Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery

Thanks Norman,
But i actually asced for     ''most efficient way''   to split water known to you!
I realize there are a lot of different technigues to do just that.
And yes i realize you could give me a rather complex answer. But instead i hope for a 
rather easy and reproductive answer since  i am looking forward to solve my enerrgy 
problems i just can not live with the momentary (sad and very stupid energy situation)
I am still not giving up becouse of a couple mistakes and misunderstandings.
If i would be a car dealer and you would ask me for a most efficient car available on the market
i would for sure not recommend a Prius, since there are a lot of cars with better fuel economie
even without being a hybrid and without additional cost like batterys,e-motors and a bunch added ECU's

Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours with usual amount of gas looks to me extremely 
inefficient.
Also very expensive HHO-Garage products with output of 1,6 ltr/min.
Come on, 6 rusty nails and a old car batery does this job, no need to spend 1600 bucks on it.
I honestly expected solide advise or a honest  NO way boy, i just talking around.

I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. '' Slow down boy, we get paid for llooking for
solutions, not to find them!'' That shoked me deeply and even if  i get 150 years old,  i will not forget it.
Thats true treason on mankind and deciving the people. I really hope nobody on this forum only care 
about what he/she will be doing tomorrow.

Jakob



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On Sun, 10/28/18, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:

 Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery
 To: [email protected], "Bert Pool" <[email protected]>, "Bob Paddock" <[email protected]>, "joel mcclain" <[email protected]>, "Jon Gentry" <[email protected]>, "Mbking42" <[email protected]>, "Toby Grotz" <[email protected]>, "Phil Rembold" <[email protected]>, "Angel Alvarez" <[email protected]>, "Fredric Fletcher" <[email protected]>
 Received: Sunday, October 28, 2018, 9:44 AM
 
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
     
       
       
       
   
   
     Jacob!  That would be a rather complex answer
 but here is your
       starting point!
     https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct-thermomagnetic-splitting-of-water-.html   
       After having been heavily involved in the COLD FUSION
 Research
       back in the 70s and 80s I quickly settled o0n the best
 catalyst in
       electrolytic cells which is pure nickel. I still have
 the cell
       used in the Elemental Replication experiments. 
 
     
     http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm    
 The hidden
       part of this research is the use of a nickel component
 in the
       combustion chamber. Bosch developed 90,000V ignition
 systems to
       enable water injection in gas engine which high
 lighted the
       Graneau HV decomposition of water via HVDC
 discharge!
     My magnetic Battery when run as an electrolytic cell
 to produce
       hydrogen does produce a huge amount of hydrogen gas as
 shown by
       the Dr. Ehrenhaft document.  I would tell you to
 pursue the super
       high Tesla magnetic flux and nickel electrodes in an
 electrolytic
       cell.  The major obstacle to be overcome is the rapid
 collection
       of ions from solution by the 1.3 Tesla flux across a
 .020"
       mechanical gap which quickly takes the cell into a
       super-conduction mode which takes out the driving DC
 power supply.
       You can flush the magnetic gaps with distilled water
 and the gaps
       will show in the meg-ohm range then go to zero ohms
 after a short
       period of running, the gathered ions totally short
 cell. During
       the brief runs there is a huge amount of hydrogen gas
 produced 
       which I burned off as it was generated.  Much can be
 said about
       driving the cell with high frequencies as the Myers
 research
       showed.  Our friend up in Canada at George Wiseman,
 Eagle Research
       is running well ahead of the crowd on the production
 of H-H-O.
     Just for giggles!
     
     
       16 October
           1996
       To: Hal
             Fox,  Fusion Facts
       Elemental
             Replication ?
        
             Around mid
 September
           I put together an
           electrolysis cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold
 Fusion Cell
           with the goal of
           exploring the possibilities of making what is
 termed “Pristine
           Water”.   This water
           which will be used by Homeopaths
           will have had all memory or information
 removed.  This is accomplished by
           recombining monatomic
           hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated in a
 properly
           designed cell.  This is
           the ultimate in purity since this is
           water with conditions at the time of original
 creation.  “Holly Water”is a term
           coined by my dear
           friend and fellow researcher Joe Tyls of
 Vancouver, BC.   After several weeks of
           successful operation
           producing water that had all the earmarks of a
 true “pristine
           water” a fellow
           researcher suggested using an alternate
 electrolyte.   A solution was selected
           that contained 77
           colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the
 easiest
           assimilated into the
           body.   With the
           electrolyte changed the
           cell was put back into operation as before with a
 nice
           recombination burn and
           production of the sought after “pristine
 water”.                                                                                                                                     
                  
           After about an
 hour of
           operation the cell
           went absolutely “nuts” with the temperature
 rapidly climbing
           to boiling point
           and the current out of sight. 
           When the
           cell was opened we found a deep red sludge deposit
 which
           shorted the cell
           plates.   Our first
           thought was that the
           electrolytic action precipitated out the colloidal
 minerals
           which caused the
           deposit found.   The 
 electrolyte was allowed
           to settle out the
           precipitate.   After 
 decanting off,  the clear electrolyte
 was
           returned to the
           cell for another run. Again the cell operated
 normally for
           about an hour with a
           normal recombination burn and recovery of the
 water being
           consumed by the cell
           in the splitting action.   Again
           the cell
           temperature and current mirrored the first
 run. 
           Again the cell contained the same amount of
 sludge
           residue.   This process
           was repeated ten (10) times
           with exactly the same results.  
           All of
           the sludge was carefully dried and weighed on an
 electronic
           scale with a five
           decimal
 resolution.                     
           The cell plates and all hardware were
 weighed to
           determine any loss of
           mass that may contribute to the mass gain observed
 in the
           sludge.  Five hundred
           (500) ml of the original
           electrolyte solution used in the cell was vacuum
 distilled to
           determine the
           exact mass of colloidal minerals
 contained. 
           When all factors were considered we came
 out with a
           mass gain of  48 gm
           which cannot be explained by
           conventional
 electrolysis.                      
           
           After talking
 to Dr.
           Robert Bass and Hal
           Fox I learned of a patent that has been filed on
 the
           transmutation of elements
           in the cold fusion cell which is the process that
 Dr. John
           Bockris has been so
           active in.   Both Dr.
           Bass and Hal Fox
           stated that what I was observing is not the same
 as the
           transmutation observed
           in the cold fusion cell since I have a overall
 mass gain and
           not a lateral
           movement of elements in the periodic table toward
 lighter
           elements with a
           resulting heat release.  This
           unusual
           cell operation has caused quite a reaction in the
 scientific
           community.  At this
           time I have built a complete new cell
           with every possible factor which could possibly
 explain the
           mass gain
           considered and documented.  The
           ten (10)
           consecutive runs on the new cell will be completed
 soon and a
           report will be
           forthcoming.   What is
           interesting about
           this phenomenon is that when an eleventh run was
 made with the
           original
           electrolyte exactly the same amount of residue was
 recovered
           as in the previous
           ten
 runs.                                                                       
           
        
       Since
           the same electrolyte is reused each time with only
 distilled
           water being added
           to replace the volume lost by the removal of the
 solids and
           the water recovered
           by the recombination burn we are hard pressed to
 explain the
           observed
           phenomenon.     The
           electrolyte appears
           stronger in mineral concentration and shows no
 sign of
          
 depletion.                                
           
          After conferring
 with
           Joe Tyls we arrived at
           the conclusion that the 77 colloidal minerals
 contained in the
           electrolyte
           provide the atomic templates needed for the
 monatomic hydrogen
           (father of all
           the elements) to replicate selected elements in
 this exotic
           mixture.  If you
           subscribe to the theories of the late
           Walter Russell and his explanation of the octave
 based
           periodic table with
           monatonic hydrogen being what he describes as
 hydrons
           (precursor to hydrogen)
           then it is possible for the replication of
 elements directly
           from energy input
           alone.  This is how all
           matter was
           created in the beginning as described by
 Schappeller in “The
           Physics of the
           Primary State of Matter”.    I
           will keep
           all informed as to our progress and findings in
 this very
           intriguing venture.
        
       Norman
           Wootan
       P.O.
           Box 141049
       Dallas,
           TX 75214
       (214)
           360-0865
        
        
       CC:  Gene Mallove,
 Infinite
           Energy
       CC:  Dr. John
 Bockris, Texas
           A/M
     
     
 
     
     
 
     On 10/28/2018 1:01 AM,
 Jakob Wall
       [email protected]
 [EVGRAY] wrote:
 
     
     
       
        
       
           
             Thanks Norman,
 
               
 
               BTW, what is the most effective water split
 device that
               you ever put you hands on?
 
               As HHO researcher for dekades you should be
 able to point
               us directly to the most effective known!
 
               Please be specific about reconstruction of the
 same, since
               we are in public domain it will become public
 knowledge
               and public good. I assume you intend nothing
 else,rigth ?
 
              
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               On Sat, 10/27/18, Norman Wootan [email protected]
 [EVGRAY]
               <[email protected]>
 wrote:
 
               
 
               Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's
 Magnetic
               Battery [3 Attachments]
 
               To: "Bert Pool" <[email protected]>,
 "Bob
               Paddock" <[email protected]>,
 "joel mcclain"
               <[email protected]>,
 "Jon Gentry"
               <[email protected]>,
 "Lane Wootan"
               <[email protected]>,
 "Mbking42"
               <[email protected]>,
 "Toby Grotz"
               <[email protected]>,
 "Phil Rembold"
               <[email protected]>,
 "Angel Alvarez"
               <[email protected]>,
 "Fredric Fletcher"
               <[email protected]>,
 [email protected]
 
               To understand the unwinding of a thread
 leading
 
               to Magnetic
 
               Generating Hydrogen and this Magnetic Battery,
 we have
 
               to dust off
 
               our  9th grade Chemistry Books!
 
               http://www.rexresearch.com/ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm     
 
               I guess Dr.
 
               Ehrenhaft was the first to propose a Magnetic
 Current.
 
               (Jon
 
               Gentry, Your liquid metal vortex helix).
 
 https://revolution-green.com/can-electrolysis-powered-magnets/      
 
               Ah! Ha!  more on Magnetic Currents!!!
 
 https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446.html
 
 https://www.labmanager.com/white-papers-and-application-notes/2010/05/resistivity-conductivity-measurement-of-purified-water#.W9So9uJRc2w
 
 https://www.askiitians.com/forums/Physical-Chemistry/19/19074/electro-che
 
               https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpotential
 
 https://www.quora.com/Why-is-oxygen-molecule-paramagnetic-although-it-does-not-contain-any-unpaired-electron
 
 https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251580541_The_effect_of_magnetic_force_on_hydrogen_production_efficiency_in_water_electrolysis
 
 http://www.physicscentral.com/experiment/physicsathome/electricwhirlpool.cfm
 
               http://www.linux-host.org/energy/bmagpump.htm
 
               Now Jon Gentry you have your liquid metal pump
 so
 
               that you can
 
               make the helix tube Vortex! 
 Ferricpetacarbonyl or
 
               micro fine neo
 
               powder to provide the liquid metal for pump
 
               circuit.
 
               Lots of reading here!     Please think
 about the
 
               ramifications of
 
               a Magnetic Current as proposed by Dr.
 Ehrenhaft!
 
             
           
           
       
       
       
       
     
     
 
   
 
 
 
     
      
 
     
     
 
 
 
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Jacob! You asked me a question and I gave you my opinion!  I'm totally 
retired at 80 years old and have no lab to experiment in! Your quote; I 
heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. '' Slow down boy, we get 
paid for llooking for solutions, not to find them!''   That certainly 
does not apply to me for I have shared all with the folks on this site.  
I find you statement very interesting:  Technics that use up 10 % of a 
magnet in 24 hours with usual amount of gas looks to me extremely 
inefficient. ??????        Care to share where you saw the power of a 
permanent magnet being used up!   We all here on this site share what 
ever knowledge we have on the various subjects not seeking any monetary 
gain in any way! That is my approach!   I just contribute to the dialog 
when I run across something interesting and think it will assist you 
guys!   Norm


On 11/3/2018 11:32 PM, Jakob Wall [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Thanks Norman,
> But i actually asced for ''most efficient way'' to split water known 
> to you!
> I realize there are a lot of different technigues to do just that.
> And yes i realize you could give me a rather complex answer. But 
> instead i hope for a
> rather easy and reproductive answer since i am looking forward to 
> solve my enerrgy
> problems i just can not live with the momentary (sad and very stupid 
> energy situation)
> I am still not giving up becouse of a couple mistakes and 
> misunderstandings.
> If i would be a car dealer and you would ask me for a most efficient 
> car available on the market
> i would for sure not recommend a Prius, since there are a lot of cars 
> with better fuel economie
> even without being a hybrid and without additional cost like 
> batterys,e-motors and a bunch added ECU's
>
> Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours with usual amount of 
> gas looks to me extremely
> inefficient.
> Also very expensive HHO-Garage products with output of 1,6 ltr/min.
> Come on, 6 rusty nails and a old car batery does this job, no need to 
> spend 1600 bucks on it.
> I honestly expected solide advise or a honest NO way boy, i just 
> talking around.
>
> I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. '' Slow down boy, we 
> get paid for llooking for
> solutions, not to find them!'' That shoked me deeply and even if i get 
> 150 years old, i will not forget it.
> Thats true treason on mankind and deciving the people. I really hope 
> nobody on this forum only care
> about what he/she will be doing tomorrow.
>
> Jakob
>
> --------------------------------------------
> On Sun, 10/28/18, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery
> To: [email protected], "Bert Pool" <[email protected]>, "Bob 
> Paddock" <[email protected]>, "joel mcclain" 
> <[email protected]>, "Jon Gentry" <[email protected]>, 
> "Mbking42" <[email protected]>, "Toby Grotz" 
> <[email protected]>, "Phil Rembold" <[email protected]>, 
> "Angel Alvarez" <[email protected]>, "Fredric Fletcher" 
> <[email protected]>
> Received: Sunday, October 28, 2018, 9:44 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Jacob!  That would be a rather complex answer
> but here is your
> starting point!
> https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct-thermomagnetic-splitting-of-water-.html
> After having been heavily involved in the COLD FUSION
> Research
> back in the 70s and 80s I quickly settled o0n the best
> catalyst in
> electrolytic cells which is pure nickel. I still have
> the cell
> used in the Elemental Replication experiments.
>
>
> http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm
> The hidden
> part of this research is the use of a nickel component
> in the
> combustion chamber. Bosch developed 90,000V ignition
> systems to
> enable water injection in gas engine which high
> lighted the
> Graneau HV decomposition of water via HVDC
> discharge!
> My magnetic Battery when run as an electrolytic cell
> to produce
> hydrogen does produce a huge amount of hydrogen gas as
> shown by
> the Dr. Ehrenhaft document.  I would tell you to
> pursue the super
> high Tesla magnetic flux and nickel electrodes in an
> electrolytic
> cell.  The major obstacle to be overcome is the rapid
> collection
> of ions from solution by the 1.3 Tesla flux across a
> .020"
> mechanical gap which quickly takes the cell into a
> super-conduction mode which takes out the driving DC
> power supply.
> You can flush the magnetic gaps with distilled water
> and the gaps
> will show in the meg-ohm range then go to zero ohms
> after a short
> period of running, the gathered ions totally short
> cell. During
> the brief runs there is a huge amount of hydrogen gas
> produced
> which I burned off as it was generated.  Much can be
> said about
> driving the cell with high frequencies as the Myers
> research
> showed.  Our friend up in Canada at George Wiseman,
> Eagle Research
> is running well ahead of the crowd on the production
> of H-H-O.
> Just for giggles!
>
>
> 16 October
> 1996
> To: Hal
> Fox,  Fusion Facts
> Elemental
> Replication ?
>
>       Around mid
> September
> I put together an
> electrolysis cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold
> Fusion Cell
> with the goal of
> exploring the possibilities of making what is
> termed “Pristine
> Water”.   This water
> which will be used by Homeopaths
> will have had all memory or information
> removed.  This is accomplished by
> recombining monatomic
> hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated in a
> properly
> designed cell.  This is
> the ultimate in purity since this is
> water with conditions at the time of original
> creation.  “Holly Water”is a term
> coined by my dear
> friend and fellow researcher Joe Tyls of
> Vancouver, BC.   After several weeks of
> successful operation
> producing water that had all the earmarks of a
> true “pristine
> water” a fellow
> researcher suggested using an alternate
> electrolyte.   A solution was selected
> that contained 77
> colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the
> easiest
> assimilated into the
> body.   With the
> electrolyte changed the
> cell was put back into operation as before with a
> nice
> recombination burn and
> production of the sought after “pristine
> water”.
>
>     After about an
> hour of
> operation the cell
> went absolutely “nuts” with the temperature
> rapidly climbing
> to boiling point
> and the current out of sight.
> When the
> cell was opened we found a deep red sludge deposit
> which
> shorted the cell
> plates.   Our first
> thought was that the
> electrolytic action precipitated out the colloidal
> minerals
> which caused the
> deposit found.   The
> electrolyte was allowed
> to settle out the
> precipitate.   After
> decanting off,  the clear electrolyte
> was
> returned to the
> cell for another run. Again the cell operated
> normally for
> about an hour with a
> normal recombination burn and recovery of the
> water being
> consumed by the cell
> in the splitting action.   Again
> the cell
> temperature and current mirrored the first
> run.
> Again the cell contained the same amount of
> sludge
> residue.   This process
> was repeated ten (10) times
> with exactly the same results.
> All of
> the sludge was carefully dried and weighed on an
> electronic
> scale with a five
> decimal
> resolution.
> The cell plates and all hardware were
> weighed to
> determine any loss of
> mass that may contribute to the mass gain observed
> in the
> sludge.  Five hundred
> (500) ml of the original
> electrolyte solution used in the cell was vacuum
> distilled to
> determine the
> exact mass of colloidal minerals
> contained.
> When all factors were considered we came
> out with a
> mass gain of  48 gm
> which cannot be explained by
> conventional
> electrolysis.
>
>     After talking
> to Dr.
> Robert Bass and Hal
> Fox I learned of a patent that has been filed on
> the
> transmutation of elements
> in the cold fusion cell which is the process that
> Dr. John
> Bockris has been so
> active in.   Both Dr.
> Bass and Hal Fox
> stated that what I was observing is not the same
> as the
> transmutation observed
> in the cold fusion cell since I have a overall
> mass gain and
> not a lateral
> movement of elements in the periodic table toward
> lighter
> elements with a
> resulting heat release.  This
> unusual
> cell operation has caused quite a reaction in the
> scientific
> community.  At this
> time I have built a complete new cell
> with every possible factor which could possibly
> explain the
> mass gain
> considered and documented.  The
> ten (10)
> consecutive runs on the new cell will be completed
> soon and a
> report will be
> forthcoming.   What is
> interesting about
> this phenomenon is that when an eleventh run was
> made with the
> original
> electrolyte exactly the same amount of residue was
> recovered
> as in the previous
> ten
> runs.
>
>
> Since
> the same electrolyte is reused each time with only
> distilled
> water being added
> to replace the volume lost by the removal of the
> solids and
> the water recovered
> by the recombination burn we are hard pressed to
> explain the
> observed
> phenomenon.     The
> electrolyte appears
> stronger in mineral concentration and shows no
> sign of
>
> depletion.
>
>    After conferring
> with
> Joe Tyls we arrived at
> the conclusion that the 77 colloidal minerals
> contained in the
> electrolyte
> provide the atomic templates needed for the
> monatomic hydrogen
> (father of all
> the elements) to replicate selected elements in
> this exotic
> mixture.  If you
> subscribe to the theories of the late
> Walter Russell and his explanation of the octave
> based
> periodic table with
> monatonic hydrogen being what he describes as
> hydrons
> (precursor to hydrogen)
> then it is possible for the replication of
> elements directly
> from energy input
> alone.  This is how all
> matter was
> created in the beginning as described by
> Schappeller in “The
> Physics of the
> Primary State of Matter”.    I
> will keep
> all informed as to our progress and findings in
> this very
> intriguing venture.
>
> Norman
> Wootan
> P.O.
> Box 141049
> Dallas,
> TX 75214
> (214)
> 360-0865
>
>
> CC:  Gene Mallove,
> Infinite
> Energy
> CC:  Dr. John
> Bockris, Texas
> A/M
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 10/28/2018 1:01 AM,
> Jakob Wall
> [email protected]
> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks Norman,
>
>
>
> BTW, what is the most effective water split
> device that
> you ever put you hands on?
>
> As HHO researcher for dekades you should be
> able to point
> us directly to the most effective known!
>
> Please be specific about reconstruction of the
> same, since
> we are in public domain it will become public
> knowledge
> and public good. I assume you intend nothing
> else,rigth ?
>
>
> --------------------------------------------
>
> On Sat, 10/27/18, Norman Wootan [email protected]
> [EVGRAY]
> <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's
> Magnetic
> Battery [3 Attachments]
>
> To: "Bert Pool" <[email protected]>,
> "Bob
> Paddock" <[email protected]>,
> "joel mcclain"
> <[email protected]>,
> "Jon Gentry"
> <[email protected]>,
> "Lane Wootan"
> <[email protected]>,
> "Mbking42"
> <[email protected]>,
> "Toby Grotz"
> <[email protected]>,
> "Phil Rembold"
> <[email protected]>,
> "Angel Alvarez"
> <[email protected]>,
> "Fredric Fletcher"
> <[email protected]>,
> [email protected]
>
> To understand the unwinding of a thread
> leading
>
> to Magnetic
>
> Generating Hydrogen and this Magnetic Battery,
> we have
>
> to dust off
>
> our  9th grade Chemistry Books!
>
> http://www.rexresearch.com/ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm
>
> I guess Dr.
>
> Ehrenhaft was the first to propose a Magnetic
> Current.
>
> (Jon
>
> Gentry, Your liquid metal vortex helix).
>
> https://revolution-green.com/can-electrolysis-powered-magnets/
>
> Ah! Ha!  more on Magnetic Currents!!!
>
> https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446.html
>
> https://www.labmanager.com/white-papers-and-application-notes/2010/05/resistivity-conductivity-measurement-of-purified-water#.W9So9uJRc2w
>
> https://www.askiitians.com/forums/Physical-Chemistry/19/19074/electro-che
>
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpotential
>
> https://www.quora.com/Why-is-oxygen-molecule-paramagnetic-although-it-does-not-contain-any-unpaired-electron
>
> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251580541_The_effect_of_magnetic_force_on_hydrogen_production_efficiency_in_water_electrolysis
>
> http://www.physicscentral.com/experiment/physicsathome/electricwhirlpool.cfm
>
> http://www.linux-host.org/energy/bmagpump.htm
>
> Now Jon Gentry you have your liquid metal pump
> so
>
> that you can
>
> make the helix tube Vortex!
> Ferricpetacarbonyl or
>
> micro fine neo
>
> powder to provide the liquid metal for pump
>
> circuit.
>
> Lots of reading here!     Please think
> about the
>
> ramifications of
>
> a Magnetic Current as proposed by Dr.
> Ehrenhaft!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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'' Slow down boy, we get paid for looking for solutions, not to find them!'' 
 

