Re: YouTube video link of mullergen build

A good lesson Kone, 
 thanks
 

 Ron

parallel fields = hi impedance + Ω

opposed fields = low impedance - Ω


 

---In [email protected], <koneheadx@...> wrote :

 Hi Hector
 Ok interesting i assume you mean the impedance of a coil against the permanent magnet?
 So attractive and repulsive have different impedance changes in motor coil?
 In induced generator coil the sweep of magnet in which direction in relation to magnet polarity governs impedance change?
 Kone

Exactly ! and also a magnet can decrease impedance  as opposed field affects it but will also produce intense CEMP force reaction than can be recovered !
that's one tip for ZPE pump  ...coil bangers & other stuff ! 



(H)

 
 

---In [email protected], <koneheadx@...> wrote :

 Hi all very short video showing change in draw from resuging magnet behind motor coil .
 I did this just before reading Hectors explanation...looks like the impedance of coil went up, since draw went down!
 https://youtu.be/P-2kAGznknE https://youtu.be/P-2kAGznknE

HI Hector
Coils bucking NN corkscrewing flux into eacb otber should make for more intense Backwards EMF in each coil, logic would say at least
..could be tbe flyback spike energy can be forced to "cobere" with the CEMF with right conditions and a mutual timing overlap.
With NN coils the compressed corkscrewed buckig ffux wants to escape only way it can; there at the airgap between the two coils, sbooting out 90 degrees "sideways" ...
The magnetic field will be a pattern of LINES...these lines can be directed to follow a  path through iron or ferrite or maybe lead or graphite cores positioned also at 90 dgrees direction pointed at that airgap.
Put these thin and fairly long  "splatter flux collecting cores"  360 degrees all the way around that airgap.  Put another layer above and below that 90 degree pointing ring, point these at 45 degrees to airgap....  depending on size of bucking coils, and splatter collecting collecting cores, maybe cram  36 or even 72 "splatter" cores all around airgap!  Wrap eacb with winds,  rectify with diode into caps...loop it since 100% non reflective...
Kone

Hi Hector
 OK besides impedance change, permanent magnet on core of coil can also affect the CEMF recovered power, 
 (this in pulsed DC motor coils for example) 
 When working with rotors of permanent magnets sweeping past generator coils with cores, (in my case 16 allN magnets in flat disc rotor whipping past 9 coi/core positions 40 degrees apart....right now only 5 of these positions occupied with generator coils in mullermotorgenerator I am testing)
 So the comment from Warren about "magnetic diode" is perhaps thinking not in electrical flow terms, but rather a "rotational magnet diode effect" in that the rotor speed and power increases in one way, compared to decreasing in the other direction....and with 16 all N facing diodes in rotor going for example 1300rpm now the dynamics of polarity of rotor magnets against various stator cores polarized with magnet behind these cores a certain polarity, and strength of magnetsm  can create a sort of rotational diode affect....(not electrical diode) as I do get a good speed up of around 300 rpm with magnets positioned behind generator (not the pulsed motor coils) so there is something going on and this effect is from magnetizied-cores vs sweeping rotor magnets so is almost a permanent magnet motor effect going on like Howard Johnson motor perhaps,,,,,after this, now will look at coils wound around those stator cores, being loaded with a certain resistive load  , and now another variable to see what magnetic polarity and strength of magnets behind generator coils (now loaded, making power) will cause some good speed up of rotor, and with rotating generators, more speed equals more power so faster the better.
 Kone

My entire study of this phenomenon called anti-parallel flux annihilation with a burst of photon energy which we perceive as CEMF, EMP an order of magnitude greater than input energy.   This, I have proven in my lab.   Kone, You are so correct.

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  On Sun, Sep 15, 2019 at 0:32, [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
HI Hector
Coils bucking NN corkscrewing flux into eacb otber should make for more intense Backwards EMF in each coil, logic would say at least
...could be tbe flyback spike energy can be forced to "cobere" with the CEMF with right conditions and a mutual timing overlap.
With NN coils the compressed corkscrewed buckig ffux wants to escape only way it can; there at the airgap between the two coils, sbooting out 90 degrees "sideways" ...
The magnetic field will be a pattern of LINES...these lines can be directed to follow a path through iron or ferrite or maybe lead or graphite cores positioned also at 90 dgrees direction pointed at that airgap.
Put these thin and fairly long "splatter flux collecting cores" 360 degrees all the way around that airgap. Put another layer above and below that 90 degree pointing ring, point these at 45 degrees to airgap.... depending on size of bucking coils, and splatter collecting collecting cores, maybe cram 36 or even 72 "splatter" cores all around airgap! Wrap eacb with winds,  rectify with diode into caps...loop it since 100% non reflective...
Kone
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The discussion of magnetic diode goes back to Tesla Patent on rectification of AC into DC to power DC arc lighting in NYC. It is called preferred path rectification and is pure simple diode action as we know it.  Read the Patent.

