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Hi Norman, I would like to try a Silva Mica capacitor as additional capacity to the mp oil filled capacitors around the q value increase if it is possible have already stable values over q 30. extraction about diodeplug, search I still a way the scrs later after the peak trigger, I think through the phase shift has the classic phase control a problem, I still think about a inductor after the ignition energy something later after supplies. Greetings Sven


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Von: "Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> 
Datum: 03.10.18  00:10  (GMT+01:00) 
An: [email protected] 
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    We substituted the planar, silver mica capacitors 680pf into the
      mini MRA very successfully. They mimic the piezo in an electronic
      circuit!

    
    

    On 10/2/2018 4:27 PM, SF
      [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:

    
    
      
       
      
          
             
            

            
            Hi Mick, in other words Mica silver or Mica capacitors
              have the same effect as piezo materials, what is cog?
              Because I with low frequencies work do I need already
              capacities in uf area. Under Mica can I find what.
              Greetings Sven
            

            
            
              Von
                meinem Samsung Gerät gesendet.
            
            

            

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            Von: "Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]"
            <[email protected]> 

            Datum: 02.10.18 22:14 (GMT+01:00) 

            An: [email protected] 

            Betreff: Re: AW: Re: Aw: Re: [EVGRAY] Ferroresonance
            amplified by piezoelectric elements 

            

             
            
               
              Sven,
              Anytime one adds more capacitors Q drops as ESR
                increases so it works better if one can use the piezo
                for both functions, if possible.  Many capacitors are
                also piezoelectric materials such as the mica and COG. 
                Lower frequencies do not matter as much.

              
              

              On 10/2/2018 12:12 PM, SF [email protected]
                [EVGRAY] wrote:

              
              
                 
                
                   
                  Hi Mick, so I could try in addition to the caps
                    piezo elements for this purpose to turn, there is
                    there an increase of the q value or did you only
                    with piezo worked?
                  

                  
                  

                  
                  

                  
                  
                    Von
                      meinem Samsung Gerät gesendet.
                  
                  

                  

                  -------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------

                  Von: "Mick [email protected]
                  [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
                  

                  Datum: 02.10.18 18:00 (GMT+01:00) 

                  An: [email protected] 

                  Betreff: Re: Aw: Re: [EVGRAY] Ferroresonance amplified
                  by piezoelectric elements 

                  

                   
                  
                     
                    Hi Sven
                    Yes I have used the little piezo transformers and
                      have also used disks in a tank circuit acting as
                      the capacitance.   On the transformers I was able
                      to get the most gain by using sine waves as they
                      like a clean signal without distortion components
                      being of high Q at the designed frequency.
                      Something I need to get back to in order to
                      determine more facts.

                    
                    

                    On 10/2/2018 5:37 AM, [email protected]
                      [EVGRAY] wrote:

                    
                    
                       
                      
                        
                          Hello Mick,

                              

                              Many thanks for the hints,
                                unfortunately I can not find
                                distribution in Germany or I have to
                                search again.

                              

                              Have you ever included piezo
                                elements in a reactive circuit?

                              

                              regards

                              

                              Sven
                             
                              
                                Gesendet: Montag,
                                  01. Oktober 2018 um 21:01 Uhr

                                  Von: "Mick [email protected]
                                  [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>

                                  An: [email protected]

                                  Betreff: Re: [EVGRAY]
                                  Ferroresonance amplified by
                                  piezoelectric elements
                                
                                   
                                    
                                      
                                        
                                           
                                          Sven
                                          Have a look here:
                                          http://steminc.com/
                                          http://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.7567/JJAP.55.086702
                                           
                                          On
                                            10/1/2018 7:57 AM, [email protected]
                                            [EVGRAY] wrote:
                                           
                                            
                                              Hello
                                                    everyone, is it
                                                    possible to use
                                                    resonant capacitors
                                                    in the case of FR
                                                    transformer in
                                                    addition to
                                                    switching piezo
                                                    elements in parallel
                                                    or do the thin
                                                    elements hold over
                                                    400V?

                                                  

                                                  The MRA of
                                                    Norman works with a
                                                    large piezo element,
                                                    unfortunately I can
                                                    not get something
                                                    like this or I
                                                    search wrong via
                                                    google.

                                                  

                                                  regards

                                                  

                                                  Sven

http://www.rexresearch.com/1hodomra/05-5-20.htm       Joel & I became 
great friends with Greg and it was one of his Mini MRAs that tested 256X 
over unity and was submitted to Patent Office as final affidavit!  Greg 
(RIP) was an Engineer at RCA Corp.   Sven, this is the use of silver 
mica caps as piezo substitute!


On 10/2/2018 5:38 PM, SF [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Hi Norman, I would like to try a Silva Mica capacitor as additional 
> capacity to the mp oil filled capacitors around the q value increase 
> if it is possible have already stable values over q 30. extraction 
> about diodeplug, search I still a way the scrs later after the peak 
> trigger, I think through the phase shift has the classic phase control 
> a problem, I still think about a inductor after the ignition energy 
> something later after supplies. Greetings Sven
>
>
>
> Von meinem Samsung Gerät gesendet.
>
>
> -------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
> Von: "Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
> Datum: 03.10.18 00:10 (GMT+01:00)
> An: [email protected]
> Betreff: Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: Aw: Re: [EVGRAY] Ferroresonance amplified 
> by piezoelectric elements
>
> We substituted the planar, silver mica capacitors 680pf into the mini 
> MRA very successfully. They mimic the piezo in an electronic circuit!
>
>
> On 10/2/2018 4:27 PM, SF [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi Mick, in other words Mica silver or Mica capacitors have the same 
>> effect as piezo materials, what is cog? Because I with low 
>> frequencies work do I need already capacities in uf area. Under Mica 
>> can I find what. Greetings Sven
>>
>> Von meinem Samsung Gerät gesendet.
>>
>>
>> -------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
>> Von: "Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
>> Datum: 02.10.18 22:14 (GMT+01:00)
>> An: [email protected]
>> Betreff: Re: AW: Re: Aw: Re: [EVGRAY] Ferroresonance amplified by 
>> piezoelectric elements
>>
>> Sven,
>>
>> Anytime one adds more capacitors Q drops as ESR increases so it works 
>> better if one can use the piezo for both functions, if possible.  
>> Many capacitors are also piezoelectric materials such as the mica and 
>> COG.  Lower frequencies do not matter as much.
>>
>>
>> On 10/2/2018 12:12 PM, SF [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Mick, so I could try in addition to the caps piezo elements for 
>>> this purpose to turn, there is there an increase of the q value or 
>>> did you only with piezo worked?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Von meinem Samsung Gerät gesendet.
>>>
>>>
>>> -------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
>>> Von: "Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
>>> Datum: 02.10.18 18:00 (GMT+01:00)
>>> An: [email protected]
>>> Betreff: Re: Aw: Re: [EVGRAY] Ferroresonance amplified by 
>>> piezoelectric elements
>>>
>>> Hi Sven
>>>
>>> Yes I have used the little piezo transformers and have also used 
>>> disks in a tank circuit acting as the capacitance.   On the 
>>> transformers I was able to get the most gain by using sine waves as 
>>> they like a clean signal without distortion components being of high 
>>> Q at the designed frequency. Something I need to get back to in 
>>> order to determine more facts.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/2/2018 5:37 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>> Hello Mick,
>>>>
>>>> Many thanks for the hints, unfortunately I can not find 
>>>> distribution in Germany or I have to search again.
>>>>
>>>> Have you ever included piezo elements in a reactive circuit?
>>>>
>>>> regards
>>>>
>>>> Sven
>>>> *Gesendet:* Montag, 01. Oktober 2018 um 21:01 Uhr
>>>> *Von:* "Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
>>>> *An:* [email protected]
>>>> *Betreff:* Re: [EVGRAY] Ferroresonance amplified by piezoelectric 
>>>> elements
>>>>
>>>> Sven
>>>>
>>>> Have a look here:
>>>>
>>>> http://steminc.com/
>>>>
>>>> http://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.7567/JJAP.55.086702
>>>>
>>>> On 10/1/2018 7:57 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     Hello everyone, is it possible to use resonant capacitors in
>>>>     the case of FR transformer in addition to switching piezo
>>>>     elements in parallel or do the thin elements hold over 400V?
>>>>
>>>>     The MRA of Norman works with a large piezo element,
>>>>     unfortunately I can not get something like this or I search
>>>>     wrong via google.
>>>>
>>>>     regards
>>>>
>>>>     Sven
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

http://www.rexresearch.com/hodoindx.htm   Here are the many papers by my 
friend Gregory!   I built his gravity wave detector and recorder.  
Worked great!


On 10/3/2018 5:34 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>
> http://www.rexresearch.com/1hodomra/05-5-20.htm Joel & I became great 
> friends with Greg and it was one of his Mini MRAs that tested 256X 
> over unity and was submitted to Patent Office as final affidavit!  
> Greg (RIP) was an Engineer at RCA Corp.   Sven, this is the use of 
> silver mica caps as piezo substitute!
>
>
> On 10/2/2018 5:38 PM, SF [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>> Hi Norman, I would like to try a Silva Mica capacitor as additional 
>> capacity to the mp oil filled capacitors around the q value increase 
>> if it is possible have already stable values over q 30. extraction 
>> about diodeplug, search I still a way the scrs later after the peak 
>> trigger, I think through the phase shift has the classic phase 
>> control a problem, I still think about a inductor after the ignition 
>> energy something later after supplies. Greetings Sven
>>
>>
>>
>> Von meinem Samsung Gerät gesendet.
>>
>>
>> -------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
>> Von: "Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
>> Datum: 03.10.18 00:10 (GMT+01:00)
>> An: [email protected]
>> Betreff: Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: Aw: Re: [EVGRAY] Ferroresonance 
>> amplified by piezoelectric elements
>>
>> We substituted the planar, silver mica capacitors 680pf into the mini 
>> MRA very successfully. They mimic the piezo in an electronic circuit!
>>
>>
>> On 10/2/2018 4:27 PM, SF [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Mick, in other words Mica silver or Mica capacitors have the same 
>>> effect as piezo materials, what is cog? Because I with low 
>>> frequencies work do I need already capacities in uf area. Under Mica 
>>> can I find what. Greetings Sven
>>>
>>> Von meinem Samsung Gerät gesendet.
>>>
>>>
>>> -------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
>>> Von: "Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
>>> Datum: 02.10.18 22:14 (GMT+01:00)
>>> An: [email protected]
>>> Betreff: Re: AW: Re: Aw: Re: [EVGRAY] Ferroresonance amplified by 
>>> piezoelectric elements
>>>
>>> Sven,
>>>
>>> Anytime one adds more capacitors Q drops as ESR increases so it 
>>> works better if one can use the piezo for both functions, if 
>>> possible.  Many capacitors are also piezoelectric materials such as 
>>> the mica and COG.  Lower frequencies do not matter as much.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/2/2018 12:12 PM, SF [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Mick, so I could try in addition to the caps piezo elements for 
>>>> this purpose to turn, there is there an increase of the q value or 
>>>> did you only with piezo worked?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Von meinem Samsung Gerät gesendet.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
>>>> Von: "Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
>>>> Datum: 02.10.18 18:00 (GMT+01:00)
>>>> An: [email protected]
>>>> Betreff: Re: Aw: Re: [EVGRAY] Ferroresonance amplified by 
>>>> piezoelectric elements
>>>>
>>>> Hi Sven
>>>>
>>>> Yes I have used the little piezo transformers and have also used 
>>>> disks in a tank circuit acting as the capacitance. On the 
>>>> transformers I was able to get the most gain by using sine waves as 
>>>> they like a clean signal without distortion components being of 
>>>> high Q at the designed frequency. Something I need to get back to 
>>>> in order to determine more facts.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 10/2/2018 5:37 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>> Hello Mick,
>>>>>
>>>>> Many thanks for the hints, unfortunately I can not find 
>>>>> distribution in Germany or I have to search again.
>>>>>
>>>>> Have you ever included piezo elements in a reactive circuit?
>>>>>
>>>>> regards
>>>>>
>>>>> Sven
>>>>> *Gesendet:* Montag, 01. Oktober 2018 um 21:01 Uhr
>>>>> *Von:* "Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
>>>>> *An:* [email protected]
>>>>> *Betreff:* Re: [EVGRAY] Ferroresonance amplified by piezoelectric 
>>>>> elements
>>>>>
>>>>> Sven
>>>>>
>>>>> Have a look here:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://steminc.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> http://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.7567/JJAP.55.086702
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/1/2018 7:57 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>     Hello everyone, is it possible to use resonant capacitors in
>>>>>     the case of FR transformer in addition to switching piezo
>>>>>     elements in parallel or do the thin elements hold over 400V?
>>>>>
>>>>>     The MRA of Norman works with a large piezo element,
>>>>>     unfortunately I can not get something like this or I search
>>>>>     wrong via google.
>>>>>
>>>>>     regards
>>>>>
>>>>>     Sven
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> 
>

I had a complete set of silver mics caps with values up to 1,000pf.  Yes! they are low in cap values! Main use in RF circuits for high Q.

