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Mick! My strange looking cell is nearly identical with this one on
EBay:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Bell-in-vacuum-jar-sound-physics-demonstration-demo-water-boil-air-pressure-New-/381021983760
On 11/9/2018 10:03 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Norm,
>
> That is a strange looking cell it looks like it's upside down and
> maybe made from a water separator for a big diesel engine. I hope you
> show us your SS elemental replication cell in this series. Interesting
> that little cell produced enough oh to make a torch with four quarters
> on each side of one cell!
>
> What were the screws nuts and spacers made from?
> What was the power supply one of those brass looking computer
> switching supply bricks?
>
> Yes I was surprised how much retail Nickel cost when I was looking for
> materials found the cheapest source to be electroplating ingots.
>
> Rosi technology seems to be in perpetual test stages like
> blacklightpower and the rest, all on the soft shoe suppression
> strategy, feed em some money and put it into testing proof of concept
> forever.
>
> On 11/9/2018 4:22 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>> Once upon a time, back in the 80s there was the famous Cold Fusion
>> Debate of which I was a part. There was a Cold Fusion Cell built that
>> used pure nickel for the anode/cathodes., Called a Double Nickel
>> Cell. It happened that Bert Pool & Leslie were going to Canada for a
>> little vacation so Bert brought back Canadian quarters which BTW were
>> pure nickel. I built the below cell to measure anomalous heat
>> output which had been reported. I called it the Octa-Nickel Cell
>> and by using pure nickel elements, it was a huge hydrogen producer.
>> I used Potassium Carbonate for the electrolyte with a 5VDC power
>> supply @ 10 amps to drive the cell and it did deliver the additional
>> heat output over the input wattage as measured by the instrumented
>> enclosure. I burned off the H-H-O produced with the little stainless
>> nozzle shown and it would sublimate tungsten wire in the 10,000
>> degree pink/blue recombination burn. A true sign of atomic
>> hydrogen. A real break through occurred when I took the experiment
>> to a Vanguard Science Meeting to do a report on Cold Fusion. While
>> transporting the cell some of my electrolyte was spilled, so I went
>> to the rest room and got some Dallas tap water to top off the 100ml
>> beaker. When placed into operation, the cell sat there and produced
>> the atomic hydrogen /oxygen gas but the cell temperature was going
>> down below the ambient starting temperature of 78 degrees at start.
>> I was puzzled over how you could be putting in 50 watts of hard DC
>> power and the cell temperature was going down. Demonstration ruined
>> BUT, quite revealing since there was something unusual going on. I
>> suspected that the nickel electrode cell was transmuting the chlorine
>> contaminates in the Dallas tap water. Thus, I built the Elemental
>> Replication Cell which was designed around 316L stainless steel
>> anodes/cathodes cause I could not afford to buy sheet nickel stock.
>> See :
>> http://www.pennstainless.com/stainless-grades/300-series-stainless-steel/316l-stainless-steel/
>> The elemental Replication Phenomenon was verified by other researches
>> in the Tesla Tech Group as reported at the annual meetings by Steve
>> Elswick. Nickel has been shown to be a very powerful catalytic agent
>> in the combustion of diesel/water mix as done by Caterpillar Corp and
>> the auto Industry. See:
>> http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm Bosch Corp. designed
>> ultra high voltage ignition system to burn water fuel combination
>> which BTW had the nickel catalyst present.
>>
>>
>> http://www.detailshere.com/coldfusion.htm
>>
>> http://www.rexresearch.com/millshyd/millshyd.htm
>>
>> http://www.rexresearch.com/rossi/rossi.htm
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPycGwgFW6k
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLbFGAHi9A
>>
>> https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/secret_projects/project112.htm
>>
>> https://coldfusionnow.org/sri-replicates-six-different-types-of-cells/
>>
>> https://phys.org/news/2011-01-italian-scientists-cold-fusion-video.html
>>
>> On 11/8/2018 6:42 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>> I want to prepare some findings on "Catalysts" tomorrow. I need to
>>> pull up some interesting info for you all!
>>>
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>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 4:52 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Norm,
>>>
>>> The catalysts are very interesting. Iron Cobalt and Nickel all
>>> ferromagnetic but at different spins.
