charging a coil like a cap

Hey All
have you seen Russ with his new Video ,interesting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKlfHk7l8bg&feature=youtu.be&a=
Steve

I'm being to think this OU is coming from flipping atoms back and  forth
.Bedini said the more copper the more power Newman said the same and there
using positive DC which would line up the beta for extraction . the higher
voltage positive energy may be flipping atoms and releasing vacuum energy
they found this true in searn ? atom smasher but don't talk about it .the
info was released by a scientist .
On May 17, 2018 7:40 AM, "[email protected] [EVGRAY]" <
[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> Hey All
> have you seen Russ with his new Video ,interesting
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKlfHk7l8bg&feature=youtu.be&a=
> Steve
> 
>

There is more to it and near all theory's are extremely flawed , the only true postulate is 

(Ein + e↓ ) - Ein = OU    © ark.

over-unity is energy acquired from other domain than that of the one providing the original energy and exceeding it .

The mechanics pertaining to it are Lorenz transformation ones ...

there are certain experiments to polarize aether flow using Quantal diodes beyond mere electret configuration using other advance methods i know ...
but not having R&D funds equates to no experimentation and no publication. 


yep ! it sucks shit from a horse fucken gay donkey ass! 

(H) 

 
 

---In [email protected], <jglinski01@...> wrote :

 I'm being to think this OU is coming from flipping atoms back and  forth .Bedini said the more copper the more power Newman said the same and there using positive DC which would line up the beta for extraction . the higher voltage positive energy may be flipping atoms and releasing vacuum energy they found this true in searn ? atom smasher but don't talk about it .the info was released by a scientist .
 On May 17, 2018 7:40 AM, "cltractor@... mailto:cltractor@... [EVGRAY]" <[email protected] mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
   
 Hey All
 have you seen Russ with his new Video ,interesting
 https://www.youtube.com/watch? v=pKlfHk7l8bg&feature=youtu. be&a= https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKlfHk7l8bg&feature=youtu.be&a=
 Steve

Hector,

I learned along time ago people are not going to knock down your door 
just for being smart or innovative unless they feel a big threat like 
with something they want to suppress.  You know enough high tech 
fantastic things.  Think of something simple and innovative, develop it 
for market, that is how this place works,you chose to come here, 
quitchurbitchin and make it happen.  You can make the world a more 
interesting place and get rich while you're at it.  Defeatism doesn't do 
fuck all besides produce votes from cant make it happen losers for 
politicians.

For most people the bench is the hard part and product development easy, 
you resolved the hard part already.  In other words your 3/4 there, how 
many wish they had that problem...  Ask Norm he knows what to do.


On 5/17/2018 7:30 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> There is more to it and near all theory's are extremely flawed , the 
> only true postulate is
>
> (Ein + e↓ ) - Ein = OU    © ark.
>
> over-unity is energy acquired from other domain than that of the one 
> providing the original energy and exceeding it .
>
> The mechanics pertaining to it are Lorenz transformation ones ...
>
> there are certain experiments to polarize aether flow using Quantal 
> diodes beyond mere electret configuration using other advance methods 
> i know ...
> but not having R&D funds equates to no experimentation and no 
> publication.
>
>
> yep ! it sucks shit from a horse fucken gay donkey ass!
>
> (H)
>
>
>
>
> ---In [email protected], <jglinski01@...> wrote :
>
> I'm being to think this OU is coming from flipping atoms back and  
> forth .Bedini said the more copper the more power Newman said the same 
> and there using positive DC which would line up the beta for 
> extraction . the higher voltage positive energy may be flipping atoms 
> and releasing vacuum energy they found this true in searn ? atom 
> smasher but don't talk about it .the info was released by a scientist .
>
>     On May 17, 2018 7:40 AM, "cltractor@... <mailto:cltractor@...>
>     [EVGRAY]" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>     wrote:
>
>         Hey All
>         have you seen Russ with his new Video ,interesting
>         https://www.youtube.com/watch? v=pKlfHk7l8bg&feature=youtu.
>         be&a=
>         <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKlfHk7l8bg&feature=youtu.be&a=>
>         Steve
>
>

MickFortunately, not all the country side is controlled by organized criminal gangs who might just knock down your doors.Most people thrive in a dignified, happy environment, secure both in their homes, and public spaces.When government is not just a collection of your friends and neighbours, doing a job for the common good, but, well, other, you then have a sense of alienation.This democracy thing is a pain in the butt, because it demands sweat equity, or work hours, to belong.With fuedalism, or the tyranny of a dictatorship, it is not your job, or will it likely ever be, without some blood loss.By comparison, a little time spent paying attention to civic matters, and voting, seems fairly painless.There will always be frauds, and cheats, but we need not put them in charge.When it comes to making magic, working elbow, to elbow, among other magicians, how do you show that the bunny you have pulled out of the hat is the real thing?Everybody wants an endless source of bunnies.What should be done next?Cheers Warren
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 7:25 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
 

Hector,
 
I learned along time ago people are not going to knock down your door just for being smart or innovative unless they feel a big threat like with something they want to suppress.  You know enough high tech fantastic things.  Think of something simple and innovative, develop it for market, that is how this place works, you chose to come here, quitchurbitchin and make it happen.  You can make the world a more interesting place and get rich while you're at it.  Defeatism doesn't do fuck all besides produce votes from cant make it happen losers for politicians.
 