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  On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 7:18 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       

Not yet, I have to get such a silva Mica capacitor first or more because they have very very small capacity values.

regards

Sven Gesendet: Mittwoch, 03. Oktober 2018 um 12:34 Uhr
Von: "Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
An: [email protected]
Betreff: Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: Aw: Re: [EVGRAY] Ferroresonance amplified by piezoelectric elements 
 

http://www.rexresearch.com/1hodomra/05-5-20.htm       Joel & I became great friends with Greg and it was one of his Mini MRAs that tested 256X over unity and was submitted to Patent Office as final affidavit!  Greg (RIP) was an Engineer at RCA Corp.   Sven, this is the use of silver mica caps as piezo substitute!
 On 10/2/2018 5:38 PM, SF [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
 
 
Hi Norman, I would like to try a Silva Mica capacitor as additional capacity to the mp oil filled capacitors around the q value increase if it is possible have already stable values over q 30. extraction about diodeplug, search I still a way the scrs later after the peak trigger, I think through the phase shift has the classic phase control a problem, I still think about a inductor after the ignition energy something later after supplies. Greetings Sven   Von meinem Samsung Gerät gesendet.

-------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
Von: "Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
Datum: 03.10.18 00:10 (GMT+01:00)
An: [email protected]
Betreff: Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: Aw: Re: [EVGRAY] Ferroresonance amplified by piezoelectric elements

 
 

We substituted the planar, silver mica capacitors 680pf into the mini MRA very successfully. They mimic the piezo in an electronic circuit!
 On 10/2/2018 4:27 PM, SF [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
 
 
 Hi Mick, in other words Mica silver or Mica capacitors have the same effect as piezo materials, what is cog? Because I with low frequencies work do I need already capacities in uf area. Under Mica can I find what. Greetings Sven Von meinem Samsung Gerät gesendet.

-------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
Von: "Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
Datum: 02.10.18 22:14 (GMT+01:00)
An: [email protected]
Betreff: Re: AW: Re: Aw: Re: [EVGRAY] Ferroresonance amplified by piezoelectric elements

 
 

Sven,

Anytime one adds more capacitors Q drops as ESR increases so it works better if one can use the piezo for both functions, if possible.  Many capacitors are also piezoelectric materials such as the mica and COG.  Lower frequencies do not matter as much.
 On 10/2/2018 12:12 PM, SF [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
 
 
Hi Mick, so I could try in addition to the caps piezo elements for this purpose to turn, there is there an increase of the q value or did you only with piezo worked?   Von meinem Samsung Gerät gesendet.

-------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
Von: "Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
Datum: 02.10.18 18:00 (GMT+01:00)
An: [email protected]
Betreff: Re: Aw: Re: [EVGRAY] Ferroresonance amplified by piezoelectric elements

 
 

Hi Sven

Yes I have used the little piezo transformers and have also used disks in a tank circuit acting as the capacitance.   On the transformers I was able to get the most gain by using sine waves as they like a clean signal without distortion components being of high Q at the designed frequency. Something I need to get back to in order to determine more facts.
 On 10/2/2018 5:37 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
 Hello Mick,

Many thanks for the hints, unfortunately I can not find distribution in Germany or I have to search again.

Have you ever included piezo elements in a reactive circuit?

regards

Sven Gesendet: Montag, 01. Oktober 2018 um 21:01 Uhr
Von: "Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
An: [email protected]
Betreff: Re: [EVGRAY] Ferroresonance amplified by piezoelectric elements 
 

Sven

Have a look here:

http://steminc.com/

http://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.7567/JJAP.55.086702
 On 10/1/2018 7:57 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
 
Hello everyone, is it possible to use resonant capacitors in the case of FR transformer in addition to switching piezo elements in parallel or do the thin elements hold over 400V?

The MRA of Norman works with a large piezo element, unfortunately I can not get something like this or I search wrong via google.

regards

Sven

 
 




 
 
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NormanThis is quite an interesting, and I must say, exciting tale.I am just a little sad to see that such good work still sits sputtering, and fizzing, after all these years.The patents have expired, yet these promising ideas just sit there, waiting for some blond haired prince, on a white stallion, to come, and whisk them up.
Hmmm? How about a hoard of baby boomed, geriatric toothless gimps, giving it a try?On the surface, it seems darn easy.Could this be practical to power a hot water tank?How would one go about, doing that?Sure, it is a big leap from a tiny transformer. What if you used a great big mother of a beastly transformer? How would one tickle it into life?I suppose we are talking about a couple of kw, just guessing?OK, 220 volts 2 KW , let's say.How would you tackle such a problem?Cheers Warren
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  On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 at 6:41 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
 

http://www.rexresearch.com/1hodomra/05-5-20.htm       Joel & I became great friends with Greg and it was one of his Mini MRAs that tested 256X over unity and was submitted to Patent Office as final affidavit!  Greg (RIP) was an Engineer at RCA Corp.   Sven, this is the use of silver mica caps as piezo substitute!
 
 
 On 10/2/2018 5:38 PM, SF [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
 
 Hi Norman, I would like to try a Silva Mica capacitor as additional capacity to the mp oil filled capacitors around the q value increase if it is possible have already stable values over q 30. extraction about diodeplug, search I still a way the scrs later after the peak trigger, I think through the phase shift has the classic phase control a problem, I still think about a inductor after the ignition energy something later after supplies. Greetings Sven 
  
  
   Von meinem Samsung Gerät gesendet.  
 
 -------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
 Von: "Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> 
 Datum: 03.10.18 00:10 (GMT+01:00) 
 An: [email protected] 
 Betreff: Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: Aw: Re: [EVGRAY] Ferroresonance amplified by piezoelectric elements 
 
    
 
 
We substituted the planar, silver mica capacitors 680pf into the mini MRA very successfully. They mimic the piezo in an electronic circuit!
 
 
 On 10/2/2018 4:27 PM, SF [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
 
 
  Hi Mick, in other words Mica silver or Mica capacitors have the same effect as piezo materials, what is cog? Because I with low frequencies work do I need already capacities in uf area. Under Mica can I find what. Greetings Sven 
   Von meinem Samsung Gerät gesendet.  
 
 -------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
 Von: "Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> 
 Datum: 02.10.18 22:14 (GMT+01:00) 
 An: [email protected] 
 Betreff: Re: AW: Re: Aw: Re: [EVGRAY] Ferroresonance amplified by piezoelectric elements 
 
    
 
 
Sven,
 
Anytime one adds more capacitors Q drops as ESR increases so it works better if one can use the piezo for both functions, if possible.  Many capacitors are also piezoelectric materials such as the mica and COG.  Lower frequencies do not matter as much.
 
 
 On 10/2/2018 12:12 PM, SF [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
 
 Hi Mick, so I could try in addition to the caps piezo elements for this purpose to turn, there is there an increase of the q value or did you only with piezo worked? 
  
  
   Von meinem Samsung Gerät gesendet.  
 
 -------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
 Von: "Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> 
 Datum: 02.10.18 18:00 (GMT+01:00) 
 An: [email protected] 
 Betreff: Re: Aw: Re: [EVGRAY] Ferroresonance amplified by piezoelectric elements 
 
    
 
 
Hi Sven
 
Yes I have used the little piezo transformers and have also used disks in a tank circuit acting as the capacitance.   On the transformers I was able to get the most gain by using sine waves as they like a clean signal without distortion components being of high Q at the designed frequency. Something I need to get back to in order to  determine more facts.
 
 
 On 10/2/2018 5:37 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
     Hello Mick,
 
 Many thanks for the hints, unfortunately I can not find distribution in Germany or I have to search again.
 
 Have you ever included piezo elements in a reactive circuit?
 
 regards
 
 Sven    Gesendet: Montag, 01. Oktober 2018 um 21:01 Uhr
 Von: "Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
 An: [email protected]
 Betreff: Re: [EVGRAY] Ferroresonance amplified by piezoelectric elements       
 
 
Sven
 
Have a look here:
 
http://steminc.com/
 
http://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.7567/JJAP.55.086702
   On 10/1/2018 7:57 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote: 
   
Hello everyone, is it possible to use resonant capacitors in the case of FR  transformer in addition to switching piezo elements in parallel or  do the thin elements hold over 400V?
 
 The MRA of Norman works with a large piezo element, unfortunately I can not get  something like this or I search wrong via google.
 
 regards
 
 Sven
  
   
 
           
 
   
 
   
 
   
 
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SvenWho collects electronic junk in Germany? You need to get to know where stuff that is surplus,  goes, and who has it. Learn their names, and visit them often. I am sure you have these weird eccentric guys, there in Germany, too, like we have in Canada. It may be a group of fringe ham radio hobbiests, or just equipment freaks.In my film work, we always need what we called electronic "gorp": stuff that looked complex, and had shadow catching details, useful for background fill in science fiction films.Oh those electrical panels in space stations always seem to catch fire, being as they seem, full of 1950's era obsolete military, industrial garbage.That is how I scored my high voltage, high amperage silver/ mica capacitor, from the dross of pallets of this kind of thing.Once you contact one guy, that person will know more people to send you to.Get in your car and start driving, visiting guys in person.Cheers WarrenSent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 at 8:18 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       

Not yet, I have to get such a silva Mica capacitor first or more because they have very very small capacity values.

regards

Sven Gesendet: Mittwoch, 03. Oktober 2018 um 12:34 Uhr
Von: "Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
An: [email protected]
Betreff: Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: Aw: Re: [EVGRAY] Ferroresonance amplified by piezoelectric elements 
 

http://www.rexresearch.com/1hodomra/05-5-20.htm       Joel & I became great friends with Greg and it was one of his Mini MRAs that tested 256X over unity and was submitted to Patent Office as final affidavit!  Greg (RIP) was an Engineer at RCA Corp.   Sven, this is the use of silver mica caps as piezo substitute!
 On 10/2/2018 5:38 PM, SF [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
 
 
Hi Norman, I would like to try a Silva Mica capacitor as additional capacity to the mp oil filled capacitors around the q value increase if it is possible have already stable values over q 30. extraction about diodeplug, search I still a way the scrs later after the peak trigger, I think through the phase shift has the classic phase control a problem, I still think about a inductor after the ignition energy something later after supplies. Greetings Sven   Von meinem Samsung Gerät gesendet.

-------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
Von: "Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
Datum: 03.10.18 00:10 (GMT+01:00)
An: [email protected]
Betreff: Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: Aw: Re: [EVGRAY] Ferroresonance amplified by piezoelectric elements

 
 

We substituted the planar, silver mica capacitors 680pf into the mini MRA very successfully. They mimic the piezo in an electronic circuit!
 On 10/2/2018 4:27 PM, SF [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
 
 
 Hi Mick, in other words Mica silver or Mica capacitors have the same effect as piezo materials, what is cog? Because I with low frequencies work do I need already capacities in uf area. Under Mica can I find what. Greetings Sven Von meinem Samsung Gerät gesendet.

-------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
Von: "Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
Datum: 02.10.18 22:14 (GMT+01:00)
An: [email protected]
Betreff: Re: AW: Re: Aw: Re: [EVGRAY] Ferroresonance amplified by piezoelectric elements

 
 

Sven,

Anytime one adds more capacitors Q drops as ESR increases so it works better if one can use the piezo for both functions, if possible.  Many capacitors are also piezoelectric materials such as the mica and COG.  Lower frequencies do not matter as much.
 On 10/2/2018 12:12 PM, SF [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
 
 
Hi Mick, so I could try in addition to the caps piezo elements for this purpose to turn, there is there an increase of the q value or did you only with piezo worked?   Von meinem Samsung Gerät gesendet.

