Neutral Spike Re: [EVGRAY] Vehicle audio - Wikipedia

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On 11/26/2018 9:44 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>
> Ole, see attached:
>
> On 11/26/2018 6:32 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>> Ole, a careful study of the Anti Parallel, Magnetic Flux Annihilation 
>> and Reconnect Phenomenon ( 
>> https://www.nap.edu/read/10993/chapter/4#27 ) is required reading to 
>> understand that this kinetic energy conversion into a form of energy 
>> still foreign to our pea size brains. Modern solid state devices 
>> stand absolutely no chance of survival in this strange environment 
>> therefore I would not even suggest same.  If you actually saw this 
>> phenomenon happen, you would simply saw WOW.  I have witnessed it 
>> numerous times and know that solid state is not the answer. In my 
>> unidirectional DC pulse, Magnetic spark gap experiments, I used a 
>> long throw high amperage (DC) flash suppressed mechanical switch to 
>> fire the HVDC.  Learned from reading Tesla experiences in the Edison 
>> DC switching. Bert & Phil used an air blown HVDC firing gap when they 
>> were exploding 10 ga. wire coils in their Z Pinch experiments with 
>> 25KJ cap discharges at 30KVDC. Also see the study of parallel flux 
>> lines which repel vs the anti-parallel lines which attract one 
>> another and it takes a critical angle to cause the collision effect. 
>> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/272082205_A_laboratory_study_of_asymmetric_magnetic_reconnection_in_strongly_driven_plasmas
>>
>> https://aip.scitation.org/doi/10.1063/1.4917248
>>
>> https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-319-26432-5_13
>>
>> http://library.psfc.mit.edu/catalog/reports/2010/16ja/16ja008/16ja008_full.pdf
>>
>> http://www-brs.ub.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/netahtml/HSS/Diss/TassiEmanuele/diss.pdf
>>
>> This field of study requires a lot of comprehensive reading.   Norm
>>
>> On 11/25/2018 6:44 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>> Why not replace the relay with a switching transistor. Mechanical 
>>> switches wear fast compared to a semiconductor switch. Here is an 
>>> electronic replacement for driving the old Ford T ignition coils: 
>>> https://www.edn.com/design/diy/4438484/Master-vibrator-replacement-for-the-Model-T---TT-Ford
>>>
>>> Wikipedia on vibrator regulators: 
>>> https://wiki2.org/en/Vibrator_(electronic)A pair of Heathkit-brand 
>>> vibrators manufactured by James Electronics, with octal bases. The 
>>> one on the right has been stripped of the aluminum cap so the inner 
>>> components can be seen.
>>>
>>> This image is from the Wikipedia article.
>>>
>>> Wikipedia on choppers or vibrators driving transformers: 
>>> https://wiki2.org/en/Chopper_(electronics). Modern semiconductor 
>>> switches has made vibrators obsolete.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Ole
>>>
>>>
>>> ---In [email protected], <nwootan@...> wrote :
>>>
>>> We could try to analyze it to determine kind of energy it is first 
>>> of all.  Then try to collect and conserve it.
>>>
>>> On 11/25/2018 3:45 PM, Mick mkjekyll@... <mailto:mkjekyll@...> 
>>> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>>>     Norm,
>>>>
>>>>     I had one of these in my 67 Lotus Elan for the tube radio.  Not
>>>>     a bad idea to hard switch the oscillator and maintain the
>>>>     logitudinal aspect.  And what would you use to collect the shot
>>>>     after creating it?
>>>>
>>>>     On 11/25/2018 8:19 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>     <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>     In case you were wondering where this is going, It is  very
>>>>>     simple. In July 1946, I was just in Grammar School and
>>>>>     remember sitting in my Dads car and listening to the
>>>>>     Operations Crossroads atom bomb being dropped from a B-29 onto
>>>>>     Bikini Atoll . see
>>>>>
>>>>>     https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_testing_at_Bikini_Atoll
>>>>>
>>>>>     The radio was a Blaupunkt
>>>>>     <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blaupunkt> AS 5 medium wave
>>>>>     <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medium_wave> and longwave
>>>>>     <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longwave> radio which allow
>>>>>     us to listen to a live broadcast of test via short wave from
>>>>>     the Pacific.  Sparked my interest in how these radios worked,
>>>>>     thus I tore into one to find the vibrator tube which made the
>>>>>     HVDC plate voltage needed in the vacuum tube receiver.  This
>>>>>     was the spark that had me enroll into DeVry Electronics (1953)
>>>>>     and join the Ham Club in High School.
>>>>>
>>>>>     https://youtu.be/cwYH98WseG4      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp6PkRTmb8U&feature=youtu.be    Now I know how buzzers worked along with the Model T ignition coil. I had though about using this antiquated technology to make a bullet proof switch to enable a sustained pulse train to drive the ferroresonance phenomenon.  You know how a tinkerers mind works.    Hay, look, they are still available.https://www.tubesandmore.com/products/vibrator-6-volt-4-pin-negative-ground
>>>>>
>>>>>     https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignitron Someone asked me
>>>>>     about switching the 5 HP Neutral Spike experiment with mercury
>>>>>     wetted switches.  I had plenty of them for we were wrecking
>>>>>     down a lot of industrial equipment.
>>>>>
>>>>>     Just some thought food.  Lol   Norm
>>>>>
>>>>>     On 11/25/2018 6:44 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>>     <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>     https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_audio
>>>>>>
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Hi Norm,

This paper is one of your excellent references.

I would like to replicate the events through the plasma that I achieved
as it creates a huge magnetic pulse that can be harvested but as you say
gets to kill the solid state stuff as if the TVS diodes were not even
there. At least the ferroresonant amplification without the plasma gap
just cooks the TVS diodes like popcorn even though rated at 1000 amps
with only about 2 amp 23v input, but spared the rest, I guess it chose
at the diodes to manifest.  Oh yeah the ferrotranny was connected with
30 guage wire wrap wire when the 1000 amps TVS diodes exploded from 46w
and wire was fine. Have not built the tube circuits yet just working on
the solid state grid control circuits first then plan to decouple with
something similar to cascode so hopefully the superfast gate driver does
not cook. 

Not sure if Ole's snubber network would stop the event but have the
feeling so since caps will suppress the rise time and kill ringing, but
have not tried so can't say.  Seems to me the event is created right at
the switch and the rise in voltage is like the inertia x acceleration
before the end of a whip cracks and necessary. 


"Why does death need time?  Death needs time for what it kills to grow in."


On 11/26/2018 4:44 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> Precisely, Bob Paddock.  Please read this document to understand that
> a local plasma event must occur (Arc in the gap) for the manifestation
> of this energy. Please read:  
> http://www-brs.ub.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/netahtml/HSS/Diss/TassiEmanuele/diss.pdf
>
> On 11/25/2018 7:36 PM, Bob Paddock [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>  
>>
>> > Why not replace the relay with a switching transistor. Mechanical
>> switches wear fast compared to a semiconductor switch.
>>
>> What if the Arc/Spark is part of the actual process in getting more
>> energy?
>>
>> Every O/U thing I've ever though worked usually had a Plasm or Arc/Spark.
>> Usually not intentionally and the designer always wanted to get rid
>> of it.
>>
>

Back in 1984, talked to John and ordered his famous Tesla Switch plans 
and built same!  See: attached

On 11/26/2018 8:32 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/articles/12-million-volts There 
> was a very sad conclusion to all of Golka's research for I had to 
> scrap down all of this Leadville Project which by many weird trun of 
> events wound up on my Research farm in two 50 ft. semi trailers.
>
> On 11/26/2018 7:39 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>> George, Interesting story about mercury as experienced by my friend 
>> Nick Holden, Waco,TX, who was manufacturing the C-60 carbon and 
>> higher Fullerines. See:
>>
>> https://www.chron.com/local/history/medical-science/article/Discovery-of-Buckyballs-a-Nobel-effort-by-7939221.php
>>
>> Nick developed a close relationship with Prof. Smalley (RIP) and went into the C-60 production. I built a RF plasma system using a 5KW RF power supply which I got from Texas Instruemnts salvage sales.http://www.comdel.com/high-frequency-rf-power-supplies     Made the higher fullerines and Bucky fibers.   Nick went on an expedition down into the South West New Mexico to the old abandoned mercury mines, Mercury, NM, which produced mercury needed for the WWII was effort. A full day trek via 4 wheelers with a Mexican guide brought them to an old mine. When walking inside of mine, Nick asked the Mexican why it felt like they were walking on a water bed??  The Mexican said , brush the dust off and see that you are walking on a pool of mercury.  At the time mercury was selling for $26/# so it would have taken a big 4 wheel drive vehicle to go out and retrieve enough mercury to make it worth while to explore. Lots of mercury that the Environmental people frown on.
>>
>>
>> On 11/26/2018 6:49 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>
>>> Yep!  George, I had boxes of plunge mercury switches and ignatrons 
>>> that no one wanted because of the pools of mercury inside. I parted 
>>> out and saved several hundred pounds of mercury which I gave to Bert 
>>> and Phil so they could build their anti-gravity vehicle. Lol
>>>
>>> On 11/25/2018 9:05 PM, george gray [email protected] 
>>> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>> Norm,
>>>>
>>>> Yes mate, I did a lot of stripping out of stuff in industrial 
>>>> setups and I kept all the mercury.  I have a good sized bottle of 
>>>> it but have not used it yet after 53 years of it sitting in a safe 
>>>> place in my workshop. But I always said to myself that I would find 
>>>> a use for that in the future. Just being a hoarder I guess.
>>>>
>>>> George
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, 26 November 2018, 3:47:29 am AEDT, Norman Wootan 
>>>> [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In case you were wondering where this is going, It is  very 
>>>> simple.  In July 1946, I was just in Grammar School and remember 
>>>> sitting in my Dads car and listening to the Operations Crossroads 
>>>> atom bomb  being dropped from a B-29 onto Bikini Atoll . see
>>>>
>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_testing_at_Bikini_Atoll
>>>>
>>>> The radio was a Blaupunkt 
>>>> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blaupunkt> AS 5 medium wave 
>>>> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medium_wave> and longwave 
>>>> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longwave> radio which allow us to 
>>>> listen to a live broadcast of test via short wave from the Pacific. 
>>>> Sparked my interest in how these radios worked, thus I tore into 
>>>> one to find the vibrator tube which made the HVDC plate voltage 
>>>> needed in the vacuum tube receiver.  This was the spark that had me 
>>>> enroll into DeVry Electronics (1953) and join the Ham Club in High 
>>>> School.
>>>>
>>>> https://youtu.be/cwYH98WseG4      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp6PkRTmb8U&feature=youtu.be    Now I know how buzzers worked along with the Model T ignition coil. I had though about using this antiquated technology to make a bullet proof switch to enable a sustained pulse train to drive the ferroresonance phenomenon.  You know how a tinkerers mind works.    Hay, look, they are still available.https://www.tubesandmore.com/products/vibrator-6-volt-4-pin-negative-ground
>>>>
>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignitron Someone asked me about 
>>>> switching the 5 HP Neutral Spike experiment with mercury wetted 
>>>> switches.  I had plenty of them for we were wrecking down a lot of 
>>>> industrial equipment.
>>>>
>>>> Just some thought food.  Lol   Norm
>>>>
>>>> On 11/25/2018 6:44 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] 
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_audio
>>>>>
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>

Hi Warren,

Ocean waves just rides through each other by crossing on top of each other. That's also what happens when crossing two beams of light. This is superposition (https://wiki2.org/en/Superposition_principle https://wiki2.org/en/Superposition_principle) where the energy just adds up. For coherence (https://wiki2.org/en/Coherence_(physics) https://wiki2.org/en/Coherence_(physics)) the single waves are mixed into just one wave which is how the energy becomes more than when just adding up the energy of each single wave. This is like a LASER beam where each single wave merges to become one single coherent wave that doesn't split apart.