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Hi Hector

OK besides impedance change, permanent magnet on core of coil can also affect the CEMF recovered power, 

(this in pulsed DC motor coils for example) 

When working with rotors of permanent magnets sweeping past generator coils with cores, (in my case 16 allN magnets in flat disc rotor whipping past 9 coi/core positions 40 degrees apart....right now only 5 of these positions occupied with generator coils in mullermotorgenerator I am testing)

So the comment from Warren about "magnetic diode" is perhaps thinking not in electrical flow terms, but rather a "rotational magnet diode effect" in that the rotor speed and power increases in one way, compared to decreasing in the other direction....and with 16 all N facing diodes in rotor going for example 1300rpm now the dynamics of polarity of rotor magnets against various stator cores polarized with magnet behind these cores a certain polarity, and strength of magnetsm  can create a sort of rotational diode affect....(not electrical diode) as I do get a good speed up of around 300 rpm with magnets positioned behind generator (not the pulsed motor coils) so there is something going on and this effect is from magnetizied-cores vs sweeping rotor magnets so is almost a permanent magnet motor effect going on like Howard Johnson motor perhaps,,,,,after this, now will look at coils wound around those stator cores, being loaded with a certain resistive load  , and now another variable to see what magnetic polarity and strength of magnets behind generator coils (now loaded, making power) will cause some good speed up of rotor, and with rotating generators, more speed equals more power so faster the better.

Kone

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Date: 2019-09-15 8:57 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: [email protected], [email protected]
Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] YouTube video link of mullergen build



The discussion of magnetic diode goes back to Tesla Patent on rectification of AC into DC to power DC arc lighting in NYC. It is called preferred path rectification and is pure simple diode action as we know it.  Read the Patent.


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<[email protected]> wrote:


Hi Hector

OK besides impedance change, permanent magnet on core of coil can also affect the CEMF recovered power,

(this in pulsed DC motor coils for example)

When working with rotors of permanent magnets sweeping past generator coils with cores, (in my case 16 allN magnets in flat disc rotor whipping past 9 coi/core positions 40 degrees apart....right now only 5 of these positions occupied with generator coils in mullermotorgenerator I am testing)

So the comment from Warren about "magnetic diode" is perhaps thinking not in electrical flow terms, but rather a "rotational magnet diode effect" in that the rotor speed and power increases in one way, compared to decreasing in the other direction....and with 16 all N facing diodes in rotor going for example 1300rpm now the dynamics of polarity of rotor magnets against various stator cores polarized with magnet behind these cores a certain polarity, and strength of magnetsm  can create a sort of rotational diode affect....(not electrical diode) as I do get a good speed up of around 300 rpm with magnets positioned behind generator (not the pulsed motor coils) so there is something going on and this effect is from magnetizied-cores vs sweeping rotor magnets so is almost a permanent magnet motor effect going on like Howard Johnson motor perhaps,,,,,after this, now will look at coils wound around those stator cores, being loaded with a certain resistive load  , and now another variable to see what magnetic polarity and strength of magnets behind generator coils (now loaded, making power) will cause some good speed up of rotor, and with rotating generators, more speed equals more power so faster the better.

Kone

BartIts Arcs and sparks, garbage turned to useful energy.The messy AC signals get rectified, no matter what frequency, or amplitude, or how many are jumbled together, and organized into neat, and tidy, DC signals, that can be harnessed.You have to love rectifiers, even though they sort of sound like wrecktifiers.Cheers Warren

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AC   DC   AC


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Date: 2019-09-15 8:57 AM (GMT-05:00) 
To: [email protected], [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] YouTube video link of mullergen build 

 
The discussion of magnetic diode goes back to Tesla Patent on rectification of AC into DC to power DC arc lighting in NYC. It is called preferred path rectification and is pure simple diode action as we know it.  Read the Patent.


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On Sun, Sep 15, 2019 at 2:15, [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote: 


Hi Hector

OK besides impedance change, permanent magnet on core of coil can also affect the CEMF recovered power,

(this in pulsed DC motor coils for example) 

When working with rotors of permanent magnets sweeping past generator coils with cores, (in my case 16 allN magnets in flat disc rotor whipping past 9 coi/core positions 40 degrees apart....right now only 5 of these positions occupied with generator coils in mullermotorgenerator I am testing)

So the comment from Warren about "magnetic diode" is perhaps thinking not in electrical flow terms, but rather a "rotational magnet diode effect" in that the rotor speed and power increases in one way, compared to decreasing in the other direction....and with 16 all N facing diodes in rotor going for example 1300rpm now the dynamics of polarity of rotor magnets against various stator cores polarized with magnet behind these cores a certain polarity, and strength of magnetsm  can create a sort of rotational diode affect....(not electrical diode) as I do get a good speed up of around 300 rpm with magnets positioned behind generator (not the pulsed motor coils) so there is something going on and this effect is from magnetizied-cores vs sweeping rotor magnets so is almost a permanent magnet motor effect going on like Howard Johnson motor perhaps,,,,,after this, now will look at coils wound around those stator cores, being loaded with a certain resistive load  , and now another variable to see what magnetic polarity and strength of magnets behind generator coils (now loaded, making power) will cause some good speed up of rotor, and with rotating generators, more speed equals more power so faster the better.

