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Zenneck or Evenescent wave's very interesting!


On 10/23/2018 6:09 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
> TEXZONTECHNOLOGIES.COM
>
> 1.8MHZ GROUND TRANMISSION
>
>
>

They used small balls !

They needed bigger balls to do it!

Norm,

How many different setups did you use in your formal investigation of
the neutral spike,  I know about the locked rotor motor but were there
others?

There seems to be some crossover with Don Smiths claims of aluminum and
copper used as opposing capacitor plates and the work of the builder of
the Swiss Testatika machine.
What if any interesting observations have you made in re to the
copper/aluminum function?


On 10/24/2018 12:13 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> Mick! I was the first on this site to bring up the Evenescent wave &
> critical angle for it was in my research on a zero loss solar heat
> collector.     This tied in directly to MBKIng work on the plasmoid
> experiments.
>
> https://web.stanford.edu/~ajlucas/Evanescent%20Waves.pdf
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evanescent_field
>
> On 10/23/2018 7:37 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
> >  Zenneck or Evenescent wave
>
>

Mick! I was the first on this site to bring up the Evenescent wave & 
critical angle for it was in my research on a zero loss solar heat 
collector.     This tied in directly to MBKIng work on the plasmoid 
experiments.

https://web.stanford.edu/~ajlucas/Evanescent%20Waves.pdf 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evanescent_field



On 10/23/2018 7:37 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  Zenneck or Evenescent wave

https://ocw.mit.edu/courses/electrical-engineering-and-computer-science/6-013-electromagnetics-and-applications-spring-2009/readings/MIT6_013S09_chap09.pdf 
http://milesmathis.com/evane.pdf

https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?fr=yhs-pty-pty_email&hsimp=yhs-pty_email&hspart=pty&p=evanescent+wave+animation#id=1&vid=f5f2cc540ad0f60733fcae8287385feb&action=click


On 10/24/2018 2:13 PM, Norman Wootan wrote:
> Mick! I was the first on this site to bring up the Evenescent wave & 
> critical angle for it was in my research on a zero loss solar heat 
> collector.     This tied in directly to MBKIng work on the plasmoid 
> experiments.
>
> https://web.stanford.edu/~ajlucas/Evanescent%20Waves.pdf 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evanescent_field
>
>
>
> On 10/23/2018 7:37 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>  Zenneck or Evenescent wave
>

heat is just another radio frequency and it can be resonated & captured within phased micromilimetric array and rectificated into DC,,,with 100% efficiency .read my ancient postings on the subject ...


(H)

Just my opinion but that looper might be a version of the pulse led out
research .a Chinese guy mad a wheel and found that if you pulsed once you
get three back .the heavy fly wheel would absorb the  kinetic energy from
the pluse and run the DC generator .the board would control the pulse
timing .a1000 watt pulse would return 3000 watts in kinetic energy .spread
that energy around the pancake motor coils to reduce general over loading
of a single .point .but the Chinese version doesn't use iron cores .this is
a lot like bedini's first self runner but he adjusted it for one battery
.and ran for 15 years .what if he adjusted it for ten ?
On Oct 24, 2018 3:35 PM, "Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <
[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> Norm,
>
> How many different setups did you use in your formal investigation of the
> neutral spike,  I know about the locked rotor motor but were there others?
>
> There seems to be some crossover with Don Smiths claims of aluminum and
> copper used as opposing capacitor plates and the work of the builder of the
> Swiss Testatika machine.
> What if any interesting observations have you made in re to the
> copper/aluminum function?
>
> On 10/24/2018 12:13 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
>
>
> Mick! I was the first on this site to bring up the Evenescent wave &
> critical angle for it was in my research on a zero loss solar heat
> collector.     This tied in directly to MBKIng work on the plasmoid
> experiments.
>
> https://web.stanford.edu/~ajlucas/Evanescent%20Waves.pdf
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evanescent_field
>
> On 10/23/2018 7:37 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
> >  Zenneck or Evenescent wave
>
>
> 
>

James!   During my many years of hands on Electrical Contracting and 
Researching electrical phenomenon, my first real brush with the Neutral 
Spike was while designing small electric motors in 1981. This was a tall 
stack shaded pole motor that was designed to be reversible by switching 
the position (electrically) of the capacitor in series with the start 
windings via double pole/ double throw reversing switch.   This new 
prototype motor was MFG in Chine and test samples were shipped to me for 
QC testing. Destructive testing included the reversal of the motor while 
running full speed forward via switching the reversal switch! When 
switched the double throw switch literally exploded with a loud WOOOMP! 
and a bright green flash. (vaporized copper). I had a double EE 
Professor from UT Arlington come over and observe the phenomenon. since 
the whole 1/6th HP motor was being run off 18ga. zip cord with earth 
bond ground wire to motor frame, it was quit bizarre to see a 30 amp 
rated switch just explode. His calculations could not explain where the 
burst of energy came from. After welding the contacts of several heavy 
duty reversing contactors and examination of the original motor 
schematic with the wiring as received from China ,I found that the 
little lady in tennis shoes (assembly line Chinese lady) had placed the 
reversing circuit and switch on the neutral side of the line input. In 
effect (when in transit) the entire motor electric circuitry was in an 
isolated state (floating neutral) condition which is a great big NO, NO, 
This set up the perfect scenario for the neutral spike from earth ground 
to occur.  I have written all this up several times before for this 
EVGRAY site. Most people do not understand how shaded pole motors work 
much less how you reverse their rotation. You have to reverse the 
rotating magnet field by phase angle 90 degree leading or 90 degree 
lagging (start windings) relative to the main run windings. See:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaded-pole_motor

https://woodgears.ca/motors/reversing.html


On 10/24/2018 10:10 PM, James Glinski [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Just my opinion but that looper might be a version of the pulse led 
> out research .a Chinese guy mad a wheel and found that if you pulsed 
> once you get three back .the heavy fly wheel would absorb the  kinetic 
> energy from the pluse and run the DC generator .the board would 
> control the pulse timing .a1000 watt pulse would return 3000 watts in 
> kinetic energy .spread that energy around the pancake motor coils to 
> reduce general over loading of a single .point .but the Chinese 
> version doesn't use iron cores .this is a lot like bedini's first self 
> runner but he adjusted it for one battery .and ran for 15 years .what 
> if he adjusted it for ten ?
>

https://www.johnsonelectric.com/en/resources-for-engineers/ac-motors/principle-of-operation



> On Oct 24, 2018 3:35 PM, "Mick [email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]" <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>     Norm,
>
>     How many different setups did you use in your formal investigation
>     of the neutral spike,  I know about the locked rotor motor but
>     were there others?
>
>     There seems to be some crossover with Don Smiths claims of
>     aluminum and copper used as opposing capacitor plates and the work
>     of the builder of the Swiss Testatika machine.
>     What if any interesting observations have you made in re to the
>     copper/aluminum function?
>
>
>     On 10/24/2018 12:13 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>>     Mick! I was the first on this site to bring up the Evenescent wave &
>>     critical angle for it was in my research on a zero loss solar heat
>>     collector.     This tied in directly to MBKIng work on the plasmoid
>>     experiments.
>>
>>     https://web.stanford.edu/~ajlucas/Evanescent%20Waves.pdf
>>     <https://web.stanford.edu/%7Eajlucas/Evanescent%20Waves.pdf>
>>     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evanescent_field
>>     <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evanescent_field>
>>
>>     On 10/23/2018 7:37 PM, Mick [email protected]
>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>     >  Zenneck or Evenescent wave
>>
>
>

