Re: [EVGRAY] re: Longitudinal wave antenna

54 messages · 2018-12-29T19:47:11-06:00 → 2019-11-16T12:20:59-06:00

[1/54] Re: [EVGRAY] re: Longitudinal wave antenna

2018-12-29T19:47:11-06:00 · Norman Wootan <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
https://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/electromagnetism/magnetic-hysteresis.html

Please understand that Tesla totally understood the BH curves of the different types of iron and steel.  Tesla advocated driving soft iron cores into deep supersaturation where as Ole has pointed out the L value of your inductor disappears.   The simple door buzzer experiment is a classic example of the anamalous spike output because the iron core material is so soft grade of iron, you can carve off a sliver with a sharp knife. It is dead soft iron.   I wanted to make soft iron cores from electrolytic iron or Ferricpentacarbynol which you can sinster into any shape you want.  The iron wire coils were experimented with by Tesla and you can see by the above charts that they saturate  very early on the scale.  Tesla experimented with a coil device that used the idea of popping in and out of the saturation point which is a variable inductor effect  which in amplified current.   The rapid varying capacitor effect is used in the Hyde generator which in effect magnifies voltage (electron pump).


On 12/29/2018 6:59 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Norm,
>
> BTW this should remind you of your mirror image coil experiment that
> cannot be replicated by simply switching polarity.  Pretty cool how one
> version of it transmits through a Faraday cage by design. This system
> is a very high Q design so requires the fine level of assembly Warren
> and Sven also example in their work.
>
> As far as taming the magnetoelectric event yes it is quite the challenge
> but why not, already have a trash can full of deactivated sand, might as
> well keep on going when the new thyratrons arrive.
>
> Can you elaborate on your experiments utilizing iron wire coils and what
> you found with this investigation?
>
> Here is an antenna design that generates and receives Tesla's
>
> hyper-luminal waves
>
> http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2007/0013595.html
>
>

[2/54] re: Longitudinal wave antenna

2018-12-29T19:59:22-05:00 · Mick <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Norm,

BTW this should remind you of your mirror image coil experiment that
cannot be replicated by simply switching polarity.  Pretty cool how one
version of it transmits through a Faraday cage by design.  This system
is a very high Q design so requires the fine level of assembly Warren
and Sven also example in their work.

As far as taming the magnetoelectric event yes it is quite the challenge
but why not, already have a trash can full of deactivated sand, might as
well keep on going when the new thyratrons arrive.

Can you elaborate on your experiments utilizing iron wire coils and what
you found with this investigation?


Here is an antenna design that generates and receives Tesla's

hyper-luminal waves


http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2007/0013595.html
Norm,

Can you tell us about /your/ experiments with the magnetic wire?

Yes the removal and reappearance of an inductor or a capacitor for that
matter makes a great pump!  I like to see how many different functions
Tesla was up to as mutual factors are at work to generate, amplify, and
propagate this energy. "First there was a mountain then there was no
mountain then there was"

In most of the OU systems we see a variable capacitor effect used in
order to phase modulate the system as for Hectors brick through the
window.  It is interesting this design is also used in the Hyde
generator but not nearly as elegant as Teslas.



On 12/29/2018 8:47 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> https://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/electromagnetism/magnetic-hysteresis.html
>
> Please understand that Tesla totally understood the BH curves of the different types of iron and steel.  Tesla advocated driving soft iron cores into deep supersaturation where as Ole has pointed out the L value of your inductor disappears.   The simple door buzzer experiment is a classic example of the anamalous spike output because the iron core material is so soft grade of iron, you can carve off a sliver with a sharp knife. It is dead soft iron.   I wanted to make soft iron cores from electrolytic iron or Ferricpentacarbynol which you can sinster into any shape you want.  The iron wire coils were experimented with by Tesla and you can see by the above charts that they saturate  very early on the scale.  Tesla experimented with a coil device that used the idea of popping in and out of the saturation point which is a variable inductor effect  which in amplified current.   The rapid varying capacitor effect is used in the Hyde generator which in effect magnifies voltage (electron pump).
>
>
> On 12/29/2018 6:59 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>  
>>
>> Norm,
>>
>> BTW this should remind you of your mirror image coil experiment that
>> cannot be replicated by simply switching polarity.  Pretty cool how one
>> version of it transmits through a Faraday cage by design.  This system
>> is a very high Q design so requires the fine level of assembly Warren
>> and Sven also example in their work.
>>
>> As far as taming the magnetoelectric event yes it is quite the challenge
>> but why not, already have a trash can full of deactivated sand, might as
>> well keep on going when the new thyratrons arrive.
>>
>> Can you elaborate on your experiments utilizing iron wire coils and what
>> you found with this investigation?
>>
>> Here is an antenna design that generates and receives Tesla's
>>
>> hyper-luminal waves
>>
>> http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2007/0013595.html
>>
>
Hector mentioned an inductive pump version rather than capacitive of the
Hyde system using a Variometer
http://g3ynh.info/comps/Vari_L.html     The one inductor that can rotate
inside a second one.

 Also can use a varactor diode for a capcitance pump but of course
limited to the voltages of sand items.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSO5T4dL7W4

On 12/29/2018 8:47 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> https://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/electromagnetism/magnetic-hysteresis.html
>
> Please understand that Tesla totally understood the BH curves of the different types of iron and steel.  Tesla advocated driving soft iron cores into deep supersaturation where as Ole has pointed out the L value of your inductor disappears.   The simple door buzzer experiment is a classic example of the anamalous spike output because the iron core material is so soft grade of iron, you can carve off a sliver with a sharp knife. It is dead soft iron.   I wanted to make soft iron cores from electrolytic iron or Ferricpentacarbynol which you can sinster into any shape you want.  The iron wire coils were experimented with by Tesla and you can see by the above charts that they saturate  very early on the scale.  Tesla experimented with a coil device that used the idea of popping in and out of the saturation point which is a variable inductor effect  which in amplified current.   The rapid varying capacitor effect is used in the Hyde generator which in effect magnifies voltage (electron pump).
>
>
> On 12/29/2018 6:59 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>  
>>
>> Norm,
>>
>> BTW this should remind you of your mirror image coil experiment that
>> cannot be replicated by simply switching polarity.  Pretty cool how one
>> version of it transmits through a Faraday cage by design.  This system
>> is a very high Q design so requires the fine level of assembly Warren
>> and Sven also example in their work.
>>
>> As far as taming the magnetoelectric event yes it is quite the challenge
>> but why not, already have a trash can full of deactivated sand, might as
>> well keep on going when the new thyratrons arrive.
>>
>> Can you elaborate on your experiments utilizing iron wire coils and what
>> you found with this investigation?
>>
>> Here is an antenna design that generates and receives Tesla's
>>
>> hyper-luminal waves
>>
>> http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2007/0013595.html
>>
>

[5/54] Re: [EVGRAY] re: Longitudinal wave antenna

2018-12-30T08:42:42-06:00 · Norman Wootan <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
The subject of iron being the key, as Tesla stated, to attach our 
machinery to the wheel works of nature is derived from one of his famous 
lectures.  In his lecture, Tesla said that we on earth are blessed in 
that iron is such an abundant element and further stated that a fine 
grade of steel would enable us to generate power from the interesting 
atomic structure of iron. See the other properties of iron:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron


Crystal structure <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_structure> 
​body-centered cubic 
<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cubic_crystal_system> (bcc)
Body-centered cubic crystal structure for iron 
<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Cubic-body-centered.svg>

/a/=286.65 pm
Crystal structure 	​face-centered cubic 
<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cubic_crystal_system> (fcc)
Face-centered cubic crystal structure for iron 
<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Cubic-face-centered.svg>

between 1185–1667 K


Pay attention to the shift in molecular structure, here described.


      Phase diagram and allotropes

Main article: Allotropes of iron 
<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allotropes_of_iron>

Iron represents an example of allotropy 
<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allotropy> in a metal. At least four 
allotropic forms of iron are known as α, γ, δ, and ε; at very high 
pressures and temperatures, some controversial experimental evidence 
exists for a stable β phase.^[15] 
<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron#cite_note-beta-iron-15>

<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Pure_iron_phase_diagram_(EN).png>
Low-pressure phase diagram 
<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phase_diagram> of pure iron
<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Magnetization_curves.svg>
Magnetization curves of 9 ferromagnetic materials, showing saturation. 
1.Sheet steel, 2.Silicon steel, 3.Cast steel, 4.Tungsten steel, 5.Magnet 
steel, 6.Cast iron, 7.Nickel, 8.Cobalt, 9.Magnetite^[16] 
<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron#cite_note-16>

As molten iron cools past its freezing point of 1538 °C, it crystallizes 
into its δ allotrope, which has a body-centered cubic 
<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body-centered_cubic> (bcc) crystal 
structure <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_structure>. As it 
cools further to 1394 °C, it changes to its γ-iron allotrope, a 
face-centered cubic 
<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Face-centered_cubic> (fcc) crystal 
structure, or austenite <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austenite>. At 
912 °C and below, the crystal structure again becomes the bcc α-iron 
allotrope. Finally, at 770 °C (the Curie point 
<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curie_point>, T_c ) iron's magnetic 
ordering changes from paramagnetic 
<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paramagnetic> to ferromagnetic 
<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferromagnetic>. As it passes through 
the Curie temperature, iron does not change its structure, but "magnetic 
domains" appear, where each domain contains iron atoms with a particular 
electronic spin. In unmagnetized iron, all the electronic spins of the 
atoms within one domain have the same axis orientation; however, the 
electrons of neighboring domains have other orientations with the result 
of mutual cancellation and no magnetic field. In magnetized iron, the 
electronic spins of the domains are aligned and the magnetic effects are 
reinforced. Although each domain contains billions of atoms, they are 
very small, about 10 micrometres across.^[17] 
<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron#cite_note-Metallo-17> This happens 
because the two unpaired electrons on each iron atom are in the d_/z/^2 
and d_/x/^2 − /y/^2 orbitals, which do not point directly at the nearest 
neighbors in the body-centered cubic lattice and therefore do not 
participate in metallic bonding; thus, they can interact magnetically 
with each other so that their spins align.^[18] 
<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron#cite_note-Greenwood1075-18>

Remember that Tesla experimented with a pyro/magnetic generator that 
used the phase shift characteristics of iron.  Now let us look at a very 
controversial idea of  iron upon magnetic super-saturation makes a shift 
(momentarily) into manganese which is one step down on the periodic 
table of the elements. See  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manganese

In this idea that the iron would give up free electrons and go from 
Fe-26 to Mn-25 and gain back from the space background to  revert back 
to Fe-26.  Here you have in effect a huge electron pump for each atom of 
iron would yield an electron for our use them revert back to normal iron 
state.  Far fetched as it may sound, this concept is found in William 
Lynn's books, Space Aliens from the Pentagon and in Occult Ether 
Physics.  This was the quest that Tesla was on when trying to formulate 
an iron that had the correct BH saturation characteristics. Dead soft 
pure iron.