The trick is to input the single waves then mix them into a coherent wave before using the energy. This happens in LASERs. When the wave is coherent it doesn't split up into the components forming it. Waves formed by superposition splits up after riding through each other to become the initial single waves after the passage.

Regards
Ole
 

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 Ole On the ocean, when sailing off shore, is has been reported that occasional waves are many times larger than the prevailing conditions.
 They are called rogue waves,  and have capsized vessels.
 The scientific theory seems to match the concept of coherance of waves, of a magnetic field, too.
 Cheers Warren

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 On Sun, 25 Nov 2018 at 9:31 PM, onielsen@... [EVGRAY]
 <[email protected]> wrote:

   Hi Bob,

"What if the Arc/Spark is part of the actual process in getting more energy?"

Of course this is a possibility. Chernetsky's self-generating discharge plasma claims just that (http://rexresearch.com/chernetskii/chernetskii.htm http://rexresearch.com/chernetskii/chernetskii.htm). Also plasma tubes has some regions with negative resistance characteristic and electron tubes can strip off the electron emitting layer and use this as an energy source. But perhaps burning or consuming the materials in other ways is just as efficient?!

Personally I like the Inversion principle of W.B. Smith as he claims that this principle can take out energy from the cosmic background of space. That background is electrons and positrons according to Smith and those particles are what makes up the physical world we're part of. The trick is to mix two fields of the same kind same size and same direction to become coherent. This happens in electromagnetic coils and many other places. Take two similar coils having the same current through them. Each one represents one unit of energy or a total of two units of energy. Now put the same two coils on only one of the cores and the inductance is quadrupled when the fields are reinforcing each other. Put the same current as before through the 'new' coil and the stored energy is four times that of a single coil on the same core. I.e. that's four units of energy. The current hasn't changed. Only the space changed to share both coils. Smith never built such a device before his death as far as I know. The principle of inversion is explained in chapter ten of his book: http://www.rexresearch.com/smith/newsci~1.htm#ch10forces http://www.rexresearch.com/smith/newsci~1.htm#ch10forces

Tariel Kapanadze may use that same principle in his electronic self-runners. Dr. Andrey Melnichenko accidentally discovered that same principle when melting a microwave waveguide by having three microwave transmitters send their waves through that rectangular copper tube without having enough power to melt it. The waves became coherent and thus actually did melt the tube. Three similar waves becoming coherent is 9 times the power of a single wave.

Regards
Ole


 

---In [email protected], <bob.paddock@...> wrote :

 > Why not replace the relay with a switching transistor. Mechanical switches wear fast compared to a semiconductor switch.
 
 What if the Arc/Spark is part of the actual process in getting more energy?
 
 Every O/U thing I've ever though worked usually had a Plasm or Arc/Spark.
 Usually not intentionally and the designer always wanted to get rid of it.

OleBack to the trick, mixing waves to coheraence, how do we set this experiment up?It is very useful to have a concept to work to, namely, coherence, when attempting to coax energy out of a device.If this is it, I feel like I have been groping in the dark, with energy machines, for the last 15 years!Ha,ha.  To put an illustration to where we are not quite at now.In the late 70's I spent about $600 
Canadian, for a tube type helium neon laser. It was only 3 watts but was enough to make a single key of a vey expensive computer, at that time, simply light up, for a three second shot, in a television commercial, on command.I was considered a well paid hero, at that time, saving the production company thousands of dollars, by not having to trash several computers, which they had budgeted for, to do such a thing, as cutting the keyboards apart, and installing grain of wheat light bulbs inside special ones, made from clear acrylic, and so on.All these things are now common as dirt, at corner stores, with cat toy, lasers, selling for $1.25, and keyboards, if they exist at all, just light, on places we touch.How soon we take it all for granted.So to imagine it, is almost most of the way to making it happen.In a down to earth way, can we wind coils, to make transformers to achieve coherence,?What about spiral pancake TESLA coils? Do you think this could be possible? What would the trick have to be?Cheers Warren

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  On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 at 6:29 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
Hi Warren,

Ocean waves just rides through each other by crossing on top of each other. That's also what happens when crossing two beams of light. This is superposition (https://wiki2.org/en/Superposition_principle) where the energy just adds up. For coherence (https://wiki2.org/en/Coherence_(physics)) the single waves are mixed into just one wave which is how the energy becomes more than when just adding up the energy of each single wave. This is like a LASER beam where each single wave merges to become one single coherent wave that doesn't split apart.

The trick is to input the single waves then mix them into a coherent wave before using the energy. This happens in LASERs. When the wave is coherent it doesn't split up into the components forming it. Waves formed by superposition splits up after riding through each other to become the initial single waves after the passage.

Regards
Ole



---In [email protected], <schoonersolsticemoon@...> wrote :

OleOn the ocean, when sailing off shore, is has been reported that occasional waves are many times larger than the prevailing conditions.They are called rogue waves,  and have capsized vessels.The scientific theory seems to match the concept of coherance of waves, of a magnetic field, too.Cheers Warren

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On Sun, 25 Nov 2018 at 9:31 PM, onielsen@... [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote: 
Hi Bob,

"What if the Arc/Spark is part of the actual process in getting more energy?"

Of course this is a possibility. Chernetsky's self-generating discharge plasma claims just that (http://rexresearch.com/chernetskii/chernetskii.htm). Also plasma tubes has some regions with negative resistance characteristic and electron tubes can strip off the electron emitting layer and use this as an energy source. But perhaps burning or consuming the materials in other ways is just as efficient?!

Personally I like the Inversion principle of W.B. Smith as he claims that this principle can take out energy from the cosmic background of space. That background is electrons and positrons according to Smith and those particles are what makes up the physical world we're part of. The trick is to mix two fields of the same kind same size and same direction to become coherent. This happens in electromagnetic coils and many other places. Take two similar coils having the same current through them. Each one represents one unit of energy or a total of two units of energy. Now put the same two coils on only one of the cores and the inductance is quadrupled when the fields are reinforcing each other. Put the same current as before through the 'new' coil and the stored energy is four times that of a single coil on the same core. I.e. that's four units of energy. The current hasn't changed. Only the space changed to share both coils. Smith never built such a device before his death as far as I know. The principle of inversion is explained in chapter ten of his book: http://www.rexresearch.com/smith/newsci~1.htm#ch10forces

Tariel Kapanadze may use that same principle in his electronic self-runners. Dr. Andrey Melnichenko accidentally discovered that same principle when melting a microwave waveguide by having three microwave transmitters send their waves through that rectangular copper tube without having enough power to melt it. The waves became coherent and thus actually did melt the tube. Three similar waves becoming coherent is 9 times the power of a single wave.

Regards
Ole




---In [email protected], <bob.paddock@...> wrote :


> Why not replace the relay with a switching transistor. Mechanical switches wear fast compared to a semiconductor switch.


What if the Arc/Spark is part of the actual process in getting more energy?

Every O/U thing I've ever though worked usually had a Plasm or Arc/Spark.
Usually not intentionally and the designer always wanted to get rid of it.

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Hey Man, knock your self out!   I choose to use the two Interocitors 
that I have on the top shelf of my shop!

(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interocitor)    I first heard the term 
from my Glenn L. Martin, Test Pilot  friend who was testing the P-6M jet 
flying boat up in Baltimore. A day hire (flunky) was given a 5 gal 
bucket of safety orange paint and told to go out on Sea Plane ramp and 
refinish all of the critical, Top Secret Interositors.  They were the 
concrete pyramid blocks with eye bolts on top to tie down the sea planes 
on the ramp going down into Chesapeake Bay.  Lol   Joking aside, we 
really do not know what will or will not work around this strange form 
of energy. Follow Micks post for he is making progress with 
understanding my ramblings.    Norm