HectorI hate to break it to you. I have no access to the history, as Yahoo, screwed us, when they sold the farm.Darrell has been the only link to the old files.Your old files, especially things like rectifying infrared spectrum waves, have not survived for me.Now, that I am in a position to really appreciate the usefulness of all the spectrum, which can be converted to electrical energy, then back again to heat, for instance, it is now more than ever, useful, in a very practical sense.Being completely free to move frequencies of the electro magnetic spectrum, back , and forth, with low loss has enormous advantages to day to day life.The waste that goes on simply because of an awkward to use spectrum of the frequency range, is incredible.Detectors of various elements of the spectrum can pose serious challenges. I also, have had thoughts in this direction.It has very useful scientific, as well as practical  applications when looking at biology, entomology, and a whole range of physical phenomena.To make energy efficiency takes pretty good antennas, whatever they consist of, dielectric wave guides, or whatever..Cheers warren 

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  On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 at 10:53 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
heat is just another radio frequency and it can be resonated & captured within phased micromilimetric array and rectificated into DC,,,with 100% efficiency .read my ancient postings on the subject ...


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Dave,

Try it and find out, you have an LCR meter?  If not they can be had for
not much money these days.

Air does not saturate but adding a core increases the inductance. 


On 10/25/2018 8:05 AM, Dave Muckerman [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
> Does anyone not know using brass instead of iron in a core will make
> any coil less inductive than no core or air?
> Wonder if anything good could result?
>
> air coils don't saturate right?
>
>
> On Thursday, October 25, 2018 8:03 AM, "Norman Wootan [email protected]
> [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>  
> James!   During my many years of hands on Electrical Contracting and
> Researching electrical phenomenon, my first real brush with the
> Neutral Spike was while designing small electric motors in 1981. This
> was a tall stack shaded pole motor that was designed to be reversible
> by switching the position (electrically) of the capacitor in series
> with the start windings via double pole/ double throw reversing
> switch.   This new prototype motor was MFG in Chine and test samples
> were shipped to me for QC testing.  Destructive testing included the
> reversal of the motor while running full speed forward via switching
> the reversal switch! When switched the double throw switch literally
> exploded with a loud WOOOMP! and a bright green flash. (vaporized
> copper). I had a double EE Professor from UT Arlington come over and
> observe the phenomenon. since the whole 1/6th HP motor was being run
> off 18ga. zip cord with earth bond ground wire to motor frame, it was
> quit bizarre to see a 30 amp rated switch just explode. His
> calculations could not explain where the burst of energy came from.
> After welding the contacts of several heavy duty reversing contactors
> and examination of the original motor schematic with the wiring as
> received from China ,I found that the little lady in tennis shoes
> (assembly line Chinese lady) had placed the reversing circuit and
> switch on the neutral side of the line input. In effect (when in
> transit) the entire motor electric circuitry was in an isolated state
> (floating neutral) condition which is a great big NO, NO, This set up
> the perfect scenario for the neutral spike from earth ground to
> occur.  I have written all this up several times before for this
> EVGRAY site. Most people do not understand how shaded pole motors work
> much less how you reverse their rotation. You have to reverse the
> rotating magnet field by phase angle 90 degree leading or 90 degree
> lagging (start windings) relative to the main run windings. See:
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaded-pole_motor
> https://woodgears.ca/motors/reversing.html
>
> On 10/24/2018 10:10 PM, James Glinski [email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>  
>> Just my opinion but that looper might be a version of the pulse led
>> out research .a Chinese guy mad a wheel and found that if you pulsed
>> once you get three back .the heavy fly wheel would absorb the 
>> kinetic energy from the pluse and run the DC generator .the board
>> would control the pulse timing .a1000 watt pulse would return 3000
>> watts in kinetic energy .spread that energy around the pancake motor
>> coils to reduce general over loading of a single .point .but the
>> Chinese version doesn't use iron cores .this is a lot like bedini's
>> first self runner but he adjusted it for one battery .and ran for 15
>> years .what if he adjusted it for ten ?
>
> https://www.johnsonelectric.com/en/resources-for-engineers/ac-motors/principle-of-operation
>
>
>
>> On Oct 24, 2018 3:35 PM, "Mick [email protected]
>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>      
>>     Norm,
>>     How many different setups did you use in your formal
>>     investigation of the neutral spike,  I know about the locked
>>     rotor motor but were there others?
>>     There seems to be some crossover with Don Smiths claims of
>>     aluminum and copper used as opposing capacitor plates and the
>>     work of the builder of the Swiss Testatika machine.
>>     What if any interesting observations have you made in re to the
>>     copper/aluminum function?
>>
>>     On 10/24/2018 12:13 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected]
>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>      
>>>     Mick! I was the first on this site to bring up the Evenescent
>>>     wave &
>>>     critical angle for it was in my research on a zero loss solar heat
>>>     collector.     This tied in directly to MBKIng work on the plasmoid
>>>     experiments.
>>>
>>>     https://web.stanford.edu/~ ajlucas/Evanescent%20Waves.pdf
>>>     <https://web.stanford.edu/%7Eajlucas/Evanescent%20Waves.pdf>
>>>     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Evanescent_field
>>>     <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evanescent_field>
>>>
>>>     On 10/23/2018 7:37 PM, Mick [email protected]
>>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>     >  Zenneck or Evenescent wave
>>>
>>
>
>
>
>

Warren,

Will brass get hot on an inductive stove?


