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Hi Warren,
"Back to the trick, mixing waves to coheraence, how do we set this experiment up?"
I'm using electronics as that's what I have knowledge of and means to build and experiment with. Kapanadze does both electronics and mechanics. As long as the principle is valid any means can be used. Viktor Schauberger used air and water so if one know pneumatics or hydraulics that's another way to go.
"In a down to earth way, can we wind coils, to make transformers to achieve coherence,?"
That's what I'm trying. Perhaps the fields must travel into the ambient and not just stay inside the magnetic conductors of the core?! But I don't see that this would matter if the fundamental fields are all penetrating. I see ferrous materials as being good candidates for a nonlinear mixer when working around the saturation region.
Perhaps a nonlinear transmission line is what is needed for the mixer. If one knows it all becomes very simple I guess. Everything was hard until someone found the principles. Many that have made self-running devices aren't good at explaining how to do it or perhaps just aren't willing to tell so. Inventors are very secretive while their investors want to know everything to finance them which make it a bad combination. Thus don't expect such a device to come from that path. It's probably a full time job to make such a device. Without much time a long while may go before achieving good results. We just have to keep on trying. I'm going somewhere along the way of the Clemente Figuera patents with slow progress. I wonder how long Pierre Cotnoir has come with his next device.
Regards
Ole
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Ole Back to the trick, mixing waves to coheraence, how do we set this experiment up?
It is very useful to have a concept to work to, namely, coherence, when attempting to coax energy out of a device.
If this is it, I feel like I have been groping in the dark, with energy machines, for the last 15 years!
Ha,ha.
To put an illustration to where we are not quite at now.
In the late 70's I spent about $600
Canadian, for a tube type helium neon laser. It was only 3 watts but was enough to make a single key of a vey expensive computer, at that time, simply light up, for a three second shot, in a television commercial, on command.
I was considered a well paid hero, at that time, saving the production company thousands of dollars, by not having to trash several computers, which they had budgeted for, to do such a thing, as cutting the keyboards apart, and installing grain of wheat light bulbs inside special ones, made from clear acrylic, and so on.
All these things are now common as dirt, at corner stores, with cat toy, lasers, selling for $1.25, and keyboards, if they exist at all, just light, on places we touch.
How soon we take it all for granted.
So to imagine it, is almost most of the way to making it happen.
In a down to earth way, can we wind coils, to make transformers to achieve coherence,?
What about spiral pancake TESLA coils? Do you think this could be possible? What would the trick have to be?
Cheers Warren
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On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 at 6:29 AM, onielsen@... [EVGRAY]
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Hi Warren,
Ocean waves just rides through each other by crossing on top of each other. That's also what happens when crossing two beams of light. This is superposition (https://wiki2.org/en/Superposition_principle https://wiki2.org/en/Superposition_principle) where the energy just adds up. For coherence (https://wiki2.org/en/Coherence_(physics) https://wiki2.org/en/Coherence_(physics)) the single waves are mixed into just one wave which is how the energy becomes more than when just adding up the energy of each single wave. This is like a LASER beam where each single wave merges to become one single coherent wave that doesn't split apart.
The trick is to input the single waves then mix them into a coherent wave before using the energy. This happens in LASERs. When the wave is coherent it doesn't split up into the components forming it. Waves formed by superposition splits up after riding through each other to become the initial single waves after the passage.
Regards
Ole
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Ole On the ocean, when sailing off shore, is has been reported that occasional waves are many times larger than the prevailing conditions.
They are called rogue waves, and have capsized vessels.
The scientific theory seems to match the concept of coherance of waves, of a magnetic field, too.
Cheers Warren
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On Sun, 25 Nov 2018 at 9:31 PM, onielsen@... [EVGRAY]
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Hi Bob,
"What if the Arc/Spark is part of the actual process in getting more energy?"
Of course this is a possibility. Chernetsky's self-generating discharge plasma claims just that (http://rexresearch.com/chernetskii/chernetskii.htm http://rexresearch.com/chernetskii/chernetskii.htm). Also plasma tubes has some regions with negative resistance characteristic and electron tubes can strip off the electron emitting layer and use this as an energy source. But perhaps burning or consuming the materials in other ways is just as efficient?!
Personally I like the Inversion principle of W.B. Smith as he claims that this principle can take out energy from the cosmic background of space. That background is electrons and positrons according to Smith and those particles are what makes up the physical world we're part of. The trick is to mix two fields of the same kind same size and same direction to become coherent. This happens in electromagnetic coils and many other places. Take two similar coils having the same current through them. Each one represents one unit of energy or a total of two units of energy. Now put the same two coils on only one of the cores and the inductance is quadrupled when the fields are reinforcing each other. Put the same current as before through the 'new' coil and the stored energy is four times that of a single coil on the same core. I.e. that's four units of energy. The current hasn't changed. Only the space changed to share both coils. Smith never built such a device before his death as far as I know. The principle of inversion is explained in chapter ten of his book: http://www.rexresearch.com/smith/newsci~1.htm#ch10forces http://www.rexresearch.com/smith/newsci~1.htm#ch10forces
Tariel Kapanadze may use that same principle in his electronic self-runners. Dr. Andrey Melnichenko accidentally discovered that same principle when melting a microwave waveguide by having three microwave transmitters send their waves through that rectangular copper tube without having enough power to melt it. The waves became coherent and thus actually did melt the tube. Three similar waves becoming coherent is 9 times the power of a single wave.
Regards
Ole
---In [email protected], <bob.paddock@...> wrote :
> Why not replace the relay with a switching transistor. Mechanical switches wear fast compared to a semiconductor switch.
What if the Arc/Spark is part of the actual process in getting more energy?
Every O/U thing I've ever though worked usually had a Plasm or Arc/Spark.
Usually not intentionally and the designer always wanted to get rid of it.