For most people the bench is the hard part and product development easy, you resolved the hard part already.  In other words your 3/4 there, how many wish they had that problem...  Ask Norm he knows what to do.
 
 
 On 5/17/2018 7:30 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
There is more to it and near all theory's are extremely flawed , the only true postulate is 
 
 (Ein + e↓ ) - Ein = OU    © ark.
 
 over-unity is energy acquired from other domain than that of the one providing the original energy and exceeding it .
 
 The mechanics pertaining to it are Lorenz transformation ones ...
 
 there are certain experiments to polarize aether flow using Quantal diodes beyond mere electret configuration using other advance methods i know ...
 but not having R&D funds equates to no experimentation and no publication. 
 
 
 yep ! it sucks shit from a horse fucken gay donkey ass! 
 
 (H) 
 
  
 
 
 
 ---In [email protected], <jglinski01@...> wrote :
 
  
I'm being to think this OU is coming from flipping atoms back and  forth .Bedini said the more copper the more power Newman said the same and there using positive DC which would line up the beta for extraction . the higher voltage positive energy may be flipping atoms and releasing vacuum energy they found this true in searn ? atom smasher but don't talk about it .the info was released by a scientist .
 
 On May 17, 2018 7:40 AM, "cltractor@... [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
 
       Hey All have you seen Russ with his new Video ,interesting https://www.youtube.com/watch? v=pKlfHk7l8bg&feature=youtu. be&a= Steve      
  
    
 
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Yes that's like what they were saying about this called it a cold energy
pump each time the atoms flipped it left some beta energy from the vacuum
.because there was no change in the atom you could use the same material
forever without loss of any of it .an carbon was low on the list of
possible elements lithium wass the highest ..way high . I was thinking with
this having to have a coil or other magnetic device around it to direct the
beta flow .and the higher the voltage the better it works ..one guy said
over 100 volts it really gets going .well the back EMF spiking like in
bedini's work with bifile coils was like 300 and up volts this might
contribute to the over all energy release .same with the Newman
configuration he said the more copper the greater the return energy . they
may have been dancing around this effect unawares .if you were to add one
of these carbon rod spark gaps with the right amount of magnet control in
to the out put of a Bedini or any POS pulse high voltage out put you could
measure how long it takes to charge a big cap with and with out the
magnetic field on to determine results .it may be at the heart of all of it
. .in stead of arking between two carbon rods might put a neon between them
for the ark to save the carbon ?.
On May 18, 2018 12:48 PM, "Warren Keillor [email protected]
[EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> Mick
> Fortunately, not all the country side is controlled by organized criminal
> gangs who might just knock down your doors.
> Most people thrive in a dignified, happy environment, secure both in their
> homes, and public spaces.
> When government is not just a collection of your friends and neighbours,
> doing a job for the common good, but, well, other, you then have a sense of
> alienation.
> This democracy thing is a pain in the butt, because it demands sweat
> equity, or work hours, to belong.
> With fuedalism, or the tyranny of a dictatorship, it is not your job, or
> will it likely ever be, without some blood loss.
> By comparison, a little time spent paying attention to civic matters, and
> voting, seems fairly painless.
> There will always be frauds, and cheats, but we need not put them in
> charge.
> When it comes to making magic, working elbow, to elbow, among other
> magicians, how do you show that the bunny you have pulled out of the hat is
> the real thing?
> Everybody wants an endless source of bunnies.
> What should be done next?
> Cheers Warren
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>
> On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 7:25 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Hector,
>
> I learned along time ago people are not going to knock down your door just
> for being smart or innovative unless they feel a big threat like with
> something they want to suppress.  You know enough high tech fantastic
> things.  Think of something simple and innovative, develop it for market,
> that is how this place works, you chose to come here, quitchurbitchin and
> make it happen.  You can make the world a more interesting place and get
> rich while you're at it.  Defeatism doesn't do fuck all besides produce
> votes from cant make it happen losers for politicians.
>
> For most people the bench is the hard part and product development easy,
> you resolved the hard part already.  In other words your 3/4 there, how
> many wish they had that problem...  Ask Norm he knows what to do.
>
> On 5/17/2018 7:30 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
>
>
> There is more to it and near all theory's are extremely flawed , the only
> true postulate is
>
> (Ein + e↓ ) - Ein = OU    © ark..
>
> over-unity is energy acquired from other domain than that of the one
> providing the original energy and exceeding it .
>
> The mechanics pertaining to it are Lorenz transformation ones ...
>
> there are certain experiments to polarize aether flow using Quantal diodes
> beyond mere electret configuration using other advance methods i know ...
> but not having R&D funds equates to no experimentation and no publication.
>
>
> yep ! it sucks shit from a horse fucken gay donkey ass!
>
> (H)
>
>
>
>
> ---In [email protected], <jglinski01@...> <jglinski01@...> wrote :
>
> I'm being to think this OU is coming from flipping atoms back and  forth
> .Bedini said the more copper the more power Newman said the same and there
> using positive DC which would line up the beta for extraction . the higher
> voltage positive energy may be flipping atoms and releasing vacuum energy
> they found this true in searn ? atom smasher but don't talk about it .the
> info was released by a scientist .
>
> On May 17, 2018 7:40 AM, "cltractor@... [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
> Hey All
> have you seen Russ with his new Video ,interesting
> https://www.youtube.com/watch? v=pKlfHk7l8bg&feature=youtu. be&a=
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKlfHk7l8bg&feature=youtu.be&a=>
> Steve
>
>
> 
>

Hi Guys,

a really interesting topic, the inductor as a capacitor in high impedance probably more capacitor like inductor.