On 11/26/2018 10:39 AM, James Glinski [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Norm how about a completely emp proof device ...a v gate magnetic 
> motor with a Gary Wesley neutral zone switch ?.no solid state at all !.
>
> On Monday, November 26, 2018, Norman Wootan [email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>     Back in 1984, talked to John and ordered his famous Tesla Switch
>     plans and built same!  See: attached
>
>     On 11/26/2018 8:32 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>>     https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/articles/12-million-volts
>>     <https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/articles/12-million-volts>
>>     There was a very sad conclusion to all of Golka's research for I
>>     had to scrap down all of this Leadville Project which by many
>>     weird trun of events wound up on my Research farm in two 50 ft.
>>     semi trailers.
>>
>>     On 11/26/2018 7:39 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected]
>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>>     George, Interesting story about mercury as experienced by my
>>>     friend Nick Holden, Waco,TX, who was manufacturing the C-60
>>>     carbon and higher Fullerines. See:
>>>
>>>     https://www.chron.com/local/history/medical-science/article/Discovery-of-Buckyballs-a-Nobel-effort-by-7939221.php  <https://www.chron.com/local/history/medical-science/article/Discovery-of-Buckyballs-a-Nobel-effort-by-7939221.php>
>>>
>>>     Nick developed a close relationship with Prof. Smalley (RIP) and went into the C-60 production. I built a RF plasma system using a 5KW RF power supply which I got from Texas Instruemnts salvage sales.http://www.comdel.com/high-frequency-rf-power-supplies  <http://www.comdel.com/high-frequency-rf-power-supplies>     Made the higher fullerines and Bucky fibers.   Nick went on an expedition down into the South West New Mexico to the old abandoned mercury mines, Mercury, NM, which produced mercury needed for the WWII was effort. A full day trek via 4 wheelers with a Mexican guide brought them to an old mine. When walking inside of mine, Nick asked the Mexican why it felt like they were walking on a water bed??  The Mexican said , brush the dust off and see that you are walking on a pool of mercury.  At the time mercury was selling for $26/# so it would have taken a big 4 wheel drive vehicle to go out and retrieve enough mercury to make it worth while to explore. Lots of mercury that the Environmental people frown on.
>>>
>>>
>>>     On 11/26/2018 6:49 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     Yep!  George, I had boxes of plunge mercury switches and
>>>>     ignatrons that no one wanted because of the pools of mercury
>>>>     inside. I parted out and saved several hundred pounds of
>>>>     mercury which I gave to Bert and Phil so they could build their
>>>>     anti-gravity vehicle. Lol
>>>>
>>>>     On 11/25/2018 9:05 PM, george gray [email protected]
>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>     Norm,
>>>>>
>>>>>     Yes mate, I did a lot of stripping out of stuff in industrial
>>>>>     setups and I kept all the mercury.  I have a good sized bottle
>>>>>     of it but have not used it yet after 53 years of it sitting in
>>>>>     a safe place in my workshop. But I always said to myself that
>>>>>     I would find a use for that in the future. Just being a
>>>>>     hoarder I guess.
>>>>>
>>>>>     George
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     On Monday, 26 November 2018, 3:47:29 am AEDT, Norman Wootan
>>>>>     [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
>>>>>     <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     In case you were wondering where this is going, It is  very
>>>>>     simple. In July 1946, I was just in Grammar School and
>>>>>     remember sitting in my Dads car and listening to the
>>>>>     Operations Crossroads atom bomb  being dropped from a B-29
>>>>>     onto Bikini Atoll . see
>>>>>
>>>>>     https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_testing_at_Bikini_Atoll  <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_testing_at_Bikini_Atoll>
>>>>>
>>>>>     The radio was a Blaupunkt
>>>>>     <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blaupunkt> AS 5 medium wave
>>>>>     <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medium_wave> and longwave
>>>>>     <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longwave> radio which allow
>>>>>     us to listen to a live broadcast of test via short wave from
>>>>>     the Pacific.  Sparked my interest in how these radios worked,
>>>>>     thus I tore into one to find the vibrator tube which made the
>>>>>     HVDC plate voltage needed in the vacuum tube receiver.  This
>>>>>     was the spark that had me enroll into DeVry Electronics (1953)
>>>>>     and join the Ham Club in High School.
>>>>>
>>>>>     https://youtu.be/cwYH98WseG4      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp6PkRTmb8U&feature=youtu.be  <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp6PkRTmb8U&feature=youtu.be>    Now I know how buzzers worked along with the Model T ignition coil. I had though about using this antiquated technology to make a bullet proof switch to enable a sustained pulse train to drive the ferroresonance phenomenon.  You know how a tinkerers mind works.    Hay, look, they are still available.https://www.tubesandmore.com/products/vibrator-6-volt-4-pin-negative-ground  <https://www.tubesandmore.com/products/vibrator-6-volt-4-pin-negative-ground>
>>>>>
>>>>>     https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignitron
>>>>>     <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignitron> Someone asked me
>>>>>     about switching the 5 HP Neutral Spike experiment with mercury
>>>>>     wetted switches. I had plenty of them for we were wrecking
>>>>>     down a lot of industrial equipment.
>>>>>
>>>>>     Just some thought food. Lol   Norm
>>>>>
>>>>>     On 11/25/2018 6:44 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected]
>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>     https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_audio  <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_audio>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>>>>>     <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>
>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQlF-dpU5lw    See, You can build your 
own Interocitor.

On 11/26/2018 3:23 PM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>
> Hey Man, knock your self out!   I choose to use the two Interocitors 
> that I have on the top shelf of my shop!
>
> (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interocitor) I first heard the term 
> from my Glenn L. Martin, Test Pilot friend who was testing the P-6M 
> jet flying boat up in Baltimore. A day hire (flunky) was given a 5 gal 
> bucket of safety orange paint and told to go out on Sea Plane ramp and 
> refinish all of the critical, Top Secret Interositors.  They were the 
> concrete pyramid blocks with eye bolts on top to tie down the sea 
> planes on the ramp going down into Chesapeake Bay.  Lol   Joking 
> aside, we really do not know what will or will not work around this 
> strange form of energy.   Follow Micks post for he is making progress 
> with understanding my ramblings.    Norm
>
> On 11/26/2018 10:39 AM, James Glinski [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>> Norm how about a completely emp proof device ...a v gate magnetic 
>> motor with a Gary Wesley neutral zone switch ?.no solid state at all !.
>>
>> On Monday, November 26, 2018, Norman Wootan [email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>     Back in 1984, talked to John and ordered his famous Tesla Switch
>>     plans and built same! See: attached
>>
>>     On 11/26/2018 8:32 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected]
>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>>     https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/articles/12-million-volts
>>>     <https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/articles/12-million-volts>
>>>     There was a very sad conclusion to all of Golka's research for I
>>>     had to scrap down all of this Leadville Project which by many
>>>     weird trun of events wound up on my Research farm in two 50 ft.
>>>     semi trailers.
>>>
>>>     On 11/26/2018 7:39 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected]
>>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     George, Interesting story about mercury as experienced by my
>>>>     friend Nick Holden, Waco,TX, who was manufacturing the C-60
>>>>     carbon and higher Fullerines. See:
>>>>
>>>>     https://www.chron.com/local/history/medical-science/article/Discovery-of-Buckyballs-a-Nobel-effort-by-7939221.php  <https://www.chron.com/local/history/medical-science/article/Discovery-of-Buckyballs-a-Nobel-effort-by-7939221.php>
>>>>
>>>>     Nick developed a close relationship with Prof. Smalley (RIP) and went into the C-60 production. I built a RF plasma system using a 5KW RF power supply which I got from Texas Instruemnts salvage sales.http://www.comdel.com/high-frequency-rf-power-supplies  <http://www.comdel.com/high-frequency-rf-power-supplies>     Made the higher fullerines and Bucky fibers.   Nick went on an expedition down into the South West New Mexico to the old abandoned mercury mines, Mercury, NM, which produced mercury needed for the WWII was effort. A full day trek via 4 wheelers with a Mexican guide brought them to an old mine. When walking inside of mine, Nick asked the Mexican why it felt like they were walking on a water bed??  The Mexican said , brush the dust off and see that you are walking on a pool of mercury.  At the time mercury was selling for $26/# so it would have taken a big 4 wheel drive vehicle to go out and retrieve enough mercury to make it worth while to explore. Lots of mercury that the Environmental people frown on.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     On 11/26/2018 6:49 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>     Yep!  George, I had boxes of plunge mercury switches and
>>>>>     ignatrons that no one wanted because of the pools of mercury
>>>>>     inside. I parted out and saved several hundred pounds of
>>>>>     mercury which I gave to Bert and Phil so they could build
>>>>>     their anti-gravity vehicle. Lol
>>>>>
>>>>>     On 11/25/2018 9:05 PM, george gray [email protected]
>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>     Norm,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Yes mate, I did a lot of stripping out of stuff in industrial
>>>>>>     setups and I kept all the mercury.  I have a good sized
>>>>>>     bottle of it but have not used it yet after 53 years of it
>>>>>>     sitting in a safe place in my workshop. But I always said to
>>>>>>     myself that I would find a use for that in the future. Just
>>>>>>     being a hoarder I guess.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     George
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     On Monday, 26 November 2018, 3:47:29 am AEDT, Norman Wootan
>>>>>>     [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
>>>>>>     <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     In case you were wondering where this is going, It is very
>>>>>>     simple.  In July 1946, I was just in Grammar School and
>>>>>>     remember sitting in my Dads car and listening to the
>>>>>>     Operations Crossroads atom bomb  being dropped from a B-29
>>>>>>     onto Bikini Atoll . see
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_testing_at_Bikini_Atoll  <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_testing_at_Bikini_Atoll>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     The radio was a Blaupunkt
>>>>>>     <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blaupunkt> AS 5 medium wave
>>>>>>     <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medium_wave> and longwave
>>>>>>     <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longwave> radio which allow
>>>>>>     us to listen to a live broadcast of test via short wave from
>>>>>>     the Pacific. Sparked my interest in how these radios worked,
>>>>>>     thus I tore into one to find the vibrator tube which made the
>>>>>>     HVDC plate voltage needed in the vacuum tube receiver. This
>>>>>>     was the spark that had me enroll into DeVry Electronics
>>>>>>     (1953) and join the Ham Club in High School.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     https://youtu.be/cwYH98WseG4      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp6PkRTmb8U&feature=youtu.be  <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp6PkRTmb8U&feature=youtu.be>    Now I know how buzzers worked along with the Model T ignition coil. I had though about using this antiquated technology to make a bullet proof switch to enable a sustained pulse train to drive the ferroresonance phenomenon.  You know how a tinkerers mind works.    Hay, look, they are still available.https://www.tubesandmore.com/products/vibrator-6-volt-4-pin-negative-ground  <https://www.tubesandmore.com/products/vibrator-6-volt-4-pin-negative-ground>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignitron
>>>>>>     <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignitron> Someone asked me
>>>>>>     about switching the 5 HP Neutral Spike experiment with
>>>>>>     mercury wetted switches.  I had plenty of them for we were
>>>>>>     wrecking down a lot of industrial equipment.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Just some thought food. Lol   Norm
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     On 11/25/2018 6:44 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected]
>>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>     https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_audio  <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_audio>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>>>>>>     <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>>
>>

https://www.instructables.com/id/Building-An-Interocitor-An-Alien-Communication-D/

