Re: [EVGRAY] Re: Multi-Metals

Hi John,

Great points!  If it's not too difficult can you post the invisibility
experiments you are aware of.  This of course if they are in one place
and easy to link to.

Also can you provide more info on the Stiffler battery?  I find Stiffler
very interesting and on point, he recently reappeared after many years
of hiatus due to a heart attack I think it was.

Thanks for the great post.

Mick


On 8/15/2018 9:41 PM, John Berry [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
> A bit of testing, and I can confirm that the more mass the better!
>
> So a few spots of soldier won't do much, but a block of lead, or a
> coil of iron wire is a different story!
>
> It also seems advantageous to put materials in parallel as in the
> Moray diagram, I think this creates an additional effect.
>
> I am not saying this is the only secret to Free Energy and harnessing
> of aetheric energy, Far far from it, but I think this might be the
> best hidden secret with the most potential that has been waiting to be
> seen!
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 2:51 PM John Berry <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>     I'll add a few more...
>
>     So, it seems mass means something, Louis Rota
>     (http://wikirota.org) used large masses of multiple metals.
>
>     Kapanadze used a big buried steel radiator connection to the ground.
>
>     I need to check that, but we see it again with Moray, he didn't
>     use a sample of silver, despite it's price he used a largish bar
>     of it!
>     http://www.diagrambay.today/circuit-t-henry-moray.html
>
>     A few drops of Solider is likely not enough, nor likely would many
>     smaller batteries be as suited as larger batteries, also likely
>     playes aren't as good as wires, and wires aren't as good as bars,
>     this is just speculation, I need to test these theories.
>
>     What about Joseph Newmann?  He uses small batteries?  Yes, but
>     hundreds of them, also I don't think his switches are all copper. 
>     Also his magnet is not in a closed magnetic mcircuit so it should
>     contribute.
>
>     What about John Hutchison?  Well, probably his Vandegraff and
>     Tesla coil terminals are not Copper, but moreover he has a high
>     energy bandwidth due to the different frequencies and energies he
>     provides, so he achieves it a different way.
>
>     What about Markovitch  He might have used various metals, and he
>     used a crystal, but more over he uses what I consider to be
>     another different way of doing this, you offer energy 2 or more
>     paths of different lengths, I am not sure why it works, but it
>     does work and it seems to create a similar effect.
>
>     What about the Adams motor?  This has an open magnetic circuit and
>     so it should apply.
>
>     What about Paul Pantones GEET?  It uses copper pipes and iron rod
>     and steel.
>
>     The Joe Cell does wonders when installed in cars, the energy works
>     with what is in the car which includes many different energies and
>     materials.
>
>     So... use multiple metals, more mass is better (probably), ideally
>     in series or parallel, otherwise as a cut cylinder C or a wire or
>     rod inside.
>     Also a Conical or Pancake coil...
>     Also some wires cut to a bunch of different lengths (used by
>     Keely)   Takes a few minutes to cut, does not need to be neat.
>     And some wires of different lengths (very short to long) in
>     parallel... (quicker to make if you use uninsulated wire)
>
>     Also a totally different correlation, energy like this conducting
>     along a magnetic field does something for sure, previously
>     mentioned here...
>     Also apply the negative pole of an additional otherwise
>     unconnected battery to a circuit (Ed Gray's split the positive
>     means don't connect the positive of one battery to the circuit IMO)
>
>     Also arc lamps create a wide energy bandwidth!  They create lots
>     of heat, UV-C, UV-B, UV-A, full spectrum of visible light, Radio
>     spectrum noise (RFI), Plasma/ions and chemical reactions, Bucky
>     balls are made, they make sound.   The energy from them can couple
>     into wires and other things and feedback.
>     The aetheric energy released with the conventional energy becomes
>     conditioned, and recycled...
>
>     A lot of Free Energy circuits have a portion that is isolated from
>     the ground or mains...
>
>     Finally, Free Energy ideally requires a degree of de-coupling, a
>     bridge rectifier, or loose coupling transformer or other methods
>     are good at allowing energy to be induced that is not reflected
>     back on the input as increases current draw.
>
>     If I am right, and I am personally certain that I am, then using
>     multiple metals and other methods to "increase the aetheric
>     bandwidth" will be hugely helpful, but they won't necessarily be
>     enough if aetheric energy is not working in your circuit in the
>     first place, that is easily fixed, but just thought I should
>     mention that, this is likely no harder than attaching the battery
>     as I explained and joining wire the right way.
>
>
>     On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 1:53 PM John Berry <[email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>         I have had an insight into Free Energy...
>
>         Let's start off with 2 early discoverers of Free Energy...
>
>         Both of them took multiple different metals...
>         Used them in an equal manner...
>         Buried them in the ground...
>         Connected to arc lamps...
>         Which glowed with a white light that seemed to be cold or
>         differed from conventional electricity.
>
>         I have just described both Louis Rota and Nathan Stubblefield.
>
>         Ok, let's try another...  this one didn't use earth energy and
>         didn't even use anything pretending to be electricity, but he
>         took wire made of 3 layers of 3 different metals..  And got
>         Free Energy.
>
>         You might have guessed that one, it's Keely.
>
>         Ok, how about someone who made a device that has been called
>         "Tri Metal Generator"?  That's Tesla, it used iron, Aluminium
>         and Copper, though the details besides that are sketchy... 
>          Tesla also used Aluminium in his Magnifying Transmitter
>         (Aluminium tube) and the ground employed steel in part I believe.
>         Also, if this multi metal thing is doing what I think, Conical
>         and pancake coils are an alternative or additional method.
>
>         Ok, how about another who used both a ground and an Antenna,
>         and then just happened to include a large bar of lead and a
>         bar of silver in parallel?
>         That's Moray according to one witness!    For what
>         conventional purpose??
>
>         How about 8 different claims of invisibility I have come
>         across that have employed conduction through copper and
>         steel!?   Coincidence?  Maybe more...
>
>         Coler used pancake coils, and Silver wires in parts and iron
>         rods through which current was conducted.
>
>         I can also argue that Daniel Mcfarland Cook, Hubbard, Perrigo,
>         Hendershot, Bedini all use iron in ways that differ from that
>         of the normal use, and from my tests this results in much the
>         same result as if it were included in the circuit..  One way
>         if by using a split cylinder or tube, the other is using a rod
>         or bundle of iron wires wound with a copper electromagnet, by
>         being open circuit the energy from the iron mingles with the
>         copper.
>
>         Some or all version's of Floyd Sweet's device included an
>         Aluminium Pipe or cage that is magnet and coils sat inside
>         of.  A strange details.
>
>         Carbon brushes would count...  A lot of people consider DC
>         motors to have a too high efficiency and to be prone to
>         exhibiting the characteristics to be made OU.
>         A number have also claimed carbon spark gaps have been
>         involved in OU.
>
>         Tesla Switch used a lot of very large batteries, so that
>         involves lead...
>
>         Searl used rings of different materials and rollers of
>         different materials in parallel.
>
>         Swiss ML (Paul Bauman) uses Aluminium cans and the Linden
>         experiment used iron wire (plus perspex and Copper and
>         Aluminium), we should assume iron wire is therefore used in
>         the full machine as well.
>
>         Ed Grey used a carbon block resistor...
>
>         Steven Marks used steel/iron wires.
>
>         Lakhosky's MWO might not be Free Energy, but he used a lot of
>         different diameter circles and then used different metals for
>         the different rings.
>         This suggests some force comes into play when metals or
>         materials are mixed.
>
>         Dotto's Ring reportedly levitated, and sometimes glowed, but
>         it used Copper and a segment of Constantin Alloy.
>
>         Ronald Stiffler's TMB (Thermal Magnetic Battery) despite being
>         milivolts and microamps and without an inductive load, would
>         sometimes have a fat blue 1/4 inch arc when the circuit was
>         broken, as well as responding to movement of things in the
>         area...  It passed electricity "somehow" through a Ceramic
>         magnet, though a cardboard or balsa layer, though plastic
>         film...  And it used Tin as one of the plates, as well as
>         having a magnet in series.
>
>         C.Earl Ammann used iron wire coil to power a alarm which would
>         have used copper wire.
>
>         There is a report that a steel Pyramid being welded levitated,
>         so that's steel and copper in the circuit.
>         There are other reports of welding causing things to vanish in
>         Gerry Vassalitos's books.
>
>         Stan Deyo mentioned an antigravity experiment called the
>         "Wedding cake device" as it had 3 layers of Plywood circles
>         and coils, but the coils were wound with iron wire, but
>         powered from a normal copper based power source.
>
>         My own research supports the idea that metals and used
>         correctly other materials by being used together leads to a
>         wider aetheric energy bandwidth, by making the energy
>         bandwidth involved larger, the aetheric functions begins to
>         affect to have a more dominant effect, it affects more of the
>         physical world when it's bandwidth is increased.
>
>         This is pretty compelling!
>
>         Now ask yourself, how  many unsuccessful experiments have not
>         use ample amounts of other metals besides a few drops of
>         solder or a small battery here or there?
>
>         Norm, that buzzer, wasn't Steel effectively in that circuit?
>
>         John
>
>

John!  Right on with your dissertation!   Tesla was a big advocate with 
the idea of mass.   Yes the buzzer armature was a very mild, soft  steel 
with horrible hysteresis characteristics. The Rogers underground radio 
antennae was lead pipe burried.  I Love Stubblefield.


On 8/15/2018 11:41 PM, John Berry [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
> A bit of testing, and I can confirm that the more mass the better!
>
> So a few spots of soldier won't do much, but a block of lead, or a 
> coil of iron wire is a different story!
>
> It also seems advantageous to put materials in parallel as in the 
> Moray diagram, I think this creates an additional effect.
>
> I am not saying this is the only secret to Free Energy and harnessing 
> of aetheric energy, Far far from it, but I think this might be the 
> best hidden secret with the most potential that has been waiting to be 
> seen!
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 2:51 PM John Berry <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>     I'll add a few more...
>
>     So, it seems mass means something, Louis Rota
>     (http://wikirota.org) used large masses of multiple metals.
>
>     Kapanadze used a big buried steel radiator connection to the ground.
>
>     I need to check that, but we see it again with Moray, he didn't
>     use a sample of silver, despite it's price he used a largish bar
>     of it!
>     http://www.diagrambay.today/circuit-t-henry-moray.html
>
>     A few drops of Solider is likely not enough, nor likely would many
>     smaller batteries be as suited as larger batteries, also likely
>     playes aren't as good as wires, and wires aren't as good as bars,
>     this is just speculation, I need to test these theories.
>
>     What about Joseph Newmann?  He uses small batteries?  Yes, but
>     hundreds of them, also I don't think his switches are all copper. 
>     Also his magnet is not in a closed magnetic mcircuit so it should
>     contribute.
>
>     What about John Hutchison?  Well, probably his Vandegraff and
>     Tesla coil terminals are not Copper, but moreover he has a high
>     energy bandwidth due to the different frequencies and energies he
>     provides, so he achieves it a different way.
>
>     What about Markovitch  He might have used various metals, and he
>     used a crystal, but more over he uses what I consider to be
>     another different way of doing this, you offer energy 2 or more
>     paths of different lengths, I am not sure why it works, but it
>     does work and it seems to create a similar effect.
>
>     What about the Adams motor?  This has an open magnetic circuit and
>     so it should apply.
>
>     What about Paul Pantones GEET?  It uses copper pipes and iron rod
>     and steel.
>
>     The Joe Cell does wonders when installed in cars, the energy works
>     with what is in the car which includes many different energies and
>     materials.
>
>     So... use multiple metals, more mass is better (probably), ideally
>     in series or parallel, otherwise as a cut cylinder C or a wire or
>     rod inside.
>     Also a Conical or Pancake coil...
>     Also some wires cut to a bunch of different lengths (used by
>     Keely)   Takes a few minutes to cut, does not need to be neat.
>     And some wires of different lengths (very short to long) in
>     parallel... (quicker to make if you use uninsulated wire)
>
>     Also a totally different correlation, energy like this conducting
>     along a magnetic field does something for sure, previously
>     mentioned here...
>     Also apply the negative pole of an additional otherwise
>     unconnected battery to a circuit (Ed Gray's split the positive
>     means don't connect the positive of one battery to the circuit IMO)
>
>     Also arc lamps create a wide energy bandwidth! They create lots of
>     heat, UV-C, UV-B, UV-A, full spectrum of visible light, Radio
>     spectrum noise (RFI), Plasma/ions and chemical reactions, Bucky
>     balls are made, they make sound.   The energy from them can couple
>     into wires and other things and feedback.
>     The aetheric energy released with the conventional energy becomes
>     conditioned, and recycled...
>
>     A lot of Free Energy circuits have a portion that is isolated from
>     the ground or mains...
>
>     Finally, Free Energy ideally requires a degree of de-coupling, a
>     bridge rectifier, or loose coupling transformer or other methods
>     are good at allowing energy to be induced that is not reflected
>     back on the input as increases current draw.
>
>     If I am right, and I am personally certain that I am, then using
>     multiple metals and other methods to "increase the aetheric
>     bandwidth" will be hugely helpful, but they won't necessarily be
>     enough if aetheric energy is not working in your circuit in the
>     first place, that is easily fixed, but just thought I should
>     mention that, this is likely no harder than attaching the battery
>     as I explained and joining wire the right way.
>
>
>     On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 1:53 PM John Berry <[email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>         I have had an insight into Free Energy...
>
>         Let's start off with 2 early discoverers of Free Energy...
>
>         Both of them took multiple different metals...
>         Used them in an equal manner...
>         Buried them in the ground...
>         Connected to arc lamps...
>         Which glowed with a white light that seemed to be cold or
>         differed from conventional electricity.
>
>         I have just described both Louis Rota and Nathan Stubblefield.
>
>         Ok, let's try another...  this one didn't use earth energy and
>         didn't even use anything pretending to be electricity, but he
>         took wire made of 3 layers of 3 different metals..  And got
>         Free Energy.
>
>         You might have guessed that one, it's Keely.
>
>         Ok, how about someone who made a device that has been called
>         "Tri Metal Generator"?  That's Tesla, it used iron, Aluminium
>         and Copper, though the details besides that are sketchy...
>          Tesla also used Aluminium in his Magnifying Transmitter
>         (Aluminium tube) and the ground employed steel in part I believe.
>         Also, if this multi metal thing is doing what I think, Conical
>         and pancake coils are an alternative or additional method.
>
>         Ok, how about another who used both a ground and an Antenna,
>         and then just happened to include a large bar of lead and a
>         bar of silver in parallel?
>         That's Moray according to one witness!    For what
>         conventional purpose??
>
>         How about 8 different claims of invisibility I have come
>         across that have employed conduction through copper and
>         steel!?   Coincidence?  Maybe more...
>
>         Coler used pancake coils, and Silver wires in parts and iron
>         rods through which current was conducted.
>
>         I can also argue that Daniel Mcfarland Cook, Hubbard, Perrigo,
>         Hendershot, Bedini all use iron in ways that differ from that
>         of the normal use, and from my tests this results in much the
>         same result as if it were included in the circuit.  One way if
>         by using a split cylinder or tube, the other is using a rod or
>         bundle of iron wires wound with a copper electromagnet, by
>         being open circuit the energy from the iron mingles with the
>         copper.
>
>         Some or all version's of Floyd Sweet's device included an
>         Aluminium Pipe or cage that is magnet and coils sat inside
>         of.  A strange details.
>
>         Carbon brushes would count...  A lot of people consider DC
>         motors to have a too high efficiency and to be prone to
>         exhibiting the characteristics to be made OU.
>         A number have also claimed carbon spark gaps have been
>         involved in OU.
>
>         Tesla Switch used a lot of very large batteries, so that
>         involves lead...
>
>         Searl used rings of different materials and rollers of
>         different materials in parallel.
>
>         Swiss ML (Paul Bauman) uses Aluminium cans and the Linden
>         experiment used iron wire (plus perspex and Copper and
>         Aluminium), we should assume iron wire is therefore used in
>         the full machine as well.
>
>         Ed Grey used a carbon block resistor...
>
>         Steven Marks used steel/iron wires.
>
>         Lakhosky's MWO might not be Free Energy, but he used a lot of
>         different diameter circles and then used different metals for
>         the different rings.
>         This suggests some force comes into play when metals or
>         materials are mixed.
>
>         Dotto's Ring reportedly levitated, and sometimes glowed, but
>         it used Copper and a segment of Constantin Alloy.
>
>         Ronald Stiffler's TMB (Thermal Magnetic Battery) despite being
>         milivolts and microamps and without an inductive load, would
>         sometimes have a fat blue 1/4 inch arc when the circuit was
>         broken, as well as responding to movement of things in the
>         area...  It passed electricity "somehow" through a Ceramic
>         magnet, though a cardboard or balsa layer, though plastic
>         film...  And it used Tin as one of the plates, as well as
>         having a magnet in series.
>
>         C.Earl Ammann used iron wire coil to power a alarm which would
>         have used copper wire.
>
>         There is a report that a steel Pyramid being welded levitated,
>         so that's steel and copper in the circuit.
>         There are other reports of welding causing things to vanish in
>         Gerry Vassalitos's books.
>
>         Stan Deyo mentioned an antigravity experiment called the
>         "Wedding cake device" as it had 3 layers of Plywood circles
>         and coils, but the coils were wound with iron wire, but
>         powered from a normal copper based power source.
>
>         My own research supports the idea that metals and used
>         correctly other materials by being used together leads to a
>         wider aetheric energy bandwidth, by making the energy
>         bandwidth involved larger, the aetheric functions begins to
>         affect to have a more dominant effect, it affects more of the
>         physical world when it's bandwidth is increased.
>
>         This is pretty compelling!
>
>         Now ask yourself, how  many unsuccessful experiments have not
>         use ample amounts of other metals besides a few drops of
>         solder or a small battery here or there?
>
>         Norm, that buzzer, wasn't Steel effectively in that circuit?
>
>         John
>
>

I have had an insight into Free Energy...

Let's start off with 2 early discoverers of Free Energy...

Both of them took multiple different metals...
Used them in an equal manner...
Buried them in the ground...
Connected to arc lamps...
Which glowed with a white light that seemed to be cold or differed from
conventional electricity.

I have just described both Louis Rota and Nathan Stubblefield.

Ok, let's try another...  this one didn't use earth energy and didn't even
use anything pretending to be electricity, but he took wire made of 3
layers of 3 different metals..  And got Free Energy.

You might have guessed that one, it's Keely.

Ok, how about someone who made a device that has been called "Tri Metal
Generator"?  That's Tesla, it used iron, Aluminium and Copper, though the
details besides that are sketchy...   Tesla also used Aluminium in his
Magnifying Transmitter (Aluminium tube) and the ground employed steel in
part I believe.
Also, if this multi metal thing is doing what I think, Conical and pancake
coils are an alternative or additional method.

Ok, how about another who used both a ground and an Antenna, and then just
happened to include a large bar of lead and a bar of silver in parallel?
That's Moray according to one witness!    For what conventional purpose??

How about 8 different claims of invisibility I have come across that have
employed conduction through copper and steel!?   Coincidence?  Maybe more...

Coler used pancake coils, and Silver wires in parts and iron rods through
which current was conducted.

I can also argue that Daniel Mcfarland Cook, Hubbard, Perrigo, Hendershot,
Bedini all use iron in ways that differ from that of the normal use, and
from my tests this results in much the same result as if it were included
in the circuit.  One way if by using a split cylinder or tube, the other is
using a rod or bundle of iron wires wound with a copper electromagnet, by
being open circuit the energy from the iron mingles with the copper.

Some or all version's of Floyd Sweet's device included an Aluminium Pipe or
cage that is magnet and coils sat inside of.  A strange details.

Carbon brushes would count...  A lot of people consider DC motors to have a
too high efficiency and to be prone to exhibiting the characteristics to be
made OU.
A number have also claimed carbon spark gaps have been involved in OU.

Tesla Switch used a lot of very large batteries, so that involves lead...

Searl used rings of different materials and rollers of different materials
in parallel.

Swiss ML (Paul Bauman) uses Aluminium cans and the Linden experiment used
iron wire (plus perspex and Copper and Aluminium), we should assume iron
wire is therefore used in the full machine as well.

Ed Grey used a carbon block resistor...

Steven Marks used steel/iron wires.

Lakhosky's MWO might not be Free Energy, but he used a lot of different
diameter circles and then used different metals for the different rings.
This suggests some force comes into play when metals or materials are mixed.

Dotto's Ring reportedly levitated, and sometimes glowed, but it used Copper
and a segment of Constantin Alloy.

Ronald Stiffler's TMB (Thermal Magnetic Battery) despite being milivolts
and microamps and without an inductive load, would sometimes have a fat
blue 1/4 inch arc when the circuit was broken, as well as responding to
movement of things in the area...  It passed electricity "somehow" through
a Ceramic magnet, though a cardboard or balsa layer, though plastic
film...  And it used Tin as one of the plates, as well as having a magnet
in series.

