a pair of water wells, one that is over120 feet deep. Can
>>> I ground to the well casing?
>>> I used to communicate with a ham operator located somewhere near
>>> this area who had a beam antenna giving him an extraordinary signal
>>> even to me to my boat in Venezuela.
>>> Sadly, he has since passed away.
>>> He had purchased his property based on the radio propagation
>>> capability. He used to connect telephone patches to my parents, so
>>> we could chat before cell phones came in.
>>> I have hopes, I too, can get a ground connections, for Smith
>>> experiments.
>>> Another ground source might be the result of our fence contractor
>>> who will be putting in page wire perimeter fences, using steel t bar
>>> posts driven into the rock, using pnuematic jack hammer post drivers.
>>> I should be able to get a ground off this fence, as well, I hope.
>>> Zilano manages to run her farm on 160 kw of 250 volt 50 hz table top
>>> unit.
>>> Man! I can certainly use that around here, after this last winter's
>>> heating bills came home.
>>> Toronto is in Ontario's banana belt, by comparison to here, in
>>> Eastern Ontario.
>>> Cheers Warren
>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>>>
>>>     On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 3:43 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]
>>>     <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>      
>>>
>>>     Warren,
>>>
>>>     If one takes what Norm says to heart, which I don't know why one
>>>     wouldn't as he has a hand up on most of us, the issue on your
>>>     Smith device needs to be tuned to make a neutral spike and
>>>     receive the ping back.  Look up "lightening return strike" 
>>>     Start with getting the spike then tune for the proper phase to
>>>     suck it back in.
>>>
>>>     First you have to be able to send the proper width and amplitude
>>>     pulse and then receive the echo from a well grounded rod.  Part
>>>     one use a battery to undertake this experiment as many bench
>>>     supplies and such I think cause problems with their grounding
>>>     scheme interfering with this.  Part Zero- don't forget the
>>>     ground, even Don Smith said it would not operate without a
>>>     ground.  You can't get something for nothing plain resonating is
>>>     just that until it is taken to the point of such high Q that it
>>>     pumps a core like a laser then there are some nuclear resonant
>>>     points one can derive energy from.  On the other hand the
>>>     neutral spike sounds like a much easier way to source extra power.
>>>
>>>
>>>     On 4/11/2018 12:26 PM, Warren Keillor
>>>     [email protected]
>>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>      
>>>>
>>>>     James
>>>>
>>>>     You are correct about the high voltage pulses.
>>>>     I'm not sure what the mechanism is, but I have read it is better.
>>>>     Zilano seems to have written that it is possible to do a lower
>>>>     voltage version, that is less efficient.
>>>>     Of course, the real magic was done with a kv.system.
>>>>     I have yet to replicate Zilano's devices, with success.
>>>>     They seem to be easy to make, but a little short on hands on,
>>>>     idiot proof instructions, with ample feedback.
>>>>     We have to keeo trying
>>>>     Cheers Warren
>>>>     Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>>>     <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>>>>
>>>>         On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 12:42 PM, James Glinski
>>>>         [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
>>>>         <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>          
>>>>
>>>>         Warren don't leave out the hi voltage power  needle pluses.
>>>>         That's important .
>>>>
>>>>         On Apr 11, 2018 11:22 AM, "Warren Keillor
>>>>         [email protected]
>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]"
>>>>         <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>              
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>             Sven
>>>>
>>>>             You are going too fast for me.
>>>>             Give some context to what you are referring to
>>>>             transformers.
>>>>             You mentioned the Earth.
>>>>             Transformers as I understand them, are able to capture
>>>>             hertzian waves that can circulate through them as current.
>>>>             I have been led to believe that two coils can resonate
>>>>             in magnetic proximaty to each other avoiding Lenz's
>>>>             law, providing the frequency is compatible to the wire
>>>>             length of each other.
>>>>             The coil length is very important, but can be very low
>>>>             impedence fat wire, or even copper tubing making the
>>>>             helix, as long as it is a harmonic of the other coil(s)
>>>>             sharing that magnetic field so they resonate together.
>>>>             Capacitors can be used to adjust the tuning, as can
>>>>             changing the helix lengths so resonance can be achieved.
>>>>             Losing lenz's law, yet transfering energy, is
>>>>             difficult, as we all know, and each workable method is
>>>>             a treasure of a tool to work with.
>>>>             The trick, if it is a trick, is to have a nice big tool
>>>>             kit, to design with.
>>>>             Cheers Warren
>>>>             Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>>>             <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>>>>
>>>>                 On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 10:00 AM,
>>>>                 [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>                 [EVGRAY]
>>>>                 <[email protected]
>>>>                 <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>                  
>>>>
>>>>                 Hello Ole,
>>>>
>>>>                 ok the capacity of the transformer is the keyword
>>>>                 it flows in over the earth?!? That would be free
>>>>                 energy over ground potential ????
>>>>
>>>>                 That would have to work with every other
>>>>                 transformer, too, or is the extreme high impedance
>>>>                 important, since the number of windings appears to
>>>>                 add capacitively.
>>>>
>>>>                 What and how should we proceed to get positive
>>>>                 results. For me, everything speaks for the electric
>>>>                 field that should be strengthened or based on it.
>>>>
>>>>                 A ferroresonant transformer could also be used with
>>>>                 low impedance winding and larger capacitors, but it
>>>>                 is not made. The windings all have a very high
>>>>                 inductance.
>>>>
>>>>                 The Genesis Project is also based on sucking energy
>>>>                 from the electric field with a negative inductor.
>>>>
>>>>                 I did not really understand Ivor Catt. Only so much
>>>>                 that we do not move electrons when current is
>>>>                 flowing, as evidence that a capacitor discharges so
>>>>                 fast almost at the speed of light and so-called
>>>>                 free electrons can not move so fast in an
>>>>                 electrical conductor. I've read a few links from
>>>>                 Ivor Catt and scientists he relies on.
>>>>                 It's almost as if a capacitor is already a product
>>>>                 for free energy in the broadest sense.
>>>>
>>>>                 regards
>>>>
>>>>                 Sven
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