“If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of 
energy, frequency and vibration.”
― Nikola Tesla


“My brain is only a receiver, in the Universe there is a core from which 
we obtain knowledge, strength and inspiration. I have not penetrated 
into the secrets of this core, but I know that it exists.”
― Nikola Tesla


“Today’s scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and 
they wander off through equation after equation, and eventually build a 
structure which has no relation to reality. ”
― Nikola Tesla




On 12/30/2018 5:54 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Norm,
>
> Can you tell us about /your/ experiments with the magnetic wire?
>
> Yes the removal and reappearance of an inductor or a capacitor for 
> that matter makes a great pump!  I like to see how many different 
> functions Tesla was up to as mutual factors are at work to generate, 
> amplify, and propagate this energy. "First there was a mountain then 
> there was no mountain then there was"
>
> In most of the OU systems we see a variable capacitor effect used in 
> order to phase modulate the system as for Hectors brick through the 
> window.  It is interesting this design is also used in the Hyde 
> generator but not nearly as elegant as Teslas.
>
>
>
> On 12/29/2018 8:47 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>> https://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/electromagnetism/magnetic-hysteresis.html
>>
>> Please understand that Tesla totally understood the BH curves of the different types of iron and steel.  Tesla advocated driving soft iron cores into deep supersaturation where as Ole has pointed out the L value of your inductor disappears.   The simple door buzzer experiment is a classic example of the anamalous spike output because the iron core material is so soft grade of iron, you can carve off a sliver with a sharp knife. It is dead soft iron.   I wanted to make soft iron cores from electrolytic iron or Ferricpentacarbynol which you can sinster into any shape you want.  The iron wire coils were experimented with by Tesla and you can see by the above charts that they saturate  very early on the scale.  Tesla experimented with a coil device that used the idea of popping in and out of the saturation point which is a variable inductor effect  which in amplified current.   The rapid varying capacitor effect is used in the Hyde generator which in effect magnifies voltage (electron pump).
>>
>>
>> On 12/29/2018 6:59 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>> Norm,
>>>
>>> BTW this should remind you of your mirror image coil experiment that
>>> cannot be replicated by simply switching polarity.  Pretty cool how one
>>> version of it transmits through a Faraday cage by design.  This system
>>> is a very high Q design so requires the fine level of assembly Warren
>>> and Sven also example in their work.
>>>
>>> As far as taming the magnetoelectric event yes it is quite the challenge
>>> but why not, already have a trash can full of deactivated sand, might as
>>> well keep on going when the new thyratrons arrive.
>>>
>>> Can you elaborate on your experiments utilizing iron wire coils and what
>>> you found with this investigation?
>>>
>>> Here is an antenna design that generates and receives Tesla's
>>>
>>> hyper-luminal waves
>>>
>>> http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2007/0013595.html
>>>
>

[6/54] Re: [EVGRAY] re: Longitudinal wave antenna

2018-12-30T08:47:49-06:00 · Norman Wootan <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
On 12/30/2018 8:42 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>
> The subject of iron being the key, as Tesla stated, to attach our 
> machinery to the wheel works of nature is derived from one of his 
> famous lectures.  In his lecture, Tesla said that we on earth are 
> blessed in that iron is such an abundant element and further stated 
> that a fine grade of steel would enable us to generate power from the 
> interesting atomic structure of iron. See the other properties of iron:
>
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron
>
>
> Crystal structure <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_structure> 
> ​body-centered cubic 
> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cubic_crystal_system> (bcc)
> Body-centered cubic crystal structure for iron 
> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Cubic-body-centered.svg>
>
> /a/=286.65 pm
> Crystal structure 	​face-centered cubic 
> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cubic_crystal_system> (fcc)
> Face-centered cubic crystal structure for iron 
> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Cubic-face-centered.svg>
>
> between 1185–1667 K
>
>
> Pay attention to the shift in molecular structure, here described.
>
>
>       Phase diagram and allotropes
>
> Main article: Allotropes of iron 
> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allotropes_of_iron>
>
> Iron represents an example of allotropy 
> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allotropy> in a metal. At least four 
> allotropic forms of iron are known as α, γ, δ, and ε; at very high 
> pressures and temperatures, some controversial experimental evidence 
> exists for a stable β phase.^[15] 
> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron#cite_note-beta-iron-15>
>
> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Pure_iron_phase_diagram_(EN).png>
> Low-pressure phase diagram 
> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phase_diagram> of pure iron
> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Magnetization_curves.svg>
> Magnetization curves of 9 ferromagnetic materials, showing saturation. 
> 1.Sheet steel, 2.Silicon steel, 3.Cast steel, 4.Tungsten steel, 
> 5.Magnet steel, 6.Cast iron, 7.Nickel, 8.Cobalt, 9.Magnetite^[16] 
> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron#cite_note-16>
>
> As molten iron cools past its freezing point of 1538 °C, it 
> crystallizes into its δ allotrope, which has a body-centered cubic 
> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body-centered_cubic> (bcc) crystal 
> structure <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_structure>. As it 
> cools further to 1394 °C, it changes to its γ-iron allotrope, a 
> face-centered cubic 
> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Face-centered_cubic> (fcc) crystal 
> structure, or austenite <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austenite>. 
> At 912 °C and below, the crystal structure again becomes the bcc 
> α-iron allotrope. Finally, at 770 °C (the Curie point 
> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curie_point>, T_c ) iron's magnetic 
> ordering changes from paramagnetic 
> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paramagnetic> to ferromagnetic 
> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferromagnetic>. As it passes through 
> the Curie temperature, iron does not change its structure, but 
> "magnetic domains" appear, where each domain contains iron atoms with 
> a particular electronic spin. In unmagnetized iron, all the electronic 
> spins of the atoms within one domain have the same axis orientation; 
> however, the electrons of neighboring domains have other orientations 
> with the result of mutual cancellation and no magnetic field. In 
> magnetized iron, the electronic spins of the domains are aligned and 
> the magnetic effects are reinforced. Although each domain contains 
> billions of atoms, they are very small, about 10 micrometres 
> across.^[17] 
> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron#cite_note-Metallo-17> This 
> happens because the two unpaired electrons on each iron atom are in 
> the d_/z/^2 and d_/x/^2 − /y/^2 orbitals, which do not point directly 
> at the nearest neighbors in the body-centered cubic lattice and 
> therefore do not participate in metallic bonding; thus, they can 
> interact magnetically with each other so that their spins align.^[18] 
> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron#cite_note-Greenwood1075-18>
>
> Remember that Tesla experimented with a pyro/magnetic generator that 
> used the phase shift characteristics of iron.  Now let us look at a 
> very controversial idea of  iron upon magnetic super-saturation makes 
> a shift (momentarily) into manganese which is one step down on the 
> periodic table of the elements. See 
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manganese
>
> In this idea that the iron would give up free electrons and go from 
> Fe-26 to Mn-25 and gain back from the space background to  revert back 
> to Fe-26.  Here you have in effect a huge electron pump for each atom 
> of iron would yield an electron for our use them revert back to normal 
> iron state.  Far fetched as it may sound, this concept is found in 
> William Lynn's books, Space Aliens from the Pentagon and in Occult 
> Ether Physics.  This was the quest that Tesla was on when trying to 
> formulate an iron that had the correct BH saturation characteristics. 
> Dead soft pure iron.
>
> “If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of 
> energy, frequency and vibration.”
> ― Nikola Tesla
>
>
> “My brain is only a receiver, in the Universe there is a core from 
> which we obtain knowledge, strength and inspiration. I have not 
> penetrated into the secrets of this core, but I know that it exists.”
> ― Nikola Tesla
>
>
> “Today’s scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and 
> they wander off through equation after equation, and eventually build 
> a structure which has no relation to reality. ”
> ― Nikola Tesla
>
>
>
>
> On 12/30/2018 5:54 AM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>> Norm,
>>
>> Can you tell us about /your/ experiments with the magnetic wire?
>>
>> Yes the removal and reappearance of an inductor or a capacitor for 
>> that matter makes a great pump!  I like to see how many different 
>> functions Tesla was up to as mutual factors are at work to generate, 
>> amplify, and propagate this energy. "First there was a mountain then 
>> there was no mountain then there was"
>>
>> In most of the OU systems we see a variable capacitor effect used in 
>> order to phase modulate the system as for Hectors brick through the 
>> window.  It is interesting this design is also used in the Hyde 
>> generator but not nearly as elegant as Teslas.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/29/2018 8:47 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>
>>> https://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/electromagnetism/magnetic-hysteresis.html
>>>
>>> Please understand that Tesla totally understood the BH curves of the different types of iron and steel.  Tesla advocated driving soft iron cores into deep supersaturation where as Ole has pointed out the L value of your inductor disappears.   The simple door buzzer experiment is a classic example of the anamalous spike output because the iron core material is so soft grade of iron, you can carve off a sliver with a sharp knife. It is dead soft iron.   I wanted to make soft iron cores from electrolytic iron or Ferricpentacarbynol which you can sinster into any shape you want.  The iron wire coils were experimented with by Tesla and you can see by the above charts that they saturate  very early on the scale.  Tesla experimented with a coil device that used the idea of popping in and out of the saturation point which is a variable inductor effect  which in amplified current.   The rapid varying capacitor effect is used in the Hyde generator which in effect magnifies voltage (electron pump).
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/29/2018 6:59 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Norm,
>>>>
>>>> BTW this should remind you of your mirror image coil experiment that
>>>> cannot be replicated by simply switching polarity.  Pretty cool how one
>>>> version of it transmits through a Faraday cage by design.  This system
>>>> is a very high Q design so requires the fine level of assembly Warren
>>>> and Sven also example in their work.
>>>>
>>>> As far as taming the magnetoelectric event yes it is quite the 
>>>> challenge
>>>> but why not, already have a trash can full of deactivated sand, 
>>>> might as
>>>> well keep on going when the new thyratrons arrive.
>>>>
>>>> Can you elaborate on your experiments utilizing iron wire coils and 
>>>> what
>>>> you found with this investigation?
>>>>
>>>> Here is an antenna design that generates and receives Tesla's
>>>>
>>>> hyper-luminal waves
>>>>
>>>> http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2007/0013595.html
>>>>
>>

[7/54] Re: [EVGRAY] re: Longitudinal wave antenna

2018-12-30T11:29:03-06:00 · Norman Wootan <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Tesla's Pyro generator to which I referred which took advantage of iron 
phase shift.

https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/patents/us-patent-428057-pyromagneto-electric-generator

Somewhere here we have to jump back and address IONS both positive and negative.  See my 1996 paper for KeelyNet titled WHAT is Heat which dealt with ionization and its potential.  The loss or gain of electrons in the atomic lattice causes the precise predictability of the various phase change points.

This is the Bad Boy that I wanted to build using nitrogen gas and an alpha emitter electrodes.





What is Heat #2

For about 10 years I have been studying the effects of

heating and cooling associated with the phase change of

liquids with the hope of building a simple generator of

electrical power around the phenomenon.The reason for this

interest is based on the theory that energy can be extracted

from the ambient background via thermal differentials.My

line of thinking really took off back when I experimented

with the all too familiar Peltier junction devices found in

electronic cooling devices.Would you believe that most

people do not understand how these devices move thermal

energy through a current flow across a semiconductor

junction.Historically we find that German physicist,

Thomas Seebeck back in 1820 observed that when heat was

applied to a junction of copper and steel wire that

electrical energy resulted.Later in 1834 Jean Peltier

discovered that when a direct current was applied to two

dissimilar metals the junction got hot or cold.It was not

until 1838 that Emil Lenz clearly showed the importance of

both Seebeck and Peltier s discoveries by placing a drop of

water on the junction of dissimilar metals which froze then

melted when the polarity of the direct current was

reversed.These discoveries remained dormant for over 100

years because of the unavailability of semiconductor

materials which could provide the wide temperature

differentials.In the 1930 s semiconductor materials became

available which revived the electric cooling principles.In

the 1960 s many companies began building spot cooling

devices and refrigerators based on these effects using a

junction material of bismuth-telluride. Today more advanced

materials are used with the basic parameters of being a pore

thermal conductor but being an excellent electrical

conductor. The dissimilar materials must provide a high

coefficient of voltage temperature relationship.The first

Peltier devices that I experimented with back about 10 years

ago were built by Marlow Industries here in Dallas.With a

small temperature differential across the device a weak

current with an attendant voltage was developed.Increasing

the differential provided a proportional increase in current

and voltage.About 6 years ago I posted a chart of the

wattage generated from two different size Peltier chips on

the KeelyNet BBS.My curiosity was based on the puzzle of

how electron flow could move thermal energy across the

junctions and how electrical energy was produced by moving

thermal energy across the junction.This is a directly

reversible situation based on polarity.

Now let us look at a very familiar parallel process used in

refrigeration, cooling and heating devices employing phase

change material such as water and refrigerants.We have

always been led to believe that evaporating water provided

cooling effects which is a mechanical process. By the same

mechanical process we are provided heating effects by the

condensation of a gas back to a liquid phase change.Would

you believe that any material that undergoes a phase change

provides an attendant electrical effect.Back in 1840

Armstrong invented an electrostatic generator based on

escaping steam through insulated nozzles which provided one

of the most powerful devices of this type ever built.