C.Earl Ammann used iron wire coil to power a alarm which would have used
copper wire.

There is a report that a steel Pyramid being welded levitated, so that's
steel and copper in the circuit.
There are other reports of welding causing things to vanish in Gerry
Vassalitos's books.

Stan Deyo mentioned an antigravity experiment called the "Wedding cake
device" as it had 3 layers of Plywood circles and coils, but the coils were
wound with iron wire, but powered from a normal copper based power source.

My own research supports the idea that metals and used correctly other
materials by being used together leads to a wider aetheric energy
bandwidth, by making the energy bandwidth involved larger, the aetheric
functions begins to affect to have a more dominant effect, it affects more
of the physical world when it's bandwidth is increased.

This is pretty compelling!

Now ask yourself, how  many unsuccessful experiments have not use ample
amounts of other metals besides a few drops of solder or a small battery
here or there?

Norm, that buzzer, wasn't Steel effectively in that circuit?

John

JohnI have found when doing my Bedini work years ago, that heavier wire coils seemed to work better than the 22 gauge most people were using. Mass seems to work.The pancake coils deserve more research, as I replace the Walmart Chinese induction stove top, with a 12 volt DC Chinese induction furnace driver.I had a 180 volt DC treadmill motor singing like a Dremel tool using wimpy gauge lsmp cord made into a pancake coil on the stove top.It worked great until the software discovered there was no pot on the burner, and a child was at play, shutting down the fun and games, for child safety, and killing my plans for a 3 hp+ dragster, running on a 5 amp battery, and inverter, using an off the shelf Walmart stove top.Cheers Warren
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  On Thu, 16 Aug 2018 at 4:42 AM, John Berry [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       

A bit of testing, and I can confirm that the more mass the better!
So a few spots of soldier won't do much, but a block of lead, or a coil of iron wire is a different story!
It also seems advantageous to put materials in parallel as in the Moray diagram, I think this creates an additional effect.
I am not saying this is the only secret to Free Energy and harnessing of aetheric energy, Far far from it, but I think this might be the best hidden secret with the most potential that has been waiting to be seen!



On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 2:51 PM John Berry <[email protected]> wrote:

I'll add a few more...
So, it seems mass means something, Louis Rota (http://wikirota.org) used large masses of multiple metals.
Kapanadze used a big buried steel radiator connection to the ground.
I need to check that, but we see it again with Moray, he didn't use a sample of silver, despite it's price he used a largish bar of it!http://www.diagrambay.today/circuit-t-henry-moray.html

A few drops of Solider is likely not enough, nor likely would many smaller batteries be as suited as larger batteries, also likely playes aren't as good as wires, and wires aren't as good as bars, this is just speculation, I need to test these theories.
What about Joseph Newmann?  He uses small batteries?  Yes, but hundreds of them, also I don't think his switches are all copper.  Also his magnet is not in a closed magnetic mcircuit so it should contribute.
What about John Hutchison?  Well, probably his Vandegraff and Tesla coil terminals are not Copper, but moreover he has a high energy bandwidth due to the different frequencies and energies he provides, so he achieves it a different way.
What about Markovitch  He might have used various metals, and he used a crystal, but more over he uses what I consider to be another different way of doing this, you offer energy 2 or more paths of different lengths, I am not sure why it works, but it does work and it seems to create a similar effect.
What about the Adams motor?  This has an open magnetic circuit and so it should apply.
What about Paul Pantones GEET?  It uses copper pipes and iron rod and steel.
The Joe Cell does wonders when installed in cars, the energy works with what is in the car which includes many different energies and materials.
So... use multiple metals, more mass is better (probably), ideally in series or parallel, otherwise as a cut cylinder C or a wire or rod inside.Also a Conical or Pancake coil...Also some wires cut to a bunch of different lengths (used by Keely)   Takes a few minutes to cut, does not need to be neat.And some wires of different lengths (very short to long) in parallel... (quicker to make if you use uninsulated wire)
Also a totally different correlation, energy like this conducting along a magnetic field does something for sure, previously mentioned here...Also apply the negative pole of an additional otherwise unconnected battery to a circuit (Ed Gray's split the positive means don't connect the positive of one battery to the circuit IMO)
Also arc lamps create a wide energy bandwidth!  They create lots of heat, UV-C, UV-B, UV-A, full spectrum of visible light, Radio spectrum noise (RFI), Plasma/ions and chemical reactions, Bucky balls are made, they make sound.   The energy from them can couple into wires and other things and feedback.The aetheric energy released with the conventional energy becomes conditioned, and recycled...
A lot of Free Energy circuits have a portion that is isolated from the ground or mains...
Finally, Free Energy ideally requires a degree of de-coupling, a bridge rectifier, or loose coupling transformer or other methods are good at allowing energy to be induced that is not reflected back on the input as increases current draw.
If I am right, and I am personally certain that I am, then using multiple metals and other methods to "increase the aetheric bandwidth" will be hugely helpful, but they won't necessarily be enough if aetheric energy is not working in your circuit in the first place, that is easily fixed, but just thought I should mention that, this is likely no harder than attaching the battery as I explained and joining wire the right way.

On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 1:53 PM John Berry <[email protected]> wrote:

I have had an insight into Free Energy...
Let's start off with 2 early discoverers of Free Energy...
Both of them took multiple different metals...Used them in an equal manner...Buried them in the ground...Connected to arc lamps...Which glowed with a white light that seemed to be cold or differed from conventional electricity.
I have just described both Louis Rota and Nathan Stubblefield.
Ok, let's try another...  this one didn't use earth energy and didn't even use anything pretending to be electricity, but he took wire made of 3 layers of 3 different metals..  And got Free Energy.
You might have guessed that one, it's Keely.
Ok, how about someone who made a device that has been called "Tri Metal Generator"?  That's Tesla, it used iron, Aluminium and Copper, though the details besides that are sketchy...   Tesla also used Aluminium in his Magnifying Transmitter (Aluminium tube) and the ground employed steel in part I believe.Also, if this multi metal thing is doing what I think, Conical and pancake coils are an alternative or additional method.
Ok, how about another who used both a ground and an Antenna, and then just happened to include a large bar of lead and a bar of silver in parallel?That's Moray according to one witness!    For what conventional purpose??
How about 8 different claims of invisibility I have come across that have employed conduction through copper and steel!?   Coincidence?  Maybe more...
Coler used pancake coils, and Silver wires in parts and iron rods through which current was conducted.
I can also argue that Daniel Mcfarland Cook, Hubbard, Perrigo, Hendershot, Bedini all use iron in ways that differ from that of the normal use, and from my tests this results in much the same result as if it were included in the circuit..  One way if by using a split cylinder or tube, the other is using a rod or bundle of iron wires wound with a copper electromagnet, by being open circuit the energy from the iron mingles with the copper.
Some or all version's of Floyd Sweet's device included an Aluminium Pipe or cage that is magnet and coils sat inside of.  A strange details.
Carbon brushes would count...  A lot of people consider DC motors to have a too high efficiency and to be prone to exhibiting the characteristics to be made OU.A number have also claimed carbon spark gaps have been involved in OU.
Tesla Switch used a lot of very large batteries, so that involves lead...
Searl used rings of different materials and rollers of different materials in parallel.
Swiss ML (Paul Bauman) uses Aluminium cans and the Linden experiment used iron wire (plus perspex and Copper and Aluminium), we should assume iron wire is therefore used in the full machine as well.
Ed Grey used a carbon block resistor...
Steven Marks used steel/iron wires.
Lakhosky's MWO might not be Free Energy, but he used a lot of different diameter circles and then used different metals for the different rings.This suggests some force comes into play when metals or materials are mixed.
Dotto's Ring reportedly levitated, and sometimes glowed, but it used Copper and a segment of Constantin Alloy.
Ronald Stiffler's TMB (Thermal Magnetic Battery) despite being milivolts and microamps and without an inductive load, would sometimes have a fat blue 1/4 inch arc when the circuit was broken, as well as responding to movement of things in the area...  It passed electricity "somehow" through a Ceramic magnet, though a cardboard or balsa layer, though plastic film...  And it used Tin as one of the plates, as well as having a magnet in series.
C.Earl Ammann used iron wire coil to power a alarm which would have used copper wire.
There is a report that a steel Pyramid being welded levitated, so that's steel and copper in the circuit.There are other reports of welding causing things to vanish in Gerry Vassalitos's books.
Stan Deyo mentioned an antigravity experiment called the "Wedding cake device" as it had 3 layers of Plywood circles and coils, but the coils were wound with iron wire, but powered from a normal copper based power source.
My own research supports the idea that metals and used correctly other materials by being used together leads to a wider aetheric energy bandwidth, by making the energy bandwidth involved larger, the aetheric functions begins to affect to have a more dominant effect, it affects more of the physical world when it's bandwidth is increased.
This is pretty compelling!
Now ask yourself, how  many unsuccessful experiments have not use ample amounts of other metals besides a few drops of solder or a small battery here or there?
Norm, that buzzer, wasn't Steel effectively in that circuit?
John

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I'll add a few more...

So, it seems mass means something, Louis Rota (http://wikirota.org) used
large masses of multiple metals.

Kapanadze used a big buried steel radiator connection to the ground.

I need to check that, but we see it again with Moray, he didn't use a
sample of silver, despite it's price he used a largish bar of it!
http://www.diagrambay.today/circuit-t-henry-moray.html

A few drops of Solider is likely not enough, nor likely would many smaller
batteries be as suited as larger batteries, also likely playes aren't as
good as wires, and wires aren't as good as bars, this is just speculation,
I need to test these theories.

What about Joseph Newmann?  He uses small batteries?  Yes, but hundreds of
them, also I don't think his switches are all copper.  Also his magnet is
not in a closed magnetic mcircuit so it should contribute.

What about John Hutchison?  Well, probably his Vandegraff and Tesla coil
terminals are not Copper, but moreover he has a high energy bandwidth due
to the different frequencies and energies he provides, so he achieves it a
different way.

What about Markovitch  He might have used various metals, and he used a
crystal, but more over he uses what I consider to be another different way
of doing this, you offer energy 2 or more paths of different lengths, I am
not sure why it works, but it does work and it seems to create a similar
effect.

What about the Adams motor?  This has an open magnetic circuit and so it
should apply.

What about Paul Pantones GEET?  It uses copper pipes and iron rod and steel.

The Joe Cell does wonders when installed in cars, the energy works with
what is in the car which includes many different energies and materials.

So... use multiple metals, more mass is better (probably), ideally in
series or parallel, otherwise as a cut cylinder C or a wire or rod inside.
Also a Conical or Pancake coil...
Also some wires cut to a bunch of different lengths (used by Keely)   Takes
a few minutes to cut, does not need to be neat.
And some wires of different lengths (very short to long) in parallel...
(quicker to make if you use uninsulated wire)

Also a totally different correlation, energy like this conducting along a
magnetic field does something for sure, previously mentioned here...
Also apply the negative pole of an additional otherwise unconnected battery
to a circuit (Ed Gray's split the positive means don't connect the positive
of one battery to the circuit IMO)

Also arc lamps create a wide energy bandwidth!  They create lots of heat,
UV-C, UV-B, UV-A, full spectrum of visible light, Radio spectrum noise
(RFI), Plasma/ions and chemical reactions, Bucky balls are made, they make
sound.   The energy from them can couple into wires and other things and
feedback.
The aetheric energy released with the conventional energy becomes
conditioned, and recycled...

A lot of Free Energy circuits have a portion that is isolated from the
ground or mains...

Finally, Free Energy ideally requires a degree of de-coupling, a bridge
rectifier, or loose coupling transformer or other methods are good at
allowing energy to be induced that is not reflected back on the input as
increases current draw.

If I am right, and I am personally certain that I am, then using multiple
metals and other methods to "increase the aetheric bandwidth" will be
hugely helpful, but they won't necessarily be enough if aetheric energy is
not working in your circuit in the first place, that is easily fixed, but
just thought I should mention that, this is likely no harder than attaching
the battery as I explained and joining wire the right way.


On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 1:53 PM John Berry <[email protected]> wrote:

> I have had an insight into Free Energy...
>
> Let's start off with 2 early discoverers of Free Energy...
>
> Both of them took multiple different metals...
> Used them in an equal manner...
> Buried them in the ground...
> Connected to arc lamps...
> Which glowed with a white light that seemed to be cold or differed from
> conventional electricity.
>
> I have just described both Louis Rota and Nathan Stubblefield.
>
> Ok, let's try another...  this one didn't use earth energy and didn't even
> use anything pretending to be electricity, but he took wire made of 3
> layers of 3 different metals..  And got Free Energy.
>
> You might have guessed that one, it's Keely.
>
> Ok, how about someone who made a device that has been called "Tri Metal
> Generator"?  That's Tesla, it used iron, Aluminium and Copper, though the
> details besides that are sketchy...   Tesla also used Aluminium in his
> Magnifying Transmitter (Aluminium tube) and the ground employed steel in
> part I believe.
> Also, if this multi metal thing is doing what I think, Conical and pancake
> coils are an alternative or additional method.
>
> Ok, how about another who used both a ground and an Antenna, and then just
> happened to include a large bar of lead and a bar of silver in parallel?
> That's Moray according to one witness!    For what conventional purpose??
>
> How about 8 different claims of invisibility I have come across that have
> employed conduction through copper and steel!?   Coincidence?  Maybe more...
>
> Coler used pancake coils, and Silver wires in parts and iron rods through
> which current was conducted.
>
> I can also argue that Daniel Mcfarland Cook, Hubbard, Perrigo, Hendershot,
> Bedini all use iron in ways that differ from that of the normal use, and
> from my tests this results in much the same result as if it were included
> in the circuit.  One way if by using a split cylinder or tube, the other is
> using a rod or bundle of iron wires wound with a copper electromagnet, by
> being open circuit the energy from the iron mingles with the copper.
>
> Some or all version's of Floyd Sweet's device included an Aluminium Pipe
> or cage that is magnet and coils sat inside of.  A strange details.
>
> Carbon brushes would count...  A lot of people consider DC motors to have
> a too high efficiency and to be prone to exhibiting the characteristics to
> be made OU.
> A number have also claimed carbon spark gaps have been involved in OU.
>
> Tesla Switch used a lot of very large batteries, so that involves lead...
>
> Searl used rings of different materials and rollers of different materials
> in parallel.
>
> Swiss ML (Paul Bauman) uses Aluminium cans and the Linden experiment used
> iron wire (plus perspex and Copper and Aluminium), we should assume iron
> wire is therefore used in the full machine as well.
>
> Ed Grey used a carbon block resistor...
>
> Steven Marks used steel/iron wires.
>
> Lakhosky's MWO might not be Free Energy, but he used a lot of different
> diameter circles and then used different metals for the different rings.
> This suggests some force comes into play when metals or materials are
> mixed.
>
> Dotto's Ring reportedly levitated, and sometimes glowed, but it used
> Copper and a segment of Constantin Alloy.
>
> Ronald Stiffler's TMB (Thermal Magnetic Battery) despite being milivolts
> and microamps and without an inductive load, would sometimes have a fat
> blue 1/4 inch arc when the circuit was broken, as well as responding to
> movement of things in the area...  It passed electricity "somehow" through
> a Ceramic magnet, though a cardboard or balsa layer, though plastic
> film...  And it used Tin as one of the plates, as well as having a magnet
> in series.
>
> C.Earl Ammann used iron wire coil to power a alarm which would have used
> copper wire.
>
> There is a report that a steel Pyramid being welded levitated, so that's
> steel and copper in the circuit.
> There are other reports of welding causing things to vanish in Gerry
> Vassalitos's books.
>
> Stan Deyo mentioned an antigravity experiment called the "Wedding cake
> device" as it had 3 layers of Plywood circles and coils, but the coils were
> wound with iron wire, but powered from a normal copper based power source.
>
> My own research supports the idea that metals and used correctly other
> materials by being used together leads to a wider aetheric energy
> bandwidth, by making the energy bandwidth involved larger, the aetheric
> functions begins to affect to have a more dominant effect, it affects more
> of the physical world when it's bandwidth is increased.
>
> This is pretty compelling!
>
> Now ask yourself, how  many unsuccessful experiments have not use ample
> amounts of other metals besides a few drops of solder or a small battery
> here or there?
>
> Norm, that buzzer, wasn't Steel effectively in that circuit?
>
> John
>

A bit of testing, and I can confirm that the more mass the better!

So a few spots of soldier won't do much, but a block of lead, or a coil of
iron wire is a different story!

It also seems advantageous to put materials in parallel as in the Moray
diagram, I think this creates an additional effect.

I am not saying this is the only secret to Free Energy and harnessing of
aetheric energy, Far far from it, but I think this might be the best hidden
secret with the most potential that has been waiting to be seen!




On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 2:51 PM John Berry <[email protected]> wrote:

> I'll add a few more...
>
> So, it seems mass means something, Louis Rota (http://wikirota.org) used
> large masses of multiple metals.
>
> Kapanadze used a big buried steel radiator connection to the ground.
>
> I need to check that, but we see it again with Moray, he didn't use a
> sample of silver, despite it's price he used a largish bar of it!
> http://www.diagrambay.today/circuit-t-henry-moray.html
>
> A few drops of Solider is likely not enough, nor likely would many smaller
> batteries be as suited as larger batteries, also likely playes aren't as
> good as wires, and wires aren't as good as bars, this is just speculation,
> I need to test these theories.
>
> What about Joseph Newmann?  He uses small batteries?  Yes, but hundreds of
> them, also I don't think his switches are all copper.  Also his magnet is
> not in a closed magnetic mcircuit so it should contribute.
>
> What about John Hutchison?  Well, probably his Vandegraff and Tesla coil
> terminals are not Copper, but moreover he has a high energy bandwidth due
> to the different frequencies and energies he provides, so he achieves it a
> different way.
>
> What about Markovitch  He might have used various metals, and he used a
> crystal, but more over he uses what I consider to be another different way
> of doing this, you offer energy 2 or more paths of different lengths, I am
> not sure why it works, but it does work and it seems to create a similar
> effect.
>
> What about the Adams motor?  This has an open magnetic circuit and so it
> should apply.
>
> What about Paul Pantones GEET?  It uses copper pipes and iron rod and
> steel.
>
> The Joe Cell does wonders when installed in cars, the energy works with
> what is in the car which includes many different energies and materials.
>
> So... use multiple metals, more mass is better (probably), ideally in
> series or parallel, otherwise as a cut cylinder C or a wire or rod inside.
> Also a Conical or Pancake coil...
> Also some wires cut to a bunch of different lengths (used by Keely)
>  Takes a few minutes to cut, does not need to be neat.
> And some wires of different lengths (very short to long) in parallel...
> (quicker to make if you use uninsulated wire)
>
> Also a totally different correlation, energy like this conducting along a
> magnetic field does something for sure, previously mentioned here...
> Also apply the negative pole of an additional otherwise unconnected
> battery to a circuit (Ed Gray's split the positive means don't connect the
> positive of one battery to the circuit IMO)
>
> Also arc lamps create a wide energy bandwidth!  They create lots of heat,
> UV-C, UV-B, UV-A, full spectrum of visible light, Radio spectrum noise
> (RFI), Plasma/ions and chemical reactions, Bucky balls are made, they make
> sound.   The energy from them can couple into wires and other things and
> feedback.
> The aetheric energy released with the conventional energy becomes
> conditioned, and recycled...
>
> A lot of Free Energy circuits have a portion that is isolated from the
> ground or mains...
>
> Finally, Free Energy ideally requires a degree of de-coupling, a bridge
> rectifier, or loose coupling transformer or other methods are good at
> allowing energy to be induced that is not reflected back on the input as
> increases current draw.
>
> If I am right, and I am personally certain that I am, then using multiple
> metals and other methods to "increase the aetheric bandwidth" will be
> hugely helpful, but they won't necessarily be enough if aetheric energy is
> not working in your circuit in the first place, that is easily fixed, but
> just thought I should mention that, this is likely no harder than attaching
> the battery as I explained and joining wire the right way.
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 1:53 PM John Berry <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I have had an insight into Free Energy...
>>
>> Let's start off with 2 early discoverers of Free Energy...
>>
>> Both of them took multiple different metals...
>> Used them in an equal manner...
>> Buried them in the ground...
>> Connected to arc lamps...
>> Which glowed with a white light that seemed to be cold or differed from
>> conventional electricity.
>>
>> I have just described both Louis Rota and Nathan Stubblefield.
>>
>> Ok, let's try another...  this one didn't use earth energy and didn't
>> even use anything pretending to be electricity, but he took wire made of 3
>> layers of 3 different metals..  And got Free Energy.
>>
>> You might have guessed that one, it's Keely.
>>
>> Ok, how about someone who made a device that has been called "Tri Metal
>> Generator"?  That's Tesla, it used iron, Aluminium and Copper, though the
>> details besides that are sketchy...   Tesla also used Aluminium in his
>> Magnifying Transmitter (Aluminium tube) and the ground employed steel in
>> part I believe.
>> Also, if this multi metal thing is doing what I think, Conical and
>> pancake coils are an alternative or additional method.
>>
>> Ok, how about another who used both a ground and an Antenna, and then
>> just happened to include a large bar of lead and a bar of silver in
>> parallel?
>> That's Moray according to one witness!    For what conventional purpose??
>>
>> How about 8 different claims of invisibility I have come across that have
>> employed conduction through copper and steel!?   Coincidence?  Maybe more...
>>
>> Coler used pancake coils, and Silver wires in parts and iron rods through
>> which current was conducted.
>>
>> I can also argue that Daniel Mcfarland Cook, Hubbard, Perrigo,
>> Hendershot, Bedini all use iron in ways that differ from that of the normal
>> use, and from my tests this results in much the same result as if it were
>> included in the circuit.  One way if by using a split cylinder or tube, the
>> other is using a rod or bundle of iron wires wound with a copper
>> electromagnet, by being open circuit the energy from the iron mingles with
>> the copper.
>>
>> Some or all version's of Floyd Sweet's device included an Aluminium Pipe
>> or cage that is magnet and coils sat inside of.  A strange details.
>>
>> Carbon brushes would count...  A lot of people consider DC motors to have
>> a too high efficiency and to be prone to exhibiting the characteristics to
>> be made OU.
>> A number have also claimed carbon spark gaps have been involved in OU.
>>
>> Tesla Switch used a lot of very large batteries, so that involves lead...
>>
>> Searl used rings of different materials and rollers of different
>> materials in parallel.
>>
>> Swiss ML (Paul Bauman) uses Aluminium cans and the Linden experiment used
>> iron wire (plus perspex and Copper and Aluminium), we should assume iron
>> wire is therefore used in the full machine as well.
>>
>> Ed Grey used a carbon block resistor...
>>
>> Steven Marks used steel/iron wires.
>>
>> Lakhosky's MWO might not be Free Energy, but he used a lot of different
>> diameter circles and then used different metals for the different rings.
>> This suggests some force comes into play when metals or materials are
>> mixed.
>>
>> Dotto's Ring reportedly levitated, and sometimes glowed, but it used
>> Copper and a segment of Constantin Alloy.
>>
>> Ronald Stiffler's TMB (Thermal Magnetic Battery) despite being milivolts
>> and microamps and without an inductive load, would sometimes have a fat
>> blue 1/4 inch arc when the circuit was broken, as well as responding to
>> movement of things in the area...  It passed electricity "somehow" through
>> a Ceramic magnet, though a cardboard or balsa layer, though plastic
>> film...  And it used Tin as one of the plates, as well as having a magnet
>> in series.
>>
>> C.Earl Ammann used iron wire coil to power a alarm which would have used
>> copper wire.
>>
>> There is a report that a steel Pyramid being welded levitated, so that's
>> steel and copper in the circuit.
>> There are other reports of welding causing things to vanish in Gerry
>> Vassalitos's books.
>>
>> Stan Deyo mentioned an antigravity experiment called the "Wedding cake
>> device" as it had 3 layers of Plywood circles and coils, but the coils were
>> wound with iron wire, but powered from a normal copper based power source.
>>
>> My own research supports the idea that metals and used correctly other
>> materials by being used together leads to a wider aetheric energy
>> bandwidth, by making the energy bandwidth involved larger, the aetheric
>> functions begins to affect to have a more dominant effect, it affects more
>> of the physical world when it's bandwidth is increased.
>>
>> This is pretty compelling!
>>
>> Now ask yourself, how  many unsuccessful experiments have not use ample
>> amounts of other metals besides a few drops of solder or a small battery
>> here or there?
>>
>> Norm, that buzzer, wasn't Steel effectively in that circuit?
>>
>> John
>>
>

Bedini said that the one thing for sure that they knew was that the more
copper the more over unity .and Newman's motors had a boat load of copper
in them with massive neo's. I think that certain isotopes are flipping to
different elements and back creating a energy pump by the hivoltage back
EMF .they said more copper more back EMF . it's proven in carbon with hi
positive voltages and a cap with spark gap .the flipping was shown by CERN
.but not released for public consumption .
On Aug 16, 2018 12:36 PM, "Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <
[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> Hi John,
>
> Great points!  If it's not too difficult can you post the invisibility
> experiments you are aware of.  This of course if they are in one place and
> easy to link to.
>
> Also can you provide more info on the Stiffler battery?  I find Stiffler
> very interesting and on point, he recently reappeared after many years of
> hiatus due to a heart attack I think it was.
>
> Thanks for the great post.
>
> Mick
>
> On 8/15/2018 9:41 PM, John Berry [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
>
> A bit of testing, and I can confirm that the more mass the better!
>
> So a few spots of soldier won't do much, but a block of lead, or a coil of
> iron wire is a different story!
>
> It also seems advantageous to put materials in parallel as in the Moray
> diagram, I think this creates an additional effect.
>
> I am not saying this is the only secret to Free Energy and harnessing of
> aetheric energy, Far far from it, but I think this might be the best hidden
> secret with the most potential that has been waiting to be seen!
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 2:51 PM John Berry <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I'll add a few more...
>>
>> So, it seems mass means something, Louis Rota (http://wikirota.org) used
>> large masses of multiple metals.
>>
>> Kapanadze used a big buried steel radiator connection to the ground.
>>
>> I need to check that, but we see it again with Moray, he didn't use a
>> sample of silver, despite it's price he used a largish bar of it!
>> http://www.diagrambay.today/circuit-t-henry-moray.html
>>
>> A few drops of Solider is likely not enough, nor likely would many
>> smaller batteries be as suited as larger batteries, also likely playes
>> aren't as good as wires, and wires aren't as good as bars, this is just
>> speculation, I need to test these theories.
>>
>> What about Joseph Newmann?  He uses small batteries?  Yes, but hundreds
>> of them, also I don't think his switches are all copper.  Also his magnet
>> is not in a closed magnetic mcircuit so it should contribute.
>>
>> What about John Hutchison?  Well, probably his Vandegraff and Tesla coil
>> terminals are not Copper, but moreover he has a high energy bandwidth due
>> to the different frequencies and energies he provides, so he achieves it a
>> different way.
>>
>> What about Markovitch  He might have used various metals, and he used a
>> crystal, but more over he uses what I consider to be another different way
>> of doing this, you offer energy 2 or more paths of different lengths, I am
>> not sure why it works, but it does work and it seems to create a similar
>> effect.
>>
>> What about the Adams motor?  This has an open magnetic circuit and so it
>> should apply.
>>
>> What about Paul Pantones GEET?  It uses copper pipes and iron rod and
>> steel.
>>
>> The Joe Cell does wonders when installed in cars, the energy works with
>> what is in the car which includes many different energies and materials.
>>
>> So... use multiple metals, more mass is better (probably), ideally in
>> series or parallel, otherwise as a cut cylinder C or a wire or rod inside.
>> Also a Conical or Pancake coil...
>> Also some wires cut to a bunch of different lengths (used by Keely)
>>  Takes a few minutes to cut, does not need to be neat.
>> And some wires of different lengths (very short to long) in parallel...
>> (quicker to make if you use uninsulated wire)
>>
>> Also a totally different correlation, energy like this conducting along a
>> magnetic field does something for sure, previously mentioned here...
>> Also apply the negative pole of an additional otherwise unconnected
>> battery to a circuit (Ed Gray's split the positive means don't connect the
>> positive of one battery to the circuit IMO)
>>
>> Also arc lamps create a wide energy bandwidth!  They create lots of heat,
>> UV-C, UV-B, UV-A, full spectrum of visible light, Radio spectrum noise
>> (RFI), Plasma/ions and chemical reactions, Bucky balls are made, they make
>> sound.   The energy from them can couple into wires and other things and
>> feedback.
>> The aetheric energy released with the conventional energy becomes
>> conditioned, and recycled...
>>
>> A lot of Free Energy circuits have a portion that is isolated from the
>> ground or mains...
>>
>> Finally, Free Energy ideally requires a degree of de-coupling, a bridge
>> rectifier, or loose coupling transformer or other methods are good at
>> allowing energy to be induced that is not reflected back on the input as
>> increases current draw.
>>
>> If I am right, and I am personally certain that I am, then using multiple
>> metals and other methods to "increase the aetheric bandwidth" will be
>> hugely helpful, but they won't necessarily be enough if aetheric energy is
>> not working in your circuit in the first place, that is easily fixed, but
>> just thought I should mention that, this is likely no harder than attaching
>> the battery as I explained and joining wire the right way.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 1:53 PM John Berry <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I have had an insight into Free Energy...
>>>
>>> Let's start off with 2 early discoverers of Free Energy...
>>>
>>> Both of them took multiple different metals...
>>> Used them in an equal manner...
>>> Buried them in the ground...
>>> Connected to arc lamps...
>>> Which glowed with a white light that seemed to be cold or differed from
>>> conventional electricity.
>>>
>>> I have just described both Louis Rota and Nathan Stubblefield.
>>>
>>> Ok, let's try another...  this one didn't use earth energy and didn't
>>> even use anything pretending to be electricity, but he took wire made of 3
>>> layers of 3 different metals..  And got Free Energy.
>>>
>>> You might have guessed that one, it's Keely.
>>>
>>> Ok, how about someone who made a device that has been called "Tri Metal
>>> Generator"?  That's Tesla, it used iron, Aluminium and Copper, though the
>>> details besides that are sketchy...   Tesla also used Aluminium in his
>>> Magnifying Transmitter (Aluminium tube) and the ground employed steel in
>>> part I believe.
>>> Also, if this multi metal thing is doing what I think, Conical and
>>> pancake coils are an alternative or additional method.
>>>
>>> Ok, how about another who used both a ground and an Antenna, and then
>>> just happened to include a large bar of lead and a bar of silver in
>>> parallel?
>>> That's Moray according to one witness!    For what conventional purpose??
>>>
>>> How about 8 different claims of invisibility I have come across that
>>> have employed conduction through copper and steel!?   Coincidence?  Maybe
>>> more...
>>>
>>> Coler used pancake coils, and Silver wires in parts and iron rods
>>> through which current was conducted.
>>>
>>> I can also argue that Daniel Mcfarland Cook, Hubbard, Perrigo,
>>> Hendershot, Bedini all use iron in ways that differ from that of the normal
>>> use, and from my tests this results in much the same result as if it were
>>> included in the circuit..  One way if by using a split cylinder or tube,
>>> the other is using a rod or bundle of iron wires wound with a copper
>>> electromagnet, by being open circuit the energy from the iron mingles with
>>> the copper.
>>>
>>> Some or all version's of Floyd Sweet's device included an Aluminium Pipe
>>> or cage that is magnet and coils sat inside of.  A strange details.
>>>
>>> Carbon brushes would count...  A lot of people consider DC motors to
>>> have a too high efficiency and to be prone to exhibiting the
>>> characteristics to be made OU.
>>> A number have also claimed carbon spark gaps have been involved in OU.
>>>
>>> Tesla Switch used a lot of very large batteries, so that involves lead...
>>>
>>> Searl used rings of different materials and rollers of different
>>> materials in parallel.
>>>
>>> Swiss ML (Paul Bauman) uses Aluminium cans and the Linden experiment
>>> used iron wire (plus perspex and Copper and Aluminium), we should assume
>>> iron wire is therefore used in the full machine as well.
>>>
>>> Ed Grey used a carbon block resistor...
>>>
>>> Steven Marks used steel/iron wires.
>>>
>>> Lakhosky's MWO might not be Free Energy, but he used a lot of different
>>> diameter circles and then used different metals for the different rings.
>>> This suggests some force comes into play when metals or materials are
>>> mixed.
>>>
>>> Dotto's Ring reportedly levitated, and sometimes glowed, but it used
>>> Copper and a segment of Constantin Alloy.
>>>
>>> Ronald Stiffler's TMB (Thermal Magnetic Battery) despite being milivolts
>>> and microamps and without an inductive load, would sometimes have a fat
>>> blue 1/4 inch arc when the circuit was broken, as well as responding to
>>> movement of things in the area...  It passed electricity "somehow" through
>>> a Ceramic magnet, though a cardboard or balsa layer, though plastic
>>> film...  And it used Tin as one of the plates, as well as having a magnet
>>> in series.
>>>
>>> C.Earl Ammann used iron wire coil to power a alarm which would have used
>>> copper wire.
>>>
>>> There is a report that a steel Pyramid being welded levitated, so that's
>>> steel and copper in the circuit.
>>> There are other reports of welding causing things to vanish in Gerry
>>> Vassalitos's books.
>>>
>>> Stan Deyo mentioned an antigravity experiment called the "Wedding cake
>>> device" as it had 3 layers of Plywood circles and coils, but the coils were
>>> wound with iron wire, but powered from a normal copper based power source.
>>>
>>> My own research supports the idea that metals and used correctly other
>>> materials by being used together leads to a wider aetheric energy
>>> bandwidth, by making the energy bandwidth involved larger, the aetheric
>>> functions begins to affect to have a more dominant effect, it affects more
>>> of the physical world when it's bandwidth is increased.
>>>
>>> This is pretty compelling!
>>>
>>> Now ask yourself, how  many unsuccessful experiments have not use ample
>>> amounts of other metals besides a few drops of solder or a small battery
>>> here or there?
>>>
>>> Norm, that buzzer, wasn't Steel effectively in that circuit?
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>
> 
>

JohnA number of years ago whdn I sas hang glididing, since we have so few really steep hills in Ontatio, that what was needed was  light weight thruster. I welded and machined up a pulse jet engine from marine stainless steel 316L tube and an aluminium intake port, almost the same as used to power the WW2 buzz bombs, only five feet long.We made a test stand up to measure the thrust with a sliding track and spring scales, burning gasoline, after starting on methal alchohol. It ran quite impressively developing a thrust of about 50 lbs.After running steady for about five minutes, barking away with a deep throated howl, it glowed a light translucent pink colour, from the combustion chamber to two thirds the way along the exhaust stack.It seemed you could almost see your hand through from the other side of the engine.The heat radiated off was amazing, so much so, that you would have to be crazy to strap such a fire hazard to a flimsy dacron and aluminium kite, and fly with it.Further, one of the beauties of hang gliding, was the quiet joy. This was like bringing a siren to a poetry reading.The thing I was struck by, was the strange quality of the light from the stainless steel combustion chamber and exhast pipe developed by the pulse harmonics, seeming to be different than just heating it with an oxyacetylene torch, making it appear transluscent pinky purple rather than the orange yellow, white, one normally is used to.After cooling down, it seemed fine except, of course, darkened, instead of the polished stainless surface.Just an observation of an old experiment.Cheers Warren

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  On Fri, 17 Aug 2018 at 12:47 AM, John Berry [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       

Ok, so I am going to tell you about more than 8 but I will number the 8 things (actually 9), and not all invisibility, but I don't have links for most.
One was iron filings that passed a current (might have included electrolytic solution), not invisibility, but the experimenter had a time displacement like effect or something else weird, it came up when looking into the next one...
Ultra Mega (was a silly name given to it, I forget it's proper name, but weird stuff has happened near it)  It is like a Joe Cell with current passed through it from a generator. Can find more info in you are interested, it relates to a Pre-Joe Cell "Joe Cell" and some wild stories that go with it.
1 Welding steel with a certain technology now disused caused things near the arc to become randomly invisible, based on Tesla, it is mentioned by Gerry Vassalitos in one of his 2 books, read them, both worthwhile.
2 Bike transformer Keelynet, ok, I just looked for this and cannot easily find it, but it was on Keelynet for a long time, it was an account of a transformer that of made on a ride-able frame made of hollow steel tube and resembled a bike, there was a dead man's switch, the first person who started to use it began to vanish and let go of the switch, he re-materialized, another guy wanted to try, he was more determined and didn't let go of the switch till after he completely vanished, but came back a babbling madman.   The point is it used steel tube and steel tube, especially if it has a seam as most will have can transfer aetheric energy to the copper coils.   This can be found if you search well enough, it can't be gone.Found it!  The Dallas Connection here: http://www.keelynet.com/energy/dimshift.htm
3 coat hanger, this was told to me by a friend, they put a coat hanger across a car battery and it turned red, then white, then went transparent/invisible, but them pulled it off and it re-materialized I believe.
4 paperclip Amsci, there is an account that can be found on Bill Beaty's weird sci/amature sci pages where someone describes an experiment they did as a kid, they took the amplifier from some UHF thing, hooked it up to steel loop from one of those set top Antennas, and then they dangled a paper clip on a string in the center of this field, it made the paperclip vanish, and it re-materialized.
Generator (Westinghouse?)  This was an account I heard from someone, he claims that a friend or a friend of a friend working at a power generator for the grid, probably a hydro dam, but whatever, when it had to be disconnected suddenly from the grid (some emergency reason), all that energy is still being generated but has no-where to go likely increased hysteresis and eddy current losses like crazy, the steel began to turn transparent, there was a "we don't talk about it' policy there.   Not including this in the 9 as details are a bit thin on the ground.

5 Philo T. Pharnsworth, I think this was meant to be about his fusion reactor, but some of the tubes he made that had steel elements would become invisible or transparent,not sure where i read or heard it.
6 vacuum tube  vortex email list, Someone on there claimed that they had seen steel elements in a vacuum tube become transparent or invisible.

7 screw x-former, Art Bell;  For a long time I remembered this guy's name, now the best I can do is "Maybe Steve?", anyway he rang up Art Bell in the day, and said he had made his own HV transformer, it was like a NST, except the secondary he wound by hand and he described it as "Scramble wound".He found that when he threw steel screws towards the arc they would vanish!    I would note that scramble wound involves wires crossing over each other haphazardly at many different angles and as such, this is likely "wide bandwidth" by my definition as well, also if the core of the transformer was not conventional then the aether iron flux energy could have entered the copper..
Philadelphia experiment, Just sayin!  The Steel was always meant to be a part of why this mythical experiment went crazy.
8 goat  keelynet;  ok, I found this one, here again, "The Michigan Experiment" http://www.keelynet.com/energy/dimshift.htmOk, maybe this was not part of my initial 8 as we lack good info, but if as shown, the energy from the magnets should enter the wire, so it should have that going on, also current would be induced into the magnets, and the permanent magnets are alloys (admittedly I am assuming they aren't ceramic) and so should probably work by themselves in the induced energy is enough.
Might be worth noting "The Missouri Connection" with Mike Marcum also here: http://www.keelynet.com/energy/dimshift.htmIt might be this is actually another account of the Michigan experiment above, there are few details and not enough to conclude that it even worked let alone was used in the correct manner for my theory...
Invisibility Document (I can dig up with some effort and send on request); I am not considering this as part of the 8 it is similar to the above 2 cases but with much ore info!It seemingly would fall under the "mix of metals" except I have not read it in detail enough to be convinced of that, but it involved 3 bucking electromagnets (hence open magnetic circuits), the frequency would raise, and IIRC the they chased in a circle.   Animals put in the center disappeared, one can never came back but others did.
In another case, a workman was seen by multiple witnesses to vanish near a bunch of Antennas, Antenna's are inherently wide-band, and they are made and supported with a mix of Copper, Aluminium and steel.
Iron wire in Stan Deyo's report of the wedding cake Antiravity device, this included a report of a visual disturbance underneath the device.
9 suit of Iron coils - lost tech archives :  Back in the 90's or early 2000's there was a New Zealand outfit, like Rex Research called lost-tech archives.  Sadly I have no idea where the info could be found now, but someone had scoured old papers and such and found amazing accounts, one was of a man with an invisibility suit made of iron wire coils, I have no other info, but it is perfect for illustrating the connection between steel/iron and invisibility.
Stepped Pyramid;   Dan A. Davidson and others, Sure, no invisibility or even visual disturbance in this example, however that antigravity should come up with iron and electric currents, it supports my contention that electrical currents and especially iron/steel (maybe steel because it is an alloy so is a mix of different elements, think "frequencies' at an aetheric level) done right can include an aetheric current capable of doing many normally impossible things!
Vacuum tube made invisibility ray   losttech; Or, was it an anti-gravity ray, or both, the details are super vague in my head, but it was some vacuum tube HV experiment that produced a ray that did something interesting, vacuum tubes generally/always used some steel components to handle the heat.

Magnet, Pineal gland, Rawls and Davis, Also mentioned at that Keelynet page, no electric current here, and no idea is the user became invisible, but he apparently materialized to some being on a different plane of reality, maybe of some slight relevance


On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 5:36 AM Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:

     
 

Hi John,
 
Great points!  If it's not too difficult can you post the invisibility experiments you are aware of.  This of course if they are in one place and easy to link to.
 