 I nearly laughed my bag off, so true but certainly not aimed at you Norm, stay cool. But it does fit your average university or training school... just look at the thousands of hours spent designing a "better snubber".
 

 Ron

Dar n ! a Scientist inventor with no lab is like a breeding bull with no balls ! 

 

---In [email protected], <nwootan@...> wrote :

 Jacob! You asked me a question and I gave you my opinion!  I'm totally retired at 80 years old and have no lab to experiment in!  Your quote; I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. '' Slow down boy, we get paid for llooking for solutions, not to find them!''   That certainly does not apply to me for I have shared all with the folks on this site.  I find you statement very interesting:  Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours with usual amount of gas looks to me extremely inefficient.   ??????        Care to share where you saw the power of a permanent magnet being used up!   We all here on this site share what ever knowledge we have on the various subjects not seeking any monetary gain in any way! That is my approach!   I just contribute to the dialog when I run across something interesting and think it will assist you guys!   Norm

 
 On 11/3/2018 11:32 PM, Jakob Wall wall_jakob@... mailto:wall_jakob@... [EVGRAY] wrote:

   Thanks Norman,
 But i actually asced for ''most efficient way'' to split water known to you!
 I realize there are a lot of different technigues to do just that.
 And yes i realize you could give me a rather complex answer. But instead i hope for a 
 rather easy and reproductive answer since i am looking forward to solve my enerrgy 
 problems i just can not live with the momentary (sad and very stupid energy situation)
 I am still not giving up becouse of a couple mistakes and misunderstandings.
 If i would be a car dealer and you would ask me for a most efficient car available on the market
 i would for sure not recommend a Prius, since there are a lot of cars with better fuel economie
 even without being a hybrid and without additional cost like batterys,e-motors and a bunch added ECU's
 
 Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours with usual amount of gas looks to me extremely 
 inefficient.
 Also very expensive HHO-Garage products with output of 1,6 ltr/min.
 Come on, 6 rusty nails and a old car batery does this job, no need to spend 1600 bucks on it.
 I honestly expected solide advise or a honest NO way boy, i just talking around.
 
 I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. '' Slow down boy, we get paid for llooking for
 solutions, not to find them!'' That shoked me deeply and even if i get 150 years old, i will not forget it.
 Thats true treason on mankind and deciving the people. I really hope nobody on this forum only care 
 about what he/she will be doing tomorrow.
 
 Jakob
 
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 On Sun, 10/28/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@... mailto:nwootan@... [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> mailto:[email protected] wrote:
 
 Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery
 To: [email protected] mailto:[email protected], "Bert Pool" <BertPool512@...> mailto:BertPool512@..., "Bob Paddock" <bob.paddock@...> mailto:bob.paddock@..., "joel mcclain" <joel_76670@...> mailto:joel_76670@..., "Jon Gentry" <jongen422@...> mailto:jongen422@..., "Mbking42" <mbking42@...> mailto:mbking42@..., "Toby Grotz" <wireless2@...> mailto:wireless2@..., "Phil Rembold" <prembold@...> mailto:prembold@..., "Angel Alvarez" <angel@...> mailto:angel@..., "Fredric Fletcher" <ffletcher@...> mailto:ffletcher@...
 Received: Sunday, October 28, 2018, 9:44 AM
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Jacob!  That would be a rather complex answer
 but here is your
 starting point!
 https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct-thermomagnetic-splitting-of-water-.html https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct-thermomagnetic-splitting-of-water-.html   
 After having been heavily involved in the COLD FUSION
 Research
 back in the 70s and 80s I quickly settled o0n the best
 catalyst in
 electrolytic cells which is pure nickel. I still have
 the cell
 used in the Elemental Replication experiments. 
 
 
 http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm    
 The hidden
 part of this research is the use of a nickel component
 in the
 combustion chamber. Bosch developed 90,000V ignition
 systems to
 enable water injection in gas engine which high
 lighted the
 Graneau HV decomposition of water via HVDC
 discharge!
 My magnetic Battery when run as an electrolytic cell
 to produce
 hydrogen does produce a huge amount of hydrogen gas as
 shown by
 the Dr. Ehrenhaft document.  I would tell you to
 pursue the super
 high Tesla magnetic flux and nickel electrodes in an
 electrolytic
 cell.  The major obstacle to be overcome is the rapid
 collection
 of ions from solution by the 1.3 Tesla flux across a
 .020"
 mechanical gap which quickly takes the cell into a
 super-conduction mode which takes out the driving DC
 power supply.
 You can flush the magnetic gaps with distilled water
 and the gaps
 will show in the meg-ohm range then go to zero ohms
 after a short
 period of running, the gathered ions totally short
 cell. During
 the brief runs there is a huge amount of hydrogen gas
 produced 
 which I burned off as it was generated.  Much can be
 said about
 driving the cell with high frequencies as the Myers
 research
 showed.  Our friend up in Canada at George Wiseman,
 Eagle Research
 is running well ahead of the crowd on the production
 of H-H-O.
 Just for giggles!
 
 
 16 October
 1996
 To: Hal
 Fox,  Fusion Facts
 Elemental
 Replication ?
  
       Around mid
 September
 I put together an
 electrolysis cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold
 Fusion Cell
 with the goal of
 exploring the possibilities of making what is
 termed “Pristine
 Water”.   This water
 which will be used by Homeopaths
 will have had all memory or information
 removed.  This is accomplished by
 recombining monatomic
 hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated in a
 properly
 designed cell.  This is
 the ultimate in purity since this is
 water with conditions at the time of original
 creation.  “Holly Water”is a term
 coined by my dear
 friend and fellow researcher Joe Tyls of
 Vancouver, BC.   After several weeks of
 successful operation
 producing water that had all the earmarks of a
 true “pristine
 water” a fellow
 researcher suggested using an alternate
 electrolyte.   A solution was selected
 that contained 77
 colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the
 easiest
 assimilated into the
 body.   With the
 electrolyte changed the
 cell was put back into operation as before with a
 nice
 recombination burn and
 production of the sought after “pristine
 water”.                                                                                                                                     
        
     After about an
 hour of
 operation the cell
 went absolutely “nuts” with the temperature
 rapidly climbing
 to boiling point
 and the current out of sight. 
 When the
 cell was opened we found a deep red sludge deposit
 which
 shorted the cell
 plates.   Our first
 thought was that the
 electrolytic action precipitated out the colloidal
 minerals
 which caused the
 deposit found.   The 
 electrolyte was allowed
 to settle out the
 precipitate.   After 
 decanting off,  the clear electrolyte
 was
 returned to the
 cell for another run. Again the cell operated
 normally for
 about an hour with a
 normal recombination burn and recovery of the
 water being
 consumed by the cell
 in the splitting action.   Again
 the cell
 temperature and current mirrored the first
 run. 
 Again the cell contained the same amount of
 sludge
 residue.   This process
 was repeated ten (10) times
 with exactly the same results.  
 All of
 the sludge was carefully dried and weighed on an
 electronic
 scale with a five
 decimal
 resolution.                     
 The cell plates and all hardware were
 weighed to
 determine any loss of
 mass that may contribute to the mass gain observed
 in the
 sludge.  Five hundred
 (500) ml of the original
 electrolyte solution used in the cell was vacuum
 distilled to
 determine the
 exact mass of colloidal minerals
 contained. 
 When all factors were considered we came
 out with a
 mass gain of  48 gm
 which cannot be explained by
 conventional
 electrolysis.                      
 
     After talking
 to Dr.
 Robert Bass and Hal
 Fox I learned of a patent that has been filed on
 the
 transmutation of elements
 in the cold fusion cell which is the process that
 Dr. John
 Bockris has been so
 active in.   Both Dr.
 Bass and Hal Fox
 stated that what I was observing is not the same
 as the
 transmutation observed
 in the cold fusion cell since I have a overall
 mass gain and
 not a lateral
 movement of elements in the periodic table toward
 lighter
 elements with a
 resulting heat release.  This
 unusual
 cell operation has caused quite a reaction in the
 scientific
 community.  At this
 time I have built a complete new cell
 with every possible factor which could possibly
 explain the
 mass gain
 considered and documented.  The
 ten (10)
 consecutive runs on the new cell will be completed
 soon and a
 report will be
 forthcoming.   What is
 interesting about
 this phenomenon is that when an eleventh run was
 made with the
 original
 electrolyte exactly the same amount of residue was
 recovered
 as in the previous
 ten
 runs.                                                                       
 
  
 Since
 the same electrolyte is reused each time with only
 distilled
 water being added
 to replace the volume lost by the removal of the
 solids and
 the water recovered
 by the recombination burn we are hard pressed to
 explain the
 observed
 phenomenon.     The
 electrolyte appears
 stronger in mineral concentration and shows no
 sign of
 
 depletion.                                
 
    After conferring
 with
 Joe Tyls we arrived at
 the conclusion that the 77 colloidal minerals
 contained in the
 electrolyte
 provide the atomic templates needed for the
 monatomic hydrogen
 (father of all
 the elements) to replicate selected elements in
 this exotic
 mixture.  If you
 subscribe to the theories of the late
 Walter Russell and his explanation of the octave
 based
 periodic table with
 monatonic hydrogen being what he describes as
 hydrons
 (precursor to hydrogen)
 then it is possible for the replication of
 elements directly
 from energy input
 alone.  This is how all
 matter was
 created in the beginning as described by
 Schappeller in “The
 Physics of the
 Primary State of Matter”.    I
 will keep
 all informed as to our progress and findings in
 this very
 intriguing venture.
  
 Norman
 Wootan
 P.O.
 Box 141049
 Dallas,
 TX 75214
 (214)
 360-0865
  
  
 CC:  Gene Mallove,
 Infinite
 Energy
 CC:  Dr. John
 Bockris, Texas
 A/M
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On 10/28/2018 1:01 AM,
 Jakob Wall
 wall_jakob@... mailto:wall_jakob@...
 [EVGRAY] wrote:
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 Thanks Norman,
 
 
 
 BTW, what is the most effective water split
 device that
 you ever put you hands on?
 
 As HHO researcher for dekades you should be
 able to point
 us directly to the most effective known!
 
 Please be specific about reconstruction of the
 same, since
 we are in public domain it will become public
 knowledge
 and public good. I assume you intend nothing
 else,rigth ?
 
 
 --------------------------------------------
 
 On Sat, 10/27/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@... mailto:nwootan@...
 [EVGRAY]
 <[email protected]> mailto:[email protected]
 wrote:
 
 
 
 Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's
 Magnetic
 Battery [3 Attachments]
 
 To: "Bert Pool" <BertPool512@...> mailto:BertPool512@...,
 "Bob
 Paddock" <bob.paddock@...> mailto:bob.paddock@...,
 "joel mcclain"
 <joel_76670@...> mailto:joel_76670@...,
 "Jon Gentry"
 <jongen422@...> mailto:jongen422@...,
 "Lane Wootan"
 <lanewootan@...> mailto:lanewootan@...,
 "Mbking42"
 <mbking42@...> mailto:mbking42@...,
 "Toby Grotz"
 <wireless2@...> mailto:wireless2@...,
 "Phil Rembold"
 <prembold@...> mailto:prembold@...,
 "Angel Alvarez"
 <angel@...> mailto:angel@...,
 "Fredric Fletcher"
 <ffletcher@...> mailto:ffletcher@...,
 [email protected] mailto:[email protected]
 
 To understand the unwinding of a thread
 leading
 
 to Magnetic
 
 Generating Hydrogen and this Magnetic Battery,
 we have
 
 to dust off
 
 our  9th grade Chemistry Books!
 
 http://www.rexresearch.com/ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm http://www.rexresearch.com/ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm     
 
 I guess Dr.
 
 Ehrenhaft was the first to propose a Magnetic
 Current.
 
