FLYING IN SPACE WITH A REAL FLY ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE STATION!!!

Warren,
I understand about saying "I can do that", as I said in 1981 that I could make a system to call the lines in tennis to shut John McEnroe up.  Then everyone said "well, come on put up or shut up" and so I had to do it to save face.  It's a lot about the ego when you are young and then the challenge comes into it, and you are sure you are going to win at all costs.
Those people who stole my intellectual property and patented it spent about $7,000,000.00 all up, and put a system in the Birdswood Resort in Western Australia and then after 3 years of use I put a stop to them and it has never operated again.  So I lost out but they lost a lot more.
At the time I was already into natural health and so I kept going with that and I've been able to cure many of the things doctors can't cure, and any type of cancer for the last 30 years.  I don't do it for money but solely for my own satisfaction to prove I can do it.
I like a challenge where someone says it can't be done, and then I make sure I can do it.
The same treatment for curing cancer also cures MND and MS and many other things, such as all the auto immune problems.
I've had a friend who was thrown from a horse when breaking it in and he became a quadriplegic with no hope they said.  I got him back to normal and back to work and driving a car again and he got married again.  Ten years later he went to the doctor and was told he had cancer and he went straight home and blew his head off with a shotgun.
We go through life learning all the time, and the older you get the more you learn.
Then you die with all that knowledge.  What a waste.

George

    On Friday, 1 June 2018, 20:01:10 GMT+10, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:  
 
     
George
One never knows what is out there to be done. How about a roller skating hippopotomus mascot costume?It was all grist for the mill.All kinds of ideas float around looking to be reality.It is only a matter of being young and foolish, saying " I can do that"! Then throwing yourself, ego, creativity, and commitment, the whole bag, to convert concept, into reality, for a client.Phone rings......." can you make IQ tests for raccoons?" Sure!....Phone rings "how much for a room of the future?.... Answer " how big of a room, and how far into the future?"You start to worry when they want delivery the day before yesterday.It is a very simple negociation.You quote what it will cost, and how much time to deliver, 50% down to begin, and the balance on delivery.While it is true, many of the objects are make believe, they still have to perform a function as visible reality.Sometimes the simplest solution is to make it real and practical.How do you retire?You take on a really very hard job that nobody pays you for, and you keep doing it until you get it working.Welcome to the EVergray group!Cheers Watren
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  On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 3:34 AM, george gray [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       

 Sounds  like a good and interesting project Warren.George

    On Friday, 1 June 2018, 02:17:41 GMT+10, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:  
 
     
George
I made a full sized replica of the first and second stages of the lunar lander module. I tried to be as accurate to the original, as possible, working from drawings and, of all things, a plastic model.
It was not missile science to build, nust damn good aircraft engineering, with a little formula 1 racing car, thrown in for good measure.The space frame legs and mounts, very well engineered for the landing gear stage, with hydraulic fancy shock absorbers, not that unlike helicopters or aircraft, or as I mentioned racing car space frame construction, which I am more familiar with.How would you design, and build such a device? Not really that much different, I am sure, even if it had to land on the moon, given the technology available in the day, and the skills and abilities of a workshop crew, skilled in the art, to build it.The crew module mounted on top, that jetisoned the legs module, to save weight/ fuel, left it on the moon after using it as a launch pad for takeoff, was of monocoque construction sheet metal titanium/ aluminium skinned affair, that unibodied car design picked up on, some years later.When they were saying that the research and development that went into the space program helped industry on the ground, that proved to be no lie, as anybody into home built aircraft, or racing cars, can testify to. Even achitects and designers adopted much of the engineering used in the space program, for more mundane projects on the ground.Bear in mind, the people who worked on the space programs didn't all end their careers when the gig was over, to simply get work watering a golf course.( not to diminish those who do that) but they went on to work in other projects, bringing with them, what they learned in their last job, as we all do, no matter what it is.My lunar lander all came apart and was built pretty much as the original, as that was also the most ecconomical and easy way to build it.I didn't use titanium, but did use steel and aluminium. The base leg section was light weight thin walled steel tubing, welded in exactly the same places and manner as the original, even to the flexing of the suspension legs.Doing something like that gives a guy a trip through the design engineers heads who originally though this sucker up.They too were given a job to do, and went about it in a decent workman manner.I didn't use gold foil. I managed to get gold annodized vacuum deposited mylar to fake the gold foil. I cheated on thruster motors using Javex bottles cut and painted, and stubby dry wall screws as shadow catching rivets.It was used in a feature film about an artist who trained a flock of Canadian geese to fly South, called "Father Goose"And had powered hang gliders etcA family film, I was proud to be part of.Cheers Warren
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  On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 4:42 AM, george gray [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       

 Warren,
Speaking about fantasy-land, well, most of the people of the world have been in fantasy-land about the moon landing since 1969, but I'm not one of them.

The people trying to clean up radioactive material at Chernobyl asked NASA to provide them with protective clothing to protect the workers from radiation.  They wanted clothing such as that worn by those who went to the moon.  They were told no such protective clothing existed.
Have you examined what the co-called moon lander was made of?  Some curtain rods, duck tape and aluminium foil etc., all to withstand temperatures up to 2000C.

NASA has admitted that we never went to the moon and a lot of the film footage of the moon landing was shot in a studio in England.
Research the fake moon landings.
George

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    On Wednesday, 30 May 2018, 13:30:39 GMT+10, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:  
 
     
George shame on you for going off into fantasy land.
Where were you when the Appolo astranauts walked on the moon. What were you doing?I was standing with fifty or hundred people who had walked across mountains for three days to watch this event on a flickering black, and white, TV, in the market, in Oaxaca, Mexico. As the boys walked on the surface of the Moon, people were  standing there, weeping. Weeping, not for Nasa, not for the USA , but for the entire planet Earth, and these naked monkeys, have just touched another orbiting body, and we all celebrate the acheivement.Later, a few nights later, in Monte Alban, I lay on my back in the most clear atmosphere on this planet, and watched as the space craft, carrying the astronauts, re-entered, in a spectacle so stunning , that it could be seen with the naked eye.I have had friends who worked on getting the folks out of the world, and on to the moon.The Avro Arrow team were scooped up, and taken to work in United States, on the lunar mission.Who wouldn't?Check the people. All most half were Canadians from the Arrow team.Somebody is just making shit up, reallyCheers Warren