On 10/25/2018 8:49 AM, Warren Keillor [email protected]
[EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> Dave
>
> The eddy currents in a brass core will get it hot, I would expect.
> Cheers Warren
>
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>
>     On Thu, 25 Oct 2018 at 11:09 AM, Dave Muckerman [email protected]
>     [EVGRAY]
>     <[email protected]> wrote:
>      
>     Does anyone not know using brass instead of iron in a core will
>     make any coil less inductive than no core or air?
>     Wonder if anything good could result?
>
>     air coils don't saturate right?
>
>
>     On Thursday, October 25, 2018 8:03 AM, "Norman Wootan
>     [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>      
>     James!   During my many years of hands on Electrical Contracting
>     and Researching electrical phenomenon, my first real brush with
>     the Neutral Spike was while designing small electric motors in
>     1981. This was a tall stack shaded pole motor that was designed to
>     be reversible by switching the position (electrically) of the
>     capacitor in series with the start windings via double pole/
>     double throw reversing switch.   This new prototype motor was MFG
>     in Chine and test samples were shipped to me for QC testing. 
>     Destructive testing included the reversal of the motor while
>     running full speed forward via switching the reversal switch! When
>     switched the double throw switch literally exploded with a loud
>     WOOOMP! and a bright green flash. (vaporized copper). I had a
>     double EE Professor from UT Arlington come over and observe the
>     phenomenon. since the whole 1/6th HP motor was being run off 18ga.
>     zip cord with earth bond ground wire to motor frame, it was quit
>     bizarre to see a 30 amp rated switch just explode. His
>     calculations could not explain where the burst of energy came
>     from. After welding the contacts of several heavy duty reversing
>     contactors and examination of the original motor schematic with
>     the wiring as received from China ,I found that the little lady in
>     tennis shoes (assembly line Chinese lady) had placed the reversing
>     circuit and switch on the neutral side of the line input. In
>     effect (when in transit) the entire motor electric circuitry was
>     in an isolated state (floating neutral) condition which is a great
>     big NO, NO, This set up the perfect scenario for the neutral spike
>     from earth ground to occur.  I have written all this up several
>     times before for this EVGRAY site. Most people do not understand
>     how shaded pole motors work much less how you reverse their
>     rotation. You have to reverse the rotating magnet field by phase
>     angle 90 degree leading or 90 degree lagging (start windings)
>     relative to the main run windings. See:
>     https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaded-pole_motor
>     https://woodgears.ca/motors/reversing.html
>
>     On 10/24/2018 10:10 PM, James Glinski [email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>      
>>     Just my opinion but that looper might be a version of the pulse
>>     led out research .a Chinese guy mad a wheel and found that if you
>>     pulsed once you get three back .the heavy fly wheel would absorb
>>     the  kinetic energy from the pluse and run the DC generator .the
>>     board would control the pulse timing .a1000 watt pulse would
>>     return 3000 watts in kinetic energy .spread that energy around
>>     the pancake motor coils to reduce general over loading of a
>>     single .point .but the Chinese version doesn't use iron cores
>>     .this is a lot like bedini's first self runner but he adjusted it
>>     for one battery .and ran for 15 years .what if he adjusted it for
>>     ten ?
>
>     https://www.johnsonelectric.com/en/resources-for-engineers/ac-motors/principle-of-operation
>
>
>
>>     On Oct 24, 2018 3:35 PM, "Mick [email protected]
>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]
>>     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>          
>>         Norm,
>>         How many different setups did you use in your formal
>>         investigation of the neutral spike,  I know about the locked
>>         rotor motor but were there others?
>>         There seems to be some crossover with Don Smiths claims of
>>         aluminum and copper used as opposing capacitor plates and the
>>         work of the builder of the Swiss Testatika machine.
>>         What if any interesting observations have you made in re to
>>         the copper/aluminum function?
>>
>>         On 10/24/2018 12:13 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected]
>>         <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>          
>>>         Mick! I was the first on this site to bring up the
>>>         Evenescent wave &
>>>         critical angle for it was in my research on a zero loss
>>>         solar heat
>>>         collector.     This tied in directly to MBKIng work on the
>>>         plasmoid
>>>         experiments.
>>>
>>>         https://web.stanford.edu/~ ajlucas/Evanescent%20Waves.pdf
>>>         <https://web.stanford.edu/%7Eajlucas/Evanescent%20Waves.pdf>
>>>         https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Evanescent_field
>>>         <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evanescent_field>
>>>
>>>         On 10/23/2018 7:37 PM, Mick [email protected]
>>>         <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>         >  Zenneck or Evenescent wave
>>>
>>
>
>
>
>

Warren,

Never tried it with aluminum, only copper but your results would make
sense as zinc-copper=brass  I think copper and aluminum are diamagnetic
so the slowing results of the dropping magnet could also be the phase
conjugate of the motional B field.  Though the nickel in stainless is
said to block the magnetic field while nickel is ferromagnetic- go
figure.  Aluminum cookware does not work on an induction cooker but does
slow a magnet, there must be more to this than just eddy currents unless
its the eddy current impedance or diamagnetics.

Very interesting!

316 seamless is supposed to be best for Joe cell.  Never played with
brass though had to warn friend performing electrolysis of water with
brass plates that poison chlorine gas can result.


On 10/25/2018 12:00 PM, Warren Keillor [email protected]
[EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> Mick
>
> I haven't tested it, but it should, just with eddy currents. You know
> the spherical magnet down the aluminium tube? The eddy currents nearly
> stop it. Same is true of brass.
> I did do most common metals as tube/ magnet eddy current tests,
> including brass. Brass, copper, and aluminium are very close. 316
> stainless is like there is no tube, 36'per sec squared, drop
> speed.pretty much zero eddy currents?
> Cheers Warren
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>
>     On Thu, 25 Oct 2018 at 2:27 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]
>     <[email protected]> wrote:
>      
>
>     Warren,
>
>     Will brass get hot on an inductive stove?
>
>
>     On 10/25/2018 8:49 AM, Warren Keillor
>     [email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>      
>>
>>     Dave
>>
>>     The eddy currents in a brass core will get it hot, I would expect.
>>     Cheers Warren
>>
>>     Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>     <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>>
>>         On Thu, 25 Oct 2018 at 11:09 AM, Dave Muckerman
>>         [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
>>         <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>          
>>         Does anyone not know using brass instead of iron in a core
>>         will make any coil less inductive than no core or air?
>>         Wonder if anything good could result?
>>
>>         air coils don't saturate right?
>>
>>
>>         On Thursday, October 25, 2018 8:03 AM, "Norman Wootan
>>         [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]"
>>         <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>          
>>         James!   During my many years of hands on Electrical
>>         Contracting and Researching electrical phenomenon, my first
>>         real brush with the Neutral Spike was while designing small
>>         electric motors in 1981. This was a tall stack shaded pole
>>         motor that was designed to be reversible by switching the
>>         position (electrically) of the capacitor in series with the
>>         start windings via double pole/ double throw reversing
>>         switch.   This new prototype motor was MFG in Chine and test
>>         samples were shipped to me for QC testing.  Destructive
>>         testing included the reversal of the motor while running full
>>         speed forward via switching the reversal switch! When
>>         switched the double throw switch literally exploded with a
>>         loud WOOOMP! and a bright green flash. (vaporized copper). I
>>         had a double EE Professor from UT Arlington come over and
>>         observe the phenomenon. since the whole 1/6th HP motor was
>>         being run off 18ga. zip cord with earth bond ground wire to
>>         motor frame, it was quit bizarre to see a 30 amp rated switch
>>         just explode. His calculations could not explain where the
>>         burst of energy came from. After welding the contacts of
>>         several heavy duty reversing contactors and examination of
>>         the original motor schematic with the wiring as received from
>>         China ,I found that the little lady in tennis shoes (assembly
>>         line Chinese lady) had placed the reversing circuit and
>>         switch on the neutral side of the line input. In effect (when
>>         in transit) the entire motor electric circuitry was in an
>>         isolated state (floating neutral) condition which is a great
>>         big NO, NO, This set up the perfect scenario for the neutral
>>         spike from earth ground to occur.  I have written all this up
>>         several times before for this EVGRAY site. Most people do not
>>         understand how shaded pole motors work much less how you
>>         reverse their rotation. You have to reverse the rotating
>>         magnet field by phase angle 90 degree leading or 90 degree
>>         lagging (start windings) relative to the main run windings. See:
>>         https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaded-pole_motor
>>         https://woodgears.ca/motors/reversing.html
>>
>>         On 10/24/2018 10:10 PM, James Glinski [email protected]
>>         <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>          
>>>         Just my opinion but that looper might be a version of the
>>>         pulse led out research .a Chinese guy mad a wheel and found
>>>         that if you pulsed once you get three back .the heavy fly
>>>         wheel would absorb the  kinetic energy from the pluse and
>>>         run the DC generator .the board would control the pulse
>>>         timing .a1000 watt pulse would return 3000 watts in kinetic
>>>         energy .spread that energy around the pancake motor coils to
>>>         reduce general over loading of a single .point .but the
>>>         Chinese version doesn't use iron cores .this is a lot like
>>>         bedini's first self runner but he adjusted it for one
>>>         battery .and ran for 15 years .what if he adjusted it for ten ?
>>
>>         https://www.johnsonelectric.com/en/resources-for-engineers/ac-motors/principle-of-operation
>>
>>
>>
>>>         On Oct 24, 2018 3:35 PM, "Mick [email protected]
>>>         <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]"
>>>         <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>
>>>              
>>>             Norm,
>>>             How many different setups did you use in your formal
>>>             investigation of the neutral spike,  I know about the
>>>             locked rotor motor but were there others?
>>>             There seems to be some crossover with Don Smiths claims
>>>             of aluminum and copper used as opposing capacitor plates
>>>             and the work of the builder of the Swiss Testatika machine.
>>>             What if any interesting observations have you made in re
>>>             to the copper/aluminum function?
>>>
>>>             On 10/24/2018 12:13 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected]
>>>             <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>              
>>>>             Mick! I was the first on this site to bring up the
>>>>             Evenescent wave &
>>>>             critical angle for it was in my research on a zero loss
>>>>             solar heat
>>>>             collector.     This tied in directly to MBKIng work on
>>>>             the plasmoid
>>>>             experiments.
>>>>
>>>>             https://web.stanford.edu/~
>>>>             ajlucas/Evanescent%20Waves.pdf
>>>>             <https://web.stanford.edu/%7Eajlucas/Evanescent%20Waves.pdf>
>>>>
>>>>             https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Evanescent_field
>>>>             <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evanescent_field>
>>>>
>>>>             On 10/23/2018 7:37 PM, Mick [email protected]
>>>>             <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>             >  Zenneck or Evenescent wave
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Does anyone not know using brass instead of iron in a core will make any coil less inductive than no core or air?Wonder if anything good could result?
air coils don't saturate right? 

