Re: [EVGRAY] Multi-Metals

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The best over unity device I've seen was Bedini large magneto charger it
had a lot of copper .he could run down a bank of big battery's cell tower
deleted batteries I think a wall full of them by draining with a wall full
of car head lights .then using a hand full of c cell flash light batterys
in series to hit charging voltage level .recharged that wall of batteries
in about a half hour with almost no drain on the c cells bringing the
batteries back up to full charge .thats thousands of Watts .with flash
light batteries and almost no drain on them . no one's beat that ..down
side not portable .expensive copper coils .

On Friday, August 17, 2018, John Berry [email protected] [EVGRAY] <
[email protected]> wrote:

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>
> Interesting, well, from an "aetheric perspective" there is a difference
> between applying heat to something with a blow touch, and ramming huge
> quantities of hot fluidized air through it, it is within the realm of
> plausibility that it would have caused the aether to circulate in the
> metal, especially is circular.
>
> Obviously a lot of welding is done on steel and invisibility isn't
> occurring all the time, so more than just current and metal is needed, some
> involvement of the aether is required in addition, but this is not hard to
> achieve either!
>
> Another insight I had is that we use ground and aerial antennas to receive
> a wide range of radio transmissions, this means that grounds and Aerial's
> are inherently wide-band!
>
> And arc and spark gaps are wideband...
>
> So when this analysis is done of Free Energy and other such claims, most
> have multi-metals, but also have several other things that expands energy
> bandwidth!
>
> Tesla always shows Motors (likely noise, EMF filled and multi metal carbon
> brush) and lights as loads in his patents, what if they are necessary and
> not just included as examples of electrical loads?!
>
> Coler had silver and iron, but he also had pancake coils.
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 18, 2018 at 12:03 AM Warren Keillor
> [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>
>> John
>> A number of years ago whdn I sas hang glididing, since we have so few
>> really steep hills in Ontatio, that what was needed was  light weight
>> thruster. I welded and machined up a pulse jet engine from marine stainless
>> steel 316L tube and an aluminium intake port, almost the same as used to
>> power the WW2 buzz bombs, only five feet long.
>> We made a test stand up to measure the thrust with a sliding track and
>> spring scales, burning gasoline, after starting on methal alchohol. It ran
>> quite impressively developing a thrust of about 50 lbs.
>> After running steady for about five minutes, barking away with a deep
>> throated howl, it glowed a light translucent pink colour, from the
>> combustion chamber to two thirds the way along the exhaust stack.
>> It seemed you could almost see your hand through from the other side of
>> the engine.
>> The heat radiated off was amazing, so much so, that you would have to be
>> crazy to strap such a fire hazard to a flimsy dacron and aluminium kite,
>> and fly with it.
>> Further, one of the beauties of hang gliding, was the quiet joy. This was
>> like bringing a siren to a poetry reading.
>> The thing I was struck by, was the strange quality of the light from the
>> stainless steel combustion chamber and exhast pipe developed by the pulse
>> harmonics, seeming to be different than just heating it with an
>> oxyacetylene torch, making it appear transluscent pinky purple rather than
>> the orange yellow, white, one normally is used to.
>> After cooling down, it seemed fine except, of course, darkened, instead
>> of the polished stainless surface.
>> Just an observation of an old experiment.
>> Cheers Warren
>>
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>> On Fri, 17 Aug 2018 at 12:47 AM, John Berry [email protected] [EVGRAY]
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Ok, so I am going to tell you about more than 8 but I will number the 8
>> things (actually 9), and not all invisibility, but I don't have links for
>> most.
>>
>> One was iron filings that passed a current (might have included
>> electrolytic solution), not invisibility, but the experimenter had a time
>> displacement like effect or something else weird, it came up when looking
>> into the next one...
>>
>> Ultra Mega (was a silly name given to it, I forget it's proper name, but
>> weird stuff has happened near it)  It is like a Joe Cell with current
>> passed through it from a generator. Can find more info in you are
>> interested, it relates to a Pre-Joe Cell "Joe Cell" and some wild stories
>> that go with it.
