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Hi JimYes I have a big Bedini wheel, capable of mounting 18 coils on the 48" diameter 3/8" plexiglas disc mounting platform.It also has a 5/16" drive shaft to mount accessories, should that come to mind.Cheers Warren

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  On Fri, 26 Oct 2018 at 2:22 PM, James Glinski [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
Warren I thought of you because you have a functioning Bedini wheel .I was reviewing some Bedini DVDs and remembered he said that he was running his units on moon light .well remember the old oil lamps of the 1800 ,s what if you could find the right light like a LED and put a solar panel behind it on the wall .if the moon can run the units.. a light should do better .and he said that the magneto effect was the real power of the unit and is generally disconnected from the power source in that there's a sweet spot and adding more power doesn't increase the scalar out put .he said some of his units were 18 times OU .so if the right combination could be found you would have permit light and recharge day and night .your yacht could have its own sun regardless of the time or weather and be fully lite up constantly .the mono plasma solar cells would be best for this .a looper ? Mine is in parts right now .also you might use a florescent four foot tube and run it on a small flyback transformer .it's plasma and the light off of it would be combined with the EMF coming off the plasma to the panel to help charge .and old flyback just whine wires around the exposed core and put a diode to that and plug into a varac and slowly ajust to brightness ..they run on 700 volts but 25,000 would really run it . just a thought .jim PS he said Watson's unit would turn on only occasionally due to that big fly wheel meaning it was running on the magneto effect with out power that's why it was so OU .absorbing the pluse kick energy and just running on that .next up grade is a big flywheel .on that I was thinking concrete might work well heavy pourable long lasting .? Jim out 


On Friday, October 26, 2018, Dave Muckerman [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:

     

Warren good point, about the eddy current.
Oh way back you wrote about grounding a solar system....I like to keep mine floating but have ground wire surrounding panels to collect static.My home wiring is left as is with neutral grounded at many points through appliances..I found it impossible to get it all floating.I recommend using a isolation Tx on your inverter to home wiring so you inverter and batterys won't become hot!
My cable internet uses a ground and needs 12 volts DC for the modem from my solar DC and caused havoc without the isolation. 

    On Thursday, October 25, 2018 10:49 AM, "Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
 

     DaveThe eddy currents in a brass core will get it hot, I would expect.Cheers Warren

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  On Thu, 25 Oct 2018 at 11:09 AM, Dave Muckerman [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       Does anyone not know using brass instead of iron in a core will make any coil less inductive than no core or air?Wonder if anything good could result?
air coils don't saturate right? 

    On Thursday, October 25, 2018 8:03 AM, "Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
 

      James!   During my many years of hands on Electrical Contracting and Researching electrical phenomenon, my first real brush with the Neutral Spike was while designing small electric motors in 1981. This was a tall stack shaded pole motor that was designed to be reversible by switching the position (electrically) of the capacitor in series with the start windings via double pole/ double throw reversing switch.   This new prototype motor was MFG in Chine and test samples were shipped to me for QC testing.  Destructive testing included the reversal of the motor while running full speed forward via switching the reversal switch! When switched the double throw switch literally exploded with a loud WOOOMP! and a bright green flash. (vaporized copper). I had a double EE Professor from UT Arlington come over and observe the phenomenon. since the whole 1/6th HP motor was being run off 18ga. zip cord with earth bond ground wire to motor frame, it was quit bizarre to see a 30 amp rated switch just explode. His calculations could not explain where the burst of energy came from. After welding the contacts of several heavy duty reversing contactors and examination of the original motor schematic with the wiring as received from China ,I found that the little lady in tennis shoes (assembly line Chinese lady) had placed the reversing circuit and switch on the neutral side of the line input. In effect (when in transit) the entire motor electric circuitry was in an isolated state (floating neutral) condition which is a great big NO, NO, This set up the perfect scenario for the neutral spike from earth ground to occur.  I have written all this up several times before for this EVGRAY site. Most people do not understand how shaded pole motors work much less how you reverse their rotation. You have to reverse the rotating magnet field by phase angle 90 degree leading or 90 degree lagging (start windings) relative to the main run windings. See: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/ wiki/Shaded-pole_motor https://woodgears.ca/motors/ reversing.html  
 On 10/24/2018 10:10 PM, James Glinski [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    Just my opinion but that looper might be a version of the pulse led out research .a Chinese guy mad a wheel and found that if you pulsed once you get three back .the heavy fly wheel would absorb the  kinetic energy from the pluse and run the DC generator .the board would control the pulse timing .a1000 watt pulse would return 3000 watts in kinetic energy .spread that energy around the pancake motor coils to reduce general over loading of a single .point .but the Chinese version doesn't use iron  cores .this is a lot like bedini's first self runner but he adjusted it for one battery .and ran for 15 years .what if he adjusted it for ten ?   
 
https://www.johnsonelectric. com/en/resources-for- engineers/ac-motors/principle- of-operation
 
 
 
 
    On Oct 24, 2018 3:35 PM, "Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
 
         Norm, How many different setups did you use in your formal investigation of the neutral spike,  I know about the locked rotor motor but were there others?
  There seems to be some crossover with Don Smiths claims of aluminum and copper used as opposing capacitor plates and the work of the builder of the Swiss Testatika machine.
 What if any interesting observations have you made in re to the copper/aluminum function?
  
 On 10/24/2018 12:13 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    Mick! I was the first on this site to bring up the Evenescent wave & 
 critical angle for it was in my research on a zero loss solar heat 
 collector.     This tied in directly to MBKIng work on the plasmoid 
 experiments.
 
 https://web.stanford.edu/~ ajlucas/Evanescent%20Waves.pdf 
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Evanescent_field
 
 On 10/23/2018 7:37 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
 >  Zenneck or Evenescent wave
 
   
 
     
   
 
  

       
  

   

   
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Hi Warren,

I think you may be a bit disappointed by the stand alone version as it
runs at a much lower frequency due to being designed for a much lower
impedance coil, a few turns air core.  The induction cooker coils have
ferrite ribs and are actually a pretty high Q.  I measured a Q of 200 at
100kHz and a self resonance somewhere around 1mHz, I forget but have it
written down, therefore the induction hobs are likely around 1mHz
also..  The Q was sharp enough at it's resonant frequency that I could
vary 1 Hz and see a diff.   The stand alone was under 30kHz with a
regular cooking burner coil on it, closer to 20k if memory serves.  With
the China stand alone I have not bothered changing the inductors or caps
to smaller sizes as all this Chinese crap has the lead free solder that
requires way too much heat.  Kind of like silver brazing copper one has
to know their game or the copper burns, with this shit solder the PCB
burns easily.  Was difficult enough changing FET's I burnt up.

Nice work you are accomplishing, becoming a stone mason and restoration
expert.  Hope you have a place to work before winter comes charging in
up there.


