Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery [2 Attachments]

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Ah a bell jar OK thought it looked really familiar!

On 11/12/2018 5:26 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> Mick!  My strange looking cell is nearly identical with this one on
> EBay: 
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Bell-in-vacuum-jar-sound-physics-demonstration-demo-water-boil-air-pressure-New-/381021983760
>
> On 11/9/2018 10:03 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>  
>>
>> Norm,
>>
>> That is a strange looking cell it looks like it's upside down and
>> maybe made from a water separator for a big diesel engine.  I hope
>> you show us your SS elemental replication cell in this series.
>> Interesting that little cell produced enough oh to make a torch with
>> four quarters on each side of one cell!
>>
>> What were the screws nuts and spacers made from?
>> What was the power supply one of those brass looking computer
>> switching supply bricks?
>>
>> Yes I was surprised how much retail Nickel cost when I was looking
>> for materials found the cheapest source to be electroplating ingots.
>>
>> Rosi technology seems to be in perpetual test stages like
>> blacklightpower and the rest, all on the soft shoe suppression
>> strategy, feed em some money and put it into testing proof of concept
>> forever.
>>
>> On 11/9/2018 4:22 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>  
>>>
>>> Once upon a time, back in the 80s there was the famous Cold Fusion
>>> Debate of which I was a part.  There was a Cold Fusion Cell built
>>> that used pure nickel for the anode/cathodes., Called a Double
>>> Nickel Cell.  It happened that Bert Pool & Leslie were going to
>>> Canada for a little vacation so Bert brought back Canadian quarters
>>> which BTW were pure nickel.   I built the below cell to measure 
>>> anomalous heat output which had been reported.   I called it the
>>> Octa-Nickel Cell and by using pure nickel elements, it was a huge
>>> hydrogen producer.  I used Potassium Carbonate for the electrolyte
>>> with a 5VDC power supply @ 10 amps to drive the cell and it did
>>> deliver the additional heat output over the input wattage as
>>> measured by the instrumented enclosure. I burned off the H-H-O
>>> produced with the little stainless nozzle shown and it would
>>> sublimate tungsten wire in the 10,000 degree pink/blue recombination
>>> burn.  A true sign of atomic hydrogen.   A real break through
>>> occurred when I took the experiment to a Vanguard Science Meeting to
>>> do a report on Cold Fusion.  While transporting the cell some of my
>>> electrolyte was spilled, so I went to the rest room and got some
>>> Dallas tap water to top off the 100ml beaker. When placed into
>>> operation, the cell sat there and produced the atomic hydrogen
>>> /oxygen gas but the cell temperature was going down below the
>>> ambient starting temperature of 78 degrees at start.  I was puzzled
>>> over how you could be putting in 50 watts of hard DC power and the
>>> cell temperature was going down.  Demonstration ruined BUT, quite
>>> revealing since there was something unusual going on. I suspected
>>> that the nickel electrode cell was transmuting the chlorine
>>> contaminates in the Dallas tap water.  Thus, I built the Elemental
>>> Replication Cell which was designed around 316L stainless steel
>>> anodes/cathodes cause I could not afford to buy sheet nickel stock.
>>> See :
>>> http://www.pennstainless.com/stainless-grades/300-series-stainless-steel/316l-stainless-steel/   
>>> The elemental Replication Phenomenon was verified by other
>>> researches in the Tesla Tech Group as reported at the annual
>>> meetings by Steve Elswick.  Nickel has been shown to be a very
>>> powerful catalytic agent in the combustion of diesel/water mix as
>>> done by Caterpillar Corp and the auto Industry.  See:
>>> http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm   Bosch Corp.
>>> designed ultra high voltage ignition system to burn water fuel
>>> combination which BTW had the nickel catalyst present.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.detailshere.com/coldfusion.htm
>>>
>>> http://www.rexresearch.com/millshyd/millshyd.htm
>>>
>>> http://www.rexresearch.com/rossi/rossi.htm
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPycGwgFW6k
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLbFGAHi9A
>>>
>>> https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/secret_projects/project112.htm
>>>
>>> https://coldfusionnow.org/sri-replicates-six-different-types-of-cells/
>>>
>>> https://phys.org/news/2011-01-italian-scientists-cold-fusion-video.html
>>>
>>> On 11/8/2018 6:42 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> I want to prepare some findings on "Catalysts" tomorrow. I need to
>>>> pull up some interesting info for you all!
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>     On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 4:52 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]
>>>>     <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>      
>>>>
>>>>     Hi Norm,
>>>>
>>>>     The catalysts are very interesting.  Iron Cobalt and Nickel all
>>>>     ferromagnetic but at different spins.