Also can you provide more info on the Stiffler battery?  I find Stiffler very interesting and on point, he recently reappeared after many years of hiatus due to a heart attack I think it was.
 
Thanks for the great post.
 
Mick
 
 
 On 8/15/2018 9:41 PM, John Berry [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
  
      A bit of testing, and I can confirm that the more mass the better! 
  So a few spots of soldier won't do much, but a block of lead, or a coil of iron wire is a different story! 
  It also seems advantageous to put materials in parallel as in the Moray diagram, I think this creates an additional effect. 
  I am not saying this is the only secret to Free Energy and harnessing of aetheric energy, Far far from it, but I think this might be the best hidden secret with the most potential that has been waiting to be seen! 
  
  
   
  On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 2:51 PM John Berry <[email protected]> wrote:
  
 I'll add a few more... 
  So, it seems mass means something, Louis Rota (http://wikirota.org) used large masses of multiple metals. 
  Kapanadze used a big buried steel radiator connection to the ground. 
  I need to check that, but we see it again with Moray, he didn't use a sample of silver, despite it's price he used a largish bar of it! http://www.diagrambay.today/circuit-t-henry-moray.html
  
  A few drops of Solider is likely not enough, nor likely would many smaller batteries be as suited as larger batteries, also likely playes aren't as good as wires, and wires aren't as good as bars, this is just speculation, I need to test these theories. 
  What about Joseph Newmann?  He uses small batteries?  Yes, but hundreds of them, also I don't think his switches are all copper.  Also his magnet is not in a closed magnetic mcircuit so it should contribute. 
  What about John Hutchison?  Well, probably his Vandegraff and Tesla coil terminals are not Copper, but moreover he has a high energy bandwidth due to the different frequencies and energies he provides, so he achieves it a different way. 
  What about Markovitch  He might have used various metals, and he used a crystal, but more over he uses what I consider to be another different way of doing this, you offer energy 2 or more paths of different lengths, I am not sure why it works, but it does work and it seems to create a similar effect. 
  What about the Adams motor?  This has an open magnetic circuit and so it should apply. 
  What about Paul Pantones GEET?  It uses copper pipes and iron rod and steel. 
  The Joe Cell does wonders when installed in cars, the energy works with what is in the car which includes many different energies and materials. 
  So... use multiple metals, more mass is better (probably), ideally in series or parallel, otherwise as a cut cylinder C or a wire or rod inside. Also a Conical or Pancake coil... Also some wires cut to a bunch of different lengths (used by Keely)   Takes a few minutes to cut, does not need to be neat. And some wires of different lengths (very short to long) in parallel... (quicker to make if you use uninsulated wire) 
  Also a totally different correlation, energy like this conducting along a magnetic field does something for sure, previously mentioned here... Also apply the negative pole of an additional otherwise unconnected battery to a circuit (Ed Gray's split the positive means don't connect the positive of one battery to the circuit IMO) 
  Also arc lamps create a wide energy bandwidth!  They create lots of heat, UV-C, UV-B, UV-A, full spectrum of visible light, Radio spectrum noise (RFI), Plasma/ions and chemical reactions, Bucky balls are made, they make sound.   The energy from them can couple into wires and other things and feedback. The aetheric energy released with the conventional energy becomes conditioned, and recycled... 
  A lot of Free Energy circuits have a portion that is isolated from the ground or mains... 
  Finally, Free Energy ideally requires a degree of de-coupling, a bridge rectifier, or loose coupling transformer or other methods are good at allowing energy to be induced that is not reflected back on the input as increases current draw. 
  If I am right, and I am personally certain that I am, then using multiple metals and other methods to "increase the aetheric bandwidth" will be hugely helpful, but they won't necessarily be enough if aetheric energy is not working in your circuit in the first place, that is easily fixed, but just thought I should mention that, this is likely no harder than attaching the battery as I explained and joining wire the right way. 
   
  On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 1:53 PM John Berry <[email protected]> wrote:
  
 I have had an insight into Free Energy... 
  Let's start off with 2 early discoverers of Free Energy... 
  Both of them took multiple different metals... Used them in an equal manner... Buried them in the ground... Connected to arc lamps... Which glowed with a white light that seemed to be cold or differed from conventional electricity. 
  I have just described both Louis Rota and Nathan Stubblefield. 
  Ok, let's try another...  this one didn't use earth energy and didn't even use anything pretending to be electricity, but he took wire made of 3 layers of 3 different metals..  And got Free Energy. 
  You might have guessed that one, it's Keely. 
  Ok, how about someone who made a device that has been called "Tri Metal Generator"?  That's Tesla, it used iron, Aluminium and Copper, though the details besides that are sketchy...   Tesla also used Aluminium in his Magnifying Transmitter (Aluminium tube) and the ground employed steel in part I believe. Also, if this multi metal thing is doing what I think, Conical and pancake coils are an alternative or additional method. 
  Ok, how about another who used both a ground and an Antenna, and then just happened to include a large bar of lead and a bar of silver in parallel? That's Moray according to one witness!    For what conventional purpose?? 
  How about 8 different claims of invisibility I have come across that have employed conduction through copper and steel!?   Coincidence?  Maybe more... 
  Coler used pancake coils, and Silver wires in parts and iron rods through which current was conducted. 
  I can also argue that Daniel Mcfarland Cook, Hubbard, Perrigo, Hendershot, Bedini all use iron in ways that differ from that of the normal use, and from my tests this results in much the same result as if it were included in the circuit..  One way if by using a split cylinder or tube, the other is using a rod or bundle of iron wires wound with a copper electromagnet, by being open circuit the energy from the iron mingles with the copper. 
  Some or all version's of Floyd Sweet's device included an Aluminium Pipe or cage that is magnet and coils sat inside of.  A strange details. 
  Carbon brushes would count...  A lot of people consider DC motors to have a too high efficiency and to be prone to exhibiting the characteristics to be made OU. A number have also claimed carbon spark gaps have been involved in OU. 
  Tesla Switch used a lot of very large batteries, so that involves lead... 
  Searl used rings of different materials and rollers of different materials in parallel. 
  Swiss ML (Paul Bauman) uses Aluminium cans and the Linden experiment used iron wire (plus perspex and Copper and Aluminium), we should assume iron wire is therefore used in the full machine as well. 
  Ed Grey used a carbon block resistor... 
  Steven Marks used steel/iron wires. 
  Lakhosky's MWO might not be Free Energy, but he used a lot of different diameter circles and then used different metals for the different rings. This suggests some force comes into play when metals or materials are mixed. 
  Dotto's Ring reportedly levitated, and sometimes glowed, but it used Copper and a segment of Constantin Alloy. 
  Ronald Stiffler's TMB (Thermal Magnetic Battery) despite being milivolts and microamps and without an inductive load, would sometimes have a fat blue 1/4 inch arc when the circuit was broken, as well as responding to movement of things in the area...  It passed electricity "somehow" through a Ceramic magnet, though a cardboard or balsa layer, though plastic film...  And it used Tin as one of the plates, as well as having a magnet in series. 
  C.Earl Ammann used iron wire coil to power a alarm which would have used copper wire. 
  There is a report that a steel Pyramid being welded levitated, so that's steel and copper in the circuit. There are other reports of welding causing things to vanish in Gerry Vassalitos's books. 
  Stan Deyo mentioned an antigravity experiment called the "Wedding cake device" as it had 3 layers of Plywood circles and coils, but the coils were wound with iron wire, but powered from a normal copper based power source. 
  My own research supports the idea that metals and used correctly other materials by being used together leads to a wider aetheric energy bandwidth, by making the energy bandwidth involved larger, the aetheric functions begins to affect to have a more dominant effect, it affects more of the physical world when it's bandwidth is increased. 
  This is pretty compelling! 
  Now ask yourself, how  many unsuccessful experiments have not use ample amounts of other metals besides a few drops of solder or a small battery here or there? 
  Norm, that buzzer, wasn't Steel effectively in that circuit? 
  John  
  
    
 
   
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Ok, so I am going to tell you about more than 8 but I will number the 8
things (actually 9), and not all invisibility, but I don't have links for
most.

One was iron filings that passed a current (might have included
electrolytic solution), not invisibility, but the experimenter had a time
displacement like effect or something else weird, it came up when looking
into the next one...

Ultra Mega (was a silly name given to it, I forget it's proper name, but
weird stuff has happened near it)  It is like a Joe Cell with current
passed through it from a generator. Can find more info in you are
interested, it relates to a Pre-Joe Cell "Joe Cell" and some wild stories
that go with it.

1 Welding steel with a certain technology now disused caused things near
the arc to become randomly invisible, based on Tesla, it is mentioned by
Gerry Vassalitos in one of his 2 books, read them, both worthwhile.

2 Bike transformer Keelynet, ok, I just looked for this and cannot easily
find it, but it was on Keelynet for a long time, it was an account of a
transformer that of made on a ride-able frame made of hollow steel tube and
resembled a bike, there was a dead man's switch, the first person who
started to use it began to vanish and let go of the switch, he
re-materialized, another guy wanted to try, he was more determined and
didn't let go of the switch till after he completely vanished, but came
back a babbling madman.   The point is it used steel tube and steel tube,
especially if it has a seam as most will have can transfer aetheric energy
to the copper coils.   This can be found if you search well enough, it
can't be gone.
Found it!  The Dallas Connection here:
http://www.keelynet.com/energy/dimshift.htm

3 coat hanger, this was told to me by a friend, they put a coat hanger
across a car battery and it turned red, then white, then went
transparent/invisible, but them pulled it off and it re-materialized I
believe.

4 paperclip Amsci, there is an account that can be found on Bill Beaty's
weird sci/amature sci pages where someone describes an experiment they did
as a kid, they took the amplifier from some UHF thing, hooked it up to
steel loop from one of those set top Antennas, and then they dangled a
paper clip on a string in the center of this field, it made the paperclip
vanish, and it re-materialized.

Generator (Westinghouse?)  This was an account I heard from someone, he
claims that a friend or a friend of a friend working at a power generator
for the grid, probably a hydro dam, but whatever, when it had to be
disconnected suddenly from the grid (some emergency reason), all that
energy is still being generated but has no-where to go likely increased
hysteresis and eddy current losses like crazy, the steel began to turn
transparent, there was a "we don't talk about it' policy there.   Not
including this in the 9 as details are a bit thin on the ground.

5 Philo T. Pharnsworth, I think this was meant to be about his fusion
reactor, but some of the tubes he made that had steel elements would become
invisible or transparent,not sure where i read or heard it.

6 vacuum tube  vortex email list, Someone on there claimed that they had
seen steel elements in a vacuum tube become transparent or invisible.

7 screw x-former, Art Bell;  For a long time I remembered this guy's name,
now the best I can do is "Maybe Steve?", anyway he rang up Art Bell in the
day, and said he had made his own HV transformer, it was like a NST, except
the secondary he wound by hand and he described it as "Scramble wound".
He found that when he threw steel screws towards the arc they would
vanish!    I would note that scramble wound involves wires crossing over
each other haphazardly at many different angles and as such, this is likely
"wide bandwidth" by my definition as well, also if the core of the
transformer was not conventional then the aether iron flux energy could
have entered the copper.

Philadelphia experiment, Just sayin!  The Steel was always meant to be a
part of why this mythical experiment went crazy.

8 goat  keelynet;  ok, I found this one, here again, "The Michigan
Experiment" http://www.keelynet.com/energy/dimshift.htm
Ok, maybe this was not part of my initial 8 as we lack good info, but if as
shown, the energy from the magnets should enter the wire, so it should have
that going on, also current would be induced into the magnets, and the
permanent magnets are alloys (admittedly I am assuming they aren't ceramic)
and so should probably work by themselves in the induced energy is enough.

Might be worth noting "The Missouri Connection" with Mike Marcum also here:
http://www.keelynet.com/energy/dimshift.htm
It might be this is actually another account of the Michigan experiment
above, there are few details and not enough to conclude that it even worked
let alone was used in the correct manner for my theory...

Invisibility Document (I can dig up with some effort and send on request);
I am not considering this as part of the 8 it is similar to the above 2
cases but with much ore info!
It seemingly would fall under the "mix of metals" except I have not read it
in detail enough to be convinced of that, but it involved 3 bucking
electromagnets (hence open magnetic circuits), the frequency would raise,
and IIRC the they chased in a circle.   Animals put in the center
disappeared, one can never came back but others did.

In another case, a workman was seen by multiple witnesses to vanish near a
bunch of Antennas, Antenna's are inherently wide-band, and they are made
and supported with a mix of Copper, Aluminium and steel.

Iron wire in Stan Deyo's report of the wedding cake Antiravity device, this
included a report of a visual disturbance underneath the device.

9 suit of Iron coils - lost tech archives :  Back in the 90's or early
2000's there was a New Zealand outfit, like Rex Research called lost-tech
archives.  Sadly I have no idea where the info could be found now, but
someone had scoured old papers and such and found amazing accounts, one was
of a man with an invisibility suit made of iron wire coils, I have no other
info, but it is perfect for illustrating the connection between steel/iron
and invisibility.

Stepped Pyramid;   Dan A. Davidson and others, Sure, no invisibility or
even visual disturbance in this example, however that antigravity should
come up with iron and electric currents, it supports my contention that
electrical currents and especially iron/steel (maybe steel because it is an
alloy so is a mix of different elements, think "frequencies' at an aetheric
level) done right can include an aetheric current capable of doing many
normally impossible things!

Vacuum tube made invisibility ray   losttech; Or, was it an anti-gravity
ray, or both, the details are super vague in my head, but it was some
vacuum tube HV experiment that produced a ray that did something
interesting, vacuum tubes generally/always used some steel components to
handle the heat.

Magnet, Pineal gland, Rawls and Davis, Also mentioned at that Keelynet
page, no electric current here, and no idea is the user became invisible,
but he apparently materialized to some being on a different plane of
reality, maybe of some slight relevance



On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 5:36 AM Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] <
[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> Hi John,
>
> Great points!  If it's not too difficult can you post the invisibility
> experiments you are aware of.  This of course if they are in one place and
> easy to link to.
>
> Also can you provide more info on the Stiffler battery?  I find Stiffler
> very interesting and on point, he recently reappeared after many years of
> hiatus due to a heart attack I think it was.
>
> Thanks for the great post.
>
> Mick
>
> On 8/15/2018 9:41 PM, John Berry [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
>
> A bit of testing, and I can confirm that the more mass the better!
>
> So a few spots of soldier won't do much, but a block of lead, or a coil of
> iron wire is a different story!
>
> It also seems advantageous to put materials in parallel as in the Moray
> diagram, I think this creates an additional effect.
>
> I am not saying this is the only secret to Free Energy and harnessing of
> aetheric energy, Far far from it, but I think this might be the best hidden
> secret with the most potential that has been waiting to be seen!
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 2:51 PM John Berry <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I'll add a few more...
>>
>> So, it seems mass means something, Louis Rota (http://wikirota.org) used
>> large masses of multiple metals.
>>
>> Kapanadze used a big buried steel radiator connection to the ground.
>>
>> I need to check that, but we see it again with Moray, he didn't use a
>> sample of silver, despite it's price he used a largish bar of it!
>> http://www.diagrambay.today/circuit-t-henry-moray.html
>>
>> A few drops of Solider is likely not enough, nor likely would many
>> smaller batteries be as suited as larger batteries, also likely playes
>> aren't as good as wires, and wires aren't as good as bars, this is just
>> speculation, I need to test these theories.
>>
>> What about Joseph Newmann?  He uses small batteries?  Yes, but hundreds
>> of them, also I don't think his switches are all copper.  Also his magnet
>> is not in a closed magnetic mcircuit so it should contribute.
>>
>> What about John Hutchison?  Well, probably his Vandegraff and Tesla coil
>> terminals are not Copper, but moreover he has a high energy bandwidth due
>> to the different frequencies and energies he provides, so he achieves it a
>> different way.
>>
>> What about Markovitch  He might have used various metals, and he used a
>> crystal, but more over he uses what I consider to be another different way
>> of doing this, you offer energy 2 or more paths of different lengths, I am
>> not sure why it works, but it does work and it seems to create a similar
>> effect.
>>
>> What about the Adams motor?  This has an open magnetic circuit and so it
>> should apply.
>>
>> What about Paul Pantones GEET?  It uses copper pipes and iron rod and
>> steel.
>>
>> The Joe Cell does wonders when installed in cars, the energy works with
>> what is in the car which includes many different energies and materials.
>>
>> So... use multiple metals, more mass is better (probably), ideally in
>> series or parallel, otherwise as a cut cylinder C or a wire or rod inside.
>> Also a Conical or Pancake coil...
>> Also some wires cut to a bunch of different lengths (used by Keely)
>>  Takes a few minutes to cut, does not need to be neat.
>> And some wires of different lengths (very short to long) in parallel...
>> (quicker to make if you use uninsulated wire)
>>
>> Also a totally different correlation, energy like this conducting along a
>> magnetic field does something for sure, previously mentioned here...
>> Also apply the negative pole of an additional otherwise unconnected
>> battery to a circuit (Ed Gray's split the positive means don't connect the
>> positive of one battery to the circuit IMO)
>>
>> Also arc lamps create a wide energy bandwidth!  They create lots of heat,
>> UV-C, UV-B, UV-A, full spectrum of visible light, Radio spectrum noise
>> (RFI), Plasma/ions and chemical reactions, Bucky balls are made, they make
>> sound.   The energy from them can couple into wires and other things and
>> feedback.
>> The aetheric energy released with the conventional energy becomes
>> conditioned, and recycled...
>>
>> A lot of Free Energy circuits have a portion that is isolated from the
>> ground or mains...
>>
>> Finally, Free Energy ideally requires a degree of de-coupling, a bridge
>> rectifier, or loose coupling transformer or other methods are good at
>> allowing energy to be induced that is not reflected back on the input as
>> increases current draw.
>>
>> If I am right, and I am personally certain that I am, then using multiple
>> metals and other methods to "increase the aetheric bandwidth" will be
>> hugely helpful, but they won't necessarily be enough if aetheric energy is
>> not working in your circuit in the first place, that is easily fixed, but
>> just thought I should mention that, this is likely no harder than attaching
>> the battery as I explained and joining wire the right way.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 1:53 PM John Berry <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I have had an insight into Free Energy...
>>>
>>> Let's start off with 2 early discoverers of Free Energy...
>>>
>>> Both of them took multiple different metals...
>>> Used them in an equal manner...
>>> Buried them in the ground...
>>> Connected to arc lamps...
>>> Which glowed with a white light that seemed to be cold or differed from
>>> conventional electricity.
>>>
>>> I have just described both Louis Rota and Nathan Stubblefield.
>>>
>>> Ok, let's try another...  this one didn't use earth energy and didn't
>>> even use anything pretending to be electricity, but he took wire made of 3
>>> layers of 3 different metals..  And got Free Energy.
>>>
>>> You might have guessed that one, it's Keely.
>>>
>>> Ok, how about someone who made a device that has been called "Tri Metal
>>> Generator"?  That's Tesla, it used iron, Aluminium and Copper, though the
>>> details besides that are sketchy...   Tesla also used Aluminium in his
>>> Magnifying Transmitter (Aluminium tube) and the ground employed steel in
>>> part I believe.
>>> Also, if this multi metal thing is doing what I think, Conical and
>>> pancake coils are an alternative or additional method.
>>>
>>> Ok, how about another who used both a ground and an Antenna, and then
>>> just happened to include a large bar of lead and a bar of silver in
>>> parallel?
>>> That's Moray according to one witness!    For what conventional purpose??
>>>
>>> How about 8 different claims of invisibility I have come across that
>>> have employed conduction through copper and steel!?   Coincidence?  Maybe
>>> more...
>>>
>>> Coler used pancake coils, and Silver wires in parts and iron rods
>>> through which current was conducted.
>>>
>>> I can also argue that Daniel Mcfarland Cook, Hubbard, Perrigo,
>>> Hendershot, Bedini all use iron in ways that differ from that of the normal
>>> use, and from my tests this results in much the same result as if it were
>>> included in the circuit..  One way if by using a split cylinder or tube,
>>> the other is using a rod or bundle of iron wires wound with a copper
>>> electromagnet, by being open circuit the energy from the iron mingles with
>>> the copper.
>>>
>>> Some or all version's of Floyd Sweet's device included an Aluminium Pipe
>>> or cage that is magnet and coils sat inside of.  A strange details.
>>>
>>> Carbon brushes would count...  A lot of people consider DC motors to
>>> have a too high efficiency and to be prone to exhibiting the
>>> characteristics to be made OU.
>>> A number have also claimed carbon spark gaps have been involved in OU.
>>>
>>> Tesla Switch used a lot of very large batteries, so that involves lead...
>>>
>>> Searl used rings of different materials and rollers of different
>>> materials in parallel.
>>>
>>> Swiss ML (Paul Bauman) uses Aluminium cans and the Linden experiment
>>> used iron wire (plus perspex and Copper and Aluminium), we should assume
>>> iron wire is therefore used in the full machine as well.
>>>
>>> Ed Grey used a carbon block resistor...
>>>
>>> Steven Marks used steel/iron wires.
>>>
>>> Lakhosky's MWO might not be Free Energy, but he used a lot of different
>>> diameter circles and then used different metals for the different rings.
>>> This suggests some force comes into play when metals or materials are
>>> mixed.
>>>
>>> Dotto's Ring reportedly levitated, and sometimes glowed, but it used
>>> Copper and a segment of Constantin Alloy.
>>>
>>> Ronald Stiffler's TMB (Thermal Magnetic Battery) despite being milivolts
>>> and microamps and without an inductive load, would sometimes have a fat
>>> blue 1/4 inch arc when the circuit was broken, as well as responding to
>>> movement of things in the area...  It passed electricity "somehow" through
>>> a Ceramic magnet, though a cardboard or balsa layer, though plastic
>>> film...  And it used Tin as one of the plates, as well as having a magnet
>>> in series.
>>>
>>> C.Earl Ammann used iron wire coil to power a alarm which would have used
>>> copper wire.
>>>
>>> There is a report that a steel Pyramid being welded levitated, so that's
>>> steel and copper in the circuit.
>>> There are other reports of welding causing things to vanish in Gerry
>>> Vassalitos's books.
>>>
>>> Stan Deyo mentioned an antigravity experiment called the "Wedding cake
>>> device" as it had 3 layers of Plywood circles and coils, but the coils were
>>> wound with iron wire, but powered from a normal copper based power source.
>>>
>>> My own research supports the idea that metals and used correctly other
>>> materials by being used together leads to a wider aetheric energy
>>> bandwidth, by making the energy bandwidth involved larger, the aetheric
>>> functions begins to affect to have a more dominant effect, it affects more
>>> of the physical world when it's bandwidth is increased.
>>>
>>> This is pretty compelling!
>>>
>>> Now ask yourself, how  many unsuccessful experiments have not use ample
>>> amounts of other metals besides a few drops of solder or a small battery
>>> here or there?
>>>
>>> Norm, that buzzer, wasn't Steel effectively in that circuit?
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>
> 
>

I think that "more copper more power" is interesting and has an element of
truth, but I think that using a mix of metals it infinitly more beneficial,
also more affordable as Copper isn't cheap!