    On Thursday, October 25, 2018 8:03 AM, "Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
 

      James!   During my many years of hands on Electrical Contracting and Researching electrical phenomenon, my first real brush with the Neutral Spike was while designing small electric motors in 1981. This was a tall stack shaded pole motor that was designed to be reversible by switching the position (electrically) of the capacitor in series with the start windings via double pole/ double throw reversing switch.   This new prototype motor was MFG in Chine and test samples were shipped to me for QC testing.  Destructive testing included the reversal of the motor while running full speed forward via switching the reversal switch! When switched the double throw switch literally exploded with a loud WOOOMP! and a bright green flash. (vaporized copper). I had a double EE Professor from UT Arlington come over and observe the phenomenon. since the whole 1/6th HP motor was being run off 18ga. zip cord with earth bond ground wire to motor frame, it was quit bizarre to see a 30 amp rated switch just explode. His calculations could not explain where the burst of energy came from. After welding the contacts of several heavy duty reversing contactors and examination of the original motor schematic with the wiring as received from China ,I found that the little lady in tennis shoes (assembly line Chinese lady) had placed the reversing circuit and switch on the neutral side of the line input. In effect (when in transit) the entire motor electric circuitry was in an isolated state (floating neutral) condition which is a great big NO, NO, This set up the perfect scenario for the neutral spike from earth ground to occur.  I have written all this up several times before for this EVGRAY site. Most people do not understand how shaded pole motors work much less how you reverse their rotation. You have to reverse the rotating magnet field by phase angle 90 degree leading or 90 degree lagging (start windings) relative to the main run windings. See: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaded-pole_motor https://woodgears.ca/motors/reversing.html  
 On 10/24/2018 10:10 PM, James Glinski [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    Just my opinion but that looper might be a version of the pulse led out research .a Chinese guy mad a wheel and found that if you pulsed once you get three back .the heavy fly wheel would absorb the  kinetic energy from the pluse and run the DC generator .the board would control the pulse timing .a1000 watt pulse would return 3000 watts in kinetic energy .spread that energy around the pancake motor coils to reduce general over loading of a single .point .but the Chinese version doesn't use iron cores .this is a lot like bedini's first self runner but he adjusted it for one battery .and ran for 15 years .what if he adjusted it for ten ?   
 
https://www.johnsonelectric.com/en/resources-for-engineers/ac-motors/principle-of-operation
 
 
 
 
    On Oct 24, 2018 3:35 PM, "Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
 
         Norm, How many different setups did you use in your formal investigation of the neutral spike,  I know about the locked rotor motor but were there others?
  There seems to be some crossover with Don Smiths claims of aluminum and copper used as opposing capacitor plates and the work of the builder of the Swiss Testatika machine.
 What if any interesting observations have you made in re to the copper/aluminum function?
  
 On 10/24/2018 12:13 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    Mick! I was the first on this site to bring up the Evenescent wave & 
 critical angle for it was in my research on a zero loss solar heat 
 collector.     This tied in directly to MBKIng work on the plasmoid 
 experiments.
 
 https://web.stanford.edu/~ ajlucas/Evanescent%20Waves.pdf 
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Evanescent_field
 
 On 10/23/2018 7:37 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
 >  Zenneck or Evenescent wave
 
   
 
     
   
 
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DaveThe eddy currents in a brass core will get it hot, I would expect.Cheers Warren

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  On Thu, 25 Oct 2018 at 11:09 AM, Dave Muckerman [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       

Does anyone not know using brass instead of iron in a core will make any coil less inductive than no core or air?Wonder if anything good could result?
air coils don't saturate right? 

    On Thursday, October 25, 2018 8:03 AM, "Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
 