>>
>> 1 Welding steel with a certain technology now disused caused things near
>> the arc to become randomly invisible, based on Tesla, it is mentioned by
>> Gerry Vassalitos in one of his 2 books, read them, both worthwhile.
>>
>> 2 Bike transformer Keelynet, ok, I just looked for this and cannot easily
>> find it, but it was on Keelynet for a long time, it was an account of a
>> transformer that of made on a ride-able frame made of hollow steel tube and
>> resembled a bike, there was a dead man's switch, the first person who
>> started to use it began to vanish and let go of the switch, he
>> re-materialized, another guy wanted to try, he was more determined and
>> didn't let go of the switch till after he completely vanished, but came
>> back a babbling madman.   The point is it used steel tube and steel tube,
>> especially if it has a seam as most will have can transfer aetheric energy
>> to the copper coils.   This can be found if you search well enough, it
>> can't be gone.
>> Found it!  The Dallas Connection here: http://www.keelynet.com/
>> energy/dimshift.htm
>>
>> 3 coat hanger, this was told to me by a friend, they put a coat hanger
>> across a car battery and it turned red, then white, then went
>> transparent/invisible, but them pulled it off and it re-materialized I
>> believe.
>>
>> 4 paperclip Amsci, there is an account that can be found on Bill Beaty's
>> weird sci/amature sci pages where someone describes an experiment they did
>> as a kid, they took the amplifier from some UHF thing, hooked it up to
>> steel loop from one of those set top Antennas, and then they dangled a
>> paper clip on a string in the center of this field, it made the paperclip
>> vanish, and it re-materialized.
>>
>> Generator (Westinghouse?)  This was an account I heard from someone, he
>> claims that a friend or a friend of a friend working at a power generator
>> for the grid, probably a hydro dam, but whatever, when it had to be
>> disconnected suddenly from the grid (some emergency reason), all that
>> energy is still being generated but has no-where to go likely increased
>> hysteresis and eddy current losses like crazy, the steel began to turn
>> transparent, there was a "we don't talk about it' policy there.   Not
>> including this in the 9 as details are a bit thin on the ground.
>>
>> 5 Philo T. Pharnsworth, I think this was meant to be about his fusion
>> reactor, but some of the tubes he made that had steel elements would become
>> invisible or transparent,not sure where i read or heard it.
>>
>> 6 vacuum tube  vortex email list, Someone on there claimed that they had
>> seen steel elements in a vacuum tube become transparent or invisible.
>>
>> 7 screw x-former, Art Bell;  For a long time I remembered this guy's
>> name, now the best I can do is "Maybe Steve?", anyway he rang up Art Bell
>> in the day, and said he had made his own HV transformer, it was like a NST,
>> except the secondary he wound by hand and he described it as "Scramble
>> wound".
>> He found that when he threw steel screws towards the arc they would
>> vanish!    I would note that scramble wound involves wires crossing over
>> each other haphazardly at many different angles and as such, this is likely
>> "wide bandwidth" by my definition as well, also if the core of the
>> transformer was not conventional then the aether iron flux energy could
>> have entered the copper..
>>
>> Philadelphia experiment, Just sayin!  The Steel was always meant to be a
>> part of why this mythical experiment went crazy.
>>
>> 8 goat  keelynet;  ok, I found this one, here again, "The Michigan
>> Experiment" http://www.keelynet.com/energy/dimshift.htm
>> Ok, maybe this was not part of my initial 8 as we lack good info, but if
>> as shown, the energy from the magnets should enter the wire, so it should
>> have that going on, also current would be induced into the magnets, and the
>> permanent magnets are alloys (admittedly I am assuming they aren't ceramic)
>> and so should probably work by themselves in the induced energy is enough.
