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George shame on you for going off into fantasy land.Where were you when the Appolo astranauts walked on the moon. What were you doing?I was standing with fifty or hundred people who had walked across mountains for three days to watch this event on a flickering black, and white, TV, in the market, in Oaxaca, Mexico. As the boys walked on the surface of the Moon, people were  standing there, weeping. Weeping, not for Nasa, not for the USA , but for the entire planet Earth, and these naked monkeys, have just touched another orbiting body, and we all celebrate the acheivement.Later, a few nights later, in Monte Alban, I lay on my back in the most clear atmosphere on this planet, and watched as the space craft, carrying the astronauts, re-entered, in a spectacle so stunning , that it could be seen with the naked eye.I have had friends who worked on getting the folks out of the world, and on to the moon.The Avro Arrow team were scooped up, and taken to work in United States, on the lunar mission.Who wouldn't?Check the people. All most half were Canadians from the Arrow team.Somebody is just making shit up, reallyCheers Warren

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good work George.  There are just so many anomalies that people, who wear rose coloured glasses, pretend not to see... it is pathetic.
 

 The big crane where the "landings" were filmed
 

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Are you so blind you really think that's a fly?

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Somebody is just making shit up, really
 

 Hey you got that part right!!!
 

 Ron

That's funny George true or not .do you feel ashamed enough now George ?
You might need a little more smacking down ? Your damaging the norm .
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Moon pictures by Russia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nlFpal3Tpg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nlFpal3Tpg (2:16).
Moon pictures by China: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMD75IssBYM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMD75IssBYM (3:02).

'The truth behind the moon landings:' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9FtQCtlyJU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9FtQCtlyJU (47:59). This video is about the conspirators versus a team testing their conspiracy theories.

The LASER reflectors on the Moon (https://wiki2.org/en/Lunar_Laser_Ranging_experiment https://wiki2.org/en/Lunar_Laser_Ranging_experiment) are still working and being used hundreds of times each year. They were put there during the Apollo missions.

Regards
Ole
 

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 That's funny George true or not .do you feel ashamed enough now George ? You might need a little more smacking down ? Your damaging the norm .
 On May 30, 2018 10:09 AM, "iron1of1@... mailto:iron1of1@... [EVGRAY]" <[email protected] mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
   Somebody is just making shit up, really

 

 Hey you got that part right!!!
 

 Ron

There is a laser reflector in the moon you can shoot a laser  at it and see it come back some seconds later ..

https://www.google.com/search?q=laser+moon+bounce+experiment+&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b https://www.google.com/search?q=laser+moon+bounce+experiment+&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b

i did the fucking experiment with a 100w laser so dont push me fake moon landing shit as i pinpointed the dammed moon buggy ! and its up there !

along the goddamed laser cube reflectors

Warren,
Speaking about fantasy-land, well, most of the people of the world have been in fantasy-land about the moon landing since 1969, but I'm not one of them.

The people trying to clean up radioactive material at Chernobyl asked NASA to provide them with protective clothing to protect the workers from radiation.  They wanted clothing such as that worn by those who went to the moon.  They were told no such protective clothing existed.
Have you examined what the co-called moon lander was made of?  Some curtain rods, duck tape and aluminium foil etc., all to withstand temperatures up to 2000C.

NASA has admitted that we never went to the moon and a lot of the film footage of the moon landing was shot in a studio in England.
Research the fake moon landings.
George

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    On Wednesday, 30 May 2018, 13:30:39 GMT+10, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:  
 