On 11/26/2018 3:36 PM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQlF-dpU5lw See, You can build your 
> own Interocitor.
>
> On 11/26/2018 3:23 PM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>
>> Hey Man, knock your self out!   I choose to use the two Interocitors 
>> that I have on the top shelf of my shop!
>>
>> (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interocitor) I first heard the term 
>> from my Glenn L. Martin, Test Pilot friend who was testing the P-6M 
>> jet flying boat up in Baltimore. A day hire (flunky) was given a 5 
>> gal bucket of safety orange paint and told to go out on Sea Plane 
>> ramp and refinish all of the critical, Top Secret Interositors.  They 
>> were the concrete pyramid blocks with eye bolts on top to tie down 
>> the sea planes on the ramp going down into Chesapeake Bay.  Lol   
>> Joking aside, we really do not know what will or will not work around 
>> this strange form of energy.   Follow Micks post for he is making 
>> progress with understanding my ramblings.    Norm
>>
>> On 11/26/2018 10:39 AM, James Glinski [email protected] [EVGRAY] 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Norm how about a completely emp proof device ...a v gate magnetic 
>>> motor with a Gary Wesley neutral zone switch ?.no solid state at all !.
>>>
>>> On Monday, November 26, 2018, Norman Wootan [email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     Back in 1984, talked to John and ordered his famous Tesla Switch
>>>     plans and built same!  See: attached
>>>
>>>     On 11/26/2018 8:32 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected]
>>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/articles/12-million-volts
>>>>     <https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/articles/12-million-volts>
>>>>     There was a very sad conclusion to all of Golka's research for
>>>>     I had to scrap down all of this Leadville Project which by many
>>>>     weird trun of events wound up on my Research farm in two 50 ft.
>>>>     semi trailers.
>>>>
>>>>     On 11/26/2018 7:39 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected]
>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>     George, Interesting story about mercury as experienced by my
>>>>>     friend Nick Holden, Waco,TX, who was manufacturing the C-60
>>>>>     carbon and higher Fullerines. See:
>>>>>
>>>>>     https://www.chron.com/local/history/medical-science/article/Discovery-of-Buckyballs-a-Nobel-effort-by-7939221.php  <https://www.chron.com/local/history/medical-science/article/Discovery-of-Buckyballs-a-Nobel-effort-by-7939221.php>
>>>>>
>>>>>     Nick developed a close relationship with Prof. Smalley (RIP) and went into the C-60 production. I built a RF plasma system using a 5KW RF power supply which I got from Texas Instruemnts salvage sales.http://www.comdel.com/high-frequency-rf-power-supplies  <http://www.comdel.com/high-frequency-rf-power-supplies>     Made the higher fullerines and Bucky fibers.   Nick went on an expedition down into the South West New Mexico to the old abandoned mercury mines, Mercury, NM, which produced mercury needed for the WWII was effort. A full day trek via 4 wheelers with a Mexican guide brought them to an old mine. When walking inside of mine, Nick asked the Mexican why it felt like they were walking on a water bed??  The Mexican said , brush the dust off and see that you are walking on a pool of mercury.  At the time mercury was selling for $26/# so it would have taken a big 4 wheel drive vehicle to go out and retrieve enough mercury to make it worth while to explore. Lots of mercury that the Environmental people frown on.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     On 11/26/2018 6:49 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Yep!  George, I had boxes of plunge mercury switches and
>>>>>>     ignatrons that no one wanted because of the pools of mercury
>>>>>>     inside. I parted out and saved several hundred pounds of
>>>>>>     mercury which I gave to Bert and Phil so they could build
>>>>>>     their anti-gravity vehicle. Lol
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     On 11/25/2018 9:05 PM, george gray [email protected]
>>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>     Norm,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Yes mate, I did a lot of stripping out of stuff in
>>>>>>>     industrial setups and I kept all the mercury.  I have a good
>>>>>>>     sized bottle of it but have not used it yet after 53 years
>>>>>>>     of it sitting in a safe place in my workshop. But I always
>>>>>>>     said to myself that I would find a use for that in the
>>>>>>>     future. Just being a hoarder I guess.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     George
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     On Monday, 26 November 2018, 3:47:29 am AEDT, Norman Wootan
>>>>>>>     [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
>>>>>>>     <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     In case you were wondering where this is going, It is very
>>>>>>>     simple. In July 1946, I was just in Grammar School and
>>>>>>>     remember sitting in my Dads car and listening to the
>>>>>>>     Operations Crossroads atom bomb being dropped from a B-29
>>>>>>>     onto Bikini Atoll . see
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_testing_at_Bikini_Atoll  <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_testing_at_Bikini_Atoll>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     The radio was a Blaupunkt
>>>>>>>     <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blaupunkt> AS 5 medium wave
>>>>>>>     <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medium_wave> and longwave
>>>>>>>     <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longwave> radio which allow
>>>>>>>     us to listen to a live broadcast of test via short wave from
>>>>>>>     the Pacific. Sparked my interest in how these radios worked,
>>>>>>>     thus I tore into one to find the vibrator tube which made
>>>>>>>     the HVDC plate voltage needed in the vacuum tube receiver.
>>>>>>>     This was the spark that had me enroll into DeVry Electronics
>>>>>>>     (1953) and join the Ham Club in High School.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     https://youtu.be/cwYH98WseG4      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp6PkRTmb8U&feature=youtu.be  <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp6PkRTmb8U&feature=youtu.be>    Now I know how buzzers worked along with the Model T ignition coil. I had though about using this antiquated technology to make a bullet proof switch to enable a sustained pulse train to drive the ferroresonance phenomenon.  You know how a tinkerers mind works.    Hay, look, they are still available.https://www.tubesandmore.com/products/vibrator-6-volt-4-pin-negative-ground  <https://www.tubesandmore.com/products/vibrator-6-volt-4-pin-negative-ground>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignitron
>>>>>>>     <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignitron> Someone asked me
>>>>>>>     about switching the 5 HP Neutral Spike experiment with
>>>>>>>     mercury wetted switches.  I had plenty of them for we were
>>>>>>>     wrecking down a lot of industrial equipment.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Just some thought food. Lol   Norm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     On 11/25/2018 6:44 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected]
>>>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>     https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_audio  <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_audio>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>>>>>>>     <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>>>
>>>

Yes, my observation is that the energy manifest at the point of plasma 
arc which is the magnetic flux annihilation event and reconnect.  
Awesome power developed and carried over very small wire as if it is 
super high freq RF at phenomenal amps. I agree in that solid state 
components should not be near the event point. Crispy critters. Yes, 
that white paper is very detailed as to what is happening here. If folks 
will just read and comprehend. 
See:http://www-brs.ub.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/netahtml/HSS/Diss/TassiEmanuele/diss.pdf


On 11/26/2018 11:59 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Hi Norm,
>
> This paper is one of your excellent references.
>
> I would like to replicate the events through the plasma that I 
> achieved as it creates a huge magnetic pulse that can be harvested but 
> as you say gets to kill the solid state stuff as if the TVS diodes 
> were not even there. At least the ferroresonant amplification without 
> the plasma gap just cooks the TVS diodes like popcorn even though 
> rated at 1000 amps with only about 2 amp 23v input, but spared the 
> rest, I guess it chose at the diodes to manifest.  Oh yeah the 
> ferrotranny was connected with 30 guage wire wrap wire when the 1000 
> amps TVS diodes exploded from 46w and wire was fine. Have not built 
> the tube circuits yet just working on the solid state grid control 
> circuits first then plan to decouple with something similar to cascode 
> so hopefully the superfast gate driver does not cook.
>
> Not sure if Ole's snubber network would stop the event but have the 
> feeling so since caps will suppress the rise time and kill ringing, 
> but have not tried so can't say. Seems to me the event is created 
> right at the switch and the rise in voltage is like the inertia x 
> acceleration before the end of a whip cracks and necessary.
>
>
> "Why does death need time?  Death needs time for what it kills to grow 
> in."
>
>
> On 11/26/2018 4:44 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>> Precisely, Bob Paddock.  Please read this document to understand that 
>> a local plasma event must occur (Arc in the gap) for the 
>> manifestation of this energy. Please read: 
>> http://www-brs.ub.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/netahtml/HSS/Diss/TassiEmanuele/diss.pdf
>>
>> On 11/25/2018 7:36 PM, Bob Paddock [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>> > Why not replace the relay with a switching transistor. Mechanical 
>>> switches wear fast compared to a semiconductor switch.
>>>
>>> What if the Arc/Spark is part of the actual process in getting more 
>>> energy?
>>>
>>> Every O/U thing I've ever though worked usually had a Plasm or 
>>> Arc/Spark.
>>> Usually not intentionally and the designer always wanted to get rid 
>>> of it.
>>>
>

Norm how about a completely emp proof device ...a v gate magnetic motor
with a Gary Wesley neutral zone switch ?.no solid state at all !.

