Re: [EVGRAY] re: Longitudinal wave antenna

Kone, this makes sense.
 

 It's interesting the idea of heat being part of a non dividable triad no matter which is primary or secondary.
 

 Above or below the light constant impacting the heating or cooling, very interesting supposition!

 

 In any of your experiments have you experienced extreme cooling to the point of frost?
 

 I spoke to someone once who built the Kromrey device and said he could tune it tight enough to frost the coils of a nichrome resistance heater.

https://www.osti.gov/pages/biblio/1470943-biermann-battery-mediated-magnetic-reconnection-colliding-plasmas

https://phys.org/news/2018-12-universe-theory-percent-cosmos.html

Doug, look at the way anti-parallel flux lines attract and with the 
Alfvin wave compression, annihilate and reconnect yielding the EMP.  See 
attachment.

http://www.theomparticle.com/OnHotsonAndTheUniversalBEC.html

https://ethw.org/w/images/7/72/PVB_Dirac%27s-sea-of-negative-energy-%28part_2%29.pdf




Doug, the key to this is the vortex, anti-vortex flows that collide in 
the annihilation event and reconnect.

On 1/3/2019 2:54 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Hi Mick
>
> I have got lots of cold air blowing out,but  some say this is nitrogen 
> in atmosphere reacting to the spinning neodymium magnets since 
> nitrogen a ferrous gas....have never got the frost on coils thing to 
> happen maybe I could with lots of power pumped in or out in a negative 
> time sort of process such as the flyback event amplified perhaps but I 
> don't know..
>
> Also with bucking coils, I think there can be an instantanoeous-stop 
> to magnetic flow, and resultant electrical flow too, and this can 
> manifest in a faster than speed of light reaction in the colliding 
> corkscrewing flux needing somewhere to go besides where it came from, 
> and so it shoots out the sides of airgap at 90 degrees between coils 
> in a compressed-stopped-released like compressed spring sort of 
> event....this can be played around with and observed with coils and 
> ferrous cores mounted around the bucking coil airgap with cores 
> pointed at the airgap. (AKA splatter pickup coils)
>
> Anyways sort of a magnetic-flyback event rather than an electrical 
> one....but still electrical since its all related.
>
> Kone
>
>

Kone,

Have you ever tried to build a ferrocell with the sheets of glass and
ferrofluid and some leds?

Have you come up with theories to somehow amplify the flyback event? 
It's a conundrum since we are in positive time so most post processing
just turns it positive.  Maybe with an AC field it could be biased
negative but can't think of any sort of feedback loop that would amplify
same.

On 1/3/2019 3:54 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> Hi Mick
>
> I have got lots of cold air blowing out,but  some say this is nitrogen
> in atmosphere reacting to the spinning neodymium magnets since
> nitrogen a ferrous gas....have never got the frost on coils thing to
> happen maybe I could with lots of power pumped in or out in a negative
> time sort of process such as the flyback event amplified perhaps but I
> don't know..
>
> Also with bucking coils, I think there can be an instantanoeous-stop
> to magnetic flow, and resultant electrical flow too, and this can
> manifest in a faster than speed of light reaction in the colliding
> corkscrewing flux needing somewhere to go besides where it came from,
> and so it shoots out the sides of airgap at 90 degrees between coils
> in a compressed-stopped-released like compressed spring sort of
> event....this can be played around with and observed with coils and
> ferrous cores mounted around the bucking coil airgap with cores
> pointed at the airgap. (AKA splatter pickup coils)
>
> Anyways sort of a magnetic-flyback event rather than an electrical
> one....but still electrical since its all related.
>
> Kone
>
>

Hi Mick
 Two ways I know of to "amplify" flyback effect, one is to time delay its connection (the flyback diodes) and so it would go:
 1) DC power input connects to inductor
 2) Wait short period (approx. 5 degrees retarded like time of "echo"
 3) Now connect flyback diodes to collect and steer backemf/recoil flyback energy into suitable capacitor or perhaps some sort of load that does not just kill the flyback (lead acid battery for example maybe).
 Note that now both DC power supply is connected to inductor, and the inductor is/will be having its flyback energy steered out too....
 4) Now disconnect the DC power supply to the inductor (now for sure the flyback spike shoots backwards, but now no forward current to impede it!)
 5) wait abit again,let the flyback merge(or cohere?) with the actual back emf forces (this would be key and difficult to get just right)
 4) Now disconnect the flyback diodes, as its all over now, and do the next DC pulse to inductor and do the whole sequence again.....
 So there is that - konehead theory "says" you have amplified the flyback by using a time delay to cohere it to the inherent and elusive backemf force.
 

 Other way is to combine the flyback energy from pulsed DC inductor A with induced and rectified to DC generator pickup coil winds of inductor B  sharing same core and slam each together with both in DC going same directon,,, try and get them to merge or cohere using time delay and pulse width....Note induced generator pickup winds around, or behind, or within (bifilars for example) the primary winds will also :pickup the flyback spike energy as well as the usual steering diode approach...so might as well combine them..
 That's all I can think of now...
 Kone

Hi Ole,

I had thought Smith was of the Graviton particle theory, my mistake.

"The motional electric field always has the same direction from the
moving charge regardless of how it's moving and it can't be shielded." 
Can you elaborate?

Sad how so much is lost to attrition.  Very similar to Tesla's work
almost being lost if not people like the Corums and Norm did not take an
interest.  There should be position for people like us to go dig through
the archives of classified research and come up with alternative uses.

I have read the Corso book.  Unfortunately the alien stuff never leads
to anything concrete aside from some of the claims in the book.  It's
like taking something that exists halfway between reality and the dream
world and trying to make sense of it.  Another interesting alien story
is the one about the Tall Whites who allegedly live somewhere in the
Nevada test range at a base they setup as a way point hundreds of years
back.  I think the book was called Millennial Hospitality, I enjoyed
it.  Unfortunately most of the entities do not exist here so they must
take one to there,  their dimensional space to interact.  Trying to get
something physical and concrete from there to here is likely very
difficult and energy intensive.  Seemingly the Tall Whites do exist in
this dimension according to the book and are not just phantoms that flit
in and out like most plasma beings tend to.