Rota used a ton of different metals, and Moray used big bars, which must
have meant mass was important as Silver especially is not cheap!

John Hutchison must have used a huge mass of metal in all his devices, it
was warping his floor, they were massive.  but they also covered everything
from DC to the whole radio spectrum and some radioactivity.

The point is that you want wide bandwidth of energies, of materials, or to
tune into a wide range of things.

On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 5:53 AM James Glinski [email protected] [EVGRAY]
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> Bedini said that the one thing for sure that they knew was that the more
> copper the more over unity .and Newman's motors had a boat load of copper
> in them with massive neo's. I think that certain isotopes are flipping to
> different elements and back creating a energy pump by the hivoltage back
> EMF .they said more copper more back EMF . it's proven in carbon with hi
> positive voltages and a cap with spark gap .the flipping was shown by CERN
> .but not released for public consumption .
> On Aug 16, 2018 12:36 PM, "Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> Great points!  If it's not too difficult can you post the invisibility
>> experiments you are aware of.  This of course if they are in one place and
>> easy to link to.
>>
>> Also can you provide more info on the Stiffler battery?  I find Stiffler
>> very interesting and on point, he recently reappeared after many years of
>> hiatus due to a heart attack I think it was.
>>
>> Thanks for the great post.
>>
>> Mick
>>
>> On 8/15/2018 9:41 PM, John Berry [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>>
>> A bit of testing, and I can confirm that the more mass the better!
>>
>> So a few spots of soldier won't do much, but a block of lead, or a coil
>> of iron wire is a different story!
>>
>> It also seems advantageous to put materials in parallel as in the Moray
>> diagram, I think this creates an additional effect.
>>
>> I am not saying this is the only secret to Free Energy and harnessing of
>> aetheric energy, Far far from it, but I think this might be the best hidden
>> secret with the most potential that has been waiting to be seen!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 2:51 PM John Berry <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I'll add a few more...
>>>
>>> So, it seems mass means something, Louis Rota (http://wikirota.org)
>>> used large masses of multiple metals.
>>>
>>> Kapanadze used a big buried steel radiator connection to the ground.
>>>
>>> I need to check that, but we see it again with Moray, he didn't use a
>>> sample of silver, despite it's price he used a largish bar of it!
>>> http://www.diagrambay.today/circuit-t-henry-moray.html
>>>
>>> A few drops of Solider is likely not enough, nor likely would many
>>> smaller batteries be as suited as larger batteries, also likely playes
>>> aren't as good as wires, and wires aren't as good as bars, this is just
>>> speculation, I need to test these theories.
>>>
>>> What about Joseph Newmann?  He uses small batteries?  Yes, but hundreds
>>> of them, also I don't think his switches are all copper.  Also his magnet
>>> is not in a closed magnetic mcircuit so it should contribute.
>>>
>>> What about John Hutchison?  Well, probably his Vandegraff and Tesla coil
>>> terminals are not Copper, but moreover he has a high energy bandwidth due
>>> to the different frequencies and energies he provides, so he achieves it a
>>> different way.
>>>
>>> What about Markovitch  He might have used various metals, and he used a
>>> crystal, but more over he uses what I consider to be another different way
>>> of doing this, you offer energy 2 or more paths of different lengths, I am
>>> not sure why it works, but it does work and it seems to create a similar
>>> effect.
>>>
>>> What about the Adams motor?  This has an open magnetic circuit and so it
>>> should apply.
>>>
>>> What about Paul Pantones GEET?  It uses copper pipes and iron rod and
>>> steel.
>>>
>>> The Joe Cell does wonders when installed in cars, the energy works with
>>> what is in the car which includes many different energies and materials.
>>>
>>> So... use multiple metals, more mass is better (probably), ideally in
>>> series or parallel, otherwise as a cut cylinder C or a wire or rod inside.
>>> Also a Conical or Pancake coil...
>>> Also some wires cut to a bunch of different lengths (used by Keely)
>>>  Takes a few minutes to cut, does not need to be neat.
>>> And some wires of different lengths (very short to long) in parallel...
>>> (quicker to make if you use uninsulated wire)
>>>
>>> Also a totally different correlation, energy like this conducting along
>>> a magnetic field does something for sure, previously mentioned here...
>>> Also apply the negative pole of an additional otherwise unconnected
>>> battery to a circuit (Ed Gray's split the positive means don't connect the
>>> positive of one battery to the circuit IMO)
>>>
>>> Also arc lamps create a wide energy bandwidth!  They create lots of
>>> heat, UV-C, UV-B, UV-A, full spectrum of visible light, Radio spectrum
>>> noise (RFI), Plasma/ions and chemical reactions, Bucky balls are made, they
>>> make sound.   The energy from them can couple into wires and other things
>>> and feedback.
>>> The aetheric energy released with the conventional energy becomes
>>> conditioned, and recycled...
>>>
>>> A lot of Free Energy circuits have a portion that is isolated from the
>>> ground or mains...
>>>
>>> Finally, Free Energy ideally requires a degree of de-coupling, a bridge
>>> rectifier, or loose coupling transformer or other methods are good at
>>> allowing energy to be induced that is not reflected back on the input as
>>> increases current draw.
>>>
>>> If I am right, and I am personally certain that I am, then using
>>> multiple metals and other methods to "increase the aetheric bandwidth" will
>>> be hugely helpful, but they won't necessarily be enough if aetheric energy
>>> is not working in your circuit in the first place, that is easily fixed,
>>> but just thought I should mention that, this is likely no harder than
>>> attaching the battery as I explained and joining wire the right way.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 1:53 PM John Berry <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have had an insight into Free Energy...
>>>>
>>>> Let's start off with 2 early discoverers of Free Energy...
>>>>
>>>> Both of them took multiple different metals...
>>>> Used them in an equal manner...
>>>> Buried them in the ground...
>>>> Connected to arc lamps...
>>>> Which glowed with a white light that seemed to be cold or differed from
>>>> conventional electricity.
>>>>
>>>> I have just described both Louis Rota and Nathan Stubblefield.
>>>>
>>>> Ok, let's try another...  this one didn't use earth energy and didn't
>>>> even use anything pretending to be electricity, but he took wire made of 3
>>>> layers of 3 different metals..  And got Free Energy.
>>>>
>>>> You might have guessed that one, it's Keely.
>>>>
>>>> Ok, how about someone who made a device that has been called "Tri Metal
>>>> Generator"?  That's Tesla, it used iron, Aluminium and Copper, though the
>>>> details besides that are sketchy...   Tesla also used Aluminium in his
>>>> Magnifying Transmitter (Aluminium tube) and the ground employed steel in
>>>> part I believe.
>>>> Also, if this multi metal thing is doing what I think, Conical and
>>>> pancake coils are an alternative or additional method.
>>>>
>>>> Ok, how about another who used both a ground and an Antenna, and then
>>>> just happened to include a large bar of lead and a bar of silver in
>>>> parallel?
>>>> That's Moray according to one witness!    For what conventional
>>>> purpose??
>>>>
>>>> How about 8 different claims of invisibility I have come across that
>>>> have employed conduction through copper and steel!?   Coincidence?  Maybe
>>>> more...
>>>>
>>>> Coler used pancake coils, and Silver wires in parts and iron rods
>>>> through which current was conducted.
>>>>
>>>> I can also argue that Daniel Mcfarland Cook, Hubbard, Perrigo,
>>>> Hendershot, Bedini all use iron in ways that differ from that of the normal
>>>> use, and from my tests this results in much the same result as if it were
>>>> included in the circuit..  One way if by using a split cylinder or tube,
>>>> the other is using a rod or bundle of iron wires wound with a copper
>>>> electromagnet, by being open circuit the energy from the iron mingles with
>>>> the copper.
>>>>
>>>> Some or all version's of Floyd Sweet's device included an Aluminium
>>>> Pipe or cage that is magnet and coils sat inside of.  A strange details.
>>>>
>>>> Carbon brushes would count...  A lot of people consider DC motors to
>>>> have a too high efficiency and to be prone to exhibiting the
>>>> characteristics to be made OU.
>>>> A number have also claimed carbon spark gaps have been involved in OU.
>>>>
>>>> Tesla Switch used a lot of very large batteries, so that involves
>>>> lead...
>>>>
>>>> Searl used rings of different materials and rollers of different
>>>> materials in parallel.
>>>>
>>>> Swiss ML (Paul Bauman) uses Aluminium cans and the Linden experiment
>>>> used iron wire (plus perspex and Copper and Aluminium), we should assume
>>>> iron wire is therefore used in the full machine as well.
>>>>
>>>> Ed Grey used a carbon block resistor...
>>>>
>>>> Steven Marks used steel/iron wires.
>>>>
>>>> Lakhosky's MWO might not be Free Energy, but he used a lot of different
>>>> diameter circles and then used different metals for the different rings.
>>>> This suggests some force comes into play when metals or materials are
>>>> mixed.
>>>>
>>>> Dotto's Ring reportedly levitated, and sometimes glowed, but it used
>>>> Copper and a segment of Constantin Alloy.
>>>>
>>>> Ronald Stiffler's TMB (Thermal Magnetic Battery) despite being
>>>> milivolts and microamps and without an inductive load, would sometimes have
>>>> a fat blue 1/4 inch arc when the circuit was broken, as well as responding
>>>> to movement of things in the area...  It passed electricity "somehow"
>>>> through a Ceramic magnet, though a cardboard or balsa layer, though plastic
>>>> film...  And it used Tin as one of the plates, as well as having a magnet
>>>> in series.
>>>>
>>>> C.Earl Ammann used iron wire coil to power a alarm which would have
>>>> used copper wire.
>>>>
>>>> There is a report that a steel Pyramid being welded levitated, so
>>>> that's steel and copper in the circuit.
>>>> There are other reports of welding causing things to vanish in Gerry
>>>> Vassalitos's books.
>>>>
>>>> Stan Deyo mentioned an antigravity experiment called the "Wedding cake
>>>> device" as it had 3 layers of Plywood circles and coils, but the coils were
>>>> wound with iron wire, but powered from a normal copper based power source.
>>>>
>>>> My own research supports the idea that metals and used correctly other
>>>> materials by being used together leads to a wider aetheric energy
>>>> bandwidth, by making the energy bandwidth involved larger, the aetheric
>>>> functions begins to affect to have a more dominant effect, it affects more
>>>> of the physical world when it's bandwidth is increased.
>>>>
>>>> This is pretty compelling!
>>>>
>>>> Now ask yourself, how  many unsuccessful experiments have not use ample
>>>> amounts of other metals besides a few drops of solder or a small battery
>>>> here or there?
>>>>
>>>> Norm, that buzzer, wasn't Steel effectively in that circuit?
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>
>> 
>

The best over unity device I've seen was Bedini large magneto charger it
had a lot of copper .he could run down a bank of big battery's cell tower
deleted batteries I think a wall full of them by draining with a wall full
of car head lights .then using a hand full of c cell flash light batterys
in series to hit charging voltage level .recharged that wall of batteries
in about a half hour with almost no drain on the c cells bringing the
batteries back up to full charge .thats thousands of Watts .with flash
light batteries and almost no drain on them . no one's beat that ..down
side not portable .expensive copper coils .