-------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
Von: "Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
Datum: 02.10.18 18:00 (GMT+01:00)
An: [email protected]
Betreff: Re: Aw: Re: [EVGRAY] Ferroresonance amplified by piezoelectric elements

 
 

Hi Sven

Yes I have used the little piezo transformers and have also used disks in a tank circuit acting as the capacitance.   On the transformers I was able to get the most gain by using sine waves as they like a clean signal without distortion components being of high Q at the designed frequency. Something I need to get back to in order to determine more facts.
 On 10/2/2018 5:37 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
 Hello Mick,

Many thanks for the hints, unfortunately I can not find distribution in Germany or I have to search again.

Have you ever included piezo elements in a reactive circuit?

regards

Sven Gesendet: Montag, 01. Oktober 2018 um 21:01 Uhr
Von: "Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
An: [email protected]
Betreff: Re: [EVGRAY] Ferroresonance amplified by piezoelectric elements 
 

Sven

Have a look here:

http://steminc.com/

http://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.7567/JJAP.55.086702
 On 10/1/2018 7:57 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
 
Hello everyone, is it possible to use resonant capacitors in the case of FR transformer in addition to switching piezo elements in parallel or do the thin elements hold over 400V?

The MRA of Norman works with a large piezo element, unfortunately I can not get something like this or I search wrong via google.

regards

Sven

 
 




 
 
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Warren!  The problem that we experienced with the strange extraction of 
anomalous energy from the aether was in our unsuccessful attempts at 
make the circuits self power.  Tom Bearden, personally, in a face to 
face conversation stated that it was not possible.  Sparky Sweet in his 
testimony said it was not possible to interface the anomaly with 
conventional power.    Your idea as to making hot water has merit, for 
we powered DC motors and powered light bulbs (incandescent) with the 
output. Yes!  You can dissipate the energy via a load resistor.

You mentioned Tickling it into life, Ultra high Q in a series resonant 
circuit is the answer.

https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/textbook/alternating-current/chpt-6/q-and-bandwidth-resonant-circuit/

/At resonance the series resonant circuit appears purely resistive. 
Below resonance it looks capacitive. Above resonance it appears inductive.
/

/We found that you have to extract this energy just to the right side of 
the resonance peak which is ever so slightly on the inductive side of 
the peak but in the still in the lossless region of the peak!  A good 
scope will allow you to establish this relationship in your circuit!  It 
is possible to achieve Q values up to 200.
/

On 10/3/2018 9:33 AM, Warren Keillor [email protected] 
[EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Norman
>
> This is quite an interesting, and I must say, exciting tale.
> I am just a little sad to see that such good work still sits 
> sputtering, and fizzing, after all these years.
> The patents have expired, yet these promising ideas just sit there, 
> waiting for some blond haired prince, on a white stallion, to come, 
> and whisk them up.
> Hmmm? How about a hoard of baby boomed, geriatric toothless gimps, 
> giving it a try?
> On the surface, it seems darn easy.
> Could this be practical to power a hot water tank?
> How would one go about, doing that?
> Sure, it is a big leap from a tiny transformer. What if you used a 
> great big mother of a beastly transformer? How would one tickle it 
> into life?
> I suppose we are talking about a couple of kw, just guessing?
> OK, 220 volts 2 KW , let's say.
> How would you tackle such a problem?
> Cheers Warren
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>
>     On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 at 6:41 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]
>     <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>     http://www.rexresearch.com/1hodomra/05-5-20.htm Joel & I became
>     great friends with Greg and it was one of his Mini MRAs that
>     tested 256X over unity and was submitted to Patent Office as final
>     affidavit!  Greg (RIP) was an Engineer at RCA Corp.   Sven, this
>     is the use of silver mica caps as piezo substitute!
>
>
>     On 10/2/2018 5:38 PM, SF [email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>>     Hi Norman, I would like to try a Silva Mica capacitor as
>>     additional capacity to the mp oil filled capacitors around the q
>>     value increase if it is possible have already stable values over
>>     q 30. extraction about diodeplug, search I still a way the scrs
>>     later after the peak trigger, I think through the phase shift has
>>     the classic phase control a problem, I still think about a
>>     inductor after the ignition energy something later after
>>     supplies. Greetings Sven
>>
>>
>>
>>     Von meinem Samsung Gerät gesendet.
>>
>>
>>     -------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
>>     Von: "Norman Wootan [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>     [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>     Datum: 03.10.18 00:10 (GMT+01:00)
>>     An: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>     Betreff: Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: Aw: Re: [EVGRAY] Ferroresonance
>>     amplified by piezoelectric elements
>>
>>     We substituted the planar, silver mica capacitors 680pf into the
>>     mini MRA very successfully. They mimic the piezo in an electronic
>>     circuit!
>>
>>
>>     On 10/2/2018 4:27 PM, SF [email protected]
>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>     Hi Mick, in other words Mica silver or Mica capacitors have the
>>>     same effect as piezo materials, what is cog? Because I with low
>>>     frequencies work do I need already capacities in uf area. Under
>>>     Mica can I find what. Greetings Sven
>>>
>>>     Von meinem Samsung Gerät gesendet.
>>>
>>>
>>>     -------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
>>>     Von: "Mick [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>     [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>     Datum: 02.10.18 22:14 (GMT+01:00)
>>>     An: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>     Betreff: Re: AW: Re: Aw: Re: [EVGRAY] Ferroresonance amplified
>>>     by piezoelectric elements
>>>
>>>     Sven,
>>>
>>>     Anytime one adds more capacitors Q drops as ESR increases so it
>>>     works better if one can use the piezo for both functions, if
>>>     possible.  Many capacitors are also piezoelectric materials such
>>>     as the mica and COG.  Lower frequencies do not matter as much.
>>>
>>>
>>>     On 10/2/2018 12:12 PM, SF [email protected]
>>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     Hi Mick, so I could try in addition to the caps piezo elements
>>>>     for this purpose to turn, there is there an increase of the q
>>>>     value or did you only with piezo worked?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     Von meinem Samsung Gerät gesendet.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     -------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
>>>>     Von: "Mick [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>     [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>     Datum: 02.10.18 18:00 (GMT+01:00)
>>>>     An: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>     Betreff: Re: Aw: Re: [EVGRAY] Ferroresonance amplified by
>>>>     piezoelectric elements
>>>>
>>>>     Hi Sven
>>>>
>>>>     Yes I have used the little piezo transformers and have also
>>>>     used disks in a tank circuit acting as the capacitance.   On
>>>>     the transformers I was able to get the most gain by using sine
>>>>     waves as they like a clean signal without distortion components
>>>>     being of high Q at the designed frequency. Something I need to
>>>>     get back to in order to determine more facts.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     On 10/2/2018 5:37 AM, [email protected]
>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>     Hello Mick,
>>>>>
>>>>>     Many thanks for the hints, unfortunately I can not find
>>>>>     distribution in Germany or I have to search again.
>>>>>
>>>>>     Have you ever included piezo elements in a reactive circuit?
>>>>>
>>>>>     regards
>>>>>
>>>>>     Sven
>>>>>     *Gesendet:* Montag, 01. Oktober 2018 um 21:01 Uhr
>>>>>     *Von:* "Mick [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>     [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>     *An:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>     *Betreff:* Re: [EVGRAY] Ferroresonance amplified by
>>>>>     piezoelectric elements
>>>>>
>>>>>     Sven
>>>>>
>>>>>     Have a look here:
>>>>>
>>>>>     http://steminc.com/
>>>>>
>>>>>     http://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.7567/JJAP.55.086702
>>>>>
>>>>>     On 10/1/2018 7:57 AM, [email protected]
>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>         Hello everyone, is it possible to use resonant capacitors
>>>>>         in the case of FR transformer in addition to switching
>>>>>         piezo elements in parallel or do the thin elements hold
>>>>>         over 400V?
>>>>>
>>>>>         The MRA of Norman works with a large piezo element,
>>>>>         unfortunately I can not get something like this or I
>>>>>         search wrong via google.
>>>>>
>>>>>         regards
>>>>>
>>>>>         Sven
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q_factor       Resonance 101, go back and 
understand the fundamentals!


On 10/5/2018 7:47 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>
> Warren!  The problem that we experienced with the strange extraction 
> of anomalous energy from the aether was in our unsuccessful attempts 
> at make the circuits self power.  Tom Bearden, personally, in a face 
> to face conversation stated that it was not possible.  Sparky Sweet in 
> his testimony said it was not possible to interface the anomaly with 
> conventional power.    Your idea as to making hot water has merit, for 
> we powered DC motors and powered light bulbs (incandescent) with the 
> output. Yes!  You can dissipate the energy via a load resistor.
>
> You mentioned Tickling it into life, Ultra high Q in a series resonant 
> circuit is the answer.
>
> https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/textbook/alternating-current/chpt-6/q-and-bandwidth-resonant-circuit/
>
> /At resonance the series resonant circuit appears purely resistive. 
> Below resonance it looks capacitive. Above resonance it appears 
> inductive.
> /
>
> /We found that you have to extract this energy just to the right side 
> of the resonance peak which is ever so slightly on the inductive side 
> of the peak but in the still in the lossless region of the peak!  A 
> good scope will allow you to establish this relationship in your 
> circuit!  It is possible to achieve Q values up to 200.
> /
>
> On 10/3/2018 9:33 AM, Warren Keillor [email protected] 
> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>> Norman
>>
>> This is quite an interesting, and I must say, exciting tale.
>> I am just a little sad to see that such good work still sits 
>> sputtering, and fizzing, after all these years.
>> The patents have expired, yet these promising ideas just sit there, 
>> waiting for some blond haired prince, on a white stallion, to come, 
>> and whisk them up.
>> Hmmm? How about a hoard of baby boomed, geriatric toothless gimps, 
>> giving it a try?
>> On the surface, it seems darn easy.
>> Could this be practical to power a hot water tank?
>> How would one go about, doing that?
>> Sure, it is a big leap from a tiny transformer. What if you used a 
>> great big mother of a beastly transformer? How would one tickle it 
>> into life?
>> I suppose we are talking about a couple of kw, just guessing?
>> OK, 220 volts 2 KW , let's say.
>> How would you tackle such a problem?
>> Cheers Warren
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
>> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>>
>>     On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 at 6:41 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]
>>     <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>     http://www.rexresearch.com/1hodomra/05-5-20.htm Joel & I became
>>     great friends with Greg and it was one of his Mini MRAs that
>>     tested 256X over unity and was submitted to Patent Office as
>>     final affidavit!  Greg (RIP) was an Engineer at RCA Corp.   Sven,
>>     this is the use of silver mica caps as piezo substitute!
>>
>>
>>     On 10/2/2018 5:38 PM, SF [email protected]
>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>>     Hi Norman, I would like to try a Silva Mica capacitor as
>>>     additional capacity to the mp oil filled capacitors around the q
>>>     value increase if it is possible have already stable values over
>>>     q 30. extraction about diodeplug, search I still a way the scrs
>>>     later after the peak trigger, I think through the phase shift
>>>     has the classic phase control a problem, I still think about a
>>>     inductor after the ignition energy something later after
>>>     supplies. Greetings Sven
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>     Von meinem Samsung Gerät gesendet.
>>>
>>>
>>>     -------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
>>>     Von: "Norman Wootan [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>     [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>     Datum: 03.10.18 00:10 (GMT+01:00)
>>>     An: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>     Betreff: Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: Aw: Re: [EVGRAY] Ferroresonance
>>>     amplified by piezoelectric elements
>>>
>>>     We substituted the planar, silver mica capacitors 680pf into the
>>>     mini MRA very successfully. They mimic the piezo in an
>>>     electronic circuit!
>>>
>>>
>>>     On 10/2/2018 4:27 PM, SF [email protected]
>>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     Hi Mick, in other words Mica silver or Mica capacitors have the
>>>>     same effect as piezo materials, what is cog? Because I with low
>>>>     frequencies work do I need already capacities in uf area. Under
>>>>     Mica can I find what. Greetings Sven
>>>>
>>>>     Von meinem Samsung Gerät gesendet.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     -------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
>>>>     Von: "Mick [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>     [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>     Datum: 02.10.18 22:14 (GMT+01:00)
>>>>     An: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>     Betreff: Re: AW: Re: Aw: Re: [EVGRAY] Ferroresonance amplified
>>>>     by piezoelectric elements
>>>>
>>>>     Sven,
>>>>
>>>>     Anytime one adds more capacitors Q drops as ESR increases so it
>>>>     works better if one can use the piezo for both functions, if
>>>>     possible.  Many capacitors are also piezoelectric materials
>>>>     such as the mica and COG. Lower frequencies do not matter as much.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     On 10/2/2018 12:12 PM, SF [email protected]
>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>     Hi Mick, so I could try in addition to the caps piezo elements
>>>>>     for this purpose to turn, there is there an increase of the q
>>>>>     value or did you only with piezo worked?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     Von meinem Samsung Gerät gesendet.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     -------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
>>>>>     Von: "Mick [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>     [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>     Datum: 02.10.18 18:00 (GMT+01:00)
>>>>>     An: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>     Betreff: Re: Aw: Re: [EVGRAY] Ferroresonance amplified by
>>>>>     piezoelectric elements
>>>>>
>>>>>     Hi Sven
>>>>>
>>>>>     Yes I have used the little piezo transformers and have also
>>>>>     used disks in a tank circuit acting as the capacitance.   On
>>>>>     the transformers I was able to get the most gain by using sine
>>>>>     waves as they like a clean signal without distortion
>>>>>     components being of high Q at the designed frequency.
>>>>>     Something I need to get back to in order to determine more facts.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     On 10/2/2018 5:37 AM, [email protected]
>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>     Hello Mick,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Many thanks for the hints, unfortunately I can not find
>>>>>>     distribution in Germany or I have to search again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Have you ever included piezo elements in a reactive circuit?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Sven
>>>>>>     *Gesendet:* Montag, 01. Oktober 2018 um 21:01 Uhr
>>>>>>     *Von:* "Mick [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>     [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>     *An:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>     *Betreff:* Re: [EVGRAY] Ferroresonance amplified by
>>>>>>     piezoelectric elements
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Sven
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Have a look here:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     http://steminc.com/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     http://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.7567/JJAP.55.086702
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     On 10/1/2018 7:57 AM, [email protected]
>>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Hello everyone, is it possible to use resonant capacitors
>>>>>>         in the case of FR transformer in addition to switching
>>>>>>         piezo elements in parallel or do the thin elements hold
>>>>>>         over 400V?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         The MRA of Norman works with a large piezo element,
>>>>>>         unfortunately I can not get something like this or I
>>>>>>         search wrong via google.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Sven
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> 
>

