Re: [EVGRAY] Re: The coil unit?

Hey Doug and Warren
 The heaters hanging in the ceiling are gas Hogs they send over half the heat out the stack,the heaters that have a burner in one end and then you run a duct all the way around the building then a fan in the exhaust end pulls air through it and all the heat is dispearsed by the time the air gets to end .Propane has more btus than natural gas per ft or therm ever how you measure it .Also a infrared heater is more efficient than a blue flame.I used to have all the charts on this but have been lost in the fray .A friend that has a manufacturing plant did all the leg work on this and shared it with me,We use infrared  at the shop.But from what Warren has shared with us his old shop has a really efficient Heat pump.
Steve

 

 

 

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HikWarren
Maybe you need one of those industrial gas burners with fan that runs off big propane or whatever tank, that you see in auto shops usually be hanging off ceiling....and/or the propane blower heaters they use in construction, to dry out rooms so drywall mud will dry....these will leave thin film of propane over everything sometimes but maybe point it at your stone walls, heat those up....
Electric heated work-overalls are good thing too....
Maybe make an "inner chamber" (igloo) just for you, a heater, and your tools bench and projects 
ciaoKone


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SteveAt present, it is only an off the shelf air toair heat pump. That is way better than any of the other options you have mentioned, as it uses less electricity than resistance heaters by at least 1/3 but can actually do way better than that, if you supercharge the concept, using slightly warmed air involving sunlight, getting heat from the sub soil under the frost, and so on, using your noodle.Cheers Warren

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  On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 10:07 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
Hey Doug and Warren
 The heaters hanging in the ceiling are gas Hogs they send over half the heat out the stack,the heaters that have a burner in one end and then you run a duct all the way around the building then a fan in the exhaust end pulls air through it and all the heat is dispearsed by the time the air gets to end .Propane has more btus than natural gas per ft or therm ever how you measure it .Also a infrared heater is more efficient than a blue flame.I used to have all the charts on this but have been lost in the fray .A friend that has a manufacturing plant did all the leg work on this and shared it with me,We use infrared  at the shop.But from what Warren has shared with us his old shop has a really efficient Heat pump.
Steve

 
 
 
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To: EVGRAY <[email protected]>
Sent: Thu, Mar 15, 2018 5:57 am
Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] Re: The coil unit?



HikWarrenMaybe you need one of those industrial gas burners with fan that runs off big propane or whatever tank, that you see in auto shops usually be hanging off ceiling....and/or the propane blower heaters they use in construction, to dry out rooms so drywall mud will dry....these will leave thin film of propane over everything sometimes but maybe point it at your stone walls, heat those up....Electric heated work-overalls are good thing too....Maybe make an "inner chamber" (igloo) just for you, a heater, and your tools bench and projects ciaoKone
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HI ALL you talk about heating I know how cold it gets up in canada I lived in calgary for 3yrs and saw -40 chinok ,DON'T LIKE IT .Anyway what I am doing is eagle research browns gas for HEAT I have read a lot & seems to be 100 watts to drive w/400 watt return which sounds good to me so I am nuilding a BROWNS GAS CONVECTION HEATER my own design!It seems worth trying.LATER WMH
 

    On Thursday, March 15, 2018 7:55 AM, "Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
 

     SteveAt present, it is only an off the shelf air toair heat pump. That is way better than any of the other options you have mentioned, as it uses less electricity than resistance heaters by at least 1/3 but can actually do way better than that, if you supercharge the concept, using slightly warmed air involving sunlight, getting heat from the sub soil under the frost, and so on, using your noodle.Cheers Warren

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  On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 10:07 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       Hey Doug and Warren
 The heaters hanging in the ceiling are gas Hogs they send over half the heat out the stack,the heaters that have a burner in one end and then you run a duct all the way around the building then a fan in the exhaust end pulls air through it and all the heat is dispearsed by the time the air gets to end .Propane has more btus than natural gas per ft or therm ever how you measure it .Also a infrared heater is more efficient than a blue flame.I used to have all the charts on this but have been lost in the fray .A friend that has a manufacturing plant did all the leg work on this and shared it with me,We use infrared  at the shop.But from what Warren has shared with us his old shop has a really efficient Heat pump.
Steve
 
 
 
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From: [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
To: EVGRAY <[email protected]>
Sent: Thu, Mar 15, 2018 5:57 am
Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] Re: The coil unit?



