Re: Neutral Spike Re: [EVGRAY] Vehicle audio - Wikipedia

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2018-11-26T06:46:04-06:00
Norman Wootan <[email protected]>

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Yes, clearly stated when you buy one of this vibrators.

On 11/25/2018 7:39 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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> Remember to place a capacitor in parallel to the switch to limit the 
> flyback voltage to below whatever the switch can take. Even a 
> mechanical switch is eaten by the plasma formed and also has to be 
> protected by some kind of voltage limiting snubber circuit if the 
> flyback voltage gets too high.
>
> Regards
> Ole
>
>
> ---In [email protected], <mkjekyll@...> wrote :
>
> Shoot through
>
> On 11/25/2018 4:44 PM, onielsen@... <mailto:onielsen@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>>     Why not replace the relay with a switching transistor. Mechanical
>>     switches wear fast compared to a semiconductor switch. Here is an
>>     electronic replacement for driving the old Ford T ignition coils:
>>     https://www.edn.com/design/diy/4438484/Master-vibrator-replacement-for-the-Model-T---TT-Ford
>>
>>     Wikipedia on vibrator regulators:
>>     https://wiki2.org/en/Vibrator_(electronic)A pair of
>>     Heathkit-brand vibrators manufactured by James Electronics, with
>>     octal bases. The one on the right has been stripped of the
>>     aluminum cap so the inner components can be seen.
>>
>>     This image is from the Wikipedia article.
>>
>>     Wikipedia on choppers or vibrators driving transformers:
>>     https://wiki2.org/en/Chopper_(electronics). Modern semiconductor
>>     switches has made vibrators obsolete.
>>
>>     Regards
>>     Ole
>>
>>
>>     ---In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>,
>>     <nwootan@...> <mailto:nwootan@...> wrote :
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>>     We could try to analyze it to determine kind of energy it is
>>     first of all.  Then try to collect and conserve it.
>>
>>     On 11/25/2018 3:45 PM, Mick mkjekyll@... <mailto:mkjekyll@...>
>>     [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>>>         Norm,
>>>
>>>         I had one of these in my 67 Lotus Elan for the tube radio. 
>>>         Not a bad idea to hard switch the oscillator and maintain
>>>         the logitudinal aspect.  And what would you use to collect
>>>         the shot after creating it?
>>>
>>>         On 11/25/2018 8:19 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>         <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>
>>>>         In case you were wondering where this is going, It is  very
>>>>         simple.  In July 1946, I was just in Grammar School and
>>>>         remember sitting in my Dads car and listening to the
>>>>         Operations Crossroads atom bomb  being dropped from a B-29
>>>>         onto Bikini Atoll . see
>>>>
>>>>         https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_testing_at_Bikini_Atoll
>>>>
>>>>         The radio was a Blaupunkt
>>>>         <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blaupunkt> AS 5 medium
>>>>         wave <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medium_wave> and
>>>>         longwave <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longwave> radio
>>>>         which allow us to listen to a live broadcast of test via
>>>>         short wave from the Pacific. Sparked my interest in how
>>>>         these radios worked, thus I tore into one to find the
>>>>         vibrator tube which made the HVDC plate voltage needed in
>>>>         the vacuum tube receiver.  This was the spark that had me
>>>>         enroll into DeVry Electronics (1953) and join the Ham Club
>>>>         in High School.
>>>>
>>>>         https://youtu.be/cwYH98WseG4      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp6PkRTmb8U&feature=youtu.be    Now I know how buzzers worked along with the Model T ignition coil. I had though about using this antiquated technology to make a bullet proof switch to enable a sustained pulse train to drive the ferroresonance phenomenon.  You know how a tinkerers mind works.    Hay, look, they are still available.https://www.tubesandmore.com/products/vibrator-6-volt-4-pin-negative-ground
>>>>
>>>>         https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignitron Someone asked me
>>>>         about switching the 5 HP Neutral Spike experiment with
>>>>         mercury wetted switches.  I had plenty of them for we were
>>>>         wrecking down a lot of industrial equipment.
>>>>
>>>>         Just some thought food.  Lol   Norm
>>>>
>>>>         On 11/25/2018 6:44 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>         <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>         https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_audio
>>>>>
>>>>>         Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
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