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Warren
Agreed!
There has been many in the last few years claiming value from the access energy past the physical absolute zero mark. ( or before , or after)
I posted a few. Once I can find a little time to lab top it I will repost.
The value in the end will be harvesting the collected values. As well the bridge diodes or even any diode may not be applicable.
Pending on the build perhaps.
One fellow I chatted with says he worked on the timing for a period of ten years rallying data then 3d running it on a program before the physical build.
Doug's  build 's at this point will be a gathering of values more than applying Newtons gain in work force. Which in any way is benifical. I remember thinking what if the perendev had a cancellation scheduled. It does not take much effort to cancel even a small portion electronically on a magnetic field.

I suspect there is some thing amiss!

On another note.
Chatted yesterday with a fella whom has installed 2 gigawatt solar op on Long Island.
Meant to ask what he was doing for sustainable capacitance storage.
He did mention he was applying off peak time and on peak time schedules.
He said 1.10 per watt ....up and running!


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-------- Original message --------
From: "Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
Date: 2019-09-15 9:16 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] YouTube video link of mullergen build



Bart

Its Arcs and sparks, garbage turned to useful energy.
The messy AC signals get rectified, no matter what frequency, or amplitude, or how many are jumbled together, and organized into neat, and tidy, DC signals, that can be harnessed.
You have to love rectifiers, even though they sort of sound like wrecktifiers.
Cheers Warren

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On Sun., 15 Sep. 2019 at 9:06 a.m., bart woodard [email protected] [EVGRAY]
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AC   DC   AC



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Date: 2019-09-15 8:57 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: [email protected], [email protected]
Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] YouTube video link of mullergen build



The discussion of magnetic diode goes back to Tesla Patent on rectification of AC into DC to power DC arc lighting in NYC. It is called preferred path rectification and is pure simple diode action as we know it.  Read the Patent.


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Hi Hector

OK besides impedance change, permanent magnet on core of coil can also affect the CEMF recovered power,

(this in pulsed DC motor coils for example)

When working with rotors of permanent magnets sweeping past generator coils with cores, (in my case 16 allN magnets in flat disc rotor whipping past 9 coi/core positions 40 degrees apart....right now only 5 of these positions occupied with generator coils in mullermotorgenerator I am testing)

So the comment from Warren about "magnetic diode" is perhaps thinking not in electrical flow terms, but rather a "rotational magnet diode effect" in that the rotor speed and power increases in one way, compared to decreasing in the other direction....and with 16 all N facing diodes in rotor going for example 1300rpm now the dynamics of polarity of rotor magnets against various stator cores polarized with magnet behind these cores a certain polarity, and strength of magnetsm  can create a sort of rotational diode affect....(not electrical diode) as I do get a good speed up of around 300 rpm with magnets positioned behind generator (not the pulsed motor coils) so there is something going on and this effect is from magnetizied-cores vs sweeping rotor magnets so is almost a permanent magnet motor effect going on like Howard Johnson motor perhaps,,,,,after this, now will look at coils wound around those stator cores, being loaded with a certain resistive load  , and now another variable to see what magnetic polarity and strength of magnets behind generator coils (now loaded, making power) will cause some good speed up of rotor, and with rotating generators, more speed equals more power so faster the better.

Kone

Hi BartI have 20,000 watts of solar panels sitting Inside a shed right now.They are only three years old, made in Canada, and have come from a school on Toronto that is being torn down under the new Provincial government. As you know, the sugar daddy deal for selling power back to the Ontario grid is gone.My local power company will only buy my power for $ .50 to the dollar what they charge me.I got these panels for the scrap value, of hiring the guys to remove them from the roof before the bulldozers came.So it is not bad, since they didn't cost much, still, I generally hate batteries, and am open to thoughts of doing more than heating electric hot water tanks to run through the heat pumps, and floors.Cheers Warren

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  On Sun., 15 Sep. 2019 at 10:51 a.m., bart woodard [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       

WarrenAgreed!There has been many in the last few years claiming value from the access energy past the physical absolute zero mark. ( or before , or after)I posted a few. Once I can find a little time to lab top it I will repost. The value in the end will be harvesting the collected values. As well the bridge diodes or even any diode may not be applicable.Pending on the build perhaps.One fellow I chatted with says he worked on the timing for a period of ten years rallying data then 3d running it on a program before the physical build.Doug's  build 's at this point will be a gathering of values more than applying Newtons gain in work force. Which in any way is benifical. I remember thinking what if the perendev had a cancellation scheduled. It does not take much effort to cancel even a small portion electronically on a magnetic field. 
I suspect there is some thing amiss!
On another note.Chatted yesterday with a fella whom has installed 2 gigawatt solar op on Long Island. Meant to ask what he was doing for sustainable capacitance storage. He did mention he was applying off peak time and on peak time schedules.He said 1.10 per watt ....up and running! 

