Magnetic flow?

Norm,

I am all for your dream of managing pure electrostatics for energy but I
would like to know more about the Theta machine you made?  I don't know
what that is unless you meant Theta pinch?

I would like to know more about the pure path magnetics I think it was
you said.

As far as the extra electrons you propose from the conversion of H mon
to H dia is interesting, however is not the unit grounded?  My own
feeling has always been influence machines are ground pumps and the
electrons come from the earth.  Maybe with the pressurized H one is
creating proton electricity, some kind of super ionization making a very
powerful pump.

Any info you can provide concerning your experiments with mag circuits
and the MEG type machine would be appreciated.

BTW why the RIP for Tom Bearden, did he recently pass away?  The web
claims he is currently 88 years old.

Pump the earth take a hivoltage source expose a plate to it the plates
connected to a large cap bank that can handle the voltage .touch the other
end of the cap bank to a good earth ground the attraction of the hivoltage
plat will pull electrons out of the earth to balance off the pull of the
hivoltage source .you can see it move on a amp meter in the ground line on
its lowest setting. Now dump it into a battery .the shift of electrons
electrostatic induction ..the problem is you have to move the plates away
from the source and by the time it's charged there an attraction to it
going on and it relates to the charge and it's about the same as the work
needed to pull it away .so use a Gary Westley  ? Neutral zone on it four
magnets in repulsion mod and a steal piece on the neutral zone .it should
privet out of the zone easily .or in moving the plates out of a lineament
and extract the charge .you can charge a battery on the in by putting the
ground Thu the battery and on the iron piece with windings and the captured
charge on the cap!bank . could be automated with work . it's the old
charged balloon trick rub one touch the other zap you get shocked by
equalization .
On Oct 3, 2018 7:07 PM, "Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <
[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> Norm,
>
> I am all for your dream of managing pure electrostatics for energy but I
> would like to know more about the Theta machine you made?  I don't know
> what that is unless you meant Theta pinch?
>
> I would like to know more about the pure path magnetics I think it was
> you said.
>
> As far as the extra electrons you propose from the conversion of H mon
> to H dia is interesting, however is not the unit grounded?  My own
> feeling has always been influence machines are ground pumps and the
> electrons come from the earth.  Maybe with the pressurized H one is
> creating proton electricity, some kind of super ionization making a very
> powerful pump.
>
> Any info you can provide concerning your experiments with mag circuits
> and the MEG type machine would be appreciated.
>
> BTW why the RIP for Tom Bearden, did he recently pass away?  The web
> claims he is currently 88 years old.
>
> 
>

http://rexresearch.com/flynn/flynn.htm        controlling the path of 
magnetic flux from a permanent magnet

Tesla first conceived this idea and used the preferred path technology 
when he built the A/C to DC converter used to power carbon arc street 
light in NY City.  The first modern (circa 1960s) was the Theta Device 
that I found in Free Energy Research books by Davidson. (Can't find)    
Flynn picked up this line of thinking and designed the preferred path or 
steering magnetic flux same as Theta Device.  Tom Beardens' MEG worked 
the same way. Oh!  BTW, Tom is still alive.  The Thomas Bearden, 
Huntsville, AL Obituary was in the paper but different Thomas.  Sorry!

I asked all of you to Re-think our approach to extracting energy from 
the Aether via looking at the dielectric in the equation. Hydrogen is 
the dielectric in the Felici generator and vacuum is dielectric in the 
CERN generator. ????   Maybe we are looking in wrong pathway to tapping 
the Aether????


On 10/3/2018 7:06 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Norm,
>
> I am all for your dream of managing pure electrostatics for energy but I
> would like to know more about the Theta machine you made? I don't know
> what that is unless you meant Theta pinch?
>
> I would like to know more about the pure path magnetics I think it was
> you said.
>
> As far as the extra electrons you propose from the conversion of H mon
> to H dia is interesting, however is not the unit grounded?  My own
> feeling has always been influence machines are ground pumps and the
> electrons come from the earth.  Maybe with the pressurized H one is
> creating proton electricity, some kind of super ionization making a very
> powerful pump.
>
> Any info you can provide concerning your experiments with mag circuits
> and the MEG type machine would be appreciated.
>
> BTW why the RIP for Tom Bearden, did he recently pass away?  The web
> claims he is currently 88 years old.
>
>

Norm,

What is your take on these devices, if you built it and then switched to
hi Q resonance systems it must not have met your expectations. Did the
flux switching not work reliably or not produce enough energy?

I was not aware of the Theta device, always thought the modern versions
began with Radus and his magnetic boots.

The Sweet device used conditioned magnets so same idea but more
efficiency.  Sweet had an industrial magnetizer in his apartment and I
think used a color TV to check when he conditioned one properly.

Being that the gain in these devices is likely low, except for the Sweet
device, the Smith concept of using volts as a multiplier makes good sense.

On the other side of things, the Dielectric which you have been thinking
about deeply, this makes sense as it is the most planetary natural in
ones face energy source and would likely be the first electricity most
civilizations would define and build.  I imagine that all sorts of high
technology are down this path of ions that we missed when moving to
magnet power.

I also think that Lenz and his irritating law are not apparent with
these machines as there is no B field of consequence prior to stepping
down so they are very asymmetric.

The H influence machine is marvelous, can you elaborate how the vacuum
electrostatic device works at CERN?