On 1/3/2019 7:19 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> Hi Mick,
>
> "As for Wilbur Smith he has some great stuff too but I don't agree
> that gravity has it's own particles but rather, more likely, is a
> result of the background quiescent aether flux that allows field lines
> to exist or propagate."
> The Smith/Hooper theory suggests that gravity is made from the
> difference in the motional electric field formed from electrons
> orbiting in atoms. The slight difference in the field strength from
> when the electron is in front of the nucleus versus behind the nucleus
> could be the cause of gravity according to their theory. The motional
> electric field always has the same direction from the moving charge
> regardless of how it's moving and it can't be shielded. Gravity has
> similar properties. According to Smith's theory the aether is
> electrons or positrons which are the smallest physical particle to
> exist. All bigger particles can be made by combinations of electrons
> (or positrons). This is also suggested by the Rhythmodynamics theory.
>
> "Sadly Norm's applied proofs all come from weapons research because
> this planet is run by very lazy people who use the most base animal
> emotions, hatred, jealousy and fear in order to motivate and bound
> capital flow because it's time proven to work very very well."
> I watched the following video from a former US military colonel. He
> said W.B. Smith was a brilliant man. The military leaders think and
> act as to protect their country but are too lazy to follow up on
> things beside that. This makes lots of things look like secrets but
> could be attributed to forgetting about them. Then they get stored
> away forgotten and disappear until someone retires. The colonel's
> opinion is that even the government will disappear from itself if left
> to itself. Here is the video 'Roswell Revisited -- Colonel Phillip J.
> Corso:' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAfTY7NuceQ (20:12). His
> opinion is that ET technology should help us before being all
> forgotten which is why he has written a book on what he know.
>
> Regards
> Ole
>
>
>
>
> ---In [email protected], <mkjekyll@...> wrote :
>
> Ole,
>
> I like Catt's concept of treating components as a transmission line,
> it is very elegant for engineering and his capacitor definition is
> much more accessible.  Whatever works the best for engineering I am
> all for.  As for Wilbur Smith he has some great stuff too but I don't
> agree that gravity has it's own particles but rather, more likely, is
> a result of the background quiescent aether flux that allows field
> lines to exist or propagate.  There are so many little odd anomalies
> we have no idea about and I don't think much of the physicists who get
> paid to create math problems only they can solve or halfway prove with
> trillion dollar research facilities.  The Rythmodynamics is also very
> special and makes much more sense when it comes to the aether flux and
> interference patterns.
>
> I still think we are leaving out something very fundamental and very
> difficult to observe from our perspective.  This little function or
> parameter or what have you would explain the transitional states we
> can't seem to pear into and presently only guess at.
>
> I agree with Dr Tesla's idea of doing ones best with engineering math
> but then for instance separating RF transmitter and receivers in real
> field tests in order to actually prove something before writing it
> down as a gospel.
>
> There has become too large an abyss between theoretical and applied
> and I think the research money is going to the wrong one.  But then
> the research money goes where the politicos at the think tanks decide
> it should, often to the detriment of humans and truth.  Scientists are
> paid not to think empirically so it is always refreshing to find one
> who still does.
>
> Sadly Norm's applied proofs all come from weapons research because
> this planet is run by very lazy people who use the most base animal
> emotions, hatred, jealousy and fear in order to motivate and bound
> capital flow because it's time proven to work very very well.  If the
> average person was brought up respecting science and real
> accomplishment rather than childish sports and glamour the human race
> could evolve rather than devolve.  For now defense contractors are
> going to be our best source of fringe science.  Remember what John
> Hutchinson said, something to the effect the civilian scientists and
> universities were the first to blow him off but the ones from the
> military defense contractors took him seriously enough to come out and
> have a serious look at things and patiently listen to him and watch
> his demos.
>
> On 12/31/2018 11:56 AM, onielsen@... <mailto:onielsen@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
>>      
>>
>>     Hi Mick,
>>
>>     The theory of Wilbert B. Smith starts from nothing at all like
>>     pure emptiness without any space. Then he first builds up the
>>     space and fills in some density to construct the fields. The
>>     three fundamental fields are then Tempus (field of change) the
>>     electric field (divergence) and the magnetic field (curl). After
>>     that the fundamental particles (the electron and positron) are
>>     build which extends to quarks and other fractions of atoms.
>>
>>     Thus to say which is the most fundamental of E and B it is the
>>     electric field E according to Smith. T or the tempic field is
>>     even more fundamental as this is the density required for making
>>     the electric field (divergence of density) and the electric field
>>     is required for making the magnetic field (stirring the electric
>>     field). Actually the fields can't be separated from each other as
>>     I understand it as the fields are unified into each other as
>>     shown by Ivor Catt. This causes trouble for Faraday's law of
>>     induction. The scientific society won't touch the theory of Catt
>>     even though seen from an engineering point of view it gives
>>     solutions instead of paradoxes. But also new problems arise as
>>     shown by Forrest Bishop. True science will solve the problems
>>     instead of turning away from the problems.
>>
>>     Regards
>>     Ole
>>
>>
>>     ---In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>,
>>     <mkjekyll@...> <mailto:mkjekyll@...> wrote :
>>
>>     Norm,
>>
>>     Hard to say it's the chicken and the egg again. B before the E
>>     and H...  OK photons are the current answer according to the
>>     link, however what if the B fields were there first, then it
>>     would be like magnetic super strings of some kind.  Now would
>>     these be particles or just pertubations of the background
>>     quiescent aether space flux?  There are the monopole particle
>>     theories such as Ed Leedskalnin or Russells magnetic light.  My
>>     theory would be a magnetic particle is the inverse of a photon
>>     and as such something not presently detectable directly.
>>
>>     On 12/31/2018 8:03 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>     <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>>>          
>>>
>>>         When you set out to research a topic, You have to first
>>>         define it.    Boy, the jury is still out, so to speak for
>>>         the experts still do not know the exact composition of
>>>         magnetic fields or lines of force.  Just just have to laugh.
>>>         See
>>>
>>>         Ohttps://van.physics.illinois.edu/qa/listing.php?id=414
>>>
>>>         Ok, guys, what is your idea as to composition of magnetic flux??
>>>
>>>         ...
>>
>

Norm,

Great illustrations.

You had mentioned that ground return is not in your opinion the best way
to send DC, in that case what do you think is the best type of high
voltage DC interconnect, some sort of one wire pulsed system? 

On 1/3/2019 8:04 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> https://www.osti.gov/pages/biblio/1470943-biermann-battery-mediated-magnetic-reconnection-colliding-plasmas
>
> https://phys.org/news/2018-12-universe-theory-percent-cosmos.html
>
> Doug, look at the way anti-parallel flux lines attract and with the
> Alfvin wave compression, annihilate and reconnect yielding the EMP. 
> See attachment.
>
> http://www.theomparticle.com/OnHotsonAndTheUniversalBEC.html
>
> https://ethw.org/w/images/7/72/PVB_Dirac%27s-sea-of-negative-energy-%28part_2%29.pdf
>
>
>  
>
>
> Doug, the key to this is the vortex, anti-vortex flows that collide in
> the annihilation event and reconnect.
>
> On 1/3/2019 2:54 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>  
>>
>> Hi Mick
>>
>> I have got lots of cold air blowing out,but  some say this is
>> nitrogen in atmosphere reacting to the spinning neodymium magnets
>> since nitrogen a ferrous gas....have never got the frost on coils
>> thing to happen maybe I could with lots of power pumped in or out in
>> a negative time sort of process such as the flyback event amplified
>> perhaps but I don't know..
>>
>> Also with bucking coils, I think there can be an instantanoeous-stop
>> to magnetic flow, and resultant electrical flow too, and this can
>> manifest in a faster than speed of light reaction in the colliding
>> corkscrewing flux needing somewhere to go besides where it came from,
>> and so it shoots out the sides of airgap at 90 degrees between coils
>> in a compressed-stopped-released like compressed spring sort of
>> event....this can be played around with and observed with coils and
>> ferrous cores mounted around the bucking coil airgap with cores
>> pointed at the airgap. (AKA splatter pickup coils)
>>
>> Anyways sort of a magnetic-flyback event rather than an electrical
>> one....but still electrical since its all related.
>>
>> Kone
>>
>

Ole See comments below!

On 1/3/2019 6:19 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Hi Mick,
>
> "As for Wilbur Smith he has some great stuff too but I don't agree 
> that gravity has it's own particles but rather, more likely, is a 
> result of the background quiescent aether flux that allows field lines 
> to exist or propagate."
> The Smith/Hooper theory suggests that gravity is made from the 
> difference in the motional electric field formed from electrons 
> orbiting in atoms. The slight difference in the field strength from 
> when the electron is in front of the nucleus versus behind the nucleus 
> could be the cause of gravity according to their theory. The motional 
> electric field always has the same direction from the moving charge 
> regardless of how it's moving and it can't be shielded. Gravity has 
> similar properties. According to Smith's theory the aether is 
> electrons or positrons which are the smallest physical particle to 
> exist. All bigger particles can be made by combinations of electrons 
> (or positrons). This is also suggested by the Rhythmodynamics theory.
>
> "Sadly Norm's applied proofs all come from weapons research because 
> this planet is run by very lazy people who use the most base animal 
> emotions, hatred, jealousy and fear in order to motivate and bound 
> capital flow because it's time proven to work very very well."
>
Ole,  Your comments are so true regarding the source of advancements in 
the magical world of magnetic flux annihilation/Reconnect.  The big buck 
Black Budget Government programs have advanced all the knowledge learned 
by studying your favorite researchers down through the years.   That is 
exactly how they got there.  We now know that Weapons Research Programs 
have unlocked the secret as  to how to tap the Zero-Point, Space 
background, aether, if you like to provide a phenomenal amount of real 
power.     If you have the ability to destroy a powerful magnet flux 
field in a nano sec via 23GPa over pressure from an explosive and yield 
voltage and current potentials in KV and KA then think about how to 
apply this knowledge to tap other magnetic flux fields like Don Smith 
wanting to tap the anomalous earth magnetic fields.  He was not far off 
in his thinking.