 (Jon
 
 Gentry, Your liquid metal vortex helix).
 
 https://revolution-green.com/can-electrolysis-powered-magnets/ https://revolution-green.com/can-electrolysis-powered-magnets/      
 
 Ah! Ha!  more on Magnetic Currents!!!
 
 https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446.html https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446.html
 
 https://www.labmanager.com/white-papers-and-application-notes/2010/05/resistivity-conductivity-measurement-of-purified-water#.W9So9uJRc2w https://www.labmanager.com/white-papers-and-application-notes/2010/05/resistivity-conductivity-measurement-of-purified-water#.W9So9uJRc2w
 
 https://www.askiitians.com/forums/Physical-Chemistry/19/19074/electro-che https://www.askiitians.com/forums/Physical-Chemistry/19/19074/electro-che
 
 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpotential https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpotential
 
 https://www.quora.com/Why-is-oxygen-molecule-paramagnetic-although-it-does-not-contain-any-unpaired-electron https://www.quora.com/Why-is-oxygen-molecule-paramagnetic-although-it-does-not-contain-any-unpaired-electron
 
 https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251580541_The_effect_of_magnetic_force_on_hydrogen_production_efficiency_in_water_electrolysis https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251580541_The_effect_of_magnetic_force_on_hydrogen_production_efficiency_in_water_electrolysis
 
 http://www.physicscentral.com/experiment/physicsathome/electricwhirlpool.cfm http://www.physicscentral.com/experiment/physicsathome/electricwhirlpool.cfm
 
 http://www.linux-host.org/energy/bmagpump.htm http://www.linux-host.org/energy/bmagpump.htm
 
 Now Jon Gentry you have your liquid metal pump
 so
 
 that you can
 
 make the helix tube Vortex! 
 Ferricpetacarbonyl or
 
 micro fine neo
 
 powder to provide the liquid metal for pump
 
 circuit.
 
 Lots of reading here!     Please think
 about the
 
 ramifications of
 
 a Magnetic Current as proposed by Dr.
 Ehrenhaft!
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Cmon Hector,

Bad taste!

The man had a more serious lab than anyone else here and his work speaks
for itself.  Maybe he has gained the fortune he desired through R&D and
now shitting in tall cotton or gone fishing reaping the rewards of
retirement. Notwithstanding is still kind enough to help point us in the
right directions around here.

"*Funny–I can look back on a life of achievement, on challenges met,
competitors bested, obstacles overcome. I’ve accomplished more than most
men, and without the use of my legs. What?What makes a man, Mr. Lebowski?"*


On 11/6/2018 8:04 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> Dar n ! a Scientist inventor with no lab is like a breeding bull with
> no balls !
>
> Balls Cow GIF - Balls Cow WingDangDoodle GIFs
>
>
>
> ---In [email protected], <nwootan@...> wrote :
>
> Jacob! You asked me a question and I gave you my opinion!  I'm totally
> retired at 80 years old and have no lab to experiment in!  Your quote;
> I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. '' Slow down boy, we
> get paid for llooking for solutions, not to find them!''   That
> certainly does not apply to me for I have shared all with the folks on
> this site.  I find you statement very interesting:  Technics that use
> up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours with usual amount of gas looks to me
> extremely inefficient.   ??????        Care to share where you saw the
> power of a permanent magnet being used up!   We all here on this site
> share what ever knowledge we have on the various subjects not seeking
> any monetary gain in any way! That is my approach!   I just contribute
> to the dialog when I run across something interesting and think it
> will assist you guys!   Norm
>
>
> On 11/3/2018 11:32 PM, Jakob Wall wall_jakob@...
> <mailto:wall_jakob@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
>>      
>>
>>     Thanks Norman,
>>     But i actually asced for ''most efficient way'' to split water
>>     known to you!
>>     I realize there are a lot of different technigues to do just that.
>>     And yes i realize you could give me a rather complex answer. But
>>     instead i hope for a
>>     rather easy and reproductive answer since i am looking forward to
>>     solve my enerrgy
>>     problems i just can not live with the momentary (sad and very
>>     stupid energy situation)
>>     I am still not giving up becouse of a couple mistakes and
>>     misunderstandings.
>>     If i would be a car dealer and you would ask me for a most
>>     efficient car available on the market
>>     i would for sure not recommend a Prius, since there are a lot of
>>     cars with better fuel economie
>>     even without being a hybrid and without additional cost like
>>     batterys,e-motors and a bunch added ECU's
>>
>>     Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours with usual
>>     amount of gas looks to me extremely
>>     inefficient.
>>     Also very expensive HHO-Garage products with output of 1,6 ltr/min.
>>     Come on, 6 rusty nails and a old car batery does this job, no
>>     need to spend 1600 bucks on it.
>>     I honestly expected solide advise or a honest NO way boy, i just
>>     talking around.
>>
>>     I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. '' Slow down
>>     boy, we get paid for llooking for
>>     solutions, not to find them!'' That shoked me deeply and even if
>>     i get 150 years old, i will not forget it.
>>     Thats true treason on mankind and deciving the people. I really
>>     hope nobody on this forum only care
>>     about what he/she will be doing tomorrow.
>>
>>     Jakob
>>
>>     --------------------------------------------
>>     On Sun, 10/28/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@... <mailto:nwootan@...>
>>     [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>     wrote:
>>
>>     Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery
>>     To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>, "Bert
>>     Pool" <BertPool512@...> <mailto:BertPool512@...>, "Bob Paddock"
>>     <bob.paddock@...> <mailto:bob.paddock@...>, "joel mcclain"
>>     <joel_76670@...> <mailto:joel_76670@...>, "Jon Gentry"
>>     <jongen422@...> <mailto:jongen422@...>, "Mbking42" <mbking42@...>
>>     <mailto:mbking42@...>, "Toby Grotz" <wireless2@...>
>>     <mailto:wireless2@...>, "Phil Rembold" <prembold@...>
>>     <mailto:prembold@...>, "Angel Alvarez" <angel@...>
>>     <mailto:angel@...>, "Fredric Fletcher" <ffletcher@...>
>>     <mailto:ffletcher@...>
>>     Received: Sunday, October 28, 2018, 9:44 AM
>>
>>
>>      
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>     Jacob!  That would be a rather complex answer
>>     but here is your
>>     starting point!
>>     https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct-thermomagnetic-splitting-of-water-.html   
>>     After having been heavily involved in the COLD FUSION
>>     Research
>>     back in the 70s and 80s I quickly settled o0n the best
>>     catalyst in
>>     electrolytic cells which is pure nickel. I still have
>>     the cell
>>     used in the Elemental Replication experiments.
>>
>>
>>     http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm    
>>     The hidden
>>     part of this research is the use of a nickel component
>>     in the
>>     combustion chamber. Bosch developed 90,000V ignition
>>     systems to
>>     enable water injection in gas engine which high
>>     lighted the
>>     Graneau HV decomposition of water via HVDC
>>     discharge!
>>     My magnetic Battery when run as an electrolytic cell
>>     to produce
>>     hydrogen does produce a huge amount of hydrogen gas as
>>     shown by
>>     the Dr. Ehrenhaft document.  I would tell you to
>>     pursue the super
>>     high Tesla magnetic flux and nickel electrodes in an
>>     electrolytic
>>     cell.  The major obstacle to be overcome is the rapid
>>     collection
>>     of ions from solution by the 1.3 Tesla flux across a
>>     .020"
>>     mechanical gap which quickly takes the cell into a
>>     super-conduction mode which takes out the driving DC
>>     power supply.
>>     You can flush the magnetic gaps with distilled water
>>     and the gaps
>>     will show in the meg-ohm range then go to zero ohms
>>     after a short
>>     period of running, the gathered ions totally short
>>     cell. During
>>     the brief runs there is a huge amount of hydrogen gas
>>     produced 
>>     which I burned off as it was generated.  Much can be
>>     said about
>>     driving the cell with high frequencies as the Myers
>>     research
>>     showed.  Our friend up in Canada at George Wiseman,
>>     Eagle Research
>>     is running well ahead of the crowd on the production
>>     of H-H-O.
>>     Just for giggles!
>>
>>
>>     16 October
>>     1996
>>     To: Hal
>>     Fox,  Fusion Facts
>>     Elemental
>>     Replication ?
>>      
>>           Around mid
>>     September
>>     I put together an
>>     electrolysis cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold
>>     Fusion Cell
>>     with the goal of
>>     exploring the possibilities of making what is
>>     termed “Pristine
>>     Water”.   This water
>>     which will be used by Homeopaths
>>     will have had all memory or information
>>     removed.  This is accomplished by
>>     recombining monatomic
>>     hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated in a
>>     properly
>>     designed cell.  This is
>>     the ultimate in purity since this is
>>     water with conditions at the time of original
>>     creation.  “Holly Water”is a term
>>     coined by my dear
>>     friend and fellow researcher Joe Tyls of
>>     Vancouver, BC.   After several weeks of
>>     successful operation
>>     producing water that had all the earmarks of a
>>     true “pristine
>>     water” a fellow
>>     researcher suggested using an alternate
>>     electrolyte.   A solution was selected
>>     that contained 77
>>     colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the
>>     easiest
>>     assimilated into the
>>     body.   With the
>>     electrolyte changed the
>>     cell was put back into operation as before with a
>>     nice
>>     recombination burn and
>>     production of the sought after “pristine
>>     water”.                                                                                                                                     
>>            
>>         After about an
>>     hour of
>>     operation the cell
>>     went absolutely “nuts” with the temperature
>>     rapidly climbing
>>     to boiling point
>>     and the current out of sight. 
>>     When the
>>     cell was opened we found a deep red sludge deposit
>>     which
>>     shorted the cell
>>     plates.   Our first
>>     thought was that the
>>     electrolytic action precipitated out the colloidal
>>     minerals
>>     which caused the
>>     deposit found.   The 
>>     electrolyte was allowed
>>     to settle out the
>>     precipitate.   After 
>>     decanting off,  the clear electrolyte
>>     was
>>     returned to the
>>     cell for another run. Again the cell operated
>>     normally for
>>     about an hour with a
>>     normal recombination burn and recovery of the
>>     water being
>>     consumed by the cell
>>     in the splitting action.   Again
>>     the cell
>>     temperature and current mirrored the first
>>     run. 
>>     Again the cell contained the same amount of
>>     sludge
>>     residue.   This process
>>     was repeated ten (10) times
>>     with exactly the same results.  
>>     All of
>>     the sludge was carefully dried and weighed on an
>>     electronic
>>     scale with a five
>>     decimal
>>     resolution.                     
>>     The cell plates and all hardware were
>>     weighed to
>>     determine any loss of
>>     mass that may contribute to the mass gain observed
>>     in the
>>     sludge.  Five hundred
>>     (500) ml of the original
>>     electrolyte solution used in the cell was vacuum
>>     distilled to
>>     determine the
>>     exact mass of colloidal minerals
>>     contained. 
>>     When all factors were considered we came
>>     out with a
>>     mass gain of  48 gm
>>     which cannot be explained by
>>     conventional
>>     electrolysis.                      
>>
>>         After talking
>>     to Dr.
>>     Robert Bass and Hal
>>     Fox I learned of a patent that has been filed on
>>     the
>>     transmutation of elements
>>     in the cold fusion cell which is the process that
>>     Dr. John
>>     Bockris has been so
>>     active in.   Both Dr.
>>     Bass and Hal Fox
>>     stated that what I was observing is not the same
>>     as the
>>     transmutation observed
>>     in the cold fusion cell since I have a overall
>>     mass gain and
>>     not a lateral
>>     movement of elements in the periodic table toward
>>     lighter
>>     elements with a
>>     resulting heat release.  This
>>     unusual
>>     cell operation has caused quite a reaction in the
>>     scientific
>>     community.  At this
>>     time I have built a complete new cell
>>     with every possible factor which could possibly
>>     explain the
>>     mass gain
>>     considered and documented.  The
>>     ten (10)
>>     consecutive runs on the new cell will be completed
>>     soon and a
>>     report will be
>>     forthcoming.   What is
>>     interesting about
>>     this phenomenon is that when an eleventh run was
>>     made with the
>>     original
>>     electrolyte exactly the same amount of residue was
>>     recovered
>>     as in the previous
>>     ten
>>     runs.                                                                       
>>
>>      
>>     Since
>>     the same electrolyte is reused each time with only
>>     distilled
>>     water being added
>>     to replace the volume lost by the removal of the
>>     solids and
>>     the water recovered
>>     by the recombination burn we are hard pressed to
>>     explain the
>>     observed
>>     phenomenon.     The
>>     electrolyte appears
>>     stronger in mineral concentration and shows no
>>     sign of
>>
>>     depletion.                                
>>
>>        After conferring
>>     with
>>     Joe Tyls we arrived at
>>     the conclusion that the 77 colloidal minerals
>>     contained in the
>>     electrolyte
>>     provide the atomic templates needed for the
>>     monatomic hydrogen
>>     (father of all
>>     the elements) to replicate selected elements in
>>     this exotic
>>     mixture.  If you
>>     subscribe to the theories of the late
>>     Walter Russell and his explanation of the octave
>>     based
>>     periodic table with
>>     monatonic hydrogen being what he describes as
>>     hydrons
>>     (precursor to hydrogen)
>>     then it is possible for the replication of
>>     elements directly
>>     from energy input
>>     alone.  This is how all
>>     matter was
>>     created in the beginning as described by
>>     Schappeller in “The
>>     Physics of the
>>     Primary State of Matter”.    I
>>     will keep
>>     all informed as to our progress and findings in
>>     this very
>>     intriguing venture.
>>      
>>     Norman
>>     Wootan
>>     P.O.
>>     Box 141049
>>     Dallas,
>>     TX 75214
>>     (214)
>>     360-0865
>>      
>>      
>>     CC:  Gene Mallove,
>>     Infinite
>>     Energy
>>     CC:  Dr. John
>>     Bockris, Texas
>>     A/M
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>     On 10/28/2018 1:01 AM,
>>     Jakob Wall
>>     wall_jakob@... <mailto:wall_jakob@...>
>>     [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>      
>>
>>
>>     Thanks Norman,
>>
>>
>>
>>     BTW, what is the most effective water split
>>     device that
>>     you ever put you hands on?
>>
>>     As HHO researcher for dekades you should be
>>     able to point
>>     us directly to the most effective known!
>>
>>     Please be specific about reconstruction of the
>>     same, since
>>     we are in public domain it will become public
>>     knowledge
>>     and public good. I assume you intend nothing
>>     else,rigth ?
>>
>>
>>     --------------------------------------------
>>
>>     On Sat, 10/27/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@... <mailto:nwootan@...>
>>     [EVGRAY]
>>     <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>     wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>     Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's
>>     Magnetic
>>     Battery [3 Attachments]
>>
>>     To: "Bert Pool" <BertPool512@...> <mailto:BertPool512@...>,
>>     "Bob
>>     Paddock" <bob.paddock@...> <mailto:bob.paddock@...>,
>>     "joel mcclain"
>>     <joel_76670@...> <mailto:joel_76670@...>,
>>     "Jon Gentry"
>>     <jongen422@...> <mailto:jongen422@...>,
>>     "Lane Wootan"
>>     <lanewootan@...> <mailto:lanewootan@...>,
>>     "Mbking42"
>>     <mbking42@...> <mailto:mbking42@...>,
>>     "Toby Grotz"
>>     <wireless2@...> <mailto:wireless2@...>,
>>     "Phil Rembold"
>>     <prembold@...> <mailto:prembold@...>,
>>     "Angel Alvarez"
>>     <angel@...> <mailto:angel@...>,
>>     "Fredric Fletcher"
>>     <ffletcher@...> <mailto:ffletcher@...>,
>>     [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>
>>     To understand the unwinding of a thread
>>     leading
>>
>>     to Magnetic
>>
>>     Generating Hydrogen and this Magnetic Battery,
>>     we have
>>
>>     to dust off
>>
>>     our  9th grade Chemistry Books!
>>
>>     http://www.rexresearch.com/ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm     
>>
>>     I guess Dr.
>>
>>     Ehrenhaft was the first to propose a Magnetic
>>     Current.
>>
>>     (Jon
>>
>>     Gentry, Your liquid metal vortex helix).
>>
>>     https://revolution-green.com/can-electrolysis-powered-magnets/      
>>
>>     Ah! Ha!  more on Magnetic Currents!!!
>>
>>     https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446.html
>>
>>     https://www.labmanager.com/white-papers-and-application-notes/2010/05/resistivity-conductivity-measurement-of-purified-water#.W9So9uJRc2w
>>
>>     https://www.askiitians.com/forums/Physical-Chemistry/19/19074/electro-che
>>
>>     https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpotential
>>
>>     https://www.quora.com/Why-is-oxygen-molecule-paramagnetic-although-it-does-not-contain-any-unpaired-electron
>>
>>     https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251580541_The_effect_of_magnetic_force_on_hydrogen_production_efficiency_in_water_electrolysis
>>
>>     http://www.physicscentral.com/experiment/physicsathome/electricwhirlpool.cfm
>>
>>     http://www.linux-host.org/energy/bmagpump.htm
>>
>>     Now Jon Gentry you have your liquid metal pump
>>     so
>>
>>     that you can
>>
>>     make the helix tube Vortex! 
>>     Ferricpetacarbonyl or
>>
>>     micro fine neo
>>
>>     powder to provide the liquid metal for pump
>>
>>     circuit.
>>
>>     Lots of reading here!     Please think
>>     about the
>>
>>     ramifications of
>>
>>     a Magnetic Current as proposed by Dr.
>>     Ehrenhaft!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>

Hector,

What happened with the guy you were partnering up with locally to make
efficient energy solution solar or something?


