Where did the salt go?

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[1/12] Where did the salt go?

2019-07-31T04:08:19+00:00 · unknown <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
The recent upload is a report where Sea Water with 31,620 ppm of total dissolved solids (sea salt) was reduced to 306 ppm after being pumped through the Neutral Centre Field of a Magnetic In Line Joe Cell. 

 This Zero Point Radiant Energy device alters "Matter" or total dissolved solids in a way that the Director of Earth Resources for the Victorian Gov't Mr Charlie Spiers, prompted him to remark "I just cant get my mind around where the salt went" when he came back a second time in 2015 to see it done again.
 As stated earlier, anything we do with Ring Magnets can be done with a 12V DC car battery in a "Tube Joe Cell". but the purity was 'only', 835ppm. as shown in Sample 3.

 

 To do this requires a through knowledge on the Plasma States of Matter. 

 

 This is why I question ANYONE"S understanding of the word 'plasma'. Even Betsy's take on the matter.

 

 Privately I sent another more through report to Norm, one that isnt for 'public' consumption.

 

 This is Cold electricity in action. When one learns how to make Radiant Energy or cold electricity, the quest then becomes..... What to do with it? and What else can it do?  Well it makes counter rotating OU kinda obsolete if one can create a Fisher Paykel motor as a Zero Point Neutral Centre Radiant Energy device now wouldn't it?:

 

 First one needs to know what Plasma is... what Radiant Energy is (and it aint in the sound of a spark) what cold Fusion is, what Cold electricity is and how MATTER or the Atomic Structure can ALLOW this change to make dissolved salt solids DISAPPEAR. (for the 1000th time we have done it) Charlie saw Carbon disappear and what this means people, is you can use one of these Carbon Disappearing Radiant Energy Devices and send the Carbon Credits Association a Bill of removing Carbon. Ending the insanity of Global warming nonsense. (amongst other obsolete particle and plasma theories) The car Muffler version proves it with just Smell.

 

 Before investors bought into flywheel technology, they needed to see a working model didnt they?

 Same with JoeCells, You need to see what they do as dozens of working prototypes exist for your viewing pleasure. After googling skepticism for the counter rotating flywheels and reading the hippocracy of their disinterest.... I couldnt help but be reminded that same mindset is evident here where one would think the most open of minds would be in abundance.

 

 With the Opposite and Equal effect, or just reversing the electrodes on the cell or reversing the ring magnets on the Neutral Cente washer one can turn fresh water into oil..... Just like the Earth's Magnetic Fields do.
 

 Given no one understands the Liquid State of Water, nor the Lump of Electricity known as a magnet,  or how gases can be Polarized to the make the Frequencies that scientists call O and H....  I truly doubt anyone here understands Plasma the (so called) Fourth state if you havent mastered the process of turning solids into water to even understand the first, second and third.

 

 Wouldnt this be more like a duplication of Primary Water as made by the Earth's Fields? Or will some here stick to Fish Bowl Tech?

[2/12] Re: [EVGRAY] Where did the salt go?

2019-07-31T15:35:20+00:00 · james glinski <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <CA+uJ=nerWVK=QEoDgzGoN8igtj=mJfP+7KacHe-QMzwO3jp-zw@mail.gmail.com>
How much of this have you duplicated ? A ppm meter is cheap to check
results .done the work yet ? Do you have drawings or other information for
replication .besides stories ?.

