Neutral Spike Re: [EVGRAY] Vehicle audio - Wikipedia

In case you were wondering where this is going, It is  very simple.  In 
July 1946, I was just in Grammar School and remember sitting in my Dads 
car and listening to the Operations Crossroads atom bomb  being dropped 
from a B-29 onto Bikini Atoll . see

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_testing_at_Bikini_Atoll

The radio was a Blaupunkt <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blaupunkt> AS 
5 medium wave <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medium_wave> and longwave 
<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longwave> radio which allow us to 
listen to a live broadcast of test via short wave from the Pacific.  
Sparked my interest in how these radios worked, thus I tore into one to 
find the vibrator tube which made the HVDC plate voltage needed in the 
vacuum tube receiver.  This was the spark that had me enroll into DeVry 
Electronics (1953) and join the Ham Club in High School.

https://youtu.be/cwYH98WseG4      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp6PkRTmb8U&feature=youtu.be   Now I know how buzzers worked along with the Model T ignition coil. I had though about using this antiquated technology to make a bullet proof switch to enable a sustained pulse train to drive the ferroresonance phenomenon.  You know how a tinkerers mind works.    Hay, look, they are still available.https://www.tubesandmore.com/products/vibrator-6-volt-4-pin-negative-ground


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignitron Someone asked me about 
switching the 5 HP Neutral Spike experiment with mercury wetted 
switches.  I had plenty of them for we were wrecking down a lot of 
industrial equipment.

Just some thought food.  Lol   Norm

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Norm,

I had one of these in my 67 Lotus Elan for the tube radio.  Not a bad
idea to hard switch the oscillator and maintain the logitudinal aspect. 
And what would you use to collect the shot after creating it?

On 11/25/2018 8:19 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> In case you were wondering where this is going, It is  very simple. 
> In July 1946, I was just in Grammar School and remember sitting in my
> Dads car and listening to the Operations Crossroads atom bomb  being
> dropped from a B-29 onto Bikini Atoll . see  
>
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_testing_at_Bikini_Atoll
>
> The radio was a Blaupunkt <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blaupunkt>
> AS 5 medium wave <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medium_wave> and
> longwave <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longwave> radio which allow
> us to listen to a live broadcast of test via short wave from the
> Pacific.  Sparked my interest in how these radios worked, thus I tore
> into one to find the vibrator tube which made the HVDC plate voltage
> needed in the vacuum tube receiver.  This was the spark that had me
> enroll into DeVry Electronics (1953) and join the Ham Club in High School.
>
> https://youtu.be/cwYH98WseG4     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp6PkRTmb8U&feature=youtu.be   Now I know how buzzers worked along with the Model T ignition coil. I had though about using this antiquated technology to make a bullet proof switch to enable a sustained pulse train to drive the ferroresonance phenomenon.  You know how a tinkerers mind works.    Hay, look, they are still available.  https://www.tubesandmore.com/products/vibrator-6-volt-4-pin-negative-ground
>
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignitron  Someone asked me about
> switching the 5 HP Neutral Spike experiment with mercury wetted
> switches.  I had plenty of them for we were wrecking down a lot of
> industrial equipment.
>
> Just some thought food.  Lol   Norm
>
> On 11/25/2018 6:44 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
>>  
>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_audio
>>
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We could try to analyze it to determine kind of energy it is first of 
all.  Then try to collect and conserve it.

On 11/25/2018 3:45 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Norm,
>
> I had one of these in my 67 Lotus Elan for the tube radio.  Not a bad 
> idea to hard switch the oscillator and maintain the logitudinal 
> aspect.  And what would you use to collect the shot after creating it?
>
> On 11/25/2018 8:19 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>> In case you were wondering where this is going, It is  very simple.  
>> In July 1946, I was just in Grammar School and remember sitting in my 
>> Dads car and listening to the Operations Crossroads atom bomb being 
>> dropped from a B-29 onto Bikini Atoll . see
>>
>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_testing_at_Bikini_Atoll
>>
>> The radio was a Blaupunkt <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blaupunkt> 
>> AS 5 medium wave <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medium_wave> and 
>> longwave <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longwave> radio which allow 
>> us to listen to a live broadcast of test via short wave from the 
>> Pacific.  Sparked my interest in how these radios worked, thus I tore 
>> into one to find the vibrator tube which made the HVDC plate voltage 
>> needed in the vacuum tube receiver. This was the spark that had me 
>> enroll into DeVry Electronics (1953) and join the Ham Club in High 
>> School.
>>
>> https://youtu.be/cwYH98WseG4      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp6PkRTmb8U&feature=youtu.be    Now I know how buzzers worked along with the Model T ignition coil. I had though about using this antiquated technology to make a bullet proof switch to enable a sustained pulse train to drive the ferroresonance phenomenon.  You know how a tinkerers mind works.    Hay, look, they are still available.https://www.tubesandmore.com/products/vibrator-6-volt-4-pin-negative-ground
>>
>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignitron Someone asked me about 
>> switching the 5 HP Neutral Spike experiment with mercury wetted 
>> switches.  I had plenty of them for we were wrecking down a lot of 
>> industrial equipment.
>>
>> Just some thought food. Lol   Norm
>>
>> On 11/25/2018 6:44 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_audio
>>>
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Shoot through