On 11/6/2018 6:13 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> Its me and i feel ball-less with limited resources i might feel dead
> with no chance to experiment on anything , its just a metaphor don't
> take it on the bad side , Norman belongs in a lab not in a normal
> house aging like an old cheese !
>
> by the way who is willing to donate 2 big stainless steel balls 10
> feet in diameter custom made to my specifications .....?
>
> i cant finish that experiment ( for definitely lack of 2 large balls ! )
>
> (H)
>
>
>
>
> ---In [email protected], <mkjekyll@...> wrote :
>
> Cmon Hector,
>
> Bad taste!
>
> The man had a more serious lab than anyone else here and his work
> speaks for itself.  Maybe he has gained the fortune he desired through
> R&D and now shitting in tall cotton or gone fishing reaping the
> rewards of retirement. Notwithstanding is still kind enough to help
> point us in the right directions around here.
>
> "*Funny–I can look back on a life of achievement, on challenges met,
> competitors bested, obstacles overcome. I’ve accomplished more than
> most men, and without the use of my legs. What?What makes a man, Mr.
> Lebowski?"*
>
>
> On 11/6/2018 8:04 AM, arkresearch@... <mailto:arkresearch@...>
> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
>>      
>>
>>     Dar n ! a Scientist inventor with no lab is like a breeding bull
>>     with no balls !
>>
>>     Balls Cow GIF - Balls Cow WingDangDoodle GIFs
>>
>>
>>
>>     ---In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>,
>>     <nwootan@...> <mailto:nwootan@...> wrote :
>>
>>     Jacob! You asked me a question and I gave you my opinion!  I'm
>>     totally retired at 80 years old and have no lab to experiment
>>     in!  Your quote; I heard once a phrase from a researcher who
>>     said. '' Slow down boy, we get paid for llooking for solutions,
>>     not to find them!''   That certainly does not apply to me for I
>>     have shared all with the folks on this site.  I find you
>>     statement very interesting:  Technics that use up 10 % of a
>>     magnet in 24 hours with usual amount of gas looks to me extremely
>>     inefficient.   ??????        Care to share where you saw the
>>     power of a permanent magnet being used up!   We all here on this
>>     site share what ever knowledge we have on the various subjects
>>     not seeking any monetary gain in any way! That is my approach!  
>>     I just contribute to the dialog when I run across something
>>     interesting and think it will assist you guys!   Norm
>>
>>
>>     On 11/3/2018 11:32 PM, Jakob Wall wall_jakob@...
>>     <mailto:wall_jakob@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>>>          
>>>
>>>         Thanks Norman,
>>>         But i actually asced for ''most efficient way'' to split
>>>         water known to you!
>>>         I realize there are a lot of different technigues to do just
>>>         that.
>>>         And yes i realize you could give me a rather complex answer.
>>>         But instead i hope for a
>>>         rather easy and reproductive answer since i am looking
>>>         forward to solve my enerrgy
>>>         problems i just can not live with the momentary (sad and
>>>         very stupid energy situation)
>>>         I am still not giving up becouse of a couple mistakes and
>>>         misunderstandings.
>>>         If i would be a car dealer and you would ask me for a most
>>>         efficient car available on the market
>>>         i would for sure not recommend a Prius, since there are a
>>>         lot of cars with better fuel economie
>>>         even without being a hybrid and without additional cost like
>>>         batterys,e-motors and a bunch added ECU's
>>>
>>>         Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours with usual
>>>         amount of gas looks to me extremely
>>>         inefficient.
>>>         Also very expensive HHO-Garage products with output of 1,6
>>>         ltr/min.
>>>         Come on, 6 rusty nails and a old car batery does this job,
>>>         no need to spend 1600 bucks on it.
>>>         I honestly expected solide advise or a honest NO way boy, i
>>>         just talking around.
>>>
>>>         I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. '' Slow
>>>         down boy, we get paid for llooking for
>>>         solutions, not to find them!'' That shoked me deeply and
>>>         even if i get 150 years old, i will not forget it.
>>>         Thats true treason on mankind and deciving the people. I
>>>         really hope nobody on this forum only care
>>>         about what he/she will be doing tomorrow.
>>>
>>>         Jakob
>>>
>>>         --------------------------------------------
>>>         On Sun, 10/28/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>         <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
>>>         <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>         Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery
>>>         To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>,
>>>         "Bert Pool" <BertPool512@...> <mailto:BertPool512@...>, "Bob
>>>         Paddock" <bob.paddock@...> <mailto:bob.paddock@...>, "joel
>>>         mcclain" <joel_76670@...> <mailto:joel_76670@...>, "Jon
>>>         Gentry" <jongen422@...> <mailto:jongen422@...>, "Mbking42"
>>>         <mbking42@...> <mailto:mbking42@...>, "Toby Grotz"
>>>         <wireless2@...> <mailto:wireless2@...>, "Phil Rembold"
>>>         <prembold@...> <mailto:prembold@...>, "Angel Alvarez"
>>>         <angel@...> <mailto:angel@...>, "Fredric Fletcher"
>>>         <ffletcher@...> <mailto:ffletcher@...>
>>>         Received: Sunday, October 28, 2018, 9:44 AM
>>>
>>>
>>>          
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         Jacob!  That would be a rather complex answer
>>>         but here is your
>>>         starting point!
>>>         https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct-thermomagnetic-splitting-of-water-.html   
>>>         After having been heavily involved in the COLD FUSION
>>>         Research
>>>         back in the 70s and 80s I quickly settled o0n the best
>>>         catalyst in
>>>         electrolytic cells which is pure nickel. I still have
>>>         the cell
>>>         used in the Elemental Replication experiments.
>>>
>>>
>>>         http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm    
>>>         The hidden
>>>         part of this research is the use of a nickel component
>>>         in the
>>>         combustion chamber. Bosch developed 90,000V ignition
>>>         systems to
>>>         enable water injection in gas engine which high
>>>         lighted the
>>>         Graneau HV decomposition of water via HVDC
>>>         discharge!
>>>         My magnetic Battery when run as an electrolytic cell
>>>         to produce
>>>         hydrogen does produce a huge amount of hydrogen gas as
>>>         shown by
>>>         the Dr. Ehrenhaft document.  I would tell you to
>>>         pursue the super
>>>         high Tesla magnetic flux and nickel electrodes in an
>>>         electrolytic
>>>         cell.  The major obstacle to be overcome is the rapid
>>>         collection
>>>         of ions from solution by the 1.3 Tesla flux across a
>>>         .020"
>>>         mechanical gap which quickly takes the cell into a
>>>         super-conduction mode which takes out the driving DC
>>>         power supply.
>>>         You can flush the magnetic gaps with distilled water
>>>         and the gaps
>>>         will show in the meg-ohm range then go to zero ohms
>>>         after a short
>>>         period of running, the gathered ions totally short
>>>         cell. During
>>>         the brief runs there is a huge amount of hydrogen gas
>>>         produced 
>>>         which I burned off as it was generated.  Much can be
>>>         said about
>>>         driving the cell with high frequencies as the Myers
>>>         research
>>>         showed.  Our friend up in Canada at George Wiseman,
>>>         Eagle Research
>>>         is running well ahead of the crowd on the production
>>>         of H-H-O.
>>>         Just for giggles!
>>>
>>>
>>>         16 October
>>>         1996
>>>         To: Hal
>>>         Fox,  Fusion Facts
>>>         Elemental
>>>         Replication ?
>>>          
>>>               Around mid
>>>         September
>>>         I put together an
>>>         electrolysis cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold
>>>         Fusion Cell
>>>         with the goal of
>>>         exploring the possibilities of making what is
>>>         termed “Pristine
>>>         Water”.   This water
>>>         which will be used by Homeopaths
>>>         will have had all memory or information
>>>         removed.  This is accomplished by
>>>         recombining monatomic
>>>         hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated in a
>>>         properly
>>>         designed cell.  This is
>>>         the ultimate in purity since this is
>>>         water with conditions at the time of original
>>>         creation.  “Holly Water”is a term
>>>         coined by my dear
>>>         friend and fellow researcher Joe Tyls of
>>>         Vancouver, BC.   After several weeks of
>>>         successful operation
>>>         producing water that had all the earmarks of a
>>>         true “pristine
>>>         water” a fellow
>>>         researcher suggested using an alternate
>>>         electrolyte.   A solution was selected
>>>         that contained 77
>>>         colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the
>>>         easiest
>>>         assimilated into the
>>>         body.   With the
>>>         electrolyte changed the
>>>         cell was put back into operation as before with a
>>>         nice
>>>         recombination burn and
>>>         production of the sought after “pristine
>>>         water”.                                                                                                                                     
>>>                
>>>             After about an
>>>         hour of
>>>         operation the cell
>>>         went absolutely “nuts” with the temperature
>>>         rapidly climbing
>>>         to boiling point
>>>         and the current out of sight. 
>>>         When the
>>>         cell was opened we found a deep red sludge deposit
>>>         which
>>>         shorted the cell
>>>         plates.   Our first
>>>         thought was that the
>>>         electrolytic action precipitated out the colloidal
>>>         minerals
>>>         which caused the
>>>         deposit found.   The 
>>>         electrolyte was allowed
>>>         to settle out the
>>>         precipitate.   After 
>>>         decanting off,  the clear electrolyte
>>>         was
>>>         returned to the
>>>         cell for another run. Again the cell operated
>>>         normally for
>>>         about an hour with a
>>>         normal recombination burn and recovery of the
>>>         water being
>>>         consumed by the cell
>>>         in the splitting action.   Again
>>>         the cell
>>>         temperature and current mirrored the first
>>>         run. 
>>>         Again the cell contained the same amount of
>>>         sludge
>>>         residue.   This process
>>>         was repeated ten (10) times
>>>         with exactly the same results.  
>>>         All of
>>>         the sludge was carefully dried and weighed on an
>>>         electronic
>>>         scale with a five
>>>         decimal
>>>         resolution.                     
>>>         The cell plates and all hardware were
>>>         weighed to
>>>         determine any loss of
>>>         mass that may contribute to the mass gain observed
>>>         in the
>>>         sludge.  Five hundred
>>>         (500) ml of the original
>>>         electrolyte solution used in the cell was vacuum
>>>         distilled to
>>>         determine the
>>>         exact mass of colloidal minerals
>>>         contained. 
>>>         When all factors were considered we came
>>>         out with a
>>>         mass gain of  48 gm
>>>         which cannot be explained by
>>>         conventional
>>>         electrolysis.                      
>>>
>>>             After talking
>>>         to Dr.
>>>         Robert Bass and Hal
>>>         Fox I learned of a patent that has been filed on
>>>         the
>>>         transmutation of elements
>>>         in the cold fusion cell which is the process that
>>>         Dr. John
>>>         Bockris has been so
>>>         active in.   Both Dr.
>>>         Bass and Hal Fox
>>>         stated that what I was observing is not the same
>>>         as the
>>>         transmutation observed
>>>         in the cold fusion cell since I have a overall
>>>         mass gain and
>>>         not a lateral
>>>         movement of elements in the periodic table toward
>>>         lighter
>>>         elements with a
>>>         resulting heat release.  This
>>>         unusual
>>>         cell operation has caused quite a reaction in the
>>>         scientific
>>>         community.  At this
>>>         time I have built a complete new cell
>>>         with every possible factor which could possibly
>>>         explain the
>>>         mass gain
>>>         considered and documented.  The
>>>         ten (10)
>>>         consecutive runs on the new cell will be completed
>>>         soon and a
>>>         report will be
>>>         forthcoming.   What is
>>>         interesting about
>>>         this phenomenon is that when an eleventh run was
>>>         made with the
>>>         original
>>>         electrolyte exactly the same amount of residue was
>>>         recovered
>>>         as in the previous
>>>         ten
>>>         runs.                                                                       
>>>
>>>          
>>>         Since
>>>         the same electrolyte is reused each time with only
>>>         distilled
>>>         water being added
>>>         to replace the volume lost by the removal of the
>>>         solids and
>>>         the water recovered
>>>         by the recombination burn we are hard pressed to
>>>         explain the
>>>         observed
>>>         phenomenon.     The
>>>         electrolyte appears
>>>         stronger in mineral concentration and shows no
>>>         sign of
>>>
>>>         depletion.                                
>>>
>>>            After conferring
>>>         with
>>>         Joe Tyls we arrived at
>>>         the conclusion that the 77 colloidal minerals
>>>         contained in the
>>>         electrolyte
>>>         provide the atomic templates needed for the
>>>         monatomic hydrogen
>>>         (father of all
>>>         the elements) to replicate selected elements in
>>>         this exotic
>>>         mixture.  If you
>>>         subscribe to the theories of the late
>>>         Walter Russell and his explanation of the octave
>>>         based
>>>         periodic table with
>>>         monatonic hydrogen being what he describes as
>>>         hydrons
>>>         (precursor to hydrogen)
>>>         then it is possible for the replication of
>>>         elements directly
>>>         from energy input
>>>         alone.  This is how all
>>>         matter was
>>>         created in the beginning as described by
>>>         Schappeller in “The
>>>         Physics of the
>>>         Primary State of Matter”.    I
>>>         will keep
>>>         all informed as to our progress and findings in
>>>         this very
>>>         intriguing venture.
>>>          
>>>         Norman
>>>         Wootan
>>>         P.O.
>>>         Box 141049
>>>         Dallas,
>>>         TX 75214
>>>         (214)
>>>         360-0865
>>>          
>>>          
>>>         CC:  Gene Mallove,
>>>         Infinite
>>>         Energy
>>>         CC:  Dr. John
>>>         Bockris, Texas
>>>         A/M
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         On 10/28/2018 1:01 AM,
>>>         Jakob Wall
>>>         wall_jakob@... <mailto:wall_jakob@...>
>>>         [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>          
>>>
>>>
>>>         Thanks Norman,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         BTW, what is the most effective water split
>>>         device that
>>>         you ever put you hands on?
>>>
>>>         As HHO researcher for dekades you should be
>>>         able to point
>>>         us directly to the most effective known!
>>>
>>>         Please be specific about reconstruction of the
>>>         same, since
>>>         we are in public domain it will become public
>>>         knowledge
>>>         and public good. I assume you intend nothing
>>>         else,rigth ?
>>>
>>>
>>>         --------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>         On Sat, 10/27/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@... <mailto:nwootan@...>
>>>         [EVGRAY]
>>>         <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>         wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's
>>>         Magnetic
>>>         Battery [3 Attachments]
>>>
>>>         To: "Bert Pool" <BertPool512@...> <mailto:BertPool512@...>,
>>>         "Bob
>>>         Paddock" <bob.paddock@...> <mailto:bob.paddock@...>,
>>>         "joel mcclain"
>>>         <joel_76670@...> <mailto:joel_76670@...>,
>>>         "Jon Gentry"
>>>         <jongen422@...> <mailto:jongen422@...>,
>>>         "Lane Wootan"
>>>         <lanewootan@...> <mailto:lanewootan@...>,
>>>         "Mbking42"
>>>         <mbking42@...> <mailto:mbking42@...>,
>>>         "Toby Grotz"
>>>         <wireless2@...> <mailto:wireless2@...>,
>>>         "Phil Rembold"
>>>         <prembold@...> <mailto:prembold@...>,
>>>         "Angel Alvarez"
>>>         <angel@...> <mailto:angel@...>,
>>>         "Fredric Fletcher"
>>>         <ffletcher@...> <mailto:ffletcher@...>,
>>>         [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>
>>>         To understand the unwinding of a thread
>>>         leading
>>>
>>>         to Magnetic
>>>
>>>         Generating Hydrogen and this Magnetic Battery,
>>>         we have
>>>
>>>         to dust off
>>>
>>>         our  9th grade Chemistry Books!
>>>
>>>         http://www.rexresearch.com/ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm     
>>>
>>>         I guess Dr.
>>>
>>>         Ehrenhaft was the first to propose a Magnetic
>>>         Current.
>>>
>>>         (Jon
>>>
>>>         Gentry, Your liquid metal vortex helix).
>>>
>>>         https://revolution-green.com/can-electrolysis-powered-magnets/      
>>>
>>>         Ah! Ha!  more on Magnetic Currents!!!
>>>
>>>         https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446.html
>>>
>>>         https://www.labmanager.com/white-papers-and-application-notes/2010/05/resistivity-conductivity-measurement-of-purified-water#.W9So9uJRc2w
>>>
>>>         https://www.askiitians.com/forums/Physical-Chemistry/19/19074/electro-che
>>>
>>>         https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpotential
>>>
>>>         https://www.quora.com/Why-is-oxygen-molecule-paramagnetic-although-it-does-not-contain-any-unpaired-electron
>>>
>>>         https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251580541_The_effect_of_magnetic_force_on_hydrogen_production_efficiency_in_water_electrolysis
>>>
>>>         http://www.physicscentral.com/experiment/physicsathome/electricwhirlpool.cfm
>>>
>>>         http://www.linux-host.org/energy/bmagpump.htm
>>>
>>>         Now Jon Gentry you have your liquid metal pump
>>>         so
>>>
>>>         that you can
>>>
>>>         make the helix tube Vortex! 
>>>         Ferricpetacarbonyl or
>>>
>>>         micro fine neo
>>>
>>>         powder to provide the liquid metal for pump
>>>
>>>         circuit.
>>>
>>>         Lots of reading here!     Please think
>>>         about the
>>>
>>>         ramifications of
>>>
>>>         a Magnetic Current as proposed by Dr.
>>>         Ehrenhaft!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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HectorPoor old bull. It must be a very hot climate there. In Canada, in Winter, they would just freeze off, leaving him to sing with the castrati, rather than having a leisurely stroll in the sunshine, letting it all hang out, and swing.
You forget about the approach of winter down where you live, except passing through hurricane season.My heat pump is nearly connected.It is claimed it will deliver heat, when it is-30 C I am hooking up to the house power,  but as soon as I can, I will be severing that connection.10.2 kilowatts at 220 volts, will do that trick, so my search is turning serious.Cheers Warren
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  On Tue, 6 Nov 2018 at 12:35 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
Dar n ! a Scientist inventor with no lab is like a breeding bull with no balls ! 