On Tuesday, July 30, 2019, [email protected] [EVGRAY] <
[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> The recent upload is a report where Sea Water with 31,620 ppm of total
> dissolved solids (sea salt) was reduced to 306 ppm after being pumped
> through the Neutral Centre Field of a Magnetic In Line Joe Cell.
> This Zero Point Radiant Energy device alters "Matter" or total dissolved
> solids in a way that the Director of Earth Resources for the Victorian
> Gov't Mr Charlie Spiers, prompted him to remark "I just cant get my mind
> around where the salt went" when he came back a second time in 2015 to see
> it done again.
> As stated earlier, anything we do with Ring Magnets can be done with a 12V
> DC car battery in a "Tube Joe Cell". but the purity was 'only', 835ppm. as
> shown in Sample 3.
>
> To do this requires a through knowledge on the Plasma States of Matter.
>
> This is why I question ANYONE"S understanding of the word 'plasma'. Even
> Betsy's take on the matter.
>
> Privately I sent another more through report to Norm, one that isnt for
> 'public' consumption.
>
> This is Cold electricity in action. When one learns how to make Radiant
> Energy or cold electricity, the quest then becomes..... What to do with it?
> and What else can it do?  Well it makes counter rotating OU kinda obsolete
> if one can create a Fisher Paykel motor as a Zero Point Neutral Centre
> Radiant Energy device now wouldn't it?:
>
> First one needs to know what Plasma is... what Radiant Energy is (and it
> aint in the sound of a spark) what cold Fusion is, what Cold electricity is
> and how MATTER or the Atomic Structure can ALLOW this change to make
> dissolved salt solids DISAPPEAR. (for the 1000th time we have done it)
> Charlie saw Carbon disappear and what this means people, is you can use one
> of these Carbon Disappearing Radiant Energy Devices and send the Carbon
> Credits Association a Bill of removing Carbon. Ending the insanity of
> Global warming nonsense. (amongst other obsolete particle and plasma
> theories) The car Muffler version proves it with just Smell.
>
> Before investors bought into flywheel technology, they needed to see a
> working model didnt they?
> Same with JoeCells, You need to see what they do as dozens of working
> prototypes exist for your viewing pleasure. After googling skepticism for
> the counter rotating flywheels and reading the hippocracy of their
> disinterest.... I couldnt help but be reminded that same mindset is evident
> here where one would think the most open of minds would be in abundance.
>
> With the Opposite and Equal effect, or just reversing the electrodes on
> the cell or reversing the ring magnets on the Neutral Cente washer one can
> turn fresh water into oil..... Just like the Earth's Magnetic Fields do.
>
> Given no one understands the Liquid State of Water, nor the Lump of
> Electricity known as a magnet,  or how gases can be Polarized to the make
> the Frequencies that scientists call O and H....  I truly doubt anyone here
> understands Plasma the (so called) Fourth state if you havent mastered the
> process of turning solids into water to even understand the first, second
> and third.
>
> Wouldnt this be more like a duplication of Primary Water as made by the
> Earth's Fields? Or will some here stick to Fish Bowl Tech?
>
>
>
> 
>

[3/12] Re: Where did the salt go?

2019-07-31T15:37:28+00:00 · Douglas Konzen <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
well why didn't the Aussie director of earth resources  DO SOMETHING about it??
 Its been 3 years I don't see or hear of any desalination plants with joe cells in them.
 Why not? Whats the excuse?? 
 Maybe Joe needs some other "people friendly" representatives
 besides just you bitching complaining INSULTING in futile and feeble effort to change peoples minds 
 about nobody including you do not fully understand.

[4/12] Re: [EVGRAY] Where did the salt go?

2019-07-31T23:45:59-07:00 · unknown <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Did you read the new file uploaded?  
Did you read where i over exagerated from prob 200 times to a 1000 times its been replicated for 100’s of people?
Did you read thatNorm has a report too?
What we have is a plan to bypass the elites Hector says stands in our way.  It includes plans thateven you could use. This has been written in posts. No one else on the planet can give you Radiant over unity. No one knows how to create zero point in a simple samsung motor.  Would you buy anything you dont see first? Have i tried to sell you anything other than ideas of free enerfy? 
We make it free. No one else does.  
I hate finger typing on an iphone sitting in NZ but at least thefood is good in the business class lounge.

[5/12] Re: Where did the salt go?

2019-08-01T01:06:30+00:00 · triadutrad <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
read the book confessions of an economic hit man ....There you will find the answers and the Elites are already selling looped generators to their other elite clients and the catch is  minimal 60KWH power usage leased for 20 years ....they dont sell units ....

wile the poor eat shit ! keep bathing in the bullshit and never unite toward a common goal , only if its a bullshit like ORBO at 400 euro a piece rippoff! people run to throw their money away ! 

say hi to David Pozek ! he is on that and quad engineering to name a few ! they got a billion dollar funding to fuck the small guy so all of you here are fucked , don;t tell me i did not warned you all! 

the fuckers distracting all of you here with bullshit are paid by this motherfuckers ! 

so all of you are clusterfucked beyond saving ....

amen !  

