Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery

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Its me and i feel ball-less with limited resources i might feel dead with no chance to experiment on anything , its just a metaphor don't take it on the bad side , Norman belongs in a lab not in a normal house aging like an old cheese ! 

by the way who is willing to donate 2 big stainless steel balls 10 feet in diameter custom made to my specifications .....?

i cant finish that experiment ( for definitely lack of 2 large balls ! ) 

(H) 

 


---In [email protected], <mkjekyll@...> wrote :

 Cmon Hector,
 Bad taste!
 
 The man had a more serious lab than anyone else here and his work speaks for itself.  Maybe he has gained the fortune he desired through R&D and now shitting in tall cotton or gone fishing reaping the rewards of retirement. Notwithstanding is still kind enough to help point us in the right directions around here.
 "Funny–I can look back on a life of achievement, on challenges met, competitors bested, obstacles overcome. I’ve accomplished more than most men, and without the use of my legs. What?What makes a man, Mr. Lebowski?"
 
 On 11/6/2018 8:04 AM, arkresearch@... mailto:arkresearch@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
 
   Dar n ! a Scientist inventor with no lab is like a breeding bull with no balls ! 
 
 
 
 
 ---In [email protected] mailto:[email protected], <nwootan@...> mailto:nwootan@... wrote :
 
 Jacob! You asked me a question and I gave you my opinion!  I'm totally retired at 80 years old and have no lab to experiment in!  Your quote; I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. '' Slow down boy, we get paid for llooking for solutions, not to find them!''   That certainly does not apply to me for I have shared all with the folks on this site.  I find you statement very interesting:  Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours with usual amount of gas looks to me extremely inefficient.   ??????        Care to share where you saw the power of a permanent magnet being used up!   We all here on this site share what ever knowledge we have on the various subjects not seeking any monetary gain in any way! That is my approach!   I just contribute to the dialog when I run across something interesting and think it will assist you guys!   Norm
 
 
 On 11/3/2018 11:32 PM, Jakob Wall wall_jakob@... mailto:wall_jakob@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
 
   Thanks Norman,
 But i actually asced for ''most efficient way'' to split water known to you!
 I realize there are a lot of different technigues to do just that.
 And yes i realize you could give me a rather complex answer. But instead i hope for a 
 rather easy and reproductive answer since i am looking forward to solve my enerrgy 
 problems i just can not live with the momentary (sad and very stupid energy situation)
 I am still not giving up becouse of a couple mistakes and misunderstandings.
 If i would be a car dealer and you would ask me for a most efficient car available on the market
 i would for sure not recommend a Prius, since there are a lot of cars with better fuel economie
 even without being a hybrid and without additional cost like batterys,e-motors and a bunch added ECU's
 
 Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours with usual amount of gas looks to me extremely 
 inefficient.
 Also very expensive HHO-Garage products with output of 1,6 ltr/min.
 Come on, 6 rusty nails and a old car batery does this job, no need to spend 1600 bucks on it.
 I honestly expected solide advise or a honest NO way boy, i just talking around.
 
 I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. '' Slow down boy, we get paid for llooking for
 solutions, not to find them!'' That shoked me deeply and even if i get 150 years old, i will not forget it.
 Thats true treason on mankind and deciving the people. I really hope nobody on this forum only care 
 about what he/she will be doing tomorrow.
 
 Jakob
 
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 On Sun, 10/28/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@... mailto:nwootan@... [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> mailto:[email protected] wrote:
 
 Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery
 To: [email protected] mailto:[email protected], "Bert Pool" <BertPool512@...> mailto:BertPool512@..., "Bob Paddock" <bob.paddock@...> mailto:bob.paddock@..., "joel mcclain" <joel_76670@...> mailto:joel_76670@..., "Jon Gentry" <jongen422@...> mailto:jongen422@..., "Mbking42" <mbking42@...> mailto:mbking42@..., "Toby Grotz" <wireless2@...> mailto:wireless2@..., "Phil Rembold" <prembold@...> mailto:prembold@..., "Angel Alvarez" <angel@...> mailto:angel@..., "Fredric Fletcher" <ffletcher@...> mailto:ffletcher@...
 Received: Sunday, October 28, 2018, 9:44 AM
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Jacob!  That would be a rather complex answer
 but here is your
 starting point!
 https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct-thermomagnetic-splitting-of-water-.html https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct-thermomagnetic-splitting-of-water-.html   
 After having been heavily involved in the COLD FUSION
 Research
 back in the 70s and 80s I quickly settled o0n the best
 catalyst in
 electrolytic cells which is pure nickel. I still have
 the cell
 used in the Elemental Replication experiments. 
 