---In [email protected], <nwootan@...> wrote :


Jacob! You asked me a question and I gave you my opinion!  I'mtotally retired at 80 years old and have no lab to experiment in! Your quote; I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. ''Slow down boy, we get paid for llooking for solutions, not to findthem!''   That certainly does not apply to me for I have sharedall with the folks on this site.  I find you statement veryinteresting:  Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hourswith usual amount of gas looks to me extremely inefficient.  ??????        Care to share where you saw the power of a permanentmagnet being used up!   We all here on this site share what everknowledge we have on the various subjects not seeking any monetarygain in any way! That is my approach!   I just contribute to thedialog when I run across something interesting and think it willassist you guys!   Norm


On 11/3/2018 11:32 PM, Jakob Wallwall_jakob@... [EVGRAY] wrote:


 
Thanks Norman,
But i actually asced for ''most efficient way'' to splitwater known to you!
I realize there are a lot of different technigues to dojust that.
And yes i realize you could give me a rather complexanswer. But instead i hope for a 
rather easy and reproductive answer since i am lookingforward to solve my enerrgy 
problems i just can not live with the momentary (sad andvery stupid energy situation)
I am still not giving up becouse of a couple mistakes andmisunderstandings.
If i would be a car dealer and you would ask me for a mostefficient car available on the market
i would for sure not recommend a Prius, since there are alot of cars with better fuel economie
even without being a hybrid and without additional costlike batterys,e-motors and a bunch added ECU's

Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours withusual amount of gas looks to me extremely 
inefficient.
Also very expensive HHO-Garage products with output of 1,6ltr/min.
Come on, 6 rusty nails and a old car batery does this job,no need to spend 1600 bucks on it.
I honestly expected solide advise or a honest NO way boy,i just talking around.

I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. '' Slowdown boy, we get paid for llooking for
solutions, not to find them!'' That shoked me deeply andeven if i get 150 years old, i will not forget it.
Thats true treason on mankind and deciving the people. Ireally hope nobody on this forum only care 
about what he/she will be doing tomorrow.

Jakob

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On Sun, 10/28/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@... [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:

Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's MagneticBattery
To: [email protected], "Bert Pool"<BertPool512@...>, "Bob Paddock"<bob.paddock@...>, "joel mcclain"<joel_76670@...>, "Jon Gentry"<jongen422@...>, "Mbking42"<mbking42@...>, "Toby Grotz"<wireless2@...>, "Phil Rembold"<prembold@...>, "Angel Alvarez"<angel@...>, "Fredric Fletcher"<ffletcher@...>
Received: Sunday, October 28, 2018, 9:44 AM


 












Jacob!  That would be a rather complex answer
but here is your
starting point!
https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct-thermomagnetic-splitting-of-water-.html   
After having been heavily involved in the COLD FUSION
Research
back in the 70s and 80s I quickly settled o0n the best
catalyst in
electrolytic cells which is pure nickel. I still have
the cell
used in the Elemental Replication experiments. 


http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm    
The hidden
part of this research is the use of a nickel component
in the
combustion chamber. Bosch developed 90,000V ignition
systems to
enable water injection in gas engine which high
lighted the
Graneau HV decomposition of water via HVDC
discharge!
My magnetic Battery when run as an electrolytic cell
to produce
hydrogen does produce a huge amount of hydrogen gas as
shown by
the Dr. Ehrenhaft document.  I would tell you to
pursue the super
high Tesla magnetic flux and nickel electrodes in an
electrolytic
cell.  The major obstacle to be overcome is the rapid
collection
of ions from solution by the 1.3 Tesla flux across a
.020"
mechanical gap which quickly takes the cell into a
super-conduction mode which takes out the driving DC
power supply.
You can flush the magnetic gaps with distilled water
and the gaps
will show in the meg-ohm range then go to zero ohms
after a short
period of running, the gathered ions totally short
cell. During
the brief runs there is a huge amount of hydrogen gas
produced 
which I burned off as it was generated.  Much can be
said about
driving the cell with high frequencies as the Myers
research
showed.  Our friend up in Canada at George Wiseman,
Eagle Research
is running well ahead of the crowd on the production
of H-H-O.
Just for giggles!


16 October
1996
To: Hal
Fox,  Fusion Facts
Elemental
Replication ?
 
      Around mid
September
I put together an
electrolysis cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold
Fusion Cell
with the goal of
exploring the possibilities of making what is
termed “Pristine
Water”.   This water
which will be used by Homeopaths
will have had all memory or information
removed.  This is accomplished by
recombining monatomic
hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated in a
properly
designed cell.  This is
the ultimate in purity since this is
water with conditions at the time of original
creation.  “Holly Water”is a term
coined by my dear
friend and fellow researcher Joe Tyls of
Vancouver, BC.   After several weeks of
successful operation
producing water that had all the earmarks of a
true “pristine
water” a fellow
researcher suggested using an alternate
electrolyte.   A solution was selected
that contained 77
colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the
easiest
assimilated into the
body.   With the
electrolyte changed the
cell was put back into operation as before with a
nice
recombination burn and
production of the sought after “pristine
water”.                                                                                                                                     
       
    After about an
hour of
operation the cell
went absolutely “nuts” with the temperature
rapidly climbing
to boiling point
and the current out of sight. 
When the
cell was opened we found a deep red sludge deposit
which
shorted the cell
plates.   Our first
thought was that the
electrolytic action precipitated out the colloidal
minerals
which caused the
deposit found.   The 
electrolyte was allowed
to settle out the
precipitate.   After 
decanting off,  the clear electrolyte
was
returned to the
cell for another run. Again the cell operated
normally for
about an hour with a
normal recombination burn and recovery of the
water being
consumed by the cell
in the splitting action.   Again
the cell
temperature and current mirrored the first
run. 
Again the cell contained the same amount of
sludge
residue.   This process
was repeated ten (10) times
with exactly the same results.  
All of
the sludge was carefully dried and weighed on an
electronic
scale with a five
decimal
resolution.                     
The cell plates and all hardware were
weighed to
determine any loss of
mass that may contribute to the mass gain observed
in the
sludge.  Five hundred
(500) ml of the original
electrolyte solution used in the cell was vacuum
distilled to
determine the
exact mass of colloidal minerals
contained. 
When all factors were considered we came
out with a
mass gain of  48 gm
which cannot be explained by
conventional
electrolysis.                      

    After talking
to Dr.
Robert Bass and Hal
Fox I learned of a patent that has been filed on
the
transmutation of elements
in the cold fusion cell which is the process that
Dr. John
Bockris has been so
active in.   Both Dr.
Bass and Hal Fox
stated that what I was observing is not the same
as the
transmutation observed
in the cold fusion cell since I have a overall
mass gain and
not a lateral
movement of elements in the periodic table toward
lighter
elements with a
resulting heat release.  This
unusual
cell operation has caused quite a reaction in the
scientific
community.  At this
time I have built a complete new cell
with every possible factor which could possibly
explain the
mass gain
considered and documented.  The
ten (10)
consecutive runs on the new cell will be completed
soon and a
report will be
forthcoming.   What is
interesting about
this phenomenon is that when an eleventh run was
made with the
original
electrolyte exactly the same amount of residue was
recovered
as in the previous
ten
runs.                                                                       

 
Since
the same electrolyte is reused each time with only
distilled
water being added
to replace the volume lost by the removal of the
solids and
the water recovered
by the recombination burn we are hard pressed to
explain the
observed
phenomenon.     The
electrolyte appears
stronger in mineral concentration and shows no
sign of

depletion.                                

   After conferring
with
Joe Tyls we arrived at
the conclusion that the 77 colloidal minerals
contained in the
electrolyte
provide the atomic templates needed for the
monatomic hydrogen
(father of all
the elements) to replicate selected elements in
this exotic
mixture.  If you
subscribe to the theories of the late
Walter Russell and his explanation of the octave
based
periodic table with
monatonic hydrogen being what he describes as
hydrons
(precursor to hydrogen)
then it is possible for the replication of
elements directly
from energy input
alone.  This is how all
matter was
created in the beginning as described by
Schappeller in “The
Physics of the
Primary State of Matter”.    I
will keep
all informed as to our progress and findings in
this very
intriguing venture.
 
Norman
Wootan
P.O.
Box 141049
Dallas,
TX 75214
(214)
360-0865
 
 
CC:  Gene Mallove,
Infinite
Energy
CC:  Dr. John
Bockris, Texas
A/M






On 10/28/2018 1:01 AM,
Jakob Wall
wall_jakob@...
[EVGRAY] wrote:




 


Thanks Norman,



BTW, what is the most effective water split
device that
you ever put you hands on?

As HHO researcher for dekades you should be
able to point
us directly to the most effective known!

Please be specific about reconstruction of the
same, since
we are in public domain it will become public
knowledge
and public good. I assume you intend nothing
else,rigth ?


--------------------------------------------

On Sat, 10/27/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
[EVGRAY]
<[email protected]>
wrote:



Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's
Magnetic
Battery [3 Attachments]

To: "Bert Pool" <BertPool512@...>,
"Bob
Paddock" <bob.paddock@...>,
"joel mcclain"
<joel_76670@...>,
"Jon Gentry"
<jongen422@...>,
"Lane Wootan"
<lanewootan@...>,
"Mbking42"
<mbking42@...>,
"Toby Grotz"
<wireless2@...>,
"Phil Rembold"
<prembold@...>,
"Angel Alvarez"
<angel@...>,
"Fredric Fletcher"
<ffletcher@...>,
[email protected]

To understand the unwinding of a thread
leading

to Magnetic

Generating Hydrogen and this Magnetic Battery,
we have

to dust off

our  9th grade Chemistry Books!

http://www.rexresearch.com/ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm     

I guess Dr.

Ehrenhaft was the first to propose a Magnetic
Current.

(Jon

Gentry, Your liquid metal vortex helix).

https://revolution-green.com/can-electrolysis-powered-magnets/      

Ah! Ha!  more on Magnetic Currents!!!

https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446.html

https://www.labmanager.com/white-papers-and-application-notes/2010/05/resistivity-conductivity-measurement-of-purified-water#.W9So9uJRc2w

https://www.askiitians.com/forums/Physical-Chemistry/19/19074/electro-che

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpotential

https://www.quora.com/Why-is-oxygen-molecule-paramagnetic-although-it-does-not-contain-any-unpaired-electron

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251580541_The_effect_of_magnetic_force_on_hydrogen_production_efficiency_in_water_electrolysis

http://www.physicscentral.com/experiment/physicsathome/electricwhirlpool.cfm

http://www.linux-host.org/energy/bmagpump.htm

Now Jon Gentry you have your liquid metal pump
so

that you can

make the helix tube Vortex! 
Ferricpetacarbonyl or

micro fine neo

powder to provide the liquid metal for pump

circuit.

Lots of reading here!     Please think
about the

ramifications of

a Magnetic Current as proposed by Dr.
Ehrenhaft!























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Its me and i feel ball-less with limited resources i might feel dead with no chance to experiment on anything , its just a metaphor don't take it on the bad side , Norman belongs in a lab not in a normal house aging like an old cheese ! 

by the way who is willing to donate 2 big stainless steel balls 10 feet in diameter custom made to my specifications .....?

i cant finish that experiment ( for definitely lack of 2 large balls ! ) 

(H) 

 


---In [email protected], <mkjekyll@...> wrote :

 Cmon Hector,
 Bad taste!
 
 The man had a more serious lab than anyone else here and his work speaks for itself.  Maybe he has gained the fortune he desired through R&D and now shitting in tall cotton or gone fishing reaping the rewards of retirement. Notwithstanding is still kind enough to help point us in the right directions around here.
 "Funny–I can look back on a life of achievement, on challenges met, competitors bested, obstacles overcome. I’ve accomplished more than most men, and without the use of my legs. What?What makes a man, Mr. Lebowski?"
 
 On 11/6/2018 8:04 AM, arkresearch@... mailto:arkresearch@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
 
   Dar n ! a Scientist inventor with no lab is like a breeding bull with no balls ! 
 
 
 
 
 ---In [email protected] mailto:[email protected], <nwootan@...> mailto:nwootan@... wrote :
 
 Jacob! You asked me a question and I gave you my opinion!  I'm totally retired at 80 years old and have no lab to experiment in!  Your quote; I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. '' Slow down boy, we get paid for llooking for solutions, not to find them!''   That certainly does not apply to me for I have shared all with the folks on this site.  I find you statement very interesting:  Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours with usual amount of gas looks to me extremely inefficient.   ??????        Care to share where you saw the power of a permanent magnet being used up!   We all here on this site share what ever knowledge we have on the various subjects not seeking any monetary gain in any way! That is my approach!   I just contribute to the dialog when I run across something interesting and think it will assist you guys!   Norm
 
 
 On 11/3/2018 11:32 PM, Jakob Wall wall_jakob@... mailto:wall_jakob@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
 
   Thanks Norman,
 But i actually asced for ''most efficient way'' to split water known to you!
 I realize there are a lot of different technigues to do just that.
 And yes i realize you could give me a rather complex answer. But instead i hope for a 
 rather easy and reproductive answer since i am looking forward to solve my enerrgy 
 problems i just can not live with the momentary (sad and very stupid energy situation)
 I am still not giving up becouse of a couple mistakes and misunderstandings.
 If i would be a car dealer and you would ask me for a most efficient car available on the market
 i would for sure not recommend a Prius, since there are a lot of cars with better fuel economie
 even without being a hybrid and without additional cost like batterys,e-motors and a bunch added ECU's
 
 Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours with usual amount of gas looks to me extremely 
 inefficient.
 Also very expensive HHO-Garage products with output of 1,6 ltr/min.
 Come on, 6 rusty nails and a old car batery does this job, no need to spend 1600 bucks on it.
 I honestly expected solide advise or a honest NO way boy, i just talking around.
 
 I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. '' Slow down boy, we get paid for llooking for
 solutions, not to find them!'' That shoked me deeply and even if i get 150 years old, i will not forget it.
 Thats true treason on mankind and deciving the people. I really hope nobody on this forum only care 
 about what he/she will be doing tomorrow.
 
 Jakob
 
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 On Sun, 10/28/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@... mailto:nwootan@... [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> mailto:[email protected] wrote:
 
 Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery
 To: [email protected] mailto:[email protected], "Bert Pool" <BertPool512@...> mailto:BertPool512@..., "Bob Paddock" <bob.paddock@...> mailto:bob.paddock@..., "joel mcclain" <joel_76670@...> mailto:joel_76670@..., "Jon Gentry" <jongen422@...> mailto:jongen422@..., "Mbking42" <mbking42@...> mailto:mbking42@..., "Toby Grotz" <wireless2@...> mailto:wireless2@..., "Phil Rembold" <prembold@...> mailto:prembold@..., "Angel Alvarez" <angel@...> mailto:angel@..., "Fredric Fletcher" <ffletcher@...> mailto:ffletcher@...
 Received: Sunday, October 28, 2018, 9:44 AM
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Jacob!  That would be a rather complex answer
 but here is your
 starting point!
 https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct-thermomagnetic-splitting-of-water-.html https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct-thermomagnetic-splitting-of-water-.html   
 After having been heavily involved in the COLD FUSION
 Research
 back in the 70s and 80s I quickly settled o0n the best
 catalyst in
 electrolytic cells which is pure nickel. I still have
 the cell
 used in the Elemental Replication experiments. 
 
 
 http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm    
 The hidden
 part of this research is the use of a nickel component
 in the
 combustion chamber. Bosch developed 90,000V ignition
 systems to
 enable water injection in gas engine which high
 lighted the
 Graneau HV decomposition of water via HVDC
 discharge!
 My magnetic Battery when run as an electrolytic cell
 to produce
 hydrogen does produce a huge amount of hydrogen gas as
 shown by
 the Dr. Ehrenhaft document.  I would tell you to
 pursue the super
 high Tesla magnetic flux and nickel electrodes in an
 electrolytic
 cell.  The major obstacle to be overcome is the rapid
 collection
 of ions from solution by the 1.3 Tesla flux across a
 .020"
 mechanical gap which quickly takes the cell into a
 super-conduction mode which takes out the driving DC
 power supply.
 You can flush the magnetic gaps with distilled water
 and the gaps
 will show in the meg-ohm range then go to zero ohms
 after a short
 period of running, the gathered ions totally short
 cell. During
 the brief runs there is a huge amount of hydrogen gas
 produced 
 which I burned off as it was generated.  Much can be
 said about
 driving the cell with high frequencies as the Myers
 research
 showed.  Our friend up in Canada at George Wiseman,
 Eagle Research
 is running well ahead of the crowd on the production
 of H-H-O.
 Just for giggles!
 
