Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery

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Thanks Norman,
But i actually asced for     ''most efficient way''   to split water known to you!
I realize there are a lot of different technigues to do just that.
And yes i realize you could give me a rather complex answer. But instead i hope for a 
rather easy and reproductive answer since  i am looking forward to solve my enerrgy 
problems i just can not live with the momentary (sad and very stupid energy situation)
I am still not giving up becouse of a couple mistakes and misunderstandings.
If i would be a car dealer and you would ask me for a most efficient car available on the market
i would for sure not recommend a Prius, since there are a lot of cars with better fuel economie
even without being a hybrid and without additional cost like batterys,e-motors and a bunch added ECU's

Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours with usual amount of gas looks to me extremely 
inefficient.
Also very expensive HHO-Garage products with output of 1,6 ltr/min.
Come on, 6 rusty nails and a old car batery does this job, no need to spend 1600 bucks on it.
I honestly expected solide advise or a honest  NO way boy, i just talking around.

I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. '' Slow down boy, we get paid for llooking for
solutions, not to find them!'' That shoked me deeply and even if  i get 150 years old,  i will not forget it.
Thats true treason on mankind and deciving the people. I really hope nobody on this forum only care 
about what he/she will be doing tomorrow.

Jakob



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On Sun, 10/28/18, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:

 Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery
 To: [email protected], "Bert Pool" <[email protected]>, "Bob Paddock" <[email protected]>, "joel mcclain" <[email protected]>, "Jon Gentry" <[email protected]>, "Mbking42" <[email protected]>, "Toby Grotz" <[email protected]>, "Phil Rembold" <[email protected]>, "Angel Alvarez" <[email protected]>, "Fredric Fletcher" <[email protected]>
 Received: Sunday, October 28, 2018, 9:44 AM
 
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
     
       
       
       
   
   
     Jacob!  That would be a rather complex answer
 but here is your
       starting point!
     https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct-thermomagnetic-splitting-of-water-.html   
       After having been heavily involved in the COLD FUSION
 Research
       back in the 70s and 80s I quickly settled o0n the best
 catalyst in
       electrolytic cells which is pure nickel. I still have
 the cell
       used in the Elemental Replication experiments. 
 
     
     http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm    
 The hidden
       part of this research is the use of a nickel component
 in the
       combustion chamber. Bosch developed 90,000V ignition
 systems to
       enable water injection in gas engine which high
 lighted the
       Graneau HV decomposition of water via HVDC
 discharge!
     My magnetic Battery when run as an electrolytic cell
 to produce
       hydrogen does produce a huge amount of hydrogen gas as
 shown by
       the Dr. Ehrenhaft document.  I would tell you to
 pursue the super
       high Tesla magnetic flux and nickel electrodes in an
 electrolytic
       cell.  The major obstacle to be overcome is the rapid
 collection
       of ions from solution by the 1.3 Tesla flux across a
 .020"
       mechanical gap which quickly takes the cell into a
       super-conduction mode which takes out the driving DC
 power supply.
       You can flush the magnetic gaps with distilled water
 and the gaps
       will show in the meg-ohm range then go to zero ohms
 after a short
       period of running, the gathered ions totally short
 cell. During
       the brief runs there is a huge amount of hydrogen gas
 produced 
       which I burned off as it was generated.  Much can be
 said about
       driving the cell with high frequencies as the Myers
 research
       showed.  Our friend up in Canada at George Wiseman,
 Eagle Research
       is running well ahead of the crowd on the production
 of H-H-O.
     Just for giggles!
     
     
       16 October
           1996
       To: Hal
             Fox,  Fusion Facts
       Elemental
             Replication ?
        
             Around mid
 September
           I put together an
           electrolysis cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold
 Fusion Cell
           with the goal of
           exploring the possibilities of making what is
 termed “Pristine
           Water”.   This water
           which will be used by Homeopaths
           will have had all memory or information
 removed.  This is accomplished by
           recombining monatomic
           hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated in a
 properly
           designed cell.  This is
           the ultimate in purity since this is
           water with conditions at the time of original
 creation.  “Holly Water”is a term
           coined by my dear
           friend and fellow researcher Joe Tyls of
 Vancouver, BC.   After several weeks of
           successful operation
           producing water that had all the earmarks of a
 true “pristine
           water” a fellow
           researcher suggested using an alternate
 electrolyte.   A solution was selected
           that contained 77
           colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the
 easiest
           assimilated into the
           body.   With the
           electrolyte changed the
           cell was put back into operation as before with a
 nice
           recombination burn and
           production of the sought after “pristine
 water”.                                                                                                                                     
                  
           After about an
 hour of
           operation the cell
           went absolutely “nuts” with the temperature
 rapidly climbing
           to boiling point
           and the current out of sight. 
           When the
           cell was opened we found a deep red sludge deposit
 which
           shorted the cell
           plates.   Our first
           thought was that the
           electrolytic action precipitated out the colloidal
 minerals
           which caused the
           deposit found.   The 
 electrolyte was allowed
           to settle out the
           precipitate.   After 
 decanting off,  the clear electrolyte
 was
           returned to the
           cell for another run. Again the cell operated
 normally for
           about an hour with a
           normal recombination burn and recovery of the
 water being
           consumed by the cell
           in the splitting action.   Again
           the cell
           temperature and current mirrored the first
 run. 
           Again the cell contained the same amount of
 sludge
           residue.   This process
           was repeated ten (10) times
           with exactly the same results.  
           All of
           the sludge was carefully dried and weighed on an
 electronic
           scale with a five
           decimal
 resolution.                     
           The cell plates and all hardware were
 weighed to
           determine any loss of
           mass that may contribute to the mass gain observed
 in the
           sludge.  Five hundred
           (500) ml of the original
           electrolyte solution used in the cell was vacuum
 distilled to
           determine the
           exact mass of colloidal minerals
 contained. 
           When all factors were considered we came
 out with a
           mass gain of  48 gm
           which cannot be explained by
           conventional
 electrolysis.                      
           