http://www.amasci.com/tesla/tesceive.html   Warren, this is right down 
your alley, from Bill Beaty!

Also,  http://www.redwaveradio.com/11_98fda952415da282_1.htm

http://www.ittc.ku.edu/~callen/active_antennas/Sutton1994USP5311198.pdf

http://www.ittc.ku.edu/~callen/active_antennas/Sutton1994USP5296866.pdf


On 10/5/2018 7:47 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>
> Warren!  The problem that we experienced with the strange extraction 
> of anomalous energy from the aether was in our unsuccessful attempts 
> at make the circuits self power.  Tom Bearden, personally, in a face 
> to face conversation stated that it was not possible.  Sparky Sweet in 
> his testimony said it was not possible to interface the anomaly with 
> conventional power.    Your idea as to making hot water has merit, for 
> we powered DC motors and powered light bulbs (incandescent) with the 
> output. Yes!  You can dissipate the energy via a load resistor.
>
> You mentioned Tickling it into life, Ultra high Q in a series resonant 
> circuit is the answer.
>
> https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/textbook/alternating-current/chpt-6/q-and-bandwidth-resonant-circuit/
>
> /At resonance the series resonant circuit appears purely resistive. 
> Below resonance it looks capacitive. Above resonance it appears 
> inductive.
> /
>
> /We found that you have to extract this energy just to the right side 
> of the resonance peak which is ever so slightly on the inductive side 
> of the peak but in the still in the lossless region of the peak!  A 
> good scope will allow you to establish this relationship in your 
> circuit!  It is possible to achieve Q values up to 200.
> /
>
> On 10/3/2018 9:33 AM, Warren Keillor [email protected] 
> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>> Norman
>>
>> This is quite an interesting, and I must say, exciting tale.
>> I am just a little sad to see that such good work still sits 
>> sputtering, and fizzing, after all these years.
>> The patents have expired, yet these promising ideas just sit there, 
>> waiting for some blond haired prince, on a white stallion, to come, 
>> and whisk them up.
>> Hmmm? How about a hoard of baby boomed, geriatric toothless gimps, 
>> giving it a try?
>> On the surface, it seems darn easy.
>> Could this be practical to power a hot water tank?
>> How would one go about, doing that?
>> Sure, it is a big leap from a tiny transformer. What if you used a 
>> great big mother of a beastly transformer? How would one tickle it 
>> into life?
>> I suppose we are talking about a couple of kw, just guessing?
>> OK, 220 volts 2 KW , let's say.
>> How would you tackle such a problem?
>> Cheers Warren
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
>> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>>
>>     On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 at 6:41 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]
>>     <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>     http://www.rexresearch.com/1hodomra/05-5-20.htm Joel & I became
>>     great friends with Greg and it was one of his Mini MRAs that
>>     tested 256X over unity and was submitted to Patent Office as
>>     final affidavit!  Greg (RIP) was an Engineer at RCA Corp.   Sven,
>>     this is the use of silver mica caps as piezo substitute!
>>
>>
>>     On 10/2/2018 5:38 PM, SF [email protected]
>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>>     Hi Norman, I would like to try a Silva Mica capacitor as
>>>     additional capacity to the mp oil filled capacitors around the q
>>>     value increase if it is possible have already stable values over
>>>     q 30. extraction about diodeplug, search I still a way the scrs
>>>     later after the peak trigger, I think through the phase shift
>>>     has the classic phase control a problem, I still think about a
>>>     inductor after the ignition energy something later after
>>>     supplies. Greetings Sven
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>     Von meinem Samsung Gerät gesendet.
>>>
>>>
>>>     -------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
>>>     Von: "Norman Wootan [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>     [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>     Datum: 03.10.18 00:10 (GMT+01:00)
>>>     An: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>     Betreff: Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: Aw: Re: [EVGRAY] Ferroresonance
>>>     amplified by piezoelectric elements
>>>
>>>     We substituted the planar, silver mica capacitors 680pf into the
>>>     mini MRA very successfully. They mimic the piezo in an
>>>     electronic circuit!
>>>
>>>
>>>     On 10/2/2018 4:27 PM, SF [email protected]
>>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     Hi Mick, in other words Mica silver or Mica capacitors have the
>>>>     same effect as piezo materials, what is cog? Because I with low
>>>>     frequencies work do I need already capacities in uf area. Under
>>>>     Mica can I find what. Greetings Sven
>>>>
>>>>     Von meinem Samsung Gerät gesendet.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     -------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
>>>>     Von: "Mick [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>     [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>     Datum: 02.10.18 22:14 (GMT+01:00)
>>>>     An: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>     Betreff: Re: AW: Re: Aw: Re: [EVGRAY] Ferroresonance amplified
>>>>     by piezoelectric elements
>>>>
>>>>     Sven,
>>>>
>>>>     Anytime one adds more capacitors Q drops as ESR increases so it
>>>>     works better if one can use the piezo for both functions, if
>>>>     possible.  Many capacitors are also piezoelectric materials
>>>>     such as the mica and COG. Lower frequencies do not matter as much.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     On 10/2/2018 12:12 PM, SF [email protected]
>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>     Hi Mick, so I could try in addition to the caps piezo elements
>>>>>     for this purpose to turn, there is there an increase of the q
>>>>>     value or did you only with piezo worked?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     Von meinem Samsung Gerät gesendet.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     -------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
>>>>>     Von: "Mick [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>     [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>     Datum: 02.10.18 18:00 (GMT+01:00)
>>>>>     An: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>     Betreff: Re: Aw: Re: [EVGRAY] Ferroresonance amplified by
>>>>>     piezoelectric elements
>>>>>
>>>>>     Hi Sven
>>>>>
>>>>>     Yes I have used the little piezo transformers and have also
>>>>>     used disks in a tank circuit acting as the capacitance.   On
>>>>>     the transformers I was able to get the most gain by using sine
>>>>>     waves as they like a clean signal without distortion
>>>>>     components being of high Q at the designed frequency.
>>>>>     Something I need to get back to in order to determine more facts.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     On 10/2/2018 5:37 AM, [email protected]
>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>     Hello Mick,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Many thanks for the hints, unfortunately I can not find
>>>>>>     distribution in Germany or I have to search again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Have you ever included piezo elements in a reactive circuit?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Sven
>>>>>>     *Gesendet:* Montag, 01. Oktober 2018 um 21:01 Uhr
>>>>>>     *Von:* "Mick [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>     [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>     *An:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>     *Betreff:* Re: [EVGRAY] Ferroresonance amplified by
>>>>>>     piezoelectric elements
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Sven
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Have a look here:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     http://steminc.com/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     http://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.7567/JJAP.55.086702
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     On 10/1/2018 7:57 AM, [email protected]
>>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Hello everyone, is it possible to use resonant capacitors
>>>>>>         in the case of FR transformer in addition to switching
>>>>>>         piezo elements in parallel or do the thin elements hold
>>>>>>         over 400V?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         The MRA of Norman works with a large piezo element,
>>>>>>         unfortunately I can not get something like this or I
>>>>>>         search wrong via google.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Sven
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> 
>

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/7373133.html   The idea of the Blcak 
Hole antennae is being incorporated into chip circuits to recharge devices!