>>>>
>>>>     Correct me if I am wrong but based on reading your links a
>>>>     bingofuel type reactor using tungsten electrodes that hopefully
>>>>     would last much longer would likely produce OH rather than H
>>>>     and carbon monoxide, what do you think?
>>>>
>>>>     Also water is strange indeed in that a pyramid or orgone
>>>>     accumulator changes it and these simple changes could make for
>>>>     water that breaks up more easily.  I would love to know what
>>>>     results you demonstrated with the totally juvenile memory free
>>>>     water you put back together from the OH? 
>>>>
>>>>     Sorry to hear about your neck fracture, I have a similar issue
>>>>     and it is extremely painful and debilitating at times.
>>>>
>>>>     Mick
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     On 11/7/2018 4:15 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected]
>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>      
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     On 11/7/2018 6:06 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Jakob Wall! & all other researchers on here need to read the
>>>>>>     Whole Story as to why I no longer have a research lab. 
>>>>>>     Jakob, I'm sorry I did not reveal to you the BEST in my
>>>>>>     opinion of methods of producing hydrogen gas for I felt it
>>>>>>     was a little too advanced and difficult for you to experiment
>>>>>>     with.  See: https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en
>>>>>>     .   There is a very long story behind this US Patent and a
>>>>>>     hell of a lot of research. The quest for a very inexpensive
>>>>>>     method of splitting water has been the Holy Grail of  cheap
>>>>>>     energy.   In addition to the research papers and links that I
>>>>>>     gave to you, here are some more to dwell on.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     https://www.researchgate.net/post/At_what_temperature_water_will_decompose_to_Oxygen_and_Hydrogen
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     https://www.quora.com/Does-water-break-down-into-oxygen-and-hydrogen-at-high-temperatures-If-so-then-at-what-temperature
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     https://www.quora.com/How-much-water-can-you-split-into-hydrogen-and-oxygen-using-electrolysis-with-one-kilowatt-hour-of-electricity
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     http://www.redrok.com/hion96a1.htm
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     https://www.nature.com/articles/nplants201741   Please read
>>>>>>     carefully about the play of Nickel in this approach!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_splitting
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water-gas_shift_reaction    I
>>>>>>     owned 77 acres of land in Eureka Springs, AR where they still
>>>>>>     had the old water gas generator and gas storage facility.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decarboxylation
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     https://phys.org/news/2018-02-uncovers-mechanism-water-splitting-catalyst.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/new-catalyst-could-split-water-cheaply/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     https://www.technologyreview.com/s/512996/a-cheaper-way-to-make-hydrogen-from-water/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     "*SUPER STEAM* - A Tesla conference in Colorado surfaces new
>>>>>>     Super Steam Technology (SST). Leonard Dorsett and friends
>>>>>>     from Texas share strikingly similar views to Aquarian Agency
>>>>>>     Ltd. They have technology which produces steam instantly at
>>>>>>     up to 3,000F without a boiler and with 60% savings in fuel
>>>>>>     over traditional boilers. Nitrogen rich, it can put out
>>>>>>     gasoline fires and treat many waste problems. Of major
>>>>>>     importance to Aquarian, this nitrogen-rich steam will help to
>>>>>>     produce heat and Aquastone at considerable savings."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     For further information on Aquarian Agency Ltd. they can be
>>>>>>     contacted at 38 Weir Rd, Wimbledon, London SW19 SUG, England
>>>>>>     or on Internet at <aquarian ocign.ape.org>. *_SUPER STEAM
>>>>>>     TECHNOLOGY PART 2_*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Leonard Dorsett (PO Box 365, Grapevine, TX 76092)
>>>>>>     demonstrated his Super Steam Technology at the 1994
>>>>>>     International Tesla Symposium. SST is a system for producing
>>>>>>     steam at any temperature or pressure independently and
>>>>>>     instantly without the need for a conventional boiler. It can
>>>>>>     instantly produce steam of any temperature from hot water at
>>>>>>     180F to super heated steam at over 3000F, while pressures can
>>>>>>     vary from 1PSI to 3000PSI with airflow volumes of 1CFM up to
>>>>>>     over 2000CFM. The system operates on propane, methane,
>>>>>>     petrol, kerosene, methanol, diesel, hydrogen or just about
>>>>>>     anything else that bums and converts virtually 100% of the
>>>>>>     fuel into usable energy. (Note: The person in the picture is
>>>>>>     Norman Wootan of MRA fame)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     This all sounds great, but how does it work? The basis of the
>>>>>>     unit is a specially designed open throat chamber with
>>>>>>     controlled air, water and fuel interaction and a high voltage
>>>>>>     ignition resulting in a direct fire process establishing
>>>>>>     thermal zones. This creates a stoichiometric condition
>>>>>>     resulting in a full spectrum of steam product. Now comes the
>>>>>>     interesting part At the increased temperatures of steam,
>>>>>>     disassociation occurs. (Could this be a clue to running cars
>>>>>>     on water??) The hydrogen and oxygen reacts causing an
>>>>>>     exponential increase of energy resulting in super heated
>>>>>>     steam. A similar superheat process was addressed by Tesla in
>>>>>>     the October 12, 1911 publication of the "Engineering News
>>>>>>     Record".