Thank You all! for the discussion regarding the creation of Neutral 
Spike & ferroresonance phenomenon!  If you will go all the way back to 
Tesla Telagraphy 101, explained on page 25 of the Colorado Springs 
Notes, you will understand how Tesla was able to use approximately 
200VDC (batteries in series) to provide a unidirectional (DC pulse) of 
20 miliamps into the ground system. He used a permanent magnet core coil 
and a gas filled pulse tube which gave a break-over conduction from a 
relay provided de-magnification pulse at tube allowing conduction.  This 
was learned when Tesla built the magnetic rectifier for the New Your 
street light which were run on DC prior to his AC electrification of New 
York.  I the Wardencliff tower, magnifying transmitter, there was an 
expansive radial conductor ground system which provided the necessary 
bonding to the earth.  All of this followed Tesla sending control 
signals to his little submarine boat on the Hudson River. First ever 
remote radio control using earth and water as a signal carrier.   Rogers 
got the concept of his Underground Antennae from Tesla experiments.     
My (easily replicated) experiments with locked rotor 5 HP compressor 
motors producing Negative Spikes is an example of relative low voltage 
production of the phenomenon. 230VAC @ 82 amps is low power to me.    
Yes! The earth response is very high voltage blast at super high 
currents which cannot be me4asured or quantified. Our challenge is to 
capture and utilize this strange power just as we had proposed for the 
controlable production of the ferroresonane phenomenon. The trick is to 
be able to create a sustained chain of events so we an possibly transfor 
the high voltages and current into a useable power output.  See the 
numerous articles I put up on ELF that is all driven by underground and 
under water signal flow.  Roger's original antennae used a lead pipe 
buried under ground.