      James!   During my many years of hands on Electrical Contracting and Researching electrical phenomenon, my first real brush with the Neutral Spike was while designing small electric motors in 1981. This was a tall stack shaded pole motor that was designed to be reversible by switching the position (electrically) of the capacitor in series with the start windings via double pole/ double throw reversing switch.   This new prototype motor was MFG in Chine and test samples were shipped to me for QC testing.  Destructive testing included the reversal of the motor while running full speed forward via switching the reversal switch! When switched the double throw switch literally exploded with a loud WOOOMP! and a bright green flash. (vaporized copper). I had a double EE Professor from UT Arlington come over and observe the phenomenon. since the whole 1/6th HP motor was being run off 18ga. zip cord with earth bond ground wire to motor frame, it was quit bizarre to see a 30 amp rated switch just explode. His calculations could not explain where the burst of energy came from. After welding the contacts of several heavy duty reversing contactors and examination of the original motor schematic with the wiring as received from China ,I found that the little lady in tennis shoes (assembly line Chinese lady) had placed the reversing circuit and switch on the neutral side of the line input. In effect (when in transit) the entire motor electric circuitry was in an isolated state (floating neutral) condition which is a great big NO, NO, This set up the perfect scenario for the neutral spike from earth ground to occur.  I have written all this up several times before for this EVGRAY site. Most people do not understand how shaded pole motors work much less how you reverse their rotation. You have to reverse the rotating magnet field by phase angle 90 degree leading or 90 degree lagging (start windings) relative to the main run windings. See: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaded-pole_motor https://woodgears.ca/motors/reversing.html  
 On 10/24/2018 10:10 PM, James Glinski [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    Just my opinion but that looper might be a version of the pulse led out research .a Chinese guy mad a wheel and found that if you pulsed once you get three back .the heavy fly wheel would absorb the  kinetic energy from the pluse and run the DC generator .the board would control the pulse timing .a1000 watt pulse would return 3000 watts in kinetic energy .spread that energy around the pancake motor coils to reduce general over loading of a single .point .but the Chinese version doesn't use iron  cores .this is a lot like bedini's first self runner but he adjusted it for one battery .and ran for 15 years .what if he adjusted it for ten ?   
 
https://www.johnsonelectric.com/en/resources-for-engineers/ac-motors/principle-of-operation
 
 
 
 
    On Oct 24, 2018 3:35 PM, "Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
 
         Norm, How many different setups did you use in your formal investigation of the neutral spike,  I know about the locked rotor motor but were there others?
  There seems to be some crossover with Don Smiths claims of aluminum and copper used as opposing capacitor plates and the work of the builder of the Swiss Testatika machine.
 What if any interesting observations have you made in re to the copper/aluminum function?
  
 On 10/24/2018 12:13 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    Mick! I was the first on this site to bring up the Evenescent wave & 
 critical angle for it was in my research on a zero loss solar heat 
 collector.     This tied in directly to MBKIng work on the plasmoid 
 experiments.
 
 https://web.stanford.edu/~ ajlucas/Evanescent%20Waves.pdf 
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Evanescent_field
 
 On 10/23/2018 7:37 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
 >  Zenneck or Evenescent wave
 
   
 
     
   
 
  

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MickI haven't tested it, but it should, just with eddy currents. You know the spherical magnet down the aluminium tube? The eddy currents nearly stop it. Same is true of brass.I did do most common metals as tube/ magnet eddy current tests, including brass. Brass, copper, and aluminium are very close. 316 stainless is like there is no tube, 36'per sec squared, drop speed.pretty much zero eddy currents?Cheers Warren
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  On Thu, 25 Oct 2018 at 2:27 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
 

Warren,
 
Will brass get hot on an inductive stove?
 
 
 On 10/25/2018 8:49 AM, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
Dave
 The eddy currents in a brass core will get it hot, I would expect. Cheers Warren
 
 Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Thu, 25 Oct 2018 at 11:09 AM, Dave Muckerman [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:           Does anyone not know using brass instead of iron in a core will make any coil less inductive than no core or air? Wonder if anything good could result? 
  air coils don't saturate right? 
 
      On Thursday, October 25, 2018 8:03 AM, "Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
  
 
           James!   During my many years of hands on Electrical Contracting and Researching electrical phenomenon, my first real brush  with the Neutral Spike was while designing small electric motors in 1981. This was a tall stack shaded pole  motor that was designed to be reversible by switching the position (electrically) of the capacitor in series  with the start windings via double pole/ double throw reversing switch.   This new prototype motor was MFG in Chine and test samples were shipped to me for QC testing.  Destructive testing included the reversal of the motor while running full speed forward via switching the reversal  switch! When switched the double throw switch literally exploded with a loud WOOOMP! and a bright  green flash. (vaporized copper). I had a double EE Professor from UT Arlington come over and observe the  phenomenon. since the whole 1/6th HP motor was being run off 18ga. zip cord with earth bond ground wire  to motor frame, it was quit bizarre to see a 30 amp rated switch just explode. His calculations could not explain where the  burst of energy came from. After welding the contacts of several heavy duty reversing contactors  and examination of the original motor schematic with the wiring as received from China ,I found that the little lady in tennis shoes (assembly line Chinese lady) had placed the reversing circuit and switch on the neutral  side of the line input. In effect (when in transit) the entire motor electric circuitry was in an isolated state (floating neutral) condition which is a great big NO, NO, This set up the perfect scenario for the  neutral spike from earth ground to occur.  I have written all this up several times before for this EVGRAY site. Most people do not understand how shaded  pole motors work much less how you reverse their rotation. You have to reverse the rotating magnet field  by phase angle 90 degree leading or 90 degree lagging (start windings) relative to the main run windings. See: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaded-pole_motor https://woodgears.ca/motors/reversing.html  
 On 10/24/2018 10:10 PM, James Glinski [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    Just my opinion but that looper might be a version of the pulse led out research .a  Chinese guy mad a wheel and found that if you pulsed once you get three back .the heavy  fly wheel would absorb the  kinetic energy from the pluse and run the DC generator .the board would  control the pulse timing .a1000 watt pulse would return 3000 watts in kinetic energy .spread that energy around the pancake motor coils to reduce general over loading of a  single .point .but the Chinese version doesn't use iron cores .this is a lot like bedini's first self runner but he adjusted it for one battery .and ran for 15 years .what if he  adjusted it for ten ?   
 
 https://www.johnsonelectric.com/en/resources-for-engineers/ac-motors/principle-of-operation
 
 
 
 
    On Oct 24, 2018 3:35 PM, "Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
 
         Norm, How many different setups did you use in your formal investigation  of the neutral spike,  I know about the locked rotor motor but were there others?
  There seems to be some crossover with Don Smiths claims of aluminum  and copper used as opposing capacitor plates and the work of the builder of the Swiss Testatika machine.
 What if any interesting observations have you made in re to the  copper/aluminum function?
  
 On 10/24/2018 12:13 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    Mick! I was the first on this site to bring up the Evenescent wave & 
 critical angle for it was in my research on a zero loss solar heat 
 collector.     This tied in directly to MBKIng work on the plasmoid 
 experiments.
 
 https://web.stanford.edu/~ ajlucas/Evanescent%20Waves.pdf 
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evanescent_field
 
 On 10/23/2018 7:37 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
 >  Zenneck or Evenescent wave
 
   
 
     
     
 
     
 
             
   
 
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Hi Dave,

Using good conductors as core or even just as a shorted winding around an iron (or air) core reduces the inductance. Shorting the secondary of a transformer cancels the inductance of the primary coil.

Regards
Ole


---In [email protected], <laser.rod@...> wrote :

 Does anyone not know using brass instead of iron in a core will make any coil less inductive than no core or air?
 Wonder if anything good could result?
 

 air coils don't saturate right?
 