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Applications of the SST system include a much more economical
>>>>>>     way of producing electricity as no conventional boiler is
>>>>>>     needed. It will also be an ideal low cost method for heating
>>>>>>     and cooling homes and businesses. Small portable units can be
>>>>>>     developed for home use, such as steam cleaning, and insect
>>>>>>     and ant removal, without the dangers of insecticides. The
>>>>>>     system can also be used for low cost purification of polluted
>>>>>>     water or sewerage and can also convert salt water into
>>>>>>     drinking water both quickly and inexpensively. Other uses are
>>>>>>     in fire fighting applications, ice and snow removal from
>>>>>>     roads, etc. and sterilization and nurturing of soil for
>>>>>>     agriculture where contamination has occurred.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     I had designed a method of making hydrogen from carbon &
>>>>>>     water vapor using the Tesla Atomic Bombardment method of high
>>>>>>     frequency inside of spherical inclosure like this experiments
>>>>>>     with the carbon button lamp globes.   After working with
>>>>>>     Leonard Dorsett and his Super Steam Project, I chose to use
>>>>>>     the Water Shift Process instead.  A side note is needed
>>>>>>     here!  The Super Steam Process was a result of Professor
>>>>>>     Brown studying the method the German's used for torpedo
>>>>>>     propulsion from WWI.  Acetylene Gas and sea water produced an
>>>>>>     exothermic reaction generating Super Steam. Brown built
>>>>>>     several reactors and tested them in the Tulsa area to break
>>>>>>     (down hole) the parafin deposits to release crude oil.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     The Chemical equation for the reaction in the US Patent:
>>>>>>     https://patents.google.com/patent/US7097676B2/en
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     *(6C + 12 H2O  = 6CO2 + 24H) *
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Hydrogen Reactor Development
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     * *
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Original concept design was a high voltage, high frequency
>>>>>>     resonant device that utilized carbon water reaction with the
>>>>>>     feedstock being in the form of graphite rod stock.  This unit
>>>>>>     was designed for vehicle application and had too many
>>>>>>     limitations to be used for mass hydrogen generation.  This
>>>>>>     type reactor is very effective at hydrogen production since
>>>>>>     it targets the water vapor molecule at MRI frequencies, which
>>>>>>     breaks the bonding, allowing the carbon to latch onto the
>>>>>>     oxygen atoms leaving the hydrogen free. This device was a
>>>>>>     closed system that used a simple CO2/hydrogen separation
>>>>>>     stage that enabled the hydrogen to be feed to an internal
>>>>>>     combustion engine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     * *
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     *To allow for a sustained high mass flow of hydrogen gas
>>>>>>     output, reactor design took on a radical change.  By
>>>>>>     incorporating the Ranque/Hilsch, Counter Flow Implosion
>>>>>>     Vortex Principle, and continuous high mass flow and gas
>>>>>>     separation were achieved in one stage of operation. 
>>>>>>     Feedstock for this type reactor could be any carbon-based
>>>>>>     material that could be put into a powder form.  Highest
>>>>>>     carbon content of the feedstock provides for the most
>>>>>>     efficient hydrogen production with the least undesirable
>>>>>>     output material.*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     * *
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     *Super high temperature operating regime was chosen to be
>>>>>>     above 2500 C for the purpose of producing atomic hydrogen in
>>>>>>     the process.  The original reactor operated at temperatures
>>>>>>     that easily gasified basic carbon into a plasma state
>>>>>>     (>10,000 F) more easily allowing the production of hydrogen
>>>>>>     from the stoichiometric feed stock ratios.*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     *
>>>>>>     *
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     *alt*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     I sold one of my Patents (Sonodiffuser) and paid for my 52
>>>>>>     acres of land and built a 5200 sq. Ft. lab the do the
>>>>>>     Prototype machining and Proof of Concept testing for GAZPROM,
>>>>>>     Moscow in 2005. A $1.2 million investment and they got the
>>>>>>     rights to the process and I got the beautiful Research Lab
>>>>>>     all paid in full. I was a self employed Contractor in Dallas
>>>>>>     working with HVAC, Electrical and Electronics Maintenance so
>>>>>>     had to commute 170 miles/day and only had the week ends for
>>>>>>     my time! Having to mow grass and maintane the 52 acres took
>>>>>>     all my time and when I suffered a neck fracture in 2012, had
>>>>>>     to retire. Liquidated the entire facility and sold it off.