 
 16 October
 1996
 To: Hal
 Fox,  Fusion Facts
 Elemental
 Replication ?
  
       Around mid
 September
 I put together an
 electrolysis cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold
 Fusion Cell
 with the goal of
 exploring the possibilities of making what is
 termed “Pristine
 Water”.   This water
 which will be used by Homeopaths
 will have had all memory or information
 removed.  This is accomplished by
 recombining monatomic
 hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated in a
 properly
 designed cell.  This is
 the ultimate in purity since this is
 water with conditions at the time of original
 creation.  “Holly Water”is a term
 coined by my dear
 friend and fellow researcher Joe Tyls of
 Vancouver, BC.   After several weeks of
 successful operation
 producing water that had all the earmarks of a
 true “pristine
 water” a fellow
 researcher suggested using an alternate
 electrolyte.   A solution was selected
 that contained 77
 colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the
 easiest
 assimilated into the
 body.   With the
 electrolyte changed the
 cell was put back into operation as before with a
 nice
 recombination burn and
 production of the sought after “pristine
 water”.                                                                                                                                     
        
     After about an
 hour of
 operation the cell
 went absolutely “nuts” with the temperature
 rapidly climbing
 to boiling point
 and the current out of sight. 
 When the
 cell was opened we found a deep red sludge deposit
 which
 shorted the cell
 plates.   Our first
 thought was that the
 electrolytic action precipitated out the colloidal
 minerals
 which caused the
 deposit found.   The 
 electrolyte was allowed
 to settle out the
 precipitate.   After 
 decanting off,  the clear electrolyte
 was
 returned to the
 cell for another run. Again the cell operated
 normally for
 about an hour with a
 normal recombination burn and recovery of the
 water being
 consumed by the cell
 in the splitting action.   Again
 the cell
 temperature and current mirrored the first
 run. 
 Again the cell contained the same amount of
 sludge
 residue.   This process
 was repeated ten (10) times
 with exactly the same results.  
 All of
 the sludge was carefully dried and weighed on an
 electronic
 scale with a five
 decimal
 resolution.                     
 The cell plates and all hardware were
 weighed to
 determine any loss of
 mass that may contribute to the mass gain observed
 in the
 sludge.  Five hundred
 (500) ml of the original
 electrolyte solution used in the cell was vacuum
 distilled to
 determine the
 exact mass of colloidal minerals
 contained. 
 When all factors were considered we came
 out with a
 mass gain of  48 gm
 which cannot be explained by
 conventional
 electrolysis.                      
 
     After talking
 to Dr.
 Robert Bass and Hal
 Fox I learned of a patent that has been filed on
 the
 transmutation of elements
 in the cold fusion cell which is the process that
 Dr. John
 Bockris has been so
 active in.   Both Dr.
 Bass and Hal Fox
 stated that what I was observing is not the same
 as the
 transmutation observed
 in the cold fusion cell since I have a overall
 mass gain and
 not a lateral
 movement of elements in the periodic table toward
 lighter
 elements with a
 resulting heat release.  This
 unusual
 cell operation has caused quite a reaction in the
 scientific
 community.  At this
 time I have built a complete new cell
 with every possible factor which could possibly
 explain the
 mass gain
 considered and documented.  The
 ten (10)
 consecutive runs on the new cell will be completed
 soon and a
 report will be
 forthcoming.   What is
 interesting about
 this phenomenon is that when an eleventh run was
 made with the
 original
 electrolyte exactly the same amount of residue was
 recovered
 as in the previous
 ten
 runs.                                                                       
 
  
 Since
 the same electrolyte is reused each time with only
 distilled
 water being added
 to replace the volume lost by the removal of the
 solids and
 the water recovered
 by the recombination burn we are hard pressed to
 explain the
 observed
 phenomenon.     The
 electrolyte appears
 stronger in mineral concentration and shows no
 sign of
 
 depletion.                                
 
    After conferring
 with
 Joe Tyls we arrived at
 the conclusion that the 77 colloidal minerals
 contained in the
 electrolyte
 provide the atomic templates needed for the
 monatomic hydrogen
 (father of all
 the elements) to replicate selected elements in
 this exotic
 mixture.  If you
 subscribe to the theories of the late
 Walter Russell and his explanation of the octave
 based
 periodic table with
 monatonic hydrogen being what he describes as
 hydrons
 (precursor to hydrogen)
 then it is possible for the replication of
 elements directly
 from energy input
 alone.  This is how all
 matter was
 created in the beginning as described by
 Schappeller in “The
 Physics of the
 Primary State of Matter”.    I
 will keep
 all informed as to our progress and findings in
 this very
 intriguing venture.
  
 Norman
 Wootan
 P.O.
 Box 141049
 Dallas,
 TX 75214
 (214)
 360-0865
  
  
 CC:  Gene Mallove,
 Infinite
 Energy
 CC:  Dr. John
 Bockris, Texas
 A/M
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On 10/28/2018 1:01 AM,
 Jakob Wall
 wall_jakob@... mailto:wall_jakob@...
 [EVGRAY] wrote:
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 Thanks Norman,
 
 
 
 BTW, what is the most effective water split
 device that
 you ever put you hands on?
 
 As HHO researcher for dekades you should be
 able to point
 us directly to the most effective known!
 
 Please be specific about reconstruction of the
 same, since
 we are in public domain it will become public
 knowledge
 and public good. I assume you intend nothing
 else,rigth ?
 
 
 --------------------------------------------
 
 On Sat, 10/27/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@... mailto:nwootan@...
 [EVGRAY]
 <[email protected]> mailto:[email protected]
 wrote:
 
 
 
 Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's
 Magnetic
 Battery [3 Attachments]
 
 To: "Bert Pool" <BertPool512@...> mailto:BertPool512@...,
 "Bob
 Paddock" <bob.paddock@...> mailto:bob.paddock@...,
 "joel mcclain"
 <joel_76670@...> mailto:joel_76670@...,
 "Jon Gentry"
 <jongen422@...> mailto:jongen422@...,
 "Lane Wootan"
 <lanewootan@...> mailto:lanewootan@...,
 "Mbking42"
 <mbking42@...> mailto:mbking42@...,
 "Toby Grotz"
 <wireless2@...> mailto:wireless2@...,
 "Phil Rembold"
 <prembold@...> mailto:prembold@...,
 "Angel Alvarez"
 <angel@...> mailto:angel@...,
 "Fredric Fletcher"
 <ffletcher@...> mailto:ffletcher@...,
 [email protected] mailto:[email protected]
 
 To understand the unwinding of a thread
 leading
 
 to Magnetic
 
 Generating Hydrogen and this Magnetic Battery,
 we have
 
 to dust off
 
 our  9th grade Chemistry Books!
 
 http://www.rexresearch.com/ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm http://www.rexresearch.com/ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm     
 
 I guess Dr.
 
 Ehrenhaft was the first to propose a Magnetic
 Current.
 
 (Jon
 
 Gentry, Your liquid metal vortex helix).
 
 https://revolution-green.com/can-electrolysis-powered-magnets/ https://revolution-green.com/can-electrolysis-powered-magnets/      
 
 Ah! Ha!  more on Magnetic Currents!!!
 
 https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446.html https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446.html
 
 https://www.labmanager.com/white-papers-and-application-notes/2010/05/resistivity-conductivity-measurement-of-purified-water#.W9So9uJRc2w https://www.labmanager.com/white-papers-and-application-notes/2010/05/resistivity-conductivity-measurement-of-purified-water#.W9So9uJRc2w
 
 https://www.askiitians.com/forums/Physical-Chemistry/19/19074/electro-che https://www.askiitians.com/forums/Physical-Chemistry/19/19074/electro-che
 
 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpotential https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpotential
 
 https://www.quora.com/Why-is-oxygen-molecule-paramagnetic-although-it-does-not-contain-any-unpaired-electron https://www.quora.com/Why-is-oxygen-molecule-paramagnetic-although-it-does-not-contain-any-unpaired-electron
 
 https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251580541_The_effect_of_magnetic_force_on_hydrogen_production_efficiency_in_water_electrolysis https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251580541_The_effect_of_magnetic_force_on_hydrogen_production_efficiency_in_water_electrolysis
 
 http://www.physicscentral.com/experiment/physicsathome/electricwhirlpool.cfm http://www.physicscentral.com/experiment/physicsathome/electricwhirlpool.cfm
 
 http://www.linux-host.org/energy/bmagpump.htm http://www.linux-host.org/energy/bmagpump.htm
 
 Now Jon Gentry you have your liquid metal pump
 so
 
 that you can
 
 make the helix tube Vortex! 
 Ferricpetacarbonyl or
 
 micro fine neo
 
 powder to provide the liquid metal for pump
 
 circuit.
 
 Lots of reading here!     Please think
 about the
 
 ramifications of
 
 a Magnetic Current as proposed by Dr.
 Ehrenhaft!
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvOs5Ip5oDQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvOs5Ip5oDQ   well he can paint his balls with this .....in referral to your bull commentary ( not Norman OK ! no offense was mean for him Just a feedeback to tempt him into getting back to experimentation "even get a ham license" )  

paints walls and ceiling with it  leave the floor to radiate ..use 3M IR heat reflector film in the windows  and its 20% energy savings ..

(H)  


---In [email protected], <schoonersolsticemoon@...> wrote :

 Hector Poor old bull. It must be a very hot climate there. 
 In Canada, in Winter, they would just freeze off, leaving him to sing with the castrati, rather than having a leisurely stroll in the sunshine, letting it all hang out, and swing.
You forget about the approach of winter down where you live, except passing through hurricane season.
 My heat pump is nearly connected.
 It is claimed it will deliver heat, when it is-30 C 
 I am hooking up to the house power,  but as soon as I can, I will be severing that connection.
 10.2 kilowatts at 220 volts, will do that trick, so my search is turning serious.
 Cheers Warren
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 On Tue, 6 Nov 2018 at 12:35 PM, arkresearch@... [EVGRAY]
 <[email protected]> wrote:
 
   Dar n ! a Scientist inventor with no lab is like a breeding bull with no balls ! 


 

---In [email protected], <nwootan@...> wrote :

 Jacob! You asked me a question and I gave you my opinion!  I'm totally retired at 80 years old and have no lab to experiment in!  Your quote; I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. '' Slow down boy, we get paid for llooking for solutions, not to find them!''   That certainly does not apply to me for I have shared all with the folks on this site.  I find you statement very interesting:  Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours with usual amount of gas looks to me extremely inefficient.   ??????        Care to share where you saw the power of a permanent magnet being used up!   We all here on this site share what ever knowledge we have on the various subjects not seeking any monetary gain in any way! That is my approach!   I just contribute to the dialog when I run across something interesting and think it will assist you guys!   Norm

 
 On 11/3/2018 11:32 PM, Jakob Wall wall_jakob@... mailto:wall_jakob@... [EVGRAY] wrote:

   Thanks Norman,
 But i actually asced for ''most efficient way'' to split water known to you!
 I realize there are a lot of different technigues to do just that.
 And yes i realize you could give me a rather complex answer. But instead i hope for a 
 rather easy and reproductive answer since i am looking forward to solve my enerrgy 
 problems i just can not live with the momentary (sad and very stupid energy situation)
 I am still not giving up becouse of a couple mistakes and misunderstandings.
 If i would be a car dealer and you would ask me for a most efficient car available on the market
 i would for sure not recommend a Prius, since there are a lot of cars with better fuel economie
 even without being a hybrid and without additional cost like batterys,e-motors and a bunch added ECU's
 
 Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours with usual amount of gas looks to me extremely 
 inefficient.
 Also very expensive HHO-Garage products with output of 1,6 ltr/min.
 Come on, 6 rusty nails and a old car batery does this job, no need to spend 1600 bucks on it.
 I honestly expected solide advise or a honest NO way boy, i just talking around.
 
 I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. '' Slow down boy, we get paid for llooking for
 solutions, not to find them!'' That shoked me deeply and even if i get 150 years old, i will not forget it.
 Thats true treason on mankind and deciving the people. I really hope nobody on this forum only care 
 about what he/she will be doing tomorrow.
 
 Jakob
 
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 On Sun, 10/28/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@... mailto:nwootan@... [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> mailto:[email protected] wrote:
 
 Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery
 To: [email protected] mailto:[email protected], "Bert Pool" <BertPool512@...> mailto:BertPool512@..., "Bob Paddock" <bob.paddock@...> mailto:bob.paddock@..., "joel mcclain" <joel_76670@...> mailto:joel_76670@..., "Jon Gentry" <jongen422@...> mailto:jongen422@..., "Mbking42" <mbking42@...> mailto:mbking42@..., "Toby Grotz" <wireless2@...> mailto:wireless2@..., "Phil Rembold" <prembold@...> mailto:prembold@..., "Angel Alvarez" <angel@...> mailto:angel@..., "Fredric Fletcher" <ffletcher@...> mailto:ffletcher@...
 Received: Sunday, October 28, 2018, 9:44 AM
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Jacob!  That would be a rather complex answer
 but here is your
 starting point!
 https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct-thermomagnetic-splitting-of-water-.html https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct-thermomagnetic-splitting-of-water-.html   
 After having been heavily involved in the COLD FUSION
 Research
 back in the 70s and 80s I quickly settled o0n the best
 catalyst in
 electrolytic cells which is pure nickel. I still have
 the cell
 used in the Elemental Replication experiments. 
 
 
 http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm    
 The hidden
 part of this research is the use of a nickel component
 in the
 combustion chamber. Bosch developed 90,000V ignition
 systems to
 enable water injection in gas engine which high
 lighted the
 Graneau HV decomposition of water via HVDC
 discharge!
 My magnetic Battery when run as an electrolytic cell
 to produce
 hydrogen does produce a huge amount of hydrogen gas as
 shown by
 the Dr. Ehrenhaft document.  I would tell you to
 pursue the super
 high Tesla magnetic flux and nickel electrodes in an
 electrolytic
 cell.  The major obstacle to be overcome is the rapid
 collection
 of ions from solution by the 1.3 Tesla flux across a
 .020"
 mechanical gap which quickly takes the cell into a
 super-conduction mode which takes out the driving DC
 power supply.
 You can flush the magnetic gaps with distilled water
 and the gaps
 will show in the meg-ohm range then go to zero ohms
 after a short
 period of running, the gathered ions totally short
 cell. During
 the brief runs there is a huge amount of hydrogen gas
 produced 
 which I burned off as it was generated.  Much can be
 said about
 driving the cell with high frequencies as the Myers
 research
 showed.  Our friend up in Canada at George Wiseman,
 Eagle Research
 is running well ahead of the crowd on the production
 of H-H-O.
 Just for giggles!
 
 
 16 October
 1996
 To: Hal
 Fox,  Fusion Facts
 Elemental
 Replication ?
  
       Around mid
 September
 I put together an
 electrolysis cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold
 Fusion Cell
 with the goal of
 exploring the possibilities of making what is
 termed “Pristine
 Water”.   This water
 which will be used by Homeopaths
 will have had all memory or information
 removed.  This is accomplished by
 recombining monatomic
 hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated in a
 properly
 designed cell.  This is
 the ultimate in purity since this is
 water with conditions at the time of original
 creation.  “Holly Water”is a term
 coined by my dear
 friend and fellow researcher Joe Tyls of
 Vancouver, BC.   After several weeks of
 successful operation
 producing water that had all the earmarks of a
 true “pristine
 water” a fellow
 researcher suggested using an alternate
 electrolyte.   A solution was selected
 that contained 77
 colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the
 easiest
 assimilated into the
 body.   With the
 electrolyte changed the
 cell was put back into operation as before with a
 nice
 recombination burn and
 production of the sought after “pristine
 water”.                                                                                                                                     
        
     After about an
 hour of
 operation the cell
 went absolutely “nuts” with the temperature
 rapidly climbing
 to boiling point
 and the current out of sight. 
 When the
 cell was opened we found a deep red sludge deposit
 which
 shorted the cell
 plates.   Our first
 thought was that the
 electrolytic action precipitated out the colloidal
 minerals
 which caused the
 deposit found.   The 
 electrolyte was allowed
 to settle out the
 precipitate.   After 
 decanting off,  the clear electrolyte
 was
 returned to the
 cell for another run. Again the cell operated
 normally for
 about an hour with a
 normal recombination burn and recovery of the
 water being
 consumed by the cell
 in the splitting action.   Again
 the cell
 temperature and current mirrored the first
 run. 
 Again the cell contained the same amount of
 sludge
 residue.   This process
 was repeated ten (10) times
 with exactly the same results.  
 All of
 the sludge was carefully dried and weighed on an
 electronic
 scale with a five
 decimal
 resolution.                     
 The cell plates and all hardware were
 weighed to
 determine any loss of
 mass that may contribute to the mass gain observed
 in the
 sludge.  Five hundred
 (500) ml of the original
 electrolyte solution used in the cell was vacuum
 distilled to
 determine the
 exact mass of colloidal minerals
 contained. 
 When all factors were considered we came
 out with a
 mass gain of  48 gm
 which cannot be explained by
 conventional
 electrolysis.                      
 
     After talking
 to Dr.
 Robert Bass and Hal
 Fox I learned of a patent that has been filed on
 the
 transmutation of elements
 in the cold fusion cell which is the process that
 Dr. John
 Bockris has been so
 active in.   Both Dr.
 Bass and Hal Fox
 stated that what I was observing is not the same
 as the
 transmutation observed
 in the cold fusion cell since I have a overall
 mass gain and
 not a lateral
 movement of elements in the periodic table toward
 lighter
 elements with a
 resulting heat release.  This
 unusual
 cell operation has caused quite a reaction in the
 scientific
 community.  At this
 time I have built a complete new cell
 with every possible factor which could possibly
 explain the
 mass gain
 considered and documented.  The
 ten (10)
 consecutive runs on the new cell will be completed
 soon and a
 report will be
 forthcoming.   What is
 interesting about
 this phenomenon is that when an eleventh run was
 made with the
 original
 electrolyte exactly the same amount of residue was
 recovered
 as in the previous
 ten
 runs.                                                                       
 
  
 Since
 the same electrolyte is reused each time with only
 distilled
 water being added
 to replace the volume lost by the removal of the
 solids and
 the water recovered
 by the recombination burn we are hard pressed to
 explain the
 observed
 phenomenon.     The
 electrolyte appears
 stronger in mineral concentration and shows no
 sign of
 
 depletion.                                
 