 On Thursday, October 25, 2018 8:03 AM, "Norman Wootan nwootan@... [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:

 

   
 James!   During my many years of hands on Electrical Contracting and Researching electrical phenomenon, my first real brush with the Neutral Spike was while designing small electric motors in 1981. This was a tall stack shaded pole motor that was designed to be reversible by switching the position (electrically) of the capacitor in series with the start windings via double pole/ double throw reversing switch.   This new prototype motor was MFG in Chine and test samples were shipped to me for QC testing.  Destructive testing included the reversal of the motor while running full speed forward via switching the reversal switch! When switched the double throw switch literally exploded with a loud WOOOMP! and a bright green flash. (vaporized copper). I had a double EE Professor from UT Arlington come over and observe the phenomenon. since the whole 1/6th HP motor was being run off 18ga. zip cord with earth bond ground wire to motor frame, it was quit bizarre to see a 30 amp rated switch just explode. His calculations could not explain where the burst of energy came from. After welding the contacts of several heavy duty reversing contactors and examination of the original motor schematic with the wiring as received from China ,I found that the little lady in tennis shoes (assembly line Chinese lady) had placed the reversing circuit and switch on the neutral side of the line input. In effect (when in transit) the entire motor electric circuitry was in an isolated state (floating neutral) condition which is a great big NO, NO, This set up the perfect scenario for the neutral spike from earth ground to occur.  I have written all this up several times before for this EVGRAY site. Most people do not understand how shaded pole motors work much less how you reverse their rotation. You have to reverse the rotating magnet field by phase angle 90 degree leading or 90 degree lagging (start windings) relative to the main run windings. See:
 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaded-pole_motor https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaded-pole_motor
 https://woodgears.ca/motors/reversing.html https://woodgears.ca/motors/reversing.html
 
 
 On 10/24/2018 10:10 PM, James Glinski jglinski01@... mailto:jglinski01@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
 
   Just my opinion but that looper might be a version of the pulse led out research .a Chinese guy mad a wheel and found that if you pulsed once you get three back .the heavy fly wheel would absorb the  kinetic energy from the pluse and run the DC generator .the board would control the pulse timing .a1000 watt pulse would return 3000 watts in kinetic energy .spread that energy around the pancake motor coils to reduce general over loading of a single .point .but the Chinese version doesn't use iron cores .this is a lot like bedini's first self runner but he adjusted it for one battery .and ran for 15 years .what if he adjusted it for ten ? 
 
 
 https://www.johnsonelectric.com/en/resources-for-engineers/ac-motors/principle-of-operation https://www.johnsonelectric.com/en/resources-for-engineers/ac-motors/principle-of-operation
 
 
 
 On Oct 24, 2018 3:35 PM, "Mick mkjekyll@... mailto:mkjekyll@... [EVGRAY]" <[email protected] mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
   
 Norm,
 How many different setups did you use in your formal investigation of the neutral spike,  I know about the locked rotor motor but were there others?
 
 There seems to be some crossover with Don Smiths claims of aluminum and copper used as opposing capacitor plates and the work of the builder of the Swiss Testatika machine.
 What if any interesting observations have you made in re to the copper/aluminum function?
 
 
 On 10/24/2018 12:13 PM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... mailto:nwootan@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
 
   Mick! I was the first on this site to bring up the Evenescent wave & 
 critical angle for it was in my research on a zero loss solar heat 
 collector.     This tied in directly to MBKIng work on the plasmoid 
 experiments.
 
 https://web.stanford.edu/~ ajlucas/Evanescent%20Waves.pdf https://web.stanford.edu/%7Eajlucas/Evanescent%20Waves.pdf 
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Evanescent_field https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evanescent_field
 
 On 10/23/2018 7:37 PM, Mick mkjekyll@... mailto:mkjekyll@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
 >  Zenneck or Evenescent wave

Warren good point, about the eddy current.
Oh way back you wrote about grounding a solar system....I like to keep mine floating but have ground wire surrounding panels to collect static.My home wiring is left as is with neutral grounded at many points through appliances.I found it impossible to get it all floating.I recommend using a isolation Tx on your inverter to home wiring so you inverter and batterys won't become hot!
My cable internet uses a ground and needs 12 volts DC for the modem from my solar DC and caused havoc without the isolation. 

    On Thursday, October 25, 2018 10:49 AM, "Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
 

     DaveThe eddy currents in a brass core will get it hot, I would expect.Cheers Warren

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  On Thu, 25 Oct 2018 at 11:09 AM, Dave Muckerman [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       Does anyone not know using brass instead of iron in a core will make any coil less inductive than no core or air?Wonder if anything good could result?
air coils don't saturate right? 

    On Thursday, October 25, 2018 8:03 AM, "Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
 

      James!   During my many years of hands on Electrical Contracting and Researching electrical phenomenon, my first real brush with the Neutral Spike was while designing small electric motors in 1981. This was a tall stack shaded pole motor that was designed to be reversible by switching the position (electrically) of the capacitor in series with the start windings via double pole/ double throw reversing switch.   This new prototype motor was MFG in Chine and test samples were shipped to me for QC testing.  Destructive testing included the reversal of the motor while running full speed forward via switching the reversal switch! When switched the double throw switch literally exploded with a loud WOOOMP! and a bright green flash. (vaporized copper). I had a double EE Professor from UT Arlington come over and observe the phenomenon. since the whole 1/6th HP motor was being run off 18ga. zip cord with earth bond ground wire to motor frame, it was quit bizarre to see a 30 amp rated switch just explode. His calculations could not explain where the burst of energy came from. After welding the contacts of several heavy duty reversing contactors and examination of the original motor schematic with the wiring as received from China ,I found that the little lady in tennis shoes (assembly line Chinese lady) had placed the reversing circuit and switch on the neutral side of the line input. In effect (when in transit) the entire motor electric circuitry was in an isolated state (floating neutral) condition which is a great big NO, NO, This set up the perfect scenario for the neutral spike from earth ground to occur.  I have written all this up several times before for this EVGRAY site. Most people do not understand how shaded pole motors work much less how you reverse their rotation. You have to reverse the rotating magnet field by phase angle 90 degree leading or 90 degree lagging (start windings) relative to the main run windings. See: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaded-pole_motor https://woodgears.ca/motors/reversing.html  
 On 10/24/2018 10:10 PM, James Glinski [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    Just my opinion but that looper might be a version of the pulse led out research .a Chinese guy mad a wheel and found that if you pulsed once you get three back .the heavy fly wheel would absorb the  kinetic energy from the pluse and run the DC generator .the board would control the pulse timing .a1000 watt pulse would return 3000 watts in kinetic energy .spread that energy around the pancake motor coils to reduce general over loading of a single .point .but the Chinese version doesn't use iron  cores .this is a lot like bedini's first self runner but he adjusted it for one battery .and ran for 15 years .what if he adjusted it for ten ?   
 
https://www.johnsonelectric.com/en/resources-for-engineers/ac-motors/principle-of-operation
 
 
 
 
    On Oct 24, 2018 3:35 PM, "Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
 
         Norm, How many different setups did you use in your formal investigation of the neutral spike,  I know about the locked rotor motor but were there others?
  There seems to be some crossover with Don Smiths claims of aluminum and copper used as opposing capacitor plates and the work of the builder of the Swiss Testatika machine.
 What if any interesting observations have you made in re to the copper/aluminum function?
  