>>>
>>> Correct me if I am wrong but based on reading your links a
>>> bingofuel type reactor using tungsten electrodes that hopefully
>>> would last much longer would likely produce OH rather than H and
>>> carbon monoxide, what do you think?
>>>
>>> Also water is strange indeed in that a pyramid or orgone
>>> accumulator changes it and these simple changes could make for
>>> water that breaks up more easily. I would love to know what
>>> results you demonstrated with the totally juvenile memory free
>>> water you put back together from the OH?
>>>
>>> Sorry to hear about your neck fracture, I have a similar issue
>>> and it is extremely painful and debilitating at times.
>>>
>>> Mick
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/7/2018 4:15 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected]
>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11/7/2018 6:06 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Jakob Wall! & all other researchers on here need to read the
>>>>> Whole Story as to why I no longer have a research lab. Jakob,
>>>>> I'm sorry I did not reveal to you the BEST in my opinion of
>>>>> methods of producing hydrogen gas for I felt it was a little
>>>>> too advanced and difficult for you to experiment with. See:
>>>>> https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en . There is
>>>>> a very long story behind this US Patent and a hell of a lot of
>>>>> research. The quest for a very inexpensive method of splitting
>>>>> water has been the Holy Grail of cheap energy. In addition
>>>>> to the research papers and links that I gave to you, here are
>>>>> some more to dwell on.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.researchgate.net/post/At_what_temperature_water_will_decompose_to_Oxygen_and_Hydrogen
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.quora.com/Does-water-break-down-into-oxygen-and-hydrogen-at-high-temperatures-If-so-then-at-what-temperature
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.quora.com/How-much-water-can-you-split-into-hydrogen-and-oxygen-using-electrolysis-with-one-kilowatt-hour-of-electricity
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.redrok.com/hion96a1.htm
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.nature.com/articles/nplants201741 Please read
>>>>> carefully about the play of Nickel in this approach!
>>>>>
>>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_splitting
>>>>>
>>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water-gas_shift_reaction I
>>>>> owned 77 acres of land in Eureka Springs, AR where they still
>>>>> had the old water gas generator and gas storage facility.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decarboxylation
>>>>>
>>>>> https://phys.org/news/2018-02-uncovers-mechanism-water-splitting-catalyst.html
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/new-catalyst-could-split-water-cheaply/
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.technologyreview.com/s/512996/a-cheaper-way-to-make-hydrogen-from-water/
>>>>>
>>>>> "*SUPER STEAM* - A Tesla conference in Colorado surfaces new
>>>>> Super Steam Technology (SST). Leonard Dorsett and friends from
>>>>> Texas share strikingly similar views to Aquarian Agency Ltd.
>>>>> They have technology which produces steam instantly at up to
>>>>> 3,000F without a boiler and with 60% savings in fuel over
>>>>> traditional boilers. Nitrogen rich, it can put out gasoline
>>>>> fires and treat many waste problems. Of major importance to
>>>>> Aquarian, this nitrogen-rich steam will help to produce heat
>>>>> and Aquastone at considerable savings."
>>>>>
>>>>> For further information on Aquarian Agency Ltd. they can be
>>>>> contacted at 38 Weir Rd, Wimbledon, London SW19 SUG, England
>>>>> or on Internet at <aquarian ocign.ape.org>. *_SUPER STEAM
>>>>> TECHNOLOGY PART 2_*
>>>>>
>>>>> Leonard Dorsett (PO Box 365, Grapevine, TX 76092) demonstrated
>>>>> his Super Steam Technology at the 1994 International Tesla
>>>>> Symposium. SST is a system for producing steam at any
>>>>> temperature or pressure independently and instantly without
>>>>> the need for a conventional boiler. It can instantly produce
>>>>> steam of any temperature from hot water at 180F to super
>>>>> heated steam at over 3000F, while pressures can vary from 1PSI
>>>>> to 3000PSI with airflow volumes of 1CFM up to over 2000CFM.
