Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery

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Hector,

What happened with the guy you were partnering up with locally to make
efficient energy solution solar or something?


On 11/6/2018 6:13 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
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> Its me and i feel ball-less with limited resources i might feel dead
> with no chance to experiment on anything , its just a metaphor don't
> take it on the bad side , Norman belongs in a lab not in a normal
> house aging like an old cheese !
>
> by the way who is willing to donate 2 big stainless steel balls 10
> feet in diameter custom made to my specifications .....?
>
> i cant finish that experiment ( for definitely lack of 2 large balls ! )
>
> (H)
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> ---In [email protected], <mkjekyll@...> wrote :
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> Cmon Hector,
>
> Bad taste!
>
> The man had a more serious lab than anyone else here and his work
> speaks for itself.  Maybe he has gained the fortune he desired through
> R&D and now shitting in tall cotton or gone fishing reaping the
> rewards of retirement. Notwithstanding is still kind enough to help
> point us in the right directions around here.
>
> "*Funny–I can look back on a life of achievement, on challenges met,
> competitors bested, obstacles overcome. I’ve accomplished more than
> most men, and without the use of my legs. What?What makes a man, Mr.
> Lebowski?"*
>
>
> On 11/6/2018 8:04 AM, arkresearch@... <mailto:arkresearch@...>
> [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>>      
>>
>>     Dar n ! a Scientist inventor with no lab is like a breeding bull
>>     with no balls !
>>
>>     Balls Cow GIF - Balls Cow WingDangDoodle GIFs
>>
>>
>>
>>     ---In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>,
>>     <nwootan@...> <mailto:nwootan@...> wrote :
>>
>>     Jacob! You asked me a question and I gave you my opinion!  I'm
>>     totally retired at 80 years old and have no lab to experiment
>>     in!  Your quote; I heard once a phrase from a researcher who
>>     said. '' Slow down boy, we get paid for llooking for solutions,
>>     not to find them!''   That certainly does not apply to me for I
>>     have shared all with the folks on this site.  I find you
>>     statement very interesting:  Technics that use up 10 % of a
>>     magnet in 24 hours with usual amount of gas looks to me extremely
>>     inefficient.   ??????        Care to share where you saw the
>>     power of a permanent magnet being used up!   We all here on this
>>     site share what ever knowledge we have on the various subjects
>>     not seeking any monetary gain in any way! That is my approach!  
>>     I just contribute to the dialog when I run across something
>>     interesting and think it will assist you guys!   Norm
>>
>>
>>     On 11/3/2018 11:32 PM, Jakob Wall wall_jakob@...
>>     <mailto:wall_jakob@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
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>>>          
>>>
>>>         Thanks Norman,
>>>         But i actually asced for ''most efficient way'' to split
>>>         water known to you!
>>>         I realize there are a lot of different technigues to do just
>>>         that.
>>>         And yes i realize you could give me a rather complex answer.
>>>         But instead i hope for a
>>>         rather easy and reproductive answer since i am looking
>>>         forward to solve my enerrgy
>>>         problems i just can not live with the momentary (sad and
>>>         very stupid energy situation)
>>>         I am still not giving up becouse of a couple mistakes and
>>>         misunderstandings.
>>>         If i would be a car dealer and you would ask me for a most
>>>         efficient car available on the market
>>>         i would for sure not recommend a Prius, since there are a
>>>         lot of cars with better fuel economie
>>>         even without being a hybrid and without additional cost like
>>>         batterys,e-motors and a bunch added ECU's
>>>
>>>         Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours with usual
>>>         amount of gas looks to me extremely
>>>         inefficient.
>>>         Also very expensive HHO-Garage products with output of 1,6
>>>         ltr/min.
>>>         Come on, 6 rusty nails and a old car batery does this job,
>>>         no need to spend 1600 bucks on it.
>>>         I honestly expected solide advise or a honest NO way boy, i
>>>         just talking around.
>>>
>>>         I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. '' Slow
>>>         down boy, we get paid for llooking for
>>>         solutions, not to find them!'' That shoked me deeply and
>>>         even if i get 150 years old, i will not forget it.
>>>         Thats true treason on mankind and deciving the people. I
>>>         really hope nobody on this forum only care
>>>         about what he/she will be doing tomorrow.
>>>
>>>         Jakob
>>>
>>>         --------------------------------------------
>>>         On Sun, 10/28/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@...