 On 10/24/2018 12:13 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    Mick! I was the first on this site to bring up the Evenescent wave & 
 critical angle for it was in my research on a zero loss solar heat 
 collector.     This tied in directly to MBKIng work on the plasmoid 
 experiments.
 
 https://web.stanford.edu/~ ajlucas/Evanescent%20Waves.pdf 
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Evanescent_field
 
 On 10/23/2018 7:37 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
 >  Zenneck or Evenescent wave
 
   
 
     
   
 
  

       
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Warren,

I found this for you, maybe you can look inside your induction cooker
and see if this matches up to proceed with a lobotomy.  Don't forget to
discharge the caps, those little poly suckers can hold a charge for days.

http://openschemes.com/2011/04/28/manual-control-of-the-1-8kw-induction-cooktop/


On 10/26/2018 5:27 PM, Warren Keillor [email protected]
[EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> Hi Jim
>
> Yes I have a big Bedini wheel, capable of mounting 18 coils on the 48"
> diameter 3/8" plexiglas disc mounting platform.
> It also has a 5/16" drive shaft to mount accessories, should that come
> to mind.
> Cheers Warren
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>
>     On Fri, 26 Oct 2018 at 2:22 PM, James Glinski [email protected]
>     [EVGRAY]
>     <[email protected]> wrote:
>      
>
>     Warren I thought of you because you have a functioning Bedini
>     wheel .I was reviewing some Bedini DVDs and remembered he said
>     that he was running his units on moon light .well remember the old
>     oil lamps of the 1800 ,s what if you could find the right light
>     like a LED and put a solar panel behind it on the wall .if the
>     moon can run the units.. a light should do better .and he said
>     that the magneto effect was the real power of the unit and is
>     generally disconnected from the power source in that there's a
>     sweet spot and adding more power doesn't increase the scalar out
>     put .he said some of his units were 18 times OU .so if the right
>     combination could be found you would have permit light and
>     recharge day and night .your yacht could have its own sun
>     regardless of the time or weather and be fully lite up constantly
>     .the mono plasma solar cells would be best for this .a looper ?
>     Mine is in parts right now .also you might use a florescent four
>     foot tube and run it on a small flyback transformer .it's plasma
>     and the light off of it would be combined with the EMF coming off
>     the plasma to the panel to help charge .and old flyback just whine
>     wires around the exposed core and put a diode to that and plug
>     into a varac and slowly ajust to brightness ..they run on 700
>     volts but 25,000 would really run it . just a thought .jim PS he
>     said Watson's unit would turn on only occasionally due to that big
>     fly wheel meaning it was running on the magneto effect with out
>     power that's why it was so OU .absorbing the pluse kick energy and
>     just running on that .next up grade is a big flywheel .on that I
>     was thinking concrete might work well heavy pourable long lasting
>     .? Jim out 
>
>
>
>     On Friday, October 26, 2018, Dave Muckerman [email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>          
>         Warren good point, about the eddy current.
>
>         Oh way back you wrote about grounding a solar system....
>         I like to keep mine floating but have ground wire surrounding
>         panels to collect static.
>         My home wiring is left as is with neutral grounded at many
>         points through appliances..
>         I found it impossible to get it all floating.
>         I recommend using a isolation Tx on your inverter to home
>         wiring so you inverter and batterys won't become hot!
>         My cable internet uses a ground and needs 12 volts DC for the
>         modem from my solar DC and caused havoc without the isolation.
>
>
>         On Thursday, October 25, 2018 10:49 AM, "Warren Keillor
>         [email protected]
>         <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]"
>         <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>
>          
>         Dave
>         The eddy currents in a brass core will get it hot, I would expect.
>         Cheers Warren
>
>         Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>         <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>
>             On Thu, 25 Oct 2018 at 11:09 AM, Dave Muckerman
>             [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
>             <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>             wrote:
>              
>             Does anyone not know using brass instead of iron in a core
>             will make any coil less inductive than no core or air?
>             Wonder if anything good could result?
>
>             air coils don't saturate right?
>
>
>             On Thursday, October 25, 2018 8:03 AM, "Norman Wootan
>             [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]"
>             <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>             wrote:
>
>
>              
>             James!   During my many years of hands on Electrical
>             Contracting and Researching electrical phenomenon, my
>             first real brush with the Neutral Spike was while
>             designing small electric motors in 1981. This was a tall
>             stack shaded pole motor that was designed to be reversible
>             by switching the position (electrically) of the capacitor
>             in series with the start windings via double pole/ double
>             throw reversing switch.   This new prototype motor was MFG
>             in Chine and test samples were shipped to me for QC
>             testing.  Destructive testing included the reversal of the
>             motor while running full speed forward via switching the
>             reversal switch! When switched the double throw switch
>             literally exploded with a loud WOOOMP! and a bright green
>             flash. (vaporized copper). I had a double EE Professor
>             from UT Arlington come over and observe the phenomenon.
>             since the whole 1/6th HP motor was being run off 18ga. zip
>             cord with earth bond ground wire to motor frame, it was
>             quit bizarre to see a 30 amp rated switch just explode.
>             His calculations could not explain where the burst of
>             energy came from. After welding the contacts of several
>             heavy duty reversing contactors and examination of the
>             original motor schematic with the wiring as received from
>             China ,I found that the little lady in tennis shoes
>             (assembly line Chinese lady) had placed the reversing
>             circuit and switch on the neutral side of the line input.
>             In effect (when in transit) the entire motor electric
>             circuitry was in an isolated state (floating neutral)
>             condition which is a great big NO, NO, This set up the
>             perfect scenario for the neutral spike from earth ground
>             to occur.  I have written all this up several times before
>             for this EVGRAY site. Most people do not understand how
>             shaded pole motors work much less how you reverse their
>             rotation. You have to reverse the rotating magnet field by
>             phase angle 90 degree leading or 90 degree lagging (start
>             windings) relative to the main run windings. See:
>             https://en.m.wikipedia.org/ wiki/Shaded-pole_motor
>             <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaded-pole_motor>
>             https://woodgears.ca/motors/ reversing.html
>             <https://woodgears.ca/motors/reversing.html>
>
>             On 10/24/2018 10:10 PM, James Glinski [email protected]
>             <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>              
>>             Just my opinion but that looper might be a version of the
>>             pulse led out research .a Chinese guy mad a wheel and
>>             found that if you pulsed once you get three back .the
>>             heavy fly wheel would absorb the  kinetic energy from the
>>             pluse and run the DC generator .the board would control
>>             the pulse timing .a1000 watt pulse would return 3000
>>             watts in kinetic energy .spread that energy around the
>>             pancake motor coils to reduce general over loading of a
>>             single .point .but the Chinese version doesn't use iron
>>             cores .this is a lot like bedini's first self runner but
>>             he adjusted it for one battery .and ran for 15 years
>>             .what if he adjusted it for ten ?
>
>             https://www.johnsonelectric. com/en/resources-for-
>             engineers/ac-motors/principle- of-operation
>             <https://www.johnsonelectric.com/en/resources-for-engineers/ac-motors/principle-of-operation>
>
>
>
>>             On Oct 24, 2018 3:35 PM, "Mick [email protected]
>>             <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]"
>>             <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>             wrote:
>>
>>                  
>>                 Norm,
>>                 How many different setups did you use in your formal
>>                 investigation of the neutral spike,  I know about the
>>                 locked rotor motor but were there others?
>>                 There seems to be some crossover with Don Smiths
>>                 claims of aluminum and copper used as opposing
>>                 capacitor plates and the work of the builder of the
>>                 Swiss Testatika machine.
>>                 What if any interesting observations have you made in
>>                 re to the copper/aluminum function?
>>
>>                 On 10/24/2018 12:13 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected]
>>                 <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>                  
>>>                 Mick! I was the first on this site to bring up the
>>>                 Evenescent wave &
>>>                 critical angle for it was in my research on a zero
>>>                 loss solar heat
>>>                 collector.     This tied in directly to MBKIng work
>>>                 on the plasmoid
>>>                 experiments.
>>>
>>>                 https://web.stanford.edu/~
>>>                 ajlucas/Evanescent%20Waves.pdf
>>>                 <https://web.stanford.edu/%7Eajlucas/Evanescent%20Waves.pdf>
>>>
>>>                 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Evanescent_field
>>>                 <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evanescent_field>
>>>
>>>                 On 10/23/2018 7:37 PM, Mick [email protected]
>>>                 <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>                 >  Zenneck or Evenescent wave
>>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Warren I thought of you because you have a functioning Bedini wheel .I was
reviewing some Bedini DVDs and remembered he said that he was running his
units on moon light .well remember the old oil lamps of the 1800 ,s what if
you could find the right light like a LED and put a solar panel behind it
on the wall .if the moon can run the units.. a light should do better .and
he said that the magneto effect was the real power of the unit and is
generally disconnected from the power source in that there's a sweet spot
and adding more power doesn't increase the scalar out put .he said some of
his units were 18 times OU .so if the right combination could be found you
would have permit light and recharge day and night .your yacht could have
its own sun regardless of the time or weather and be fully lite up
constantly .the mono plasma solar cells would be best for this .a looper ?
Mine is in parts right now .also you might use a florescent four foot tube
and run it on a small flyback transformer .it's plasma and the light off of
it would be combined with the EMF coming off the plasma to the panel to
help charge .and old flyback just whine wires around the exposed core and
put a diode to that and plug into a varac and slowly ajust to brightness
.they run on 700 volts but 25,000 would really run it . just a thought .jim
PS he said Watson's unit would turn on only occasionally due to that big
fly wheel meaning it was running on the magneto effect with out power
that's why it was so OU .absorbing the pluse kick energy and just running
on that .next up grade is a big flywheel .on that I was thinking concrete
might work well heavy pourable long lasting .? Jim out