HikWarrenMaybe you need one of those industrial gas burners with fan that runs off big propane or whatever tank, that you see in auto shops usually be hanging off ceiling....and/or the propane blower heaters they use in construction, to dry out rooms so drywall mud will dry....these will leave thin film of propane over everything sometimes but maybe point it at your stone walls, heat those up....Electric heated work-overalls are good thing too....Maybe make an "inner chamber" (igloo) just for you, a heater, and your tools bench and projects ciaoKone
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Did anybody understand what CZ stator schematic drawing video showed?Stator is drawn as 36 separate center tapped windings and he writes "to prevent pole fields clashing just use 4 windings instead of 6".
But drawing shows 36 coils so he must have rewound the stator so as to leave a empty iron pole between every 6 overlapping consecutive windings.
I think i counted 36 relays so maybe the NC and NO and common connect to CT and split ph to each wind?
36 freewheel diodes, how are they connected? 

    On Thursday, March 15, 2018 3:37 PM, "werner held [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
 

     HI ALL you talk about heating I know how cold it gets up in canada I lived in calgary for 3yrs and saw -40 chinok ,DON'T LIKE IT .Anyway what I am doing is eagle research browns gas for HEAT I have read a lot & seems to be 100 watts to drive w/400 watt return which sounds good to me so I am nuilding a BROWNS GAS CONVECTION HEATER my own design!It seems worth trying.LATER WMH
 

    On Thursday, March 15, 2018 7:55 AM, "Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
 

     SteveAt present, it is only an off the shelf air toair heat pump. That is way better than any of the other options you have mentioned, as it uses less electricity than resistance heaters by at least 1/3 but can actually do way better than that, if you supercharge the concept, using slightly warmed air involving sunlight, getting heat from the sub soil under the frost, and so on, using your noodle.Cheers Warren

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 10:07 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       Hey Doug and Warren
 The heaters hanging in the ceiling are gas Hogs they send over half the heat out the stack,the heaters that have a burner in one end and then you run a duct all the way around the building then a fan in the exhaust end pulls air through it and all the heat is dispearsed by the time the air gets to end .Propane has more btus than natural gas per ft or therm ever how you measure it .Also a infrared heater is more efficient than a blue flame.I used to have all the charts on this but have been lost in the fray .A friend that has a manufacturing plant did all the leg work on this and shared it with me,We use infrared  at the shop.But from what Warren has shared with us his old shop has a really efficient Heat pump.
Steve
 
 
 
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From: [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
To: EVGRAY <[email protected]>
Sent: Thu, Mar 15, 2018 5:57 am
Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] Re: The coil unit?



HikWarrenMaybe you need one of those industrial gas burners with fan that runs off big propane or whatever tank, that you see in auto shops usually be hanging off ceiling....and/or the propane blower heaters they use in construction, to dry out rooms so drywall mud will dry....these will leave thin film of propane over everything sometimes but maybe point it at your stone walls, heat those up....Electric heated work-overalls are good thing too....Maybe make an "inner chamber" (igloo) just for you, a heater, and your tools bench and projects ciaoKone
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Hi Dave,

"Did anybody understand what CZ stator schematic drawing video showed?"
He has one coil around each smallest pole piece between two slots. As the output curve shape isn't perfect Pierre is seeking a solution which might be to remove some micro-poles between each macro-pole. This may not actually be the problem and solution. The problem could be how the stepping macro-pole rides across the locked rotor poles. Perhaps the macro-pole should be one micro-pole wider? In motor (generator) rotors the pole pieces are shaped for best performance.

