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Hi Norm, I thought that it was a rare phenomena, I had not realized this
was easily reproduced.

*My (easily replicated) experiments with locked rotor 5 HP compressor
motors producing Negative Spikes is an example of relative low voltage
production of the phenomenon. 230VAC @ 82 amps is low power to me. *

Can you clarify the details on producing this effect, not saying I'm going
to put 19KW into a 5HP compressor motor to experience this effect, but I'm
not saying I'm not either.



On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 5:54 AM Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] <
[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> Thank You all! for the discussion regarding the creation of Neutral Spike
> & ferroresonance phenomenon!  If you will go all the way back to Tesla
> Telagraphy 101, explained on page 25 of the Colorado Springs Notes, you
> will understand how Tesla was able to use approximately 200VDC (batteries
> in series) to provide a unidirectional (DC pulse) of 20 miliamps into the
> ground system. He used a permanent magnet core coil and a gas filled pulse
> tube which gave a break-over conduction from a relay provided
> de-magnification pulse at tube allowing conduction.  This was learned when
> Tesla built the magnetic rectifier for the New Your street light which were
> run on DC prior to his AC electrification of New York.  I the Wardencliff
> tower, magnifying transmitter, there was an expansive radial conductor
> ground system which provided the necessary bonding to the earth.  All of
> this followed Tesla sending control signals to his little submarine boat on
> the Hudson River. First ever remote radio control using earth and water as
> a signal carrier.   Rogers got the concept of his Underground Antennae from
> Tesla experiments.     My (easily replicated) experiments with locked rotor
> 5 HP compressor motors producing Negative Spikes is an example of relative
> low voltage production of the phenomenon. 230VAC @ 82 amps is low power to
> me.    Yes! The earth response is very high voltage blast at super high
> currents which cannot be me4asured or quantified. Our challenge is to
> capture and utilize this strange power just as we had proposed for the
> controlable production of the ferroresonane phenomenon. The trick is to be
> able to create a sustained chain of events so we an possibly transfor the
> high voltages and current into a useable power output.  See the numerous
> articles I put up on ELF that is all driven by underground and under water
> signal flow.  Roger's original antennae used a lead pipe buried under
> ground.
> On 4/12/2018 10:11 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
>
>
> Correction --"current flow" only appears between differentials otherwise
> current is a scalar and we are back to the bird on the wire.
>
> On 4/12/2018 6:05 AM, Warren Keillor [email protected]
> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi Mick
> You are right!
> The ground makes a huge difference.
> The Smith device concept is correct on this point, according to Kurt's
> latest experimental results.
> I need to figure out how to make a good ground here, where I am located.
> I had just put down a nice 10' long steel rebar at my home/workshop,
> before we moved here, where there is sedimentary rock only a few inches
> under the sod.
> If you were to see a cross section, it looks like layers apon layers of
> limestone blocks, along with even harder sandstone layers.
> Can this be a ground?
> I do have a pair of water wells, one that is over120 feet deep. Can I
> ground to the well casing?
> I used to communicate with a ham operator located somewhere near this area
> who had a beam antenna giving him an extraordinary signal even to me to my
> boat in Venezuela.
> Sadly, he has since passed away.
> He had purchased his property based on the radio propagation capability.
> He used to connect telephone patches to my parents, so we could chat before
> cell phones came in.
> I have hopes, I too, can get a ground connections, for Smith experiments.
> Another ground source might be the result of our fence contractor who will
> be putting in page wire perimeter fences, using steel t bar posts driven
> into the rock, using pnuematic jack hammer post drivers.
> I should be able to get a ground off this fence, as well, I hope.
> Zilano manages to run her farm on 160 kw of 250 volt 50 hz table top unit.
> Man! I can certainly use that around here, after this last winter's
> heating bills came home.
> Toronto is in Ontario's banana belt, by comparison to here, in Eastern
> Ontario.