On 11/25/2018 4:44 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> Why not replace the relay with a switching transistor. Mechanical
> switches wear fast compared to a semiconductor switch. Here is an
> electronic replacement for driving the old Ford T ignition coils:
> https://www.edn.com/design/diy/4438484/Master-vibrator-replacement-for-the-Model-T---TT-Ford
>
> Wikipedia on vibrator regulators:
> https://wiki2.org/en/Vibrator_(electronic)A pair of Heathkit-brand
> vibrators manufactured by James Electronics, with octal bases. The one
> on the right has been stripped of the aluminum cap so the inner
> components can be seen.
>
> This image is from the Wikipedia article.
>
> Wikipedia on choppers or vibrators driving transformers:
> https://wiki2.org/en/Chopper_(electronics). Modern semiconductor
> switches has made vibrators obsolete.
>
> Regards
> Ole
>
>
> ---In [email protected], <nwootan@...> wrote :
>
> We could try to analyze it to determine kind of energy it is first of
> all.  Then try to collect and conserve it.
>
> On 11/25/2018 3:45 PM, Mick mkjekyll@... <mailto:mkjekyll@...>
> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
>>      
>>
>>     Norm,
>>
>>     I had one of these in my 67 Lotus Elan for the tube radio.  Not a
>>     bad idea to hard switch the oscillator and maintain the
>>     logitudinal aspect.  And what would you use to collect the shot
>>     after creating it?
>>
>>     On 11/25/2018 8:19 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>     <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>      
>>>
>>>     In case you were wondering where this is going, It is  very
>>>     simple.  In July 1946, I was just in Grammar School and remember
>>>     sitting in my Dads car and listening to the Operations
>>>     Crossroads atom bomb  being dropped from a B-29 onto Bikini
>>>     Atoll . see  
>>>
>>>     https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_testing_at_Bikini_Atoll
>>>
>>>     The radio was a Blaupunkt
>>>     <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blaupunkt> AS 5 medium wave
>>>     <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medium_wave> and longwave
>>>     <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longwave> radio which allow us
>>>     to listen to a live broadcast of test via short wave from the
>>>     Pacific.  Sparked my interest in how these radios worked, thus I
>>>     tore into one to find the vibrator tube which made the HVDC
>>>     plate voltage needed in the vacuum tube receiver.  This was the
>>>     spark that had me enroll into DeVry Electronics (1953) and join
>>>     the Ham Club in High School.
>>>
>>>     https://youtu.be/cwYH98WseG4     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp6PkRTmb8U&feature=youtu.be   Now I know how buzzers worked along with the Model T ignition coil. I had though about using this antiquated technology to make a bullet proof switch to enable a sustained pulse train to drive the ferroresonance phenomenon.  You know how a tinkerers mind works.    Hay, look, they are still available.  https://www.tubesandmore.com/products/vibrator-6-volt-4-pin-negative-ground
>>>
>>>     https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignitron  Someone asked me about
>>>     switching the 5 HP Neutral Spike experiment with mercury wetted
>>>     switches.  I had plenty of them for we were wrecking down a lot
>>>     of industrial equipment.
>>>
>>>     Just some thought food.  Lol   Norm
>>>
>>>     On 11/25/2018 6:44 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>     <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>      
>>>>     https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_audio
>>>>
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>

Hi Bob,

"What if the Arc/Spark is part of the actual process in getting more energy?"

Of course this is a possibility. Chernetsky's self-generating discharge plasma claims just that (http://rexresearch.com/chernetskii/chernetskii.htm http://rexresearch.com/chernetskii/chernetskii.htm). Also plasma tubes has some regions with negative resistance characteristic and electron tubes can strip off the electron emitting layer and use this as an energy source. But perhaps burning or consuming the materials in other ways is just as efficient?!

Personally I like the Inversion principle of W.B. Smith as he claims that this principle can take out energy from the cosmic background of space. That background is electrons and positrons according to Smith and those particles are what makes up the physical world we're part of. The trick is to mix two fields of the same kind same size and same direction to become coherent. This happens in electromagnetic coils and many other places. Take two similar coils having the same current through them. Each one represents one unit of energy or a total of two units of energy. Now put the same two coils on only one of the cores and the inductance is quadrupled when the fields are reinforcing each other. Put the same current as before through the 'new' coil and the stored energy is four times that of a single coil on the same core. I.e. that's four units of energy. The current hasn't changed. Only the space changed to share both coils. Smith never built such a device before his death as far as I know. The principle of inversion is explained in chapter ten of his book: http://www.rexresearch.com/smith/newsci~1.htm#ch10forces http://www.rexresearch.com/smith/newsci~1.htm#ch10forces

Tariel Kapanadze may use that same principle in his electronic self-runners. Dr. Andrey Melnichenko accidentally discovered that same principle when melting a microwave waveguide by having three microwave transmitters send their waves through that rectangular copper tube without having enough power to melt it. The waves became coherent and thus actually did melt the tube. Three similar waves becoming coherent is 9 times the power of a single wave.

Regards
Ole

 

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 > Why not replace the relay with a switching transistor. Mechanical switches wear fast compared to a semiconductor switch.
 
 What if the Arc/Spark is part of the actual process in getting more energy?
 
 Every O/U thing I've ever though worked usually had a Plasm or Arc/Spark.
 Usually not intentionally and the designer always wanted to get rid of it.

> Why not replace the relay with a switching transistor. Mechanical switches wear fast compared to a semiconductor switch.

What if the Arc/Spark is part of the actual process in getting more energy?

Every O/U thing I've ever though worked usually had a Plasm or Arc/Spark.
Usually not intentionally and the designer always wanted to get rid of it.

Why not replace the relay with a switching transistor. Mechanical switches wear fast compared to a semiconductor switch. Here is an electronic replacement for driving the old Ford T ignition coils: https://www.edn.com/design/diy/4438484/Master-vibrator-replacement-for-the-Model-T---TT-Ford https://www.edn.com/design/diy/4438484/Master-vibrator-replacement-for-the-Model-T---TT-Ford

Wikipedia on vibrator regulators: https://wiki2.org/en/Vibrator_(electronic) https://wiki2.org/en/Vibrator_(electronic) This image is from the Wikipedia article.

Wikipedia on choppers or vibrators driving transformers: https://wiki2.org/en/Chopper_(electronics) https://wiki2.org/en/Chopper_(electronics). Modern semiconductor switches has made vibrators obsolete.

Regards
Ole


---In [email protected], <nwootan@...> wrote :

 We could try to analyze it to determine kind of energy it is first of all.  Then try to collect and conserve it.

 On 11/25/2018 3:45 PM, Mick mkjekyll@... mailto:mkjekyll@... [EVGRAY] wrote:

   
 Norm,
 I had one of these in my 67 Lotus Elan for the tube radio.  Not a bad idea to hard switch the oscillator and maintain the logitudinal aspect.  And what would you use to collect the shot after creating it?

 On 11/25/2018 8:19 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... mailto:nwootan@... [EVGRAY] wrote:

   
 In case you were wondering where this is going, It is  very simple.  In July 1946, I was just in Grammar School and remember sitting in my Dads car and listening to the Operations Crossroads atom bomb  being dropped from a B-29 onto Bikini Atoll . see   

 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_testing_at_Bikini_Atoll https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_testing_at_Bikini_Atoll The radio was a Blaupunkt https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blaupunkt AS 5 medium wave https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medium_wave" title="Medium wave and longwave https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longwave radio which allow us to listen to a live broadcast of test via short wave from the Pacific.  Sparked my interest in how these radios worked, thus I tore into one to find the vibrator tube which made the HVDC plate voltage needed in the vacuum tube receiver.  This was the spark that had me enroll into DeVry Electronics (1953) and join the Ham Club in High School.
 https://youtu.be/cwYH98WseG4 https://youtu.be/cwYH98WseG4     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp6PkRTmb8U&feature=youtu.be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp6PkRTmb8U&feature=youtu.be   Now I know how buzzers worked along with the Model T ignition coil. I had though about using this antiquated technology to make a bullet proof switch to enable a sustained pulse train to drive the ferroresonance phenomenon.  You know how a tinkerers mind works.    Hay, look, they are still available.  https://www.tubesandmore.com/products/vibrator-6-volt-4-pin-negative-ground https://www.tubesandmore.com/products/vibrator-6-volt-4-pin-negative-ground
 

 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignitron https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignitron  Someone asked me about switching the 5 HP Neutral Spike experiment with mercury wetted switches.  I had plenty of them for we were wrecking down a lot of industrial equipment. 