     
George shame on you for going off into fantasy land.
Where were you when the Appolo astranauts walked on the moon. What were you doing?I was standing with fifty or hundred people who had walked across mountains for three days to watch this event on a flickering black, and white, TV, in the market, in Oaxaca, Mexico. As the boys walked on the surface of the Moon, people were  standing there, weeping. Weeping, not for Nasa, not for the USA , but for the entire planet Earth, and these naked monkeys, have just touched another orbiting body, and we all celebrate the acheivement.Later, a few nights later, in Monte Alban, I lay on my back in the most clear atmosphere on this planet, and watched as the space craft, carrying the astronauts, re-entered, in a spectacle so stunning , that it could be seen with the naked eye.I have had friends who worked on getting the folks out of the world, and on to the moon.The Avro Arrow team were scooped up, and taken to work in United States, on the lunar mission.Who wouldn't?Check the people. All most half were Canadians from the Arrow team.Somebody is just making shit up, reallyCheers Warren

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  On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 5:11 PM, george gray [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       






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Thanks Ron,
Yes, I had seen that photo some time back.  I suppose the fake moon landings will be off limits like the flat earth soon.  I think I've discovered one government paid "troll" here on this site.  He only pipes up when I try to expose shit from the government, must be his job. Maybe he's a CIA troll and is an expert on insects.

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good work George.  There are just so many anomalies that people, who wear rose coloured glasses, pretend not to see... it is pathetic.
The big crane where the "landings" were filmed
http://i1.wp.com/moralmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/NASAApolloCrane00af68c0.jpg?resize=450%2C355 
Ron

James,
It's no wonder the .0001% are ruling over the 99.9999%.  It would be funny if it wasn't true.  They are like the walking, sleeping, dead, and even the sound of a hammer in a vacuum, driving a metal pole into the so-called moon's surface doesn't wake them up.
George

    On Thursday, 31 May 2018, 05:53:41 GMT+10, James Glinski [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:  
 
     


That's funny George true or not .do you feel ashamed enough now George ? You might need a little more smacking down ? Your damaging the norm .
On May 30, 2018 10:09 AM, "[email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:

     
Somebody is just making shit up, really


Hey you got that part right!!!
Ron

Be serious for a minute Hector, That junk never got there on a rocket.
 

 http://www.starshipearththebigpicture.com/2012/10/22/gary-mckinnon-and-the-solar-warden-secret-space-program/ http://www.starshipearththebigpicture.com/2012/10/22/gary-mckinnon-and-the-solar-warden-secret-space-program/

 

 Ron

Be serious for a minute Hector, That junk never got there on a rocket.
 

 http://www.starshipearththebigpicture.com/2012/10/22/gary-mckinnon-and-the-solar-warden-secret-space-program/ http://www.starshipearththebigpicture.com/2012/10/22/gary-mckinnon-and-the-solar-warden-secret-space-program/

 

 Nasa lies
 

 Ron

GeorgeI made a full sized replica of the first and second stages of the lunar lander module. I tried to be as accurate to the original, as possible, working from drawings and, of all things, a plastic model.
It was not missile science to build, nust damn good aircraft engineering, with a little formula 1 racing car, thrown in for good measure.The space frame legs and mounts, very well engineered for the landing gear stage, with hydraulic fancy shock absorbers, not that unlike helicopters or aircraft, or as I mentioned racing car space frame construction, which I am more familiar with.How would you design, and build such a device? Not really that much different, I am sure, even if it had to land on the moon, given the technology available in the day, and the skills and abilities of a workshop crew, skilled in the art, to build it.The crew module mounted on top, that jetisoned the legs module, to save weight/ fuel, left it on the moon after using it as a launch pad for takeoff, was of monocoque construction sheet metal titanium/ aluminium skinned affair, that unibodied car design picked up on, some years later.When they were saying that the research and development that went into the space program helped industry on the ground, that proved to be no lie, as anybody into home built aircraft, or racing cars, can testify to. Even achitects and designers adopted much of the engineering used in the space program, for more mundane projects on the ground.Bear in mind, the people who worked on the space programs didn't all end their careers when the gig was over, to simply get work watering a golf course.( not to diminish those who do that) but they went on to work in other projects, bringing with them, what they learned in their last job, as we all do, no matter what it is.My lunar lander all came apart and was built pretty much as the original, as that was also the most ecconomical and easy way to build it.I didn't use titanium, but did use steel and aluminium. The base leg section was light weight thin walled steel tubing, welded in exactly the same places and manner as the original, even to the flexing of the suspension legs.Doing something like that gives a guy a trip through the design engineers heads who originally though this sucker up.They too were given a job to do, and went about it in a decent workman manner.I didn't use gold foil. I managed to get gold annodized vacuum deposited mylar to fake the gold foil. I cheated on thruster motors using Javex bottles cut and painted, and stubby dry wall screws as shadow catching rivets.It was used in a feature film about an artist who trained a flock of Canadian geese to fly South, called "Father Goose"And had powered hang gliders etcA family film, I was proud to be part of.Cheers Warren
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 Warren,
Speaking about fantasy-land, well, most of the people of the world have been in fantasy-land about the moon landing since 1969, but I'm not one of them.