On 10/5/2018 5:17 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> http://rexresearch.com/flynn/flynn.htm        controlling the path of
> magnetic flux from a permanent magnet
>
> Tesla first conceived this idea and used the preferred path technology
> when he built the A/C to DC converter used to power carbon arc street
> light in NY City.  The first modern (circa 1960s) was the Theta Device
> that I found in Free Energy Research books by Davidson. (Can't
> find)    Flynn picked up this line of thinking and designed the
> preferred path or steering magnetic flux same as Theta Device.  Tom
> Beardens' MEG worked the same way.   Oh!  BTW, Tom is still alive. 
> The Thomas Bearden, Huntsville, AL Obituary was in the paper but
> different Thomas.  Sorry!
>
> I asked all of you to Re-think our approach to extracting energy from
> the Aether via looking at the dielectric in the equation.  Hydrogen is
> the dielectric in the Felici generator and vacuum is dielectric in the
> CERN generator. ????   Maybe we are looking in wrong pathway to
> tapping the Aether????
>
>
> On 10/3/2018 7:06 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>  
>>
>> Norm,
>>
>> I am all for your dream of managing pure electrostatics for energy but I
>> would like to know more about the Theta machine you made?  I don't know
>> what that is unless you meant Theta pinch?
>>
>> I would like to know more about the pure path magnetics I think it was
>> you said.
>>
>> As far as the extra electrons you propose from the conversion of H mon
>> to H dia is interesting, however is not the unit grounded?  My own
>> feeling has always been influence machines are ground pumps and the
>> electrons come from the earth.  Maybe with the pressurized H one is
>> creating proton electricity, some kind of super ionization making a very
>> powerful pump.
>>
>> Any info you can provide concerning your experiments with mag circuits
>> and the MEG type machine would be appreciated.
>>
>> BTW why the RIP for Tom Bearden, did he recently pass away?  The web
>> claims he is currently 88 years old.
>>
>
>

Great James, you got the concept exactly right with charging caps with 
electrostatic induction from earth ground!


On 10/4/2018 12:34 AM, James Glinski [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Pump the earth take a hivoltage source expose a plate to it the plates 
> connected to a large cap bank that can handle the voltage .touch the 
> other end of the cap bank to a good earth ground the attraction of the 
> hivoltage plat will pull electrons out of the earth to balance off the 
> pull of the hivoltage source .you can see it move on a amp meter in 
> the ground line on its lowest setting. Now dump it into a battery .the 
> shift of electrons electrostatic induction ..the problem is you have 
> to move the plates away from the source and by the time it's charged 
> there an attraction to it going on and it relates to the charge and 
> it's about the same as the work needed to pull it away .so use a Gary 
> Westley  ? Neutral zone on it four magnets in repulsion mod and a 
> steal piece on the neutral zone .it should privet out of the zone 
> easily .or in moving the plates out of a lineament and extract the 
> charge .you can charge a battery on the in by putting the ground Thu 
> the battery and on the iron piece with windings and the captured 
> charge on the cap!bank . could be automated with work . it's the old 
> charged balloon trick rub one touch the other zap you get shocked by 
> equalization .
>
> On Oct 3, 2018 7:07 PM, "Mick [email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]" <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>     Norm,
>
>     I am all for your dream of managing pure electrostatics for energy
>     but I
>     would like to know more about the Theta machine you made?  I don't
>     know
>     what that is unless you meant Theta pinch?
>
>     I would like to know more about the pure path magnetics I think it was
>     you said.
>
>     As far as the extra electrons you propose from the conversion of H mon
>     to H dia is interesting, however is not the unit grounded?  My own
>     feeling has always been influence machines are ground pumps and the
>     electrons come from the earth.  Maybe with the pressurized H one is
>     creating proton electricity, some kind of super ionization making
>     a very
>     powerful pump.
>
>     Any info you can provide concerning your experiments with mag circuits
>     and the MEG type machine would be appreciated.
>
>     BTW why the RIP for Tom Bearden, did he recently pass away?  The web
>     claims he is currently 88 years old.
>
>

The Theta Device was rather crude by today standards and used soft iron 
bars instead of silica steel lams and driving the path switching coils 
with 12VDC at a rate to give 60hz A/C output was not effiecient!   Look 
at the Flynn Device that I sent to you for it is by far a better 
construction!


On 10/5/2018 10:35 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Norm,
>
> What is your take on these devices, if you built it and then switched 
> to hi Q resonance systems it must not have met your expectations. Did 
> the flux switching not work reliably or not produce enough energy?
>
> I was not aware of the Theta device, always thought the modern 
> versions began with Radus and his magnetic boots.
>
> The Sweet device used conditioned magnets so same idea but more 
> efficiency.  Sweet had an industrial magnetizer in his apartment and I 
> think used a color TV to check when he conditioned one properly.
>
> Being that the gain in these devices is likely low, except for the 
> Sweet device, the Smith concept of using volts as a multiplier makes 
> good sense.
>
> On the other side of things, the Dielectric which you have been 
> thinking about deeply, this makes sense as it is the most planetary 
> natural in ones face energy source and would likely be the first 
> electricity most civilizations would define and build.  I imagine that 
> all sorts of high technology are down this path of ions that we missed 
> when moving to magnet power.
>
> I also think that Lenz and his irritating law are not apparent with 
> these machines as there is no B field of consequence prior to stepping 
> down so they are very asymmetric.
>
> The H influence machine is marvelous, can you elaborate how the vacuum 
> electrostatic device works at CERN?
>
>
>
> On 10/5/2018 5:17 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>> http://rexresearch.com/flynn/flynn.htm controlling the path of 
>> magnetic flux from a permanent magnet
>>
>> Tesla first conceived this idea and used the preferred path 
>> technology when he built the A/C to DC converter used to power carbon 
>> arc street light in NY City.  The first modern (circa 1960s) was the 
>> Theta Device that I found in Free Energy Research books by Davidson. 
>> (Can't find)    Flynn picked up this line of thinking and designed 
>> the preferred path or steering magnetic flux same as Theta Device.  
>> Tom Beardens' MEG worked the same way.   Oh!  BTW, Tom is still 
>> alive. The Thomas Bearden, Huntsville, AL Obituary was in the paper 
>> but different Thomas.  Sorry!
>>
>> I asked all of you to Re-think our approach to extracting energy from 
>> the Aether via looking at the dielectric in the equation.  Hydrogen 
>> is the dielectric in the Felici generator and vacuum is dielectric in 
>> the CERN generator. ????   Maybe we are looking in wrong pathway to 
>> tapping the Aether????
>>
>>
>> On 10/3/2018 7:06 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>> Norm,
>>>
>>> I am all for your dream of managing pure electrostatics for energy but I
>>> would like to know more about the Theta machine you made?  I don't know
>>> what that is unless you meant Theta pinch?
>>>
>>> I would like to know more about the pure path magnetics I think it was
>>> you said.
>>>
>>> As far as the extra electrons you propose from the conversion of H mon
>>> to H dia is interesting, however is not the unit grounded?  My own
>>> feeling has always been influence machines are ground pumps and the
>>> electrons come from the earth.  Maybe with the pressurized H one is
>>> creating proton electricity, some kind of super ionization making a very
>>> powerful pump.
>>>
>>> Any info you can provide concerning your experiments with mag circuits
>>> and the MEG type machine would be appreciated.
>>>
>>> BTW why the RIP for Tom Bearden, did he recently pass away?  The web
>>> claims he is currently 88 years old.
>>>
>>
>
>