In the Rotoverter pdfs I have read that the cold current or free energy in high-impedance coils is the best or best to see. I wonder if it is due to the parasitic capacitances that forms between each winding.

I have seen the video and I find it very interesting, well explained to me with my poor English language skills.

regards

Sven

Warren, 

 I meant to say beat down your door, as in hey this guy has something great lets hire him.
 

 Point is one either works for someone or makes it on their own.  Most people are not prepared to work it solo. As you know it takes a jack of all trades and one who can also stand firmly in the public too as a salesperson and contractor.  It's much easier to show up to work do the time and go home and not have to think about work 24-7
 

 I will be the first one to admit there are others much better than me at several tasks though I prefer to stand alone at a disadvantage sometimes in exchange for more freedom.
 

 What should be done next is the people who have something serious go out into the world and spread the goodness.  If Pops has something then he is on the right track, go make it happen.  He chooses one way which is one on one, if it works for him then great.
 

 My technique would be more hands off, just build a few to prove the point then give it away and be known as the goto guy for that kind of tech.  As I stated previously I think trademarks are much more valuable than are patents if one has the right pubic relations riffs.
 

 Of course there is supression and it's pretty much international in scope, since the USD is a petrodollar, not using oil is considered enemy territory.  So one best take precautions if building something serious enough to power a home.

MickThe one on one technique works, is more fun, and that can't be bad unless you hate what you do.
Cheers Warren
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Sun, May 20, 2018 at 5:23 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
Warren,

I meant to say beat down your door, as in hey this guy has something great lets hire him.
Point is one either works for someone or makes it on their own.  Most people are not prepared to work it solo. As you know it takes a jack of all trades and one who can also stand firmly in the public too as a salesperson and contractor.  It's much easier to show up to work do the time and go home and not have to think about work 24-7
I will be the first one to admit there are others much better than me at several tasks though I prefer to stand alone at a disadvantage sometimes in exchange for more freedom.
What should be done next is the people who have something serious go out into the world and spread the goodness.  If Pops has something then he is on the right track, go make it happen.  He chooses one way which is one on one, if it works for him then great.
My technique would be more hands off, just build a few to prove the point then give it away and be known as the goto guy for that kind of tech.  As I stated previously I think trademarks are much more valuable than are patents if one has the right pubic relations riffs.
Of course there is supression and it's pretty much international in scope, since the USD is a petrodollar, not using oil is considered enemy territory.  So one best take precautions if building something serious enough to power a home.


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MickI guess it gets down to what we wish to achieve.My ego would like an accurate hiostory of my contributions, such as they are. Non of us work in a vacuum without each other's thought's and experiences, on a certain topic.It becomes a collective design project open to all.Like democracy, this is an on going experiment. People all over the World are putting their minds, funds(such as they are), and life energies into solving a grave problem of civilization.We are in a position, not unlike yeast mold, in a vat of fruit sugar juices, producing a waste material, and a toxin, that eventually kills off the population, within that vat, as the toxicity reaches morbid levels.Who would think such drama produces wine, or beer, a hedonist's delight, for another species.Our human delights are many, and various. Energy in its many forms, a distilled expression of human life, that taps into the very essence of a biological entity's abililities to explore all aspects of reality as we percieve it, is one of them.To be able to communicate any thoughts to my fellow creatures, I find myself in the clutches of a corporate entity, demanding about $50 Canadian a month to get Internet access.Who are these parsites, and how did they evolve?Then there is YahooCanadian Yahoo is claiming to be owned now by "Oath" which kind of rythms with loathe, and keeps flashing up a page to click on, where it demands I give them approval to use my substance in any way they can.Just in case there is any doubt regarding this demand, they can, in the words of a former Prime Minister, simply," FUCK OFF!" Or as Nancy Reagan would once say in her nice way "just say No"What is being discussed is the value to an insensitive corporate entity of the association with groups such as this energy group. The new owner is discovering that the lands they have purchased have an indigenous population that have lived on them for millennium. They are after immediate cash resources, and don't understand the subtle aspects of touchy feely branding that maintaining free altruistic groups provided, as the original creators of yahoo imagined.Its like the mob just moved in, kicked down the door, turned the desk drawer upside down looking for da cash.They are threatening the very conceptual basis of our yahoo group by removing our history files.We can only prove priority and public disclosure, if we have the documents.Click! No documents. No documents found! Corporation 1, altruists 0One, on one, certainy has a strong case, which is rather appealling.Cheers WarrenSent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Sun, May 20, 2018 at 9:37 PM, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
Mick
The one on one technique works, is more fun, and that can't be bad unless you hate what you do.
Cheers Warren
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Sun, May 20, 2018 at 5:23 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
Warren,

I meant to say beat down your door, as in hey this guy has something great lets hire him.
Point is one either works for someone or makes it on their own.  Most people are not prepared to work it solo. As you know it takes a jack of all trades and one who can also stand firmly in the public too as a salesperson and contractor.  It's much easier to show up to work do the time and go home and not have to think about work 24-7
I will be the first one to admit there are others much better than me at several tasks though I prefer to stand alone at a disadvantage sometimes in exchange for more freedom.
What should be done next is the people who have something serious go out into the world and spread the goodness.  If Pops has something then he is on the right track, go make it happen.  He chooses one way which is one on one, if it works for him then great.
My technique would be more hands off, just build a few to prove the point then give it away and be known as the goto guy for that kind of tech.  As I stated previously I think trademarks are much more valuable than are patents if one has the right pubic relations riffs.
Of course there is supression and it's pretty much international in scope, since the USD is a petrodollar, not using oil is considered enemy territory.  So one best take precautions if building something serious enough to power a home.