 

 Just some thought food.  Lol   Norm

 

 On 11/25/2018 6:44 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... mailto:nwootan@... [EVGRAY] wrote:

   https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_audio https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_audio
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Remember to place a capacitor in parallel to the switch to limit the flyback voltage to below whatever the switch can take. Even a mechanical switch is eaten by the plasma formed and also has to be protected by some kind of voltage limiting snubber circuit if the flyback voltage gets too high.

Regards
Ole


---In [email protected], <mkjekyll@...> wrote :

 Shoot through
 
 On 11/25/2018 4:44 PM, onielsen@... mailto:onielsen@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
 
   Why not replace the relay with a switching transistor. Mechanical switches wear fast compared to a semiconductor switch. Here is an electronic replacement for driving the old Ford T ignition coils: https://www.edn.com/design/diy/4438484/Master-vibrator-replacement-for-the-Model-T---TT-Ford https://www.edn.com/design/diy/4438484/Master-vibrator-replacement-for-the-Model-T---TT-Ford
 
 Wikipedia on vibrator regulators: https://wiki2.org/en/Vibrator_(electronic) https://wiki2.org/en/Vibrator_(electronic)
 This image is from the Wikipedia article.
 
 Wikipedia on choppers or vibrators driving transformers: https://wiki2.org/en/Chopper_(electronics) https://wiki2.org/en/Chopper_(electronics). Modern semiconductor switches has made vibrators obsolete.
 
 Regards
 Ole
 
 
 ---In [email protected] mailto:[email protected], <nwootan@...> mailto:nwootan@... wrote :
 
 We could try to analyze it to determine kind of energy it is first of all.  Then try to collect and conserve it.
 
 On 11/25/2018 3:45 PM, Mick mkjekyll@... mailto:mkjekyll@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
 
   Norm,
 I had one of these in my 67 Lotus Elan for the tube radio.  Not a bad idea to hard switch the oscillator and maintain the logitudinal aspect.  And what would you use to collect the shot after creating it?
 
 On 11/25/2018 8:19 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... mailto:nwootan@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
 
   In case you were wondering where this is going, It is  very simple.  In July 1946, I was just in Grammar School and remember sitting in my Dads car and listening to the Operations Crossroads atom bomb  being dropped from a B-29 onto Bikini Atoll . see   
 
 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_testing_at_Bikini_Atoll https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_testing_at_Bikini_Atoll The radio was a Blaupunkt https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blaupunkt AS 5 medium wave https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medium_wave" title="Medium wave and longwave https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longwave radio which allow us to listen to a live broadcast of test via short wave from the Pacific.  Sparked my interest in how these radios worked, thus I tore into one to find the vibrator tube which made the HVDC plate voltage needed in the vacuum tube receiver.  This was the spark that had me enroll into DeVry Electronics (1953) and join the Ham Club in High School.
 https://youtu.be/cwYH98WseG4 https://youtu.be/cwYH98WseG4     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp6PkRTmb8U&feature=youtu.be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp6PkRTmb8U&feature=youtu.be   Now I know how buzzers worked along with the Model T ignition coil. I had though about using this antiquated technology to make a bullet proof switch to enable a sustained pulse train to drive the ferroresonance phenomenon.  You know how a tinkerers mind works.    Hay, look, they are still available.  https://www.tubesandmore.com/products/vibrator-6-volt-4-pin-negative-ground https://www.tubesandmore.com/products/vibrator-6-volt-4-pin-negative-ground
 
 
 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignitron https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignitron  Someone asked me about switching the 5 HP Neutral Spike experiment with mercury wetted switches.  I had plenty of them for we were wrecking down a lot of industrial equipment. 
 
 
 
 Just some thought food.  Lol   Norm
 
 
 
 On 11/25/2018 6:44 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... mailto:nwootan@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
 
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Norm,
Yes mate, I did a lot of stripping out of stuff in industrial setups and I kept all the mercury.  I have a good sized bottle of it but have not used it yet after 53 years of it sitting in a safe place in my workshop. But I always said to myself that I would find a use for that in the future. Just being a hoarder I guess.

George

    On Monday, 26 November 2018, 3:47:29 am AEDT, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:  
 
     
 

In case you were wondering where this is going, It is  very simple.  In July 1946, I was just in Grammar School and remember sitting in my Dads car and listening to the Operations Crossroads atom bomb  being dropped from a B-29 onto Bikini Atoll . see   
 
 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_testing_at_Bikini_Atoll 
 The radio was a Blaupunkt AS 5 medium wave and longwave radio which allow us to listen to a live broadcast of test via short wave from the Pacific.  Sparked my interest in how these radios worked, thus I tore into one to find the vibrator tube which made the HVDC plate voltage needed in the vacuum tube receiver.  This was the spark that had me enroll into DeVry Electronics (1953) and join the Ham Club in High School.
 https://youtu.be/cwYH98WseG4     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp6PkRTmb8U&feature=youtu.be   Now I know how buzzers worked along with the Model T ignition coil. I had though about using this antiquated technology to make a bullet proof switch to enable a sustained pulse train to drive the ferroresonance phenomenon.  You know how a tinkerers mind works.    Hay, look, they are still available.  https://www.tubesandmore.com/products/vibrator-6-volt-4-pin-negative-ground
 
  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignitron  Someone asked me about switching the 5 HP Neutral Spike experiment with mercury wetted switches.  I had plenty of them for we were wrecking down a lot of industrial equipment. 
  
  Just some thought food.  Lol   Norm
  
  On 11/25/2018 6:44 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
 
  
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_audio 
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OleOn the ocean, when sailing off shore, is has been reported that occasional waves are many times larger than the prevailing conditions.They are called rogue waves,  and have capsized vessels.The scientific theory seems to match the concept of coherance of waves, of a magnetic field, too.Cheers Warren

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  On Sun, 25 Nov 2018 at 9:31 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
Hi Bob,

"What if the Arc/Spark is part of the actual process in getting more energy?"

Of course this is a possibility. Chernetsky's self-generating discharge plasma claims just that (http://rexresearch.com/chernetskii/chernetskii.htm). Also plasma tubes has some regions with negative resistance characteristic and electron tubes can strip off the electron emitting layer and use this as an energy source. But perhaps burning or consuming the materials in other ways is just as efficient?!