 
 

---In [email protected], <konehead@...> wrote :

 well why didn't the Aussie director of earth resources  DO SOMETHING about it??
 Its been 3 years I don't see or hear of any desalination plants with joe cells in them.
 Why not? Whats the excuse??
 Maybe Joe needs some other "people friendly" representatives
 besides just you bitching complaining INSULTING in futile and feeble effort to change peoples minds
 about nobody including you do not fully understand.

[6/12] Re: Where did the salt go?

2019-08-01T06:55:17+00:00 · unknown <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Its agood story. Will write itin a few days.  Its a typical example of trying to find the RIGHT people to entrust with this game changing tech. 
The right people know its what the planet needs within minutes of seeing it work. 99.97% then try to steal it. The head R&D guy from Santos just grabbed the glass and drank the water and said he seen enough and will wait for the report. The uni profs wouldnt write it that TAR could be drank as fresh by the guy. So no report to table to the Board. 
Only a team of free thinkers as a group can beat the system. This tech is cheap and easy. You just need to see it first or you cant be part of the team unless you fullfill other criteria which Ron and Lorne kinda know.

[7/12] Re: Where did the salt go?

2019-08-01T10:05:51+00:00 · unknown <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
What is criteria to "entrust" people?  
 $1000 minimum payment for some teaser information to be entrusted?
 Million dollars for Joe to buy a farm in order to have all the information that cannot be replicated or understood by anyone but Joe Cell himself?

[8/12] Re: [EVGRAY] Where did the salt go?

2019-08-01T10:12:14+00:00 · unknown <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
So now you sell ":ideas"  that's a good one!.....
 or do you give ideas away for free? 
 What ideas cost minimum 1000 dollars, what ideas require a farm for Joe Cell?
 Where are these prototypes of whatever you call radiant energy?
 What is the watts in vs out of your F and P motor?
 Or is measuring watts too primitive for you and disrupts your claims of overunity?

[9/12] Re: Where did the salt go?

2019-08-01T11:22:40+00:00 · triadutrad <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
And i try to set up a public R&D entity to ensure people learn this stuff and i am the bad guy seeking recognition ...

  they repeat the same fucking shit hundred times with a gimmick circus show and show nothing they get millions !  I disclose and its get patented & owned by this billion dollar holding motherfuckers ! wile they spend millions screwing whoever replicates ... divorces , bank theft , sabotage , poisoning and even murder ... not to name the black magic and demons awaiting
 to attack who ever gets into this turf  (white tantra required ) 
I know there are lurkers here that can spend in pussy in one night  what i have not spend in motors or R&D all my life with money to spare and are the first ones awaiting to see what they can patent & steal .... and  are the ones who fill the forum with useless fucking shit !





take a dive ! and breath deeepppp! 

nothing came out of Tileys, Perendev , ORBO , and money asking to see shit !  as this are ELITE spawned fucking distractions ! 

soon there will be NO RV capable motors in the market as all will be servomotor computer low impedance not RV non OU capable  motors .. from a cheap surplus $30 they had gone up from $600 and up ! and new .... start at $1,200 dollars each ,,,   

I started a fund me ,only to find they blocked all money going into it , so will not go that way again ,,,

so keep dreaming as i have no idea wherever as a collective you all will wake up ! 


(H)  


   
 
(H) 
---In [email protected], <koneheadx@...> wrote :

 What is criteria to "entrust" people? 
 $1000 minimum payment for some teaser information to be entrusted?
 Million dollars for Joe to buy a farm in order to have all the information that cannot be replicated or understood by anyone but Joe Cell himself?

[10/12] Re: [EVGRAY] Where did the salt go?

2019-08-01T18:24:11+00:00 · james glinski <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <CA+uJ=ncd9RnbBDfvAmvV8h_r4FoJpiNU_ESEFiNgxuVJ7o0F1g@mail.gmail.com>
If you haven't duplicated it its not real .just a day dream and thats being
nice .