On 10/5/2018 8:10 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>
> http://www.amasci.com/tesla/tesceive.html Warren, this is right down 
> your alley, from Bill Beaty!
>
> Also, http://www.redwaveradio.com/11_98fda952415da282_1.htm
>
> http://www.ittc.ku.edu/~callen/active_antennas/Sutton1994USP5311198.pdf
>
> http://www.ittc.ku.edu/~callen/active_antennas/Sutton1994USP5296866.pdf
>
>
> On 10/5/2018 7:47 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>
>> Warren!  The problem that we experienced with the strange extraction 
>> of anomalous energy from the aether was in our unsuccessful attempts 
>> at make the circuits self power.  Tom Bearden, personally, in a face 
>> to face conversation stated that it was not possible.  Sparky Sweet 
>> in his testimony said it was not possible to interface the anomaly 
>> with conventional power.    Your idea as to making hot water has 
>> merit, for we powered DC motors and powered light bulbs 
>> (incandescent) with the output. Yes!  You can dissipate the energy 
>> via a load resistor.
>>
>> You mentioned Tickling it into life, Ultra high Q in a series 
>> resonant circuit is the answer.
>>
>> https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/textbook/alternating-current/chpt-6/q-and-bandwidth-resonant-circuit/
>>
>> /At resonance the series resonant circuit appears purely resistive. 
>> Below resonance it looks capacitive. Above resonance it appears 
>> inductive.
>> /
>>
>> /We found that you have to extract this energy just to the right side 
>> of the resonance peak which is ever so slightly on the inductive side 
>> of the peak but in the still in the lossless region of the peak!  A 
>> good scope will allow you to establish this relationship in your 
>> circuit!  It is possible to achieve Q values up to 200.
>> /
>>
>> On 10/3/2018 9:33 AM, Warren Keillor [email protected] 
>> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>> Norman
>>>
>>> This is quite an interesting, and I must say, exciting tale.
>>> I am just a little sad to see that such good work still sits 
>>> sputtering, and fizzing, after all these years.
>>> The patents have expired, yet these promising ideas just sit there, 
>>> waiting for some blond haired prince, on a white stallion, to come, 
>>> and whisk them up.
>>> Hmmm? How about a hoard of baby boomed, geriatric toothless gimps, 
>>> giving it a try?
>>> On the surface, it seems darn easy.
>>> Could this be practical to power a hot water tank?
>>> How would one go about, doing that?
>>> Sure, it is a big leap from a tiny transformer. What if you used a 
>>> great big mother of a beastly transformer? How would one tickle it 
>>> into life?
>>> I suppose we are talking about a couple of kw, just guessing?
>>> OK, 220 volts 2 KW , let's say.
>>> How would you tackle such a problem?
>>> Cheers Warren
>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
>>> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>>>
>>>     On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 at 6:41 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected]
>>>     [EVGRAY]
>>>     <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>     http://www.rexresearch.com/1hodomra/05-5-20.htm Joel & I became
>>>     great friends with Greg and it was one of his Mini MRAs that
>>>     tested 256X over unity and was submitted to Patent Office as
>>>     final affidavit!  Greg (RIP) was an Engineer at RCA Corp.  
>>>     Sven, this is the use of silver mica caps as piezo substitute!
>>>
>>>
>>>     On 10/2/2018 5:38 PM, SF [email protected]
>>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     Hi Norman, I would like to try a Silva Mica capacitor as
>>>>     additional capacity to the mp oil filled capacitors around the
>>>>     q value increase if it is possible have already stable values
>>>>     over q 30. extraction about diodeplug, search I still a way the
>>>>     scrs later after the peak trigger, I think through the phase
>>>>     shift has the classic phase control a problem, I still think
>>>>     about a inductor after the ignition energy something later
>>>>     after supplies. Greetings Sven
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     Von meinem Samsung Gerät gesendet.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     -------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
>>>>     Von: "Norman Wootan [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>     [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>     Datum: 03.10.18 00:10 (GMT+01:00)
>>>>     An: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>     Betreff: Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: Aw: Re: [EVGRAY] Ferroresonance
>>>>     amplified by piezoelectric elements
>>>>
>>>>     We substituted the planar, silver mica capacitors 680pf into
>>>>     the mini MRA very successfully. They mimic the piezo in an
>>>>     electronic circuit!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     On 10/2/2018 4:27 PM, SF [email protected]
>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     Hi Mick, in other words Mica silver or Mica capacitors have
>>>>>     the same effect as piezo materials, what is cog? Because I
>>>>>     with low frequencies work do I need already capacities in uf
>>>>>     area. Under Mica can I find what. Greetings Sven
>>>>>
>>>>>     Von meinem Samsung Gerät gesendet.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     -------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
>>>>>     Von: "Mick [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>     [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>     Datum: 02.10.18 22:14 (GMT+01:00)
>>>>>     An: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>     Betreff: Re: AW: Re: Aw: Re: [EVGRAY] Ferroresonance amplified
>>>>>     by piezoelectric elements
>>>>>
>>>>>     Sven,
>>>>>
>>>>>     Anytime one adds more capacitors Q drops as ESR increases so
>>>>>     it works better if one can use the piezo for both functions,
>>>>>     if possible. Many capacitors are also piezoelectric materials
>>>>>     such as the mica and COG.  Lower frequencies do not matter as
>>>>>     much.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     On 10/2/2018 12:12 PM, SF [email protected]
>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Hi Mick, so I could try in addition to the caps piezo
>>>>>>     elements for this purpose to turn, there is there an increase
>>>>>>     of the q value or did you only with piezo worked?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Von meinem Samsung Gerät gesendet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     -------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
>>>>>>     Von: "Mick [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>     [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>     Datum: 02.10.18 18:00 (GMT+01:00)
>>>>>>     An: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>     Betreff: Re: Aw: Re: [EVGRAY] Ferroresonance amplified by
>>>>>>     piezoelectric elements
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Hi Sven
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Yes I have used the little piezo transformers and have also
>>>>>>     used disks in a tank circuit acting as the capacitance. On
>>>>>>     the transformers I was able to get the most gain by using
>>>>>>     sine waves as they like a clean signal without distortion
>>>>>>     components being of high Q at the designed frequency.
>>>>>>     Something I need to get back to in order to determine more facts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     On 10/2/2018 5:37 AM, [email protected]
>>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>     Hello Mick,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Many thanks for the hints, unfortunately I can not find
>>>>>>>     distribution in Germany or I have to search again.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Have you ever included piezo elements in a reactive circuit?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     regards
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Sven
>>>>>>>     *Gesendet:* Montag, 01. Oktober 2018 um 21:01 Uhr
>>>>>>>     *Von:* "Mick [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>>     [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>>     *An:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>>     *Betreff:* Re: [EVGRAY] Ferroresonance amplified by
>>>>>>>     piezoelectric elements
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Sven
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Have a look here:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     http://steminc.com/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     http://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.7567/JJAP.55.086702
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     On 10/1/2018 7:57 AM, [email protected]
>>>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         Hello everyone, is it possible to use resonant
>>>>>>>         capacitors in the case of FR transformer in addition to
>>>>>>>         switching piezo elements in parallel or do the thin
>>>>>>>         elements hold over 400V?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         The MRA of Norman works with a large piezo element,
>>>>>>>         unfortunately I can not get something like this or I
>>>>>>>         search wrong via google.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         regards
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         Sven
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>
>

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/8681465.html   Interesting concepts 
here !  They work!!


On 10/5/2018 8:12 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>
> http://www.freepatentsonline.com/7373133.html The idea of the Blcak 
> Hole antennae is being incorporated into chip circuits to recharge 
> devices!
>
>
> On 10/5/2018 8:10 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>
>> http://www.amasci.com/tesla/tesceive.html Warren, this is right down 
>> your alley, from Bill Beaty!
>>
>> Also, http://www.redwaveradio.com/11_98fda952415da282_1.htm
>>
>> http://www.ittc.ku.edu/~callen/active_antennas/Sutton1994USP5311198.pdf
>>
>> http://www.ittc.ku.edu/~callen/active_antennas/Sutton1994USP5296866.pdf
>>
>>
>> On 10/5/2018 7:47 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>
>>> Warren!  The problem that we experienced with the strange extraction 
>>> of anomalous energy from the aether was in our unsuccessful attempts 
>>> at make the circuits self power.  Tom Bearden, personally, in a face 
>>> to face conversation stated that it was not possible.  Sparky Sweet 
>>> in his testimony said it was not possible to interface the anomaly 
>>> with conventional power.    Your idea as to making hot water has 
>>> merit, for we powered DC motors and powered light bulbs 
>>> (incandescent) with the output. Yes!  You can dissipate the energy 
>>> via a load resistor.
>>>
>>> You mentioned Tickling it into life, Ultra high Q in a series 
>>> resonant circuit is the answer.
>>>
>>> https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/textbook/alternating-current/chpt-6/q-and-bandwidth-resonant-circuit/
>>>
>>> /At resonance the series resonant circuit appears purely resistive. 
>>> Below resonance it looks capacitive. Above resonance it appears 
>>> inductive.
>>> /
>>>
>>> /We found that you have to extract this energy just to the right 
>>> side of the resonance peak which is ever so slightly on the 
>>> inductive side of the peak but in the still in the lossless region 
>>> of the peak!  A good scope will allow you to establish this 
>>> relationship in your circuit!  It is possible to achieve Q values up 
>>> to 200.
>>> /
>>>
>>> On 10/3/2018 9:33 AM, Warren Keillor [email protected] 
>>> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Norman
>>>>
>>>> This is quite an interesting, and I must say, exciting tale.
>>>> I am just a little sad to see that such good work still sits 
>>>> sputtering, and fizzing, after all these years.
>>>> The patents have expired, yet these promising ideas just sit there, 
>>>> waiting for some blond haired prince, on a white stallion, to come, 
>>>> and whisk them up.
>>>> Hmmm? How about a hoard of baby boomed, geriatric toothless gimps, 
>>>> giving it a try?
>>>> On the surface, it seems darn easy.
>>>> Could this be practical to power a hot water tank?
>>>> How would one go about, doing that?
>>>> Sure, it is a big leap from a tiny transformer. What if you used a 
>>>> great big mother of a beastly transformer? How would one tickle it 
>>>> into life?
>>>> I suppose we are talking about a couple of kw, just guessing?
>>>> OK, 220 volts 2 KW , let's say.
>>>> How would you tackle such a problem?
>>>> Cheers Warren
>>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
>>>> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>>>>
>>>>     On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 at 6:41 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected]
>>>>     [EVGRAY]
>>>>     <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     http://www.rexresearch.com/1hodomra/05-5-20.htm Joel & I became
>>>>     great friends with Greg and it was one of his Mini MRAs that
>>>>     tested 256X over unity and was submitted to Patent Office as
>>>>     final affidavit!  Greg (RIP) was an Engineer at RCA Corp.  
>>>>     Sven, this is the use of silver mica caps as piezo substitute!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     On 10/2/2018 5:38 PM, SF [email protected]
>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>     Hi Norman, I would like to try a Silva Mica capacitor as
>>>>>     additional capacity to the mp oil filled capacitors around the
>>>>>     q value increase if it is possible have already stable values
>>>>>     over q 30. extraction about diodeplug, search I still a way
>>>>>     the scrs later after the peak trigger, I think through the
>>>>>     phase shift has the classic phase control a problem, I still
>>>>>     think about a inductor after the ignition energy something
>>>>>     later after supplies. Greetings Sven
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     Von meinem Samsung Gerät gesendet.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     -------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
>>>>>     Von: "Norman Wootan [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>     [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>     Datum: 03.10.18 00:10 (GMT+01:00)
>>>>>     An: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>     Betreff: Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: Aw: Re: [EVGRAY] Ferroresonance
>>>>>     amplified by piezoelectric elements
>>>>>
>>>>>     We substituted the planar, silver mica capacitors 680pf into
>>>>>     the mini MRA very successfully. They mimic the piezo in an
>>>>>     electronic circuit!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     On 10/2/2018 4:27 PM, SF [email protected]
>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Hi Mick, in other words Mica silver or Mica capacitors have
>>>>>>     the same effect as piezo materials, what is cog? Because I
>>>>>>     with low frequencies work do I need already capacities in uf
>>>>>>     area. Under Mica can I find what. Greetings Sven
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Von meinem Samsung Gerät gesendet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     -------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
>>>>>>     Von: "Mick [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>     [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>     Datum: 02.10.18 22:14 (GMT+01:00)
>>>>>>     An: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>     Betreff: Re: AW: Re: Aw: Re: [EVGRAY] Ferroresonance
>>>>>>     amplified by piezoelectric elements
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Sven,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Anytime one adds more capacitors Q drops as ESR increases so
>>>>>>     it works better if one can use the piezo for both functions,
>>>>>>     if possible.  Many capacitors are also piezoelectric
>>>>>>     materials such as the mica and COG.  Lower frequencies do not
>>>>>>     matter as much.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     On 10/2/2018 12:12 PM, SF [email protected]
>>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Hi Mick, so I could try in addition to the caps piezo
>>>>>>>     elements for this purpose to turn, there is there an
>>>>>>>     increase of the q value or did you only with piezo worked?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Von meinem Samsung Gerät gesendet.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     -------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
>>>>>>>     Von: "Mick [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>>     [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>>     Datum: 02.10.18 18:00 (GMT+01:00)
>>>>>>>     An: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>>     Betreff: Re: Aw: Re: [EVGRAY] Ferroresonance amplified by
>>>>>>>     piezoelectric elements
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Hi Sven
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Yes I have used the little piezo transformers and have also
>>>>>>>     used disks in a tank circuit acting as the capacitance. On
>>>>>>>     the transformers I was able to get the most gain by using
>>>>>>>     sine waves as they like a clean signal without distortion
>>>>>>>     components being of high Q at the designed frequency.
>>>>>>>     Something I need to get back to in order to determine more
>>>>>>>     facts.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     On 10/2/2018 5:37 AM, [email protected]
>>>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>     Hello Mick,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Many thanks for the hints, unfortunately I can not find
>>>>>>>>     distribution in Germany or I have to search again.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Have you ever included piezo elements in a reactive circuit?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     regards
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Sven
>>>>>>>>     *Gesendet:* Montag, 01. Oktober 2018 um 21:01 Uhr
>>>>>>>>     *Von:* "Mick [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>     [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>     *An:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>     *Betreff:* Re: [EVGRAY] Ferroresonance amplified by
>>>>>>>>     piezoelectric elements
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Sven
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Have a look here:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     http://steminc.com/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     http://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.7567/JJAP.55.086702
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     On 10/1/2018 7:57 AM, [email protected]
>>>>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         Hello everyone, is it possible to use resonant
>>>>>>>>         capacitors in the case of FR transformer in addition to
>>>>>>>>         switching piezo elements in parallel or do the thin
>>>>>>>>         elements hold over 400V?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         The MRA of Norman works with a large piezo element,
>>>>>>>>         unfortunately I can not get something like this or I
>>>>>>>>         search wrong via google.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         regards
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         Sven
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>
>>
>

Warren,

In the electric grid are devices to dynamically adjust reactive power
just like one is performing with the RV cap box and switches.  These are
called thyristor switched capacitors and thyristor controlled reactors. 
We should take some circuit design cues from the brilliant engineers who
design the grid and transmission lines.

If one looks into these designs there will be apparent similarities to
many of the circuits discussed here!