Popular belief was that this was a frictional process with

the electrical output resulting from the steam friction

passing through the nozzles.After reading an old (1920 s)

Thermodynamics in Chemistry text book I realized that the

phase change of materials was an electrical phenomenon and

not purely mechanical.The atoms of the material lose or

gain electrons in the process which accounts for the

discrepancy in the energy equation when a material

transitions between phases.More energy is present after

the phase change back to the lower form or atomic state. The

text book stated that this phenomenon could not be

explained.When Jerry and I attended a Conference hosted by

Hal Puthoff down in Austin back about 6 years ago a

physicist from Austria presented a paper on the phase change

of water and the attendant electrical phenomenon which is

totally not understood by modern science.Now my suspicions

were confirmed that phase changes of materials are an

electrostatic phenomenon, which leads us to the fundamental

question of, What is heat?We were told in the school

that heat is the presence of energy and cool is the absence

of energy.What is the form of this energy?Let us look at

a very simple example of heating which may explain this

process.When sunlight strikes an absorbing surface it is

heated because electrons in the material are converted to

photons which are emitted in the infrared band of light

leaving the material in a net positive state or hot.The

more electrons a material looses the hotter it becomes.Now

the inverse situation is explored by evaporating some water

from the surface of a material which leaves the surface in a

net negative state or cold.Heat or cold is based on the

ion relationship in the material.When we apply a flame

(ionizing) to a material we cause the emission of photons

which is basically stripping away electrons from the atomic

structure causing a gross net positive situation to occur.

Now we are getting a picture as to how an electric current

across the Peltier junction can transport thermal energy

(ions).Since the energy is in the form of presence or

absence of electrons then it is a simple explanation as to

how the process works.All phase change processes work the

same way basically via ion transport and are not mechanical

processes which we were taught.Everything in chemistry is

an electrical or electrostatic process at the atomic level

based on the ionized state of the atoms involved.

At a Vangard Science Round table discussion several years ago

we talked about the ion wind method of fire fighting in

which ionized air will extinguish a flame because of the

cooling effects.Now we see Patents issued based on

negative ion spraying of a surface causing it to rapidly

cool because it becomes net negative charged.This is a

very efficient method of air-conditioning because an ion

generator operates at very high voltages with very little

current involved.It is possible to develop this ion

transport (thermal energy) to provide direct electrical

output from very subtle temperature differentials.Remember

that this is a direct reversible process where a thermal

differential will cause a development of current and voltage

as in the Peltier device.I hope that this dialog will

provide some food for thought out there on the KeelyNet.

Please provide some feedback on this very interesting line

of experimentation.Norm




On 12/30/2018 10:49 AM, Bob Paddock wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 9:42 AM Norman Wootan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> As molten iron cools past its freezing point of 1538 °C, it crystallizes
> Where would something like the Barkenhausen effect, fit into this
> whole Iron thing?; See Volume-II of the Feynman Lecture on Physics.
> Feynman demonstrates energy generation, at a small scale.
>
> There is also "CATER, Joseph: The Awesome Life Force ~ A 1980s classic
> review of alternative sciences (PDF)",
> based on a mixture of conventional and original ideas by Cater.
>
> http://rexresearch.com/pdf/CaterAwesomeLifeForce.pdf
>
> Pg 126 "Nature of Magnetic Fields", pg 167 "Soft Electrons, Magnetic
> fields", pg 204 "Transmission through materials"
>
> which lead us to pg 256 "THE SELF-SUSTAINING ELECTRIC GENERATOR",
> based on Hubbard's Generator made of Iron shown later in the book.
>
> We also have those that prefer to use metals that were forged
> pre-atomic-blasts in some esoteric devices. ?
>
>> “My brain is only a receiver, in the Universe there is a core from which we obtain knowledge, strength and inspiration. I have not penetrated into the secrets of this core, but I know that it exists.”
>> ― Nikola Tesla
> Considered the Raikov Effect or Deep Trance Identification?
>

[8/54] Re: [EVGRAY] re: Longitudinal wave antenna

2018-12-30T11:42:47-06:00 · Norman Wootan <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Remember that my main line of research is the Magnetic flux 
annihilation-Reconnect EMP phenomenon.  Here is a first step into 
learning more about the Magnetoelectric effect.  Just build sensors. See 
attachment.   Now that you have a sensor lets look at the 
Magnetoelectric (EMP output when you destroy a very powerful neo magnet 
via rapid explosives.  Remember that energy cannot be destroyed but can 
convert into another form of energy we call the Magnetoelectric EMP.  
See 
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explosive-driven_ferromagnetic_generator 
This is a direct conversion of powerful magnetic flux field directly 
into very high power electrical output.

On 12/30/2018 11:29 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>
> Tesla's Pyro generator to which I referred which took advantage of 
> iron phase shift.
>
> https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/patents/us-patent-428057-pyromagneto-electric-generator
>
> Somewhere here we have to jump back and address IONS both positive and negative.  See my 1996 paper for KeelyNet titled WHAT is Heat which dealt with ionization and its potential.  The loss or gain of electrons in the atomic lattice causes the precise predictability of the various phase change points.
>
> This is the Bad Boy that I wanted to build using nitrogen gas and an alpha emitter electrodes.
>
>
>
>
>
> What is Heat #2
>
> For about 10 years I have been studying the effects of
>
> heating and cooling associated with the phase change of
>
> liquids with the hope of building a simple generator of
>
> electrical power around the phenomenon.The reason for this
>
> interest is based on the theory that energy can be extracted
>
> from the ambient background via thermal differentials.My
>
> line of thinking really took off back when I experimented
>
> with the all too familiar Peltier junction devices found in
>
> electronic cooling devices.Would you believe that most
>
> people do not understand how these devices move thermal
>
> energy through a current flow across a semiconductor
>
> junction.Historically we find that German physicist,
>
> Thomas Seebeck back in 1820 observed that when heat was
>
> applied to a junction of copper and steel wire that
>
> electrical energy resulted.Later in 1834 Jean Peltier
>
> discovered that when a direct current was applied to two
>
> dissimilar metals the junction got hot or cold.It was not
>
> until 1838 that Emil Lenz clearly showed the importance of
>
> both Seebeck and Peltier s discoveries by placing a drop of
>
> water on the junction of dissimilar metals which froze then
>
> melted when the polarity of the direct current was
>
> reversed.These discoveries remained dormant for over 100
>
> years because of the unavailability of semiconductor
>
> materials which could provide the wide temperature
>
> differentials.In the 1930 s semiconductor materials became
>
> available which revived the electric cooling principles.In
>
> the 1960 s many companies began building spot cooling
>
> devices and refrigerators based on these effects using a
>
> junction material of bismuth-telluride. Today more advanced
>
> materials are used with the basic parameters of being a pore
>
> thermal conductor but being an excellent electrical
>
> conductor. The dissimilar materials must provide a high
>
> coefficient of voltage temperature relationship.The first
>
> Peltier devices that I experimented with back about 10 years
>
> ago were built by Marlow Industries here in Dallas.With a
>
> small temperature differential across the device a weak
>
> current with an attendant voltage was developed.Increasing
>
> the differential provided a proportional increase in current
>
> and voltage.About 6 years ago I posted a chart of the
>
> wattage generated from two different size Peltier chips on
>
> the KeelyNet BBS.My curiosity was based on the puzzle of
>
> how electron flow could move thermal energy across the
>
> junctions and how electrical energy was produced by moving
>
> thermal energy across the junction.This is a directly
>
> reversible situation based on polarity.
>
> Now let us look at a very familiar parallel process used in
>
> refrigeration, cooling and heating devices employing phase
>
> change material such as water and refrigerants.We have
>
> always been led to believe that evaporating water provided
>
> cooling effects which is a mechanical process. By the same
>
> mechanical process we are provided heating effects by the
>
> condensation of a gas back to a liquid phase change.Would
>
> you believe that any material that undergoes a phase change
>
> provides an attendant electrical effect.Back in 1840
>
> Armstrong invented an electrostatic generator based on
>
> escaping steam through insulated nozzles which provided one
>
> of the most powerful devices of this type ever built.
>
> Popular belief was that this was a frictional process with
>
> the electrical output resulting from the steam friction
>
> passing through the nozzles.After reading an old (1920 s)
>
> Thermodynamics in Chemistry text book I realized that the
>
> phase change of materials was an electrical phenomenon and
>
> not purely mechanical.The atoms of the material lose or
>
> gain electrons in the process which accounts for the
>
> discrepancy in the energy equation when a material
>
> transitions between phases.More energy is present after
>
> the phase change back to the lower form or atomic state. The
>
> text book stated that this phenomenon could not be
>
> explained.When Jerry and I attended a Conference hosted by
>
> Hal Puthoff down in Austin back about 6 years ago a
>
> physicist from Austria presented a paper on the phase change
>
> of water and the attendant electrical phenomenon which is
>
> totally not understood by modern science.Now my suspicions
>
> were confirmed that phase changes of materials are an
>
> electrostatic phenomenon, which leads us to the fundamental
>
> question of, What is heat?We were told in the school
>
> that heat is the presence of energy and cool is the absence
>
> of energy.What is the form of this energy?Let us look at
>
> a very simple example of heating which may explain this
>
> process.When sunlight strikes an absorbing surface it is
>
> heated because electrons in the material are converted to
>
> photons which are emitted in the infrared band of light
>
> leaving the material in a net positive state or hot.The
>
> more electrons a material looses the hotter it becomes.Now
>
> the inverse situation is explored by evaporating some water
>
> from the surface of a material which leaves the surface in a
>
> net negative state or cold.Heat or cold is based on the
>
> ion relationship in the material.When we apply a flame
>
> (ionizing) to a material we cause the emission of photons
>
> which is basically stripping away electrons from the atomic
>
> structure causing a gross net positive situation to occur.
>
> Now we are getting a picture as to how an electric current
>
> across the Peltier junction can transport thermal energy
>
> (ions).Since the energy is in the form of presence or
>
> absence of electrons then it is a simple explanation as to
>
> how the process works.All phase change processes work the
>
> same way basically via ion transport and are not mechanical
>
> processes which we were taught.Everything in chemistry is
>
> an electrical or electrostatic process at the atomic level
>
> based on the ionized state of the atoms involved.
>
> At a Vangard Science Round table discussion several years ago
>
> we talked about the ion wind method of fire fighting in
>
> which ionized air will extinguish a flame because of the
>
> cooling effects.Now we see Patents issued based on
>
> negative ion spraying of a surface causing it to rapidly
>
> cool because it becomes net negative charged.This is a
>
> very efficient method of air-conditioning because an ion
>
> generator operates at very high voltages with very little
>
> current involved.It is possible to develop this ion
>
> transport (thermal energy) to provide direct electrical
>
> output from very subtle temperature differentials.Remember
>
> that this is a direct reversible process where a thermal
>
> differential will cause a development of current and voltage
>
> as in the Peltier device.I hope that this dialog will
>
> provide some food for thought out there on the KeelyNet.
>
> Please provide some feedback on this very interesting line
>
> of experimentation.Norm
>
>
>
>
> On 12/30/2018 10:49 AM, Bob Paddock wrote:
>> On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 9:42 AM Norman Wootan<[email protected]>  wrote:
>>
>>> As molten iron cools past its freezing point of 1538 °C, it crystallizes
>> Where would something like the Barkenhausen effect, fit into this
>> whole Iron thing?; See Volume-II of the Feynman Lecture on Physics.
>> Feynman demonstrates energy generation, at a small scale.
>>
>> There is also "CATER, Joseph: The Awesome Life Force ~ A 1980s classic
>> review of alternative sciences (PDF)",
>> based on a mixture of conventional and original ideas by Cater.
>>
>> http://rexresearch.com/pdf/CaterAwesomeLifeForce.pdf
>>
>> Pg 126 "Nature of Magnetic Fields", pg 167 "Soft Electrons, Magnetic
>> fields", pg 204 "Transmission through materials"
>>
>> which lead us to pg 256 "THE SELF-SUSTAINING ELECTRIC GENERATOR",
>> based on Hubbard's Generator made of Iron shown later in the book.
>>
>> We also have those that prefer to use metals that were forged
>> pre-atomic-blasts in some esoteric devices. ?
>>
>>> ��My brain is only a receiver, in the Universe there is a core from which we obtain knowledge, strength and inspiration. I have not penetrated into the secrets of this core, but I know that it exists.”
>>> ― Nikola Tesla
>> Considered the Raikov Effect or Deep Trance Identification?
>>

[9/54] Re: [EVGRAY] re: Longitudinal wave antenna

2018-12-30T11:49:35-05:00 · Bob Paddock <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <CAPYb0EHXaGswHPiaCdKHQdC-GiGb-pKxPKzJVKphKB7G+gdH-Q@mail.gmail.com>
On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 9:42 AM Norman Wootan <[email protected]> wrote:

> As molten iron cools past its freezing point of 1538 °C, it crystallizes

Where would something like the Barkenhausen effect, fit into this
whole Iron thing?; See Volume-II of the Feynman Lecture on Physics.
Feynman demonstrates energy generation, at a small scale.

