Body
Cmon Hector,
Bad taste!
The man had a more serious lab than anyone else here and his work speaks
for itself. Maybe he has gained the fortune he desired through R&D and
now shitting in tall cotton or gone fishing reaping the rewards of
retirement. Notwithstanding is still kind enough to help point us in the
right directions around here.
"*Funny–I can look back on a life of achievement, on challenges met,
competitors bested, obstacles overcome. I’ve accomplished more than most
men, and without the use of my legs. What?What makes a man, Mr. Lebowski?"*
On 11/6/2018 8:04 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
>
> Dar n ! a Scientist inventor with no lab is like a breeding bull with
> no balls !
>
> Balls Cow GIF - Balls Cow WingDangDoodle GIFs
>
>
>
> ---In [email protected], <nwootan@...> wrote :
>
> Jacob! You asked me a question and I gave you my opinion! I'm totally
> retired at 80 years old and have no lab to experiment in! Your quote;
> I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. '' Slow down boy, we
> get paid for llooking for solutions, not to find them!'' That
> certainly does not apply to me for I have shared all with the folks on
> this site. I find you statement very interesting: Technics that use
> up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours with usual amount of gas looks to me
> extremely inefficient. ?????? Care to share where you saw the
> power of a permanent magnet being used up! We all here on this site
> share what ever knowledge we have on the various subjects not seeking
> any monetary gain in any way! That is my approach! I just contribute
> to the dialog when I run across something interesting and think it
> will assist you guys! Norm
>
>
> On 11/3/2018 11:32 PM, Jakob Wall wall_jakob@...
> <mailto:wall_jakob@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Thanks Norman,
>> But i actually asced for ''most efficient way'' to split water
>> known to you!
>> I realize there are a lot of different technigues to do just that.
>> And yes i realize you could give me a rather complex answer. But
>> instead i hope for a
>> rather easy and reproductive answer since i am looking forward to
>> solve my enerrgy
>> problems i just can not live with the momentary (sad and very
>> stupid energy situation)
>> I am still not giving up becouse of a couple mistakes and
>> misunderstandings.
>> If i would be a car dealer and you would ask me for a most
>> efficient car available on the market
>> i would for sure not recommend a Prius, since there are a lot of
>> cars with better fuel economie
>> even without being a hybrid and without additional cost like
>> batterys,e-motors and a bunch added ECU's
>>
>> Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours with usual
>> amount of gas looks to me extremely
>> inefficient.
>> Also very expensive HHO-Garage products with output of 1,6 ltr/min.
>> Come on, 6 rusty nails and a old car batery does this job, no
>> need to spend 1600 bucks on it.
>> I honestly expected solide advise or a honest NO way boy, i just
>> talking around.
>>
>> I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. '' Slow down
>> boy, we get paid for llooking for
>> solutions, not to find them!'' That shoked me deeply and even if
>> i get 150 years old, i will not forget it.
>> Thats true treason on mankind and deciving the people. I really
>> hope nobody on this forum only care
>> about what he/she will be doing tomorrow.
>>
>> Jakob
>>
>> --------------------------------------------
>> On Sun, 10/28/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@... <mailto:nwootan@...>
>> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery
>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>, "Bert
>> Pool" <BertPool512@...> <mailto:BertPool512@...>, "Bob Paddock"
>> <bob.paddock@...> <mailto:bob.paddock@...>, "joel mcclain"
>> <joel_76670@...> <mailto:joel_76670@...>, "Jon Gentry"
>> <jongen422@...> <mailto:jongen422@...>, "Mbking42" <mbking42@...>
>> <mailto:mbking42@...>, "Toby Grotz" <wireless2@...>
>> <mailto:wireless2@...>, "Phil Rembold" <prembold@...>
>> <mailto:prembold@...>, "Angel Alvarez" <angel@...>
>> <mailto:angel@...>, "Fredric Fletcher" <ffletcher@...>
>> <mailto:ffletcher@...>
>> Received: Sunday, October 28, 2018, 9:44 AM
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Jacob! That would be a rather complex answer
>> but here is your
>> starting point!
>> https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct-thermomagnetic-splitting-of-water-.html
>> After having been heavily involved in the COLD FUSION
>> Research
>> back in the 70s and 80s I quickly settled o0n the best
>> catalyst in
>> electrolytic cells which is pure nickel. I still have
>> the cell
>> used in the Elemental Replication experiments.
>>
>>
>> http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm
>> The hidden
>> part of this research is the use of a nickel component
>> in the
>> combustion chamber. Bosch developed 90,000V ignition
>> systems to
>> enable water injection in gas engine which high
>> lighted the
>> Graneau HV decomposition of water via HVDC
>> discharge!
