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Jacob! You asked me a question and I gave you my opinion! I'm totally
retired at 80 years old and have no lab to experiment in! Your quote; I
heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. '' Slow down boy, we get
paid for llooking for solutions, not to find them!'' That certainly
does not apply to me for I have shared all with the folks on this site.
I find you statement very interesting: Technics that use up 10 % of a
magnet in 24 hours with usual amount of gas looks to me extremely
inefficient. ?????? Care to share where you saw the power of a
permanent magnet being used up! We all here on this site share what
ever knowledge we have on the various subjects not seeking any monetary
gain in any way! That is my approach! I just contribute to the dialog
when I run across something interesting and think it will assist you
guys! Norm
On 11/3/2018 11:32 PM, Jakob Wall [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Thanks Norman,
> But i actually asced for ''most efficient way'' to split water known
> to you!
> I realize there are a lot of different technigues to do just that.
> And yes i realize you could give me a rather complex answer. But
> instead i hope for a
> rather easy and reproductive answer since i am looking forward to
> solve my enerrgy
> problems i just can not live with the momentary (sad and very stupid
> energy situation)
> I am still not giving up becouse of a couple mistakes and
> misunderstandings.
> If i would be a car dealer and you would ask me for a most efficient
> car available on the market
> i would for sure not recommend a Prius, since there are a lot of cars
> with better fuel economie
> even without being a hybrid and without additional cost like
> batterys,e-motors and a bunch added ECU's
>
> Technics that use up 10 % of a magnet in 24 hours with usual amount of
> gas looks to me extremely
> inefficient.
> Also very expensive HHO-Garage products with output of 1,6 ltr/min.
> Come on, 6 rusty nails and a old car batery does this job, no need to
> spend 1600 bucks on it.
> I honestly expected solide advise or a honest NO way boy, i just
> talking around.
>
> I heard once a phrase from a researcher who said. '' Slow down boy, we
> get paid for llooking for
> solutions, not to find them!'' That shoked me deeply and even if i get
> 150 years old, i will not forget it.
> Thats true treason on mankind and deciving the people. I really hope
> nobody on this forum only care
> about what he/she will be doing tomorrow.
>
> Jakob
>
> --------------------------------------------
> On Sun, 10/28/18, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's Magnetic Battery
> To: [email protected], "Bert Pool" <[email protected]>, "Bob
> Paddock" <[email protected]>, "joel mcclain"
> <[email protected]>, "Jon Gentry" <[email protected]>,
> "Mbking42" <[email protected]>, "Toby Grotz"
> <[email protected]>, "Phil Rembold" <[email protected]>,
> "Angel Alvarez" <[email protected]>, "Fredric Fletcher"
> <[email protected]>
> Received: Sunday, October 28, 2018, 9:44 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Jacob! That would be a rather complex answer
> but here is your
> starting point!
> https://kundoc.com/pdf-direct-thermomagnetic-splitting-of-water-.html
> After having been heavily involved in the COLD FUSION
> Research
> back in the 70s and 80s I quickly settled o0n the best
> catalyst in
> electrolytic cells which is pure nickel. I still have
> the cell
> used in the Elemental Replication experiments.
>
>
> http://www.rexresearch.com/gunnrman/gunnrman.htm
> The hidden
> part of this research is the use of a nickel component
> in the
> combustion chamber. Bosch developed 90,000V ignition
> systems to
> enable water injection in gas engine which high
> lighted the
> Graneau HV decomposition of water via HVDC
> discharge!
> My magnetic Battery when run as an electrolytic cell
> to produce
> hydrogen does produce a huge amount of hydrogen gas as
> shown by
> the Dr. Ehrenhaft document. I would tell you to
> pursue the super
> high Tesla magnetic flux and nickel electrodes in an
> electrolytic
> cell. The major obstacle to be overcome is the rapid
> collection
> of ions from solution by the 1.3 Tesla flux across a
> .020"
> mechanical gap which quickly takes the cell into a
> super-conduction mode which takes out the driving DC
> power supply.