>>>>> The system operates on propane, methane, petrol, kerosene,
>>>>> methanol, diesel, hydrogen or just about anything else that
>>>>> bums and converts virtually 100% of the fuel into usable
>>>>> energy. (Note: The person in the picture is Norman Wootan of
>>>>> MRA fame)
>>>>>
>>>>> This all sounds great, but how does it work? The basis of the
>>>>> unit is a specially designed open throat chamber with
>>>>> controlled air, water and fuel interaction and a high voltage
>>>>> ignition resulting in a direct fire process establishing
>>>>> thermal zones. This creates a stoichiometric condition
>>>>> resulting in a full spectrum of steam product. Now comes the
>>>>> interesting part At the increased temperatures of steam,
>>>>> disassociation occurs. (Could this be a clue to running cars
>>>>> on water??) The hydrogen and oxygen reacts causing an
>>>>> exponential increase of energy resulting in super heated
>>>>> steam. A similar superheat process was addressed by Tesla in
>>>>> the October 12, 1911 publication of the "Engineering News Record".
>>>>>
>>>>> Applications of the SST system include a much more economical
>>>>> way of producing electricity as no conventional boiler is
>>>>> needed. It will also be an ideal low cost method for heating
>>>>> and cooling homes and businesses. Small portable units can be
>>>>> developed for home use, such as steam cleaning, and insect and
>>>>> ant removal, without the dangers of insecticides. The system
>>>>> can also be used for low cost purification of polluted water
>>>>> or sewerage and can also convert salt water into drinking
>>>>> water both quickly and inexpensively. Other uses are in fire
>>>>> fighting applications, ice and snow removal from roads, etc.
>>>>> and sterilization and nurturing of soil for agriculture where
>>>>> contamination has occurred.
>>>>>
>>>>> I had designed a method of making hydrogen from carbon & water
>>>>> vapor using the Tesla Atomic Bombardment method of high
>>>>> frequency inside of spherical inclosure like this experiments
>>>>> with the carbon button lamp globes. After working with
>>>>> Leonard Dorsett and his Super Steam Project, I chose to use
>>>>> the Water Shift Process instead. A side note is needed here!
>>>>> The Super Steam Process was a result of Professor Brown
>>>>> studying the method the German's used for torpedo propulsion
>>>>> from WWI. Acetylene Gas and sea water produced an exothermic
>>>>> reaction generating Super Steam. Brown built several reactors
>>>>> and tested them in the Tulsa area to break (down hole) the
>>>>> parafin deposits to release crude oil.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Chemical equation for the reaction in the US Patent:
>>>>> https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en
>>>>>
>>>>> *(6C + 12 H2O= 6CO2 + 24H) *
>>>>>
>>>>> Hydrogen Reactor Development
>>>>>
>>>>> **
>>>>>
>>>>> Original concept design was a high voltage, high frequency
>>>>> resonant device that utilized carbon water reaction with the
>>>>> feedstock being in the form of graphite rod stock.This unit
>>>>> was designed for vehicle application and had too many
>>>>> limitations to be used for mass hydrogen generation.This type
>>>>> reactor is very effective at hydrogen production since it
>>>>> targets the water vapor molecule at MRI frequencies, which
>>>>> breaks the bonding, allowing the carbon to latch onto the
>>>>> oxygen atoms leaving the hydrogen free. This device was a
>>>>> closed system that used a simple CO2/hydrogen separation stage
>>>>> that enabled the hydrogen to be feed to an internal combustion
>>>>> engine.
>>>>>
>>>>> **
>>>>>
>>>>> *To allow for a sustained high mass flow of hydrogen gas
>>>>> output, reactor design took on a radical change.By
>>>>> incorporating the Ranque/Hilsch, Counter Flow Implosion Vortex
>>>>> Principle, and continuous high mass flow and gas separation
>>>>> were achieved in one stage of operation.Feedstock for this
>>>>> type reactor could be any carbon-based material that could be
>>>>> put into a powder form.Highest carbon content of the feedstock
>>>>> provides for the most efficient hydrogen production with the
>>>>> least undesirable output material.*
>>>>>
>>>>> **
>>>>>
>>>>> *Super high temperature operating regime was chosen to be
>>>>> above 2500 C for the purpose of producing atomic hydrogen in
>>>>> the process.The original reactor operated at temperatures that
>>>>> easily gasified basic carbon into a plasma state (>10,000 F)
>>>>> more easily allowing the production of hydrogen from the
>>>>> stoichiometric feed stock ratios.*
>>>>>
>>>>> *
>>>>> *
>>>>>
>>>>> *alt*
>>>>>
>>>>> I sold one of my Patents (Sonodiffuser) and paid for my 52
>>>>> acres of land and built a 5200 sq. Ft. lab the do the
>>>>> Prototype machining and Proof of Concept testing for GAZPROM,
>>>>> Moscow in 2005. A $1.2 million investment and they got the
>>>>> rights to the process and I got the beautiful Research Lab all
>>>>> paid in full. I was a self employed Contractor in Dallas
>>>>> working with HVAC, Electrical and Electronics Maintenance so
>>>>> had to commute 170 miles/day and only had the week ends for my
>>>>> time! Having to mow grass and maintane the 52 acres took all
>>>>> my time and when I suffered a neck fracture in 2012, had to
>>>>> retire. Liquidated the entire facility and sold it off. Moved
>>>>> to Dallas then to South Louisiana where I now do a lot of
>>>>> relaxing and fishing!