>>>>>>     Moved to Dallas then to South Louisiana where I now do a lot
>>>>>>     of relaxing and fishing!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Hector and ALL, I did my time in the Barrel so now I will
>>>>>>     just contribute to the dialog inorder to assist any research
>>>>>>     you may be doing within my area of experitise!     BTW! I
>>>>>>     have been out to pasture for a long time now, so no BULL
>>>>>>     offense!  As Hector knows, "It fits"! Lol
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     alt
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Yes! Hector, I will wear my Border Patrol Hat when you come
>>>>>>     visit from PR!  Lol
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     On 11/6/2018 8:52 PM, [email protected]
>>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     By the way ... i can hit mega millions or the power ball  .
>>>>>>>     i never will not have a lab i can work in,  that is worst
>>>>>>>     than death , you have no idea of the technology that had
>>>>>>>     being lost by the greedy fucking bastards fucking my life ,
>>>>>>>     they will loose all they have  "soon" because it had being
>>>>>>>     engineered that way by accumulative bad karma, i have
>>>>>>>     another lab they will never reach or be able to intercept or
>>>>>>>     destroy and that will decide their fate ..... they will be
>>>>>>>     fucked hard !
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     (H)   
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     ---In [email protected]
>>>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]>, <mkjekyll@...>
>>>>>>>     <mailto:mkjekyll@...> wrote :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Cmon Hector,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Bad taste!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     The man had a more serious lab than anyone else here and his
>>>>>>>     work speaks for itself.  Maybe he has gained the fortune he
>>>>>>>     desired through R&D and now shitting in tall cotton or gone
>>>>>>>     fishing reaping the rewards of retirement. Notwithstanding
>>>>>>>     is still kind enough to help point us in the right
>>>>>>>     directions around here.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     "*Funny–I can look back on a life of achievement, on
>>>>>>>     challenges met, competitors bested, obstacles overcome. I’ve
>>>>>>>     accomplished more than most men, and without the use of my
>>>>>>>     legs. What?What makes a man, Mr. Lebowski?"*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     On 11/6/2018 8:04 AM, arkresearch@...
>>>>>>>     <mailto:arkresearch@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>          
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         Dar n ! a Scientist inventor with no lab is like a
>>>>>>>>         breeding bull with no balls !
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         Balls Cow GIF - Balls Cow WingDangDoodle GIFs
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         ---In [email protected]
>>>>>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]>, <nwootan@...>
>>>>>>>>         <mailto:nwootan@...> wrote :
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         Jacob! You asked me a question and I gave you my
>>>>>>>>         opinion!  I'm totally retired at 80 years old and have
>>>>>>>>         no lab to experiment in!  Your quote; I heard once a
>>>>>>>>         phrase from a researcher who said. '' Slow down boy, we
>>>>>>>>         get paid for llooking for solutions, not to find
>>>>>>>>         them!''   That certainly does not apply to me for I
>>>>>>>>         have shared all with the folks on this site.  I find
>>>>>>>>         you statement very interesting:  Technics that use up
>>>>>>>>         10 % of a magnet in 24 hours with usual amount of gas
>>>>>>>>         looks to me extremely inefficient.   ??????        Care
>>>>>>>>         to share where you saw the power of a permanent magnet
>>>>>>>>         being used up!   We all here on this site share what
>>>>>>>>         ever knowledge we have on the various subjects not
>>>>>>>>         seeking any monetary gain in any way! That is my
>>>>>>>>         approach!   I just contribute to the dialog when I run
>>>>>>>>         across something interesting and think it will assist
>>>>>>>>         you guys!   Norm
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         On 11/3/2018 11:32 PM, Jakob Wall wall_jakob@...
>>>>>>>>         <mailto:wall_jakob@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             Thanks Norman,
>>>>>>>>>             But i actually asced for ''most efficient way'' to
>>>>>>>>>             split water known to you!
>>>>>>>>>             I realize there are a lot of different technigues
>>>>>>>>>             to do just that.
>>>>>>>>>             And yes i realize you could give me a rather
>>>>>>>>>             complex answer. But instead i hope for a
>>>>>>>>>             rather easy and reproductive answer since i am
>>>>>>>>>             looking forward to solve my enerrgy
>>>>>>>>>             problems i just can not live with the momentary
>>>>>>>>>             (sad and very stupid energy situation)
>>>>>>>>>             I am still not giving up becouse of a couple
>>>>>>>>>             mistakes and misunderstandings.
