Re: [EVGRAY] re: Longitudinal wave antenna

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directed-energy_weapon  This document is 
a pretty good review of the DEW technology so far. My prime interest is 
in the annihilation of magnetic flux which according to the Wired 
article produces a stream of particles that can be focused and channeled 
to a target. My question is, What are the particles that composed the 
magnetic flux before destruction and do they comply with the SUPER LIGHT 
theory.  Folks, this is whole new ball game if we can create vast energy 
from directly destroying magnet flux.   Kone, just blow up a few of your 
1.5 Tesla one inch cube magnets and have a direct generation of 
"pressure-induced magnetic phase transition." electric output in KV @ 
KA.     BTW, this is one for Ole to comment on.  Lol

On 12/30/2018 1:51 PM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>
> To add to the info on the Neo magnetic NNEMP weapon, take a look at 
> this Army doc. https://www.wired.com/2009/03/army-turns-bomb/ In the 
> old Flux compression Generators there was a need for HV capacitor bank 
> and a long solenoid coil to provide the powerful magnetic flux field 
> needed to be annihilated which yielded the EMP (Magneto-electric 
> pulse).  It  reasoned that the new family of Neo magnets held the 
> necessary flux strength which negated the heavy capacitors and copper 
> solenoid coil.  With a super fast explosive , Octanitrocubane  could 
> destroy the Neo's in the nanosecond range needed for the EMP shot 
> (magnetic flux converted into particle flux which is the constituents 
> of the magnetic field)
>
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octanitrocubane
>
>
> On 12/30/2018 11:42 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>> Remember that my main line of research is the Magnetic flux 
>> annihilation-Reconnect EMP phenomenon.  Here is a first step into 
>> learning more about the Magnetoelectric effect.  Just build sensors. 
>> See attachment.   Now that you have a sensor lets look at the 
>> Magnetoelectric (EMP output when you destroy a very powerful neo 
>> magnet via rapid explosives.  Remember that energy cannot be 
>> destroyed but can convert into another form of energy we call the 
>> Magnetoelectric EMP.  See 
>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explosive-driven_ferromagnetic_generator 
>> This is a direct conversion of powerful magnetic flux field directly 
>> into very high power electrical output.
>>
>> On 12/30/2018 11:29 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>
>>> Tesla's Pyro generator to which I referred which took advantage of 
>>> iron phase shift.
>>>
>>> https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/patents/us-patent-428057-pyromagneto-electric-generator
>>>
>>> Somewhere here we have to jump back and address IONS both positive and negative.  See my 1996 paper for KeelyNet titled WHAT is Heat which dealt with ionization and its potential.  The loss or gain of electrons in the atomic lattice causes the precise predictability of the various phase change points.
>>>
>>> This is the Bad Boy that I wanted to build using nitrogen gas and an alpha emitter electrodes.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What is Heat #2
>>>
>>> For about 10 years I have been studying the effects of
>>>
>>> heating and cooling associated with the phase change of
>>>
>>> liquids with the hope of building a simple generator of
>>>
>>> electrical power around the phenomenon.The reason for this
>>>
>>> interest is based on the theory that energy can be extracted
>>>
>>> from the ambient background via thermal differentials.My
>>>
>>> line of thinking really took off back when I experimented
>>>
>>> with the all too familiar Peltier junction devices found in
>>>
>>> electronic cooling devices.Would you believe that most
>>>
>>> people do not understand how these devices move thermal
>>>
>>> energy through a current flow across a semiconductor
>>>
>>> junction.Historically we find that German physicist,
>>>
>>> Thomas Seebeck back in 1820 observed that when heat was
>>>
>>> applied to a junction of copper and steel wire that
>>>
>>> electrical energy resulted.Later in 1834 Jean Peltier
>>>
>>> discovered that when a direct current was applied to two
>>>
>>> dissimilar metals the junction got hot or cold.It was not
>>>
>>> until 1838 that Emil Lenz clearly showed the importance of
>>>
>>> both Seebeck and Peltier s discoveries by placing a drop of
>>>
>>> water on the junction of dissimilar metals which froze then
>>>
>>> melted when the polarity of the direct current was
>>>
>>> reversed.These discoveries remained dormant for over 100
>>>
>>> years because of the unavailability of semiconductor
>>>
>>> materials which could provide the wide temperature
>>>
>>> differentials.In the 1930 s semiconductor materials became
>>>
>>> available which revived the electric cooling principles.In
>>>
>>> the 1960 s many companies began building spot cooling
>>>
>>> devices and refrigerators based on these effects using a
>>>
>>> junction material of bismuth-telluride. Today more advanced
>>>
>>> materials are used with the basic parameters of being a pore
>>>
>>> thermal conductor but being an excellent electrical
>>>
>>> conductor. The dissimilar materials must provide a high
>>>
>>> coefficient of voltage temperature relationship.The first
>>>
>>> Peltier devices that I experimented with back about 10 years
>>>
>>> ago were built by Marlow Industries here in Dallas.With a
>>>
>>> small temperature differential across the device a weak
>>>
>>> current with an attendant voltage was developed.Increasing
>>>
>>> the differential provided a proportional increase in current
>>>
>>> and voltage.About 6 years ago I posted a chart of the
>>>
>>> wattage generated from two different size Peltier chips on
>>>
>>> the KeelyNet BBS.My curiosity was based on the puzzle of
>>>
>>> how electron flow could move thermal energy across the
>>>
>>> junctions and how electrical energy was produced by moving
>>>
>>> thermal energy across the junction.This is a directly
>>>
>>> reversible situation based on polarity.
>>>
>>> Now let us look at a very familiar parallel process used in
>>>
>>> refrigeration, cooling and heating devices employing phase
>>>
>>> change material such as water and refrigerants.We have
>>>
>>> always been led to believe that evaporating water provided
>>>
>>> cooling effects which is a mechanical process. By the same
>>>
>>> mechanical process we are provided heating effects by the
>>>
>>> condensation of a gas back to a liquid phase change.Would
>>>
>>> you believe that any material that undergoes a phase change
>>>
>>> provides an attendant electrical effect.Back in 1840
>>>
>>> Armstrong invented an electrostatic generator based on
>>>
>>> escaping steam through insulated nozzles which provided one
>>>
>>> of the most powerful devices of this type ever built.
>>>
>>> Popular belief was that this was a frictional process with
>>>
>>> the electrical output resulting from the steam friction
>>>
>>> passing through the nozzles.After reading an old (1920 s)
>>>
>>> Thermodynamics in Chemistry text book I realized that the
>>>
>>> phase change of materials was an electrical phenomenon and
>>>
>>> not purely mechanical.The atoms of the material lose or
>>>
>>> gain electrons in the process which accounts for the
>>>
>>> discrepancy in the energy equation when a material
>>>
>>> transitions between phases.More energy is present after
>>>
>>> the phase change back to the lower form or atomic state. The
>>>
>>> text book stated that this phenomenon could not be
>>>
>>> explained.When Jerry and I attended a Conference hosted by
>>>
>>> Hal Puthoff down in Austin back about 6 years ago a
>>>
>>> physicist from Austria presented a paper on the phase change
>>>
>>> of water and the attendant electrical phenomenon which is
>>>
>>> totally not understood by modern science.Now my suspicions
>>>
>>> were confirmed that phase changes of materials are an
>>>
>>> electrostatic phenomenon, which leads us to the fundamental
>>>
>>> question of, What is heat?We were told in the school
>>>
>>> that heat is the presence of energy and cool is the absence
>>>
>>> of energy.What is the form of this energy?Let us look at
>>>
>>> a very simple example of heating which may explain this
>>>
>>> process.When sunlight strikes an absorbing surface it is
>>>
>>> heated because electrons in the material are converted to
>>>
>>> photons which are emitted in the infrared band of light
>>>
>>> leaving the material in a net positive state or hot.The
>>>
>>> more electrons a material looses the hotter it becomes.Now
>>>
>>> the inverse situation is explored by evaporating some water
>>>
>>> from the surface of a material which leaves the surface in a
>>>
>>> net negative state or cold.Heat or cold is based on the
>>>
>>> ion relationship in the material.When we apply a flame
>>>
>>> (ionizing) to a material we cause the emission of photons
>>>
>>> which is basically stripping away electrons from the atomic
>>>
>>> structure causing a gross net positive situation to occur.
>>>
>>> Now we are getting a picture as to how an electric current
>>>
>>> across the Peltier junction can transport thermal energy
>>>
>>> (ions).Since the energy is in the form of presence or
>>>
>>> absence of electrons then it is a simple explanation as to
>>>
>>> how the process works.All phase change processes work the
>>>
>>> same way basically via ion transport and are not mechanical
>>>
>>> processes which we were taught.Everything in chemistry is
>>>
>>> an electrical or electrostatic process at the atomic level
>>>
>>> based on the ionized state of the atoms involved.
>>>
>>> At a Vangard Science Round table discussion several years ago
>>>
>>> we talked about the ion wind method of fire fighting in
>>>
>>> which ionized air will extinguish a flame because of the
>>>
>>> cooling effects.Now we see Patents issued based on
>>>
>>> negative ion spraying of a surface causing it to rapidly
>>>
>>> cool because it becomes net negative charged.This is a
>>>
>>> very efficient method of air-conditioning because an ion
>>>
>>> generator operates at very high voltages with very little
>>>
>>> current involved.It is possible to develop this ion
>>>
>>> transport (thermal energy) to provide direct electrical
>>>
>>> output from very subtle temperature differentials.Remember
>>>
>>> that this is a direct reversible process where a thermal
>>>
>>> differential will cause a development of current and voltage
>>>
>>> as in the Peltier device.I hope that this dialog will
>>>
>>> provide some food for thought out there on the KeelyNet.
>>>
>>> Please provide some feedback on this very interesting line
>>>
>>> of experimentation.Norm
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/30/2018 10:49 AM, Bob Paddock wrote:
>>>> On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 9:42 AM Norman Wootan<[email protected]>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> As molten iron cools past its freezing point of 1538 °C, it crystallizes
>>>> Where would something like the Barkenhausen effect, fit into this
>>>> whole Iron thing?; See Volume-II of the Feynman Lecture on Physics.
>>>> Feynman demonstrates energy generation, at a small scale.
>>>>
>>>> There is also "CATER, Joseph: The Awesome Life Force ~ A 1980s classic
>>>> review of alternative sciences (PDF)",
>>>> based on a mixture of conventional and original ideas by Cater.
>>>>
>>>> http://rexresearch.com/pdf/CaterAwesomeLifeForce.pdf
>>>>
>>>> Pg 126 "Nature of Magnetic Fields", pg 167 "Soft Electrons, Magnetic
>>>> fields", pg 204 "Transmission through materials"
>>>>
>>>> which lead us to pg 256 "THE SELF-SUSTAINING ELECTRIC GENERATOR",
>>>> based on Hubbard's Generator made of Iron shown later in the book.
>>>>
>>>> We also have those that prefer to use metals that were forged
>>>> pre-atomic-blasts in some esoteric devices. ?
>>>>
>>>>> ��My brain is only a receiver, in the Universe there is a core from which we obtain knowledge, strength and inspiration. I have not penetrated into the secrets of this core, but I know that it exists.”
>>>>> ― Nikola Tesla
>>>> Considered the Raikov Effect or Deep Trance Identification?
>>>>
>>

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explosive-driven_ferromagnetic_generator 
Source doc. for "pressure-induced magnetic phase transition."

On 12/31/2018 5:43 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directed-energy_weapon This document 
> is a pretty good review of the DEW technology so far.    My prime 
> interest is in the annihilation of magnetic flux which according to 
> the Wired article produces a stream of particles that can be focused 
> and channeled to a target. My question is, What are the particles that 
> composed the magnetic flux before destruction and do they comply with 
> the SUPER LIGHT theory.  Folks, this is whole new ball game if we can 
> create vast energy from directly destroying magnet flux.   Kone, just 
> blow up a few of your 1.5 Tesla one inch cube magnets and have a 
> direct generation of "pressure-induced magnetic phase transition." 
> electric output in KV @ KA.     BTW, this is one for Ole to comment 
> on.  Lol
>
> On 12/30/2018 1:51 PM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>
>> To add to the info on the Neo magnetic NNEMP weapon, take a look at 
>> this Army doc. https://www.wired.com/2009/03/army-turns-bomb/ In the 
>> old Flux compression Generators there was a need for HV capacitor 
>> bank and a long solenoid coil to provide the powerful magnetic flux 
>> field needed to be annihilated which yielded the EMP 
>> (Magneto-electric pulse).  It  reasoned that the new family of Neo 
>> magnets held the necessary flux strength which negated the heavy 
>> capacitors and copper solenoid coil. With a super fast explosive , 
>> Octanitrocubane  could destroy the Neo's in the nanosecond range 
>> needed for the EMP shot (magnetic flux converted into particle flux 
>> which is the constituents of the magnetic field)
>>
>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octanitrocubane
>>
>>
>> On 12/30/2018 11:42 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>> Remember that my main line of research is the Magnetic flux 
>>> annihilation-Reconnect EMP phenomenon. Here is a first step into 
>>> learning more about the Magnetoelectric effect.  Just build sensors. 
>>> See attachment.   Now that you have a sensor lets look at the 
>>> Magnetoelectric (EMP output when you destroy a very powerful neo 
>>> magnet via rapid explosives. Remember that energy cannot be 
>>> destroyed but can convert into another form of energy we call the 
>>> Magnetoelectric EMP.  See 
>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explosive-driven_ferromagnetic_generator 
>>> This is a direct conversion of powerful magnetic flux field directly 
>>> into very high power electrical output.
>>>
>>> On 12/30/2018 11:29 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Tesla's Pyro generator to which I referred which took advantage of 
>>>> iron phase shift.
>>>>
>>>> https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/patents/us-patent-428057-pyromagneto-electric-generator
>>>>
>>>> Somewhere here we have to jump back and address IONS both positive and negative.  See my 1996 paper for KeelyNet titled WHAT is Heat which dealt with ionization and its potential.  The loss or gain of electrons in the atomic lattice causes the precise predictability of the various phase change points.
>>>>
>>>> This is the Bad Boy that I wanted to build using nitrogen gas and an alpha emitter electrodes.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What is Heat #2
>>>>
>>>> For about 10 years I have been studying the effects of
>>>>
>>>> heating and cooling associated with the phase change of
>>>>
>>>> liquids with the hope of building a simple generator of
>>>>
>>>> electrical power around the phenomenon.The reason for this
>>>>
>>>> interest is based on the theory that energy can be extracted
>>>>
>>>> from the ambient background via thermal differentials.My
>>>>
>>>> line of thinking really took off back when I experimented
>>>>
>>>> with the all too familiar Peltier junction devices found in
>>>>
>>>> electronic cooling devices.Would you believe that most
>>>>
>>>> people do not understand how these devices move thermal
>>>>
>>>> energy through a current flow across a semiconductor
>>>>
>>>> junction.Historically we find that German physicist,
>>>>
>>>> Thomas Seebeck back in 1820 observed that when heat was
>>>>
>>>> applied to a junction of copper and steel wire that
>>>>
>>>> electrical energy resulted.Later in 1834 Jean Peltier
>>>>
>>>> discovered that when a direct current was applied to two
>>>>
>>>> dissimilar metals the junction got hot or cold.It was not
>>>>
>>>> until 1838 that Emil Lenz clearly showed the importance of
>>>>
>>>> both Seebeck and Peltier s discoveries by placing a drop of
>>>>
>>>> water on the junction of dissimilar metals which froze then
>>>>
>>>> melted when the polarity of the direct current was
>>>>
>>>> reversed.These discoveries remained dormant for over 100
>>>>
>>>> years because of the unavailability of semiconductor
>>>>
>>>> materials which could provide the wide temperature
>>>>
>>>> differentials.In the 1930 s semiconductor materials became
>>>>
>>>> available which revived the electric cooling principles.In
>>>>
>>>> the 1960 s many companies began building spot cooling
>>>>
>>>> devices and refrigerators based on these effects using a
>>>>
>>>> junction material of bismuth-telluride. Today more advanced
>>>>
>>>> materials are used with the basic parameters of being a pore
>>>>
>>>> thermal conductor but being an excellent electrical
>>>>
>>>> conductor. The dissimilar materials must provide a high
>>>>
>>>> coefficient of voltage temperature relationship.The first
>>>>
>>>> Peltier devices that I experimented with back about 10 years
>>>>
>>>> ago were built by Marlow Industries here in Dallas.With a
>>>>
>>>> small temperature differential across the device a weak
>>>>
>>>> current with an attendant voltage was developed.Increasing
>>>>
>>>> the differential provided a proportional increase in current
>>>>
>>>> and voltage.About 6 years ago I posted a chart of the
>>>>
>>>> wattage generated from two different size Peltier chips on
>>>>
>>>> the KeelyNet BBS.My curiosity was based on the puzzle of
>>>>
>>>> how electron flow could move thermal energy across the
>>>>
>>>> junctions and how electrical energy was produced by moving
>>>>
>>>> thermal energy across the junction.This is a directly
>>>>
>>>> reversible situation based on polarity.
>>>>
>>>> Now let us look at a very familiar parallel process used in
>>>>
>>>> refrigeration, cooling and heating devices employing phase
>>>>
>>>> change material such as water and refrigerants.We have
>>>>
>>>> always been led to believe that evaporating water provided
>>>>
>>>> cooling effects which is a mechanical process. By the same
>>>>
>>>> mechanical process we are provided heating effects by the
>>>>
>>>> condensation of a gas back to a liquid phase change.Would
>>>>
>>>> you believe that any material that undergoes a phase change
>>>>
>>>> provides an attendant electrical effect.Back in 1840
>>>>
>>>> Armstrong invented an electrostatic generator based on
>>>>
>>>> escaping steam through insulated nozzles which provided one
>>>>
>>>> of the most powerful devices of this type ever built.
>>>>
>>>> Popular belief was that this was a frictional process with
>>>>
>>>> the electrical output resulting from the steam friction
>>>>
>>>> passing through the nozzles.After reading an old (1920 s)
>>>>
>>>> Thermodynamics in Chemistry text book I realized that the
>>>>
>>>> phase change of materials was an electrical phenomenon and
>>>>
>>>> not purely mechanical.The atoms of the material lose or
>>>>
>>>> gain electrons in the process which accounts for the
>>>>
>>>> discrepancy in the energy equation when a material
>>>>
>>>> transitions between phases.More energy is present after
>>>>
>>>> the phase change back to the lower form or atomic state. The
>>>>
>>>> text book stated that this phenomenon could not be
>>>>
>>>> explained.When Jerry and I attended a Conference hosted by
>>>>
>>>> Hal Puthoff down in Austin back about 6 years ago a
>>>>
>>>> physicist from Austria presented a paper on the phase change
>>>>
>>>> of water and the attendant electrical phenomenon which is
>>>>
>>>> totally not understood by modern science.Now my suspicions
>>>>
>>>> were confirmed that phase changes of materials are an
>>>>
>>>> electrostatic phenomenon, which leads us to the fundamental
>>>>
>>>> question of, What is heat?We were told in the school
>>>>
>>>> that heat is the presence of energy and cool is the absence
>>>>
>>>> of energy.What is the form of this energy?Let us look at
>>>>
>>>> a very simple example of heating which may explain this
>>>>
>>>> process.When sunlight strikes an absorbing surface it is
>>>>
>>>> heated because electrons in the material are converted to
>>>>
>>>> photons which are emitted in the infrared band of light
>>>>
>>>> leaving the material in a net positive state or hot.The
>>>>
>>>> more electrons a material looses the hotter it becomes.Now
>>>>
>>>> the inverse situation is explored by evaporating some water
>>>>
>>>> from the surface of a material which leaves the surface in a
>>>>
>>>> net negative state or cold.Heat or cold is based on the
>>>>
>>>> ion relationship in the material.When we apply a flame
>>>>
>>>> (ionizing) to a material we cause the emission of photons
>>>>
>>>> which is basically stripping away electrons from the atomic
>>>>
>>>> structure causing a gross net positive situation to occur.
>>>>
>>>> Now we are getting a picture as to how an electric current
>>>>
>>>> across the Peltier junction can transport thermal energy
>>>>
>>>> (ions).Since the energy is in the form of presence or
>>>>
>>>> absence of electrons then it is a simple explanation as to
>>>>
>>>> how the process works.All phase change processes work the
>>>>
>>>> same way basically via ion transport and are not mechanical
>>>>
>>>> processes which we were taught.Everything in chemistry is
>>>>
>>>> an electrical or electrostatic process at the atomic level
>>>>
>>>> based on the ionized state of the atoms involved.
>>>>
>>>> At a Vangard Science Round table discussion several years ago
>>>>
>>>> we talked about the ion wind method of fire fighting in
>>>>
>>>> which ionized air will extinguish a flame because of the
>>>>
>>>> cooling effects.Now we see Patents issued based on
>>>>
>>>> negative ion spraying of a surface causing it to rapidly
>>>>
>>>> cool because it becomes net negative charged.This is a
>>>>
>>>> very efficient method of air-conditioning because an ion
>>>>
>>>> generator operates at very high voltages with very little
>>>>
>>>> current involved.It is possible to develop this ion
>>>>
>>>> transport (thermal energy) to provide direct electrical
>>>>
>>>> output from very subtle temperature differentials.Remember
>>>>
>>>> that this is a direct reversible process where a thermal
>>>>
>>>> differential will cause a development of current and voltage
>>>>
>>>> as in the Peltier device.I hope that this dialog will
>>>>
>>>> provide some food for thought out there on the KeelyNet.
>>>>
>>>> Please provide some feedback on this very interesting line
>>>>
>>>> of experimentation.Norm
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 12/30/2018 10:49 AM, Bob Paddock wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 9:42 AM Norman Wootan<[email protected]>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> As molten iron cools past its freezing point of 1538 °C, it crystallizes
>>>>> Where would something like the Barkenhausen effect, fit into this
>>>>> whole Iron thing?; See Volume-II of the Feynman Lecture on Physics.
>>>>> Feynman demonstrates energy generation, at a small scale.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is also "CATER, Joseph: The Awesome Life Force ~ A 1980s classic
>>>>> review of alternative sciences (PDF)",
>>>>> based on a mixture of conventional and original ideas by Cater.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://rexresearch.com/pdf/CaterAwesomeLifeForce.pdf
>>>>>
>>>>> Pg 126 "Nature of Magnetic Fields", pg 167 "Soft Electrons, Magnetic
>>>>> fields", pg 204 "Transmission through materials"
>>>>>
>>>>> which lead us to pg 256 "THE SELF-SUSTAINING ELECTRIC GENERATOR",
>>>>> based on Hubbard's Generator made of Iron shown later in the book.
>>>>>
>>>>> We also have those that prefer to use metals that were forged
>>>>> pre-atomic-blasts in some esoteric devices. ?
>>>>>
>>>>>> ��My brain is only a receiver, in the Universe there is a core from which we obtain knowledge, strength and inspiration. I have not penetrated into the secrets of this core, but I know that it exists.”
>>>>>> ― Nikola Tesla
>>>>> Considered the Raikov Effect or Deep Trance Identification?
>>>>>
>>>

When you set out to research a topic, You have to first define it.    
Boy, the jury is still out, so to speak for the experts still do not 
know the exact composition of magnetic fields or lines of force.  Just 
just have to laugh. See

Ohttps://van.physics.illinois.edu/qa/listing.php?id=414

Ok, guys, what is your idea as to composition of magnetic flux??