>>>         <mailto:nwootan@...> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]>
>>>         <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>         Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery
>>>         To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>,
>>>         "Bert Pool" <BertPool512@...> <mailto:BertPool512@...>, "Bob
>>>         Paddock" <bob.paddock@...> <mailto:bob.paddock@...>, "joel
>>>         mcclain" <joel_76670@...> <mailto:joel_76670@...>, "Jon
>>>         Gentry" <jongen422@...> <mailto:jongen422@...>, "Mbking42"
>>>         <mbking42@...> <mailto:mbking42@...>, "Toby Grotz"
>>>         <wireless2@...> <mailto:wireless2@...>, "Phil Rembold"
>>>         <prembold@...> <mailto:prembold@...>, "Angel Alvarez"
>>>         <angel@...> <mailto:angel@...>, "Fredric Fletcher"
>>>         <ffletcher@...> <mailto:ffletcher@...>
>>>         Received: Sunday, October 28, 2018, 9:44 AM
>>>
>>>
>>>          
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>>>
>>>         Jacob!  That would be a rather complex answer
>>>         but here is your
>>>         starting point!
>>>         https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct-thermomagnetic-splitting-of-water-.html   
>>>         After having been heavily involved in the COLD FUSION
>>>         Research
>>>         back in the 70s and 80s I quickly settled o0n the best
>>>         catalyst in
>>>         electrolytic cells which is pure nickel. I still have
>>>         the cell
>>>         used in the Elemental Replication experiments.
>>>
>>>
>>>         http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm    
>>>         The hidden
>>>         part of this research is the use of a nickel component
>>>         in the
>>>         combustion chamber. Bosch developed 90,000V ignition
>>>         systems to
>>>         enable water injection in gas engine which high
>>>         lighted the
>>>         Graneau HV decomposition of water via HVDC
>>>         discharge!
>>>         My magnetic Battery when run as an electrolytic cell
>>>         to produce
>>>         hydrogen does produce a huge amount of hydrogen gas as
>>>         shown by
>>>         the Dr. Ehrenhaft document.  I would tell you to
>>>         pursue the super
>>>         high Tesla magnetic flux and nickel electrodes in an
>>>         electrolytic
>>>         cell.  The major obstacle to be overcome is the rapid
>>>         collection
>>>         of ions from solution by the 1.3 Tesla flux across a
>>>         .020"
>>>         mechanical gap which quickly takes the cell into a
>>>         super-conduction mode which takes out the driving DC
>>>         power supply.
>>>         You can flush the magnetic gaps with distilled water
>>>         and the gaps
>>>         will show in the meg-ohm range then go to zero ohms
>>>         after a short
>>>         period of running, the gathered ions totally short
>>>         cell. During
>>>         the brief runs there is a huge amount of hydrogen gas
>>>         produced 
>>>         which I burned off as it was generated.  Much can be
>>>         said about
>>>         driving the cell with high frequencies as the Myers
>>>         research
>>>         showed.  Our friend up in Canada at George Wiseman,
>>>         Eagle Research
>>>         is running well ahead of the crowd on the production
>>>         of H-H-O.
>>>         Just for giggles!
>>>
>>>
>>>         16 October
>>>         1996
>>>         To: Hal
>>>         Fox,  Fusion Facts
>>>         Elemental
>>>         Replication ?
>>>          
>>>               Around mid
>>>         September
>>>         I put together an
>>>         electrolysis cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold
>>>         Fusion Cell
>>>         with the goal of
>>>         exploring the possibilities of making what is
>>>         termed “Pristine
>>>         Water”.   This water
>>>         which will be used by Homeopaths
>>>         will have had all memory or information
>>>         removed.  This is accomplished by
>>>         recombining monatomic
>>>         hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated in a
>>>         properly
>>>         designed cell.  This is
>>>         the ultimate in purity since this is
>>>         water with conditions at the time of original
>>>         creation.  “Holly Water”is a term
>>>         coined by my dear
>>>         friend and fellow researcher Joe Tyls of
>>>         Vancouver, BC.   After several weeks of
>>>         successful operation
>>>         producing water that had all the earmarks of a
>>>         true “pristine
>>>         water” a fellow
>>>         researcher suggested using an alternate
>>>         electrolyte.   A solution was selected
>>>         that contained 77
>>>         colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the
>>>         easiest
>>>         assimilated into the
>>>         body.   With the
>>>         electrolyte changed the
>>>         cell was put back into operation as before with a
>>>         nice
>>>         recombination burn and
>>>         production of the sought after “pristine
>>>         water”.                                                                                                                                     
>>>                
>>>             After about an
>>>         hour of
>>>         operation the cell
>>>         went absolutely “nuts” with the temperature
>>>         rapidly climbing
>>>         to boiling point
>>>         and the current out of sight. 