>>
>> Might be worth noting "The Missouri Connection" with Mike Marcum also
>> here: http://www.keelynet.com/energy/dimshift.htm
>> It might be this is actually another account of the Michigan experiment
>> above, there are few details and not enough to conclude that it even worked
>> let alone was used in the correct manner for my theory...
>>
>> Invisibility Document (I can dig up with some effort and send on
>> request); I am not considering this as part of the 8 it is similar to the
>> above 2 cases but with much ore info!
>> It seemingly would fall under the "mix of metals" except I have not read
>> it in detail enough to be convinced of that, but it involved 3 bucking
>> electromagnets (hence open magnetic circuits), the frequency would raise,
>> and IIRC the they chased in a circle.   Animals put in the center
>> disappeared, one can never came back but others did.
>>
>> In another case, a workman was seen by multiple witnesses to vanish near
>> a bunch of Antennas, Antenna's are inherently wide-band, and they are made
>> and supported with a mix of Copper, Aluminium and steel.
>>
>> Iron wire in Stan Deyo's report of the wedding cake Antiravity device,
>> this included a report of a visual disturbance underneath the device.
>>
>> 9 suit of Iron coils - lost tech archives :  Back in the 90's or early
>> 2000's there was a New Zealand outfit, like Rex Research called lost-tech
>> archives.  Sadly I have no idea where the info could be found now, but
>> someone had scoured old papers and such and found amazing accounts, one was
>> of a man with an invisibility suit made of iron wire coils, I have no other
>> info, but it is perfect for illustrating the connection between steel/iron
>> and invisibility.
>>
>> Stepped Pyramid;   Dan A. Davidson and others, Sure, no invisibility or
>> even visual disturbance in this example, however that antigravity should
>> come up with iron and electric currents, it supports my contention that
>> electrical currents and especially iron/steel (maybe steel because it is an
>> alloy so is a mix of different elements, think "frequencies' at an aetheric
>> level) done right can include an aetheric current capable of doing many
>> normally impossible things!
>>
>> Vacuum tube made invisibility ray   losttech; Or, was it an anti-gravity
>> ray, or both, the details are super vague in my head, but it was some
>> vacuum tube HV experiment that produced a ray that did something
>> interesting, vacuum tubes generally/always used some steel components to
>> handle the heat.
>>
>> Magnet, Pineal gland, Rawls and Davis, Also mentioned at that Keelynet
>> page, no electric current here, and no idea is the user became invisible,
>> but he apparently materialized to some being on a different plane of
>> reality, maybe of some slight relevance
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 5:36 AM Mick [email protected]
>> <[email protected]> [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>
>>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> Great points!  If it's not too difficult can you post the invisibility
>> experiments you are aware of.  This of course if they are in one place and
>> easy to link to.
>>
>> Also can you provide more info on the Stiffler battery?  I find Stiffler
>> very interesting and on point, he recently reappeared after many years of
>> hiatus due to a heart attack I think it was.
>>
>> Thanks for the great post.
>>
>> Mick
>>
>> On 8/15/2018 9:41 PM, John Berry [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>>
>> A bit of testing, and I can confirm that the more mass the better!
>>
>> So a few spots of soldier won't do much, but a block of lead, or a coil
>> of iron wire is a different story!
>>
>> It also seems advantageous to put materials in parallel as in the Moray
>> diagram, I think this creates an additional effect.
>>
>> I am not saying this is the only secret to Free Energy and harnessing of
>> aetheric energy, Far far from it, but I think this might be the best hidden
>> secret with the most potential that has been waiting to be seen!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 2:51 PM John Berry <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> I'll add a few more...
>>
>> So, it seems mass means something, Louis Rota (http://wikirota.org) used
>> large masses of multiple metals.
>>
>> Kapanadze used a big buried steel radiator connection to the ground.
>>
>> I need to check that, but we see it again with Moray, he didn't use a
>> sample of silver, despite it's price he used a largish bar of it!