    
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Hi Warren,

"We can only prove priority and public disclosure, if we have the documents."
I don't know if making a backup of our group is good enough to prove priority. Perhaps if making several backups at different dates will do it and the dates of all the messages stays the same?

Search for ways to download the group messages files etc.: https://www.google.dk/search?source=hp&ei=XKUCW_y-J8-tkwXMgJmgCA&q=yahoo+groups+backup&oq=yahoo+groups+back&gs_l=psy-ab.3.0.0i22i30k1l2.1375.23965.0.27903.12.12.0.0.0.0.179.1196.9j3.12.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..0.12.1192...0j0i10k1.0.5cOsUpK7yRg https://www.google.dk/search?source=hp&ei=XKUCW_y-J8-tkwXMgJmgCA&q=yahoo+groups+backup&oq=yahoo+groups+back&gs_l=psy-ab.3.0.0i22i30k1l2.1375.23965.0.27903.12.12.0.0.0.0.179.1196.9j3.12.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..0.12.1192...0j0i10k1.0.5cOsUpK7yRg

Regards
Ole
 

---In [email protected], <schoonersolsticemoon@...> wrote :

 Mick I guess it gets down to what we wish to achieve.
 My ego would like an accurate hiostory of my contributions, such as they are. 
 Non of us work in a vacuum without each other's thought's and experiences, on a certain topic.
 It becomes a collective design project open to all.
 Like democracy, this is an on going experiment. People all over the World are putting their minds, funds(such as they are), and life energies into solving a grave problem of civilization.
 We are in a position, not unlike yeast mold, in a vat of fruit sugar juices, producing a waste material, and a toxin, that eventually kills off the population, within that vat, as the toxicity reaches morbid levels.
 Who would think such drama produces wine, or beer, a hedonist's delight, for another species.
 Our human delights are many, and various.
  Energy in its many forms, a distilled expression of human life, that taps into the very essence of a biological entity's abililities to explore all aspects of reality as we percieve it, is one of them.
 To be able to communicate any thoughts to my fellow creatures, I find myself in the clutches of a corporate entity, demanding about $50 Canadian a month to get Internet access.
 Who are these parsites, and how did they evolve?
 Then there is Yahoo
 Canadian Yahoo is claiming to be owned now by "Oath" which kind of rythms with loathe, and keeps flashing up a page to click on, where it demands I give them approval to use my substance in any way they can.
 Just in case there is any doubt regarding this demand, they can, in the words of a former Prime Minister, simply," FUCK OFF!" Or as Nancy Reagan would once say in her nice way "just say No"
 What is being discussed is the value to an insensitive corporate entity of the association with groups such as this energy group. 
 The new owner is discovering that the lands they have purchased have an indigenous population that have lived on them for millennium. They are after immediate cash resources, and don't understand the subtle aspects of touchy feely branding that maintaining free altruistic groups provided, as the original creators of yahoo imagined.
 Its like the mob just moved in, kicked down the door, turned the desk drawer upside down looking for da cash.
 They are threatening the very conceptual basis of our yahoo group by removing our history files.
 We can only prove priority and public disclosure, if we have the documents.
 Click! No documents. No documents found! Corporation 1, altruists 0
 One, on one, certainy has a strong case, which is rather appealling.
 Cheers Warren
 Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature
 
 On Sun, May 20, 2018 at 9:37 PM, Warren Keillor schoonersolsticemoon@... [EVGRAY]
 <[email protected]> wrote:

   Mick
 The one on one technique works, is more fun, and that can't be bad unless you hate what you do.
Cheers Warren
 Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature
 
 On Sun, May 20, 2018 at 5:23 PM, mkjekyll@... [EVGRAY]
 <[email protected]> wrote:

   Warren,
 

 I meant to say beat down your door, as in hey this guy has something great lets hire him.
 

 Point is one either works for someone or makes it on their own.  Most people are not prepared to work it solo. As you know it takes a jack of all trades and one who can also stand firmly in the public too as a salesperson and contractor.  It's much easier to show up to work do the time and go home and not have to think about work 24-7
 

 I will be the first one to admit there are others much better than me at several tasks though I prefer to stand alone at a disadvantage sometimes in exchange for more freedom.
 

 What should be done next is the people who have something serious go out into the world and spread the goodness.  If Pops has something then he is on the right track, go make it happen.  He chooses one way which is one on one, if it works for him then great.
 

 My technique would be more hands off, just build a few to prove the point then give it away and be known as the goto guy for that kind of tech.  As I stated previously I think trademarks are much more valuable than are patents if one has the right pubic relations riffs.
 

 Of course there is supression and it's pretty much international in scope, since the USD is a petrodollar, not using oil is considered enemy territory.  So one best take precautions if building something serious enough to power a home.