 
 http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm    
 The hidden
 part of this research is the use of a nickel component
 in the
 combustion chamber. Bosch developed 90,000V ignition
 systems to
 enable water injection in gas engine which high
 lighted the
 Graneau HV decomposition of water via HVDC
 discharge!
 My magnetic Battery when run as an electrolytic cell
 to produce
 hydrogen does produce a huge amount of hydrogen gas as
 shown by
 the Dr. Ehrenhaft document.  I would tell you to
 pursue the super
 high Tesla magnetic flux and nickel electrodes in an
 electrolytic
 cell.  The major obstacle to be overcome is the rapid
 collection
 of ions from solution by the 1.3 Tesla flux across a
 .020"
 mechanical gap which quickly takes the cell into a
 super-conduction mode which takes out the driving DC
 power supply.
 You can flush the magnetic gaps with distilled water
 and the gaps
 will show in the meg-ohm range then go to zero ohms
 after a short
 period of running, the gathered ions totally short
 cell. During
 the brief runs there is a huge amount of hydrogen gas
 produced 
 which I burned off as it was generated.  Much can be
 said about
 driving the cell with high frequencies as the Myers
 research
 showed.  Our friend up in Canada at George Wiseman,
 Eagle Research
 is running well ahead of the crowd on the production
 of H-H-O.
 Just for giggles!
 
 
 16 October
 1996
 To: Hal
 Fox,  Fusion Facts
 Elemental
 Replication ?
  
       Around mid
 September
 I put together an
 electrolysis cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold
 Fusion Cell
 with the goal of
 exploring the possibilities of making what is
 termed “Pristine
 Water”.   This water
 which will be used by Homeopaths
 will have had all memory or information
 removed.  This is accomplished by
 recombining monatomic
 hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated in a
 properly
 designed cell.  This is
 the ultimate in purity since this is
 water with conditions at the time of original
 creation.  “Holly Water”is a term
 coined by my dear
 friend and fellow researcher Joe Tyls of
 Vancouver, BC.   After several weeks of
 successful operation
 producing water that had all the earmarks of a
 true “pristine
 water” a fellow
 researcher suggested using an alternate
 electrolyte.   A solution was selected
 that contained 77
 colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the
 easiest
 assimilated into the
 body.   With the
 electrolyte changed the
 cell was put back into operation as before with a
 nice
 recombination burn and
 production of the sought after “pristine
 water”.                                                                                                                                     
        
     After about an
 hour of
 operation the cell
 went absolutely “nuts” with the temperature
 rapidly climbing
 to boiling point
 and the current out of sight. 
 When the
 cell was opened we found a deep red sludge deposit
 which
 shorted the cell
 plates.   Our first
 thought was that the
 electrolytic action precipitated out the colloidal
 minerals
 which caused the
 deposit found.   The 
 electrolyte was allowed
 to settle out the
 precipitate.   After 
 decanting off,  the clear electrolyte
 was
 returned to the
 cell for another run. Again the cell operated
 normally for
 about an hour with a
 normal recombination burn and recovery of the
 water being
 consumed by the cell
 in the splitting action.   Again
 the cell
 temperature and current mirrored the first
 run. 
 Again the cell contained the same amount of
 sludge
 residue.   This process
 was repeated ten (10) times
 with exactly the same results.  
 All of
 the sludge was carefully dried and weighed on an
 electronic
 scale with a five
 decimal
 resolution.                     
 The cell plates and all hardware were
 weighed to
 determine any loss of
 mass that may contribute to the mass gain observed
 in the
 sludge.  Five hundred
 (500) ml of the original
 electrolyte solution used in the cell was vacuum
 distilled to
 determine the
 exact mass of colloidal minerals
 contained. 
 When all factors were considered we came
 out with a
 mass gain of  48 gm
 which cannot be explained by
 conventional
 electrolysis.                      
 
     After talking
 to Dr.
 Robert Bass and Hal
 Fox I learned of a patent that has been filed on
 the
 transmutation of elements
 in the cold fusion cell which is the process that
 Dr. John
 Bockris has been so
 active in.   Both Dr.
 Bass and Hal Fox
 stated that what I was observing is not the same
 as the
 transmutation observed
 in the cold fusion cell since I have a overall
 mass gain and
 not a lateral
 movement of elements in the periodic table toward
 lighter
 elements with a
 resulting heat release.  This
 unusual
 cell operation has caused quite a reaction in the
 scientific
 community.  At this
 time I have built a complete new cell
 with every possible factor which could possibly
 explain the
 mass gain
 considered and documented.  The
 ten (10)
 consecutive runs on the new cell will be completed
 soon and a
 report will be
 forthcoming.   What is
 interesting about
 this phenomenon is that when an eleventh run was
 made with the
 original
 electrolyte exactly the same amount of residue was
 recovered
 as in the previous
 ten
 runs.                                                                       
 
  
 Since
 the same electrolyte is reused each time with only
 distilled
 water being added
 to replace the volume lost by the removal of the
 solids and
 the water recovered
 by the recombination burn we are hard pressed to
 explain the
 observed
 phenomenon.     The
 electrolyte appears
 stronger in mineral concentration and shows no
 sign of
 
 depletion.                                
 