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  On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 5:11 PM, george gray [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       






https://youtu.be/Dzoh_Ym3d6I

|  | FLYING IN SPACE WITH A REAL FLY ON OUTSIDE OF STATION!!!youtu.beFLY ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE ISS LIVE FLY ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE RUSSIAN SEGMENT OF THE SPACE STATION. THIS FLY IS FLYING OUTSIDE THE SPACE STATION!!!! All foota... |

Its true George, youth is wasted on young people.Now we know what to do with it,"my body aches where I used to play" as Lenard Cohen says in his song.Cheers Warren
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 11:26 AM, george gray [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       

 Warren,
I understand about saying "I can do that", as I said in 1981 that I could make a system to call the lines in tennis to shut John McEnroe up.  Then everyone said "well, come on put up or shut up" and so I had to do it to save face.  It's a lot about the ego when you are young and then the challenge comes into it, and you are sure you are going to win at all costs.
Those people who stole my intellectual property and patented it spent about $7,000,000.00 all up, and put a system in the Birdswood Resort in Western Australia and then after 3 years of use I put a stop to them and it has never operated again.  So I lost out but they lost a lot more.
At the time I was already into natural health and so I kept going with that and I've been able to cure many of the things doctors can't cure, and any type of cancer for the last 30 years.  I don't do it for money but solely for my own satisfaction to prove I can do it.
I like a challenge where someone says it can't be done, and then I make sure I can do it.
The same treatment for curing cancer also cures MND and MS and many other things, such as all the auto immune problems.
I've had a friend who was thrown from a horse when breaking it in and he became a quadriplegic with no hope they said.  I got him back to normal and back to work and driving a car again and he got married again.  Ten years later he went to the doctor and was told he had cancer and he went straight home and blew his head off with a shotgun.
We go through life learning all the time, and the older you get the more you learn.
Then you die with all that knowledge.  What a waste.

George

    On Friday, 1 June 2018, 20:01:10 GMT+10, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:  
 
     
George
One never knows what is out there to be done. How about a roller skating hippopotomus mascot costume?It was all grist for the mill.All kinds of ideas float around looking to be reality.It is only a matter of being young and foolish, saying " I can do that"! Then throwing yourself, ego, creativity, and commitment, the whole bag, to convert concept, into reality, for a client.Phone rings......." can you make IQ tests for raccoons?" Sure!....Phone rings "how much for a room of the future?.... Answer " how big of a room, and how far into the future?"You start to worry when they want delivery the day before yesterday.It is a very simple negociation.You quote what it will cost, and how much time to deliver, 50% down to begin, and the balance on delivery.While it is true, many of the objects are make believe, they still have to perform a function as visible reality.Sometimes the simplest solution is to make it real and practical.How do you retire?You take on a really very hard job that nobody pays you for, and you keep doing it until you get it working.Welcome to the EVergray group!Cheers Watren
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  On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 3:34 AM, george gray [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       

 Sounds  like a good and interesting project Warren.George

    On Friday, 1 June 2018, 02:17:41 GMT+10, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:  
 
     
George
I made a full sized replica of the first and second stages of the lunar lander module. I tried to be as accurate to the original, as possible, working from drawings and, of all things, a plastic model.
It was not missile science to build, nust damn good aircraft engineering, with a little formula 1 racing car, thrown in for good measure.The space frame legs and mounts, very well engineered for the landing gear stage, with hydraulic fancy shock absorbers, not that unlike helicopters or aircraft, or as I mentioned racing car space frame construction, which I am more familiar with.How would you design, and build such a device? Not really that much different, I am sure, even if it had to land on the moon, given the technology available in the day, and the skills and abilities of a workshop crew, skilled in the art, to build it.The crew module mounted on top, that jetisoned the legs module, to save weight/ fuel, left it on the moon after using it as a launch pad for takeoff, was of monocoque construction sheet metal titanium/ aluminium skinned affair, that unibodied car design picked up on, some years later.When they were saying that the research and development that went into the space program helped industry on the ground, that proved to be no lie, as anybody into home built aircraft, or racing cars, can testify to. Even achitects and designers adopted much of the engineering used in the space program, for more mundane projects on the ground.Bear in mind, the people who worked on the space programs didn't all end their careers when the gig was over, to simply get work watering a golf course.( not to diminish those who do that) but they went on to work in other projects, bringing with them, what they learned in their last job, as we all do, no matter what it is.My lunar lander all came apart and was built pretty much as the original, as that was also the most ecconomical and easy way to build it.I didn't use titanium, but did use steel and aluminium. The base leg section was light weight thin walled steel tubing, welded in exactly the same places and manner as the original, even to the flexing of the suspension legs.Doing something like that gives a guy a trip through the design engineers heads who originally though this sucker up.They too were given a job to do, and went about it in a decent workman manner.I didn't use gold foil. I managed to get gold annodized vacuum deposited mylar to fake the gold foil. I cheated on thruster motors using Javex bottles cut and painted, and stubby dry wall screws as shadow catching rivets.It was used in a feature film about an artist who trained a flock of Canadian geese to fly South, called "Father Goose"And had powered hang gliders etcA family film, I was proud to be part of.Cheers Warren
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 4:42 AM, george gray [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       

 Warren,
Speaking about fantasy-land, well, most of the people of the world have been in fantasy-land about the moon landing since 1969, but I'm not one of them.

The people trying to clean up radioactive material at Chernobyl asked NASA to provide them with protective clothing to protect the workers from radiation.  They wanted clothing such as that worn by those who went to the moon.  They were told no such protective clothing existed.
Have you examined what the co-called moon lander was made of?  Some curtain rods, duck tape and aluminium foil etc., all to withstand temperatures up to 2000C.