    After conferring
 with
 Joe Tyls we arrived at
 the conclusion that the 77 colloidal minerals
 contained in the
 electrolyte
 provide the atomic templates needed for the
 monatomic hydrogen
 (father of all
 the elements) to replicate selected elements in
 this exotic
 mixture.  If you
 subscribe to the theories of the late
 Walter Russell and his explanation of the octave
 based
 periodic table with
 monatonic hydrogen being what he describes as
 hydrons
 (precursor to hydrogen)
 then it is possible for the replication of
 elements directly
 from energy input
 alone.  This is how all
 matter was
 created in the beginning as described by
 Schappeller in “The
 Physics of the
 Primary State of Matter”.    I
 will keep
 all informed as to our progress and findings in
 this very
 intriguing venture.
  
 Norman
 Wootan
 P.O.
 Box 141049
 Dallas,
 TX 75214
 (214)
 360-0865
  
  
 CC:  Gene Mallove,
 Infinite
 Energy
 CC:  Dr. John
 Bockris, Texas
 A/M
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On 10/28/2018 1:01 AM,
 Jakob Wall
 wall_jakob@... mailto:wall_jakob@...
 [EVGRAY] wrote:
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 Thanks Norman,
 
 
 
 BTW, what is the most effective water split
 device that
 you ever put you hands on?
 
 As HHO researcher for dekades you should be
 able to point
 us directly to the most effective known!
 
 Please be specific about reconstruction of the
 same, since
 we are in public domain it will become public
 knowledge
 and public good. I assume you intend nothing
 else,rigth ?
 
 
 --------------------------------------------
 
 On Sat, 10/27/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@... mailto:nwootan@...
 [EVGRAY]
 <[email protected]> mailto:[email protected]
 wrote:
 
 
 
 Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's
 Magnetic
 Battery [3 Attachments]
 
 To: "Bert Pool" <BertPool512@...> mailto:BertPool512@...,
 "Bob
 Paddock" <bob.paddock@...> mailto:bob.paddock@...,
 "joel mcclain"
 <joel_76670@...> mailto:joel_76670@...,
 "Jon Gentry"
 <jongen422@...> mailto:jongen422@...,
 "Lane Wootan"
 <lanewootan@...> mailto:lanewootan@...,
 "Mbking42"
 <mbking42@...> mailto:mbking42@...,
 "Toby Grotz"
 <wireless2@...> mailto:wireless2@...,
 "Phil Rembold"
 <prembold@...> mailto:prembold@...,
 "Angel Alvarez"
 <angel@...> mailto:angel@...,
 "Fredric Fletcher"
 <ffletcher@...> mailto:ffletcher@...,
 [email protected] mailto:[email protected]
 
 To understand the unwinding of a thread
 leading
 
 to Magnetic
 
 Generating Hydrogen and this Magnetic Battery,
 we have
 
 to dust off
 
 our  9th grade Chemistry Books!
 
 http://www.rexresearch.com/ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm http://www.rexresearch.com/ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm     
 
 I guess Dr.
 
 Ehrenhaft was the first to propose a Magnetic
 Current.
 
 (Jon
 
 Gentry, Your liquid metal vortex helix).
 
 https://revolution-green.com/can-electrolysis-powered-magnets/ https://revolution-green.com/can-electrolysis-powered-magnets/      
 
 Ah! Ha!  more on Magnetic Currents!!!
 
 https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446.html https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446.html
 
 https://www.labmanager.com/white-papers-and-application-notes/2010/05/resistivity-conductivity-measurement-of-purified-water#.W9So9uJRc2w https://www.labmanager.com/white-papers-and-application-notes/2010/05/resistivity-conductivity-measurement-of-purified-water#.W9So9uJRc2w
 
 https://www.askiitians.com/forums/Physical-Chemistry/19/19074/electro-che https://www.askiitians.com/forums/Physical-Chemistry/19/19074/electro-che
 
 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpotential https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpotential
 
 https://www.quora.com/Why-is-oxygen-molecule-paramagnetic-although-it-does-not-contain-any-unpaired-electron https://www.quora.com/Why-is-oxygen-molecule-paramagnetic-although-it-does-not-contain-any-unpaired-electron
 
 https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251580541_The_effect_of_magnetic_force_on_hydrogen_production_efficiency_in_water_electrolysis https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251580541_The_effect_of_magnetic_force_on_hydrogen_production_efficiency_in_water_electrolysis
 
 http://www.physicscentral.com/experiment/physicsathome/electricwhirlpool.cfm http://www.physicscentral.com/experiment/physicsathome/electricwhirlpool.cfm
 
 http://www.linux-host.org/energy/bmagpump.htm http://www.linux-host.org/energy/bmagpump.htm
 
 Now Jon Gentry you have your liquid metal pump
 so
 
 that you can
 
 make the helix tube Vortex! 
 Ferricpetacarbonyl or
 
 micro fine neo
 
 powder to provide the liquid metal for pump
 
 circuit.
 
 Lots of reading here!     Please think
 about the
 
 ramifications of
 
 a Magnetic Current as proposed by Dr.
 Ehrenhaft!
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Well as a sacred cow the project of them is milking me out of every bit of data they can get for their benefit  so rich MC duck can get his billion dollar plane and i get a $1 lolly , all by 3rd party proxy using sock puppets , so its stuck cold until or as minds change in this fucking idiots running the meat bots playing games within their limited mortal minds ...

The other stuff belongs to another reality they cant and are not permitted to reach and will never have from my person , and what i had given will be taken away with what they got from my past incarnation along with the technology given by others ....

the results of their negligence will soon be seen  ....gyroscopic disruption will do its job ! 
and death of the archons will do the other ...


(H) 



    


---In [email protected], <mkjekyll@...> wrote :

 Hector,
 What happened with the guy you were partnering up with locally to make efficient energy solution solar or something?
 
 
 On 11/6/2018 6:13 PM, arkresearch@... mailto:arkresearch@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
 
   Its me and i feel ball-less with limited resources i might feel dead with no chance to experiment on anything , its just a metaphor don't take it on the bad side , Norman belongs in a lab not in a normal house aging like an old cheese ! 
 
 by the way who is willing to donate 2 big stainless steel balls 10 feet in diameter custom made to my specifications .....?
 
 i cant finish that experiment ( for definitely lack of 2 large balls ! ) 
 
 (H) 
 
 
 
 
 ---In [email protected] mailto:[email protected], <mkjekyll@...> mailto:mkjekyll@... wrote :
 
 
 Cmon Hector,
 Bad taste!
 
 The man had a more serious lab than anyone else here and his work speaks for itself.  Maybe he has gained the fortune he desired through R&D and now shitting in tall cotton or gone fishing reaping the rewards of retirement. Notwithstanding is still kind enough to help point us in the right directions around here.
 "Funny–I can look back on a life of achievement, on challenges met, competitors bested, obstacles overcome. I’ve accomplished more than most men, and without the use of my legs. What?What makes a man, Mr. Lebowski?"
 
 On 11/6/2018 8:04 AM, arkresearch@... mailto:arkresearch@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
 
   Dar n ! a Scientist inventor with no lab is like a breeding bull with no balls ! 
 
 
 
 
 ---In [email protected] mailto:[email protected], <nwootan@...> mailto:nwootan@... wrote :
 
 Jacob! You asked me a question and I gave you my opinion!  I'm totally retired at 80 years old and have no lab to experiment in!  Your quote; I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. '' Slow down boy, we get paid for llooking for solutions, not to find them!''   That certainly does not apply to me for I have shared all with the folks on this site.  I find you statement very interesting:  Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours with usual amount of gas looks to me extremely inefficient.   ??????        Care to share where you saw the power of a permanent magnet being used up!   We all here on this site share what ever knowledge we have on the various subjects not seeking any monetary gain in any way! That is my approach!   I just contribute to the dialog when I run across something interesting and think it will assist you guys!   Norm
 
 
 On 11/3/2018 11:32 PM, Jakob Wall wall_jakob@... mailto:wall_jakob@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
 
   Thanks Norman,
 But i actually asced for ''most efficient way'' to split water known to you!
 I realize there are a lot of different technigues to do just that.
 And yes i realize you could give me a rather complex answer. But instead i hope for a 
 rather easy and reproductive answer since i am looking forward to solve my enerrgy 
 problems i just can not live with the momentary (sad and very stupid energy situation)
 I am still not giving up becouse of a couple mistakes and misunderstandings.
 If i would be a car dealer and you would ask me for a most efficient car available on the market
 i would for sure not recommend a Prius, since there are a lot of cars with better fuel economie
 even without being a hybrid and without additional cost like batterys,e-motors and a bunch added ECU's
 
 Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours with usual amount of gas looks to me extremely 
 inefficient.
 Also very expensive HHO-Garage products with output of 1,6 ltr/min.
 Come on, 6 rusty nails and a old car batery does this job, no need to spend 1600 bucks on it.
 I honestly expected solide advise or a honest NO way boy, i just talking around.
 
 I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. '' Slow down boy, we get paid for llooking for
 solutions, not to find them!'' That shoked me deeply and even if i get 150 years old, i will not forget it.
 Thats true treason on mankind and deciving the people. I really hope nobody on this forum only care 
 about what he/she will be doing tomorrow.
 
 Jakob
 
 --------------------------------------------
 On Sun, 10/28/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@... mailto:nwootan@... [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> mailto:[email protected] wrote:
 
 Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery
 To: [email protected] mailto:[email protected], "Bert Pool" <BertPool512@...> mailto:BertPool512@..., "Bob Paddock" <bob.paddock@...> mailto:bob.paddock@..., "joel mcclain" <joel_76670@...> mailto:joel_76670@..., "Jon Gentry" <jongen422@...> mailto:jongen422@..., "Mbking42" <mbking42@...> mailto:mbking42@..., "Toby Grotz" <wireless2@...> mailto:wireless2@..., "Phil Rembold" <prembold@...> mailto:prembold@..., "Angel Alvarez" <angel@...> mailto:angel@..., "Fredric Fletcher" <ffletcher@...> mailto:ffletcher@...
 Received: Sunday, October 28, 2018, 9:44 AM
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Jacob!  That would be a rather complex answer
 but here is your
 starting point!
 https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct-thermomagnetic-splitting-of-water-.html https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct-thermomagnetic-splitting-of-water-.html   
 After having been heavily involved in the COLD FUSION
 Research
 back in the 70s and 80s I quickly settled o0n the best
 catalyst in
 electrolytic cells which is pure nickel. I still have
 the cell
 used in the Elemental Replication experiments. 
 
 
 http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm    
 The hidden
 part of this research is the use of a nickel component
 in the
 combustion chamber. Bosch developed 90,000V ignition
 systems to
 enable water injection in gas engine which high
 lighted the
 Graneau HV decomposition of water via HVDC
 discharge!
 My magnetic Battery when run as an electrolytic cell
 to produce
 hydrogen does produce a huge amount of hydrogen gas as
 shown by
 the Dr. Ehrenhaft document.  I would tell you to
 pursue the super
 high Tesla magnetic flux and nickel electrodes in an
 electrolytic
 cell.  The major obstacle to be overcome is the rapid
 collection
 of ions from solution by the 1.3 Tesla flux across a
 .020"
 mechanical gap which quickly takes the cell into a
 super-conduction mode which takes out the driving DC
 power supply.
 You can flush the magnetic gaps with distilled water
 and the gaps
 will show in the meg-ohm range then go to zero ohms
 after a short
 period of running, the gathered ions totally short
 cell. During
 the brief runs there is a huge amount of hydrogen gas
 produced 
 which I burned off as it was generated.  Much can be
 said about
 driving the cell with high frequencies as the Myers
 research
 showed.  Our friend up in Canada at George Wiseman,
 Eagle Research
 is running well ahead of the crowd on the production
 of H-H-O.
 Just for giggles!
 
 
 16 October
 1996
 To: Hal
 Fox,  Fusion Facts
 Elemental
 Replication ?
  
       Around mid
 September
 I put together an
 electrolysis cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold
 Fusion Cell
 with the goal of
 exploring the possibilities of making what is
 termed “Pristine
 Water”.   This water
 which will be used by Homeopaths
 will have had all memory or information
 removed.  This is accomplished by
 recombining monatomic
 hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated in a
 properly
 designed cell.  This is
 the ultimate in purity since this is
 water with conditions at the time of original
 creation.  “Holly Water”is a term
 coined by my dear
 friend and fellow researcher Joe Tyls of
 Vancouver, BC.   After several weeks of
 successful operation
 producing water that had all the earmarks of a
 true “pristine
 water” a fellow
 researcher suggested using an alternate
 electrolyte.   A solution was selected
 that contained 77
 colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the
 easiest
 assimilated into the
 body.   With the
 electrolyte changed the
 cell was put back into operation as before with a
 nice
 recombination burn and
 production of the sought after “pristine
 water”.                                                                                                                                     
        
     After about an
 hour of
 operation the cell
 went absolutely “nuts” with the temperature
 rapidly climbing
 to boiling point
 and the current out of sight. 
 When the
 cell was opened we found a deep red sludge deposit
 which
 shorted the cell
 plates.   Our first
 thought was that the
 electrolytic action precipitated out the colloidal
 minerals
 which caused the
 deposit found.   The 
 electrolyte was allowed
 to settle out the
 precipitate.   After 
 decanting off,  the clear electrolyte
 was
 returned to the
 cell for another run. Again the cell operated
 normally for
 about an hour with a
 normal recombination burn and recovery of the
 water being
 consumed by the cell
 in the splitting action.   Again
 the cell
 temperature and current mirrored the first
 run. 
 Again the cell contained the same amount of
 sludge
 residue.   This process
 was repeated ten (10) times
 with exactly the same results.  
 All of
 the sludge was carefully dried and weighed on an
 electronic
 scale with a five
 decimal
 resolution.                     
 The cell plates and all hardware were
 weighed to
 determine any loss of
 mass that may contribute to the mass gain observed
 in the
 sludge.  Five hundred
 (500) ml of the original
 electrolyte solution used in the cell was vacuum
 distilled to
 determine the
 exact mass of colloidal minerals
 contained. 
 When all factors were considered we came
 out with a
 mass gain of  48 gm
 which cannot be explained by
 conventional
 electrolysis.                      
 
     After talking
 to Dr.
 Robert Bass and Hal
 Fox I learned of a patent that has been filed on
 the
 transmutation of elements
 in the cold fusion cell which is the process that
 Dr. John
 Bockris has been so
 active in.   Both Dr.
 Bass and Hal Fox
 stated that what I was observing is not the same
 as the
 transmutation observed
 in the cold fusion cell since I have a overall
 mass gain and
 not a lateral
 movement of elements in the periodic table toward
 lighter
 elements with a
 resulting heat release.  This
 unusual
 cell operation has caused quite a reaction in the
 scientific
 community.  At this
 time I have built a complete new cell
 with every possible factor which could possibly
 explain the
 mass gain
 considered and documented.  The
 ten (10)
 consecutive runs on the new cell will be completed
 soon and a
 report will be
 forthcoming.   What is
 interesting about
 this phenomenon is that when an eleventh run was
 made with the
 original
 electrolyte exactly the same amount of residue was
 recovered
 as in the previous
 ten
 runs.                                                                       
 
  
 Since
 the same electrolyte is reused each time with only
 distilled
 water being added
 to replace the volume lost by the removal of the
 solids and
 the water recovered
 by the recombination burn we are hard pressed to
 explain the
 observed
 phenomenon.     The
 electrolyte appears
 stronger in mineral concentration and shows no
 sign of
 
 depletion.                                
 
    After conferring
 with
 Joe Tyls we arrived at
 the conclusion that the 77 colloidal minerals
 contained in the
 electrolyte
 provide the atomic templates needed for the
 monatomic hydrogen
 (father of all
 the elements) to replicate selected elements in
 this exotic
 mixture.  If you
 subscribe to the theories of the late
 Walter Russell and his explanation of the octave
 based
 periodic table with
 monatonic hydrogen being what he describes as
 hydrons
 (precursor to hydrogen)
 then it is possible for the replication of
 elements directly
 from energy input
 alone.  This is how all
 matter was
 created in the beginning as described by
 Schappeller in “The
 Physics of the
 Primary State of Matter”.    I
 will keep
 all informed as to our progress and findings in
 this very
 intriguing venture.
  
 Norman
 Wootan
 P.O.
 Box 141049
 Dallas,
 TX 75214
 (214)
 360-0865
  
  
 CC:  Gene Mallove,
 Infinite
 Energy
 CC:  Dr. John
 Bockris, Texas
 A/M
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On 10/28/2018 1:01 AM,
 Jakob Wall
 wall_jakob@... mailto:wall_jakob@...
 [EVGRAY] wrote:
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 Thanks Norman,
 
 
 
 BTW, what is the most effective water split
 device that
 you ever put you hands on?
 
 As HHO researcher for dekades you should be
 able to point
 us directly to the most effective known!
 
 Please be specific about reconstruction of the
 same, since
 we are in public domain it will become public
 knowledge
 and public good. I assume you intend nothing
 else,rigth ?
 