On 12/31/2018 5:45 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explosive-driven_ferromagnetic_generator 
> Source doc. for "pressure-induced magnetic phase transition."
>
> On 12/31/2018 5:43 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>
>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directed-energy_weapon This document 
>> is a pretty good review of the DEW technology so far.    My prime 
>> interest is in the annihilation of magnetic flux which according to 
>> the Wired article produces a stream of particles that can be focused 
>> and channeled to a target. My question is, What are the particles 
>> that composed the magnetic flux before destruction and do they comply 
>> with the SUPER LIGHT theory.  Folks, this is whole new ball game if 
>> we can create vast energy from directly destroying magnet flux. Kone, 
>> just blow up a few of your 1.5 Tesla one inch cube magnets and have a 
>> direct generation of "pressure-induced magnetic phase transition." 
>> electric output in KV @ KA. BTW, this is one for Ole to comment on.  Lol
>>
>> On 12/30/2018 1:51 PM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>
>>> To add to the info on the Neo magnetic NNEMP weapon, take a look at 
>>> this Army doc. https://www.wired.com/2009/03/army-turns-bomb/ In the 
>>> old Flux compression Generators there was a need for HV capacitor 
>>> bank and a long solenoid coil to provide the powerful magnetic flux 
>>> field needed to be annihilated which yielded the EMP 
>>> (Magneto-electric pulse).  It  reasoned that the new family of Neo 
>>> magnets held the necessary flux strength which negated the heavy 
>>> capacitors and copper solenoid coil.  With a super fast explosive , 
>>> Octanitrocubane  could destroy the Neo's in the nanosecond range 
>>> needed for the EMP shot (magnetic flux converted into particle flux 
>>> which is the constituents of the magnetic field)
>>>
>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octanitrocubane
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/30/2018 11:42 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Remember that my main line of research is the Magnetic flux 
>>>> annihilation-Reconnect EMP phenomenon.  Here is a first step into 
>>>> learning more about the Magnetoelectric effect.  Just build 
>>>> sensors. See attachment.   Now that you have a sensor lets look at 
>>>> the Magnetoelectric (EMP output when you destroy a very powerful 
>>>> neo magnet via rapid explosives.  Remember that energy cannot be 
>>>> destroyed but can convert into another form of energy we call the 
>>>> Magnetoelectric EMP.  See 
>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explosive-driven_ferromagnetic_generator 
>>>> This is a direct conversion of powerful magnetic flux field 
>>>> directly into very high power electrical output.
>>>>
>>>> On 12/30/2018 11:29 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Tesla's Pyro generator to which I referred which took advantage of 
>>>>> iron phase shift.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/patents/us-patent-428057-pyromagneto-electric-generator
>>>>>
>>>>> Somewhere here we have to jump back and address IONS both positive and negative.  See my 1996 paper for KeelyNet titled WHAT is Heat which dealt with ionization and its potential.  The loss or gain of electrons in the atomic lattice causes the precise predictability of the various phase change points.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is the Bad Boy that I wanted to build using nitrogen gas and an alpha emitter electrodes.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What is Heat #2
>>>>>
>>>>> For about 10 years I have been studying the effects of
>>>>>
>>>>> heating and cooling associated with the phase change of
>>>>>
>>>>> liquids with the hope of building a simple generator of
>>>>>
>>>>> electrical power around the phenomenon.The reason for this
>>>>>
>>>>> interest is based on the theory that energy can be extracted
>>>>>
>>>>> from the ambient background via thermal differentials.My
>>>>>
>>>>> line of thinking really took off back when I experimented
>>>>>
>>>>> with the all too familiar Peltier junction devices found in
>>>>>
>>>>> electronic cooling devices.Would you believe that most
>>>>>
>>>>> people do not understand how these devices move thermal
>>>>>
>>>>> energy through a current flow across a semiconductor
>>>>>
>>>>> junction.Historically we find that German physicist,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thomas Seebeck back in 1820 observed that when heat was
>>>>>
>>>>> applied to a junction of copper and steel wire that
>>>>>
>>>>> electrical energy resulted.Later in 1834 Jean Peltier
>>>>>
>>>>> discovered that when a direct current was applied to two
>>>>>
>>>>> dissimilar metals the junction got hot or cold.It was not
>>>>>
>>>>> until 1838 that Emil Lenz clearly showed the importance of
>>>>>
>>>>> both Seebeck and Peltier s discoveries by placing a drop of
>>>>>
>>>>> water on the junction of dissimilar metals which froze then
>>>>>
>>>>> melted when the polarity of the direct current was
>>>>>
>>>>> reversed.These discoveries remained dormant for over 100
>>>>>
>>>>> years because of the unavailability of semiconductor
>>>>>
>>>>> materials which could provide the wide temperature
>>>>>
>>>>> differentials.In the 1930 s semiconductor materials became
>>>>>
>>>>> available which revived the electric cooling principles.In
>>>>>
>>>>> the 1960 s many companies began building spot cooling
>>>>>
>>>>> devices and refrigerators based on these effects using a
>>>>>
>>>>> junction material of bismuth-telluride. Today more advanced
>>>>>
>>>>> materials are used with the basic parameters of being a pore
>>>>>
>>>>> thermal conductor but being an excellent electrical
>>>>>
>>>>> conductor. The dissimilar materials must provide a high
>>>>>
>>>>> coefficient of voltage temperature relationship.The first
>>>>>
>>>>> Peltier devices that I experimented with back about 10 years
>>>>>
>>>>> ago were built by Marlow Industries here in Dallas.With a
>>>>>
>>>>> small temperature differential across the device a weak
>>>>>
>>>>> current with an attendant voltage was developed.Increasing
>>>>>
>>>>> the differential provided a proportional increase in current
>>>>>
>>>>> and voltage.About 6 years ago I posted a chart of the
>>>>>
>>>>> wattage generated from two different size Peltier chips on
>>>>>
>>>>> the KeelyNet BBS.My curiosity was based on the puzzle of
>>>>>
>>>>> how electron flow could move thermal energy across the
>>>>>
>>>>> junctions and how electrical energy was produced by moving
>>>>>
>>>>> thermal energy across the junction.This is a directly
>>>>>
>>>>> reversible situation based on polarity.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now let us look at a very familiar parallel process used in
>>>>>
>>>>> refrigeration, cooling and heating devices employing phase
>>>>>
>>>>> change material such as water and refrigerants.We have
>>>>>
>>>>> always been led to believe that evaporating water provided
>>>>>
>>>>> cooling effects which is a mechanical process. By the same
>>>>>
>>>>> mechanical process we are provided heating effects by the
>>>>>
>>>>> condensation of a gas back to a liquid phase change.Would
>>>>>
>>>>> you believe that any material that undergoes a phase change
>>>>>
>>>>> provides an attendant electrical effect.Back in 1840
>>>>>
>>>>> Armstrong invented an electrostatic generator based on
>>>>>
>>>>> escaping steam through insulated nozzles which provided one
>>>>>
>>>>> of the most powerful devices of this type ever built.
>>>>>
>>>>> Popular belief was that this was a frictional process with
>>>>>
>>>>> the electrical output resulting from the steam friction
>>>>>
>>>>> passing through the nozzles.After reading an old (1920 s)
>>>>>
>>>>> Thermodynamics in Chemistry text book I realized that the
>>>>>
>>>>> phase change of materials was an electrical phenomenon and
>>>>>
>>>>> not purely mechanical.The atoms of the material lose or
>>>>>
>>>>> gain electrons in the process which accounts for the
>>>>>
>>>>> discrepancy in the energy equation when a material
>>>>>
>>>>> transitions between phases.More energy is present after
>>>>>
>>>>> the phase change back to the lower form or atomic state. The
>>>>>
>>>>> text book stated that this phenomenon could not be
>>>>>
>>>>> explained.When Jerry and I attended a Conference hosted by
>>>>>
>>>>> Hal Puthoff down in Austin back about 6 years ago a
>>>>>
>>>>> physicist from Austria presented a paper on the phase change
>>>>>
>>>>> of water and the attendant electrical phenomenon which is
>>>>>
>>>>> totally not understood by modern science.Now my suspicions
>>>>>
>>>>> were confirmed that phase changes of materials are an
>>>>>
>>>>> electrostatic phenomenon, which leads us to the fundamental
>>>>>
>>>>> question of, What is heat?We were told in the school
>>>>>
>>>>> that heat is the presence of energy and cool is the absence
>>>>>
>>>>> of energy.What is the form of this energy?Let us look at
>>>>>
>>>>> a very simple example of heating which may explain this
>>>>>
>>>>> process.When sunlight strikes an absorbing surface it is
>>>>>
>>>>> heated because electrons in the material are converted to
>>>>>
>>>>> photons which are emitted in the infrared band of light
>>>>>
>>>>> leaving the material in a net positive state or hot.The
>>>>>
>>>>> more electrons a material looses the hotter it becomes.Now
>>>>>
>>>>> the inverse situation is explored by evaporating some water
>>>>>
>>>>> from the surface of a material which leaves the surface in a
>>>>>
>>>>> net negative state or cold.Heat or cold is based on the
>>>>>
>>>>> ion relationship in the material.When we apply a flame
>>>>>
>>>>> (ionizing) to a material we cause the emission of photons
>>>>>
>>>>> which is basically stripping away electrons from the atomic
>>>>>
>>>>> structure causing a gross net positive situation to occur.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now we are getting a picture as to how an electric current
>>>>>
>>>>> across the Peltier junction can transport thermal energy
>>>>>
>>>>> (ions).Since the energy is in the form of presence or
>>>>>
>>>>> absence of electrons then it is a simple explanation as to
>>>>>
>>>>> how the process works.All phase change processes work the
>>>>>
>>>>> same way basically via ion transport and are not mechanical
>>>>>
>>>>> processes which we were taught.Everything in chemistry is
>>>>>
>>>>> an electrical or electrostatic process at the atomic level
>>>>>
>>>>> based on the ionized state of the atoms involved.
>>>>>
>>>>> At a Vangard Science Round table discussion several years ago
>>>>>
>>>>> we talked about the ion wind method of fire fighting in
>>>>>
>>>>> which ionized air will extinguish a flame because of the
>>>>>
>>>>> cooling effects.Now we see Patents issued based on
>>>>>
>>>>> negative ion spraying of a surface causing it to rapidly
>>>>>
>>>>> cool because it becomes net negative charged.This is a
>>>>>
>>>>> very efficient method of air-conditioning because an ion
>>>>>
>>>>> generator operates at very high voltages with very little
>>>>>
>>>>> current involved.It is possible to develop this ion
>>>>>
>>>>> transport (thermal energy) to provide direct electrical
>>>>>
>>>>> output from very subtle temperature differentials.Remember
>>>>>
>>>>> that this is a direct reversible process where a thermal
>>>>>
>>>>> differential will cause a development of current and voltage
>>>>>
>>>>> as in the Peltier device.I hope that this dialog will
>>>>>
>>>>> provide some food for thought out there on the KeelyNet.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please provide some feedback on this very interesting line
>>>>>
>>>>> of experimentation.Norm
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12/30/2018 10:49 AM, Bob Paddock wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 9:42 AM Norman Wootan<[email protected]>  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As molten iron cools past its freezing point of 1538 °C, it crystallizes
>>>>>> Where would something like the Barkenhausen effect, fit into this
>>>>>> whole Iron thing?; See Volume-II of the Feynman Lecture on Physics.
>>>>>> Feynman demonstrates energy generation, at a small scale.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is also "CATER, Joseph: The Awesome Life Force ~ A 1980s classic
>>>>>> review of alternative sciences (PDF)",
>>>>>> based on a mixture of conventional and original ideas by Cater.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://rexresearch.com/pdf/CaterAwesomeLifeForce.pdf
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pg 126 "Nature of Magnetic Fields", pg 167 "Soft Electrons, Magnetic
>>>>>> fields", pg 204 "Transmission through materials"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> which lead us to pg 256 "THE SELF-SUSTAINING ELECTRIC GENERATOR",
>>>>>> based on Hubbard's Generator made of Iron shown later in the book.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We also have those that prefer to use metals that were forged
>>>>>> pre-atomic-blasts in some esoteric devices. ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ��My brain is only a receiver, in the Universe there is a core from which we obtain knowledge, strength and inspiration. I have not penetrated into the secrets of this core, but I know that it exists.”
>>>>>>> ― Nikola Tesla
>>>>>> Considered the Raikov Effect or Deep Trance Identification?
>>>>>>
>>>>

https://van.physics.illinois.edu/qa/listing.php?id=414

On 12/31/2018 7:03 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>
> When you set out to research a topic, You have to first define it.    
> Boy, the jury is still out, so to speak for the experts still do not 
> know the exact composition of magnetic fields or lines of force.  Just 
> just have to laugh. See
>
> Ohttps://van.physics.illinois.edu/qa/listing.php?id=414
>
> Ok, guys, what is your idea as to composition of magnetic flux??
>
>
> On 12/31/2018 5:45 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>
>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explosive-driven_ferromagnetic_generator 
>> Source doc. for "pressure-induced magnetic phase transition."
>>
>> On 12/31/2018 5:43 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>
>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directed-energy_weapon This document 
>>> is a pretty good review of the DEW technology so far.    My prime 
>>> interest is in the annihilation of magnetic flux which according to 
>>> the Wired article produces a stream of particles that can be focused 
>>> and channeled to a target. My question is, What are the particles 
>>> that composed the magnetic flux before destruction and do they 
>>> comply with the SUPER LIGHT theory.  Folks, this is whole new ball 
>>> game if we can create vast energy from directly destroying magnet 
>>> flux.   Kone, just blow up a few of your 1.5 Tesla one inch cube 
>>> magnets and have a direct generation of "pressure-induced magnetic 
>>> phase transition." electric output in KV @ KA.     BTW, this is one 
>>> for Ole to comment on.  Lol
>>>
>>> On 12/30/2018 1:51 PM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>
>>>> To add to the info on the Neo magnetic NNEMP weapon, take a look at 
>>>> this Army doc. https://www.wired.com/2009/03/army-turns-bomb/ In 
>>>> the old Flux compression Generators there was a need for HV 
>>>> capacitor bank and a long solenoid coil to provide the powerful 
>>>> magnetic flux field needed to be annihilated which yielded the EMP 
>>>> (Magneto-electric pulse).  It reasoned that the new family of Neo 
>>>> magnets held the necessary flux strength which negated the heavy 
>>>> capacitors and copper solenoid coil.  With a super fast explosive , 
>>>> Octanitrocubane  could destroy the Neo's in the nanosecond range 
>>>> needed for the EMP shot (magnetic flux converted into particle flux 
>>>> which is the constituents of the magnetic field)
>>>>
>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octanitrocubane
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 12/30/2018 11:42 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Remember that my main line of research is the Magnetic flux 
>>>>> annihilation-Reconnect EMP phenomenon.  Here is a first step into 
>>>>> learning more about the Magnetoelectric effect.  Just build 
>>>>> sensors. See attachment.   Now that you have a sensor lets look at 
>>>>> the Magnetoelectric (EMP output when you destroy a very powerful 
>>>>> neo magnet via rapid explosives.  Remember that energy cannot be 
>>>>> destroyed but can convert into another form of energy we call the 
>>>>> Magnetoelectric EMP.  See 
>>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explosive-driven_ferromagnetic_generator 
>>>>> This is a direct conversion of powerful magnetic flux field 
>>>>> directly into very high power electrical output.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12/30/2018 11:29 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tesla's Pyro generator to which I referred which took advantage 
>>>>>> of iron phase shift.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/patents/us-patent-428057-pyromagneto-electric-generator
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Somewhere here we have to jump back and address IONS both positive and negative.  See my 1996 paper for KeelyNet titled WHAT is Heat which dealt with ionization and its potential.  The loss or gain of electrons in the atomic lattice causes the precise predictability of the various phase change points.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is the Bad Boy that I wanted to build using nitrogen gas and an alpha emitter electrodes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What is Heat #2
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For about 10 years I have been studying the effects of
>>>>>>
>>>>>> heating and cooling associated with the phase change of
>>>>>>
>>>>>> liquids with the hope of building a simple generator of
>>>>>>
>>>>>> electrical power around the phenomenon.The reason for this
>>>>>>
>>>>>> interest is based on the theory that energy can be extracted
>>>>>>
>>>>>> from the ambient background via thermal differentials.My
>>>>>>
>>>>>> line of thinking really took off back when I experimented
>>>>>>
>>>>>> with the all too familiar Peltier junction devices found in
>>>>>>
>>>>>> electronic cooling devices.Would you believe that most
>>>>>>
>>>>>> people do not understand how these devices move thermal
>>>>>>
>>>>>> energy through a current flow across a semiconductor
>>>>>>
>>>>>> junction.Historically we find that German physicist,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thomas Seebeck back in 1820 observed that when heat was
>>>>>>
>>>>>> applied to a junction of copper and steel wire that
>>>>>>
>>>>>> electrical energy resulted.Later in 1834 Jean Peltier
>>>>>>
>>>>>> discovered that when a direct current was applied to two
>>>>>>
>>>>>> dissimilar metals the junction got hot or cold.It was not
>>>>>>
>>>>>> until 1838 that Emil Lenz clearly showed the importance of
>>>>>>
>>>>>> both Seebeck and Peltier s discoveries by placing a drop of
>>>>>>
>>>>>> water on the junction of dissimilar metals which froze then
>>>>>>
>>>>>> melted when the polarity of the direct current was
>>>>>>
>>>>>> reversed.These discoveries remained dormant for over 100
>>>>>>
>>>>>> years because of the unavailability of semiconductor
>>>>>>
>>>>>> materials which could provide the wide temperature
>>>>>>
>>>>>> differentials.In the 1930 s semiconductor materials became
>>>>>>
>>>>>> available which revived the electric cooling principles.In
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the 1960 s many companies began building spot cooling
>>>>>>
>>>>>> devices and refrigerators based on these effects using a
>>>>>>
>>>>>> junction material of bismuth-telluride. Today more advanced
>>>>>>
>>>>>> materials are used with the basic parameters of being a pore
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thermal conductor but being an excellent electrical
>>>>>>
>>>>>> conductor. The dissimilar materials must provide a high
>>>>>>
>>>>>> coefficient of voltage temperature relationship.The first
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Peltier devices that I experimented with back about 10 years
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ago were built by Marlow Industries here in Dallas.With a
>>>>>>
>>>>>> small temperature differential across the device a weak
>>>>>>
>>>>>> current with an attendant voltage was developed.Increasing
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the differential provided a proportional increase in current
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and voltage.About 6 years ago I posted a chart of the
>>>>>>
>>>>>> wattage generated from two different size Peltier chips on
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the KeelyNet BBS.My curiosity was based on the puzzle of
>>>>>>
>>>>>> how electron flow could move thermal energy across the
>>>>>>
>>>>>> junctions and how electrical energy was produced by moving
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thermal energy across the junction.This is a directly
>>>>>>
>>>>>> reversible situation based on polarity.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now let us look at a very familiar parallel process used in
>>>>>>
>>>>>> refrigeration, cooling and heating devices employing phase
>>>>>>
>>>>>> change material such as water and refrigerants.We have
>>>>>>
>>>>>> always been led to believe that evaporating water provided
>>>>>>
>>>>>> cooling effects which is a mechanical process. By the same
>>>>>>
>>>>>> mechanical process we are provided heating effects by the
>>>>>>
>>>>>> condensation of a gas back to a liquid phase change.Would
>>>>>>
>>>>>> you believe that any material that undergoes a phase change
>>>>>>
>>>>>> provides an attendant electrical effect.Back in 1840
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Armstrong invented an electrostatic generator based on
>>>>>>
>>>>>> escaping steam through insulated nozzles which provided one
>>>>>>
>>>>>> of the most powerful devices of this type ever built.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Popular belief was that this was a frictional process with
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the electrical output resulting from the steam friction
>>>>>>
>>>>>> passing through the nozzles.After reading an old (1920 s)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thermodynamics in Chemistry text book I realized that the
>>>>>>
>>>>>> phase change of materials was an electrical phenomenon and
>>>>>>
>>>>>> not purely mechanical.The atoms of the material lose or
>>>>>>
>>>>>> gain electrons in the process which accounts for the
>>>>>>
>>>>>> discrepancy in the energy equation when a material
>>>>>>
>>>>>> transitions between phases.More energy is present after
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the phase change back to the lower form or atomic state. The
>>>>>>
>>>>>> text book stated that this phenomenon could not be
>>>>>>
>>>>>> explained.When Jerry and I attended a Conference hosted by
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hal Puthoff down in Austin back about 6 years ago a
>>>>>>
>>>>>> physicist from Austria presented a paper on the phase change
>>>>>>
>>>>>> of water and the attendant electrical phenomenon which is
>>>>>>
>>>>>> totally not understood by modern science.Now my suspicions
>>>>>>
>>>>>> were confirmed that phase changes of materials are an
>>>>>>
>>>>>> electrostatic phenomenon, which leads us to the fundamental
>>>>>>
>>>>>> question of, What is heat?We were told in the school
>>>>>>
>>>>>> that heat is the presence of energy and cool is the absence
>>>>>>
>>>>>> of energy.What is the form of this energy?Let us look at
>>>>>>
>>>>>> a very simple example of heating which may explain this
>>>>>>
>>>>>> process.When sunlight strikes an absorbing surface it is
>>>>>>
>>>>>> heated because electrons in the material are converted to
>>>>>>
>>>>>> photons which are emitted in the infrared band of light
>>>>>>
>>>>>> leaving the material in a net positive state or hot.The
>>>>>>
>>>>>> more electrons a material looses the hotter it becomes.Now
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the inverse situation is explored by evaporating some water
>>>>>>
>>>>>> from the surface of a material which leaves the surface in a
>>>>>>
>>>>>> net negative state or cold.Heat or cold is based on the
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ion relationship in the material.When we apply a flame
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (ionizing) to a material we cause the emission of photons
>>>>>>
>>>>>> which is basically stripping away electrons from the atomic
>>>>>>
>>>>>> structure causing a gross net positive situation to occur.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now we are getting a picture as to how an electric current
>>>>>>
>>>>>> across the Peltier junction can transport thermal energy
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (ions).Since the energy is in the form of presence or
>>>>>>
>>>>>> absence of electrons then it is a simple explanation as to
>>>>>>
>>>>>> how the process works.All phase change processes work the
>>>>>>
>>>>>> same way basically via ion transport and are not mechanical
>>>>>>
>>>>>> processes which we were taught.Everything in chemistry is
>>>>>>
>>>>>> an electrical or electrostatic process at the atomic level
>>>>>>
>>>>>> based on the ionized state of the atoms involved.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At a Vangard Science Round table discussion several years ago
>>>>>>
>>>>>> we talked about the ion wind method of fire fighting in
>>>>>>
>>>>>> which ionized air will extinguish a flame because of the
>>>>>>
>>>>>> cooling effects.Now we see Patents issued based on
>>>>>>
>>>>>> negative ion spraying of a surface causing it to rapidly
>>>>>>
>>>>>> cool because it becomes net negative charged.This is a
>>>>>>
>>>>>> very efficient method of air-conditioning because an ion
>>>>>>
>>>>>> generator operates at very high voltages with very little
>>>>>>
>>>>>> current involved.It is possible to develop this ion
>>>>>>
>>>>>> transport (thermal energy) to provide direct electrical
>>>>>>
>>>>>> output from very subtle temperature differentials.Remember
>>>>>>
>>>>>> that this is a direct reversible process where a thermal
>>>>>>
>>>>>> differential will cause a development of current and voltage
>>>>>>
>>>>>> as in the Peltier device.I hope that this dialog will
>>>>>>
>>>>>> provide some food for thought out there on the KeelyNet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please provide some feedback on this very interesting line
>>>>>>
>>>>>> of experimentation.Norm
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12/30/2018 10:49 AM, Bob Paddock wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 9:42 AM Norman Wootan<[email protected]>  wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As molten iron cools past its freezing point of 1538 °C, it crystallizes
>>>>>>> Where would something like the Barkenhausen effect, fit into this
>>>>>>> whole Iron thing?; See Volume-II of the Feynman Lecture on Physics.
>>>>>>> Feynman demonstrates energy generation, at a small scale.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is also "CATER, Joseph: The Awesome Life Force ~ A 1980s classic
>>>>>>> review of alternative sciences (PDF)",
>>>>>>> based on a mixture of conventional and original ideas by Cater.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://rexresearch.com/pdf/CaterAwesomeLifeForce.pdf
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Pg 126 "Nature of Magnetic Fields", pg 167 "Soft Electrons, Magnetic
>>>>>>> fields", pg 204 "Transmission through materials"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> which lead us to pg 256 "THE SELF-SUSTAINING ELECTRIC GENERATOR",
>>>>>>> based on Hubbard's Generator made of Iron shown later in the book.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We also have those that prefer to use metals that were forged
>>>>>>> pre-atomic-blasts in some esoteric devices. ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ��My brain is only a receiver, in the Universe there is a core from which we obtain knowledge, strength and inspiration. I have not penetrated into the secrets of this core, but I know that it exists.”
>>>>>>>> ― Nikola Tesla
>>>>>>> Considered the Raikov Effect or Deep Trance Identification?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>

https://www.phys.ksu.edu/personal/wysin/notes/quantumEM.pdf

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_harmonic_oscillator

This SHIT just keeps getting deeper.  I have to agree with Tesla.