Hay norm
I've been thinking on this energy extraction and I've been under the
impression that with a hivoltage plate you would need to move it out of the
field to extract the energy .but I didn't have to thinking back .the charge
built up in the adjacent cap that's connected to a good earth ground and
when the internal voltage was around 96 or so volts the neon that I had on
the caps terminals to short it would fire .I was using a string of these
like five at best try....but the single cap was over unity .charged by
electrostatic induction Thu the cap to ground not touching the source power
. I used a car coil and a verac to ajust voltage . that would make it a
electron pump many demos in physics show how one charged balloon can charge
hundreds of them on the same original charge . but it's equilivilent to the
fource needed to separate them .but a neon can just short it .now but a
battery there and use a MOSFET charge dump . might revisit it .
On Oct 5, 2018 10:36 AM, "Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <
[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> Norm,
>
> What is your take on these devices, if you built it and then switched to
> hi Q resonance systems it must not have met your expectations. Did the flux
> switching not work reliably or not produce enough energy?
>
> I was not aware of the Theta device, always thought the modern versions
> began with Radus and his magnetic boots.
>
> The Sweet device used conditioned magnets so same idea but more
> efficiency.  Sweet had an industrial magnetizer in his apartment and I
> think used a color TV to check when he conditioned one properly.
>
> Being that the gain in these devices is likely low, except for the Sweet
> device, the Smith concept of using volts as a multiplier makes good sense.
>
> On the other side of things, the Dielectric which you have been thinking
> about deeply, this makes sense as it is the most planetary natural in ones
> face energy source and would likely be the first electricity most
> civilizations would define and build.  I imagine that all sorts of high
> technology are down this path of ions that we missed when moving to magnet
> power.
>
> I also think that Lenz and his irritating law are not apparent with these
> machines as there is no B field of consequence prior to stepping down so
> they are very asymmetric.
>
> The H influence machine is marvelous, can you elaborate how the vacuum
> electrostatic device works at CERN?
>
>
>
> On 10/5/2018 5:17 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
>
>
> http://rexresearch.com/flynn/flynn.htm        controlling the path of
> magnetic flux from a permanent magnet
>
> Tesla first conceived this idea and used the preferred path technology
> when he built the A/C to DC converter used to power carbon arc street light
> in NY City.  The first modern (circa 1960s) was the Theta Device that I
> found in Free Energy Research books by Davidson. (Can't find)    Flynn
> picked up this line of thinking and designed the preferred path or steering
> magnetic flux same as Theta Device.  Tom Beardens' MEG worked the same
> way.   Oh!  BTW, Tom is still alive.  The Thomas Bearden, Huntsville, AL
> Obituary was in the paper but different Thomas.  Sorry!
>
> I asked all of you to Re-think our approach to extracting energy from the
> Aether via looking at the dielectric in the equation.  Hydrogen is the
> dielectric in the Felici generator and vacuum is dielectric in the CERN
> generator. ????   Maybe we are looking in wrong pathway to tapping the
> Aether????
>
> On 10/3/2018 7:06 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
>
>
> Norm,
>
> I am all for your dream of managing pure electrostatics for energy but I
> would like to know more about the Theta machine you made?  I don't know
> what that is unless you meant Theta pinch?
>
> I would like to know more about the pure path magnetics I think it was
> you said.
>
> As far as the extra electrons you propose from the conversion of H mon
> to H dia is interesting, however is not the unit grounded?  My own
> feeling has always been influence machines are ground pumps and the
> electrons come from the earth.  Maybe with the pressurized H one is
> creating proton electricity, some kind of super ionization making a very
> powerful pump.
>
> Any info you can provide concerning your experiments with mag circuits
> and the MEG type machine would be appreciated.
>
> BTW why the RIP for Tom Bearden, did he recently pass away?  The web
> claims he is currently 88 years old.
>
>
>
> 
>

Ha ha ha it's regauging the cap Thu electrostatic induction .funny .this
stuff Bedini always talked about reguaging but here it is only in another
form .electrostatic not magnetic .
On Oct 6, 2018 1:48 AM, [email protected] wrote:

> Hay norm
> I've been thinking on this energy extraction and I've been under the
> impression that with a hivoltage plate you would need to move it out of the
> field to extract the energy .but I didn't have to thinking back .the charge
> built up in the adjacent cap that's connected to a good earth ground and
> when the internal voltage was around 96 or so volts the neon that I had on
> the caps terminals to short it would fire .I was using a string of these
> like five at best try....but the single cap was over unity .charged by
> electrostatic induction Thu the cap to ground not touching the source power
> . I used a car coil and a verac to ajust voltage . that would make it a
> electron pump many demos in physics show how one charged balloon can charge
> hundreds of them on the same original charge . but it's equilivilent to the
> fource needed to separate them .but a neon can just short it .now but a
> battery there and use a MOSFET charge dump . might revisit it .
> On Oct 5, 2018 10:36 AM, "Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Norm,
>>
>> What is your take on these devices, if you built it and then switched to
>> hi Q resonance systems it must not have met your expectations. Did the flux
>> switching not work reliably or not produce enough energy?
>>
>> I was not aware of the Theta device, always thought the modern versions
>> began with Radus and his magnetic boots.
>>
>> The Sweet device used conditioned magnets so same idea but more
>> efficiency.  Sweet had an industrial magnetizer in his apartment and I
>> think used a color TV to check when he conditioned one properly.
>>
>> Being that the gain in these devices is likely low, except for the Sweet
>> device, the Smith concept of using volts as a multiplier makes good sense.
>>
>> On the other side of things, the Dielectric which you have been thinking
>> about deeply, this makes sense as it is the most planetary natural in ones
>> face energy source and would likely be the first electricity most
>> civilizations would define and build.  I imagine that all sorts of high
>> technology are down this path of ions that we missed when moving to magnet
>> power.
>>
>> I also think that Lenz and his irritating law are not apparent with these
>> machines as there is no B field of consequence prior to stepping down so
>> they are very asymmetric.
>>
>> The H influence machine is marvelous, can you elaborate how the vacuum
>> electrostatic device works at CERN?
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/5/2018 5:17 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> http://rexresearch.com/flynn/flynn.htm        controlling the path of
>> magnetic flux from a permanent magnet
>>
>> Tesla first conceived this idea and used the preferred path technology
>> when he built the A/C to DC converter used to power carbon arc street light
>> in NY City.  The first modern (circa 1960s) was the Theta Device that I
>> found in Free Energy Research books by Davidson. (Can't find)    Flynn
>> picked up this line of thinking and designed the preferred path or steering
>> magnetic flux same as Theta Device.  Tom Beardens' MEG worked the same
>> way.   Oh!  BTW, Tom is still alive.  The Thomas Bearden, Huntsville, AL
>> Obituary was in the paper but different Thomas.  Sorry!
>>
>> I asked all of you to Re-think our approach to extracting energy from the
>> Aether via looking at the dielectric in the equation.  Hydrogen is the
>> dielectric in the Felici generator and vacuum is dielectric in the CERN
>> generator. ????   Maybe we are looking in wrong pathway to tapping the
>> Aether????
>>
>> On 10/3/2018 7:06 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Norm,
>>
>> I am all for your dream of managing pure electrostatics for energy but I
>> would like to know more about the Theta machine you made?  I don't know
>> what that is unless you meant Theta pinch?
>>
>> I would like to know more about the pure path magnetics I think it was
>> you said.
>>
>> As far as the extra electrons you propose from the conversion of H mon
>> to H dia is interesting, however is not the unit grounded?  My own
>> feeling has always been influence machines are ground pumps and the
>> electrons come from the earth.  Maybe with the pressurized H one is
>> creating proton electricity, some kind of super ionization making a very
>> powerful pump.
>>
>> Any info you can provide concerning your experiments with mag circuits
>> and the MEG type machine would be appreciated.
>>
>> BTW why the RIP for Tom Bearden, did he recently pass away?  The web
>> claims he is currently 88 years old.
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>

You got it James!!