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-------- Original message --------
From: "Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
Date: 2019-09-15 9:16 AM (GMT-05:00) 
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] YouTube video link of mullergen build 

 
Bart
Its Arcs and sparks, garbage turned to useful energy.The messy AC signals get rectified, no matter what frequency, or amplitude, or how many are jumbled together, and organized into neat, and tidy, DC signals, that can be harnessed.You have to love rectifiers, even though they sort of sound like wrecktifiers.Cheers Warren

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On Sun., 15 Sep. 2019 at 9:06 a.m., bart woodard [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote: 

AC   DC   AC


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-------- Original message --------
From: "Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> 
Date: 2019-09-15 8:57 AM (GMT-05:00) 
To: [email protected], [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] YouTube video link of mullergen build 

 
The discussion of magnetic diode goes back to Tesla Patent on rectification of AC into DC to power DC arc lighting in NYC. It is called preferred path rectification and is pure simple diode action as we know it.  Read the Patent.


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On Sun, Sep 15, 2019 at 2:15, [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote: 


Hi Hector

OK besides impedance change, permanent magnet on core of coil can also affect the CEMF recovered power,

(this in pulsed DC motor coils for example) 

When working with rotors of permanent magnets sweeping past generator coils with cores, (in my case 16 allN magnets in flat disc rotor whipping past 9 coi/core positions 40 degrees apart....right now only 5 of these positions occupied with generator coils in mullermotorgenerator I am testing)

So the comment from Warren about "magnetic diode" is perhaps thinking not in electrical flow terms, but rather a "rotational magnet diode effect" in that the rotor speed and power increases in one way, compared to decreasing in the other direction....and with 16 all N facing diodes in rotor going for example 1300rpm now the dynamics of polarity of rotor magnets against various stator cores polarized with magnet behind these cores a certain polarity, and strength of magnetsm  can create a sort of rotational diode affect....(not electrical diode) as I do get a good speed up of around 300 rpm with magnets positioned behind generator (not the pulsed motor coils) so there is something going on and this effect is from magnetizied-cores vs sweeping rotor magnets so is almost a permanent magnet motor effect going on like Howard Johnson motor perhaps,,,,,after this, now will look at coils wound around those stator cores, being loaded with a certain resistive load  , and now another variable to see what magnetic polarity and strength of magnets behind generator coils (now loaded, making power) will cause some good speed up of rotor, and with rotating generators, more speed equals more power so faster the better.

Kone







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Hey Warren,
   He said it costs him 1.10 installed and up and running as he had all costs plus from the manufacturing as his build warranted itself due to its size.
 I think he said Aurora solar! Got his business card anyway.
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On the 20k  , Most people like to divide by 5 for sustainability values. Meaning 20k / 5= 4k  24 hr useful value.
That's lots!  Due to it being 24 hr full time you can run the entire farm with all its basic needs ,
 once you do its also our greedy nature to want more ! lol
You should keep in mind on some schedules you need to allow for up to 100% intake on the 20k.
Most likely will not happen but you still need to.
Some time back , (many posts) Norman , myself and others were banging on battery elements and values.
Norm posted a young man playing with plasma and you,  yourself had mentioned ....why? whats the point?
You are correct if there is no plan to move forward. So if we move forward which way do you like to go?
No matter how you go there will be maintenance! Sorry but yea!
You seem to like plug and play and why not ! I do as well. Seems to be what we have matured our selves to
now a day. I remember the days I  used to play with the 555 timer, now ...wow relearn lol
Arduino is really just that from what I can see, an advanced 555 timer!
I can heat or charge your water or charge a substrate or which ever you like. Create a flow battery etc.
Remember back in reference for a millionth time JB and Tom Beardon mentioned " switching"
Its the switching which is the problem, once you do ...poof all values tank!
 So for fun lists your components you wish to run!! Also be honest with annual values!

Bart:)
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Sent: September 15, 2019 2:32 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] YouTube video link of mullergen build



Hi Bart

I have 20,000 watts of solar panels sitting Inside a shed right now.
They are only three years old, made in Canada, and have come from a school on Toronto that is being torn down under the new Provincial government.
As you know, the sugar daddy deal for selling power back to the Ontario grid is gone.
My local power company will only buy my power for $ .50 to the dollar what they charge me.
I got these panels for the scrap value, of hiring the guys to remove them from the roof before the bulldozers came.
So it is not bad, since they didn't cost much, still, I generally hate batteries, and am open to thoughts of doing more than heating electric hot water tanks to run through the heat pumps, and floors.
Cheers Warren

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On Sun., 15 Sep. 2019 at 10:51 a.m., bart woodard [email protected] [EVGRAY]
<[email protected]> wrote:


Warren
Agreed!
There has been many in the last few years claiming value from the access energy past the physical absolute zero mark. ( or before , or after)
I posted a few. Once I can find a little time to lab top it I will repost.
The value in the end will be harvesting the collected values. As well the bridge diodes or even any diode may not be applicable.
Pending on the build perhaps.
One fellow I chatted with says he worked on the timing for a period of ten years rallying data then 3d running it on a program before the physical build.
Doug's  build 's at this point will be a gathering of values more than applying Newtons gain in work force. Which in any way is benifical. I remember thinking what if the perendev had a cancellation scheduled. It does not take much effort to cancel even a small portion electronically on a magnetic field.