On 10/27/2018 4:47 AM, Warren Keillor [email protected]
[EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> Mick
>
> Those guys are fantastic!
> Yes, it is everything needed to be able to keep control of the cooker.
> I do wonder, though, if I am technically up to their capability with
> pin outs and all, since they seem to have a deep down, and dirty,
> grasp of the cooker guts.
> However, they are on to it, and I am thrilled.
> That was a very nifty result I was getting, using that Tesla pancake
> to drive the 3hp dc motor like a Dremel tool, until the stove thought
> I was a child fooling with the cooker, and shut down on my shenanigans.
> Mine is a cheap Walmart hot plate type, that sounds similar.
> I bought a Chinese 12 volt dc unit, a furnace, that I had yet to try
> before this moving nonsense.
> I don't think it needs more than hooking up to 12 volts dc, but didn't
> even get a chance to check it out before the moving trucks came.
> It has arrived here ok, and at least was put in the house, rather than
> some leaky out building, like some of the gear.
> Thank you for the reminder, with that great bunch of geeks at work
> They are amazing!
> We have lots of work to do!
> Cheers Warren
>
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>
>     On Fri, 26 Oct 2018 at 8:47 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]
>     <[email protected]> wrote:
>      
>
>     Warren,
>
>     I found this for you, maybe you can look inside your induction
>     cooker and see if this matches up to proceed with a lobotomy. 
>     Don't forget to discharge the caps, those little poly suckers can
>     hold a charge for days.
>
>     http://openschemes.com/2011/04/28/manual-control-of-the-1-8kw-induction-cooktop/
>
>
>     On 10/26/2018 5:27 PM, Warren Keillor
>     [email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>      
>>
>>     Hi Jim
>>
>>     Yes I have a big Bedini wheel, capable of mounting 18 coils on
>>     the 48" diameter 3/8" plexiglas disc mounting platform.
>>     It also has a 5/16" drive shaft to mount accessories, should that
>>     come to mind.
>>     Cheers Warren
>>
>>     Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
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>>
>>         On Fri, 26 Oct 2018 at 2:22 PM, James Glinski
>>         [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
>>         <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>          
>>
>>         Warren I thought of you because you have a functioning Bedini
>>         wheel .I was reviewing some Bedini DVDs and remembered he
>>         said that he was running his units on moon light .well
>>         remember the old oil lamps of the 1800 ,s what if you could
>>         find the right light like a LED and put a solar panel behind
>>         it on the wall .if the moon can run the units.. a light
>>         should do better .and he said that the magneto effect was the
>>         real power of the unit and is generally disconnected from the
>>         power source in that there's a sweet spot and adding more
>>         power doesn't increase the scalar out put .he said some of
>>         his units were 18 times OU .so if the right combination could
>>         be found you would have permit light and recharge day and
>>         night .your yacht could have its own sun regardless of the
>>         time or weather and be fully lite up constantly .the mono
>>         plasma solar cells would be best for this .a looper ? Mine is
>>         in parts right now .also you might use a florescent four foot
>>         tube and run it on a small flyback transformer .it's plasma
>>         and the light off of it would be combined with the EMF coming
>>         off the plasma to the panel to help charge .and old flyback
>>         just whine wires around the exposed core and put a diode to
>>         that and plug into a varac and slowly ajust to brightness
>>         ..they run on 700 volts but 25,000 would really run it . just
>>         a thought .jim PS he said Watson's unit would turn on only
>>         occasionally due to that big fly wheel meaning it was running
>>         on the magneto effect with out power that's why it was so OU
>>         .absorbing the pluse kick energy and just running on that
>>         .next up grade is a big flywheel .on that I was thinking
>>         concrete might work well heavy pourable long lasting .? Jim out 
>>
>>
>>
>>         On Friday, October 26, 2018, Dave Muckerman [email protected]
>>         <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]
>>         <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>              
>>             Warren good point, about the eddy current.
>>
>>             Oh way back you wrote about grounding a solar system....
>>             I like to keep mine floating but have ground wire
>>             surrounding panels to collect static.
>>             My home wiring is left as is with neutral grounded at
>>             many points through appliances..
>>             I found it impossible to get it all floating.
>>             I recommend using a isolation Tx on your inverter to home
>>             wiring so you inverter and batterys won't become hot!
>>             My cable internet uses a ground and needs 12 volts DC for
>>             the modem from my solar DC and caused havoc without the
>>             isolation.
>>
>>
>>             On Thursday, October 25, 2018 10:49 AM, "Warren Keillor
>>             [email protected]
>>             <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]"
>>             <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>             wrote:
>>
>>
>>              
>>             Dave
>>             The eddy currents in a brass core will get it hot, I
>>             would expect.
>>             Cheers Warren
>>
>>             Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>             <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>>
>>                 On Thu, 25 Oct 2018 at 11:09 AM, Dave Muckerman
>>                 [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
>>                 <[email protected]
>>                 <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>                  
>>                 Does anyone not know using brass instead of iron in a
>>                 core will make any coil less inductive than no core
>>                 or air?
>>                 Wonder if anything good could result?
>>
>>                 air coils don't saturate right?
>>
>>
>>                 On Thursday, October 25, 2018 8:03 AM, "Norman Wootan
>>                 [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]"
>>                 <[email protected]
>>                 <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>                  
>>                 James!   During my many years of hands on Electrical
>>                 Contracting and Researching electrical phenomenon, my
>>                 first real brush with the Neutral Spike was while
>>                 designing small electric motors in 1981. This was a
>>                 tall stack shaded pole motor that was designed to be
>>                 reversible by switching the position (electrically)
>>                 of the capacitor in series with the start windings
>>                 via double pole/ double throw reversing switch.  
>>                 This new prototype motor was MFG in Chine and test
>>                 samples were shipped to me for QC testing. 
>>                 Destructive testing included the reversal of the
>>                 motor while running full speed forward via switching
>>                 the reversal switch! When switched the double throw
>>                 switch literally exploded with a loud WOOOMP! and a
>>                 bright green flash. (vaporized copper). I had a
>>                 double EE Professor from UT Arlington come over and
>>                 observe the phenomenon. since the whole 1/6th HP
>>                 motor was being run off 18ga. zip cord with earth
>>                 bond ground wire to motor frame, it was quit bizarre
>>                 to see a 30 amp rated switch just explode. His
>>                 calculations could not explain where the burst of
>>                 energy came from. After welding the contacts of
>>                 several heavy duty reversing contactors and
>>                 examination of the original motor schematic with the
>>                 wiring as received from China ,I found that the
>>                 little lady in tennis shoes (assembly line Chinese
>>                 lady) had placed the reversing circuit and switch on
>>                 the neutral side of the line input. In effect (when
>>                 in transit) the entire motor electric circuitry was
>>                 in an isolated state (floating neutral) condition
>>                 which is a great big NO, NO, This set up the perfect
>>                 scenario for the neutral spike from earth ground to
>>                 occur.  I have written all this up several times
>>                 before for this EVGRAY site. Most people do not
>>                 understand how shaded pole motors work much less how
>>                 you reverse their rotation. You have to reverse the
>>                 rotating magnet field by phase angle 90 degree
>>                 leading or 90 degree lagging (start windings)
>>                 relative to the main run windings. See:
>>                 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/ wiki/Shaded-pole_motor
>>                 <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaded-pole_motor>
>>                 https://woodgears.ca/motors/ reversing.html
>>                 <https://woodgears.ca/motors/reversing.html>
>>
>>                 On 10/24/2018 10:10 PM, James Glinski
>>                 [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>                 [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>                  
>>>                 Just my opinion but that looper might be a version
>>>                 of the pulse led out research .a Chinese guy mad a
>>>                 wheel and found that if you pulsed once you get
>>>                 three back .the heavy fly wheel would absorb the 
>>>                 kinetic energy from the pluse and run the DC
>>>                 generator .the board would control the pulse timing
>>>                 .a1000 watt pulse would return 3000 watts in kinetic
>>>                 energy .spread that energy around the pancake motor
>>>                 coils to reduce general over loading of a single
>>>                 .point .but the Chinese version doesn't use iron
>>>                 cores .this is a lot like bedini's first self runner
>>>                 but he adjusted it for one battery .and ran for 15
>>>                 years .what if he adjusted it for ten ?
>>
>>                 https://www.johnsonelectric. com/en/resources-for-
>>                 engineers/ac-motors/principle- of-operation
>>                 <https://www.johnsonelectric.com/en/resources-for-engineers/ac-motors/principle-of-operation>
>>
>>
>>
>>>                 On Oct 24, 2018 3:35 PM, "Mick [email protected]
>>>                 <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]"
>>>                 <[email protected]
>>>                 <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>
>>>                      
>>>                     Norm,
>>>                     How many different setups did you use in your
>>>                     formal investigation of the neutral spike,  I
>>>                     know about the locked rotor motor but were there
>>>                     others?
>>>                     There seems to be some crossover with Don Smiths
>>>                     claims of aluminum and copper used as opposing
>>>                     capacitor plates and the work of the builder of
>>>                     the Swiss Testatika machine.
>>>                     What if any interesting observations have you
>>>                     made in re to the copper/aluminum function?
>>>
>>>                     On 10/24/2018 12:13 PM, Norman Wootan
>>>                     [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>                     [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>                      
>>>>                     Mick! I was the first on this site to bring up
>>>>                     the Evenescent wave &
>>>>                     critical angle for it was in my research on a
>>>>                     zero loss solar heat
>>>>                     collector.     This tied in directly to MBKIng
>>>>                     work on the plasmoid
>>>>                     experiments.
>>>>
>>>>                     https://web.stanford.edu/~
>>>>                     ajlucas/Evanescent%20Waves.pdf
>>>>                     <https://web.stanford.edu/%7Eajlucas/Evanescent%20Waves.pdf>
>>>>
>>>>                     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Evanescent_field
>>>>                     <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evanescent_field>
>>>>
>>>>                     On 10/23/2018 7:37 PM, Mick [email protected]
>>>>                     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>                     >  Zenneck or Evenescent wave
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