On Monday, November 26, 2018, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] <
[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> Back in 1984, talked to John and ordered his famous Tesla Switch plans and
> built same!  See: attached
> On 11/26/2018 8:32 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
>
>
> https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/articles/12-million-volts   There
> was a very sad conclusion to all of Golka's research for I had to scrap
> down all of this Leadville Project which by many weird trun of events wound
> up on my Research farm in two 50 ft. semi trailers.
> On 11/26/2018 7:39 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
>
>
> George, Interesting story about mercury as experienced by my friend Nick
> Holden, Waco,TX, who was manufacturing the C-60 carbon and higher
> Fullerines. See:
>
> https://www.chron.com/local/history/medical-science/article/Discovery-of-Buckyballs-a-Nobel-effort-by-7939221.php
>
> Nick developed a close relationship with Prof. Smalley (RIP) and went into the C-60 production. I built a RF plasma system using a 5KW RF power supply which I got from Texas Instruemnts salvage sales. http://www.comdel.com/high-frequency-rf-power-supplies    Made the higher fullerines and Bucky fibers.   Nick went on an expedition down into the South West New Mexico to the old abandoned mercury mines, Mercury, NM, which produced mercury needed for the WWII was effort. A full day trek via 4 wheelers with a Mexican guide brought them to an old mine. When walking inside of mine, Nick asked the Mexican why it felt like they were walking on a water bed??  The Mexican said , brush the dust off and see that you are walking on a pool of mercury.  At the time mercury was selling for $26/# so it would have taken a big 4 wheel drive vehicle to go out and retrieve enough mercury to make it worth while to explore. Lots of mercury that the Environmental people frown on.
>
>
>
> On 11/26/2018 6:49 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>
> Yep!  George, I had boxes of plunge mercury switches and ignatrons that no
> one wanted because of the pools of mercury inside. I parted out and saved
> several hundred pounds of mercury which I gave to Bert and Phil so they
> could build their anti-gravity vehicle. Lol
> On 11/25/2018 9:05 PM, george gray [email protected] [EVGRAY]
> wrote:
>
>
> Norm,
>
> Yes mate, I did a lot of stripping out of stuff in industrial setups and I
> kept all the mercury.  I have a good sized bottle of it but have not used
> it yet after 53 years of it sitting in a safe place in my workshop. But I
> always said to myself that I would find a use for that in the future. Just
> being a hoarder I guess.
>
> George
>
>
> On Monday, 26 November 2018, 3:47:29 am AEDT, Norman Wootan
> [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> In case you were wondering where this is going, It is  very simple.  In
> July 1946, I was just in Grammar School and remember sitting in my Dads car
> and listening to the Operations Crossroads atom bomb  being dropped from a
> B-29 onto Bikini Atoll . see
>
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_testing_at_Bikini_Atoll
>
> The radio was a Blaupunkt <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blaupunkt> AS
> 5 medium wave <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medium_wave> and longwave
> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longwave> radio which allow us to listen
> to a live broadcast of test via short wave from the Pacific.  Sparked my
> interest in how these radios worked, thus I tore into one to find the
> vibrator tube which made the HVDC plate voltage needed in the vacuum tube
> receiver.  This was the spark that had me enroll into DeVry Electronics
> (1953) and join the Ham Club in High School.
>
> https://youtu.be/cwYH98WseG4     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp6PkRTmb8U&feature=youtu.be   Now I know how buzzers worked along with the Model T ignition coil. I had though about using this antiquated technology to make a bullet proof switch to enable a sustained pulse train to drive the ferroresonance phenomenon.  You know how a tinkerers mind works.    Hay, look, they are still available.  https://www.tubesandmore.com/products/vibrator-6-volt-4-pin-negative-ground
>
>
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignitron  Someone asked me about
> switching the 5 HP Neutral Spike experiment with mercury wetted switches.
> I had plenty of them for we were wrecking down a lot of industrial
> equipment.
>
> Just some thought food.  Lol   Norm
>
> On 11/25/2018 6:44 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
>
>
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_audio
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>
> 
>

> I would like to replicate the events through the plasma that I achieved as it creates a huge magnetic pulse that can be harvested but as you say gets to kill the solid state stuff as if the TVS diodes were not even there.

When you need a power supply that will not fail, in places like a high
radiation environment or Funky Energy, you use Mag Amps and Saturable
Cores or Saturable Reactors, today made from Metglas.
The concepts might help you out with your destruction issue.

FYI:
http://www.designer-iii.com/cco/Metglas/c0300r34.htm
https://toshiba.semicon-storage.com/us/product/amorphous/saturable-cores.html
http://teslapress.com/mag-amp/
http://teslapress.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/magamp.pdf
http://teslapress.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/MAB.pdf

On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 4:23 PM Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Hey Man, knock your self out!   I choose to use the two Interocitors that I have on the top shelf of my shop!

Bob,

Good idea but are dealing with very fast rise times, not sure even
metglas can switch fast enoug.

On 11/26/2018 2:17 PM, Bob Paddock [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> > I would like to replicate the events through the plasma that I
> achieved as it creates a huge magnetic pulse that can be harvested but
> as you say gets to kill the solid state stuff as if the TVS diodes
> were not even there.
>
> When you need a power supply that will not fail, in places like a high
> radiation environment or Funky Energy, you use Mag Amps and Saturable
> Cores or Saturable Reactors, today made from Metglas.
> The concepts might help you out with your destruction issue.
>
> FYI:
> http://www.designer-iii.com/cco/Metglas/c0300r34.htm
> https://toshiba.semicon-storage.com/us/product/amorphous/saturable-cores.html
> http://teslapress.com/mag-amp/
> http://teslapress.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/magamp.pdf
> http://teslapress.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/MAB.pdf
>
>

Hi Norman,

 What if there is nothing like magnetic lines of force. Or at least no more than there are wave field lines on the oceans. Consider all force fields as waves like it is done in the theory of Rhythmodynamics. Magnetic field lines don't incorporate gravity. To explain Alexey Chekurov's antigravity device conventional electromagnetism may not be adequate. The relation between gravity and electromagnetism may need theories like that of W.B. Smith and W.J. Hooper or the theory of Rhythmodynamics.by Yuri Ivanov. Then all forces are basically interactions of electrons or positrons which make up the physical world. What make equipotential lines like putting iron powder on a cardboard on top of a magnet may be just the particles laying in the least energy density valleys of the waves.

The following figures are from an early version of Ivanov's book. They're all just the interference of waves from two transmitters even though it may look like field lines from a distance. As T.J.J. See showed in his work it looks like the forces in waves behaves the same no matter if being sound in a gas or in a liquid or light in vacuum gas or solid matter. There seems to be a universal law governing waves (look up wave theory).

 
 
 
 
Then consider electromagnetism as a case of waves or vibrations but of ultrashort wavelengths capable of penetrate everything. The interference of those ultrashort waves is what we perceive as electromagnetism. The magnetic field has very high penetration strength. Is there any known matter that it doesn't go through? Even vacuum conducts magnetism even though it's around 10000 times less than iron.

Perhaps Keely could pump away enough of that medium of fine matter to decrease the conductivity for the all penetrating ultrashort waves. Those waves are the ultimate source of energy. It looks like some people can do the trick of converting them into useful energy sources. W.B. Smith only claims that it can be done without showing how to do it. Kapanadze and perhaps Don Smith could do it as well as Dr. Melnichenko. Kapanadze shows both his mechanical self-runner as well as several solid state devices with only the plasma spark gap in the electronic versions not being solid state. The mechanical version looks like driven by pulses without a spark gap. I think the spark gap is only for making the very sharp pulses. A transistor in avalanche mode would probably work too. This gives very high pulse power even though the mean power is low. The problem when using coils is that they have high impedance to short pulses which requires high voltage to drive even small current through them. This could be the reason for using spark gaps as they can work at very high voltages. Step-up transformers like induction coils can charge a capacitor that is then discharged through the coil. Something nonlinear like a rectifier is also needed to mix waves into coherence. Without a nonlinear part in the mixer the signals rides through each other.

Regards
Ole



---In [email protected], <nwootan@...> wrote :

 Ole, see attached:
 
 On 11/26/2018 6:32 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... mailto:nwootan@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
 
   
 Ole, a careful study of the Anti Parallel, Magnetic Flux Annihilation and Reconnect Phenomenon ( https://www.nap.edu/read/10993/chapter/4#27 https://www.nap.edu/read/10993/chapter/4#27  ) is required reading to understand that this kinetic energy conversion into a form of energy still foreign to our pea size brains. Modern solid state devices stand absolutely no chance of survival in this strange environment therefore I would not even suggest same.  If you actually saw this phenomenon happen, you would simply saw WOW.  I have witnessed it numerous times and know that solid state is not the answer. In my unidirectional DC pulse, Magnetic spark gap experiments, I used a long throw high amperage (DC) flash suppressed mechanical switch to fire the HVDC.  Learned from reading Tesla experiences in the Edison DC switching.  Bert & Phil used an air blown HVDC firing gap when they were exploding 10 ga. wire coils in their Z Pinch experiments with 25KJ cap discharges at 30KVDC. Also see the study of parallel flux lines which repel vs the anti-parallel lines which attract one another and it takes a critical angle to cause the collision effect. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/272082205_A_laboratory_study_of_asymmetric_magnetic_reconnection_in_strongly_driven_plasmas https://www.researchgate.net/publication/272082205_A_laboratory_study_of_asymmetric_magnetic_reconnection_in_strongly_driven_plasmas
 https://aip.scitation.org/doi/10.1063/1.4917248 https://aip.scitation.org/doi/10.1063/1.4917248
 https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-319-26432-5_13 https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-319-26432-5_13
 http://library.psfc.mit.edu/catalog/reports/2010/16ja/16ja008/16ja008_full.pdf http://library.psfc.mit.edu/catalog/reports/2010/16ja/16ja008/16ja008_full.pdf
 http://www-brs.ub.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/netahtml/HSS/Diss/TassiEmanuele/diss.pdf http://www-brs.ub.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/netahtml/HSS/Diss/TassiEmanuele/diss.pdf
 This field of study requires a lot of comprehensive reading.   Norm
 
 On 11/25/2018 6:44 PM, onielsen@... mailto:onielsen@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
 
   Why not replace the relay with a switching transistor. Mechanical switches wear fast compared to a semiconductor switch. Here is an electronic replacement for driving the old Ford T ignition coils: https://www.edn.com/design/diy/4438484/Master-vibrator-replacement-for-the-Model-T---TT-Ford https://www.edn.com/design/diy/4438484/Master-vibrator-replacement-for-the-Model-T---TT-Ford
 
 Wikipedia on vibrator regulators: https://wiki2.org/en/Vibrator_(electronic) https://wiki2.org/en/Vibrator_(electronic)
 This image is from the Wikipedia article.
 
 Wikipedia on choppers or vibrators driving transformers: https://wiki2.org/en/Chopper_(electronics) https://wiki2.org/en/Chopper_(electronics). Modern semiconductor switches has made vibrators obsolete.
 
 Regards
 Ole
 
 
 ---In [email protected] mailto:[email protected], <nwootan@...> mailto:nwootan@... wrote :
 
 We could try to analyze it to determine kind of energy it is first of all.  Then try to collect and conserve it.
 
 On 11/25/2018 3:45 PM, Mick mkjekyll@... mailto:mkjekyll@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
 
   Norm,
 I had one of these in my 67 Lotus Elan for the tube radio.  Not a bad idea to hard switch the oscillator and maintain the logitudinal aspect.  And what would you use to collect the shot after creating it?
 