I suspect there is some thing amiss!

On another note.
Chatted yesterday with a fella whom has installed 2 gigawatt solar op on Long Island.
Meant to ask what he was doing for sustainable capacitance storage.
He did mention he was applying off peak time and on peak time schedules.
He said 1.10 per watt ....up and running!


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-------- Original message --------
From: "Warren Keillor [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
Date: 2019-09-15 9:16 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] YouTube video link of mullergen build



Bart

Its Arcs and sparks, garbage turned to useful energy.
The messy AC signals get rectified, no matter what frequency, or amplitude, or how many are jumbled together, and organized into neat, and tidy, DC signals, that can be harnessed.
You have to love rectifiers, even though they sort of sound like wrecktifiers.
Cheers Warren

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On Sun., 15 Sep. 2019 at 9:06 a.m., bart woodard [email protected] [EVGRAY]
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AC   DC   AC



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-------- Original message --------
From: "Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
Date: 2019-09-15 8:57 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: [email protected], [email protected]
Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] YouTube video link of mullergen build



The discussion of magnetic diode goes back to Tesla Patent on rectification of AC into DC to power DC arc lighting in NYC. It is called preferred path rectification and is pure simple diode action as we know it.  Read the Patent.


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On Sun, Sep 15, 2019 at 2:15, [email protected] [EVGRAY]
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Hi Hector

OK besides impedance change, permanent magnet on core of coil can also affect the CEMF recovered power,

(this in pulsed DC motor coils for example)

When working with rotors of permanent magnets sweeping past generator coils with cores, (in my case 16 allN magnets in flat disc rotor whipping past 9 coi/core positions 40 degrees apart....right now only 5 of these positions occupied with generator coils in mullermotorgenerator I am testing)

So the comment from Warren about "magnetic diode" is perhaps thinking not in electrical flow terms, but rather a "rotational magnet diode effect" in that the rotor speed and power increases in one way, compared to decreasing in the other direction....and with 16 all N facing diodes in rotor going for example 1300rpm now the dynamics of polarity of rotor magnets against various stator cores polarized with magnet behind these cores a certain polarity, and strength of magnetsm  can create a sort of rotational diode affect....(not electrical diode) as I do get a good speed up of around 300 rpm with magnets positioned behind generator (not the pulsed motor coils) so there is something going on and this effect is from magnetizied-cores vs sweeping rotor magnets so is almost a permanent magnet motor effect going on like Howard Johnson motor perhaps,,,,,after this, now will look at coils wound around those stator cores, being loaded with a certain resistive load  , and now another variable to see what magnetic polarity and strength of magnets behind generator coils (now loaded, making power) will cause some good speed up of rotor, and with rotating generators, more speed equals more power so faster the better.

Kone

Hi Bart
 All I got here is a hand drill with hole saws, a sabre saw, a hot glue gun that's about it!
 Going back to USA with wife leaving tomorrow by bus to Vilnius Lithuania, then from there to Reykjavik then from there  to Seattle..  these motorgenerators I have been making videos of get left here in Minsk until we return probably in January I really want to get it over 2000rpm I think the coils will not suffer from lenz in a frequency window up there in rotor speed (Thane Karl Heinz delayed lenz effect)
 I have another mullermotorgenerator back in Seattle that's better than this wood one, but has only 8 rotor magnets, while the wood one here has 16...
  it has ferrite cores all around like RomeroUK did, and already has responded well to backing magnets behind the generator coils,.... and with the coils shorted out, the magnets give some good speed up which is what you want to see:
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emn3JlHbbeY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emn3JlHbbeY
 rotor speed up from backing magnets while coils shorted:
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMuLptnM2Zg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMuLptnM2Zg

Hi Norman
Could you elaborate some on the physical layout perhaps with some values in discription?  I realize it's on mostly memory.
Bart



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-------- Original message --------
From: "Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
Date: 2019-09-15 8:53 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: [email protected], [email protected]
Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] YouTube video link of mullergen build



My entire study of this phenomenon called anti-parallel flux annihilation with a burst of photon energy which we perceive as CEMF, EMP an order of magnitude greater than input energy.   This, I have proven in my lab.   Kone, You are so correct.