On 10/5/2018 7:09 AM, Warren Keillor [email protected]
[EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> Norman
>
> I suspect that you are entirely correct.
> Steve, my electrical engineer friend, made sure I had a good working
> scope, to apply to the problem.
> Bedini, and I, agreed that the solution involves using several
> concepts together, to make practical self runners, to harvest energy.
> Much like, all the ways in mechanics, that we have to achieve certain
> results, not all of them at an advantage, yet in the final outcome, it
> can be a smooth running machine.
> Here we are splitting up time, and using select parts of that time.
> It seems, as fond as I am for things mechanical, that this is where
> computers really shine.
> Thet can cut time into very tiny chunks, very precisely, with
> attention to some other moving variable, like frequency, with ease,
> opening and closing switches, at speeds beyond human perception.
> The grunt work in the trenches, is getting switches that can stand the
> speed stress, to be reliable.
> All of us are dealing with discrete components, as this is all new
> prototyping. It is the only way I know, of debugging stuff. Look for
> the smoke, or the dud component.
> Hector brought up a very important point. Components don't measure out
> the same even if they have the same numbers. My experience with
> manufacturers found about 17% of custom chips are junk right from the
> boards you cut them out from, out of the plant. Then with the rest,
> you have to test, and debug them, ending up with a small set that
> actually work in your application.
> This seems to happen across the industry. These things are difficult
> to make, and a lot of people are involved in trying to improve the
> product.
> That doesn't mean the dross, or less than perfect components are
> garbage, it just means they are a bit wonky, and are sold retail, to
> guys like us. We just have to measure everything, in any way we can.
> Keep up your excellent work Norman. Mankind, is the beneficiary.
> Cheers Warren
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>
>     On Fri, 5 Oct 2018 at 8:47 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]
>     <[email protected]> wrote:
>      
>
>     Warren!  The problem that we experienced with the strange
>     extraction of anomalous energy from the aether was in our
>     unsuccessful attempts at make the circuits self power.  Tom
>     Bearden, personally, in a face to face conversation stated that it
>     was not possible.  Sparky Sweet in his testimony said it was not
>     possible to interface the anomaly with conventional power.    Your
>     idea as to making hot water has merit, for we powered DC motors
>     and powered light bulbs (incandescent) with the output. Yes!  You
>     can dissipate the energy via a load resistor.
>
>     You mentioned Tickling it into life, Ultra high Q in a series
>     resonant circuit is the answer. 
>
>     https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/textbook/alternating-current/chpt-6/q-and-bandwidth-resonant-circuit/
>
>     /At resonance the series resonant circuit appears purely
>     resistive. Below resonance it looks capacitive. Above resonance it
>     appears inductive.
>     /
>
>     /We found that you have to extract this energy just to the right
>     side of the resonance peak which is ever so slightly on the
>     inductive side of the peak but in the still in the lossless region
>     of the peak!  A good scope will allow you to establish this
>     relationship in your circuit!  It is possible to achieve Q values
>     up to 200. 
>     /
>
>     On 10/3/2018 9:33 AM, Warren Keillor [email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>      
>>
>>     Norman
>>
>>     This is quite an interesting, and I must say, exciting tale.
>>     I am just a little sad to see that such good work still sits
>>     sputtering, and fizzing, after all these years.
>>     The patents have expired, yet these promising ideas just sit
>>     there, waiting for some blond haired prince, on a white stallion,
>>     to come, and whisk them up.
>>     Hmmm? How about a hoard of baby boomed, geriatric toothless
>>     gimps, giving it a try?
>>     On the surface, it seems darn easy.
>>     Could this be practical to power a hot water tank?
>>     How would one go about, doing that?
>>     Sure, it is a big leap from a tiny transformer. What if you used
>>     a great big mother of a beastly transformer? How would one tickle
>>     it into life?
>>     I suppose we are talking about a couple of kw, just guessing?
>>     OK, 220 volts 2 KW , let's say.
>>     How would you tackle such a problem?
>>     Cheers Warren
>>     Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>     <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>>
>>         On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 at 6:41 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected]
>>         <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]
>>         <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>          
>>
>>         http://www.rexresearch.com/1hodomra/05-5-20.htm       Joel &
>>         I became great friends with Greg and it was one of his Mini
>>         MRAs that tested 256X over unity and was submitted to Patent
>>         Office as final affidavit!  Greg (RIP) was an Engineer at RCA
>>         Corp.   Sven, this is the use of silver mica caps as piezo
>>         substitute!
>>
>>
>>         On 10/2/2018 5:38 PM, SF [email protected]
>>         <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>          
>>>
>>>         Hi Norman, I would like to try a Silva Mica capacitor as
>>>         additional capacity to the mp oil filled capacitors around
>>>         the q value increase if it is possible have already stable
>>>         values over q 30. extraction about diodeplug, search I still
>>>         a way the scrs later after the peak trigger, I think through
>>>         the phase shift has the classic phase control a problem, I
>>>         still think about a inductor after the ignition energy
>>>         something later after supplies. Greetings Sven
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         Von meinem Samsung Gerät gesendet.
>>>
>>>
>>>         -------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
>>>         Von: "Norman Wootan [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>         [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
>>>         <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>         Datum: 03.10.18 00:10 (GMT+01:00)
>>>         An: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>         Betreff: Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: Aw: Re: [EVGRAY] Ferroresonance
>>>         amplified by piezoelectric elements
>>>
>>>          
>>>
>>>         We substituted the planar, silver mica capacitors 680pf into
>>>         the mini MRA very successfully. They mimic the piezo in an
>>>         electronic circuit!
>>>
>>>
>>>         On 10/2/2018 4:27 PM, SF [email protected]
>>>         <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>          
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         Hi Mick, in other words Mica silver or Mica capacitors have
>>>>         the same effect as piezo materials, what is cog? Because I
>>>>         with low frequencies work do I need already capacities in
>>>>         uf area. Under Mica can I find what. Greetings Sven
>>>>
>>>>         Von meinem Samsung Gerät gesendet.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         -------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
>>>>         Von: "Mick [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>         [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>         Datum: 02.10.18 22:14 (GMT+01:00)
>>>>         An: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>         Betreff: Re: AW: Re: Aw: Re: [EVGRAY] Ferroresonance
>>>>         amplified by piezoelectric elements
>>>>
>>>>          
>>>>
>>>>         Sven,
>>>>
>>>>         Anytime one adds more capacitors Q drops as ESR increases
>>>>         so it works better if one can use the piezo for both
>>>>         functions, if possible.  Many capacitors are also
>>>>         piezoelectric materials such as the mica and COG.  Lower
>>>>         frequencies do not matter as much.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         On 10/2/2018 12:12 PM, SF [email protected]
>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>         Hi Mick, so I could try in addition to the caps piezo
>>>>>         elements for this purpose to turn, there is there an
>>>>>         increase of the q value or did you only with piezo worked?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>         Von meinem Samsung Gerät gesendet.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>         -------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
>>>>>         Von: "Mick [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>         [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
>>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>         Datum: 02.10.18 18:00 (GMT+01:00)
>>>>>         An: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>         Betreff: Re: Aw: Re: [EVGRAY] Ferroresonance amplified by
>>>>>         piezoelectric elements
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>         Hi Sven
>>>>>
>>>>>         Yes I have used the little piezo transformers and have
>>>>>         also used disks in a tank circuit acting as the
>>>>>         capacitance.   On the transformers I was able to get the
>>>>>         most gain by using sine waves as they like a clean signal
>>>>>         without distortion components being of high Q at the
>>>>>         designed frequency. Something I need to get back to in
>>>>>         order to determine more facts.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>         On 10/2/2018 5:37 AM, [email protected]
>>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>          
>>>>>>         Hello Mick,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Many thanks for the hints, unfortunately I can not find
>>>>>>         distribution in Germany or I have to search again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Have you ever included piezo elements in a reactive circuit?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Sven
>>>>>>          
>>>>>>         *Gesendet:* Montag, 01. Oktober 2018 um 21:01 Uhr
>>>>>>         *Von:* "Mick [email protected]
>>>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]"
>>>>>>         <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>         *An:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>         *Betreff:* Re: [EVGRAY] Ferroresonance amplified by
>>>>>>         piezoelectric elements
>>>>>>          
>>>>>>
>>>>>>          
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Sven
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Have a look here:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         http://steminc.com/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         http://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.7567/JJAP.55.086702
>>>>>>
>>>>>>          
>>>>>>         On 10/1/2018 7:57 AM, [email protected]
>>>>>>         <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>              
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             Hello everyone, is it possible to use resonant
>>>>>>             capacitors in the case of FR transformer in addition
>>>>>>             to switching piezo elements in parallel or do the
>>>>>>             thin elements hold over 400V?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             The MRA of Norman works with a large piezo element,
>>>>>>             unfortunately I can not get something like this or I
>>>>>>             search wrong via google.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             Sven
>>>>>>
>>>>>>          
>>>>>>
>>>>>>          
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

Norm,

Fascinating

Using a shorted coil/tank as a B field repeater to increase H locally, I
like!