There is also "CATER, Joseph: The Awesome Life Force ~ A 1980s classic
review of alternative sciences (PDF)",
based on a mixture of conventional and original ideas by Cater.

http://rexresearch.com/pdf/CaterAwesomeLifeForce.pdf

Pg 126 "Nature of Magnetic Fields", pg 167 "Soft Electrons, Magnetic
fields", pg 204 "Transmission through materials"

which lead us to pg 256 "THE SELF-SUSTAINING ELECTRIC GENERATOR",
based on Hubbard's Generator made of Iron shown later in the book.

We also have those that prefer to use metals that were forged
pre-atomic-blasts in some esoteric devices. ?

> “My brain is only a receiver, in the Universe there is a core from which we obtain knowledge, strength and inspiration. I have not penetrated into the secrets of this core, but I know that it exists.”
> ― Nikola Tesla

Considered the Raikov Effect or Deep Trance Identification?
Let me explain the origin of the Burning of Atmospheric Nitrogen 
Generator by Tesla.   Go back and look at his Warden Cliff Manifesto.

Alt


The Tesla  designed Generator (See below) used pure nitrogen as feed gas 
and the HV arc electrodes were alpha emitter elements (Thoriated 
Tungsten) to break down the nitrogen in a powerful magnetic field 
yielding phenomenal HVDC output.    This was what the Famous Warden 
Cliff Manifesto was all about.

On 12/30/2018 11:42 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Remember that my main line of research is the Magnetic flux 
> annihilation-Reconnect EMP phenomenon.  Here is a first step into 
> learning more about the Magnetoelectric effect.  Just build sensors. 
> See attachment.   Now that you have a sensor lets look at the 
> Magnetoelectric (EMP output when you destroy a very powerful neo 
> magnet via rapid explosives.  Remember that energy cannot be destroyed 
> but can convert into another form of energy we call the 
> Magnetoelectric EMP.  See 
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explosive-driven_ferromagnetic_generator 
> This is a direct conversion of powerful magnetic flux field directly 
> into very high power electrical output.
>
> On 12/30/2018 11:29 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>
>> Tesla's Pyro generator to which I referred which took advantage of 
>> iron phase shift.
>>
>> https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/patents/us-patent-428057-pyromagneto-electric-generator
>>
>> Somewhere here we have to jump back and address IONS both positive and negative.  See my 1996 paper for KeelyNet titled WHAT is Heat which dealt with ionization and its potential.  The loss or gain of electrons in the atomic lattice causes the precise predictability of the various phase change points.
>>
>> This is the Bad Boy that I wanted to build using nitrogen gas and an alpha emitter electrodes.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> What is Heat #2
>>
>> For about 10 years I have been studying the effects of
>>
>> heating and cooling associated with the phase change of
>>
>> liquids with the hope of building a simple generator of
>>
>> electrical power around the phenomenon.The reason for this
>>
>> interest is based on the theory that energy can be extracted
>>
>> from the ambient background via thermal differentials.My
>>
>> line of thinking really took off back when I experimented
>>
>> with the all too familiar Peltier junction devices found in
>>
>> electronic cooling devices.Would you believe that most
>>
>> people do not understand how these devices move thermal
>>
>> energy through a current flow across a semiconductor
>>
>> junction.Historically we find that German physicist,
>>
>> Thomas Seebeck back in 1820 observed that when heat was
>>
>> applied to a junction of copper and steel wire that
>>
>> electrical energy resulted.Later in 1834 Jean Peltier
>>
>> discovered that when a direct current was applied to two
>>
>> dissimilar metals the junction got hot or cold.It was not
>>
>> until 1838 that Emil Lenz clearly showed the importance of
>>
>> both Seebeck and Peltier s discoveries by placing a drop of
>>
>> water on the junction of dissimilar metals which froze then
>>
>> melted when the polarity of the direct current was
>>
>> reversed.These discoveries remained dormant for over 100
>>
>> years because of the unavailability of semiconductor
>>
>> materials which could provide the wide temperature
>>
>> differentials.In the 1930 s semiconductor materials became
>>
>> available which revived the electric cooling principles.In
>>
>> the 1960 s many companies began building spot cooling
>>
>> devices and refrigerators based on these effects using a
>>
>> junction material of bismuth-telluride. Today more advanced
>>
>> materials are used with the basic parameters of being a pore
>>
>> thermal conductor but being an excellent electrical
>>
>> conductor. The dissimilar materials must provide a high
>>
>> coefficient of voltage temperature relationship.The first
>>
>> Peltier devices that I experimented with back about 10 years
>>
>> ago were built by Marlow Industries here in Dallas.With a
>>
>> small temperature differential across the device a weak
>>
>> current with an attendant voltage was developed.Increasing
>>
>> the differential provided a proportional increase in current
>>
>> and voltage.About 6 years ago I posted a chart of the
>>
>> wattage generated from two different size Peltier chips on
>>
>> the KeelyNet BBS.My curiosity was based on the puzzle of
>>
>> how electron flow could move thermal energy across the
>>
>> junctions and how electrical energy was produced by moving
>>
>> thermal energy across the junction.This is a directly
>>
>> reversible situation based on polarity.
>>
>> Now let us look at a very familiar parallel process used in
>>
>> refrigeration, cooling and heating devices employing phase
>>
>> change material such as water and refrigerants.We have
>>
>> always been led to believe that evaporating water provided
>>
>> cooling effects which is a mechanical process. By the same
>>
>> mechanical process we are provided heating effects by the
>>
>> condensation of a gas back to a liquid phase change.Would
>>
>> you believe that any material that undergoes a phase change
>>
>> provides an attendant electrical effect.Back in 1840
>>
>> Armstrong invented an electrostatic generator based on
>>
>> escaping steam through insulated nozzles which provided one
>>
>> of the most powerful devices of this type ever built.
>>
>> Popular belief was that this was a frictional process with
>>
>> the electrical output resulting from the steam friction
>>
>> passing through the nozzles.After reading an old (1920 s)
>>
>> Thermodynamics in Chemistry text book I realized that the
>>
>> phase change of materials was an electrical phenomenon and
>>
>> not purely mechanical.The atoms of the material lose or
>>
>> gain electrons in the process which accounts for the
>>
>> discrepancy in the energy equation when a material
>>
>> transitions between phases.More energy is present after
>>
>> the phase change back to the lower form or atomic state. The
>>
>> text book stated that this phenomenon could not be
>>
>> explained.When Jerry and I attended a Conference hosted by
>>
>> Hal Puthoff down in Austin back about 6 years ago a
>>
>> physicist from Austria presented a paper on the phase change
>>
>> of water and the attendant electrical phenomenon which is
>>
>> totally not understood by modern science.Now my suspicions
>>
>> were confirmed that phase changes of materials are an
>>
>> electrostatic phenomenon, which leads us to the fundamental
>>
>> question of, What is heat?We were told in the school
>>
>> that heat is the presence of energy and cool is the absence
>>
>> of energy.What is the form of this energy?Let us look at
>>
>> a very simple example of heating which may explain this
>>
>> process.When sunlight strikes an absorbing surface it is
>>
>> heated because electrons in the material are converted to
>>
>> photons which are emitted in the infrared band of light
>>
>> leaving the material in a net positive state or hot.The
>>
>> more electrons a material looses the hotter it becomes.Now
>>
>> the inverse situation is explored by evaporating some water
>>
>> from the surface of a material which leaves the surface in a
>>
>> net negative state or cold.Heat or cold is based on the
>>
>> ion relationship in the material.When we apply a flame
>>
>> (ionizing) to a material we cause the emission of photons
>>
>> which is basically stripping away electrons from the atomic
>>
>> structure causing a gross net positive situation to occur.
>>
>> Now we are getting a picture as to how an electric current
>>
>> across the Peltier junction can transport thermal energy
>>
>> (ions).Since the energy is in the form of presence or
>>
>> absence of electrons then it is a simple explanation as to
>>
>> how the process works.All phase change processes work the
>>
>> same way basically via ion transport and are not mechanical
>>
>> processes which we were taught.Everything in chemistry is
>>
>> an electrical or electrostatic process at the atomic level
>>
>> based on the ionized state of the atoms involved.
>>
>> At a Vangard Science Round table discussion several years ago
>>
>> we talked about the ion wind method of fire fighting in
>>
>> which ionized air will extinguish a flame because of the
>>
>> cooling effects.Now we see Patents issued based on
>>
>> negative ion spraying of a surface causing it to rapidly
>>
>> cool because it becomes net negative charged.This is a
>>
>> very efficient method of air-conditioning because an ion
>>
>> generator operates at very high voltages with very little
>>
>> current involved.It is possible to develop this ion
>>
>> transport (thermal energy) to provide direct electrical
>>
>> output from very subtle temperature differentials.Remember
>>
>> that this is a direct reversible process where a thermal
>>
>> differential will cause a development of current and voltage
>>
>> as in the Peltier device.I hope that this dialog will
>>
>> provide some food for thought out there on the KeelyNet.
>>
>> Please provide some feedback on this very interesting line
>>
>> of experimentation.Norm
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/30/2018 10:49 AM, Bob Paddock wrote:
>>> On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 9:42 AM Norman Wootan<[email protected]>  wrote:
>>>
>>>> As molten iron cools past its freezing point of 1538 °C, it crystallizes
>>> Where would something like the Barkenhausen effect, fit into this
>>> whole Iron thing?; See Volume-II of the Feynman Lecture on Physics.
>>> Feynman demonstrates energy generation, at a small scale.
>>>
>>> There is also "CATER, Joseph: The Awesome Life Force ~ A 1980s classic
>>> review of alternative sciences (PDF)",
>>> based on a mixture of conventional and original ideas by Cater.
>>>
>>> http://rexresearch.com/pdf/CaterAwesomeLifeForce.pdf
>>>
>>> Pg 126 "Nature of Magnetic Fields", pg 167 "Soft Electrons, Magnetic
>>> fields", pg 204 "Transmission through materials"
>>>
>>> which lead us to pg 256 "THE SELF-SUSTAINING ELECTRIC GENERATOR",
>>> based on Hubbard's Generator made of Iron shown later in the book.
>>>
>>> We also have those that prefer to use metals that were forged
>>> pre-atomic-blasts in some esoteric devices. ?
>>>
>>>> ��My brain is only a receiver, in the Universe there is a core from which we obtain knowledge, strength and inspiration. I have not penetrated into the secrets of this core, but I know that it exists.”
>>>> ― Nikola Tesla
>>> Considered the Raikov Effect or Deep Trance Identification?
>>>
>
Norm,

You are the first person I have read who has made sense of the burning
nitrogen from the Increasing Human Energy treatise!  Ok with that we
would be back to your dream of ion multiplication as a form of excess
energy. 