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HI Hector
Coils bucking NN corkscrewing flux into eacb otber should make for more intense Backwards EMF in each coil, logic would say at least
....could be tbe flyback spike energy can be forced to "cobere" with the CEMF with right conditions and a mutual timing overlap.
With NN coils the compressed corkscrewed buckig ffux wants to escape only way it can; there at the airgap between the two coils, sbooting out 90 degrees "sideways" ...
The magnetic field will be a pattern of LINES...these lines can be directed to follow a path through iron or ferrite or maybe lead or graphite cores positioned also at 90 dgrees direction pointed at that airgap.
Put these thin and fairly long "splatter flux collecting cores" 360 degrees all the way around that airgap. Put another layer above and below that 90 degree pointing ring, point these at 45 degrees to airgap.... depending on size of bucking coils, and splatter collecting collecting cores, maybe cram 36 or even 72 "splatter" cores all around airgap! Wrap eacb with winds, rectify with diode into caps...loop it since 100% non reflective...
Kone

It just keeps improving Kone!
Do you have access to a cnc in the warm settings you live?
Bart



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-------- Original message --------
From: "[email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
Date: 2019-09-13 11:46 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] YouTube video link of mullergen build



Another quick video, this of same motor as previous video, but with backing magnets behind total of ten generator coils (5 coil positions) rpms increased 300rpm with the magnets behind generator coils and dtaw goes up 20ma in trade off.
16 all N facing rotor magnets, against 9 coil positions 40 degrees apart, 5 coil positions are generator coils, one is the motor coil, three positions blank.
https://youtu.be/W51dccvqvPM

Bart, I have in the past year on this site, posted all the details of how to create the EMP event all the way back to my first encounter back in 1980. The bucking, opposing magnetic flux is key in the antiparallel flux annihilation. CEMF EMP or as I called it Neutral Spike. Hector even called it gunning from his experiments Ole gave you the explanation about the arc plasma in an opening set of contacts. An arc is a very powerful magnetic plasma.

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  On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 8:46, bart woodard [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       

Hi NormanCould you elaborate some on the physical layout perhaps with some values in discription?  I realize it's on mostly memory. Bart


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From: "Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> 
Date: 2019-09-15 8:53 AM (GMT-05:00) 
To: [email protected], [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] YouTube video link of mullergen build 

 
My entire study of this phenomenon called anti-parallel flux annihilation with a burst of photon energy which we perceive as CEMF, EMP an order of magnitude greater than input energy.   This, I have proven in my lab.   Kone, You are so correct.


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On Sun, Sep 15, 2019 at 0:32, [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote: 
HI Hector
Coils bucking NN corkscrewing flux into eacb otber should make for more intense Backwards EMF in each coil, logic would say at least
.....could be tbe flyback spike energy can be forced to "cobere" with the CEMF with right conditions and a mutual timing overlap.
With NN coils the compressed corkscrewed buckig ffux wants to escape only way it can; there at the airgap between the two coils, sbooting out 90 degrees "sideways" ...
The magnetic field will be a pattern of LINES...these lines can be directed to follow a path through iron or ferrite or maybe lead or graphite cores positioned also at 90 dgrees direction pointed at that airgap.
Put these thin and fairly long "splatter flux collecting cores" 360 degrees all the way around that airgap. Put another layer above and below that 90 degree pointing ring, point these at 45 degrees to airgap.... depending on size of bucking coils, and splatter collecting collecting cores, maybe cram 36 or even 72 "splatter" cores all around airgap! Wrap eacb with winds, rectify with diode into caps...loop it since 100% non reflective...
Kone



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Yes you have Norman as well as Hec Oli and others.
Trying to find the most simplistically application with as less components as possible for discussion.
In reference to wire size ,.pancake design ? Staking ,
triggering,  trifilar , quad or what have you.
Discussion sake only.
Seen some applied lately.
Just poking !



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-------- Original message --------
From: "Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
Date: 2019-09-16 11:34 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: [email protected], [email protected]
Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] YouTube video link of mullergen build



Bart, I have in the past year on this site, posted all the details of how to create the EMP event all the way back to my first encounter back in 1980. The bucking, opposing magnetic flux is key in the antiparallel flux annihilation. CEMF EMP or as I called it Neutral Spike. Hector even called it gunning from his experiments Ole gave you the explanation about the arc plasma in an opening set of contacts. An arc is a very powerful magnetic plasma.


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On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 8:46, bart woodard [email protected] [EVGRAY]
<[email protected]> wrote:


Hi Norman
Could you elaborate some on the physical layout perhaps with some values in discription?  I realize it's on mostly memory.
Bart



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-------- Original message --------
From: "Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
Date: 2019-09-15 8:53 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: [email protected], [email protected]
Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] YouTube video link of mullergen build



My entire study of this phenomenon called anti-parallel flux annihilation with a burst of photon energy which we perceive as CEMF, EMP an order of magnitude greater than input energy.   This, I have proven in my lab.   Kone, You are so correct.