“Today’s scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and 
they wander off through equation after equation, and eventually build a 
structure which has no relation to reality. ”
― Nikola Tesla

On 12/31/2018 7:04 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>
> https://van.physics.illinois.edu/qa/listing.php?id=414
>
> On 12/31/2018 7:03 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>
>> When you set out to research a topic, You have to first define it.    
>> Boy, the jury is still out, so to speak for the experts still do not 
>> know the exact composition of magnetic fields or lines of force.  
>> Just just have to laugh. See
>>
>> Ohttps://van.physics.illinois.edu/qa/listing.php?id=414
>>
>> Ok, guys, what is your idea as to composition of magnetic flux??
>>
>>
>> On 12/31/2018 5:45 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>
>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explosive-driven_ferromagnetic_generator 
>>> Source doc. for "pressure-induced magnetic phase transition."
>>>
>>> On 12/31/2018 5:43 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>
>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directed-energy_weapon This 
>>>> document is a pretty good review of the DEW technology so far.    
>>>> My prime interest is in the annihilation of magnetic flux which 
>>>> according to the Wired article produces a stream of particles that 
>>>> can be focused and channeled to a target. My question is, What are 
>>>> the particles that composed the magnetic flux before destruction 
>>>> and do they comply with the SUPER LIGHT theory.  Folks, this is 
>>>> whole new ball game if we can create vast energy from directly 
>>>> destroying magnet flux. Kone, just blow up a few of your 1.5 Tesla 
>>>> one inch cube magnets and have a direct generation of 
>>>> "pressure-induced magnetic phase transition." electric output in KV 
>>>> @ KA.   BTW, this is one for Ole to comment on.  Lol
>>>>
>>>> On 12/30/2018 1:51 PM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> To add to the info on the Neo magnetic NNEMP weapon, take a look 
>>>>> at this Army doc. https://www.wired.com/2009/03/army-turns-bomb/ 
>>>>> In the old Flux compression Generators there was a need for HV 
>>>>> capacitor bank and a long solenoid coil to provide the powerful 
>>>>> magnetic flux field needed to be annihilated which yielded the EMP 
>>>>> (Magneto-electric pulse).  It  reasoned that the new family of Neo 
>>>>> magnets held the necessary flux strength which negated the heavy 
>>>>> capacitors and copper solenoid coil.  With a super fast explosive 
>>>>> , Octanitrocubane  could destroy the Neo's in the nanosecond range 
>>>>> needed for the EMP shot (magnetic flux converted into particle 
>>>>> flux which is the constituents of the magnetic field)
>>>>>
>>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octanitrocubane
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12/30/2018 11:42 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Remember that my main line of research is the Magnetic flux 
>>>>>> annihilation-Reconnect EMP phenomenon.  Here is a first step into 
>>>>>> learning more about the Magnetoelectric effect.  Just build 
>>>>>> sensors. See attachment.   Now that you have a sensor lets look 
>>>>>> at the Magnetoelectric (EMP output when you destroy a very 
>>>>>> powerful neo magnet via rapid explosives.  Remember that energy 
>>>>>> cannot be destroyed but can convert into another form of energy 
>>>>>> we call the Magnetoelectric EMP.  See 
>>>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explosive-driven_ferromagnetic_generator 
>>>>>> This is a direct conversion of powerful magnetic flux field 
>>>>>> directly into very high power electrical output.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12/30/2018 11:29 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tesla's Pyro generator to which I referred which took advantage 
>>>>>>> of iron phase shift.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/patents/us-patent-428057-pyromagneto-electric-generator
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Somewhere here we have to jump back and address IONS both positive and negative.  See my 1996 paper for KeelyNet titled WHAT is Heat which dealt with ionization and its potential.  The loss or gain of electrons in the atomic lattice causes the precise predictability of the various phase change points.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is the Bad Boy that I wanted to build using nitrogen gas and an alpha emitter electrodes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What is Heat #2
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For about 10 years I have been studying the effects of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> heating and cooling associated with the phase change of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> liquids with the hope of building a simple generator of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> electrical power around the phenomenon.The reason for this
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> interest is based on the theory that energy can be extracted
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> from the ambient background via thermal differentials.My
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> line of thinking really took off back when I experimented
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> with the all too familiar Peltier junction devices found in
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> electronic cooling devices.Would you believe that most
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> people do not understand how these devices move thermal
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> energy through a current flow across a semiconductor
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> junction.Historically we find that German physicist,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thomas Seebeck back in 1820 observed that when heat was
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> applied to a junction of copper and steel wire that
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> electrical energy resulted.Later in 1834 Jean Peltier
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> discovered that when a direct current was applied to two
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> dissimilar metals the junction got hot or cold.It was not
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> until 1838 that Emil Lenz clearly showed the importance of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> both Seebeck and Peltier s discoveries by placing a drop of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> water on the junction of dissimilar metals which froze then
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> melted when the polarity of the direct current was
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> reversed.These discoveries remained dormant for over 100
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> years because of the unavailability of semiconductor
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> materials which could provide the wide temperature
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> differentials.In the 1930 s semiconductor materials became
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> available which revived the electric cooling principles.In
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the 1960 s many companies began building spot cooling
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> devices and refrigerators based on these effects using a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> junction material of bismuth-telluride. Today more advanced
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> materials are used with the basic parameters of being a pore
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> thermal conductor but being an excellent electrical
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> conductor. The dissimilar materials must provide a high
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> coefficient of voltage temperature relationship.The first
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Peltier devices that I experimented with back about 10 years
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ago were built by Marlow Industries here in Dallas.With a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> small temperature differential across the device a weak
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> current with an attendant voltage was developed.Increasing
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the differential provided a proportional increase in current
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and voltage.About 6 years ago I posted a chart of the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> wattage generated from two different size Peltier chips on
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the KeelyNet BBS.My curiosity was based on the puzzle of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> how electron flow could move thermal energy across the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> junctions and how electrical energy was produced by moving
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> thermal energy across the junction.This is a directly
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> reversible situation based on polarity.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now let us look at a very familiar parallel process used in
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> refrigeration, cooling and heating devices employing phase
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> change material such as water and refrigerants.We have
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> always been led to believe that evaporating water provided
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> cooling effects which is a mechanical process. By the same
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> mechanical process we are provided heating effects by the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> condensation of a gas back to a liquid phase change.Would
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> you believe that any material that undergoes a phase change
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> provides an attendant electrical effect.Back in 1840
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Armstrong invented an electrostatic generator based on
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> escaping steam through insulated nozzles which provided one
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> of the most powerful devices of this type ever built.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Popular belief was that this was a frictional process with
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the electrical output resulting from the steam friction
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> passing through the nozzles.After reading an old (1920 s)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thermodynamics in Chemistry text book I realized that the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> phase change of materials was an electrical phenomenon and
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> not purely mechanical.The atoms of the material lose or
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> gain electrons in the process which accounts for the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> discrepancy in the energy equation when a material
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> transitions between phases.More energy is present after
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the phase change back to the lower form or atomic state. The
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> text book stated that this phenomenon could not be
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> explained.When Jerry and I attended a Conference hosted by
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hal Puthoff down in Austin back about 6 years ago a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> physicist from Austria presented a paper on the phase change
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> of water and the attendant electrical phenomenon which is
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> totally not understood by modern science.Now my suspicions
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> were confirmed that phase changes of materials are an
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> electrostatic phenomenon, which leads us to the fundamental
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> question of, What is heat?We were told in the school
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> that heat is the presence of energy and cool is the absence
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> of energy.What is the form of this energy?Let us look at
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> a very simple example of heating which may explain this
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> process.When sunlight strikes an absorbing surface it is
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> heated because electrons in the material are converted to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> photons which are emitted in the infrared band of light
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> leaving the material in a net positive state or hot.The
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> more electrons a material looses the hotter it becomes.Now
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the inverse situation is explored by evaporating some water
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> from the surface of a material which leaves the surface in a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> net negative state or cold.Heat or cold is based on the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ion relationship in the material.When we apply a flame
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (ionizing) to a material we cause the emission of photons
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> which is basically stripping away electrons from the atomic
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> structure causing a gross net positive situation to occur.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now we are getting a picture as to how an electric current
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> across the Peltier junction can transport thermal energy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (ions).Since the energy is in the form of presence or
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> absence of electrons then it is a simple explanation as to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> how the process works.All phase change processes work the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> same way basically via ion transport and are not mechanical
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> processes which we were taught.Everything in chemistry is
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> an electrical or electrostatic process at the atomic level
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> based on the ionized state of the atoms involved.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At a Vangard Science Round table discussion several years ago
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> we talked about the ion wind method of fire fighting in
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> which ionized air will extinguish a flame because of the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> cooling effects.Now we see Patents issued based on
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> negative ion spraying of a surface causing it to rapidly
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> cool because it becomes net negative charged.This is a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> very efficient method of air-conditioning because an ion
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> generator operates at very high voltages with very little
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> current involved.It is possible to develop this ion
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> transport (thermal energy) to provide direct electrical
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> output from very subtle temperature differentials.Remember
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> that this is a direct reversible process where a thermal
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> differential will cause a development of current and voltage
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> as in the Peltier device.I hope that this dialog will
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> provide some food for thought out there on the KeelyNet.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please provide some feedback on this very interesting line
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> of experimentation.Norm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 12/30/2018 10:49 AM, Bob Paddock wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 9:42 AM Norman Wootan<[email protected]>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As molten iron cools past its freezing point of 1538 °C, it crystallizes
>>>>>>>> Where would something like the Barkenhausen effect, fit into this
>>>>>>>> whole Iron thing?; See Volume-II of the Feynman Lecture on Physics.
>>>>>>>> Feynman demonstrates energy generation, at a small scale.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There is also "CATER, Joseph: The Awesome Life Force ~ A 1980s classic
>>>>>>>> review of alternative sciences (PDF)",
>>>>>>>> based on a mixture of conventional and original ideas by Cater.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://rexresearch.com/pdf/CaterAwesomeLifeForce.pdf
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Pg 126 "Nature of Magnetic Fields", pg 167 "Soft Electrons, Magnetic
>>>>>>>> fields", pg 204 "Transmission through materials"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> which lead us to pg 256 "THE SELF-SUSTAINING ELECTRIC GENERATOR",
>>>>>>>> based on Hubbard's Generator made of Iron shown later in the book.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We also have those that prefer to use metals that were forged
>>>>>>>> pre-atomic-blasts in some esoteric devices. ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ��My brain is only a receiver, in the Universe there is a core from which we obtain knowledge, strength and inspiration. I have not penetrated into the secrets of this core, but I know that it exists.”
>>>>>>>>> ― Nikola Tesla
>>>>>>>> Considered the Raikov Effect or Deep Trance Identification?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>

Norm,

You bought all the parts then but never got the unit together to light
it up just one time?   I am not sure how you undertook so many things to
such a degree while having a real job and supporting a family.

Tesla was superhuman also in the amount of stuff he had going, but there
is little info on his life and experiments after about 1910.  Have you
found more info on his later life or inventions?  He supposedly lived in
some castle for awhile working on remote control stuff but little on
this, then later on allegedly just a crazy old man feeding the birds
with an occasional birthday announcement.  I can't fathom a mind like
that with access to vacuum tubes becoming totally idle.

Any info you can point to in reference to Teslas later life I would love
to find out.

Do you know anything about Arthur Mathews if he ever really worked with
Tesla if any of his claims have validity?

On 12/31/2018 6:21 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> https://www.ewm-group.com/en/specialised-knowledge/colour-codes-for-tungsten-electrodes.html 
> Mick, I had already bought the WT-20 Red 2% tungsten rods and a
> Russian RADIAC to monitor the alpha particle radiation. The square
> magnetic channel is typical MHD technology with the pickup plates for
> the 90 degree DC + and - distribution made of silver in my device.  I
> had a bank of large storage caps, 3.5 MFD @ 60KV for the HVDC output. 
> I was salvaging out the large Pressure Swing Absorption (PSA) units
> used by the Western Electric (Bell Telephone) switching centers to
> Nitrogen dry their cables. These units produced good nitrogen from
> compressed air and desiccant dried it.   Another one of my research
> endeavors that got side tracked when the GAZPROM contract materialized
> in 2005, IVR, (Implosion Vortex Reactor) to produce Hydrogen.  My lab
> was just too busy a place in addition to me having to still work for a
> living. No time to play!   Like you, I was always fascinated by the
> Tesla Manifesto and just by accident acquired the plans for the Tesla
> Nitrogen burning device.  Now we know what it is all about.  I still
> have not figured out what the by-product would be from the nitrogen
> burning other than a darn good soil fertilizer to which Tesla alluded
> to in his writings. Tesla understood the Nitrogen Fixation by
> Lightning which occurs in nature.  Plants love it. 
>
> On 12/30/2018 8:41 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>  
>>
>> Norm,
>>
>> A trip to the welding store and some tig high thorium rods and what
>> would you think is a good housing material, barium titanate, mica? 
>> and would you use that black body coating on the pickup plates
>> surfaces the underneath being a cation and anion doped conductor such
>> as phosphate copper and nickel aluminum?  Maybe some length to assist
>> in the convection?  How much lead around this in case it throws
>> neutrons or gamma?
>>
>> Could be the design calls for the conductors parallel and insulators
>> opposite to create the square profile rather than a single material. 
>> The field coil might work better with the pole pieces behind the
>> pickup plates or 45 degrees rather than 90 degrees, right hand
>> rule... hmm...   Bench testing required.
>>
>>
>> On 12/30/2018 12:29 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>  
>>>
>>> Tesla's Pyro generator to which I referred which took advantage of
>>> iron phase shift.
>>>
>>> https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/patents/us-patent-428057-pyromagneto-electric-generator
>>>
>>> Somewhere here we have to jump back and address IONS both positive and negative.  See my 1996 paper for KeelyNet titled WHAT is Heat which dealt with ionization and its potential.  The loss or gain of electrons in the atomic lattice causes the precise predictability of the various phase change points.
>>>
>>> This is the Bad Boy that I wanted to build using nitrogen gas and an alpha emitter electrodes. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                      What is Heat #2
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> For about 10 years I have been studying the effects of
>>>
>>> heating and cooling associated with the phase change of
>>>
>>> liquids with the hope of building a simple generator of
>>>
>>> electrical power around the phenomenon.  The reason for this
>>>
>>> interest is based on the theory that energy can be extracted
>>>
>>> from the ambient background via thermal differentials.  My
>>>
>>> line of thinking really took off back when I experimented
>>>
>>> with the all too familiar Peltier junction devices found in
>>>
>>> electronic cooling devices.  Would you believe that most
>>>
>>> people do not understand how these devices move thermal
>>>
>>> energy through a current flow across a semiconductor
>>>
>>> junction.  Historically we find that German physicist,
>>>
>>> Thomas Seebeck back in 1820 observed that when heat was
>>>
>>> applied to a junction of copper and steel wire that
>>>
>>> electrical energy resulted.  Later in 1834 Jean Peltier
>>>
>>> discovered that when a direct current was applied to two
>>>
>>> dissimilar metals the junction got hot or cold.  It was not
>>>
>>> until 1838 that Emil Lenz clearly showed the importance of
>>>
>>> both Seebeck and Peltier s discoveries by placing a drop of
>>>
>>> water on the junction of dissimilar metals which froze then
>>>
>>> melted when the polarity of the direct current was
>>>
>>> reversed.  These discoveries remained dormant for over 100
>>>
>>> years because of the unavailability of semiconductor
>>>
>>> materials which could provide the wide temperature
>>>
>>> differentials.  In the 1930 s semiconductor materials became
>>>
>>> available which revived the electric cooling principles.  In
>>>
>>> the 1960 s many companies began building spot cooling
>>>
>>> devices and refrigerators based on these effects using a
>>>
>>> junction material of bismuth-telluride. Today more advanced
>>>
>>> materials are used with the basic parameters of being a pore
>>>
>>> thermal conductor but being an excellent electrical
>>>
>>> conductor. The dissimilar materials must provide a high
>>>
>>> coefficient of voltage temperature relationship.  The first
>>>
>>> Peltier devices that I experimented with back about 10 years
>>>
>>> ago were built by Marlow Industries here in Dallas.   With a
>>>
>>> small temperature differential across the device a weak
>>>
>>> current with an attendant voltage was developed.  Increasing
>>>
>>> the differential provided a proportional increase in current
>>>
>>> and voltage.  About 6 years ago I posted a chart of the
>>>
>>> wattage generated from two different size Peltier chips on
>>>
>>> the KeelyNet BBS.   My curiosity was based on the puzzle of
>>>
>>> how electron flow could move thermal energy across the
>>>
>>> junctions and how electrical energy was produced by moving
>>>
>>> thermal energy across the junction.  This is a directly
>>>
>>> reversible situation based on polarity.
>>>
>>> Now let us look at a very familiar parallel process used in
>>>
>>> refrigeration, cooling and heating devices employing phase
>>>
>>> change material such as water and refrigerants.  We have
>>>
>>> always been led to believe that evaporating water provided
>>>
>>> cooling effects which is a mechanical process. By the same
>>>
>>> mechanical process we are provided heating effects by the
>>>
>>> condensation of a gas back to a liquid phase change.  Would
>>>
>>> you believe that any material that undergoes a phase change
>>>
>>> provides an attendant electrical effect.   Back in 1840
>>>
>>> Armstrong invented an electrostatic generator based on
>>>
>>> escaping steam through insulated nozzles which provided one
>>>
>>> of the most powerful devices of this type ever built.
>>>
>>> Popular belief was that this was a frictional process with
>>>
>>> the electrical output resulting from the steam friction
>>>
>>> passing through the nozzles.   After reading an old (1920 s)
>>>
>>> Thermodynamics in Chemistry text book I realized that the
>>>
>>> phase change of materials was an electrical phenomenon and
>>>
>>> not purely mechanical.  The atoms of the material lose or
>>>
>>> gain electrons in the process which accounts for the
>>>
>>> discrepancy in the energy equation when a material
>>>
>>> transitions between phases.  More energy is present after
>>>
>>> the phase change back to the lower form or atomic state. The
>>>
>>> text book stated that this phenomenon could not be
>>>
>>> explained.  When Jerry and I attended a Conference hosted by
>>>
>>> Hal Puthoff down in Austin back about 6 years ago a
>>>
>>> physicist from Austria presented a paper on the phase change
>>>
>>> of water and the attendant electrical phenomenon which is
>>>
>>> totally not understood by modern science.  Now my suspicions
>>>
>>> were confirmed that phase changes of materials are an
>>>
>>> electrostatic phenomenon, which leads us to the fundamental
>>>
>>> question of, What is heat?    We were told in the school
>>>
>>> that heat is the presence of energy and cool is the absence
>>>
>>> of energy.  What is the form of this energy?  Let us look at
>>>
>>> a very simple example of heating which may explain this
>>>
>>> process.  When sunlight strikes an absorbing surface it is
>>>
>>> heated because electrons in the material are converted to
>>>
>>> photons which are emitted in the infrared band of light
>>>
>>> leaving the material in a net positive state or hot.  The
>>>
>>> more electrons a material looses the hotter it becomes.  Now
>>>
>>> the inverse situation is explored by evaporating some water
>>>
>>> from the surface of a material which leaves the surface in a
>>>
>>> net negative state or cold.  Heat or cold is based on the
>>>
>>> ion relationship in the material.  When we apply a flame
>>>
>>> (ionizing) to a material we cause the emission of photons
>>>
>>> which is basically stripping away electrons from the atomic
>>>
>>> structure causing a gross net positive situation to occur.
>>>
>>> Now we are getting a picture as to how an electric current
>>>
>>> across the Peltier junction can transport thermal energy
>>>
>>> (ions).  Since the energy is in the form of presence or
>>>
>>> absence of electrons then it is a simple explanation as to
>>>
>>> how the process works.  All phase change processes work the
>>>
>>> same way basically via ion transport and are not mechanical
>>>
>>> processes which we were taught.  Everything in chemistry is
>>>
>>> an electrical or electrostatic process at the atomic level
>>>
>>> based on the ionized state of the atoms involved.
>>>
>>> At a Vangard Science Round table discussion several years ago
>>>
>>> we talked about the ion wind method of fire fighting in
>>>
>>> which ionized air will extinguish a flame because of the
>>>
>>> cooling effects.  Now we see Patents issued based on
>>>
>>> negative ion spraying of a surface causing it to rapidly
>>>
>>> cool because it becomes net negative charged.  This is a
>>>
>>> very efficient method of air-conditioning because an ion
>>>
>>> generator operates at very high voltages with very little
>>>
>>> current involved.   It is possible to develop this ion
>>>
>>> transport (thermal energy) to provide direct electrical
>>>
>>> output from very subtle temperature differentials.  Remember
>>>
>>> that this is a direct reversible process where a thermal
>>>
>>> differential will cause a development of current and voltage
>>>
>>> as in the Peltier device.   I hope that this dialog will
>>>
>>> provide some food for thought out there on the KeelyNet.
>>>
>>> Please provide some feedback on this very interesting line
>>>
>>> of experimentation.   Norm
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/30/2018 10:49 AM, Bob Paddock wrote:
>>>> On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 9:42 AM Norman Wootan <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> As molten iron cools past its freezing point of 1538 °C, it crystallizes
>>>> Where would something like the Barkenhausen effect, fit into this
>>>> whole Iron thing?; See Volume-II of the Feynman Lecture on Physics.
>>>> Feynman demonstrates energy generation, at a small scale.
>>>>
>>>> There is also "CATER, Joseph: The Awesome Life Force ~ A 1980s classic
>>>> review of alternative sciences (PDF)",
>>>> based on a mixture of conventional and original ideas by Cater.
>>>>
>>>> http://rexresearch.com/pdf/CaterAwesomeLifeForce.pdf
>>>>
>>>> Pg 126 "Nature of Magnetic Fields", pg 167 "Soft Electrons, Magnetic
>>>> fields", pg 204 "Transmission through materials"
>>>>
>>>> which lead us to pg 256 "THE SELF-SUSTAINING ELECTRIC GENERATOR",
>>>> based on Hubbard's Generator made of Iron shown later in the book.
>>>>
>>>> We also have those that prefer to use metals that were forged
>>>> pre-atomic-blasts in some esoteric devices. ?
>>>>
>>>>> “My brain is only a receiver, in the Universe there is a core from which we obtain knowledge, strength and inspiration. I have not penetrated into the secrets of this core, but I know that it exists.”
>>>>> ― Nikola Tesla
>>>> Considered the Raikov Effect or Deep Trance Identification?
>>>>
>

Hi Norman,

I don't think all this new technology should be used for weapons. A better way of using it would be for making our lives better by setting us free.

Magnetic field lines are some late middle age construct and mathematical description of fields. I consider magnetic fields more like some ultra-waves that are all penetrating. These are the waves making up physical matter like in the Rhythmodynamics theory or the theory of W.B. Smith. This way all forces of nature can be unified into the same fundamental fields. When looking at the interference patterns of the waves it may look like lines but they're actually still waves. Thus annihilating magnetic flux lines are actually just changing the interference patterns of the waves.

Source of image: http://psychedelic-information-theory.com/interference-pattern http://psychedelic-information-theory.com/interference-pattern.

What looks like field lines are interference of waves from only two plane wave transmitters. Here is an animated gif of a similar pattern:
 https://media.giphy.com/media/3VnrF8u62XQpq/giphy.gif https://media.giphy.com/media/3VnrF8u62XQpq/giphy.gif
Different combination of waves can make up the different elementary particles starting from the electron and positron over quarks (bunches of three electrons) to more complex elementary particles.