> Cheers Warren
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>
> On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 3:43 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]
> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Warren,
>
> If one takes what Norm says to heart, which I don't know why one wouldn't
> as he has a hand up on most of us, the issue on your Smith device needs to
> be tuned to make a neutral spike and receive the ping back.  Look up
> "lightening return strike"  Start with getting the spike then tune for the
> proper phase to suck it back in.
>
> First you have to be able to send the proper width and amplitude pulse and
> then receive the echo from a well grounded rod.  Part one use a battery to
> undertake this experiment as many bench supplies and such I think cause
> problems with their grounding scheme interfering with this.  Part Zero-
> don't forget the ground, even Don Smith said it would not operate without a
> ground.  You can't get something for nothing plain resonating is just that
> until it is taken to the point of such high Q that it pumps a core like a
> laser then there are some nuclear resonant points one can derive energy
> from.  On the other hand the neutral spike sounds like a much easier way to
> source extra power.
>
> On 4/11/2018 12:26 PM, Warren Keillor [email protected]
> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
>
>
> James
> You are correct about the high voltage pulses.
> I'm not sure what the mechanism is, but I have read it is better.
> Zilano seems to have written that it is possible to do a lower voltage
> version, that is less efficient.
> Of course, the real magic was done with a kv.system.
> I have yet to replicate Zilano's devices, with success.
> They seem to be easy to make, but a little short on hands on, idiot proof
> instructions, with ample feedback.
> We have to keeo trying
> Cheers Warren
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>
> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 12:42 PM, James Glinski [email protected]
> [EVGRAY]
> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Warren don't leave out the hi voltage power  needle pluses. That's
> important .
> On Apr 11, 2018 11:22 AM, "Warren Keillor [email protected]
> <[email protected]> [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Sven
> You are going too fast for me.
> Give some context to what you are referring to transformers.
> You mentioned the Earth.
> Transformers as I understand them, are able to capture hertzian waves that
> can circulate through them as current.
> I have been led to believe that two coils can resonate in magnetic
> proximaty to each other avoiding Lenz's law, providing the frequency is
> compatible to the wire length of each other.
> The coil length is very important, but can be very low impedence fat wire,
> or even copper tubing making the helix, as long as it is a harmonic of the
> other coil(s) sharing that magnetic field so they resonate together.
> Capacitors can be used to adjust the tuning, as can changing the helix
> lengths so resonance can be achieved.
> Losing lenz's law, yet transfering energy, is difficult, as we all know,
> and each workable method is a treasure of a tool to work with.
> The trick, if it is a trick, is to have a nice big tool kit, to design
> with.
> Cheers Warren
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>
> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 10:00 AM, [email protected]
> <[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Hello Ole,
>
> ok the capacity of the transformer is the keyword it flows in over the
> earth?!? That would be free energy over ground potential ????
>
> That would have to work with every other transformer, too, or is the
> extreme high impedance important, since the number of windings appears to
> add capacitively.
>
> What and how should we proceed to get positive results. For me,
> everything speaks for the electric field that should be strengthened or
> based on it.
>
> A ferroresonant transformer could also be used with low impedance winding
> and larger capacitors, but it is not made. The windings all have a very
> high inductance.
>
> The Genesis Project is also based on sucking energy from the electric
> field with a negative inductor.
>
> I did not really understand Ivor Catt. Only so much that we do not move
> electrons when current is flowing, as evidence that a capacitor discharges
> so fast almost at the speed of light and so-called free electrons can not
> move so fast in an electrical conductor. I've read a few links from Ivor
> Catt and scientists he relies on.
> It's almost as if a capacitor is already a product for free energy in the
> broadest sense.
>
> regards
>
> Sven
>
>
>
>
> 
>

Oh and I see that was from April of last year!
Still, better late than never.

On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 9:05 AM Jonathan Berry <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Norm, I thought that it was a rare phenomena, I had not realized this
> was easily reproduced.