Personally I like the Inversion principle of W.B. Smith as he claims that this principle can take out energy from the cosmic background of space. That background is electrons and positrons according to Smith and those particles are what makes up the physical world we're part of. The trick is to mix two fields of the same kind same size and same direction to become coherent. This happens in electromagnetic coils and many other places. Take two similar coils having the same current through them. Each one represents one unit of energy or a total of two units of energy. Now put the same two coils on only one of the cores and the inductance is quadrupled when the fields are reinforcing each other. Put the same current as before through the 'new' coil and the stored energy is four times that of a single coil on the same core. I.e. that's four units of energy. The current hasn't changed. Only the space changed to share both coils. Smith never built such a device before his death as far as I know. The principle of inversion is explained in chapter ten of his book: http://www.rexresearch.com/smith/newsci~1.htm#ch10forces

Tariel Kapanadze may use that same principle in his electronic self-runners. Dr. Andrey Melnichenko accidentally discovered that same principle when melting a microwave waveguide by having three microwave transmitters send their waves through that rectangular copper tube without having enough power to melt it. The waves became coherent and thus actually did melt the tube. Three similar waves becoming coherent is 9 times the power of a single wave.

Regards
Ole




---In [email protected], <bob.paddock@...> wrote :


> Why not replace the relay with a switching transistor. Mechanical switches wear fast compared to a semiconductor switch.


What if the Arc/Spark is part of the actual process in getting more energy?

Every O/U thing I've ever though worked usually had a Plasm or Arc/Spark.
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Ole, a careful study of the Anti Parallel, Magnetic Flux Annihilation 
and Reconnect Phenomenon ( https://www.nap.edu/read/10993/chapter/4#27  
) is required reading to understand that this kinetic energy conversion 
into a form of energy still foreign to our pea size brains. Modern solid 
state devices stand absolutely no chance of survival in this strange 
environment therefore I would not even suggest same.  If you actually 
saw this phenomenon happen, you would simply saw WOW.  I have witnessed 
it numerous times and know that solid state is not the answer. In my 
unidirectional DC pulse, Magnetic spark gap experiments, I used a long 
throw high amperage (DC) flash suppressed mechanical switch to fire the 
HVDC.  Learned from reading Tesla experiences in the Edison DC 
switching.  Bert & Phil used an air blown HVDC firing gap when they were 
exploding 10 ga. wire coils in their Z Pinch experiments with 25KJ cap 
discharges at 30KVDC. Also see the study of parallel flux lines which 
repel vs the anti-parallel lines which attract one another and it takes 
a critical angle to cause the collision effect. 
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/272082205_A_laboratory_study_of_asymmetric_magnetic_reconnection_in_strongly_driven_plasmas

https://aip.scitation.org/doi/10.1063/1.4917248

https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-319-26432-5_13

http://library.psfc.mit.edu/catalog/reports/2010/16ja/16ja008/16ja008_full.pdf

http://www-brs.ub.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/netahtml/HSS/Diss/TassiEmanuele/diss.pdf

This field of study requires a lot of comprehensive reading. Norm

On 11/25/2018 6:44 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Why not replace the relay with a switching transistor. Mechanical 
> switches wear fast compared to a semiconductor switch. Here is an 
> electronic replacement for driving the old Ford T ignition coils: 
> https://www.edn.com/design/diy/4438484/Master-vibrator-replacement-for-the-Model-T---TT-Ford
>
> Wikipedia on vibrator regulators: 
> https://wiki2.org/en/Vibrator_(electronic)A pair of Heathkit-brand 
> vibrators manufactured by James Electronics, with octal bases. The one 
> on the right has been stripped of the aluminum cap so the inner 
> components can be seen.
>
> This image is from the Wikipedia article.
>
> Wikipedia on choppers or vibrators driving transformers: 
> https://wiki2.org/en/Chopper_(electronics). Modern semiconductor 
> switches has made vibrators obsolete.
>
> Regards
> Ole
>
>
> ---In [email protected], <nwootan@...> wrote :
>
> We could try to analyze it to determine kind of energy it is first of 
> all.  Then try to collect and conserve it.
>
> On 11/25/2018 3:45 PM, Mick mkjekyll@... <mailto:mkjekyll@...> 
> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
>>     Norm,
>>
>>     I had one of these in my 67 Lotus Elan for the tube radio.  Not a
>>     bad idea to hard switch the oscillator and maintain the
>>     logitudinal aspect.  And what would you use to collect the shot
>>     after creating it?
>>
>>     On 11/25/2018 8:19 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>     <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>>     In case you were wondering where this is going, It is  very
>>>     simple.  In July 1946, I was just in Grammar School and remember
>>>     sitting in my Dads car and listening to the Operations
>>>     Crossroads atom bomb being dropped from a B-29 onto Bikini Atoll
>>>     . see
>>>
>>>     https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_testing_at_Bikini_Atoll
>>>
>>>     The radio was a Blaupunkt
>>>     <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blaupunkt> AS 5 medium wave
>>>     <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medium_wave> and longwave
>>>     <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longwave> radio which allow us
>>>     to listen to a live broadcast of test via short wave from the
>>>     Pacific. Sparked my interest in how these radios worked, thus I
>>>     tore into one to find the vibrator tube which made the HVDC
>>>     plate voltage needed in the vacuum tube receiver. This was the
>>>     spark that had me enroll into DeVry Electronics (1953) and join
>>>     the Ham Club in High School.
>>>
>>>     https://youtu.be/cwYH98WseG4      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp6PkRTmb8U&feature=youtu.be    Now I know how buzzers worked along with the Model T ignition coil. I had though about using this antiquated technology to make a bullet proof switch to enable a sustained pulse train to drive the ferroresonance phenomenon.  You know how a tinkerers mind works.    Hay, look, they are still available.https://www.tubesandmore.com/products/vibrator-6-volt-4-pin-negative-ground
>>>
>>>     https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignitron Someone asked me about
>>>     switching the 5 HP Neutral Spike experiment with mercury wetted
>>>     switches.  I had plenty of them for we were wrecking down a lot
>>>     of industrial equipment.
>>>
>>>     Just some thought food. Lol   Norm
>>>
>>>     On 11/25/2018 6:44 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>     <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>     https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_audio
>>>>
>>>>     Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>>>     <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>
>

Precisely, Bob Paddock.  Please read this document to understand that a 
local plasma event must occur (Arc in the gap) for the manifestation of 
this energy. Please read: 
http://www-brs.ub.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/netahtml/HSS/Diss/TassiEmanuele/diss.pdf

On 11/25/2018 7:36 PM, Bob Paddock [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> > Why not replace the relay with a switching transistor. Mechanical 
> switches wear fast compared to a semiconductor switch.
>
> What if the Arc/Spark is part of the actual process in getting more 
> energy?
>
> Every O/U thing I've ever though worked usually had a Plasm or Arc/Spark.
> Usually not intentionally and the designer always wanted to get rid of it.
>
>

Yes, clearly stated when you buy one of this vibrators.