The theories behind this are what were known as ether theories requiring some media for transference of the waves or forces. According to transmission line theory (e.g. the theory of Ivor Catt) even the vacuum of space has physical properties like the permittivity and permeability of vacuum indicating that there is something there instead of emptiness. This is shown by what Forrest Bishop terms the forbidden equations. 'The Forbidden Equation: i = qc': https://wiki.naturalphilosophy.org/index.php?title=The_Forbidden_Equation:_i_%3D_qc https://wiki.naturalphilosophy.org/index.php?title=The_Forbidden_Equation:_i_%3D_qc

Reforming Electromagnetic Units, Equations, and Concepts: An Extension of Ivor Catt Theory:
https://wiki.naturalphilosophy.org/index.php?title=Reforming_Electromagnetic_Units,_Equations,_and_Concepts:_An_Extension_of_Ivor_Catt_Theory https://wiki.naturalphilosophy.org/index.php?title=Reforming_Electromagnetic_Units,_Equations,_and_Concepts:_An_Extension_of_Ivor_Catt_Theory

Regards
Ole



---In [email protected], <nwootan@...> wrote :

 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directed-energy_weapon https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directed-energy_weapon  This document is a pretty good review of the DEW technology so far.    My prime interest is in the annihilation of magnetic flux which according to the Wired article produces a stream of particles that can be focused and channeled to a target. My question is, What are the particles that composed the magnetic flux before destruction and do they comply with the SUPER LIGHT theory.  Folks, this is whole new ball game if we can create vast energy from directly destroying magnet flux.   Kone, just blow up a few of your 1.5 Tesla one inch cube magnets and have a direct generation of "pressure-induced magnetic phase transition." electric output in KV @ KA.     BTW, this is one for Ole to comment on.  Lol 
 On 12/30/2018 1:51 PM, Norman Wootan wrote:
 
 To add to the info on the Neo magnetic NNEMP weapon, take a look at this Army doc.  https://www.wired.com/2009/03/army-turns-bomb/ https://www.wired.com/2009/03/army-turns-bomb/    In the old Flux compression Generators there was a need for HV capacitor bank and a long solenoid coil to provide the powerful magnetic flux field needed to be annihilated which yielded the EMP (Magneto-electric pulse).  It  reasoned that the new family of Neo magnets held the necessary flux strength which negated the heavy capacitors and copper solenoid coil.  With a super fast explosive , Octanitrocubane  could destroy the Neo's in the nanosecond range needed for the EMP shot (magnetic flux converted into particle flux which is the constituents of the magnetic field)
 
 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octanitrocubane https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octanitrocubane 
 
 
 
 On 12/30/2018 11:42 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... mailto:nwootan@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
 
   
 Remember that my main line of research is the Magnetic flux annihilation-Reconnect EMP phenomenon.  Here is a first step into learning more about the Magnetoelectric effect.  Just build sensors. See attachment.   Now that you have a sensor lets look at the Magnetoelectric (EMP output when you destroy a very powerful neo magnet via rapid explosives.  Remember that energy cannot be destroyed but can convert into another form of energy we call the Magnetoelectric EMP.  See  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explosive-driven_ferromagnetic_generator https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explosive-driven_ferromagnetic_generator  This is a direct conversion of powerful magnetic flux field directly into very high power electrical output.
 
 On 12/30/2018 11:29 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
 
 Tesla's Pyro generator to which I referred which took advantage of iron phase shift.
 
 https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/patents/us-patent-428057-pyromagneto-electric-generator https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/patents/us-patent-428057-pyromagneto-electric-generator

Somewhere here we have to jump back and address IONS both positive and negative.  See my 1996 paper for KeelyNet titled WHAT is Heat which dealt with ionization and its potential.  The loss or gain of electrons in the atomic lattice causes the precise predictability of the various phase change points.

This is the Bad Boy that I wanted to build using nitrogen gas and an alpha emitter electrodes. 





                      What is Heat #2
  
  
  
  
 For about 10 years I have been studying the effects of
 heating and cooling associated with the phase change of
 liquids with the hope of building a simple generator of
 electrical power around the phenomenon.  The reason for this
 interest is based on the theory that energy can be extracted
 from the ambient background via thermal differentials.  My
 line of thinking really took off back when I experimented
 with the all too familiar Peltier junction devices found in
 electronic cooling devices.  Would you believe that most
 people do not understand how these devices move thermal
 energy through a current flow across a semiconductor
 junction.  Historically we find that German physicist,
 Thomas Seebeck back in 1820 observed that when heat was
 applied to a junction of copper and steel wire that
 electrical energy resulted.  Later in 1834 Jean Peltier
 discovered that when a direct current was applied to two
 dissimilar metals the junction got hot or cold.  It was not
 until 1838 that Emil Lenz clearly showed the importance of
 both Seebeck and Peltier s discoveries by placing a drop of
 water on the junction of dissimilar metals which froze then
 melted when the polarity of the direct current was
 reversed.  These discoveries remained dormant for over 100
 years because of the unavailability of semiconductor
 materials which could provide the wide temperature
 differentials.  In the 1930 s semiconductor materials became
 available which revived the electric cooling principles.  In
 the 1960 s many companies began building spot cooling
 devices and refrigerators based on these effects using a
 junction material of bismuth-telluride. Today more advanced
 materials are used with the basic parameters of being a pore
 thermal conductor but being an excellent electrical
 conductor. The dissimilar materials must provide a high
 coefficient of voltage temperature relationship.  The first
 Peltier devices that I experimented with back about 10 years
 ago were built by Marlow Industries here in Dallas.   With a
 small temperature differential across the device a weak
 current with an attendant voltage was developed.  Increasing
 the differential provided a proportional increase in current
 and voltage.  About 6 years ago I posted a chart of the
 wattage generated from two different size Peltier chips on
 the KeelyNet BBS.   My curiosity was based on the puzzle of
 how electron flow could move thermal energy across the
 junctions and how electrical energy was produced by moving
 thermal energy across the junction.  This is a directly
 reversible situation based on polarity.
 Now let us look at a very familiar parallel process used in
 refrigeration, cooling and heating devices employing phase
 change material such as water and refrigerants.  We have
 always been led to believe that evaporating water provided
 cooling effects which is a mechanical process. By the same
 mechanical process we are provided heating effects by the
 condensation of a gas back to a liquid phase change.  Would
 you believe that any material that undergoes a phase change
 provides an attendant electrical effect.   Back in 1840
 Armstrong invented an electrostatic generator based on
 escaping steam through insulated nozzles which provided one
 of the most powerful devices of this type ever built.
 Popular belief was that this was a frictional process with
 the electrical output resulting from the steam friction
 passing through the nozzles.   After reading an old (1920 s)
 Thermodynamics in Chemistry text book I realized that the
 phase change of materials was an electrical phenomenon and
 not purely mechanical.  The atoms of the material lose or
 gain electrons in the process which accounts for the
 discrepancy in the energy equation when a material
 transitions between phases.  More energy is present after
 the phase change back to the lower form or atomic state. The
 text book stated that this phenomenon could not be
 explained.  When Jerry and I attended a Conference hosted by
 Hal Puthoff down in Austin back about 6 years ago a
 physicist from Austria presented a paper on the phase change
 of water and the attendant electrical phenomenon which is
 totally not understood by modern science.  Now my suspicions
 were confirmed that phase changes of materials are an
 electrostatic phenomenon, which leads us to the fundamental
 question of, What is heat?    We were told in the school 
 that heat is the presence of energy and cool is the absence
 of energy.  What is the form of this energy?  Let us look at
 a very simple example of heating which may explain this
 process.  When sunlight strikes an absorbing surface it is
 heated because electrons in the material are converted to
 photons which are emitted in the infrared band of light
 leaving the material in a net positive state or hot.  The
 more electrons a material looses the hotter it becomes.  Now
 the inverse situation is explored by evaporating some water
 from the surface of a material which leaves the surface in a
 net negative state or cold.  Heat or cold is based on the
 ion relationship in the material.  When we apply a flame
 (ionizing) to a material we cause the emission of photons
 which is basically stripping away electrons from the atomic
 structure causing a gross net positive situation to occur.
 Now we are getting a picture as to how an electric current
 across the Peltier junction can transport thermal energy
 (ions).  Since the energy is in the form of presence or
 absence of electrons then it is a simple explanation as to
 how the process works.  All phase change processes work the
 same way basically via ion transport and are not mechanical
 processes which we were taught.  Everything in chemistry is
 an electrical or electrostatic process at the atomic level
 based on the ionized state of the atoms involved.
 At a Vangard Science Round table discussion several years ago
 we talked about the ion wind method of fire fighting in
 which ionized air will extinguish a flame because of the
 cooling effects.  Now we see Patents issued based on
 negative ion spraying of a surface causing it to rapidly
 cool because it becomes net negative charged.  This is a
 very efficient method of air-conditioning because an ion
 generator operates at very high voltages with very little
 current involved.   It is possible to develop this ion
 transport (thermal energy) to provide direct electrical
 output from very subtle temperature differentials.  Remember
 that this is a direct reversible process where a thermal
 differential will cause a development of current and voltage
 as in the Peltier device.   I hope that this dialog will
 provide some food for thought out there on the KeelyNet.
 Please provide some feedback on this very interesting line
 of experimentation.   Norm

http://digital.csic.es/bitstream/10261/117663/1/pressure-induced%20magnetic.pdf

https://www.ijser.org/researchpaper/First-Principles-Study-of-Pressure-Induced-Phase-Transition-Electronic.pdf

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/26721092_Pressure-Induced_Magnetic_Transition_in_Manganite_La075Ca025MnO3

In conclusion, we find a monotonic decrease of the total
ferromagnetic moment as a function of pressure combined
with an anisotropic distortion of MnO6 octahedra leading
to A-type orbital ordering. The predominant effect of the
applied external pressure is to increase the strength of the
superexchange interaction relative to the double exchange
[8]. As a result, the system tends to increase the number of
AFM bonds by decreasing the dimension of the FM region
from 3 (F-type) to 2 (A-type). This directly leads to a
strong decrease in hopping integral in one direction, and
a concomitant increasing in the population of planar x2-y2
orbitals. The resultant nonuniform electron density couples
to the lattice via the Jahn-Teller effect causing a strained
distortion even under a uniform pressure. This explanation
is in agreement with the theoretical prediction of a general
sequence of FM ! A-AF ! C-AF ! G-AF under uniform
compression in La1
xSrxMnO3 [31].

I told you that the SHIT just gets deeper and deeper.  Norm

On 12/31/2018 7:16 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> https://www.phys.ksu.edu/personal/wysin/notes/quantumEM.pdf
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_harmonic_oscillator
>
> This SHIT just keeps getting deeper.  I have to agree with Tesla.
>
> “Today’s scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and 
> they wander off through equation after equation, and eventually build 
> a structure which has no relation to reality. ”
> ― Nikola Tesla
>
> On 12/31/2018 7:04 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>
>> https://van.physics.illinois.edu/qa/listing.php?id=414
>>
>> On 12/31/2018 7:03 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>
>>> When you set out to research a topic, You have to first define 
>>> it.    Boy, the jury is still out, so to speak for the experts still 
>>> do not know the exact composition of magnetic fields or lines of 
>>> force. Just just have to laugh. See
>>>
>>> Ohttps://van.physics.illinois.edu/qa/listing.php?id=414
>>>
>>> Ok, guys, what is your idea as to composition of magnetic flux??
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/31/2018 5:45 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>
>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explosive-driven_ferromagnetic_generator 
>>>> Source doc. for "pressure-induced magnetic phase transition."
>>>>
>>>> On 12/31/2018 5:43 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directed-energy_weapon This 
>>>>> document is a pretty good review of the DEW technology so far.    
>>>>> My prime interest is in the annihilation of magnetic flux which 
>>>>> according to the Wired article produces a stream of particles that 
>>>>> can be focused and channeled to a target. My question is, What are 
>>>>> the particles that composed the magnetic flux before destruction 
>>>>> and do they comply with the SUPER LIGHT theory.  Folks, this is 
>>>>> whole new ball game if we can create vast energy from directly 
>>>>> destroying magnet flux. Kone, just blow up a few of your 1.5 Tesla 
>>>>> one inch cube magnets and have a direct generation of 
>>>>> "pressure-induced magnetic phase transition." electric output in 
>>>>> KV @ KA.     BTW, this is one for Ole to comment on.  Lol
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12/30/2018 1:51 PM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To add to the info on the Neo magnetic NNEMP weapon, take a look 
>>>>>> at this Army doc. https://www.wired.com/2009/03/army-turns-bomb/ 
>>>>>> In the old Flux compression Generators there was a need for HV 
>>>>>> capacitor bank and a long solenoid coil to provide the powerful 
>>>>>> magnetic flux field needed to be annihilated which yielded the 
>>>>>> EMP (Magneto-electric pulse).  It  reasoned that the new family 
>>>>>> of Neo magnets held the necessary flux strength which negated the 
>>>>>> heavy capacitors and copper solenoid coil.  With a super fast 
>>>>>> explosive , Octanitrocubane  could destroy the Neo's in the 
>>>>>> nanosecond range needed for the EMP shot (magnetic flux converted 
>>>>>> into particle flux which is the constituents of the magnetic field)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octanitrocubane
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12/30/2018 11:42 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Remember that my main line of research is the Magnetic flux 
>>>>>>> annihilation-Reconnect EMP phenomenon.  Here is a first step 
>>>>>>> into learning more about the Magnetoelectric effect.  Just build 
>>>>>>> sensors. See attachment.   Now that you have a sensor lets look 
>>>>>>> at the Magnetoelectric (EMP output when you destroy a very 
>>>>>>> powerful neo magnet via rapid explosives.  Remember that energy 
>>>>>>> cannot be destroyed but can convert into another form of energy 
>>>>>>> we call the Magnetoelectric EMP.  See 
>>>>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explosive-driven_ferromagnetic_generator 
>>>>>>> This is a direct conversion of powerful magnetic flux field 
>>>>>>> directly into very high power electrical output.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 12/30/2018 11:29 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tesla's Pyro generator to which I referred which took advantage 
>>>>>>>> of iron phase shift.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/patents/us-patent-428057-pyromagneto-electric-generator
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Somewhere here we have to jump back and address IONS both positive and negative.  See my 1996 paper for KeelyNet titled WHAT is Heat which dealt with ionization and its potential.  The loss or gain of electrons in the atomic lattice causes the precise predictability of the various phase change points.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is the Bad Boy that I wanted to build using nitrogen gas and an alpha emitter electrodes.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What is Heat #2
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For about 10 years I have been studying the effects of
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> heating and cooling associated with the phase change of
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> liquids with the hope of building a simple generator of
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> electrical power around the phenomenon.The reason for this
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> interest is based on the theory that energy can be extracted
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> from the ambient background via thermal differentials.My
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> line of thinking really took off back when I experimented
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> with the all too familiar Peltier junction devices found in
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> electronic cooling devices.Would you believe that most
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> people do not understand how these devices move thermal
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> energy through a current flow across a semiconductor
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> junction.Historically we find that German physicist,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thomas Seebeck back in 1820 observed that when heat was
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> applied to a junction of copper and steel wire that
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> electrical energy resulted.Later in 1834 Jean Peltier
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> discovered that when a direct current was applied to two
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> dissimilar metals the junction got hot or cold.It was not
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> until 1838 that Emil Lenz clearly showed the importance of
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> both Seebeck and Peltier s discoveries by placing a drop of
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> water on the junction of dissimilar metals which froze then
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> melted when the polarity of the direct current was
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> reversed.These discoveries remained dormant for over 100
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> years because of the unavailability of semiconductor
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> materials which could provide the wide temperature
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> differentials.In the 1930 s semiconductor materials became
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> available which revived the electric cooling principles.In
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the 1960 s many companies began building spot cooling
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> devices and refrigerators based on these effects using a
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> junction material of bismuth-telluride. Today more advanced
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> materials are used with the basic parameters of being a pore
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> thermal conductor but being an excellent electrical
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> conductor. The dissimilar materials must provide a high
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> coefficient of voltage temperature relationship.The first
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Peltier devices that I experimented with back about 10 years
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ago were built by Marlow Industries here in Dallas.With a
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> small temperature differential across the device a weak
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> current with an attendant voltage was developed.Increasing
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the differential provided a proportional increase in current
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and voltage.About 6 years ago I posted a chart of the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> wattage generated from two different size Peltier chips on
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the KeelyNet BBS.My curiosity was based on the puzzle of
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> how electron flow could move thermal energy across the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> junctions and how electrical energy was produced by moving
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> thermal energy across the junction.This is a directly
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> reversible situation based on polarity.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Now let us look at a very familiar parallel process used in
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> refrigeration, cooling and heating devices employing phase
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> change material such as water and refrigerants.We have
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> always been led to believe that evaporating water provided
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> cooling effects which is a mechanical process. By the same
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> mechanical process we are provided heating effects by the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> condensation of a gas back to a liquid phase change.Would
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> you believe that any material that undergoes a phase change
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> provides an attendant electrical effect.Back in 1840
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Armstrong invented an electrostatic generator based on
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> escaping steam through insulated nozzles which provided one
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> of the most powerful devices of this type ever built.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Popular belief was that this was a frictional process with
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the electrical output resulting from the steam friction
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> passing through the nozzles.After reading an old (1920 s)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thermodynamics in Chemistry text book I realized that the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> phase change of materials was an electrical phenomenon and
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> not purely mechanical.The atoms of the material lose or
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> gain electrons in the process which accounts for the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> discrepancy in the energy equation when a material
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> transitions between phases.More energy is present after
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the phase change back to the lower form or atomic state. The
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> text book stated that this phenomenon could not be
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> explained.When Jerry and I attended a Conference hosted by
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hal Puthoff down in Austin back about 6 years ago a
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> physicist from Austria presented a paper on the phase change
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> of water and the attendant electrical phenomenon which is
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> totally not understood by modern science.Now my suspicions
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> were confirmed that phase changes of materials are an
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> electrostatic phenomenon, which leads us to the fundamental
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> question of, What is heat?We were told in the school
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> that heat is the presence of energy and cool is the absence
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> of energy.What is the form of this energy?Let us look at
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> a very simple example of heating which may explain this
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> process.When sunlight strikes an absorbing surface it is
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> heated because electrons in the material are converted to
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> photons which are emitted in the infrared band of light
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> leaving the material in a net positive state or hot.The
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> more electrons a material looses the hotter it becomes.Now
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the inverse situation is explored by evaporating some water
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> from the surface of a material which leaves the surface in a
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> net negative state or cold.Heat or cold is based on the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ion relationship in the material.When we apply a flame
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (ionizing) to a material we cause the emission of photons
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> which is basically stripping away electrons from the atomic
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> structure causing a gross net positive situation to occur.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Now we are getting a picture as to how an electric current
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> across the Peltier junction can transport thermal energy
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (ions).Since the energy is in the form of presence or
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> absence of electrons then it is a simple explanation as to
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> how the process works.All phase change processes work the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> same way basically via ion transport and are not mechanical
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> processes which we were taught.Everything in chemistry is
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> an electrical or electrostatic process at the atomic level
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> based on the ionized state of the atoms involved.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> At a Vangard Science Round table discussion several years ago
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> we talked about the ion wind method of fire fighting in
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> which ionized air will extinguish a flame because of the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> cooling effects.Now we see Patents issued based on
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> negative ion spraying of a surface causing it to rapidly
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> cool because it becomes net negative charged.This is a
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> very efficient method of air-conditioning because an ion
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> generator operates at very high voltages with very little
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> current involved.It is possible to develop this ion
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> transport (thermal energy) to provide direct electrical
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> output from very subtle temperature differentials.Remember
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> that this is a direct reversible process where a thermal
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> differential will cause a development of current and voltage
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> as in the Peltier device.I hope that this dialog will
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> provide some food for thought out there on the KeelyNet.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please provide some feedback on this very interesting line
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> of experimentation.Norm
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 12/30/2018 10:49 AM, Bob Paddock wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 9:42 AM Norman Wootan<[email protected]>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> As molten iron cools past its freezing point of 1538 °C, it crystallizes
>>>>>>>>> Where would something like the Barkenhausen effect, fit into this
>>>>>>>>> whole Iron thing?; See Volume-II of the Feynman Lecture on Physics.
>>>>>>>>> Feynman demonstrates energy generation, at a small scale.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There is also "CATER, Joseph: The Awesome Life Force ~ A 1980s classic
>>>>>>>>> review of alternative sciences (PDF)",
>>>>>>>>> based on a mixture of conventional and original ideas by Cater.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://rexresearch.com/pdf/CaterAwesomeLifeForce.pdf
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Pg 126 "Nature of Magnetic Fields", pg 167 "Soft Electrons, Magnetic
>>>>>>>>> fields", pg 204 "Transmission through materials"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> which lead us to pg 256 "THE SELF-SUSTAINING ELECTRIC GENERATOR",
>>>>>>>>> based on Hubbard's Generator made of Iron shown later in the book.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We also have those that prefer to use metals that were forged
>>>>>>>>> pre-atomic-blasts in some esoteric devices. ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ��My brain is only a receiver, in the Universe there is a core from which we obtain knowledge, strength and inspiration. I have not penetrated into the secrets of this core, but I know that it exists.”
>>>>>>>>>> ― Nikola Tesla
>>>>>>>>> Considered the Raikov Effect or Deep Trance Identification?
>>>>>>>>>
>

https://www.alibaba.com/showroom/n55-neodymium-magnet.html   Some of 
these N-55 Neos and some explosives and Kone would be plumb dangerous! Lol