On 12/30/2018 1:02 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
> Warden Cliff Manifesto
To add to the info on the Neo magnetic NNEMP weapon, take a look at this 
Army doc. https://www.wired.com/2009/03/army-turns-bomb/    In the old 
Flux compression Generators there was a need for HV capacitor bank and a 
long solenoid coil to provide the powerful magnetic flux field needed to 
be annihilated which yielded the EMP (Magneto-electric pulse).  It  
reasoned that the new family of Neo magnets held the necessary flux 
strength which negated the heavy capacitors and copper solenoid coil.  
With a super fast explosive , Octanitrocubane  could destroy the Neo's 
in the nanosecond range needed for the EMP shot (magnetic flux converted 
into particle flux which is the constituents of the magnetic field)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octanitrocubane



On 12/30/2018 11:42 AM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Remember that my main line of research is the Magnetic flux 
> annihilation-Reconnect EMP phenomenon.  Here is a first step into 
> learning more about the Magnetoelectric effect.  Just build sensors. 
> See attachment.   Now that you have a sensor lets look at the 
> Magnetoelectric (EMP output when you destroy a very powerful neo 
> magnet via rapid explosives.  Remember that energy cannot be destroyed 
> but can convert into another form of energy we call the 
> Magnetoelectric EMP.  See 
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explosive-driven_ferromagnetic_generator 
> This is a direct conversion of powerful magnetic flux field directly 
> into very high power electrical output.
>
> On 12/30/2018 11:29 AM, Norman Wootan wrote:
>>
>> Tesla's Pyro generator to which I referred which took advantage of 
>> iron phase shift.
>>
>> https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/patents/us-patent-428057-pyromagneto-electric-generator
>>
>> Somewhere here we have to jump back and address IONS both positive and negative.  See my 1996 paper for KeelyNet titled WHAT is Heat which dealt with ionization and its potential.  The loss or gain of electrons in the atomic lattice causes the precise predictability of the various phase change points.
>>
>> This is the Bad Boy that I wanted to build using nitrogen gas and an alpha emitter electrodes.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> What is Heat #2
>>
>> For about 10 years I have been studying the effects of
>>
>> heating and cooling associated with the phase change of
>>
>> liquids with the hope of building a simple generator of
>>
>> electrical power around the phenomenon.The reason for this
>>
>> interest is based on the theory that energy can be extracted
>>
>> from the ambient background via thermal differentials.My
>>
>> line of thinking really took off back when I experimented
>>
>> with the all too familiar Peltier junction devices found in
>>
>> electronic cooling devices.Would you believe that most
>>
>> people do not understand how these devices move thermal
>>
>> energy through a current flow across a semiconductor
>>
>> junction.Historically we find that German physicist,
>>
>> Thomas Seebeck back in 1820 observed that when heat was
>>
>> applied to a junction of copper and steel wire that
>>
>> electrical energy resulted.Later in 1834 Jean Peltier
>>
>> discovered that when a direct current was applied to two
>>
>> dissimilar metals the junction got hot or cold.It was not
>>
>> until 1838 that Emil Lenz clearly showed the importance of
>>
>> both Seebeck and Peltier s discoveries by placing a drop of
>>
>> water on the junction of dissimilar metals which froze then
>>
>> melted when the polarity of the direct current was
>>
>> reversed.These discoveries remained dormant for over 100
>>
>> years because of the unavailability of semiconductor
>>
>> materials which could provide the wide temperature
>>
>> differentials.In the 1930 s semiconductor materials became
>>
>> available which revived the electric cooling principles.In
>>
>> the 1960 s many companies began building spot cooling
>>
>> devices and refrigerators based on these effects using a
>>
>> junction material of bismuth-telluride. Today more advanced
>>
>> materials are used with the basic parameters of being a pore
>>
>> thermal conductor but being an excellent electrical
>>
>> conductor. The dissimilar materials must provide a high
>>
>> coefficient of voltage temperature relationship.The first
>>
>> Peltier devices that I experimented with back about 10 years
>>
>> ago were built by Marlow Industries here in Dallas.With a
>>
>> small temperature differential across the device a weak
>>
>> current with an attendant voltage was developed.Increasing
>>
>> the differential provided a proportional increase in current
>>
>> and voltage.About 6 years ago I posted a chart of the
>>
>> wattage generated from two different size Peltier chips on
>>
>> the KeelyNet BBS.My curiosity was based on the puzzle of
>>
>> how electron flow could move thermal energy across the
>>
>> junctions and how electrical energy was produced by moving
>>
>> thermal energy across the junction.This is a directly
>>
>> reversible situation based on polarity.
>>
>> Now let us look at a very familiar parallel process used in
>>
>> refrigeration, cooling and heating devices employing phase
>>
>> change material such as water and refrigerants.We have
>>
>> always been led to believe that evaporating water provided
>>
>> cooling effects which is a mechanical process. By the same
>>
>> mechanical process we are provided heating effects by the
>>
>> condensation of a gas back to a liquid phase change.Would
>>
>> you believe that any material that undergoes a phase change
>>
>> provides an attendant electrical effect.Back in 1840
>>
>> Armstrong invented an electrostatic generator based on
>>
>> escaping steam through insulated nozzles which provided one
>>
>> of the most powerful devices of this type ever built.
>>
>> Popular belief was that this was a frictional process with
>>
>> the electrical output resulting from the steam friction
>>
>> passing through the nozzles.After reading an old (1920 s)
>>
>> Thermodynamics in Chemistry text book I realized that the
>>
>> phase change of materials was an electrical phenomenon and
>>
>> not purely mechanical.The atoms of the material lose or
>>
>> gain electrons in the process which accounts for the
>>
>> discrepancy in the energy equation when a material
>>
>> transitions between phases.More energy is present after
>>
>> the phase change back to the lower form or atomic state. The
>>
>> text book stated that this phenomenon could not be
>>
>> explained.When Jerry and I attended a Conference hosted by
>>
>> Hal Puthoff down in Austin back about 6 years ago a
>>
>> physicist from Austria presented a paper on the phase change
>>
>> of water and the attendant electrical phenomenon which is
>>
>> totally not understood by modern science.Now my suspicions
>>
>> were confirmed that phase changes of materials are an
>>
>> electrostatic phenomenon, which leads us to the fundamental
>>
>> question of, What is heat?We were told in the school
>>
>> that heat is the presence of energy and cool is the absence
>>
>> of energy.What is the form of this energy?Let us look at
>>
>> a very simple example of heating which may explain this
>>
>> process.When sunlight strikes an absorbing surface it is
>>
>> heated because electrons in the material are converted to
>>
>> photons which are emitted in the infrared band of light
>>
>> leaving the material in a net positive state or hot.The
>>
>> more electrons a material looses the hotter it becomes.Now
>>
>> the inverse situation is explored by evaporating some water
>>
>> from the surface of a material which leaves the surface in a
>>
>> net negative state or cold.Heat or cold is based on the
>>
>> ion relationship in the material.When we apply a flame
>>
>> (ionizing) to a material we cause the emission of photons
>>
>> which is basically stripping away electrons from the atomic
>>
>> structure causing a gross net positive situation to occur.
>>
>> Now we are getting a picture as to how an electric current
>>
>> across the Peltier junction can transport thermal energy
>>
>> (ions).Since the energy is in the form of presence or
>>
>> absence of electrons then it is a simple explanation as to
>>
>> how the process works.All phase change processes work the
>>
>> same way basically via ion transport and are not mechanical
>>
>> processes which we were taught.Everything in chemistry is
>>
>> an electrical or electrostatic process at the atomic level
>>
>> based on the ionized state of the atoms involved.
>>
>> At a Vangard Science Round table discussion several years ago
>>
>> we talked about the ion wind method of fire fighting in
>>
>> which ionized air will extinguish a flame because of the
>>
>> cooling effects.Now we see Patents issued based on
>>
>> negative ion spraying of a surface causing it to rapidly
>>
>> cool because it becomes net negative charged.This is a
>>
>> very efficient method of air-conditioning because an ion
>>
>> generator operates at very high voltages with very little
>>
>> current involved.It is possible to develop this ion
>>
>> transport (thermal energy) to provide direct electrical
>>
>> output from very subtle temperature differentials.Remember
>>
>> that this is a direct reversible process where a thermal
>>
>> differential will cause a development of current and voltage
>>
>> as in the Peltier device.I hope that this dialog will
>>
>> provide some food for thought out there on the KeelyNet.
>>
>> Please provide some feedback on this very interesting line
>>
>> of experimentation.Norm
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/30/2018 10:49 AM, Bob Paddock wrote:
>>> On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 9:42 AM Norman Wootan<[email protected]>  wrote:
>>>
>>>> As molten iron cools past its freezing point of 1538 °C, it crystallizes
>>> Where would something like the Barkenhausen effect, fit into this
>>> whole Iron thing?; See Volume-II of the Feynman Lecture on Physics.
>>> Feynman demonstrates energy generation, at a small scale.
>>>
>>> There is also "CATER, Joseph: The Awesome Life Force ~ A 1980s classic
>>> review of alternative sciences (PDF)",
>>> based on a mixture of conventional and original ideas by Cater.
>>>
>>> http://rexresearch.com/pdf/CaterAwesomeLifeForce.pdf
>>>
>>> Pg 126 "Nature of Magnetic Fields", pg 167 "Soft Electrons, Magnetic
>>> fields", pg 204 "Transmission through materials"
>>>
>>> which lead us to pg 256 "THE SELF-SUSTAINING ELECTRIC GENERATOR",
>>> based on Hubbard's Generator made of Iron shown later in the book.
>>>
>>> We also have those that prefer to use metals that were forged
>>> pre-atomic-blasts in some esoteric devices. ?
>>>
>>>> ��My brain is only a receiver, in the Universe there is a core from which we obtain knowledge, strength and inspiration. I have not penetrated into the secrets of this core, but I know that it exists.”
>>>> ― Nikola Tesla
>>> Considered the Raikov Effect or Deep Trance Identification?
>>>
>

[13/54] Re: [EVGRAY] re: Longitudinal wave antenna

2018-12-30T14:57:10-05:00 · Bob Paddock <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <CAPYb0EHtjcDf8bpJGAAC2guaPzUTR=WbAQDCvf-m_g5n2ugJVw@mail.gmail.com>
> junction material of bismuth-telluride.

Bismuth is diamagnetic and tends to show up in Superconders.
I always wonder that that connection is?


> always been led to believe that evaporating water provided
> cooling effects which is a mechanical process. By the same
> mechanical process we are provided heating effects by the
> condensation of a gas back to a liquid phase change.

Viktor schauberger et.al.

> electrostatic phenomenon, which leads us to the fundamental
> question of, What is heat?

Would not the more fundamental question be what is Entropy?

I and others have noted that high entropy events are easier to detect
across time and space.

Heat transitions may be a local phenomenon where a change in entropy
may not be totally local.

> ion relationship in the material.  When we apply a flame
> (ionizing) to a material we cause the emission of photons

Can also emit longitudinal sound waves as in Flame (Plasma) Speakers.

> we talked about the ion wind method of fire fighting in
> which ionized air will extinguish a flame because of the
> cooling effects.

It is not accepted in the Firefighting Industry at large because of
the high voltage spark potential.
UL913, ATEX etc.
Ole,  I think Roman is for real, this is very possible  he is using the
super fast rise time of the Schmitt trigger inverter to saturate with a
DC pulse train at a ferrores harmonic like a Q switched cavity mode
resonator.  This could be very similar to pumping a ruby rod with a
strobe.  As per your thoughts there is not enough current to generate
the Webbers per area otherwise unless the core is some freaky material.
I have to watch the video does it make the magnetostriction noise when
it runs?

Maybe the circuit is fast enough to create the NMR frequency
amplification effects in the core.