On 10/6/2018 1:53 AM, James Glinski [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Ha ha ha it's regauging the cap Thu electrostatic induction .funny 
> .this stuff Bedini always talked about reguaging but here it is only 
> in another form .electrostatic not magnetic .
>
> On Oct 6, 2018 1:48 AM, [email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>
>     Hay norm
>     I've been thinking on this energy extraction and I've been under
>     the impression that with a hivoltage plate you would need to move
>     it out of the field to extract the energy .but I didn't have to
>     thinking back .the charge built up in the adjacent cap that's
>     connected to a good earth ground and when the internal voltage was
>     around 96 or so volts the neon that I had on the caps terminals to
>     short it would fire .I was using a string of these like five at
>     best try....but the single cap was over unity .charged by
>     electrostatic induction Thu the cap to ground not touching the
>     source power . I used a car coil and a verac to ajust voltage .
>     that would make it a electron pump many demos in physics show how
>     one charged balloon can charge hundreds of them on the same
>     original charge . but it's equilivilent to the fource needed to
>     separate them .but a neon can just short it .now but a battery
>     there and use a MOSFET charge dump . might revisit it .
>
>     On Oct 5, 2018 10:36 AM, "Mick [email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>         Norm,
>
>         What is your take on these devices, if you built it and then
>         switched to hi Q resonance systems it must not have met your
>         expectations. Did the flux switching not work reliably or not
>         produce enough energy?
>
>         I was not aware of the Theta device, always thought the modern
>         versions began with Radus and his magnetic boots.
>
>         The Sweet device used conditioned magnets so same idea but
>         more efficiency.  Sweet had an industrial magnetizer in his
>         apartment and I think used a color TV to check when he
>         conditioned one properly.
>
>         Being that the gain in these devices is likely low, except for
>         the Sweet device, the Smith concept of using volts as a
>         multiplier makes good sense.
>
>         On the other side of things, the Dielectric which you have
>         been thinking about deeply, this makes sense as it is the most
>         planetary natural in ones face energy source and would likely
>         be the first electricity most civilizations would define and
>         build.  I imagine that all sorts of high technology are down
>         this path of ions that we missed when moving to magnet power.
>
>         I also think that Lenz and his irritating law are not apparent
>         with these machines as there is no B field of consequence
>         prior to stepping down so they are very asymmetric.
>
>         The H influence machine is marvelous, can you elaborate how
>         the vacuum electrostatic device works at CERN?
>
>
>
>         On 10/5/2018 5:17 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected]
>         <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>>         http://rexresearch.com/flynn/flynn.htm
>>         <http://rexresearch.com/flynn/flynn.htm> controlling the path
>>         of magnetic flux from a permanent magnet
>>
>>         Tesla first conceived this idea and used the preferred path
>>         technology when he built the A/C to DC converter used to
>>         power carbon arc street light in NY City.  The first modern
>>         (circa 1960s) was the Theta Device that I found in Free
>>         Energy Research books by Davidson. (Can't find)    Flynn
>>         picked up this line of thinking and designed the preferred
>>         path or steering magnetic flux same as Theta Device. Tom
>>         Beardens' MEG worked the same way.   Oh!  BTW, Tom is still
>>         alive. The Thomas Bearden, Huntsville, AL Obituary was in the
>>         paper but different Thomas.  Sorry!
>>
>>         I asked all of you to Re-think our approach to extracting
>>         energy from the Aether via looking at the dielectric in the
>>         equation.  Hydrogen is the dielectric in the Felici generator
>>         and vacuum is dielectric in the CERN generator. ????   Maybe
>>         we are looking in wrong pathway to tapping the Aether????
>>
>>
>>         On 10/3/2018 7:06 PM, Mick [email protected]
>>         <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>>         Norm,
>>>
>>>         I am all for your dream of managing pure electrostatics for
>>>         energy but I
>>>         would like to know more about the Theta machine you made?  I
>>>         don't know
>>>         what that is unless you meant Theta pinch?
>>>
>>>         I would like to know more about the pure path magnetics I
>>>         think it was
>>>         you said.
>>>
>>>         As far as the extra electrons you propose from the
>>>         conversion of H mon
>>>         to H dia is interesting, however is not the unit grounded? 
>>>         My own
>>>         feeling has always been influence machines are ground pumps
>>>         and the
>>>         electrons come from the earth. Maybe with the pressurized H
>>>         one is
>>>         creating proton electricity, some kind of super ionization
>>>         making a very
>>>         powerful pump.
>>>
>>>         Any info you can provide concerning your experiments with
>>>         mag circuits
>>>         and the MEG type machine would be appreciated.
>>>
>>>         BTW why the RIP for Tom Bearden, did he recently pass away? 
>>>         The web
>>>         claims he is currently 88 years old.
>>>
>>
>
>

Hi James 
Regauginh means to flip polArity of.(?)...so cap you fill up one direction in polarity but upon discharge it flows opposiye and if electrostatic.perhaps the discharge an fillling process is on teeter totter and can go either direction because no Lenz law forces I don't know...what I described is regaugingu7 of CORE polarity as problem is cores if N N upon "approach" after the initial NN pulse the cores will clash from remnance magnetism and rotor will have to push through the clashing still N N magnetism to get to the alignment position for the next NN pulse...a magnet that rotor sweeps near by between pulsed can be such that it will regauge/flip polarity of the core do not only is there no backwards force  clash anymore upon approach, of rotor to stator, now it wl.balsoe s free Srotor Nstator power pull....also magnet induces power into the rotor coil too. Can be expanded to be Lenz free generator if power to load only taken out when coils buck
Kone

When it worked it up two five in a series I stopped do to the colors coming
off the neons .not orange but white and blue and ultraviolet .having only
the neons as a safety and they were acting strange I didn't need a
explosion on the bench .from the motor run caps . so I shut it down .but at
four or three much less of a problem .you have to up the voltage to reach
the   number five cap much .but they all fired randomly even being isolated
by the dielectric .the caps in the middle had not direct connection being I
was using DC .
On Oct 6, 2018 6:54 AM, "Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <
[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> You got it James!!
>
> On 10/6/2018 1:53 AM, James Glinski [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
>
>
> Ha ha ha it's regauging the cap Thu electrostatic induction .funny .this
> stuff Bedini always talked about reguaging but here it is only in another
> form .electrostatic not magnetic .
> On Oct 6, 2018 1:48 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>
>> Hay norm
>> I've been thinking on this energy extraction and I've been under the
>> impression that with a hivoltage plate you would need to move it out of the
>> field to extract the energy .but I didn't have to thinking back .the charge
>> built up in the adjacent cap that's connected to a good earth ground and
>> when the internal voltage was around 96 or so volts the neon that I had on
>> the caps terminals to short it would fire .I was using a string of these
>> like five at best try....but the single cap was over unity .charged by
>> electrostatic induction Thu the cap to ground not touching the source power
>> . I used a car coil and a verac to ajust voltage . that would make it a
>> electron pump many demos in physics show how one charged balloon can charge
>> hundreds of them on the same original charge . but it's equilivilent to the
>> fource needed to separate them .but a neon can just short it .now but a
>> battery there and use a MOSFET charge dump . might revisit it .
>> On Oct 5, 2018 10:36 AM, "Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Norm,
>>>
>>> What is your take on these devices, if you built it and then switched to
>>> hi Q resonance systems it must not have met your expectations. Did the flux
>>> switching not work reliably or not produce enough energy?
>>>
>>> I was not aware of the Theta device, always thought the modern versions
>>> began with Radus and his magnetic boots.
>>>
>>> The Sweet device used conditioned magnets so same idea but more
>>> efficiency.  Sweet had an industrial magnetizer in his apartment and I
>>> think used a color TV to check when he conditioned one properly.
>>>
>>> Being that the gain in these devices is likely low, except for the Sweet
>>> device, the Smith concept of using volts as a multiplier makes good sense.
>>>
>>> On the other side of things, the Dielectric which you have been thinking
>>> about deeply, this makes sense as it is the most planetary natural in ones
>>> face energy source and would likely be the first electricity most
>>> civilizations would define and build.  I imagine that all sorts of high
>>> technology are down this path of ions that we missed when moving to magnet
>>> power.
>>>
>>> I also think that Lenz and his irritating law are not apparent with
>>> these machines as there is no B field of consequence prior to stepping down
>>> so they are very asymmetric.
>>>
>>> The H influence machine is marvelous, can you elaborate how the vacuum
>>> electrostatic device works at CERN?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/5/2018 5:17 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://rexresearch.com/flynn/flynn.htm        controlling the path of
>>> magnetic flux from a permanent magnet
>>>
>>> Tesla first conceived this idea and used the preferred path technology
>>> when he built the A/C to DC converter used to power carbon arc street light
>>> in NY City.  The first modern (circa 1960s) was the Theta Device that I
>>> found in Free Energy Research books by Davidson. (Can't find)    Flynn
>>> picked up this line of thinking and designed the preferred path or steering
>>> magnetic flux same as Theta Device.  Tom Beardens' MEG worked the same
>>> way.   Oh!  BTW, Tom is still alive.  The Thomas Bearden, Huntsville, AL
>>> Obituary was in the paper but different Thomas.  Sorry!
>>>
>>> I asked all of you to Re-think our approach to extracting energy from
>>> the Aether via looking at the dielectric in the equation.  Hydrogen is the
>>> dielectric in the Felici generator and vacuum is dielectric in the CERN
>>> generator. ????   Maybe we are looking in wrong pathway to tapping the
>>> Aether????
>>>
>>> On 10/3/2018 7:06 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Norm,
>>>
>>> I am all for your dream of managing pure electrostatics for energy but I
>>> would like to know more about the Theta machine you made?  I don't know
>>> what that is unless you meant Theta pinch?
>>>
>>> I would like to know more about the pure path magnetics I think it was
>>> you said.
>>>
>>> As far as the extra electrons you propose from the conversion of H mon
>>> to H dia is interesting, however is not the unit grounded?  My own
>>> feeling has always been influence machines are ground pumps and the
>>> electrons come from the earth.  Maybe with the pressurized H one is
>>> creating proton electricity, some kind of super ionization making a very
>>> powerful pump.
>>>
>>> Any info you can provide concerning your experiments with mag circuits
>>> and the MEG type machine would be appreciated.
>>>
>>> BTW why the RIP for Tom Bearden, did he recently pass away?  The web
>>> claims he is currently 88 years old.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
> 
>