On 4/12/2018 10:11 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Correction --"current flow" only appears between differentials 
> otherwise current is a scalar and we are back to the bird on the wire.
>
>
> On 4/12/2018 6:05 AM, Warren Keillor [email protected] 
> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>> Hi Mick
>>
>> You are right!
>> The ground makes a huge difference.
>> The Smith device concept is correct on this point, according to 
>> Kurt's latest experimental results.
>> I need to figure out how to make a good ground here, where I am located.
>> I had just put down a nice 10' long steel rebar at my home/workshop, 
>> before we moved here, where there is sedimentary rock only a few 
>> inches under the sod.
>> If you were to see a cross section, it looks like layers apon layers 
>> of limestone blocks, along with even harder sandstone layers.
>> Can this be a ground?
>> I do have a pair of water wells, one that is over120 feet deep. Can I 
>> ground to the well casing?
>> I used to communicate with a ham operator located somewhere near this 
>> area who had a beam antenna giving him an extraordinary signal even 
>> to me to my boat in Venezuela.
>> Sadly, he has since passed away.
>> He had purchased his property based on the radio propagation 
>> capability. He used to connect telephone patches to my parents, so we 
>> could chat before cell phones came in.
>> I have hopes, I too, can get a ground connections, for Smith experiments.
>> Another ground source might be the result of our fence contractor who 
>> will be putting in page wire perimeter fences, using steel t bar 
>> posts driven into the rock, using pnuematic jack hammer post drivers.
>> I should be able to get a ground off this fence, as well, I hope.
>> Zilano manages to run her farm on 160 kw of 250 volt 50 hz table top 
>> unit.
>> Man! I can certainly use that around here, after this last winter's 
>> heating bills came home.
>> Toronto is in Ontario's banana belt, by comparison to here, in 
>> Eastern Ontario.
>> Cheers Warren
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
>> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>>
>>     On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 3:43 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]
>>     <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>     Warren,
>>
>>     If one takes what Norm says to heart, which I don't know why one
>>     wouldn't as he has a hand up on most of us, the issue on your
>>     Smith device needs to be tuned to make a neutral spike and
>>     receive the ping back.  Look up "lightening return strike"  Start
>>     with getting the spike then tune for the proper phase to suck it
>>     back in.
>>
>>     First you have to be able to send the proper width and amplitude
>>     pulse and then receive the echo from a well grounded rod.  Part
>>     one use a battery to undertake this experiment as many bench
>>     supplies and such I think cause problems with their grounding
>>     scheme interfering with this.  Part Zero- don't forget the
>>     ground, even Don Smith said it would not operate without a
>>     ground.  You can't get something for nothing plain resonating is
>>     just that until it is taken to the point of such high Q that it
>>     pumps a core like a laser then there are some nuclear resonant
>>     points one can derive energy from.  On the other hand the neutral
>>     spike sounds like a much easier way to source extra power.
>>
>>
>>     On 4/11/2018 12:26 PM, Warren Keillor
>>     [email protected]
>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>>     James
>>>
>>>     You are correct about the high voltage pulses.
>>>     I'm not sure what the mechanism is, but I have read it is better.
>>>     Zilano seems to have written that it is possible to do a lower
>>>     voltage version, that is less efficient.
>>>     Of course, the real magic was done with a kv.system.
>>>     I have yet to replicate Zilano's devices, with success.
>>>     They seem to be easy to make, but a little short on hands on,
>>>     idiot proof instructions, with ample feedback.
>>>     We have to keeo trying
>>>     Cheers Warren
>>>     Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>>     <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>>>
>>>         On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 12:42 PM, James Glinski
>>>         [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
>>>         <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>         Warren don't leave out the hi voltage power  needle pluses.
>>>         That's important .
>>>
>>>         On Apr 11, 2018 11:22 AM, "Warren Keillor
>>>         [email protected]
>>>         <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]"
>>>         <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>             Sven
>>>
>>>             You are going too fast for me.
>>>             Give some context to what you are referring to transformers.
>>>             You mentioned the Earth.
>>>             Transformers as I understand them, are able to capture
>>>             hertzian waves that can circulate through them as current.
>>>             I have been led to believe that two coils can resonate
>>>             in magnetic proximaty to each other avoiding Lenz's law,
>>>             providing the frequency is compatible to the wire length
>>>             of each other.
>>>             The coil length is very important, but can be very low
>>>             impedence fat wire, or even copper tubing making the
>>>             helix, as long as it is a harmonic of the other coil(s)
>>>             sharing that magnetic field so they resonate together.
>>>             Capacitors can be used to adjust the tuning, as can
>>>             changing the helix lengths so resonance can be achieved.
>>>             Losing lenz's law, yet transfering energy, is difficult,
>>>             as we all know, and each workable method is a treasure
>>>             of a tool to work with.
>>>             The trick, if it is a trick, is to have a nice big tool
>>>             kit, to design with.
>>>             Cheers Warren
>>>             Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>>             <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>>>
>>>                 On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 10:00 AM,
>>>                 [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>                 [EVGRAY]
>>>                 <[email protected]
>>>                 <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>
>>>                 Hello Ole,
>>>
>>>                 ok the capacity of the transformer is the keyword it
>>>                 flows in over the earth?!? That would be free energy
>>>                 over ground potential ????
>>>
>>>                 That would have to work with every other
>>>                 transformer, too, or is the extreme high impedance
>>>                 important, since the number of windings appears to
>>>                 add capacitively.
>>>
>>>                 What and how should we proceed to get positive
>>>                 results. For me, everything speaks for the electric
>>>                 field that should be strengthened or based on it.
>>>
>>>                 A ferroresonant transformer could also be used with
>>>                 low impedance winding and larger capacitors, but it
>>>                 is not made. The windings all have a very high
>>>                 inductance.
>>>
>>>                 The Genesis Project is also based on sucking energy
>>>                 from the electric field with a negative inductor.
>>>
>>>                 I did not really understand Ivor Catt. Only so much
>>>                 that we do not move electrons when current is
>>>                 flowing, as evidence that a capacitor discharges so
>>>                 fast almost at the speed of light and so-called free
>>>                 electrons can not move so fast in an electrical
>>>                 conductor. I've read a few links from Ivor Catt and
>>>                 scientists he relies on.
>>>                 It's almost as if a capacitor is already a product
>>>                 for free energy in the broadest sense.
>>>
>>>                 regards
>>>
>>>                 Sven
>>>
>>
>
>