NASA has admitted that we never went to the moon and a lot of the film footage of the moon landing was shot in a studio in England.
Research the fake moon landings.
George

NASA ADMITS WE NEVER WENT TO THE MOON

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    On Wednesday, 30 May 2018, 13:30:39 GMT+10, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:  
 
     
George shame on you for going off into fantasy land.
Where were you when the Appolo astranauts walked on the moon. What were you doing?I was standing with fifty or hundred people who had walked across mountains for three days to watch this event on a flickering black, and white, TV, in the market, in Oaxaca, Mexico. As the boys walked on the surface of the Moon, people were  standing there, weeping. Weeping, not for Nasa, not for the USA , but for the entire planet Earth, and these naked monkeys, have just touched another orbiting body, and we all celebrate the acheivement.Later, a few nights later, in Monte Alban, I lay on my back in the most clear atmosphere on this planet, and watched as the space craft, carrying the astronauts, re-entered, in a spectacle so stunning , that it could be seen with the naked eye.I have had friends who worked on getting the folks out of the world, and on to the moon.The Avro Arrow team were scooped up, and taken to work in United States, on the lunar mission.Who wouldn't?Check the people. All most half were Canadians from the Arrow team.Somebody is just making shit up, reallyCheers Warren

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  On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 5:11 PM, george gray [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       






https://youtu.be/Dzoh_Ym3d6I

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Hay George update ...I'm feeling good ran around town all day with out
getting exhausted .I took 250 mg of niacin this morning a got a hell of a
capillary flash thought it was going to take my face off .that hasn't
happened in years .it means the niacin isn't needed for repairs I'm healthy
as ever . but need more time to be shure of everything .but looks good !
On Jun 1, 2018 11:07 AM, "Warren Keillor [email protected]
[EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
>
> Its true
> George, youth is wasted on young people.
> Now we know what to do with it,"my body aches where I used to play" as
> Lenard Cohen says in his song.
> Cheers Warren
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>
> On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 11:26 AM, george gray [email protected]
> [EVGRAY]
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Warren,
>
> I understand about saying "I can do that", as I said in 1981 that I could
> make a system to call the lines in tennis to shut John McEnroe up.  Then
> everyone said "well, come on put up or shut up" and so I had to do it to
> save face.  It's a lot about the ego when you are young and then the
> challenge comes into it, and you are sure you are going to win at all costs.
>
> Those people who stole my intellectual property and patented it spent
> about $7,000,000.00 all up, and put a system in the Birdswood Resort in
> Western Australia and then after 3 years of use I put a stop to them and it
> has never operated again.  So I lost out but they lost a lot more.
>
> At the time I was already into natural health and so I kept going with
> that and I've been able to cure many of the things doctors can't cure, and
> any type of cancer for the last 30 years.  I don't do it for money but
> solely for my own satisfaction to prove I can do it.
>
> I like a challenge where someone says it can't be done, and then I make
> sure I can do it.
>
> The same treatment for curing cancer also cures MND and MS and many other
> things, such as all the auto immune problems.
>
> I've had a friend who was thrown from a horse when breaking it in and he
> became a quadriplegic with no hope they said.  I got him back to normal and
> back to work and driving a car again and he got married again.  Ten years
> later he went to the doctor and was told he had cancer and he went straight
> home and blew his head off with a shotgun.
>
> We go through life learning all the time, and the older you get the more
> you learn.
>
> Then you die with all that knowledge.  What a waste.
>
> George
>
> On Friday, 1 June 2018, 20:01:10 GMT+10, Warren Keillor
> [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> George
> One never knows what is out there to be done. How about a roller skating
> hippopotomus mascot costume?
> It was all grist for the mill.
> All kinds of ideas float around looking to be reality.
> It is only a matter of being young and foolish, saying " I can do that"!
> Then throwing yourself, ego, creativity, and commitment, the whole bag, to
> convert concept, into reality, for a client.
> Phone rings......." can you make IQ tests for raccoons?" Sure!....
> Phone rings "how much for a room of the future?.... Answer " how big of a
> room, and how far into the future?"
> You start to worry when they want delivery the day before yesterday.
> It is a very simple negociation.
> You quote what it will cost, and how much time to deliver, 50% down to
> begin, and the balance on delivery.
> While it is true, many of the objects are make believe, they still have to
> perform a function as visible reality.
> Sometimes the simplest solution is to make it real and practical.
> How do you retire?
> You take on a really very hard job that nobody pays you for, and you keep
> doing it until you get it working.
> Welcome to the EVergray group!
> Cheers Watren
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>
> On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 3:34 AM, george gray [email protected]
> [EVGRAY]
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Sounds  like a good and interesting project Warren.
> George
>
> On Friday, 1 June 2018, 02:17:41 GMT+10, Warren Keillor
> [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> George
> I made a full sized replica of the first and second stages of the lunar
> lander module.
> I tried to be as accurate to the original, as possible, working from
> drawings and, of all things, a plastic model.
> It was not missile science to build, nust damn good aircraft engineering,
> with a little formula 1 racing car, thrown in for good measure.
> The space frame legs and mounts, very well engineered for the landing gear
> stage, with hydraulic fancy shock absorbers, not that unlike helicopters or
> aircraft, or as I mentioned racing car space frame construction, which I am
> more familiar with.
> How would you design, and build such a device? Not really that much
> different, I am sure, even if it had to land on the moon, given the
> technology available in the day, and the skills and abilities of a workshop
> crew, skilled in the art, to build it.
> The crew module mounted on top, that jetisoned the legs module, to save
> weight/ fuel, left it on the moon after using it as a launch pad for
> takeoff, was of monocoque construction sheet metal titanium/ aluminium
> skinned affair, that unibodied car design picked up on, some years later.
> When they were saying that the research and development that went into the
> space program helped industry on the ground, that proved to be no lie, as
> anybody into home built aircraft, or racing cars, can testify to. Even
> achitects and designers adopted much of the engineering used in the space
> program, for more mundane projects on the ground.
> Bear in mind, the people who worked on the space programs didn't all end
> their careers when the gig was over, to simply get work watering a golf
> course.( not to diminish those who do that) but they went on to work in
> other projects, bringing with them, what they learned in their last job, as
> we all do, no matter what it is.
> My lunar lander all came apart and was built pretty much as the original,
> as that was also the most ecconomical and easy way to build it.
> I didn't use titanium, but did use steel and aluminium. The base leg
> section was light weight thin walled steel tubing, welded in exactly the
> same places and manner as the original, even to the flexing of the
> suspension legs.
> Doing something like that gives a guy a trip through the design engineers
> heads who originally though this sucker up.
> They too were given a job to do, and went about it in a decent workman
> manner.
> I didn't use gold foil. I managed to get gold annodized vacuum deposited
> mylar to fake the gold foil. I cheated on thruster motors using Javex
> bottles cut and painted, and stubby dry wall screws as shadow catching
> rivets.
> It was used in a feature film about an artist who trained a flock of
> Canadian geese to fly South, called "Father Goose"
> And had powered hang gliders etc
> A family film, I was proud to be part of.
> Cheers Warren
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
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>
> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 4:42 AM, george gray [email protected]
> [EVGRAY]
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Warren,
>
> Speaking about fantasy-land, well, most of the people of the world have
> been in fantasy-land about the moon landing since 1969, but I'm not one of
> them.
>
> The people trying to clean up radioactive material at Chernobyl asked NASA
> to provide them with protective clothing to protect the workers from
> radiation.  They wanted clothing such as that worn by those who went to the
> moon.  They were told no such protective clothing existed.
>
> Have you examined what the co-called moon lander was made of?  Some
> curtain rods, duck tape and aluminium foil etc., all to withstand
> temperatures up to 2000C.
>
> NASA has admitted that we never went to the moon and a lot of the film
> footage of the moon landing was shot in a studio in England.
>
> Research the fake moon landings.
>
> George
>
> NASA ADMITS WE NEVER WENT TO THE MOON <https://youtu.be/DpPMoIv1lxI>
>
> NASA ADMITS WE NEVER WENT TO THE MOON
>
> Unlike all of the other proof over the years about the moon landing hoax,
> this video will examine how NASA thems...
> <https://youtu.be/DpPMoIv1lxI>
>
> Moon Landing Hoax Theory Ended? <https://youtu.be/sJh6Lzy_UKk>
>
> Moon Landing Hoax Theory Ended?
>
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>
>
>
> On Wednesday, 30 May 2018, 13:30:39 GMT+10, Warren Keillor
> [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> George shame on you for going off into fantasy land.
> Where were you when the Appolo astranauts walked on the moon. What were
> you doing?
> I was standing with fifty or hundred people who had walked across
> mountains for three days to watch this event on a flickering black, and
> white, TV, in the market, in Oaxaca, Mexico. As the boys walked on the
> surface of the Moon, people were  standing there, weeping. Weeping, not for
> Nasa, not for the USA , but for the entire planet Earth, and these naked
> monkeys, have just touched another orbiting body, and we all celebrate the
> acheivement.
> Later, a few nights later, in Monte Alban, I lay on my back in the most
> clear atmosphere on this planet, and watched as the space craft, carrying
> the astronauts, re-entered, in a spectacle so stunning , that it could be
> seen with the naked eye.
> I have had friends who worked on getting the folks out of the world, and
> on to the moon.
> The Avro Arrow team were scooped up, and taken to work in United States,
> on the lunar mission.Who wouldn't?
> Check the people. All most half were Canadians from the Arrow team.
> Somebody is just making shit up, really
> Cheers Warren
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
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>
> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 5:11 PM, george gray [email protected]
> [EVGRAY]
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> https://youtu.be/Dzoh_Ym3d6I
> <https://youtu.be/Dzoh_Ym3d6I>
> FLYING IN SPACE WITH A REAL FLY ON OUTSIDE OF STATION!!!
> <https://youtu.be/Dzoh_Ym3d6I>
> youtu.be
> FLY ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE ISS LIVE FLY ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE RUSSIAN
> SEGMENT OF THE SPACE STATION. THIS FLY IS FLYING OUTSIDE THE SPACE
> STATION!!!! All foota...
>
> 
>