On Friday, August 17, 2018, John Berry [email protected] [EVGRAY] <
[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> Interesting, well, from an "aetheric perspective" there is a difference
> between applying heat to something with a blow touch, and ramming huge
> quantities of hot fluidized air through it, it is within the realm of
> plausibility that it would have caused the aether to circulate in the
> metal, especially is circular.
>
> Obviously a lot of welding is done on steel and invisibility isn't
> occurring all the time, so more than just current and metal is needed, some
> involvement of the aether is required in addition, but this is not hard to
> achieve either!
>
> Another insight I had is that we use ground and aerial antennas to receive
> a wide range of radio transmissions, this means that grounds and Aerial's
> are inherently wide-band!
>
> And arc and spark gaps are wideband...
>
> So when this analysis is done of Free Energy and other such claims, most
> have multi-metals, but also have several other things that expands energy
> bandwidth!
>
> Tesla always shows Motors (likely noise, EMF filled and multi metal carbon
> brush) and lights as loads in his patents, what if they are necessary and
> not just included as examples of electrical loads?!
>
> Coler had silver and iron, but he also had pancake coils.
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 18, 2018 at 12:03 AM Warren Keillor
> [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> John
>> A number of years ago whdn I sas hang glididing, since we have so few
>> really steep hills in Ontatio, that what was needed was  light weight
>> thruster. I welded and machined up a pulse jet engine from marine stainless
>> steel 316L tube and an aluminium intake port, almost the same as used to
>> power the WW2 buzz bombs, only five feet long.
>> We made a test stand up to measure the thrust with a sliding track and
>> spring scales, burning gasoline, after starting on methal alchohol. It ran
>> quite impressively developing a thrust of about 50 lbs.
>> After running steady for about five minutes, barking away with a deep
>> throated howl, it glowed a light translucent pink colour, from the
>> combustion chamber to two thirds the way along the exhaust stack.
>> It seemed you could almost see your hand through from the other side of
>> the engine.
>> The heat radiated off was amazing, so much so, that you would have to be
>> crazy to strap such a fire hazard to a flimsy dacron and aluminium kite,
>> and fly with it.
>> Further, one of the beauties of hang gliding, was the quiet joy. This was
>> like bringing a siren to a poetry reading.
>> The thing I was struck by, was the strange quality of the light from the
>> stainless steel combustion chamber and exhast pipe developed by the pulse
>> harmonics, seeming to be different than just heating it with an
>> oxyacetylene torch, making it appear transluscent pinky purple rather than
>> the orange yellow, white, one normally is used to.
>> After cooling down, it seemed fine except, of course, darkened, instead
>> of the polished stainless surface.
>> Just an observation of an old experiment.
>> Cheers Warren
>>
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>>
>> On Fri, 17 Aug 2018 at 12:47 AM, John Berry [email protected] [EVGRAY]
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Ok, so I am going to tell you about more than 8 but I will number the 8
>> things (actually 9), and not all invisibility, but I don't have links for
>> most.
>>
>> One was iron filings that passed a current (might have included
>> electrolytic solution), not invisibility, but the experimenter had a time
>> displacement like effect or something else weird, it came up when looking
>> into the next one...
>>
>> Ultra Mega (was a silly name given to it, I forget it's proper name, but
>> weird stuff has happened near it)  It is like a Joe Cell with current
>> passed through it from a generator. Can find more info in you are
>> interested, it relates to a Pre-Joe Cell "Joe Cell" and some wild stories
>> that go with it.
>>
>> 1 Welding steel with a certain technology now disused caused things near
>> the arc to become randomly invisible, based on Tesla, it is mentioned by
>> Gerry Vassalitos in one of his 2 books, read them, both worthwhile.
>>
>> 2 Bike transformer Keelynet, ok, I just looked for this and cannot easily
>> find it, but it was on Keelynet for a long time, it was an account of a
>> transformer that of made on a ride-able frame made of hollow steel tube and
>> resembled a bike, there was a dead man's switch, the first person who
>> started to use it began to vanish and let go of the switch, he
>> re-materialized, another guy wanted to try, he was more determined and
>> didn't let go of the switch till after he completely vanished, but came
>> back a babbling madman.   The point is it used steel tube and steel tube,
>> especially if it has a seam as most will have can transfer aetheric energy
>> to the copper coils.   This can be found if you search well enough, it
>> can't be gone.
>> Found it!  The Dallas Connection here: http://www.keelynet.com/
>> energy/dimshift.htm
>>
>> 3 coat hanger, this was told to me by a friend, they put a coat hanger
>> across a car battery and it turned red, then white, then went
>> transparent/invisible, but them pulled it off and it re-materialized I
>> believe.
>>
>> 4 paperclip Amsci, there is an account that can be found on Bill Beaty's
>> weird sci/amature sci pages where someone describes an experiment they did
>> as a kid, they took the amplifier from some UHF thing, hooked it up to
>> steel loop from one of those set top Antennas, and then they dangled a
>> paper clip on a string in the center of this field, it made the paperclip
>> vanish, and it re-materialized.
>>
>> Generator (Westinghouse?)  This was an account I heard from someone, he
>> claims that a friend or a friend of a friend working at a power generator
>> for the grid, probably a hydro dam, but whatever, when it had to be
>> disconnected suddenly from the grid (some emergency reason), all that
>> energy is still being generated but has no-where to go likely increased
>> hysteresis and eddy current losses like crazy, the steel began to turn
>> transparent, there was a "we don't talk about it' policy there.   Not
>> including this in the 9 as details are a bit thin on the ground.
>>
>> 5 Philo T. Pharnsworth, I think this was meant to be about his fusion
>> reactor, but some of the tubes he made that had steel elements would become
>> invisible or transparent,not sure where i read or heard it.
>>
>> 6 vacuum tube  vortex email list, Someone on there claimed that they had
>> seen steel elements in a vacuum tube become transparent or invisible.
>>
>> 7 screw x-former, Art Bell;  For a long time I remembered this guy's
>> name, now the best I can do is "Maybe Steve?", anyway he rang up Art Bell
>> in the day, and said he had made his own HV transformer, it was like a NST,
>> except the secondary he wound by hand and he described it as "Scramble
>> wound".
>> He found that when he threw steel screws towards the arc they would
>> vanish!    I would note that scramble wound involves wires crossing over
>> each other haphazardly at many different angles and as such, this is likely
>> "wide bandwidth" by my definition as well, also if the core of the
>> transformer was not conventional then the aether iron flux energy could
>> have entered the copper..
>>
>> Philadelphia experiment, Just sayin!  The Steel was always meant to be a
>> part of why this mythical experiment went crazy.
>>
>> 8 goat  keelynet;  ok, I found this one, here again, "The Michigan
>> Experiment" http://www.keelynet.com/energy/dimshift.htm
>> Ok, maybe this was not part of my initial 8 as we lack good info, but if
>> as shown, the energy from the magnets should enter the wire, so it should
>> have that going on, also current would be induced into the magnets, and the
>> permanent magnets are alloys (admittedly I am assuming they aren't ceramic)
>> and so should probably work by themselves in the induced energy is enough.
>>
>> Might be worth noting "The Missouri Connection" with Mike Marcum also
>> here: http://www.keelynet.com/energy/dimshift.htm
>> It might be this is actually another account of the Michigan experiment
>> above, there are few details and not enough to conclude that it even worked
>> let alone was used in the correct manner for my theory...
>>
>> Invisibility Document (I can dig up with some effort and send on
>> request); I am not considering this as part of the 8 it is similar to the
>> above 2 cases but with much ore info!
>> It seemingly would fall under the "mix of metals" except I have not read
>> it in detail enough to be convinced of that, but it involved 3 bucking
>> electromagnets (hence open magnetic circuits), the frequency would raise,
>> and IIRC the they chased in a circle.   Animals put in the center
>> disappeared, one can never came back but others did.
>>
>> In another case, a workman was seen by multiple witnesses to vanish near
>> a bunch of Antennas, Antenna's are inherently wide-band, and they are made
>> and supported with a mix of Copper, Aluminium and steel.
>>
>> Iron wire in Stan Deyo's report of the wedding cake Antiravity device,
>> this included a report of a visual disturbance underneath the device.
>>
>> 9 suit of Iron coils - lost tech archives :  Back in the 90's or early
>> 2000's there was a New Zealand outfit, like Rex Research called lost-tech
>> archives.  Sadly I have no idea where the info could be found now, but
>> someone had scoured old papers and such and found amazing accounts, one was
>> of a man with an invisibility suit made of iron wire coils, I have no other
>> info, but it is perfect for illustrating the connection between steel/iron
>> and invisibility.
>>
>> Stepped Pyramid;   Dan A. Davidson and others, Sure, no invisibility or
>> even visual disturbance in this example, however that antigravity should
>> come up with iron and electric currents, it supports my contention that
>> electrical currents and especially iron/steel (maybe steel because it is an
>> alloy so is a mix of different elements, think "frequencies' at an aetheric
>> level) done right can include an aetheric current capable of doing many
>> normally impossible things!
>>
>> Vacuum tube made invisibility ray   losttech; Or, was it an anti-gravity
>> ray, or both, the details are super vague in my head, but it was some
>> vacuum tube HV experiment that produced a ray that did something
>> interesting, vacuum tubes generally/always used some steel components to
>> handle the heat.
>>
>> Magnet, Pineal gland, Rawls and Davis, Also mentioned at that Keelynet
>> page, no electric current here, and no idea is the user became invisible,
>> but he apparently materialized to some being on a different plane of
>> reality, maybe of some slight relevance
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 5:36 AM Mick [email protected]
>> <[email protected]> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> Great points!  If it's not too difficult can you post the invisibility
>> experiments you are aware of.  This of course if they are in one place and
>> easy to link to.
>>
>> Also can you provide more info on the Stiffler battery?  I find Stiffler
>> very interesting and on point, he recently reappeared after many years of
>> hiatus due to a heart attack I think it was.
>>
>> Thanks for the great post.
>>
>> Mick
>>
>> On 8/15/2018 9:41 PM, John Berry [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>>
>> A bit of testing, and I can confirm that the more mass the better!
>>
>> So a few spots of soldier won't do much, but a block of lead, or a coil
>> of iron wire is a different story!
>>
>> It also seems advantageous to put materials in parallel as in the Moray
>> diagram, I think this creates an additional effect.
>>
>> I am not saying this is the only secret to Free Energy and harnessing of
>> aetheric energy, Far far from it, but I think this might be the best hidden
>> secret with the most potential that has been waiting to be seen!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 2:51 PM John Berry <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> I'll add a few more...
>>
>> So, it seems mass means something, Louis Rota (http://wikirota.org) used
>> large masses of multiple metals.
>>
>> Kapanadze used a big buried steel radiator connection to the ground.
>>
>> I need to check that, but we see it again with Moray, he didn't use a
>> sample of silver, despite it's price he used a largish bar of it!
>> http://www..diagrambay.today/circuit-t-henry-moray.html
>> <http://www.diagrambay.today/circuit-t-henry-moray.html>
>>
>> A few drops of Solider is likely not enough, nor likely would many
>> smaller batteries be as suited as larger batteries, also likely playes
>> aren't as good as wires, and wires aren't as good as bars, this is just
>> speculation, I need to test these theories.
>>
>> What about Joseph Newmann?  He uses small batteries?  Yes, but hundreds
>> of them, also I don't think his switches are all copper.  Also his magnet
>> is not in a closed magnetic mcircuit so it should contribute.
>>
>> What about John Hutchison?  Well, probably his Vandegraff and Tesla coil
>> terminals are not Copper, but moreover he has a high energy bandwidth due
>> to the different frequencies and energies he provides, so he achieves it a
>> different way.
>>
>> What about Markovitch  He might have used various metals, and he used a
>> crystal, but more over he uses what I consider to be another different way
>> of doing this, you offer energy 2 or more paths of different lengths, I am
>> not sure why it works, but it does work and it seems to create a similar
>> effect.
>>
>> What about the Adams motor?  This has an open magnetic circuit and so it
>> should apply.
>>
>> What about Paul Pantones GEET?  It uses copper pipes and iron rod and
>> steel.
>>
>> The Joe Cell does wonders when installed in cars, the energy works with
>> what is in the car which includes many different energies and materials.
>>
>> So... use multiple metals, more mass is better (probably), ideally in
>> series or parallel, otherwise as a cut cylinder C or a wire or rod inside.
>> Also a Conical or Pancake coil...
>> Also some wires cut to a bunch of different lengths (used by Keely)
>>  Takes a few minutes to cut, does not need to be neat.
>> And some wires of different lengths (very short to long) in parallel...
>> (quicker to make if you use uninsulated wire)
>>
>> Also a totally different correlation, energy like this conducting along a
>> magnetic field does something for sure, previously mentioned here...
>> Also apply the negative pole of an additional otherwise unconnected
>> battery to a circuit (Ed Gray's split the positive means don't connect the
>> positive of one battery to the circuit IMO)
>>
>> Also arc lamps create a wide energy bandwidth!  They create lots of heat,
>> UV-C, UV-B, UV-A, full spectrum of visible light, Radio spectrum noise
>> (RFI), Plasma/ions and chemical reactions, Bucky balls are made, they make
>> sound.   The energy from them can couple into wires and other things and
>> feedback.
>> The aetheric energy released with the conventional energy becomes
>> conditioned, and recycled...
>>
>> A lot of Free Energy circuits have a portion that is isolated from the
>> ground or mains...
>>
>> Finally, Free Energy ideally requires a degree of de-coupling, a bridge
>> rectifier, or loose coupling transformer or other methods are good at
>> allowing energy to be induced that is not reflected back on the input as
>> increases current draw.
>>
>> If I am right, and I am personally certain that I am, then using multiple
>> metals and other methods to "increase the aetheric bandwidth" will be
>> hugely helpful, but they won't necessarily be enough if aetheric energy is
>> not working in your circuit in the first place, that is easily fixed, but
>> just thought I should mention that, this is likely no harder than attaching
>> the battery as I explained and joining wire the right way.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 1:53 PM John Berry <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> I have had an insight into Free Energy...
>>
>> Let's start off with 2 early discoverers of Free Energy...
>>
>> Both of them took multiple different metals...
>> Used them in an equal manner...
>> Buried them in the ground...
>> Connected to arc lamps...
>> Which glowed with a white light that seemed to be cold or differed from
>> conventional electricity.
>>
>> I have just described both Louis Rota and Nathan Stubblefield.
>>
>> Ok, let's try another...  this one didn't use earth energy and didn't
>> even use anything pretending to be electricity, but he took wire made of 3
>> layers of 3 different metals..  And got Free Energy.
>>
>> You might have guessed that one, it's Keely.
>>
>> Ok, how about someone who made a device that has been called "Tri Metal
>> Generator"?  That's Tesla, it used iron, Aluminium and Copper, though the
>> details besides that are sketchy...   Tesla also used Aluminium in his
>> Magnifying Transmitter (Aluminium tube) and the ground employed steel in
>> part I believe.
>> Also, if this multi metal thing is doing what I think, Conical and
>> pancake coils are an alternative or additional method.
>>
>> Ok, how about another who used both a ground and an Antenna, and then
>> just happened to include a large bar of lead and a bar of silver in
>> parallel?
>> That's Moray according to one witness!    For what conventional purpose??
>>
>> How about 8 different claims of invisibility I have come across that have
>> employed conduction through copper and steel!?   Coincidence?  Maybe more...
>>
>> Coler used pancake coils, and Silver wires in parts and iron rods through
>> which current was conducted.
>>
>> I can also argue that Daniel Mcfarland Cook, Hubbard, Perrigo,
>> Hendershot, Bedini all use iron in ways that differ from that of the normal
>> use, and from my tests this results in much the same result as if it were
>> included in the circuit..  One way if by using a split cylinder or tube,
>> the other is using a rod or bundle of iron wires wound with a copper
>> electromagnet, by being open circuit the energy from the iron mingles with
>> the copper.
>>
>> Some or all version's of Floyd Sweet's device included an Aluminium Pipe
>> or cage that is magnet and coils sat inside of.  A strange details.
>>
>> Carbon brushes would count...  A lot of people consider DC motors to have
>> a too high efficiency and to be prone to exhibiting the characteristics to
>> be made OU.
>> A number have also claimed carbon spark gaps have been involved in OU.
>>
>> Tesla Switch used a lot of very large batteries, so that involves lead...
>>
>> Searl used rings of different materials and rollers of different
>> materials in parallel.
>>
>> Swiss ML (Paul Bauman) uses Aluminium cans and the Linden experiment used
>> iron wire (plus perspex and Copper and Aluminium), we should assume iron
>> wire is therefore used in the full machine as well.
>>
>> Ed Grey used a carbon block resistor...
>>
>> Steven Marks used steel/iron wires.
>>
>> Lakhosky's MWO might not be Free Energy, but he used a lot of different
>> diameter circles and then used different metals for the different rings.
>> This suggests some force comes into play when metals or materials are
>> mixed.
>>
>> Dotto's Ring reportedly levitated, and sometimes glowed, but it used
>> Copper and a segment of Constantin Alloy.
>>
>> Ronald Stiffler's TMB (Thermal Magnetic Battery) despite being milivolts
>> and microamps and without an inductive load, would sometimes have a fat
>> blue 1/4 inch arc when the circuit was broken, as well as responding to
>> movement of things in the area...  It passed electricity "somehow" through
>> a Ceramic magnet, though a cardboard or balsa layer, though plastic
>> film...  And it used Tin as one of the plates, as well as having a magnet
>> in series.
>>
>> C.Earl Ammann used iron wire coil to power a alarm which would have used
>> copper wire.
>>
>> There is a report that a steel Pyramid being welded levitated, so that's
>> steel and copper in the circuit.
>> There are other reports of welding causing things to vanish in Gerry
>> Vassalitos's books.
>>
>> Stan Deyo mentioned an antigravity experiment called the "Wedding cake
>> device" as it had 3 layers of Plywood circles and coils, but the coils were
>> wound with iron wire, but powered from a normal copper based power source.
>>
>> My own research supports the idea that metals and used correctly other
>> materials by being used together leads to a wider aetheric energy
>> bandwidth, by making the energy bandwidth involved larger, the aetheric
>> functions begins to affect to have a more dominant effect, it affects more
>> of the physical world when it's bandwidth is increased.
>>
>> This is pretty compelling!
>>
>> Now ask yourself, how  many unsuccessful experiments have not use ample
>> amounts of other metals besides a few drops of solder or a small battery
>> here or there?
>>
>> Norm, that buzzer, wasn't Steel effectively in that circuit?
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>> 
>

Hi Warren
I bet you built this with help from your neighbor who built buzz bombs for the Germans in ww2 and who gave you degausser machine for your boat?
Kone

On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 12:47 AM John Berry [email protected]
[EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
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> Ok, so I am going to tell you about more than 8 but I will number the 8 things (actually 9), and not all invisibility, but I don't have links for most.




> 2 Bike transformer Keelynet, ok, I just looked for this and cannot easily find it, but it was on Keelynet for a long time, it was an account of a transformer that of made on a ride-able frame made of hollow steel tube and resembled a bike, there was a dead man's switch, the first person who started to use it began to vanish and let go of the switch, he re-materialized, another guy wanted to try, he was more determined and didn't let go of the switch till after he completely vanished, but came back a babbling madman.   The point is it used steel tube and steel tube, especially if it has a seam as most will have can transfer aetheric energy to the copper coils.   This can be found if you search well enough, it can't be gone.
> Found it!  The Dallas Connection here: http://www.keelynet.com/energy/dimshift.htm

Apparently you need to wear protective suit to prevent the babbling:

The PDF has the photo, the htm file has some of the context and comments.

https://web.archive.org/web/20061110233953/http://www.unusualresearch.com/drreno/inviman.pdf

https://web.archive.org/web/20070222205321/http://www.unusualresearch.com:80/drreno/inviman.htm

I know of no other info about this.  Anyone?

> Philadelphia experiment, Just sayin!  The Steel was always meant to be a part of why this mythical experiment went crazy.

https://web.archive.org/web/20070222233518/http://www.unusualresearch.com:80/drreno/filadelf.htm

newman motor > ? <
 

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 The best over unity device I've seen was Bedini large magneto charger it had a lot of copper .he could run down a bank of big battery's cell tower deleted batteries I think a wall full of them by draining with a wall full of car head lights .then using a hand full of c cell flash light batterys in series to hit charging voltage level .recharged that wall of batteries in about a half hour with almost no drain on the c cells bringing the batteries back up to full charge .thats thousands of Watts .with flash light batteries and almost no drain on them . no one's beat that ..down side not portable .expensive copper coils .

 On Friday, August 17, 2018, John Berry aether22@... mailto:aether22@... [EVGRAY] <[email protected] mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
   
 Interesting, well, from an "aetheric perspective" there is a difference between applying heat to something with a blow touch, and ramming huge quantities of hot fluidized air through it, it is within the realm of plausibility that it would have caused the aether to circulate in the metal, especially is circular. 

 Obviously a lot of welding is done on steel and invisibility isn't occurring all the time, so more than just current and metal is needed, some involvement of the aether is required in addition, but this is not hard to achieve either!
 

 Another insight I had is that we use ground and aerial antennas to receive a wide range of radio transmissions, this means that grounds and Aerial's are inherently wide-band!
 

 And arc and spark gaps are wideband...
 

 So when this analysis is done of Free Energy and other such claims, most have multi-metals, but also have several other things that expands energy bandwidth!
 

 Tesla always shows Motors (likely noise, EMF filled and multi metal carbon brush) and lights as loads in his patents, what if they are necessary and not just included as examples of electrical loads?!
 

 Coler had silver and iron, but he also had pancake coils.
 



 On Sat, Aug 18, 2018 at 12:03 AM Warren Keillor schoonersolsticemoon@... mailto:schoonersolsticemoon@... [EVGRAY] <[email protected] mailto:[email protected]> wrote:

   John
 A number of years ago whdn I sas hang glididing, since we have so few really steep hills in Ontatio, that what was needed was  light weight thruster. I welded and machined up a pulse jet engine from marine stainless steel 316L tube and an aluminium intake port, almost the same as used to power the WW2 buzz bombs, only five feet long.
 We made a test stand up to measure the thrust with a sliding track and spring scales, burning gasoline, after starting on methal alchohol. It ran quite impressively developing a thrust of about 50 lbs.
 After running steady for about five minutes, barking away with a deep throated howl, it glowed a light translucent pink colour, from the combustion chamber to two thirds the way along the exhaust stack.
 It seemed you could almost see your hand through from the other side of the engine.
 The heat radiated off was amazing, so much so, that you would have to be crazy to strap such a fire hazard to a flimsy dacron and aluminium kite, and fly with it.
 Further, one of the beauties of hang gliding, was the quiet joy. This was like bringing a siren to a poetry reading.
 The thing I was struck by, was the strange quality of the light from the stainless steel combustion chamber and exhast pipe developed by the pulse harmonics, seeming to be different than just heating it with an oxyacetylene torch, making it appear transluscent pinky purple rather than the orange yellow, white, one normally is used to.
 After cooling down, it seemed fine except, of course, darkened, instead of the polished stainless surface.
 Just an observation of an old experiment.
 Cheers Warren

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 On Fri, 17 Aug 2018 at 12:47 AM, John Berry aether22@... mailto:aether22@... [EVGRAY]
 <[email protected] mailto:[email protected]> wrote:

   
 Ok, so I am going to tell you about more than 8 but I will number the 8 things (actually 9), and not all invisibility, but I don't have links for most.
 

One was iron filings that passed a current (might have included electrolytic solution), not invisibility, but the experimenter had a time displacement like effect or something else weird, it came up when looking into the next one... 

 Ultra Mega (was a silly name given to it, I forget it's proper name, but weird stuff has happened near it)  It is like a Joe Cell with current passed through it from a generator. Can find more info in you are interested, it relates to a Pre-Joe Cell "Joe Cell" and some wild stories that go with it.
 

 1 Welding steel with a certain technology now disused caused things near the arc to become randomly invisible, based on Tesla, it is mentioned by Gerry Vassalitos in one of his 2 books, read them, both worthwhile.
 

 2 Bike transformer Keelynet, ok, I just looked for this and cannot easily find it, but it was on Keelynet for a long time, it was an account of a transformer that of made on a ride-able frame made of hollow steel tube and resembled a bike, there was a dead man's switch, the first person who started to use it began to vanish and let go of the switch, he re-materialized, another guy wanted to try, he was more determined and didn't let go of the switch till after he completely vanished, but came back a babbling madman.   The point is it used steel tube and steel tube, especially if it has a seam as most will have can transfer aetheric energy to the copper coils.   This can be found if you search well enough, it can't be gone.
 Found it!  The Dallas Connection here: http://www.keelynet.com/ energy/dimshift.htm http://www.keelynet.com/energy/dimshift.htm
 

 3 coat hanger, this was told to me by a friend, they put a coat hanger across a car battery and it turned red, then white, then went transparent/invisible, but them pulled it off and it re-materialized I believe.
 

 4 paperclip Amsci, there is an account that can be found on Bill Beaty's weird sci/amature sci pages where someone describes an experiment they did as a kid, they took the amplifier from some UHF thing, hooked it up to steel loop from one of those set top Antennas, and then they dangled a paper clip on a string in the center of this field, it made the paperclip vanish, and it re-materialized.
 

 Generator (Westinghouse?)  This was an account I heard from someone, he claims that a friend or a friend of a friend working at a power generator for the grid, probably a hydro dam, but whatever, when it had to be disconnected suddenly from the grid (some emergency reason), all that energy is still being generated but has no-where to go likely increased hysteresis and eddy current losses like crazy, the steel began to turn transparent, there was a "we don't talk about it' policy there.   Not including this in the 9 as details are a bit thin on the ground.

 

 5 Philo T. Pharnsworth, I think this was meant to be about his fusion reactor, but some of the tubes he made that had steel elements would become invisible or transparent,not sure where i read or heard it.
 

 6 vacuum tube  vortex email list, Someone on there claimed that they had seen steel elements in a vacuum tube become transparent or invisible.

 

 7 screw x-former, Art Bell;  For a long time I remembered this guy's name, now the best I can do is "Maybe Steve?", anyway he rang up Art Bell in the day, and said he had made his own HV transformer, it was like a NST, except the secondary he wound by hand and he described it as "Scramble wound".
 He found that when he threw steel screws towards the arc they would vanish!    I would note that scramble wound involves wires crossing over each other haphazardly at many different angles and as such, this is likely "wide bandwidth" by my definition as well, also if the core of the transformer was not conventional then the aether iron flux energy could have entered the copper..
 

 Philadelphia experiment, Just sayin!  The Steel was always meant to be a part of why this mythical experiment went crazy.
 

 8 goat  keelynet;  ok, I found this one, here again, "The Michigan Experiment" http://www. keelynet.com/energy/dimshift. htm http://www.keelynet.com/energy/dimshift.htm
 Ok, maybe this was not part of my initial 8 as we lack good info, but if as shown, the energy from the magnets should enter the wire, so it should have that going on, also current would be induced into the magnets, and the permanent magnets are alloys (admittedly I am assuming they aren't ceramic) and so should probably work by themselves in the induced energy is enough.
 

 Might be worth noting "The Missouri Connection" with Mike Marcum also here: http://www.keelynet.com/ energy/dimshift.htm http://www.keelynet.com/energy/dimshift.htm
 It might be this is actually another account of the Michigan experiment above, there are few details and not enough to conclude that it even worked let alone was used in the correct manner for my theory...
 

 Invisibility Document (I can dig up with some effort and send on request); I am not considering this as part of the 8 it is similar to the above 2 cases but with much ore info!
 It seemingly would fall under the "mix of metals" except I have not read it in detail enough to be convinced of that, but it involved 3 bucking electromagnets (hence open magnetic circuits), the frequency would raise, and IIRC the they chased in a circle.   Animals put in the center disappeared, one can never came back but others did.
 

 In another case, a workman was seen by multiple witnesses to vanish near a bunch of Antennas, Antenna's are inherently wide-band, and they are made and supported with a mix of Copper, Aluminium and steel.
 