> You can flush the magnetic gaps with distilled water
> and the gaps
> will show in the meg-ohm range then go to zero ohms
> after a short
> period of running, the gathered ions totally short
> cell. During
> the brief runs there is a huge amount of hydrogen gas
> produced
> which I burned off as it was generated. Much can be
> said about
> driving the cell with high frequencies as the Myers
> research
> showed. Our friend up in Canada at George Wiseman,
> Eagle Research
> is running well ahead of the crowd on the production
> of H-H-O.
> Just for giggles!
>
>
> 16 October
> 1996
> To: Hal
> Fox, Fusion Facts
> Elemental
> Replication ?
>
> Around mid
> September
> I put together an
> electrolysis cell similar to the Miles Nickel Cold
> Fusion Cell
> with the goal of
> exploring the possibilities of making what is
> termed “Pristine
> Water”. This water
> which will be used by Homeopaths
> will have had all memory or information
> removed. This is accomplished by
> recombining monatomic
> hydrogen and monatomic oxygen as generated in a
> properly
> designed cell. This is
> the ultimate in purity since this is
> water with conditions at the time of original
> creation. “Holly Water”is a term
> coined by my dear
> friend and fellow researcher Joe Tyls of
> Vancouver, BC. After several weeks of
> successful operation
> producing water that had all the earmarks of a
> true “pristine
> water” a fellow
> researcher suggested using an alternate
> electrolyte. A solution was selected
> that contained 77
> colloidal minerals as found in plants that are the
> easiest
> assimilated into the
> body. With the
> electrolyte changed the
> cell was put back into operation as before with a
> nice
> recombination burn and
> production of the sought after “pristine
> water”.
>
> After about an
> hour of
> operation the cell
> went absolutely “nuts” with the temperature
> rapidly climbing
> to boiling point
> and the current out of sight.
> When the
> cell was opened we found a deep red sludge deposit
> which
> shorted the cell
> plates. Our first
> thought was that the
> electrolytic action precipitated out the colloidal
> minerals
> which caused the
> deposit found. The
> electrolyte was allowed
> to settle out the
> precipitate. After
> decanting off, the clear electrolyte
> was
> returned to the
> cell for another run. Again the cell operated
> normally for
> about an hour with a
> normal recombination burn and recovery of the
> water being
> consumed by the cell
> in the splitting action. Again
> the cell
> temperature and current mirrored the first
> run.
> Again the cell contained the same amount of
> sludge
> residue. This process
> was repeated ten (10) times
> with exactly the same results.
> All of
> the sludge was carefully dried and weighed on an
> electronic
> scale with a five
> decimal
> resolution.
> The cell plates and all hardware were
> weighed to
> determine any loss of
> mass that may contribute to the mass gain observed
> in the
> sludge. Five hundred
> (500) ml of the original
> electrolyte solution used in the cell was vacuum
> distilled to
> determine the
> exact mass of colloidal minerals
> contained.
> When all factors were considered we came
> out with a
> mass gain of 48 gm
> which cannot be explained by
> conventional
> electrolysis.
>
> After talking
> to Dr.
> Robert Bass and Hal
> Fox I learned of a patent that has been filed on
> the
> transmutation of elements
> in the cold fusion cell which is the process that
> Dr. John
> Bockris has been so
> active in. Both Dr.
> Bass and Hal Fox
> stated that what I was observing is not the same
> as the
> transmutation observed
> in the cold fusion cell since I have a overall
> mass gain and
> not a lateral
> movement of elements in the periodic table toward
> lighter
> elements with a
> resulting heat release. This
> unusual
> cell operation has caused quite a reaction in the
> scientific
> community. At this
> time I have built a complete new cell
> with every possible factor which could possibly
> explain the
> mass gain
> considered and documented. The
> ten (10)
> consecutive runs on the new cell will be completed
> soon and a
> report will be
> forthcoming. What is
> interesting about
> this phenomenon is that when an eleventh run was
> made with the
> original
> electrolyte exactly the same amount of residue was
> recovered
> as in the previous
> ten
> runs.
>
>
> Since
> the same electrolyte is reused each time with only
> distilled
> water being added
> to replace the volume lost by the removal of the
> solids and
> the water recovered
> by the recombination burn we are hard pressed to
> explain the
> observed
> phenomenon. The
> electrolyte appears
> stronger in mineral concentration and shows no
> sign of
>
> depletion.