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2014/0252920.pdf

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2014/0252921.pdf



On 12/30/2018 4:43 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> Hi Norman, Mick,
>
> I wonder if Roman Karnouhov (Akula0083) is driving the core into
> saturation by a sequence of pulses in his self-runner lanterns. He
> shows the collector voltage of the output transistor that drives the
> primary coil in his lantern going negative:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nl9E8F1gOD0 (21:58).
> The auto generated subtitle translation of this video isn't too good.
> The negative biasing happens while the transistor is supposed to be
> forward conducting by having positive base signal. The current through
> the winding isn't shown to actual see what happens. Roman claims the
> effect to be ferrorresoannce which requires the core to actually
> saturate. It's also claimed that the rise time of the primary coil
> signal must be faster than the period of the ferroresonant frequency.
> Such short pulse periods at this low voltage shouldn't saturate the
> coil unless it is already biased close to the saturation current. This
> could actually be the case with the unidirectional succeeding pulses.
> Roman doesn't show the phasing of the primary to secondary coils. But
> if the secondary current flows while the primary current is off and
> the converter runs in continuous mode (i.e. the current never goes to
> zero) the working point of the magnetization can be put around the
> saturation level (the knee point of the magnetization curve). This
> allows storing magnetic energy in the core to be able to saturate it
> by adding only a small amount of extra energy. This is then done by
> the very short pulse that saturates the core and thus makes the
> inductance of the windings almost vanish which increases the current
> through the windings. Roman calls this the inertia of the current. As
> the current is always continuous through an inductor (i.e. no jumps
> are allowed) only the voltage across it can jump or change sign to
> switch the power direction from absorbing energy to giving off energy.
> But the voltage across the primary coil doesn't change sign. Instead
> the voltage across it increases to more than the supply voltage by
> crossing the ground level (0V). As this voltage is greater than the
> input voltage the energy can't flow from the voltage supply and thus
> either must exit the primary winding through the reverse biased
> transistor or exit through the secondary winding. As we don't know the
> phasing of the windings the current of the secondary can go through
> one of the two output diodes (VD3, VD4) to either the LEDs or back to
> the voltage supply capacitors.
>
> This image is copied from the beginning of the video. The circuit in
> the blue box to the right isn't finished or shown in the video.
>
> Regards
> Ole
>
>
>
> ---In [email protected], <nwootan@...> wrote :
>
> https://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/electromagnetism/magnetic-hysteresis.html
>
> Please understand that Tesla totally understood the BH curves of the different types of iron and steel.  Tesla advocated driving soft iron cores into deep supersaturation where as Ole has pointed out the L value of your inductor disappears.   The simple door buzzer experiment is a classic example of the anamalous spike output because the iron core material is so soft grade of iron, you can carve off a sliver with a sharp knife. It is dead soft iron.   I wanted to make soft iron cores from electrolytic iron or Ferricpentacarbynol which you can sinster into any shape you want.  The iron wire coils were experimented with by Tesla and you can see by the above charts that they saturate  very early on the scale.  Tesla experimented with a coil device that used the idea of popping in and out of the saturation point which is a variable inductor effect  which in amplified current.   The rapid varying capacitor effect is used in the Hyde generator which in effect magnifies voltage (electron pump).
>
>
> On 12/29/2018 6:59 PM, Mick mkjekyll@... <mailto:mkjekyll@...>
> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
>>      
>>
>>     Norm,
>>
>>     BTW this should remind you of your mirror image coil experiment that
>>     cannot be replicated by simply switching polarity.  Pretty cool
>>     how one
>>     version of it transmits through a Faraday cage by design.  This
>>     system
>>     is a very high Q design so requires the fine level of assembly Warren
>>     and Sven also example in their work.
>>
>>     As far as taming the magnetoelectric event yes it is quite the
>>     challenge
>>     but why not, already have a trash can full of deactivated sand,
>>     might as
>>     well keep on going when the new thyratrons arrive.
>>
>>     Can you elaborate on your experiments utilizing iron wire coils
>>     and what
>>     you found with this investigation?
>>
>>     Here is an antenna design that generates and receives Tesla's
>>
>>     hyper-luminal waves
>>
>>     http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2007/0013595.html
>>
>
Ole,

Maybe he has a neo on the core to get it close to saturation.

On 12/30/2018 4:43 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> Hi Norman, Mick,
>
> I wonder if Roman Karnouhov (Akula0083) is driving the core into
> saturation by a sequence of pulses in his self-runner lanterns. He
> shows the collector voltage of the output transistor that drives the
> primary coil in his lantern going negative:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nl9E8F1gOD0 (21:58).
> The auto generated subtitle translation of this video isn't too good.
> The negative biasing happens while the transistor is supposed to be
> forward conducting by having positive base signal. The current through
> the winding isn't shown to actual see what happens. Roman claims the
> effect to be ferrorresoannce which requires the core to actually
> saturate. It's also claimed that the rise time of the primary coil
> signal must be faster than the period of the ferroresonant frequency.
> Such short pulse periods at this low voltage shouldn't saturate the
> coil unless it is already biased close to the saturation current. This
> could actually be the case with the unidirectional succeeding pulses.
> Roman doesn't show the phasing of the primary to secondary coils. But
> if the secondary current flows while the primary current is off and
> the converter runs in continuous mode (i.e. the current never goes to
> zero) the working point of the magnetization can be put around the
> saturation level (the knee point of the magnetization curve). This
> allows storing magnetic energy in the core to be able to saturate it
> by adding only a small amount of extra energy. This is then done by
> the very short pulse that saturates the core and thus makes the
> inductance of the windings almost vanish which increases the current
> through the windings. Roman calls this the inertia of the current. As
> the current is always continuous through an inductor (i.e. no jumps
> are allowed) only the voltage across it can jump or change sign to
> switch the power direction from absorbing energy to giving off energy.
> But the voltage across the primary coil doesn't change sign. Instead
> the voltage across it increases to more than the supply voltage by
> crossing the ground level (0V). As this voltage is greater than the
> input voltage the energy can't flow from the voltage supply and thus
> either must exit the primary winding through the reverse biased
> transistor or exit through the secondary winding. As we don't know the
> phasing of the windings the current of the secondary can go through
> one of the two output diodes (VD3, VD4) to either the LEDs or back to
> the voltage supply capacitors.
>
> This image is copied from the beginning of the video. The circuit in
> the blue box to the right isn't finished or shown in the video.
>
> Regards
> Ole
>
>
>
> ---In [email protected], <nwootan@...> wrote :
>
> https://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/electromagnetism/magnetic-hysteresis.html
>
> Please understand that Tesla totally understood the BH curves of the different types of iron and steel.  Tesla advocated driving soft iron cores into deep supersaturation where as Ole has pointed out the L value of your inductor disappears.   The simple door buzzer experiment is a classic example of the anamalous spike output because the iron core material is so soft grade of iron, you can carve off a sliver with a sharp knife. It is dead soft iron.   I wanted to make soft iron cores from electrolytic iron or Ferricpentacarbynol which you can sinster into any shape you want.  The iron wire coils were experimented with by Tesla and you can see by the above charts that they saturate  very early on the scale.  Tesla experimented with a coil device that used the idea of popping in and out of the saturation point which is a variable inductor effect  which in amplified current.   The rapid varying capacitor effect is used in the Hyde generator which in effect magnifies voltage (electron pump).
>
>
> On 12/29/2018 6:59 PM, Mick mkjekyll@... <mailto:mkjekyll@...>
> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
>>      
>>
>>     Norm,
>>
>>     BTW this should remind you of your mirror image coil experiment that
>>     cannot be replicated by simply switching polarity.  Pretty cool
>>     how one
>>     version of it transmits through a Faraday cage by design.  This
>>     system
>>     is a very high Q design so requires the fine level of assembly Warren
>>     and Sven also example in their work.
>>
>>     As far as taming the magnetoelectric event yes it is quite the
>>     challenge
>>     but why not, already have a trash can full of deactivated sand,
>>     might as
>>     well keep on going when the new thyratrons arrive.
>>
>>     Can you elaborate on your experiments utilizing iron wire coils
>>     and what
>>     you found with this investigation?
>>
>>     Here is an antenna design that generates and receives Tesla's
>>
>>     hyper-luminal waves
>>
>>     http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2007/0013595.html
>>
>
Ole,

The magnet, It was just another guess. I did not know he mentioned NMR. 

I think we are all coming very close to the answers with Norm reminding
us of the importance of the saturated state iron energy pump.  Just have
to find the commonalities of the working systems without becoming
overwhelmed.

On 12/30/2018 7:01 PM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> kHi Mick,
>
> I don't think he use magnets to bias the core. Here is a YouTube
> channel with Akula videos:
> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCe-rV_geumWg3VXqgZ9pjvw/videos.
> In one of the videos he show that there is an air gap at each leg of
> the ring core (double U-core) made by two small pieces of paper. It's
> the video of the number four lantern where he splits it apart at the
> end. He also shows how to find the NMR of a core in one of the videos.
>
> If not removing the energy while keeping on adding pulses to the
> primary coil the core will go into saturation. If the output is of too
> low resistance it can't absorb the energy fast enough which only
> increases the magnetization. At some point the inductance decreases
> when the core can't conduct anymore magnetic flux.
>
> Here is Akula0083's YouTube channel:
> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2aHNMDJzRW7YDd145_Pa2w/featured. To
> find his free energy videos here go back three to four years in the
> 'VIDEOS' tab.
>
> Regards
> Ole
>
>
>
> ---In [email protected], <mkjekyll@...> wrote :
>
> Ole,
>
> Maybe he has a neo on the core to get it close to saturation.
>
> On 12/30/2018 4:43 PM, onielsen@... <mailto:onielsen@...> [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
>>      
>>
>>     Hi Norman, Mick,
>>
>>     I wonder if Roman Karnouhov (Akula0083) is driving the core into
>>     saturation by a sequence of pulses in his self-runner lanterns.
>>     He shows the collector voltage of the output transistor that
>>     drives the primary coil in his lantern going negative:
>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nl9E8F1gOD0 (21:58).
>>     The auto generated subtitle translation of this video isn't too
>>     good. The negative biasing happens while the transistor is
>>     supposed to be forward conducting by having positive base signal.
>>     The current through the winding isn't shown to actual see what
>>     happens. Roman claims the effect to be ferrorresoannce which
>>     requires the core to actually saturate. It's also claimed that
>>     the rise time of the primary coil signal must be faster than the
>>     period of the ferroresonant frequency. Such short pulse periods
>>     at this low voltage shouldn't saturate the coil unless it is
>>     already biased close to the saturation current. This could
>>     actually be the case with the unidirectional succeeding pulses.
>>     Roman doesn't show the phasing of the primary to secondary coils.
>>     But if the secondary current flows while the primary current is
>>     off and the converter runs in continuous mode (i.e. the current
>>     never goes to zero) the working point of the magnetization can be
>>     put around the saturation level (the knee point of the
>>     magnetization curve). This allows storing magnetic energy in the
>>     core to be able to saturate it by adding only a small amount of
>>     extra energy. This is then done by the very short pulse that
>>     saturates the core and thus makes the inductance of the windings
>>     almost vanish which increases the current through the windings.
>>     Roman calls this the inertia of the current. As the current is
>>     always continuous through an inductor (i.e. no jumps are allowed)
>>     only the voltage across it can jump or change sign to switch the
>>     power direction from absorbing energy to giving off energy. But
>>     the voltage across the primary coil doesn't change sign. Instead
>>     the voltage across it increases to more than the supply voltage
>>     by crossing the ground level (0V). As this voltage is greater
>>     than the input voltage the energy can't flow from the voltage
>>     supply and thus either must exit the primary winding through the
>>     reverse biased transistor or exit through the secondary winding.
>>     As we don't know the phasing of the windings the current of the
>>     secondary can go through one of the two output diodes (VD3, VD4)
>>     to either the LEDs or back to the voltage supply capacitors.
>>
>
Norm,

A trip to the welding store and some tig high thorium rods and what
would you think is a good housing material, barium titanate, mica?  and
would you use that black body coating on the pickup plates surfaces the
underneath being a cation and anion doped conductor such as phosphate
copper and nickel aluminum?  Maybe some length to assist in the
convection?  How much lead around this in case it throws neutrons or gamma?

Could be the design calls for the conductors parallel and insulators
opposite to create the square profile rather than a single material. 
The field coil might work better with the pole pieces behind the pickup
plates or 45 degrees rather than 90 degrees, right hand rule... hmm...  
Bench testing required.