>> My magnetic Battery when run as an electrolytic cell
>> to produce
>> hydrogen does produce a huge amount of hydrogen gas as
>> shown by
>> the Dr. Ehrenhaft document. I would tell you to
>> pursue the super
>> high Tesla magnetic flux and nickel electrodes in an
>> electrolytic
>> cell. The major obstacle to be overcome is the rapid
>> collection
>> of ions from solution by the 1.3 Tesla flux across a
>> .020"
>> mechanical gap which quickly takes the cell into a
>> super-conduction mode which takes out the driving DC
>> power supply.
>> You can flush the magnetic gaps with distilled water
>> and the gaps
>> will show in the meg-ohm range then go to zero ohms
>> after a short
>> period of running, the gathered ions totally short
>> cell. During
>> the brief runs there is a huge amount of hydrogen gas
>> produced
>> which I burned off as it was generated. Much can be
>> said about
>> driving the cell with high frequencies as the Myers
>> research
>> showed. Our friend up in Canada at George Wiseman,
>> Eagle Research
>> is running well ahead of the crowd on the production
>> of H-H-O.
>> Just for giggles!
>>
>>
>> 16 October
>> 1996
>> To: Hal
>> Fox, Fusion Facts
>> Elemental
>> Replication ?
>>
>> Around mid
>> September
>> I put together an
>> electrolysis cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold
>> Fusion Cell
>> with the goal of
>> exploring the possibilities of making what is
>> termed “Pristine
>> Water”. This water
>> which will be used by Homeopaths
>> will have had all memory or information
>> removed. This is accomplished by
>> recombining monatomic
>> hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated in a
>> properly
>> designed cell. This is
>> the ultimate in purity since this is
>> water with conditions at the time of original
>> creation. “Holly Water”is a term
>> coined by my dear
>> friend and fellow researcher Joe Tyls of
>> Vancouver, BC. After several weeks of
>> successful operation
>> producing water that had all the earmarks of a
>> true “pristine
>> water” a fellow
>> researcher suggested using an alternate
>> electrolyte. A solution was selected
>> that contained 77
>> colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the
>> easiest
>> assimilated into the
>> body. With the
>> electrolyte changed the
>> cell was put back into operation as before with a
>> nice
>> recombination burn and
>> production of the sought after “pristine
>> water”.
>>
>> After about an
>> hour of
>> operation the cell
>> went absolutely “nuts” with the temperature
>> rapidly climbing
>> to boiling point
>> and the current out of sight.
>> When the
>> cell was opened we found a deep red sludge deposit
>> which
>> shorted the cell
>> plates. Our first
>> thought was that the
>> electrolytic action precipitated out the colloidal
>> minerals
>> which caused the
>> deposit found. The
>> electrolyte was allowed
>> to settle out the
>> precipitate. After
>> decanting off, the clear electrolyte
>> was
>> returned to the
>> cell for another run. Again the cell operated
>> normally for
>> about an hour with a
>> normal recombination burn and recovery of the
>> water being
>> consumed by the cell
>> in the splitting action. Again
>> the cell
>> temperature and current mirrored the first
>> run.
>> Again the cell contained the same amount of
>> sludge
>> residue. This process
>> was repeated ten (10) times
>> with exactly the same results.
>> All of
>> the sludge was carefully dried and weighed on an
>> electronic
>> scale with a five
>> decimal
>> resolution.
>> The cell plates and all hardware were
>> weighed to
>> determine any loss of
>> mass that may contribute to the mass gain observed
>> in the
>> sludge. Five hundred
>> (500) ml of the original
>> electrolyte solution used in the cell was vacuum
>> distilled to
>> determine the
>> exact mass of colloidal minerals
>> contained.
>> When all factors were considered we came
>> out with a
>> mass gain of 48 gm
>> which cannot be explained by
>> conventional
>> electrolysis.
>>
>> After talking
>> to Dr.
>> Robert Bass and Hal
>> Fox I learned of a patent that has been filed on
>> the
>> transmutation of elements
>> in the cold fusion cell which is the process that
>> Dr. John
>> Bockris has been so
>> active in. Both Dr.
>> Bass and Hal Fox
>> stated that what I was observing is not the same
>> as the
>> transmutation observed
>> in the cold fusion cell since I have a overall
>> mass gain and
>> not a lateral
>> movement of elements in the periodic table toward
>> lighter
>> elements with a
>> resulting heat release. This
>> unusual
>> cell operation has caused quite a reaction in the
>> scientific
>> community. At this
>> time I have built a complete new cell
>> with every possible factor which could possibly
>> explain the
>> mass gain
>> considered and documented. The
>> ten (10)
>> consecutive runs on the new cell will be completed
>> soon and a
>> report will be
>> forthcoming. What is
>> interesting about
>> this phenomenon is that when an eleventh run was
>> made with the
>> original
>> electrolyte exactly the same amount of residue was
>> recovered
>> as in the previous
>> ten
>> runs.