On 10/5/2018 6:16 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> http://www.freepatentsonline.com/8681465.html   Interesting concepts
> here !  They work!!
>
>
> On 10/5/2018 8:12 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>
>> http://www.freepatentsonline.com/7373133.html   The idea of the Blcak
>> Hole antennae is being incorporated into chip circuits to recharge
>> devices!
>>
>>
>> On 10/5/2018 8:10 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>
>>> http://www.amasci.com/tesla/tesceive.html   Warren, this is right
>>> down your alley, from Bill Beaty!
>>>
>>> Also,  http://www.redwaveradio.com/11_98fda952415da282_1.htm
>>>
>>> http://www.ittc.ku.edu/~callen/active_antennas/Sutton1994USP5311198.pdf
>>>
>>> http://www.ittc.ku.edu/~callen/active_antennas/Sutton1994USP5296866.pdf
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/5/2018 7:47 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Warren!  The problem that we experienced with the strange
>>>> extraction of anomalous energy from the aether was in our
>>>> unsuccessful attempts at make the circuits self power.  Tom
>>>> Bearden, personally, in a face to face conversation stated that it
>>>> was not possible.  Sparky Sweet in his testimony said it was not
>>>> possible to interface the anomaly with conventional power.    Your
>>>> idea as to making hot water has merit, for we powered DC motors and
>>>> powered light bulbs (incandescent) with the output. Yes!  You can
>>>> dissipate the energy via a load resistor.
>>>>
>>>> You mentioned Tickling it into life, Ultra high Q in a series
>>>> resonant circuit is the answer. 
>>>>
>>>> https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/textbook/alternating-current/chpt-6/q-and-bandwidth-resonant-circuit/
>>>>
>>>> /At resonance the series resonant circuit appears purely resistive.
>>>> Below resonance it looks capacitive. Above resonance it appears
>>>> inductive.
>>>> /
>>>>
>>>> /We found that you have to extract this energy just to the right
>>>> side of the resonance peak which is ever so slightly on the
>>>> inductive side of the peak but in the still in the lossless region
>>>> of the peak!  A good scope will allow you to establish this
>>>> relationship in your circuit!  It is possible to achieve Q values
>>>> up to 200. 
>>>> /
>>>>
>>>> On 10/3/2018 9:33 AM, Warren Keillor [email protected]
>>>> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>> Norman
>>>>>
>>>>> This is quite an interesting, and I must say, exciting tale.
>>>>> I am just a little sad to see that such good work still sits
>>>>> sputtering, and fizzing, after all these years.
>>>>> The patents have expired, yet these promising ideas just sit
>>>>> there, waiting for some blond haired prince, on a white stallion,
>>>>> to come, and whisk them up.
>>>>> Hmmm? How about a hoard of baby boomed, geriatric toothless gimps,
>>>>> giving it a try?
>>>>> On the surface, it seems darn easy.
>>>>> Could this be practical to power a hot water tank?
>>>>> How would one go about, doing that?
>>>>> Sure, it is a big leap from a tiny transformer. What if you used a
>>>>> great big mother of a beastly transformer? How would one tickle it
>>>>> into life?
>>>>> I suppose we are talking about a couple of kw, just guessing?
>>>>> OK, 220 volts 2 KW , let's say.
>>>>> How would you tackle such a problem?
>>>>> Cheers Warren
>>>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>>>> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>>>>>
>>>>>     On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 at 6:41 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected]
>>>>>     [EVGRAY]
>>>>>     <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>      
>>>>>
>>>>>     http://www.rexresearch.com/1hodomra/05-5-20.htm       Joel & I
>>>>>     became great friends with Greg and it was one of his Mini MRAs
>>>>>     that tested 256X over unity and was submitted to Patent Office
>>>>>     as final affidavit!  Greg (RIP) was an Engineer at RCA Corp.  
>>>>>     Sven, this is the use of silver mica caps as piezo substitute!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     On 10/2/2018 5:38 PM, SF [email protected]
>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>      
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Hi Norman, I would like to try a Silva Mica capacitor as
>>>>>>     additional capacity to the mp oil filled capacitors around
>>>>>>     the q value increase if it is possible have already stable
>>>>>>     values over q 30. extraction about diodeplug, search I still
>>>>>>     a way the scrs later after the peak trigger, I think through
>>>>>>     the phase shift has the classic phase control a problem, I
>>>>>>     still think about a inductor after the ignition energy
>>>>>>     something later after supplies. Greetings Sven
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Von meinem Samsung Gerät gesendet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     -------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
>>>>>>     Von: "Norman Wootan [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>     [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>     Datum: 03.10.18 00:10 (GMT+01:00)
>>>>>>     An: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>     Betreff: Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: Aw: Re: [EVGRAY] Ferroresonance
>>>>>>     amplified by piezoelectric elements
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     We substituted the planar, silver mica capacitors 680pf into
>>>>>>     the mini MRA very successfully. They mimic the piezo in an
>>>>>>     electronic circuit!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     On 10/2/2018 4:27 PM, SF [email protected]
>>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Hi Mick, in other words Mica silver or Mica capacitors have
>>>>>>>     the same effect as piezo materials, what is cog? Because I
>>>>>>>     with low frequencies work do I need already capacities in uf
>>>>>>>     area. Under Mica can I find what. Greetings Sven
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Von meinem Samsung Gerät gesendet.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     -------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
>>>>>>>     Von: "Mick [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>>     [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>>     Datum: 02.10.18 22:14 (GMT+01:00)
>>>>>>>     An: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>>     Betreff: Re: AW: Re: Aw: Re: [EVGRAY] Ferroresonance
>>>>>>>     amplified by piezoelectric elements
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Sven,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Anytime one adds more capacitors Q drops as ESR increases so
>>>>>>>     it works better if one can use the piezo for both functions,
>>>>>>>     if possible.  Many capacitors are also piezoelectric
>>>>>>>     materials such as the mica and COG.  Lower frequencies do
>>>>>>>     not matter as much.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     On 10/2/2018 12:12 PM, SF [email protected]
>>>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Hi Mick, so I could try in addition to the caps piezo
>>>>>>>>     elements for this purpose to turn, there is there an
>>>>>>>>     increase of the q value or did you only with piezo worked?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Von meinem Samsung Gerät gesendet.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     -------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
>>>>>>>>     Von: "Mick [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>     [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>     Datum: 02.10.18 18:00 (GMT+01:00)
>>>>>>>>     An: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>     Betreff: Re: Aw: Re: [EVGRAY] Ferroresonance amplified by
>>>>>>>>     piezoelectric elements
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Hi Sven
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Yes I have used the little piezo transformers and have also
>>>>>>>>     used disks in a tank circuit acting as the capacitance.  
>>>>>>>>     On the transformers I was able to get the most gain by
>>>>>>>>     using sine waves as they like a clean signal without
>>>>>>>>     distortion components being of high Q at the designed
>>>>>>>>     frequency. Something I need to get back to in order to
>>>>>>>>     determine more facts.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     On 10/2/2018 5:37 AM, [email protected]
>>>>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>>>     Hello Mick,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     Many thanks for the hints, unfortunately I can not find
>>>>>>>>>     distribution in Germany or I have to search again.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     Have you ever included piezo elements in a reactive circuit?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     regards
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     Sven
>>>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>>>     *Gesendet:* Montag, 01. Oktober 2018 um 21:01 Uhr
>>>>>>>>>     *Von:* "Mick [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY]"
>>>>>>>>>     <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>     *An:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>     *Betreff:* Re: [EVGRAY] Ferroresonance amplified by
>>>>>>>>>     piezoelectric elements
>>>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     Sven
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     Have a look here:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     http://steminc.com/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     http://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.7567/JJAP.55.086702
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>>>     On 10/1/2018 7:57 AM, [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>          
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         Hello everyone, is it possible to use resonant
>>>>>>>>>         capacitors in the case of FR transformer in addition
>>>>>>>>>         to switching piezo elements in parallel or do the thin
>>>>>>>>>         elements hold over 400V?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         The MRA of Norman works with a large piezo element,
>>>>>>>>>         unfortunately I can not get something like this or I
>>>>>>>>>         search wrong via google.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         regards
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         Sven
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

RV explains how , Brian prater did as many others did with what i released 

the latest looper had to face a fact .....

OK this works then it means the rest of the things Hector told us are true ??! 

WTF ! ??!!!!   SHIT !!!!! we are fucked! 

well? first collateral effect !  ( Divorce ! )

not the first not the last! 

white tantra required ! 

(H) 






---In [email protected], <nwootan@...> wrote :

 Warren!  The problem that we experienced with the strange extraction of anomalous energy from the aether was in our unsuccessful attempts at make the circuits self power.  Tom Bearden, personally, in a face to face conversation stated that it was not possible.  Sparky Sweet in his testimony said it was not possible to interface the anomaly with conventional power.    Your idea as to making hot water has merit, for we powered DC motors and powered light bulbs (incandescent) with the output. Yes!  You can dissipate the energy via a load resistor.
 You mentioned Tickling it into life, Ultra high Q in a series resonant circuit is the answer.  
 
 https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/textbook/alternating-current/chpt-6/q-and-bandwidth-resonant-circuit/ https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/textbook/alternating-current/chpt-6/q-and-bandwidth-resonant-circuit/
 
 At resonance the series resonant circuit appears purely resistive. Below resonance it looks capacitive. Above resonance it appears inductive. 
 
 We found that you have to extract this energy just to the right side of the resonance peak which is ever so slightly on the inductive side of the peak but in the still in the lossless region of the peak!  A good scope will allow you to establish this relationship in your circuit!  It is possible to achieve Q values up to 200.  
 
 On 10/3/2018 9:33 AM, Warren Keillor schoonersolsticemoon@... mailto:schoonersolsticemoon@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
 
   Norman
 This is quite an interesting, and I must say, exciting tale.
 I am just a little sad to see that such good work still sits sputtering, and fizzing, after all these years.
 The patents have expired, yet these promising ideas just sit there, waiting for some blond haired prince, on a white stallion, to come, and whisk them up.
 Hmmm? How about a hoard of baby boomed, geriatric toothless gimps, giving it a try?
 On the surface, it seems darn easy.
 Could this be practical to power a hot water tank?
 How would one go about, doing that?
 Sure, it is a big leap from a tiny transformer. What if you used a great big mother of a beastly transformer? How would one tickle it into life?
 I suppose we are talking about a couple of kw, just guessing?
 OK, 220 volts 2 KW , let's say.
 How would you tackle such a problem?
 Cheers Warren
 Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature
 
 On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 at 6:41 AM, Norman Wootan nwootan@... mailto:nwootan@... [EVGRAY]
 <[email protected]> mailto:[email protected] wrote:
 
   
 http://www.rexresearch.com/1hodomra/05-5-20.htm http://www.rexresearch.com/1hodomra/05-5-20.htm       Joel & I became great friends with Greg and it was one of his Mini MRAs that tested 256X over unity and was submitted to Patent Office as final affidavit!  Greg (RIP) was an Engineer at RCA Corp.   Sven, this is the use of silver mica caps as piezo substitute!
 
 
 On 10/2/2018 5:38 PM, SF s.friedrich@... mailto:s.friedrich@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
 
   
 Hi Norman, I would like to try a Silva Mica capacitor as additional capacity to the mp oil filled capacitors around the q value increase if it is possible have already stable values over q 30. extraction about diodeplug, search I still a way the scrs later after the peak trigger, I think through the phase shift has the classic phase control a problem, I still think about a inductor after the ignition energy something later after supplies. Greetings Sven
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Von meinem Samsung Gerät gesendet.
 
 
 
 -------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
 Von: "Norman Wootan nwootan@... mailto:nwootan@... [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> mailto:[email protected] 
 Datum: 03.10.18 00:10 (GMT+01:00) 
 An: [email protected] mailto:[email protected] 
 Betreff: Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: Aw: Re: [EVGRAY] Ferroresonance amplified by piezoelectric elements 
 
   
 We substituted the planar, silver mica capacitors 680pf into the mini MRA very successfully. They mimic the piezo in an electronic circuit!
 
 
 On 10/2/2018 4:27 PM, SF s.friedrich@... mailto:s.friedrich@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
 
   
 
 
 Hi Mick, in other words Mica silver or Mica capacitors have the same effect as piezo materials, what is cog? Because I with low frequencies work do I need already capacities in uf area. Under Mica can I find what. Greetings Sven
 
 
 Von meinem Samsung Gerät gesendet.
 
 
 
 -------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
 Von: "Mick mkjekyll@... mailto:mkjekyll@... [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> mailto:[email protected] 
 Datum: 02.10.18 22:14 (GMT+01:00) 
 An: [email protected] mailto:[email protected] 
 Betreff: Re: AW: Re: Aw: Re: [EVGRAY] Ferroresonance amplified by piezoelectric elements 
 
   
 Sven,
 Anytime one adds more capacitors Q drops as ESR increases so it works better if one can use the piezo for both functions, if possible.  Many capacitors are also piezoelectric materials such as the mica and COG.  Lower frequencies do not matter as much.
 
 
 On 10/2/2018 12:12 PM, SF s.friedrich@... mailto:s.friedrich@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
 
   
 Hi Mick, so I could try in addition to the caps piezo elements for this purpose to turn, there is there an increase of the q value or did you only with piezo worked?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Von meinem Samsung Gerät gesendet.
 
 
 
 -------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
 Von: "Mick mkjekyll@... mailto:mkjekyll@... [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> mailto:[email protected] 
 Datum: 02.10.18 18:00 (GMT+01:00) 
 An: [email protected] mailto:[email protected] 
 Betreff: Re: Aw: Re: [EVGRAY] Ferroresonance amplified by piezoelectric elements 
 
   
 Hi Sven
 Yes I have used the little piezo transformers and have also used disks in a tank circuit acting as the capacitance.   On the transformers I was able to get the most gain by using sine waves as they like a clean signal without distortion components being of high Q at the designed frequency. Something I need to get back to in order to determine more facts.
 
 
 On 10/2/2018 5:37 AM, s.friedrich@... mailto:s.friedrich@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
 
   Hello Mick,
 
 Many thanks for the hints, unfortunately I can not find distribution in Germany or I have to search again.
 
 Have you ever included piezo elements in a reactive circuit?
 
 regards
 
 Sven   Gesendet: Montag, 01. Oktober 2018 um 21:01 Uhr
 Von: "Mick mkjekyll@... mailto:mkjekyll@... [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> mailto:[email protected]
 An: [email protected] mailto:[email protected]
 Betreff: Re: [EVGRAY] Ferroresonance amplified by piezoelectric elements
    
 Sven
 Have a look here:
 http://steminc.com/ http://steminc.com/
 http://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.7567/JJAP.55.086702 http://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.7567/JJAP.55.086702
   On 10/1/2018 7:57 AM, s.friedrich@... mailto:s.friedrich@... [EVGRAY] wrote:
   Hello everyone, is it possible to use resonant capacitors in the case of FR transformer in addition to switching piezo elements in parallel or do the thin elements hold over 400V?
 
 The MRA of Norman works with a large piezo element, unfortunately I can not get something like this or I search wrong via google.
 
 regards
 
 Sven

NormanI suspect that you are entirely correct.Steve, my electrical engineer friend, made sure I had a good working scope, to apply to the problem.Bedini, and I, agreed that the solution involves using several concepts together, to make practical self runners, to harvest energy.Much like, all the ways in mechanics, that we have to achieve certain results, not all of them at an advantage, yet in the final outcome, it can be a smooth running machine.
Here we are splitting up time, and using select parts of that time.It seems, as fond as I am for things mechanical, that this is where computers really shine.Thet can cut time into very tiny chunks, very precisely, with attention to some other moving variable, like frequency, with ease, opening and closing switches, at speeds beyond human perception.The grunt work in the trenches, is getting switches that can stand the speed stress, to be reliable.All of us are dealing with discrete components, as this is all new prototyping. It is the only way I know, of debugging stuff. Look for the smoke, or the dud component.Hector brought up a very important point. Components don't measure out the same even if they have the same numbers. My experience with manufacturers found about 17% of custom chips are junk right from the boards you cut them out from, out of the plant. Then with the rest, you have to test, and debug them, ending up with a small set that actually work in your application.This seems to happen across the industry. These things are difficult to make, and a lot of people are involved in trying to improve the product.That doesn't mean the dross, or less than perfect components are garbage, it just means they are a bit wonky, and are sold retail, to guys like us. We just have to measure everything, in any way we can.Keep up your excellent work Norman. Mankind, is the beneficiary.Cheers Warren
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  On Fri, 5 Oct 2018 at 8:47 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
 

Warren!  The problem that we experienced with the strange extraction of anomalous energy from the aether was in our unsuccessful attempts at make the circuits self power.  Tom Bearden, personally, in a face to face conversation stated that it was not possible.  Sparky Sweet in his testimony said it was not possible to interface the anomaly with conventional power.    Your idea as to making hot water has merit, for we powered DC motors and powered light bulbs (incandescent) with the output. Yes!  You can dissipate the energy via a load resistor.
 