See  https://www.wired.com/2009/03/army-turns-bomb/

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explosive-driven_ferromagnetic_generator

http://przyrbwn.icm.edu.pl/APP/PDF/115/a115z626.pdf

The direct conversion of magnetic flux particles into real electrical 
power is a living reality.   Yes, derived from the research of a lot of 
you age old favorites.  REALITY CHECK.   Norm


> I watched the following video from a former US military colonel. He 
> said W.B. Smith was a brilliant man. The military leaders think and 
> act as to protect their country but are too lazy to follow up on 
> things beside that. This makes lots of things look like secrets but 
> could be attributed to forgetting about them. Then they get stored 
> away forgotten and disappear until someone retires. The colonel's 
> opinion is that even the government will disappear from itself if left 
> to itself. Here is the video 'Roswell Revisited -- Colonel Phillip J. 
> Corso:' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAfTY7NuceQ (20:12). His 
> opinion is that ET technology should help us before being all 
> forgotten which is why he has written a book on what he know.
>
> Regards
> Ole
>
>
>
>
> ---In [email protected], <mkjekyll@...> wrote :
>
> Ole,
>
> I like Catt's concept of treating components as a transmission line, 
> it is very elegant for engineering and his capacitor definition is 
> much more accessible. Whatever works the best for engineering I am all 
> for. As for Wilbur Smith he has some great stuff too but I don't agree 
> that gravity has it's own particles but rather, more likely, is a 
> result of the background quiescent aether flux that allows field lines 
> to exist or propagate.  There are so many little odd anomalies we have 
> no idea about and I don't think much of the physicists who get paid to 
> create math problems only they can solve or halfway prove with 
> trillion dollar research facilities.  The Rythmodynamics is also very 
> special and makes much more sense when it comes to the aether flux and 
> interference patterns.
>
> I still think we are leaving out something very fundamental and very 
> difficult to observe from our perspective.  This little function or 
> parameter or what have you would explain the transitional states we 
> can't seem to pear into and presently only guess at.
>
> I agree with Dr Tesla's idea of doing ones best with engineering math 
> but then for instance separating RF transmitter and receivers in real 
> field tests in order to actually prove something before writing it 
> down as a gospel.
>
> There has become too large an abyss between theoretical and applied 
> and I think the research money is going to the wrong one.  But then 
> the research money goes where the politicos at the think tanks decide 
> it should, often to the detriment of humans and truth.  Scientists are 
> paid not to think empirically so it is always refreshing to find one 
> who still does.
>
> Sadly Norm's applied proofs all come from weapons research because 
> this planet is run by very lazy people who use the most base animal 
> emotions, hatred, jealousy and fear in order to motivate and bound 
> capital flow because it's time proven to work very very well.  If the 
> average person was brought up respecting science and real 
> accomplishment rather than childish sports and glamour the human race 
> could evolve rather than devolve.  For now defense contractors are 
> going to be our best source of fringe science.  Remember what John 
> Hutchinson said, something to the effect the civilian scientists and 
> universities were the first to blow him off but the ones from the 
> military defense contractors took him seriously enough to come out and 
> have a serious look at things and patiently listen to him and watch 
> his demos.
>
> On 12/31/2018 11:56 AM, onielsen@... <mailto:onielsen@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
>>     Hi Mick,
>>
>>     The theory of Wilbert B. Smith starts from nothing at all like
>>     pure emptiness without any space. Then he first builds up the
>>     space and fills in some density to construct the fields. The
>>     three fundamental fields are then Tempus (field of change) the
>>     electric field (divergence) and the magnetic field (curl). After
>>     that the fundamental particles (the electron and positron) are
>>     build which extends to quarks and other fractions of atoms.
>>
>>     Thus to say which is the most fundamental of E and B it is the
>>     electric field E according to Smith. T or the tempic field is
>>     even more fundamental as this is the density required for making
>>     the electric field (divergence of density) and the electric field
>>     is required for making the magnetic field (stirring the electric
>>     field). Actually the fields can't be separated from each other as
>>     I understand it as the fields are unified into each other as
>>     shown by Ivor Catt. This causes trouble for Faraday's law of
>>     induction. The scientific society won't touch the theory of Catt
>>     even though seen from an engineering point of view it gives
>>     solutions instead of paradoxes. But also new problems arise as
>>     shown by Forrest Bishop. True science will solve the problems
>>     instead of turning away from the problems.
>>
>>     Regards
>>     Ole
>>
>>
>>     ---In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>,
>>     <mkjekyll@...> <mailto:mkjekyll@...> wrote :
>>
>>     Norm,
>>
>>     Hard to say it's the chicken and the egg again. B before the E
>>     and H...  OK photons are the current answer according to the
>>     link, however what if the B fields were there first, then it
>>     would be like magnetic super strings of some kind.  Now would
>>     these be particles or just pertubations of the background
>>     quiescent aether space flux?  There are the monopole particle
>>     theories such as Ed Leedskalnin or Russells magnetic light.  My
>>     theory would be a magnetic particle is the inverse of a photon
>>     and as such something not presently detectable directly.
>>
>>     On 12/31/2018 8:03 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>     <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>>>         When you set out to research a topic, You have to first
>>>         define it.    Boy, the jury is still out, so to speak for
>>>         the experts still do not know the exact composition of
>>>         magnetic fields or lines of force.  Just just have to laugh.
>>>         See
>>>
>>>         Ohttps://van.physics.illinois.edu/qa/listing.php?id=414
>>>
>>>         Ok, guys, what is your idea as to composition of magnetic flux??
>>>
>>>         ...
>>
>

http://przyrbwn.icm.edu.pl/APP/PDF/115/a115z626.pdf About sums it  up.   
Norm

-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: 	Re: [EVGRAY] re: Longitudinal wave antenna
Date: 	Thu, 3 Jan 2019 09:50:33 -0600
From: 	Norman Wootan <[email protected]>
To: 	[email protected]



Ole See comments below!

On 1/3/2019 6:19 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Hi Mick,
>
> "As for Wilbur Smith he has some great stuff too but I don't agree 
> that gravity has it's own particles but rather, more likely, is a 
> result of the background quiescent aether flux that allows field lines 
> to exist or propagate."
> The Smith/Hooper theory suggests that gravity is made from the 
> difference in the motional electric field formed from electrons 
> orbiting in atoms. The slight difference in the field strength from 
> when the electron is in front of the nucleus versus behind the nucleus 
> could be the cause of gravity according to their theory. The motional 
> electric field always has the same direction from the moving charge 
> regardless of how it's moving and it can't be shielded. Gravity has 
> similar properties. According to Smith's theory the aether is 
> electrons or positrons which are the smallest physical particle to 
> exist. All bigger particles can be made by combinations of electrons 
> (or positrons). This is also suggested by the Rhythmodynamics theory.
>
> "Sadly Norm's applied proofs all come from weapons research because 
> this planet is run by very lazy people who use the most base animal 
> emotions, hatred, jealousy and fear in order to motivate and bound 
> capital flow because it's time proven to work very very well."
>
Ole,  Your comments are so true regarding the source of advancements in 
the magical world of magnetic flux annihilation/Reconnect.  The big buck 
Black Budget Government programs have advanced all the knowledge learned 
by studying your favorite researchers down through the years.   That is 
exactly how they got there.  We now know that Weapons Research Programs 
have unlocked the secret as  to how to tap the Zero-Point, Space 
background, aether, if you like, to provide a phenomenal amount of real 
power.     If you have the ability to destroy a powerful magnet flux 
field in a nano sec via 23GPa over pressure from an explosive and yield 
voltage and current potentials in KV and KA then think about how to 
apply this knowledge to tap other magnetic flux fields like Don Smith 
wanting to tap the anomalous earth magnetic fields.  He was not far off 
in his thinking. Tesla, in a very fundamental way achieved to same 
magneto-strictive effect (over pressures)  (now known as Z pinch) by 
supersaturation of iron cores to yield the conversion effect. Our MRA 
used the ultra high Q at resonance to achieve the effects in a small way 
as did Floyd Sweet in his VTA.  There are several alternatives to tap 
the power of the magnetic flux fields.