 Iron wire in Stan Deyo's report of the wedding cake Antiravity device, this included a report of a visual disturbance underneath the device.
 

 9 suit of Iron coils - lost tech archives :  Back in the 90's or early 2000's there was a New Zealand outfit, like Rex Research called lost-tech archives.  Sadly I have no idea where the info could be found now, but someone had scoured old papers and such and found amazing accounts, one was of a man with an invisibility suit made of iron wire coils, I have no other info, but it is perfect for illustrating the connection between steel/iron and invisibility.
 

 Stepped Pyramid;   Dan A. Davidson and others, Sure, no invisibility or even visual disturbance in this example, however that antigravity should come up with iron and electric currents, it supports my contention that electrical currents and especially iron/steel (maybe steel because it is an alloy so is a mix of different elements, think "frequencies' at an aetheric level) done right can include an aetheric current capable of doing many normally impossible things!
 

 Vacuum tube made invisibility ray   losttech; Or, was it an anti-gravity ray, or both, the details are super vague in my head, but it was some vacuum tube HV experiment that produced a ray that did something interesting, vacuum tubes generally/always used some steel components to handle the heat.

 

 Magnet, Pineal gland, Rawls and Davis, Also mentioned at that Keelynet page, no electric current here, and no idea is the user became invisible, but he apparently materialized to some being on a different plane of reality, maybe of some slight relevance
 

 



 On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 5:36 AM Mick mkjekyll@... mailto:[email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected] mailto:[email protected]> wrote:

   
 Hi John,
 Great points!  If it's not too difficult can you post the invisibility experiments you are aware of.  This of course if they are in one place and easy to link to.
 Also can you provide more info on the Stiffler battery?  I find Stiffler very interesting and on point, he recently reappeared after many years of hiatus due to a heart attack I think it was.
 Thanks for the great post.
 Mick

 
 On 8/15/2018 9:41 PM, John Berry aether22@... mailto:aether22@... [EVGRAY] wrote:

   A bit of testing, and I can confirm that the more mass the better! 

 So a few spots of soldier won't do much, but a block of lead, or a coil of iron wire is a different story!
 

 It also seems advantageous to put materials in parallel as in the Moray diagram, I think this creates an additional effect.
 

 I am not saying this is the only secret to Free Energy and harnessing of aetheric energy, Far far from it, but I think this might be the best hidden secret with the most potential that has been waiting to be seen!
 

 

 


 
 On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 2:51 PM John Berry <aether22@... mailto:aether22@...> wrote:

 I'll add a few more... 

 So, it seems mass means something, Louis Rota (http://wikirota.org http://wikirota.org) used large masses of multiple metals.
 

 Kapanadze used a big buried steel radiator connection to the ground.
 

 I need to check that, but we see it again with Moray, he didn't use a sample of silver, despite it's price he used a largish bar of it!
 http://www..diagrambay.today/ circuit-t-henry-moray.html http://www.diagrambay.today/circuit-t-henry-moray.html

 

 A few drops of Solider is likely not enough, nor likely would many smaller batteries be as suited as larger batteries, also likely playes aren't as good as wires, and wires aren't as good as bars, this is just speculation, I need to test these theories.
 

 What about Joseph Newmann?  He uses small batteries?  Yes, but hundreds of them, also I don't think his switches are all copper.  Also his magnet is not in a closed magnetic mcircuit so it should contribute.
 

 What about John Hutchison?  Well, probably his Vandegraff and Tesla coil terminals are not Copper, but moreover he has a high energy bandwidth due to the different frequencies and energies he provides, so he achieves it a different way.
 

 What about Markovitch  He might have used various metals, and he used a crystal, but more over he uses what I consider to be another different way of doing this, you offer energy 2 or more paths of different lengths, I am not sure why it works, but it does work and it seems to create a similar effect.
 

 What about the Adams motor?  This has an open magnetic circuit and so it should apply.
 

 What about Paul Pantones GEET?  It uses copper pipes and iron rod and steel.
 

 The Joe Cell does wonders when installed in cars, the energy works with what is in the car which includes many different energies and materials.
 

 So... use multiple metals, more mass is better (probably), ideally in series or parallel, otherwise as a cut cylinder C or a wire or rod inside.
 Also a Conical or Pancake coil...
 Also some wires cut to a bunch of different lengths (used by Keely)   Takes a few minutes to cut, does not need to be neat.
 And some wires of different lengths (very short to long) in parallel... (quicker to make if you use uninsulated wire)
 

 Also a totally different correlation, energy like this conducting along a magnetic field does something for sure, previously mentioned here...
 Also apply the negative pole of an additional otherwise unconnected battery to a circuit (Ed Gray's split the positive means don't connect the positive of one battery to the circuit IMO)
 

 Also arc lamps create a wide energy bandwidth!  They create lots of heat, UV-C, UV-B, UV-A, full spectrum of visible light, Radio spectrum noise (RFI), Plasma/ions and chemical reactions, Bucky balls are made, they make sound.   The energy from them can couple into wires and other things and feedback.
 The aetheric energy released with the conventional energy becomes conditioned, and recycled...
 

 A lot of Free Energy circuits have a portion that is isolated from the ground or mains...
 

 Finally, Free Energy ideally requires a degree of de-coupling, a bridge rectifier, or loose coupling transformer or other methods are good at allowing energy to be induced that is not reflected back on the input as increases current draw.
 

 If I am right, and I am personally certain that I am, then using multiple metals and other methods to "increase the aetheric bandwidth" will be hugely helpful, but they won't necessarily be enough if aetheric energy is not working in your circuit in the first place, that is easily fixed, but just thought I should mention that, this is likely no harder than attaching the battery as I explained and joining wire the right way.
 


 
 On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 1:53 PM John Berry <aether22@... mailto:aether22@...> wrote:

 I have had an insight into Free Energy... 

 Let's start off with 2 early discoverers of Free Energy...
 

 Both of them took multiple different metals...
 Used them in an equal manner...
 Buried them in the ground...
 Connected to arc lamps...
 Which glowed with a white light that seemed to be cold or differed from conventional electricity.
 

 I have just described both Louis Rota and Nathan Stubblefield.
 

 Ok, let's try another...  this one didn't use earth energy and didn't even use anything pretending to be electricity, but he took wire made of 3 layers of 3 different metals..  And got Free Energy.
 

 You might have guessed that one, it's Keely.
 

 Ok, how about someone who made a device that has been called "Tri Metal Generator"?  That's Tesla, it used iron, Aluminium and Copper, though the details besides that are sketchy...   Tesla also used Aluminium in his Magnifying Transmitter (Aluminium tube) and the ground employed steel in part I believe.
 Also, if this multi metal thing is doing what I think, Conical and pancake coils are an alternative or additional method.
 

 Ok, how about another who used both a ground and an Antenna, and then just happened to include a large bar of lead and a bar of silver in parallel?
 That's Moray according to one witness!    For what conventional purpose??
 

 How about 8 different claims of invisibility I have come across that have employed conduction through copper and steel!?   Coincidence?  Maybe more...
 

 Coler used pancake coils, and Silver wires in parts and iron rods through which current was conducted.
 

 I can also argue that Daniel Mcfarland Cook, Hubbard, Perrigo, Hendershot, Bedini all use iron in ways that differ from that of the normal use, and from my tests this results in much the same result as if it were included in the circuit..  One way if by using a split cylinder or tube, the other is using a rod or bundle of iron wires wound with a copper electromagnet, by being open circuit the energy from the iron mingles with the copper.
 

 Some or all version's of Floyd Sweet's device included an Aluminium Pipe or cage that is magnet and coils sat inside of.  A strange details.
 

 Carbon brushes would count...  A lot of people consider DC motors to have a too high efficiency and to be prone to exhibiting the characteristics to be made OU.
 A number have also claimed carbon spark gaps have been involved in OU.
 

 Tesla Switch used a lot of very large batteries, so that involves lead...
 

 Searl used rings of different materials and rollers of different materials in parallel.
 

 Swiss ML (Paul Bauman) uses Aluminium cans and the Linden experiment used iron wire (plus perspex and Copper and Aluminium), we should assume iron wire is therefore used in the full machine as well.
 

 Ed Grey used a carbon block resistor...
 

 Steven Marks used steel/iron wires.
 

 Lakhosky's MWO might not be Free Energy, but he used a lot of different diameter circles and then used different metals for the different rings.
 This suggests some force comes into play when metals or materials are mixed.
 

 Dotto's Ring reportedly levitated, and sometimes glowed, but it used Copper and a segment of Constantin Alloy.
 

 Ronald Stiffler's TMB (Thermal Magnetic Battery) despite being milivolts and microamps and without an inductive load, would sometimes have a fat blue 1/4 inch arc when the circuit was broken, as well as responding to movement of things in the area...  It passed electricity "somehow" through a Ceramic magnet, though a cardboard or balsa layer, though plastic film...  And it used Tin as one of the plates, as well as having a magnet in series.
 

 C.Earl Ammann used iron wire coil to power a alarm which would have used copper wire.
 

 There is a report that a steel Pyramid being welded levitated, so that's steel and copper in the circuit.
 There are other reports of welding causing things to vanish in Gerry Vassalitos's books.
 

 Stan Deyo mentioned an antigravity experiment called the "Wedding cake device" as it had 3 layers of Plywood circles and coils, but the coils were wound with iron wire, but powered from a normal copper based power source.
 

 My own research supports the idea that metals and used correctly other materials by being used together leads to a wider aetheric energy bandwidth, by making the energy bandwidth involved larger, the aetheric functions begins to affect to have a more dominant effect, it affects more of the physical world when it's bandwidth is increased.
 

 This is pretty compelling!
 

 Now ask yourself, how  many unsuccessful experiments have not use ample amounts of other metals besides a few drops of solder or a small battery here or there?
 

 Norm, that buzzer, wasn't Steel effectively in that circuit?
 

 John

Interesting, well, from an "aetheric perspective" there is a difference
between applying heat to something with a blow touch, and ramming huge
quantities of hot fluidized air through it, it is within the realm of
plausibility that it would have caused the aether to circulate in the
metal, especially is circular.

Obviously a lot of welding is done on steel and invisibility isn't
occurring all the time, so more than just current and metal is needed, some
involvement of the aether is required in addition, but this is not hard to
achieve either!

Another insight I had is that we use ground and aerial antennas to receive
a wide range of radio transmissions, this means that grounds and Aerial's
are inherently wide-band!

And arc and spark gaps are wideband...

So when this analysis is done of Free Energy and other such claims, most
have multi-metals, but also have several other things that expands energy
bandwidth!

Tesla always shows Motors (likely noise, EMF filled and multi metal carbon
brush) and lights as loads in his patents, what if they are necessary and
not just included as examples of electrical loads?!

Coler had silver and iron, but he also had pancake coils.


On Sat, Aug 18, 2018 at 12:03 AM Warren Keillor
[email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> John
> A number of years ago whdn I sas hang glididing, since we have so few
> really steep hills in Ontatio, that what was needed was  light weight
> thruster. I welded and machined up a pulse jet engine from marine stainless
> steel 316L tube and an aluminium intake port, almost the same as used to
> power the WW2 buzz bombs, only five feet long.
> We made a test stand up to measure the thrust with a sliding track and
> spring scales, burning gasoline, after starting on methal alchohol. It ran
> quite impressively developing a thrust of about 50 lbs.
> After running steady for about five minutes, barking away with a deep
> throated howl, it glowed a light translucent pink colour, from the
> combustion chamber to two thirds the way along the exhaust stack.
> It seemed you could almost see your hand through from the other side of
> the engine.
> The heat radiated off was amazing, so much so, that you would have to be
> crazy to strap such a fire hazard to a flimsy dacron and aluminium kite,
> and fly with it.
> Further, one of the beauties of hang gliding, was the quiet joy. This was
> like bringing a siren to a poetry reading.
> The thing I was struck by, was the strange quality of the light from the
> stainless steel combustion chamber and exhast pipe developed by the pulse
> harmonics, seeming to be different than just heating it with an
> oxyacetylene torch, making it appear transluscent pinky purple rather than
> the orange yellow, white, one normally is used to.
> After cooling down, it seemed fine except, of course, darkened, instead of
> the polished stainless surface.
> Just an observation of an old experiment.
> Cheers Warren
>
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> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>
> On Fri, 17 Aug 2018 at 12:47 AM, John Berry [email protected] [EVGRAY]
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Ok, so I am going to tell you about more than 8 but I will number the 8
> things (actually 9), and not all invisibility, but I don't have links for
> most.
>
> One was iron filings that passed a current (might have included
> electrolytic solution), not invisibility, but the experimenter had a time
> displacement like effect or something else weird, it came up when looking
> into the next one...
>
> Ultra Mega (was a silly name given to it, I forget it's proper name, but
> weird stuff has happened near it)  It is like a Joe Cell with current
> passed through it from a generator. Can find more info in you are
> interested, it relates to a Pre-Joe Cell "Joe Cell" and some wild stories
> that go with it.
>
> 1 Welding steel with a certain technology now disused caused things near
> the arc to become randomly invisible, based on Tesla, it is mentioned by
> Gerry Vassalitos in one of his 2 books, read them, both worthwhile.
>
> 2 Bike transformer Keelynet, ok, I just looked for this and cannot easily
> find it, but it was on Keelynet for a long time, it was an account of a
> transformer that of made on a ride-able frame made of hollow steel tube and
> resembled a bike, there was a dead man's switch, the first person who
> started to use it began to vanish and let go of the switch, he
> re-materialized, another guy wanted to try, he was more determined and
> didn't let go of the switch till after he completely vanished, but came
> back a babbling madman.   The point is it used steel tube and steel tube,
> especially if it has a seam as most will have can transfer aetheric energy
> to the copper coils.   This can be found if you search well enough, it
> can't be gone.
> Found it!  The Dallas Connection here:
> http://www.keelynet.com/energy/dimshift.htm
>
> 3 coat hanger, this was told to me by a friend, they put a coat hanger
> across a car battery and it turned red, then white, then went
> transparent/invisible, but them pulled it off and it re-materialized I
> believe.
>
> 4 paperclip Amsci, there is an account that can be found on Bill Beaty's
> weird sci/amature sci pages where someone describes an experiment they did
> as a kid, they took the amplifier from some UHF thing, hooked it up to
> steel loop from one of those set top Antennas, and then they dangled a
> paper clip on a string in the center of this field, it made the paperclip
> vanish, and it re-materialized.
>
> Generator (Westinghouse?)  This was an account I heard from someone, he
> claims that a friend or a friend of a friend working at a power generator
> for the grid, probably a hydro dam, but whatever, when it had to be
> disconnected suddenly from the grid (some emergency reason), all that
> energy is still being generated but has no-where to go likely increased
> hysteresis and eddy current losses like crazy, the steel began to turn
> transparent, there was a "we don't talk about it' policy there.   Not
> including this in the 9 as details are a bit thin on the ground.
>
> 5 Philo T. Pharnsworth, I think this was meant to be about his fusion
> reactor, but some of the tubes he made that had steel elements would become
> invisible or transparent,not sure where i read or heard it.
>
> 6 vacuum tube  vortex email list, Someone on there claimed that they had
> seen steel elements in a vacuum tube become transparent or invisible.
>
> 7 screw x-former, Art Bell;  For a long time I remembered this guy's name,
> now the best I can do is "Maybe Steve?", anyway he rang up Art Bell in the
> day, and said he had made his own HV transformer, it was like a NST, except
> the secondary he wound by hand and he described it as "Scramble wound".
> He found that when he threw steel screws towards the arc they would
> vanish!    I would note that scramble wound involves wires crossing over
> each other haphazardly at many different angles and as such, this is likely
> "wide bandwidth" by my definition as well, also if the core of the
> transformer was not conventional then the aether iron flux energy could
> have entered the copper..
>
> Philadelphia experiment, Just sayin!  The Steel was always meant to be a
> part of why this mythical experiment went crazy.
>
> 8 goat  keelynet;  ok, I found this one, here again, "The Michigan
> Experiment" http://www.keelynet.com/energy/dimshift.htm
> Ok, maybe this was not part of my initial 8 as we lack good info, but if
> as shown, the energy from the magnets should enter the wire, so it should
> have that going on, also current would be induced into the magnets, and the
> permanent magnets are alloys (admittedly I am assuming they aren't ceramic)
> and so should probably work by themselves in the induced energy is enough.
>
> Might be worth noting "The Missouri Connection" with Mike Marcum also
> here: http://www.keelynet.com/energy/dimshift.htm
> It might be this is actually another account of the Michigan experiment
> above, there are few details and not enough to conclude that it even worked
> let alone was used in the correct manner for my theory...
>
> Invisibility Document (I can dig up with some effort and send on request);
> I am not considering this as part of the 8 it is similar to the above 2
> cases but with much ore info!
> It seemingly would fall under the "mix of metals" except I have not read
> it in detail enough to be convinced of that, but it involved 3 bucking
> electromagnets (hence open magnetic circuits), the frequency would raise,
> and IIRC the they chased in a circle.   Animals put in the center
> disappeared, one can never came back but others did.
>
> In another case, a workman was seen by multiple witnesses to vanish near a
> bunch of Antennas, Antenna's are inherently wide-band, and they are made
> and supported with a mix of Copper, Aluminium and steel.
>
> Iron wire in Stan Deyo's report of the wedding cake Antiravity device,
> this included a report of a visual disturbance underneath the device.
>
> 9 suit of Iron coils - lost tech archives :  Back in the 90's or early
> 2000's there was a New Zealand outfit, like Rex Research called lost-tech
> archives.  Sadly I have no idea where the info could be found now, but
> someone had scoured old papers and such and found amazing accounts, one was
> of a man with an invisibility suit made of iron wire coils, I have no other
> info, but it is perfect for illustrating the connection between steel/iron
> and invisibility.
>
> Stepped Pyramid;   Dan A. Davidson and others, Sure, no invisibility or
> even visual disturbance in this example, however that antigravity should
> come up with iron and electric currents, it supports my contention that
> electrical currents and especially iron/steel (maybe steel because it is an
> alloy so is a mix of different elements, think "frequencies' at an aetheric
> level) done right can include an aetheric current capable of doing many
> normally impossible things!
>
> Vacuum tube made invisibility ray   losttech; Or, was it an anti-gravity
> ray, or both, the details are super vague in my head, but it was some
> vacuum tube HV experiment that produced a ray that did something
> interesting, vacuum tubes generally/always used some steel components to
> handle the heat.
>
> Magnet, Pineal gland, Rawls and Davis, Also mentioned at that Keelynet
> page, no electric current here, and no idea is the user became invisible,
> but he apparently materialized to some being on a different plane of
> reality, maybe of some slight relevance
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 5:36 AM Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi John,
>
> Great points!  If it's not too difficult can you post the invisibility
> experiments you are aware of.  This of course if they are in one place and
> easy to link to.
>
> Also can you provide more info on the Stiffler battery?  I find Stiffler
> very interesting and on point, he recently reappeared after many years of
> hiatus due to a heart attack I think it was.
>
> Thanks for the great post.
>
> Mick
>
> On 8/15/2018 9:41 PM, John Berry [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
>
> A bit of testing, and I can confirm that the more mass the better!
>
> So a few spots of soldier won't do much, but a block of lead, or a coil of
> iron wire is a different story!
>
> It also seems advantageous to put materials in parallel as in the Moray
> diagram, I think this creates an additional effect.
>
> I am not saying this is the only secret to Free Energy and harnessing of
> aetheric energy, Far far from it, but I think this might be the best hidden
> secret with the most potential that has been waiting to be seen!
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 2:51 PM John Berry <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I'll add a few more...
>
> So, it seems mass means something, Louis Rota (http://wikirota.org) used
> large masses of multiple metals.
>
> Kapanadze used a big buried steel radiator connection to the ground.
>
> I need to check that, but we see it again with Moray, he didn't use a
> sample of silver, despite it's price he used a largish bar of it!
> http://www.diagrambay.today/circuit-t-henry-moray.html
>
> A few drops of Solider is likely not enough, nor likely would many smaller
> batteries be as suited as larger batteries, also likely playes aren't as
> good as wires, and wires aren't as good as bars, this is just speculation,
> I need to test these theories.
>
> What about Joseph Newmann?  He uses small batteries?  Yes, but hundreds of
> them, also I don't think his switches are all copper.  Also his magnet is
> not in a closed magnetic mcircuit so it should contribute.
>
> What about John Hutchison?  Well, probably his Vandegraff and Tesla coil
> terminals are not Copper, but moreover he has a high energy bandwidth due
> to the different frequencies and energies he provides, so he achieves it a
> different way.
>
> What about Markovitch  He might have used various metals, and he used a
> crystal, but more over he uses what I consider to be another different way
> of doing this, you offer energy 2 or more paths of different lengths, I am
> not sure why it works, but it does work and it seems to create a similar
> effect.
>
> What about the Adams motor?  This has an open magnetic circuit and so it
> should apply.
>
> What about Paul Pantones GEET?  It uses copper pipes and iron rod and
> steel.
>
> The Joe Cell does wonders when installed in cars, the energy works with
> what is in the car which includes many different energies and materials.
>
> So... use multiple metals, more mass is better (probably), ideally in
> series or parallel, otherwise as a cut cylinder C or a wire or rod inside.
> Also a Conical or Pancake coil...
> Also some wires cut to a bunch of different lengths (used by Keely)
>  Takes a few minutes to cut, does not need to be neat.
> And some wires of different lengths (very short to long) in parallel...
> (quicker to make if you use uninsulated wire)
>
> Also a totally different correlation, energy like this conducting along a
> magnetic field does something for sure, previously mentioned here...
> Also apply the negative pole of an additional otherwise unconnected
> battery to a circuit (Ed Gray's split the positive means don't connect the
> positive of one battery to the circuit IMO)
>
> Also arc lamps create a wide energy bandwidth!  They create lots of heat,
> UV-C, UV-B, UV-A, full spectrum of visible light, Radio spectrum noise
> (RFI), Plasma/ions and chemical reactions, Bucky balls are made, they make
> sound.   The energy from them can couple into wires and other things and
> feedback.
> The aetheric energy released with the conventional energy becomes
> conditioned, and recycled...
>
> A lot of Free Energy circuits have a portion that is isolated from the
> ground or mains...
>
> Finally, Free Energy ideally requires a degree of de-coupling, a bridge
> rectifier, or loose coupling transformer or other methods are good at
> allowing energy to be induced that is not reflected back on the input as
> increases current draw.
>
> If I am right, and I am personally certain that I am, then using multiple
> metals and other methods to "increase the aetheric bandwidth" will be
> hugely helpful, but they won't necessarily be enough if aetheric energy is
> not working in your circuit in the first place, that is easily fixed, but
> just thought I should mention that, this is likely no harder than attaching
> the battery as I explained and joining wire the right way.
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 1:53 PM John Berry <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I have had an insight into Free Energy...
>
> Let's start off with 2 early discoverers of Free Energy...
>
> Both of them took multiple different metals...
> Used them in an equal manner...
> Buried them in the ground...
> Connected to arc lamps...
> Which glowed with a white light that seemed to be cold or differed from
> conventional electricity.
>
> I have just described both Louis Rota and Nathan Stubblefield.
>
> Ok, let's try another...  this one didn't use earth energy and didn't even
> use anything pretending to be electricity, but he took wire made of 3
> layers of 3 different metals..  And got Free Energy.
>
> You might have guessed that one, it's Keely.
>
> Ok, how about someone who made a device that has been called "Tri Metal
> Generator"?  That's Tesla, it used iron, Aluminium and Copper, though the
> details besides that are sketchy...   Tesla also used Aluminium in his
> Magnifying Transmitter (Aluminium tube) and the ground employed steel in
> part I believe.
> Also, if this multi metal thing is doing what I think, Conical and pancake
> coils are an alternative or additional method.
>
> Ok, how about another who used both a ground and an Antenna, and then just
> happened to include a large bar of lead and a bar of silver in parallel?
> That's Moray according to one witness!    For what conventional purpose??
>
> How about 8 different claims of invisibility I have come across that have
> employed conduction through copper and steel!?   Coincidence?  Maybe more...
>
> Coler used pancake coils, and Silver wires in parts and iron rods through
> which current was conducted.
>
> I can also argue that Daniel Mcfarland Cook, Hubbard, Perrigo, Hendershot,
> Bedini all use iron in ways that differ from that of the normal use, and
> from my tests this results in much the same result as if it were included
> in the circuit..  One way if by using a split cylinder or tube, the other
> is using a rod or bundle of iron wires wound with a copper electromagnet,
> by being open circuit the energy from the iron mingles with the copper.
>
> Some or all version's of Floyd Sweet's device included an Aluminium Pipe
> or cage that is magnet and coils sat inside of.  A strange details.
>
> Carbon brushes would count...  A lot of people consider DC motors to have
> a too high efficiency and to be prone to exhibiting the characteristics to
> be made OU.
> A number have also claimed carbon spark gaps have been involved in OU.
>
> Tesla Switch used a lot of very large batteries, so that involves lead...
>
> Searl used rings of different materials and rollers of different materials
> in parallel.
>
> Swiss ML (Paul Bauman) uses Aluminium cans and the Linden experiment used
> iron wire (plus perspex and Copper and Aluminium), we should assume iron
> wire is therefore used in the full machine as well.
>
> Ed Grey used a carbon block resistor...
>
> Steven Marks used steel/iron wires.
>
> Lakhosky's MWO might not be Free Energy, but he used a lot of different
> diameter circles and then used different metals for the different rings.
> This suggests some force comes into play when metals or materials are
> mixed.
>
> Dotto's Ring reportedly levitated, and sometimes glowed, but it used
> Copper and a segment of Constantin Alloy.
>
> Ronald Stiffler's TMB (Thermal Magnetic Battery) despite being milivolts
> and microamps and without an inductive load, would sometimes have a fat
> blue 1/4 inch arc when the circuit was broken, as well as responding to
> movement of things in the area...  It passed electricity "somehow" through
> a Ceramic magnet, though a cardboard or balsa layer, though plastic
> film...  And it used Tin as one of the plates, as well as having a magnet
> in series.
>
> C.Earl Ammann used iron wire coil to power a alarm which would have used
> copper wire.
>
> There is a report that a steel Pyramid being welded levitated, so that's
> steel and copper in the circuit.
> There are other reports of welding causing things to vanish in Gerry
> Vassalitos's books.
>
> Stan Deyo mentioned an antigravity experiment called the "Wedding cake
> device" as it had 3 layers of Plywood circles and coils, but the coils were
> wound with iron wire, but powered from a normal copper based power source.
>
> My own research supports the idea that metals and used correctly other
> materials by being used together leads to a wider aetheric energy
> bandwidth, by making the energy bandwidth involved larger, the aetheric
> functions begins to affect to have a more dominant effect, it affects more
> of the physical world when it's bandwidth is increased.
>
> This is pretty compelling!
>
> Now ask yourself, how  many unsuccessful experiments have not use ample
> amounts of other metals besides a few drops of solder or a small battery
> here or there?
>
> Norm, that buzzer, wasn't Steel effectively in that circuit?
>
> John
>
>
> 
>