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On Sun, Sep 15, 2019 at 0:32, [email protected] [EVGRAY]
<[email protected]> wrote:


HI Hector
Coils bucking NN corkscrewing flux into eacb otber should make for more intense Backwards EMF in each coil, logic would say at least
......could be tbe flyback spike energy can be forced to "cobere" with the CEMF with right conditions and a mutual timing overlap.
With NN coils the compressed corkscrewed buckig ffux wants to escape only way it can; there at the airgap between the two coils, sbooting out 90 degrees "sideways" ...
The magnetic field will be a pattern of LINES...these lines can be directed to follow a path through iron or ferrite or maybe lead or graphite cores positioned also at 90 dgrees direction pointed at that airgap.
Put these thin and fairly long "splatter flux collecting cores" 360 degrees all the way around that airgap. Put another layer above and below that 90 degree pointing ring, point these at 45 degrees to airgap.... depending on size of bucking coils, and splatter collecting collecting cores, maybe cram 36 or even 72 "splatter" cores all around airgap! Wrap eacb with winds, rectify with diode into caps...loop it since 100% non reflective...
Kone

Bart, The 5HP single phase, 230VAC refrigeration compressor set up is perfect for replication of the EMP producing event at the powerful plasma magnetic arc. This set up has the entire circuit isolated from any neutral reference during the flux annihilation event.  Remember that we are converting magnetic flux into its constituents which is proton energy whi h is an order of magnitude greater than the beginning energy stored in the inductor and capacitors.  Neat shit.   The Defense Dept weaponized this knowledge.

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Yes you have Norman as well as Hec Oli and others.Trying to find the most simplistically application with as less components as possible for discussion. In reference to wire size ,.pancake design ? Staking ,triggering,  trifilar , quad or what have you.Discussion sake only.Seen some applied lately. Just poking !


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-------- Original message --------
From: "Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> 
Date: 2019-09-16 11:34 AM (GMT-05:00) 
To: [email protected], [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] YouTube video link of mullergen build 

 
Bart, I have in the past year on this site, posted all the details of how to create the EMP event all the way back to my first encounter back in 1980. The bucking, opposing magnetic flux is key in the antiparallel flux annihilation. CEMF EMP or as I called it Neutral Spike. Hector even called it gunning from his experiments Ole gave you the explanation about the arc plasma in an opening set of contacts. An arc is a very powerful magnetic plasma.


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On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 8:46, bart woodard [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote: 

Hi NormanCould you elaborate some on the physical layout perhaps with some values in discription?  I realize it's on mostly memory. Bart


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-------- Original message --------
From: "Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> 
Date: 2019-09-15 8:53 AM (GMT-05:00) 
To: [email protected], [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] YouTube video link of mullergen build 

 
My entire study of this phenomenon called anti-parallel flux annihilation with a burst of photon energy which we perceive as CEMF, EMP an order of magnitude greater than input energy.   This, I have proven in my lab.   Kone, You are so correct.


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On Sun, Sep 15, 2019 at 0:32, [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote: 
HI Hector
Coils bucking NN corkscrewing flux into eacb otber should make for more intense Backwards EMF in each coil, logic would say at least
.......could be tbe flyback spike energy can be forced to "cobere" with the CEMF with right conditions and a mutual timing overlap.
With NN coils the compressed corkscrewed buckig ffux wants to escape only way it can; there at the airgap between the two coils, sbooting out 90 degrees "sideways" ...
The magnetic field will be a pattern of LINES...these lines can be directed to follow a path through iron or ferrite or maybe lead or graphite cores positioned also at 90 dgrees direction pointed at that airgap.
Put these thin and fairly long "splatter flux collecting cores" 360 degrees all the way around that airgap. Put another layer above and below that 90 degree pointing ring, point these at 45 degrees to airgap.... depending on size of bucking coils, and splatter collecting collecting cores, maybe cram 36 or even 72 "splatter" cores all around airgap! Wrap eacb with winds, rectify with diode into caps...loop it since 100% non reflective...
Kone






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Norm  seen some cool stuff as of late. From hand crafting up to production cnc and so on. Tank like coiling and so on. It seems logical from some aspects to operate something memicking 12 dc + - or there abouts. Isolating it unscheduled and unswitched  to be applied to another component and so on.  Seen this several times lately.  Had to check in my cell phone on the way in to the lab. Lol




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From: "Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
Date: 2019-09-16 12:32 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: [email protected], [email protected]
Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] YouTube video link of mullergen build



Bart, The 5HP single phase, 230VAC refrigeration compressor set up is perfect for replication of the EMP producing event at the powerful plasma magnetic arc. This set up has the entire circuit isolated from any neutral reference during the flux annihilation event.  Remember that we are converting magnetic flux into its constituents which is proton energy whi h is an order of magnitude greater than the beginning energy stored in the inductor and capacitors.  Neat shit.   The Defense Dept weaponized this knowledge.


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On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 11:19, bart woodard [email protected] [EVGRAY]
<[email protected]> wrote:


Yes you have Norman as well as Hec Oli and others.
Trying to find the most simplistically application with as less components as possible for discussion.
In reference to wire size ,.pancake design ? Staking ,
triggering,  trifilar , quad or what have you.
Discussion sake only.
Seen some applied lately.
Just poking !



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-------- Original message --------
From: "Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
Date: 2019-09-16 11:34 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: [email protected], [email protected]
Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] YouTube video link of mullergen build



Bart, I have in the past year on this site, posted all the details of how to create the EMP event all the way back to my first encounter back in 1980. The bucking, opposing magnetic flux is key in the antiparallel flux annihilation. CEMF EMP or as I called it Neutral Spike. Hector even called it gunning from his experiments Ole gave you the explanation about the arc plasma in an opening set of contacts. An arc is a very powerful magnetic plasma.