See https://www.wired.com/2009/03/army-turns-bomb/

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explosive-driven_ferromagnetic_generator

http://przyrbwn.icm.edu.pl/APP/PDF/115/a115z626.pdf

The direct conversion of magnetic flux particles into real electrical 
power is a living reality.   Yes, derived from the research of a lot of 
you age old favorites.  REALITY CHECK. Norm


> I watched the following video from a former US military colonel. He 
> said W.B. Smith was a brilliant man. The military leaders think and 
> act as to protect their country but are too lazy to follow up on 
> things beside that. This makes lots of things look like secrets but 
> could be attributed to forgetting about them. Then they get stored 
> away forgotten and disappear until someone retires. The colonel's 
> opinion is that even the government will disappear from itself if left 
> to itself. Here is the video 'Roswell Revisited -- Colonel Phillip J. 
> Corso:' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAfTY7NuceQ (20:12). His 
> opinion is that ET technology should help us before being all 
> forgotten which is why he has written a book on what he know.
>
> Regards
> Ole
>
>
>
>
> ---In [email protected], <mkjekyll@...> wrote :
>
> Ole,
>
> I like Catt's concept of treating components as a transmission line, 
> it is very elegant for engineering and his capacitor definition is 
> much more accessible. Whatever works the best for engineering I am all 
> for. As for Wilbur Smith he has some great stuff too but I don't agree 
> that gravity has it's own particles but rather, more likely, is a 
> result of the background quiescent aether flux that allows field lines 
> to exist or propagate.  There are so many little odd anomalies we have 
> no idea about and I don't think much of the physicists who get paid to 
> create math problems only they can solve or halfway prove with 
> trillion dollar research facilities.  The Rythmodynamics is also very 
> special and makes much more sense when it comes to the aether flux and 
> interference patterns.
>
> I still think we are leaving out something very fundamental and very 
> difficult to observe from our perspective.  This little function or 
> parameter or what have you would explain the transitional states we 
> can't seem to pear into and presently only guess at.
>
> I agree with Dr Tesla's idea of doing ones best with engineering math 
> but then for instance separating RF transmitter and receivers in real 
> field tests in order to actually prove something before writing it 
> down as a gospel.
>
> There has become too large an abyss between theoretical and applied 
> and I think the research money is going to the wrong one.  But then 
> the research money goes where the politicos at the think tanks decide 
> it should, often to the detriment of humans and truth.  Scientists are 
> paid not to think empirically so it is always refreshing to find one 
> who still does.
>
> Sadly Norm's applied proofs all come from weapons research because 
> this planet is run by very lazy people who use the most base animal 
> emotions, hatred, jealousy and fear in order to motivate and bound 
> capital flow because it's time proven to work very very well.  If the 
> average person was brought up respecting science and real 
> accomplishment rather than childish sports and glamour the human race 
> could evolve rather than devolve.  For now defense contractors are 
> going to be our best source of fringe science.  Remember what John 
> Hutchinson said, something to the effect the civilian scientists and 
> universities were the first to blow him off but the ones from the 
> military defense contractors took him seriously enough to come out and 
> have a serious look at things and patiently listen to him and watch 
> his demos.
>
> On 12/31/2018 11:56 AM, onielsen@... <mailto:onielsen@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
>>     Hi Mick,
>>
>>     The theory of Wilbert B. Smith starts from nothing at all like
>>     pure emptiness without any space. Then he first builds up the
>>     space and fills in some density to construct the fields. The
>>     three fundamental fields are then Tempus (field of change) the
>>     electric field (divergence) and the magnetic field (curl). After
>>     that the fundamental particles (the electron and positron) are
>>     build which extends to quarks and other fractions of atoms.
>>
>>     Thus to say which is the most fundamental of E and B it is the
>>     electric field E according to Smith. T or the tempic field is
>>     even more fundamental as this is the density required for making
>>     the electric field (divergence of density) and the electric field
>>     is required for making the magnetic field (stirring the electric
>>     field). Actually the fields can't be separated from each other as
>>     I understand it as the fields are unified into each other as
>>     shown by Ivor Catt. This causes trouble for Faraday's law of
>>     induction. The scientific society won't touch the theory of Catt
>>     even though seen from an engineering point of view it gives
>>     solutions instead of paradoxes. But also new problems arise as
>>     shown by Forrest Bishop. True science will solve the problems
>>     instead of turning away from the problems.
>>
>>     Regards
>>     Ole
>>
>>
>>     ---In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>,
>>     <mkjekyll@...> <mailto:mkjekyll@...> wrote :
>>
>>     Norm,
>>
>>     Hard to say it's the chicken and the egg again. B before the E
>>     and H...  OK photons are the current answer according to the
>>     link, however what if the B fields were there first, then it
>>     would be like magnetic super strings of some kind.  Now would
>>     these be particles or just pertubations of the background
>>     quiescent aether space flux? There are the monopole particle
>>     theories such as Ed Leedskalnin or Russells magnetic light.  My
>>     theory would be a magnetic particle is the inverse of a photon
>>     and as such something not presently detectable directly.
>>
>>     On 12/31/2018 8:03 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>     <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>>>         When you set out to research a topic, You have to first
>>>         define it.    Boy, the jury is still out, so to speak for
>>>         the experts still do not know the exact composition of
>>>         magnetic fields or lines of force. Just just have to laugh. See
>>>
>>>         Ohttps://van.physics.illinois.edu/qa/listing.php?id=414
>>>
>>>         Ok, guys, what is your idea as to composition of magnetic flux??
>>>
>>>         ...
>>
>

Warren,

I lost contact with the guy but I think he said there could be no metal
where the coils mount. 

Anyways it sounds as though you secured a gorgeous stone property. 
There is a huge thermal mass like this brick concrete place I am in and
it can be chilly until one raises the temp to the bifurcation point
where instead of a sink it's a source so just a degree over ambient and
as you say after the thermal mass stores heat as a capacitor, it works
well.  Have a log home that does the same thing but it does not take as
long to move the heat through as does brick stone or concrete.  After
the sun drops it gets hotter inside when it becomes the radiator.

As Ole mentioned so much is forgotten.  If you were in front of one of
the masons of the time he would likely say well duh everyone knows that,
and did you know this then lay something down you couldn't believe
people forgot.  Constructing in stone is expensive but the longest
lasting.  Even the interlocking Peruvian type stone buildings still
require earthquake maintenance but will likely stand for thousands of
years more. Then again mortarless stone construction is the most costly
of the stone construction techniques.

The local tribes tried to repair the temples but had lost the stone
cutting tech which were likely sound driven.

Glad you are going with a heat pump, propane is expensive and a much
wetter heat.  It's nice from the perspective of permanence you are on
top of stone but makes a geothermal heat pump a near impossibility.
A good source of hydrogen like a solar electro cell and the catalytic
converter from a car is supposed to be quite the heating source.  Can
find catalytics for about $120 new.  I wonder how efficient Norms
hydrogen machine for heating would be in this way?

What brand heat pump did you end up with?