MickThose guys are fantastic!Yes, it is everything needed to be able to keep control of the cooker.I do wonder, though, if I am technically up to their capability with pin outs and all, since they seem to have a deep down, and dirty, grasp of the cooker guts.However, they are on to it, and I am thrilled.That was a very nifty result I was getting, using that Tesla pancake to drive the 3hp dc motor like a Dremel tool, until the stove thought I was a child fooling with the cooker, and shut down on my shenanigans.Mine is a cheap Walmart hot plate type, that sounds similar.I bought a Chinese 12 volt dc unit, a furnace, that I had yet to try before this moving nonsense.I don't think it needs more than hooking up to 12 volts dc, but didn't even get a chance to check it out before the moving trucks came.It has arrived here ok, and at least was put in the house, rather than some leaky out building, like some of the gear.Thank you for the reminder, with that great bunch of geeks at workThey are amazing!We have lots of work to do!Cheers Warren

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  On Fri, 26 Oct 2018 at 8:47 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
 

Warren,
 
I found this for you, maybe you can look inside your induction cooker and see if this matches up to proceed with a lobotomy.  Don't forget to discharge the caps, those little poly suckers can hold a charge for days.
 
http://openschemes.com/2011/04/28/manual-control-of-the-1-8kw-induction-cooktop/
 
 
 On 10/26/2018 5:27 PM, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
Hi Jim
 Yes I have a big Bedini wheel, capable of mounting 18 coils on the 48" diameter 3/8" plexiglas disc mounting platform. It also has a 5/16" drive shaft to mount accessories, should that come to mind. Cheers Warren
 
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  On Fri, 26 Oct 2018 at 2:22 PM, James Glinski [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:          
Warren I thought of you because you have a functioning Bedini wheel .I was reviewing some Bedini DVDs and remembered he said that he was running his units on moon light .well remember the old oil lamps of the 1800 ,s what if you could find the right light like a LED and put a solar panel behind it on the wall .if the moon can run the units.. a light should do better .and he said that the magneto effect was the real power of the unit and  is generally disconnected from the power source in that there's a sweet spot and adding more power doesn't increase the scalar out put .he said some of his units were 18 times OU .so if the right combination could be found you would have permit light and recharge day and night .your yacht could have its own sun regardless of the time or weather and be fully lite up constantly .the mono plasma solar cells would be best for this .a  looper ? Mine is in parts right now .also you might use a florescent four foot tube and run it on a small flyback transformer .it's plasma and the light off of it would be combined with the EMF coming off the plasma to the panel to help charge .and old flyback just whine wires around the exposed core and put a diode to that and plug into a varac and slowly ajust to brightness ..they run on 700 volts but 25,000 would really run it . just a  thought .jim PS he said Watson's unit would turn on only occasionally due to that big fly wheel meaning it was running on the magneto effect with out power that's why it was so OU .absorbing the pluse kick energy and just running on that .next up grade is a big flywheel .on that I was thinking concrete might work well heavy pourable long lasting .? Jim out 
 
  
 On Friday, October 26, 2018, Dave Muckerman [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:
 
        Warren good point, about the eddy current. 
  Oh way back you wrote about grounding a solar system.... I like to keep mine floating but have ground wire surrounding panels to collect static. My home wiring is left as is with neutral grounded at many points through appliances.. I found it impossible to get it all floating. I recommend using a isolation Tx on your inverter to home wiring so you inverter and batterys won't become hot!
  My cable internet uses a ground and needs 12 volts DC for the modem from my solar DC and caused havoc without the isolation. 
 
      On Thursday, October 25, 2018 10:49 AM, "Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
  
 
         Dave The eddy currents in a brass core will get it hot, I would expect. Cheers Warren
 
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  On Thu, 25 Oct 2018 at 11:09 AM, Dave Muckerman [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:           Does anyone not know using brass instead of iron in a core will make  any coil less inductive than no core or air? Wonder if anything good could result? 
  air coils don't saturate right? 
 
      On Thursday, October 25, 2018 8:03 AM, "Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
  
 
           James!   During my many years of hands on Electrical Contracting and  Researching electrical phenomenon, my first real brush with the  Neutral Spike was while designing small electric motors in 1981. This was  a tall stack shaded pole motor that was designed to be reversible by  switching the position (electrically) of the capacitor in series with the start windings via double pole/ double throw reversing  switch.   This new prototype motor was MFG in Chine and test samples were shipped  to me for QC testing.  Destructive testing included the reversal of the motor  while running full speed forward via switching the reversal switch! When switched the double throw switch literally exploded with  a loud WOOOMP! and a bright green flash. (vaporized copper). I had  a double EE Professor from UT Arlington come over and observe the phenomenon.  since the whole 1/6th HP motor was being run off 18ga. zip cord  with earth bond ground wire to motor frame, it was quit bizarre  to see a 30 amp rated switch just explode. His calculations could not  explain where the burst of energy came from. After welding the  contacts of several heavy duty reversing contactors and examination of the original motor schematic with the wiring as received from China ,I found  that the little lady in tennis shoes (assembly line Chinese lady)  had placed the reversing circuit and switch on the neutral side of the line input. In effect (when in transit) the entire motor electric  circuitry was in an isolated state (floating neutral) condition which is a great big NO, NO, This set up the perfect scenario for  the neutral spike from earth ground to occur.  I have written all this up several times before for this EVGRAY  site. Most people do not understand how shaded pole motors work  much less how you reverse their rotation. You have to reverse the  rotating magnet field by phase angle 90 degree leading or 90  degree lagging (start windings) relative to the main run windings. See: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaded-pole_motor https://woodgears.ca/motors/ reversing.html  
 On 10/24/2018 10:10 PM, James Glinski [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    Just my opinion but that looper might be a version of the pulse led out  research .a Chinese guy mad a wheel and found that if you pulsed  once you get three back .the heavy fly wheel would absorb the  kinetic energy from the pluse and run the DC generator .the board would  control the pulse timing .a1000 watt pulse would return 3000  watts in kinetic energy .spread that energy around the pancake motor coils to reduce general over loading of a single .point .but the Chinese  version doesn't use iron cores .this is a lot like bedini's  first self runner but he adjusted it for one battery .and ran for 15  years .what if he adjusted it for ten ?   
 
 https://www.johnsonelectric. com/en/resources-for-engineers/ac-motors/principle- of-operation
 
 
 
 
    On Oct 24, 2018 3:35 PM, "Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
 
         Norm, How many different setups did you use in your formal investigation  of the neutral spike,  I know about the locked rotor motor but were there others?
  There seems to be some crossover with Don Smiths claims of aluminum  and copper used as opposing capacitor plates and the work of the builder of the Swiss Testatika machine.
 What if any interesting observations have you made in re to the  copper/aluminum function?
  