>>>>>
>>>>> Hector and ALL, I did my time in the Barrel so now I will just
>>>>> contribute to the dialog inorder to assist any research you
>>>>> may be doing within my area of experitise! BTW! I have
>>>>> been out to pasture for a long time now, so no BULL offense!
>>>>> As Hector knows, "It fits"! Lol
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> alt
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes! Hector, I will wear my Border Patrol Hat when you come
>>>>> visit from PR! Lol
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/6/2018 8:52 PM, [email protected]
>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> By the way ... i can hit mega millions or the power ball . i
>>>>>> never will not have a lab i can work in, that is worst than
>>>>>> death , you have no idea of the technology that had being
>>>>>> lost by the greedy fucking bastards fucking my life , they
>>>>>> will loose all they have "soon" because it had being
>>>>>> engineered that way by accumulative bad karma, i have another
>>>>>> lab they will never reach or be able to intercept or destroy
>>>>>> and that will decide their fate ..... they will be fucked hard !
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (H)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>,
>>>>>> <mkjekyll@...> <mailto:mkjekyll@...> wrote :
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cmon Hector,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bad taste!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The man had a more serious lab than anyone else here and his
>>>>>> work speaks for itself. Maybe he has gained the fortune he
>>>>>> desired through R&D and now shitting in tall cotton or gone
>>>>>> fishing reaping the rewards of retirement. Notwithstanding is
>>>>>> still kind enough to help point us in the right directions
>>>>>> around here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "*Funny–I can look back on a life of achievement, on
>>>>>> challenges met, competitors bested, obstacles overcome. I’ve
>>>>>> accomplished more than most men, and without the use of my
>>>>>> legs. What?What makes a man, Mr. Lebowski?"*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/6/2018 8:04 AM, arkresearch@...
>>>>>> <mailto:arkresearch@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dar n ! a Scientist inventor with no lab is like a
>>>>>>> breeding bull with no balls !
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Balls Cow GIF - Balls Cow WingDangDoodle GIFs
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ---In [email protected]
>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>, <nwootan@...>
>>>>>>> <mailto:nwootan@...> wrote :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jacob! You asked me a question and I gave you my
>>>>>>> opinion! I'm totally retired at 80 years old and have
>>>>>>> no lab to experiment in! Your quote; I heard once a
>>>>>>> phrase from a researcher who said. '' Slow down boy, we
>>>>>>> get paid for llooking for solutions, not to find
>>>>>>> them!'' That certainly does not apply to me for I have
>>>>>>> shared all with the folks on this site. I find you
>>>>>>> statement very interesting: Technics that use up 10 % of
>>>>>>> a magnet in 24 hours with usual amount of gas looks to
>>>>>>> me extremely inefficient. ?????? Care to share where you
>>>>>>> saw the power of a permanent magnet being used up! We
>>>>>>> all here on this site share what ever knowledge we have
>>>>>>> on the various subjects not seeking any monetary gain in
>>>>>>> any way! That is my approach! I just contribute to the
>>>>>>> dialog when I run across something interesting and think
>>>>>>> it will assist you guys! Norm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11/3/2018 11:32 PM, Jakob Wall wall_jakob@...
>>>>>>> <mailto:wall_jakob@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks Norman,
>>>>>>>> But i actually asced for ''most efficient way'' to
>>>>>>>> split water known to you!
>>>>>>>> I realize there are a lot of different technigues
>>>>>>>> to do just that.
