Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: Aw: Re: [EVGRAY] Ferroresonance amplified by piezoelectric elements

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Norman Wootan <[email protected]>

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http://www.amasci.com/tesla/tesceive.html   Warren, this is right down 
your alley, from Bill Beaty!

Also,  http://www.redwaveradio.com/11_98fda952415da282_1.htm

http://www.ittc.ku.edu/~callen/active_antennas/Sutton1994USP5311198.pdf

http://www.ittc.ku.edu/~callen/active_antennas/Sutton1994USP5296866.pdf


On 10/5/2018 7:47 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>
> Warren!  The problem that we experienced with the strange extraction 
> of anomalous energy from the aether was in our unsuccessful attempts 
> at make the circuits self power.  Tom Bearden, personally, in a face 
> to face conversation stated that it was not possible.  Sparky Sweet in 
> his testimony said it was not possible to interface the anomaly with 
> conventional power.    Your idea as to making hot water has merit, for 
> we powered DC motors and powered light bulbs (incandescent) with the 
> output. Yes!  You can dissipate the energy via a load resistor.
>
> You mentioned Tickling it into life, Ultra high Q in a series resonant 
> circuit is the answer.
>
> https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/textbook/alternating-current/chpt-6/q-and-bandwidth-resonant-circuit/
>
> /At resonance the series resonant circuit appears purely resistive. 
> Below resonance it looks capacitive. Above resonance it appears 
> inductive.
> /
>
> /We found that you have to extract this energy just to the right side 
> of the resonance peak which is ever so slightly on the inductive side 
> of the peak but in the still in the lossless region of the peak!  A 
> good scope will allow you to establish this relationship in your 
> circuit!  It is possible to achieve Q values up to 200.
> /
>
> On 10/3/2018 9:33 AM, Warren Keillor [email protected] 
> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>> Norman
>>
>> This is quite an interesting, and I must say, exciting tale.
>> I am just a little sad to see that such good work still sits 
>> sputtering, and fizzing, after all these years.
>> The patents have expired, yet these promising ideas just sit there, 
>> waiting for some blond haired prince, on a white stallion, to come, 
>> and whisk them up.
>> Hmmm? How about a hoard of baby boomed, geriatric toothless gimps, 
>> giving it a try?
>> On the surface, it seems darn easy.
>> Could this be practical to power a hot water tank?
>> How would one go about, doing that?
>> Sure, it is a big leap from a tiny transformer. What if you used a 
>> great big mother of a beastly transformer? How would one tickle it 
>> into life?
>> I suppose we are talking about a couple of kw, just guessing?
>> OK, 220 volts 2 KW , let's say.
>> How would you tackle such a problem?
>> Cheers Warren
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
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>>
>>     On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 at 6:41 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]
>>     <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>     http://www.rexresearch.com/1hodomra/05-5-20.htm Joel & I became
>>     great friends with Greg and it was one of his Mini MRAs that
>>     tested 256X over unity and was submitted to Patent Office as
>>     final affidavit!  Greg (RIP) was an Engineer at RCA Corp.   Sven,
>>     this is the use of silver mica caps as piezo substitute!
>>
>>
>>     On 10/2/2018 5:38 PM, SF [email protected]
>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>>     Hi Norman, I would like to try a Silva Mica capacitor as
>>>     additional capacity to the mp oil filled capacitors around the q
>>>     value increase if it is possible have already stable values over
>>>     q 30. extraction about diodeplug, search I still a way the scrs
>>>     later after the peak trigger, I think through the phase shift
>>>     has the classic phase control a problem, I still think about a
>>>     inductor after the ignition energy something later after
>>>     supplies. Greetings Sven
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>     Von meinem Samsung Gerät gesendet.
>>>
>>>
>>>     -------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
>>>     Von: "Norman Wootan [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>     [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>     Datum: 03.10.18 00:10 (GMT+01:00)
>>>     An: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>     Betreff: Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: Aw: Re: [EVGRAY] Ferroresonance
>>>     amplified by piezoelectric elements
>>>
>>>     We substituted the planar, silver mica capacitors 680pf into the
>>>     mini MRA very successfully. They mimic the piezo in an
>>>     electronic circuit!
>>>
>>>
>>>     On 10/2/2018 4:27 PM, SF [email protected]
>>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     Hi Mick, in other words Mica silver or Mica capacitors have the
>>>>     same effect as piezo materials, what is cog? Because I with low
>>>>     frequencies work do I need already capacities in uf area. Under
>>>>     Mica can I find what. Greetings Sven
>>>>
>>>>     Von meinem Samsung Gerät gesendet.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     -------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
>>>>     Von: "Mick [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>     [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>     Datum: 02.10.18 22:14 (GMT+01:00)
>>>>     An: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>     Betreff: Re: AW: Re: Aw: Re: [EVGRAY] Ferroresonance amplified
>>>>     by piezoelectric elements
>>>>
>>>>     Sven,
>>>>
>>>>     Anytime one adds more capacitors Q drops as ESR increases so it
>>>>     works better if one can use the piezo for both functions, if
>>>>     possible.  Many capacitors are also piezoelectric materials
>>>>     such as the mica and COG. Lower frequencies do not matter as much.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     On 10/2/2018 12:12 PM, SF [email protected]
>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>     Hi Mick, so I could try in addition to the caps piezo elements
>>>>>     for this purpose to turn, there is there an increase of the q
>>>>>     value or did you only with piezo worked?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     Von meinem Samsung Gerät gesendet.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     -------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
>>>>>     Von: "Mick [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>     [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>     Datum: 02.10.18 18:00 (GMT+01:00)
>>>>>     An: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>     Betreff: Re: Aw: Re: [EVGRAY] Ferroresonance amplified by
>>>>>     piezoelectric elements
>>>>>
>>>>>     Hi Sven
>>>>>
>>>>>     Yes I have used the little piezo transformers and have also
>>>>>     used disks in a tank circuit acting as the capacitance.   On
>>>>>     the transformers I was able to get the most gain by using sine
>>>>>     waves as they like a clean signal without distortion
>>>>>     components being of high Q at the designed frequency.
>>>>>     Something I need to get back to in order to determine more facts.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     On 10/2/2018 5:37 AM, [email protected]
>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>     Hello Mick,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Many thanks for the hints, unfortunately I can not find
>>>>>>     distribution in Germany or I have to search again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Have you ever included piezo elements in a reactive circuit?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Sven
>>>>>>     *Gesendet:* Montag, 01. Oktober 2018 um 21:01 Uhr
>>>>>>     *Von:* "Mick [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>     [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>     *An:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>     *Betreff:* Re: [EVGRAY] Ferroresonance amplified by
>>>>>>     piezoelectric elements
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Sven
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Have a look here:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     http://steminc.com/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     http://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.7567/JJAP.55.086702
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     On 10/1/2018 7:57 AM, [email protected]
>>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Hello everyone, is it possible to use resonant capacitors
>>>>>>         in the case of FR transformer in addition to switching
>>>>>>         piezo elements in parallel or do the thin elements hold
>>>>>>         over 400V?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         The MRA of Norman works with a large piezo element,
>>>>>>         unfortunately I can not get something like this or I
>>>>>>         search wrong via google.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Sven
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> 
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