Hi James,
 

 I take the slow release niacin... cool B50... no flush
 

 Ron

Good to hear that you are feeling better James, and remember that all degenerative health problems are self-inflicted so keep on eating the raw plant based foods as much as possible.

    On Sunday, 3 June 2018, 04:28:11 GMT+10, James Glinski [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:  
 
     


Hay George update ...I'm feeling good ran around town all day with out getting exhausted .I took 250 mg of niacin this morning a got a hell of a capillary flash thought it was going to take my face off .that hasn't happened in years .it means the niacin isn't needed for repairs I'm healthy as ever . but need more time to be shure of everything .but looks good !
On Jun 1, 2018 11:07 AM, "Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:

     

Its true 
George, youth is wasted on young people.Now we know what to do with it,"my body aches where I used to play" as Lenard Cohen says in his song.Cheers Warren
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  On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 11:26 AM, george gray [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       

 Warren,
I understand about saying "I can do that", as I said in 1981 that I could make a system to call the lines in tennis to shut John McEnroe up.  Then everyone said "well, come on put up or shut up" and so I had to do it to save face.  It's a lot about the ego when you are young and then the challenge comes into it, and you are sure you are going to win at all costs.
Those people who stole my intellectual property and patented it spent about $7,000,000.00 all up, and put a system in the Birdswood Resort in Western Australia and then after 3 years of use I put a stop to them and it has never operated again.  So I lost out but they lost a lot more.
At the time I was already into natural health and so I kept going with that and I've been able to cure many of the things doctors can't cure, and any type of cancer for the last 30 years.  I don't do it for money but solely for my own satisfaction to prove I can do it.
I like a challenge where someone says it can't be done, and then I make sure I can do it.
The same treatment for curing cancer also cures MND and MS and many other things, such as all the auto immune problems.
I've had a friend who was thrown from a horse when breaking it in and he became a quadriplegic with no hope they said.  I got him back to normal and back to work and driving a car again and he got married again.  Ten years later he went to the doctor and was told he had cancer and he went straight home and blew his head off with a shotgun.
We go through life learning all the time, and the older you get the more you learn.
Then you die with all that knowledge.  What a waste.

George

    On Friday, 1 June 2018, 20:01:10 GMT+10, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:  
 
     
George
One never knows what is out there to be done. How about a roller skating hippopotomus mascot costume?It was all grist for the mill.All kinds of ideas float around looking to be reality.It is only a matter of being young and foolish, saying " I can do that"! Then throwing yourself, ego, creativity, and commitment, the whole bag, to convert concept, into reality, for a client.Phone rings......." can you make IQ tests for raccoons?" Sure!....Phone rings "how much for a room of the future?.... Answer " how big of a room, and how far into the future?"You start to worry when they want delivery the day before yesterday.It is a very simple negociation.You quote what it will cost, and how much time to deliver, 50% down to begin, and the balance on delivery.While it is true, many of the objects are make believe, they still have to perform a function as visible reality.Sometimes the simplest solution is to make it real and practical.How do you retire?You take on a really very hard job that nobody pays you for, and you keep doing it until you get it working.Welcome to the EVergray group!Cheers Watren
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  On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 3:34 AM, george gray [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       