Hi MickYou are right!The ground makes a huge difference.The Smith device concept is correct on this point, according to Kurt's latest experimental results.I need to figure out how to make a good ground here, where I am located.I had just put down a nice 10' long steel rebar at my home/workshop, before we moved here, where there is sedimentary rock only a few inches under the sod.If you were to see a cross section, it looks like layers apon layers of limestone blocks, along with even harder sandstone layers.Can this be a ground?I do have a pair of water wells, one that is over120 feet deep. Can I ground to the well casing?I used to communicate with a ham operator located somewhere near this area who had a beam antenna giving him an extraordinary signal even to me to my boat in Venezuela.Sadly, he has since passed away.He had purchased his property based on the radio propagation capability. He used to connect telephone patches to my parents, so we could chat before cell phones came in.I have hopes, I too, can get a ground connections, for Smith experiments.
Another ground source might be the result of our fence contractor who will be putting in page wire perimeter fences, using steel t bar posts driven into the rock, using pnuematic jack hammer post drivers.I should be able to get a ground off this fence, as well, I hope.Zilano manages to run her farm on 160 kw of 250 volt 50 hz table top unit.Man! I can certainly use that around here, after this last winter's heating bills came home.Toronto is in Ontario's banana belt, by comparison to here, in Eastern Ontario.Cheers Warren
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 3:43 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
 

Warren,
 
If one takes what Norm says to heart, which I don't know why one wouldn't as he has a hand up on most of us, the issue on your Smith device needs to be tuned to make a neutral spike and receive the ping back.  Look up "lightening return strike"  Start with getting the spike then tune for the proper phase to suck it back in.
 
 
First you have to be able to send the proper width and amplitude pulse and then receive the echo from a well grounded rod.  Part one use a battery to undertake this experiment as many bench supplies and such I think cause problems with their grounding scheme interfering with this.  Part Zero- don't forget the ground, even Don Smith said it would not operate without a ground.  You can't get something for nothing plain resonating is just that until it is taken to the point of such high Q that it pumps a core like a laser then there are some nuclear resonant points one can derive energy from.  On the other hand the neutral spike sounds like a much easier way to source extra power.
 
 
 On 4/11/2018 12:26 PM, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
James
 You are correct about the high voltage pulses. I'm not sure what the mechanism is, but I have read it is better. Zilano seems to have written that it is possible to do a lower voltage version, that is less efficient. Of course, the real magic was done with a kv.system. I have yet to replicate Zilano's devices, with success. They seem to be easy to make, but a little short on hands on, idiot proof instructions, with ample feedback.
 We have to keeo trying Cheers Warren
 Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 12:42 PM, James Glinski [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:          
Warren don't leave out the hi voltage power  needle pluses. That's important .
 On Apr 11, 2018 11:22 AM, "Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
 
       

 Sven
 You are going too fast for me. Give some context to what you are referring to transformers. You mentioned the Earth. Transformers as I understand them, are able to capture hertzian waves that can circulate through them as current. I have been led to believe that two coils can resonate in magnetic proximaty to each other avoiding Lenz's law, providing the frequency is  compatible to the wire length of each other. The coil length is very important, but can be very low impedence fat wire, or even copper tubing making the helix, as long as it is a harmonic of  the other coil(s) sharing that magnetic field so they resonate together. Capacitors can be used to adjust the tuning, as can changing the helix lengths so resonance can be achieved. Losing lenz's law, yet transfering energy, is difficult, as we all know, and each workable method is a treasure of a tool to work with. The trick, if it is a trick, is to have a nice big tool kit, to design with. Cheers Warren
 Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 10:00 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:          
Hello Ole,
 
 ok the capacity of the transformer is the keyword it flows in over the earth?!? That would be free energy over ground potential ????
 
 That would have to work with every other transformer, too, or is the extreme high impedance important, since the number of windings appears to add capacitively.
 
 What and how should we proceed to get positive results. For me, everything speaks for the electric field that should be strengthened or based on it.
 
 A ferroresonant transformer could also be used with low impedance winding and larger capacitors, but it is not made. The windings all have a very high inductance.
 
 The Genesis Project is also based on sucking energy from the electric field with a negative inductor.
 
 I did not really understand Ivor Catt. Only so much that we do not move electrons when current is flowing, as evidence that a capacitor discharges so fast almost at the speed of light and so-called free electrons can not move so fast in an electrical conductor. I've read a few links from Ivor Catt and scientists he relies on.
 It's almost as if a capacitor is already a product for free energy in the broadest sense.
 
 regards
 
 Sven
       
      
        
   
 
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Hi Lutz,

I don't know about it being possible to cancel Lenz's law. The equivalent of Lenz's law in mechanical systems known as Newton's third law (i.e. for every action there is an equal opposite reaction) can change direction by using negative mass (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAJlg8MDAlU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAJlg8MDAlU). Something similar could be the solution to negating Lenz's law. This could be what is done in the Genesis Project: http://freenrg.info/Misc/Genesis/. http://freenrg.info/Misc/Genesis/ Here a negative electric field is used as background field.