>
> *My (easily replicated) experiments with locked rotor 5 HP compressor
> motors producing Negative Spikes is an example of relative low voltage
> production of the phenomenon. 230VAC @ 82 amps is low power to me. *
>
> Can you clarify the details on producing this effect, not saying I'm going
> to put 19KW into a 5HP compressor motor to experience this effect, but I'm
> not saying I'm not either.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 5:54 AM Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Thank You all! for the discussion regarding the creation of Neutral Spike
>> & ferroresonance phenomenon!  If you will go all the way back to Tesla
>> Telagraphy 101, explained on page 25 of the Colorado Springs Notes, you
>> will understand how Tesla was able to use approximately 200VDC (batteries
>> in series) to provide a unidirectional (DC pulse) of 20 miliamps into the
>> ground system. He used a permanent magnet core coil and a gas filled pulse
>> tube which gave a break-over conduction from a relay provided
>> de-magnification pulse at tube allowing conduction.  This was learned when
>> Tesla built the magnetic rectifier for the New Your street light which were
>> run on DC prior to his AC electrification of New York.  I the Wardencliff
>> tower, magnifying transmitter, there was an expansive radial conductor
>> ground system which provided the necessary bonding to the earth.  All of
>> this followed Tesla sending control signals to his little submarine boat on
>> the Hudson River. First ever remote radio control using earth and water as
>> a signal carrier.   Rogers got the concept of his Underground Antennae from
>> Tesla experiments.     My (easily replicated) experiments with locked rotor
>> 5 HP compressor motors producing Negative Spikes is an example of relative
>> low voltage production of the phenomenon. 230VAC @ 82 amps is low power to
>> me.    Yes! The earth response is very high voltage blast at super high
>> currents which cannot be me4asured or quantified. Our challenge is to
>> capture and utilize this strange power just as we had proposed for the
>> controlable production of the ferroresonane phenomenon. The trick is to be
>> able to create a sustained chain of events so we an possibly transfor the
>> high voltages and current into a useable power output.  See the numerous
>> articles I put up on ELF that is all driven by underground and under water
>> signal flow.  Roger's original antennae used a lead pipe buried under
>> ground.
>> On 4/12/2018 10:11 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Correction --"current flow" only appears between differentials otherwise
>> current is a scalar and we are back to the bird on the wire.
>>
>> On 4/12/2018 6:05 AM, Warren Keillor [email protected]
>> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Mick
>> You are right!
>> The ground makes a huge difference.
>> The Smith device concept is correct on this point, according to Kurt's
>> latest experimental results.
>> I need to figure out how to make a good ground here, where I am located.
>> I had just put down a nice 10' long steel rebar at my home/workshop,
>> before we moved here, where there is sedimentary rock only a few inches
>> under the sod.
>> If you were to see a cross section, it looks like layers apon layers of
>> limestone blocks, along with even harder sandstone layers.
>> Can this be a ground?
>> I do have a pair of water wells, one that is over120 feet deep. Can I
>> ground to the well casing?
>> I used to communicate with a ham operator located somewhere near this
>> area who had a beam antenna giving him an extraordinary signal even to me
>> to my boat in Venezuela.
>> Sadly, he has since passed away.
>> He had purchased his property based on the radio propagation capability.
>> He used to connect telephone patches to my parents, so we could chat before
>> cell phones came in.
>> I have hopes, I too, can get a ground connections, for Smith experiments.
>> Another ground source might be the result of our fence contractor who
>> will be putting in page wire perimeter fences, using steel t bar posts
>> driven into the rock, using pnuematic jack hammer post drivers.
>> I should be able to get a ground off this fence, as well, I hope.
>> Zilano manages to run her farm on 160 kw of 250 volt 50 hz table top unit.
>> Man! I can certainly use that around here, after this last winter's
>> heating bills came home.
>> Toronto is in Ontario's banana belt, by comparison to here, in Eastern
>> Ontario.