>> http://www..diagrambay.today/circuit-t-henry-moray.html
>> <http://www.diagrambay.today/circuit-t-henry-moray.html>
>>
>> A few drops of Solider is likely not enough, nor likely would many
>> smaller batteries be as suited as larger batteries, also likely playes
>> aren't as good as wires, and wires aren't as good as bars, this is just
>> speculation, I need to test these theories.
>>
>> What about Joseph Newmann?  He uses small batteries?  Yes, but hundreds
>> of them, also I don't think his switches are all copper.  Also his magnet
>> is not in a closed magnetic mcircuit so it should contribute.
>>
>> What about John Hutchison?  Well, probably his Vandegraff and Tesla coil
>> terminals are not Copper, but moreover he has a high energy bandwidth due
>> to the different frequencies and energies he provides, so he achieves it a
>> different way.
>>
>> What about Markovitch  He might have used various metals, and he used a
>> crystal, but more over he uses what I consider to be another different way
>> of doing this, you offer energy 2 or more paths of different lengths, I am
>> not sure why it works, but it does work and it seems to create a similar
>> effect.
>>
>> What about the Adams motor?  This has an open magnetic circuit and so it
>> should apply.
>>
>> What about Paul Pantones GEET?  It uses copper pipes and iron rod and
>> steel.
>>
>> The Joe Cell does wonders when installed in cars, the energy works with
>> what is in the car which includes many different energies and materials.
>>
>> So... use multiple metals, more mass is better (probably), ideally in
>> series or parallel, otherwise as a cut cylinder C or a wire or rod inside.
>> Also a Conical or Pancake coil...
>> Also some wires cut to a bunch of different lengths (used by Keely)
>>  Takes a few minutes to cut, does not need to be neat.
>> And some wires of different lengths (very short to long) in parallel...
>> (quicker to make if you use uninsulated wire)
>>
>> Also a totally different correlation, energy like this conducting along a
>> magnetic field does something for sure, previously mentioned here...
>> Also apply the negative pole of an additional otherwise unconnected
>> battery to a circuit (Ed Gray's split the positive means don't connect the
>> positive of one battery to the circuit IMO)
>>
>> Also arc lamps create a wide energy bandwidth!  They create lots of heat,
>> UV-C, UV-B, UV-A, full spectrum of visible light, Radio spectrum noise
>> (RFI), Plasma/ions and chemical reactions, Bucky balls are made, they make
>> sound.   The energy from them can couple into wires and other things and
>> feedback.
>> The aetheric energy released with the conventional energy becomes
>> conditioned, and recycled...
>>
>> A lot of Free Energy circuits have a portion that is isolated from the
>> ground or mains...
>>
>> Finally, Free Energy ideally requires a degree of de-coupling, a bridge
>> rectifier, or loose coupling transformer or other methods are good at
>> allowing energy to be induced that is not reflected back on the input as
>> increases current draw.
>>
>> If I am right, and I am personally certain that I am, then using multiple
>> metals and other methods to "increase the aetheric bandwidth" will be
>> hugely helpful, but they won't necessarily be enough if aetheric energy is
>> not working in your circuit in the first place, that is easily fixed, but
>> just thought I should mention that, this is likely no harder than attaching
>> the battery as I explained and joining wire the right way.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 1:53 PM John Berry <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> I have had an insight into Free Energy...
>>
>> Let's start off with 2 early discoverers of Free Energy...
>>
>> Both of them took multiple different metals...
>> Used them in an equal manner...
>> Buried them in the ground...
>> Connected to arc lamps...
>> Which glowed with a white light that seemed to be cold or differed from
>> conventional electricity.
>>
>> I have just described both Louis Rota and Nathan Stubblefield.
>>
>> Ok, let's try another...  this one didn't use earth energy and didn't
>> even use anything pretending to be electricity, but he took wire made of 3
>> layers of 3 different metals..  And got Free Energy.
>>
>> You might have guessed that one, it's Keely.