On 12/30/2018 12:29 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>  
>
> Tesla's Pyro generator to which I referred which took advantage of
> iron phase shift.
>
> https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/patents/us-patent-428057-pyromagneto-electric-generator
>
> Somewhere here we have to jump back and address IONS both positive and negative.  See my 1996 paper for KeelyNet titled WHAT is Heat which dealt with ionization and its potential.  The loss or gain of electrons in the atomic lattice causes the precise predictability of the various phase change points.
>
> This is the Bad Boy that I wanted to build using nitrogen gas and an alpha emitter electrodes. 
>
>
>
>
>
>                      What is Heat #2
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> For about 10 years I have been studying the effects of
>
> heating and cooling associated with the phase change of
>
> liquids with the hope of building a simple generator of
>
> electrical power around the phenomenon.  The reason for this
>
> interest is based on the theory that energy can be extracted
>
> from the ambient background via thermal differentials.  My
>
> line of thinking really took off back when I experimented
>
> with the all too familiar Peltier junction devices found in
>
> electronic cooling devices.  Would you believe that most
>
> people do not understand how these devices move thermal
>
> energy through a current flow across a semiconductor
>
> junction.  Historically we find that German physicist,
>
> Thomas Seebeck back in 1820 observed that when heat was
>
> applied to a junction of copper and steel wire that
>
> electrical energy resulted.  Later in 1834 Jean Peltier
>
> discovered that when a direct current was applied to two
>
> dissimilar metals the junction got hot or cold.  It was not
>
> until 1838 that Emil Lenz clearly showed the importance of
>
> both Seebeck and Peltier s discoveries by placing a drop of
>
> water on the junction of dissimilar metals which froze then
>
> melted when the polarity of the direct current was
>
> reversed.  These discoveries remained dormant for over 100
>
> years because of the unavailability of semiconductor
>
> materials which could provide the wide temperature
>
> differentials.  In the 1930 s semiconductor materials became
>
> available which revived the electric cooling principles.  In
>
> the 1960 s many companies began building spot cooling
>
> devices and refrigerators based on these effects using a
>
> junction material of bismuth-telluride. Today more advanced
>
> materials are used with the basic parameters of being a pore
>
> thermal conductor but being an excellent electrical
>
> conductor. The dissimilar materials must provide a high
>
> coefficient of voltage temperature relationship.  The first
>
> Peltier devices that I experimented with back about 10 years
>
> ago were built by Marlow Industries here in Dallas.   With a
>
> small temperature differential across the device a weak
>
> current with an attendant voltage was developed.  Increasing
>
> the differential provided a proportional increase in current
>
> and voltage.  About 6 years ago I posted a chart of the
>
> wattage generated from two different size Peltier chips on
>
> the KeelyNet BBS.   My curiosity was based on the puzzle of
>
> how electron flow could move thermal energy across the
>
> junctions and how electrical energy was produced by moving
>
> thermal energy across the junction.  This is a directly
>
> reversible situation based on polarity.
>
> Now let us look at a very familiar parallel process used in
>
> refrigeration, cooling and heating devices employing phase
>
> change material such as water and refrigerants.  We have
>
> always been led to believe that evaporating water provided
>
> cooling effects which is a mechanical process. By the same
>
> mechanical process we are provided heating effects by the
>
> condensation of a gas back to a liquid phase change.  Would
>
> you believe that any material that undergoes a phase change
>
> provides an attendant electrical effect.   Back in 1840
>
> Armstrong invented an electrostatic generator based on
>
> escaping steam through insulated nozzles which provided one
>
> of the most powerful devices of this type ever built.
>
> Popular belief was that this was a frictional process with
>
> the electrical output resulting from the steam friction
>
> passing through the nozzles.   After reading an old (1920 s)
>
> Thermodynamics in Chemistry text book I realized that the
>
> phase change of materials was an electrical phenomenon and
>
> not purely mechanical.  The atoms of the material lose or
>
> gain electrons in the process which accounts for the
>
> discrepancy in the energy equation when a material
>
> transitions between phases.  More energy is present after
>
> the phase change back to the lower form or atomic state. The
>
> text book stated that this phenomenon could not be
>
> explained.  When Jerry and I attended a Conference hosted by
>
> Hal Puthoff down in Austin back about 6 years ago a
>
> physicist from Austria presented a paper on the phase change
>
> of water and the attendant electrical phenomenon which is
>
> totally not understood by modern science.  Now my suspicions
>
> were confirmed that phase changes of materials are an
>
> electrostatic phenomenon, which leads us to the fundamental
>
> question of, What is heat?    We were told in the school
>
> that heat is the presence of energy and cool is the absence
>
> of energy.  What is the form of this energy?  Let us look at
>
> a very simple example of heating which may explain this
>
> process.  When sunlight strikes an absorbing surface it is
>
> heated because electrons in the material are converted to
>
> photons which are emitted in the infrared band of light
>
> leaving the material in a net positive state or hot.  The
>
> more electrons a material looses the hotter it becomes.  Now
>
> the inverse situation is explored by evaporating some water
>
> from the surface of a material which leaves the surface in a
>
> net negative state or cold.  Heat or cold is based on the
>
> ion relationship in the material.  When we apply a flame
>
> (ionizing) to a material we cause the emission of photons
>
> which is basically stripping away electrons from the atomic
>
> structure causing a gross net positive situation to occur.
>
> Now we are getting a picture as to how an electric current
>
> across the Peltier junction can transport thermal energy
>
> (ions).  Since the energy is in the form of presence or
>
> absence of electrons then it is a simple explanation as to
>
> how the process works.  All phase change processes work the
>
> same way basically via ion transport and are not mechanical
>
> processes which we were taught.  Everything in chemistry is
>
> an electrical or electrostatic process at the atomic level
>
> based on the ionized state of the atoms involved.
>
> At a Vangard Science Round table discussion several years ago
>
> we talked about the ion wind method of fire fighting in
>
> which ionized air will extinguish a flame because of the
>
> cooling effects.  Now we see Patents issued based on
>
> negative ion spraying of a surface causing it to rapidly
>
> cool because it becomes net negative charged.  This is a
>
> very efficient method of air-conditioning because an ion
>
> generator operates at very high voltages with very little
>
> current involved.   It is possible to develop this ion
>
> transport (thermal energy) to provide direct electrical
>
> output from very subtle temperature differentials.  Remember
>
> that this is a direct reversible process where a thermal
>
> differential will cause a development of current and voltage
>
> as in the Peltier device.   I hope that this dialog will
>
> provide some food for thought out there on the KeelyNet.
>
> Please provide some feedback on this very interesting line
>
> of experimentation.   Norm
>
>  
>
>
>
>
> On 12/30/2018 10:49 AM, Bob Paddock wrote:
>> On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 9:42 AM Norman Wootan <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> As molten iron cools past its freezing point of 1538 °C, it crystallizes
>> Where would something like the Barkenhausen effect, fit into this
>> whole Iron thing?; See Volume-II of the Feynman Lecture on Physics.
>> Feynman demonstrates energy generation, at a small scale.
>>
>> There is also "CATER, Joseph: The Awesome Life Force ~ A 1980s classic
>> review of alternative sciences (PDF)",
>> based on a mixture of conventional and original ideas by Cater.
>>
>> http://rexresearch.com/pdf/CaterAwesomeLifeForce.pdf
>>
>> Pg 126 "Nature of Magnetic Fields", pg 167 "Soft Electrons, Magnetic
>> fields", pg 204 "Transmission through materials"
>>
>> which lead us to pg 256 "THE SELF-SUSTAINING ELECTRIC GENERATOR",
>> based on Hubbard's Generator made of Iron shown later in the book.
>>
>> We also have those that prefer to use metals that were forged
>> pre-atomic-blasts in some esoteric devices. ?
>>
>>> “My brain is only a receiver, in the Universe there is a core from which we obtain knowledge, strength and inspiration. I have not penetrated into the secrets of this core, but I know that it exists.”
>>> ― Nikola Tesla
>> Considered the Raikov Effect or Deep Trance Identification?
>>
>

[18/54] Re: [EVGRAY] re: Longitudinal wave antenna

2018-12-30T21:43:20+00:00 · onielsen2000 <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Hi Norman, Mick,

I wonder if Roman Karnouhov (Akula0083) is driving the core into saturation by a sequence of pulses in his self-runner lanterns. He shows the collector voltage of the output transistor that drives the primary coil in his lantern going negative: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nl9E8F1gOD0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nl9E8F1gOD0 (21:58).
The auto generated subtitle translation of this video isn't too good. The negative biasing happens while the transistor is supposed to be forward conducting by having positive base signal. The current through the winding isn't shown to actual see what happens. Roman claims the effect to be ferrorresoannce which requires the core to actually saturate. It's also claimed that the rise time of the primary coil signal must be faster than the period of the ferroresonant frequency. Such short pulse periods at this low voltage shouldn't saturate the coil unless it is already biased close to the saturation current. This could actually be the case with the unidirectional succeeding pulses. Roman doesn't show the phasing of the primary to secondary coils. But if the secondary current flows while the primary current is off and the converter runs in continuous mode (i.e. the current never goes to zero) the working point of the magnetization can be put around the saturation level (the knee point of the magnetization curve). This allows storing magnetic energy in the core to be able to saturate it by adding only a small amount of extra energy. This is then done by the very short pulse that saturates the core and thus makes the inductance of the windings almost vanish which increases the current through the windings. Roman calls this the inertia of the current. As the current is always continuous through an inductor (i.e. no jumps are allowed) only the voltage across it can jump or change sign to switch the power direction from absorbing energy to giving off energy. But the voltage across the primary coil doesn't change sign. Instead the voltage across it increases to more than the supply voltage by crossing the ground level (0V). As this voltage is greater than the input voltage the energy can't flow from the voltage supply and thus either must exit the primary winding through the reverse biased transistor or exit through the secondary winding. As we don't know the phasing of the windings the current of the secondary can go through one of the two output diodes (VD3, VD4) to either the LEDs or back to the voltage supply capacitors.

This image is copied from the beginning of the video. The circuit in the blue box to the right isn't finished or shown in the video.

Regards
Ole 

---In [email protected], <nwootan@...> wrote :

 https://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/electromagnetism/magnetic-hysteresis.html https://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/electromagnetism/magnetic-hysteresis.html

Please understand that Tesla totally understood the BH curves of the different types of iron and steel.  Tesla advocated driving soft iron cores into deep supersaturation where as Ole has pointed out the L value of your inductor disappears.   The simple door buzzer experiment is a classic example of the anamalous spike output because the iron core material is so soft grade of iron, you can carve off a sliver with a sharp knife. It is dead soft iron.   I wanted to make soft iron cores from electrolytic iron or Ferricpentacarbynol which you can sinster into any shape you want.  The iron wire coils were experimented with by Tesla and you can see by the above charts that they saturate  very early on the scale.  Tesla experimented with a coil device that used the idea of popping in and out of the saturation point which is a variable inductor effect  which in amplified current.   The rapid varying capacitor effect is used in the Hyde generator which in effect magnifies voltage (electron pump).


 On 12/29/2018 6:59 PM, Mick mkjekyll@... mailto:mkjekyll@... [EVGRAY] wrote:

   Norm,
 
 BTW this should remind you of your mirror image coil experiment that
 cannot be replicated by simply switching polarity.  Pretty cool how one
 version of it transmits through a Faraday cage by design.  This system
 is a very high Q design so requires the fine level of assembly Warren
 and Sven also example in their work.
 
 As far as taming the magnetoelectric event yes it is quite the challenge
 but why not, already have a trash can full of deactivated sand, might as
 well keep on going when the new thyratrons arrive.
 
 Can you elaborate on your experiments utilizing iron wire coils and what
 you found with this investigation?
 
 Here is an antenna design that generates and receives Tesla's
 
 hyper-luminal waves
 
 http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2007/0013595.html http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2007/0013595.html

[19/54] Re: [EVGRAY] re: Longitudinal wave antenna

2018-12-31T00:01:35+00:00 · onielsen2000 <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Hi Mick,

I don't think he use magnets to bias the core. Here is a YouTube channel with Akula videos: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCe-rV_geumWg3VXqgZ9pjvw/videos https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCe-rV_geumWg3VXqgZ9pjvw/videos.
In one of the videos he show that there is an air gap at each leg of the ring core (double U-core) made by two small pieces of paper. It's the video of the number four lantern where he splits it apart at the end. He also shows how to find the NMR of a core in one of the videos.

If not removing the energy while keeping on adding pulses to the primary coil the core will go into saturation. If the output is of too low resistance it can't absorb the energy fast enough which only increases the magnetization. At some point the inductance decreases when the core can't conduct anymore magnetic flux.

Here is Akula0083's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2aHNMDJzRW7YDd145_Pa2w/featured https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2aHNMDJzRW7YDd145_Pa2w/featured. To find his free energy videos here go back three to four years in the 'VIDEOS' tab.

Regards
Ole
 

---In [email protected], <mkjekyll@...> wrote :

 Ole,
 Maybe he has a neo on the core to get it close to saturation.