>>>>>>>>>             If i would be a car dealer and you would ask me
>>>>>>>>>             for a most efficient car available on the market
>>>>>>>>>             i would for sure not recommend a Prius, since
>>>>>>>>>             there are a lot of cars with better fuel economie
>>>>>>>>>             even without being a hybrid and without additional
>>>>>>>>>             cost like batterys,e-motors and a bunch added ECU's
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours
>>>>>>>>>             with usual amount of gas looks to me extremely
>>>>>>>>>             inefficient.
>>>>>>>>>             Also very expensive HHO-Garage products with
>>>>>>>>>             output of 1,6 ltr/min.
>>>>>>>>>             Come on, 6 rusty nails and a old car batery does
>>>>>>>>>             this job, no need to spend 1600 bucks on it.
>>>>>>>>>             I honestly expected solide advise or a honest NO
>>>>>>>>>             way boy, i just talking around.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said.
>>>>>>>>>             '' Slow down boy, we get paid for llooking for
>>>>>>>>>             solutions, not to find them!'' That shoked me
>>>>>>>>>             deeply and even if i get 150 years old, i will not
>>>>>>>>>             forget it.
>>>>>>>>>             Thats true treason on mankind and deciving the
>>>>>>>>>             people. I really hope nobody on this forum only care
>>>>>>>>>             about what he/she will be doing tomorrow.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             Jakob
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             --------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>             On Sun, 10/28/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>>>>>>             <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY]
>>>>>>>>>             <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>             <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's
>>>>>>>>>             Magnetic Battery
>>>>>>>>>             To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>             <mailto:[email protected]>, "Bert Pool"
>>>>>>>>>             <BertPool512@...> <mailto:BertPool512@...>, "Bob
>>>>>>>>>             Paddock" <bob.paddock@...>
>>>>>>>>>             <mailto:bob.paddock@...>, "joel mcclain"
>>>>>>>>>             <joel_76670@...> <mailto:joel_76670@...>, "Jon
>>>>>>>>>             Gentry" <jongen422@...> <mailto:jongen422@...>,
>>>>>>>>>             "Mbking42" <mbking42@...> <mailto:mbking42@...>,
>>>>>>>>>             "Toby Grotz" <wireless2@...>
>>>>>>>>>             <mailto:wireless2@...>, "Phil Rembold"
>>>>>>>>>             <prembold@...> <mailto:prembold@...>, "Angel
>>>>>>>>>             Alvarez" <angel@...> <mailto:angel@...>, "Fredric
>>>>>>>>>             Fletcher" <ffletcher@...> <mailto:ffletcher@...>
>>>>>>>>>             Received: Sunday, October 28, 2018, 9:44 AM
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             Jacob!  That would be a rather complex answer
>>>>>>>>>             but here is your
>>>>>>>>>             starting point!
>>>>>>>>>             https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct-thermomagnetic-splitting-of-water-.html   
>>>>>>>>>             After having been heavily involved in the COLD FUSION
>>>>>>>>>             Research
>>>>>>>>>             back in the 70s and 80s I quickly settled o0n the best
>>>>>>>>>             catalyst in
>>>>>>>>>             electrolytic cells which is pure nickel. I still have
>>>>>>>>>             the cell
>>>>>>>>>             used in the Elemental Replication experiments.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm    
>>>>>>>>>             The hidden
>>>>>>>>>             part of this research is the use of a nickel component
>>>>>>>>>             in the
>>>>>>>>>             combustion chamber. Bosch developed 90,000V ignition
>>>>>>>>>             systems to
>>>>>>>>>             enable water injection in gas engine which high
>>>>>>>>>             lighted the
>>>>>>>>>             Graneau HV decomposition of water via HVDC
>>>>>>>>>             discharge!
>>>>>>>>>             My magnetic Battery when run as an electrolytic cell
>>>>>>>>>             to produce
>>>>>>>>>             hydrogen does produce a huge amount of hydrogen gas as
>>>>>>>>>             shown by
>>>>>>>>>             the Dr. Ehrenhaft document.  I would tell you to
>>>>>>>>>             pursue the super
>>>>>>>>>             high Tesla magnetic flux and nickel electrodes in an
>>>>>>>>>             electrolytic
>>>>>>>>>             cell.  The major obstacle to be overcome is the rapid
>>>>>>>>>             collection
>>>>>>>>>             of ions from solution by the 1.3 Tesla flux across a
>>>>>>>>>             .020"
>>>>>>>>>             mechanical gap which quickly takes the cell into a
>>>>>>>>>             super-conduction mode which takes out the driving DC
>>>>>>>>>             power supply.