>
> After conferring
> with
> Joe Tyls we arrived at
> the conclusion that the 77 colloidal minerals
> contained in the
> electrolyte
> provide the atomic templates needed for the
> monatomic hydrogen
> (father of all
> the elements) to replicate selected elements in
> this exotic
> mixture. If you
> subscribe to the theories of the late
> Walter Russell and his explanation of the octave
> based
> periodic table with
> monatonic hydrogen being what he describes as
> hydrons
> (precursor to hydrogen)
> then it is possible for the replication of
> elements directly
> from energy input
> alone. This is how all
> matter was
> created in the beginning as described by
> Schappeller in “The
> Physics of the
> Primary State of Matter”. I
> will keep
> all informed as to our progress and findings in
> this very
> intriguing venture.
>
> Norman
> Wootan
> P.O.
> Box 141049
> Dallas,
> TX 75214
> (214)
> 360-0865
>
>
> CC: Gene Mallove,
> Infinite
> Energy
> CC: Dr. John
> Bockris, Texas
> A/M
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 10/28/2018 1:01 AM,
> Jakob Wall
> [email protected]
> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks Norman,
>
>
>
> BTW, what is the most effective water split
> device that
> you ever put you hands on?
>
> As HHO researcher for dekades you should be
> able to point
> us directly to the most effective known!
>
> Please be specific about reconstruction of the
> same, since
> we are in public domain it will become public
> knowledge
> and public good. I assume you intend nothing
> else,rigth ?
>
>
> --------------------------------------------
>
> On Sat, 10/27/18, Norman Wootan [email protected]
> [EVGRAY]
> <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: [EVGRAY] Norm's
> Magnetic
> Battery [3 Attachments]
>
> To: "Bert Pool" <[email protected]>,
> "Bob
> Paddock" <[email protected]>,
> "joel mcclain"
> <[email protected]>,
> "Jon Gentry"
> <[email protected]>,
> "Lane Wootan"
> <[email protected]>,
> "Mbking42"
> <[email protected]>,
> "Toby Grotz"
> <[email protected]>,
> "Phil Rembold"
> <[email protected]>,
> "Angel Alvarez"
> <[email protected]>,
> "Fredric Fletcher"
> <[email protected]>,
> [email protected]
>
> To understand the unwinding of a thread
> leading
>
> to Magnetic
>
> Generating Hydrogen and this Magnetic Battery,
> we have
>
> to dust off
>
> our 9th grade Chemistry Books!
>
> http://www.rexresearch.com/ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm
>
> I guess Dr.
>
> Ehrenhaft was the first to propose a Magnetic
> Current.
>
> (Jon
>
> Gentry, Your liquid metal vortex helix).
>
> https://revolution-green.com/can-electrolysis-powered-magnets/
>
> Ah! Ha! more on Magnetic Currents!!!
>
> https://sciencing.com/magnetic-properties-hydrogen-7648446.html
>
> https://www.labmanager.com/white-papers-and-application-notes/2010/05/resistivity-conductivity-measurement-of-purified-water#.W9So9uJRc2w
>
> https://www.askiitians.com/forums/Physical-Chemistry/19/19074/electro-che
>
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overpotential
>
> https://www.quora.com/Why-is-oxygen-molecule-paramagnetic-although-it-does-not-contain-any-unpaired-electron
>
> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251580541_The_effect_of_magnetic_force_on_hydrogen_production_efficiency_in_water_electrolysis
>
> http://www.physicscentral.com/experiment/physicsathome/electricwhirlpool.cfm
>
> http://www.linux-host.org/energy/bmagpump.htm
>
> Now Jon Gentry you have your liquid metal pump
> so
>
> that you can
>
> make the helix tube Vortex!
> Ferricpetacarbonyl or
>
> micro fine neo
>
> powder to provide the liquid metal for pump
>
> circuit.
>
> Lots of reading here! Please think
> about the
>
> ramifications of
>
> a Magnetic Current as proposed by Dr.
> Ehrenhaft!
>
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