>>>         When the
>>>         cell was opened we found a deep red sludge deposit
>>>         which
>>>         shorted the cell
>>>         plates.   Our first
>>>         thought was that the
>>>         electrolytic action precipitated out the colloidal
>>>         minerals
>>>         which caused the
>>>         deposit found.   The 
>>>         electrolyte was allowed
>>>         to settle out the
>>>         precipitate.   After 
>>>         decanting off,  the clear electrolyte
>>>         was
>>>         returned to the
>>>         cell for another run. Again the cell operated
>>>         normally for
>>>         about an hour with a
>>>         normal recombination burn and recovery of the
>>>         water being
>>>         consumed by the cell
>>>         in the splitting action.   Again
>>>         the cell
>>>         temperature and current mirrored the first
>>>         run. 
>>>         Again the cell contained the same amount of
>>>         sludge
>>>         residue.   This process
>>>         was repeated ten (10) times
>>>         with exactly the same results.  
>>>         All of
>>>         the sludge was carefully dried and weighed on an
>>>         electronic
>>>         scale with a five
>>>         decimal
>>>         resolution.                     
>>>         The cell plates and all hardware were
>>>         weighed to
>>>         determine any loss of
>>>         mass that may contribute to the mass gain observed
>>>         in the
>>>         sludge.  Five hundred
>>>         (500) ml of the original
>>>         electrolyte solution used in the cell was vacuum
>>>         distilled to
>>>         determine the
>>>         exact mass of colloidal minerals
>>>         contained. 
>>>         When all factors were considered we came
>>>         out with a
>>>         mass gain of  48 gm
>>>         which cannot be explained by
>>>         conventional
>>>         electrolysis.                      
>>>
>>>             After talking
>>>         to Dr.
>>>         Robert Bass and Hal
>>>         Fox I learned of a patent that has been filed on
>>>         the
>>>         transmutation of elements
>>>         in the cold fusion cell which is the process that
>>>         Dr. John
>>>         Bockris has been so
>>>         active in.   Both Dr.
>>>         Bass and Hal Fox
>>>         stated that what I was observing is not the same
>>>         as the
>>>         transmutation observed
>>>         in the cold fusion cell since I have a overall
>>>         mass gain and
>>>         not a lateral
>>>         movement of elements in the periodic table toward
>>>         lighter
>>>         elements with a
>>>         resulting heat release.  This
>>>         unusual
>>>         cell operation has caused quite a reaction in the
>>>         scientific
>>>         community.  At this
>>>         time I have built a complete new cell
>>>         with every possible factor which could possibly
>>>         explain the
>>>         mass gain
>>>         considered and documented.  The
>>>         ten (10)
>>>         consecutive runs on the new cell will be completed
>>>         soon and a
>>>         report will be
>>>         forthcoming.   What is
>>>         interesting about
>>>         this phenomenon is that when an eleventh run was
>>>         made with the
>>>         original
>>>         electrolyte exactly the same amount of residue was
>>>         recovered
>>>         as in the previous
>>>         ten
>>>         runs.                                                                       
>>>
>>>          
>>>         Since
>>>         the same electrolyte is reused each time with only
>>>         distilled
>>>         water being added
>>>         to replace the volume lost by the removal of the
>>>         solids and
>>>         the water recovered
>>>         by the recombination burn we are hard pressed to
>>>         explain the
>>>         observed
>>>         phenomenon.     The
>>>         electrolyte appears
>>>         stronger in mineral concentration and shows no
>>>         sign of
>>>
>>>         depletion.                                
>>>
>>>            After conferring
>>>         with
>>>         Joe Tyls we arrived at
>>>         the conclusion that the 77 colloidal minerals
>>>         contained in the
>>>         electrolyte
>>>         provide the atomic templates needed for the
>>>         monatomic hydrogen
>>>         (father of all
>>>         the elements) to replicate selected elements in
>>>         this exotic
>>>         mixture.  If you
>>>         subscribe to the theories of the late
>>>         Walter Russell and his explanation of the octave
>>>         based
>>>         periodic table with
>>>         monatonic hydrogen being what he describes as
>>>         hydrons
>>>         (precursor to hydrogen)
>>>         then it is possible for the replication of
>>>         elements directly
>>>         from energy input
>>>         alone.  This is how all
>>>         matter was
>>>         created in the beginning as described by
>>>         Schappeller in “The
>>>         Physics of the
>>>         Primary State of Matter”.    I
>>>         will keep
>>>         all informed as to our progress and findings in
>>>         this very
>>>         intriguing venture.