 On 10/24/2018 12:13 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    Mick! I was the first on this site to bring up the Evenescent wave & 
 critical angle for it was in my research on a zero loss solar heat 
 collector.     This tied in directly to MBKIng work on the plasmoid 
 experiments.
 
 https://web.stanford.edu/~ajlucas/Evanescent%20Waves.pdf 
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evanescent_field
 
 On 10/23/2018 7:37 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
 >  Zenneck or Evenescent wave
 
   
 
     
     
 
     
 
             
      
 
            
        
   
 
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Warren,

Yes pro audio work among other things. Of course I have. Audio feedback
is the externally excited self resonance of the microphone diaphragm
coupling with a speaker through air excited (tickled) by an amplifier
also know as positive feedback. So to answer your question a bit of both
as the microphone diaphragm is excited to move in it's most sensitive
(resonant) micro mode . When designing high gain preamps we often have
to wrap negative feedback around them. The output fed to the input 180
degrees out of phase to eliminate oscillation due to gain stages going
into resonance from positive feedback.

I have not had much of a problem exciting a tank circuit into
resonance.  The higher the Q the less external excitement required. 
Also the higher the Q the more sensitive the system is to changes and
being thrown out of resonance as the bandwidth notch gets more narrow. 
Hence Hector's advice for one to throw the system into resonance at a
lower frequency and collect at a higher harmonic.  Also the lower the
frequency the lower the poss Q and energy density so it's a balancing
act like virtually all electronic design.

Super high Q circuits such as super regenerative receivers use multiple
stages in order to sharpen the bandwidth.  In crossover design we spec
bandwidth filters as roll off of so many dB per octave, a single pole LC
tank is 6dB double pole 12, triple pole 24 and so on.

There is the Em field which is easy to resonate then the NMR or EMR
field having to do with particle spin or Larmour precesion which is a
whole another enchalada.  This can be tickled or forced, I always prefer
finesse over force.  This is a Pandoras box of energy potential and iron
is a prime candidate for tickling.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larmor_precession

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/Nuclear/larmor.html

One can also throw time into the picture if one is of the belief that
the flyback is a time reversed modality, such as the looping OU systems
Hector brings up where there is a positive feedback loop amplifying an
oscillation of negative energy.  Think about the negative energy being
killed from the positive either by less or more.  Since we are moving
forward in time in this dimension all our systems quickly dissipate
negative energy.  How to create a system which makes the most
negatricity and dissipates the least.  Back to stages and harmonics!

I believe the flyback pulse is a partial negative time domain.  Richard
Feynman said a positron is an electron traveling backwards in time.  I
think he proved this mathematically and was nominated or received a
highbrow prize.

Put all three systems together and a monster can be created.

You wanted the abstract so I suggest you read the above several times
and you may get that aha light bulb moment and come up with something we
can all benefit from.


On 10/27/2018 4:26 PM, Warren Keillor [email protected]
[EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> Mick
>
> Self resonance, a perfectly tickled LC circuit, living off the avails
> of high Q.
> Now there seems to a beastly amount of energy when feed chopped DC
> into an inductor from"back EMF" coming out of the coils of the
> transformer, when the circuit is opened. Fast diodes, and the right
> value capacitor, and resonance, what could be better!
> Oh, maybe getting resonance is not quite so simple?
> You are an audio guy, right?
> Somewhere in your career, you must have had feedback screaming through
> speakers?
> Is that resonance, or self oscillation?
> I know it is low frequency, but I just am trying to get my mind around
> an abstract topic, and possible useful tool, in our quest.
> Cheers Warren
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>     On Sat, 27 Oct 2018 at 12:10 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]
>     <[email protected]> wrote:
>      
>
>     Hi Warren,
>
>     I think you may be a bit disappointed by the stand alone version
>     as it runs at a much lower frequency due to being designed for a
>     much lower impedance coil, a few turns air core.  The induction
>     cooker coils have ferrite ribs and are actually a pretty high Q. 
>     I measured a Q of 200 at 100kHz and a self resonance somewhere
>     around 1mHz, I forget but have it written down, therefore the
>     induction hobs are likely around 1mHz also..  The Q was sharp
>     enough at it's resonant frequency that I could vary 1 Hz and see a
>     diff.   The stand alone was under 30kHz with a regular cooking
>     burner coil on it, closer to 20k if memory serves.  With the China
>     stand alone I have not bothered changing the inductors or caps to
>     smaller sizes as all this Chinese crap has the lead free solder
>     that requires way too much heat.  Kind of like silver brazing
>     copper one has to know their game or the copper burns, with this
>     shit solder the PCB burns easily.  Was difficult enough changing
>     FET's I burnt up.
>
>     Nice work you are accomplishing, becoming a stone mason and
>     restoration expert.  Hope you have a place to work before winter
>     comes charging in up there.
>
>
>     On 10/27/2018 4:47 AM, Warren Keillor
>     [email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>      
>>
>>     Mick
>>
>>     Those guys are fantastic!
>>     Yes, it is everything needed to be able to keep control of the
>>     cooker.
>>     I do wonder, though, if I am technically up to their capability
>>     with pin outs and all, since they seem to have a deep down, and
>>     dirty, grasp of the cooker guts.
>>     However, they are on to it, and I am thrilled.
>>     That was a very nifty result I was getting, using that Tesla
>>     pancake to drive the 3hp dc motor like a Dremel tool, until the
>>     stove thought I was a child fooling with the cooker, and shut
>>     down on my shenanigans.
>>     Mine is a cheap Walmart hot plate type, that sounds similar.
>>     I bought a Chinese 12 volt dc unit, a furnace, that I had yet to
>>     try before this moving nonsense.
>>     I don't think it needs more than hooking up to 12 volts dc, but
>>     didn't even get a chance to check it out before the moving trucks
>>     came.
>>     It has arrived here ok, and at least was put in the house, rather
>>     than some leaky out building, like some of the gear.
>>     Thank you for the reminder, with that great bunch of geeks at work
>>     They are amazing!
>>     We have lots of work to do!
>>     Cheers Warren
>>
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>>
>>         On Fri, 26 Oct 2018 at 8:47 PM, Mick [email protected]
>>         <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
>>         <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>          
>>
>>         Warren,
>>
>>         I found this for you, maybe you can look inside your
>>         induction cooker and see if this matches up to proceed with a
>>         lobotomy.  Don't forget to discharge the caps, those little
>>         poly suckers can hold a charge for days.
>>
>>         http://openschemes.com/2011/04/28/manual-control-of-the-1-8kw-induction-cooktop/
>>
>>
>>         On 10/26/2018 5:27 PM, Warren Keillor
>>         [email protected]
>>         <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>          
>>>
>>>         Hi Jim
>>>
>>>         Yes I have a big Bedini wheel, capable of mounting 18 coils
>>>         on the 48" diameter 3/8" plexiglas disc mounting platform.
>>>         It also has a 5/16" drive shaft to mount accessories, should
>>>         that come to mind.
>>>         Cheers Warren
>>>
>>>         Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