 On 11/25/2018 8:19 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... mailto:nwootan@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
 
   In case you were wondering where this is going, It is  very simple.  In July 1946, I was just in Grammar School and remember sitting in my Dads car and listening to the Operations Crossroads atom bomb  being dropped from a B-29 onto Bikini Atoll . see   
 
 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_testing_at_Bikini_Atoll https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_testing_at_Bikini_Atoll The radio was a Blaupunkt https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blaupunkt AS 5 medium wave https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medium_wave" title="Medium wave and longwave https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longwave radio which allow us to listen to a live broadcast of test via short wave from the Pacific.  Sparked my interest in how these radios worked, thus I tore into one to find the vibrator tube which made the HVDC plate voltage needed in the vacuum tube receiver.  This was the spark that had me enroll into DeVry Electronics (1953) and join the Ham Club in High School.
 https://youtu.be/cwYH98WseG4 https://youtu.be/cwYH98WseG4     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp6PkRTmb8U&feature=youtu.be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp6PkRTmb8U&feature=youtu.be   Now I know how buzzers worked along with the Model T ignition coil. I had though about using this antiquated technology to make a bullet proof switch to enable a sustained pulse train to drive the ferroresonance phenomenon.  You know how a tinkerers mind works.    Hay, look, they are still available.  https://www.tubesandmore.com/products/vibrator-6-volt-4-pin-negative-ground https://www.tubesandmore.com/products/vibrator-6-volt-4-pin-negative-ground
 
 
 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignitron https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignitron  Someone asked me about switching the 5 HP Neutral Spike experiment with mercury wetted switches.  I had plenty of them for we were wrecking down a lot of industrial equipment. 
 
 
 
 Just some thought food.  Lol   Norm
 
 
 
 On 11/25/2018 6:44 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... mailto:nwootan@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
 
   https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_audio https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_audio 
 Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

Hi Mick,

TVS diodes are rated for some max power dissipation and perhaps some max energy too (fusing energy I^2t). If applying more energy than the max i^2t rating it melts. As being fast Zener diodes they clamp the voltage at some level while having current through them at the same time which means power dissipation in them. If reading EMC (EMI) theory several stages are needed to protect for powerful EMP transients. The first step is a spark gap. The spark gap is followed by a varistor that is followed by a TVS or Zener diode. The spark gap breaks down to low impedance which reflects or dissipates much of the energy of the signal. The varistor is a solid state spark in some metal grains and has the same purpose as the spark gap. the TVS or Zener diode stage removes the rest of the energy to protect the sensitive electronics. It is essential to know how the electromagnetic radiation is transferred between the different stages to prevent it from reaching the sensitive electronics. Every current loop transmits the energy as a very penetrating magnetic field. That magnetic energy has to be dissipated or reflected which can be done with electrical conductive materials like iron or aluminum. The field induces current in the screening material which requires only connecting the circuit inside the screen to a single point. Audio guys probably have experienced this when building amplifiers.

A thyristor (SCR) crowbar is also a good protection. It shorts the pulse just like a spark gap and then blows a fuse to disconnect the circuit to be protected..

Regards
Ole
 

---In [email protected], <mkjekyll@...> wrote :

 Hi Norm, 

 This paper is one of your excellent references.

 I would like to replicate the events through the plasma that I achieved as it creates a huge magnetic pulse that can be harvested but as you say gets to kill the solid state stuff as if the TVS diodes were not even there. At least the ferroresonant amplification without the plasma gap just cooks the TVS diodes like popcorn even though rated at 1000 amps with only about 2 amp 23v input, but spared the rest, I guess it chose at the diodes to manifest.  Oh yeah the ferrotranny was connected with 30 guage wire wrap wire when the 1000 amps TVS diodes exploded from 46w and wire was fine. Have not built the tube circuits yet just working on the solid state grid control circuits first then plan to decouple with something similar to cascode so hopefully the superfast gate driver does not cook.  

 Not sure if Ole's snubber network would stop the event but have the feeling so since caps will suppress the rise time and kill ringing, but have not tried so can't say.  Seems to me the event is created right at the switch and the rise in voltage is like the inertia x acceleration before the end of a whip cracks and necessary.  

 

 "Why does death need time?  Death needs time for what it kills to grow in."

 

 On 11/26/2018 4:44 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... mailto:nwootan@... [EVGRAY] wrote:

   
 Precisely, Bob Paddock.  Please read this document to understand that a local plasma event must occur (Arc in the gap) for the manifestation of this energy. Please read:   http://www-brs.ub.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/netahtml/HSS/Diss/TassiEmanuele/diss.pdf http://www-brs.ub.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/netahtml/HSS/Diss/TassiEmanuele/diss.pdf

 On 11/25/2018 7:36 PM, Bob Paddock bob.paddock@... mailto:bob.paddock@... [EVGRAY] wrote:

   > Why not replace the relay with a switching transistor. Mechanical switches wear fast compared to a semiconductor switch.
 
 What if the Arc/Spark is part of the actual process in getting more energy?
 
 Every O/U thing I've ever though worked usually had a Plasm or Arc/Spark.
 Usually not intentionally and the designer always wanted to get rid of it.

OleOne has to keep in mind those graphic representations are mere 2D slices from a rounded, larger three dimensional wave field, like a sliced onion.It becomes a challenge to navigate through the volume with line coherence.Very interesting topic!Cheers Warren
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 at 8:00 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
Hi Norman,


What if there is nothing like magnetic lines of force. Or at least no more than there are wave field lines on the oceans. Consider all force fields as waves like it is done in the theory of Rhythmodynamics. Magnetic field lines don't incorporate gravity. To explain Alexey Chekurov's antigravity device conventional electromagnetism may not be adequate. The relation between gravity and electromagnetism may need theories like that of W.B. Smith and W.J. Hooper or the theory of Rhythmodynamics.by Yuri Ivanov. Then all forces are basically interactions of electrons or positrons which make up the physical world. What make equipotential lines like putting iron powder on a cardboard on top of a magnet may be just the particles laying in the least energy density valleys of the waves.

The following figures are from an early version of Ivanov's book. They're all just the interference of waves from two transmitters even though it may look like field lines from a distance. As T.J.J. See showed in his work it looks like the forces in waves behaves the same no matter if being sound in a gas or in a liquid or light in vacuum gas or solid matter. There seems to be a universal law governing waves (look up wave theory).

Then consider electromagnetism as a case of waves or vibrations but of ultrashort wavelengths capable of penetrate everything. The interference of those ultrashort waves is what we perceive as electromagnetism. The magnetic field has very high penetration strength. Is there any known matter that it doesn't go through? Even vacuum conducts magnetism even though it's around 10000 times less than iron.

Perhaps Keely could pump away enough of that medium of fine matter to decrease the conductivity for the all penetrating ultrashort waves. Those waves are the ultimate source of energy. It looks like some people can do the trick of converting them into useful energy sources. W.B. Smith only claims that it can be done without showing how to do it. Kapanadze and perhaps Don Smith could do it as well as Dr. Melnichenko. Kapanadze shows both his mechanical self-runner as well as several solid state devices with only the plasma spark gap in the electronic versions not being solid state. The mechanical version looks like driven by pulses without a spark gap. I think the spark gap is only for making the very sharp pulses. A transistor in avalanche mode would probably work too. This gives very high pulse power even though the mean power is low. The problem when using coils is that they have high impedance to short pulses which requires high voltage to drive even small current through them. This could be the reason for using spark gaps as they can work at very high voltages. Step-up transformers like induction coils can charge a capacitor that is then discharged through the coil. Something nonlinear like a rectifier is also needed to mix waves into coherence. Without a nonlinear part in the mixer the signals rides through each other.

Regards
Ole


---In [email protected], <nwootan@...> wrote :

 
Ole, see attached:
 
 On 11/26/2018 6:32 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
 
    
 
 
Ole, a careful study of the Anti Parallel, Magnetic Flux Annihilation and Reconnect Phenomenon ( https://www.nap.edu/read/10993/chapter/4#27  ) is required reading to understand that this kinetic energy conversion into a form of energy still foreign to our pea size brains. Modern solid state devices stand absolutely no chance of survival in this strange environment therefore I would not even suggest same.  If you actually saw this phenomenon happen, you would simply saw WOW.  I have witnessed it numerous times and know that solid state is not the answer. In my unidirectional DC pulse, Magnetic spark gap experiments, I used a long throw high amperage (DC) flash suppressed mechanical switch to fire the HVDC.  Learned from reading Tesla experiences in the Edison DC switching.  Bert & Phil used an air blown HVDC firing gap when they were exploding 10 ga. wire coils in their Z Pinch experiments with 25KJ cap discharges at 30KVDC. Also see the study of parallel flux lines which repel vs the anti-parallel lines which attract one another and it takes a critical angle to cause the collision effect. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/272082205_A_laboratory_study_of_asymmetric_magnetic_reconnection_in_strongly_driven_plasmas
 
https://aip.scitation.org/doi/10.1063/1.4917248
 
https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-319-26432-5_13
 
http://library.psfc.mit.edu/catalog/reports/2010/16ja/16ja008/16ja008_full.pdf
 
http://www-brs.ub.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/netahtml/HSS/Diss/TassiEmanuele/diss.pdf
 
This field of study requires a lot of comprehensive reading.   Norm
 
 On 11/25/2018 6:44 PM, onielsen@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
Why not replace the relay with a switching transistor. Mechanical switches wear fast compared to a semiconductor switch. Here is an electronic replacement for driving the old Ford T ignition coils: https://www.edn.com/design/diy/4438484/Master-vibrator-replacement-for-the-Model-T---TT-Ford
 
 Wikipedia on vibrator regulators: https://wiki2.org/en/Vibrator_(electronic)
 This image is from the Wikipedia article.
 
 Wikipedia on choppers or vibrators driving transformers: https://wiki2.org/en/Chopper_(electronics). Modern semiconductor switches has made vibrators obsolete.
 
 Regards
 Ole
 
 
 ---In [email protected], <nwootan@...> wrote :
 
  
We could try to analyze it to determine kind of energy it is first of all.  Then try to collect and conserve it.
 
 On 11/25/2018 3:45 PM, Mick mkjekyll@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
 
    
Norm,
 
I had one of these in my 67 Lotus Elan for the tube radio.  Not a bad idea to hard switch the oscillator and maintain the logitudinal aspect.  And what would you use to collect the shot after creating it?
 