>>>>>>>> And yes i realize you could give me a rather
>>>>>>>> complex answer. But instead i hope for a
>>>>>>>> rather easy and reproductive answer since i am
>>>>>>>> looking forward to solve my enerrgy
>>>>>>>> problems i just can not live with the momentary
>>>>>>>> (sad and very stupid energy situation)
>>>>>>>> I am still not giving up becouse of a couple
>>>>>>>> mistakes and misunderstandings.
>>>>>>>> If i would be a car dealer and you would ask me for
>>>>>>>> a most efficient car available on the market
>>>>>>>> i would for sure not recommend a Prius, since there
>>>>>>>> are a lot of cars with better fuel economie
>>>>>>>> even without being a hybrid and without additional
>>>>>>>> cost like batterys,e-motors and a bunch added ECU's
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours
>>>>>>>> with usual amount of gas looks to me extremely
>>>>>>>> inefficient.
>>>>>>>> Also very expensive HHO-Garage products with output
>>>>>>>> of 1,6 ltr/min.
>>>>>>>> Come on, 6 rusty nails and a old car batery does
>>>>>>>> this job, no need to spend 1600 bucks on it.
>>>>>>>> I honestly expected solide advise or a honest NO
>>>>>>>> way boy, i just talking around.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said.
>>>>>>>> '' Slow down boy, we get paid for llooking for
>>>>>>>> solutions, not to find them!'' That shoked me
>>>>>>>> deeply and even if i get 150 years old, i will not
>>>>>>>> forget it.
>>>>>>>> Thats true treason on mankind and deciving the
>>>>>>>> people. I really hope nobody on this forum only care
>>>>>>>> about what he/she will be doing tomorrow.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jakob
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 10/28/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>>>>> <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY]
>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic
>>>>>>>> Battery
>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>, "Bert Pool"
>>>>>>>> <BertPool512@...> <mailto:BertPool512@...>, "Bob
>>>>>>>> Paddock" <bob.paddock@...>
>>>>>>>> <mailto:bob.paddock@...>, "joel mcclain"
>>>>>>>> <joel_76670@...> <mailto:joel_76670@...>, "Jon
>>>>>>>> Gentry" <jongen422@...> <mailto:jongen422@...>,
>>>>>>>> "Mbking42" <mbking42@...> <mailto:mbking42@...>,
>>>>>>>> "Toby Grotz" <wireless2@...>
>>>>>>>> <mailto:wireless2@...>, "Phil Rembold"
>>>>>>>> <prembold@...> <mailto:prembold@...>, "Angel
>>>>>>>> Alvarez" <angel@...> <mailto:angel@...>, "Fredric
>>>>>>>> Fletcher" <ffletcher@...> <mailto:ffletcher@...>
>>>>>>>> Received: Sunday, October 28, 2018, 9:44 AM
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jacob! That would be a rather complex answer
>>>>>>>> but here is your
>>>>>>>> starting point!
>>>>>>>> https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct-thermomagnetic-splitting-of-water-.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> After having been heavily involved in the COLD FUSION
>>>>>>>> Research
>>>>>>>> back in the 70s and 80s I quickly settled o0n the best
>>>>>>>> catalyst in
>>>>>>>> electrolytic cells which is pure nickel. I still have
>>>>>>>> the cell
>>>>>>>> used in the Elemental Replication experiments.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm
>>>>>>>> The hidden
>>>>>>>> part of this research is the use of a nickel component
>>>>>>>> in the
>>>>>>>> combustion chamber. Bosch developed 90,000V ignition
>>>>>>>> systems to
>>>>>>>> enable water injection in gas engine which high
>>>>>>>> lighted the
>>>>>>>> Graneau HV decomposition of water via HVDC
>>>>>>>> discharge!
>>>>>>>> My magnetic Battery when run as an electrolytic cell
>>>>>>>> to produce
>>>>>>>> hydrogen does produce a huge amount of hydrogen gas as
>>>>>>>> shown by
>>>>>>>> the Dr. Ehrenhaft document. I would tell you to
>>>>>>>> pursue the super
>>>>>>>> high Tesla magnetic flux and nickel electrodes in an
>>>>>>>> electrolytic
>>>>>>>> cell. The major obstacle to be overcome is the rapid
>>>>>>>> collection
>>>>>>>> of ions from solution by the 1.3 Tesla flux across a
>>>>>>>> .020"
>>>>>>>> mechanical gap which quickly takes the cell into a
>>>>>>>> super-conduction mode which takes out the driving DC
>>>>>>>> power supply.