The people trying to clean up radioactive material at Chernobyl asked NASA to provide them with protective clothing to protect the workers from radiation.  They wanted clothing such as that worn by those who went to the moon.  They were told no such protective clothing existed.
Have you examined what the co-called moon lander was made of?  Some curtain rods, duck tape and aluminium foil etc., all to withstand temperatures up to 2000C.

NASA has admitted that we never went to the moon and a lot of the film footage of the moon landing was shot in a studio in England.
Research the fake moon landings.
George

NASA ADMITS WE NEVER WENT TO THE MOON

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    On Wednesday, 30 May 2018, 13:30:39 GMT+10, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:  
 
     
George shame on you for going off into fantasy land.
Where were you when the Appolo astranauts walked on the moon. What were you doing?I was standing with fifty or hundred people who had walked across mountains for three days to watch this event on a flickering black, and white, TV, in the market, in Oaxaca, Mexico. As the boys walked on the surface of the Moon, people were  standing there, weeping. Weeping, not for Nasa, not for the USA , but for the entire planet Earth, and these naked monkeys, have just touched another orbiting body, and we all celebrate the acheivement.Later, a few nights later, in Monte Alban, I lay on my back in the most clear atmosphere on this planet, and watched as the space craft, carrying the astronauts, re-entered, in a spectacle so stunning , that it could be seen with the naked eye.I have had friends who worked on getting the folks out of the world, and on to the moon.The Avro Arrow team were scooped up, and taken to work in United States, on the lunar mission.Who wouldn't?Check the people. All most half were Canadians from the Arrow team.Somebody is just making shit up, reallyCheers Warren

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RonThey should have let you play with rockets more when you were a kid.They actually are not that tricky, at all, in spite of the hype.Just a big stove pipe, thats all.Watch what goop you put on the pressure seals though, that can really bugger you up, if you are insde something that you are using them as thrusters for, and it is a poor joint design. Read Richard Feynman's reseach on the Columbia he was in charge of finding out what went wrong.Like it or not we humans are all part of these events, and historical acheivements, in even the smallest ways. Forget the politics, catch the drift of the engineering.Cheers Warren
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  On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 11:19 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       


Be serious for a minute Hector, That junk never got there on a rocket.
http://www.starshipearththebigpicture.com/2012/10/22/gary-mckinnon-and-the-solar-warden-secret-space-program/

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George give credit were credits due .NASA is doing a lot now days with
curtain rods, duck tape and aluminium foil well be on Mars soon it may take
more curtain rods, duck tape and aluminium foil than we have today though.
We need a break through like Velcro to but it over .coming soon a tour of
the planets .mabe a little Shadow dancing to. was duck tape a technological
innovation from the space program ? No I think it was curtain rods 😁☺
On May 31, 2018 11:29 AM, "Warren Keillor [email protected]
[EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:

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> Ron
> They should have let you play with rockets more when you were a kid.
> They actually are not that tricky, at all, in spite of the hype.
> Just a big stove pipe, thats all.
> Watch what goop you put on the pressure seals though, that can really
> bugger you up, if you are insde something that you are using them as
> thrusters for, and it is a poor joint design. Read Richard Feynman's
> reseach on the Columbia he was in charge of finding out what went wrong.
> Like it or not we humans are all part of these events, and historical
> acheivements, in even the smallest ways. Forget the politics, catch the
> drift of the engineering.
> Cheers Warren
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>
> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 11:19 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]
> <[email protected]> wrote:
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> Be serious for a minute Hector, That junk never got there on a rocket.
>
> http://www.starshipearththebigpicture.com/2012/10/22/gary-mckinnon-
> and-the-solar-warden-secret-space-program/
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> Ron
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>

Sounds  like a good and interesting project Warren.George

    On Friday, 1 June 2018, 02:17:41 GMT+10, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:  
 
     
George
I made a full sized replica of the first and second stages of the lunar lander module. I tried to be as accurate to the original, as possible, working from drawings and, of all things, a plastic model.
It was not missile science to build, nust damn good aircraft engineering, with a little formula 1 racing car, thrown in for good measure.The space frame legs and mounts, very well engineered for the landing gear stage, with hydraulic fancy shock absorbers, not that unlike helicopters or aircraft, or as I mentioned racing car space frame construction, which I am more familiar with.How would you design, and build such a device? Not really that much different, I am sure, even if it had to land on the moon, given the technology available in the day, and the skills and abilities of a workshop crew, skilled in the art, to build it.The crew module mounted on top, that jetisoned the legs module, to save weight/ fuel, left it on the moon after using it as a launch pad for takeoff, was of monocoque construction sheet metal titanium/ aluminium skinned affair, that unibodied car design picked up on, some years later.When they were saying that the research and development that went into the space program helped industry on the ground, that proved to be no lie, as anybody into home built aircraft, or racing cars, can testify to. Even achitects and designers adopted much of the engineering used in the space program, for more mundane projects on the ground.Bear in mind, the people who worked on the space programs didn't all end their careers when the gig was over, to simply get work watering a golf course.( not to diminish those who do that) but they went on to work in other projects, bringing with them, what they learned in their last job, as we all do, no matter what it is.My lunar lander all came apart and was built pretty much as the original, as that was also the most ecconomical and easy way to build it.I didn't use titanium, but did use steel and aluminium. The base leg section was light weight thin walled steel tubing, welded in exactly the same places and manner as the original, even to the flexing of the suspension legs.Doing something like that gives a guy a trip through the design engineers heads who originally though this sucker up.They too were given a job to do, and went about it in a decent workman manner.I didn't use gold foil. I managed to get gold annodized vacuum deposited mylar to fake the gold foil. I cheated on thruster motors using Javex bottles cut and painted, and stubby dry wall screws as shadow catching rivets.It was used in a feature film about an artist who trained a flock of Canadian geese to fly South, called "Father Goose"And had powered hang gliders etcA family film, I was proud to be part of.Cheers Warren
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  On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 4:42 AM, george gray [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       

 Warren,
Speaking about fantasy-land, well, most of the people of the world have been in fantasy-land about the moon landing since 1969, but I'm not one of them.

The people trying to clean up radioactive material at Chernobyl asked NASA to provide them with protective clothing to protect the workers from radiation.  They wanted clothing such as that worn by those who went to the moon.  They were told no such protective clothing existed.
Have you examined what the co-called moon lander was made of?  Some curtain rods, duck tape and aluminium foil etc., all to withstand temperatures up to 2000C.