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>>>
>>>             On Fri, 26 Oct 2018 at 2:22 PM, James Glinski
>>>             [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
>>>             <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>             wrote:
>>>              
>>>
>>>             Warren I thought of you because you have a functioning
>>>             Bedini wheel .I was reviewing some Bedini DVDs and
>>>             remembered he said that he was running his units on moon
>>>             light .well remember the old oil lamps of the 1800 ,s
>>>             what if you could find the right light like a LED and
>>>             put a solar panel behind it on the wall .if the moon can
>>>             run the units.. a light should do better .and he said
>>>             that the magneto effect was the real power of the unit
>>>             and is generally disconnected from the power source in
>>>             that there's a sweet spot and adding more power doesn't
>>>             increase the scalar out put .he said some of his units
>>>             were 18 times OU .so if the right combination could be
>>>             found you would have permit light and recharge day and
>>>             night .your yacht could have its own sun regardless of
>>>             the time or weather and be fully lite up constantly .the
>>>             mono plasma solar cells would be best for this .a looper
>>>             ? Mine is in parts right now .also you might use a
>>>             florescent four foot tube and run it on a small flyback
>>>             transformer .it's plasma and the light off of it would
>>>             be combined with the EMF coming off the plasma to the
>>>             panel to help charge .and old flyback just whine wires
>>>             around the exposed core and put a diode to that and plug
>>>             into a varac and slowly ajust to brightness ..they run
>>>             on 700 volts but 25,000 would really run it . just a
>>>             thought .jim PS he said Watson's unit would turn on only
>>>             occasionally due to that big fly wheel meaning it was
>>>             running on the magneto effect with out power that's why
>>>             it was so OU .absorbing the pluse kick energy and just
>>>             running on that .next up grade is a big flywheel .on
>>>             that I was thinking concrete might work well heavy
>>>             pourable long lasting .? Jim out 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>             On Friday, October 26, 2018, Dave Muckerman
>>>             [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
>>>             <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>             wrote:
>>>
>>>                  
>>>                 Warren good point, about the eddy current.
>>>
>>>                 Oh way back you wrote about grounding a solar system....
>>>                 I like to keep mine floating but have ground wire
>>>                 surrounding panels to collect static.
>>>                 My home wiring is left as is with neutral grounded
>>>                 at many points through appliances..
>>>                 I found it impossible to get it all floating.
>>>                 I recommend using a isolation Tx on your inverter to
>>>                 home wiring so you inverter and batterys won't
>>>                 become hot!
>>>                 My cable internet uses a ground and needs 12 volts
>>>                 DC for the modem from my solar DC and caused havoc
>>>                 without the isolation.
>>>
>>>
>>>                 On Thursday, October 25, 2018 10:49 AM, "Warren
>>>                 Keillor [email protected]
>>>                 <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]"
>>>                 <[email protected]
>>>                 <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>                  
>>>                 Dave
>>>                 The eddy currents in a brass core will get it hot, I
>>>                 would expect.
>>>                 Cheers Warren
>>>
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>>>
>>>                     On Thu, 25 Oct 2018 at 11:09 AM, Dave Muckerman
>>>                     [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>                     [EVGRAY]
>>>                     <[email protected]
>>>                     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>                      
>>>                     Does anyone not know using brass instead of iron
>>>                     in a core will make any coil less inductive than
>>>                     no core or air?
>>>                     Wonder if anything good could result?
>>>
>>>                     air coils don't saturate right?
>>>
>>>
>>>                     On Thursday, October 25, 2018 8:03 AM, "Norman
>>>                     Wootan [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>                     [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]
>>>                     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>                      
>>>                     James!   During my many years of hands on
>>>                     Electrical Contracting and Researching
>>>                     electrical phenomenon, my first real brush with
>>>                     the Neutral Spike was while designing small
>>>                     electric motors in 1981. This was a tall stack
>>>                     shaded pole motor that was designed to be
>>>                     reversible by switching the position
>>>                     (electrically) of the capacitor in series with
>>>                     the start windings via double pole/ double throw
>>>                     reversing switch.   This new prototype motor was
>>>                     MFG in Chine and test samples were shipped to me
>>>                     for QC testing.  Destructive testing included
>>>                     the reversal of the motor while running full
>>>                     speed forward via switching the reversal switch!
>>>                     When switched the double throw switch literally
>>>                     exploded with a loud WOOOMP! and a bright green
>>>                     flash. (vaporized copper). I had a double EE
>>>                     Professor from UT Arlington come over and
>>>                     observe the phenomenon. since the whole 1/6th HP
>>>                     motor was being run off 18ga. zip cord with
>>>                     earth bond ground wire to motor frame, it was
>>>                     quit bizarre to see a 30 amp rated switch just
>>>                     explode. His calculations could not explain
>>>                     where the burst of energy came from. After
>>>                     welding the contacts of several heavy duty
>>>                     reversing contactors and examination of the
>>>                     original motor schematic with the wiring as
>>>                     received from China ,I found that the little
>>>                     lady in tennis shoes (assembly line Chinese
>>>                     lady) had placed the reversing circuit and
>>>                     switch on the neutral side of the line input. In
>>>                     effect (when in transit) the entire motor
>>>                     electric circuitry was in an isolated state
>>>                     (floating neutral) condition which is a great
>>>                     big NO, NO, This set up the perfect scenario for
>>>                     the neutral spike from earth ground to occur.  I
>>>                     have written all this up several times before
>>>                     for this EVGRAY site. Most people do not
>>>                     understand how shaded pole motors work much less
>>>                     how you reverse their rotation. You have to
>>>                     reverse the rotating magnet field by phase angle
>>>                     90 degree leading or 90 degree lagging (start
>>>                     windings) relative to the main run windings. See:
>>>                     https://en.m.wikipedia.org/
>>>                     wiki/Shaded-pole_motor
>>>                     <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaded-pole_motor>
>>>                     https://woodgears.ca/motors/ reversing.html
>>>                     <https://woodgears.ca/motors/reversing.html>
>>>
>>>                     On 10/24/2018 10:10 PM, James Glinski
>>>                     [email protected]
>>>                     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>                      
>>>>                     Just my opinion but that looper might be a
>>>>                     version of the pulse led out research .a
>>>>                     Chinese guy mad a wheel and found that if you
>>>>                     pulsed once you get three back .the heavy fly
>>>>                     wheel would absorb the  kinetic energy from the
>>>>                     pluse and run the DC generator .the board would
>>>>                     control the pulse timing .a1000 watt pulse
>>>>                     would return 3000 watts in kinetic energy
>>>>                     .spread that energy around the pancake motor
>>>>                     coils to reduce general over loading of a
>>>>                     single .point .but the Chinese version doesn't
>>>>                     use iron cores .this is a lot like bedini's
>>>>                     first self runner but he adjusted it for one
>>>>                     battery .and ran for 15 years .what if he
>>>>                     adjusted it for ten ?
>>>
>>>                     https://www.johnsonelectric.
>>>                     com/en/resources-for-
>>>                     engineers/ac-motors/principle- of-operation
>>>                     <https://www.johnsonelectric.com/en/resources-for-engineers/ac-motors/principle-of-operation>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>                     On Oct 24, 2018 3:35 PM, "Mick
>>>>                     [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>                     [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]
>>>>                     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>                          
>>>>                         Norm,
>>>>                         How many different setups did you use in
>>>>                         your formal investigation of the neutral
>>>>                         spike,  I know about the locked rotor motor
>>>>                         but were there others?
>>>>                         There seems to be some crossover with Don
>>>>                         Smiths claims of aluminum and copper used
>>>>                         as opposing capacitor plates and the work
>>>>                         of the builder of the Swiss Testatika machine.
>>>>                         What if any interesting observations have
>>>>                         you made in re to the copper/aluminum function?
>>>>
>>>>                         On 10/24/2018 12:13 PM, Norman Wootan
>>>>                         [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>                         [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>                          
>>>>>                         Mick! I was the first on this site to
>>>>>                         bring up the Evenescent wave &
>>>>>                         critical angle for it was in my research
>>>>>                         on a zero loss solar heat
>>>>>                         collector.     This tied in directly to
>>>>>                         MBKIng work on the plasmoid
>>>>>                         experiments.
>>>>>
>>>>>                         https://web.stanford.edu/~
>>>>>                         ajlucas/Evanescent%20Waves.pdf
>>>>>                         <https://web.stanford.edu/%7Eajlucas/Evanescent%20Waves.pdf>
>>>>>
>>>>>                         https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
>>>>>                         Evanescent_field
>>>>>                         <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evanescent_field>
>>>>>
>>>>>                         On 10/23/2018 7:37 PM, Mick
>>>>>                         [email protected]
>>>>>                         <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>                         >  Zenneck or Evenescent wave
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