>>>>>>>>>             You can flush the magnetic gaps with distilled water
>>>>>>>>>             and the gaps
>>>>>>>>>             will show in the meg-ohm range then go to zero ohms
>>>>>>>>>             after a short
>>>>>>>>>             period of running, the gathered ions totally short
>>>>>>>>>             cell. During
>>>>>>>>>             the brief runs there is a huge amount of hydrogen gas
>>>>>>>>>             produced 
>>>>>>>>>             which I burned off as it was generated.  Much can be
>>>>>>>>>             said about
>>>>>>>>>             driving the cell with high frequencies as the Myers
>>>>>>>>>             research
>>>>>>>>>             showed.  Our friend up in Canada at George Wiseman,
>>>>>>>>>             Eagle Research
>>>>>>>>>             is running well ahead of the crowd on the production
>>>>>>>>>             of H-H-O.
>>>>>>>>>             Just for giggles!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             16 October
>>>>>>>>>             1996
>>>>>>>>>             To: Hal
>>>>>>>>>             Fox,  Fusion Facts
>>>>>>>>>             Elemental
>>>>>>>>>             Replication ?
>>>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>>>                   Around mid
>>>>>>>>>             September
>>>>>>>>>             I put together an
>>>>>>>>>             electrolysis cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold
>>>>>>>>>             Fusion Cell
>>>>>>>>>             with the goal of
>>>>>>>>>             exploring the possibilities of making what is
>>>>>>>>>             termed “Pristine
>>>>>>>>>             Water”.   This water
>>>>>>>>>             which will be used by Homeopaths
>>>>>>>>>             will have had all memory or information
>>>>>>>>>             removed.  This is accomplished by
>>>>>>>>>             recombining monatomic
>>>>>>>>>             hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated in a
>>>>>>>>>             properly
>>>>>>>>>             designed cell.  This is
>>>>>>>>>             the ultimate in purity since this is
>>>>>>>>>             water with conditions at the time of original
>>>>>>>>>             creation.  “Holly Water”is a term
>>>>>>>>>             coined by my dear
>>>>>>>>>             friend and fellow researcher Joe Tyls of
>>>>>>>>>             Vancouver, BC.   After several weeks of
>>>>>>>>>             successful operation
>>>>>>>>>             producing water that had all the earmarks of a
>>>>>>>>>             true “pristine
>>>>>>>>>             water” a fellow
>>>>>>>>>             researcher suggested using an alternate
>>>>>>>>>             electrolyte.   A solution was selected
>>>>>>>>>             that contained 77
>>>>>>>>>             colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the
>>>>>>>>>             easiest
>>>>>>>>>             assimilated into the
>>>>>>>>>             body.   With the
>>>>>>>>>             electrolyte changed the
>>>>>>>>>             cell was put back into operation as before with a
>>>>>>>>>             nice
>>>>>>>>>             recombination burn and
>>>>>>>>>             production of the sought after “pristine
>>>>>>>>>             water”.                                                                                                                                     
>>>>>>>>>                    
>>>>>>>>>                 After about an
>>>>>>>>>             hour of
>>>>>>>>>             operation the cell
>>>>>>>>>             went absolutely “nuts” with the temperature
>>>>>>>>>             rapidly climbing
>>>>>>>>>             to boiling point
>>>>>>>>>             and the current out of sight. 
>>>>>>>>>             When the
>>>>>>>>>             cell was opened we found a deep red sludge deposit
>>>>>>>>>             which
>>>>>>>>>             shorted the cell
>>>>>>>>>             plates.   Our first
>>>>>>>>>             thought was that the
>>>>>>>>>             electrolytic action precipitated out the colloidal
>>>>>>>>>             minerals
>>>>>>>>>             which caused the
>>>>>>>>>             deposit found.   The 
>>>>>>>>>             electrolyte was allowed
>>>>>>>>>             to settle out the
>>>>>>>>>             precipitate.   After 
>>>>>>>>>             decanting off,  the clear electrolyte
>>>>>>>>>             was
>>>>>>>>>             returned to the
>>>>>>>>>             cell for another run. Again the cell operated
>>>>>>>>>             normally for
>>>>>>>>>             about an hour with a
>>>>>>>>>             normal recombination burn and recovery of the
>>>>>>>>>             water being
>>>>>>>>>             consumed by the cell
>>>>>>>>>             in the splitting action.   Again
>>>>>>>>>             the cell
>>>>>>>>>             temperature and current mirrored the first
>>>>>>>>>             run. 
>>>>>>>>>             Again the cell contained the same amount of
>>>>>>>>>             sludge
>>>>>>>>>             residue.   This process
>>>>>>>>>             was repeated ten (10) times
>>>>>>>>>             with exactly the same results.  
>>>>>>>>>             All of
>>>>>>>>>             the sludge was carefully dried and weighed on an
>>>>>>>>>             electronic
>>>>>>>>>             scale with a five
>>>>>>>>>             decimal
>>>>>>>>>             resolution.                     