You mentioned Tickling it into life, Ultra high Q in a series resonant circuit is the answer.  
 
 
https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/textbook/alternating-current/chpt-6/q-and-bandwidth-resonant-circuit/
 

 
At resonance the series resonant circuit appears purely resistive. Below resonance it looks capacitive. Above resonance it appears inductive. 
 
 
We found that you have to extract this energy just to the right side of the resonance peak which is ever so slightly on the inductive side of the peak but in the still in the lossless region of the peak!  A good scope will allow you to establish this relationship in your circuit!  It is possible to achieve Q values up to 200.  
 
 On 10/3/2018 9:33 AM, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
Norman
 This is quite an interesting, and I must say, exciting tale. I am just a little sad to see that such good work still sits sputtering, and fizzing, after all these years. The patents have expired, yet these promising ideas just sit there, waiting for some blond haired prince, on a white stallion, to come, and whisk them up.
 Hmmm? How about a hoard of baby boomed, geriatric toothless gimps, giving it a try? On the surface, it seems darn easy. Could this be practical to power a hot water tank? How would one go about, doing that? Sure, it is a big leap from a tiny transformer. What if you used a great big mother of a beastly transformer? How would one tickle it into life? I suppose we are talking about a couple of kw, just guessing? OK, 220 volts 2 KW , let's say. How would you tackle such a problem? Cheers Warren
 Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 at 6:41 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:          
 
 
http://www.rexresearch.com/1hodomra/05-5-20.htm       Joel & I became great friends with Greg and it was one of his Mini MRAs that tested 256X over unity and was submitted to Patent Office as final affidavit!  Greg (RIP) was an Engineer at RCA Corp.   Sven, this is the use of silver mica caps as piezo substitute!
 
 
  On 10/2/2018 5:38 PM, SF [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
 
 Hi Norman, I would like to try a Silva Mica capacitor as additional capacity to the mp oil filled capacitors around the q value increase if it is possible have already stable values over q 30.  extraction about diodeplug, search I still a way the scrs later after the peak trigger, I think through the phase shift has the classic phase control a problem, I still think  about a inductor after the ignition energy something later after supplies. Greetings Sven 
  
  
   Von meinem Samsung Gerät gesendet.  
 
 -------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
 Von: "Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> 
 Datum: 03.10.18 00:10 (GMT+01:00) 
 An: [email protected] 
 Betreff: Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: Aw: Re: [EVGRAY] Ferroresonance amplified by piezoelectric elements 
 
    
 
 
We substituted the planar, silver mica capacitors 680pf into the mini MRA very successfully. They mimic the piezo in an electronic circuit!
 
 
 On 10/2/2018 4:27 PM, SF [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
 
 
  Hi Mick, in other words Mica silver or Mica capacitors have the same effect as piezo materials, what is cog? Because I with low frequencies work do I need already  capacities in uf area. Under Mica can I find what. Greetings Sven 
   Von meinem Samsung Gerät gesendet.  
 
 -------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
 Von: "Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> 
 Datum: 02.10.18 22:14 (GMT+01:00) 
 An: [email protected] 
 Betreff: Re: AW: Re: Aw: Re: [EVGRAY] Ferroresonance amplified by piezoelectric elements 
 
    
 
 
Sven,
 
Anytime one adds more capacitors Q drops as ESR increases so it works better if one can use the piezo for both functions, if possible.  Many capacitors are also piezoelectric materials such as the mica and COG.  Lower frequencies do not matter as much.
 
 
 On 10/2/2018 12:12 PM, SF [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
 
 Hi Mick, so I could try in addition to the caps piezo elements for this purpose to turn, there is there an increase of the q value  or did you only with piezo worked? 
  
  
   Von meinem Samsung Gerät gesendet.  
 
 -------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
 Von: "Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> 
 Datum: 02.10.18 18:00 (GMT+01:00) 
 An: [email protected] 
 Betreff: Re: Aw: Re: [EVGRAY] Ferroresonance amplified by piezoelectric elements 
 
    
 
 
Hi Sven
 
Yes I have used the little piezo transformers and have also used disks in a tank circuit acting as the capacitance.   On the transformers I was able to get the most gain by using sine waves as they like a clean signal without  distortion components being of high Q at the designed frequency. Something I need to get back to in order  to determine more facts.
 
 
 On 10/2/2018 5:37 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
     Hello Mick,
 
 Many thanks for the hints, unfortunately I can not find distribution  in Germany or I have to search again.
 
 Have you ever included piezo elements in a reactive circuit?
 
 regards
 
 Sven    Gesendet: Montag, 01. Oktober 2018 um 21:01 Uhr
 Von: "Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
 An: [email protected]
 Betreff: Re: [EVGRAY] Ferroresonance amplified by piezoelectric elements       
 
 
Sven
 
Have a look here:
 
http://steminc.com/
 
http://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.7567/JJAP.55.086702
   On 10/1/2018 7:57 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote: 
   
Hello everyone, is it possible to use resonant capacitors in the case of FR  transformer in addition to switching piezo elements in parallel or  do the thin elements hold over 400V?
 
 The MRA of Norman works with a large piezo element, unfortunately  I can not get something like this or I search wrong via google.
 
 regards
 
 Sven
  
   
 
           
 
   
 
   
 
   
  
       
   
 
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NormanReading that link,  which is really pushing my understanding, makes sense of the mystery of Q.Hence, fat wire, even Russian household type, can make a high Q circuit, pulling magic out of the dark, and cold, Kapanadze replicators workshops.
Or and another way of thinking,that great big 450 lbs of heavy, three phase transformer of mine, with rectangular cross section wires, that must have taken some effort to wrap around to form a coil, might be worthy of a place in line for further study.It makes me sad sometimes, that all you great minds can't get together in one well equipped workshop, just for the pure pleasure to see what can be done.Cheers Warren 
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  On Fri, 5 Oct 2018 at 8:47 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
 

Warren!  The problem that we experienced with the strange extraction of anomalous energy from the aether was in our unsuccessful attempts at make the circuits self power.  Tom Bearden, personally, in a face to face conversation stated that it was not possible.  Sparky Sweet in his testimony said it was not possible to interface the anomaly with conventional power.    Your idea as to making hot water has merit, for we powered DC motors and powered light bulbs (incandescent) with the output. Yes!  You can dissipate the energy via a load resistor.
 
You mentioned Tickling it into life, Ultra high Q in a series resonant circuit is the answer.  
 
 
https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/textbook/alternating-current/chpt-6/q-and-bandwidth-resonant-circuit/
 

 
At resonance the series resonant circuit appears purely resistive. Below resonance it looks capacitive. Above resonance it appears inductive. 
 
 
We found that you have to extract this energy just to the right side of the resonance peak which is ever so slightly on the inductive side of the peak but in the still in the lossless region of the peak!  A good scope will allow you to establish this relationship in your circuit!  It is possible to achieve Q values up to 200.  
 
 On 10/3/2018 9:33 AM, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
Norman
 This is quite an interesting, and I must say, exciting tale. I am just a little sad to see that such good work still sits sputtering, and fizzing, after all these years. The patents have expired, yet these promising ideas just sit there, waiting for some blond haired prince, on a white stallion, to come, and whisk them up.
 Hmmm? How about a hoard of baby boomed, geriatric toothless gimps, giving it a try? On the surface, it seems darn easy. Could this be practical to power a hot water tank? How would one go about, doing that? Sure, it is a big leap from a tiny transformer. What if you used a great big mother of a beastly transformer? How would one tickle it into life? I suppose we are talking about a couple of kw, just guessing? OK, 220 volts 2 KW , let's say. How would you tackle such a problem? Cheers Warren
 Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 at 6:41 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:          
 
 
http://www.rexresearch.com/1hodomra/05-5-20.htm       Joel & I became great friends with Greg and it was one of his Mini MRAs that tested 256X over unity and was submitted to Patent Office as final affidavit!  Greg (RIP) was an Engineer at RCA Corp.   Sven, this is the use of silver mica caps as piezo substitute!
 
 
  On 10/2/2018 5:38 PM, SF [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
 
 Hi Norman, I would like to try a Silva Mica capacitor as additional capacity to the mp oil filled capacitors around the q value increase if it is possible have already stable values over q 30.  extraction about diodeplug, search I still a way the scrs later after the peak trigger, I think through the phase shift has the classic phase control a problem, I still think  about a inductor after the ignition energy something later after supplies. Greetings Sven 
  
  
   Von meinem Samsung Gerät gesendet.  
 
 -------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
 Von: "Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> 
 Datum: 03.10.18 00:10 (GMT+01:00) 
 An: [email protected] 
 Betreff: Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: Aw: Re: [EVGRAY] Ferroresonance amplified by piezoelectric elements 
 
    
 
 
We substituted the planar, silver mica capacitors 680pf into the mini MRA very successfully. They mimic the piezo in an electronic circuit!
 
 
 On 10/2/2018 4:27 PM, SF [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
 
 
  Hi Mick, in other words Mica silver or Mica capacitors have the same effect as piezo materials, what is cog? Because I with low frequencies work do I need already  capacities in uf area. Under Mica can I find what. Greetings Sven 
   Von meinem Samsung Gerät gesendet.  
 
 -------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
 Von: "Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> 
 Datum: 02.10.18 22:14 (GMT+01:00) 
 An: [email protected] 
 Betreff: Re: AW: Re: Aw: Re: [EVGRAY] Ferroresonance amplified by piezoelectric elements 
 
    
 
 
Sven,
 
Anytime one adds more capacitors Q drops as ESR increases so it works better if one can use the piezo for both functions, if possible.  Many capacitors are also piezoelectric materials such as the mica and COG.  Lower frequencies do not matter as much.
 
 
 On 10/2/2018 12:12 PM, SF [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
    
 
 Hi Mick, so I could try in addition to the caps piezo elements for this purpose to turn, there is there an increase of the q value  or did you only with piezo worked? 
  
  
   Von meinem Samsung Gerät gesendet.  
 
 -------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
 Von: "Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> 
 Datum: 02.10.18 18:00 (GMT+01:00) 
 An: [email protected] 
 Betreff: Re: Aw: Re: [EVGRAY] Ferroresonance amplified by piezoelectric elements 
 
    
 
 
Hi Sven
 
Yes I have used the little piezo transformers and have also used disks in a tank circuit acting as the capacitance.   On the transformers I was able to get the most gain by using sine waves as they like a clean signal without  distortion components being of high Q at the designed frequency. Something I need to get back to in order  to determine more facts.
 
 
 On 10/2/2018 5:37 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
     Hello Mick,
 
 Many thanks for the hints, unfortunately I can not find distribution  in Germany or I have to search again.
 
 Have you ever included piezo elements in a reactive circuit?
 
 regards
 
 Sven    Gesendet: Montag, 01. Oktober 2018 um 21:01 Uhr
 Von: "Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
 An: [email protected]
 Betreff: Re: [EVGRAY] Ferroresonance amplified by piezoelectric elements       
 
 
Sven
 
Have a look here:
 
http://steminc.com/
 
http://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.7567/JJAP.55.086702
   On 10/1/2018 7:57 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote: 
   
Hello everyone, is it possible to use resonant capacitors in the case of FR  transformer in addition to switching piezo elements in parallel or  do the thin elements hold over 400V?
 
 The MRA of Norman works with a large piezo element, unfortunately  I can not get something like this or I search wrong via google.
 
 regards
 
 Sven
  
   
 
           
 
   
 
   
 
   
  
       
   
 
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