MickSelf resonance, a perfectly tickled LC circuit, living off the avails of high Q.Now there seems to a beastly amount of energy when feed chopped DC into an inductor from"back EMF" coming out of the coils of the transformer, when the circuit is opened. Fast diodes, and the right value capacitor, and resonance, what could be better!
Oh, maybe getting resonance is not quite so simple?You are an audio guy, right?Somewhere in your career, you must have had feedback screaming through speakers?Is that resonance, or self oscillation?I know it is low frequency, but I just am trying to get my mind around an abstract topic, and possible useful tool, in our quest.Cheers Warren
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  On Sat, 27 Oct 2018 at 12:10 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
 

Hi Warren,
 
I think you may be a bit disappointed by the stand alone version as it runs at a much lower frequency due to being designed for a much lower impedance coil, a few turns air core.  The induction cooker coils have ferrite ribs and are actually a pretty high Q.  I measured a Q of 200 at 100kHz and a self resonance somewhere around 1mHz, I forget but have it written down, therefore the induction hobs are likely around 1mHz also..  The Q was sharp enough at it's resonant frequency that I could vary 1 Hz and see a diff.   The stand alone was under 30kHz with a regular cooking burner coil on it, closer to 20k if memory serves.  With the China stand alone I have not bothered changing the inductors or caps to smaller sizes as all this Chinese crap has the lead free solder that requires way too much heat.  Kind of like silver brazing copper one has to know their game or the copper burns, with this shit solder the PCB burns easily.  Was difficult enough changing FET's I burnt up.
 
Nice work you are accomplishing, becoming a stone mason and restoration expert.  Hope you have a place to work before winter comes charging in up there.
 
 
 On 10/27/2018 4:47 AM, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
Mick
 Those guys are fantastic! Yes, it is everything needed to be able to keep control of the cooker. I do wonder, though, if I am technically up to their capability with pin outs and all, since they seem to have a deep down, and dirty, grasp of the cooker guts. However, they are on to it, and I am thrilled. That was a very nifty result I was getting, using that Tesla pancake to drive the 3hp dc motor like a Dremel tool, until the stove thought I was a child fooling with the cooker, and shut down on my shenanigans. Mine is a cheap Walmart hot plate type, that sounds similar. I bought a Chinese 12 volt dc unit, a furnace, that I had yet to try before this moving nonsense. I don't think it needs more than hooking up to 12 volts dc, but didn't even get a chance to check it out before the moving trucks came. It has arrived here ok, and at least was put in the house, rather than some leaky out building, like some of the gear. Thank you for the reminder, with that great bunch of geeks at work They are amazing! We have lots of work to do! Cheers Warren
 
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  On Fri, 26 Oct 2018 at 8:47 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:          
 
 
Warren,
 
I found this for you, maybe you can look inside your induction cooker and see if this matches up to proceed with a lobotomy.  Don't forget to discharge the caps, those little poly suckers can hold a charge for days.
 
 http://openschemes.com/2011/04/28/manual-control-of-the-1-8kw-induction-cooktop/
 
 
  On 10/26/2018 5:27 PM, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
Hi Jim
 Yes I have a big Bedini wheel, capable of mounting 18 coils on the 48" diameter 3/8" plexiglas disc mounting platform. It also has a 5/16" drive shaft to mount accessories, should that come to mind. Cheers Warren
 
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  On Fri, 26 Oct 2018 at 2:22 PM, James Glinski [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:          
Warren I thought of you because you have a functioning Bedini wheel .I was reviewing some Bedini DVDs and  remembered he said that he was running his units on moon light .well remember the old oil lamps of  the 1800 ,s what if you could find the right light like a LED and put a solar panel behind it on the wall .if the moon can run the units.. a light should do better .and he said that the magneto effect  was the real power of the unit and is generally disconnected from the power source in that there's a sweet spot and adding more power doesn't increase the scalar out put .he said some of his units  were 18 times OU .so if the right combination could be found you would have permit light and  recharge day and night .your yacht could have its own sun regardless of the time or weather and be fully lite up constantly .the mono plasma solar cells would be best for this .a looper ? Mine is in parts  right now .also you might use a florescent four foot tube and run it on a small flyback transformer .it's plasma and the light off of it would be combined with the EMF coming off the plasma to the panel  to help charge .and old flyback just whine wires around the exposed core and put a diode to that  and plug into a varac and slowly ajust to brightness ..they run on 700 volts but 25,000 would really run it . just a thought .jim PS he said Watson's unit would turn on only occasionally due to  that big fly wheel meaning it was running on the magneto effect with out power that's why it was so OU .absorbing the pluse kick energy and just running on that .next up grade is a big flywheel .on  that I was thinking concrete might work well heavy pourable long lasting .? Jim out 
 
  
 On Friday, October 26, 2018, Dave Muckerman [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:
 
        Warren good point, about the eddy current. 
  Oh way back you wrote about grounding a solar system.... I like to keep mine floating but have ground wire surrounding  panels to collect static. My home wiring is left as is with neutral grounded at many points  through appliances.. I found it impossible to get it all floating. I recommend using a isolation Tx on your inverter to  home wiring so you inverter and batterys won't become hot!
  My cable internet uses a ground and needs 12 volts DC for the modem from  my solar DC and caused havoc without the isolation. 
 
      On Thursday, October 25, 2018 10:49 AM, "Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
  
 
         Dave The eddy currents in a brass core will get it hot, I would expect. Cheers Warren
 
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  On Thu, 25 Oct 2018 at 11:09 AM, Dave Muckerman [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:           Does anyone not know using brass instead of iron in a core will make  any coil less inductive than no core or air? Wonder if anything good could result? 
  air coils don't saturate right? 
 