>>>>>>>>>             The cell plates and all hardware were
>>>>>>>>>             weighed to
>>>>>>>>>             determine any loss of
>>>>>>>>>             mass that may contribute to the mass gain observed
>>>>>>>>>             in the
>>>>>>>>>             sludge.  Five hundred
>>>>>>>>>             (500) ml of the original
>>>>>>>>>             electrolyte solution used in the cell was vacuum
>>>>>>>>>             distilled to
>>>>>>>>>             determine the
>>>>>>>>>             exact mass of colloidal minerals
>>>>>>>>>             contained. 
>>>>>>>>>             When all factors were considered we came
>>>>>>>>>             out with a
>>>>>>>>>             mass gain of  48 gm
>>>>>>>>>             which cannot be explained by
>>>>>>>>>             conventional
>>>>>>>>>             electrolysis.                      
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                 After talking
>>>>>>>>>             to Dr.
>>>>>>>>>             Robert Bass and Hal
>>>>>>>>>             Fox I learned of a patent that has been filed on
>>>>>>>>>             the
>>>>>>>>>             transmutation of elements
>>>>>>>>>             in the cold fusion cell which is the process that
>>>>>>>>>             Dr. John
>>>>>>>>>             Bockris has been so
>>>>>>>>>             active in.   Both Dr.
>>>>>>>>>             Bass and Hal Fox
>>>>>>>>>             stated that what I was observing is not the same
>>>>>>>>>             as the
>>>>>>>>>             transmutation observed
>>>>>>>>>             in the cold fusion cell since I have a overall
>>>>>>>>>             mass gain and
>>>>>>>>>             not a lateral
>>>>>>>>>             movement of elements in the periodic table toward
>>>>>>>>>             lighter
>>>>>>>>>             elements with a
>>>>>>>>>             resulting heat release.  This
>>>>>>>>>             unusual
>>>>>>>>>             cell operation has caused quite a reaction in the
>>>>>>>>>             scientific
>>>>>>>>>             community.  At this
>>>>>>>>>             time I have built a complete new cell
>>>>>>>>>             with every possible factor which could possibly
>>>>>>>>>             explain the
>>>>>>>>>             mass gain
>>>>>>>>>             considered and documented.  The
>>>>>>>>>             ten (10)
>>>>>>>>>             consecutive runs on the new cell will be completed
>>>>>>>>>             soon and a
>>>>>>>>>             report will be
>>>>>>>>>             forthcoming.   What is
>>>>>>>>>             interesting about
>>>>>>>>>             this phenomenon is that when an eleventh run was
>>>>>>>>>             made with the
>>>>>>>>>             original
>>>>>>>>>             electrolyte exactly the same amount of residue was
>>>>>>>>>             recovered
>>>>>>>>>             as in the previous
>>>>>>>>>             ten
>>>>>>>>>             runs.                                                                       
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>>>             Since
>>>>>>>>>             the same electrolyte is reused each time with only
>>>>>>>>>             distilled
>>>>>>>>>             water being added
>>>>>>>>>             to replace the volume lost by the removal of the
>>>>>>>>>             solids and
>>>>>>>>>             the water recovered
>>>>>>>>>             by the recombination burn we are hard pressed to
>>>>>>>>>             explain the
>>>>>>>>>             observed
>>>>>>>>>             phenomenon.     The
>>>>>>>>>             electrolyte appears
>>>>>>>>>             stronger in mineral concentration and shows no
>>>>>>>>>             sign of
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             depletion.                                
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                After conferring
>>>>>>>>>             with
>>>>>>>>>             Joe Tyls we arrived at
>>>>>>>>>             the conclusion that the 77 colloidal minerals
>>>>>>>>>             contained in the
>>>>>>>>>             electrolyte
>>>>>>>>>             provide the atomic templates needed for the
>>>>>>>>>             monatomic hydrogen
>>>>>>>>>             (father of all
>>>>>>>>>             the elements) to replicate selected elements in
>>>>>>>>>             this exotic
>>>>>>>>>             mixture.  If you
>>>>>>>>>             subscribe to the theories of the late
>>>>>>>>>             Walter Russell and his explanation of the octave
>>>>>>>>>             based
>>>>>>>>>             periodic table with
>>>>>>>>>             monatonic hydrogen being what he describes as
>>>>>>>>>             hydrons
>>>>>>>>>             (precursor to hydrogen)
>>>>>>>>>             then it is possible for the replication of
>>>>>>>>>             elements directly
>>>>>>>>>             from energy input
>>>>>>>>>             alone.  This is how all
>>>>>>>>>             matter was
>>>>>>>>>             created in the beginning as described by
>>>>>>>>>             Schappeller in “The
>>>>>>>>>             Physics of the
>>>>>>>>>             Primary State of Matter”.    I
>>>>>>>>>             will keep
>>>>>>>>>             all informed as to our progress and findings in
>>>>>>>>>             this very
>>>>>>>>>             intriguing venture.