This is the 36 micro-poles forming six macro-poles. The macro-poles are stepping in clockwise direction. Pierre uses 72 relays and all the soils are connected in series.

Regards
Ole
 

---In [email protected], <laser.rod@...> wrote :

 Did anybody understand what CZ stator schematic drawing video showed?
 Stator is drawn as 36 separate center tapped windings and he writes "to prevent pole fields clashing just use 4 windings instead of 6".

 But drawing shows 36 coils so he must have rewound the stator so as to leave a empty iron pole between every 6 overlapping consecutive windings.

 I think i counted 36 relays so maybe the NC and NO and common connect to CT and split ph to each wind?

 36 freewheel diodes, how are they connected?
 


 On Thursday, March 15, 2018 3:37 PM, "werner held heldfabrication@... [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:

 

   
 HI ALL you talk about heating I know how cold it gets up in canada I lived in calgary for 3yrs and saw -40 chinok ,DON'T LIKE IT .
 Anyway what I am doing is eagle research browns gas for HEAT I have read a lot & seems to be 100 watts to drive w/400 watt return which sounds good to me so I am nuilding a BROWNS GAS CONVECTION HEATER my own design!It seems worth trying.
 LATER WMH

 
 


 On Thursday, March 15, 2018 7:55 AM, "Warren Keillor schoonersolsticemoon@... [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:

 

   Steve
 At present, it is only an off the shelf air toair heat pump. That is way better than any of the other options you have mentioned, as it uses less electricity than resistance heaters by at least 1/3 but can actually do way better than that, if you supercharge the concept, using slightly warmed air involving sunlight, getting heat from the sub soil under the frost, and so on, using your noodle.
 Cheers Warren

 Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android
 
 On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 10:07 AM, cltractor@... [EVGRAY]
 <[email protected]> wrote:

   Hey Doug and Warren
  The heaters hanging in the ceiling are gas Hogs they send over half the heat out the stack,the heaters that have a burner in one end and then you run a duct all the way around the building then a fan in the exhaust end pulls air through it and all the heat is dispearsed by the time the air gets to end .Propane has more btus than natural gas per ft or therm ever how you measure it .Also a infrared heater is more efficient than a blue flame.I used to have all the charts on this but have been lost in the fray .A friend that has a manufacturing plant did all the leg work on this and shared it with me,We use infrared  at the shop.But from what Warren has shared with us his old shop has a really efficient Heat pump.
 Steve
 
 

 

 

 -----Original Message-----
 From: konehead@... [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
 To: EVGRAY <[email protected]>
 Sent: Thu, Mar 15, 2018 5:57 am
 Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] Re: The coil unit?
 
 
 
 HikWarren
 Maybe you need one of those industrial gas burners with fan that runs off big propane or whatever tank, that you see in auto shops usually be hanging off ceiling....and/or the propane blower heaters they use in construction, to dry out rooms so drywall mud will dry....these will leave thin film of propane over everything sometimes but maybe point it at your stone walls, heat those up....
 Electric heated work-overalls are good thing too....
 Maybe make an "inner chamber" (igloo) just for you, a heater, and your tools bench and projects
 ciaoKone
 

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Yahoo truncated the message! Here's another try:

Hi Dave,

"Did anybody understand what CZ stator schematic drawing video showed?"
He has one coil around each smallest pole piece between two slots. As the output curve shape isn't perfect Pierre is seeking a solution which might be to remove some micro-poles between each macro-pole. This may not actually be the problem and solution. The problem could be how the stepping macro-pole rides across the locked rotor poles. Perhaps the macro-pole should be one micro-pole wider? In motor (generator) rotors the pole pieces are shaped for best performance.

This is the 36 micro-poles forming six macro-poles. The macro-poles are stepping in clockwise direction. Pierre uses 72 relays and all the soils are connected in series.