      On Thursday, October 25, 2018 8:03 AM, "Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
  
 
           James!   During my many years of hands on Electrical Contracting and  Researching electrical phenomenon, my first real brush with the  Neutral Spike was while designing small electric motors in 1981. This was  a tall stack shaded pole motor that was designed to be reversible by  switching the position (electrically) of the capacitor in series with the start windings via double pole/ double throw reversing  switch.   This new prototype motor was MFG in Chine and test samples were shipped  to me for QC testing.  Destructive testing included the reversal of the motor  while running full speed forward via switching the reversal switch! When switched the double throw switch literally exploded with  a loud WOOOMP! and a bright green flash. (vaporized copper). I had  a double EE Professor from UT Arlington come over and observe the phenomenon.  since the whole 1/6th HP motor was being run off 18ga. zip cord  with earth bond ground wire to motor frame, it was quit bizarre  to see a 30 amp rated switch just explode. His calculations could not  explain where the burst of energy came from. After welding the  contacts of several heavy duty reversing contactors and examination of the original motor schematic with the wiring as received from China ,I found  that the little lady in tennis shoes (assembly line Chinese lady)  had placed the reversing circuit and switch on the neutral side of the line input. In effect (when in transit) the entire motor electric  circuitry was in an isolated state (floating neutral) condition which is a great big NO, NO, This set up the perfect scenario for  the neutral spike from earth ground to occur.  I have written all this up several times before for this EVGRAY  site. Most people do not understand how shaded pole motors work  much less how you reverse their rotation. You have to reverse the  rotating magnet field by phase angle 90 degree leading or 90  degree lagging (start windings) relative to the main run windings. See: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaded-pole_motor https://woodgears.ca/motors/ reversing.html  
 On 10/24/2018 10:10 PM, James Glinski [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    Just my opinion but that looper might be a version of the pulse led out  research .a Chinese guy mad a wheel and found that if you pulsed  once you get three back .the heavy fly wheel would absorb the  kinetic energy from the pluse and run the DC generator .the board would  control the pulse timing .a1000 watt pulse would return 3000  watts in kinetic energy .spread that energy around the pancake motor coils to reduce general over loading of a single .point .but the Chinese  version doesn't use iron cores .this is a lot like bedini's  first self runner but he adjusted it for one battery .and ran for 15  years .what if he adjusted it for ten ?   
 
 https://www.johnsonelectric. com/en/resources-for-engineers/ac-motors/principle- of-operation
 
 
 
 
    On Oct 24, 2018 3:35 PM, "Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
 
         Norm, How many different setups did you use in your formal investigation  of the neutral spike,  I know about the locked rotor motor but were there others?
  There seems to be some crossover with Don Smiths claims of aluminum  and copper used as opposing capacitor plates and the work of the builder of the Swiss Testatika machine.
 What if any interesting observations have you made in re to the  copper/aluminum function?
  
 On 10/24/2018 12:13 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    Mick! I was the first on this site to bring up the Evenescent wave & 
 critical angle for it was in my research on a zero loss solar heat 
 collector.     This tied in directly to MBKIng work on the plasmoid 
 experiments.
 
 https://web.stanford.edu/~ajlucas/Evanescent%20Waves.pdf 
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evanescent_field
 
 On 10/23/2018 7:37 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
 >  Zenneck or Evenescent wave
 
   
 
     
     
 
     
 
             
      
 
            
        
   
  
       
   
 
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brass cores are used for microwaves and they have their specifics to it  ..

(H)

The wouxuns  KGUVD1P can open from 50 to 512 MHZ  yes full !  extra modifications are needed 
for better performance but its strange when you just push one frequency in and its stays tuned receiving at it ..

(H) 


 

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 I bought some Ebay Beofeng HTs before FCC screws with them.  5 and 8 watt , 2 and .7 meters bands with extra freq. beyond HAM.
 Only about 25 each. I always wanted a strong pair of walky talkys.
 I think there are easy to hack and use SDR tech

 

 Check out RF circulators, used to stop back reflections.
 A 3 port device with a load on one port to arrest offending power.
 They are a trip to figure out but I think they could be usefull in our OU work.
 They use a 2 magnets with ferrite surrounding a triangle of copper with each point being one port.
 


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   brass cores are used for microwaves and they have their specifics to it  ..

(H)

I bought some Ebay Beofeng HTs before FCC screws with them.  5 and 8 watt , 2 and .7 meters bands with extra freq. beyond HAM.Only about 25 each. I always wanted a strong pair of walky talkys.I think there are easy to hack and use SDR tech

Check out RF circulators, used to stop back reflections.A 3 port device with a load on one port to arrest offending power.They are a trip to figure out but I think they could be usefull in our OU work.They use a 2 magnets with ferrite surrounding a triangle of copper with each point being one port. 

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     brass cores are used for microwaves and they have their specifics to it  ..

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Warren, Make sure to use a stiff DC power supply on your Chinese, Royer type induction circuit or it will blow. 

    On Wednesday, October 31, 2018 12:09 AM, Dave Muckerman <[email protected]> wrote:
 

 I bought some Ebay Beofeng HTs before FCC screws with them.  5 and 8 watt , 2 and .7 meters bands with extra freq. beyond HAM.Only about 25 each. I always wanted a strong pair of walky talkys.I think there are easy to hack and use SDR tech

Check out RF circulators, used to stop back reflections.A 3 port device with a load on one port to arrest offending power.They are a trip to figure out but I think they could be usefull in our OU work.They use a 2 magnets with ferrite surrounding a triangle of copper with each point being one port. 

    On Tuesday, October 30, 2018 7:42 AM, "[email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
 

     brass cores are used for microwaves and they have their specifics to it  ..

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Dave What do you mean by a "stiff" power supply?Would two golf cart 6 volt batteries, in series, be considered "stiff" if needed?
The whole point about using the device is to attempt to obtain more output than input, by means of Tesla pancake coils, if, in fact, it is possible.My experiment with driving the three hp DC treadmill motor much like a Dremel tool, at screaming high speed, using a pancake coil made from tiny speaker wire on a cheap Walmart induction stove, until the stove shut down, makes me optimistic about this route to over unity.The stove top is OK to generate the frequency, but the software of the stove shuts it off, because some detection circuit thinks you are not frying eggs in a cast iron pan, like you should be. You are misbehaving, so it shuts off to avoid a law suit.I had hoped the Chinese induction furnace driver was naked of baby safety software, and would explode, and burn, rather than shutting down.Obviously, I would not wish to uselessly destroy a piece of apparatus, but want to be free of quirky software issues. Cheers Warren
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  On Wed, 31 Oct 2018 at 1:18 AM, Dave Muckerman [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       

Warren, Make sure to use a stiff DC power supply on your Chinese, Royer type induction circuit or it will blow. 

    On Wednesday, October 31, 2018 12:09 AM, Dave Muckerman <[email protected]> wrote:
 

 I bought some Ebay Beofeng HTs before FCC screws with them.  5 and 8 watt , 2 and .7 meters bands with extra freq. beyond HAM.Only about 25 each. I always wanted a strong pair of walky talkys.I think there are easy to hack and use SDR tech

Check out RF circulators, used to stop back reflections.A 3 port device with a load on one port to arrest offending power.They are a trip to figure out but I think they could be usefull in our OU work.They use a 2 magnets with ferrite surrounding a triangle of copper with each point being one port. 

    On Tuesday, October 30, 2018 7:42 AM, "[email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
 

     brass cores are used for microwaves and they have their specifics to it  ..

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Warren, powerfull. big battery is perfect.
A man on a video described how it makes the FETs blow because of weak drive.
I too have induction cooktop and the circuits are really ideal with little software control so just finfd out what the magnetic sensor does to prevent shut-down.No PLL used and the PF is 1 because no big DC filtering caps so output pulses follow line phase aptitude. only uses like 4 op amps and hard driving IGBT.It's a repeating one shot circuit actually.
Then determine the freq range that works then use caps or L adjustment to suit. I'v seen convincing video of OU on these IH cookers,Tesla pancake bifillar driving resistance load 1:3 gain in power.
 