>>>>>>>> You can flush the magnetic gaps with distilled water
>>>>>>>> and the gaps
>>>>>>>> will show in the meg-ohm range then go to zero ohms
>>>>>>>> after a short
>>>>>>>> period of running, the gathered ions totally short
>>>>>>>> cell. During
>>>>>>>> the brief runs there is a huge amount of hydrogen gas
>>>>>>>> produced
>>>>>>>> which I burned off as it was generated. Much can be
>>>>>>>> said about
>>>>>>>> driving the cell with high frequencies as the Myers
>>>>>>>> research
>>>>>>>> showed. Our friend up in Canada at George Wiseman,
>>>>>>>> Eagle Research
>>>>>>>> is running well ahead of the crowd on the production
>>>>>>>> of H-H-O.
>>>>>>>> Just for giggles!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 16 October
>>>>>>>> 1996
>>>>>>>> To: Hal
>>>>>>>> Fox, Fusion Facts
>>>>>>>> Elemental
>>>>>>>> Replication ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Around mid
>>>>>>>> September
>>>>>>>> I put together an
>>>>>>>> electrolysis cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold
>>>>>>>> Fusion Cell
>>>>>>>> with the goal of
>>>>>>>> exploring the possibilities of making what is
>>>>>>>> termed “Pristine
>>>>>>>> Water”. This water
>>>>>>>> which will be used by Homeopaths
>>>>>>>> will have had all memory or information
>>>>>>>> removed. This is accomplished by
>>>>>>>> recombining monatomic
>>>>>>>> hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated in a
>>>>>>>> properly
>>>>>>>> designed cell. This is
>>>>>>>> the ultimate in purity since this is
>>>>>>>> water with conditions at the time of original
>>>>>>>> creation. “Holly Water”is a term
>>>>>>>> coined by my dear
>>>>>>>> friend and fellow researcher Joe Tyls of
>>>>>>>> Vancouver, BC. After several weeks of
>>>>>>>> successful operation
>>>>>>>> producing water that had all the earmarks of a
>>>>>>>> true “pristine
>>>>>>>> water” a fellow
>>>>>>>> researcher suggested using an alternate
>>>>>>>> electrolyte. A solution was selected
>>>>>>>> that contained 77
>>>>>>>> colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the
>>>>>>>> easiest
>>>>>>>> assimilated into the
>>>>>>>> body. With the
>>>>>>>> electrolyte changed the
>>>>>>>> cell was put back into operation as before with a
>>>>>>>> nice
>>>>>>>> recombination burn and
>>>>>>>> production of the sought after “pristine
>>>>>>>> water”.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> After about an
>>>>>>>> hour of
>>>>>>>> operation the cell
>>>>>>>> went absolutely “nuts” with the temperature
>>>>>>>> rapidly climbing
>>>>>>>> to boiling point
>>>>>>>> and the current out of sight.
>>>>>>>> When the
>>>>>>>> cell was opened we found a deep red sludge deposit
>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>> shorted the cell
>>>>>>>> plates. Our first
>>>>>>>> thought was that the
>>>>>>>> electrolytic action precipitated out the colloidal
>>>>>>>> minerals
>>>>>>>> which caused the
>>>>>>>> deposit found. The
>>>>>>>> electrolyte was allowed
>>>>>>>> to settle out the
>>>>>>>> precipitate. After
>>>>>>>> decanting off, the clear electrolyte
>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>> returned to the
>>>>>>>> cell for another run. Again the cell operated
>>>>>>>> normally for
>>>>>>>> about an hour with a
>>>>>>>> normal recombination burn and recovery of the
>>>>>>>> water being
>>>>>>>> consumed by the cell
>>>>>>>> in the splitting action. Again
>>>>>>>> the cell
>>>>>>>> temperature and current mirrored the first
>>>>>>>> run.
>>>>>>>> Again the cell contained the same amount of
>>>>>>>> sludge
>>>>>>>> residue. This process
>>>>>>>> was repeated ten (10) times
>>>>>>>> with exactly the same results.