Regards
Ole 

---In [email protected], <onielsen@...> wrote :

 Hi Dave,

"Did anybody understand what CZ stator schematic drawing video showed?"
He has one coil around each smallest pole piece between two slots. As the output curve shape isn't perfect Pierre is seeking a solution which might be to remove some micro-poles between each macro-pole. This may not actually be the problem and solution. The problem could be how the stepping macro-pole rides across the locked rotor poles. Perhaps the macro-pole should be one micro-pole wider? In motor (generator) rotors the pole pieces are shaped for best performance.

Yet another try:

Hi Dave,

"Did anybody understand what CZ stator schematic drawing video showed?"
He has one coil around each smallest pole piece between two slots. As the output curve shape isn't perfect Pierre is seeking a solution which might be to remove some micro-poles between each macro-pole. This may not actually be the problem and solution. The problem could be how the stepping macro-pole rides across the locked rotor poles. Perhaps the macro-pole should be one micro-pole wider? In motor (generator) rotors the pole pieces are shaped for best performance.

This is the 36 micro-poles forming six macro-poles. The macro-poles are stepping in clockwise direction. Pierre uses 72 relays and all the soils are connected in series.

Regards
Ole

Yahoo just doesn't want the full message to go through!

The gif-image of the stator:

Regards
Ole
 

---In [email protected], <onielsen@...> wrote :

 Yet another try:

Hi Dave,

"Did anybody understand what CZ stator schematic drawing video showed?"
He has one coil around each smallest pole piece between two slots. As the output curve shape isn't perfect Pierre is seeking a solution which might be to remove some micro-poles between each macro-pole. This may not actually be the problem and solution. The problem could be how the stepping macro-pole rides across the locked rotor poles. Perhaps the macro-pole should be one micro-pole wider? In motor (generator) rotors the pole pieces are shaped for best performance.

Warren, the slip ringed rotor needs DC power from a isolated set of control windings in the stator.it powers the voltage regulator circuit and get rectified.The rotor iron need to hold some magnitizm after generator is turned off otherwizeit can't excite control windings. That's why you remagnitize it when those pesky iron molecules turn queer.

How does a air to air heatpump work when it's under 0 ?Down here we have backup indoor several KW resistance coils in all heatpump systems, when it's subzero the outside the condenser shuts. 

    On Thursday, March 15, 2018 7:16 PM, "[email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
 

     Yahoo just doesn't want the full message to go through!

The gif-image of the stator:

Regards
Ole


---In [email protected], <onielsen@...> wrote :

Yet another try:

Hi Dave,

"Did ! anybody understand what CZ stator schematic drawing video showed?"
Hehas one coil around each smallest pole piece between two slots. As theoutput curve shape isn't perfect Pierre is seeking a solution whichmight be to remove some micro-poles between each macro-pole. This maynot actually be the problem and solution. The problem could be how thestepping macro-pole rides across the locked rotor poles. Perhaps themacro-pole should be one micro-pole wider? In motor (generator) rotorsthe pole pieces are shaped for best performance.
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DaveYes that is rightI remember Mike showing that to me.In practice, the heat pump air to air system, in place, works very well in even -27 C.
 It of course can work even better using liquids.cheers Warren
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 8:49 PM, Dave 1 [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       

Warren, the slip ringed rotor needs DC power from a isolated set of control windings in the stator.it powers the voltage regulator circuit and get rectified.The rotor iron need to hold some magnitizm after generator is turned off otherwizeit can't excite control windings. That's why you remagnitize it when those pesky iron molecules turn queer.

How does a air to air heatpump work when it's under 0 ?Down here we have backup indoor several KW resistance coils in all heatpump systems, when it's subzero the outside the condenser shuts. 

    On Thursday, March 15, 2018 7:16 PM, "[email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
 

     Yahoo just doesn't want the full message to go through!