 
 --------------------------------------------
 
 On Sat, 10/27/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@... mailto:nwootan@...
 [EVGRAY]
 <[email protected]> mailto:[email protected]
 wrote:
 
 
 
 Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's
 Magnetic
 Battery [3 Attachments]
 
 To: "Bert Pool" <BertPool512@...> mailto:BertPool512@...,
 "Bob
 Paddock" <bob.paddock@...> mailto:bob.paddock@...,
 "joel mcclain"
 <joel_76670@...> mailto:joel_76670@...,
 "Jon Gentry"
 <jongen422@...> mailto:jongen422@...,
 "Lane Wootan"
 <lanewootan@...> mailto:lanewootan@...,
 "Mbking42"
 <mbking42@...> mailto:mbking42@...,
 "Toby Grotz"
 <wireless2@...> mailto:wireless2@...,
 "Phil Rembold"
 <prembold@...> mailto:prembold@...,
 "Angel Alvarez"
 <angel@...> mailto:angel@...,
 "Fredric Fletcher"
 <ffletcher@...> mailto:ffletcher@...,
 [email protected] mailto:[email protected]
 
 To understand the unwinding of a thread
 leading
 
 to Magnetic
 
 Generating Hydrogen and this Magnetic Battery,
 we have
 
 to dust off
 
 our  9th grade Chemistry Books!
 
 http://www.rexresearch.com/ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm http://www.rexresearch.com/ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm     
 
 I guess Dr.
 
 Ehrenhaft was the first to propose a Magnetic
 Current.
 
 (Jon
 
 Gentry, Your liquid metal vortex helix).
 
 https://revolution-green.com/can-electrolysis-powered-magnets/ https://revolution-green.com/can-electrolysis-powered-magnets/      
 
 Ah! Ha!  more on Magnetic Currents!!!
 
 https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446.html https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446.html
 
 https://www.labmanager.com/white-papers-and-application-notes/2010/05/resistivity-conductivity-measurement-of-purified-water#.W9So9uJRc2w https://www.labmanager.com/white-papers-and-application-notes/2010/05/resistivity-conductivity-measurement-of-purified-water#.W9So9uJRc2w
 
 https://www.askiitians.com/forums/Physical-Chemistry/19/19074/electro-che https://www.askiitians.com/forums/Physical-Chemistry/19/19074/electro-che
 
 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpotential https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpotential
 
 https://www.quora.com/Why-is-oxygen-molecule-paramagnetic-although-it-does-not-contain-any-unpaired-electron https://www.quora.com/Why-is-oxygen-molecule-paramagnetic-although-it-does-not-contain-any-unpaired-electron
 
 https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251580541_The_effect_of_magnetic_force_on_hydrogen_production_efficiency_in_water_electrolysis https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251580541_The_effect_of_magnetic_force_on_hydrogen_production_efficiency_in_water_electrolysis
 
 http://www.physicscentral.com/experiment/physicsathome/electricwhirlpool.cfm http://www.physicscentral.com/experiment/physicsathome/electricwhirlpool.cfm
 
 http://www.linux-host.org/energy/bmagpump.htm http://www.linux-host.org/energy/bmagpump.htm
 
 Now Jon Gentry you have your liquid metal pump
 so
 
 that you can
 
 make the helix tube Vortex! 
 Ferricpetacarbonyl or
 
 micro fine neo
 
 powder to provide the liquid metal for pump
 
 circuit.
 
 Lots of reading here!     Please think
 about the
 
 ramifications of
 
 a Magnetic Current as proposed by Dr.
 Ehrenhaft!
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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By the way ... i can hit mega millions or the power ball  . i never will not have a lab i can work in,  that is worst than death , you have no idea of the technology that had being lost by the greedy fucking bastards fucking my life , they will loose all they have  "soon" because it had being engineered that way by accumulative bad karma, i have another lab they will never reach or be able to intercept or destroy and that will decide their fate ..... they will be fucked hard ! 



(H)    

---In [email protected], <mkjekyll@...> wrote :

 Cmon Hector,
 Bad taste!
 
 The man had a more serious lab than anyone else here and his work speaks for itself.  Maybe he has gained the fortune he desired through R&D and now shitting in tall cotton or gone fishing reaping the rewards of retirement. Notwithstanding is still kind enough to help point us in the right directions around here.
 "Funny–I can look back on a life of achievement, on challenges met, competitors bested, obstacles overcome. I’ve accomplished more than most men, and without the use of my legs. What?What makes a man, Mr. Lebowski?"
 
 On 11/6/2018 8:04 AM, arkresearch@... mailto:arkresearch@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
 
   Dar n ! a Scientist inventor with no lab is like a breeding bull with no balls ! 
 
 
 
 
 ---In [email protected] mailto:[email protected], <nwootan@...> mailto:nwootan@... wrote :
 
 Jacob! You asked me a question and I gave you my opinion!  I'm totally retired at 80 years old and have no lab to experiment in!  Your quote; I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. '' Slow down boy, we get paid for llooking for solutions, not to find them!''   That certainly does not apply to me for I have shared all with the folks on this site.  I find you statement very interesting:  Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours with usual amount of gas looks to me extremely inefficient.   ??????        Care to share where you saw the power of a permanent magnet being used up!   We all here on this site share what ever knowledge we have on the various subjects not seeking any monetary gain in any way! That is my approach!   I just contribute to the dialog when I run across something interesting and think it will assist you guys!   Norm
 
 
 On 11/3/2018 11:32 PM, Jakob Wall wall_jakob@... mailto:wall_jakob@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
 
   Thanks Norman,
 But i actually asced for ''most efficient way'' to split water known to you!
 I realize there are a lot of different technigues to do just that.
 And yes i realize you could give me a rather complex answer. But instead i hope for a 
 rather easy and reproductive answer since i am looking forward to solve my enerrgy 
 problems i just can not live with the momentary (sad and very stupid energy situation)
 I am still not giving up becouse of a couple mistakes and misunderstandings.
 If i would be a car dealer and you would ask me for a most efficient car available on the market
 i would for sure not recommend a Prius, since there are a lot of cars with better fuel economie
 even without being a hybrid and without additional cost like batterys,e-motors and a bunch added ECU's
 
 Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours with usual amount of gas looks to me extremely 
 inefficient.
 Also very expensive HHO-Garage products with output of 1,6 ltr/min.
 Come on, 6 rusty nails and a old car batery does this job, no need to spend 1600 bucks on it.
 I honestly expected solide advise or a honest NO way boy, i just talking around.
 
 I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. '' Slow down boy, we get paid for llooking for
 solutions, not to find them!'' That shoked me deeply and even if i get 150 years old, i will not forget it.
 Thats true treason on mankind and deciving the people. I really hope nobody on this forum only care 
 about what he/she will be doing tomorrow.
 
 Jakob
 
 --------------------------------------------
 On Sun, 10/28/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@... mailto:nwootan@... [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> mailto:[email protected] wrote:
 
 Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery
 To: [email protected] mailto:[email protected], "Bert Pool" <BertPool512@...> mailto:BertPool512@..., "Bob Paddock" <bob.paddock@...> mailto:bob.paddock@..., "joel mcclain" <joel_76670@...> mailto:joel_76670@..., "Jon Gentry" <jongen422@...> mailto:jongen422@..., "Mbking42" <mbking42@...> mailto:mbking42@..., "Toby Grotz" <wireless2@...> mailto:wireless2@..., "Phil Rembold" <prembold@...> mailto:prembold@..., "Angel Alvarez" <angel@...> mailto:angel@..., "Fredric Fletcher" <ffletcher@...> mailto:ffletcher@...
 Received: Sunday, October 28, 2018, 9:44 AM
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Jacob!  That would be a rather complex answer
 but here is your
 starting point!
 https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct-thermomagnetic-splitting-of-water-.html https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct-thermomagnetic-splitting-of-water-.html   
 After having been heavily involved in the COLD FUSION
 Research
 back in the 70s and 80s I quickly settled o0n the best
 catalyst in
 electrolytic cells which is pure nickel. I still have
 the cell
 used in the Elemental Replication experiments. 
 
 
 http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm    
 The hidden
 part of this research is the use of a nickel component
 in the
 combustion chamber. Bosch developed 90,000V ignition
 systems to
 enable water injection in gas engine which high
 lighted the
 Graneau HV decomposition of water via HVDC
 discharge!
 My magnetic Battery when run as an electrolytic cell
 to produce
 hydrogen does produce a huge amount of hydrogen gas as
 shown by
 the Dr. Ehrenhaft document.  I would tell you to
 pursue the super
 high Tesla magnetic flux and nickel electrodes in an
 electrolytic
 cell.  The major obstacle to be overcome is the rapid
 collection
 of ions from solution by the 1.3 Tesla flux across a
 .020"
 mechanical gap which quickly takes the cell into a
 super-conduction mode which takes out the driving DC
 power supply.
 You can flush the magnetic gaps with distilled water
 and the gaps
 will show in the meg-ohm range then go to zero ohms
 after a short
 period of running, the gathered ions totally short
 cell. During
 the brief runs there is a huge amount of hydrogen gas
 produced 
 which I burned off as it was generated.  Much can be
 said about
 driving the cell with high frequencies as the Myers
 research
 showed.  Our friend up in Canada at George Wiseman,
 Eagle Research
 is running well ahead of the crowd on the production
 of H-H-O.
 Just for giggles!
 
 
 16 October
 1996
 To: Hal
 Fox,  Fusion Facts
 Elemental
 Replication ?
  
       Around mid
 September
 I put together an
 electrolysis cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold
 Fusion Cell
 with the goal of
 exploring the possibilities of making what is
 termed “Pristine
 Water”.   This water
 which will be used by Homeopaths
 will have had all memory or information
 removed.  This is accomplished by
 recombining monatomic
 hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated in a
 properly
 designed cell.  This is
 the ultimate in purity since this is
 water with conditions at the time of original
 creation.  “Holly Water”is a term
 coined by my dear
 friend and fellow researcher Joe Tyls of
 Vancouver, BC.   After several weeks of
 successful operation
 producing water that had all the earmarks of a
 true “pristine
 water” a fellow
 researcher suggested using an alternate
 electrolyte.   A solution was selected
 that contained 77
 colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the
 easiest
 assimilated into the
 body.   With the
 electrolyte changed the
 cell was put back into operation as before with a
 nice
 recombination burn and
 production of the sought after “pristine
 water”.                                                                                                                                     
        
     After about an
 hour of
 operation the cell
 went absolutely “nuts” with the temperature
 rapidly climbing
 to boiling point
 and the current out of sight. 
 When the
 cell was opened we found a deep red sludge deposit
 which
 shorted the cell
 plates.   Our first
 thought was that the
 electrolytic action precipitated out the colloidal
 minerals
 which caused the
 deposit found.   The 
 electrolyte was allowed
 to settle out the
 precipitate.   After 
 decanting off,  the clear electrolyte
 was
 returned to the
 cell for another run. Again the cell operated
 normally for
 about an hour with a
 normal recombination burn and recovery of the
 water being
 consumed by the cell
 in the splitting action.   Again
 the cell
 temperature and current mirrored the first
 run. 
 Again the cell contained the same amount of
 sludge
 residue.   This process
 was repeated ten (10) times
 with exactly the same results.  
 All of
 the sludge was carefully dried and weighed on an
 electronic
 scale with a five
 decimal
 resolution.                     
 The cell plates and all hardware were
 weighed to
 determine any loss of
 mass that may contribute to the mass gain observed
 in the
 sludge.  Five hundred
 (500) ml of the original
 electrolyte solution used in the cell was vacuum
 distilled to
 determine the
 exact mass of colloidal minerals
 contained. 
 When all factors were considered we came
 out with a
 mass gain of  48 gm
 which cannot be explained by
 conventional
 electrolysis.                      
 
     After talking
 to Dr.
 Robert Bass and Hal
 Fox I learned of a patent that has been filed on
 the
 transmutation of elements
 in the cold fusion cell which is the process that
 Dr. John
 Bockris has been so
 active in.   Both Dr.
 Bass and Hal Fox
 stated that what I was observing is not the same
 as the
 transmutation observed
 in the cold fusion cell since I have a overall
 mass gain and
 not a lateral
 movement of elements in the periodic table toward
 lighter
 elements with a
 resulting heat release.  This
 unusual
 cell operation has caused quite a reaction in the
 scientific
 community.  At this
 time I have built a complete new cell
 with every possible factor which could possibly
 explain the
 mass gain
 considered and documented.  The
 ten (10)
 consecutive runs on the new cell will be completed
 soon and a
 report will be
 forthcoming.   What is
 interesting about
 this phenomenon is that when an eleventh run was
 made with the
 original
 electrolyte exactly the same amount of residue was
 recovered
 as in the previous
 ten
 runs.                                                                       
 
  
 Since
 the same electrolyte is reused each time with only
 distilled
 water being added
 to replace the volume lost by the removal of the
 solids and
 the water recovered
 by the recombination burn we are hard pressed to
 explain the
 observed
 phenomenon.     The
 electrolyte appears
 stronger in mineral concentration and shows no
 sign of
 
 depletion.                                
 
    After conferring
 with
 Joe Tyls we arrived at
 the conclusion that the 77 colloidal minerals
 contained in the
 electrolyte
 provide the atomic templates needed for the
 monatomic hydrogen
 (father of all
 the elements) to replicate selected elements in
 this exotic
 mixture.  If you
 subscribe to the theories of the late
 Walter Russell and his explanation of the octave
 based
 periodic table with
 monatonic hydrogen being what he describes as
 hydrons
 (precursor to hydrogen)
 then it is possible for the replication of
 elements directly
 from energy input
 alone.  This is how all
 matter was
 created in the beginning as described by
 Schappeller in “The
 Physics of the
 Primary State of Matter”.    I
 will keep
 all informed as to our progress and findings in
 this very
 intriguing venture.
  
 Norman
 Wootan
 P.O.
 Box 141049
 Dallas,
 TX 75214
 (214)
 360-0865
  
  
 CC:  Gene Mallove,
 Infinite
 Energy
 CC:  Dr. John
 Bockris, Texas
 A/M
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On 10/28/2018 1:01 AM,
 Jakob Wall
 wall_jakob@... mailto:wall_jakob@...
 [EVGRAY] wrote:
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 Thanks Norman,
 
 
 
 BTW, what is the most effective water split
 device that
 you ever put you hands on?
 
 As HHO researcher for dekades you should be
 able to point
 us directly to the most effective known!
 
 Please be specific about reconstruction of the
 same, since
 we are in public domain it will become public
 knowledge
 and public good. I assume you intend nothing
 else,rigth ?
 
 
 --------------------------------------------
 
 On Sat, 10/27/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@... mailto:nwootan@...
 [EVGRAY]
 <[email protected]> mailto:[email protected]
 wrote:
 
 
 
 Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's
 Magnetic
 Battery [3 Attachments]
 
 To: "Bert Pool" <BertPool512@...> mailto:BertPool512@...,
 "Bob
 Paddock" <bob.paddock@...> mailto:bob.paddock@...,
 "joel mcclain"
 <joel_76670@...> mailto:joel_76670@...,
 "Jon Gentry"
 <jongen422@...> mailto:jongen422@...,
 "Lane Wootan"
 <lanewootan@...> mailto:lanewootan@...,
 "Mbking42"
 <mbking42@...> mailto:mbking42@...,
 "Toby Grotz"
 <wireless2@...> mailto:wireless2@...,
 "Phil Rembold"
 <prembold@...> mailto:prembold@...,
 "Angel Alvarez"
 <angel@...> mailto:angel@...,
 "Fredric Fletcher"
 <ffletcher@...> mailto:ffletcher@...,
 [email protected] mailto:[email protected]
 
 To understand the unwinding of a thread
 leading
 
 to Magnetic
 
 Generating Hydrogen and this Magnetic Battery,
 we have
 
 to dust off
 
 our  9th grade Chemistry Books!
 
 http://www.rexresearch.com/ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm http://www.rexresearch.com/ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm     
 
 I guess Dr.
 
 Ehrenhaft was the first to propose a Magnetic
 Current.
 
 (Jon
 
 Gentry, Your liquid metal vortex helix).
 
 https://revolution-green.com/can-electrolysis-powered-magnets/ https://revolution-green.com/can-electrolysis-powered-magnets/      
 
 Ah! Ha!  more on Magnetic Currents!!!
 
 https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446.html https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446.html
 
 https://www.labmanager.com/white-papers-and-application-notes/2010/05/resistivity-conductivity-measurement-of-purified-water#.W9So9uJRc2w https://www.labmanager.com/white-papers-and-application-notes/2010/05/resistivity-conductivity-measurement-of-purified-water#.W9So9uJRc2w
 
 https://www.askiitians.com/forums/Physical-Chemistry/19/19074/electro-che https://www.askiitians.com/forums/Physical-Chemistry/19/19074/electro-che
 
 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpotential https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpotential
 
 https://www.quora.com/Why-is-oxygen-molecule-paramagnetic-although-it-does-not-contain-any-unpaired-electron https://www.quora.com/Why-is-oxygen-molecule-paramagnetic-although-it-does-not-contain-any-unpaired-electron
 
 https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251580541_The_effect_of_magnetic_force_on_hydrogen_production_efficiency_in_water_electrolysis https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251580541_The_effect_of_magnetic_force_on_hydrogen_production_efficiency_in_water_electrolysis
 
 http://www.physicscentral.com/experiment/physicsathome/electricwhirlpool.cfm http://www.physicscentral.com/experiment/physicsathome/electricwhirlpool.cfm
 
 http://www.linux-host.org/energy/bmagpump.htm http://www.linux-host.org/energy/bmagpump.htm
 
 Now Jon Gentry you have your liquid metal pump
 so
 
 that you can
 
 make the helix tube Vortex! 
 Ferricpetacarbonyl or
 
 micro fine neo
 
 powder to provide the liquid metal for pump
 
 circuit.
 
 Lots of reading here!     Please think
 about the
 
 ramifications of
 
 a Magnetic Current as proposed by Dr.
 Ehrenhaft!
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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