DougYour communication was a bit dodgy, but do I understand you correctly that the polarity of the capacitor reverses on discharge?I haven't tried this, but it strikes me as strange. I have always treated caps much like batteries in thinking, even though they are technically different.I have read about re- gauging for years, but don't completely understand it.Cheers Warren
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Sat, 6 Oct 2018 at 7:49 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
Hi James 
Regauginh means to flip polArity of.(?)...so cap you fill up one direction in polarity but upon discharge it flows opposiye and if electrostatic.perhaps the discharge an fillling process is on teeter totter and can go either direction because no Lenz law forces I don't know...what I described is regaugingu7 of CORE polarity as problem is cores if N N upon "approach" after the initial NN pulse the cores will clash from remnance magnetism and rotor will have to push through the clashing still N N magnetism to get to the alignment position for the next NN pulse...a magnet that rotor sweeps near by between pulsed can be such that it will regauge/flip polarity of the core do not only is there no backwards force clash anymore upon approach, of rotor to stator, now it wl.balsoe s free Srotor Nstator power pull....also magnet induces power into the rotor coil too. Can be expanded to be Lenz free generator if power to load only taken out when coils buck
Kone 

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Hi James,

"...but they all fired randomly even being isolated by the dielectric .the caps in the middle had not direct connection being I was using DC ."
Even when using DC the current will pass a capacitor if the DC isn't steady state. Thus by charging or discharging capacitors in series or single ones current will pass during that charging or discharging as the charge running is actually the current.

Capacitive voltage divider: https://wiki2.org/en/Voltage_divider#Capacitive_divider https://wiki2.org/en/Voltage_divider#Capacitive_divider

Regards
Ole
 

---In [email protected], <jglinski01@...> wrote :

 When it worked it up two five in a series I stopped do to the colors coming off the neons .not orange but white and blue and ultraviolet .having only the neons as a safety and they were acting strange I didn't need a explosion on the bench .from the motor run caps . so I shut it down .but at four or three much less of a problem .you have to up the voltage to reach the   number five cap much .but they all fired randomly even being isolated by the dielectric .the caps in the middle had not direct connection being I was using DC .
 On Oct 6, 2018 6:54 AM, "Norman Wootan nwootan@... mailto:nwootan@... [EVGRAY]" <[email protected] mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
   
 You got it James!!

 
 On 10/6/2018 1:53 AM, James Glinski jglinski01@... mailto:jglinski01@... [EVGRAY] wrote:

   Ha ha ha it's regauging the cap Thu electrostatic induction .funny .this stuff Bedini always talked about reguaging but here it is only in another form .electrostatic not magnetic .
 On Oct 6, 2018 1:48 AM, jglinski01@... mailto:jglinski01@... wrote:
 Hay norm 
 I've been thinking on this energy extraction and I've been under the impression that with a hivoltage plate you would need to move it out of the field to extract the energy .but I didn't have to thinking back .the charge built up in the adjacent cap that's connected to a good earth ground and when the internal voltage was around 96 or so volts the neon that I had on the caps terminals to short it would fire .I was using a string of these like five at best try....but the single cap was over unity .charged by electrostatic induction Thu the cap to ground not touching the source power . I used a car coil and a verac to ajust voltage . that would make it a electron pump many demos in physics show how one charged balloon can charge hundreds of them on the same original charge . but it's equilivilent to the fource needed to separate them .but a neon can just short it .now but a battery there and use a MOSFET charge dump . might revisit it .
 On Oct 5, 2018 10:36 AM, "Mick mkjekyll@... mailto:mkjekyll@... [EVGRAY]" <[email protected] mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
   