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On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 8:46, bart woodard [email protected] [EVGRAY]
<[email protected]> wrote:


Hi Norman
Could you elaborate some on the physical layout perhaps with some values in discription?  I realize it's on mostly memory.
Bart



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From: "Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]>
Date: 2019-09-15 8:53 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: [email protected], [email protected]
Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] YouTube video link of mullergen build



My entire study of this phenomenon called anti-parallel flux annihilation with a burst of photon energy which we perceive as CEMF, EMP an order of magnitude greater than input energy.   This, I have proven in my lab.   Kone, You are so correct.


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On Sun, Sep 15, 2019 at 0:32, [email protected] [EVGRAY]
<[email protected]> wrote:


HI Hector
Coils bucking NN corkscrewing flux into eacb otber should make for more intense Backwards EMF in each coil, logic would say at least
........could be tbe flyback spike energy can be forced to "cobere" with the CEMF with right conditions and a mutual timing overlap.
With NN coils the compressed corkscrewed buckig ffux wants to escape only way it can; there at the airgap between the two coils, sbooting out 90 degrees "sideways" ...
The magnetic field will be a pattern of LINES...these lines can be directed to follow a path through iron or ferrite or maybe lead or graphite cores positioned also at 90 dgrees direction pointed at that airgap.
Put these thin and fairly long "splatter flux collecting cores" 360 degrees all the way around that airgap. Put another layer above and below that 90 degree pointing ring, point these at 45 degrees to airgap.... depending on size of bucking coils, and splatter collecting collecting cores, maybe cram 36 or even 72 "splatter" cores all around airgap! Wrap eacb with winds, rectify with diode into caps...loop it since 100% non reflective...
Kone

PHOTON ENERGY not proton.

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  On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 11:32, Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       
Bart, The 5HP single phase, 230VAC refrigeration compressor set up is perfect for replication of the EMP producing event at the powerful plasma magnetic arc. This set up has the entire circuit isolated from any neutral reference during the flux annihilation event.  Remember that we are converting magnetic flux into its constituents which is proton energy whi h is an order of magnitude greater than the beginning energy stored in the inductor and capacitors.  Neat shit.   The Defense Dept weaponized this knowledge.


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  On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 11:19, bart woodard [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote:       

Yes you have Norman as well as Hec Oli and others.Trying to find the most simplistically application with as less components as possible for discussion. In reference to wire size ,.pancake design ? Staking ,triggering,  trifilar , quad or what have you.Discussion sake only.Seen some applied lately. Just poking !


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-------- Original message --------
From: "Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> 
Date: 2019-09-16 11:34 AM (GMT-05:00) 
To: [email protected], [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] YouTube video link of mullergen build 

 
Bart, I have in the past year on this site, posted all the details of how to create the EMP event all the way back to my first encounter back in 1980. The bucking, opposing magnetic flux is key in the antiparallel flux annihilation. CEMF EMP or as I called it Neutral Spike. Hector even called it gunning from his experiments Ole gave you the explanation about the arc plasma in an opening set of contacts. An arc is a very powerful magnetic plasma.


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On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 8:46, bart woodard [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote: 

Hi NormanCould you elaborate some on the physical layout perhaps with some values in discription?  I realize it's on mostly memory. Bart


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-------- Original message --------
From: "Norman Wootan [email protected] [EVGRAY]" <[email protected]> 
Date: 2019-09-15 8:53 AM (GMT-05:00) 
To: [email protected], [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [EVGRAY] YouTube video link of mullergen build 

 
My entire study of this phenomenon called anti-parallel flux annihilation with a burst of photon energy which we perceive as CEMF, EMP an order of magnitude greater than input energy.   This, I have proven in my lab.   Kone, You are so correct.


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On Sun, Sep 15, 2019 at 0:32, [email protected] [EVGRAY]<[email protected]> wrote: 
HI Hector
Coils bucking NN corkscrewing flux into eacb otber should make for more intense Backwards EMF in each coil, logic would say at least
........could be tbe flyback spike energy can be forced to "cobere" with the CEMF with right conditions and a mutual timing overlap.
With NN coils the compressed corkscrewed buckig ffux wants to escape only way it can; there at the airgap between the two coils, sbooting out 90 degrees "sideways" ...
The magnetic field will be a pattern of LINES...these lines can be directed to follow a path through iron or ferrite or maybe lead or graphite cores positioned also at 90 dgrees direction pointed at that airgap.
Put these thin and fairly long "splatter flux collecting cores" 360 degrees all the way around that airgap. Put another layer above and below that 90 degree pointing ring, point these at 45 degrees to airgap.... depending on size of bucking coils, and splatter collecting collecting cores, maybe cram 36 or even 72 "splatter" cores all around airgap! Wrap eacb with winds, rectify with diode into caps...loop it since 100% non reflective...
Kone






    
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