What have you done about the OATH thing Mick?  I just click on "I'll do this later"
George

    On Monday, 21 May 2018, 19:39:34 GMT+10, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:  
 
     

Mick
I guess it gets down to what we wish to achieve.My ego would like an accurate hiostory of my contributions, such as they are. Non of us work in a vacuum without each other's thought's and experiences, on a certain topic.It becomes a collective design project open to all.Like democracy, this is an on going experiment. People all over the World are putting their minds, funds(such as they are), and life energies into solving a grave problem of civilization.We are in a position, not unlike yeast mold, in a vat of fruit sugar juices, producing a waste material, and a toxin, that eventually kills off the population, within that vat, as the toxicity reaches morbid levels.Who would think such drama produces wine, or beer, a hedonist's delight, for another species.Our human delights are many, and various. Energy in its many forms, a distilled expression of human life, that taps into the very essence of a biological entity's abililities to explore all aspects of reality as we percieve it, is one of them.To be able to communicate any thoughts to my fellow creatures, I find myself in the clutches of a corporate entity, demanding about $50 Canadian a month to get Internet access.Who are these parsites, and how did they evolve?Then there is YahooCanadian Yahoo is claiming to be owned now by "Oath" which kind of rythms with loathe, and keeps flashing up a page to click on, where it demands I give them approval to use my substance in any way they can.Just in case there is any doubt regarding this demand, they can, in the words of a former Prime Minister, simply," FUCK OFF!" Or as Nancy Reagan would once say in her nice way "just say No"What is being discussed is the value to an insensitive corporate entity of the association with groups such as this energy group. The new owner is discovering that the lands they have purchased have an indigenous population that have lived on them for millennium. They are after immediate cash resources, and don't understand the subtle aspects of touchy feely branding that maintaining free altruistic groups provided, as the original creators of yahoo imagined.Its like the mob just moved in, kicked down the door, turned the desk drawer upside down looking for da cash.They are threatening the very conceptual basis of our yahoo group by removing our history files.We can only prove priority and public disclosure, if we have the documents.Click! No documents. No documents found! Corporation 1, altruists 0One, on one, certainy has a strong case, which is rather appealling.Cheers WarrenSent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Sun, May 20, 2018 at 9:37 PM, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
Mick
The one on one technique works, is more fun, and that can't be bad unless you hate what you do.
Cheers Warren
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Sun, May 20, 2018 at 5:23 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
Warren,

I meant to say beat down your door, as in hey this guy has something great lets hire him.
Point is one either works for someone or makes it on their own.  Most people are not prepared to work it solo. As you know it takes a jack of all trades and one who can also stand firmly in the public too as a salesperson and contractor.  It's much easier to show up to work do the time and go home and not have to think about work 24-7
I will be the first one to admit there are others much better than me at several tasks though I prefer to stand alone at a disadvantage sometimes in exchange for more freedom.
What should be done next is the people who have something serious go out into the world and spread the goodness.  If Pops has something then he is on the right track, go make it happen.  He chooses one way which is one on one, if it works for him then great.
My technique would be more hands off, just build a few to prove the point then give it away and be known as the goto guy for that kind of tech.  As I stated previously I think trademarks are much more valuable than are patents if one has the right pubic relations riffs.
Of course there is supression and it's pretty much international in scope, since the USD is a petrodollar, not using oil is considered enemy territory.  So one best take precautions if building something serious enough to power a home.

Hi Warren, 

 I did not know about the background of the newsgroups going to hell.  I am not against paying for internet access as the infrastructure takes a lot of messing with to keep going, I had an IT company and know the amount of work involved.  I quite like my little dish, it may be slower than a cable modem but it's the best we can do out here without buying a property across the canyon and putting a modem down there and a link ourselves.  Anyhow the guy that owns the company comes out and perfoms the work and is hands on through three counties, a super smart hard working guy.  I won't besmurch him his 65 bucks for my connection.
 

 This is why we live in a competative democratic state, if you can do better you are free to do so. 
 In respect to the group perhaps we should look elseware, maybe one of those Ukrain server farms that host the dark web no one fucks with.  It is very sad so much has been removed from this site.  I have read some genuis posts from a few where the rest is missing.  I imagine a bunch of Hectors posts have been removed.
 I don't know if this is a result of new members having too much access such as the write ability on other peoples folders or if it was some MIB nefarious source that deleted files.  I came late to the party so have less insight.
 

 I'lll bet Kone would be able to find a good private place to put this stuff through Svet.  Due to the satanic Kissenger this country is locked down with barbaric tribes that stone people to death in the middle of a desert.  They can come to Vegas and shoot a bunch of people enjoing a concert with not a word said.  This particular issue with petrolium being tied to our currency is an extreme probelm and because of this not a place to trust for a server location.  I doubt Canada is any better as the UK is in cahoots with the US on this front and the queen has the last word in Canada, just ask that PM she fired.
 I don't know how much server space in a safe country costs, actually it's not the safety of the location but rather not knowing the location that keeps things safe in the Onion world. As long as there is an active backup along with the service one can use to rebuild I don't think we will have any problems.  That French energy experimenter,  Jean Naudin, his site has longevity and has many experiments that should be sensored according to what works.
 

 I have noticed a pattern to the supressors as the stuff that doesn't work stays up like all the Don Smith crap and Zilano etc.  The stuff that works on the level of Prater gets hacked and the site replced with asian pages, usually Japanese.  Oddly enough while reading patents some of the really interesting ones are in Japan where it seems unknown energy sources are not illegalized under the perpetual motion clause used in the US to discredit.
 