           After talking
 to Dr.
           Robert Bass and Hal
           Fox I learned of a patent that has been filed on
 the
           transmutation of elements
           in the cold fusion cell which is the process that
 Dr. John
           Bockris has been so
           active in.   Both Dr.
           Bass and Hal Fox
           stated that what I was observing is not the same
 as the
           transmutation observed
           in the cold fusion cell since I have a overall
 mass gain and
           not a lateral
           movement of elements in the periodic table toward
 lighter
           elements with a
           resulting heat release.  This
           unusual
           cell operation has caused quite a reaction in the
 scientific
           community.  At this
           time I have built a complete new cell
           with every possible factor which could possibly
 explain the
           mass gain
           considered and documented.  The
           ten (10)
           consecutive runs on the new cell will be completed
 soon and a
           report will be
           forthcoming.   What is
           interesting about
           this phenomenon is that when an eleventh run was
 made with the
           original
           electrolyte exactly the same amount of residue was
 recovered
           as in the previous
           ten
 runs.                                                                       
           
        
       Since
           the same electrolyte is reused each time with only
 distilled
           water being added
           to replace the volume lost by the removal of the
 solids and
           the water recovered
           by the recombination burn we are hard pressed to
 explain the
           observed
           phenomenon.     The
           electrolyte appears
           stronger in mineral concentration and shows no
 sign of
          
 depletion.                                
           
          After conferring
 with
           Joe Tyls we arrived at
           the conclusion that the 77 colloidal minerals
 contained in the
           electrolyte
           provide the atomic templates needed for the
 monatomic hydrogen
           (father of all
           the elements) to replicate selected elements in
 this exotic
           mixture.  If you
           subscribe to the theories of the late
           Walter Russell and his explanation of the octave
 based
           periodic table with
           monatonic hydrogen being what he describes as
 hydrons
           (precursor to hydrogen)
           then it is possible for the replication of
 elements directly
           from energy input
           alone.  This is how all
           matter was
           created in the beginning as described by
 Schappeller in “The
           Physics of the
           Primary State of Matter”.    I
           will keep
           all informed as to our progress and findings in
 this very
           intriguing venture.
        
       Norman
           Wootan
       P.O.
           Box 141049
       Dallas,
           TX 75214
       (214)
           360-0865
        
        
       CC:  Gene Mallove,
 Infinite
           Energy
       CC:  Dr. John
 Bockris, Texas
           A/M
     
     
 
     
     
 
     On 10/28/2018 1:01 AM,
 Jakob Wall
       [email protected]
 [EVGRAY] wrote:
 
     
     
       
        
       
           
             Thanks Norman,
 
               
 
               BTW, what is the most effective water split
 device that
               you ever put you hands on?
 
               As HHO researcher for dekades you should be
 able to point
               us directly to the most effective known!
 
               Please be specific about reconstruction of the
 same, since
               we are in public domain it will become public
 knowledge
               and public good. I assume you intend nothing
 else,rigth ?
 
              
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               On Sat, 10/27/18, Norman Wootan [email protected]
 [EVGRAY]
               <[email protected]>
 wrote:
 
               
 
               Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's
 Magnetic
               Battery [3 Attachments]
 
               To: "Bert Pool" <[email protected]>,
 "Bob
               Paddock" <[email protected]>,
 "joel mcclain"
               <[email protected]>,
 "Jon Gentry"
               <[email protected]>,
 "Lane Wootan"
               <[email protected]>,
 "Mbking42"
               <[email protected]>,
 "Toby Grotz"
               <[email protected]>,
 "Phil Rembold"
               <[email protected]>,
 "Angel Alvarez"
               <[email protected]>,
 "Fredric Fletcher"
               <[email protected]>,
 [email protected]
 
               To understand the unwinding of a thread
 leading
 
               to Magnetic
 
               Generating Hydrogen and this Magnetic Battery,
 we have
 
               to dust off
 
               our  9th grade Chemistry Books!
 
               http://www.rexresearch.com/ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm     
 
               I guess Dr.
 
               Ehrenhaft was the first to propose a Magnetic
 Current.
 
               (Jon
 
               Gentry, Your liquid metal vortex helix).
 
 https://revolution-green.com/can-electrolysis-powered-magnets/      
 
               Ah! Ha!  more on Magnetic Currents!!!
 
 https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446.html
 
 https://www.labmanager.com/white-papers-and-application-notes/2010/05/resistivity-conductivity-measurement-of-purified-water#.W9So9uJRc2w
 
 https://www.askiitians.com/forums/Physical-Chemistry/19/19074/electro-che
 
               https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpotential
 
 https://www.quora.com/Why-is-oxygen-molecule-paramagnetic-although-it-does-not-contain-any-unpaired-electron
 
 https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251580541_The_effect_of_magnetic_force_on_hydrogen_production_efficiency_in_water_electrolysis
 
 http://www.physicscentral.com/experiment/physicsathome/electricwhirlpool.cfm
 
               http://www.linux-host.org/energy/bmagpump.htm
 
               Now Jon Gentry you have your liquid metal pump
 so
 
               that you can
 
               make the helix tube Vortex! 
 Ferricpetacarbonyl or
 
               micro fine neo
 
               powder to provide the liquid metal for pump
 
               circuit.
 
               Lots of reading here!     Please think
 about the
 
               ramifications of
 
               a Magnetic Current as proposed by Dr.
 Ehrenhaft!
 
             
           
           
       
       
       
       
     
     
 
   
 
 
 
     
      
 
     
     
 
 
 
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