Bob, I think that relates more to the case I mentioned with the guy who had
a suit of coils made with iron wire.

He was doing a stage act, and the bit I saw of it, it did mention he used
iron wire coils, this was a paper photocopy and i have no idea if i could
find it, but if i could it wouldn't be easy.

There was another one too which I didn't mention because it didn't suit the
steel/iron and current narrative, but it was a light that made things
invisible,very much like the more recent case of a Canadian with such a
light, actually, maybe it DOES fit the narritive, the light had a name that
suggested it was multi spectrum, and so was the Canadian inventor, was it
"Angel light" or something, anyway his used all sorts of lights, so maybe
this fits the multi spectral idea very well, just not the iron part.


On Sat, Aug 18, 2018 at 11:32 AM Bob Paddock [email protected] [EVGRAY]
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 12:47 AM John Berry [email protected]
> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Ok, so I am going to tell you about more than 8 but I will number the 8
> things (actually 9), and not all invisibility, but I don't have links for
> most.
>
> > 2 Bike transformer Keelynet, ok, I just looked for this and cannot
> easily find it, but it was on Keelynet for a long time, it was an account
> of a transformer that of made on a ride-able frame made of hollow steel
> tube and resembled a bike, there was a dead man's switch, the first person
> who started to use it began to vanish and let go of the switch, he
> re-materialized, another guy wanted to try, he was more determined and
> didn't let go of the switch till after he completely vanished, but came
> back a babbling madman. The point is it used steel tube and steel tube,
> especially if it has a seam as most will have can transfer aetheric energy
> to the copper coils. This can be found if you search well enough, it can't
> be gone.
> > Found it! The Dallas Connection here:
> http://www.keelynet.com/energy/dimshift.htm
>
> Apparently you need to wear protective suit to prevent the babbling:
>
> The PDF has the photo, the htm file has some of the context and comments.
>
>
> https://web.archive.org/web/20061110233953/http://www.unusualresearch.com/drreno/inviman.pdf
>
>
> https://web.archive.org/web/20070222205321/http://www.unusualresearch.com:80/drreno/inviman.htm
>
> I know of no other info about this. Anyone?
>
> > Philadelphia experiment, Just sayin! The Steel was always meant to be a
> part of why this mythical experiment went crazy.
>
>
> https://web.archive.org/web/20070222233518/http://www.unusualresearch.com:80/drreno/filadelf.htm
> 
>

So, the inventor of Angel light, an invisibility beam (with a death ray
side-effect, oops) is Troy Hurtubise.

It seems his claims have been reasonably confirmed, it makes things the
light hits invisible.

I recall him talking about it, and it involved a wide range of frequencies
and different types of lights, might have even involved microwaves, I'm not
sure, but it was very wide spectrum.

That Popular Science article, though the photocopy does not do it justice,
it is hard to debunk that, you can see the background appear as he
de-materializes.

But, the other thing, the name was Spectra or Spectro something, the name
suggested it was not a single anything.



On Sat, Aug 18, 2018 at 12:33 PM John Berry <[email protected]> wrote:

> Bob, I think that relates more to the case I mentioned with the guy who
> had a suit of coils made with iron wire.
>
> He was doing a stage act, and the bit I saw of it, it did mention he used
> iron wire coils, this was a paper photocopy and i have no idea if i could
> find it, but if i could it wouldn't be easy.
>
> There was another one too which I didn't mention because it didn't suit
> the steel/iron and current narrative, but it was a light that made things
> invisible,very much like the more recent case of a Canadian with such a
> light, actually, maybe it DOES fit the narritive, the light had a name that
> suggested it was multi spectrum, and so was the Canadian inventor, was it
> "Angel light" or something, anyway his used all sorts of lights, so maybe
> this fits the multi spectral idea very well, just not the iron part.
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 18, 2018 at 11:32 AM Bob Paddock [email protected]
> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 12:47 AM John Berry [email protected]
>> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Ok, so I am going to tell you about more than 8 but I will number the 8
>> things (actually 9), and not all invisibility, but I don't have links for
>> most.
>>
>> > 2 Bike transformer Keelynet, ok, I just looked for this and cannot
>> easily find it, but it was on Keelynet for a long time, it was an account
>> of a transformer that of made on a ride-able frame made of hollow steel
>> tube and resembled a bike, there was a dead man's switch, the first person
>> who started to use it began to vanish and let go of the switch, he
>> re-materialized, another guy wanted to try, he was more determined and
>> didn't let go of the switch till after he completely vanished, but came
>> back a babbling madman. The point is it used steel tube and steel tube,
>> especially if it has a seam as most will have can transfer aetheric energy
>> to the copper coils. This can be found if you search well enough, it can't
>> be gone.
>> > Found it! The Dallas Connection here:
>> http://www.keelynet.com/energy/dimshift.htm
>>
>> Apparently you need to wear protective suit to prevent the babbling:
>>
>> The PDF has the photo, the htm file has some of the context and comments.
>>
>>
>> https://web.archive.org/web/20061110233953/http://www.unusualresearch.com/drreno/inviman.pdf
>>
>>
>> https://web.archive.org/web/20070222205321/http://www.unusualresearch.com:80/drreno/inviman.htm
>>
>> I know of no other info about this. Anyone?
>>
>> > Philadelphia experiment, Just sayin! The Steel was always meant to be a
>> part of why this mythical experiment went crazy.
>>
>>
>> https://web.archive.org/web/20070222233518/http://www.unusualresearch.com:80/drreno/filadelf.htm
>> 
>>
>

Hi John,

The Angel Light and God Light I think are using frequency doubler technology. I remember an interview where Troy tells he's using blends of gases that researchers said would explode when shining LASER beams through them. The gases probably shift the frequency of the LASERs into wavelengths of cosmic waves. Perhaps by using optically nonlinear gases the frequency shifts are done like the heterodyne frequency shifts used in radio technology to make frequencies above the range of electronic components as well as stepping them down again in the receiving end. Something similar was done by the Nemescope of Dr. Elmer P. Nemes http://www.rexresearch.com/nemes/1nemes.htm to be able to see single atoms by using up to gamma ray radiation (cobalt gun) as light source and stepping down the frequency to the range visible by human eyes. This made it able to study living things that would have been killed if using electron microscopes and not limited by the resolution of electron microscopes.

Here is an Interview with Troy Hurtobise on the God Light (Sep. 2012):
http://www.americanantigravity.com/news/beyond/troy-hurtubise-on-god-light.html http://www.americanantigravity.com/news/beyond/troy-hurtubise-on-god-light.html

Too bad he recently died.

Interview on the Angel Light (Jan 2005): https://www.baytoday.ca/local-news/hurtubise-says-invention-sees-through-walls-baytodayca-exclusive-61176 https://www.baytoday.ca/local-news/hurtubise-says-invention-sees-through-walls-baytodayca-exclusive-61176

An Interview about the healing effects on humans of the God Light (May 2012): https://www.baytoday.ca/local-news/angel-light-ascends-to-god-light-part-two-baytodayca-exclusive-60022 https://www.baytoday.ca/local-news/angel-light-ascends-to-god-light-part-two-baytodayca-exclusive-60022

Regards
Ole
 

---In [email protected], <aether22@...> wrote :

 Norm, just looking at a photo of a shaded pole motor, wasn't this the kind of motor that you pules from when you unstuck locked ones? 

 The way the shorted copper turns are cut into the steel makes me think that this should have the shorted turns mix with the energy from the steel...
 

 So, are the motors you got the pulses from, were they like what I am describing?


 On Sat, Aug 18, 2018 at 12:42 PM John Berry <aether22@... mailto:aether22@...> wrote:

 So, the inventor of Angel light, an invisibility beam (with a death ray side-effect, oops) is Troy Hurtubise.
 

 It seems his claims have been reasonably confirmed, it makes things the light hits invisible.
 

 I recall him talking about it, and it involved a wide range of frequencies and different types of lights, might have even involved microwaves, I'm not sure, but it was very wide spectrum.
 

 That Popular Science article, though the photocopy does not do it justice, it is hard to debunk that, you can see the background appear as he de-materializes.
 

 But, the other thing, the name was Spectra or Spectro something, the name suggested it was not a single anything.
 

 



 On Sat, Aug 18, 2018 at 12:33 PM John Berry <aether22@... mailto:aether22@...> wrote:

 Bob, I think that relates more to the case I mentioned with the guy who had a suit of coils made with iron wire. 

 He was doing a stage act, and the bit I saw of it, it did mention he used iron wire coils, this was a paper photocopy and i have no idea if i could find it, but if i could it wouldn't be easy.
 

 There was another one too which I didn't mention because it didn't suit the steel/iron and current narrative, but it was a light that made things invisible,very much like the more recent case of a Canadian with such a light, actually, maybe it DOES fit the narritive, the light had a name that suggested it was multi spectrum, and so was the Canadian inventor, was it "Angel light" or something, anyway his used all sorts of lights, so maybe this fits the multi spectral idea very well, just not the iron part.
 



 On Sat, Aug 18, 2018 at 11:32 AM Bob Paddock bob.paddock@... mailto:bob.paddock@... [EVGRAY] <[email protected] mailto:[email protected]> wrote:

   On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 12:47 AM John Berry aether22@... mailto:aether22@...
 [EVGRAY] <[email protected] mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
 >
 >
 >
 > Ok, so I am going to tell you about more than 8 but I will number the 8 things (actually 9), and not all invisibility, but I don't have links for most.
 
 > 2 Bike transformer Keelynet, ok, I just looked for this and cannot easily find it, but it was on Keelynet for a long time, it was an account of a transformer that of made on a ride-able frame made of hollow steel tube and resembled a bike, there was a dead man's switch, the first person who started to use it began to vanish and let go of the switch, he re-materialized, another guy wanted to try, he was more determined and didn't let go of the switch till after he completely vanished, but came back a babbling madman. The point is it used steel tube and steel tube, especially if it has a seam as most will have can transfer aetheric energy to the copper coils. This can be found if you search well enough, it can't be gone.
 > Found it! The Dallas Connection here: http://www.keelynet.com/energy/dimshift.htm http://www.keelynet.com/energy/dimshift.htm
 
 Apparently you need to wear protective suit to prevent the babbling:
 
 The PDF has the photo, the htm file has some of the context and comments.
 
 https://web.archive.org/web/20061110233953/http://www.unusualresearch.com/drreno/inviman.pdf https://web.archive.org/web/20061110233953/http://www.unusualresearch.com/drreno/inviman.pdf
 
 https://web.archive.org/web/20070222205321/http://www.unusualresearch.com:80/drreno/inviman.htm https://web.archive.org/web/20070222205321/http://www.unusualresearch.com:80/drreno/inviman.htm
 
 I know of no other info about this. Anyone?
 
 > Philadelphia experiment, Just sayin! The Steel was always meant to be a part of why this mythical experiment went crazy.
 
 https://web.archive.org/web/20070222233518/http://www.unusualresearch.com:80/drreno/filadelf.htm https://web.archive.org/web/20070222233518/http://www.unusualresearch.com:80/drreno/filadelf.htm

Norm, just looking at a photo of a shaded pole motor, wasn't this the kind
of motor that you pules from when you unstuck locked ones?

The way the shorted copper turns are cut into the steel makes me think that
this should have the shorted turns mix with the energy from the steel...

So, are the motors you got the pulses from, were they like what I am
describing?

On Sat, Aug 18, 2018 at 12:42 PM John Berry <[email protected]> wrote:

> So, the inventor of Angel light, an invisibility beam (with a death ray
> side-effect, oops) is Troy Hurtubise.
>
> It seems his claims have been reasonably confirmed, it makes things the
> light hits invisible.
>
> I recall him talking about it, and it involved a wide range of frequencies
> and different types of lights, might have even involved microwaves, I'm not
> sure, but it was very wide spectrum.
>
> That Popular Science article, though the photocopy does not do it justice,
> it is hard to debunk that, you can see the background appear as he
> de-materializes.
>
> But, the other thing, the name was Spectra or Spectro something, the name
> suggested it was not a single anything.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 18, 2018 at 12:33 PM John Berry <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Bob, I think that relates more to the case I mentioned with the guy who
>> had a suit of coils made with iron wire.
>>
>> He was doing a stage act, and the bit I saw of it, it did mention he used
>> iron wire coils, this was a paper photocopy and i have no idea if i could
>> find it, but if i could it wouldn't be easy.
>>
>> There was another one too which I didn't mention because it didn't suit
>> the steel/iron and current narrative, but it was a light that made things
>> invisible,very much like the more recent case of a Canadian with such a
>> light, actually, maybe it DOES fit the narritive, the light had a name that
>> suggested it was multi spectrum, and so was the Canadian inventor, was it
>> "Angel light" or something, anyway his used all sorts of lights, so maybe
>> this fits the multi spectral idea very well, just not the iron part.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 18, 2018 at 11:32 AM Bob Paddock [email protected]
>> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 12:47 AM John Berry [email protected]
>>> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Ok, so I am going to tell you about more than 8 but I will number the
>>> 8 things (actually 9), and not all invisibility, but I don't have links for
>>> most.
>>>
>>> > 2 Bike transformer Keelynet, ok, I just looked for this and cannot
>>> easily find it, but it was on Keelynet for a long time, it was an account
>>> of a transformer that of made on a ride-able frame made of hollow steel
>>> tube and resembled a bike, there was a dead man's switch, the first person
>>> who started to use it began to vanish and let go of the switch, he
>>> re-materialized, another guy wanted to try, he was more determined and
>>> didn't let go of the switch till after he completely vanished, but came
>>> back a babbling madman. The point is it used steel tube and steel tube,
>>> especially if it has a seam as most will have can transfer aetheric energy
>>> to the copper coils. This can be found if you search well enough, it can't
>>> be gone.
>>> > Found it! The Dallas Connection here:
>>> http://www.keelynet.com/energy/dimshift.htm
>>>
>>> Apparently you need to wear protective suit to prevent the babbling:
>>>
>>> The PDF has the photo, the htm file has some of the context and comments.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://web.archive.org/web/20061110233953/http://www.unusualresearch.com/drreno/inviman.pdf
>>>
>>>
>>> https://web.archive.org/web/20070222205321/http://www.unusualresearch.com:80/drreno/inviman.htm
>>>
>>> I know of no other info about this. Anyone?
>>>
>>> > Philadelphia experiment, Just sayin! The Steel was always meant to be
>>> a part of why this mythical experiment went crazy.
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>>> https://web.archive.org/web/20070222233518/http://www.unusualresearch.com:80/drreno/filadelf.htm
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