The only thing I see in your transformer is that the two fields from each end are made separate. Then if the fields are mixed into a single coherent field there will be an increase in energy. But the field has to pass through the winding of the secondary coil. When the loops formed by the secondary winding has the magnetic flux pass sideways across the loops equal but opposite currents tries to run in the loops. Thus they just cancel out leaving only a small electric field on opposite sides of the loops instead of along the wire forming the loops. This would be like two half loops having half the voltage as a single loop with the same flux passing through it. A no circuit is formed around the magnetic flux then no current will flow.

Regards
Ole
 

---In [email protected], <lutzliebers@...> wrote :

 Hi Ole,
 thanks for affirming my keen corrections.
 
 If you are an expert on the law of induction, please leave a comment. I have an "evil plan" in mind how to
 lure away the Lenzian demon (not trying to kill it). 
 
 O.K., many a brave fellows may have done that in vain. But I do not think the universe hates us, instead it 
 is supposed to love us     https://youtu.be/nXKIS8St5rY https://youtu.be/nXKIS8St5rY   since we all are its own creation. 
 Nature should give us whatever is needed to make a living, OU included.
 
 link: http://schiefs.com/mystuff/a_novel_transformer.pdf http://schiefs.com/mystuff/a_novel_transformer.pdf
 However I have objections concerning my own idea: 
 - is the induction law applicable on this situation at all?
 - if so, the Lenz counter flux under load will vibrate in the secondary core without being able to hold up
   against anything. So it has to be considered as stray flux and the impedance of the secondary winding 
   might be very high resulting in quite a low output power rate.
   Strange as it may sound but the cure for this might be to put some copper rings around the secondary 
   core (short circuit one turn windings of low resistance) creating a secondary Lenz counter flux that 
   pushes against the original Lenz flux. Thus the impedance of the output winding would be reduced 
   and the extractable output current would raise. 
   However these rings should be aligned fully radial, in order not to "see" any inducing primary flux.
 
 If the strange thing will work, it should be called "Lohengrin-transformer" https://youtu.be/hNRHw9a9IqI https://youtu.be/hNRHw9a9IqI   
 
 Regards
 Lutz  
 
 
 
 
 Am 10.04.2018 um 02:21 schrieb onielsen@... mailto:onielsen@... [EVGRAY]:

   Hi Lutz,
 
 You're right. I totally agree. This was a mistake on that page.
 
 Regards
 Ole
 
 
 ---In [email protected] mailto:[email protected], <lutzliebers@...> mailto:lutzliebers@... wrote :
 

 
 http://www.sharetechnote.com/html/Electronics_Diode_KickBack.html http://www.sharetechnote.com/html/Electronics_Diode_KickBack.html
 
 Something is wrong with the explanations in figure (upper C): it's not the current that reverses its 
 direction in the moment of opening the switch but the created EMK is reversed in respect to the polarity
 of the battery. 
 In other words: 
 - when you power the inductor from the battery, the current will lag due to the inductors' self inductance
   creating a counter EMK until the current reaches its stationary rate defined by the Ohmic share of the
   inductors' impedance.
 - when you open the switch, the current is hindered from flowing through the inductor, so its rate over
   time dI/dt is decreasing rapidly. According to the law of self inductance this negative dI/dt will create
   a reversed EMK called kick back spike. As a consequence, an arc is created between the contacts and 
   the current will continue to flow through the arc in the same direction but at a decreasing rate 
   until the energy of the magnetic flux is fully consumed.  
 
 If there is a free wheeling diode hooked parallel to the inductor (figure middle C), the current will flow from
 the plus side of the battery through the closed switch downwards through the inductor to the minus side of 
 the battery while the diode is sleeping. 
 In the moment of opening the switch, the decreasing current flow, still going in the same direction makes
 the polarity at the inductor reverse and instead of forming an arc the diode wakes up and overtakes the 
 decreasing current flow.
 Thus the negative kick back spike gets limited to the forward voltage of the diode which means to protect
 the contacts of the switch. So the situation has changed to far extend, almost as if a resistor or filament 
 was switched.
 
 
 ...

Hi Ole, but if Ivor Catt was right it would not matter how thick the cable would be to carry a lot of energy when the energy moves around him instead of moving through the electrical conductor as the electron moves or bumps. Well maybe I would have to read it again.

The high voltage acts like a vacuum cleaner for energy or a magnet. The testatika also worked with high voltage.

I'm still considering whether to tackle the Genesis project again, it's easy to set up, the only question is how many turns you need at least, you could take twin strands bifilar to wrap a train, just a thought ,

I also thought about connecting the earth to the resonant circuit of the transverter via a diode, but without sufficient voltage this will probably not work.