 Norm,
 What is your take on these devices, if you built it and then switched to hi Q resonance systems it must not have met your expectations. Did the flux switching not work reliably or not produce enough energy?
 I was not aware of the Theta device, always thought the modern versions began with Radus and his magnetic boots.
 The Sweet device used conditioned magnets so same idea but more efficiency.  Sweet had an industrial magnetizer in his apartment and I think used a color TV to check when he conditioned one properly.
 Being that the gain in these devices is likely low, except for the Sweet device, the Smith concept of using volts as a multiplier makes good sense.
 On the other side of things, the Dielectric which you have been thinking about deeply, this makes sense as it is the most planetary natural in ones face energy source and would likely be the first electricity most civilizations would define and build.  I imagine that all sorts of high technology are down this path of ions that we missed when moving to magnet power. 

 I also think that Lenz and his irritating law are not apparent with these machines as there is no B field of consequence prior to stepping down so they are very asymmetric.

 The H influence machine is marvelous, can you elaborate how the vacuum electrostatic device works at CERN?

 

 
 On 10/5/2018 5:17 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... mailto:nwootan@... [EVGRAY] wrote:

   
 http://rexresearch.com/flynn/f lynn.htm http://rexresearch.com/flynn/flynn.htm        controlling the path of magnetic flux from a permanent magnet
 Tesla first conceived this idea and used the preferred path technology when he built the A/C to DC converter used to power carbon arc street light in NY City.  The first modern (circa 1960s) was the Theta Device that I found in Free Energy Research books by Davidson. (Can't find)    Flynn picked up this line of thinking and designed the preferred path or steering magnetic flux same as Theta Device.  Tom Beardens' MEG worked the same way.   Oh!  BTW, Tom is still alive.  The Thomas Bearden, Huntsville, AL Obituary was in the paper but different Thomas.  Sorry!
 I asked all of you to Re-think our approach to extracting energy from the Aether via looking at the dielectric in the equation.  Hydrogen is the dielectric in the Felici generator and vacuum is dielectric in the CERN generator. ????   Maybe we are looking in wrong pathway to tapping the Aether????

 
 On 10/3/2018 7:06 PM, Mick mkjekyll@... mailto:mkjekyll@... [EVGRAY] wrote:

   Norm,
 
 I am all for your dream of managing pure electrostatics for energy but I
 would like to know more about the Theta machine you made?  I don't know
 what that is unless you meant Theta pinch?
 
 I would like to know more about the pure path magnetics I think it was
 you said.
 
 As far as the extra electrons you propose from the conversion of H mon
 to H dia is interesting, however is not the unit grounded?  My own
 feeling has always been influence machines are ground pumps and the
 electrons come from the earth.  Maybe with the pressurized H one is
 creating proton electricity, some kind of super ionization making a very
 powerful pump.
 
 Any info you can provide concerning your experiments with mag circuits
 and the MEG type machine would be appreciated.
 
 BTW why the RIP for Tom Bearden, did he recently pass away?  The web
 claims he is currently 88 years old.

Hi Warren regauging a core of a coil I understand well..
I described it pretty good I think you just want to do something to that core to flip its polarity it has for fixed into from a dc pulse to coil around it.
Sig you pulse a coil N then the core is N too, and after pulse turns off, the core "remains"N for awhile...the flyback backemf recoil spike reverses.polarity, but does not have enough strength to reverse polarity of that core before next power pulse, so one way to change polarity of core is with permanent magnet.
.caps discharge opposite polarity I was told doesnt make sense to me either!! You still.hook up like battery n on n s on s...maybe this.means when cap reached itd.limit it self discharges  and that is.opposite flow??
Kone

Ole this is basically steady state hivoltage only can pass if damaged .this
try of charging of caps .is called cascade charging .with a series string
.and a earth ground on the end .Ben Franklin did it . by connecting a
hivoltage source to the first cap ...you have to pay for that charge the
rest in the string just steal from each other and balance out there
internal stress created by the hi positive or negative potential there
exposed to .its a shifting of electrons until all have the same charge .but
this can be deceiving in that yes they each contain the same amount of
electron that shifted but do go the volume or a capacitance shift it seems
different in each .if you look to the physics on the net they explain it
this way .you've cloned the original charge though electrostatic induction
.now this is tricky why well there all interrelated and if you can't keep
what you have accumulated your charge goes back to zero .so I was thinking
some diodes between the caps maybe might work ? But they might represent a
barrier to electron flow .? Untested if you remove the hivoltage everything
disappears .if they were to all fire at the same time it would be a dead
short to ground .so random firing works .unless each has its own batter or
larger cap to dump into .
On Oct 6, 2018 1:41 PM, "[email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>
> Hi Warren regauging a core of a coil I understand well..
> I described it pretty good I think you just want to do something to that
> core to flip its polarity it has for fixed into from a dc pulse to coil
> around it.
> Sig you pulse a coil N then the core is N too, and after pulse turns off,
> the core "remains"N for awhile...the flyback backemf recoil spike
> reverses.polarity, but does not have enough strength to reverse polarity of
> that core before next power pulse, so one way to change polarity of core is
> with permanent magnet.
> ..caps discharge opposite polarity I was told doesnt make sense to me
> either!! You still.hook up like battery n on n s on s...maybe this.means
> when cap reached itd.limit it self discharges and that is.opposite flow??
> Kone
> 
>

Hi James,

Charging or discharging capacitors will always be a dynamic event. Even building capacitors of electret the electret will have to be initially charged analogous to magnetizing a permanent magnet before it becomes magnetic. If Ivor Catt's theory is correct capacitors are nothing more than transmission lines (e.g. they are rolled up or stacked transmission lines made of foils of metal and dielectric). The electrons as charge carriers cannot stand still (also W.B. Smith's theory) and thus are constantly on the move even in a charged capacitor. Each time an electron meets an edge of the conductor it is reflected or bounced off. Consider electrons and positrons as miniature smoke rings that breaks up into the basic fields if stopping their movements.