>>
>>
>> Since
>> the same electrolyte is reused each time with only
>> distilled
>> water being added
>> to replace the volume lost by the removal of the
>> solids and
>> the water recovered
>> by the recombination burn we are hard pressed to
>> explain the
>> observed
>> phenomenon. The
>> electrolyte appears
>> stronger in mineral concentration and shows no
>> sign of
>>
>> depletion.
>>
>> After conferring
>> with
>> Joe Tyls we arrived at
>> the conclusion that the 77 colloidal minerals
>> contained in the
>> electrolyte
>> provide the atomic templates needed for the
>> monatomic hydrogen
>> (father of all
>> the elements) to replicate selected elements in
>> this exotic
>> mixture. If you
>> subscribe to the theories of the late
>> Walter Russell and his explanation of the octave
>> based
>> periodic table with
>> monatonic hydrogen being what he describes as
>> hydrons
>> (precursor to hydrogen)
>> then it is possible for the replication of
>> elements directly
>> from energy input
>> alone. This is how all
>> matter was
>> created in the beginning as described by
>> Schappeller in “The
>> Physics of the
>> Primary State of Matter”. I
>> will keep
>> all informed as to our progress and findings in
>> this very
>> intriguing venture.
>>
>> Norman
>> Wootan
>> P.O.
>> Box 141049
>> Dallas,
>> TX 75214
>> (214)
>> 360-0865
>>
>>
>> CC: Gene Mallove,
>> Infinite
>> Energy
>> CC: Dr. John
>> Bockris, Texas
>> A/M
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/28/2018 1:01 AM,
>> Jakob Wall
>> wall_jakob@... <mailto:wall_jakob@...>
>> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks Norman,
>>
>>
>>
>> BTW, what is the most effective water split
>> device that
>> you ever put you hands on?
>>
>> As HHO researcher for dekades you should be
>> able to point
>> us directly to the most effective known!
>>
>> Please be specific about reconstruction of the
>> same, since
>> we are in public domain it will become public
>> knowledge
>> and public good. I assume you intend nothing
>> else,rigth ?
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------
>>
>> On Sat, 10/27/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@... <mailto:nwootan@...>
>> [EVGRAY]
>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's
>> Magnetic
>> Battery [3 Attachments]
>>
>> To: "Bert Pool" <BertPool512@...> <mailto:BertPool512@...>,
>> "Bob
>> Paddock" <bob.paddock@...> <mailto:bob.paddock@...>,
>> "joel mcclain"
>> <joel_76670@...> <mailto:joel_76670@...>,
>> "Jon Gentry"
>> <jongen422@...> <mailto:jongen422@...>,
>> "Lane Wootan"
>> <lanewootan@...> <mailto:lanewootan@...>,
>> "Mbking42"
>> <mbking42@...> <mailto:mbking42@...>,
>> "Toby Grotz"
>> <wireless2@...> <mailto:wireless2@...>,
>> "Phil Rembold"
>> <prembold@...> <mailto:prembold@...>,
>> "Angel Alvarez"
>> <angel@...> <mailto:angel@...>,
>> "Fredric Fletcher"
>> <ffletcher@...> <mailto:ffletcher@...>,
>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>
>> To understand the unwinding of a thread
>> leading
>>
>> to Magnetic
>>
>> Generating Hydrogen and this Magnetic Battery,
>> we have
>>
>> to dust off
>>
>> our 9th grade Chemistry Books!
>>
>> http://www.rexresearch.com/ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm
>>
>> I guess Dr.
>>
>> Ehrenhaft was the first to propose a Magnetic
>> Current.
>>
>> (Jon
>>
>> Gentry, Your liquid metal vortex helix).
>>
>> https://revolution-green.com/can-electrolysis-powered-magnets/
>>
>> Ah! Ha! more on Magnetic Currents!!!
>>
>> https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446.html
>>
>> https://www.labmanager.com/white-papers-and-application-notes/2010/05/resistivity-conductivity-measurement-of-purified-water#.W9So9uJRc2w
>>
>> https://www.askiitians.com/forums/Physical-Chemistry/19/19074/electro-che
>>
>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpotential
>>
>> https://www.quora.com/Why-is-oxygen-molecule-paramagnetic-although-it-does-not-contain-any-unpaired-electron
>>
>> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251580541_The_effect_of_magnetic_force_on_hydrogen_production_efficiency_in_water_electrolysis
>>
>> http://www.physicscentral.com/experiment/physicsathome/electricwhirlpool.cfm
>>
>> http://www.linux-host.org/energy/bmagpump.htm
>>
>> Now Jon Gentry you have your liquid metal pump
>> so
>>
>> that you can
>>
>> make the helix tube Vortex!
>> Ferricpetacarbonyl or
>>
>> micro fine neo
>>
>> powder to provide the liquid metal for pump
>>
>> circuit.
>>
>> Lots of reading here! Please think
>> about the
>>
>> ramifications of
>>
>> a Magnetic Current as proposed by Dr.
>> Ehrenhaft!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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