The gif-image of the stator:

Regards
Ole


---In [email protected], <onielsen@...> wrote :

Yet another try:

Hi Dave,

"Did ! anybody understand what CZ stator schematic drawing video showed?"
Hehas one coil around each smallest pole piece between two slots. As theoutput curve shape isn't perfect Pierre is seeking a solution whichmight be to remove some micro-poles between each macro-pole. This maynot actually be the problem and solution. The problem could be how thestepping macro-pole rides across the locked rotor poles. Perhaps themacro-pole should be one micro-pole wider? In motor (generator) rotorsthe pole pieces are shaped for best performance.
  

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Hi Dave
 This is the latest video from Pierre....he draws out how the stator winds go, how many slots between and the polarity....the windings are "lapped" the small things on the circles are switches, he draws small arrow for direction of current in the eventual 6 poles.....watch in full screen hard to see everything...
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nh4cC9hIXbg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nh4cC9hIXbg
 Also Luc is doing this with a 30 pole small cheap genset out of a 750W two cycle motor spun genset and he shows here how the coils wind (not around a single pole like stupid drawing I put up a few days ago) which shows how one of the eventually lapped phases is wound note coils share same slot where they "connect" at ends:
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYullLkW9rc&feature=youtu.be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYullLkW9rc&feature=youtu.be

Hi Kone, Dave,

It is almost like a six poled Gramme ring generator where the rotor is made the stator and the commutation is made by the relays.


Source of image: https://wiki2.org/en/Gramme_machine https://wiki2.org/en/Gramme_machine

Regards
Ole
 

---In [email protected], <konehead@...> wrote :

 Hi Dave
 This is the latest video from Pierre....he draws out how the stator winds go, how many slots between and the polarity....the windings are "lapped" the small things on the circles are switches, he draws small arrow for direction of current in the eventual 6 poles.....watch in full screen hard to see everything...
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nh4cC9hIXbg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nh4cC9hIXbg
 Also Luc is doing this with a 30 pole small cheap genset out of a 750W two cycle motor spun genset and he shows here how the coils wind (not around a single pole like stupid drawing I put up a few days ago) which shows how one of the eventually lapped phases is wound note coils share same slot where they "connect" at ends:
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYullLkW9rc&feature=youtu.be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYullLkW9rc&feature=youtu.be

I forgot to mention that the pole faces points into the center of the stator coil while the Gramme ring has the poles come out between the coils. The Gramme ring has the coils in series both current and magnetic field wise. The Cotnoir stator has the poles in parallel magnetic field wise and in series current wise.

Regards
Ole


---In [email protected], <onielsen@...> wrote :

 Hi Kone, Dave,

It is almost like a six poled Gramme ring generator where the rotor is made the stator and the commutation is made by the relays.


Source of image: https://wiki2.org/en/Gramme_machine https://wiki2.org/en/Gramme_machine

Regards
Ole
 

---In [email protected], <konehead@...> wrote :

 Hi Dave
 This is the latest video from Pierre....he draws out how the stator winds go, how many slots between and the polarity....the windings are "lapped" the small things on the circles are switches, he draws small arrow for direction of current in the eventual 6 poles.....watch in full screen hard to see everything...
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nh4cC9hIXbg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nh4cC9hIXbg
 Also Luc is doing this with a 30 pole small cheap genset out of a 750W two cycle motor spun genset and he shows here how the coils wind (not around a single pole like stupid drawing I put up a few days ago) which shows how one of the eventually lapped phases is wound note coils share same slot where they "connect" at ends:
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYullLkW9rc&feature=youtu.be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYullLkW9rc&feature=youtu.be