On 11/25/2018 7:39 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Remember to place a capacitor in parallel to the switch to limit the 
> flyback voltage to below whatever the switch can take. Even a 
> mechanical switch is eaten by the plasma formed and also has to be 
> protected by some kind of voltage limiting snubber circuit if the 
> flyback voltage gets too high.
>
> Regards
> Ole
>
>
> ---In [email protected], <mkjekyll@...> wrote :
>
> Shoot through
>
> On 11/25/2018 4:44 PM, onielsen@... <mailto:onielsen@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
>>     Why not replace the relay with a switching transistor. Mechanical
>>     switches wear fast compared to a semiconductor switch. Here is an
>>     electronic replacement for driving the old Ford T ignition coils:
>>     https://www.edn.com/design/diy/4438484/Master-vibrator-replacement-for-the-Model-T---TT-Ford
>>
>>     Wikipedia on vibrator regulators:
>>     https://wiki2.org/en/Vibrator_(electronic)A pair of
>>     Heathkit-brand vibrators manufactured by James Electronics, with
>>     octal bases. The one on the right has been stripped of the
>>     aluminum cap so the inner components can be seen.
>>
>>     This image is from the Wikipedia article.
>>
>>     Wikipedia on choppers or vibrators driving transformers:
>>     https://wiki2.org/en/Chopper_(electronics). Modern semiconductor
>>     switches has made vibrators obsolete.
>>
>>     Regards
>>     Ole
>>
>>
>>     ---In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>,
>>     <nwootan@...> <mailto:nwootan@...> wrote :
>>
>>     We could try to analyze it to determine kind of energy it is
>>     first of all.  Then try to collect and conserve it.
>>
>>     On 11/25/2018 3:45 PM, Mick mkjekyll@... <mailto:mkjekyll@...>
>>     [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>>>         Norm,
>>>
>>>         I had one of these in my 67 Lotus Elan for the tube radio. 
>>>         Not a bad idea to hard switch the oscillator and maintain
>>>         the logitudinal aspect.  And what would you use to collect
>>>         the shot after creating it?
>>>
>>>         On 11/25/2018 8:19 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>         <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>
>>>>         In case you were wondering where this is going, It is  very
>>>>         simple.  In July 1946, I was just in Grammar School and
>>>>         remember sitting in my Dads car and listening to the
>>>>         Operations Crossroads atom bomb  being dropped from a B-29
>>>>         onto Bikini Atoll . see
>>>>
>>>>         https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_testing_at_Bikini_Atoll
>>>>
>>>>         The radio was a Blaupunkt
>>>>         <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blaupunkt> AS 5 medium
>>>>         wave <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medium_wave> and
>>>>         longwave <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longwave> radio
>>>>         which allow us to listen to a live broadcast of test via
>>>>         short wave from the Pacific. Sparked my interest in how
>>>>         these radios worked, thus I tore into one to find the
>>>>         vibrator tube which made the HVDC plate voltage needed in
>>>>         the vacuum tube receiver.  This was the spark that had me
>>>>         enroll into DeVry Electronics (1953) and join the Ham Club
>>>>         in High School.
>>>>
>>>>         https://youtu.be/cwYH98WseG4      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp6PkRTmb8U&feature=youtu.be    Now I know how buzzers worked along with the Model T ignition coil. I had though about using this antiquated technology to make a bullet proof switch to enable a sustained pulse train to drive the ferroresonance phenomenon.  You know how a tinkerers mind works.    Hay, look, they are still available.https://www.tubesandmore.com/products/vibrator-6-volt-4-pin-negative-ground
>>>>
>>>>         https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignitron Someone asked me
>>>>         about switching the 5 HP Neutral Spike experiment with
>>>>         mercury wetted switches.  I had plenty of them for we were
>>>>         wrecking down a lot of industrial equipment.
>>>>
>>>>         Just some thought food.  Lol   Norm
>>>>
>>>>         On 11/25/2018 6:44 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>         <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>         https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_audio
>>>>>
>>>>>         Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>>>>         <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>>
>

Yep!  George, I had boxes of plunge mercury switches and ignatrons that 
no one wanted because of the pools of mercury inside. I parted out and 
saved several hundred pounds of mercury which I gave to Bert and Phil so 
they could build their anti-gravity vehicle. Lol

On 11/25/2018 9:05 PM, george gray [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
> Norm,
>
> Yes mate, I did a lot of stripping out of stuff in industrial setups 
> and I kept all the mercury.  I have a good sized bottle of it but have 
> not used it yet after 53 years of it sitting in a safe place in my 
> workshop. But I always said to myself that I would find a use for that 
> in the future. Just being a hoarder I guess.
>
> George
>
>
> On Monday, 26 November 2018, 3:47:29 am AEDT, Norman Wootan 
> [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> In case you were wondering where this is going, It is  very simple.  
> In July 1946, I was just in Grammar School and remember sitting in my 
> Dads car and listening to the Operations Crossroads atom bomb  being 
> dropped from a B-29 onto Bikini Atoll . see
>
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_testing_at_Bikini_Atoll
>
> The radio was a Blaupunkt <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blaupunkt> 
> AS 5 medium wave <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medium_wave> and 
> longwave <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longwave> radio which allow 
> us to listen to a live broadcast of test via short wave from the 
> Pacific.  Sparked my interest in how these radios worked, thus I tore 
> into one to find the vibrator tube which made the HVDC plate voltage 
> needed in the vacuum tube receiver.  This was the spark that had me 
> enroll into DeVry Electronics (1953) and join the Ham Club in High School.
>
> https://youtu.be/cwYH98WseG4      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp6PkRTmb8U&feature=youtu.be    Now I know how buzzers worked along with the Model T ignition coil. I had though about using this antiquated technology to make a bullet proof switch to enable a sustained pulse train to drive the ferroresonance phenomenon.  You know how a tinkerers mind works.    Hay, look, they are still available.https://www.tubesandmore.com/products/vibrator-6-volt-4-pin-negative-ground
>
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignitron Someone asked me about 
> switching the 5 HP Neutral Spike experiment with mercury wetted 
> switches.  I had plenty of them for we were wrecking down a lot of 
> industrial equipment.
>
> Just some thought food.  Lol   Norm
>
> On 11/25/2018 6:44 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_audio
>>
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
>> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>

George, Interesting story about mercury as experienced by my friend Nick 
Holden, Waco,TX, who was manufacturing the C-60 carbon and higher 
Fullerines. See:

https://www.chron.com/local/history/medical-science/article/Discovery-of-Buckyballs-a-Nobel-effort-by-7939221.php

Nick developed a close relationship with Prof. Smalley (RIP) and went into the C-60 production. I built a RF plasma system using a 5KW RF power supply which I got from Texas Instruemnts salvage sales. http://www.comdel.com/high-frequency-rf-power-supplies    Made the higher fullerines and Bucky fibers.   Nick went on an expedition down into the South West New Mexico to the old abandoned mercury mines, Mercury, NM, which produced mercury needed for the WWII was effort. A full day trek via 4 wheelers with a Mexican guide brought them to an old mine. When walking inside of mine, Nick asked the Mexican why it felt like they were walking on a water bed??  The Mexican said , brush the dust off and see that you are walking on a pool of mercury.  At the time mercury was selling for $26/# so it would have taken a big 4 wheel drive vehicle to go out and retrieve enough mercury to make it worth while to explore. Lots of mercury that the Environmental people frown on.