On Thursday, August 1, 2019, [email protected] [EVGRAY] <
[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> And i try to set up a public R&D entity to ensure people learn this stuff
> and i am the bad guy seeking recognition ...
>
>   they repeat the same fucking shit hundred times with a gimmick circus
> show and show nothing they get millions !  I disclose and its get patented
> & owned by this billion dollar holding motherfuckers ! wile they spend
> millions screwing whoever replicates ... divorces , bank theft , sabotage ,
> poisoning and even murder ... not to name the black magic and demons
> awaiting
>  to attack who ever gets into this turf  (white tantra required )
> I know there are lurkers here that can spend in pussy in one night  what i
> have not spend in motors or R&D all my life with money to spare and are the
> first ones awaiting to see what they can patent & steal .... and  are the
> ones who fill the forum with useless fucking shit !
>
>
>
>
>
> take a dive ! and breath deeepppp!
>
> nothing came out of Tileys, Perendev , ORBO , and money asking to see shit
> !  as this are ELITE spawned fucking distractions !
>
> soon there will be NO RV capable motors in the market as all will be
> servomotor computer low impedance not RV non OU capable  motors .. from a
> cheap surplus $30 they had gone up from $600 and up ! and new .... start at
> $1,200 dollars each ,,,
>
> I started a fund me ,only to find they blocked all money going into it ,
> so will not go that way again ,,,
>
> so keep dreaming as i have no idea wherever as a collective you all will
> wake up !
>
>
> (H)
>
>
>
>
> (H)
> ---In [email protected], <koneheadx@...> wrote :
>
> What is criteria to "entrust" people?
>
> $1000 minimum payment for some teaser information to be entrusted?
>
> Million dollars for Joe to buy a farm in order to have all the information
> that cannot be replicated or understood by anyone but Joe Cell himself?
>
>
> 
>

[11/12] Re: [EVGRAY] Where did the salt go?

2019-08-01T19:00:25+00:00 · Warren Keillor <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
James No true words have been spoken.Vicarious knowledge gained from reading is as good as the reputation of the writer.We have to place our trust in somebody's statements, that we have not verified ourselves.You can't do this for everything. It will just make you crazy trying.This is why one of the strongest rules of civilized society is telling the truth.Deception, whether one diludes oneself, or passes a lie out to form a false reality, in someone else's mind, is a repugnant form of fraud.This is why a good reality check, by putting things up to a well informed, well intentioned group, is good.The down side is, if everyone believes something is impossible, it most certainly is, because no one will attempt the impossible, except the crazy person.It is a game that only the half crazy win at.You better play it with your own money, because there is always "fraud" for the speculator to face.
So the rule, if any should be in place, is be kind, be truthful, do your own tests of the unknown. Make honest reports, as painful as that sometimes is. It is good for the group, at least.I have done many tests that ended up being duds.It does not mean much except my test, and how I did something, did not work.On the other hand, if something works, well, I'll blab it all over, and hope to heaven I credit the ones that gave me the idea to do it.We pass this life once. Let's do it with dignity, and honesty.Cheers Warren
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Thu., 1 Aug. 2019 at 2:25 p.m., James Glinski [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
If you haven't duplicated it its not real .just a day dream and thats being nice . 

On Thursday, August 1, 2019, [email protected] [EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:


     
And i try to set up a public R&D entity to ensure people learn this stuff and i am the bad guy seeking recognition ...

  they repeat the same fucking shit hundred times with a gimmick circus show and show nothing they get millions !  I disclose and its get patented & owned by this billion dollar holding motherfuckers ! wile they spend millions screwing whoever replicates ... divorces , bank theft , sabotage , poisoning and even murder ... not to name the black magic and demons awaiting
 to attack who ever gets into this turf  (white tantra required ) 
I know there are lurkers here that can spend in pussy in one night  what i have not spend in motors or R&D all my life with money to spare and are the first ones awaiting to see what they can patent & steal .... and  are the ones who fill the forum with useless fucking shit !





take a dive ! and breath deeepppp! 

nothing came out of Tileys, Perendev , ORBO , and money asking to see shit !  as this are ELITE spawned fucking distractions ! 

soon there will be NO RV capable motors in the market as all will be servomotor computer low impedance not RV non OU capable  motors .. from a cheap surplus $30 they had gone up from $600 and up ! and new .... start at $1,200 dollars each ,,,   

I started a fund me ,only to find they blocked all money going into it , so will not go that way again ,,,

so keep dreaming as i have no idea wherever as a collective you all will wake up ! 