Hi Ole
 Almost, but big difference is Pierre's windings are "lapped" in the stator frame slots. so those phases not being actually pulsed are being induced big time to make that extra power....So lets say phase 1-6 gets pulsed, that means phases 2-7, 3-8, 4-9. 5-10. are being induced and also 1 and 6 share the slot they go through on stator with the neighboring phase too....so lots of induced power from just one pulse, and this goes on all around the stator too....
 I made new drawing how it works with 30 pole stator, which many people have including me, which is out of 750W genset powered by 2cycle gas motor very common and cheap....this is what Luc (Gotoluc) is working with now, he is in very good conversation with Pierre too (they both speak French) Also Gotoluc is filming everything he does as he moves aloing....
 I will put this drawing up soon it doesn't show the lapping phases, just one...
 Also something I am thinking about now, because Pierre has a N and S sharing same slot where the neighboring phases connect, I think it creates a bucking field there !! And in Pierres scope forms this is exactly what that "hyperringing" peak looks like that he does not like since it makes a very messy AC....maybe he should leave it there, maybe this bucking condition is source of extra power too I don't know.
 ciaoKone

Hi Ole and Dave and everyone
 Here is drawing I just finished and is of my idea showing "possibility" how to switch in power to a 30pole stator frame....note the adjacent phases share and run through same pole slot, the phases all connect in series, and  there are 6 phases NSNSNS
 Instead of doing it like Pierre, where each phase has 2 relays on the IN to each phase and another 2 relays on OUT of each phase, (for total of 24 switches to pulse with alternating DC  into this NSNSNS pattern)
 This idea here, has the six phases in series, with either LHR or RHR wound phase winds, to create the NSNSNS pattern, and then just one H-switch to send in power to all phases....so this means just 4 switches, instead of 24 to pulse in alternating DC just one phase....eventually phases will sequentially pulse 30 times in one revolution, with this 30 pole stator frame...this not show right now, this is only pulsing of one phase of the 30 pole stator frame
 https://sites.google.com/site/alternativeworldenergy/pulsed-stator-generator https://sites.google.com/site/alternativeworldenergy/pulsed-stator-generator

Hi Kone,

Before Pierre showed the way of connecting the micro poles I thought of using a 6-legged bridge (6-phased bridge) to supply the stepping 3-phased field. This may be valid according to the patent applications mentioned by Gerry (message 105878 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/EVGRAY/conversations/messages/105878). But Pierre shows https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nh4cC9hIXbg all the coils connected in series and the field still rotating. Your field is not rotating when seen from the fixed secondary coil. I still think this experiment may be worth doing to see if the rotating field is necessary. But this more resembles a transformer which may be OK like the UDT of P.R. Jensen. Just be aware that output isn't a sine wave when the input is a square wave although it can be depending on the load.

I think the excess energy comes from the parallel fields made from the micro-poles. This is the principle of inversion (W.B. Smith) where the single magnetic fields are cohered into a new field representing instead of 6 times the energy of one micro-pole (superposition) it becomes 6^2 = 36 times the energy of one micro-pole during coherence. The current through the six poles are still in series and thus the same current for all 6 micro-poles (coherent). The output to input power ratio then becomes 36/6 = 6 times.

Pierre mentioned that it was a 6-poled stator and I falsely called it a 6-poled 3-phased stator. Actually it's a 6-poled 1-phase or a 2-poled 3-phased stator. The way you put it definitely makes it a 6-pole 1-phase stator.

Regards
Ole 

---In [email protected], <konehead@...> wrote :

 Hi Ole and Dave and everyone
 Here is drawing I just finished and is of my idea showing "possibility" how to switch in power to a 30pole stator frame....note the adjacent phases share and run through same pole slot, the phases all connect in series, and  there are 6 phases NSNSNS
 Instead of doing it like Pierre, where each phase has 2 relays on the IN to each phase and another 2 relays on OUT of each phase, (for total of 24 switches to pulse with alternating DC  into this NSNSNS pattern)
 This idea here, has the six phases in series, with either LHR or RHR wound phase winds, to create the NSNSNS pattern, and then just one H-switch to send in power to all phases....so this means just 4 switches, instead of 24 to pulse in alternating DC just one phase....eventually phases will sequentially pulse 30 times in one revolution, with this 30 pole stator frame...this not show right now, this is only pulsing of one phase of the 30 pole stator frame
 https://sites.google.com/site/alternativeworldenergy/pulsed-stator-generator https://sites.google.com/site/alternativeworldenergy/pulsed-stator-generator