    After conferring
 with
 Joe Tyls we arrived at
 the conclusion that the 77 colloidal minerals
 contained in the
 electrolyte
 provide the atomic templates needed for the
 monatomic hydrogen
 (father of all
 the elements) to replicate selected elements in
 this exotic
 mixture.  If you
 subscribe to the theories of the late
 Walter Russell and his explanation of the octave
 based
 periodic table with
 monatonic hydrogen being what he describes as
 hydrons
 (precursor to hydrogen)
 then it is possible for the replication of
 elements directly
 from energy input
 alone.  This is how all
 matter was
 created in the beginning as described by
 Schappeller in “The
 Physics of the
 Primary State of Matter”.    I
 will keep
 all informed as to our progress and findings in
 this very
 intriguing venture.
  
 Norman
 Wootan
 P.O.
 Box 141049
 Dallas,
 TX 75214
 (214)
 360-0865
  
  
 CC:  Gene Mallove,
 Infinite
 Energy
 CC:  Dr. John
 Bockris, Texas
 A/M
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On 10/28/2018 1:01 AM,
 Jakob Wall
 wall_jakob@... mailto:wall_jakob@...
 [EVGRAY] wrote:
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 Thanks Norman,
 
 
 
 BTW, what is the most effective water split
 device that
 you ever put you hands on?
 
 As HHO researcher for dekades you should be
 able to point
 us directly to the most effective known!
 
 Please be specific about reconstruction of the
 same, since
 we are in public domain it will become public
 knowledge
 and public good. I assume you intend nothing
 else,rigth ?
 
 
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 On Sat, 10/27/18, Norman Wootan nwootan@... mailto:nwootan@...
 [EVGRAY]
 <[email protected]> mailto:[email protected]
 wrote:
 
 
 
 Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's
 Magnetic
 Battery [3 Attachments]
 
 To: "Bert Pool" <BertPool512@...> mailto:BertPool512@...,
 "Bob
 Paddock" <bob.paddock@...> mailto:bob.paddock@...,
 "joel mcclain"
 <joel_76670@...> mailto:joel_76670@...,
 "Jon Gentry"
 <jongen422@...> mailto:jongen422@...,
 "Lane Wootan"
 <lanewootan@...> mailto:lanewootan@...,
 "Mbking42"
 <mbking42@...> mailto:mbking42@...,
 "Toby Grotz"
 <wireless2@...> mailto:wireless2@...,
 "Phil Rembold"
 <prembold@...> mailto:prembold@...,
 "Angel Alvarez"
 <angel@...> mailto:angel@...,
 "Fredric Fletcher"
 <ffletcher@...> mailto:ffletcher@...,
 [email protected] mailto:[email protected]
 
 To understand the unwinding of a thread
 leading
 
 to Magnetic
 
 Generating Hydrogen and this Magnetic Battery,
 we have
 
 to dust off
 
 our  9th grade Chemistry Books!
 
 http://www.rexresearch.com/ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm http://www.rexresearch.com/ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm     
 
 I guess Dr.
 
 Ehrenhaft was the first to propose a Magnetic
 Current.
 
 (Jon
 
 Gentry, Your liquid metal vortex helix).
 
 https://revolution-green.com/can-electrolysis-powered-magnets/ https://revolution-green.com/can-electrolysis-powered-magnets/      
 
 Ah! Ha!  more on Magnetic Currents!!!
 
 https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446.html https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446.html
 
 https://www.labmanager.com/white-papers-and-application-notes/2010/05/resistivity-conductivity-measurement-of-purified-water#.W9So9uJRc2w https://www.labmanager.com/white-papers-and-application-notes/2010/05/resistivity-conductivity-measurement-of-purified-water#.W9So9uJRc2w
 
 https://www.askiitians.com/forums/Physical-Chemistry/19/19074/electro-che https://www.askiitians.com/forums/Physical-Chemistry/19/19074/electro-che
 
 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpotential https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpotential
 
 https://www.quora.com/Why-is-oxygen-molecule-paramagnetic-although-it-does-not-contain-any-unpaired-electron https://www.quora.com/Why-is-oxygen-molecule-paramagnetic-although-it-does-not-contain-any-unpaired-electron
 
 https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251580541_The_effect_of_magnetic_force_on_hydrogen_production_efficiency_in_water_electrolysis https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251580541_The_effect_of_magnetic_force_on_hydrogen_production_efficiency_in_water_electrolysis
 
 http://www.physicscentral.com/experiment/physicsathome/electricwhirlpool.cfm http://www.physicscentral.com/experiment/physicsathome/electricwhirlpool.cfm
 
 http://www.linux-host.org/energy/bmagpump.htm http://www.linux-host.org/energy/bmagpump.htm
 
 Now Jon Gentry you have your liquid metal pump
 so
 
 that you can
 
 make the helix tube Vortex! 
 Ferricpetacarbonyl or
 
 micro fine neo
 
 powder to provide the liquid metal for pump
 
 circuit.
 
 Lots of reading here!     Please think
 about the
 
 ramifications of
 
 a Magnetic Current as proposed by Dr.
 Ehrenhaft!
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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