On 1/3/2019 8:53 AM, Warren Keillor [email protected]
[EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> Hi Mick
> I built a very good Kromery, I believe, but have never noticed the
> cold temperature effect.
> I did not, however, do any measurements other than multimeter, that I
> had at that time.
> I always wanted to put it on a scope.
> I now have a scope, laser point and shoot thermometer, and very soon a
> lab/ studio with in floor heating and electricity. Right now there is
> a very greedy wood stove to keep the stone walls from sucking the heat
> out of my bones.
> This weekend promises to have the final heat pump check out
> connection, and test.
> The ancient stone walls are interesting. For a few days, after burning
> with the stove, I let the fire go out. Although it was bitter outside,
> the building was still comfortable inside.
> It acts like a heat capacitor.
> Our house is stone as well, with three foot thick walls.
> We have a fancy thermostat that was controlling the heat from the
> propane furnace. We were trying, to be economical, cutting down the
> heat at night, but going through the gas, feeling chilly with the
> furnace running, and the upstairs cold.
> The real trick is letting the house stay at an even temperature day,
> and night, and the gas bill drops, the place is warm and cozy.
> The furnace rarely comes on now, and only briefly.
> In my studio, where we removed 45 tons of stone from under the floor,
> I lost sleep trying to determine why the ancients put it there?
> I think I now know. They kept a couple of carriage horses there, with
> a hay loft above. By feeding the horses hay, they kept alive and warm,
> giving off heat. The stone floor, and two foot thick walls would
> retain that heat, radiating it into the interior space, but not to the
> outside, so much, as the heat transmission through the stone is very
> slow. We must remember cold does not travel. It is the absence of heat
> energy.
> We also must remember that people 170 years ago, were just as smart as
> we are, and likely working with a rich oral communication, where
> traditional solutions were carefully considered, hence, all that work
> moving boulders.
> Much knowledge came from stone masons employed by the British
> government, locally here, when they built the Rideau canal, assume,
> back in the 1820's. Many were paid in land grants around Kingston.
> I am still trying to find out the history of this place, as it is
> really old, from artifacts that I have found while repairing everything.
> Happy New Year, and let's all get our self runners up and running!
> Cheers Warren
>
>
>
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>
>     On Wed, 2 Jan 2019 at 10:13 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]
>     <[email protected]> wrote:
>      
>     Kone, this makes sense.
>
>     It's interesting the idea of heat being part of a non dividable
>     triad no matter which is primary or secondary.
>
>     Above or below the light constant impacting the heating or
>     cooling, very interesting supposition!
>
>     In any of your experiments have you experienced extreme cooling to
>     the point of frost?
>
>     I spoke to someone once who built the Kromrey device and said he
>     could tune it tight enough to frost the coils of a nichrome
>     resistance heater.
>
>

Hi Mick,

"As for Wilbur Smith he has some great stuff too but I don't agree that gravity has it's own particles but rather, more likely, is a result of the background quiescent aether flux that allows field lines to exist or propagate."
The Smith/Hooper theory suggests that gravity is made from the difference in the motional electric field formed from electrons orbiting in atoms. The slight difference in the field strength from when the electron is in front of the nucleus versus behind the nucleus could be the cause of gravity according to their theory. The motional electric field always has the same direction from the moving charge regardless of how it's moving and it can't be shielded. Gravity has similar properties. According to Smith's theory the aether is electrons or positrons which are the smallest physical particle to exist. All bigger particles can be made by combinations of electrons (or positrons). This is also suggested by the Rhythmodynamics theory. 

"Sadly Norm's applied proofs all come from weapons research because this planet is run by very lazy people who use the most base animal emotions, hatred, jealousy and fear in order to motivate and bound capital flow because it's time proven to work very very well."
I watched the following video from a former US military colonel. He said W.B. Smith was a brilliant man. The military leaders think and act as to protect their country but are too lazy to follow up on things beside that. This makes lots of things look like secrets but could be attributed to forgetting about them. Then they get stored away forgotten and disappear until someone retires. The colonel's opinion is that even the government will disappear from itself if left to itself. Here is the video 'Roswell Revisited -- Colonel Phillip J. Corso:' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAfTY7NuceQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAfTY7NuceQ (20:12). His opinion is that ET technology should help us before being all forgotten which is why he has written a book on what he know.

Regards
Ole




---In [email protected], <mkjekyll@...> wrote :

 Ole,
 I like Catt's concept of treating components as a transmission line, it is very elegant for engineering and his capacitor definition is much more accessible.  Whatever works the best for engineering I am all for.  As for Wilbur Smith he has some great stuff too but I don't agree that gravity has it's own particles but rather, more likely, is a result of the background quiescent aether flux that allows field lines to exist or propagate.  There are so many little odd anomalies we have no idea about and I don't think much of the physicists who get paid to create math problems only they can solve or halfway prove with trillion dollar research facilities.  The Rythmodynamics is also very special and makes much more sense when it comes to the aether flux and interference patterns.
 I still think we are leaving out something very fundamental and very difficult to observe from our perspective.  This little function or parameter or what have you would explain the transitional states we can't seem to pear into and presently only guess at.
 
 I agree with Dr Tesla's idea of doing ones best with engineering math but then for instance separating RF transmitter and receivers in real field tests in order to actually prove something before writing it down as a gospel.
 There has become too large an abyss between theoretical and applied and I think the research money is going to the wrong one.  But then the research money goes where the politicos at the think tanks decide it should, often to the detriment of humans and truth.  Scientists are paid not to think empirically so it is always refreshing to find one who still does.
 Sadly Norm's applied proofs all come from weapons research because this planet is run by very lazy people who use the most base animal emotions, hatred, jealousy and fear in order to motivate and bound capital flow because it's time proven to work very very well.  If the average person was brought up respecting science and real accomplishment rather than childish sports and glamour the human race could evolve rather than devolve.  For now defense contractors are going to be our best source of fringe science.  Remember what John Hutchinson said, something to the effect the civilian scientists and universities were the first to blow him off but the ones from the military defense contractors took him seriously enough to come out and have a serious look at things and patiently listen to him and watch his demos.
 
 On 12/31/2018 11:56 AM, onielsen@... mailto:onielsen@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
 
   Hi Mick,
 
 The theory of Wilbert B. Smith starts from nothing at all like pure emptiness without any space. Then he first builds up the space and fills in some density to construct the fields. The three fundamental fields are then Tempus (field of change) the electric field (divergence) and the magnetic field (curl). After that the fundamental particles (the electron and positron) are build which extends to quarks and other fractions of atoms.
 
 Thus to say which is the most fundamental of E and B it is the electric field E according to Smith. T or the tempic field is even more fundamental as this is the density required for making the electric field (divergence of density) and the electric field is required for making the magnetic field (stirring the electric field). Actually the fields can't be separated from each other as I understand it as the fields are unified into each other as shown by Ivor Catt. This causes trouble for Faraday's law of induction. The scientific society won't touch the theory of Catt even though seen from an engineering point of view it gives solutions instead of paradoxes. But also new problems arise as shown by Forrest Bishop. True science will solve the problems instead of turning away from the problems.
 
 Regards
 Ole
 
 
 ---In [email protected] mailto:[email protected], <mkjekyll@...> mailto:mkjekyll@... wrote :
 
 
 Norm,
 Hard to say it's the chicken and the egg again. B before the E and H...  OK photons are the current answer according to the link, however what if the B fields were there first, then it would be like magnetic super strings of some kind.  Now would these be particles or just pertubations of the background quiescent aether space flux?  There are the monopole particle theories such as Ed Leedskalnin or Russells magnetic light.  My theory would be a magnetic particle is the inverse of a photon and as such something not presently detectable directly.
 
 On 12/31/2018 8:03 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... mailto:nwootan@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
 
   
 When you set out to research a topic, You have to first define it.    Boy, the jury is still out, so to speak for the experts still do not know the exact composition of magnetic fields or lines of force.  Just just have to laugh. See 
 
 Ohttps://van.physics.illinois.edu/qa/listing.php?id=414
 
 
 Ok, guys, what is your idea as to composition of magnetic flux??
 
 
 
 ...