The following almost one hour long video tells about this torus shape of nature '200,000 Year Old Levitaion Technology - Michael Tellinger:' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OO_EoqnabQ8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OO_EoqnabQ8

Diodes makes the electrons go in only one direction even though they do have some small leak current in the opposite direction. From the energy stored in a capacitor its voltage can be calculated when knowing its capacitance. Energy = 1/2 x Capacitance x Voltage^2  =>  Voltage = square root(2 x Energy / Capacitance). If the energy changes something dynamic is taking place.

Regards
Ole
 

---In [email protected], <jglinski01@...> wrote :

 Ole this is basically steady state hivoltage only can pass if damaged .this try of charging of caps .is called cascade charging .with a series string .and a earth ground on the end .Ben Franklin did it . by connecting a hivoltage source to the first cap ...you have to pay for that charge the rest in the string just steal from each other and balance out there internal stress created by the hi positive or negative potential there exposed to .its a shifting of electrons until all have the same charge .but this can be deceiving in that yes they each contain the same amount of electron that shifted but do go the volume or a capacitance shift it seems different in each .if you look to the physics on the net they explain it this way .you've cloned the original charge though electrostatic induction .now this is tricky why well there all interrelated and if you can't keep what you have accumulated your charge goes back to zero .so I was thinking some diodes between the caps maybe might work ? But they might represent a barrier to electron flow .? Untested if you remove the hivoltage everything disappears .if they were to all fire at the same time it would be a dead short to ground .so random firing works .unless each has its own batter or larger cap to dump into .
 On Oct 6, 2018 1:41 PM, "konehead@... mailto:konehead@... [EVGRAY]" <[email protected] mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
   Hi Warren regauging a core of a coil I understand well..
 I described it pretty good I think you just want to do something to that core to flip its polarity it has for fixed into from a dc pulse to coil around it.
 Sig you pulse a coil N then the core is N too, and after pulse turns off, the core "remains"N for awhile...the flyback backemf recoil spike reverses.polarity, but does not have enough strength to reverse polarity of that core before next power pulse, so one way to change polarity of core is with permanent magnet.
 ..caps discharge opposite polarity I was told doesnt make sense to me either!! You still.hook up like battery n on n s on s...maybe this.means when cap reached itd.limit it self discharges and that is.opposite flow??
 Kone

Thanks ole for the information .sorry can't watch the video I'm limited by
my minutes unless I go to a hot spot .

On Saturday, October 6, 2018, [email protected] [EVGRAY] <
[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> Hi James,
>
> Charging or discharging capacitors will always be a dynamic event. Even
> building capacitors of electret the electret will have to be initially
> charged analogous to magnetizing a permanent magnet before it becomes
> magnetic. If Ivor Catt's theory is correct capacitors are nothing more than
> transmission lines (e.g. they are rolled up or stacked transmission lines
> made of foils of metal and dielectric). The electrons as charge carriers
> cannot stand still (also W.B. Smith's theory) and thus are constantly on
> the move even in a charged capacitor. Each time an electron meets an edge
> of the conductor it is reflected or bounced off. Consider electrons and
> positrons as miniature smoke rings that breaks up into the basic fields if
> stopping their movements.
>
> The following almost one hour long video tells about this torus shape of
> nature '200,000 Year Old Levitaion Technology - Michael Tellinger:'
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OO_EoqnabQ8
>
> Diodes makes the electrons go in only one direction even though they do
> have some small leak current in the opposite direction. From the energy
> stored in a capacitor its voltage can be calculated when knowing its
> capacitance. Energy = 1/2 x Capacitance x Voltage^2  =>  Voltage = square
> root(2 x Energy / Capacitance). If the energy changes something dynamic is
> taking place.
>
> Regards
> Ole
>
>
> ---In [email protected], <jglinski01@...> wrote :
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> Ole this is basically steady state hivoltage only can pass if damaged
> .this try of charging of caps .is called cascade charging .with a series
> string .and a earth ground on the end .Ben Franklin did it . by connecting
> a hivoltage source to the first cap ...you have to pay for that charge the
> rest in the string just steal from each other and balance out there
> internal stress created by the hi positive or negative potential there
> exposed to .its a shifting of electrons until all have the same charge .but
> this can be deceiving in that yes they each contain the same amount of
> electron that shifted but do go the volume or a capacitance shift it seems
> different in each .if you look to the physics on the net they explain it
> this way .you've cloned the original charge though electrostatic induction
> .now this is tricky why well there all interrelated and if you can't keep
> what you have accumulated your charge goes back to zero .so I was thinking
> some diodes between the caps maybe might work ? But they might represent a
> barrier to electron flow .? Untested if you remove the hivoltage everything
> disappears .if they were to all fire at the same time it would be a dead
> short to ground .so random firing works .unless each has its own batter or
> larger cap to dump into .
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> On Oct 6, 2018 1:41 PM, "konehead@... [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
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> Hi Warren regauging a core of a coil I understand well..
> I described it pretty good I think you just want to do something to that
> core to flip its polarity it has for fixed into from a dc pulse to coil
> around it.
> Sig you pulse a coil N then the core is N too, and after pulse turns off,
> the core "remains"N for awhile...the flyback backemf recoil spike
> reverses.polarity, but does not have enough strength to reverse polarity of
> that core before next power pulse, so one way to change polarity of core is
> with permanent magnet.
> ...caps discharge opposite polarity I was told doesnt make sense to me
> either!! You still.hook up like battery n on n s on s...maybe this.means
> when cap reached itd.limit it self discharges and that is.opposite flow??
> Kone
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