 Sounds  like a good and interesting project Warren.George

    On Friday, 1 June 2018, 02:17:41 GMT+10, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:  
 
     
George
I made a full sized replica of the first and second stages of the lunar lander module. I tried to be as accurate to the original, as possible, working from drawings and, of all things, a plastic model.
It was not missile science to build, nust damn good aircraft engineering, with a little formula 1 racing car, thrown in for good measure.The space frame legs and mounts, very well engineered for the landing gear stage, with hydraulic fancy shock absorbers, not that unlike helicopters or aircraft, or as I mentioned racing car space frame construction, which I am more familiar with.How would you design, and build such a device? Not really that much different, I am sure, even if it had to land on the moon, given the technology available in the day, and the skills and abilities of a workshop crew, skilled in the art, to build it.The crew module mounted on top, that jetisoned the legs module, to save weight/ fuel, left it on the moon after using it as a launch pad for takeoff, was of monocoque construction sheet metal titanium/ aluminium skinned affair, that unibodied car design picked up on, some years later.When they were saying that the research and development that went into the space program helped industry on the ground, that proved to be no lie, as anybody into home built aircraft, or racing cars, can testify to. Even achitects and designers adopted much of the engineering used in the space program, for more mundane projects on the ground.Bear in mind, the people who worked on the space programs didn't all end their careers when the gig was over, to simply get work watering a golf course.( not to diminish those who do that) but they went on to work in other projects, bringing with them, what they learned in their last job, as we all do, no matter what it is.My lunar lander all came apart and was built pretty much as the original, as that was also the most ecconomical and easy way to build it.I didn't use titanium, but did use steel and aluminium. The base leg section was light weight thin walled steel tubing, welded in exactly the same places and manner as the original, even to the flexing of the suspension legs.Doing something like that gives a guy a trip through the design engineers heads who originally though this sucker up.They too were given a job to do, and went about it in a decent workman manner.I didn't use gold foil. I managed to get gold annodized vacuum deposited mylar to fake the gold foil. I cheated on thruster motors using Javex bottles cut and painted, and stubby dry wall screws as shadow catching rivets.It was used in a feature film about an artist who trained a flock of Canadian geese to fly South, called "Father Goose"And had powered hang gliders etcA family film, I was proud to be part of.Cheers Warren
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  On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 4:42 AM, george gray [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       

 Warren,
Speaking about fantasy-land, well, most of the people of the world have been in fantasy-land about the moon landing since 1969, but I'm not one of them.

The people trying to clean up radioactive material at Chernobyl asked NASA to provide them with protective clothing to protect the workers from radiation.  They wanted clothing such as that worn by those who went to the moon.  They were told no such protective clothing existed.
Have you examined what the co-called moon lander was made of?  Some curtain rods, duck tape and aluminium foil etc., all to withstand temperatures up to 2000C.

NASA has admitted that we never went to the moon and a lot of the film footage of the moon landing was shot in a studio in England.
Research the fake moon landings.
George

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    On Wednesday, 30 May 2018, 13:30:39 GMT+10, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:  
 
     
George shame on you for going off into fantasy land.
Where were you when the Appolo astranauts walked on the moon. What were you doing?I was standing with fifty or hundred people who had walked across mountains for three days to watch this event on a flickering black, and white, TV, in the market, in Oaxaca, Mexico. As the boys walked on the surface of the Moon, people were  standing there, weeping. Weeping, not for Nasa, not for the USA , but for the entire planet Earth, and these naked monkeys, have just touched another orbiting body, and we all celebrate the acheivement.Later, a few nights later, in Monte Alban, I lay on my back in the most clear atmosphere on this planet, and watched as the space craft, carrying the astronauts, re-entered, in a spectacle so stunning , that it could be seen with the naked eye.I have had friends who worked on getting the folks out of the world, and on to the moon.The Avro Arrow team were scooped up, and taken to work in United States, on the lunar mission.Who wouldn't?Check the people. All most half were Canadians from the Arrow team.Somebody is just making shit up, reallyCheers Warren

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https://youtu.be/Dzoh_Ym3d6I

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I started out taking niacin &got A HEAVY FLUSH  then I discovered NIACINAMIDE there is  NO FLUSH I have been taking 
500MG NIACINIMIDE  it is pretty cheap for the benefit!! 

    On Saturday, June 2, 2018 11:55 AM, "[email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
 

     
Hi James,
I take the slow release niacin... cool B50... no flush
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I feel better because I'm eating meat and no starch that Rob's you of your
health . I use the old niacin because the flush tells you your not being
screwed with a sugar pill slow no flush I think is not real niacen it's a
close substitute .I use the flush to gauge my health levels .  with food
and 125 mg you don't get the flush .but this morning I did get a little
.that's never happened so I'm the  healthiest I've been in decade's. Keep
on keeping. On.!
On Jun 2, 2018 2:43 PM, "werner held [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <
[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> I started out taking niacin &got A HEAVY FLUSH  then I discovered
> NIACINAMIDE there is  NO FLUSH I have been taking
> 500MG NIACINIMIDE  it is pretty cheap for the benefit!!
>
>
> On Saturday, June 2, 2018 11:55 AM, "[email protected] [EVGRAY]" <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Hi James,
>
> I take the slow release niacin... cool B50... no flush
>
> Ron
>
>
> 
>

Hi Ron, Werner and all,

HI GEORGE ,YOU talk of your studies  well in your studies have you ever heard of a way to absorb vitamins&minerals other 
than through the SMALL INTESTINE ??I was in a very BAD ACCIDENT 32yrs back in 1986 I was dead for 1/2 hr in a coma for 3mths my left leg was broke off except the skin holding it on!they put it back in place &let it heal!  Also my SMALL INTESTINE  WAS REMOVED!So it is near impossible for me to take in nutrients easily some are absorbed thru the stomach lining but?!SO YOU SEE MY NEED FOR AN ANSWER TO MY PROBLEM !!I am 64 yrs old & seeing problems arise!THANKS FOR ANY INPUT 

    On Saturday, June 2, 2018 1:21 PM, "george gray [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
 

      Hi Ron, Werner and all,

Werner,
Sorry to hear about your health problem mate.
Because our small intestine is what absorbs most of the nutrients from our food, then if you lost the entire small intestine you would have to be fed intravenously.