 In any event I would not be against being part of a group to fund a new site if we can find a long lasting place to rehome that is relatively cheap.  I think the serious people here are amazing and have much to offer the world.
 Usenet would be a good place to move other than the easy web access allowing many more people to visit, I think this is important.  In order to move to a commercial place in the Ukrain it looks like the cost is about a hundred bucks a year.  If five of us can split this up, no big deal!

George, 

 I don't see what you are referring to.

Why do you think i decided to go tantric ? you think this zoo is run by angels ? i do nothing building anything as anyone with power can bring it down easy 
i have revealed a hundred things and people just let themselves be shlonged in the face by the huge dick of self deception , as useless as trying to get cow milk out of a bull  * (current system ) 

this system you live in runs in cycles , you aren't prepared to do shit to change it , every 26,000 years you all are erased & returned back to horny copulating monkeys. any soft biblical event can take all of you back to the stone age due to being centralized & stupidified into ignorance ..

not even able to manufacture the simplest things  (like toilet paper ! ) yes all your asses will rot away in a short time after an apocalyptic event .... unless you have pet rocks trained & able to lick & suck shit ....



(H) 




---In [email protected], <mkjekyll@...> wrote :

 Hector,
 I learned along time ago people are not going to knock down your door just for being smart or innovative unless they feel a big threat like with something they want to suppress.  You know enough high tech fantastic things.  Think of something simple and innovative, develop it for market, that is how this place works, you chose to come here, quitchurbitchin and make it happen.  You can make the world a more interesting place and get rich while you're at it.  Defeatism doesn't do fuck all besides produce votes from cant make it happen losers for politicians.
 For most people the bench is the hard part and product development easy, you resolved the hard part already.  In other words your 3/4 there, how many wish they had that problem...  Ask Norm he knows what to do.
 
 
 On 5/17/2018 7:30 PM, arkresearch@... mailto:arkresearch@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
 
   There is more to it and near all theory's are extremely flawed , the only true postulate is 
 
 (Ein + e↓ ) - Ein = OU    © ark.
 
 over-unity is energy acquired from other domain than that of the one providing the original energy and exceeding it .
 
 The mechanics pertaining to it are Lorenz transformation ones ...
 
 there are certain experiments to polarize aether flow using Quantal diodes beyond mere electret configuration using other advance methods i know ...
 but not having R&D funds equates to no experimentation and no publication. 
 
 
 yep ! it sucks shit from a horse fucken gay donkey ass! 
 
 (H) 
 
  
 
 
 
 ---In [email protected] mailto:[email protected], <jglinski01@...> mailto:jglinski01@... wrote :
 
 I'm being to think this OU is coming from flipping atoms back and  forth .Bedini said the more copper the more power Newman said the same and there using positive DC which would line up the beta for extraction . the higher voltage positive energy may be flipping atoms and releasing vacuum energy they found this true in searn ? atom smasher but don't talk about it .the info was released by a scientist .
 On May 17, 2018 7:40 AM, "cltractor@... mailto:cltractor@... [EVGRAY]" <[email protected] mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
   Hey All
 have you seen Russ with his new Video ,interesting
 https://www.youtube.com/watch? v=pKlfHk7l8bg&feature=youtu. be&a=
 Steve

Hector, 

 Suggest you look up JG Bennett and his postulates on change because it's possible but revolutionary violent change will only bring destruction. 

  There is a way and it works in stages and has to do with saturation, so why not release something that is unity or just under and it is up to the purchaser to fiddle about.
 

 After everyone has these little lights or heaters or whatnot because they are so cool and then...
 

  Perhaps you are already wealthy and have no inclination to do anything more and are winding down.
 

 You're in a silly monkey body too on planet of the fucking apes, so you either came here to change things up or get changed up, one or the other. 
 

 A respite from the military based sludge economy would be welcome by the many but is held up by the few. What is the function to overcome this differential without creating chaos rather just stepping things gently sideways?  Revolution will never be tolerated but change will, if performed in the proper sequence.
 

 Meanwhile we just need some bimagnetic cores for your dildoverter.

MickWhere did you hear Queen Elizabeth fired a Prime Minister? It would have been a great idea, but the Queen has no more power than the statue of liberty, in Canada, and affairs of its governance.Don Smith and Zilano?Remember Kirt in Calgary? He was a student of Zilano's back in 2012 when she was still using the Net.He is extremely busy with his business, yet he has been doing some experiments, continuing to learn about Don Smith, and Zilano. He is slowly making pragmatic progress, developing a solid foundation of understanding as he goes, producing some interesting results on youtube, careful to have a low wow factor, yet to those understanding what is being done, give that a capital WOW. I bumbled on Kirt's recent youtube by accident, and I see he is making slow but steady progress with the Don Smith coils, getting the secondary to light a light bulb without lenz.He also is working with lamp cord tesla spirals and an induction stove top, getting his stove top to keep running unlike what I was able to do with mine.Don't be surprised by results from these efforts. Expect them. These are real people, doing real work.Cheers Warren
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  On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 11:33 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
Hi Warren,