(H)  


   


(H) 
---In [email protected], <koneheadx@...> wrote :


What is criteria to "entrust" people? 

$1000 minimum payment for some teaser information to be entrusted?

Million dollars for Joe to buy a farm in order to have all the information that cannot be replicated or understood by anyone but Joe Cell himself? 





   
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[12/12] Re: [EVGRAY] Where did the salt go?

2019-08-02T05:03:59+00:00 · james glinski <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <CA+uJ=nfCxX=cuV0Cgjyi03PJoaCYYbYRTJU+beTaGCUukQnsqQ@mail.gmail.com>
Well we do pass thats for sure .

On Thursday, August 1, 2019, Warren Keillor [email protected]
[EVGRAY] <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> James
> No true words have been spoken.
> Vicarious knowledge gained from reading is as good as the reputation of
> the writer.
> We have to place our trust in somebody's statements, that we have not
> verified ourselves.
> You can't do this for everything. It will just make you crazy trying.
> This is why one of the strongest rules of civilized society is telling the
> truth.
> Deception, whether one diludes oneself, or passes a lie out to form a
> false reality, in someone else's mind, is a repugnant form of fraud.
> This is why a good reality check, by putting things up to a well informed,
> well intentioned group, is good.
> The down side is, if everyone believes something is impossible, it most
> certainly is, because no one will attempt the impossible, except the crazy
> person.
> It is a game that only the half crazy win at.
> You better play it with your own money, because there is always "fraud"
> for the speculator to face.
> So the rule, if any should be in place, is be kind, be truthful, do your
> own tests of the unknown. Make honest reports, as painful as that sometimes
> is. It is good for the group, at least.
> I have done many tests that ended up being duds.
> It does not mean much except my test, and how I did something, did not
> work.
> On the other hand, if something works, well, I'll blab it all over, and
> hope to heaven I credit the ones that gave me the idea to do it.
> We pass this life once. Let's do it with dignity, and honesty.
> Cheers Warren
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> On Thu., 1 Aug. 2019 at 2:25 p.m., James Glinski [email protected]
> [EVGRAY]
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> If you haven't duplicated it its not real .just a day dream and thats
> being nice .
>
> On Thursday, August 1, 2019, [email protected] [EVGRAY] <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> And i try to set up a public R&D entity to ensure people learn this stuff
> and i am the bad guy seeking recognition ...
>
>   they repeat the same fucking shit hundred times with a gimmick circus
> show and show nothing they get millions !  I disclose and its get patented
> & owned by this billion dollar holding motherfuckers ! wile they spend
> millions screwing whoever replicates ... divorces , bank theft , sabotage ,
> poisoning and even murder ... not to name the black magic and demons
> awaiting
>  to attack who ever gets into this turf  (white tantra required )
> I know there are lurkers here that can spend in pussy in one night  what i
> have not spend in motors or R&D all my life with money to spare and are the
> first ones awaiting to see what they can patent & steal .... and  are the
> ones who fill the forum with useless fucking shit !
>
>
>
> [image: alt]
>
> take a dive ! and breath deeepppp!
>
> nothing came out of Tileys, Perendev , ORBO , and money asking to see shit
> !  as this are ELITE spawned fucking distractions !
>
> soon there will be NO RV capable motors in the market as all will be
> servomotor computer low impedance not RV non OU capable  motors .. from a
> cheap surplus $30 they had gone up from $600 and up ! and new .... start at
> $1,200 dollars each ,,,
>
> I started a fund me ,only to find they blocked all money going into it ,
> so will not go that way again ,,,
>
> so keep dreaming as i have no idea wherever as a collective you all will
> wake up !
>
>
> (H)
>
>
>
>
> (H)
> ---In [email protected], <koneheadx@...> wrote :
>
> What is criteria to "entrust" people?
>
> $1000 minimum payment for some teaser information to be entrusted?
>
> Million dollars for Joe to buy a farm in order to have all the information
> that cannot be replicated or understood by anyone but Joe Cell himself?
>
>
> 
>