Have you lost all of your small intestine?  Your small intestine is 20 feet long Werner, and most surgeries that remove part of the intestines would try to keep as much of the small intestine as possible. If you retained about 5 feet of it you should be able to absorb enough nutrients to survive.
I've not been confronted by anyone with this problem mate, so I haven't gone into it.
The easiest nutrients to absorb are raw fruit and fruit juices.

George




   On Sunday, 3 June 2018, 06:43:54 GMT+10, werner held [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:  
 
     

HI GEORGE ,YOU talk of your studies  well in your studies have you ever heard of a way to absorb vitamins&minerals other 
than through the SMALL INTESTINE ??I was in a very BAD ACCIDENT 32yrs back in 1986 I was dead for 1/2 hr in a coma for 3mths my left leg was broke off except the skin holding it on!they put it back in place &let it heal!  Also my SMALL INTESTINE  WAS REMOVED!So it is near impossible for me to take in nutrients easily some are absorbed thru the stomach lining but?!SO YOU SEE MY NEED FOR AN ANSWER TO MY PROBLEM !!I am 64 yrs old & seeing problems arise!THANKS FOR ANY INPUT 

    On Saturday, June 2, 2018 1:21 PM, "george gray [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
 

      Hi Ron, Werner and all,

intravenously is a good way but you have to get plant derived minerals and
liquid vitamins .get the mix right and it's good .
On Jun 2, 2018 4:22 PM, "george gray [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <
[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> Werner,
>
> Sorry to hear about your health problem mate.
>
> Because our small intestine is what absorbs most of the nutrients from our
> food, then if you lost the entire small intestine you would have to be fed
> intravenously.
>
> Have you lost all of your small intestine?  Your small intestine is 20
> feet long Werner, and most surgeries that remove part of the intestines
> would try to keep as much of the small intestine as possible. If you
> retained about 5 feet of it you should be able to absorb enough nutrients
> to survive.
> I've not been confronted by anyone with this problem mate, so I haven't
> gone into it.
>
> The easiest nutrients to absorb are raw fruit and fruit juices.
>
> George
>
>
>
>
> On Sunday, 3 June 2018, 06:43:54 GMT+10, werner held
> [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> HI GEORGE ,YOU talk of your studies  well in your studies have you ever
> heard of a way to absorb vitamins&minerals other
> than through the SMALL INTESTINE ??I was in a very BAD ACCIDENT 32yrs back
> in 1986 I was dead for 1/2 hr in a coma for 3mths my left leg was broke off
> except the skin holding it on!they put it back in place &let it heal!  Also
> my SMALL INTESTINE  WAS REMOVED!
> So it is near impossible for me to take in nutrients easily some are
> absorbed thru the stomach lining but?!SO YOU SEE MY NEED FOR AN ANSWER TO
> MY PROBLEM !!I am 64 yrs old & seeing problems arise!
> THANKS FOR ANY INPUT
>
>
> On Saturday, June 2, 2018 1:21 PM, "george gray [email protected]
> [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi Ron, Werner and all,
>
> From my studies I've found that vitamin B6 prevents heart attacks and
> strokes.
>
> Many doctors now claim that cholesterol is not the cause of heart attacks
> and strokes.
>
> Experts believe that the real culprit is an amino acid called
> homocysteine, and that vitamin B6 eliminates the harmful substance from the
> body.
>
> They recommend taking 50mg of B6 daily to protect against the build up of
> homocysteine in the blood, which results in hardening of the arteries,
> heart attacks and strokes.
>
> i believe it is best to take the whole slow release mega B complex
> together with multi minerals.  B6 and magnesium go together like a horse
> and carriage; they are good on their own but together they have much better
> health benefits.
>
> Epsom salts is a good cheap way to get magnesium.  Most people take a
> third of a teaspoon to half a teaspoon a day with the B vitamins and any
> other supplements.
>
> George
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sunday, 3 June 2018, 05:43:17 GMT+10, werner held
> [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> I started out taking niacin &got A HEAVY FLUSH  then I discovered
> NIACINAMIDE there is  NO FLUSH I have been taking
> 500MG NIACINIMIDE  it is pretty cheap for the benefit!!
>
>
> On Saturday, June 2, 2018 11:55 AM, "[email protected] [EVGRAY]" <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Hi James,
>
> I take the slow release niacin... cool B50... no flush
>
> Ron
>
>
>
>
> 
>

A 10,000 lb thrust rocket on the LEM not displacing the moons dirt, doesn't matter if a vacuum as physical laws still apply of an equal and opposite force.  Should have dug a hole and shot sand everywhere, very silly. 

 Going to the moon and back on one 3 stage hydrazine rocket in the 60's about as slim a chance as Karen Carpenter.
 

 The LEM a never tried vessel making a perfect launch from moons surface and hookup to the orbiting capsule first time out.  Talk about a horse cock reality mind fuck.
 

 So many holes in the silly rocket to moon story there is no green cheese left.

OK GEORGE WHAT YOU SAY COUNTS A LOT BECAUSE I'M STILL ALIVE SO I MUST HAVE AT LEAST 5FT LEFT!!!!
I  EAT alot of raw vegetables and I organic garden&eat out of my garden year round so IT'S ALL GOOD .THANKS FOR THE INFO 

    On Saturday, June 2, 2018 3:35 PM, "James Glinski [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
 

     intravenously is a good way but you have to get plant derived minerals and liquid vitamins .get the mix right and it's good .On Jun 2, 2018 4:22 PM, "george gray [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:

      Werner,
Sorry to hear about your health problem mate.Because our small intestine is what absorbs most of the nutrients from our food, then if you lost the entire small intestine you would have to be fed intravenously.Have you lost all of your small intestine?  Your small intestine is 20 feet long Werner, and most surgeries that remove part of the intestines would try to keep as much of the small intestine as possible. If you retained about 5 feet of it you should be able to absorb enough nutrients to survive.I've not been confronted by anyone with this problem mate, so I haven't gone into it.
The easiest nutrients to absorb are raw fruit and fruit juices.