Hi Ole
 I made new drawings showing the rotation in 5 steps with a 30 pole stator this time. There is supposed to be overlap in pulse time so that there is never an OFF period too.
 I agree with you about the coherence of the fields, I would call it the induced winds (5 to 1 with 30 poles) just have "nowhere to go" and they want to collapse but cannot, so they reinforce the power both in what feeds the cap bank to keep it looping, but also the power produced in the secondary fixed rotor...here are my new drawings:
 https://sites.google.com/site/alternativeworldenergy/pulsed-stator-generator https://sites.google.com/site/alternativeworldenergy/pulsed-stator-generator

Hi Kone,

This is a much better plan in my opinion. There just needs five more steps with the polarity reversed for making one complete cycle. If not using the reverse polarity the core suddenly changes polarity when changing from step 5 to step 1. The field could also just oscillate back and forth in the 5 steps shown.

Regards
Ole
 

---In [email protected], <konehead@...> wrote :

 Hi Ole
 I made new drawings showing the rotation in 5 steps with a 30 pole stator this time. There is supposed to be overlap in pulse time so that there is never an OFF period too.
 I agree with you about the coherence of the fields, I would call it the induced winds (5 to 1 with 30 poles) just have "nowhere to go" and they want to collapse but cannot, so they reinforce the power both in what feeds the cap bank to keep it looping, but also the power produced in the secondary fixed rotor...here are my new drawings:
 https://sites.google.com/site/alternativeworldenergy/pulsed-stator-generator https://sites.google.com/site/alternativeworldenergy/pulsed-stator-generator

DaveThank you for your generator advice.I have not figured out if the DC in this Troy-Bilt is constant, or just there to perk up the electromagnet, as I have never seen a schematic. I am just dealing with what comes to me testing it. So far it is a piggy that needs power to the armature rotor slip rings or no generation happens.
Air to air takes enough heat out of the outside air below zero to make it toasty inside. Only heat moves.. Cold stay,s put. Although the air is cold, it is not 0 degrees Kelvin, so there is lots of heat in 0 degrees C before 0 degrees KOf course, the hotter your source fluid, the better the efficiency you get, as the heat differencial is less of a trouble to convert to heat.Thermal preheating a liquid heat exchanger liquid is much prefered, like using solar thermal panels, or a big tank of liquid. A heat pump is well named.Cheers Warren
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  On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 8:49 PM, Dave Muckerman [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       

Warren, the slip ringed rotor needs DC power from a isolated set of control windings in the stator.it powers the voltage regulator circuit and get rectified.The rotor iron need to hold some magnitizm after generator is turned off otherwizeit can't excite control windings. That's why you remagnitize it when those pesky iron molecules turn queer.7

How does a air to air heatpump work when it's under 0 ?Down here we have backup indoor several KW resistance coils in all .condenser shuts. 

    On Thursday, March 15, 2018 7:16 PM, "[email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
 

     Yahoo just doesn't want the full message to go through!

The gif-image of the stator:

Regards
Ole


---In [email protected], <onielsen@...> wrote :

Yet another try:

Hi Dave,

"Did ! anybody understand what CZ stator schematic drawing video showed?"
Hehas one coil around each smallest pole piece between two slots. As theoutput curve shape isn't perfect Pierre is seeking a solution whichmight be to remove some micro-poles between each macro-pole. This maynot actually be the problem and solution. The problem could be how thestepping macro-pole rides across the locked rotor poles. Perhaps themacro-pole should be one micro-pole wider? In motor (generator) rotorsthe pole pieces are shaped for best performance.
  

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