On 12/31/2018 8:49 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>
> http://digital.csic.es/bitstream/10261/117663/1/pressure-induced%20magnetic.pdf
>
> https://www.ijser.org/researchpaper/First-Principles-Study-of-Pressure-Induced-Phase-Transition-Electronic.pdf
>
> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/26721092_Pressure-Induced_Magnetic_Transition_in_Manganite_La075Ca025MnO3
>
> In conclusion, we find a monotonic decrease of the total
> ferromagnetic moment as a function of pressure combined
> with an anisotropic distortion of MnO6 octahedra leading
> to A-type orbital ordering. The predominant effect of the
> applied external pressure is to increase the strength of the
> superexchange interaction relative to the double exchange
> [8]. As a result, the system tends to increase the number of
> AFM bonds by decreasing the dimension of the FM region
> from 3 (F-type) to 2 (A-type). This directly leads to a
> strong decrease in hopping integral in one direction, and
> a concomitant increasing in the population of planar x2-y2
> orbitals. The resultant nonuniform electron density couples
> to the lattice via the Jahn-Teller effect causing a strained
> distortion even under a uniform pressure. This explanation
> is in agreement with the theoretical prediction of a general
> sequence of FM ! A-AF ! C-AF ! G-AF under uniform
> compression in La1
xSrxMnO3 [31].
>
> I told you that the SHIT just gets deeper and deeper.  Norm
>
> On 12/31/2018 7:16 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>> https://www.phys.ksu.edu/personal/wysin/notes/quantumEM.pdf
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_harmonic_oscillator
>>
>> This SHIT just keeps getting deeper.  I have to agree with Tesla.
>>
>> “Today’s scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and 
>> they wander off through equation after equation, and eventually build 
>> a structure which has no relation to reality. ”
>> ― Nikola Tesla
>>
>> On 12/31/2018 7:04 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>
>>> https://van.physics.illinois.edu/qa/listing.php?id=414
>>>
>>> On 12/31/2018 7:03 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>
>>>> When you set out to research a topic, You have to first define 
>>>> it.    Boy, the jury is still out, so to speak for the experts 
>>>> still do not know the exact composition of magnetic fields or lines 
>>>> of force. Just just have to laugh. See
>>>>
>>>> Ohttps://van.physics.illinois.edu/qa/listing.php?id=414
>>>>
>>>> Ok, guys, what is your idea as to composition of magnetic flux??
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 12/31/2018 5:45 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explosive-driven_ferromagnetic_generator 
>>>>> Source doc. for "pressure-induced magnetic phase transition."
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12/31/2018 5:43 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directed-energy_weapon This 
>>>>>> document is a pretty good review of the DEW technology so far.    
>>>>>> My prime interest is in the annihilation of magnetic flux which 
>>>>>> according to the Wired article produces a stream of particles 
>>>>>> that can be focused and channeled to a target. My question is, 
>>>>>> What are the particles that composed the magnetic flux before 
>>>>>> destruction and do they comply with the SUPER LIGHT theory.  
>>>>>> Folks, this is whole new ball game if we can create vast energy 
>>>>>> from directly destroying magnet flux.   Kone, just blow up a few 
>>>>>> of your 1.5 Tesla one inch cube magnets and have a direct 
>>>>>> generation of "pressure-induced magnetic phase transition." 
>>>>>> electric output in KV @ KA.     BTW, this is one for Ole to 
>>>>>> comment on.  Lol
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12/30/2018 1:51 PM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To add to the info on the Neo magnetic NNEMP weapon, take a look 
>>>>>>> at this Army doc. https://www.wired.com/2009/03/army-turns-bomb/ 
>>>>>>> In the old Flux compression Generators there was a need for HV 
>>>>>>> capacitor bank and a long solenoid coil to provide the powerful 
>>>>>>> magnetic flux field needed to be annihilated which yielded the 
>>>>>>> EMP (Magneto-electric pulse).  It reasoned that the new family 
>>>>>>> of Neo magnets held the necessary flux strength which negated 
>>>>>>> the heavy capacitors and copper solenoid coil.  With a super 
>>>>>>> fast explosive , Octanitrocubane  could destroy the Neo's in the 
>>>>>>> nanosecond range needed for the EMP shot (magnetic flux 
>>>>>>> converted into particle flux which is the constituents of the 
>>>>>>> magnetic field)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octanitrocubane
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 12/30/2018 11:42 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Remember that my main line of research is the Magnetic flux 
>>>>>>>> annihilation-Reconnect EMP phenomenon.  Here is a first step 
>>>>>>>> into learning more about the Magnetoelectric effect.  Just 
>>>>>>>> build sensors. See attachment.   Now that you have a sensor 
>>>>>>>> lets look at the Magnetoelectric (EMP output when you destroy a 
>>>>>>>> very powerful neo magnet via rapid explosives.  Remember that 
>>>>>>>> energy cannot be destroyed but can convert into another form of 
>>>>>>>> energy we call the Magnetoelectric EMP.  See 
>>>>>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explosive-driven_ferromagnetic_generator 
>>>>>>>> This is a direct conversion of powerful magnetic flux field 
>>>>>>>> directly into very high power electrical output.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 12/30/2018 11:29 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Tesla's Pyro generator to which I referred which took 
>>>>>>>>> advantage of iron phase shift.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/patents/us-patent-428057-pyromagneto-electric-generator
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Somewhere here we have to jump back and address IONS both positive and negative.  See my 1996 paper for KeelyNet titled WHAT is Heat which dealt with ionization and its potential.  The loss or gain of electrons in the atomic lattice causes the precise predictability of the various phase change points.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This is the Bad Boy that I wanted to build using nitrogen gas and an alpha emitter electrodes.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What is Heat #2
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For about 10 years I have been studying the effects of
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> heating and cooling associated with the phase change of
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> liquids with the hope of building a simple generator of
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> electrical power around the phenomenon.The reason for this
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> interest is based on the theory that energy can be extracted
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> from the ambient background via thermal differentials.My
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> line of thinking really took off back when I experimented
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> with the all too familiar Peltier junction devices found in
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> electronic cooling devices.Would you believe that most
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> people do not understand how these devices move thermal
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> energy through a current flow across a semiconductor
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> junction.Historically we find that German physicist,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thomas Seebeck back in 1820 observed that when heat was
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> applied to a junction of copper and steel wire that
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> electrical energy resulted.Later in 1834 Jean Peltier
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> discovered that when a direct current was applied to two
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> dissimilar metals the junction got hot or cold.It was not
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> until 1838 that Emil Lenz clearly showed the importance of
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> both Seebeck and Peltier s discoveries by placing a drop of
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> water on the junction of dissimilar metals which froze then
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> melted when the polarity of the direct current was
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> reversed.These discoveries remained dormant for over 100
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> years because of the unavailability of semiconductor
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> materials which could provide the wide temperature
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> differentials.In the 1930 s semiconductor materials became
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> available which revived the electric cooling principles.In
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> the 1960 s many companies began building spot cooling
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> devices and refrigerators based on these effects using a
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> junction material of bismuth-telluride. Today more advanced
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> materials are used with the basic parameters of being a pore
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> thermal conductor but being an excellent electrical
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> conductor. The dissimilar materials must provide a high
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> coefficient of voltage temperature relationship.The first
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Peltier devices that I experimented with back about 10 years
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ago were built by Marlow Industries here in Dallas.With a
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> small temperature differential across the device a weak
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> current with an attendant voltage was developed.Increasing
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> the differential provided a proportional increase in current
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> and voltage.About 6 years ago I posted a chart of the
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> wattage generated from two different size Peltier chips on
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> the KeelyNet BBS.My curiosity was based on the puzzle of
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> how electron flow could move thermal energy across the
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> junctions and how electrical energy was produced by moving
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> thermal energy across the junction.This is a directly
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> reversible situation based on polarity.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Now let us look at a very familiar parallel process used in
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> refrigeration, cooling and heating devices employing phase
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> change material such as water and refrigerants.We have
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> always been led to believe that evaporating water provided
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> cooling effects which is a mechanical process. By the same
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> mechanical process we are provided heating effects by the
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> condensation of a gas back to a liquid phase change.Would
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> you believe that any material that undergoes a phase change
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> provides an attendant electrical effect.Back in 1840
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Armstrong invented an electrostatic generator based on
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> escaping steam through insulated nozzles which provided one
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> of the most powerful devices of this type ever built.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Popular belief was that this was a frictional process with
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> the electrical output resulting from the steam friction
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> passing through the nozzles.After reading an old (1920 s)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thermodynamics in Chemistry text book I realized that the
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> phase change of materials was an electrical phenomenon and
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> not purely mechanical.The atoms of the material lose or
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> gain electrons in the process which accounts for the
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> discrepancy in the energy equation when a material
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> transitions between phases.More energy is present after
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> the phase change back to the lower form or atomic state. The
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> text book stated that this phenomenon could not be
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> explained.When Jerry and I attended a Conference hosted by
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hal Puthoff down in Austin back about 6 years ago a
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> physicist from Austria presented a paper on the phase change
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> of water and the attendant electrical phenomenon which is
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> totally not understood by modern science.Now my suspicions
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> were confirmed that phase changes of materials are an
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> electrostatic phenomenon, which leads us to the fundamental
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> question of, What is heat?We were told in the school
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> that heat is the presence of energy and cool is the absence
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> of energy.What is the form of this energy?Let us look at
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> a very simple example of heating which may explain this
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> process.When sunlight strikes an absorbing surface it is
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> heated because electrons in the material are converted to
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> photons which are emitted in the infrared band of light
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> leaving the material in a net positive state or hot.The
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> more electrons a material looses the hotter it becomes.Now
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> the inverse situation is explored by evaporating some water
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> from the surface of a material which leaves the surface in a
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> net negative state or cold.Heat or cold is based on the
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ion relationship in the material.When we apply a flame
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> (ionizing) to a material we cause the emission of photons
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> which is basically stripping away electrons from the atomic
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> structure causing a gross net positive situation to occur.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Now we are getting a picture as to how an electric current
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> across the Peltier junction can transport thermal energy
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> (ions).Since the energy is in the form of presence or
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> absence of electrons then it is a simple explanation as to
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> how the process works.All phase change processes work the
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> same way basically via ion transport and are not mechanical
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> processes which we were taught.Everything in chemistry is
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> an electrical or electrostatic process at the atomic level
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> based on the ionized state of the atoms involved.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> At a Vangard Science Round table discussion several years ago
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> we talked about the ion wind method of fire fighting in
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> which ionized air will extinguish a flame because of the
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> cooling effects.Now we see Patents issued based on
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> negative ion spraying of a surface causing it to rapidly
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> cool because it becomes net negative charged.This is a
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> very efficient method of air-conditioning because an ion
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> generator operates at very high voltages with very little
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> current involved.It is possible to develop this ion
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> transport (thermal energy) to provide direct electrical
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> output from very subtle temperature differentials.Remember
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> that this is a direct reversible process where a thermal
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> differential will cause a development of current and voltage
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> as in the Peltier device.I hope that this dialog will
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> provide some food for thought out there on the KeelyNet.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Please provide some feedback on this very interesting line
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> of experimentation.Norm
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 12/30/2018 10:49 AM, Bob Paddock wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 9:42 AM Norman Wootan<[email protected]>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> As molten iron cools past its freezing point of 1538 °C, it crystallizes
>>>>>>>>>> Where would something like the Barkenhausen effect, fit into this
>>>>>>>>>> whole Iron thing?; See Volume-II of the Feynman Lecture on Physics.
>>>>>>>>>> Feynman demonstrates energy generation, at a small scale.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There is also "CATER, Joseph: The Awesome Life Force ~ A 1980s classic
>>>>>>>>>> review of alternative sciences (PDF)",
>>>>>>>>>> based on a mixture of conventional and original ideas by Cater.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://rexresearch.com/pdf/CaterAwesomeLifeForce.pdf
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Pg 126 "Nature of Magnetic Fields", pg 167 "Soft Electrons, Magnetic
>>>>>>>>>> fields", pg 204 "Transmission through materials"
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> which lead us to pg 256 "THE SELF-SUSTAINING ELECTRIC GENERATOR",
>>>>>>>>>> based on Hubbard's Generator made of Iron shown later in the book.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We also have those that prefer to use metals that were forged
>>>>>>>>>> pre-atomic-blasts in some esoteric devices. ?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ��My brain is only a receiver, in the Universe there is a core from which we obtain knowledge, strength and inspiration. I have not penetrated into the secrets of this core, but I know that it exists.”
>>>>>>>>>>> ― Nikola Tesla
>>>>>>>>>> Considered the Raikov Effect or Deep Trance Identification?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>

Ole and Mick, I am seeing two ways of the saturation phenomenon. By 
subjecting powerful neo magnetic to a hydro-static pressure of 23gpa 
there is a total disappearance of ferromagnetism and a conversion of the 
stored energy in the fields into electrical energy.  Now I understand 
why Tesla experimented with supersaturation of iron.  In recent 
Scientific and Physics papers we see that fundamental atomic lattice 
structures are altered and lends credence to the idea that iron Fe can 
transition to Mn (down shift in periodic table) at super saturation 
(magnetically) yielding electrons.

On 12/31/2018 8:12 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Hi Mick,
>
> The NMR is mentioned in another video about trimming or finding 
> resonance. The nonlinear regions around saturation of the magnetizing 
> curve are what are causing ferroresonance. Saturation happens very 
> fast and can be used for making very short pulses. This is the 
> interesting region with its negative inductance characteristic to look 
> for free energy.
>
> The big problem is calculating nonlinear circuits.
>
> Regards
> Ole
>
>
>
> ---In [email protected], <mkjekyll@...> wrote :
>
> Ole,
>
> The magnet, It was just another guess. I did not know he mentioned NMR.
>
> I think we are all coming very close to the answers with Norm 
> reminding us of the importance of the saturated state iron energy 
> pump.  Just have to find the commonalities of the working systems 
> without becoming overwhelmed.
>
> On 12/30/2018 7:01 PM, onielsen@... <mailto:onielsen@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
>>     kHi Mick,
>>
>>     I don't think he use magnets to bias the core. Here is a YouTube
>>     channel with Akula videos:
>>     https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCe-rV_geumWg3VXqgZ9pjvw/videos.
>>     In one of the videos he show that there is an air gap at each leg
>>     of the ring core (double U-core) made by two small pieces of
>>     paper. It's the video of the number four lantern where he splits
>>     it apart at the end. He also shows how to find the NMR of a core
>>     in one of the videos.
>>
>>     If not removing the energy while keeping on adding pulses to the
>>     primary coil the core will go into saturation. If the output is
>>     of too low resistance it can't absorb the energy fast enough
>>     which only increases the magnetization. At some point the
>>     inductance decreases when the core can't conduct anymore magnetic
>>     flux.
>>
>>     Here is Akula0083's YouTube channel:
>>     https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2aHNMDJzRW7YDd145_Pa2w/featured.
>>     To find his free energy videos here go back three to four years
>>     in the 'VIDEOS' tab.
>>
>>     Regards
>>     Ole
>>
>>
>>
>>     ---In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>,
>>     <mkjekyll@...> <mailto:mkjekyll@...> wrote :
>>
>>     Ole,
>>
>>     Maybe he has a neo on the core to get it close to saturation.
>>
>>     On 12/30/2018 4:43 PM, onielsen@... <mailto:onielsen@...>
>>     [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>>>         Hi Norman, Mick,
>>>
>>>         I wonder if Roman Karnouhov (Akula0083) is driving the core
>>>         into saturation by a sequence of pulses in his self-runner
>>>         lanterns. He shows the collector voltage of the output
>>>         transistor that drives the primary coil in his lantern going
>>>         negative: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nl9E8F1gOD0 (21:58).
>>>         The auto generated subtitle translation of this video isn't
>>>         too good. The negative biasing happens while the transistor
>>>         is supposed to be forward conducting by having positive base
>>>         signal. The current through the winding isn't shown to
>>>         actual see what happens. Roman claims the effect to be
>>>         ferrorresoannce which requires the core to actually
>>>         saturate. It's also claimed that the rise time of the
>>>         primary coil signal must be faster than the period of the
>>>         ferroresonant frequency. Such short pulse periods at this
>>>         low voltage shouldn't saturate the coil unless it is already
>>>         biased close to the saturation current. This could actually
>>>         be the case with the unidirectional succeeding pulses. Roman
>>>         doesn't show the phasing of the primary to secondary coils.
>>>         But if the secondary current flows while the primary current
>>>         is off and the converter runs in continuous mode (i.e. the
>>>         current never goes to zero) the working point of the
>>>         magnetization can be put around the saturation level (the
>>>         knee point of the magnetization curve). This allows storing
>>>         magnetic energy in the core to be able to saturate it by
>>>         adding only a small amount of extra energy. This is then
>>>         done by the very short pulse that saturates the core and
>>>         thus makes the inductance of the windings almost vanish
>>>         which increases the current through the windings. Roman
>>>         calls this the inertia of the current. As the current is
>>>         always continuous through an inductor (i.e. no jumps are
>>>         allowed) only the voltage across it can jump or change sign
>>>         to switch the power direction from absorbing energy to
>>>         giving off energy. But the voltage across the primary coil
>>>         doesn't change sign. Instead the voltage across it increases
>>>         to more than the supply voltage by crossing the ground level
>>>         (0V). As this voltage is greater than the input voltage the
>>>         energy can't flow from the voltage supply and thus either
>>>         must exit the primary winding through the reverse biased
>>>         transistor or exit through the secondary winding. As we
>>>         don't know the phasing of the windings the current of the
>>>         secondary can go through one of the two output diodes (VD3,
>>>         VD4) to either the LEDs or back to the voltage supply
>>>         capacitors.
>>>
>

When it all gets confusing, just go back to basics. See 
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_field

Energy is needed to generate a magnetic field both to work against the 
electric field that a changing magnetic field creates and to change the 
magnetization of any material within the magnetic field. For 
non-dispersive materials, this same energy is released when the magnetic 
field is destroyed so that the energy can be modeled as being stored in 
the magnetic field.

On 12/31/2018 8:59 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> https://www.alibaba.com/showroom/n55-neodymium-magnet.html Some of 
> these N-55 Neos and some explosives and Kone would be plumb dangerous! Lol
>
> On 12/31/2018 8:49 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>
>> http://digital.csic.es/bitstream/10261/117663/1/pressure-induced%20magnetic.pdf
>>
>> https://www.ijser.org/researchpaper/First-Principles-Study-of-Pressure-Induced-Phase-Transition-Electronic.pdf
>>
>> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/26721092_Pressure-Induced_Magnetic_Transition_in_Manganite_La075Ca025MnO3
>>
>> In conclusion, we find a monotonic decrease of the total
>> ferromagnetic moment as a function of pressure combined
>> with an anisotropic distortion of MnO6 octahedra leading
>> to A-type orbital ordering. The predominant effect of the
>> applied external pressure is to increase the strength of the
>> superexchange interaction relative to the double exchange
>> [8]. As a result, the system tends to increase the number of
>> AFM bonds by decreasing the dimension of the FM region
>> from 3 (F-type) to 2 (A-type). This directly leads to a
>> strong decrease in hopping integral in one direction, and
>> a concomitant increasing in the population of planar x2-y2
>> orbitals. The resultant nonuniform electron density couples
>> to the lattice via the Jahn-Teller effect causing a strained
>> distortion even under a uniform pressure. This explanation
>> is in agreement with the theoretical prediction of a general
>> sequence of FM ! A-AF ! C-AF ! G-AF under uniform
>> compression in La1
xSrxMnO3 [31].
>>
>> I told you that the SHIT just gets deeper and deeper. Norm
>>
>> On 12/31/2018 7:16 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>> https://www.phys.ksu.edu/personal/wysin/notes/quantumEM.pdf
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_harmonic_oscillator
>>>
>>> This SHIT just keeps getting deeper.  I have to agree with Tesla.
>>>
>>> “Today’s scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, 
>>> and they wander off through equation after equation, and eventually 
>>> build a structure which has no relation to reality. ”
>>> ― Nikola Tesla
>>>
>>> On 12/31/2018 7:04 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>
>>>> https://van.physics.illinois.edu/qa/listing.php?id=414
>>>>
>>>> On 12/31/2018 7:03 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> When you set out to research a topic, You have to first define 
>>>>> it.    Boy, the jury is still out, so to speak for the experts 
>>>>> still do not know the exact composition of magnetic fields or 
>>>>> lines of force.  Just just have to laugh. See
>>>>>
>>>>> Ohttps://van.physics.illinois.edu/qa/listing.php?id=414
>>>>>
>>>>> Ok, guys, what is your idea as to composition of magnetic flux??
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12/31/2018 5:45 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explosive-driven_ferromagnetic_generator 
>>>>>> Source doc. for "pressure-induced magnetic phase transition."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12/31/2018 5:43 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directed-energy_weapon This 
>>>>>>> document is a pretty good review of the DEW technology so 
>>>>>>> far.    My prime interest is in the annihilation of magnetic 
>>>>>>> flux which according to the Wired article produces a stream of 
>>>>>>> particles that can be focused and channeled to a target. My 
>>>>>>> question is, What are the particles that composed the magnetic 
>>>>>>> flux before destruction and do they comply with the SUPER LIGHT 
>>>>>>> theory.  Folks, this is whole new ball game if we can create 
>>>>>>> vast energy from directly destroying magnet flux. Kone, just 
>>>>>>> blow up a few of your 1.5 Tesla one inch cube magnets and have a 
>>>>>>> direct generation of "pressure-induced magnetic phase 
>>>>>>> transition." electric output in KV @ KA.     BTW, this is one 
>>>>>>> for Ole to comment on.  Lol
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 12/30/2018 1:51 PM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To add to the info on the Neo magnetic NNEMP weapon, take a 
>>>>>>>> look at this Army doc. 
>>>>>>>> https://www.wired.com/2009/03/army-turns-bomb/ In the old Flux 
>>>>>>>> compression Generators there was a need for HV capacitor bank 
>>>>>>>> and a long solenoid coil to provide the powerful magnetic flux 
>>>>>>>> field needed to be annihilated which yielded the EMP 
>>>>>>>> (Magneto-electric pulse).  It  reasoned that the new family of 
>>>>>>>> Neo magnets held the necessary flux strength which negated the 
>>>>>>>> heavy capacitors and copper solenoid coil.  With a super fast 
>>>>>>>> explosive , Octanitrocubane  could destroy the Neo's in the 
>>>>>>>> nanosecond range needed for the EMP shot (magnetic flux 
>>>>>>>> converted into particle flux which is the constituents of the 
>>>>>>>> magnetic field)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octanitrocubane
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 12/30/2018 11:42 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Remember that my main line of research is the Magnetic flux 
>>>>>>>>> annihilation-Reconnect EMP phenomenon.  Here is a first step 
>>>>>>>>> into learning more about the Magnetoelectric effect.  Just 
>>>>>>>>> build sensors. See attachment.   Now that you have a sensor 
>>>>>>>>> lets look at the Magnetoelectric (EMP output when you destroy 
>>>>>>>>> a very powerful neo magnet via rapid explosives.  Remember 
>>>>>>>>> that energy cannot be destroyed but can convert into another 
>>>>>>>>> form of energy we call the Magnetoelectric EMP.  See 
>>>>>>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explosive-driven_ferromagnetic_generator 
>>>>>>>>> This is a direct conversion of powerful magnetic flux field 
>>>>>>>>> directly into very high power electrical output.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 12/30/2018 11:29 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Tesla's Pyro generator to which I referred which took 
>>>>>>>>>> advantage of iron phase shift.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/patents/us-patent-428057-pyromagneto-electric-generator
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Somewhere here we have to jump back and address IONS both positive and negative.  See my 1996 paper for KeelyNet titled WHAT is Heat which dealt with ionization and its potential.  The loss or gain of electrons in the atomic lattice causes the precise predictability of the various phase change points.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This is the Bad Boy that I wanted to build using nitrogen gas and an alpha emitter electrodes.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What is Heat #2
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> For about 10 years I have been studying the effects of
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> heating and cooling associated with the phase change of
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> liquids with the hope of building a simple generator of
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> electrical power around the phenomenon.The reason for this
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> interest is based on the theory that energy can be extracted
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> from the ambient background via thermal differentials.My
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> line of thinking really took off back when I experimented
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> with the all too familiar Peltier junction devices found in
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> electronic cooling devices.Would you believe that most
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> people do not understand how these devices move thermal
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> energy through a current flow across a semiconductor
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> junction.Historically we find that German physicist,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thomas Seebeck back in 1820 observed that when heat was
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> applied to a junction of copper and steel wire that
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> electrical energy resulted.Later in 1834 Jean Peltier
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> discovered that when a direct current was applied to two
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> dissimilar metals the junction got hot or cold.It was not
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> until 1838 that Emil Lenz clearly showed the importance of
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> both Seebeck and Peltier s discoveries by placing a drop of
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> water on the junction of dissimilar metals which froze then
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> melted when the polarity of the direct current was
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> reversed.These discoveries remained dormant for over 100
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> years because of the unavailability of semiconductor
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> materials which could provide the wide temperature
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> differentials.In the 1930 s semiconductor materials became
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> available which revived the electric cooling principles.In
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the 1960 s many companies began building spot cooling
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> devices and refrigerators based on these effects using a
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> junction material of bismuth-telluride. Today more advanced
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> materials are used with the basic parameters of being a pore
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> thermal conductor but being an excellent electrical
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> conductor. The dissimilar materials must provide a high
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> coefficient of voltage temperature relationship.The first
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Peltier devices that I experimented with back about 10 years
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ago were built by Marlow Industries here in Dallas.With a
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> small temperature differential across the device a weak
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> current with an attendant voltage was developed.Increasing
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the differential provided a proportional increase in current
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> and voltage.About 6 years ago I posted a chart of the
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> wattage generated from two different size Peltier chips on
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the KeelyNet BBS.My curiosity was based on the puzzle of
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> how electron flow could move thermal energy across the
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> junctions and how electrical energy was produced by moving
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> thermal energy across the junction.This is a directly
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> reversible situation based on polarity.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Now let us look at a very familiar parallel process used in
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> refrigeration, cooling and heating devices employing phase
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> change material such as water and refrigerants.We have
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> always been led to believe that evaporating water provided
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> cooling effects which is a mechanical process. By the same
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> mechanical process we are provided heating effects by the
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> condensation of a gas back to a liquid phase change.Would
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> you believe that any material that undergoes a phase change
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> provides an attendant electrical effect.Back in 1840
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Armstrong invented an electrostatic generator based on
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> escaping steam through insulated nozzles which provided one
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> of the most powerful devices of this type ever built.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Popular belief was that this was a frictional process with
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the electrical output resulting from the steam friction
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> passing through the nozzles.After reading an old (1920 s)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thermodynamics in Chemistry text book I realized that the
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> phase change of materials was an electrical phenomenon and
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> not purely mechanical.The atoms of the material lose or
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> gain electrons in the process which accounts for the
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> discrepancy in the energy equation when a material
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> transitions between phases.More energy is present after
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the phase change back to the lower form or atomic state. The
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> text book stated that this phenomenon could not be
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> explained.When Jerry and I attended a Conference hosted by
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hal Puthoff down in Austin back about 6 years ago a
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> physicist from Austria presented a paper on the phase change
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> of water and the attendant electrical phenomenon which is
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> totally not understood by modern science.Now my suspicions
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> were confirmed that phase changes of materials are an
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> electrostatic phenomenon, which leads us to the fundamental
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> question of, What is heat?We were told in the school
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> that heat is the presence of energy and cool is the absence
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> of energy.What is the form of this energy?Let us look at
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> a very simple example of heating which may explain this
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> process.When sunlight strikes an absorbing surface it is
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> heated because electrons in the material are converted to
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> photons which are emitted in the infrared band of light
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> leaving the material in a net positive state or hot.The
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> more electrons a material looses the hotter it becomes.Now
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the inverse situation is explored by evaporating some water
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> from the surface of a material which leaves the surface in a
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> net negative state or cold.Heat or cold is based on the
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ion relationship in the material.When we apply a flame
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> (ionizing) to a material we cause the emission of photons
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> which is basically stripping away electrons from the atomic
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> structure causing a gross net positive situation to occur.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Now we are getting a picture as to how an electric current
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> across the Peltier junction can transport thermal energy
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> (ions).Since the energy is in the form of presence or
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> absence of electrons then it is a simple explanation as to
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> how the process works.All phase change processes work the
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> same way basically via ion transport and are not mechanical
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> processes which we were taught.Everything in chemistry is
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> an electrical or electrostatic process at the atomic level
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> based on the ionized state of the atoms involved.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> At a Vangard Science Round table discussion several years ago
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> we talked about the ion wind method of fire fighting in
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> which ionized air will extinguish a flame because of the
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> cooling effects.Now we see Patents issued based on
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> negative ion spraying of a surface causing it to rapidly
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> cool because it becomes net negative charged.This is a
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> very efficient method of air-conditioning because an ion
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> generator operates at very high voltages with very little
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> current involved.It is possible to develop this ion
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> transport (thermal energy) to provide direct electrical
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> output from very subtle temperature differentials.Remember
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> that this is a direct reversible process where a thermal
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> differential will cause a development of current and voltage
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> as in the Peltier device.I hope that this dialog will
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> provide some food for thought out there on the KeelyNet.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Please provide some feedback on this very interesting line
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> of experimentation.Norm
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 12/30/2018 10:49 AM, Bob Paddock wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 9:42 AM Norman Wootan<[email protected]>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> As molten iron cools past its freezing point of 1538 °C, it crystallizes
>>>>>>>>>>> Where would something like the Barkenhausen effect, fit into this
>>>>>>>>>>> whole Iron thing?; See Volume-II of the Feynman Lecture on Physics.
>>>>>>>>>>> Feynman demonstrates energy generation, at a small scale.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> There is also "CATER, Joseph: The Awesome Life Force ~ A 1980s classic
>>>>>>>>>>> review of alternative sciences (PDF)",
>>>>>>>>>>> based on a mixture of conventional and original ideas by Cater.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://rexresearch.com/pdf/CaterAwesomeLifeForce.pdf
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Pg 126 "Nature of Magnetic Fields", pg 167 "Soft Electrons, Magnetic
>>>>>>>>>>> fields", pg 204 "Transmission through materials"
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> which lead us to pg 256 "THE SELF-SUSTAINING ELECTRIC GENERATOR",
>>>>>>>>>>> based on Hubbard's Generator made of Iron shown later in the book.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We also have those that prefer to use metals that were forged
>>>>>>>>>>> pre-atomic-blasts in some esoteric devices. ?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ��My brain is only a receiver, in the Universe there is a core from which we obtain knowledge, strength and inspiration. I have not penetrated into the secrets of this core, but I know that it exists.”
>>>>>>>>>>>> ― Nikola Tesla
>>>>>>>>>>> Considered the Raikov Effect or Deep Trance Identification?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>

Norm,

Hard to say it's the chicken and the egg again. B before the E and H... 
OK photons are the current answer according to the link, however what if
the B fields were there first, then it would be like magnetic super
strings of some kind.  Now would these be particles or just pertubations
of the background quiescent aether space flux?  There are the monopole
particle theories such as Ed Leedskalnin or Russells magnetic light.  My
theory would be a magnetic particle is the inverse of a photon and as
such something not presently detectable directly.