George




   On Sunday, 3 June 2018, 06:43:54 GMT+10, werner held [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:  
 
     HI GEORGE ,YOU talk of your studies  well in your studies have you ever heard of a way to absorb vitamins&minerals other 
than through the SMALL INTESTINE ??I was in a very BAD ACCIDENT 32yrs back in 1986 I was dead for 1/2 hr in a coma for 3mths my left leg was broke off except the skin holding it on!they put it back in place &let it heal!  Also my SMALL INTESTINE  WAS REMOVED!So it is near impossible for me to take in nutrients easily some are absorbed thru the stomach lining but?!SO YOU SEE MY NEED FOR AN ANSWER TO MY PROBLEM !!I am 64 yrs old & seeing problems arise!THANKS FOR ANY INPUT 

    On Saturday, June 2, 2018 1:21 PM, "george gray [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:
 

      Hi Ron, Werner and all,

Hi Mick
Could be mixture of top secret space vehicle shit like antigravity propulsion combined with massive photo fakery along with alien intrusions but stil got to moon and back a few times just not now they say.
Everything is faked everthing is fucked and who knows truth but easy to see what is not true
Kone

If they had the money they could probably build as big rockets today as the Saturn V rocket of the 1960's which is the biggest rocket type ever build.

With the same amount of money spent on researching Victor Schaubergers technology http://discaircraft.greyfalcon.us/Viktor%20Schauberger.htm a much cheaper vehicle could probably be built. N. Tesla's antigravity vehicle that could stay in one place in the air during a storm is another research area. Who did he sell that technology to?! Did he even prove the concept before he died?!

Regards
Ole


 

---In [email protected], <konehead@...> wrote :

 Hi Mick
 Could be mixture of top secret space vehicle shit like antigravity propulsion combined with massive photo fakery along with alien intrusions but stil got to moon and back a few times just not now they say.
 Everything is faked everthing is fucked and who knows truth but easy to see what is not true
 Kone

Warren,

Human kindness is the answer to solving all issues, kindness offered not
enacted.

Poverty can never be eradicated this is the way of nature, some thrive
while some fail to.  Free as a bird is a good metaphor, releasing
everyone from all control operations while offering the hand of learning
and opening of ones soul to ascendance.  We should not be in the stupid
media concocted reality trap most are as mind controlled automatons,
more concerned by what color of adornment a kardikunt is proffering
rather than ones personal ascension. 

If then there was a corporate contrived war how many would choose not to
participate?  When that answer is over 90% then we as a species have
graduated to the next level, until then there is little hope.

As each little person is encouraged and able to learn and grow as a
human being rather than as a resource there will still exist the
stubborn flotsam who refuse to become, many are simply trapped in the ID
of confusion by unchecked pride and a good dose of LSD might loosen the
shackles.

Healthcare is free, if one takes proper care of ones body machine from
the start there is no reason one cannot die with the same set of teeth. 
People have lost the ability to survive and depend on "authorities" who
spread dis-ease because the teachers like George have for the most part
disappeared or are suppressed.  The masters mix poisons into our
drinking water purposefully in the guise of good health.  Something as
simple and easy as the purity of clean water has been adulterated by
mandated good intentions along with the greed of chemical companies. 
The professionals one visits for "dental health" don't even know or
admit that tooth enamel is self re-mineralizing.  Rather than offering
the chemical equivalent of living tooth matter for repair they destroy
our teeth with alien conflicting constituents and power tools.

Everyone needs a hand up from time to time and it is the self fulfilling
duty of a human soul to offer this hand but not to force another.  Sadly
there are few human beings left, why is this?

If we can live as free as a bird without taxes on existence and
corporate limitations foisted upon one another and pass on glory not by
way of public policy contrived into statute but rather by the kindness
of humanities natural remittance, to have properly taught our young of
values of how to think create and become then we will have solved the
planet.

If on the other hand if we by Orwellian means dictate laws requiring all
to share this has the bad habit of creating eventual widespread
starvation on all test subjects.  Kindness can not be enacted and
attempts at doing so only adulterate and weaken the species.



On 6/3/2018 7:25 AM, Warren Keillor [email protected]
[EVGRAY] wrote:
>   ody machine
>
>
> Just imagine transistors, a component that NASA funded,
>
>  to possibly replace vacuum tubes.
> They seem to have caught on, as being something useful.
> How does one iradicate poverty?
> Good health is a fine start, wheather mental, or physical health.
> Free medicine, and health care is a good start. Dental issues should
> also be covered, too.
> If this sounds radical, what other way will solve the problem as quickly?
> Cheers Warren
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>
>     On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 9:04 AM, John Berry [email protected] [EVGRAY]
>     <[email protected]> wrote:
>      
>     NASA actually returns $17 for every $1 funded to it.
>
>
>     On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 9:36 PM, george gray
>     [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>     [EVGRAY] <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>     wrote:
>
>          
>         If they had used the money they wasted with NASA they could
>         got rid of world poverty.
>
>         George
>
>         On Sunday, 3 June 2018, 19:17:22 GMT+10,
>         [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>         [EVGRAY] <[email protected]
>         <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>
>          
>
>         If they had the money they could probably build as big rockets
>         today as the Saturn V rocket of the 1960's which is the
>         biggest rocket type ever build.
>
>         With the same amount of money spent on researching Victor
>         Schaubergers technology
>         <http://discaircraft.greyfalcon.us/Viktor%20Schauberger.htm> a
>         much cheaper vehicle could probably be built. N. Tesla's
>         antigravity vehicle that could stay in one place in the air
>         during a storm is another research area. Who did he sell that
>         technology to?! Did he even prove the concept before he died?!
>
>         Regards
>         Ole
>
>
>
>
>         ---In [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>,
>         <konehead@...> wrote :
>
>         Hi Mick
>         Could be mixture of top secret space vehicle shit like
>         antigravity propulsion combined with massive photo fakery
>         along with alien intrusions but stil got to moon and back a
>         few times just not now they say.
>         Everything is faked everthing is fucked and who knows truth
>         but easy to see what is not true
>         Kone
>
>
>

If they had used the money they wasted with NASA they could got rid of world poverty.
George

    On Sunday, 3 June 2018, 19:17:22 GMT+10, [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:  
 
     
If they had the money they could probably build as big rockets today as the Saturn V rocket of the 1960's which is the biggest rocket type ever build.

With the same amount of money spent on researching Victor Schaubergers technology a much cheaper vehicle could probably be built. N. Tesla's antigravity vehicle that could stay in one place in the air during a storm is another research area. Who did he sell that technology to?! Did he even prove the concept before he died?!

