Re: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] buzzer OU

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Norm,

Did the MRA operate OU in free air ungrounded?  The story of the
lightbulbs blowing up makes me wonder if Joel had this unit grounded.

Do you know if sweet used earth ground in his VTA?

Based on what I have read on return strikes the power is unfathomable so
I can see why you consider 220 80 amps low voltage:)

Anyhow once we derive a reliable source of the neutral then can we
attempt storage.  I have a strong feeling this may take us back aways to
water Leyden caps, as water or gasses may be the only usable primary
storage mechanism.  Maybe Ben Franklin had the right idea in the first
place.

Could you please provide the link again for the replication of the MRA
where the individual used a regular core rather than a magnet?

Thanks,

Mick


On 4/12/2018 10:52 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> Thank You all! for the discussion regarding the creation of Neutral
> Spike & ferroresonance phenomenon!  If you will go all the way back to
> Tesla Telagraphy 101, explained on page 25 of the Colorado Springs
> Notes, you will understand how Tesla was able to use approximately
> 200VDC (batteries in series) to provide a unidirectional (DC pulse) of
> 20 miliamps into the ground system. He used a permanent magnet core
> coil and a gas filled pulse tube which gave a break-over conduction
> from a relay provided de-magnification pulse at tube allowing
> conduction.  This was learned when Tesla built the magnetic rectifier
> for the New Your street light which were run on DC prior to his AC
> electrification of New York.  I the Wardencliff tower, magnifying
> transmitter, there was an expansive radial conductor ground system
> which provided the necessary bonding to the earth.  All of this
> followed Tesla sending control signals to his little submarine boat on
> the Hudson River. First ever remote radio control using earth and
> water as a signal carrier.   Rogers got the concept of his Underground
> Antennae from Tesla experiments.     My (easily replicated)
> experiments with locked rotor 5 HP compressor motors producing
> Negative Spikes is an example of relative low voltage production of
> the phenomenon. 230VAC @ 82 amps is low power to me.    Yes! The earth
> response is very high voltage blast at super high currents which
> cannot be me4asured or quantified. Our challenge is to capture and
> utilize this strange power just as we had proposed for the controlable
> production of the ferroresonane phenomenon. The trick is to be able to
> create a sustained chain of events so we an possibly transfor the high
> voltages and current into a useable power output.  See the numerous
> articles I put up on ELF that is all driven by underground and under
> water signal flow.  Roger's original antennae used a lead pipe buried
> under ground.
>
> On 4/12/2018 10:11 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>>
>> Correction --"current flow" only appears between differentials
>> otherwise current is a scalar and we are back to the bird on the wire.
>>
>>
>> On 4/12/2018 6:05 AM, Warren Keillor [email protected]
>> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>  
>>>
>>> Hi Mick
>>>
>>> You are right!
>>> The ground makes a huge difference.
>>> The Smith device concept is correct on this point, according to
>>> Kurt's latest experimental results.
>>> I need to figure out how to make a good ground here, where I am located.
>>> I had just put down a nice 10' long steel rebar at my home/workshop,
>>> before we moved here, where there is sedimentary rock only a few
>>> inches under the sod.
>>> If you were to see a cross section, it looks like layers apon layers
>>> of limestone blocks, along with even harder sandstone layers.
>>> Can this be a ground?
>>> I do have a pair of water wells, one that is over120 feet deep. Can
>>> I ground to the well casing?
>>> I used to communicate with a ham operator located somewhere near
>>> this area who had a beam antenna giving him an extraordinary signal
>>> even to me to my boat in Venezuela.
>>> Sadly, he has since passed away.
>>> He had purchased his property based on the radio propagation
>>> capability. He used to connect telephone patches to my parents, so
>>> we could chat before cell phones came in.
>>> I have hopes, I too, can get a ground connections, for Smith
>>> experiments.
>>> Another ground source might be the result of our fence contractor
>>> who will be putting in page wire perimeter fences, using steel t bar
>>> posts driven into the rock, using pnuematic jack hammer post drivers.
>>> I should be able to get a ground off this fence, as well, I hope.
>>> Zilano manages to run her farm on 160 kw of 250 volt 50 hz table top
>>> unit.
>>> Man! I can certainly use that around here, after this last winter's
>>> heating bills came home.
>>> Toronto is in Ontario's banana belt, by comparison to here, in
>>> Eastern Ontario.
>>> Cheers Warren
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>>>
>>>     On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 3:43 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]
>>>     <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>      
>>>
>>>     Warren,
>>>
>>>     If one takes what Norm says to heart, which I don't know why one
>>>     wouldn't as he has a hand up on most of us, the issue on your
>>>     Smith device needs to be tuned to make a neutral spike and
>>>     receive the ping back.  Look up "lightening return strike" 
>>>     Start with getting the spike then tune for the proper phase to
>>>     suck it back in.
>>>
>>>     First you have to be able to send the proper width and amplitude