On 12/31/2018 8:03 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> When you set out to research a topic, You have to first define it.   
> Boy, the jury is still out, so to speak for the experts still do not
> know the exact composition of magnetic fields or lines of force.  Just
> just have to laugh. See
>
> Ohttps://van.physics.illinois.edu/qa/listing.php?id=414
>
> Ok, guys, what is your idea as to composition of magnetic flux??
>
>
> On 12/31/2018 5:45 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>
>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explosive-driven_ferromagnetic_generator  
>> Source doc. for "pressure-induced magnetic phase transition."
>>
>> On 12/31/2018 5:43 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>
>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directed-energy_weapon  This
>>> document is a pretty good review of the DEW technology so far.    My
>>> prime interest is in the annihilation of magnetic flux which
>>> according to the Wired article produces a stream of particles that
>>> can be focused and channeled to a target. My question is, What are
>>> the particles that composed the magnetic flux before destruction and
>>> do they comply with the SUPER LIGHT theory.  Folks, this is whole
>>> new ball game if we can create vast energy from directly destroying
>>> magnet flux.   Kone, just blow up a few of your 1.5 Tesla one inch
>>> cube magnets and have a direct generation of "pressure-induced
>>> magnetic phase transition." electric output in KV @ KA.     BTW,
>>> this is one for Ole to comment on.  Lol
>>>
>>> On 12/30/2018 1:51 PM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>
>>>> To add to the info on the Neo magnetic NNEMP weapon, take a look at
>>>> this Army doc.  https://www.wired.com/2009/03/army-turns-bomb/   
>>>> In the old Flux compression Generators there was a need for HV
>>>> capacitor bank and a long solenoid coil to provide the powerful
>>>> magnetic flux field needed to be annihilated which yielded the EMP
>>>> (Magneto-electric pulse).  It  reasoned that the new family of Neo
>>>> magnets held the necessary flux strength which negated the heavy
>>>> capacitors and copper solenoid coil.  With a super fast explosive ,
>>>> Octanitrocubane  could destroy the Neo's in the nanosecond range
>>>> needed for the EMP shot (magnetic flux converted into particle flux
>>>> which is the constituents of the magnetic field)
>>>>
>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octanitrocubane
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 12/30/2018 11:42 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>> Remember that my main line of research is the Magnetic flux
>>>>> annihilation-Reconnect EMP phenomenon.  Here is a first step into
>>>>> learning more about the Magnetoelectric effect.  Just build
>>>>> sensors. See attachment.   Now that you have a sensor lets look at
>>>>> the Magnetoelectric (EMP output when you destroy a very powerful
>>>>> neo magnet via rapid explosives.  Remember that energy cannot be
>>>>> destroyed but can convert into another form of energy we call the
>>>>> Magnetoelectric EMP.  See 
>>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explosive-driven_ferromagnetic_generator 
>>>>> This is a direct conversion of powerful magnetic flux field
>>>>> directly into very high power electrical output.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12/30/2018 11:29 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tesla's Pyro generator to which I referred which took advantage
>>>>>> of iron phase shift.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/patents/us-patent-428057-pyromagneto-electric-generator
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Somewhere here we have to jump back and address IONS both positive and negative.  See my 1996 paper for KeelyNet titled WHAT is Heat which dealt with ionization and its potential.  The loss or gain of electrons in the atomic lattice causes the precise predictability of the various phase change points.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is the Bad Boy that I wanted to build using nitrogen gas and an alpha emitter electrodes. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                      What is Heat #2
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For about 10 years I have been studying the effects of
>>>>>>
>>>>>> heating and cooling associated with the phase change of
>>>>>>
>>>>>> liquids with the hope of building a simple generator of
>>>>>>
>>>>>> electrical power around the phenomenon.  The reason for this
>>>>>>
>>>>>> interest is based on the theory that energy can be extracted
>>>>>>
>>>>>> from the ambient background via thermal differentials.  My
>>>>>>
>>>>>> line of thinking really took off back when I experimented
>>>>>>
>>>>>> with the all too familiar Peltier junction devices found in
>>>>>>
>>>>>> electronic cooling devices.  Would you believe that most
>>>>>>
>>>>>> people do not understand how these devices move thermal
>>>>>>
>>>>>> energy through a current flow across a semiconductor
>>>>>>
>>>>>> junction.  Historically we find that German physicist,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thomas Seebeck back in 1820 observed that when heat was
>>>>>>
>>>>>> applied to a junction of copper and steel wire that
>>>>>>
>>>>>> electrical energy resulted.  Later in 1834 Jean Peltier
>>>>>>
>>>>>> discovered that when a direct current was applied to two
>>>>>>
>>>>>> dissimilar metals the junction got hot or cold.  It was not
>>>>>>
>>>>>> until 1838 that Emil Lenz clearly showed the importance of
>>>>>>
>>>>>> both Seebeck and Peltier s discoveries by placing a drop of
>>>>>>
>>>>>> water on the junction of dissimilar metals which froze then
>>>>>>
>>>>>> melted when the polarity of the direct current was
>>>>>>
>>>>>> reversed.  These discoveries remained dormant for over 100
>>>>>>
>>>>>> years because of the unavailability of semiconductor
>>>>>>
>>>>>> materials which could provide the wide temperature
>>>>>>
>>>>>> differentials.  In the 1930 s semiconductor materials became
>>>>>>
>>>>>> available which revived the electric cooling principles.  In
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the 1960 s many companies began building spot cooling
>>>>>>
>>>>>> devices and refrigerators based on these effects using a
>>>>>>
>>>>>> junction material of bismuth-telluride. Today more advanced
>>>>>>
>>>>>> materials are used with the basic parameters of being a pore
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thermal conductor but being an excellent electrical
>>>>>>
>>>>>> conductor. The dissimilar materials must provide a high
>>>>>>
>>>>>> coefficient of voltage temperature relationship.  The first
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Peltier devices that I experimented with back about 10 years
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ago were built by Marlow Industries here in Dallas.   With a
>>>>>>
>>>>>> small temperature differential across the device a weak
>>>>>>
>>>>>> current with an attendant voltage was developed.  Increasing
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the differential provided a proportional increase in current
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and voltage.  About 6 years ago I posted a chart of the
>>>>>>
>>>>>> wattage generated from two different size Peltier chips on
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the KeelyNet BBS.   My curiosity was based on the puzzle of
>>>>>>
>>>>>> how electron flow could move thermal energy across the
>>>>>>
>>>>>> junctions and how electrical energy was produced by moving
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thermal energy across the junction.  This is a directly
>>>>>>
>>>>>> reversible situation based on polarity.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now let us look at a very familiar parallel process used in
>>>>>>
>>>>>> refrigeration, cooling and heating devices employing phase
>>>>>>
>>>>>> change material such as water and refrigerants.  We have
>>>>>>
>>>>>> always been led to believe that evaporating water provided
>>>>>>
>>>>>> cooling effects which is a mechanical process. By the same
>>>>>>
>>>>>> mechanical process we are provided heating effects by the
>>>>>>
>>>>>> condensation of a gas back to a liquid phase change.  Would
>>>>>>
>>>>>> you believe that any material that undergoes a phase change
>>>>>>
>>>>>> provides an attendant electrical effect.   Back in 1840
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Armstrong invented an electrostatic generator based on
>>>>>>
>>>>>> escaping steam through insulated nozzles which provided one
>>>>>>
>>>>>> of the most powerful devices of this type ever built.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Popular belief was that this was a frictional process with
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the electrical output resulting from the steam friction
>>>>>>
>>>>>> passing through the nozzles.   After reading an old (1920 s)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thermodynamics in Chemistry text book I realized that the
>>>>>>
>>>>>> phase change of materials was an electrical phenomenon and
>>>>>>
>>>>>> not purely mechanical.  The atoms of the material lose or
>>>>>>
>>>>>> gain electrons in the process which accounts for the
>>>>>>
>>>>>> discrepancy in the energy equation when a material
>>>>>>
>>>>>> transitions between phases.  More energy is present after
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the phase change back to the lower form or atomic state. The
>>>>>>
>>>>>> text book stated that this phenomenon could not be
>>>>>>
>>>>>> explained.  When Jerry and I attended a Conference hosted by
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hal Puthoff down in Austin back about 6 years ago a
>>>>>>
>>>>>> physicist from Austria presented a paper on the phase change
>>>>>>
>>>>>> of water and the attendant electrical phenomenon which is
>>>>>>
>>>>>> totally not understood by modern science.  Now my suspicions
>>>>>>
>>>>>> were confirmed that phase changes of materials are an
>>>>>>
>>>>>> electrostatic phenomenon, which leads us to the fundamental
>>>>>>
>>>>>> question of, What is heat?    We were told in the school
>>>>>>
>>>>>> that heat is the presence of energy and cool is the absence
>>>>>>
>>>>>> of energy.  What is the form of this energy?  Let us look at
>>>>>>
>>>>>> a very simple example of heating which may explain this
>>>>>>
>>>>>> process.  When sunlight strikes an absorbing surface it is
>>>>>>
>>>>>> heated because electrons in the material are converted to
>>>>>>
>>>>>> photons which are emitted in the infrared band of light
>>>>>>
>>>>>> leaving the material in a net positive state or hot.  The
>>>>>>
>>>>>> more electrons a material looses the hotter it becomes.  Now
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the inverse situation is explored by evaporating some water
>>>>>>
>>>>>> from the surface of a material which leaves the surface in a
>>>>>>
>>>>>> net negative state or cold.  Heat or cold is based on the
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ion relationship in the material.  When we apply a flame
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (ionizing) to a material we cause the emission of photons
>>>>>>
>>>>>> which is basically stripping away electrons from the atomic
>>>>>>
>>>>>> structure causing a gross net positive situation to occur.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now we are getting a picture as to how an electric current
>>>>>>
>>>>>> across the Peltier junction can transport thermal energy
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (ions).  Since the energy is in the form of presence or
>>>>>>
>>>>>> absence of electrons then it is a simple explanation as to
>>>>>>
>>>>>> how the process works.  All phase change processes work the
>>>>>>
>>>>>> same way basically via ion transport and are not mechanical
>>>>>>
>>>>>> processes which we were taught.  Everything in chemistry is
>>>>>>
>>>>>> an electrical or electrostatic process at the atomic level
>>>>>>
>>>>>> based on the ionized state of the atoms involved.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At a Vangard Science Round table discussion several years ago
>>>>>>
>>>>>> we talked about the ion wind method of fire fighting in
>>>>>>
>>>>>> which ionized air will extinguish a flame because of the
>>>>>>
>>>>>> cooling effects.  Now we see Patents issued based on
>>>>>>
>>>>>> negative ion spraying of a surface causing it to rapidly
>>>>>>
>>>>>> cool because it becomes net negative charged.  This is a
>>>>>>
>>>>>> very efficient method of air-conditioning because an ion
>>>>>>
>>>>>> generator operates at very high voltages with very little
>>>>>>
>>>>>> current involved.   It is possible to develop this ion
>>>>>>
>>>>>> transport (thermal energy) to provide direct electrical
>>>>>>
>>>>>> output from very subtle temperature differentials.  Remember
>>>>>>
>>>>>> that this is a direct reversible process where a thermal
>>>>>>
>>>>>> differential will cause a development of current and voltage
>>>>>>
>>>>>> as in the Peltier device.   I hope that this dialog will
>>>>>>
>>>>>> provide some food for thought out there on the KeelyNet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please provide some feedback on this very interesting line
>>>>>>
>>>>>> of experimentation.   Norm
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12/30/2018 10:49 AM, Bob Paddock wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 9:42 AM Norman Wootan <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As molten iron cools past its freezing point of 1538 °C, it crystallizes
>>>>>>> Where would something like the Barkenhausen effect, fit into this
>>>>>>> whole Iron thing?; See Volume-II of the Feynman Lecture on Physics.
>>>>>>> Feynman demonstrates energy generation, at a small scale.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is also "CATER, Joseph: The Awesome Life Force ~ A 1980s classic
>>>>>>> review of alternative sciences (PDF)",
>>>>>>> based on a mixture of conventional and original ideas by Cater.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://rexresearch.com/pdf/CaterAwesomeLifeForce.pdf
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Pg 126 "Nature of Magnetic Fields", pg 167 "Soft Electrons, Magnetic
>>>>>>> fields", pg 204 "Transmission through materials"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> which lead us to pg 256 "THE SELF-SUSTAINING ELECTRIC GENERATOR",
>>>>>>> based on Hubbard's Generator made of Iron shown later in the book.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We also have those that prefer to use metals that were forged
>>>>>>> pre-atomic-blasts in some esoteric devices. ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ��My brain is only a receiver, in the Universe there is a core from which we obtain knowledge, strength and inspiration. I have not penetrated into the secrets of this core, but I know that it exists.”
>>>>>>>> ― Nikola Tesla
>>>>>>> Considered the Raikov Effect or Deep Trance Identification?
>>>>>>>
>

Norm,

Don't forget the proton along with the electron so what is that
releasing, a hydrogen molecule?

Seems plausible and it may not dump Gamma but one sure as hell should
have a neutron counter on hand as they can cause some serious DNA tears,
but hopefully it's only alpha or beta producing during the event.

Can a neo be smacked hard enough by some means to lose it's mags but
only temporarily?  Maybe a gamma or neutron burst will do the same thing
without vaporizing the magnet into oblivion. 


On 12/31/2018 10:13 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> Ole and Mick, I am seeing two ways of the saturation phenomenon. By
> subjecting powerful neo magnetic to a hydro-static pressure of 23gpa
> there is a total disappearance of ferromagnetism and a conversion of
> the stored energy in the fields into electrical energy.  Now I
> understand why Tesla experimented with supersaturation of iron.  In
> recent Scientific and Physics papers we see that fundamental atomic
> lattice structures are altered and lends credence to the idea that
> iron Fe can transition to Mn (down shift in periodic table) at super
> saturation (magnetically) yielding electrons.
>
> On 12/31/2018 8:12 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>  
>>
>> Hi Mick,
>>
>> The NMR is mentioned in another video about trimming or finding
>> resonance. The nonlinear regions around saturation of the magnetizing
>> curve are what are causing ferroresonance. Saturation happens very
>> fast and can be used for making very short pulses. This is the
>> interesting region with its negative inductance characteristic to
>> look for free energy.
>>
>> The big problem is calculating nonlinear circuits.
>>
>> Regards
>> Ole
>>
>>
>>
>> ---In [email protected], <mkjekyll@...> wrote :
>>
>> Ole,
>>
>> The magnet, It was just another guess. I did not know he mentioned NMR. 
>>
>> I think we are all coming very close to the answers with Norm
>> reminding us of the importance of the saturated state iron energy
>> pump.  Just have to find the commonalities of the working systems
>> without becoming overwhelmed.
>>
>> On 12/30/2018 7:01 PM, onielsen@... <mailto:onielsen@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>     kHi Mick,
>>>
>>>     I don't think he use magnets to bias the core. Here is a YouTube
>>>     channel with Akula videos:
>>>     https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCe-rV_geumWg3VXqgZ9pjvw/videos.
>>>     In one of the videos he show that there is an air gap at each
>>>     leg of the ring core (double U-core) made by two small pieces of
>>>     paper. It's the video of the number four lantern where he splits
>>>     it apart at the end. He also shows how to find the NMR of a core
>>>     in one of the videos.
>>>
>>>     If not removing the energy while keeping on adding pulses to the
>>>     primary coil the core will go into saturation. If the output is
>>>     of too low resistance it can't absorb the energy fast enough
>>>     which only increases the magnetization. At some point the
>>>     inductance decreases when the core can't conduct anymore
>>>     magnetic flux.
>>>
>>>     Here is Akula0083's YouTube channel:
>>>     https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2aHNMDJzRW7YDd145_Pa2w/featured.
>>>     To find his free energy videos here go back three to four years
>>>     in the 'VIDEOS' tab.
>>>
>>>     Regards
>>>     Ole
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>     ---In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>,
>>>     <mkjekyll@...> <mailto:mkjekyll@...> wrote :
>>>
>>>     Ole,
>>>
>>>     Maybe he has a neo on the core to get it close to saturation.
>>>
>>>     On 12/30/2018 4:43 PM, onielsen@... <mailto:onielsen@...>
>>>     [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>>>          
>>>>
>>>>         Hi Norman, Mick,
>>>>
>>>>         I wonder if Roman Karnouhov (Akula0083) is driving the core
>>>>         into saturation by a sequence of pulses in his self-runner
>>>>         lanterns. He shows the collector voltage of the output
>>>>         transistor that drives the primary coil in his lantern
>>>>         going negative: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nl9E8F1gOD0
>>>>         (21:58).
>>>>         The auto generated subtitle translation of this video isn't
>>>>         too good. The negative biasing happens while the transistor
>>>>         is supposed to be forward conducting by having positive
>>>>         base signal. The current through the winding isn't shown to
>>>>         actual see what happens. Roman claims the effect to be
>>>>         ferrorresoannce which requires the core to actually
>>>>         saturate. It's also claimed that the rise time of the
>>>>         primary coil signal must be faster than the period of the
>>>>         ferroresonant frequency. Such short pulse periods at this
>>>>         low voltage shouldn't saturate the coil unless it is
>>>>         already biased close to the saturation current. This could
>>>>         actually be the case with the unidirectional succeeding
>>>>         pulses. Roman doesn't show the phasing of the primary to
>>>>         secondary coils. But if the secondary current flows while
>>>>         the primary current is off and the converter runs in
>>>>         continuous mode (i.e. the current never goes to zero) the
>>>>         working point of the magnetization can be put around the
>>>>         saturation level (the knee point of the magnetization
>>>>         curve). This allows storing magnetic energy in the core to
>>>>         be able to saturate it by adding only a small amount of
>>>>         extra energy. This is then done by the very short pulse
>>>>         that saturates the core and thus makes the inductance of
>>>>         the windings almost vanish which increases the current
>>>>         through the windings. Roman calls this the inertia of the
>>>>         current. As the current is always continuous through an
>>>>         inductor (i.e. no jumps are allowed) only the voltage
>>>>         across it can jump or change sign to switch the power
>>>>         direction from absorbing energy to giving off energy. But
>>>>         the voltage across the primary coil doesn't change sign.
>>>>         Instead the voltage across it increases to more than the
>>>>         supply voltage by crossing the ground level (0V). As this
>>>>         voltage is greater than the input voltage the energy can't
>>>>         flow from the voltage supply and thus either must exit the
>>>>         primary winding through the reverse biased transistor or
>>>>         exit through the secondary winding. As we don't know the
>>>>         phasing of the windings the current of the secondary can go
>>>>         through one of the two output diodes (VD3, VD4) to either
>>>>         the LEDs or back to the voltage supply capacitors.
>>>>
>

Ole, I am in total agreement with you on using this mew knowledge of 
magnetic flux conversion to useful energy just as Tesla stated below.  
Yes, all of space and the universe is DYNAMIC/ KINETIC so we do have a 
chance.

The weapons problem stems from the big money dumped into research by the 
Defense Departments of Governments of which big Universities' Research 
Programs thrive. Follow the money.   I firmly believe in the Super Light 
Theory in that this all pervasive energy is super penetrating and has 
all the characteristics of super light.  Super luminal velocities. There 
has been so much written on this subject by those that have gone before 
us.   Thanks!  norm