Sometimes I think I pump with the diode plug too much energy in the transformer to saturate him, I do not know exactly how I can check this over a peak.

regards

Sven

The universe doesn't hate up .or over Lords cable service stopped due to
lack of payment .and they created us for entertainment .no they love us
.constantly putting us in some kind of trouble .laughing at us .were like a
sitcom better than TV. And no cable bill .😁😨👍😶
On Apr 12, 2018 1:08 PM, "[email protected] [EVGRAY]" <
[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> Hi Lutz,
>
> I don't know about it being possible to cancel Lenz's law. The equivalent
> of Lenz's law in mechanical systems known as Newton's third law (i.e. for
> every action there is an equal opposite reaction) can change direction by
> using negative mass (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAJlg8MDAlU).
> Something similar could be the solution to negating Lenz's law. This could
> be what is done in the Genesis Project: http://freenrg.info/Misc/Genesis/.
> <http://freenrg.info/Misc/Genesis/> Here a negative electric field is
> used as background field.
>
> The only thing I see in your transformer is that the two fields from each
> end are made separate. Then if the fields are mixed into a single coherent
> field there will be an increase in energy. But the field has to pass
> through the winding of the secondary coil. When the loops formed by the
> secondary winding has the magnetic flux pass sideways across the loops
> equal but opposite currents tries to run in the loops. Thus they just
> cancel out leaving only a small electric field on opposite sides of the
> loops instead of along the wire forming the loops. This would be like two
> half loops having half the voltage as a single loop with the same flux
> passing through it. A no circuit is formed around the magnetic flux then no
> current will flow.
>
> Regards
> Ole
>
>
> ---In [email protected], <lutzliebers@...> wrote :
>
> Hi Ole,
> thanks for affirming my keen corrections.
>
> If you are an expert on the law of induction, please leave a comment. I
> have an "evil plan" in mind how to
> lure away the Lenzian demon (not trying to kill it).
>
> O.K., many a brave fellows may have done that in vain. But I do not think
> the universe hates us, instead it
> is supposed to love us     https://youtu.be/nXKIS8St5rY   since we all
> are its own creation.
> Nature should give us whatever is needed to make a living, OU included.
>
> link: http://schiefs.com/mystuff/a_novel_transformer.pdf
> However I have objections concerning my own idea:
> - is the induction law applicable on this situation at all?
> - if so, the Lenz counter flux under load will vibrate in the secondary
> core without being able to hold up
>   against anything. So it has to be considered as stray flux and the
> impedance of the secondary winding
>   might be very high resulting in quite a low output power rate.
>   Strange as it may sound but the cure for this might be to put some
> copper rings around the secondary
>   core (short circuit one turn windings of low resistance) creating a
> secondary Lenz counter flux that
>   pushes against the original Lenz flux. Thus the impedance of the output
> winding would be reduced
>   and the extractable output current would raise.
>   However these rings should be aligned fully radial, in order not to
> "see" any inducing primary flux.
>
> If the strange thing will work, it should be called
> "Lohengrin-transformer" https://youtu.be/hNRHw9a9IqI
>
> Regards
> Lutz
>
>
>
>
> Am 10.04.2018 um 02:21 schrieb onielsen@... [EVGRAY]:
>
>
>
> Hi Lutz,
>
> You're right. I totally agree. This was a mistake on that page.
>
> Regards
> Ole
>
>
> ---In [email protected], <lutzliebers@...> <lutzliebers@...> wrote :
>
>
> http://www.sharetechnote.com/html/Electronics_Diode_KickBack.html
>
> Something is wrong with the explanations in figure (upper C): it's not the
> current that reverses its
> direction in the moment of opening the switch but the created EMK is
> reversed in respect to the polarity
> of the battery.
> In other words:
> - when you power the inductor from the battery, the current will lag due
> to the inductors' self inductance
>   creating a counter EMK until the current reaches its stationary rate
> defined by the Ohmic share of the
>   inductors' impedance.
> - when you open the switch, the current is hindered from flowing through
> the inductor, so its rate over
>   time dI/dt is decreasing rapidly. According to the law of self
> inductance this negative dI/dt will create
>   a reversed EMK called kick back spike. As a consequence, an arc is
> created between the contacts and
>   the current will continue to flow through the arc in the *same
> direction* but at a decreasing rate
>   until the energy of the magnetic flux is fully consumed.
>
> If there is a free wheeling diode hooked parallel to the inductor (figure
> middle C), the current will flow from
> the plus side of the battery through the closed switch downwards through
> the inductor to the minus side of
> the battery while the diode is sleeping.
> In the moment of opening the switch, the decreasing current flow, still
> going in the same direction makes
> the polarity at the inductor reverse and instead of forming an arc the
> diode wakes up and overtakes the
> decreasing current flow.
> Thus the negative kick back spike gets limited to the forward voltage of
> the diode which means to protect
> the contacts of the switch. So the situation has changed to far extend,
> almost as if a resistor or filament
> was switched.
>
>
> ....
>
>
> 
>