NASA has admitted that we never went to the moon and a lot of the film footage of the moon landing was shot in a studio in England.
Research the fake moon landings.
George

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    On Wednesday, 30 May 2018, 13:30:39 GMT+10, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:  
 
     
George shame on you for going off into fantasy land.
Where were you when the Appolo astranauts walked on the moon. What were you doing?I was standing with fifty or hundred people who had walked across mountains for three days to watch this event on a flickering black, and white, TV, in the market, in Oaxaca, Mexico. As the boys walked on the surface of the Moon, people were  standing there, weeping. Weeping, not for Nasa, not for the USA , but for the entire planet Earth, and these naked monkeys, have just touched another orbiting body, and we all celebrate the acheivement.Later, a few nights later, in Monte Alban, I lay on my back in the most clear atmosphere on this planet, and watched as the space craft, carrying the astronauts, re-entered, in a spectacle so stunning , that it could be seen with the naked eye.I have had friends who worked on getting the folks out of the world, and on to the moon.The Avro Arrow team were scooped up, and taken to work in United States, on the lunar mission.Who wouldn't?Check the people. All most half were Canadians from the Arrow team.Somebody is just making shit up, reallyCheers Warren

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Ha ha James, yes I had a good laugh about that mate, and looking forward to the shadow dancing with the right music.
George

    On Friday, 1 June 2018, 02:59:08 GMT+10, James Glinski [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:  
 
     


George give credit were credits due .NASA is doing a lot now days with curtain rods, duck tape and aluminium foil well be on Mars soon it may take more curtain rods, duck tape and aluminium foil than we have today though. We need a break through like Velcro to but it over .coming soon a tour of the planets .mabe a little Shadow dancing to. was duck tape a technological innovation from the space program ? No I think it was curtain rods 😁☺
On May 31, 2018 11:29 AM, "Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> wrote:

     

Ron
They should have let you play with rockets more when you were a kid.They actually are not that tricky, at all, in spite of the hype.Just a big stove pipe, thats all.Watch what goop you put on the pressure seals though, that can really bugger you up, if you are insde something that you are using them as thrusters for, and it is a poor joint design. Read Richard Feynman's reseach on the Columbia he was in charge of finding out what went wrong.Like it or not we humans are all part of these events, and historical acheivements, in even the smallest ways. Forget the politics, catch the drift of the engineering.Cheers Warren
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  On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 11:19 AM, [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       


Be serious for a minute Hector, That junk never got there on a rocket.
http://www. starshipearththebigpicture. com/2012/10/22/gary-mckinnon- and-the-solar-warden-secret- space-program/

Ron

GeorgeOne never knows what is out there to be done. How about a roller skating hippopotomus mascot costume?It was all grist for the mill.All kinds of ideas float around looking to be reality.It is only a matter of being young and foolish, saying " I can do that"! Then throwing yourself, ego, creativity, and commitment, the whole bag, to convert concept, into reality, for a client.Phone rings......." can you make IQ tests for raccoons?" Sure!....Phone rings "how much for a room of the future?.... Answer " how big of a room, and how far into the future?"You start to worry when they want delivery the day before yesterday.It is a very simple negociation.You quote what it will cost, and how much time to deliver, 50% down to begin, and the balance on delivery.While it is true, many of the objects are make believe, they still have to perform a function as visible reality.Sometimes the simplest solution is to make it real and practical.How do you retire?You take on a really very hard job that nobody pays you for, and you keep doing it until you get it working.Welcome to the EVergray group!Cheers Watren
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  On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 3:34 AM, george gray [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       

 Sounds  like a good and interesting project Warren.George

    On Friday, 1 June 2018, 02:17:41 GMT+10, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:  
 