>>>>>>>> All of
>>>>>>>> the sludge was carefully dried and weighed on an
>>>>>>>> electronic
>>>>>>>> scale with a five
>>>>>>>> decimal
>>>>>>>> resolution.
>>>>>>>> The cell plates and all hardware were
>>>>>>>> weighed to
>>>>>>>> determine any loss of
>>>>>>>> mass that may contribute to the mass gain observed
>>>>>>>> in the
>>>>>>>> sludge. Five hundred
>>>>>>>> (500) ml of the original
>>>>>>>> electrolyte solution used in the cell was vacuum
>>>>>>>> distilled to
>>>>>>>> determine the
>>>>>>>> exact mass of colloidal minerals
>>>>>>>> contained.
>>>>>>>> When all factors were considered we came
>>>>>>>> out with a
>>>>>>>> mass gain of 48 gm
>>>>>>>> which cannot be explained by
>>>>>>>> conventional
>>>>>>>> electrolysis.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> After talking
>>>>>>>> to Dr.
>>>>>>>> Robert Bass and Hal
>>>>>>>> Fox I learned of a patent that has been filed on
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> transmutation of elements
>>>>>>>> in the cold fusion cell which is the process that
>>>>>>>> Dr. John
>>>>>>>> Bockris has been so
>>>>>>>> active in. Both Dr.
>>>>>>>> Bass and Hal Fox
>>>>>>>> stated that what I was observing is not the same
>>>>>>>> as the
>>>>>>>> transmutation observed
>>>>>>>> in the cold fusion cell since I have a overall
>>>>>>>> mass gain and
>>>>>>>> not a lateral
>>>>>>>> movement of elements in the periodic table toward
>>>>>>>> lighter
>>>>>>>> elements with a
>>>>>>>> resulting heat release. This
>>>>>>>> unusual
>>>>>>>> cell operation has caused quite a reaction in the
>>>>>>>> scientific
>>>>>>>> community. At this
>>>>>>>> time I have built a complete new cell
>>>>>>>> with every possible factor which could possibly
>>>>>>>> explain the
>>>>>>>> mass gain
>>>>>>>> considered and documented. The
>>>>>>>> ten (10)
>>>>>>>> consecutive runs on the new cell will be completed
>>>>>>>> soon and a
>>>>>>>> report will be
>>>>>>>> forthcoming. What is
>>>>>>>> interesting about
>>>>>>>> this phenomenon is that when an eleventh run was
>>>>>>>> made with the
>>>>>>>> original
>>>>>>>> electrolyte exactly the same amount of residue was
>>>>>>>> recovered
>>>>>>>> as in the previous
>>>>>>>> ten
>>>>>>>> runs.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Since
>>>>>>>> the same electrolyte is reused each time with only
>>>>>>>> distilled
>>>>>>>> water being added
>>>>>>>> to replace the volume lost by the removal of the
>>>>>>>> solids and
>>>>>>>> the water recovered
>>>>>>>> by the recombination burn we are hard pressed to
>>>>>>>> explain the
>>>>>>>> observed
>>>>>>>> phenomenon. The
>>>>>>>> electrolyte appears
>>>>>>>> stronger in mineral concentration and shows no
>>>>>>>> sign of
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> depletion.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> After conferring
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> Joe Tyls we arrived at
>>>>>>>> the conclusion that the 77 colloidal minerals
>>>>>>>> contained in the
>>>>>>>> electrolyte
>>>>>>>> provide the atomic templates needed for the
>>>>>>>> monatomic hydrogen
>>>>>>>> (father of all
>>>>>>>> the elements) to replicate selected elements in
>>>>>>>> this exotic
>>>>>>>> mixture. If you
>>>>>>>> subscribe to the theories of the late
>>>>>>>> Walter Russell and his explanation of the octave
>>>>>>>> based
>>>>>>>> periodic table with
>>>>>>>> monatonic hydrogen being what he describes as
>>>>>>>> hydrons
>>>>>>>> (precursor to hydrogen)
>>>>>>>> then it is possible for the replication of
>>>>>>>> elements directly
>>>>>>>> from energy input
>>>>>>>> alone. This is how all
>>>>>>>> matter was
>>>>>>>> created in the beginning as described by
>>>>>>>> Schappeller in “The
>>>>>>>> Physics of the
>>>>>>>> Primary State of Matter”. I
>>>>>>>> will keep
>>>>>>>> all informed as to our progress and findings in
>>>>>>>> this very
>>>>>>>> intriguing venture.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Norman
>>>>>>>> Wootan
>>>>>>>> P.O.