Hi Sven,

"...but if Ivor Catt was right it would not matter how thick the cable would be to carry a lot of energy when the energy moves around him instead of moving through the electrical conductor as the electron moves or bumps."
If the wires have resistance they will dissipate the energy. For good reflectors of the fields super conductors would have to be used. Catt treats conductors like having an infinitely high dielectric constant. This means the voltage across a conductor is very small compared to the voltage across a dielectric (insulator). Without conductive guidance the waves spread out like from antennas.

For high power transmission the product of current and voltage has to be high. This puts demands on how the transmission line is made. For low current the dielectric insulation must be able to withstand a high tension. For low tension the wires must withstand a high current. Thus a compromise has to be made. Just look at how high power transmission lines of the grid are made.

There is a web page somewhere showing how to send power through one wire with a reflector at each end. The reflectors are just copper cones with their open ends pointing towards each other. The waves then follow the wire without radiating away. Perhaps the ground helped guide the signal. I don't remember if the ground was used.

Don't send too high HF current through the ground as the ground may be sterilized.

"Sometimes I think I pump with the diode plug too much energy in the transformer to saturate him, I do not know exactly how I can check this over a peak."
That's determined by the current around the core leg. The resonant current has to be enough to saturate the core. The primary and secondary currents cancel each other during load. By the currents I mean the A x turn current which is the total current going around a core leg.

Regards
Ole
 

---In [email protected], <s.friedrich@...> wrote :

 Hi Ole, but if Ivor Catt was right it would not matter how thick the cable would be to carry a lot of energy when the energy moves around him instead of moving through the electrical conductor as the electron moves or bumps. Well maybe I would have to read it again.

The high voltage acts like a vacuum cleaner for energy or a magnet. The testatika also worked with high voltage.

I'm still considering whether to tackle the Genesis project again, it's easy to set up, the only question is how many turns you need at least, you could take twin strands bifilar to wrap a train, just a thought ,

I also thought about connecting the earth to the resonant circuit of the transverter via a diode, but without sufficient voltage this will probably not work.

Sometimes I think I pump with the diode plug too much energy in the transformer to saturate him, I do not know exactly how I can check this over a peak.

regards

Sven

Empty body

John Berry. Read all of my recent post for one has all the details plus a schematic!

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  On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 14:06, Jonathan Berry [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       

Hi Norm, I thought that it was a rare phenomena, I had not realized this was easily reproduced.
My (easily replicated) experiments with locked rotor 5 HP compressor motors producing Negative Spikes is an example of relative low voltage production of the phenomenon. 230VAC @ 82 amps is low power to me. 
Can you clarify the details on producing this effect, not saying I'm going to put 19KW into a 5HP compressor motor to experience this effect, but I'm not saying I'm not either.
 

On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 5:54 AM Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:

     
 

Thank You all! for the discussion regarding the creation of Neutral Spike & ferroresonance phenomenon!  If you will go all the way back to Tesla Telagraphy 101, explained on page 25 of the Colorado Springs Notes, you will understand how Tesla was able to use approximately 200VDC (batteries in series) to provide a unidirectional (DC pulse) of 20 miliamps into the ground system. He used a permanent magnet core coil and a gas filled pulse tube which gave a break-over conduction from a relay provided de-magnification pulse at tube allowing conduction.  This was learned when Tesla built the magnetic rectifier for the New Your street light which were run on DC prior to his AC electrification of New York.  I the Wardencliff tower, magnifying transmitter, there was an expansive radial conductor ground system which provided the necessary bonding to the earth.  All of this followed Tesla sending control signals to his little submarine boat on the Hudson River. First ever remote radio control using earth and water as a signal carrier.   Rogers got the concept of his Underground Antennae from Tesla experiments.     My (easily replicated) experiments with locked rotor 5 HP compressor motors producing Negative Spikes is an example of relative low voltage production of the phenomenon. 230VAC @ 82 amps is low power to me.    Yes! The earth response is very high voltage blast at super high currents which cannot be me4asured or quantified. Our challenge is to capture and utilize this strange power just as we had proposed for the controlable production of the ferroresonane phenomenon. The trick is to be able to create a sustained chain of events so we an possibly transfor the high voltages and current into a useable power output.  See the numerous articles I put up on ELF that is all driven by underground and under water signal flow.  Roger's original antennae used a lead pipe buried under ground.
 
 On 4/12/2018 10:11 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
 
 
Correction --"current flow" only appears between differentials otherwise current is a scalar and we are back to the bird on the wire.
 