>>>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>>>             Norman
>>>>>>>>>             Wootan
>>>>>>>>>             P.O.
>>>>>>>>>             Box 141049
>>>>>>>>>             Dallas,
>>>>>>>>>             TX 75214
>>>>>>>>>             (214)
>>>>>>>>>             360-0865
>>>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>>>             CC:  Gene Mallove,
>>>>>>>>>             Infinite
>>>>>>>>>             Energy
>>>>>>>>>             CC:  Dr. John
>>>>>>>>>             Bockris, Texas
>>>>>>>>>             A/M
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             On 10/28/2018 1:01 AM,
>>>>>>>>>             Jakob Wall
>>>>>>>>>             wall_jakob@... <mailto:wall_jakob@...>
>>>>>>>>>             [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             Thanks Norman,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             BTW, what is the most effective water split
>>>>>>>>>             device that
>>>>>>>>>             you ever put you hands on?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             As HHO researcher for dekades you should be
>>>>>>>>>             able to point
>>>>>>>>>             us directly to the most effective known!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             Please be specific about reconstruction of the
>>>>>>>>>             same, since
>>>>>>>>>             we are in public domain it will become public
>>>>>>>>>             knowledge
>>>>>>>>>             and public good. I assume you intend nothing
>>>>>>>>>             else,rigth ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             --------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             On Sat, 10/27/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>>>>>>>             <mailto:nwootan@...>
>>>>>>>>>             [EVGRAY]
>>>>>>>>>             <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>             <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>             wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's
>>>>>>>>>             Magnetic
>>>>>>>>>             Battery [3 Attachments]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             To: "Bert Pool" <BertPool512@...>
>>>>>>>>>             <mailto:BertPool512@...>,
>>>>>>>>>             "Bob
>>>>>>>>>             Paddock" <bob.paddock@...> <mailto:bob.paddock@...>,
>>>>>>>>>             "joel mcclain"
>>>>>>>>>             <joel_76670@...> <mailto:joel_76670@...>,
>>>>>>>>>             "Jon Gentry"
>>>>>>>>>             <jongen422@...> <mailto:jongen422@...>,
>>>>>>>>>             "Lane Wootan"
>>>>>>>>>             <lanewootan@...> <mailto:lanewootan@...>,
>>>>>>>>>             "Mbking42"
>>>>>>>>>             <mbking42@...> <mailto:mbking42@...>,
>>>>>>>>>             "Toby Grotz"
>>>>>>>>>             <wireless2@...> <mailto:wireless2@...>,
>>>>>>>>>             "Phil Rembold"
>>>>>>>>>             <prembold@...> <mailto:prembold@...>,
>>>>>>>>>             "Angel Alvarez"
>>>>>>>>>             <angel@...> <mailto:angel@...>,
>>>>>>>>>             "Fredric Fletcher"
>>>>>>>>>             <ffletcher@...> <mailto:ffletcher@...>,
>>>>>>>>>             [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             To understand the unwinding of a thread
>>>>>>>>>             leading
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             to Magnetic
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             Generating Hydrogen and this Magnetic Battery,
>>>>>>>>>             we have
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             to dust off
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             our  9th grade Chemistry Books!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             http://www.rexresearch.com/ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm     
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             I guess Dr.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             Ehrenhaft was the first to propose a Magnetic
>>>>>>>>>             Current.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             (Jon
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             Gentry, Your liquid metal vortex helix).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             https://revolution-green.com/can-electrolysis-powered-magnets/      
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             Ah! Ha!  more on Magnetic Currents!!!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446.html
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             https://www.labmanager.com/white-papers-and-application-notes/2010/05/resistivity-conductivity-measurement-of-purified-water#.W9So9uJRc2w
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             https://www.askiitians.com/forums/Physical-Chemistry/19/19074/electro-che
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpotential
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             https://www.quora.com/Why-is-oxygen-molecule-paramagnetic-although-it-does-not-contain-any-unpaired-electron
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251580541_The_effect_of_magnetic_force_on_hydrogen_production_efficiency_in_water_electrolysis
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             http://www.physicscentral.com/experiment/physicsathome/electricwhirlpool.cfm
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             http://www.linux-host.org/energy/bmagpump.htm
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             Now Jon Gentry you have your liquid metal pump
>>>>>>>>>             so
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             that you can
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             make the helix tube Vortex! 
>>>>>>>>>             Ferricpetacarbonyl or
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             micro fine neo
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             powder to provide the liquid metal for pump
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             circuit.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             Lots of reading here!     Please think
>>>>>>>>>             about the
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             ramifications of
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             a Magnetic Current as proposed by Dr.
>>>>>>>>>             Ehrenhaft!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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