Hi MickI built a very good Kromery, I believe, but have never noticed the cold temperature effect.I did not, however, do any measurements other than multimeter, that I had at that time.I always wanted to put it on a scope.I now have a scope, laser point and shoot thermometer, and very soon a lab/ studio with in floor heating and electricity. Right now there is a very greedy wood stove to keep the stone walls from sucking the heat out of my bones.This weekend promises to have the final heat pump check out connection, and test.The ancient stone walls are interesting. For a few days, after burning with the stove, I let the fire go out. Although it was bitter outside, the building was still comfortable inside.It acts like a heat capacitor.Our house is stone as well, with three foot thick walls.We have a fancy thermostat that was controlling the heat from the propane furnace. We were trying, to be economical, cutting down the heat at night, but going through the gas, feeling chilly with the furnace running, and the upstairs cold.The real trick is letting the house stay at an even temperature day, and night, and the gas bill drops, the place is warm and cozy.The furnace rarely comes on now, and only briefly.In my studio, where we removed 45 tons of stone from under the floor, I lost sleep trying to determine why the ancients put it there?I think I now know. They kept a couple of carriage horses there, with a hay loft above. By feeding the horses hay, they kept alive and warm, giving off heat. The stone floor, and two foot thick walls would retain that heat, radiating it into the interior space, but not to the outside, so much, as the heat transmission through the stone is very slow. We must remember cold does not travel. It is the absence of heat energy.We also must remember that people 170 years ago, were just as smart as we are, and likely working with a rich oral communication, where traditional solutions were carefully considered, hence, all that work moving boulders.Much knowledge came from stone masons employed by the British government, locally here, when they built the Rideau canal, assume, back in the 1820's. Many were paid in land grants around Kingston.I am still trying to find out the history of this place, as it is really old, from artifacts that I have found while repairing everything.Happy New Year, and let's all get our self runners up and running!Cheers Warren


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  On Wed, 2 Jan 2019 at 10:13 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       

Kone, this makes sense.
It's interesting the idea of heat being part of a non dividable triad no matter which is primary or secondary.
Above or below the light constant impacting the heating or cooling, very interesting supposition!

In any of your experiments have you experienced extreme cooling to the point of frost?
I spoke to someone once who built the Kromrey device and said he could tune it tight enough to frost the coils of a nichrome resistance heater.
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Hi Mick
 I have not tried the ferro cell stuff...PM4Ghybrid guy makes some great ones.
 Kone

Hi Mick,

Here is W.B. Smith chapter 11 on gravity in his book: http://www.rexresearch.com/smith/newsci.htm#ch11gravity http://www.rexresearch.com/smith/newsci.htm#ch11gravity

Here is W.J. Hooper chapter 5 on gravity http://www.rexresearch.com/hooper/horizon.htm#chap5 http://www.rexresearch.com/hooper/horizon.htm#chap5

Citing from page 35 in the pdf version (http://www.rexresearch.com/hooper/NewHorizons.pdf http://www.rexresearch.com/hooper/NewHorizons.pdf):
"It is worth our while to note that we have six such unique field concepts shown on page
 2 instead of the classical two, or the modern particle dynamics with none! These new field
 concepts when understood in connection with the equations of modern electrodynamics
 completely eliminate the paradoxes and ambiguities which have plagued this subject for
 years and explain electromagnetic induction which particle electrodynamics cannot handle.
 Most of all, they open up new horizons for the unification of the three great fields of
 electricity, magnetism and gravitation."

There's also the report of experimenting with the motional fields: http://www.rexresearch.com/hooper/gibson.htm http://www.rexresearch.com/hooper/gibson.htm.

And then there is the antigravity device of Alexey Chekurov demonstrating that kind of fields: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzZxKT3BzBZOVVy8_YzP6Yw https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzZxKT3BzBZOVVy8_YzP6Yw.
By using mechanical rotation of the charges the speed is very much bigger than charges moving in metal conductors.

Regards
Ole
 

---In [email protected], <mkjekyll@...> wrote :

 Hi Ole,
 I had thought Smith was of the Graviton particle theory, my mistake.
 "The motional electric field always has the same direction from the moving charge regardless of how it's moving and it can't be shielded."  Can you elaborate?

 Sad how so much is lost to attrition.  Very similar to Tesla's work almost being lost if not people like the Corums and Norm did not take an interest.  There should be position for people like us to go dig through the archives of classified research and come up with alternative uses.
 I have read the Corso book.  Unfortunately the alien stuff never leads to anything concrete aside from some of the claims in the book.  It's like taking something that exists halfway between reality and the dream world and trying to make sense of it.  Another interesting alien story is the one about the Tall Whites who allegedly live somewhere in the Nevada test range at a base they setup as a way point hundreds of years back.  I think the book was called Millennial Hospitality, I enjoyed it.  Unfortunately most of the entities do not exist here so they must take one to there,  their dimensional space to interact.  Trying to get something physical and concrete from there to here is likely very difficult and energy intensive.  Seemingly the Tall Whites do exist in this dimension according to the book and are not just phantoms that flit in and out like most plasma beings tend to.

 On 1/3/2019 7:19 AM, onielsen@... mailto:onielsen@... [EVGRAY] wrote:

   Hi Mick,
 
 "As for Wilbur Smith he has some great stuff too but I don't agree that gravity has it's own particles but rather, more likely, is a result of the background quiescent aether flux that allows field lines to exist or propagate."
 The Smith/Hooper theory suggests that gravity is made from the difference in the motional electric field formed from electrons orbiting in atoms. The slight difference in the field strength from when the electron is in front of the nucleus versus behind the nucleus could be the cause of gravity according to their theory. The motional electric field always has the same direction from the moving charge regardless of how it's moving and it can't be shielded. Gravity has similar properties. According to Smith's theory the aether is electrons or positrons which are the smallest physical particle to exist. All bigger particles can be made by combinations of electrons (or positrons). This is also suggested by the Rhythmodynamics theory. 
 
 "Sadly Norm's applied proofs all come from weapons research because this planet is run by very lazy people who use the most base animal emotions, hatred, jealousy and fear in order to motivate and bound capital flow because it's time proven to work very very well."
 I watched the following video from a former US military colonel. He said W.B. Smith was a brilliant man. The military leaders think and act as to protect their country but are too lazy to follow up on things beside that. This makes lots of things look like secrets but could be attributed to forgetting about them. Then they get stored away forgotten and disappear until someone retires. The colonel's opinion is that even the government will disappear from itself if left to itself. Here is the video 'Roswell Revisited -- Colonel Phillip J. Corso:' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAfTY7NuceQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAfTY7NuceQ (20:12). His opinion is that ET technology should help us before being all forgotten which is why he has written a book on what he know.
 
 Regards
 Ole
 
 
 
 
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 Ole,
 I like Catt's concept of treating components as a transmission line, it is very elegant for engineering and his capacitor definition is much more accessible.  Whatever works the best for engineering I am all for.  As for Wilbur Smith he has some great stuff too but I don't agree that gravity has it's own particles but rather, more likely, is a result of the background quiescent aether flux that allows field lines to exist or propagate.  There are so many little odd anomalies we have no idea about and I don't think much of the physicists who get paid to create math problems only they can solve or halfway prove with trillion dollar research facilities.  The Rythmodynamics is also very special and makes much more sense when it comes to the aether flux and interference patterns.
 I still think we are leaving out something very fundamental and very difficult to observe from our perspective.  This little function or parameter or what have you would explain the transitional states we can't seem to pear into and presently only guess at.

 I agree with Dr Tesla's idea of doing ones best with engineering math but then for instance separating RF transmitter and receivers in real field tests in order to actually prove something before writing it down as a gospel.
 There has become too large an abyss between theoretical and applied and I think the research money is going to the wrong one.  But then the research money goes where the politicos at the think tanks decide it should, often to the detriment of humans and truth.  Scientists are paid not to think empirically so it is always refreshing to find one who still does.
 Sadly Norm's applied proofs all come from weapons research because this planet is run by very lazy people who use the most base animal emotions, hatred, jealousy and fear in order to motivate and bound capital flow because it's time proven to work very very well.  If the average person was brought up respecting science and real accomplishment rather than childish sports and glamour the human race could evolve rather than devolve.  For now defense contractors are going to be our best source of fringe science.  Remember what John Hutchinson said, something to the effect the civilian scientists and universities were the first to blow him off but the ones from the military defense contractors took him seriously enough to come out and have a serious look at things and patiently listen to him and watch his demos.