Regards
Ole





---In [email protected], <konehead@...> wrote :

Hi Mick
Could be mixture of top secret space vehicle shit like antigravity propulsion combined with massive photo fakery along with alien intrusions but stil got to moon and back a few times just not now they say.
Everything is faked everthing is fucked and who knows truth but easy to see what is not true
Kone

MickThere was oh so little chance of taking that module to the moon with three men in it, and getting them back to Earth alive, true.No union health, and safety, regulations would approve it now.It is just a crazy, far out notion even to attempt such a feat.The numbers are there.There is very little wiggle room for screw ups. All those guys absolutely knew the slim numbers involved, yet were completely gung ho on putting their individual lives on the line to try it.Brave! No matter what nation, or resources behind it. To actually focus enough of the collective resources to do such a nutso thing as landing people on the moon! How fucking crazy is that?That was a time when the closest the averge guy got to the sky was with the tail fins on his Dodge.Taking the physics right to very edge, and putting it on the line, believing those numbers, with precious little else, except some experiments...Has got to be as crazy as believing in some fantastic vision of after life, ruled by mythical supreme beings. What brazen conflicts to overcome!We are ruled by our own confused sense of individule reality, attempting to put it all together, both lies, and fact, like some mystery novel.It seems to be very fashionable now to believe in presidents.Ha,ha.Who could ever take one seriously?Being the"leader" has been changed from a responsibility figure, to a comedy act.
The simple fact is... most of us are lazy as shit. We don't have time to get involved in politics, or even planting a tree in the local park. We hire these guys.It becomes an exercise in, you just don't get what you Pay for.We have become creatures who just pay for things we want.You take X amount of money and pay someone to do things for you.It gets very tricky when it comes to making decisions where the white lines go on the highways, but someone does that for you. You rarely have to think about it.Somebody says you need a vacuum cleaner, you just nod your head and get one. You rarely make one yourself.Government has become much the same way, even though democracy(sorry to use that much abused name) was invented by activists who thought they would participate.As soon as someone else was in charge, the rest would wash their hands of it, and let him , or her, fill their boots.Now when we get some goof in power, we all bitch about it, as the lazy bastards that we are.To then create some fantasy that there are super beings out there in charge is nonsense in our heads. Even those 1 % ers are scared shitless the gig will be up at anytime because we haven't discovered their power is in our heads.We could have trust busting rules in a heartbeat if it occured to us all at once.They would have no more power over you than your cousin Larry.What we are and what we can do is largely in our heads, where ever we can find them, (when not in close proximity to someone's genitals)So men on the moon? Doing the math, it could be done. Man! What slim margins!How very, very, risky, with what they had to work with.Would you do it?Cheers Warren
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  On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 1:58 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
A 10,000 lb thrust rocket on the LEM not displacing the moons dirt, doesn't matter if a vacuum as physical laws still apply of an equal and opposite force.  Should have dug a hole and shot sand everywhere, very silly.

Going to the moon and back on one 3 stage hydrazine rocket in the 60's about as slim a chance as Karen Carpenter.
The LEM a never tried vessel making a perfect launch from moons surface and hookup to the orbiting capsule first time out.  Talk about a horse cock reality mind fuck.
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Just imagine transistors, a component that NASA funded, to possibly replace vacuum tubes.They seem to have caught on, as being something useful.How does one iradicate poverty?Good health is a fine start, wheather mental, or physical health.Free medicine, and health care is a good start. Dental issues should also be covered, too.If this sounds radical, what other way will solve the problem as quickly?Cheers Warren
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  On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 9:04 AM, John Berry [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       

NASA actually returns $17 for every $1 funded to it.

On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 9:36 PM, george gray [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:

     

 If they had used the money they wasted with NASA they could got rid of world poverty.
George

    On Sunday, 3 June 2018, 19:17:22 GMT+10, [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:  
 
     
If they had the money they could probably build as big rockets today as the Saturn V rocket of the 1960's which is the biggest rocket type ever build.

With the same amount of money spent on researching Victor Schaubergers technology a much cheaper vehicle could probably be built. N. Tesla's antigravity vehicle that could stay in one place in the air during a storm is another research area. Who did he sell that technology to?! Did he even prove the concept before he died?!

Regards
Ole





---In [email protected], <konehead@...> wrote :

Hi Mick
Could be mixture of top secret space vehicle shit like antigravity propulsion combined with massive photo fakery along with alien intrusions but stil got to moon and back a few times just not now they say.
Everything is faked everthing is fucked and who knows truth but easy to see what is not true
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Ron, you say there is evidence, but I ask, for you to tell me what evidence
there is and the best you come up with is a lack of blasting away of sand...

Firstly, this assumed that there is a ton of loose sand where they landed,
of which there is no evidence.

But, then you ignore that this is taking lace in a vacuum with moon gravity!

So the Vacuum means the rocket propellant does not stay together, but is
pulled apart by gravity rapidly.
Then there is clearly evidence say is being moved...
Then there is the fact that the rockets only had to be powerful enough for
the moons puny gravity.

So Ron, do the following, take the largest vacuum chamber in thee world,
and go run a test where a rocket fires it's exhaust at some sand, let's see
how sand is disturbed by turbulent floid dynamics in an environment with
zero ambient air pressure!

When a Rocket thrusts, or you blow air out of your mouth, there is an
effect of amplification, where a small amount of moving air turns into a
very large volume of air.
But in a vacuum, there is no air to multiply with (it is the effect that
makes Dyson fans work BTW), but the rocket exhaust not only doesn't get to
stir up air, it also faces the vacuum of space which makes the exhaust too
insubstantial to do much.



On Sat, Jun 2, 2018 at 3:20 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY] <
[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
>  Read Richard Feynman's reseach on the Columbia he was in charge of
> finding out what went wrong.
> Like it or not we humans are all part of these events, and historical
> acheivements, in even the smallest ways. Forget the politics,
>
> Warren,
>
> What you and the other die hards are missing is the magnificents of the
> HOAX!
>
> Take Columbia for example...
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxqhU6nEy6c
>
> Man may have walked on the moon but ALL the video was shot here on earth
> in a studio, under the big crane, or in a water tank. It is not rocket
> science to figure this out!
>
> Where is the blast crater under the lander???? Why are the landing pads so
> clean???? the list is endless. Why are there no pictures from the moon?
>
> Ron
>
> 
>