On 11/26/2018 6:49 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>
> Yep!  George, I had boxes of plunge mercury switches and ignatrons 
> that no one wanted because of the pools of mercury inside. I parted 
> out and saved several hundred pounds of mercury which I gave to Bert 
> and Phil so they could build their anti-gravity vehicle. Lol
>
> On 11/25/2018 9:05 PM, george gray [email protected] [EVGRAY] 
> wrote:
>> Norm,
>>
>> Yes mate, I did a lot of stripping out of stuff in industrial setups 
>> and I kept all the mercury.  I have a good sized bottle of it but 
>> have not used it yet after 53 years of it sitting in a safe place in 
>> my workshop. But I always said to myself that I would find a use for 
>> that in the future. Just being a hoarder I guess.
>>
>> George
>>
>>
>> On Monday, 26 November 2018, 3:47:29 am AEDT, Norman Wootan 
>> [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> In case you were wondering where this is going, It is  very simple.  
>> In July 1946, I was just in Grammar School and remember sitting in my 
>> Dads car and listening to the Operations Crossroads atom bomb  being 
>> dropped from a B-29 onto Bikini Atoll . see
>>
>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_testing_at_Bikini_Atoll
>>
>> The radio was a Blaupunkt <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blaupunkt> 
>> AS 5 medium wave <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medium_wave> and 
>> longwave <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longwave> radio which allow 
>> us to listen to a live broadcast of test via short wave from the 
>> Pacific.  Sparked my interest in how these radios worked, thus I tore 
>> into one to find the vibrator tube which made the HVDC plate voltage 
>> needed in the vacuum tube receiver.  This was the spark that had me 
>> enroll into DeVry Electronics (1953) and join the Ham Club in High 
>> School.
>>
>> https://youtu.be/cwYH98WseG4      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp6PkRTmb8U&feature=youtu.be    Now I know how buzzers worked along with the Model T ignition coil. I had though about using this antiquated technology to make a bullet proof switch to enable a sustained pulse train to drive the ferroresonance phenomenon.  You know how a tinkerers mind works.    Hay, look, they are still available.https://www.tubesandmore.com/products/vibrator-6-volt-4-pin-negative-ground
>>
>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignitron Someone asked me about 
>> switching the 5 HP Neutral Spike experiment with mercury wetted 
>> switches.  I had plenty of them for we were wrecking down a lot of 
>> industrial equipment.
>>
>> Just some thought food.  Lol   Norm
>>
>> On 11/25/2018 6:44 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_audio
>>>
>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
>>> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>>

https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/articles/12-million-volts There 
was a very sad conclusion to all of Golka's research for I had to scrap 
down all of this Leadville Project which by many weird trun of events 
wound up on my Research farm in two 50 ft. semi trailers.

On 11/26/2018 7:39 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> George, Interesting story about mercury as experienced by my friend 
> Nick Holden, Waco,TX, who was manufacturing the C-60 carbon and higher 
> Fullerines. See:
>
> https://www.chron.com/local/history/medical-science/article/Discovery-of-Buckyballs-a-Nobel-effort-by-7939221.php
>
> Nick developed a close relationship with Prof. Smalley (RIP) and went into the C-60 production. I built a RF plasma system using a 5KW RF power supply which I got from Texas Instruemnts salvage sales.http://www.comdel.com/high-frequency-rf-power-supplies     Made the higher fullerines and Bucky fibers.   Nick went on an expedition down into the South West New Mexico to the old abandoned mercury mines, Mercury, NM, which produced mercury needed for the WWII was effort. A full day trek via 4 wheelers with a Mexican guide brought them to an old mine. When walking inside of mine, Nick asked the Mexican why it felt like they were walking on a water bed??  The Mexican said , brush the dust off and see that you are walking on a pool of mercury.  At the time mercury was selling for $26/# so it would have taken a big 4 wheel drive vehicle to go out and retrieve enough mercury to make it worth while to explore. Lots of mercury that the Environmental people frown on.
>
>
> On 11/26/2018 6:49 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>
>> Yep!  George, I had boxes of plunge mercury switches and ignatrons 
>> that no one wanted because of the pools of mercury inside. I parted 
>> out and saved several hundred pounds of mercury which I gave to Bert 
>> and Phil so they could build their anti-gravity vehicle. Lol
>>
>> On 11/25/2018 9:05 PM, george gray [email protected] [EVGRAY] 
>> wrote:
>>> Norm,
>>>
>>> Yes mate, I did a lot of stripping out of stuff in industrial setups 
>>> and I kept all the mercury. I have a good sized bottle of it but 
>>> have not used it yet after 53 years of it sitting in a safe place in 
>>> my workshop. But I always said to myself that I would find a use for 
>>> that in the future. Just being a hoarder I guess.
>>>
>>> George
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, 26 November 2018, 3:47:29 am AEDT, Norman Wootan 
>>> [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> In case you were wondering where this is going, It is  very simple. 
>>> In July 1946, I was just in Grammar School and remember sitting in 
>>> my Dads car and listening to the Operations Crossroads atom bomb 
>>> being dropped from a B-29 onto Bikini Atoll . see
>>>
>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_testing_at_Bikini_Atoll
>>>
>>> The radio was a Blaupunkt 
>>> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blaupunkt> AS 5 medium wave 
>>> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medium_wave> and longwave 
>>> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longwave> radio which allow us to 
>>> listen to a live broadcast of test via short wave from the Pacific.  
>>> Sparked my interest in how these radios worked, thus I tore into one 
>>> to find the vibrator tube which made the HVDC plate voltage needed 
>>> in the vacuum tube receiver.  This was the spark that had me enroll 
>>> into DeVry Electronics (1953) and join the Ham Club in High School.
>>>
>>> https://youtu.be/cwYH98WseG4      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp6PkRTmb8U&feature=youtu.be    Now I know how buzzers worked along with the Model T ignition coil. I had though about using this antiquated technology to make a bullet proof switch to enable a sustained pulse train to drive the ferroresonance phenomenon.  You know how a tinkerers mind works.    Hay, look, they are still available.https://www.tubesandmore.com/products/vibrator-6-volt-4-pin-negative-ground
>>>
>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignitron Someone asked me about 
>>> switching the 5 HP Neutral Spike experiment with mercury wetted 
>>> switches.  I had plenty of them for we were wrecking down a lot of 
>>> industrial equipment.
>>>
>>> Just some thought food.  Lol   Norm
>>>
>>> On 11/25/2018 6:44 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_audio
>>>>
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>

The original Smalley Patented C-60 production chamber that Nick burned 
carbon rods by the thousands and them sorted the soot via Chromatography 
columns with toluene and vacuum rotovaps. See attached!