>>
>> Ok, how about someone who made a device that has been called "Tri Metal
>> Generator"?  That's Tesla, it used iron, Aluminium and Copper, though the
>> details besides that are sketchy...   Tesla also used Aluminium in his
>> Magnifying Transmitter (Aluminium tube) and the ground employed steel in
>> part I believe.
>> Also, if this multi metal thing is doing what I think, Conical and
>> pancake coils are an alternative or additional method.
>>
>> Ok, how about another who used both a ground and an Antenna, and then
>> just happened to include a large bar of lead and a bar of silver in
>> parallel?
>> That's Moray according to one witness!    For what conventional purpose??
>>
>> How about 8 different claims of invisibility I have come across that have
>> employed conduction through copper and steel!?   Coincidence?  Maybe more...
>>
>> Coler used pancake coils, and Silver wires in parts and iron rods through
>> which current was conducted.
>>
>> I can also argue that Daniel Mcfarland Cook, Hubbard, Perrigo,
>> Hendershot, Bedini all use iron in ways that differ from that of the normal
>> use, and from my tests this results in much the same result as if it were
>> included in the circuit..  One way if by using a split cylinder or tube,
>> the other is using a rod or bundle of iron wires wound with a copper
>> electromagnet, by being open circuit the energy from the iron mingles with
>> the copper.
>>
>> Some or all version's of Floyd Sweet's device included an Aluminium Pipe
>> or cage that is magnet and coils sat inside of.  A strange details.
>>
>> Carbon brushes would count...  A lot of people consider DC motors to have
>> a too high efficiency and to be prone to exhibiting the characteristics to
>> be made OU.
>> A number have also claimed carbon spark gaps have been involved in OU.
>>
>> Tesla Switch used a lot of very large batteries, so that involves lead...
>>
>> Searl used rings of different materials and rollers of different
>> materials in parallel.
>>
>> Swiss ML (Paul Bauman) uses Aluminium cans and the Linden experiment used
>> iron wire (plus perspex and Copper and Aluminium), we should assume iron
>> wire is therefore used in the full machine as well.
>>
>> Ed Grey used a carbon block resistor...
>>
>> Steven Marks used steel/iron wires.
>>
>> Lakhosky's MWO might not be Free Energy, but he used a lot of different
>> diameter circles and then used different metals for the different rings.
>> This suggests some force comes into play when metals or materials are
>> mixed.
>>
>> Dotto's Ring reportedly levitated, and sometimes glowed, but it used
>> Copper and a segment of Constantin Alloy.
>>
>> Ronald Stiffler's TMB (Thermal Magnetic Battery) despite being milivolts
>> and microamps and without an inductive load, would sometimes have a fat
>> blue 1/4 inch arc when the circuit was broken, as well as responding to
>> movement of things in the area...  It passed electricity "somehow" through
>> a Ceramic magnet, though a cardboard or balsa layer, though plastic
>> film...  And it used Tin as one of the plates, as well as having a magnet
>> in series.
>>
>> C.Earl Ammann used iron wire coil to power a alarm which would have used
>> copper wire.
>>
>> There is a report that a steel Pyramid being welded levitated, so that's
>> steel and copper in the circuit.
>> There are other reports of welding causing things to vanish in Gerry
>> Vassalitos's books.
>>
>> Stan Deyo mentioned an antigravity experiment called the "Wedding cake
>> device" as it had 3 layers of Plywood circles and coils, but the coils were
>> wound with iron wire, but powered from a normal copper based power source.
>>
>> My own research supports the idea that metals and used correctly other
>> materials by being used together leads to a wider aetheric energy
>> bandwidth, by making the energy bandwidth involved larger, the aetheric
>> functions begins to affect to have a more dominant effect, it affects more
>> of the physical world when it's bandwidth is increased.
>>
>> This is pretty compelling!
>>
>> Now ask yourself, how  many unsuccessful experiments have not use ample
>> amounts of other metals besides a few drops of solder or a small battery
>> here or there?
>>
>> Norm, that buzzer, wasn't Steel effectively in that circuit?
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>> 
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