     
George
I made a full sized replica of the first and second stages of the lunar lander module. I tried to be as accurate to the original, as possible, working from drawings and, of all things, a plastic model.
It was not missile science to build, nust damn good aircraft engineering, with a little formula 1 racing car, thrown in for good measure.The space frame legs and mounts, very well engineered for the landing gear stage, with hydraulic fancy shock absorbers, not that unlike helicopters or aircraft, or as I mentioned racing car space frame construction, which I am more familiar with.How would you design, and build such a device? Not really that much different, I am sure, even if it had to land on the moon, given the technology available in the day, and the skills and abilities of a workshop crew, skilled in the art, to build it.The crew module mounted on top, that jetisoned the legs module, to save weight/ fuel, left it on the moon after using it as a launch pad for takeoff, was of monocoque construction sheet metal titanium/ aluminium skinned affair, that unibodied car design picked up on, some years later.When they were saying that the research and development that went into the space program helped industry on the ground, that proved to be no lie, as anybody into home built aircraft, or racing cars, can testify to. Even achitects and designers adopted much of the engineering used in the space program, for more mundane projects on the ground.Bear in mind, the people who worked on the space programs didn't all end their careers when the gig was over, to simply get work watering a golf course.( not to diminish those who do that) but they went on to work in other projects, bringing with them, what they learned in their last job, as we all do, no matter what it is.My lunar lander all came apart and was built pretty much as the original, as that was also the most ecconomical and easy way to build it.I didn't use titanium, but did use steel and aluminium. The base leg section was light weight thin walled steel tubing, welded in exactly the same places and manner as the original, even to the flexing of the suspension legs.Doing something like that gives a guy a trip through the design engineers heads who originally though this sucker up.They too were given a job to do, and went about it in a decent workman manner.I didn't use gold foil. I managed to get gold annodized vacuum deposited mylar to fake the gold foil. I cheated on thruster motors using Javex bottles cut and painted, and stubby dry wall screws as shadow catching rivets.It was used in a feature film about an artist who trained a flock of Canadian geese to fly South, called "Father Goose"And had powered hang gliders etcA family film, I was proud to be part of.Cheers Warren
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  On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 4:42 AM, george gray [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       

 Warren,
Speaking about fantasy-land, well, most of the people of the world have been in fantasy-land about the moon landing since 1969, but I'm not one of them.

The people trying to clean up radioactive material at Chernobyl asked NASA to provide them with protective clothing to protect the workers from radiation.  They wanted clothing such as that worn by those who went to the moon.  They were told no such protective clothing existed.
Have you examined what the co-called moon lander was made of?  Some curtain rods, duck tape and aluminium foil etc., all to withstand temperatures up to 2000C.

NASA has admitted that we never went to the moon and a lot of the film footage of the moon landing was shot in a studio in England.
Research the fake moon landings.
George

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    On Wednesday, 30 May 2018, 13:30:39 GMT+10, Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:  
 
     
George shame on you for going off into fantasy land.
Where were you when the Appolo astranauts walked on the moon. What were you doing?I was standing with fifty or hundred people who had walked across mountains for three days to watch this event on a flickering black, and white, TV, in the market, in Oaxaca, Mexico. As the boys walked on the surface of the Moon, people were  standing there, weeping. Weeping, not for Nasa, not for the USA , but for the entire planet Earth, and these naked monkeys, have just touched another orbiting body, and we all celebrate the acheivement.Later, a few nights later, in Monte Alban, I lay on my back in the most clear atmosphere on this planet, and watched as the space craft, carrying the astronauts, re-entered, in a spectacle so stunning , that it could be seen with the naked eye.I have had friends who worked on getting the folks out of the world, and on to the moon.The Avro Arrow team were scooped up, and taken to work in United States, on the lunar mission.Who wouldn't?Check the people. All most half were Canadians from the Arrow team.Somebody is just making shit up, reallyCheers Warren

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Read Richard Feynman's reseach on the Columbia he was in charge of finding out what went wrong.
 Like it or not we humans are all part of these events, and historical acheivements, in even the smallest ways. Forget the politics,
 

 Warren,
 

 What you and the other die hards are missing is the magnificents of the HOAX!
 

 Take Columbia for example...
 

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxqhU6nEy6c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxqhU6nEy6c

 

 Man may have walked on the moon but ALL the video was shot here on earth in a studio, under the big crane, or in a water tank. It is not rocket science to figure this out!
 

 Where is the blast crater under the lander???? Why are the landing pads so clean???? the list is endless. Why are there no pictures from the moon?
 

 Ron