On 11/26/2018 7:39 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>
> George, Interesting story about mercury as experienced by my friend 
> Nick Holden, Waco,TX, who was manufacturing the C-60 carbon and higher 
> Fullerines. See:
>
> https://www.chron.com/local/history/medical-science/article/Discovery-of-Buckyballs-a-Nobel-effort-by-7939221.php
>
> Nick developed a close relationship with Prof. Smalley (RIP) and went into the C-60 production. I built a RF plasma system using a 5KW RF power supply which I got from Texas Instruemnts salvage sales.http://www.comdel.com/high-frequency-rf-power-supplies     Made the higher fullerines and Bucky fibers.   Nick went on an expedition down into the South West New Mexico to the old abandoned mercury mines, Mercury, NM, which produced mercury needed for the WWII was effort. A full day trek via 4 wheelers with a Mexican guide brought them to an old mine. When walking inside of mine, Nick asked the Mexican why it felt like they were walking on a water bed??  The Mexican said , brush the dust off and see that you are walking on a pool of mercury.  At the time mercury was selling for $26/# so it would have taken a big 4 wheel drive vehicle to go out and retrieve enough mercury to make it worth while to explore. Lots of mercury that the Environmental people frown on.
>
>
> On 11/26/2018 6:49 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>
>> Yep!  George, I had boxes of plunge mercury switches and ignatrons 
>> that no one wanted because of the pools of mercury inside. I parted 
>> out and saved several hundred pounds of mercury which I gave to Bert 
>> and Phil so they could build their anti-gravity vehicle. Lol
>>
>> On 11/25/2018 9:05 PM, george gray [email protected] [EVGRAY] 
>> wrote:
>>> Norm,
>>>
>>> Yes mate, I did a lot of stripping out of stuff in industrial setups 
>>> and I kept all the mercury.  I have a good sized bottle of it but 
>>> have not used it yet after 53 years of it sitting in a safe place in 
>>> my workshop. But I always said to myself that I would find a use for 
>>> that in the future. Just being a hoarder I guess.
>>>
>>> George
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, 26 November 2018, 3:47:29 am AEDT, Norman Wootan 
>>> [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> In case you were wondering where this is going, It is  very simple.  
>>> In July 1946, I was just in Grammar School and remember sitting in 
>>> my Dads car and listening to the Operations Crossroads atom bomb  
>>> being dropped from a B-29 onto Bikini Atoll . see
>>>
>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_testing_at_Bikini_Atoll
>>>
>>> The radio was a Blaupunkt 
>>> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blaupunkt> AS 5 medium wave 
>>> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medium_wave> and longwave 
>>> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longwave> radio which allow us to 
>>> listen to a live broadcast of test via short wave from the Pacific.  
>>> Sparked my interest in how these radios worked, thus I tore into one 
>>> to find the vibrator tube which made the HVDC plate voltage needed 
>>> in the vacuum tube receiver. This was the spark that had me enroll 
>>> into DeVry Electronics (1953) and join the Ham Club in High School.
>>>
>>> https://youtu.be/cwYH98WseG4      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp6PkRTmb8U&feature=youtu.be    Now I know how buzzers worked along with the Model T ignition coil. I had though about using this antiquated technology to make a bullet proof switch to enable a sustained pulse train to drive the ferroresonance phenomenon.  You know how a tinkerers mind works.    Hay, look, they are still available.https://www.tubesandmore.com/products/vibrator-6-volt-4-pin-negative-ground
>>>
>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignitron Someone asked me about 
>>> switching the 5 HP Neutral Spike experiment with mercury wetted 
>>> switches.  I had plenty of them for we were wrecking down a lot of 
>>> industrial equipment.
>>>
>>> Just some thought food.  Lol   Norm
>>>
>>> On 11/25/2018 6:44 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_audio
>>>>
>>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
>>>> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>>>

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Smalley

On 11/26/2018 8:37 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>
> The original Smalley Patented C-60 production chamber that Nick burned 
> carbon rods by the thousands and them sorted the soot via 
> Chromatography columns with toluene and vacuum rotovaps. See attached!
>
> On 11/26/2018 7:39 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>
>> George, Interesting story about mercury as experienced by my friend 
>> Nick Holden, Waco,TX, who was manufacturing the C-60 carbon and 
>> higher Fullerines. See:
>>
>> https://www.chron.com/local/history/medical-science/article/Discovery-of-Buckyballs-a-Nobel-effort-by-7939221.php
>>
>> Nick developed a close relationship with Prof. Smalley (RIP) and went into the C-60 production. I built a RF plasma system using a 5KW RF power supply which I got from Texas Instruemnts salvage sales.http://www.comdel.com/high-frequency-rf-power-supplies     Made the higher fullerines and Bucky fibers.   Nick went on an expedition down into the South West New Mexico to the old abandoned mercury mines, Mercury, NM, which produced mercury needed for the WWII was effort. A full day trek via 4 wheelers with a Mexican guide brought them to an old mine. When walking inside of mine, Nick asked the Mexican why it felt like they were walking on a water bed??  The Mexican said , brush the dust off and see that you are walking on a pool of mercury.  At the time mercury was selling for $26/# so it would have taken a big 4 wheel drive vehicle to go out and retrieve enough mercury to make it worth while to explore. Lots of mercury that the Environmental people frown on.
>>
>>
>> On 11/26/2018 6:49 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>
>>> Yep!  George, I had boxes of plunge mercury switches and ignatrons 
>>> that no one wanted because of the pools of mercury inside. I parted 
>>> out and saved several hundred pounds of mercury which I gave to Bert 
>>> and Phil so they could build their anti-gravity vehicle. Lol
>>>
>>> On 11/25/2018 9:05 PM, george gray [email protected] 
>>> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>> Norm,
>>>>
>>>> Yes mate, I did a lot of stripping out of stuff in industrial 
>>>> setups and I kept all the mercury. I have a good sized bottle of it 
>>>> but have not used it yet after 53 years of it sitting in a safe 
>>>> place in my workshop. But I always said to myself that I would find 
>>>> a use for that in the future. Just being a hoarder I guess.
>>>>
>>>> George
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, 26 November 2018, 3:47:29 am AEDT, Norman Wootan 
>>>> [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In case you were wondering where this is going, It is  very simple. 
>>>> In July 1946, I was just in Grammar School and remember sitting in 
>>>> my Dads car and listening to the Operations Crossroads atom bomb 
>>>> being dropped from a B-29 onto Bikini Atoll . see
>>>>
>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_testing_at_Bikini_Atoll
>>>>
>>>> The radio was a Blaupunkt 
>>>> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blaupunkt> AS 5 medium wave 
>>>> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medium_wave> and longwave 
>>>> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longwave> radio which allow us to 
>>>> listen to a live broadcast of test via short wave from the 
>>>> Pacific.  Sparked my interest in how these radios worked, thus I 
>>>> tore into one to find the vibrator tube which made the HVDC plate 
>>>> voltage needed in the vacuum tube receiver.  This was the spark 
>>>> that had me enroll into DeVry Electronics (1953) and join the Ham 
>>>> Club in High School.
>>>>
>>>> https://youtu.be/cwYH98WseG4      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp6PkRTmb8U&feature=youtu.be    Now I know how buzzers worked along with the Model T ignition coil. I had though about using this antiquated technology to make a bullet proof switch to enable a sustained pulse train to drive the ferroresonance phenomenon.  You know how a tinkerers mind works.    Hay, look, they are still available.https://www.tubesandmore.com/products/vibrator-6-volt-4-pin-negative-ground
>>>>
>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignitron Someone asked me about 
>>>> switching the 5 HP Neutral Spike experiment with mercury wetted 
>>>> switches.  I had plenty of them for we were wrecking down a lot of 
>>>> industrial equipment.
>>>>
>>>> Just some thought food.  Lol   Norm
>>>>
>>>> On 11/25/2018 6:44 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] 
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_audio
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
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>>>>