 On 11/25/2018 8:19 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
In case you were wondering where this is going, It is  very simple.  In July 1946, I was just in Grammar School and remember sitting in my Dads car and listening to the Operations Crossroads atom bomb  being dropped from a B-29 onto Bikini Atoll . see   
 
 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_testing_at_Bikini_Atoll 
 The radio was a Blaupunkt AS 5 medium wave and longwave radio which allow us to listen to a live broadcast of test via short wave from the Pacific.  Sparked my interest in how these radios worked, thus I tore into one to find the vibrator tube which made the HVDC plate voltage needed in the vacuum tube receiver.  This was the spark that had me enroll into DeVry Electronics (1953) and join the Ham Club in High School.
 https://youtu.be/cwYH98WseG4     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp6PkRTmb8U&feature=youtu.be   Now I know how buzzers worked along with the Model T ignition coil. I had though about using this antiquated technology to make a bullet proof switch to enable a sustained pulse train to drive the ferroresonance phenomenon.  You know how a tinkerers mind works.    Hay, look, they are still available.  https://www.tubesandmore.com/products/vibrator-6-volt-4-pin-negative-ground
 
  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignitron  Someone asked me about switching the 5 HP Neutral Spike experiment with mercury wetted switches.  I had plenty of them for we were wrecking down a lot of industrial equipment. 
  
  Just some thought food.  Lol   Norm
  
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Hi Warren,

"Back to the trick, mixing waves to coheraence, how do we set this experiment up?"
I'm using electronics as that's what I have knowledge of and means to build and experiment with. Kapanadze does both electronics and mechanics. As long as the principle is valid any means can be used. Viktor Schauberger used air and water so if one know pneumatics or hydraulics that's another way to go.

"In a down to earth way, can we wind coils, to make transformers to achieve coherence,?"
That's what I'm trying. Perhaps the fields must travel into the ambient and not just stay inside the magnetic conductors of the core?! But I don't see that this would matter if the fundamental fields are all penetrating. I see ferrous materials as being good candidates for a nonlinear mixer when working around the saturation region.

Perhaps a nonlinear transmission line is what is needed for the mixer. If one knows it all becomes very simple I guess. Everything was hard until someone found the principles. Many that have made self-running devices aren't good at explaining how to do it or perhaps just aren't willing to tell so. Inventors are very secretive while their investors want to know everything to finance them which make it a bad combination. Thus don't expect such a device to come from that path. It's probably a full time job to make such a device. Without much time a long while may go before achieving good results. We just have to keep on trying. I'm going somewhere along the way of the Clemente Figuera patents with slow progress. I wonder how long Pierre Cotnoir has come with his next device.

Regards
Ole
 

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 Ole Back to the trick, mixing waves to coheraence, how do we set this experiment up?
 It is very useful to have a concept to work to, namely, coherence, when attempting to coax energy out of a device.
 If this is it, I feel like I have been groping in the dark, with energy machines, for the last 15 years!
 Ha,ha.  
 To put an illustration to where we are not quite at now.
 In the late 70's I spent about $600 
Canadian, for a tube type helium neon laser. It was only 3 watts but was enough to make a single key of a vey expensive computer, at that time, simply light up, for a three second shot, in a television commercial, on command.
 I was considered a well paid hero, at that time, saving the production company thousands of dollars, by not having to trash several computers, which they had budgeted for, to do such a thing, as cutting the keyboards apart, and installing grain of wheat light bulbs inside special ones, made from clear acrylic, and so on.
 All these things are now common as dirt, at corner stores, with cat toy, lasers, selling for $1.25, and keyboards, if they exist at all, just light, on places we touch.
 How soon we take it all for granted.
 So to imagine it, is almost most of the way to making it happen.
 In a down to earth way, can we wind coils, to make transformers to achieve coherence,?
 What about spiral pancake TESLA coils? Do you think this could be possible? What would the trick have to be?
 Cheers Warren
 

 
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 On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 at 6:29 AM, onielsen@... [EVGRAY]
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   Hi Warren,

Ocean waves just rides through each other by crossing on top of each other. That's also what happens when crossing two beams of light. This is superposition (https://wiki2.org/en/Superposition_principle https://wiki2.org/en/Superposition_principle) where the energy just adds up. For coherence (https://wiki2.org/en/Coherence_(physics) https://wiki2.org/en/Coherence_(physics)) the single waves are mixed into just one wave which is how the energy becomes more than when just adding up the energy of each single wave. This is like a LASER beam where each single wave merges to become one single coherent wave that doesn't split apart.

The trick is to input the single waves then mix them into a coherent wave before using the energy. This happens in LASERs. When the wave is coherent it doesn't split up into the components forming it. Waves formed by superposition splits up after riding through each other to become the initial single waves after the passage.

Regards
Ole

 

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 Ole On the ocean, when sailing off shore, is has been reported that occasional waves are many times larger than the prevailing conditions.
 They are called rogue waves,  and have capsized vessels.
 The scientific theory seems to match the concept of coherance of waves, of a magnetic field, too.
 Cheers Warren

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 On Sun, 25 Nov 2018 at 9:31 PM, onielsen@... [EVGRAY]
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   Hi Bob,

"What if the Arc/Spark is part of the actual process in getting more energy?"

Of course this is a possibility. Chernetsky's self-generating discharge plasma claims just that (http://rexresearch.com/chernetskii/chernetskii.htm http://rexresearch.com/chernetskii/chernetskii.htm). Also plasma tubes has some regions with negative resistance characteristic and electron tubes can strip off the electron emitting layer and use this as an energy source. But perhaps burning or consuming the materials in other ways is just as efficient?!

Personally I like the Inversion principle of W.B. Smith as he claims that this principle can take out energy from the cosmic background of space. That background is electrons and positrons according to Smith and those particles are what makes up the physical world we're part of. The trick is to mix two fields of the same kind same size and same direction to become coherent. This happens in electromagnetic coils and many other places. Take two similar coils having the same current through them. Each one represents one unit of energy or a total of two units of energy. Now put the same two coils on only one of the cores and the inductance is quadrupled when the fields are reinforcing each other. Put the same current as before through the 'new' coil and the stored energy is four times that of a single coil on the same core. I.e. that's four units of energy. The current hasn't changed. Only the space changed to share both coils. Smith never built such a device before his death as far as I know. The principle of inversion is explained in chapter ten of his book: http://www.rexresearch.com/smith/newsci~1.htm#ch10forces http://www.rexresearch.com/smith/newsci~1.htm#ch10forces

Tariel Kapanadze may use that same principle in his electronic self-runners. Dr. Andrey Melnichenko accidentally discovered that same principle when melting a microwave waveguide by having three microwave transmitters send their waves through that rectangular copper tube without having enough power to melt it. The waves became coherent and thus actually did melt the tube. Three similar waves becoming coherent is 9 times the power of a single wave.

Regards
Ole


 

---In [email protected], <bob.paddock@...> wrote :

 > Why not replace the relay with a switching transistor. Mechanical switches wear fast compared to a semiconductor switch.
 
 What if the Arc/Spark is part of the actual process in getting more energy?
 
 Every O/U thing I've ever though worked usually had a Plasm or Arc/Spark.
 Usually not intentionally and the designer always wanted to get rid of it.

OleI notice that Zilano likes to use Varistors in her circuits to keep the voltages down. You see them in her circuit sketch drawings.
Cheers Warren
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  On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 at 8:53 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
Hi Mick,

TVS diodes are rated for some max power dissipation and perhaps some max energy too (fusing energy I^2t). If applying more energy than the max i^2t rating it melts. As being fast Zener diodes they clamp the voltage at some level while having current through them at the same time which means power dissipation in them. If reading EMC (EMI) theory several stages are needed to protect for powerful EMP transients. The first step is a spark gap. The spark gap is followed by a varistor that is followed by a TVS or Zener diode. The spark gap breaks down to low impedance which reflects or dissipates much of the energy of the signal. The varistor is a solid state spark in some metal grains and has the same purpose as the spark gap. the TVS or Zener diode stage removes the rest of the energy to protect the sensitive electronics. It is essential to know how the electromagnetic radiation is transferred between the different stages to prevent it from reaching the sensitive electronics. Every current loop transmits the energy as a very penetrating magnetic field. That magnetic energy has to be dissipated or reflected which can be done with electrical conductive materials like iron or aluminum. The field induces current in the screening material which requires only connecting the circuit inside the screen to a single point. Audio guys probably have experienced this when building amplifiers.

A thyristor (SCR) crowbar is also a good protection. It shorts the pulse just like a spark gap and then blows a fuse to disconnect the circuit to be protected..

Regards
Ole



---In [email protected], <mkjekyll@...> wrote :


Hi Norm, 


This paper is one of your excellent references.


I would like to replicate the events through the plasma that Iachieved as it creates a huge magnetic pulse that can be harvestedbut as you say gets to kill the solid state stuff as if the TVSdiodes were not even there. At least the ferroresonantamplification without the plasma gap just cooks the TVS diodeslike popcorn even though rated at 1000 amps with only about 2 amp23v input, but spared the rest, I guess it chose at the diodes tomanifest.  Oh yeah the ferrotranny was connected with 30 guagewire wrap wire when the 1000 amps TVS diodes exploded from 46w andwire was fine. Have not built the tube circuits yet just workingon the solid state grid control circuits first then plan todecouple with something similar to cascode so hopefully thesuperfast gate driver does not cook.  


Not sure if Ole's snubber network would stop the event but havethe feeling so since caps will suppress the rise time and killringing, but have not tried so can't say.  Seems to me the eventis created right at the switch and the rise in voltage is like theinertia x acceleration before the end of a whip cracks andnecessary.  





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On 11/26/2018 4:44 AM, Norman Wootannwootan@... [EVGRAY] wrote:


 


Precisely, Bob Paddock.  Please read this document tounderstand that a local plasma event must occur (Arc inthe gap) for the manifestation of this energy. Pleaseread:  http://www-brs.ub.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/netahtml/HSS/Diss/TassiEmanuele/diss.pdf

On 11/25/2018 7:36 PM, BobPaddock bob.paddock@...[EVGRAY] wrote:

 
> Why not replace the relay with a switchingtransistor. Mechanical switches wear fast compared toa semiconductor switch.

What if the Arc/Spark is part of the actual process ingetting more energy?

Every O/U thing I've ever though worked usually had aPlasm or Arc/Spark.
Usually not intentionally and the designer alwayswanted to get rid of it.