>> Cheers Warren
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 3:43 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]
>> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Warren,
>>
>> If one takes what Norm says to heart, which I don't know why one wouldn't
>> as he has a hand up on most of us, the issue on your Smith device needs to
>> be tuned to make a neutral spike and receive the ping back.  Look up
>> "lightening return strike"  Start with getting the spike then tune for the
>> proper phase to suck it back in.
>>
>> First you have to be able to send the proper width and amplitude pulse
>> and then receive the echo from a well grounded rod.  Part one use a battery
>> to undertake this experiment as many bench supplies and such I think cause
>> problems with their grounding scheme interfering with this.  Part Zero-
>> don't forget the ground, even Don Smith said it would not operate without a
>> ground.  You can't get something for nothing plain resonating is just that
>> until it is taken to the point of such high Q that it pumps a core like a
>> laser then there are some nuclear resonant points one can derive energy
>> from.  On the other hand the neutral spike sounds like a much easier way to
>> source extra power.
>>
>> On 4/11/2018 12:26 PM, Warren Keillor [email protected]
>> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> James
>> You are correct about the high voltage pulses.
>> I'm not sure what the mechanism is, but I have read it is better.
>> Zilano seems to have written that it is possible to do a lower voltage
>> version, that is less efficient.
>> Of course, the real magic was done with a kv.system.
>> I have yet to replicate Zilano's devices, with success.
>> They seem to be easy to make, but a little short on hands on, idiot proof
>> instructions, with ample feedback.
>> We have to keeo trying
>> Cheers Warren
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 12:42 PM, James Glinski [email protected]
>> [EVGRAY]
>> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Warren don't leave out the hi voltage power  needle pluses. That's
>> important .
>> On Apr 11, 2018 11:22 AM, "Warren Keillor [email protected]
>> <[email protected]> [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sven
>> You are going too fast for me.
>> Give some context to what you are referring to transformers.
>> You mentioned the Earth.
>> Transformers as I understand them, are able to capture hertzian waves
>> that can circulate through them as current.
>> I have been led to believe that two coils can resonate in magnetic
>> proximaty to each other avoiding Lenz's law, providing the frequency is
>> compatible to the wire length of each other.
>> The coil length is very important, but can be very low impedence fat
>> wire, or even copper tubing making the helix, as long as it is a harmonic
>> of the other coil(s) sharing that magnetic field so they resonate together.
>> Capacitors can be used to adjust the tuning, as can changing the helix
>> lengths so resonance can be achieved.
>> Losing lenz's law, yet transfering energy, is difficult, as we all know,
>> and each workable method is a treasure of a tool to work with.
>> The trick, if it is a trick, is to have a nice big tool kit, to design
>> with.
>> Cheers Warren
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 10:00 AM, [email protected]
>> <[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hello Ole,
>>
>> ok the capacity of the transformer is the keyword it flows in over the
>> earth?!? That would be free energy over ground potential ????
>>
>> That would have to work with every other transformer, too, or is the
>> extreme high impedance important, since the number of windings appears to
>> add capacitively.
>>
>> What and how should we proceed to get positive results. For me,
>> everything speaks for the electric field that should be strengthened or
>> based on it.
>>
>> A ferroresonant transformer could also be used with low impedance winding
>> and larger capacitors, but it is not made. The windings all have a very
>> high inductance.
>>
>> The Genesis Project is also based on sucking energy from the electric
>> field with a negative inductor.
>>
>> I did not really understand Ivor Catt. Only so much that we do not move
>> electrons when current is flowing, as evidence that a capacitor discharges
>> so fast almost at the speed of light and so-called free electrons can not
>> move so fast in an electrical conductor. I've read a few links from Ivor
>> Catt and scientists he relies on.
>> It's almost as if a capacitor is already a product for free energy in the
>> broadest sense.
>>
>> regards
>>
>> Sven
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>