>>>>>>>> Box 141049
>>>>>>>> Dallas,
>>>>>>>> TX 75214
>>>>>>>> (214)
>>>>>>>> 360-0865
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> CC: Gene Mallove,
>>>>>>>> Infinite
>>>>>>>> Energy
>>>>>>>> CC: Dr. John
>>>>>>>> Bockris, Texas
>>>>>>>> A/M
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 10/28/2018 1:01 AM,
>>>>>>>> Jakob Wall
>>>>>>>> wall_jakob@... <mailto:wall_jakob@...>
>>>>>>>> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks Norman,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> BTW, what is the most effective water split
>>>>>>>> device that
>>>>>>>> you ever put you hands on?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As HHO researcher for dekades you should be
>>>>>>>> able to point
>>>>>>>> us directly to the most effective known!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please be specific about reconstruction of the
>>>>>>>> same, since
>>>>>>>> we are in public domain it will become public
>>>>>>>> knowledge
>>>>>>>> and public good. I assume you intend nothing
>>>>>>>> else,rigth ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 10/27/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>>>>> <mailto:nwootan@...>
>>>>>>>> [EVGRAY]
>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's
>>>>>>>> Magnetic
>>>>>>>> Battery [3 Attachments]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To: "Bert Pool" <BertPool512@...>
>>>>>>>> <mailto:BertPool512@...>,
>>>>>>>> "Bob
>>>>>>>> Paddock" <bob.paddock@...> <mailto:bob.paddock@...>,
>>>>>>>> "joel mcclain"
>>>>>>>> <joel_76670@...> <mailto:joel_76670@...>,
>>>>>>>> "Jon Gentry"
>>>>>>>> <jongen422@...> <mailto:jongen422@...>,
>>>>>>>> "Lane Wootan"
>>>>>>>> <lanewootan@...> <mailto:lanewootan@...>,
>>>>>>>> "Mbking42"
>>>>>>>> <mbking42@...> <mailto:mbking42@...>,
>>>>>>>> "Toby Grotz"
>>>>>>>> <wireless2@...> <mailto:wireless2@...>,
>>>>>>>> "Phil Rembold"
>>>>>>>> <prembold@...> <mailto:prembold@...>,
>>>>>>>> "Angel Alvarez"
>>>>>>>> <angel@...> <mailto:angel@...>,
>>>>>>>> "Fredric Fletcher"
>>>>>>>> <ffletcher@...> <mailto:ffletcher@...>,
>>>>>>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To understand the unwinding of a thread
>>>>>>>> leading
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> to Magnetic
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Generating Hydrogen and this Magnetic Battery,
>>>>>>>> we have
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> to dust off
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> our 9th grade Chemistry Books!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.rexresearch.com/ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I guess Dr.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ehrenhaft was the first to propose a Magnetic
>>>>>>>> Current.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (Jon
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Gentry, Your liquid metal vortex helix).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://revolution-green.com/can-electrolysis-powered-magnets/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ah! Ha! more on Magnetic Currents!!!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.labmanager.com/white-papers-and-application-notes/2010/05/resistivity-conductivity-measurement-of-purified-water#.W9So9uJRc2w
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.askiitians.com/forums/Physical-Chemistry/19/19074/electro-che
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpotential
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.quora.com/Why-is-oxygen-molecule-paramagnetic-although-it-does-not-contain-any-unpaired-electron
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251580541_The_effect_of_magnetic_force_on_hydrogen_production_efficiency_in_water_electrolysis
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.physicscentral.com/experiment/physicsathome/electricwhirlpool.cfm
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.linux-host.org/energy/bmagpump.htm
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Now Jon Gentry you have your liquid metal pump
>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> that you can
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> make the helix tube Vortex!
>>>>>>>> Ferricpetacarbonyl or
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> micro fine neo
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> powder to provide the liquid metal for pump
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> circuit.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Lots of reading here! Please think
>>>>>>>> about the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ramifications of
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> a Magnetic Current as proposed by Dr.
>>>>>>>> Ehrenhaft!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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