 
 On 4/12/2018 6:05 AM, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
Hi Mick
 You are right! The ground makes a huge difference. The Smith device concept is correct on this point, according to Kurt's latest experimental results. I need to figure out how to make a good ground here, where I am located. I had just put down a nice 10' long steel rebar at my home/workshop, before we moved here, where there is sedimentary rock only a few inches under the sod. If you were to see a cross section, it looks like layers apon layers of limestone blocks, along with even harder sandstone layers. Can this be a ground? I do have a pair of water wells, one that is over120 feet deep. Can I ground to the well casing? I used to communicate with a ham operator located somewhere near this area who had a beam antenna giving him an extraordinary signal even to me to my boat in Venezuela. Sadly, he has since passed away. He had purchased his property based on the radio propagation capability. He used to connect telephone patches to my parents, so we could chat before cell phones came in. I have hopes, I too, can get a ground connections, for Smith experiments.
 Another ground source might be the result of our fence contractor who will be putting in page wire perimeter fences, using steel t bar posts driven into the rock, using pnuematic jack hammer post drivers. I should be able to get a ground off this fence, as well, I hope. Zilano manages to run her farm on 160 kw of 250 volt 50 hz table top unit. Man! I can certainly use that around here, after this last winter's heating bills came home. Toronto is in Ontario's banana belt, by comparison to here, in Eastern Ontario. Cheers Warren
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  On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 3:43 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:          
 
 
Warren,
 
If one takes what Norm says to heart, which I don't know why one wouldn't as he has a hand up on most of us, the issue on your Smith device needs to be tuned to make a neutral spike and  receive the ping back.  Look up "lightening return strike"  Start with getting the spike then tune for the proper phase to suck it back in.
 
 
First you have to be able to send the proper width and amplitude pulse and then receive the echo from a well grounded rod.  Part one use a battery to undertake this experiment as many bench supplies and such I think cause problems with their grounding scheme interfering with this.  Part Zero- don't forget the ground, even Don Smith said it would not operate without a ground.  You can't get something for nothing plain resonating is just that until it is taken to the point of such high Q that it pumps a core like a laser then there are some nuclear resonant points one can derive  energy from.  On the other hand the neutral spike sounds like a much easier way to source extra power.
 
 
  On 4/11/2018 12:26 PM, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
James
 You are correct about the high voltage pulses. I'm not sure what the mechanism is, but I have read it is better. Zilano seems to have written that it is possible to do a lower voltage version, that is less efficient. Of course, the real magic was done with a kv.system. I have yet to replicate Zilano's devices, with success. They seem to be easy to make, but a little short on hands on, idiot proof instructions, with ample feedback.
 We have to keeo trying Cheers Warren
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  On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 12:42 PM, James Glinski [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:          
Warren don't leave out the hi voltage power  needle pluses. That's important .
 On Apr 11, 2018 11:22 AM, "Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
 
       

 Sven
 You are going too fast for me. Give some context to what you are referring to transformers. You mentioned the Earth. Transformers as I understand them, are able to capture hertzian waves  that can circulate through them as current. I have been led to believe that two coils can resonate in magnetic  proximaty to each other avoiding Lenz's law, providing the  frequency is compatible to the wire length of each other. The coil length is very important, but can be very low impedence  fat wire, or even copper tubing making the helix, as long as it is  a harmonic of the other coil(s) sharing that magnetic field so they  resonate together. Capacitors can be used to adjust the tuning, as can changing the helix lengths  so resonance can be achieved. Losing lenz's law, yet transfering energy, is difficult, as  we all know, and each workable method is a treasure of a tool to work with. The trick, if it is a trick, is to have a nice big tool kit, to design  with. Cheers Warren
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  On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 10:00 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:          
Hello Ole,
 
 ok the capacity of the transformer is the keyword it flows in over the earth?!? That would be free energy over ground potential ????
 
 That would have to work with every other transformer, too, or is the extreme high impedance important, since the number of windings appears to add capacitively.
 
 What and how should we proceed to get positive results. For me, everything speaks for the electric field that should be strengthened or based on it.
 
 A ferroresonant transformer could also be used with low impedance winding and larger capacitors, but it is not made. The windings all have a very high inductance.
 
 The Genesis Project is also based on sucking energy from the electric field with a negative inductor.
 
 I did not really understand Ivor Catt. Only so much that we do not move electrons when current is flowing, as evidence that a capacitor discharges so fast almost at the speed of light and so-called free electrons can not move so fast in an electrical conductor. I've read a few links from Ivor Catt and scientists he relies on.
 It's almost as if a capacitor is already a product for free energy in the broadest sense.
 
 regards
 
 Sven
       
      
        
   
  
       
   
 
  
 
 

   
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