On Friday, October 26, 2018, Dave Muckerman [email protected] [EVGRAY] <
[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> Warren good point, about the eddy current.
>
> Oh way back you wrote about grounding a solar system....
> I like to keep mine floating but have ground wire surrounding panels to
> collect static.
> My home wiring is left as is with neutral grounded at many points through
> appliances.
> I found it impossible to get it all floating.
> I recommend using a isolation Tx on your inverter to home wiring so you
> inverter and batterys won't become hot!
> My cable internet uses a ground and needs 12 volts DC for the modem from
> my solar DC and caused havoc without the isolation.
>
>
> On Thursday, October 25, 2018 10:49 AM, "Warren Keillor
> [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> Dave
> The eddy currents in a brass core will get it hot, I would expect.
> Cheers Warren
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>
> On Thu, 25 Oct 2018 at 11:09 AM, Dave Muckerman [email protected] [EVGRAY]
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Does anyone not know using brass instead of iron in a core will make any
> coil less inductive than no core or air?
> Wonder if anything good could result?
>
> air coils don't saturate right?
>
>
> On Thursday, October 25, 2018 8:03 AM, "Norman Wootan [email protected]
> [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> James!   During my many years of hands on Electrical Contracting and
> Researching electrical phenomenon, my first real brush with the Neutral
> Spike was while designing small electric motors in 1981. This was a tall
> stack shaded pole motor that was designed to be reversible by switching the
> position (electrically) of the capacitor in series with the start windings
> via double pole/ double throw reversing switch.   This new prototype motor
> was MFG in Chine and test samples were shipped to me for QC testing.
> Destructive testing included the reversal of the motor while running full
> speed forward via switching the reversal switch! When switched the double
> throw switch literally exploded with a loud WOOOMP! and a bright green
> flash. (vaporized copper). I had a double EE Professor from UT Arlington
> come over and observe the phenomenon. since the whole 1/6th HP motor was
> being run off 18ga. zip cord with earth bond ground wire to motor frame, it
> was quit bizarre to see a 30 amp rated switch just explode. His
> calculations could not explain where the burst of energy came from. After
> welding the contacts of several heavy duty reversing contactors and
> examination of the original motor schematic with the wiring as received
> from China ,I found that the little lady in tennis shoes (assembly line
> Chinese lady) had placed the reversing circuit and switch on the neutral
> side of the line input. In effect (when in transit) the entire motor
> electric circuitry was in an isolated state (floating neutral) condition
> which is a great big NO, NO, This set up the perfect scenario for the
> neutral spike from earth ground to occur.  I have written all this up
> several times before for this EVGRAY site. Most people do not understand
> how shaded pole motors work much less how you reverse their rotation. You
> have to reverse the rotating magnet field by phase angle 90 degree leading
> or 90 degree lagging (start windings) relative to the main run windings.
> See:
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaded-pole_motor
> https://woodgears.ca/motors/reversing.html
>
> On 10/24/2018 10:10 PM, James Glinski [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
>
> Just my opinion but that looper might be a version of the pulse led out
> research .a Chinese guy mad a wheel and found that if you pulsed once you
> get three back .the heavy fly wheel would absorb the  kinetic energy from
> the pluse and run the DC generator .the board would control the pulse
> timing .a1000 watt pulse would return 3000 watts in kinetic energy .spread
> that energy around the pancake motor coils to reduce general over loading
> of a single .point .but the Chinese version doesn't use iron cores .this is
> a lot like bedini's first self runner but he adjusted it for one battery
> .and ran for 15 years .what if he adjusted it for ten ?
>
>
> https://www.johnsonelectric.com/en/resources-for-
> engineers/ac-motors/principle-of-operation
>
>
>
> On Oct 24, 2018 3:35 PM, "Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Norm,
> How many different setups did you use in your formal investigation of the
> neutral spike,  I know about the locked rotor motor but were there others?
> There seems to be some crossover with Don Smiths claims of aluminum and
> copper used as opposing capacitor plates and the work of the builder of the
> Swiss Testatika machine.
> What if any interesting observations have you made in re to the
> copper/aluminum function?
>
> On 10/24/2018 12:13 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
>
> Mick! I was the first on this site to bring up the Evenescent wave &
> critical angle for it was in my research on a zero loss solar heat
> collector.     This tied in directly to MBKIng work on the plasmoid
> experiments.
>
> https://web.stanford.edu/~ ajlucas/Evanescent%20Waves.pdf
> <https://web.stanford.edu/%7Eajlucas/Evanescent%20Waves.pdf>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Evanescent_field
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evanescent_field>
>
> On 10/23/2018 7:37 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
> >  Zenneck or Evenescent wave
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>