I did not know about the background of the newsgroups going to hell.  I am not against paying for internet access as the infrastructure takes a lot of messing with to keep going, I had an IT company and know the amount of work involved.  I quite like my little dish, it may be slower than a cable modem but it's the best we can do out here without buying a property across the canyon and putting a modem down there and a link ourselves.  Anyhow the guy that owns the company comes out and perfoms the work and is hands on through three counties, a super smart hard working guy.  I won't besmurch him his 65 bucks for my connection.
This is why we live in a competative democratic state, if you can do better you are free to do so. In respect to the group perhaps we should look elseware, maybe one of those Ukrain server farms that host the dark web no one fucks with.  It is very sad so much has been removed from this site.  I have read some genuis posts from a few where the rest is missing.  I imagine a bunch of Hectors posts have been removed.I don't know if this is a result of new members having too much access such as the write ability on other peoples folders or if it was some MIB nefarious source that deleted files.  I came late to the party so have less insight.
I'lll bet Kone would be able to find a good private place to put this stuff through Svet.  Due to the satanic Kissenger this country is locked down with barbaric tribes that stone people to death in the middle of a desert.  They can come to Vegas and shoot a bunch of people enjoing a concert with not a word said.  This particular issue with petrolium being tied to our currency is an extreme probelm and because of this not a place to trust for a server location.  I doubt Canada is any better as the UK is in cahoots with the US on this front and the queen has the last word in Canada, just ask that PM she fired.I don't know how much server space in a safe country costs, actually it's not the safety of the location but rather not knowing the location that keeps things safe in the Onion world. As long as there is an active backup along with the service one can use to rebuild I don't think we will have any problems.  That French energy experimenter,  Jean Naudin, his site has longevity and has many experiments that should be sensored according to what works.
I have noticed a pattern to the supressors as the stuff that doesn't work stays up like all the Don Smith crap and Zilano etc.  The stuff that works on the level of Prater gets hacked and the site replced with asian pages, usually Japanese.  Oddly enough while reading patents some of the really interesting ones are in Japan where it seems unknown energy sources are not illegalized under the perpetual motion clause used in the US to discredit.
In any event I would not be against being part of a group to fund a new site if we can find a long lasting place to rehome that is relatively cheap.  I think the serious people here are amazing and have much to offer the world.Usenet would be a good place to move other than the easy web access allowing many more people to visit, I think this is important.  In order to move to a commercial place in the Ukrain it looks like the cost is about a hundred bucks a year.  If five of us can split this up, no big deal!
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Warren,
  
 It was about 10 years or more ago when she fired someone up there at the top of government either the acting prime minister or governor general, I don't recall.
  
 The queen has much more power than a statue and can fire the prime minister through the governor general if she gets a bug up her arse.  Whether the Canadian people would stand for it is another story but she does have a multiplicity of legal powers.  I may be wrong but believe Canada is still a commonwealth which allows for some very old laws to still have teeth.  I should know more about Canada but do know the Canadian central bank was started in 34 back when the PTB absorbed the western and European banking which was much of the cause of WW2 when Germany refused to roll over.
  
 Who do you say your pledge of allegiance to in public schools?  Who is on your money?
 If one ignores the the owners of the Crown Corporations owned by the Sovereign, which in Canada means the Queen...  I think the United States is the only country in the world where an average living man or woman is/was considered a sovereign which is very important.  It is sad most Americans have no idea and shit this standing down the toilet back in the 30's.  Benjamin Franklin said we are operating under a Republic if we can keep it.  Sadly we have been very remiss. Most people here think we are operating as a democracy.  I will blame public schools for this naivety along with discounting the brilliance through scorn because someone like Jefferson owned a slave. Africans and American Indians dealt in slaves all the time, human nature what’s new…  blame the white man because the victims had clean hands only selling eachother for millenia.  Europeans just upped the ane of the system with ruthless assembly line brutality.   USA was started by the East India Company and went to war to become sovereign due to King Georges taxes.  Canada was started by the Hudson Bay Company and I don't think ever had any formal war or splitting of the sheets with the UK.
  
 Maybe Zilano is a real person but based on her writings if she made it work, it was by accident as she does not shed light on the following below. The Don Smith stuff doesn’t work because people don't know the secret which Don Smith readily admitted in his book which everyone seems to ignore and no one I have seen posts anything relevant so the posts remain up. ie "The isolation transformer comes alive when pulsed.  Amperage becomes part of the consideration only at the output transformer" -Don Smith
 What is he claiming here? same thing as Hector and Norm’s neutral spike same effect different terms Don Smith used differing nomenclature called it conjugant energy.  As Norm said it is the inverse of EM is why it does not appear on the scope. Harvesting  has to do with the core and hitting it with pulses strong enough to saturate the core so it enters into resonance and drops back down, pumped like a laser by flash bang the great dane.  That’s why one requires the stack of expensive caps to hit it hard enough. (they also modify the SWR of the spark gap to the earth to properly phase L1)  A pumped inductor can convert the earth displacement current into something useful.
 Not any transformer will work properly.  In the small devices like TarielK’s they are using a core that has a very asymmetric BH curve to switch polarity quickly and hard. Such as a magnet conditioned along the lines of the VTA which many other people know how to accomplish besides Sparky Sweet.  Start conditioning magnets and one will get visitors!
  