On 12/31/2018 10:31 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Hi Norman,
>
> I don't think all this new technology should be used for weapons. A 
> better way of using it would be for making our lives better by setting 
> us free.
>
> Magnetic field lines are some late middle age construct and 
> mathematical description of fields. I consider magnetic fields more 
> like some ultra-waves that are all penetrating. These are the waves 
> making up physical matter like in the Rhythmodynamics theory or the 
> theory of W.B. Smith. This way all forces of nature can be unified 
> into the same fundamental fields. When looking at the interference 
> patterns of the waves it may look like lines but they're actually 
> still waves. Thus annihilating magnetic flux lines are actually just 
> changing the interference patterns of the waves.
>
> Source of image: 
> http://psychedelic-information-theory.com/interference-pattern.
>
> What looks like field lines are interference of waves from only two 
> plane wave transmitters. Here is an animated gif of a similar pattern:
>
> https://media.giphy.com/media/3VnrF8u62XQpq/giphy.gif
> Different combination of waves can make up the different elementary 
> particles starting from the electron and positron over quarks (bunches 
> of three electrons) to more complex elementary particles.
>
> The theories behind this are what were known as ether theories 
> requiring some media for transference of the waves or forces. 
> According to transmission line theory (e.g. the theory of Ivor Catt) 
> even the vacuum of space has physical properties like the permittivity 
> and permeability of vacuum indicating that there is something there 
> instead of emptiness. This is shown by what Forrest Bishop terms the 
> forbidden equations. 'The Forbidden Equation: i = qc': 
> https://wiki.naturalphilosophy.org/index.php?title=The_Forbidden_Equation:_i_%3D_qc
>
> Reforming Electromagnetic Units, Equations, and Concepts: An Extension 
> of Ivor Catt Theory:
> https://wiki.naturalphilosophy.org/index.php?title=Reforming_Electromagnetic_Units,_Equations,_and_Concepts:_An_Extension_of_Ivor_Catt_Theory
>
> Regards
> Ole
>
>
>
> ---In [email protected], <nwootan@...> wrote :
>
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directed-energy_weapon This document 
> is a pretty good review of the DEW technology so far.    My prime 
> interest is in the annihilation of magnetic flux which according to 
> the Wired article produces a stream of particles that can be focused 
> and channeled to a target. My question is, What are the particles that 
> composed the magnetic flux before destruction and do they comply with 
> the SUPER LIGHT theory.  Folks, this is whole new ball game if we can 
> create vast energy from directly destroying magnet flux.   Kone, just 
> blow up a few of your 1.5 Tesla one inch cube magnets and have a 
> direct generation of "pressure-induced magnetic phase transition." 
> electric output in KV @ KA.     BTW, this is one for Ole to comment 
> on.  Lol
>
> On 12/30/2018 1:51 PM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>
>>     To add to the info on the Neo magnetic NNEMP weapon, take a look
>>     at this Army doc. https://www.wired.com/2009/03/army-turns-bomb/
>>     In the old Flux compression Generators there was a need for HV
>>     capacitor bank and a long solenoid coil to provide the powerful
>>     magnetic flux field needed to be annihilated which yielded the
>>     EMP (Magneto-electric pulse).  It  reasoned that the new family
>>     of Neo magnets held the necessary flux strength which negated the
>>     heavy capacitors and copper solenoid coil.  With a super fast
>>     explosive , Octanitrocubane  could destroy the Neo's in the
>>     nanosecond range needed for the EMP shot (magnetic flux converted
>>     into particle flux which is the constituents of the magnetic field)
>>
>>     https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octanitrocubane
>>
>>
>>     On 12/30/2018 11:42 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>     <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>>     Remember that my main line of research is the Magnetic flux
>>>     annihilation-Reconnect EMP phenomenon.  Here is a first step
>>>     into learning more about the Magnetoelectric effect.  Just build
>>>     sensors. See attachment. Now that you have a sensor lets look at
>>>     the Magnetoelectric (EMP output when you destroy a very powerful
>>>     neo magnet via rapid explosives.  Remember that energy cannot be
>>>     destroyed but can convert into another form of energy we call
>>>     the Magnetoelectric EMP.  See
>>>     https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explosive-driven_ferromagnetic_generator
>>>     This is a direct conversion of powerful magnetic flux field
>>>     directly into very high power electrical output.
>>>
>>>     On 12/30/2018 11:29 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     Tesla's Pyro generator to which I referred which took advantage
>>>>     of iron phase shift.
>>>>
>>>>     https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/patents/us-patent-428057-pyromagneto-electric-generator
>>>>
>>>>     Somewhere here we have to jump back and address IONS both positive and negative.  See my 1996 paper for KeelyNet titled WHAT is Heat which dealt with ionization and its potential.  The loss or gain of electrons in the atomic lattice causes the precise predictability of the various phase change points.
>>>>
>>>>     This is the Bad Boy that I wanted to build using nitrogen gas and an alpha emitter electrodes.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     What is Heat #2
>>>>
>>>>     For about 10 years I have been studying the effects of
>>>>
>>>>     heating and cooling associated with the phase change of
>>>>
>>>>     liquids with the hope of building a simple generator of
>>>>
>>>>     electrical power around the phenomenon.The reason for this
>>>>
>>>>     interest is based on the theory that energy can be extracted
>>>>
>>>>     from the ambient background via thermal differentials.My
>>>>
>>>>     line of thinking really took off back when I experimented
>>>>
>>>>     with the all too familiar Peltier junction devices found in
>>>>
>>>>     electronic cooling devices.Would you believe that most
>>>>
>>>>     people do not understand how these devices move thermal
>>>>
>>>>     energy through a current flow across a semiconductor
>>>>
>>>>     junction.Historically we find that German physicist,
>>>>
>>>>     Thomas Seebeck back in 1820 observed that when heat was
>>>>
>>>>     applied to a junction of copper and steel wire that
>>>>
>>>>     electrical energy resulted.Later in 1834 Jean Peltier
>>>>
>>>>     discovered that when a direct current was applied to two
>>>>
>>>>     dissimilar metals the junction got hot or cold.It was not
>>>>
>>>>     until 1838 that Emil Lenz clearly showed the importance of
>>>>
>>>>     both Seebeck and Peltier s discoveries by placing a drop of
>>>>
>>>>     water on the junction of dissimilar metals which froze then
>>>>
>>>>     melted when the polarity of the direct current was
>>>>
>>>>     reversed.These discoveries remained dormant for over 100
>>>>
>>>>     years because of the unavailability of semiconductor
>>>>
>>>>     materials which could provide the wide temperature
>>>>
>>>>     differentials.In the 1930 s semiconductor materials became
>>>>
>>>>     available which revived the electric cooling principles.In
>>>>
>>>>     the 1960 s many companies began building spot cooling
>>>>
>>>>     devices and refrigerators based on these effects using a
>>>>
>>>>     junction material of bismuth-telluride. Today more advanced
>>>>
>>>>     materials are used with the basic parameters of being a pore
>>>>
>>>>     thermal conductor but being an excellent electrical
>>>>
>>>>     conductor. The dissimilar materials must provide a high
>>>>
>>>>     coefficient of voltage temperature relationship.The first
>>>>
>>>>     Peltier devices that I experimented with back about 10 years
>>>>
>>>>     ago were built by Marlow Industries here in Dallas.With a
>>>>
>>>>     small temperature differential across the device a weak
>>>>
>>>>     current with an attendant voltage was developed.Increasing
>>>>
>>>>     the differential provided a proportional increase in current
>>>>
>>>>     and voltage.About 6 years ago I posted a chart of the
>>>>
>>>>     wattage generated from two different size Peltier chips on
>>>>
>>>>     the KeelyNet BBS.My curiosity was based on the puzzle of
>>>>
>>>>     how electron flow could move thermal energy across the
>>>>
>>>>     junctions and how electrical energy was produced by moving
>>>>
>>>>     thermal energy across the junction.This is a directly
>>>>
>>>>     reversible situation based on polarity.
>>>>
>>>>     Now let us look at a very familiar parallel process used in
>>>>
>>>>     refrigeration, cooling and heating devices employing phase
>>>>
>>>>     change material such as water and refrigerants.We have
>>>>
>>>>     always been led to believe that evaporating water provided
>>>>
>>>>     cooling effects which is a mechanical process. By the same
>>>>
>>>>     mechanical process we are provided heating effects by the
>>>>
>>>>     condensation of a gas back to a liquid phase change.Would
>>>>
>>>>     you believe that any material that undergoes a phase change
>>>>
>>>>     provides an attendant electrical effect.Back in 1840
>>>>
>>>>     Armstrong invented an electrostatic generator based on
>>>>
>>>>     escaping steam through insulated nozzles which provided one
>>>>
>>>>     of the most powerful devices of this type ever built.
>>>>
>>>>     Popular belief was that this was a frictional process with
>>>>
>>>>     the electrical output resulting from the steam friction
>>>>
>>>>     passing through the nozzles.After reading an old (1920 s)
>>>>
>>>>     Thermodynamics in Chemistry text book I realized that the
>>>>
>>>>     phase change of materials was an electrical phenomenon and
>>>>
>>>>     not purely mechanical.The atoms of the material lose or
>>>>
>>>>     gain electrons in the process which accounts for the
>>>>
>>>>     discrepancy in the energy equation when a material
>>>>
>>>>     transitions between phases.More energy is present after
>>>>
>>>>     the phase change back to the lower form or atomic state. The
>>>>
>>>>     text book stated that this phenomenon could not be
>>>>
>>>>     explained.When Jerry and I attended a Conference hosted by
>>>>
>>>>     Hal Puthoff down in Austin back about 6 years ago a
>>>>
>>>>     physicist from Austria presented a paper on the phase change
>>>>
>>>>     of water and the attendant electrical phenomenon which is
>>>>
>>>>     totally not understood by modern science.Now my suspicions
>>>>
>>>>     were confirmed that phase changes of materials are an
>>>>
>>>>     electrostatic phenomenon, which leads us to the fundamental
>>>>
>>>>     question of, What is heat?We were told in the school
>>>>
>>>>     that heat is the presence of energy and cool is the absence
>>>>
>>>>     of energy.What is the form of this energy?Let us look at
>>>>
>>>>     a very simple example of heating which may explain this
>>>>
>>>>     process.When sunlight strikes an absorbing surface it is
>>>>
>>>>     heated because electrons in the material are converted to
>>>>
>>>>     photons which are emitted in the infrared band of light
>>>>
>>>>     leaving the material in a net positive state or hot.The
>>>>
>>>>     more electrons a material looses the hotter it becomes.Now
>>>>
>>>>     the inverse situation is explored by evaporating some water
>>>>
>>>>     from the surface of a material which leaves the surface in a
>>>>
>>>>     net negative state or cold.Heat or cold is based on the
>>>>
>>>>     ion relationship in the material.When we apply a flame
>>>>
>>>>     (ionizing) to a material we cause the emission of photons
>>>>
>>>>     which is basically stripping away electrons from the atomic
>>>>
>>>>     structure causing a gross net positive situation to occur.
>>>>
>>>>     Now we are getting a picture as to how an electric current
>>>>
>>>>     across the Peltier junction can transport thermal energy
>>>>
>>>>     (ions).Since the energy is in the form of presence or
>>>>
>>>>     absence of electrons then it is a simple explanation as to
>>>>
>>>>     how the process works.All phase change processes work the
>>>>
>>>>     same way basically via ion transport and are not mechanical
>>>>
>>>>     processes which we were taught.Everything in chemistry is
>>>>
>>>>     an electrical or electrostatic process at the atomic level
>>>>
>>>>     based on the ionized state of the atoms involved.
>>>>
>>>>     At a Vangard Science Round table discussion several years ago
>>>>
>>>>     we talked about the ion wind method of fire fighting in
>>>>
>>>>     which ionized air will extinguish a flame because of the
>>>>
>>>>     cooling effects.Now we see Patents issued based on
>>>>
>>>>     negative ion spraying of a surface causing it to rapidly
>>>>
>>>>     cool because it becomes net negative charged.This is a
>>>>
>>>>     very efficient method of air-conditioning because an ion
>>>>
>>>>     generator operates at very high voltages with very little
>>>>
>>>>     current involved.It is possible to develop this ion
>>>>
>>>>     transport (thermal energy) to provide direct electrical
>>>>
>>>>     output from very subtle temperature differentials.Remember
>>>>
>>>>     that this is a direct reversible process where a thermal
>>>>
>>>>     differential will cause a development of current and voltage
>>>>
>>>>     as in the Peltier device.I hope that this dialog will
>>>>
>>>>     provide some food for thought out there on the KeelyNet.
>>>>
>>>>     Please provide some feedback on this very interesting line
>>>>
>>>>     of experimentation.Norm
>>>>
>

Hi Mick,

The NMR is mentioned in another video about trimming or finding resonance. The nonlinear regions around saturation of the magnetizing curve are what are causing ferroresonance. Saturation happens very fast and can be used for making very short pulses. This is the interesting region with its negative inductance characteristic to look for free energy.

The big problem is calculating nonlinear circuits.

Regards
Ole
 

---In [email protected], <mkjekyll@...> wrote :

 Ole,
 The magnet, It was just another guess. I did not know he mentioned NMR.  

 I think we are all coming very close to the answers with Norm reminding us of the importance of the saturated state iron energy pump.  Just have to find the commonalities of the working systems without becoming overwhelmed.

 On 12/30/2018 7:01 PM, onielsen@... mailto:onielsen@... [EVGRAY] wrote:

   kHi Mick,
 
 I don't think he use magnets to bias the core. Here is a YouTube channel with Akula videos: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCe-rV_geumWg3VXqgZ9pjvw/videos https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCe-rV_geumWg3VXqgZ9pjvw/videos.
 In one of the videos he show that there is an air gap at each leg of the ring core (double U-core) made by two small pieces of paper. It's the video of the number four lantern where he splits it apart at the end. He also shows how to find the NMR of a core in one of the videos.
 
 If not removing the energy while keeping on adding pulses to the primary coil the core will go into saturation. If the output is of too low resistance it can't absorb the energy fast enough which only increases the magnetization. At some point the inductance decreases when the core can't conduct anymore magnetic flux.
 
 Here is Akula0083's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2aHNMDJzRW7YDd145_Pa2w/featured https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2aHNMDJzRW7YDd145_Pa2w/featured. To find his free energy videos here go back three to four years in the 'VIDEOS' tab.
 
 Regards
 Ole

 
 
 ---In [email protected] mailto:[email protected], <mkjekyll@...> mailto:mkjekyll@... wrote :
 
 Ole,
 Maybe he has a neo on the core to get it close to saturation.

 On 12/30/2018 4:43 PM, onielsen@... mailto:onielsen@... [EVGRAY] wrote:

   Hi Norman, Mick,
 
 I wonder if Roman Karnouhov (Akula0083) is driving the core into saturation by a sequence of pulses in his self-runner lanterns. He shows the collector voltage of the output transistor that drives the primary coil in his lantern going negative: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nl9E8F1gOD0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nl9E8F1gOD0 (21:58).
 The auto generated subtitle translation of this video isn't too good. The negative biasing happens while the transistor is supposed to be forward conducting by having positive base signal. The current through the winding isn't shown to actual see what happens. Roman claims the effect to be ferrorresoannce which requires the core to actually saturate. It's also claimed that the rise time of the primary coil signal must be faster than the period of the ferroresonant frequency. Such short pulse periods at this low voltage shouldn't saturate the coil unless it is already biased close to the saturation current. This could actually be the case with the unidirectional succeeding pulses. Roman doesn't show the phasing of the primary to secondary coils. But if the secondary current flows while the primary current is off and the converter runs in continuous mode (i.e. the current never goes to zero) the working point of the magnetization can be put around the saturation level (the knee point of the magnetization curve). This allows storing magnetic energy in the core to be able to saturate it by adding only a small amount of extra energy. This is then done by the very short pulse that saturates the core and thus makes the inductance of the windings almost vanish which increases the current through the windings. Roman calls this the inertia of the current. As the current is always continuous through an inductor (i.e. no jumps are allowed) only the voltage across it can jump or change sign to switch the power direction from absorbing energy to giving off energy. But the voltage across the primary coil doesn't change sign. Instead the voltage across it increases to more than the supply voltage by crossing the ground level (0V). As this voltage is greater than the input voltage the energy can't flow from the voltage supply and thus either must exit the primary winding through the reverse biased transistor or exit through the secondary winding. As we don't know the phasing of the windings the current of the secondary can go through one of the two output diodes (VD3, VD4) to either the LEDs or back to the voltage supply capacitors.

Hi Mick,

The theory of Wilbert B. Smith starts from nothing at all like pure emptiness without any space. Then he first builds up the space and fills in some density to construct the fields. The three fundamental fields are then Tempus (field of change) the electric field (divergence) and the magnetic field (curl). After that the fundamental particles (the electron and positron) are build which extends to quarks and other fractions of atoms.

Thus to say which is the most fundamental of E and B it is the electric field E according to Smith. T or the tempic field is even more fundamental as this is the density required for making the electric field (divergence of density) and the electric field is required for making the magnetic field (stirring the electric field). Actually the fields can't be separated from each other as I understand it as the fields are unified into each other as shown by Ivor Catt. This causes trouble for Faraday's law of induction. The scientific society won't touch the theory of Catt even though seen from an engineering point of view it gives solutions instead of paradoxes. But also new problems arise as shown by Forrest Bishop. True science will solve the problems instead of turning away from the problems.

Regards
Ole


---In [email protected], <mkjekyll@...> wrote :

 Norm,
 Hard to say it's the chicken and the egg again. B before the E and H...  OK photons are the current answer according to the link, however what if the B fields were there first, then it would be like magnetic super strings of some kind.  Now would these be particles or just pertubations of the background quiescent aether space flux?  There are the monopole particle theories such as Ed Leedskalnin or Russells magnetic light.  My theory would be a magnetic particle is the inverse of a photon and as such something not presently detectable directly.
 
 On 12/31/2018 8:03 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... mailto:nwootan@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
 
   
 When you set out to research a topic, You have to first define it.    Boy, the jury is still out, so to speak for the experts still do not know the exact composition of magnetic fields or lines of force.  Just just have to laugh. See 
 
 Ohttps://van.physics.illinois.edu/qa/listing.php?id=414
 
 
 Ok, guys, what is your idea as to composition of magnetic flux??
 
 
 
 
 
 On 12/31/2018 5:45 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
 
 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explosive-driven_ferromagnetic_generator https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explosive-driven_ferromagnetic_generator   Source doc. for "pressure-induced magnetic phase transition."
 On 12/31/2018 5:43 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
 
 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directed-energy_weapon https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directed-energy_weapon  This document is a pretty good review of the DEW technology so far.    My prime interest is in the annihilation of magnetic flux which according to the Wired article produces a stream of particles that can be focused and channeled to a target. My question is, What are the particles that composed the magnetic flux before destruction and do they comply with the SUPER LIGHT theory.  Folks, this is whole new ball game if we can create vast energy from directly destroying magnet flux.   Kone, just blow up a few of your 1.5 Tesla one inch cube magnets and have a direct generation of "pressure-induced magnetic phase transition." electric output in KV @ KA.     BTW, this is one for Ole to comment on.  Lol 
 On 12/30/2018 1:51 PM, Norman Wootan wrote:
 
 To add to the info on the Neo magnetic NNEMP weapon, take a look at this Army doc.  https://www.wired.com/2009/03/army-turns-bomb/ https://www.wired.com/2009/03/army-turns-bomb/    In the old Flux compression Generators there was a need for HV capacitor bank and a long solenoid coil to provide the powerful magnetic flux field needed to be annihilated which yielded the EMP (Magneto-electric pulse).  It  reasoned that the new family of Neo magnets held the necessary flux strength which negated the heavy capacitors and copper solenoid coil.  With a super fast explosive , Octanitrocubane  could destroy the Neo's in the nanosecond range needed for the EMP shot (magnetic flux converted into particle flux which is the constituents of the magnetic field)
 
 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octanitrocubane https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octanitrocubane 
 
 
 
 On 12/30/2018 11:42 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... mailto:nwootan@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
 
   
 Remember that my main line of research is the Magnetic flux annihilation-Reconnect EMP phenomenon.  Here is a first step into learning more about the Magnetoelectric effect.  Just build sensors. See attachment.   Now that you have a sensor lets look at the Magnetoelectric (EMP output when you destroy a very powerful neo magnet via rapid explosives.  Remember that energy cannot be destroyed but can convert into another form of energy we call the Magnetoelectric EMP.  See  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explosive-driven_ferromagnetic_generator https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explosive-driven_ferromagnetic_generator  This is a direct conversion of powerful magnetic flux field directly into very high power electrical output.
 
 On 12/30/2018 11:29 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
 
 Tesla's Pyro generator to which I referred which took advantage of iron phase shift.
 
 https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/patents/us-patent-428057-pyromagneto-electric-generator https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/patents/us-patent-428057-pyromagneto-electric-generator

Somewhere here we have to jump back and address IONS both positive and negative.  See my 1996 paper for KeelyNet titled WHAT is Heat which dealt with ionization and its potential.  The loss or gain of electrons in the atomic lattice causes the precise predictability of the various phase change points.

This is the Bad Boy that I wanted to build using nitrogen gas and an alpha emitter electrodes. 





                      What is Heat #2
  
  
  
  
 For about 10 years I have been studying the effects of
 heating and cooling associated with the phase change of
 liquids with the hope of building a simple generator of
 electrical power around the phenomenon.  The reason for this
 interest is based on the theory that energy can be extracted
 from the ambient background via thermal differentials.  My
 line of thinking really took off back when I experimented
 with the all too familiar Peltier junction devices found in
 electronic cooling devices.  Would you believe that most
 people do not understand how these devices move thermal
 energy through a current flow across a semiconductor
 junction.  Historically we find that German physicist,
 Thomas Seebeck back in 1820 observed that when heat was
 applied to a junction of copper and steel wire that
 electrical energy resulted.  Later in 1834 Jean Peltier
 discovered that when a direct current was applied to two
 dissimilar metals the junction got hot or cold.  It was not
 until 1838 that Emil Lenz clearly showed the importance of
 both Seebeck and Peltier s discoveries by placing a drop of
 water on the junction of dissimilar metals which froze then
 melted when the polarity of the direct current was
 reversed.  These discoveries remained dormant for over 100
 years because of the unavailability of semiconductor
 materials which could provide the wide temperature
 differentials.  In the 1930 s semiconductor materials became
 available which revived the electric cooling principles.  In
 the 1960 s many companies began building spot cooling
 devices and refrigerators based on these effects using a
 junction material of bismuth-telluride. Today more advanced
 materials are used with the basic parameters of being a pore
 thermal conductor but being an excellent electrical
 conductor. The dissimilar materials must provide a high
 coefficient of voltage temperature relationship.  The first
 Peltier devices that I experimented with back about 10 years
 ago were built by Marlow Industries here in Dallas.   With a
 small temperature differential across the device a weak
 current with an attendant voltage was developed.  Increasing
 the differential provided a proportional increase in current
 and voltage.  About 6 years ago I posted a chart of the
 wattage generated from two different size Peltier chips on
 the KeelyNet BBS.   My curiosity was based on the puzzle of
 how electron flow could move thermal energy across the
 junctions and how electrical energy was produced by moving
 thermal energy across the junction.  This is a directly
 reversible situation based on polarity.
 Now let us look at a very familiar parallel process used in
 refrigeration, cooling and heating devices employing phase
 change material such as water and refrigerants.  We have
 always been led to believe that evaporating water provided
 cooling effects which is a mechanical process. By the same
 mechanical process we are provided heating effects by the
 condensation of a gas back to a liquid phase change.  Would
 you believe that any material that undergoes a phase change
 provides an attendant electrical effect.   Back in 1840
 Armstrong invented an electrostatic generator based on
 escaping steam through insulated nozzles which provided one
 of the most powerful devices of this type ever built.
 Popular belief was that this was a frictional process with
 the electrical output resulting from the steam friction
 passing through the nozzles.   After reading an old (1920 s)
 Thermodynamics in Chemistry text book I realized that the
 phase change of materials was an electrical phenomenon and
 not purely mechanical.  The atoms of the material lose or
 gain electrons in the process which accounts for the
 discrepancy in the energy equation when a material
 transitions between phases.  More energy is present after
 the phase change back to the lower form or atomic state. The
 text book stated that this phenomenon could not be
 explained.  When Jerry and I attended a Conference hosted by
 Hal Puthoff down in Austin back about 6 years ago a
 physicist from Austria presented a paper on the phase change
 of water and the attendant electrical phenomenon which is
 totally not understood by modern science.  Now my suspicions
 were confirmed that phase changes of materials are an
 electrostatic phenomenon, which leads us to the fundamental
 question of, What is heat?    We were told in the school 
 that heat is the presence of energy and cool is the absence
 of energy.  What is the form of this energy?  Let us look at
 a very simple example of heating which may explain this
 process.  When sunlight strikes an absorbing surface it is
 heated because electrons in the material are converted to
 photons which are emitted in the infrared band of light
 leaving the material in a net positive state or hot.  The
 more electrons a material looses the hotter it becomes.  Now
 the inverse situation is explored by evaporating some water
 from the surface of a material which leaves the surface in a
 net negative state or cold.  Heat or cold is based on the
 ion relationship in the material.  When we apply a flame
 (ionizing) to a material we cause the emission of photons
 which is basically stripping away electrons from the atomic
 structure causing a gross net positive situation to occur.
 Now we are getting a picture as to how an electric current
 across the Peltier junction can transport thermal energy
 (ions).  Since the energy is in the form of presence or
 absence of electrons then it is a simple explanation as to
 how the process works.  All phase change processes work the
 same way basically via ion transport and are not mechanical
 processes which we were taught.  Everything in chemistry is
 an electrical or electrostatic process at the atomic level
 based on the ionized state of the atoms involved.
 At a Vangard Science Round table discussion several years ago
 we talked about the ion wind method of fire fighting in
 which ionized air will extinguish a flame because of the
 cooling effects.  Now we see Patents issued based on
 negative ion spraying of a surface causing it to rapidly
 cool because it becomes net negative charged.  This is a
 very efficient method of air-conditioning because an ion
 generator operates at very high voltages with very little
 current involved.   It is possible to develop this ion
 transport (thermal energy) to provide direct electrical
 output from very subtle temperature differentials.  Remember
 that this is a direct reversible process where a thermal
 differential will cause a development of current and voltage
 as in the Peltier device.   I hope that this dialog will
 provide some food for thought out there on the KeelyNet.
 Please provide some feedback on this very interesting line
 of experimentation.   Norm

Norman, and allYou are right. The money always wants the genius of the day to design weapons.Part of the reason for this is that the money came from hard working people, who may not wanted to part from it, and it was taken from them by the bad guys.The bad guys need weapons because the angry folks who have been ripped off, might come after them, seeking justice.Even Leonardo De Vinci had to design weapons for bad guys.Cheers Warren
 

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  On Mon, 31 Dec 2018 at 12:10 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
 


 
 
Ole, I am in total agreement with you on using this mew knowledge of magnetic flux conversion to useful energy just as Tesla stated below.  Yes, all of space and the universe is DYNAMIC/ KINETIC so we do have a chance.
 
 

 The weapons problem stems from the big money dumped into research by the Defense Departments of Governments of which big Universities' Research Programs thrive.  Follow the money.   I firmly believe in the Super Light Theory in that this all pervasive energy is super penetrating and has all the characteristics of super light.  Super luminal velocities.  There has been so much written on this subject by those that have gone before us.   Thanks!  norm
  
  On 12/31/2018 10:31 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
Hi Norman,
 
 I don't think all this new technology should be used for weapons. A better way of using it would be for making our lives better by setting us free.
 
 Magnetic field lines are some late middle age construct and mathematical description of fields. I consider magnetic fields more like some ultra-waves that are all penetrating. These are the waves making up physical matter like in the Rhythmodynamics theory or the theory of W.B. Smith. This way all forces of nature can be unified into the same fundamental fields. When looking at the interference patterns of the waves it may look like lines but they're actually still waves. Thus annihilating magnetic flux lines are actually just changing the interference patterns of the waves.
 