 On 12/30/2018 4:43 PM, onielsen@... mailto:onielsen@... [EVGRAY] wrote:

   Hi Norman, Mick,
 
 I wonder if Roman Karnouhov (Akula0083) is driving the core into saturation by a sequence of pulses in his self-runner lanterns. He shows the collector voltage of the output transistor that drives the primary coil in his lantern going negative: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nl9E8F1gOD0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nl9E8F1gOD0 (21:58).
 The auto generated subtitle translation of this video isn't too good. The negative biasing happens while the transistor is supposed to be forward conducting by having positive base signal. The current through the winding isn't shown to actual see what happens. Roman claims the effect to be ferrorresoannce which requires the core to actually saturate. It's also claimed that the rise time of the primary coil signal must be faster than the period of the ferroresonant frequency. Such short pulse periods at this low voltage shouldn't saturate the coil unless it is already biased close to the saturation current. This could actually be the case with the unidirectional succeeding pulses. Roman doesn't show the phasing of the primary to secondary coils. But if the secondary current flows while the primary current is off and the converter runs in continuous mode (i.e. the current never goes to zero) the working point of the magnetization can be put around the saturation level (the knee point of the magnetization curve). This allows storing magnetic energy in the core to be able to saturate it by adding only a small amount of extra energy. This is then done by the very short pulse that saturates the core and thus makes the inductance of the windings almost vanish which increases the current through the windings. Roman calls this the inertia of the current. As the current is always continuous through an inductor (i.e. no jumps are allowed) only the voltage across it can jump or change sign to switch the power direction from absorbing energy to giving off energy. But the voltage across the primary coil doesn't change sign. Instead the voltage across it increases to more than the supply voltage by crossing the ground level (0V). As this voltage is greater than the input voltage the energy can't flow from the voltage supply and thus either must exit the primary winding through the reverse biased transistor or exit through the secondary winding. As we don't know the phasing of the windings the current of the secondary can go through one of the two output diodes (VD3, VD4) to either the LEDs or back to the voltage supply capacitors.

[20/54] Re: [EVGRAY] re: Longitudinal wave antenna

2018-12-31T05:21:53-06:00 · Norman Wootan <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
https://www.ewm-group.com/en/specialised-knowledge/colour-codes-for-tungsten-electrodes.html 
Mick, I had already bought the WT-20 Red 2% tungsten rods and a Russian 
RADIAC to monitor the alpha particle radiation. The square magnetic 
channel is typical MHD technology with the pickup plates for the 90 
degree DC + and - distribution made of silver in my device.  I had a 
bank of large storage caps, 3.5 MFD @ 60KV for the HVDC output.  I was 
salvaging out the large Pressure Swing Absorption (PSA) units used by 
the Western Electric (Bell Telephone) switching centers to Nitrogen dry 
their cables. These units produced good nitrogen from compressed air and 
desiccant dried it.   Another one of my research endeavors that got side 
tracked when the GAZPROM contract materialized in 2005, IVR, (Implosion 
Vortex Reactor) to produce Hydrogen.  My lab was just too busy a place 
in addition to me having to still work for a living. No time to play!   
Like you, I was always fascinated by the Tesla Manifesto and just by 
accident acquired the plans for the Tesla Nitrogen burning device.  Now 
we know what it is all about.  I still have not figured out what the 
by-product would be from the nitrogen burning other than a darn good 
soil fertilizer to which Tesla alluded to in his writings. Tesla 
understood the Nitrogen Fixation by Lightning which occurs in nature.  
Plants love it.

On 12/30/2018 8:41 PM, Mick [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>
> Norm,
>
> A trip to the welding store and some tig high thorium rods and what 
> would you think is a good housing material, barium titanate, mica?  
> and would you use that black body coating on the pickup plates 
> surfaces the underneath being a cation and anion doped conductor such 
> as phosphate copper and nickel aluminum?  Maybe some length to assist 
> in the convection?  How much lead around this in case it throws 
> neutrons or gamma?
>
> Could be the design calls for the conductors parallel and insulators 
> opposite to create the square profile rather than a single material.  
> The field coil might work better with the pole pieces behind the 
> pickup plates or 45 degrees rather than 90 degrees, right hand rule... 
> hmm...   Bench testing required.
>
>
> On 12/30/2018 12:29 PM, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY] wrote:
>>
>> Tesla's Pyro generator to which I referred which took advantage of 
>> iron phase shift.
>>
>> https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/patents/us-patent-428057-pyromagneto-electric-generator
>>
>> Somewhere here we have to jump back and address IONS both positive and negative.  See my 1996 paper for KeelyNet titled WHAT is Heat which dealt with ionization and its potential.  The loss or gain of electrons in the atomic lattice causes the precise predictability of the various phase change points.
>>
>> This is the Bad Boy that I wanted to build using nitrogen gas and an alpha emitter electrodes.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> What is Heat #2
>>
>> For about 10 years I have been studying the effects of
>>
>> heating and cooling associated with the phase change of
>>
>> liquids with the hope of building a simple generator of
>>
>> electrical power around the phenomenon.The reason for this
>>
>> interest is based on the theory that energy can be extracted
>>
>> from the ambient background via thermal differentials.My
>>
>> line of thinking really took off back when I experimented
>>
>> with the all too familiar Peltier junction devices found in
>>
>> electronic cooling devices.Would you believe that most
>>
>> people do not understand how these devices move thermal
>>
>> energy through a current flow across a semiconductor
>>
>> junction.Historically we find that German physicist,
>>
>> Thomas Seebeck back in 1820 observed that when heat was
>>
>> applied to a junction of copper and steel wire that
>>
>> electrical energy resulted.Later in 1834 Jean Peltier
>>
>> discovered that when a direct current was applied to two
>>
>> dissimilar metals the junction got hot or cold.It was not
>>
>> until 1838 that Emil Lenz clearly showed the importance of
>>
>> both Seebeck and Peltier s discoveries by placing a drop of
>>
>> water on the junction of dissimilar metals which froze then
>>
>> melted when the polarity of the direct current was
>>
>> reversed.These discoveries remained dormant for over 100
>>
>> years because of the unavailability of semiconductor
>>
>> materials which could provide the wide temperature
>>
>> differentials.In the 1930 s semiconductor materials became
>>
>> available which revived the electric cooling principles.In
>>
>> the 1960 s many companies began building spot cooling
>>
>> devices and refrigerators based on these effects using a
>>
>> junction material of bismuth-telluride. Today more advanced
>>
>> materials are used with the basic parameters of being a pore
>>
>> thermal conductor but being an excellent electrical
>>
>> conductor. The dissimilar materials must provide a high
>>
>> coefficient of voltage temperature relationship.The first
>>
>> Peltier devices that I experimented with back about 10 years
>>
>> ago were built by Marlow Industries here in Dallas.With a
>>
>> small temperature differential across the device a weak
>>
>> current with an attendant voltage was developed.Increasing
>>
>> the differential provided a proportional increase in current
>>
>> and voltage.About 6 years ago I posted a chart of the
>>
>> wattage generated from two different size Peltier chips on
>>
>> the KeelyNet BBS.My curiosity was based on the puzzle of
>>
>> how electron flow could move thermal energy across the
>>
>> junctions and how electrical energy was produced by moving
>>
>> thermal energy across the junction.This is a directly
>>
>> reversible situation based on polarity.
>>
>> Now let us look at a very familiar parallel process used in
>>
>> refrigeration, cooling and heating devices employing phase
>>
>> change material such as water and refrigerants.We have
>>
>> always been led to believe that evaporating water provided
>>
>> cooling effects which is a mechanical process. By the same
>>
>> mechanical process we are provided heating effects by the
>>
>> condensation of a gas back to a liquid phase change.Would
>>
>> you believe that any material that undergoes a phase change
>>
>> provides an attendant electrical effect.Back in 1840
>>
>> Armstrong invented an electrostatic generator based on
>>
>> escaping steam through insulated nozzles which provided one
>>
>> of the most powerful devices of this type ever built.
>>
>> Popular belief was that this was a frictional process with
>>
>> the electrical output resulting from the steam friction
>>
>> passing through the nozzles.After reading an old (1920 s)
>>
>> Thermodynamics in Chemistry text book I realized that the
>>
>> phase change of materials was an electrical phenomenon and
>>
>> not purely mechanical.The atoms of the material lose or
>>
>> gain electrons in the process which accounts for the
>>
>> discrepancy in the energy equation when a material
>>
>> transitions between phases.More energy is present after
>>
>> the phase change back to the lower form or atomic state. The
>>
>> text book stated that this phenomenon could not be
>>
>> explained.When Jerry and I attended a Conference hosted by
>>
>> Hal Puthoff down in Austin back about 6 years ago a
>>
>> physicist from Austria presented a paper on the phase change
>>
>> of water and the attendant electrical phenomenon which is
>>
>> totally not understood by modern science.Now my suspicions
>>
>> were confirmed that phase changes of materials are an
>>
>> electrostatic phenomenon, which leads us to the fundamental
>>
>> question of, What is heat?We were told in the school
>>
>> that heat is the presence of energy and cool is the absence
>>
>> of energy.What is the form of this energy?Let us look at
>>
>> a very simple example of heating which may explain this
>>
>> process.When sunlight strikes an absorbing surface it is
>>
>> heated because electrons in the material are converted to
>>
>> photons which are emitted in the infrared band of light
>>
>> leaving the material in a net positive state or hot.The
>>
>> more electrons a material looses the hotter it becomes.Now
>>
>> the inverse situation is explored by evaporating some water
>>
>> from the surface of a material which leaves the surface in a
>>
>> net negative state or cold.Heat or cold is based on the
>>
>> ion relationship in the material.When we apply a flame
>>
>> (ionizing) to a material we cause the emission of photons
>>
>> which is basically stripping away electrons from the atomic
>>
>> structure causing a gross net positive situation to occur.
>>
>> Now we are getting a picture as to how an electric current
>>
>> across the Peltier junction can transport thermal energy
>>
>> (ions).Since the energy is in the form of presence or
>>
>> absence of electrons then it is a simple explanation as to
>>
>> how the process works.All phase change processes work the
>>
>> same way basically via ion transport and are not mechanical
>>
>> processes which we were taught.Everything in chemistry is
>>
>> an electrical or electrostatic process at the atomic level
>>
>> based on the ionized state of the atoms involved.
>>
>> At a Vangard Science Round table discussion several years ago
>>
>> we talked about the ion wind method of fire fighting in
>>
>> which ionized air will extinguish a flame because of the
>>
>> cooling effects.Now we see Patents issued based on
>>
>> negative ion spraying of a surface causing it to rapidly
>>
>> cool because it becomes net negative charged.This is a
>>
>> very efficient method of air-conditioning because an ion
>>
>> generator operates at very high voltages with very little
>>
>> current involved.It is possible to develop this ion
>>
>> transport (thermal energy) to provide direct electrical
>>
>> output from very subtle temperature differentials.Remember
>>
>> that this is a direct reversible process where a thermal
>>
>> differential will cause a development of current and voltage
>>
>> as in the Peltier device.I hope that this dialog will
>>
>> provide some food for thought out there on the KeelyNet.
>>
>> Please provide some feedback on this very interesting line
>>
>> of experimentation.Norm
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/30/2018 10:49 AM, Bob Paddock wrote:
>>> On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 9:42 AM Norman Wootan<[email protected]>  wrote:
>>>
>>>> As molten iron cools past its freezing point of 1538 °C, it crystallizes
>>> Where would something like the Barkenhausen effect, fit into this
>>> whole Iron thing?; See Volume-II of the Feynman Lecture on Physics.
>>> Feynman demonstrates energy generation, at a small scale.
>>>
>>> There is also "CATER, Joseph: The Awesome Life Force ~ A 1980s classic
>>> review of alternative sciences (PDF)",
>>> based on a mixture of conventional and original ideas by Cater.
>>>
>>> http://rexresearch.com/pdf/CaterAwesomeLifeForce.pdf
>>>
>>> Pg 126 "Nature of Magnetic Fields", pg 167 "Soft Electrons, Magnetic
>>> fields", pg 204 "Transmission through materials"
>>>
>>> which lead us to pg 256 "THE SELF-SUSTAINING ELECTRIC GENERATOR",
>>> based on Hubbard's Generator made of Iron shown later in the book.
>>>
>>> We also have those that prefer to use metals that were forged
>>> pre-atomic-blasts in some esoteric devices. ?
>>>
>>>> “My brain is only a receiver, in the Universe there is a core from which we obtain knowledge, strength and inspiration. I have not penetrated into the secrets of this core, but I know that it exists.”
>>>> ― Nikola Tesla
>>> Considered the Raikov Effect or Deep Trance Identification?
>>>
>