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OleI have a suspicion that differential calculus might be used  to work out the intersections, but logarithmic tables, and slide rules, were the bane of my youth, and very traumatic, to this day.If ever there is a case for computer simulations, this might be a good one, to help us out.We need someone strong in this area to help, if only we can communicate what we need that person to resolve.You are right, most of the inventors had bad people skillsCheers Warren

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  On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 at 10:16 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
Hi Warren,

"Back to the trick, mixing waves to coheraence, how do we set this experiment up?"
I'm using electronics as that's what I have knowledge of and means to build and experiment with. Kapanadze does both electronics and mechanics. As long as the principle is valid any means can be used. Viktor Schauberger used air and water so if one know pneumatics or hydraulics that's another way to go.

"In a down to earth way, can we wind coils, to make transformers to achieve coherence,?"
That's what I'm trying. Perhaps the fields must travel into the ambient and not just stay inside the magnetic conductors of the core?! But I don't see that this would matter if the fundamental fields are all penetrating. I see ferrous materials as being good candidates for a nonlinear mixer when working around the saturation region.

Perhaps a nonlinear transmission line is what is needed for the mixer. If one knows it all becomes very simple I guess. Everything was hard until someone found the principles. Many that have made self-running devices aren't good at explaining how to do it or perhaps just aren't willing to tell so. Inventors are very secretive while their investors want to know everything to finance them which make it a bad combination. Thus don't expect such a device to come from that path. It's probably a full time job to make such a device. Without much time a long while may go before achieving good results. We just have to keep on trying. I'm going somewhere along the way of the Clemente Figuera patents with slow progress. I wonder how long Pierre Cotnoir has come with his next device.

Regards
Ole



---In [email protected], <schoonersolsticemoon@...> wrote :

OleBack to the trick, mixing waves to coheraence, how do we set this experiment up?It is very useful to have a concept to work to, namely, coherence, when attempting to coax energy out of a device.If this is it, I feel like I have been groping in the dark, with energy machines, for the last 15 years!Ha,ha.  To put an illustration to where we are not quite at now.In the late 70's I spent about $600 
Canadian, for a tube type helium neon laser. It was only 3 watts but was enough to make a single key of a vey expensive computer, at that time, simply light up, for a three second shot, in a television commercial, on command.I was considered a well paid hero, at that time, saving the production company thousands of dollars, by not having to trash several computers, which they had budgeted for, to do such a thing, as cutting the keyboards apart, and installing grain of wheat light bulbs inside special ones, made from clear acrylic, and so on.All these things are now common as dirt, at corner stores, with cat toy, lasers, selling for $1.25, and keyboards, if they exist at all, just light, on places we touch.How soon we take it all for granted.So to imagine it, is almost most of the way to making it happen.In a down to earth way, can we wind coils, to make transformers to achieve coherence,?What about spiral pancake TESLA coils? Do you think this could be possible? What would the trick have to be?Cheers Warren

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On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 at 6:29 AM, onielsen@... [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote: 
Hi Warren,

Ocean waves just rides through each other by crossing on top of each other. That's also what happens when crossing two beams of light. This is superposition (https://wiki2.org/en/Superposition_principle) where the energy just adds up. For coherence (https://wiki2.org/en/Coherence_(physics)) the single waves are mixed into just one wave which is how the energy becomes more than when just adding up the energy of each single wave. This is like a LASER beam where each single wave merges to become one single coherent wave that doesn't split apart.

The trick is to input the single waves then mix them into a coherent wave before using the energy. This happens in LASERs. When the wave is coherent it doesn't split up into the components forming it. Waves formed by superposition splits up after riding through each other to become the initial single waves after the passage.

Regards
Ole



---In [email protected], <schoonersolsticemoon@...> wrote :

OleOn the ocean, when sailing off shore, is has been reported that occasional waves are many times larger than the prevailing conditions.They are called rogue waves,  and have capsized vessels.The scientific theory seems to match the concept of coherance of waves, of a magnetic field, too.Cheers Warren

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On Sun, 25 Nov 2018 at 9:31 PM, onielsen@... [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote: 
Hi Bob,

"What if the Arc/Spark is part of the actual process in getting more energy?"

Of course this is a possibility. Chernetsky's self-generating discharge plasma claims just that (http://rexresearch.com/chernetskii/chernetskii.htm). Also plasma tubes has some regions with negative resistance characteristic and electron tubes can strip off the electron emitting layer and use this as an energy source. But perhaps burning or consuming the materials in other ways is just as efficient?!

Personally I like the Inversion principle of W.B. Smith as he claims that this principle can take out energy from the cosmic background of space. That background is electrons and positrons according to Smith and those particles are what makes up the physical world we're part of. The trick is to mix two fields of the same kind same size and same direction to become coherent. This happens in electromagnetic coils and many other places. Take two similar coils having the same current through them. Each one represents one unit of energy or a total of two units of energy. Now put the same two coils on only one of the cores and the inductance is quadrupled when the fields are reinforcing each other. Put the same current as before through the 'new' coil and the stored energy is four times that of a single coil on the same core. I.e. that's four units of energy. The current hasn't changed. Only the space changed to share both coils. Smith never built such a device before his death as far as I know. The principle of inversion is explained in chapter ten of his book: http://www.rexresearch.com/smith/newsci~1.htm#ch10forces

Tariel Kapanadze may use that same principle in his electronic self-runners. Dr. Andrey Melnichenko accidentally discovered that same principle when melting a microwave waveguide by having three microwave transmitters send their waves through that rectangular copper tube without having enough power to melt it. The waves became coherent and thus actually did melt the tube. Three similar waves becoming coherent is 9 times the power of a single wave.

Regards
Ole




---In [email protected], <bob.paddock@...> wrote :


> Why not replace the relay with a switching transistor. Mechanical switches wear fast compared to a semiconductor switch.


What if the Arc/Spark is part of the actual process in getting more energy?

Every O/U thing I've ever though worked usually had a Plasm or Arc/Spark.
Usually not intentionally and the designer always wanted to get rid of it.



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PLEASE, all, we are trying to enhance,purposely provoke and attempt to 
capture the event, NOT mitigate or prevent it from happening.   In all 
of the studies of the Ferroresonant phenomenon, all effort is to 
prevent, mitigate the effects.  Why do you insist on using solid state 
devices or circuits which need protection.  Just like the Russians who 
still use mini vacuum tubes in critical EMP vulnerable aviation 
equipment, I would fall back to using the trusted Vacuum Thyratron 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thyratron 
https://dbtubes.com/en/thyratron-vacuum-tube/     This whole Neutral 
Spike (EMP event) study is to prove that an extra ordinary form of 
energy is manifest at the point of magnetic flux annihilation (In the 
plasma of the arc).  It is called the reconnect phase. The preponderance 
of the knowledge of this subject has been the study of the magnetic 
ropes (plasma) of the sun and the EMP burst from the 
annihilation/reconnect phenomenon. The old saying, As above so below 
certainly applies here for these plasma conditions have been 
accomplished in research labs to prove out exactly what happens.  Run 
with what we have learned by applying the info in your device design and 
methodology.   As strong as a blacksmith anvil.

On 11/26/2018 7:21 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Hi Mick,
>
> TVS diodes are rated for some max power dissipation and perhaps some 
> max energy too (fusing energy I^2t). If applying more energy than the 
> max i^2t rating it melts. As being fast Zener diodes they clamp the 
> voltage at some level while having current through them at the same 
> time which means power dissipation in them. If reading EMC (EMI) 
> theory several stages are needed to protect for powerful EMP 
> transients. The first step is a spark gap. The spark gap is followed 
> by a varistor that is followed by a TVS or Zener diode. The spark gap 
> breaks down to low impedance which reflects or dissipates much of the 
> energy of the signal. The varistor is a solid state spark in some 
> metal grains and has the same purpose as the spark gap. the TVS or 
> Zener diode stage removes the rest of the energy to protect the 
> sensitive electronics. It is essential to know how the electromagnetic 
> radiation is transferred between the different stages to prevent it 
> from reaching the sensitive electronics. Every current loop transmits 
> the energy as a very penetrating magnetic field. That magnetic energy 
> has to be dissipated or reflected which can be done with electrical 
> conductive materials like iron or aluminum. The field induces current 
> in the screening material which requires only connecting the circuit 
> inside the screen to a single point. Audio guys probably have 
> experienced this when building amplifiers.
>
> A thyristor (SCR) crowbar is also a good protection. It shorts the 
> pulse just like a spark gap and then blows a fuse to disconnect the 
> circuit to be protected..
>
> Regards
> Ole
>
>
>
> ---In [email protected], <mkjekyll@...> wrote :
>
> Hi Norm,
>
> This paper is one of your excellent references.
>
> I would like to replicate the events through the plasma that I 
> achieved as it creates a huge magnetic pulse that can be harvested but 
> as you say gets to kill the solid state stuff as if the TVS diodes 
> were not even there. At least the ferroresonant amplification without 
> the plasma gap just cooks the TVS diodes like popcorn even though 
> rated at 1000 amps with only about 2 amp 23v input, but spared the 
> rest, I guess it chose at the diodes to manifest.  Oh yeah the 
> ferrotranny was connected with 30 guage wire wrap wire when the 1000 
> amps TVS diodes exploded from 46w and wire was fine. Have not built 
> the tube circuits yet just working on the solid state grid control 
> circuits first then plan to decouple with something similar to cascode 
> so hopefully the superfast gate driver does not cook.
>
> Not sure if Ole's snubber network would stop the event but have the 
> feeling so since caps will suppress the rise time and kill ringing, 
> but have not tried so can't say.  Seems to me the event is created 
> right at the switch and the rise in voltage is like the inertia x 
> acceleration before the end of a whip cracks and necessary.
>
>
> "Why does death need time?  Death needs time for what it kills to grow 
> in."
>
>
> On 11/26/2018 4:44 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... <mailto:nwootan@...> 
> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
>>     Precisely, Bob Paddock.  Please read this document to understand
>>     that a local plasma event must occur (Arc in the gap) for the
>>     manifestation of this energy. Please read:
>>     http://www-brs.ub.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/netahtml/HSS/Diss/TassiEmanuele/diss.pdf
>>
>>     On 11/25/2018 7:36 PM, Bob Paddock bob.paddock@...
>>     <mailto:bob.paddock@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>>     > Why not replace the relay with a switching transistor. Mechanical switches wear fast compared to
>>>     a semiconductor switch.
>>>
>>>     What if the Arc/Spark is part of the actual process in getting
>>>     more energy?
>>>
>>>     Every O/U thing I've ever though worked usually had a Plasm or
>>>     Arc/Spark.
>>>     Usually not intentionally and the designer always wanted to get
>>>     rid of it.
>>>
>