Ole, see attached:

On 11/26/2018 6:32 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Ole, a careful study of the Anti Parallel, Magnetic Flux Annihilation 
> and Reconnect Phenomenon ( https://www.nap.edu/read/10993/chapter/4#27 
> ) is required reading to understand that this kinetic energy 
> conversion into a form of energy still foreign to our pea size brains. 
> Modern solid state devices stand absolutely no chance of survival in 
> this strange environment therefore I would not even suggest same.  If 
> you actually saw this phenomenon happen, you would simply saw WOW.  I 
> have witnessed it numerous times and know that solid state is not the 
> answer. In my unidirectional DC pulse, Magnetic spark gap experiments, 
> I used a long throw high amperage (DC) flash suppressed mechanical 
> switch to fire the HVDC.  Learned from reading Tesla experiences in 
> the Edison DC switching.  Bert & Phil used an air blown HVDC firing 
> gap when they were exploding 10 ga. wire coils in their Z Pinch 
> experiments with 25KJ cap discharges at 30KVDC. Also see the study of 
> parallel flux lines which repel vs the anti-parallel lines which 
> attract one another and it takes a critical angle to cause the 
> collision effect. 
> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/272082205_A_laboratory_study_of_asymmetric_magnetic_reconnection_in_strongly_driven_plasmas
>
> https://aip.scitation.org/doi/10.1063/1.4917248
>
> https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-319-26432-5_13
>
> http://library.psfc.mit.edu/catalog/reports/2010/16ja/16ja008/16ja008_full.pdf
>
> http://www-brs.ub.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/netahtml/HSS/Diss/TassiEmanuele/diss.pdf
>
> This field of study requires a lot of comprehensive reading.   Norm
>
> On 11/25/2018 6:44 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>> Why not replace the relay with a switching transistor. Mechanical 
>> switches wear fast compared to a semiconductor switch. Here is an 
>> electronic replacement for driving the old Ford T ignition coils: 
>> https://www.edn.com/design/diy/4438484/Master-vibrator-replacement-for-the-Model-T---TT-Ford
>>
>> Wikipedia on vibrator regulators: 
>> https://wiki2.org/en/Vibrator_(electronic)A pair of Heathkit-brand 
>> vibrators manufactured by James Electronics, with octal bases. The 
>> one on the right has been stripped of the aluminum cap so the inner 
>> components can be seen.
>>
>> This image is from the Wikipedia article.
>>
>> Wikipedia on choppers or vibrators driving transformers: 
>> https://wiki2.org/en/Chopper_(electronics). Modern semiconductor 
>> switches has made vibrators obsolete.
>>
>> Regards
>> Ole
>>
>>
>> ---In [email protected], <nwootan@...> wrote :
>>
>> We could try to analyze it to determine kind of energy it is first of 
>> all.  Then try to collect and conserve it.
>>
>> On 11/25/2018 3:45 PM, Mick mkjekyll@... <mailto:mkjekyll@...> 
>> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>>>     Norm,
>>>
>>>     I had one of these in my 67 Lotus Elan for the tube radio.  Not
>>>     a bad idea to hard switch the oscillator and maintain the
>>>     logitudinal aspect.  And what would you use to collect the shot
>>>     after creating it?
>>>
>>>     On 11/25/2018 8:19 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>     <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     In case you were wondering where this is going, It is  very
>>>>     simple.  In July 1946, I was just in Grammar School and
>>>>     remember sitting in my Dads car and listening to the Operations
>>>>     Crossroads atom bomb  being dropped from a B-29 onto Bikini
>>>>     Atoll . see
>>>>
>>>>     https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_testing_at_Bikini_Atoll
>>>>
>>>>     The radio was a Blaupunkt
>>>>     <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blaupunkt> AS 5 medium wave
>>>>     <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medium_wave> and longwave
>>>>     <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longwave> radio which allow us
>>>>     to listen to a live broadcast of test via short wave from the
>>>>     Pacific.  Sparked my interest in how these radios worked, thus
>>>>     I tore into one to find the vibrator tube which made the HVDC
>>>>     plate voltage needed in the vacuum tube receiver. This was the
>>>>     spark that had me enroll into DeVry Electronics (1953) and join
>>>>     the Ham Club in High School.
>>>>
>>>>     https://youtu.be/cwYH98WseG4      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp6PkRTmb8U&feature=youtu.be    Now I know how buzzers worked along with the Model T ignition coil. I had though about using this antiquated technology to make a bullet proof switch to enable a sustained pulse train to drive the ferroresonance phenomenon.  You know how a tinkerers mind works.    Hay, look, they are still available.https://www.tubesandmore.com/products/vibrator-6-volt-4-pin-negative-ground
>>>>
>>>>     https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignitron Someone asked me about
>>>>     switching the 5 HP Neutral Spike experiment with mercury wetted
>>>>     switches.  I had plenty of them for we were wrecking down a lot
>>>>     of industrial equipment.
>>>>
>>>>     Just some thought food.  Lol   Norm
>>>>
>>>>     On 11/25/2018 6:44 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>     <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>     https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_audio
>>>>>
>>>>>     Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
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>>
>