>>>          
>>>         Norman
>>>         Wootan
>>>         P.O.
>>>         Box 141049
>>>         Dallas,
>>>         TX 75214
>>>         (214)
>>>         360-0865
>>>          
>>>          
>>>         CC:  Gene Mallove,
>>>         Infinite
>>>         Energy
>>>         CC:  Dr. John
>>>         Bockris, Texas
>>>         A/M
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         On 10/28/2018 1:01 AM,
>>>         Jakob Wall
>>>         wall_jakob@... <mailto:wall_jakob@...>
>>>         [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>          
>>>
>>>
>>>         Thanks Norman,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         BTW, what is the most effective water split
>>>         device that
>>>         you ever put you hands on?
>>>
>>>         As HHO researcher for dekades you should be
>>>         able to point
>>>         us directly to the most effective known!
>>>
>>>         Please be specific about reconstruction of the
>>>         same, since
>>>         we are in public domain it will become public
>>>         knowledge
>>>         and public good. I assume you intend nothing
>>>         else,rigth ?
>>>
>>>
>>>         --------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>         On Sat, 10/27/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@... <mailto:nwootan@...>
>>>         [EVGRAY]
>>>         <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>         wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's
>>>         Magnetic
>>>         Battery [3 Attachments]
>>>
>>>         To: "Bert Pool" <BertPool512@...> <mailto:BertPool512@...>,
>>>         "Bob
>>>         Paddock" <bob.paddock@...> <mailto:bob.paddock@...>,
>>>         "joel mcclain"
>>>         <joel_76670@...> <mailto:joel_76670@...>,
>>>         "Jon Gentry"
>>>         <jongen422@...> <mailto:jongen422@...>,
>>>         "Lane Wootan"
>>>         <lanewootan@...> <mailto:lanewootan@...>,
>>>         "Mbking42"
>>>         <mbking42@...> <mailto:mbking42@...>,
>>>         "Toby Grotz"
>>>         <wireless2@...> <mailto:wireless2@...>,
>>>         "Phil Rembold"
>>>         <prembold@...> <mailto:prembold@...>,
>>>         "Angel Alvarez"
>>>         <angel@...> <mailto:angel@...>,
>>>         "Fredric Fletcher"
>>>         <ffletcher@...> <mailto:ffletcher@...>,
>>>         [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>
>>>         To understand the unwinding of a thread
>>>         leading
>>>
>>>         to Magnetic
>>>
>>>         Generating Hydrogen and this Magnetic Battery,
>>>         we have
>>>
>>>         to dust off
>>>
>>>         our  9th grade Chemistry Books!
>>>
>>>         http://www.rexresearch.com/ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm     
>>>
>>>         I guess Dr.
>>>
>>>         Ehrenhaft was the first to propose a Magnetic
>>>         Current.
>>>
>>>         (Jon
>>>
>>>         Gentry, Your liquid metal vortex helix).
>>>
>>>         https://revolution-green.com/can-electrolysis-powered-magnets/      
>>>
>>>         Ah! Ha!  more on Magnetic Currents!!!
>>>
>>>         https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446.html
>>>
>>>         https://www.labmanager.com/white-papers-and-application-notes/2010/05/resistivity-conductivity-measurement-of-purified-water#.W9So9uJRc2w
>>>
>>>         https://www.askiitians.com/forums/Physical-Chemistry/19/19074/electro-che
>>>
>>>         https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpotential
>>>
>>>         https://www.quora.com/Why-is-oxygen-molecule-paramagnetic-although-it-does-not-contain-any-unpaired-electron
>>>
>>>         https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251580541_The_effect_of_magnetic_force_on_hydrogen_production_efficiency_in_water_electrolysis
>>>
>>>         http://www.physicscentral.com/experiment/physicsathome/electricwhirlpool.cfm
>>>
>>>         http://www.linux-host.org/energy/bmagpump.htm
>>>
>>>         Now Jon Gentry you have your liquid metal pump
>>>         so
>>>
>>>         that you can
>>>
>>>         make the helix tube Vortex! 
>>>         Ferricpetacarbonyl or
>>>
>>>         micro fine neo
>>>
>>>         powder to provide the liquid metal for pump
>>>
>>>         circuit.
>>>
>>>         Lots of reading here!     Please think
>>>         about the
>>>
>>>         ramifications of
>>>
>>>         a Magnetic Current as proposed by Dr.
>>>         Ehrenhaft!
>>>
>>>
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