    On Wednesday, October 31, 2018 2:21 AM, "Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
 

     Dave What do you mean by a "stiff" power supply?Would two golf cart 6 volt batteries, in series, be considered "stiff" if needed?
The whole point about using the device is to attempt to obtain more output than input, by means of Tesla pancake coils, if, in fact, it is possible.My experiment with driving the three hp DC treadmill motor much like a Dremel tool, at screaming high speed, using a pancake coil made from tiny speaker wire on a cheap Walmart induction stove, until the stove shut down, makes me optimistic about this route to over unity.The stove top is OK to generate the frequency, but the software of the stove shuts it off, because some detection circuit thinks you are not frying eggs in a cast iron pan, like you should be. You are misbehaving, so it shuts off to avoid a law suit.I had hoped the Chinese induction furnace driver was naked of baby safety software, and would explode, and burn, rather than shutting down.Obviously, I would not wish to uselessly destroy a piece of apparatus, but want to be free of quirky software issues. Cheers Warren
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  On Wed, 31 Oct 2018 at 1:18 AM, Dave Muckerman [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]>! ; wrote:       Warren, Make sure to use a stiff DC power supply on your Chinese, Royer type induction circuit or it will blow. 

    On Wednesday, October 31, 2018 12:09 AM, Dave Muckerman <[email protected]> wrote:
 

 I bought some Ebay Beofeng HTs before FCC screws with them.  5 and 8 watt , 2 and .7 meters bands with extra freq. beyond HAM.Only about 25 each. I always wanted a strong pair of walky talkys.I think there are easy to hack and use SDR tech

Check out RF circulators, used to stop back reflections.A 3 port device with a load on one port to arrest offending power.They are a trip to figure out but I think they could be usefull in our OU work.They use a 2 magnets with ferrite surrounding a triangle of copper with each point being one port. 

    On Tuesday, October 30, 2018 7:42 AM, "[email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
 

     brass cores are used for microwaves and they have their specifics to it  ..

(H)  

   

       
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Dave1.3 is over unity1,614 is Hector's RV that I tested using my Chinese WEG 3hp motors.These ideas may be useful as components, but we can do better
by making some useful combination, I think, of several techniques, each one helping the next over the hump of self running, and then harvesting surplus energy.Cheers Warren
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  On Wed, 31 Oct 2018 at 3:07 PM, Dave Muckerman [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       

Warren, powerfull. big battery is perfect.
A man on a video described how it makes the FETs blow because of weak drive.
I too have induction cooktop and the circuits are really ideal with little software control so just finfd out what the magnetic sensor does to prevent shut-down.No PLL used and the PF is 1 because no big DC filtering caps so output pulses follow line phase aptitude. only uses like 4 op amps and hard driving IGBT.It's a repeating one shot circuit actually.
Then determine the freq range that works then use caps or L adjustment to suit. I'v seen convincing video of OU on these IH cookers,Tesla pancake bifillar driving resistance load 1:3 gain in power.
 

    On Wednesday, October 31, 2018 2:21 AM, "Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
 

     Dave What do you mean by a "stiff" power supply?Would two golf cart 6 volt batteries, in series, be considered "stiff" if needed?
The whole point about using the device is to attempt to obtain more output than input, by means of Tesla pancake coils, if, in fact, it is possible.My experiment with driving the three hp DC treadmill motor much like a Dremel tool, at screaming high speed, using a pancake coil made from tiny speaker wire on a cheap Walmart induction stove, until the stove shut down, makes me optimistic about this route to over unity.The stove top is OK to generate the frequency, but the software of the stove shuts it off, because some detection circuit thinks you are not frying eggs in a cast iron pan, like you should be. You are misbehaving, so it shuts off to avoid a law suit.I had hoped the Chinese induction furnace driver was naked of baby safety software, and would explode, and burn, rather than shutting down.Obviously, I would not wish to uselessly destroy a piece of apparatus, but want to be free of quirky software issues. Cheers Warren
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  On Wed, 31 Oct 2018 at 1:18 AM, Dave Muckerman [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]>! ; wrote:       Warren, Make sure to use a stiff DC power supply on your Chinese, Royer type induction circuit or it will blow. 

    On Wednesday, October 31, 2018 12:09 AM, Dave Muckerman <[email protected]> wrote:
 

 I bought some Ebay Beofeng HTs before FCC screws with them.  5 and 8 watt , 2 and .7 meters bands with extra freq. beyond HAM.Only about 25 each. I always wanted a strong pair of walky talkys.I think there are easy to hack and use SDR tech

Check out RF circulators, used to stop back reflections.A 3 port device with a load on one port to arrest offending power.They are a trip to figure out but I think they could be usefull in our OU work.They use a 2 magnets with ferrite surrounding a triangle of copper with each point being one port. 

    On Tuesday, October 30, 2018 7:42 AM, "[email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
 

     brass cores are used for microwaves and they have their specifics to it  ..

(H)  

   

       
  

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Hector,Nice radio, did you modify Wouxun to get down to 50MHz?I think it's a older SDR radio and the new ones do cross band repeater and dual channel real monitor....
dg 

    On Wednesday, October 31, 2018 2:06 PM, Dave Muckerman <[email protected]> wrote:
 

 Warren, powerfull. big battery is perfect.
A man on a video described how it makes the FETs blow because of weak drive.
I too have induction cooktop and the circuits are really ideal with little software control so just finfd out what the magnetic sensor does to prevent shut-down.No PLL used and the PF is 1 because no big DC filtering caps so output pulses follow line phase aptitude. only uses like 4 op amps and hard driving IGBT.It's a repeating one shot circuit actually.
Then determine the freq range that works then use caps or L adjustment to suit. I'v seen convincing video of OU on these IH cookers,Tesla pancake bifillar driving resistance load 1:3 gain in power.
 

    On Wednesday, October 31, 2018 2:21 AM, "Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
 

     Dave What do you mean by a "stiff" power supply?Would two golf cart 6 volt batteries, in series, be considered "stiff" if needed?
The whole point about using the device is to attempt to obtain more output than input, by means of Tesla pancake coils, if, in fact, it is possible.My experiment with driving the three hp DC treadmill motor much like a Dremel tool, at screaming high speed, using a pancake coil made from tiny speaker wire on a cheap Walmart induction stove, until the stove shut down, makes me optimistic about this route to over unity.The stove top is OK to generate the frequency, but the software of the stove shuts it off, because some detection circuit thinks you are not frying eggs in a cast iron pan, like you should be. You are misbehaving, so it shuts off to avoid a law suit.I had hoped the Chinese induction furnace driver was naked of baby safety software, and would explode, and burn, rather than shutting down.Obviously, I would not wish to uselessly destroy a piece of apparatus, but want to be free of quirky software issues. Cheers Warren
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Wed, 31 Oct 2018 at 1:18 AM, Dave Muckerman [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]>! ; wrote:       Warren, Make sure to use a stiff DC power supply on your Chinese, Royer type induction circuit or it will blow. 

    On Wednesday, October 31, 2018 12:09 AM, Dave Muckerman <[email protected]> wrote:
 

 I bought some Ebay Beofeng HTs before FCC screws with them.  5 and 8 watt , 2 and .7 meters bands with extra freq. beyond HAM.Only about 25 each. I always wanted a strong pair of walky talkys.I think there are easy to hack and use SDR tech

Check out RF circulators, used to stop back reflections.A 3 port device with a load on one port to arrest offending power.They are a trip to figure out but I think they could be usefull in our OU work.They use a 2 magnets with ferrite surrounding a triangle of copper with each point being one port. 

    On Tuesday, October 30, 2018 7:42 AM, "[email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
 

     brass cores are used for microwaves and they have their specifics to it  ..

(H)  

   

       
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