Re: [EVGRAY] Magnifing transmiter FCC permit

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Warren,

Never tried it with aluminum, only copper but your results would make
sense as zinc-copper=brass  I think copper and aluminum are diamagnetic
so the slowing results of the dropping magnet could also be the phase
conjugate of the motional B field.  Though the nickel in stainless is
said to block the magnetic field while nickel is ferromagnetic- go
figure.  Aluminum cookware does not work on an induction cooker but does
slow a magnet, there must be more to this than just eddy currents unless
its the eddy current impedance or diamagnetics.

Very interesting!

316 seamless is supposed to be best for Joe cell.  Never played with
brass though had to warn friend performing electrolysis of water with
brass plates that poison chlorine gas can result.


On 10/25/2018 12:00 PM, Warren Keillor [email protected]
[EVGRAY] wrote:
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> Mick
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> I haven't tested it, but it should, just with eddy currents. You know
> the spherical magnet down the aluminium tube? The eddy currents nearly
> stop it. Same is true of brass.
> I did do most common metals as tube/ magnet eddy current tests,
> including brass. Brass, copper, and aluminium are very close. 316
> stainless is like there is no tube, 36'per sec squared, drop
> speed.pretty much zero eddy currents?
> Cheers Warren
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>     On Thu, 25 Oct 2018 at 2:27 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]
>     <[email protected]> wrote:
>      
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>     Warren,
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>     Will brass get hot on an inductive stove?
>
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>     On 10/25/2018 8:49 AM, Warren Keillor
>     [email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>      
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>>     Dave
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>>     The eddy currents in a brass core will get it hot, I would expect.
>>     Cheers Warren
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>>         On Thu, 25 Oct 2018 at 11:09 AM, Dave Muckerman
>>         [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
>>         <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>          
>>         Does anyone not know using brass instead of iron in a core
>>         will make any coil less inductive than no core or air?
>>         Wonder if anything good could result?
>>
>>         air coils don't saturate right?
>>
>>
>>         On Thursday, October 25, 2018 8:03 AM, "Norman Wootan
>>         [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]"
>>         <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
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>>          
>>         James!   During my many years of hands on Electrical
>>         Contracting and Researching electrical phenomenon, my first
>>         real brush with the Neutral Spike was while designing small
>>         electric motors in 1981. This was a tall stack shaded pole
>>         motor that was designed to be reversible by switching the
>>         position (electrically) of the capacitor in series with the
>>         start windings via double pole/ double throw reversing
>>         switch.   This new prototype motor was MFG in Chine and test
>>         samples were shipped to me for QC testing.  Destructive
>>         testing included the reversal of the motor while running full
>>         speed forward via switching the reversal switch! When
>>         switched the double throw switch literally exploded with a
>>         loud WOOOMP! and a bright green flash. (vaporized copper). I
>>         had a double EE Professor from UT Arlington come over and
>>         observe the phenomenon. since the whole 1/6th HP motor was
>>         being run off 18ga. zip cord with earth bond ground wire to
>>         motor frame, it was quit bizarre to see a 30 amp rated switch
>>         just explode. His calculations could not explain where the
>>         burst of energy came from. After welding the contacts of
>>         several heavy duty reversing contactors and examination of
>>         the original motor schematic with the wiring as received from
>>         China ,I found that the little lady in tennis shoes (assembly
>>         line Chinese lady) had placed the reversing circuit and
>>         switch on the neutral side of the line input. In effect (when
>>         in transit) the entire motor electric circuitry was in an
>>         isolated state (floating neutral) condition which is a great
>>         big NO, NO, This set up the perfect scenario for the neutral
>>         spike from earth ground to occur.  I have written all this up
>>         several times before for this EVGRAY site. Most people do not
>>         understand how shaded pole motors work much less how you
>>         reverse their rotation. You have to reverse the rotating
>>         magnet field by phase angle 90 degree leading or 90 degree
>>         lagging (start windings) relative to the main run windings. See:
>>         https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaded-pole_motor
>>         https://woodgears.ca/motors/reversing.html
>>
>>         On 10/24/2018 10:10 PM, James Glinski [email protected]
>>         <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>          
>>>         Just my opinion but that looper might be a version of the
>>>         pulse led out research .a Chinese guy mad a wheel and found
>>>         that if you pulsed once you get three back .the heavy fly
>>>         wheel would absorb the  kinetic energy from the pluse and
>>>         run the DC generator .the board would control the pulse
>>>         timing .a1000 watt pulse would return 3000 watts in kinetic
>>>         energy .spread that energy around the pancake motor coils to
>>>         reduce general over loading of a single .point .but the
>>>         Chinese version doesn't use iron cores .this is a lot like
>>>         bedini's first self runner but he adjusted it for one
>>>         battery .and ran for 15 years .what if he adjusted it for ten ?
>>
>>         https://www.johnsonelectric.com/en/resources-for-engineers/ac-motors/principle-of-operation
>>
>>
>>
>>>         On Oct 24, 2018 3:35 PM, "Mick [email protected]
>>>         <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]"
>>>         <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>
>>>              
>>>             Norm,
>>>             How many different setups did you use in your formal
>>>             investigation of the neutral spike,  I know about the
>>>             locked rotor motor but were there others?
>>>             There seems to be some crossover with Don Smiths claims
>>>             of aluminum and copper used as opposing capacitor plates
>>>             and the work of the builder of the Swiss Testatika machine.
>>>             What if any interesting observations have you made in re
>>>             to the copper/aluminum function?
>>>
>>>             On 10/24/2018 12:13 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected]
>>>             <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>              
>>>>             Mick! I was the first on this site to bring up the
>>>>             Evenescent wave &
>>>>             critical angle for it was in my research on a zero loss
>>>>             solar heat
>>>>             collector.     This tied in directly to MBKIng work on
>>>>             the plasmoid
>>>>             experiments.
>>>>
>>>>             https://web.stanford.edu/~
>>>>             ajlucas/Evanescent%20Waves.pdf
>>>>             <https://web.stanford.edu/%7Eajlucas/Evanescent%20Waves.pdf>
>>>>
>>>>             https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Evanescent_field
>>>>             <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evanescent_field>
>>>>
>>>>             On 10/23/2018 7:37 PM, Mick [email protected]
>>>>             <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>             >  Zenneck or Evenescent wave
>>>>
>>>
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