 On 12/31/2018 11:56 AM, onielsen@... mailto:onielsen@... [EVGRAY] wrote:

   Hi Mick,
 
 The theory of Wilbert B. Smith starts from nothing at all like pure emptiness without any space. Then he first builds up the space and fills in some density to construct the fields. The three fundamental fields are then Tempus (field of change) the electric field (divergence) and the magnetic field (curl). After that the fundamental particles (the electron and positron) are build which extends to quarks and other fractions of atoms.
 
 Thus to say which is the most fundamental of E and B it is the electric field E according to Smith. T or the tempic field is even more fundamental as this is the density required for making the electric field (divergence of density) and the electric field is required for making the magnetic field (stirring the electric field). Actually the fields can't be separated from each other as I understand it as the fields are unified into each other as shown by Ivor Catt. This causes trouble for Faraday's law of induction. The scientific society won't touch the theory of Catt even though seen from an engineering point of view it gives solutions instead of paradoxes. But also new problems arise as shown by Forrest Bishop. True science will solve the problems instead of turning away from the problems.
 
 Regards
 Ole
 
 
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 Norm,
 Hard to say it's the chicken and the egg again. B before the E and H...  OK photons are the current answer according to the link, however what if the B fields were there first, then it would be like magnetic super strings of some kind.  Now would these be particles or just pertubations of the background quiescent aether space flux?  There are the monopole particle theories such as Ed Leedskalnin or Russells magnetic light.  My theory would be a magnetic particle is the inverse of a photon and as such something not presently detectable directly.

 On 12/31/2018 8:03 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... mailto:nwootan@... [EVGRAY] wrote:

   
 When you set out to research a topic, You have to first define it.    Boy, the jury is still out, so to speak for the experts still do not know the exact composition of magnetic fields or lines of force.  Just just have to laugh. See 

 Ohttps://van.physics.illinois.edu/qa/listing.php?id=414
 

 Ok, guys, what is your idea as to composition of magnetic flux??

 

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When it all gets confusing, just go back to basics. See 
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_field

Energy is needed to generate a magnetic field both to work against the 
electric field that a changing magnetic field creates and to change the 
magnetization of any material within the magnetic field. For 
non-dispersive materials, this same energy is released when the magnetic 
field is destroyed so that the energy can be modeled as being stored in 
the magnetic field.