 Source of image: http://psychedelic-information-theory.com/interference-pattern.
 
 What looks like field lines are interference of waves from only two plane wave transmitters. Here is an animated gif of a similar pattern:
 
 https://media.giphy.com/media/3VnrF8u62XQpq/giphy.gif Different combination of waves can make up the different elementary particles starting from the electron and positron over quarks (bunches of three electrons) to more complex elementary particles.
 
 The theories behind this are what were known as ether theories requiring some media for transference of the waves or forces. According to transmission line theory (e.g. the theory of Ivor Catt) even the vacuum of space has physical properties like the permittivity and permeability of vacuum indicating that there is something there instead of emptiness. This is shown by what Forrest Bishop terms the forbidden equations. 'The Forbidden Equation: i = qc': https://wiki.naturalphilosophy.org/index.php?title=The_Forbidden_Equation:_i_%3D_qc
 
 Reforming Electromagnetic Units, Equations, and Concepts: An Extension of Ivor Catt Theory:
 https://wiki.naturalphilosophy.org/index.php?title=Reforming_Electromagnetic_Units,_Equations,_and_Concepts:_An_Extension_of_Ivor_Catt_Theory
 
 Regards
 Ole
 
 
 
 ---In [email protected], <nwootan@...> wrote :
 
  
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directed-energy_weapon  This document is a pretty good review of the DEW technology so far.    My prime interest is in the annihilation of magnetic flux which according to the Wired article produces a stream of particles that can be focused and channeled to a target. My question is, What are the particles that composed the magnetic flux before destruction and do they comply with the SUPER LIGHT theory.  Folks, this is whole new ball game if we can create vast energy from directly destroying magnet flux.   Kone, just blow up a few of your 1.5 Tesla one inch cube magnets and have a direct generation of "pressure-induced magnetic phase transition." electric output in KV @ KA.     BTW, this is one for Ole to comment on.  Lol 
 On 12/30/2018 1:51 PM, Norman Wootan wrote:
  
 
 
To add to the info on the Neo magnetic NNEMP weapon, take a look at this Army doc.  https://www.wired.com/2009/03/army-turns-bomb/    In the old Flux compression Generators there was a need for HV capacitor bank and a long solenoid coil to provide the powerful magnetic flux field needed to be annihilated which yielded the EMP (Magneto-electric pulse).  It  reasoned that the new family of Neo magnets held the necessary flux strength which negated the heavy capacitors and copper solenoid coil.  With a super fast explosive , Octanitrocubane  could destroy the Neo's in the nanosecond range needed for the EMP shot (magnetic flux converted into particle flux which is the constituents of the magnetic field)
 
 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octanitrocubane 
  
  On 12/30/2018 11:42 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
 
 
Remember that my main line of research is the Magnetic flux annihilation-Reconnect EMP phenomenon.  Here is a first step into learning more about the Magnetoelectric effect.  Just build sensors. See attachment.   Now that you have a sensor lets look at the Magnetoelectric (EMP output when you destroy a very powerful neo magnet via rapid explosives.  Remember that energy cannot be destroyed but can convert into another form of energy we call the Magnetoelectric EMP.  See  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explosive-driven_ferromagnetic_generator  This is a direct conversion of powerful magnetic flux field directly into very high power electrical output.
 
 On 12/30/2018 11:29 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
  
 
Tesla's Pyro generator to which I referred which took advantage of iron phase shift.
 
 https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/patents/us-patent-428057-pyromagneto-electric-generator

Somewhere here we have to jump back and address IONS both positive and negative.  See my 1996 paper for KeelyNet titled WHAT is Heat which dealt with ionization and its potential.  The loss or gain of electrons in the atomic lattice causes the precise predictability of the various phase change points.

This is the Bad Boy that I wanted to build using nitrogen gas and an alpha emitter electrodes. 





 
                     What is Heat #2
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
For about 10 years I have been studying the effects of
 
heating and cooling associated with the phase change of
 
liquids with the hope of building a simple generator of
 
electrical power around the phenomenon.  The reason for this
 
interest is based on the theory that energy can be extracted
 
from the ambient background via thermal differentials.  My
 
line of thinking really took off back when I experimented
 
with the all too familiar Peltier junction devices found in
 
electronic cooling devices.  Would you believe that most
 
people do not understand how these devices move thermal
 
energy through a current flow across a semiconductor
 
junction.  Historically we find that German physicist,
 
Thomas Seebeck back in 1820 observed that when heat was
 
applied to a junction of copper and steel wire that
 
electrical energy resulted.  Later in 1834 Jean Peltier
 
discovered that when a direct current was applied to two
 
dissimilar metals the junction got hot or cold.  It was not
 
until 1838 that Emil Lenz clearly showed the importance of
 
both Seebeck and Peltier s discoveries by placing a drop of
 
water on the junction of dissimilar metals which froze then
 
melted when the polarity of the direct current was
 
reversed.  These discoveries remained dormant for over 100
 
years because of the unavailability of semiconductor
 
materials which could provide the wide temperature
 
differentials.  In the 1930 s semiconductor materials became
 
available which revived the electric cooling principles.  In
 
the 1960 s many companies began building spot cooling
 
devices and refrigerators based on these effects using a
 
junction material of bismuth-telluride. Today more advanced
 
materials are used with the basic parameters of being a pore
 
thermal conductor but being an excellent electrical
 
conductor. The dissimilar materials must provide a high
 
coefficient of voltage temperature relationship.  The first
 
Peltier devices that I experimented with back about 10 years
 
ago were built by Marlow Industries here in Dallas.   With a
 
small temperature differential across the device a weak
 
current with an attendant voltage was developed.  Increasing
 
the differential provided a proportional increase in current
 
and voltage.  About 6 years ago I posted a chart of the
 
wattage generated from two different size Peltier chips on
 
the KeelyNet BBS.   My curiosity was based on the puzzle of
 
how electron flow could move thermal energy across the
 
junctions and how electrical energy was produced by moving
 
thermal energy across the junction.  This is a directly
 
reversible situation based on polarity.
 
Now let us look at a very familiar parallel process used in
 
refrigeration, cooling and heating devices employing phase
 
change material such as water and refrigerants.  We have
 
always been led to believe that evaporating water provided
 
cooling effects which is a mechanical process. By the same
 
mechanical process we are provided heating effects by the
 
condensation of a gas back to a liquid phase change.  Would
 
you believe that any material that undergoes a phase change
 
provides an attendant electrical effect.   Back in 1840
 
Armstrong invented an electrostatic generator based on
 
escaping steam through insulated nozzles which provided one
 
of the most powerful devices of this type ever built.
 
Popular belief was that this was a frictional process with
 
the electrical output resulting from the steam friction
 
passing through the nozzles.   After reading an old (1920 s)
 
Thermodynamics in Chemistry text book I realized that the
 
phase change of materials was an electrical phenomenon and
 
not purely mechanical.  The atoms of the material lose or
 
gain electrons in the process which accounts for the
 
discrepancy in the energy equation when a material
 
transitions between phases.  More energy is present after
 
the phase change back to the lower form or atomic state. The
 
text book stated that this phenomenon could not be
 
explained.  When Jerry and I attended a Conference hosted by
 
Hal Puthoff down in Austin back about 6 years ago a
 
physicist from Austria presented a paper on the phase change
 
of water and the attendant electrical phenomenon which is
 
totally not understood by modern science.  Now my suspicions
 
were confirmed that phase changes of materials are an
 
electrostatic phenomenon, which leads us to the fundamental
 
question of, What is heat?    We were told in the school 
 
that heat is the presence of energy and cool is the absence
 
of energy.  What is the form of this energy?  Let us look at
 
a very simple example of heating which may explain this
 
process.  When sunlight strikes an absorbing surface it is
 
heated because electrons in the material are converted to
 
photons which are emitted in the infrared band of light
 
leaving the material in a net positive state or hot.  The
 
more electrons a material looses the hotter it becomes.  Now
 
the inverse situation is explored by evaporating some water
 
from the surface of a material which leaves the surface in a
 
net negative state or cold.  Heat or cold is based on the
 
ion relationship in the material.  When we apply a flame
 
(ionizing) to a material we cause the emission of photons
 
which is basically stripping away electrons from the atomic
 
structure causing a gross net positive situation to occur.
 
Now we are getting a picture as to how an electric current
 
across the Peltier junction can transport thermal energy
 
(ions).  Since the energy is in the form of presence or
 
absence of electrons then it is a simple explanation as to
 
how the process works.  All phase change processes work the
 
same way basically via ion transport and are not mechanical
 
processes which we were taught.  Everything in chemistry is
 
an electrical or electrostatic process at the atomic level
 
based on the ionized state of the atoms involved.
 
At a Vangard Science Round table discussion several years ago
 
we talked about the ion wind method of fire fighting in
 
which ionized air will extinguish a flame because of the
 
cooling effects.  Now we see Patents issued based on
 
negative ion spraying of a surface causing it to rapidly
 
cool because it becomes net negative charged.  This is a
 
very efficient method of air-conditioning because an ion
 
generator operates at very high voltages with very little
 
current involved.   It is possible to develop this ion
 
transport (thermal energy) to provide direct electrical
 
output from very subtle temperature differentials.  Remember
 
that this is a direct reversible process where a thermal
 
differential will cause a development of current and voltage
 
as in the Peltier device.   I hope that this dialog will
 
provide some food for thought out there on the KeelyNet.
 
Please provide some feedback on this very interesting line
 
of experimentation.   Norm
 
 
 
  
 
 
   
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Ole,

I like Catt's concept of treating components as a transmission line, it
is very elegant for engineering and his capacitor definition is much
more accessible.  Whatever works the best for engineering I am all for. 
As for Wilbur Smith he has some great stuff too but I don't agree that
gravity has it's own particles but rather, more likely, is a result of
the background quiescent aether flux that allows field lines to exist or
propagate.  There are so many little odd anomalies we have no idea about
and I don't think much of the physicists who get paid to create math
problems only they can solve or halfway prove with trillion dollar
research facilities.  The Rythmodynamics is also very special and makes
much more sense when it comes to the aether flux and interference patterns.

I still think we are leaving out something very fundamental and very
difficult to observe from our perspective.  This little function or
parameter or what have you would explain the transitional states we
can't seem to pear into and presently only guess at.

I agree with Dr Tesla's idea of doing ones best with engineering math
but then for instance separating RF transmitter and receivers in real
field tests in order to actually prove something before writing it down
as a gospel.

There has become too large an abyss between theoretical and applied and
I think the research money is going to the wrong one.  But then the
research money goes where the politicos at the think tanks decide it
should, often to the detriment of humans and truth.  Scientists are paid
not to think empirically so it is always refreshing to find one who
still does.

Sadly Norm's applied proofs all come from weapons research because this
planet is run by very lazy people who use the most base animal emotions,
hatred, jealousy and fear in order to motivate and bound capital flow
because it's time proven to work very very well.  If the average person
was brought up respecting science and real accomplishment rather than
childish sports and glamour the human race could evolve rather than
devolve.  For now defense contractors are going to be our best source of
fringe science.  Remember what John Hutchinson said, something to the
effect the civilian scientists and universities were the first to blow
him off but the ones from the military defense contractors took him
seriously enough to come out and have a serious look at things and
patiently listen to him and watch his demos.

On 12/31/2018 11:56 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> Hi Mick,
>
> The theory of Wilbert B. Smith starts from nothing at all like pure
> emptiness without any space. Then he first builds up the space and
> fills in some density to construct the fields. The three fundamental
> fields are then Tempus (field of change) the electric field
> (divergence) and the magnetic field (curl). After that the fundamental
> particles (the electron and positron) are build which extends to
> quarks and other fractions of atoms.
>
> Thus to say which is the most fundamental of E and B it is the
> electric field E according to Smith. T or the tempic field is even
> more fundamental as this is the density required for making the
> electric field (divergence of density) and the electric field is
> required for making the magnetic field (stirring the electric field).
> Actually the fields can't be separated from each other as I understand
> it as the fields are unified into each other as shown by Ivor Catt.
> This causes trouble for Faraday's law of induction. The scientific
> society won't touch the theory of Catt even though seen from an
> engineering point of view it gives solutions instead of paradoxes. But
> also new problems arise as shown by Forrest Bishop. True science will
> solve the problems instead of turning away from the problems.
>
> Regards
> Ole
>
>
> ---In [email protected], <mkjekyll@...> wrote :
>
> Norm,
>
> Hard to say it's the chicken and the egg again. B before the E and
> H...  OK photons are the current answer according to the link, however
> what if the B fields were there first, then it would be like magnetic
> super strings of some kind.  Now would these be particles or just
> pertubations of the background quiescent aether space flux?  There are
> the monopole particle theories such as Ed Leedskalnin or Russells
> magnetic light.  My theory would be a magnetic particle is the inverse
> of a photon and as such something not presently detectable directly.
>
> On 12/31/2018 8:03 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... <mailto:nwootan@...>
> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
>>      
>>
>>     When you set out to research a topic, You have to first define
>>     it.    Boy, the jury is still out, so to speak for the experts
>>     still do not know the exact composition of magnetic fields or
>>     lines of force.  Just just have to laugh. See
>>
>>     Ohttps://van.physics.illinois.edu/qa/listing.php?id=414
>>
>>     Ok, guys, what is your idea as to composition of magnetic flux??
>>
>>
>>     On 12/31/2018 5:45 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>
>>>     https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explosive-driven_ferromagnetic_generator  
>>>     Source doc. for "pressure-induced magnetic phase transition."
>>>
>>>     On 12/31/2018 5:43 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directed-energy_weapon  This
>>>>     document is a pretty good review of the DEW technology so
>>>>     far.    My prime interest is in the annihilation of magnetic
>>>>     flux which according to the Wired article produces a stream of
>>>>     particles that can be focused and channeled to a target. My
>>>>     question is, What are the particles that composed the magnetic
>>>>     flux before destruction and do they comply with the SUPER LIGHT
>>>>     theory.  Folks, this is whole new ball game if we can create
>>>>     vast energy from directly destroying magnet flux.   Kone, just
>>>>     blow up a few of your 1.5 Tesla one inch cube magnets and have
>>>>     a direct generation of "pressure-induced magnetic phase
>>>>     transition." electric output in KV @ KA.     BTW, this is one
>>>>     for Ole to comment on.  Lol
>>>>
>>>>     On 12/30/2018 1:51 PM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>     To add to the info on the Neo magnetic NNEMP weapon, take a
>>>>>     look at this Army doc. 
>>>>>     https://www.wired.com/2009/03/army-turns-bomb/    In the old
>>>>>     Flux compression Generators there was a need for HV capacitor
>>>>>     bank and a long solenoid coil to provide the powerful magnetic
>>>>>     flux field needed to be annihilated which yielded the EMP
>>>>>     (Magneto-electric pulse).  It  reasoned that the new family of
>>>>>     Neo magnets held the necessary flux strength which negated the
>>>>>     heavy capacitors and copper solenoid coil.  With a super fast
>>>>>     explosive , Octanitrocubane  could destroy the Neo's in the
>>>>>     nanosecond range needed for the EMP shot (magnetic flux
>>>>>     converted into particle flux which is the constituents of the
>>>>>     magnetic field)
>>>>>
>>>>>     https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octanitrocubane
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     On 12/30/2018 11:42 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>>     <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>      
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Remember that my main line of research is the Magnetic flux
>>>>>>     annihilation-Reconnect EMP phenomenon.  Here is a first step
>>>>>>     into learning more about the Magnetoelectric effect.  Just
>>>>>>     build sensors. See attachment.   Now that you have a sensor
>>>>>>     lets look at the Magnetoelectric (EMP output when you destroy
>>>>>>     a very powerful neo magnet via rapid explosives.  Remember
>>>>>>     that energy cannot be destroyed but can convert into another
>>>>>>     form of energy we call the Magnetoelectric EMP.  See 
>>>>>>     https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explosive-driven_ferromagnetic_generator 
>>>>>>     This is a direct conversion of powerful magnetic flux field
>>>>>>     directly into very high power electrical output.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     On 12/30/2018 11:29 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Tesla's Pyro generator to which I referred which took
>>>>>>>     advantage of iron phase shift.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/patents/us-patent-428057-pyromagneto-electric-generator
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Somewhere here we have to jump back and address IONS both positive and negative.  See my 1996 paper for KeelyNet titled WHAT is Heat which dealt with ionization and its potential.  The loss or gain of electrons in the atomic lattice causes the precise predictability of the various phase change points.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     This is the Bad Boy that I wanted to build using nitrogen gas and an alpha emitter electrodes. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                          What is Heat #2
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     For about 10 years I have been studying the effects of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     heating and cooling associated with the phase change of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     liquids with the hope of building a simple generator of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     electrical power around the phenomenon.  The reason for this
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     interest is based on the theory that energy can be extracted
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     from the ambient background via thermal differentials.  My
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     line of thinking really took off back when I experimented
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     with the all too familiar Peltier junction devices found in
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     electronic cooling devices.  Would you believe that most
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     people do not understand how these devices move thermal
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     energy through a current flow across a semiconductor
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     junction.  Historically we find that German physicist,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Thomas Seebeck back in 1820 observed that when heat was
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     applied to a junction of copper and steel wire that
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     electrical energy resulted.  Later in 1834 Jean Peltier
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     discovered that when a direct current was applied to two
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     dissimilar metals the junction got hot or cold.  It was not
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     until 1838 that Emil Lenz clearly showed the importance of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     both Seebeck and Peltier s discoveries by placing a drop of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     water on the junction of dissimilar metals which froze then
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     melted when the polarity of the direct current was
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     reversed.  These discoveries remained dormant for over 100
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     years because of the unavailability of semiconductor
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     materials which could provide the wide temperature
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     differentials.  In the 1930 s semiconductor materials became
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     available which revived the electric cooling principles.  In
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     the 1960 s many companies began building spot cooling
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     devices and refrigerators based on these effects using a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     junction material of bismuth-telluride. Today more advanced
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     materials are used with the basic parameters of being a pore
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     thermal conductor but being an excellent electrical
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     conductor. The dissimilar materials must provide a high
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     coefficient of voltage temperature relationship.  The first
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Peltier devices that I experimented with back about 10 years
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     ago were built by Marlow Industries here in Dallas.   With a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     small temperature differential across the device a weak
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     current with an attendant voltage was developed.  Increasing
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     the differential provided a proportional increase in current
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     and voltage.  About 6 years ago I posted a chart of the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     wattage generated from two different size Peltier chips on
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     the KeelyNet BBS.   My curiosity was based on the puzzle of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     how electron flow could move thermal energy across the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     junctions and how electrical energy was produced by moving
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     thermal energy across the junction.  This is a directly
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     reversible situation based on polarity.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Now let us look at a very familiar parallel process used in
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     refrigeration, cooling and heating devices employing phase
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     change material such as water and refrigerants.  We have
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     always been led to believe that evaporating water provided
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     cooling effects which is a mechanical process. By the same
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     mechanical process we are provided heating effects by the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     condensation of a gas back to a liquid phase change.  Would
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     you believe that any material that undergoes a phase change
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     provides an attendant electrical effect.   Back in 1840
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Armstrong invented an electrostatic generator based on
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     escaping steam through insulated nozzles which provided one
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     of the most powerful devices of this type ever built.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Popular belief was that this was a frictional process with
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     the electrical output resulting from the steam friction
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     passing through the nozzles.   After reading an old (1920 s)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Thermodynamics in Chemistry text book I realized that the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     phase change of materials was an electrical phenomenon and
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     not purely mechanical.  The atoms of the material lose or
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     gain electrons in the process which accounts for the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     discrepancy in the energy equation when a material
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     transitions between phases.  More energy is present after
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     the phase change back to the lower form or atomic state. The
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     text book stated that this phenomenon could not be
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     explained.  When Jerry and I attended a Conference hosted by
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Hal Puthoff down in Austin back about 6 years ago a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     physicist from Austria presented a paper on the phase change
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     of water and the attendant electrical phenomenon which is
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     totally not understood by modern science.  Now my suspicions
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     were confirmed that phase changes of materials are an
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     electrostatic phenomenon, which leads us to the fundamental
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     question of, What is heat?    We were told in the school
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     that heat is the presence of energy and cool is the absence
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     of energy.  What is the form of this energy?  Let us look at
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     a very simple example of heating which may explain this
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     process.  When sunlight strikes an absorbing surface it is
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     heated because electrons in the material are converted to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     photons which are emitted in the infrared band of light
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     leaving the material in a net positive state or hot.  The
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     more electrons a material looses the hotter it becomes.  Now
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     the inverse situation is explored by evaporating some water
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     from the surface of a material which leaves the surface in a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     net negative state or cold.  Heat or cold is based on the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     ion relationship in the material.  When we apply a flame
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     (ionizing) to a material we cause the emission of photons
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     which is basically stripping away electrons from the atomic
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     structure causing a gross net positive situation to occur.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Now we are getting a picture as to how an electric current
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     across the Peltier junction can transport thermal energy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     (ions).  Since the energy is in the form of presence or
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     absence of electrons then it is a simple explanation as to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     how the process works.  All phase change processes work the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     same way basically via ion transport and are not mechanical
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     processes which we were taught.  Everything in chemistry is
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     an electrical or electrostatic process at the atomic level
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     based on the ionized state of the atoms involved.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     At a Vangard Science Round table discussion several years ago
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     we talked about the ion wind method of fire fighting in
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     which ionized air will extinguish a flame because of the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     cooling effects.  Now we see Patents issued based on
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     negative ion spraying of a surface causing it to rapidly
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     cool because it becomes net negative charged.  This is a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     very efficient method of air-conditioning because an ion
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     generator operates at very high voltages with very little
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     current involved.   It is possible to develop this ion
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     transport (thermal energy) to provide direct electrical
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     output from very subtle temperature differentials.  Remember
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     that this is a direct reversible process where a thermal
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     differential will cause a development of current and voltage
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     as in the Peltier device.   I hope that this dialog will
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     provide some food for thought out there on the KeelyNet.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Please provide some feedback on this very interesting line
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     of experimentation.   Norm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>
>

Hi all and happy new year!
My measly opinion on magnetic theory is that there are two; , electromagnetism. And permanent magnetism.
Common in both is that they are composed  of ines of magmetic movement like mamy rotating string loops or belts...the direction of this movement creates the polarity. The.lines spin also as they move.
There. is a specific pattern to these lines with thicker lines near to the magnet or eletromagnet and tbinner and more of them further out. There is separation of these lines caused by the resistance of the aether they flow through which causes  alternating reverse spin of these lines through the aether as this spin separates these lines into the observable flux  line pattern
The three forces always together no matter whicb are electricity, magnetism and heat (resistance from the aether to any sort of movement) ...so have  one you get the other two no matter what.
In electro magnetism the electrical field comes first in time, in permanent magnets the magnetic field comes first followed by electrical field and the heat always is behind in time unless faster than speed of light now the heat is in negative region sndele rival and magnetic fields follow in time sequence.
Combining electrical or permanent magnet field either bucking or attracting is whole book of never sing rcperiments...with permanent magnets of Nt42 or N56 strength new chapers to tnis never ending book were and are written daily reinforcing Hector theory and statement that; 
all science is a lie, as a fact stands alone and needs no proof...so if something needs proof to be a scientific fact the fact it need proof means it is only a LIE made up by someones imzgination...
This gets into theWB Smith writings where when it goes deeper and deeper it comes down to consciousness and knowing and human mind related perception and creation and actual knowing
And understanding to make something real...anyways on conclusion what works works and why we have no idea and everything they teach in textbooks turns out wrong ever hundred years
Kone



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Hi Mick
 I have got lots of cold air blowing out,but  some say this is nitrogen in atmosphere reacting to the spinning neodymium magnets since nitrogen a ferrous gas....have never got the frost on coils thing to happen maybe I could with lots of power pumped in or out in a negative time sort of process such as the flyback event amplified perhaps but I don't know..
 Also with bucking coils, I think there can be an instantanoeous-stop to magnetic flow, and resultant electrical flow too, and this can manifest in a faster than speed of light reaction in the colliding corkscrewing flux needing somewhere to go besides where it came from, and so it shoots out the sides of airgap at 90 degrees between coils in a compressed-stopped-released like compressed spring sort of event....this can be played around with and observed with coils and ferrous cores mounted around the bucking coil airgap with cores pointed at the airgap. (AKA splatter pickup coils)
 Anyways sort of a magnetic-flyback event rather than an electrical one....but still electrical since its all related.
 Kone