>>>     pulse and then receive the echo from a well grounded rod.  Part
>>>     one use a battery to undertake this experiment as many bench
>>>     supplies and such I think cause problems with their grounding
>>>     scheme interfering with this.  Part Zero- don't forget the
>>>     ground, even Don Smith said it would not operate without a
>>>     ground.  You can't get something for nothing plain resonating is
>>>     just that until it is taken to the point of such high Q that it
>>>     pumps a core like a laser then there are some nuclear resonant
>>>     points one can derive energy from.  On the other hand the
>>>     neutral spike sounds like a much easier way to source extra power.
>>>
>>>
>>>     On 4/11/2018 12:26 PM, Warren Keillor
>>>     [email protected]
>>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>      
>>>>
>>>>     James
>>>>
>>>>     You are correct about the high voltage pulses.
>>>>     I'm not sure what the mechanism is, but I have read it is better.
>>>>     Zilano seems to have written that it is possible to do a lower
>>>>     voltage version, that is less efficient.
>>>>     Of course, the real magic was done with a kv.system.
>>>>     I have yet to replicate Zilano's devices, with success.
>>>>     They seem to be easy to make, but a little short on hands on,
>>>>     idiot proof instructions, with ample feedback.
>>>>     We have to keeo trying
>>>>     Cheers Warren
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>>>>
>>>>         On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 12:42 PM, James Glinski
>>>>         [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
>>>>         <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>          
>>>>
>>>>         Warren don't leave out the hi voltage power  needle pluses.
>>>>         That's important .
>>>>
>>>>         On Apr 11, 2018 11:22 AM, "Warren Keillor
>>>>         [email protected]
>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]"
>>>>         <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>              
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>             Sven
>>>>
>>>>             You are going too fast for me.
>>>>             Give some context to what you are referring to
>>>>             transformers.
>>>>             You mentioned the Earth.
>>>>             Transformers as I understand them, are able to capture
>>>>             hertzian waves that can circulate through them as current.
>>>>             I have been led to believe that two coils can resonate
>>>>             in magnetic proximaty to each other avoiding Lenz's
>>>>             law, providing the frequency is compatible to the wire
>>>>             length of each other.
>>>>             The coil length is very important, but can be very low
>>>>             impedence fat wire, or even copper tubing making the
>>>>             helix, as long as it is a harmonic of the other coil(s)
>>>>             sharing that magnetic field so they resonate together.
>>>>             Capacitors can be used to adjust the tuning, as can
>>>>             changing the helix lengths so resonance can be achieved.
>>>>             Losing lenz's law, yet transfering energy, is
>>>>             difficult, as we all know, and each workable method is
>>>>             a treasure of a tool to work with.
>>>>             The trick, if it is a trick, is to have a nice big tool
>>>>             kit, to design with.
>>>>             Cheers Warren
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>>>>
>>>>                 On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 10:00 AM,
>>>>                 [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>                 [EVGRAY]
>>>>                 <[email protected]
>>>>                 <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>                  
>>>>
>>>>                 Hello Ole,
>>>>
>>>>                 ok the capacity of the transformer is the keyword
>>>>                 it flows in over the earth?!? That would be free
>>>>                 energy over ground potential ????
>>>>
>>>>                 That would have to work with every other
>>>>                 transformer, too, or is the extreme high impedance
>>>>                 important, since the number of windings appears to
>>>>                 add capacitively.
>>>>
>>>>                 What and how should we proceed to get positive
>>>>                 results. For me, everything speaks for the electric
>>>>                 field that should be strengthened or based on it.
>>>>
>>>>                 A ferroresonant transformer could also be used with
>>>>                 low impedance winding and larger capacitors, but it
>>>>                 is not made. The windings all have a very high
>>>>                 inductance.
>>>>
>>>>                 The Genesis Project is also based on sucking energy
>>>>                 from the electric field with a negative inductor.
>>>>
>>>>                 I did not really understand Ivor Catt. Only so much
>>>>                 that we do not move electrons when current is
>>>>                 flowing, as evidence that a capacitor discharges so
>>>>                 fast almost at the speed of light and so-called
>>>>                 free electrons can not move so fast in an
>>>>                 electrical conductor. I've read a few links from
>>>>                 Ivor Catt and scientists he relies on.
>>>>                 It's almost as if a capacitor is already a product
>>>>                 for free energy in the broadest sense.
>>>>
>>>>                 regards
>>>>
>>>>                 Sven
>>>>
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