 Moly Permalloy is a good core material as is MuMetal with a slightly lower saturation Hyperco 50a has the highest saturation potential, Don Smith used Terfenol D due to the hysteresis and ringing property at the knee as it is the most magnetostrictive alloy generally known and piezoelectric.  
  Got to get the first coil set tranny to charge the caps as fast as possible then crack the whip on the spark gap and resistor loaded transformer sitting on the negative coupled side of the spark gap(neutral spike) as the collapsing field is phased (power corrected) to suck up all that lovely earth mother displacement energy.  Smith talked of magnetic resonance rather than electrical resonance not the E field, the damn B field.  Tesla concentrated on the B field, his displeasure with Marconi's abuse of his discoveries- his wireless used inductors to ground not concentrating the E field antenna side as we do now. Same with the earth radio guy Rogers of the 30s.  It’s the B field we want to concentrate on as Hector states amps without voltage.  Not sure why the alleged Don Smith experts never made that clear, perhaps this will help clarify the issue.

Mick,She certainly has the power to dismiss the goverment of her colonies, she did just that in Australia in 1975. Thru her Governor General dismissed the Prime Minister Gough Whitlam, dissolved the parliament and appointed a caretaker government until elections. All of this indirectly and behind the scenes so hardly anybody realized they were being rooted.http://whitlamdismissal.com/
cheers.




 

    On Wednesday, 23 May 2018, 3:58:10 am AEST, [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:  
 
 


Warren,
 
  
 
It was about 10 years ormore ago when she fired someone up there at the top of government either theacting prime minister or governor general, I don't recall.
 
  
 
The queen has much morepower than a statue and can fire the prime minister through the governorgeneral if she gets a bug up her arse.  Whether the Canadian people wouldstand for it is another story but she does have a multiplicity of legalpowers.  I may be wrong but believe Canada is still a commonwealth whichallows for some very old laws to still have teeth.  I should know moreabout Canada but do know the Canadian central bank was started in 34 back whenthe PTB absorbed the western and European banking which was much of the causeof WW2 when Germany refused to roll over.
 
  
 
Who do you say yourpledge of allegiance to in public schools?  Who is on your money?
 
If one ignores the theowners of the Crown Corporationsowned by the Sovereign, which in Canada means the Queen...  I think theUnited States is the only country in the world where an average living man orwoman is/was considered a sovereign which is very important.  It is sadmost Americans have no idea and shit this standing down the toilet back in the30's.  Benjamin Franklin said we are operating under a Republic if we cankeep it.  Sadly we have been very remiss. Most people here think weare operating as a democracy.  I willblame public schools for this naivety along with discounting the brilliancethrough scorn because someone like Jefferson owned a slave. Africans andAmerican Indians dealt in slaves all the time, human nature what’s new…  blame the white man because the victims had cleanhands only selling eachother for millenia. Europeans just upped the ane of the system with ruthless assembly linebrutality.   USA was started by theEast India Company and went to war to become sovereign due to King Georgestaxes.  Canada was started by the Hudson Bay Company and I don't thinkever had any formal war or splitting of the sheets with the UK.
 
  
 
Maybe Zilano is a realperson but based on her writings if she made it work, it was by accident as shedoes not shed light on the following below. The Don Smith stuff doesn’t workbecause people don't know the secret which Don Smith readily admitted in hisbook which everyone seems to ignore and no one I have seen posts anythingrelevant so the posts remain up. ie "The isolation transformer comes alivewhen pulsed.  Amperage becomes part of the consideration only at the output transformer" -DonSmith
 
What is he claiminghere? same thing as Hector and Norm’s neutral spike same effect different termsDon Smith used differing nomenclature called it conjugant energy.  As Norm said it is the inverse of EM is whyit does not appear on the scope. Harvesting  has to do with the core and hitting it with pulsesstrong enough to saturate the core so it enters into resonance and drops backdown, pumped like a laser by flash bang the great dane.  That’s why onerequires the stack of expensive caps to hit it hard enough. (they also modifythe SWR of the spark gap to the earth to properly phase L1)  A pumpedinductor can convert the earth displacement current into something useful.
 
Not any transformer willwork properly.  In the small devices like TarielK’s they are using a corethat has a very asymmetric BH curve to switch polarity quickly and hard. Suchas a magnet conditioned along the lines of the VTA which many other people knowhow to accomplish besides Sparky Sweet.  Start conditioning magnets andone will get visitors!
 
  
 
Moly Permalloy is a goodcore material as is MuMetal with a slightly lower saturation Hyperco 50a hasthe highest saturation potential, Don Smith used Terfenol D due to the hysteresisand ringing property at the knee as it is the most magnetostrictive alloygenerally known and piezoelectric.  
 
 Got to get the firstcoil set tranny to charge the caps as fast as possible then crack the whip onthe spark gap and resistor loaded transformer sitting on the negative coupledside of the spark gap(neutral spike) as the collapsing field is phased (power corrected)to suck up all that lovely earth mother displacement energy.  Smith talked of magnetic resonance rather than electrical resonance not the E field,the damn B field.  Tesla concentrated on the B field, his displeasure with Marconi's abuse of his discoveries- hiswireless used inductors to ground not concentrating the E field antenna side as we do now. Same with the earthradio guy Rogers of the 30s.  It’s the Bfield we want to concentrate on as Hector states amps without voltage.  Not sure why the alleged Don Smith expertsnever made that clear, perhaps this will help clarify the issue.

Eduardo, 

 Maybe it was Australia rather than Canada I was thinking of, but could have sworn similar in Canada.  Memory gets fuzzy with years.