On 12/31/2018 8:59 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> https://www.alibaba.com/showroom/n55-neodymium-magnet.html Some of 
> these N-55 Neos and some explosives and Kone would be plumb dangerous! Lol
>
> On 12/31/2018 8:49 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>
>> http://digital.csic.es/bitstream/10261/117663/1/pressure-induced%20magnetic.pdf
>>
>> https://www.ijser.org/researchpaper/First-Principles-Study-of-Pressure-Induced-Phase-Transition-Electronic.pdf
>>
>> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/26721092_Pressure-Induced_Magnetic_Transition_in_Manganite_La075Ca025MnO3
>>
>> In conclusion, we find a monotonic decrease of the total
>> ferromagnetic moment as a function of pressure combined
>> with an anisotropic distortion of MnO6 octahedra leading
>> to A-type orbital ordering. The predominant effect of the
>> applied external pressure is to increase the strength of the
>> superexchange interaction relative to the double exchange
>> [8]. As a result, the system tends to increase the number of
>> AFM bonds by decreasing the dimension of the FM region
>> from 3 (F-type) to 2 (A-type). This directly leads to a
>> strong decrease in hopping integral in one direction, and
>> a concomitant increasing in the population of planar x2-y2
>> orbitals. The resultant nonuniform electron density couples
>> to the lattice via the Jahn-Teller effect causing a strained
>> distortion even under a uniform pressure. This explanation
>> is in agreement with the theoretical prediction of a general
>> sequence of FM ! A-AF ! C-AF ! G-AF under uniform
>> compression in La1
xSrxMnO3 [31].
>>
>> I told you that the SHIT just gets deeper and deeper.  Norm
>>
>> On 12/31/2018 7:16 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>> https://www.phys.ksu.edu/personal/wysin/notes/quantumEM.pdf
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_harmonic_oscillator
>>>
>>> This SHIT just keeps getting deeper.  I have to agree with Tesla.
>>>
>>> “Today’s scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, 
>>> and they wander off through equation after equation, and eventually 
>>> build a structure which has no relation to reality. ”
>>> ― Nikola Tesla
>>>
>>> On 12/31/2018 7:04 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>
>>>> https://van.physics.illinois.edu/qa/listing.php?id=414
>>>>
>>>> On 12/31/2018 7:03 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> When you set out to research a topic, You have to first define 
>>>>> it.    Boy, the jury is still out, so to speak for the experts 
>>>>> still do not know the exact composition of magnetic fields or 
>>>>> lines of force.  Just just have to laugh. See
>>>>>
>>>>> Ohttps://van.physics.illinois.edu/qa/listing.php?id=414
>>>>>
>>>>> Ok, guys, what is your idea as to composition of magnetic flux??
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12/31/2018 5:45 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explosive-driven_ferromagnetic_generator 
>>>>>> Source doc. for "pressure-induced magnetic phase transition."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12/31/2018 5:43 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directed-energy_weapon This 
>>>>>>> document is a pretty good review of the DEW technology so 
>>>>>>> far.    My prime interest is in the annihilation of magnetic 
>>>>>>> flux which according to the Wired article produces a stream of 
>>>>>>> particles that can be focused and channeled to a target. My 
>>>>>>> question is, What are the particles that composed the magnetic 
>>>>>>> flux before destruction and do they comply with the SUPER LIGHT 
>>>>>>> theory.  Folks, this is whole new ball game if we can create 
>>>>>>> vast energy from directly destroying magnet flux.   Kone, just 
>>>>>>> blow up a few of your 1.5 Tesla one inch cube magnets and have a 
>>>>>>> direct generation of "pressure-induced magnetic phase 
>>>>>>> transition." electric output in KV @ KA.     BTW, this is one 
>>>>>>> for Ole to comment on.  Lol
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 12/30/2018 1:51 PM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To add to the info on the Neo magnetic NNEMP weapon, take a 
>>>>>>>> look at this Army doc. 
>>>>>>>> https://www.wired.com/2009/03/army-turns-bomb/ In the old Flux 
>>>>>>>> compression Generators there was a need for HV capacitor bank 
>>>>>>>> and a long solenoid coil to provide the powerful magnetic flux 
>>>>>>>> field needed to be annihilated which yielded the EMP 
>>>>>>>> (Magneto-electric pulse).  It  reasoned that the new family of 
>>>>>>>> Neo magnets held the necessary flux strength which negated the 
>>>>>>>> heavy capacitors and copper solenoid coil.  With a super fast 
>>>>>>>> explosive , Octanitrocubane  could destroy the Neo's in the 
>>>>>>>> nanosecond range needed for the EMP shot (magnetic flux 
>>>>>>>> converted into particle flux which is the constituents of the 
>>>>>>>> magnetic field)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octanitrocubane
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 12/30/2018 11:42 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Remember that my main line of research is the Magnetic flux 
>>>>>>>>> annihilation-Reconnect EMP phenomenon.  Here is a first step 
>>>>>>>>> into learning more about the Magnetoelectric effect.  Just 
>>>>>>>>> build sensors. See attachment.   Now that you have a sensor 
>>>>>>>>> lets look at the Magnetoelectric (EMP output when you destroy 
>>>>>>>>> a very powerful neo magnet via rapid explosives.  Remember 
>>>>>>>>> that energy cannot be destroyed but can convert into another 
>>>>>>>>> form of energy we call the Magnetoelectric EMP. See 
>>>>>>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explosive-driven_ferromagnetic_generator 
>>>>>>>>> This is a direct conversion of powerful magnetic flux field 
>>>>>>>>> directly into very high power electrical output.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 12/30/2018 11:29 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Tesla's Pyro generator to which I referred which took 
>>>>>>>>>> advantage of iron phase shift.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/patents/us-patent-428057-pyromagneto-electric-generator
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Somewhere here we have to jump back and address IONS both positive and negative.  See my 1996 paper for KeelyNet titled WHAT is Heat which dealt with ionization and its potential.  The loss or gain of electrons in the atomic lattice causes the precise predictability of the various phase change points.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This is the Bad Boy that I wanted to build using nitrogen gas and an alpha emitter electrodes.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What is Heat #2
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> For about 10 years I have been studying the effects of
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> heating and cooling associated with the phase change of
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> liquids with the hope of building a simple generator of
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> electrical power around the phenomenon.The reason for this
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> interest is based on the theory that energy can be extracted
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> from the ambient background via thermal differentials.My
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> line of thinking really took off back when I experimented
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> with the all too familiar Peltier junction devices found in
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> electronic cooling devices.Would you believe that most
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> people do not understand how these devices move thermal
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> energy through a current flow across a semiconductor
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> junction.Historically we find that German physicist,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thomas Seebeck back in 1820 observed that when heat was
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> applied to a junction of copper and steel wire that
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> electrical energy resulted.Later in 1834 Jean Peltier
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> discovered that when a direct current was applied to two
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> dissimilar metals the junction got hot or cold.It was not
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> until 1838 that Emil Lenz clearly showed the importance of
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> both Seebeck and Peltier s discoveries by placing a drop of
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> water on the junction of dissimilar metals which froze then
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> melted when the polarity of the direct current was
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> reversed.These discoveries remained dormant for over 100
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> years because of the unavailability of semiconductor
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> materials which could provide the wide temperature
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> differentials.In the 1930 s semiconductor materials became
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> available which revived the electric cooling principles.In
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the 1960 s many companies began building spot cooling
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> devices and refrigerators based on these effects using a
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> junction material of bismuth-telluride. Today more advanced
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> materials are used with the basic parameters of being a pore
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> thermal conductor but being an excellent electrical
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> conductor. The dissimilar materials must provide a high
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> coefficient of voltage temperature relationship.The first
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Peltier devices that I experimented with back about 10 years
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ago were built by Marlow Industries here in Dallas.With a
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> small temperature differential across the device a weak
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> current with an attendant voltage was developed.Increasing
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the differential provided a proportional increase in current
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> and voltage.About 6 years ago I posted a chart of the
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> wattage generated from two different size Peltier chips on
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the KeelyNet BBS.My curiosity was based on the puzzle of
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> how electron flow could move thermal energy across the
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> junctions and how electrical energy was produced by moving
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> thermal energy across the junction.This is a directly
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> reversible situation based on polarity.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Now let us look at a very familiar parallel process used in
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> refrigeration, cooling and heating devices employing phase
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> change material such as water and refrigerants.We have
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> always been led to believe that evaporating water provided
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> cooling effects which is a mechanical process. By the same
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> mechanical process we are provided heating effects by the
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> condensation of a gas back to a liquid phase change.Would
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> you believe that any material that undergoes a phase change
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> provides an attendant electrical effect.Back in 1840
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Armstrong invented an electrostatic generator based on
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> escaping steam through insulated nozzles which provided one
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> of the most powerful devices of this type ever built.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Popular belief was that this was a frictional process with
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the electrical output resulting from the steam friction
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> passing through the nozzles.After reading an old (1920 s)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thermodynamics in Chemistry text book I realized that the
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> phase change of materials was an electrical phenomenon and
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> not purely mechanical.The atoms of the material lose or
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> gain electrons in the process which accounts for the
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> discrepancy in the energy equation when a material
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> transitions between phases.More energy is present after
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the phase change back to the lower form or atomic state. The
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> text book stated that this phenomenon could not be
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> explained.When Jerry and I attended a Conference hosted by
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hal Puthoff down in Austin back about 6 years ago a
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> physicist from Austria presented a paper on the phase change
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> of water and the attendant electrical phenomenon which is
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> totally not understood by modern science.Now my suspicions
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> were confirmed that phase changes of materials are an
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> electrostatic phenomenon, which leads us to the fundamental
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> question of, What is heat?We were told in the school
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> that heat is the presence of energy and cool is the absence
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> of energy.What is the form of this energy?Let us look at
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> a very simple example of heating which may explain this
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> process.When sunlight strikes an absorbing surface it is
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> heated because electrons in the material are converted to
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> photons which are emitted in the infrared band of light
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> leaving the material in a net positive state or hot.The
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> more electrons a material looses the hotter it becomes.Now
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the inverse situation is explored by evaporating some water
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> from the surface of a material which leaves the surface in a
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> net negative state or cold.Heat or cold is based on the
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ion relationship in the material.When we apply a flame
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> (ionizing) to a material we cause the emission of photons
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> which is basically stripping away electrons from the atomic
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> structure causing a gross net positive situation to occur.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Now we are getting a picture as to how an electric current
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> across the Peltier junction can transport thermal energy
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> (ions).Since the energy is in the form of presence or
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> absence of electrons then it is a simple explanation as to
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> how the process works.All phase change processes work the
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> same way basically via ion transport and are not mechanical
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> processes which we were taught.Everything in chemistry is
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> an electrical or electrostatic process at the atomic level
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> based on the ionized state of the atoms involved.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> At a Vangard Science Round table discussion several years ago
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> we talked about the ion wind method of fire fighting in
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> which ionized air will extinguish a flame because of the
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> cooling effects.Now we see Patents issued based on
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> negative ion spraying of a surface causing it to rapidly
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> cool because it becomes net negative charged.This is a
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> very efficient method of air-conditioning because an ion
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> generator operates at very high voltages with very little
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> current involved.It is possible to develop this ion
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> transport (thermal energy) to provide direct electrical
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> output from very subtle temperature differentials.Remember
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> that this is a direct reversible process where a thermal
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> differential will cause a development of current and voltage
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> as in the Peltier device.I hope that this dialog will
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> provide some food for thought out there on the KeelyNet.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Please provide some feedback on this very interesting line
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> of experimentation.Norm
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 12/30/2018 10:49 AM, Bob Paddock wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 9:42 AM Norman Wootan<[email protected]>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> As molten iron cools past its freezing point of 1538 °C, it crystallizes
>>>>>>>>>>> Where would something like the Barkenhausen effect, fit into this
>>>>>>>>>>> whole Iron thing?; See Volume-II of the Feynman Lecture on Physics.
>>>>>>>>>>> Feynman demonstrates energy generation, at a small scale.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> There is also "CATER, Joseph: The Awesome Life Force ~ A 1980s classic
>>>>>>>>>>> review of alternative sciences (PDF)",
>>>>>>>>>>> based on a mixture of conventional and original ideas by Cater.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://rexresearch.com/pdf/CaterAwesomeLifeForce.pdf
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Pg 126 "Nature of Magnetic Fields", pg 167 "Soft Electrons, Magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>> fields", pg 204 "Transmission through materials"
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> which lead us to pg 256 "THE SELF-SUSTAINING ELECTRIC GENERATOR",
>>>>>>>>>>> based on Hubbard's Generator made of Iron shown later in the book.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We also have those that prefer to use metals that were forged
>>>>>>>>>>> pre-atomic-blasts in some esoteric devices. ?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ��My brain is only a receiver, in the Universe there is a core from which we obtain knowledge, strength and inspiration. I have not penetrated into the secrets of this core, but I know that it exists.”
>>>>>>>>>>>> ― Nikola Tesla
>>>>>>>>>>> Considered the Raikov Effect or Deep Trance Identification?
>>>>>>>>>>>
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